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Name: leah
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: michigan
Time: 2000-11-18 23:34:44
Comments: Milk was a poison to me until i happened to read a magazine article in Rheumatology Today ,in a rheumatologist's office waiting symptom free. I waited in agony all month . Curiously no symptoms that day. The article said something about milk and tomatoes being the culprit for triggering arthritis. I had been drinking tremendous amountsof milk not knowing that the proteins were chrystallizing in my joints. Swollen joints and pain went away along with the milk

Name: Natalie Scott
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Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Colorado
Time: 2000-11-16 22:45:04
Comments: After reading an article in Discover magazine by Colin Campbell I decided to do a little more research about dairy, that is how I found your site. I also ordered your book, which I found very informative (though a little hard to read). I stopped drinking milk a long time ago after finding out about the pus content, but I still ate a lot of dairy. Now, I have given it all up and I find myself trying to get everyone else I know to do the same. I wanted to let you know how much I like your site (I refer people to it all the time) and how thankful I am that there are people who think it's important enough for everyone to know the truth. :o)

Name: Robert Anderson
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Referred by: Net Search
From: New Zealand
Time: 2000-11-16 00:29:04
Comments: Robert You are doing an excellent job.

Name: Alexandra
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Brussels, Belgium
Time: 2000-11-15 08:12:29
Comments: I gave up cow's milk a little over two years ago because the cow's milk proteins were going through my milk and causing an allergic reaction in my baby son. Since I have eliminated dairy from my diet I feel so much better its incredible. I used to suffer from IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome) and now its gone. I thought I was allergic to dust as I would sneeze about 50 times when I woke up each morning and have a runny nose all day. People would joke about how easy it was to find me... just follow the soggy tissues! Now that's all behind me. I used to get frequent colds, around 4-6 per year and they were real humdingers. For the first few days my nose would run so badly I would have to walk around with bits of tissues stuck up my nostrils (very attractive)! Then it would all solidify and I would have a stuffy nose and headaches for weeks. Post dairy I get maybe one cold a year, its hardly noticible though, no more gallons of mucous, just a bit of a sore throat. My skin is much clearer, no more breakouts, my face is less puffy and no more dark circles under my eyes. I have lost weight - around 10lbs and have much more energy. To tell the truth, it was a big sacrifice to give up dairy, especially cheese and milk chocolate, but I stopped craving it after a few months. I think perhaps other people have symptoms like the ones I listed above but would never connect it to dairy products (I didn't). I think if anyone gave up dairy they would be surprised and how much better they feel.

Name: Sandy
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle, WA
Time: 2000-11-14 20:16:05
Comments: Hey there, great website. Shocking information. I was surfing around trying to find info as to whether my 4 year old son could be allergic to milk. He never was into milk or cheese until recently. Coincedentally, the same time he started liking milk and cheese, he started snoring so loud at night he'd wake the house! We've been out of milk for the past couple days, and lo and behold - He Stopped Snoring!! He's been sleeping great too! Amazing. Now I know that he's not allergic, but just suffering the consequences of ingesting something that is unnatural to our human bodies. It's soy milk for us from now on! Luckily, he loves the stuff! Thanks again!

Name: Kelly Glassburn
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle, Washington
Time: 2000-11-14 17:29:22
Comments: Milk is icky! What most people don't know, is that humans are the only mammal that continues to drink milk once we're past the "weening" stage. Why must we do this to our bodies? I most definately do NOT "got milk."

Name: Marilyn
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Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Wisconsin
Time: 2000-11-14 14:41:46
Comments: I cannot believe this is true! I used to drink as much milk as possible, but now I dont touch it. I am tring to tell others of this and they dont seem to belive me. I think this should be more public so people know what they are drinking. Thank you for exposing this.

Name: Sherlette Muhammad
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Referred by: From a Friend
From: Toledo, Ohio
Time: 2000-11-12 11:51:47
Comments: What's the problem with milk?

Name: Cat
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Toronto
Time: 2000-11-11 02:19:04
Comments: Wonderful site! I'm desperately trying to find a copy of your book in Toronto... My dad's constantly trying tell me I'm going to die of osteoporosis by the time I'm 40 since I never drank much milk as a child, I'm lactose intolerant. I'm now drinking soy milk, and finding it tastes better, as well. If I had brittle bones, you'd think I'd have broken one in my life...

Name: Marion Schmidt
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: AUSTRIA, Vienna
Time: 2000-11-10 16:07:28
Comments: greetings from VIENNA, tell me something about you and where you live ...

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Marion,

Today I'm in San Diego, California, where I'll be speaking to the EarthSave group at their annual turkey-free Thanksgiving celebration.

Last week, I was in Missouri, and next week I'll be in Ohio. I live in New Jersey, just a few minutes from New York City.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Samantha
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: kent, wa (by seattle)
Time: 2000-11-08 00:59:06
Comments: Hey there. I'm just 15 but I've been vegatarian since I was 12 and vegan since my 15th birthday (june 28). I think of my going vegan a "birthday present to myself" because it has done so much good for me in so many ways. I only wish I became vegan sooner but I wasn't toO informed on it and didn't know excactly what it was or anything but I was refered to your webpage, I forget how though..and right then and there I decided to go vegan and it is the best decision I have ever made. So thanks! Yeh, I'm "going strong" at it and I've convinced so many of my friends to go at least vegatarian so its pretty cool yeh. and I have people I have never even seen before at my school coming up to me asking me about veganism/non-human animal rights. So yeah its pretty cool. Alright then thanks for all the great info!

Name: Jim Leach
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Columbus, Ohio
Time: 2000-11-07 16:22:21
Comments: I'm a dietary vegan and just wanted to say keep up the good work.

Name: Monkey Mary C. Howe
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: my mother's womb
Time: 2000-11-07 09:13:11
Comments: Veganism rocks, everybody!!! Some of my friend's and I are going to start holding protests here, in my hometown of Potsdam. I'm psyched to be vegan, cuz it gives me a good conscience, heart, mind, body, and outlook. I just urge those of you who aren't vegan, to give it a whirl. Don't worry you don't eat tofu and beans 'n' rice 24/7. Peace out. Spread the love!!!

Name: Dawn Martin
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 2000-11-06 22:16:11
Comments: I am vegan myself, and this is an awesome page for facts on dairy. It gives me support, when there never seems to be much at all. I hope that everyone who reads this website changes their lifestyle and stops eating dairy. Wish we would all just respect the lives of animals and leave them be. There are so many great people out there who care. Hopefully we can all spread the word.

Name: Real God Allah
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Orlando,FL
Time: 2000-11-05 09:07:12
Comments: Much Love, Peace, and Happiness to all the human family's who are free from animal diets. To the fact we know why not to eat living animals. Life is the most precious thing on our planet and we need to preserved it for continuoss life. They were not place in the world to be killed or destroy. They were place for the fact to keep our enviroment safe and clean. This beautiful species are like worker because they do work in our enviroment in they own ways. They must be respect and protected from negative forces. So i really support all the different org. who are agaisnt killing animals. Much love and peace to www.notmailk.com and it readers. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share my views. Thank You and please keep our animals safe!

Name: Yvonne>
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maitland
Time: 2000-11-04 16:31:40
Comments: Confirmation at last I get sinus from milk and cut it out everyone gasps where are you getting your calcium from? I take calcium tablets and eat lots of vegetables rarely protein. Bonus - I felt great for the last 2 years.

"Where are you getting your calcium?"

Same place those big-boned COWS get ALL of their calcium... from GREEN PLANTS!

To absorb calcium it must be accompanied with an equal amount of magnesium AND vitamin "D". The low amount of magnesium in cow's milk means that only around 8.8 percent of the calcium is usable. This small gain is most likely more than negated by the fact that cow's milk is high in proteins. In a protein-rich diet, such as exists in America and several other countries, more calcium may be LEACHED from the body then is provided by any amount of milk and dairy consumed.

Those countries with the highest consumption of meat and dairy also have the GREATEST problem with osteoporosis!

If you use calcium supplements... make sure they have an equal measure of magnesium. Then, get some daily sunlight on your skin. Better yet, just eat lots of calcium rich vegetables... see NOTMILK.com for more.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: susan daley
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Referred by: AOL
From: new jersey
Time: 2000-11-03 19:15:59
Comments: I have discovered the most fascinating information, and plan to stop contaminating my body with dairy products right now.

Name: David J. Parker
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Alberta
Time: 2000-11-03 17:25:21
Comments: Dear Robert, I heard you at the WVC in Toronto this summer. I was the guy who cycled to the event. I have written a review of "Milk:The deadly Poison" in our newsletter "The LEADING VEG" and would like to send you a copy. Your e-mail sender doesn't seem to work (hope this does). We and the Calgary group would like to have you come up and speak in Alberta if possible? Howard Lyman has been twice to our EARTH DAY event at a park in Edmonton. Is this a possibility? EARTH DAY is 22 April. DJP

Name: Peter Martin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Colorado
Time: 2000-11-02 21:43:55
Comments: I have also done some research into the cattle industry and was completely astonished at the treatment of cattle. I am currently converting to veganism, and am finding it extremely hard to find non-dairy, or non-animal products in the local Safeway. I'm interested in dairy's relation to acne and zits. I'm currently considering Accutane, and am now wondering if dairy products have contributed to my pimples(along with genes, etc). As a 20 year-old CSU student who has recently found salvation through punk rock music, I can say I'm converting to veganism for every cow, pig, and chicken out there- their CAUSE. "When you know what you know is right, when you feel what you can't ignore, when you try so hard to point the blame, what are we doin' it for, THE CAUSE!" -NOFX

Name: >Curious George
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-11-02 18:56:38
Comments: I would like some discussion about calcium supplements. I take a liquid calcium supplement that has magnesium....on occassions, & also give it to my child. Are the amounts of calcium requirements stated by the government the apropriate amounts for vegetarians? I figure since meat & dairy eaters eat high protein, this would reduce the amount of calcium their body could absorb and they would need to eat higher mgs of calcium in order to get all they needed. I am assuming these requirments were based on getting calcium from dairy. So i figured, well if you eat calcium through plant sources only, you would need much less, since the plant calcium is absorbed easier.Hope this is clear. Anyway, now i worry about too much calcium with the supplement & the stress possibly caused of the elimination of the extra calcium might cause. At the same time, some times I feel my child does not get the 250-300mg he probably needs for his age through his food alone. I could not get the required 1,500 mg from my food alone, I would have to eat never ending....I sure would like to clarify this or at least get some idea, if this is correct or not, totally confused now.. I know a new line of vitamins(forgot name)that are completely vegetable based, (or whole foods), and do contain a very low amounts of calcium, based on this plant calcium absorbability concept. Thanks..

Provide a valid Email address and we will be happy to
provide some comments and suggestions.

By the way... that 1200mg is a dairy industry "tweaked" number.

Guess where those big boned cows get ALL of their
calcium (Yeah, from plants!). Check out this page.

Or... Email your questions to Mr. Cohen


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Annie and Ray Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Rockford, Illinois
Time: 2000-11-02 18:05:54
Comments: YOU ROCK!!!! Wish I could have found you 10 years ago when I became a Step Mother to a very sickly little 3 yr. old boy who suffered reoccurring ear infections - and had been over medicated with antibiotics by his pediatrician (and the biological mother). My own personal experiences as a mother I knew to take MILK out of his diet... Everyone... EVERY ONE! fought with me and encouraged him to drink a glass when I wasn't in the room... (GRRRR) I didn't give up. Instead, I substituted natural juices and herbal teas, almonds and calcium rich veggies - even purified Water... which proved to be his saving grace - (sorry I rushed through this... hope everyone can get the jest of it.) Cows Milk isn't for HumanBeans! PERIOD!

Name: Steve Lopez
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Florida
Time: 2000-11-02 18:05:53
Comments: I was looking for general info. My neice was just diagnosed with autoimmune diabetes and she is very young. My mother heard about this site and asked me to look it up for her. On her 1st birthday checkup when children are vaccinated she also got off formula and on milk. We beleive this combination has lead to her diabetes. We have stopped all dairy products and are hopeing to reverse this condition. I will keep you informed of the progress. Great site.....keep up the good work. Thank you.

Name: Raúl M. Iglesias
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York
Time: 2000-11-02 17:27:17
Comments: trying to go dairy free, almost there. I want to be more educated and be able to educate other people

Name: Peter Fulda
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Michigan
Time: 2000-11-02 16:02:47
Comments: Here's how I had fun reading 'Milk the Deadly Poison'. I can't ever remember having this many people listen to me with such open ears on vegan issues. Cohen couldn't have named this book more appropriately. During two recent business trips I took it with me to read, and since the title looked sure to rattle a few peoples' thinking, decided to keep it as visible as possible in airports and planes. Wherever I'd be walking, especially getting on and off planes, I'd hold the book so that the title was in the glance of as many pairs of eyes as possible. Between the two trips, getting on and off eight different planes, I must have been approached by at least a dozen people about the subject matter, and most eagerly wrote down the Notmilk website without me telling them to. What a way to fall into conversations with complete strangers! Did I ever have a ball! Next time I travel by air, I will try the same thing with Gail Eisnitz' 'Slaughterhouse' even though I've already read it.

Name: Gaetano Cichy
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 2000-10-30 22:38:59
Comments: Keep up the great work. Just read your book, Milk- the deadly poison. I'm on board all the way now. NO DAIRY! And I'm an activist for the cause!

Name: Miranda
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Upstate New York
Time: 2000-10-30 18:05:51
Comments: I've always wondered if the push for Americans to drink milk was a scam. I'm doing my term paper on how dairy products are not as good for us as we believe. Thank you for this web page, its been making my research go by much more easily. It has also caused some raised eyebrows. Now I'll experiment with cutting out dairy and see how I feel. I am a runner with asthma and this could possibly be the cause. Thanks again.

Name: Earl Dennis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Idaho
Time: 2000-10-30 14:13:00
Comments: I was reading about the notorious "vegie Liable Law". I live in Idaho one of the states to pass such garbage. I see an interesting chance for national out cry. Idaho State University is a small University located in Pocotello,Idaho. Maybe it is time to entice a small town thinker to carry the tourch for Monsanto and the Solid Milk Producers. It would even be more commical considering Monsanto's sizable economic prevalance in out region.

Name: Karen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-10-30 10:36:42
Comments: Thank you for a great site, I find it very informative. I notice that there are a few messages from milk farmers giving their point of view (which they are entitled to) but with a not very objective one at that!! It makes me wander why they are looking at this site in the first place - curiosity or just sheer antagonism??!! I have done the research myself on milk..No matter what you milk farmers say, cause you will only praise it cause it is your welfare...and welfare being a HUGE issue. It's not normal to drink other animal's milk. So it is okay for a cow to be constantly pregnant to sustain a human satisfaction?? Personally I would not like to be constantly pregnant and my breasts pumped.. the sheer thought makes me sick!!I used to be a great cheese and milk lover, but had alot of stomach problems. I am now vegan, and have never been healthier.

Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kansas
Time: 2000-10-30 02:06:39
Comments: Human's are omnivores - basic science hasn't changed that much since I was in school. We haven't needed to rip flesh from bone for thousands and thousands of years, thanks to our superior intellect and manipulative hands. We can cook, and have learned how to domesticate and raise our prey. No other species protects another at the expense of it's own survival. Cattle have a rumen, horses have a cecum - all to digest grasses and fiber, converting the forages into protein the rest of the food chain can utilize - it's just all part of the big picture. And what's all this talk about the dairy farmer and big bucks? I sold my last cow the first of September - there just wasn't any money to be had milking cows, either as a herd owner or hired milker. So now I am working the night shift making bumper stickers - what a contribution to society. But I have lots more money, insurance, and three day weekends! Three things I did without for a long, long time. And sleep! And a social life. Like the bumper sticker says 'Don't cuss a farmer with your mouth full'. The ag industry is in dire straits - you should all appreciate the safe, abundant, and let's not forget inexpensive, food that the American farmer has provided. It may be every man for himself sooner rather than later. If you want good health, get plenty of exercise, rest, always fasten your seatbelt, and quit smoking. There are over 400 people where I work - and honestly, the healthiest ones are the milk drinkers. The heavy (many very heavy) do the soda thing, and have baskets of candy at their desks and light tables. It's pathetic. They are the ones who take the most sick days. I run circles around the most fit, and I'm 44 years old! My diet has been creamy, whole milk, straight from the cow for the past fifteen years. A lot of it. Tell me again - why has that been bad for me?

Name: Luis Jose Castro
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Bronx , New York
Time: 2000-10-30 01:13:25
Comments: I would like more info on soy cheeseand other soy product and where to get them. My address is 1525 WALTON AVENUE APT 4F Bronx, New York 10452

Name: Rick
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Havasu, AZ
Time: 2000-10-30 00:31:22
Comments: I've stopped drinking milk some time ago. It was a little harder to get my two children and wife off the stuff. I think the thing that got them was, "what other adult animal drinks milk?" They couldn't come up with any.

Name: Bruce S. Kern
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Reading, Pa.
Time: 2000-10-29 19:56:18
Comments: This man is doing a great service! I have been on the John A. McDougall program for a month and have lost 16 pounds and feel wonderful. Dr. McDougall allows no animal or dairy products.

Name: naida c. allison
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: king city, oregon
Time: 2000-10-28 22:25:02
Comments: can i e-mail people i don't know and tell them to go to NOTMILK.COM? i just want to inform as many people as possible about the horrors of milk products.if i get 1 out of 50 to stop using dairy products it is a start.i've gone from "coke glasses" to reading glasses in the 2 1/2 years since i have gone off dairy.lost 80 pounds also.i also don't eat any meat.i am 60 years of age.

Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-10-27 02:38:39
Comments: Yes I know all about SCC, I am a dairy farmer too. I know all about it and my operation depends upon low SCC as a source of increased gross revenue. Our dairy's milk buyer pays a premium for low SCC. Thus, there is an incintive for low SCC in the milk we produce and we go to great lengths to produce "clean" milk for that premium. We are not just poor "dust bowl" farmers-we are business men. We are after a living just like every suit wearing, tie sporting guy on Wall Street and we go for profits. You all say we are $-driven but in reality we are just trying to make an honest living while people like you give us a bad reputation. However, your latest response on your guest book is nothing more that an avoidance of the truth. You did not address the facts I have presented because you know that true, factual science cannot be corrected.--The Milkman

Sigh...

Between www.notmilk.com and www.hungerstrike.com there are over 400 WEB pages of valid information. Common sense should hint that the body fluids from ANOTHER SPECIES are not meant for human consumption. Especially something designed as SHORT TERM nutrition packed with growth hormones and COW-SPECIFIC immunizing agents.

However... more to the point... here is what the USDA says about cow's milk... along with what they have chosen to omit from WHOLE MILK!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Ed Reggi
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Brooklyn, New York
Time: 2000-10-27 02:31:02
Comments: I just heard Mr. Cohen speak a few weeks ago in Kansas City. I must say it was eye opening and changed my diet. Before I didn't twice about eating cheese in my veggie diet. Born very lactose intolerant I never craved the taste of cow's milk but always tempted by the creamy taste of Ice Cream and deserts. I never understood why I suffered so much afterwards! I learned why! His book is so powerful and straight-forward! I am learning to avoid the milk totally and not pick up that cheese meal anymore. And I took his challenge of not eating a milk product for more than two weeks and he was right--I do not suffer from the time-to-time cold-like hackers cough problems in the mornings. Its really working! Thanks Robert! Ed Reggi

Name:
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: earth citizen
Time: 2000-10-27 02:16:07
Comments: Glad to see you are taking on Organic milk producers next. Did anyone catch last issue of organic gardening? They should call it Organic Husbandry. They are pushing so much the meat & dairy industry? I know, from inside information that, Maria Rodale is real tight with those dairy farmers. I wish she would just stick to vegtables, & forget the other agendas. She is trying to make organic meat & dairy seem like health food. They are almost as devastating to our health, and equally harmful to our environment, just one small step less toxic...Did you catch their first issue of their new Organic Life style magazine, pushing MILK, etc. I really like the magazine & wish they would stick to the green stuff. Why not an article about calcium from greens?...While i'm rolling i think i will write to protest..When are they scheduled to take the BGH off the market? Will they issue you an apology, & maybe some compensation? Glad to see the journalists won their battle, against Monsanto. I have to visit more often, I see lots is happening, good luck & keep up the excellent work. No name this time, it would give away my insider source....but i'm a regular...

Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-10-26 21:59:49
Comments: Who are you all trying to fool anyway? Teenage girls who think "milk is bad because this suit-and-tie-guy tells us it is"? Really! I read your some of your arrticles on zits and their ties with dairy consumption and the connetion between the two is a mere grasp at straws. You say somatic cells are actually "pus" cells. Then you inturn call milk "pus". Somatic cells are by definition any of the body cells other than germ cells. It's a general term! Humans have millions of somatic cells in their body at all times, be them milk drinkers or asetic vegans. The somatic cells from milk are not LIMITED to milk. They are in every living creature. They are not just "pus" as you so put it. Zits are not caused form dairy consumption-that is an out right untruth. Zits are caused by infections of sebecus glands in the skin that produce sebecum, or as you say "pus". Also, you are quoted as saying "mucus and phlegm are produced as a result of cheese consumption". Mucus is produced by the body naturally as a means of natural body function. Your implying that if you stop eating cheese then mucus is not produced by the body which is outright blasphmey. Instead of reporting information in a way that it "just sounds good", why don't you all report everything in a way that it really is. Oh, but that might not make "facts" correlate to your cause.--The Milkman

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Clint,

Every dairy farmer in America is aware of the phrase:

"Somatic Cell Count." The abbreviated form is "SCC"

Farmers are paid a premium for milk with a low SCC. Milk with a SCC exceeding 750 cannot legally be sold. That would represent 750,000 cells per milliliter of liquid milk, or 750 million cells per liter.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mr. Scott
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: U of M Twin Cities
Time: 2000-10-23 13:48:49
Comments: Mr. Cohen, You are not qualified to corrupt the American Public in the way that you do. I myself started working with cows at a very young age (six years old). I can say that every farmer strives to keep their cows as clean and comfortable as possible. I Must admit you are doing well with your fad. And hopefully like all other Fads your's dies soon. Thank you

Pity your mind is already made up and you chose not to
read anything... or verify our information (that comes from
a wide variety of resources, including the government and
the dairy folks).

Getting better, or even well ... for FREE, is sort of a "fad",
isn't it. However... I am convinced the truth is here to stay!
Regards... Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: robert gingras
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: cocoa, florida
Time: 2000-10-22 20:20:38
Comments: i heard about this from jerry & pen and went to your seminar today in cocoa beach,,,i must say i was pleasantly impressed, and will never look at dairy products the same way again, esspecially milk. i went shopping with my wife afterward at publix and saw a friend, i was telling her about my experience, and another person wanted to hear more, so i directed him here to your web page,,,my heart and my prayers go with you always, thanks, robert

Name: joe calabresi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: boston
Time: 2000-10-20 09:39:23
Comments: bravo!-- convert the dairy industry into something useful

Name: Karen Larsen
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: CA
Time: 2000-10-18 01:21:22
Comments: I think your website is great. I stopped using dairy products once I found out the real truth about the industry and how detremental it is for your health. Thank You for a wonderful resource to refer to and send to people I know.

Name: Jamie Lynn Gooley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 2000-10-17 14:08:31
Comments: I think there are a lot of great tools and info on your web-site. I think there should be a bigger section on what to so about the problem and how to live a milk free life.

Name: Kinsey Hayman
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Idaho
Time: 2000-10-17 11:33:21
Comments: Wow this site is so full of wonderful information I wish my health teacher would update his lectures. Right now he lecutures the importance of getting your "3 glasses of milk a day". He needs to do some research.

Name: Allison
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-10-15 17:45:10
Comments: Thanks for easing my doubts about not drinking milk. You have made the choice a much easier one!

Name: Beverly Benchoff
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Houston, Texas
Time: 2000-10-14 23:31:12
Comments: This is a great site. I'm glad I found it. I like all of the comments I'm reading. It would be nice to know who's single and looking to meet someone vegetarian and compatible. You should think about some type of introduction or dating service.

Name: Hedda Schmutz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-10-14 10:07:40
Comments: Thank you for doing this. Have you had repercussions form the dairy industry?

Name: Suzanne
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Kansas City, MO
Time: 2000-10-14 09:38:01
Comments: Enjoy your site and am amazed by your passion. I am one of the few registered dietitians who believes meat and dairy are not worthy of the "food pyramid". I am currently working on my master's degree in nutrition and am amazed by the bias from some of my professors. I speak my mind in class and everyone looks at me as if I am from Mars (I really am). I plan to one day teach at the university level and educate future dietitians about the politics of food. I am married with 3 children who are being raised vegan. Thanks

Name: Clint McCoy
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Time: 2000-10-12 01:10:53
Comments: Really, you "people" crack me up. As of the last few weeks, I have been busting my butt studying for my admittance into veterinary college. As I stand now, I can say that I am shocked! Your "scientific" studies still have not improved since the last time I visited your site. One of your articles sited hairy heel warts as causing disease in humans and great comfort in cattle. WRONG! Hairy heel warts are strictly a Bovine METABOLIC disease and they have no effect on milk production at all. If you people knew anything about laction biology you would never print this slandor. And your facts about mastitis and 5% of all on farm cows have mastitis-they are true! Congrats!! You just found out what all dairy farmers know anyway! Mastitis is a disease brought on by infection of the mamarry glands of a dairy cow. Mastitis does not come from milk production, it comes from bacterial infection of a cow's mammary system from the outside environment namely Streph and Staph. Both of these are treated readily on farm and are very common occurances. And lung worms in humans???? Give me a freaking break! They don't even occur in cattle on a clinical basis! How can they then be passed to the milk supply?? Even if they did occur readily in cattle, the lungs have no effect on lactation other than supply of oxygen to the system. I also read your "study" of diabeatis. Basically, IDDM(insulin dependent diebeatitis meteritis) is caused by a decrease in beta-cell function in the pancreas. The beta cell cannot produce enough insulin to support normal bodily function! How can you blame that on MILK??? YOU CANNOT!! And Type II diabatis is caused by what I tend to call "big person's disease".. In other words, being fat caused a lowered sensitivity to insulin from the pancreas. Being "BIG" causes the body's pancreas to ignore the intake of carbohydrates. In general, fat people, for lack of a better term, have no significant raise in NIDDM than do "slim people". That is nothing to do with MILK product consumption!! Fat people just don't get that way from consuming milk products!!! Its called lack of exercise and family history of obesity!! And, like I have said before, its called brainwash from scare groups like you folks that try to undermine the deeply rooted American Dairy Industry.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

One wonders why somebody who already "knows it all" has to "bust his butt" studying as you admit you do.

You miss the point of my LUNG WORM column. I merely reviewed the ads contained in HOARD'S DAIRYMAN. There are hundreds of bovine diseases I could have reviewed. If companies advertise their products, one must assume that animals have the diseases.

BOTTOM LINE Humans drink body fluids from diseased animals in the name of good health. Those body fluids can contain PRIONS (the cause of mad cow disease), bovine leukemia virus (which passes to other species), bovine immunodeficiency virus, paratuberculosis (irritable bowel syndrome and Crohn's).

One day you may learn a little more than you wish to admit to in vet school. Although Staphlococcus Aureus is killed by pasteruization, the toxin it secretes into milk is not. You may learn that listeria lives in cheese for up to six months, and takes up to 45 days to culture in the human body before the first symptoms (vomiting, diarrhea, high temperature) are observed.

The idea of eating the lung worm-infected flesh from animals is offensive to most people, Clint. That tickle in one's chest...that permanent cough may very well be caused by a wiggly friend.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Haseena Napier
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From: Sioux City (at the moment)
Time: 2000-10-11 10:16:33
Comments: I am a Midwestern women who has always seen something wrong with humans attitudes towards animals and the idea of using them, for any thing. At this point in time, we as humans have the ability to survive on this earth with out harming other beings. It seems illogical to me (and barbaric) to continue to use animals for our cloths, food, pleasure and humor (as with circuses and zoos). I try not to judge other people for their decisions. No one is going to change through my anger and disgust. We each have the responsibility to educate ourselves and not take the word of industries that are suppose to protect us, like the FDA. The next step is to lovingly and gently teach those around us the things we have learned. I think I can change the world, and that is where it starts, with me.

Name: Joni Walkingstick
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From: Texas
Time: 2000-10-11 03:26:11
Comments: Love your site. I just turned vegan, and your site only reinforces my reasons why. Thank you so much for all your efforts and for being involved in such an important cause!

Name: Ian
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From: Austin, TX
Time: 2000-10-10 03:42:18
Comments: I just read the recent e-mail about crossing human and pig DNA. Perhaps for Episode 3 of the Star Wars saga scientists will genetically engineer alien creatures instead of having to CGI them!

Name: Scott Dunkle Sr.
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From: Portland, Or.
Time: 2000-10-10 03:08:11
Comments: Caught you on Mary Staret's radio talk show in Portland, Or. KPDQ 800AM Good job with your choice of "Notmilk.com". You have one of the few URL's I've been able to remember while I listen during my work day and certainly one of the best. The opening page is very good too. Clean and concise and quick. Thanks!

Name: Staci
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From: Indiana
Time: 2000-10-09 14:36:57
Comments: Wow. My life has changed since first being introduced to your site. We now are a completely vegan family thanks mostly to YOUR influence. Thank you for providing this accurate information for concerned people today. I know it must seem futile at times, but please press on. =0) I am grateful, as are my children, for your efforts.

Name: Teri Lioi
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From: Florida
Time: 2000-10-09 10:55:44
Comments: Bravo to you and yours. I have been a vegan for over a year. Thanks, to you and EarthSave. My soul even speaks louder and I feel fantastic. Lost 20 lbs. as an added bonus. Thanks for doing what you do! TGL

Name: Tracie Johnson
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From: Detroit
Time: 2000-10-09 10:20:30
Comments: Carnivores eat strictly meat, so they depend on other animals for nutrition. Carnivores have teeth also to be able to rip open flesh. Herbivores make their own food from water and sunlight, so they don't have to eat another plant to get nutrition because they make it themselves. No, our bodies were not built to eat meat. The original food was raw fruits and vegetables. We can't eliminate meat correctly because it takes too long to digest. Because it's foreign to the body. It has no nutrition.

Name: G. Ray Welz
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From: Shafter, CA
Time: 2000-10-09 00:51:28
Comments: You certainly have some very educated viewers/readers. Impressive responses to your question, and from all over the world. I believe that man is both a herbivore and a carnivore. Without checking my textbooks omnivore comes mind. Depending on the refinement of the individual the extent to which one can tolerate foods with prior trial differs greatly. Probably the more important question is how is the physical activity. The more I read the less I know, but I do know that without proper rest and exercise no matter what your diet consists of you are probably not healthy. Man does have incisors which could be considered by one of your winners to be a predator feature. Keep up the good work.

Name: Carol
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From: denver
Time: 2000-10-09 00:44:36
Comments: I adore your site! I have learned sooo much from this site and so many books. I just wish that my friend would come to this site. Her and her family eat meat and dairy products at EVERY meal And her mom doesn't believe anything that i tell her even with the facts. I know that I can't tell people how to live their lives I just wish that they would listen. And thank you again!!!!

Name: Vicki Cosio
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From: California
Time: 2000-10-08 23:17:07
Comments: Herbivore: eats a plants based diet (only), doesn't cause any animal suffering, and doesn't harm the environment! A compassionate individual! Carnivore: eats animal flesh, contributes to the pain and suffering of billions of animals, and causes much harm to the environment! Destroys the rain forest with their hamburgers (55 acres per hamburger). The human body is not meant to digest meat. It takes 5 days for meat to pass through the colon!

Name: Jan Jenson
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From: Statesville, NC
Time: 2000-10-08 22:56:24
Comments: I eagerly read ALL your emails - and often send them on to anywhere from two to 100's of friends, depending upon your subject matter. I don't care if they subscribe for themselves - I BELIEVE in your mission and have added it to mine - which is helping others improve their health. Knowledge is the key. You never know what will trip someone's trigger - and they will join our mission!

Name: Angela
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From: Buffalo NY
Time: 2000-10-08 22:27:49
Comments: Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" No. Actually the human body evolved eating plants. Vegetables, fruits, nuts.

Name: Don Mossman
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From: Ohio
Time: 2000-10-08 19:39:48
Comments: Thank you for all that you do. I would pity anyone who had to debate you in support of humans consuming dairy products. I am glad you are there! Maybe the dairy monster can be dismantled one customer at a time! Peace, etc, Don Mossman

Name: Kathy Stranc
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From: Utah
Time: 2000-10-08 19:20:21
Comments: Does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" In the book, Diet for a New America, John Robbins goes into depth explaining the difference between the digestion for a carnivore and a human, which he stipulates is an herbivore. First, the bowels are strikingly different. A carnivore has smooth stovepipe shaped bowels, while humans, who are designed to eat veggies, have puckering and pouching. Food goes through the carnivore's system faster. In our bowels, food can get caught in the pouches and putrefy. Fiber keeps the food moving. There is no fiber in meat. Fiber is in fruits and vegetables, beans and grains. Statistics clearly show that the more meat and the less fiber we humans eat, the more likely we are to get colon cancer, while eating meat does not bother dogs and cats at all. My dogs gets sick if he eats too much fruits and vegetables, and he will throw them up. In fact, dogs and other carnivores eat grass to clean out their stomachs. Anyone with a cat or dog has seen them do this.

Name: Peter Fulda
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From: Novi, MI
Time: 2000-10-08 12:22:42
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

1. A predator’s teeth are long, sharp and pointed. These are tools that are useful for the task of piercing into flesh. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's teeth are not pointed, but flat edged. These are useful tools for biting and sectioning.

2. A predator’s jaws move up and down, not sideways. These are tools that are useful for the tasks of ripping and tearing flesh for ingestion. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's jaws move up and down, and especially, sideways. These are tools that are useful for the tasks of crushing, grinding and chewing grains and high fiber foods. Animal flesh cannot be crushed, ground and chewed with the tools Mother Nature gave man without some degenerating process such as cooking or frying.

3. A predator’s saliva is highly acid and geared for the process of digesting animal protein. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's saliva is alkaline, geared for the process of digesting starches.

4. A predator’s stomach secretes digestive enzymes with ~10 times the amount of hydrochloric acid than a stomach such as man’s or any other plant eater's does. Hence, man must prepare his meats with laborious cooking or frying methods. E coli bacteria, salmonella, campylobacter, trichina worms [parasites] or other pathogens wouldn’t survive in the stomach of a lion.

5. A predator’s small intestine is perhaps three times the length of its trunk. This is a tool designed for rapid expulsion of food that rots quickly. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's small intestines are perhaps twelve times the length of its trunk, and winds itself back and forth in random directions. This is a tool designed for keeping food in it for long enough periods of time so that all the valuable nutrients and minerals can be extracted from it before it enters the large intestine.

6. A predator’s large intestine is a relatively short pipe. This passage is relatively smooth and runs fairly straight so that fatty wastes high in cholesterol can easily slide out before they start to putrefy. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's large intestines, or colons, is a puckered, baggy apparatus that runs in three directions [ascending, traversing and descending], designed to hold wastes that originally were foods high in water content. This is so that the fluids can be extracted from these wastes, now that all the useful nutrients and minerals have been extracted and the long journey through the small intestine is over. Substances high in fat and cholesterol that have been putrefying for hours during their long stay in the small intestine tend to get stuck in the pockets that line the large intestine. Instead of getting moisture to suck up, these little pockets get smothered by that slimy goo, turning the colon into a toxic dump site within the human body.

7. Animal flesh, composed of the most highly complex type of protein that exists, requires vast amounts of uric acid to process. Uric acid is released into the system in amounts necessary to break proteins down into amino acids. Uric acid, is a toxic substance responsible for the aging process must be flushed out and dealt with. That is one of the jobs of the liver. In relative terms, a predator’s liver is a tool designed with the capacity to eliminate ten times as much uric acid as the liver of man or that or other plant eater.

8. A predator has a gait, large paws and claws which enable him to hunt, chase and trap his prey. These are tools meant to kill. Man’s gait, as well as other plant eater’s is designed only for mobility. Examine your hand, fingers and fingernails. Is this an apparatus properly designed for catching, trapping, killing and ripping apart cattle, hogs, chicken and fish? How does this work for picking fruit from trees or harvesting vegetables. The foods your hands were meant to gather are typically high in water content, high also in fiber to sweep the wastes out of those intestines and collectively contain every vitamin and mineral necessary to sustain human life.

9. A predator’s frame of mind is totally geared for hunting and killing. Man's frame of mind that is compassionate, friendly and reveres life. When the lion spots another furry animal, something might instinctively click in his head that tells him to hurry up and get dinner. When man spots a furry animal, rather than show his children how to take its life and eat it, a more likely instinct is to pull out the camera to take a picture.

10. Man is not a natural hunter. Every predator, in order to go hunting, MUST be hungry. Man cannot go hunting if he is hungry, he must have a meal first. Hunger must precede a predator to go hunting. Hunger must follow man's desire to go hunting, it cannot precede it.


Name: Howard Jones
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From: SLC, UT
Time: 2000-10-08 11:20:02
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

In humans, the length of time the waste stays in the bowel seems to be a causitive factor for colon cancer. High fiber diets protect against colon cancer. Without fiber, the waste material remains in the colon longer, giving the bowel wall more time to absorb toxins. Fiber also aids in flushing out cacinogens. Meat digestion produces a lot of acids in the bowel. One of these is deoxycholic acid which becomes carcinogenic in the digestion process. Meat eaters have a much greater amount of this acid, in the bowel, than do vegetarians. So, human intestines have difficulty dealing with the high fat and low fiber, and are designed very differently from carnivores like cats and dogs. These animals have intestines which allow for much quicker passage of waste through the intestines. Human bowels are long and wind back and forth whereas carnivore bowels are smooth and short for quick elimination of waste. Carnivores therefore are not subject to colon cancer as are humans.

Name: Sonia
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From: Canada
Time: 2000-10-08 11:16:18
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

This pasage is taken from David Wolfe's Sunfood Diet Success System, pages 439 to 441, 1999. ((the information below answers the question on the physiology of carnivores and herbivores - although I personnally believe humans to be primarily fruitarians)) "Carnivore Teeth are long, sharp and pointed. No flat molar teeth. Sharp canine teeth. To facilitate tearing and biting, jaw can move up and down (vertically). No lip or pouchy cheek structure. Shape of the face allows the carnivore to dig into a carcass and rip out the entrails. Forward facing eyes: binocular vision. Drinks water by lifting it into the throat with the tongue. Tongue is rough and thin. Zonary placenta. Intestines are three times as long as the trunk of the body; their design facilitates rapid explusion of fleshy matter. Liver contains uricase, an enzymes used to break down uric acid; it breaks down 10 to 15 times as much uric acid as an herbivore. Bowel are smooth and short for quick explusion of waste matter. Digestive system has the capacity to expel amounts of foreign cholesterol. Saliva is acidic. Blood is acidic. Urine is acidic. Cools itself primarily through action of the tongue and mouth (panting). All four feet are clawed (to rip into flesh). Herbivore Front and canine teeth may be sharp or pointed. Back teeth are flattened for grinding. To facilitate the grinding of vegetable foods, jaw can move both up and down (vertically) and side to side (horizontally). Adaptable lip and pouchy cheek structure. Shape of the face allows animal to pull vegetation off the plants. Herbivores with predators: radial eyeset allowing for wide field of vision. Herbivores without predators: forward facing eyes; binocular vision. Drinks water by suction. Tongue is smooth and thick to manipulate vegetable matter into the back molars for grinding. Placenta non-deciduate. Intestines are at least 8 to 12 times as long as the trunk of the body; they are designed for extracting all nutrients from fiber plant. Liver has a low tolerance for uric acid. Bowels are sulcified and complex for the reconstitution of waste matter. Digestive system has no capacity to expel foreign choleterol. Saliva is alkaline; it contains enzymes specifically designed to break down starchy carbohydrates. Blood is alkaline. Urine is alkaline. Cools itself primarily through perspiration. All four feet are hoofed (cloven) or hands and feet contain individual digits (fingers or toes) with nails."

Name: RB Baker
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From: Culpeper VA
Time: 2000-10-08 10:37:22
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Regarding humans and consumption of both vegetable matter and meats: First- The teeth of land dwelling meat eaters are typically sharp, with incisors designed to cut meat easily. (I will use cats as my example here.) Cats typically do not chew their food well, but rather cut of a hunk of meat, and swallow it whole. The teeth of plant eaters are more typically blunt, even the front teeth. They are designed for grinding and pulverizing vegetable matter. This leads to the next part of the meat vs. plant question- the length of the intestines. In creatures that are strictly meat-eater, such as cats, the intestines are relatively short. (Cats just bite and swallow.) Animals that eat plant material have much longer intestines. They chew their food more completely, using the previously mentioned flat molars. The food they eat remains in the digestive track longer, allowing the more complete digestion needed. Ever notice what a cat does do "clean out" its stomach? It eats grass- and soon vomits it. The final point here deals with populations of differing animals. Those that typically have a stabile exisistence, will have less offspring. Horses and people usually have one offspring at a time. The food supply (vegetable matter) is constant, being all around us. Cats however, are more dependant on availablilty of meat, and have to have more offspring to offset changes in the food supply and insure survival. (Population is not solely determined by food, but there is a strong connection.) Human teeth include both incisors and molars. Our incisors are not pronounced, whereas we do have an extensive set of molars for plant material. This indicates we can eat both meat and plant, but are more readliy adapted for plant consumption. Our intestines are moderately long, indicating again that a plant-eating diet for humans is better, if not necessarily exclusive of meat. The offspring of humans again suggests that we are more stable, which is due in part to the supply of vegetable matter that is available on a relatively consistent basis. So the fact that we can get sustainence from many foods needs to be considered in the following light- the tropic (food) pyramid suggests that only one-tenth of the total energy of the previous level is transferred to the next level. This means that is takes ten times the amount of energy to sustain each level up on the pyramid. So those at the top of the pyramid, receive very little energy from those that are below. But we do get all the dioxines, chemicals and other materials that that were consumed by these animals, which never leave the flesh that we consume. So why not go to the source of the energy that all first level consumers (plant-eaters) go- the plant kingdom? You'll feel better, decrease the levels of concentrated chemicals consumed, give your digestive track a break, increase fiber consumption, and probably lose weight in the process. If you're human - eat vegetables!

Name: Kraeg
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Time: 2000-10-08 09:57:37
Comments: Response to 1938:
Quoting; "You have to have some sort of problem with your body (or something) so you can't drink milk."

I sure do..... I'm a Human, not a Calf.

Name: Brandon Reyes
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From: San Jose CA
Time: 2000-10-08 02:14:13
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

MEATEATERS:has claws. HERBIVORES (MAN):no claws MEATEATERS:no skin pores, perspires through tongue HERBIVORES(MAN):perspires through skin pores MEATEATERS:sharp front teeth for tearing. no flat molar teeth for grinding HERBIVORES (MAN):no sharp front teeth has flat rear molars MEATEATERS:intestinal tract 3 times body length so rapidly decaying meat can pass out quickly HERBIVORES(MAN):intestinal tract 10-12 times body length MEATEATERS:strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat HERBIVORES(MAN):stomach acid 20 times strong than meateater Why should we eat anything excreted from any living thing.

Name: Terri Cosgriff
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From: Ohio
Time: 2000-10-08 01:33:18
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

A carnivore has sharp pointy teeth and claws used for ripping into flesh, and also short intestines. A herbivore has just the opposite, smooth teeth for grinding and chewing, and a much longer intestines.

Name: K. C.Ward
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From: Modeswto, CA
Time: 2000-10-08 01:00:42
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

The digestive system of a sheep is many times the length of the animal. The digestive system of a cat is only one nad half the length of the animal.

Name: mike
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From: Minnesota
Time: 2000-10-08 00:14:49
Comments: thanks for all the info. I gave up eating meat seriously about a year and a half ago, and basically haven't eaten any meat in almost a year. I know a lot of the reasons to give up dairy, and I know meat is not good for you, but I was unsure exactly of why. I gave it up to avoid illness and disease, it's a bummer that it usually takes a health emergency for someone to eat right in america.

Name: Lee Steiner
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From: Dallas
Time: 2000-10-07 23:16:12
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

It was asked if humans are carnivores?and how could we tell??Let's take a quick look at the physical differences between carnivores and herbivores....Carnivores-very short intestines, meat quickly enters and exits body, so fermentation due to time in passing doesn't occur. Human intestines: EXTREMELY long. Can take up to 5 days for meat to travel thru. Hmmm.....results??P.U.!! Carnivores-pointy teeth, for ripping and tearing meat apart, the first part of digestion. Human teeth: flat, multi-surfaced, for grinding plants maybe?? Then we get to milk. Now, I realize that this is a NO MILK zone, but name another species that drinks milk, from a different species at all...then continue drinking the breast milk of a different species thru-out it's entire life, well into adulthood??None. I wonder why? Is it so difficult to see that it must not be to our benefit to drink cross-species mammary liquid?Ugh !! Well, I hope that this covers the question, but if you feel I need to elaborate, there are thousands of reasons man should not eat things that have a face. Thanks for letting me sound off !!

Name: Michele Miller
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From: Baltimore
Time: 2000-10-07 22:45:53
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

While the human body can TOLERATE a lot of "crap" we may put into it, a quick look across the animal kingdom shows that we were not physically designed to be carnivores. Like all other animal herbivores, human beings have a long digestive tract, very long! This gives all those wonerful vitamins and minerals found in the plant based diet we should be eating, optimal time to penetrate into our systems and make all of our cells healthy and strong! Every known carnivore, however, has a very small digestive tract. This is important b/c a lot of the unnecessary waste and excess protetin consumed from the meat they eat need to get out of the animal's body ASAP!! The point is we have long digestive tracts like all other Herbivores, not short ones like carnivores! And that's enough for me. Ask my anatomy and physiology professor how important the roles of the digestive tracts are to all walks of LIFE. Humans can eat paper and not die (at least not right a way) from it, but that doesn't mean it's good for us. The same is true about meat, just b/c we don't get sick immediately or die immediately from it does not mean it won't kill us!! Boy I've been wishing and wishing and wishing for a copy of that Book, :o)

Name: Carolyn Marchand
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From: Michigan
Time: 2000-10-07 19:58:11
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Was man designed to eat meat? If you believe the Bible look at Genesis 1:27 and 29: So God created man in his own image...male and female created he them. ...And God said Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food. Or, look at medical statistics on the diseases already connected to diet: Heart problems, cancer, stroke, obesity, diabetes. Even the AMA and dieticians are beginning to "get it" and "talk the talk" but most are not "walking the walk" yet. Better general health and later onset of diseases are powerful arguments for vegan diets. Physical differences in herbivores and carnivores: the digestive tracts are different--herbivores have a longer tract than carvivores to digest all the nutrients and fiber in plant foods. Animal foods lack fiber and so need less length and time to digest.

Name: Kerrie Saunders, PhD
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From: USA
Time: 2000-10-07 19:54:21
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

There are many important differences between a carnivore and an herbivore. True carnivores have long 'i-teeth'("fangs") for tearing flesh off of bones, very short intestines so that the flesh doesn't rot, saliva and stomach acid which are very acidic when compared to herbivores, and they have predatory habits. Human 'carnivores' have tools to catch, cook, and eat flesh off of bones, and predatory habits. Unfortunately for human 'carnivores', they do not have saliva, intestines, teeth, or stomach acids to match these habits, and therefore are very diseased as a result. An herbivore, by contrast, has flat teeth, long intestines to handle (and need)plant fiber, and saliva and stomach acids that are more alkaline when compared to true carnivores. Herbivores do not prey on any species with a central nervous system or face.

Name: Mark Simon
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Time: 2000-10-07 18:57:12
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Humans are herbivores. Our teeth, saliva and digestive tract are most suitable for the assimilation of nutrients from fruits, nuts, seeds, herbs and tubers. Our closest evolutionary cousins are primates which are primarily herbivorous. The human digestive system is not well suited for the digestion of coooked aninal protein, refined foods, dairy products, all beverages, artifical colors and flavors and preservatives. The more one deviates from tbe basic principles human nutrition, the more one will suffer from cancer, heart disease, arthritis, premature aging, ED, liver and kidney disease, etc.

Name: E.M.Cinelli
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From: 176 Chung Cheng Road, Pai-Ho City 732, Tainan Hsien,Taiwan, R.O.C.
Time: 2000-10-07 18:42:41
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

In the evolutionary process of man, today`s scientists are at odds about whether Man is a Herbivore or a Carnivore.

In my view Man has deviated from his Natural development as a Herbivore, which means an eater of vegetables, fruits, nuts and berries, and has become a Carnivore, which means an eater of animals, insects, fowl or fish or Omnivore (both Herbivore and Carnivore), out of convenience, custom or tradition, mixed with a lack of understanding of the human body so prevalent in Western societies.

1. It seems that Man`s teeth give a very good clue that he should be a Herbivore because the teeth are not designed to tear open the flesh of living animals but rather to grind sideways to be able to properly assimilate vegetarian food in take, such as nuts, cereals and fruits and vegetables, while flesh eating animals have an "up & down" movement of the jaws, with teeth designed to rip and tear.

2. Another clue seems to be the fact that Man`s intestines are long, about 42 feet, and take over 72 to 96 hours to digest flesh, while only about 16 hours to digest vegetation. This compares well with other" closely related vegetarian primates" in terms of quick digestion. Flesh eating animals usually have shorter intestines, about six feet,and take only 6 hours in order to move through and assimilate the meat quickly. The Human intestines do not seem to be meant to digest meat, since the longer time in the intestines lead to conditions which breed bacteria, viruses and parasites, at the expense of the host (the Human Carnivore),

3. A third reason is the fact that Vegetarian seem to live longer than meat eaters, as reported in many journals citing a Seventh Day Adventist study where it was ascertained that the Seventh Day Adventist lived on the whole at least 7 years longer than meat eaters in the USA. Now many scientific studies are noticing that vegetarians heal faster than meateaters, and that they suffer less life threatening diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson`s, cancer etc., than meateaters. As an example, the great healer,Dr Johanna Budwig,puts her near death patients on a completely vegetarian diet as a strict regimen because the body can assimilate that kind of food better.

4. Lastly, vegetarian fare has live much needed enzymes when eaten raw (or not over cooked) while meat is loaded with animal diseases, including viruses, parasites, bacteria, along with the "dead spirit of animals" that knowingly died horrible deaths, as the Ancients Wisemen knew, Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato and a host of other Western philosophers were vegetarian, as were/are many Eastern philosophers and "Holy men."

These are some quick, "off the top of the head" reasons or notions, why I feel that Man was meant to be a Herbivore and not a Carnivore. Is it any wonder why so many people are afflicted with life threatening diseases brought about in the main by a poor choice of food? The old adage, "We are what we eat", should be amended to say ," We are what we assimilate" and when that comes from flesh, it is easy to understand why Man is lucky to live "three score and ten" rather than enjoy a longer and healthier life.

One doesn`t have to be a renowned scientist to understand these simple notions, because many people in remote areas of the world still live this way. In fact,it may come as a shock to many people, but most of the world is still vegetarian! Good luck and good eating!

E.M. "Mike' Cinelli


Name: Diane Moreton
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From: Mars
Time: 2000-10-07 18:07:18
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

"Does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Answer: The difference between a herbivore and carnivore is the length of incisors. No, just kidding! Actually there is such a difference, that a human being, being enticed by the taste of animal flesh, is putting himself/ herself at enormous risk of bad health in the form of heart disease and other chronic diseases that typically develop later in a person's life, due to the enormous quantities of saturated fat and cholesterol of others' they consume. Yes, this is quite tempting. I still don't know why God could make such a blunder. Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" Since the length of the lower intestine is several feet shorter than an actual carnivore's, I highly suspect not. If the human body were ever designed to eat other sentient beings, than why not just eat humans? Maybe they taste better than chicken! The Creator gave us plant-based food to keep up healthy and wise, and animal-based 'food' to prove the stupidity of Man.

Name: Gordon W. Watts
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From: Tallahassee
Time: 2000-10-07 17:22:20
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Dear friends, Letter # 1943 (Mike from Minnesota in my NOTMILK guestbook asked: "Does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" I will send a FREE BOOK and TAPE (MILK-The Deadly Poison) to the best response posted to my guestbook in the next 24 hours. (Robert, here is my answer. -Gordon) My Answer: (Credit for most, but not all, of this info below goes to Dr. Wayne "The Mango Man" Pickering, whose chart helped me here.) While carnivores (like dogs & wolves) have a short bowel to expel the putrid flesh, our ailamentry canal is long to give good digestion to the plant nutrients, which need slow digestion, breakdown, and uptake. Our intestional bacteria is more like other herbivores' than meateaters'. We don't have fangs! Also, we can grind and mince our food (which carnivores can not do), both indicators of plant eaters. Flesh eaters sweat (like pigs) through their toungs, not their skin! Humans, monkeys, horses, antelopes, & cows sweat through the skin. Carnivores, like the dog, lap water, but humans & other herbivores suck when drinking their liquid! Humans and other plant eaters have ptyalin (also called amylase) in the saliva to begin starch breakdown of plants; meat eaters do not. Carnivores have a much larger liver than herbivores, including humans. Carnivores also produce about ten (10) times the Hydrochloric Acid for digestion of things like bones , meat, feathers, and sinew. Also, if we were truly meat eaters, then we would eat the whole animal RAW as do other flesh eaters, not just the COOKED muscle part, to disguise the taste of it being is DEAD MEAT! But, forget all that: Vegans live longer than vegetarians, who, in turn, live longer than meat-eaters; and fruis and veggies taste better, are less cruel to animals, and a more efficient use of the grain than feeding it to animals, who produce FAR LESS calories than were fed them, becasue a lot of the food fed to them turns into UNUSABLE grissle and bone and stuff. Thus, more hungry people can be fed DIRECTLY by plants than through animals who incur about a ninety-percent (90%) energy efficiency loss! But, reread that "taste better - live longer - peace of mind" stuff above. --Gordon

Name: Katarina Popovic
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From: CLeveland,OHio
Time: 2000-10-07 17:32:51
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

I would say that human beings are NOT designed to ingest animal products. If we were truly carnivores, like lions and tigers, why does the idea of killing animals disgust many of us? WHere is our killer instinct when we see a little rabbit hopping across the lawn? Why doesn't our instinct tell us to devour the little creature, capture it and eat it RAW? That is another problem. Human beings always seem to have to cook their meat and process their animal products. True carnivores don't inquire whether a roast should be cooked at 375 degrees and whether they should add salt or pepper. True carnivores also have sharp teeth ( for shredding and ripping ) and very aggressive natures. They also have CLAWS, and are very quick and agile. Shall we include insects that eat other insects? Ever notice what THEY look like? And the talons of a BIRD, which help it clutch on to hapless little insects or fish as it swoops down from the sky? And the vultures that use their beaks to rip into decaying flesh?. All of these characteristics are needed for HUNTING. Herbivores have flatter teeth and they also usually have hands ( like humans and chimpanzees ) or hoofs ( like giraffes and horses). They have softer natures and do not need to be aggressive because what is so hard about picking berries and grazing on grass? The intestinal tract of a carnivore is shorter than that of an herbivore ( we also have longer intestinal tracts ) and we also sweat, as opposed to their panting. Carnivores also manufacture their own vitamin C, while herbivores do not. The fact that there is too much protein in both milk and meat,which causes osteoporosis and other illnesses, should be evidence enough that we should not be eating these products. If these foods were made for us, why are they so detrimental to the body? Why will we get gout, diabetes, asthma, heart disease, fat, and other illnesses if it is so good for us? It just doesn't make any sense. Ninety percent of people in this planet are lactose intolerant, and the other ten percent just "tolerate" it! Why are we drinking milk? These foods are also extremely difficult to digest and can last hours in the stomach, causing people to feel sluggish and rundown. Vegetables and fruits are easily digestable and give us energy right away. And why do nuts and certain fruits contain a lot of fat? I really think because mother nature planned it that way. People complain, oh walnuts, etc., are so fatty, but for a species that was not made to rely on animals for food, these nuts provide the fat,protein and other substances we need and in just the right amounts too! One must look at all the evidence, not just the physical types of herbivore and carnivore, but the variety of food provided by nature, the lifestyle and habitats of certain creatures, etc., to see that we don't need these foods. And who knows, maybe after centuries of poor diet,maybe we have evolved genetic predispositions to certain illnesses?

Name: Barbara Langan
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From: NY
Time: 2000-10-07 17:02:08
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

I just posted a letter in response to the Herbivore/Carnicore inquiry. Here, I would like to comment that I read the NOTMILK information every day and find it quite interesting... Today, we are faced with many conditions that did not seem to exist (at least in such large numbers) years ago. I am referring, for example, to many more children diagnosed with ear infections, and asthma. Also noted are more cases of ADD and ADHD. I have wonderded if all the immunizations given to modern children were the culprit, along with too many antibiotics. Since getting tuned in to the NOTMILK group, and being more informed about hormones, antibiotics, etc. given to cows....well maybe that is the answer! Now think about the increased number of "newer" conditions such as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, yeast infections...to name but two. It does leave me wondering! While I have not had a glass of milk in 30 or so years, I do sometimes have cheese, so I am not a non-milk person per se. I will continue to read these articles with great interest (and take my calcium supplements!)

Name: Frances Bonner
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From: Ellisville, Missouri
Time: 2000-10-07 16:59:43
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

I think the difference in an herbivore and a carnivore is their teeth. A carnivore has fang-like teeth for tearing the flesh of their prey while an herbivore eats only plants and does not need fangs. Humans were not meant to eat meat so do not have the teeth of carnivores.

Name: Barbara Langan
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From: NY
Time: 2000-10-07 16:45:07
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

A herbivore is an animal that lives on plant matter for food. A carnivore consumes animal products. Humans are categorized as omnivores (eating both plants and animals.) Physically, the teeth are different for herbiovres and carnivores. There are also differences in the gastro-intestinal tract for the two groups, (including varied enzymes.) Based on both grinding teeth (molars) and canines and incisors, I would say that physically, man has adaptations for both plant and animal consumption. Man lacks the ability to digest the cellulose found in plants, so does not derive the same benefit from plants as grazing animals. Based on these few characteristics, (along with enzymes to digest animal products), I say the human body is designed to eat animal products.

Name: GymnAlice
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Time: 2000-10-07 15:26:32
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

There are several key differences between the bodies of herbivores and carnivores. I will compare my body with that of my dog as an example.

My dog has claws and fangs to hunt his prey and tear out its flesh and crunch on its bones.

I have nails that wouldn't do much damage to any cow or pig or chicken. I have teeth classified as "canines", but the truth of the matter is that they couldn't rip raw flesh off of bones and eat them.

My dog has a stomach designed for eating meat RAW. E. coli and other bacteria don't faze him in the slighest. His body is perfectly equipped to handle them.

I must cook meat thoroughly if I am going to eat it, or I run the risk of DYING from salmonella, e. coli, etc.

My dog's saliva digests meat, even "on it's way down". If you could train a dog to hold a piece of raw meat on his tongue, it would eventually break down.

My saliva does no such thing. If I put a piece of raw meat on my tongue, it would stay the same, until it eventually decayed. Contrast that with an apple, which if I kept in my mouth long enough would completely break down without chewing.

My dog's intestines are short and smooth, to elimate meat in a timely fashion. When I feed my dog raw meat, he will eliminate it within a day or so.

My intestines are a long and twisted maze. They are not smooth, they have ridges and folds. Decaying meat could get stuck in those ridges and cause me harm. My intestines are built for eating fibrous foods (animal foods have no fiber) which will "sweep" the intestines clean.

I feed my dog raw organic meat, for that is his biologically appropriate diet. I feed myself raw fruits and vegetables, and nuts and seeds, for that is my biologically appropriate diet.

Makes sense to me :)

Name: Craig
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Time: 2000-10-07 15:38:07
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Carnivores = sharp teeth for ripping and tearing Herbavores = dull flat teeth for grinding ( despite that human and carnivore teeth share some names, they are not alike at all) Carnivores = short funnel-like digestive tract for rapid transit time and rapid disposal of ingested toxins. Herbavores = long winding ribbed-like digestive tract with millions of places to trap non-fibrous material that rots and causes disease. Carnivores = non-opposable thumbs; can't hold tools, can't farm, eat what is instictive for them to eat. Herbavores = non-opposable thumbs; can't hold tools, can't farm, eat what is instictive for them to eat. Humans = opposable thumbs; can hold tools, can farm, eat what is taught to them to eat.

Name: marci mccray
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From: montana
Time: 2000-10-07 14:17:59
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Hi There is a woman, an MD, who has done the research.. even biblical research, regarding humans and the subject of their carnivorous activity... It is, according to this very Knowledgeable woman doc, not natural. We were never meant to be meat eaters... you can check her info by logging on to: www.drday.com. She cured herself of cancer several years back and has much more info to share. Our bodies, teeth and intestinal works are not built to deal with meat, this is a biological fact, not just a preference. Check it out. Even if you don't care whether or not we are meant to eat meat, you should log on to Dr. Day's sight, she has a huge knowledge bank. Happy Eating and NotMilk drinking. Here's to your health!! Ciao. Marci

Name: DR EDWARD HARTMAN
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From: LEVITTOWN PA
Time: 2000-10-07 14:31:45
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

The following is what I use in my practice to demonstrate the comparisons between Carnivores, Herbivores, Omnivores, and Humans. If you would like a copy of a full article that explains this in more detail, The Comparative Anatomy of Eating by Milton R. Mills, M.D., just email me and I'll send it to you.

GENERAL SUMMARY

FACIAL MUSCLES

Carnivore: Reduced to allow wide mouth gape
Herbivore: Well-developed Omnivore Reduced Human Well-developed

JAW TYPE

Carnivore: Angle not expanded Herbivore Expanded angle
Omnivore: Angle not expanded Human Expanded angle

JAW JOINT LOCATION

Carnivore: On same plane as molar teeth Herbivore Above the plane of the molars
Omnivore: On same plane as molar teeth Human Above the plane of the molars

JAW MOTION

Carnivore: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
Herbivore: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
Omnivore: Shearing; minimal side-to-side
Human: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back

MAJOR JAW MUSCLES

Carnivore: Temporalis Herbivore Masseter and pterygoids
Omnivore: Temporalis Human Masseter and pterygoids

MOUTH OPENING vs. HEAD SIZE

Carnivore: Large
Herbivore: Small
Omnivore: Large
Human: Small

TEETH (Incisors)

Carnivore: Short and pointed
Herbivore: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
Omnivore: Short and pointed
Human: Broad, flattened and spade shaped

TEETH(Canines)

Carnivore: Long, sharp and curved
Herbivore: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
Omnivore: Long, sharp and curved
Human: Short and blunted

Teeth (Molars)

Carnivore: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
Herbivore: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
Omnivore: Sharp blades and/or flattened
Human: Flattened with nodular cusps

CHEWING

Carnivore: None; swallows food whole
Herbivore: Extensive chewing necessary
Omnivore: Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing
Human: Extensive chewing necessary

SALIVA) Carnivore: No digestive enzymes
Herbivore: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
Omnivore: No digestive enzymes
Human: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes

STOMACH TYPE

Carnivore: Simple
Herbivore: Simple or multiple chambers
Omnivore: Simple
Human: Simple

STOMACH ACTIVITY

Carnivore: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
Herbivore: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
Omnivore: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
Human: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach

STOMACH CAPACITY

Carnivore: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
Herbivore: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
Omnivore: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
Human: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract

LENGTH OF SMALL INTESTINE

Carnivore: 3 to 6 times body length
Herbivore: 10 to more than 12 times body length
Omnivore: 4 to 6 times body length
Human: 10 to 11 times body length

COLON

Carnivore: Simple, short and smooth
Herbivore: Long, complex; may be sacculated
Omnivore: Simple, short and smooth
Human: Long, sacculated Liver

VITAMIN A Carnivore: Can detoxify vitamin A
Herbivore: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
Omnivore: Can detoxify vitamin A
Human: Cannot detoxify vitamin A

KIDNEY

Carnivore: Extremely concentrated urine
Herbivore: Moderately concentrated urine
Omnivore: Extremely concentrated urine
Human: Moderately concentrated urine

NAILS

Carnivore: Sharp claws
Herbivore: Flattened nails or blunt hooves
Omnivore: Sharp claws
Human: Flattened nails


Name: Evelyn Blake
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Referred by: From a Friend
From: WV
Time: 2000-10-07 13:53:17
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

A herbivore is a mammal that feeds on herbage. A carnivore is a flesh eater, devours animal substance. The only clean meat is what the Bible says to eat, but I eat very little animal meat!

Name: Noelle de Lioncourt
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From: Virginia
Time: 2000-10-07 10:04:32
Comments: I have been a vegetarian since age 10 (I am now 28), but I have recently gone vegan, because quite honestly, the horrors of dairy farms are even more hushed than the slaughterhouses. Luckily, people are finally realizing that consuming animal flesh is vile an unhealthy, but the dairy industry is still force feeding Americans the false pretense that you need calcium at all hours of the day and that pus-filled milk is the only way to get it!! What a shame, such lies.

Name: mike
Website:
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From: minnesota
Time: 2000-10-06 22:21:33
Comments: does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Is the human body designed to eat animal products?

Name: Eirik Pontious
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From: Arizona
Time: 2000-10-05 18:18:32
Comments: You people have problems. You quote the bible in your rambling emails, when the bible says that animals were put here for man's use. Do you know what happens to people who don't get enough clacium, they get osteoperosis, thats what. YOu know what forget about that, let me just say this, if you don't want to drink milk, thats fine. But don't preach to people who do about how horrible they are for drinking it. And another thing, i think those cows have a much better life than you think. They are fed, and sheltered, which is a lot more than what a lot of people get. why don't you turn your attention towards helping the homeless or something. Oh yeah one more thing, if you think cows are mistreated for their milk, you better stop eating vegetables to, because they too are confined in an area, given chemicals to make them grow bigger and better, and when they have outlived their usefullness, they are ripped from their home and slaughtered just so they can be eaten.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Biblical scholars agree that heaven on earth was located in the Garden of Eden. Genesis 1:29 reveals the ideal menu for man:

"I give you every seed-bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food."

I ask you to use your imagination, and visualize a judgement day audience with whomever might be your concept of God. At that one-on-one meeting, there is a buffet table. Do you imagine that there would be rare lambchops dripping with blood, and beef tongue sandwiches? How about pink veal, cut from a baby cow? How about arms and legs from freshly butchered chickens? Ever visit Chinatown? A Chinese God might even include the head. Don't forget to eat the eyes and face.

My concept of the last/first supper would include the bounty of those fresh fruits and seeds. There would be ripe dates and olives, corn and apples, bananas and the very ripest of pineapples and mangos. The meal would include walnuts and almonds, and dozens of sprouts. Edible flowers and ripe peas and beans.

Dine in heaven, my friend, and eat those fruits with the brightest of colors, and the sweetest of perfumes and bouquets. Reject the dead flesh, which contains those hormones secreted at the moment of a fearful and stressed death. Eat a diet of foods with life including fresh enzymes. Let the live food nourish your cells and spirit.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: LIL
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From:
Time: 2000-10-04 16:42:34
Comments: You know it's got to be risky to speak out on the Dairy industry and their high pressure sales...But somebody has to do it. Thanks for the alternative ideas. How can we empower farmers to return to the very small farm with integrity? Maybe we need to just get smaller and more inter-dependent with a little garden here and a little goat herd there and share the good of the land together. One things for certain, we need the Truth or we will have nothing to trust. And I know from experience that the animals in large dairies suffer from abuse!!!!

Name: Christina Laumbattus
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Time: 2000-10-04 11:08:20
Comments: This site was very interesting and helpful, but I would like to read about dairy and weightloss.

Name: Jennifer
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From: nj
Time: 2000-10-03 22:37:26
Comments: Thank you for an informative site. You have helped me make a great healthy decision for my family with the info you provided. I do find it funny how upset people get if you try to tell them that the milk they drink isn't a good as they have been told it is all their life.

Name: A Milk Drinker
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From: A Dairy Place
Time: 2000-10-03 16:34:36
Comments: Hello, I thinkt that whoever actually believes this stuff, you care crazy!!! You have to have some sort of problem with your body (or something) so you can't drink milk.

Name: Aimee
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From: San Jose, CA
Time: 2000-10-02 10:27:17
Comments: I have been coming to your web site for quite some time now (since I read your book), maybe two years, and I just wanted to say thanks. I learn something new with each visit and my committment to being vegan is renewed each time. I'm several months pregnant now and I LOVE telling people about my wonderful vegan pregnancy! Oh, the shock and horror I experience from people, but I'm spreading the NotMilk word!

Name: Jozi
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From: Florida, United States
Time: 2000-10-02 07:14:11
Comments: i was attracted by the titile of the webpage and i deciede to have a look at what's in here. I found the content and information useful and rather intersting but the graphics are rather offending. i do think that it's an insult to the milk industry. Afterall, milk has been a part of everyone's life for such a long time! Jozi

Name: Ray Mitchell
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From: Michigan
Time: 2000-10-01 13:08:20
Comments: It's very disturbing to realize that my cardiac transplant,as well as my stint with insulin dependence, was quite possibly due to consumption of dairy products. It really is deplorable that GREED endangers the world's populace. SHAME on the dairy producer and the politician for allowing their pursuit of personal gain to cause the dangers of dairy product consumption to be hidden from their potential victims.

Name: Sue
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From: Ontario, Canada
Time: 2000-10-01 07:03:28
Comments: I just want to say thank you for a wonderful site. I strongly believe that knowledge is power. By putting out this site and educating more people there is hope. They/we just have to open your eyes and see. Thanks, and I have sent out emails to everyone to check you out. I will be back.

Name: Nan
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From: Plymouth, Ma
Time: 2000-09-30 23:19:38
Comments: Mr Robert I really think that the National Dairy Association should paint that white lip on Marion Jones. This is the best way to promote the use of drugs, be it rBGH or steroids. Why not, she is in the company of another who could not perform in the Olympics, due to drug use. Ms Jones, she had to know of her husband's use. So she gets 5 medals, all not acceptable to me. Then she goes down in the record books for most medals. So let that National Dairy Association paint that lip, to insure the use of all drugs, be it steriods or rBGH.

Name: Susan Rudd
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From: Ft.Myers.FL
Time: 2000-09-30 15:04:16
Comments: Milk Doc (Robert Cohen) is a fabulous auther and researcher as well as a gift for this humanity! I LOVED the book.Milk the deadly poison, such a thriller designed to help combat mans inhumanity to man and animals! With a background in nursing and rehabilitation, I've often searched for dietary links to contamination from the environment to help patients with all types of physical challenges. I found the book in the library and wrote the author and he wrote me back telling me of the various websites. We can make a difference.

Name: Martha
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From: N.Y.
Time: 2000-09-29 17:43:11
Comments: Fanatics must stick together, and what a crew is gathered here! Rock on whackos!

Name: Paul Santos
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From: Toronto, Canada
Time: 2000-09-28 10:53:37
Comments: I think your web site is great. I have been off all dairy products for almost 1year and i've never felt better.

Name: richard dorn
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From: florida
Time: 2000-09-27 02:14:04
Comments: Mr.Cohen, I am a 36 year old male who has always led the typical american diet of meat and dairy. I stumbled upon your site about a week ago and can honestly say that my life has been changed. I have always been interested in learning about vegetarianism but felt like many veggies were extreme conspiracy-theory zealots. I just wanted you to know that your professionalism in presenting your well-researched and documented facts is greatly appreciated. It has not only opened my eyes but i am now dedicated to becoming a vegan from this point on in my life. It is nice to know that people such as yourself are fighting for our country and others as well. Please keep up the fight. I'll do my part on this end. Thanks so much, Richard Dorn

Name: Emily Dunne
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From: Central,CA
Time: 2000-09-26 17:35:38
Comments: About 3 months ago my dr told me I have low blood pressure, and my sugar was off on a GTT. She advised me to eat more meats and dairy. I now have acne, which I've not had in years, I also noticed I'm starting to look older, among some other things...no one in my family believes me when I say that it's makeing me feel terrible, (my family came over from England 40 yrs ago) and every meal is meat & dairy. I'm so glad I found this site it's really opened my eyes.. it makes me feel like I'm not crazy after all. This stuff really does stink...Thank you for the information, Emily

Name: Akili Nyakobabatu Ajala
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From: baltimore
Time: 2000-09-26 15:43:06
Comments: this is a great site well, well needed. I am a vegan, I just started a all raw diet and love it so far. Every year I do a fast anywhere between 7~ 40 day, and when I do this I normally take something out of my diet. This year I took out cooked foods. Please please don't ever get rid of this site. I just hope you can find lots of raw food recipes. thank you

Name: Rosalee
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From: Oregon
Time: 2000-09-23 21:17:22
Comments: I guess my father's comment that 'cow milk is for calves not human beings' was correct... ..(He was a member of FFA and did judging of dairy cows when he was in high school. .. .I guess he understood better than most people what cow milk is for!! Too bad it took me so long to apply his knowledge!

Name: Rosalee
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From: Oregon
Time: 2000-09-23 21:24:15
Comments: I just want to say that the switch from organic milk to organic soy has left me with so many changes that it is just unbelievable. It was hard at first because some of the soy products that I tried were not particularly palatable (I used soy instead of rice because I need the protein in soy. . rice has little in it)but I found 'WESTSOY 100% Organic' that I have come to ((((love)))) in tea, coffee, and my daily morning cafe latte with chocolate. . .a real treat! But more importantly I have noticed that I no longer have the terrible fluid retention that I had when I was using milk and many other things that I am convinced were caused by ingesting milk and products containing milk!

Name: Crissy Johnson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-09-23 10:29:00
Comments: I wanted to apologize to everyone who has read the horrible message that I sent. I read everything on Mr. Cohen web page and realized that he is against animal slaughtering and I too am against it and the only article I read made me feel like he was for animal slaying. I really do apologize. If anyone would like to e-mail me back may do so. I have personally apologized to Mr. Cohen himself. Thank You for you time, Crissy

Name: Adrian Mathews
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 2000-09-22 13:50:59
Comments: Thank You! for the data on the explosion of lymphatic cancer in the U.S. You have done a tremendous job. Do stop by and visit us and Sign our guestbook. I would like to exchange links with your site on my 2 sites that get quite a lot of traffic. Is drinking just weigh better? Please advise.

Name: Hank
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: stamford, CT
Time: 2000-09-22 00:02:06
Comments: Hey...... Mr. Cohen why does the government want to harm us? They create a type of paradox that inherently harms human beings, THEIR future offspring as well! Why do they keep secrets like the milk from the general public? Why can't they just stop harming human beings? Should we resort to anarchy? I'm trying to formulate a good thesis against milk for an essay. I can quote cool people like you =)

Name: Jodi Favata
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minnesota
Time: 2000-09-20 16:32:28
Comments: This is a very interesting site!

Name: Earl Dennis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Idaho
Time: 2000-09-20 15:39:39
Comments: Subject: Re: NOTMILK - - - LETTER FROM HEAVEN Add Addresses Dear Robert Cohen, I sent you an email simular to this last year. I am glad to see I am not the only crazy person to for go ritalin. My story is one of complete success. My son Aaron is now the top of his class. His mind is clear and his eyes are bright with the wonder of learning and living. He wants to be an engineer and build airplanes or space ships. With my success comes great saddness for the 3 million other children and the millions that went before doing the right thing and drinking their milk. Respectfully yours Earl of Idaho

Name: Mandy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 2000-09-20 01:31:49
Comments: Robert, I was watching something the other day about the rampant use of performance enhancing drugs among Olympic athletes. The name of one in particular really caught my attention: insulin-like growth factor! It's one of the many that are not detectable by the testing methods that are currently being used. If you're not onto this yet, just thought I'd send some ammo your way.

Name: russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-20 01:17:16
Comments: to mr. cohen ,and mr. reitz , I tink you both need to get help. i never realisied that their were people in this world quite like you .Get a life , do somthing better with your time , go cry to somone else about your problems,or find a real problem to cry about, you make me sick, excuse me i have to go barf now.

Dear Russell,

You posted a comment at the NOTMILK guestbook on September 6th, asking a question about a milk hormone, insulin-like growth favtor-I. (Guestbook letter #1889).

I see that you did not like the answer.

Milk also contains casomorphin, a morphine-type substance associated with attention deficit disorder and autism (according to Robert Cade, MD, University of Florida). One out of five children in America take RITALIN for this condition.

Your most recent letter makes it clear that you are not taking your medication, Russell. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tom Hall
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-19 18:18:31
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I thought you might get a kick out of these jokers with a dairy cow cam. This is the link, check it out if you have the time http://www.lancasterfarming.com/cowcam.html Keep up the good work. Maybe one day All americans will pull their heads out. Tom Hall

Name: DUDLEY LEWIS
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: California
Time: 2000-09-17 01:03:05
Comments: Thank You! for the recent data on the explosion of lymphatic cancer in the U.S. and the corresponding rise in enlarged lymphatic tissue in test rats that occurred in the trials of the rBGH. This is a smoking gun if there ever was one. I have copied the data to give to my clients and will pass it out at the world solidarity conference in Cuba when I go with a medical group in November. Thanks Again Dudley Lewis

Please see the correction to that article. Despite many levels of double-check the data was compromised by U.S. Government induced "clerical error".

     Please read Mr. Cohen's update on this issue at:

http://www.notmilk.com/lymph.html

     For a letter of apology by the culprits... please read the scanned letter at:

http://www.notmilk.com/graphics/dhhsadd2.gif

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Down Under
Time: 2000-09-16 07:19:46
Comments: If you're going to talk scare tactics and brainwash, then look at the Dairy Industry. They feed people not only Cow Milk, but also Bull Sh!t.

Name: JEFFREY A. MATNEY
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: NORTON, OHIO
Time: 2000-09-15 22:49:42
Comments: THIS IS VERY INFORMATIVE. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-15 13:03:29
Comments: BLIND FAITH? Blind faith in right wing groups like the "notmilk" champaign who uses poor science and scare tactics is not only questionable, its brainwash. REGUARDS-THE MILKMAN

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I have been accused of being a right winger, left winger, communist, Nazi, and capitalist pig. I've been called a male chauvinist and women's libber. I've been ridiculed as a know-nothing who never went to college, and been called a disbarred attorney, malpracticed physician, real estate developer, and failed dairy farmer.

While all of the above accusations are "perfectly true", why not focus upon the things I say and the science behind them. For centuries, critics have had to resort to attacking the messenger while ignoring the message. You are like many others who accuse me of using poor science, then fail to come up with just one example to substantiate your claim.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lori Gurule
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Denver
Time: 2000-09-14 22:30:19
Comments: I really am glad that someone is willing to expose the utter crap being handed to us by groups such as the FDA, Dairy Council, and the good old AMA, to mention only a few. Blind faith in these well known organizations is not only fool hardy, but down right dangerous. I really appreciated the 'Milk the Deadly Poisin' Book also. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!

Name: Be|a Lugosi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NC, USA
Time: 2000-09-14 12:40:33
Comments: I added a link to your page on my IRC channel site. I find your site amusing. The link is as follows: http://www.geocities.com/ncdalnet the link is under, links of course haha.. ciao

Name: Peter Phippen
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: New London, New Hampshire
Time: 2000-09-13 23:09:38
Comments: I am so grateful to receive the daily updates on the NOTMILK site, and the millenium message to the world regarding the census data and rBGH is literally earthshaking (that's the dairy industry, FDA and other Gov't slaves to Drug Companies rolling out the big artillery of BULLS__T). THe system does work, and we are all witnessing the unraveling of a very top -heavy and bloated relationship. Thank you US Census Bureau, and thank you Robert Cohen for persisting in your right fight. But I have one question, how can we get this news out to the general public? Robert, we need 60-Minutes and all the other news magazines to be fighting over who gets to air this journalistic bombshell of the century! There has got to be a way to get the story on major network news coverage. I am going to do my utmost to get the news out to my local papers and to contact these news organizations to get some stories flying in widely circulated arenas, where John Q. Public can get a gander at this stuff. When cancer talks people listen.

The Census Bureau got it wrong. Despite many safeguards
this massive error went unnoticed by all of them.

Please read their Letter of apology

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: sheldog
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: communist canada
Time: 2000-09-13 18:34:28
Comments: Eating dairy (like meat) should be a personal choice, and not one that is forced by scare tactics.

Presenting the consumer with the WHOLE truth about cow's milk and dairy is NOT telling them what to do. It is, simply put, giving them the level playing field they SHOULD be afforded by their government AND industry.

Would you call informing the public of polluted water a "scare tactic" or common sense?

If informing the public about tainted water IS simple common sense... then why is informing the public of polluted milk more than common sense?

Then, just like tobacco, another subsidized bad-news substance, the consumer can (and will) choose as they see fit.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Carolyn Parker
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-09-13 13:59:57
Comments: I am so happy that this was sent to me. I no longer eat dairy and i feel so much better. I am pretty sure that dairy was the biggest cause for me being over weight. I just look at ice cream, cheese, etc..... And get sick. Thank You for this wonderful web site!!

Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Palestine, IL
Time: 2000-09-13 00:07:44
Comments: LIES, LIES, all LIES! Whats the relationship between IGF-1 and bovine somatotrophin? Dosen't IGF-1 get digested in the human GI tract instead of absorbed as active IGF-1??????? IGF-1 does get digested! Animal science majors, text books, and professors of veterinary medicine cannot all be wrong!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Clint,

Either animal science majors, text books, and professors are wrong, or nursing mothers and pediatricians are wrong. You cannot have it both ways.

Does breastfeeding work? According to all that you learn in college, it cannot possibly work. In theory, lactoferrins and immunoglobulins must be destroyed in the nursing infant's tummy. There is of course, a flaw in your thinking and logic.

Breastfeeding does work! Children who are breastfed have higher IQ'S and greater immunological protection. These facts are not in dispute, having been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

Milk was designed to allow its components to survive digestion. Milk buffers gastric pH so that strong acids are diluted. Milk proteins such as casein protect the hormones from gastric degradation.

By homogenizing milk, mankind has improved upon nature's natural mechanism, and made milk an even more efficient and powerful hormonal delivery system. Tiny fat molecules resulting from homogenization (micronized liposomes) act as carriers for these protein hormones, and are small enough to bypass the gut intestinal wall where they are absorbed intact into the bloodstream.

BOTTOM LINE, Clint. Does brestfeeding work? If your answer is that it does, you must recognize that drinking cows milk is merely another form of breastfeeding. Those growth hormones survive digestion in your tummy too.

You and your professors need re-educating, and those textbooks will one day be re-written by somebody possessing greater wisdom than the present-day authors.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: R.Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-09-13 00:23:22
Comments: Dear Robert, As you prepared your manuscript for your book years ago and as we both worked to obtain copies of the Richard,Odaglia, Deslex Report from our respective governments, I remember you making a prediction about a dramatic increase in cancer forthcoming. The U.S. Census Bureau numbers now bear witness to your prediction.

Name: Ernest &amp; Debbie Hummel
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Auburn, Pa. 17922
Time: 2000-09-11 16:33:19
Comments: THANK YOU FOR THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING DIET, I LONG THOUGH MEAT AND DAIRY WAS NOT THE BEST THING TO EAT. IT IS TRUE YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT......

Name: Kristi Walker
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Winnipeg
Time: 2000-09-11 12:21:46
Comments: I heard of this website from my cousin, and I haven't drank milk for over a year. My personal alternative is rice milk, and I don't miss cows' milk at all!!

Name: Lauren Moody
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Florida
Time: 2000-09-11 11:59:19
Comments: I am so excited to learn that milk may be the cause of my asthma, By cutting out dairy foods I may be able to live my life without a dependence on prescription drugs!

Name: sandy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: north carolina
Time: 2000-09-11 09:00:59
Comments: I question your research. There must be some other factor working in concert with rbgh. The percentage increases from 1994 when rbgh was approved for use to 1995 was for one year after approval (the consumer had been exposed, ingesting for aproximately one year). If rgbh is is causing a plague how many cases of infant lymphomancic cancer have been reported? Babies and infants drink the most milk, and eat lots of dairy products. Suggest you utilize your time more wisely and jump on the nicotine or gun control band wagon. Hope any $'s you've made are going to research by ligitimate research facilities.

Dear Sandy,

In theory, NO SINGLE thing will ever be accepted by all people. Test something on six billion people? Perhaps that would satisfy you. Cigarette smoking causes lung cancer, but the real scientific support for that universally accepted conclusion has never been demonstrated. In this case, there is much more evidence and an existing mechanism for cancerous growth. IGF-I, a milk hormone, is the key.

Three years ago, I helped 60 MINUTES do a story (Isadore Roesmarin was the producer) in which aspartame/NutraSweet was implicated as the cause of increased brain cancers.

In that case, epidemiologist John Olney, MD had traced an increase of brain cancers (astrocytomas and glialblastomas) to the five year period after aspartame was approved. Olney found a three percent increase across the board (sex/age) in these brain cancers.

I now reject animal research and do not cite it, with one exception. When I find research performed and fraud committed, I go for the jugular.

During the aspartame experiments, FDA concluded that there were no biological effects on lab animals from aspartame ingestion. I and others found otherwise. The same exact brain cancers in rats (extremely rare) occurred in humans (also extremely rare) and FDA lied.

I used this example to expose the system, and the fact that animal research is also a deception because pharmaceutical companies lie and deceive.

Well...the same thing happened with the bovine growth hormones. One difference...instead of a three percent increase, we are seeing increases of over two thousand percent in some age groups.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

The source of data for the info on lymphatic cancers posted at http://www.notmilk.com/lymph.html is:

NOTE (1): Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Statistical Abstract of the United States, 1999, U.S. National Center for Health Statistics, Vital Statistics of the United States; Table No. 144.


Name: Cathryn
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NY
Time: 2000-09-10 16:34:45
Comments: Great site. Congratulations! This message needs to get out. good luck! cathryn.

Name: Deb Defibaugh
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-10 09:32:51
Comments: I indend to share this web site with others. My son has dairy allergies. He had always had extremely large tonsils & adnoids--so large they almost touched his uvula. Excessive throat clearing finally led me to try eliminating dairy. Surprise--his tonsils shrunk!!! I just wish I had documented it with a "before" and "after" picture.

Name: Samantha Sharp
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ohio
Time: 2000-09-08 23:22:18
Comments: i'm doing a project on the PETA people and i would like some different stuff on them i would appreciate it very much if you could send me things on them and about your site thanks again

Dear Samantha,

PETA is PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals). PETA is a large organization with people all over the planet. They have thousands of helpers who also donate time, effort and money to the cause.

http://www.peta.com/ They have LOTS of other appropriate sites

NOTMILK is NOTMILK (for the Ethical treatment of the NUMBER ONE ANIMAL, humans, who in turn, should ethically treat all other creatures). The Diary Education Board is a one man operation by someone who learned the WHOLE truth about cow's milk and dairy. NOTMILK operates on a shoestring, and Mr. Cohen pays for all the shoestrings.

As WEB site designer and WEBmaster I *donate* my time and efforts to his cause. Why? Because I am convinced that the powerful growth hormone IGF-1 (which is IDENTICAL between cows and humans) that I obtained through a lifetime of typical dairy consumption... CAUSED my surprise case of prostate cancer to GROW so fast that it was declared "terminal" (already spread) by the young age of 55. Call IGF-1 a "Plug and Play" hormone!

I am the FIRST among my hardy and long-lived Danish/German ancestors to acquire ANY form of cancer. I went looking for and FOUND the most likely reason(s) for its trigger. Visit http://www.dorway.com for over 500 WEB pages of good reasons WHY I am convinced that Equal in my coffee (aspartame) for fifteen years was the prime trigger for my cancer.

Shortly after that I went looking for what made it GROW so fast. When I learned about milk and IGF-1 I found the most likely reason why my cancer flourished in a cancer-resistant lineage. I felt duty-bound to help create the over 340 WEB page site http://www.notmilk.com and the 100+ page http://www.notmilk.com/hs to help spread the WHOLE truth on this tasty but sickening cancer fuel.

This is why I donate around 240 hours a month (for the past four years) to a very cost effective means to spread the WHOLE truth concerning aspartame, MSG and cow's milk and dairy... via Internet WEB sites. MSG is a kissing cousin "mind-blower" to aspartame that is in almost all processed foods. Aspartame was used in the placebos BEFORE it was even a legal sweetener. For more info on MSG (which has over 30 different "names") see http://www.truthinlabeling.org.

PETA and the Dairy Education Board have no connection other then linking to each other for obvious reasons... to promote the ethical treatment of all creatures... especially humans, maintaining Internet websites with free information, and caring for all critters (especially humans),

NOTMILK has no official affiliation with PETA... independently we share humanity.

NOTMILK has no affiliations with www.hungerSITE.com, either, except that we also want folks to have a decent meal. Unfortunately, the ONE product with the greatest abundance (over-production for a continually glutted BUT taxpayer supported market)... consists of USDA purchased milk and cheese that they GIVE away to the poor. It is lamentable that through our national "charity" we promote obesity, sickness and premature death to the already downtrodden via the free distribution of milk products.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Denise Reichert
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tallahassee, FL
Time: 2000-09-08 16:22:47
Comments: Firstly, I started to learn the facts about aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal, diet sodas) and the serious symptoms my husband had because of his 6-8 diet cokes a day: headache, blurred vision, muscle spasms, joint pain, insomnia, anxiety, heart palpatations, severe tinnitus, dizziness and weight gain. He thought he had MS and a brain tumor. After being off diet sodas for 3 months, his main complaint is tinnitus. Then I started surfing the net and happened on www.dorway.com and started to learn about our milk and cheese supply. I am letting all of my family and friends know about the food supply and I will hand out flyers at the grocery stores.

Name: Kimberly Miles
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Frederick, MD
Time: 2000-09-08 15:09:03
Comments: This is a tremendously helpful sight. Thank you so much, and thank you to my local organic/natural grocery store for helping me find you.

Name: Mary
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: South Carolina
Time: 2000-09-07 21:26:17
Comments: Hello,Mr.Cohen! The information you have shared concerning dairy products is very interesting.There is ,however,something I would like you to comment on.Could you please give your viewpoint on a couple of passages from the Bible? These are Deuteronomy 32:12-14 and Isaiah 7:14-15. Thank you very much!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I've addressed all biblical references to goat's milk in the following column:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/081698.html

The land of MILK AND HONEY was a land in which breast milk would flow for a people whose first born child was slain in Pharaoh's Egypt. It would be a land of freedom and sweetness.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jessica
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: TN
Time: 2000-09-07 17:14:50
Comments: I hope that this is some kind of joke, because milk is very good and important to the bodies growth.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Go back to bed, dear. It's all just a bad dream...a nightmare.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tracie
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 2000-09-07 17:29:36
Comments: For everyone hating on Robert Cohen please get a life. The least common thing in this world is common sense. I knew something was wrong with milk years ago becauese I got sick and it was not near the expiration date. I would occasionally drink it though and I constantly had mucus. It was so bad that it came out of my eyes. And my mother would always say, get out of your eyes. What she didn't realize was that I literally couldn't see, if I didn't get it out. I learned to listen to my body because it definitely talks. I used to have reproductive pains all the time and they would happen immediately after eating or drinking something with milk in it. Do your own research before getting mad with someone for doing their research. This world is corrupt and the love of money is what did it. God will deal with everyone who has mislead anyone from the truth. The devil is out and people don't even know it. He comes in all shapes and sizes. I can't stand those milk ads. I hated them before I found out about this site. Why would anyone drink another mammals milk? THINK ABOUT IT: WHY DON'T THEY TELL YOU THAT IT DOES A BODY GOOD ANYMORE? Common sense says that IT DOESN'T, THAT'S WHY! I learned the hard way because at the time, I believed anyone who I thought was smarter than me. I thought that they wouldn't say it was good for you if it wasn't. I learned the hard way. We need to look at the BIG PICTURE OF EVERYTHING! SO WHAT THE FDA SAYS MILK IS OK. Who's paying the FDA to say that. PROBABLY WHOEVER THEY'RE COVERING UP! We need to listen to our hearts more and not our minds AND DEFINITELY NOT OTHER PEOPLE'S MINDS. And if you don't know how to listen to your heart, ask GOD to open it up for you to see the BIG PICTURE OF EVERYTHING. That's why everything's a mess. We rely on everybody and everything for what we should be asking THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR.

Name: R.Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-09-07 13:31:33
Comments: To Michelle; Mr. Cohen did not make up the QUIZ. I have to take full responsibility for it. Cancer researchers know that removal of IGF-1 from the site stops the cancer growth and often sends it into remission. As pointed out, IGF-1 is the key factor. Remove external sources of IGF-1 (dairy) and your isolated, single cancer cells stand a good chance of remaining so.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Ron,

Actually, there are TWO milk quizzes. Yours:

http://members.tripod.com/ronjh/quiz2.htm

and Mine:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/090698.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: michelle
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-07 00:36:16
Comments: Your grasp of physiology leaves a lot to be desired. The question in the Milk Quiz, "What causes cancer cells to turn into a tumor" is ridiculously restrictive. Ever heard of RB? Tumor suppressor genes? Oncogenes? Proto-oncogenes? No one thing causes cancerous cells to propogate. This item alone causes the rest of your site to lose credibility. Sorry, just calling them as I see them.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Michelle,

The MILK QUIZ is a parody, not a scientific argument. The following is no joke:

Insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) has been called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of male prostate cancer (Chen, Science, vol. 279. January 23, 1998, p. 563), breast cancer (Hankinson, The Lancet, vol. 351. May 9, 1998, p. 1393), and lung cancer.(Yu, Journal of the National Cancer Institute, vol. 91, no. 2. January 20, 1999)

Regards,

THE NOTMILKMAN


Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: University of Illinois
Time: 2000-09-06 21:32:14
Comments: Yes it's me, the hell raising dairy farmer from southern Illinois. I would like to respond to the very graphic and horrific story about the "Dairy from Hell". As a dairy farmer, I have observed only one of herdsmen-the kind who would do anything for their herd and its well being. The graphic tale about the Dairy from Hell on this message board, if this is all true, shocks me. I have never heard of or seen this kind of neglect and abuse of a herd of cattle. Now, I am pro-milk all the way. I am a dairy farmer for God's sake, what do you expect?? But I am NOT for animal abuse and neglect. As any respectful dairy farmer would tell you, this type of herdsman exists only in minorities. Yes, I know even if one exists that it is too much. But I assure the American public that this is not a clear reflection of how farms are operated. Productive dairy farms are productive for only one reason: the cattle on that farm are healthy, expertly fed, and the manure mgt. holds a top priority. I do not agree with a whole lot on this cite, but I do agree that action is needed in cases like this. As a dairy farmer, I can see this type of neglence is bad for the cattle, the environment, and for the dairy industry's public appeal (which this site loves to attack). However, this is not the way a functioning dairy farm is operated. P.S.-IGF is not digested intact from milk; BST injections do not harm humans! BST is a substance made by the cows body. It is species specific in that BST only has a somatotrophic effect in cattle resulting in increased feed efficiency and thus an increase in milk production; Also as a dairy farmer, I know for a fact that EVERY SINGLE TANK FROM EVERY SINLGE FARM THAT GOES INTO EVERY SINGLE TRUCK IS TESTED FOR ANTIBIOTICS!!!!! NO EXCEPTIONS, EVER! Antibiotic treated cows are tagged with some type of leg band ( a velcro band red in color) or marking stick or something to signify to the milkers that the cow is a "DUMPER COW" meaning that the milk from this cow is not to be kept in the bulk tank of non antibiotic treated milk. IT IS TO BE DUMPED. And if milk from a treated cow enters the bulk tank through milker error and the farmer dosent catch it, the processing plant will following results from all the on farm truck tests. If the test is positive, the whole truck is dumped before it enters the holding tanks prior to processing, the one farmer that contaminated the tank is fined and is forced to purchase the value of the milk in the truck that was contaminated and dumped. Result-antibiotic free milk (this is fool proof people, really I have milked about a million times and have never contaminated milk with antibiotics), a healthy jug on milk on the shelves, and a NOTMILK MAN who stands corrected. DRINK YOUR MILK ALL YOU LITTLE KIDDIES! IT'S GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

Name: Angie
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Ill
Time: 2000-09-06 14:53:54
Comments: I found your website and was very interested in some of the contents in it. At the beginning of this year my 2 year old son was almost diagnosed with autism. After doing an incredible amount of research I found an article linking milk with autism and I immediately took my son off of all milk products. The first day he was off milk he said "I love you mommy" for the first time. He also hugged and kissed his little brother for the first time. I have continued my research on no milk diets and to find out more about this issue. That is how I discovered your website. There is a lot more information about milk there that I did not know. Could you possible send me a list of products that have milk in them that we would usually not think that had milk in them? I would appreciate any help you could give me. Thank you for bringing this concern to the world.

Congratulations on YOUR discovery!

Imagine how much needless suffering and worry could have been avoided... IF the media, medical system and others who consider cow's milk to be "natures almost perfect food", supposedly "necessary for proper nutrition", crucial to "good bones", etc. actually told the WHOLE story.

Mr. Cohen adds: "Robert Cade, MD (Univ. of Florida) identified a naturally occurring cow's milk hormone, casomorphin, as the cause of attention deficit disorder and autism. Congratulations! Now that you have learned the truth about milk, your child will not become the one-out-of five American kids on Ritalin."

Creating and maintaining a list of products containing milk or parts of it... would be impossible. The majority of processed foods seem to have something from milk in it. Anything that has something "caseinate" or whey... has dairy in it. You can find it in "non-dairy" creamers, many brands of canned tuna, ... anyplace where the manufactures needed a "binder" (casein is best used as an excellent furniture glue). There are whole lines of "health food" products that use whey, casein binders, and even colostrum .... the cows FIRST (and most potent) milk.

Just like the "flavor enhancer" called MSG (a mind blower) that has 30 different names (see http://www.truthinlabeling.org), and aspartame (the fake sweetener with 92 FDA acknowledged symptoms of poisoning... see http://www.dorway.com) ... components of milk can be found throughout the American food chain.

The end result is that one must read ALL labels, especially the fine print.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-06 14:01:17
Comments: well this is my question, is this true?BST which is present in consumed milk is not absorbed as such. It is digested like any other protein to single amino acids and oligopeptides by protease enzymes in the stomach and small intestines. Protein hormones such as BST have to be injected directly into the body to be biologically active (e.g. insulin injections taken by a diabetic). However, only HST is active in humans and BST has no biological effects even if injected directly into the body. Why wont you let anyone else see my question?at least before you cut it all up. thats ok i can ask the other people myself.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Russ,

Bovine somatotropin (bST) and bovine growth hormone (bGH) are both different names/abbreviations for the same protein hormone.

Protein hormones are usually destroyed or broken down by gastric activity in the stomach, or enzymatic activity in the human intestines (gut).

When the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone (rbGH/rbST) is injected into dairy cows, it works upon their pituitaries to promote the secretion of increased amounts of growth hormones, i.e., bGH and insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I).

While you are correct that bovine growth hormone and human growth hormone are different (both contain 191 amino acids, but the sequence differs by about 35%), IGF-I is identical in humans and cows.

Milk was designed (whether you believe in God, mother nature, or evolution) so that the lactoferrins, immunoglobulins, and hormones so contained would survive digestive processes and nurture the nursing infant of each mammalian species.

Milk first buffers gastric pH in the stomach. Meat from cows containing the same hormones would be broken down. Milk hormones are not degraded because of the buffering effect. A gastric pH of 1.8 (very acidic) is changed to a more basic 6.0 so that these proteins survive, intact.

Homogenized milk micronizes (makes smaller) fat molecules so that they become carrier vehicles for these protein growth hormones. These micronized liposomes survive gut breakdown, and are small enough to get through the gut wall and be absorbed directly into the bloodstream.

In October of 1999, the Journal of the American Dietetic Association published a study (Heaney, et. al) in which IGF-I levels in milk drinkers increased by a factor of ten percent!

IGF-I has been identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of prostate cancer (somebody tell Rudy Guiliani), lung cancer (somebody alert the cigarette industry), and breast cancer (tell that to the 1 out of 7 women who will be diagnosed with breast cancer).

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

WEBmaster comment:

The above referenced ADA test showed a 10% IGF-1 increase in participants who consumed only TWELVE OUNCES MORE milk per day (three 8 oz. glasses), than the control group (1 and a half glasses per day).

Most Americans consume MORE than this minimal quantity each day. That means MORE IGF-1.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Down Under
Time: 2000-09-06 09:40:52
Comments: I'm vegan, and extremely anti-dairy.... I also live about 200 metres from a large Dairy Farm and have travelled around the local area to see a few Dairy farms; yet Shari's description seems to describe a Dairy farm that is VERY extreme, and I wonder how such a farm could ever keep operating. When I finally turned to veganism I had a few medical problems disappear, especially mucous build up in my sinus passages and stomach cramps (these had me doubled over in pain constantly, many times wanting to kill myself but not being able to do so because of the pain). These symptoms disappeared a week after going vegan and dropping dairy products. I have no doubt that Dairy products are totally unneccessary (although I'm more concerned about our anthropocentric exploitation of Animals).

Name: russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-06 08:29:45
Comments: So Shari , first of all how does your neighbor keep his milk permits? Dosn't the state and federal inspectors ever shut him down ?and how could anyone stay in business if they treat their animals that bad? I find your statemend kind of hard to bealive. I milk a few cows myself and i can tell you from first hand experience that the cows are your first priority, you have to take the best care of the cows they are what makes your money.

Name: Jeanne
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-09-06 05:25:38
Comments: Can antibiotics be destroyed by pasteurization or sterilization?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeanne,

Sterilization works. One detonated thermonuclear device will generate 10 million degrees Fahrenheit. Should you be holding a glass of milk at that moment, you will ingest no antibiotics.

Consumers Union and the Wall Street Journal recently tested milk in the New York metropolitan area for the presence of antibiotic residues.

They independently found 52 different antibiotic residues in milk samples. Imagine that?

Dairy farmers will tell you that they are lying, and that every truckload of milk is tested. Who would you believe?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Shari
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Cheney, WA
Time: 2000-09-06 02:21:37
Comments: I have been living near a dairy, whose horrific processing practices have caused the surrounding neighbors to band together and fight this guy. At first glance, the dairy is dirty, unkept, and very smelly. Before anyone goes off on a tangent, I raise livestock and eat my own meat because of meat processing practices. I am very used to manure and other farm smells (I have a billy goat, and he stinks to high heaven at times) This odor is pure methane and decay. The odor emits from a holding pond which is a purple color, and the plot (300' x 300') which holds approximately 80 - 100 cows. The cows are forced to live, eat, and sleep in their own feces. I have lived here four years and have yet to see a stall cleaned. Needless to say, the cows teats are caked in manure. The people the dairy employs are either drunk or high the majority of the time. One is under investigation for meth lab/stolen property. At one point, my neighbor, the milker, got so drunk he left the cows hooked to the machines and went home and passed out. This man and others can't keep themselves clean, so you know the teats are not washed prior to milking. The owner of the dairy is no better. As we all know, it is necessary to freshen a cow yearly. If done properly, the cow can provide milk for 20 years. However, I've yet to see a calf on the property. The owner actually ripped a calf from the womb because the purchaser of the dairy calves wanted two. Again, I have never seen a calf, male or female, on the property. On with the tale: this spring and summer, several cows slipped on concrete covered in manure and split their pelvis'. One cow was drug out to the side of a county road and left without food and water for five days. Her milk bag filled to an ungodly size. She never moved. The neighbors and other travelers along our road stopped to inquire and complain. It wasn't until Spokane County Animal Control was called and they contacted the dairy by phone three days later. The cow disappeared. Not three weeks later and another cow in the same condition was left again, but had some hay and water. Again, this poor creature was left at the roadside (now remember Kids are riding the school bus and going by this dairy and assuming this is what a dairy should be) At the same time this live cow is suffering next to the road, a dead cow, bloated all four legs sticking straight up is left by the road also. So now the flies have started, thick as thieves. So we (the neighbors and I) start calling. We went through Washington State Department of Ecology, Water Protection, the USDA, and the health department. No one wants to touch this guy. He lives right on the edge of the law and he is such a jerk he frightens the neighbors. So the neighbor is out walking her dogs and what does she come across but a literal bone yard, but not just bones but whole cows lying there rotting. She comes home in a tizzy, and off we go with the camera crossing the field to take pictures. (Charlie's Angels - Watch out) The cow that laid by the road had been drug ALIVE to die in this back field, while I am no forensic scientist, the cow was lying on her belly, hollowed out by maggots. (the coyotes and cougars, which we have in abundance, imagine that, had not tore this creature to bits) Next to her is another cow, with the hide still on, hollowed out. These cows were laying among other carcasses. So off we go to the Spokane County Health Department and we get a hold of Mr. Joe Pallelo. Now Mr. Pallelo is a piece of work, he calls and tells the dairy owner that he needs to deal with the dead cows (that was over four weeks ago) He calls the dairy everytime we call him and says, "Shucky darn, but the guy won't let me on the property and he says their not his" Well, we did get his dander up when we called the vet. So far, the cows still lay there and rot. Now, the cows in the field across from the dairy are starting to die (these are meat cattle on a huge pasture) And we watched them haul another dead cow into the field today. I noticed a man's response to your efforts and how apalled he is at the whole idea and cows are mindless creatures living in 5-star conditions. Sir, I beg to differ. These cattle know their miserable, that is why the eat their own crud and females try to have sex with each other. These animals are fed, but they are sick and tired (literally). I have goats, and when one goat had her babies taken (they died in the womb) she sulked and wandered looking for these babies. When I take one goat to the vet, the others know she's gone and pitch a fit, running up and down the fence line. One beef I had, Sarah, knew the moment she saw me she was going to get a brushing (with a horse comb) and ran from the back of the pasture, leaning all 900 lbs on me while I combed her. I still did not have a problem cooking a roast that winter. The methods by which this dairy and many others is inhumane and I beg society to contemplate our reasonings of mistreating animals and the disposability of livestock. Worse yet, these unkept barns are a host of trouble waiting to happen. If one thinks Anthrax is just a band, remember this type of treatment will eventually leak into the surrounding community and children. This man cannot sell his milk locally. He must haul it to Moses Lake, to the Safeway processor there (160 miles away). (I contacted Safeway, with no response) I know hormones, antibiotics, and pus come out of those poor cow udders. Believe me when I say, I enjoy milk and milk products, but I really don't want to be forced to milk a cow twice a day because we can not govern and/or regulate dairy practices. Any suggestions on who can stop this 'beast' from harming any other defenseless animals.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Shari,

As a result of your letter, I have been in close contact with the Washington State department of Agriculture. The head of the dairy division is a veterinarian, Candace Jacobs. As a result of my investigation, I have identified the dairy farm. Dr. Jacobs is taking this complaint very seriously, and will send inspectors to that farm.

I also spoke to your health department. I was told that what happens on that farm is not in his jurisdiction. I informed him that in my opinion, it was. Rotting bodies of downer cows may very well contain PRIONS, the particles that cause the human equivalent of Mad Cow Disease. Dr. Jacobs agrees that the health department should be involved.

I will keep you and all readers of my newsletter up to date.

To subscribe to the notmilk letter, send a blank EMAIL to:

notmilk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



UPDATE

Situation has been handled. Here is Mr. Cohen's update:

Early this week, a disturbing letter was posted to the NOTMILK Guest Book. The author, Shari from Spokane, Washington, described the most horrible of conditions on a local dairy farm. As a result of that letter, Robert Cohen spoke with the Spokane Health Department and the State Department of Agriculture.

Cohen learned that the farm in question had a very poor history of mistreating animals and of complaints.

Candace Jacobs of the State Department of Agriculture took an immediate "hands-on" approach and sent inspectors to the farm. She reported that the conditions described in that letter no longer exist.

The last cow death on that farm occurred in early July. Inspectors found the dairy cows to be free of disease and the stalls to be clean.

The farmer in question is milking 400 cows and has made substantial improvements to his operation insuring the comfort and safety of his animals.

Robert Cohen
NOTMILK.com


Name: Denae Cindy Sherri
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Hazleton, Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-09-05 21:44:45
Comments: You need to get a life bud. Milk is the best beverage in the universe. what nutrients can you get out of "soy milk". How can you put down the hardest working people in the nation, the dairy farmer? If you would have drank milk while you were growing up you would have amounted to much more than the "NOTMILK MAN FREAK." Have fun dying at a young age from the crippling affect of osteoporosis.

Name: Brent Biernbaum
Website: <
Referred by: AngelFire
From: Palestine IL (We have cows so it might be Hell to you guys)
Time: 2000-09-04 22:48:33
Comments: I'm a normal person (I consume dairy products without fearin some magical diesease might manifest in my body and bring me to my death) and i have found your site offense to the intelligence of sane people. Anyone with the slightest hint of common sense can see that milk isnt the devil. If you would like a cause you should invest your time on the education of the dangers of smoking, not trying to tell the elderly that they can't have their cottage cheese at lunch because it might send them to an early grave. Its worthless cause like this that make me say that you people are all a bunch of ignorant low life time wasting fools. And its crap like this, and people like you that my hard-earned tax dollars go to. So next time your in the grocery store buying a milk subsitute and using your food stamps because your to lazy to get a real job, think about me because it's me and people like me that are supporting you and your brain washed families.

Name: hi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-04 10:06:10
Comments: Well how can I start. First off, I drink milk or some kind of milk product on a daily basis. You say that it can lead to heart disease. And over 50% of americans are overweight right? You must have forgotten that a majority of those people don't exercise AT ALL! I DO exercise daily. I try to maintain a balanced diet. THats how you have a healthy heart. I wouldn't be suprised if these peta morons never heard of exercise before.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nameless,

During the Korean war, 18-20 year old American soldiers who died in battle (in supposedly perfect physical condition) were autopsied and found to have athersclerosis--butter-like placques in their arteries.

It is now accepted by every scientific agency that animal fats and cholesterol do not make for a healthy heart.

I imagine that hearts from plant-eating PETAites are a lot pinker and healthier than the cholesterol-clogged hearts of cheese and meat eaters.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ryan A Fraley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Chester, IL
Time: 2000-09-03 02:06:04
Comments: I would have to say two things in my message. One is thank you for having the guts to stand against Monsanto. The second thing is that I am not really thanking you at all, because you all could use a more moderate approach and better HTML (sic) and get your point across much better! Don't shoot the messenger, or for that matter the dairy farms that could convert to producing soy milk and soy protein (which I dig, BTW) because these people are merely misinformed. If anyone is being manipulative here it is the FDA, Monsanto, and the National Dairy Council. I hate to see it when you lower themselves just a little toward their low level.

Heck, Jack Lalanne has turned even more people away from milk by being an 85-year old Hercules who is also a lacto-veg. The best solution for your problem is to quit acting like you consume the very product you hate, since you have taught us that milk can cause bad behavior too!

See, I know milk can alter behavior too, I am not expecting you to act like Jesus, I am just hoping you would take my suggestions in to consideration and not come up with some snide remark in response. Thank you for your time.


Name: Nan Taska
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Somewhere
Time: 2000-09-02 23:55:03
Comments: This is to Clint McCoy, the owner of the 300 Holstein cows. Just wondering, do you use Posilac (Rbgh) on your cows? You are right cows around since the 1620 time, I take that back it was 2 more years, then the Pilgrims got their first cows, but at that time, it took alot of milk to produce that butter that they needed Very little of it, they got. No fat Pilgrims hanging around, but in this age I see alot of them today, you guessed it, I live in Pilgrim Country. After reading Mr Cohen's web site, it all made sense, we drink the body fluids of a animal, not intended for us after the jump start. the Mother Cow weans the calf off her milk, as do humans. Milk is only for a jump start of the baby, after that then we go to other things. Did you ever wonder why so much cancer, and where is it coming from. The air and water and all else, then add the IGF-1 in the milk, that is a growth factor, it SAYS GROW, as all of us carry some sort of cancer. As you can see I am what you call one of them, but it sure makes sense to me. I consumed the product, loved the milk and ice cream, now a tainted product to tell the small cancers to grow in me. Thankyou Monsanto for the Rbgh. I also tell them that every month. Open your mind, read what is said about the MILK, this is a fast track world, all new things are learned. Maybe time for a change in what we consume. These people that speak to us of the MILK do this to inform the consumer. Last thing, got a answer from a friend on the Milk issue, he said "Like apple pie been around for years, so has milk". Nothing more I can say, just read what Mr Cohen has to say, and I know you have a big investment in your cows, but read.

Name: Rich Platz
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Eugene Oregon
Time: 2000-09-02 11:27:57
Comments: Well, its the same old story as I see it. the Black Wizzards of the Oil Industry are in cahoots with the White Coat Wizzards of the Milk and Medical Indusry! Basically they maintain: Don't let anything get in the way of our profit margin, at any cost! "Stop these truth statements coming out, or we'll go out of business", is what their stand is - In my opinion! Rich Platz, jazzdrummer

Name: Carolyn
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Michigan
Time: 2000-09-02 09:08:49
Comments: Great to find good infomation and such interesting comments. You can certainly tell who is making lots of money from dairy products! Look around and you can also easily see who is suffering because they believed the marketing hype put out by these people. Americans have been sold a sad "bill of goods" about dairy foods, and now those sad people defend it as though it came straight from God! Sorry folks but you have been fooled again by people who laugh all the way to the bank!!!!

Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-02 01:12:39
Comments: Brace yourselves all you "non-milk drinking cause it hurts God's little moo-moo's". Are you ready for this?? I am a 21 year old dairy farmer and owner of 300 Holstein cattle. I can all hear you calling me "The Devil". Really, people, lets be honest. Don't you think that this "MILK IS POISION" band wagon you are all on is a massive waste of time and money? Who are you trying to kid anyway? The dairy industry has been around for a lot longer than a bunch of flag burning hippies like yourselves. You are not going to change America's taste buds or their minds. The fact of the matter is that people like to consume dairy products. They are not going to cahnge their minds. EVER! And you people always say "If we can get just one perosn to quit dairy, then we have made a difference." BUT IT DOSENT MAKE A DIFFERENCE! NOT ONE BIT!!! Milk opponents always place animal cruelty and mistreatment and the top of their lists of reasons for being anti-dairy. Well, let me ask you something. As you are walking across the many dairy herd free stall barns I am sure you visit daily, have you ever heard a cow say "I hate living in this barn where I get high quality feed, plenty of water, a roof over my head, and my manure cleaned up after me. I wish I was out living like a cow was intended to live-wild and in the forest"? And for all your troubles-your picketts, your billboards, and your web pages-have you ever heard one of those cows say "Thank You"? NO! Picking up my sarcasm? I'm laying it on pretty thick. The bottom line is this: you all are sailing on the ship USS Lost Cause and your captain is steering you to a place called "Fantasy Island". The dairy industry is the most profitable food animal industry for food animal producers. They are not going to stop milking their cows because you people tell them to. And America is not going to stop consuming dairy products due to propaganda. Your cause is nothing more than a greasy spot on the highway of the American dairy industry. AND THAT, my lactose ignorant friends, IS TRUE.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cowboy,

You wrote:

"...have you ever heard a cow say 'I hate living in this barn where I get high quality feed, plenty of water, a roof over my head, and my manure cleaned up after me."

Substitute the word "negro" for cow, and you sound like the owner of an 1860 Alabama cotton plantation.

You also wrote:

"Your cause is nothing more than a greasy spot on the highway of the American dairy industry."

May I use that quote?

The 170 billion pounds of milk your industry produces in the year 2000, will contain 10.5 trillion milligrams of greasy cholesterol. That's one slippery highway, and a roadway to heart disease. Divide that by 270 million Americans, and we find the average American, thanks to dairy products, consuming 38,875 mg of cholesterol this year. The daily intake of cholesterol is 106 mg. There are 2 mg of cholesterol in a small piece of Armour bacon.

Thanks to your product, the average American consumes from milk and dairy products the same cholesterol in 53 slices of bacon, every day of his or her life. By age 52, that equals the same cholesterol in one million slices of bacon. Care to HAZARD a guess as to what is America's number one killer?

Thanks for your letter.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Ummm... a "dairy farmer" sending Email from "First Robinson Savings Bank" in Robinson, IL. Tending to rows of green stuff instead of milking the cows?

Hey... if you ARE a dairy farmer you MUST know that within the past three years you had RECORD high prices ($17 and change per hundred weight) and that at the end of last year prices had fallen BELOW PARITY ($9.73) ... for the first time ever. Considering that prices are still very low, around eleven bucks per 100 pounds, it would seem that oversupply (thanks to genetic engineering and factory farms) and less demand as a result of the NOTMILK campaign... constitute a whole lot more than a "grease spot". :-)

We are making NO difference? The whole truth IS getting out... and those silly moustaches will turn to sad faces for all connected with the dairy industry.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Janet St. Pierre
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Rochester, New York
Time: 2000-09-01 14:00:30
Comments: I heard Mr. Cohen speak in Pittsford, NY on August 26, 2000. I told a co-worker about his talk. He has been struggling with diabetes and hasn't felt well for some time. I asked him if he would cut out dairy products for a few weeks. He loved his milk, so I didn't think he would do it. Well, today (4 days later) he showed me numbers on his calendar, and I didn't know what they were. He said they were his daily readings. Well, the number has been decreasing dramatically, and he said he owed it all to me!! Wow, did I feel good that I could help someone.

Name: Robert Edmands
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Boulder, CO
Time: 2000-09-01 06:40:11
Comments: Humans have lived in close association with cows for some 9,000 years. They are not apt to give it up next week!! The reason certain ethnic groups- Africans, some Asians, Native Australians, have such high levels of lactose intolerance is that they never domesticated this animal or did so only recently. This does not make the cow Satan's cousin! Domestic animals made our civilization what it is today- Small pox, tuberculosis, The flu- are all diseases generated by association with domestic animals. The plus side is we would probably still be living in groups of 20 people using only stone tools without them. You learn to take the good with the bad.

Name: Rick Servatius
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: North Carolina
Time: 2000-09-01 00:06:08
Comments: Come on, how can such a successful organization like the American Dairy Association be telling us untruths? It is a huge industry that certainly knows what's good for us, the American public. We drink lot's of milk, it's good for you, it's white, just like our bones. When I was in Junior High School, girls were not very developed: Now thanks to milk, and meat, my boys in JHS are far happier!! No, I'm just being facetious. Today, some scientists are reporting that maybe CO2 isn't the major cause of ozone depletion and/or global warming: It might be Methane!!! One of the deleterious effects brought on by dairy cows. Maybe the ADA will take a few well-deserved hits here, eh?

Name: Marcia
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-08-30 17:25:31
Comments: I missed the "Crossfire" segment referred to... is there a transcript available ? Thank you. p.s. keep up the good work !

Name: Barry Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Netherlands
Time: 2000-08-30 10:40:55
Comments: Hi, Great site but how about a list of all products which are milk based. I quit dairy products a couple of years ago - or so I thought until I found out sodium casinate was a milk product. I love to know if there's anything else I am (was) still eating which is milk based.

Name: Paul Pursehouse
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: San Diego
Time: 2000-08-29 21:11:50
Comments: I watched crossfire and was favorably Impressed by your speaker..

We must give credit where credit is due. PETA, for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is not a part of Mr. Cohen's endeavors. By virtue of the fact that humans are animals, and we support the Ethical Treatment of humans... we just happen to agree with PETA on many points.

However, PETA, http://www.peta-online.org and their affiliate site, http://www.milksucks.com are the folks who did the Guiliani advertisement, the beer is safer than milk ad, and I suspect they will be doing more to help ALL animals (humans included).

So visit PETA and give them your support.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Lauren Hockenberry
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-08-29 20:01:13
Comments: I am a vegetarian and agree with everything Ingrid Newkirk said. There is no reason for people to eat meat. I am only 14 years old so there isn't much I can do myself to spread the word that it isn't necessary to eat meat. I talk to my friends about vegetarianism and try to change their minds about eating meat. I was a milk drinker until I saw a discussion on Crossfire. That is where I got this website. I may not be saving every cow or pig but I feel that I am definately cutting down on the killing of the animal population. Even a rat deserves to live. God made his creatures so that they would have long, healthy, happy lives. Please e-mail me if you agree with me. Thank you.

Name: R.Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-08-29 18:39:16
Comments: Remember way back when CARNATION MILK used to advertise "Milk from contented cows?" How many years has it been since they had to admit that the slogan wasn't true and had to quit using it? Must be 20 years at least. Here's hoping Mayor Rudy recovers and learns what made his prostate cancerous.

Name: Rich Enciso
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Leona Valley, CA
Time: 2000-08-29 14:28:22
Comments: I'm tired of people thinking that Bovine Slime is the perfect food. Thanks for the great info.

Name: Pastor Bob East
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Rogersville,TN
Time: 2000-08-28 20:28:44
Comments: It is good to see that some are willing to stand up to big, big business. I taught school for a good many years and the Dairy Association furnished us with all of the "free" stuff we could use in classroom activities. We thought how generous of them! How sad that those of us as teachers took so little time to evaluate the "free" generosity. I was a great user of diary products and I fell victim to a degenerative disease by the name of MS (Multiple Sclerosis).I would not blame anyone thing for what happened in my experience but I feel certain that many, if not all, of the major illnesses of today are enhanced by the use of large amounts of animal products. By getting my head on straight and of course God's Grace I was able to turn things around and for the past nearly forty years have been sharing with others that there is a better way. Milk is great food!!!!....For baby calves!!!!! Keep up the good work.

Name: Josh
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Milk Town
Time: 2000-08-28 16:29:53
Comments: You people make me laugh! I was reading your site while drinking a big cup of cow's milk. After reading your site, I just want to drink more milk, cheese, and other stuff your are complaining about. People have been eating these kinds of food for decades. Why do you have any right to tell me what I can/can't eat/drink???

Hi there... oh Email-less and unaccountable one from Virginia.

We are NOT trying to tell YOU what to eat. We simply inform consumers of what is IN what they are eating... and what it can do to them.

You can do whatever you please with yourself... just as long as it does NOT impact negatively on OTHERS. However, trying to mislead others DOES cause harm. That makes you an unwelcome "guest".

As for your "Drink Milk, It's good for you!" comment. Milk and dairy are good for the Fluid Milk Processors, Monsanto, USDA, FDA, doctors, hospitals, drug companies, morticians... and for thinning out the ranks of Social Security recipients... and many who never make it that far thanks to heart disease, cancer, etc. There is NO requirement or reasonable necessity for cow's milk or dairy in the human diet. Period.

Don't bother posting again... unless you have the courage to post your true working Email address.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Louis Liptak Engelhart
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Waterloo IA
Time: 2000-08-27 17:33:16
Comments: You need to add the Mike Segel show to your list of "How did you find us?"

Name: Paddy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 2000-08-27 14:37:01
Comments: Try to understand that milk is not bad for you! you say that milk contains bacteria and other chemicals. well let me remind you that EVERYTHING on this planet of ours contains it! if it wasnt for these chemicals then we would not exist at all. bacteria isnt all bad either. there are many forms of it in our bodies for example that keep us alive. also im curious to see why you seem to think that meathane from cows causes global warming because the number of cows on this planet is very small compared to the number of cars on the road or the many factories that emit much worse chemicals at a larger volume. also what does the FDA have to gain from hiding information about milk. why would they really risk millions of peoples lives by keeping their mouths shut. i would also like to kno how milk actually causes osteoperosis instaed of preventing it. thanks and please in the future ask people before you use their photos in your ads.

Sigh. You either didn't read and/or understand very much of the 340 pages of information notmilk.com.

Common sense should make you admit that if ALL, of the over 43,000 mammals on this planet (including humans) WEAN their young from ALL milk, when appropriate... and that consuming ANY milk after being weaned is NOT appropriate. Especially the milk of an alien species! Cow blood is alien to yours, her digestive system is alien to yours... etc. So... common sense should prevail that her MILK is alien to YOUR systems requirements (as it is to every human system).

What DO you consider GOOD for you?

  • The 59 hormones?
  • The herbicides, pesticides, PCB's, dioxins (see http://www.junkscience.com for more)?
  • The protein, 80% of which is casein, a powerful HISTAMINE (mucus maker) best used as a furniture glue?
  • The calcium, which, without an EQUAL amount of magnesium (as exists in the plants from which the COW gets HER calcium) cannot be absorbed?
  • The scores of allergens?
  • The feces... from whence come most of the millions of live bacteria per liter?

    Of the 59 hormones... which is your favorite? Estrogen, Progesterone, Testosterone, or perhaps it is the IGF-1... best thought of as a cancer "fuel cell"... identical between cows and humans... it is a "plug and play" hormone!

    What is your favorite antibiotic? New York milk tested for traces of 52 different kinds.

    Or perhaps it is all the EXTRA tasty goodies one might get from the THREE 8 oz. glasses of milk they recommend per day: up to 14.2 million live bacteria and up to 531 MILLION somatic (laymen call these "PUS") cells. Or perhaps your arteries have not clogged fast enough... and you NEED the cholesterol equivalent of 53 slices of bacon per suggested daily intake... three glasses... which WILL get the job done faster.

    Or... maybe you are not overweight to the point of being considered obese. Cheer up... 54% of Americans are already THERE... and with 50% of calories (whole milk) coming from all those tasty toxin-loaded fats (34% for "2% milkfat" milk) you, too, can join the majority.

    Do yourself a huge favor, Paddy, and read with an open mind, check out our resources and references... and then dump the crap (literally).

    Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Stanley Partyka
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sumter,SC 29150
Time: 2000-08-26 23:15:55
Comments: Can you inform me about using whey protein? Is it unhealthy being produced from milk? Thank you.

Proteins in WHEY (lactalbumin, bovine serum albumin) have been
identified as triggers for insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus
(TYPE I) and adult onset diabetes (TYPE II).

Enuf said?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Cow/s milk and dairy are unfit for human consumption. Period!

There are NO valid health or human welfare reasons to consume cow's milk or dairy. That includes "pieces and parts" of it that exist in thousands of products... even "dairy free" stuff.

Over 43,000 mammals wean their young from mother's milk WHEN appropriate, including humans. Humans are the only ones that partake of milk AFTER that time... and THE wonder of wonders is that it is milk from an alien species.

Astounding as it may seem, the powerful GROWTH hormone called "insulin-like growth factor ONE" (IGF-1) is IDENTICAL between cows and humans... and it DOES make things grow. My prostate cancer, which had already spread by the young age of 55 (thanks to many years of over-indulgence in milk and dairy)... now grows over FOUR TIMES MORE SLOWLY now that I am over two years with NO diary in my diet.

Yes... I DO miss the tasty aspects of milk, ice cream, cheeses, etc.... but logic tells me this learned trait is NOT A TASTE TO DIE FOR!

Then, of course, there are the OTHER 58 hormones, allergens, toxins, blood, pus, feces, fats, cholesterol, viruses... and, basically, concentrated anything the cow ate!

Quick turnoff: The FDA allows 20 MILLION live bacteria and 750 MILLION somatic (laymen call them "PUS") cells per LITER, before it is kept off the market. Cholesterol? The "recommended" three glasses a day provide the cholesterol equivalent of 53 slices of bacon. Got Heart Disease? Whole milk is 87% water... and that 3.25% "milkfat" is actually around 50% of the calories in milk from toxin-loaded FATS. Got Obesity? Doing ones self a favor by buying "2%"? Not really... one still gets 34% of calories from fats.

GOT MILK? Then one IS helping "thin the herd" while boosting the profits of manufacturers who USE milk/milk byproducts, medical systems who treat the diseases, drug companies that offer powerful and expensive drugs... and, best of all, milk consumers are helping to keep the Social Security system solvent by dying off sooner than expected. (I suspect that my surprise cancer, making me the FIRST among my long-lived Danish/German ancestors to acquire any form of cancer, has nicked MY lifespan by from 15 to 30 years or MORE. That saves the SS system a BUNDLE!)

I donate around 240 hours a month to informing folks about aspartame (dorway.com), MSG (truthinlabeling.org), MILK/Dairy (notmilk.com), FDA, Monsanto and the unnecessary Frankenstein shot (http://www.notmilk.com/hs) now given to over half of America's dairy cows to produce MORE milk for a GLUTTED market... so that others have a better chance of NOT ending up like me, or worse, dead.

Cancer has trashed half of my married life and shortened it by a considerable number of years. I deserved better from my government... and so do you!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: jack semon
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: mich
Time: 2000-08-26 08:38:03
Comments: just seen your add on tv. what a wierd group you are. animal protection, if you dogooders would get away from the tv set and get out into the real world and see wildlife as it really is you would think different, you can stick to eating your veggies, grass, weeds or whatever turns you on, ill eat my meat, also wild meat, also i will use my fur from trapping, jack

Name: Maralyn Nash
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Britain
Time: 2000-08-26 06:50:03
Comments: 25 aug 2000. In May as a way of losing weight I decided to cut out all products connected with the cow. Not only have I lost 21 lbs but two very interesting events occurred. Prior to my diet I had been diagnosed with a large (8cm) Fibroid. It had to be checked to see if it was still growing. To my surprise within 10 week on this diet it had reduced. Co-incidence? Who knows. Also, pre-period breast pain has not just reduced but disappeared. I'll stick to no dairy from now on.

Name: R. Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-08-25 23:48:00
Comments: To Steve on class actions: Mayor Rudy is likely ready to give it some thought about now.

Name: steve markowitz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle
Time: 2000-08-25 16:22:04
Comments: Great work!! I noticed some of your billboard campaigns. I'm glad someone is finally speaking the truth. The Wisconsin Milkboard spokeswoman said that PETA was “misleading the public for their own gain”. Huh!!! What does PETA have to gain! They're not a billion dollar industry like the dairy industry, which has EVERYTHING to gain from the continued ignorance of the masses. Sadly, they have all the money they could possibly need to perpetuate their myths... and the support of our media and government to boot! We're up against a venerable foe! But somehow I think our truth is coming to light... and there will be a lot of angry women out there who find out too late that they could have avoided bone loss by NOT drinking milk!! Anybody interested in a class action lawsuit??

Name: Michelle
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Rhode Island
Time: 2000-08-25 15:26:06
Comments: This is an excellent site. Keep up the great work! I can't believe that anyone drinks milk - it's so terrible in so many ways.

Name: Joe Covington
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: IL
Time: 2000-08-24 09:46:43
Comments: Looks like I will be coming back when I have enough time to go through it all. Thanks

Name: Pierre Robitaille
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sherbrooke, Qc, Canada
Time: 2000-08-23 13:06:27
Comments: Hi, I have diabetes and you can be sure I will try to eliminate dairy products if it can help me! Before visiting this page, I have never heard that milk could be harmfull in any way, but you have really convinced me! I will give you some feedback if my health is begining to improve in the next months.

Name: Cindy
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Washington
Time: 2000-08-18 14:29:12
Comments: Great website! I recently started Marilu Henner's Total Health Makeover and was shocked to learn about dairy products. I've since given up all dairy, all meat except fish, sugar and caffiene and am drastically cutting out chemicals by not eating processed or pre-packaged foods. This site has reinforced my new commitment to a healthy diet. I'll definitely recommend this site to my friends. Thanks, Cindy

Name: Bev
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Orlando FL
Time: 2000-08-16 02:30:08
Comments: I was interested in this site because my 2-year old grandson was diagnosed with mild autism a few months ago. At the age of 2 1/2 he had no language, little eye contact, withdrawn, severe temper tantrums, sleep disturbances, and hand-flapping. My daughter and I did our research and stumbled upon the theory that dairy can play a huge role in this developmental problem. He has been on a dairy-free diet for 3 months. The changes in his personality and behavior are amazing. He has developed great eye contact, plays with other kids, interacts with the family, sleeps through the night, tantrums are reduced to a few normal 2-year old fits. And, best of all, with the help of a wonderful speech therapist, he is learning language and is beginning to communicate with us. He is such a happy, funny little guy. We are grateful that we learned of the detrimental affects dairy can have. Being dairy free has given my beautiful grandson a chance for a normal life. I hope my story will encourge others dealing with similar problems to take the leap to dairy freedom.

Name: cheri
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: ca
Time: 2000-08-16 01:25:24
Comments: I always knew John Robbins was a genius. This website helps to prove my theory. Milk does not always do a body good!!

Name: Gerry Bush
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: Mesa, AZ
Time: 2000-08-16 00:31:17
Comments: Every time I drink milk from cows that have been treated with the growth hormone, I get a terrible reaction. Within 15 minutes of ingestion, I begin to shiver with horrible chills. There is NO WAY that I can get warm (and I live in AZ)! Next I get very sleepy and sleep for 3-4 hours. When I awake I feel as though I have been drugged and am in a semi-stupor for the next 24 hours. I am unable to function. It took me some time to trace it to milk with the hormone, but that is definitely the source of my problem. The only milk I am able to drink safely is from Trader Joe's where the dairy farmers sign a contract that they will not use the hormone. Other so-called organic milks that come from large dairy cooperatives often contain hormones. This I found out the hard way. I stay away from both Horizon and Organic Valley brands as they are not always hormone free, in spite of their claims.

Name: Beth
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: US
Time: 2000-08-15 15:11:11
Comments: I'm a 14 year old vegetarian, and this page changed my outlook on milk. Cows don't drink our milk, so why do most humans drink theirs? Also, there is a lot of stereotyping about how kittens love milk. I own a kitten and was informed by a vet that milk is bad for kittens and it was better for them to drink water. After reading this page I learned how milk is even worse for my kitten. Thanks for informing me of the dangers of milk. I'm going to email this to all my friends.

Name: Sigmund Elber
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Georgia
Time: 2000-08-15 14:59:18
Comments: The info on you site is very interesting and I plan to look at the site more

Name: Darlene
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 2000-08-15 14:10:27
Comments: I would like to find out what is actually IN milk. You mention about "pus" . What the heck is that about? After visiting this website I have thrown away my milk and will never drink that garbage again. I will continue to get calcium from foods an supplements. I have also emailed this site to everyone I know. Keep up the good work :-)

Name: Andy Godsberg
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York City
Time: 2000-08-15 13:59:29
Comments: Great Site! Cows' milk is for calves.

Name: Chris
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Boston, M.A.
Time: 2000-08-15 13:53:17
Comments: Please, let's not forget that a lot of this "Scientific Data" doesn't talk about heredity. I think people go overboard with their "passions". Talk about being brain-washed - the not milk people in my eyes are the ones who are brain-washed. Milk may not be good for you or for a lot of other people in this world, but it is good for a lot of us, and I for one am not going to stop drinking milk. People have different allergies - just because I'm allergic to Strawberries, as are a lot of people, does that mean that they are bad for all of us?

Name: alan robichaud
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From:
Time: 2000-08-15 13:26:24
Comments: Several years ago I began to be unable to digest normal food. While seeking the answer I found SKIM MILK was the reason. Cream and whole milk pose much less problems. I would like to know why SKIM and not WHOLE milk would cause this severe reaction. I was 21 years old I am now 26 and still having moderate problems. Doctors shake their heads and write scripts for PREVICID.

Name: Susan
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Los Angeles, California
Time: 2000-08-15 13:15:11
Comments: I have been a non-dairy activist for the last 2 years. First of all, I lost around 10 pounds..just from quitting eating dairy. This site is wonderful and informative. Keep up the good work!!

Name: chris
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-08-15 09:57:05
Comments: I think your out of your mind!!!!

Name: Karla
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Orlando, FL
Time: 2000-08-15 09:08:58
Comments: This is a wonderfully educational site! I have a daughter with chronic asthma and we're going to give it a try!

Name: Pamela B
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: S. Salem, NY
Time: 2000-08-15 09:17:38
Comments: I am a 34 year old mother of 2 girls, ages 5 and 3. After having several miscarriages, I went on a macro-biotic diet (no sugar, dairy, caffeine, alcohol and 50 various vitamins a day, for 6 months). Three days off the diet, I was pregnant with my older daughter. Ever since I got pregnant with the her, I have been lactose intolerant. Is this because of the diet, or was the problem always there and I just didn't recognize it before the diet?

Name: Diane Atkinson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-08-14 18:17:25
Comments: My daughter spent her first birthday as well as most of the spring in the hospital with asthma/dble pneumonia. 5 months later an allergy test revealed milk, casein and whey were the problem. As soon as I removed these ingredients from her diet she quickly improved and became able to once again enjoy milk, cheese ice cream, cookies you name it. Until recentlly I thought this was great she can eat theese foods as she had been for the past 10 yrs. Recently I was watching a local televison program near Islip Long Island and my eyes were really opened when I heard how milk was now made. I'm very fortunate to have watched this program because now I'm going to try little by little to eliminate milk and milk by products from our diets. I can't say that I"m excited because we are a milk family but what will be exciting is to see how we will feel when we do. Thanks.. Diane Atkinosn...

Name: Gary Manigian
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Martinsville, NJ
Time: 2000-08-13 12:34:59
Comments: I haven't had dairy products in over 20 years, except for ice cream (I'm working on that) There is some really good organic ice cream plus some great non-dairy products from Rice Dream.

Name: S. Thanusundaram
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: India
Time: 2000-08-13 09:17:47
Comments: Informative and educative. Creats awareness about false and dangerous affinity towards milk. Good work. Let the net widen with other such products also.

Name: Ernist
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: u.s
Time: 2000-08-12 09:54:52
Comments: This stuff on milk is not true do you belong to p.e.t.a

PETA (no periods) stands for "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals" and, because they are an excellent and caring organization we DO link to them. Besides caring for the HUMAN animal (number ONE on our list) I agree with their concept of caring for ALL animals.

http://www.notmilk.com and http://www.notmilk.com/hs exist primarily for the HUMAN animals... which does, in turn, impact on the welfare of cows and calves (and the many bulls that get the ax because they are not needed).

Denial of the truth will NOT improve your health or lengthen your life (for free, yet). Rather... by ignoring the truth you aid and abet such medical problems as obesity, heart disease, faster growing cancers, osteoporosis, diabetes, asthma, behavioral problems, and more.

Read and heed... or ignore and go to seed. Your choice.

By the way... how are things in Mineola, TX?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: amanda crameri
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: victoria australia
Time: 2000-08-12 06:18:06
Comments: I have suspected for along time that diary was actually making us all sick and presenting various allergic reactions. Our dairy free home is full of healthy, happy children who can concentrate and achieve at school, children who can throw off viral flues very quickly and suffer from very little else. I had very sore pockets under arms in the gland area, a dairy free diet has eliminated these tokins, reduced breast fluid and tenderness. I feel terrific.

Name: Russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-08-10 08:59:52
Comments: Is this true????????"FDA has been receiving inquiries about whether insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1) associated with the use of recombinant bovine somatotropin (rbST) in dairy cows could have adverse effects on people who consume the milk from treated cows. Specifically, allegations have been made that dietary IGF-1 will cause breast cancer ....... FDA and other scientific and regulatory bodies have thoroughly examined the safety of milk produced by rbST-treated cows and have concluded that it is safe. The consumption of dietary IGF-1 plays no role in either inducing or promoting any human disease, nor does it cause malignant transformations of normal human breast cells .........the suggestion that IGF-1 in milk can induce or promote breast cancer in humans is scientifically unfounded and misguided. FDA has determined that milk from rBST-treated cows is safe for human consumption and has not been found to be different from milk from non-treated cows."

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Russ,

Monsanto sent their top scientists and attorneys to work at FDA to gain approval for their genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. A revolving door has rewarded two ex-FDA Commissioners with Monsanto employment.

History will judge the approval process for rbST as one of the great scientific frauds of the twentieth century.

Levels of IGF-I always increase after cows are injected with rbST. IGF-I, the most powerful growth hormone in a cow's body, is identical in structure and amino acid sequence to human IGF-I. This powerful growth hormone has been identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast, prostate, and lung cancer.

Should Monsanto or FDA wish to reveal the scope of their betrayal, they would release the Richard, Odaglia, and Deslex study in which every lab animal treated with Monsanto's hormone got cancer. They will never do so, of course.

FDA concluded that there were no biological effects on lab animals from rbST-treatment. A few months ago, as a result of my hungerstrike, FDA admitted (in a ten page letter) that their original conclusion was not based upon truth. Lab animals produced antibodies to these proteins, negating their untested conclusion that bovine proteins are degraded in the stomach and gut.

BOTTOM LINE: Milk is a hormonal delivery system. Genetic engineering increases the amounts of naturally occurring growth hormones in milk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-08-09 16:36:41
Comments: Is this true? The trace level of BST in milk does not differ significantly regardless of whether or not the animal has received supplemental BST. Furthermore, heat treatment, such as occurs with pasteurisation, inactivates 90% of the BST in milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

No, that is NOT true.

"FURTHERMORE," FDA's conclusion that heat treatment inactivates 90% of the BST in milk was a complete fraud.

They based that conclusion upon an experiment conducted by Paul Groenewegen and a group of scientists with Monsanto ties. (MacBride, Elsasser).

In the study, milk was pasteurized at 162 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 minutes and only nineteen percent of the BST was deactivated. Milk is normally pasteurized for 15 seconds at that temperature, NOT 30 minutes!

Monsanto and FDA nearly got away with that lie. The fraud was published in the August 24, 1990 issue of SCIENCE (Juskevich & Guyer). Not one of SCIENCE'S 500,000 readers caught this error. If not for my efforts, the world would not have learned of this deceit.

Apparantly, Russ, you are still being brainwashed by this lie. By any chance, are you studying dairy science at Cornell University?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Susan
Website:
Referred by: Lycos
From: Ridley Park, PA
Time: 2000-08-09 15:34:05
Comments: I wish I had heard this years ago. I drank tons of milk when I was pregnant. Of course, I made my little girl drink milk at every meal. At age 4-1/2, she was diagnosed with Type I, Insulin Dependent Juvenile Diabetes. It makes me sick to think this could have been avoided. Has anyone else experienced this with their children? Does anyone know how and where I can buy non-dairy substitutes? Anyone interested in a class action suit against the dairy industry?

Name: Merja Savoniemi
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sweden
Time: 2000-08-09 09:21:58
Comments: I knew that milk is not good for us, but so much that I read from your site I didn't know!! It's the same thing with water and other things we use and don't know "the secrets", because of political and economical reasons. The mankind destroyed the beaty we got from our Creator, and we must admit that without His help we are lost!! As I'm working with health products I'll spread the word of your fantastic information and altruistic work!!!!

Name: Cynthia Tiano
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Time: 2000-08-08 14:57:09
Comments: I didn't find you through AOL - but that was the closest menu choice. I heard Robert speak at AR 2000.

Name: Phil
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-08-08 01:09:08
Comments: "hey web master i hope your cancer kills you soon " What a horrible thing to say!! Read the presentations, accept it or question it . . but there is absolutely no need for comments like that. Man, what is this world coming to with remarks like that?

Name: Laura
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From:
Time: 2000-08-07 10:28:06
Comments: Human milk is good for human babies. The garbage cows milk you buy in the grocery store isn't good for anyone-not even baby cows. Thanks for helping get the word out. As a pedi nurse I have been very concerned about the detrimental effects on our children & wish more people knew.

Name: Nancy Higgins
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Virginia
Time: 2000-08-07 08:33:52
Comments: I agrre that milk and meat are very dangerous. Just look at all the products on TV to alleviate symptoms. All the products for heartburn. We are suppossed to go ahead and eat sausage then medicate ourselves. Also the same is true for Lactaid. The reason milk upsets our stomach is because it is for cows not humans. Why not just eliminate these foods? Only in America do people eat such stupid foods and then let the drug companies get rich on top of it!

Name: Karen W. Brown
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: York, PA
Time: 2000-08-06 20:40:58
Comments: I met you at the Whole Life Conference in Baltimore and purchaced 5 copies of your book which I have been sharing with anyone who will listen. I am a Lactation Consultant and see the damage that drinking milk does during pregnancy: allergies before birth, problems with sucking after birth, colic, reflux, asthma, eczema etc.even in breastfeeding babies whose mothers drank milk during pregnancy and continue afterwards. I've been trying to tell people this for over 10 years. I also work in a health food store where I hand out reprints and your website to anyone I can get to listen. Keep up the good work!

Name: Tom Mazza
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Garfield, N.J.
Time: 2000-08-06 07:45:44
Comments: I heard Robert Cohen on WOR AM last week, even taped most of it as I learned more than I wanted to know, but knowledge is power. Milk has been a big part of my life since I was a child. Now at age 45 I start to question things as far as my health & wellbeing. Feeding cows hormones & injections to increase milk production has to have effects that we still may not fully understand for years to come, but what we already know should serve notice to intelligent thinking people. We have been sold down the road by the media. The lies told to us on TV, radio & print have all been paid for by the nice folks who would rather see you sick or dead as long as their pockets get lined with your cash. But what the hell, after all these years, the American public will still vote for the political candidate with the best slogan or TV commercial. Enough said.... WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! Educate yourself & start asking questions before you & your family pay the price & become the new victims of engineered foods. I do not buy milk any more or drink it. No more ice cream & now to get off butter (not easy) I am making it my business to get off it & spread the word. Thanx Robert Cohen.

Name: Lucy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Scotland
Time: 2000-08-06 06:11:35
Comments: What a wonderful site - you are spreading powerful, health-promoting information here. Our health as a family has improved hugely after cutting out dairy four years ago - let's hope the truth becomes more widely known soon.

Name: Ashlie Visco
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Canada
Time: 2000-08-05 23:46:51
Comments: Milk is very good for you actually. As a public health nurse i see many women with Ostoperosis. for them the awnser is very simple they need Calcium. And milk is one of the best providers of this type of nurriture. Yes, some people are allergic to milk, however some people are allergic to cucumbers as well. Everyone is different. I hope you fokes don't expect everone to become a "VEGIN." We like in a well off country. Why arn't you proud of that? Women are made to excreet milk to feed their young, it's natural thing. Brest milk is saterated with the mothers immune system to protect th baby, because babies they are born without an immune system, and need this until they develop their own! I SUPPORT MILK AND THE INDUSTRY (which creates needed jobs)

Next time you visit, try reading something. If you have problems
in that department... try the "short course":

http://www.dorway.com/milkinfo.txt

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: jd
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-08-04 23:18:49
Comments: hey web master i hope your cancer kills you soon

Your like-minded dishonorable fellows at the FDA and Monsanto wish
the same thing, I'm sure.

Sorry, but I refuse to expire until nameless, irresponsible,
unaccountable and just plain MEAN sorry examples of humanity
like you are out of business.

I owe that much to my grandchildren!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Dr. Isa Infante
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Knoxville, Tennessee
Time: 2000-08-04 22:12:56
Comments: Finally, the word is out about dairy products......I consider dairy the no. l incubator of disease (no. 2 is sugar, no. 3 is land-mined salt (which contains sugar and aluminum), and no. 4 is meat. I will refer your website to as many people as I can. Thanks for the good work.

Name: Noel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 2000-08-01 13:47:29
Comments: Well, friends, if you're gonna post a guestbook-message from a Hagelin supporter, here's my push for Nader: from what I've seen of his own eating habits (in person), not to mention his consumer advocacy, Mr. Nader is as close as you're going to get to a candidate who would help crack down on the Dairy world! Bush and Gore make we wanna Ralph... Noel

Actually, no president has ever been "ideal". For too many years too many folks have said it seems to be a choice between the lessor of evils. Many say Regan was great for America... but he is the one who let aspartame get to market, and if he used it... that may have cost him his mind.

Nixon was said to have been great at foreign policy, but he is the one who took three million from the dairy folks and then twiddled with milk price supports that still bite the American taxpayer in the wallet.

The purpose of NOTMILK.com has nothing to do with politics. It has more to do with the RESULT of bad politics. NOTMILK, hungerstrike, DairyEducationBoard.com (new), and others are concerned with human health and the provable fact that cow's milk and dairy is VERY detrimental to the health of all who consume it.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: mr_natural
Website:
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From:
Time: 2000-07-31 00:55:51
Comments: Spread the word! Stop the insanity! Vote for John Hagelin! "it is only in compassion that wisdom finds its fullest expression"

Name: Millie
Website:
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From: Phoenix, AZ
Time: 2000-07-30 13:32:26
Comments: This is a very informative site. I have never liked milk but I do eat cheese but not for long! Thanks for the information.

Name: Harry Beckham
Website:
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From: Altamonte Springs, Florida 32701
Time: 2000-07-29 12:26:45
Comments: Hello Again, I'm a Type II Diabetic. It's been one month now and I've not had a Gucose reading above 123 and I read twice a day, and alternate AM & PM to Noon & supper. I went for my 90 day check up on 7/19/00 and got results of my 7/12/00 fasting Blood (HbA1C)Test. It was down to 6.0% from 6.3% in April/00. My Oct/99 was 5.9% and went up to 6.1% in Jan/00, and up again in April to 6. as stated above. I had to do something to stop the spikes(high/low reading) ,and the higher AbA1c Sugar results. So I started a Duel Diet of: "Eat Right for your Blood Type" B+; and "Not Milk". The results in just 30 days speaks for itself! My goal is to be off my Meds(Glucaphage 500mg twice a day)by Jan 2001. I've been drinking White Wave"Silk"Plain Soymilk distributed by White Wave, Inc.Boulder, C) 80301 and sold in most Albertson Stores. Surf White Wave: I also have been eating Soy Maze Cheese(no casein), and Millet & Oat Breads(no casein) and lots of Turkey. Fish, Eggs and Red meats are okay for my Blood type though. I'm mixing some vegan burgers in to off set too much beef. I have given up all chicken(eggs are okay), Ham, Pork, Bacon,ShellFish,Shrimp,Crab,Lobster,Clams,Corn,Wheat,Barley,Tomatoes,Ketchup(Very Bad for me), Black Beans, Avocado, Olives, Popcorn and most Peanuts. Even though Almonds and Walnuts are okay for my type. The Proof is coming in so far, and my goal for 2001 is in reach. Today is my birthday, and what a gift! The past 2 1/2 years of up and down now look like a thing of the past. Exercise on my small trampoline of 300 to 350 jumping jacks helps each day. This is done inside with AC on. Thank you for the gift of Life! Harry Beckham

Thank you VERY much for this fine "payday" for our
efforts to spread the WHOLE truth.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Sarah
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Missouri
Time: 2000-07-28 20:32:03
Comments: Do you honestly believe all this crap you're pushing off as "science"? Have you even taken a science course in your life? After reading through the so-called research (that is, before I had to quit because it got too ignorant), I have yet to see any shred of scientific evidence. All I read was a bunch of "when milk consumption increased, x also increased". Pushing off such figures as hard proof is the worst kind of faulty science. However, I'll give you this: for undiluted crackpot knowledge, you're obviously undisputed.

Sigh! Please visit notmilk.com
... this time with your eyes open and with an unbiased mind.

If that is not possible... then please stay in good standing
with your health insurance company and DO keep your
premium paid in full.


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Rich Boyajian
Website:
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From: Boston, MA
Time: 2000-07-27 13:50:35
Comments: I am a cancer survivor who is studing to become a nurse practitioner. Most peopel are not aware of the dangers and expect the government to protect us. I have a daughter who I will not give her BGH.

Name: Jenny Easton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 2000-07-27 10:55:53
Comments: It's amazing how little I knew about milk!!! I'm a regular milk drinker and now that I've read the facts, I think I will reconsider! Thank you for posting such useful information on your site! JEN


Name: Eileen Rolon
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Somerville,NJ
Time: 2000-07-26 20:55:33
Comments: Apparently I have been in a coma! I never really liked milk - thank god - but used to love cheese. Now I have every reason in the world to go organic veg - my daughter! She will never drink that crap!! In fact, after I stopped nursing I had put her on milk-based formula, after about two months she would begin to vomit about half of the bottle back. So on the advice of the same friend who recommended this website, I switched to soy - its not organic , but it has to be an improvement, she doesn't vomit at all !!! It's good to be awake!!! er

Name: Max Leitch
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Morton, IL
Time: 2000-07-26 17:48:51
Comments: I have recently started a complete plant-based diet. I am 17 years old. For the past year I have been having huge headpains in the back of my head, that by the end of the day would move forward to the rest of my head. It is the worst pain imaginable. It has been a month since I have stopped eating animal products and my head pains have completely gone away since then. I don't really know if they have anything to do with eachother, but it does sound like a huge coincidence.

Aspartame (Equal/Nutrasweet) causes headaches in many people...
as does mono sodium glutamate (MSG, the flavor enhancer) used in
MOST processed foods. Both are "excitotoxins", and when taken
together they CAN cause amplified damage (not unlike taking certain
drugs with alcohol).

See: http://www.dorway.com on aspartame and

See: http://www.truthinlabeling.org on MSG.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Sara
Website:
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From:
Time: 2000-07-23 16:39:45
Comments: There is absolutely nothing wrong with drinking milk!!!! I live on a dairy farm and I think that it is wonderful stuff! It is very healthy!!! I don't agree with anything that you say!!!

They say that "ignorance is bliss". That was certainly true for me for the 60 some-odd years during which I consumed large amounts of cow's milk and dairy... all that really tasty stuff! (an acquired taste, by the way).

However, a bit over two years ago I was introduced to the WHOLE truth about cow's milk. After learning about the powerful IGF-1 growth hormone, that is identical between cows and humans, I now understand WHY my surprise case of prostate cancer grew so rapidly that it had already spread by the young age of 55. IGF-1... is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of cancers.

I have been dairy-free for over two years... and my often-cursed cancer now grows FOUR TIMES more *SLOWLY* without that extra IGF-1 my blood. For me, and I would submit FOR ALL CANCER VICTIMS... cow's milk is NOT a "taste to die for"!

The problem is, dear misguided Sara, that thanks to *MOST* governments, medical systems, insurance companies, and forms of mass media... THOSE WHO NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH ARE DENIED IT!

For those who are not yet fighting an already diagnosed cancer... there are still the OTHER 58 hormones, scores of allergens, herbicides, pesticides, PCB's, dioxins, extra iodine, traces of up to 52 antibiotics, species-specific lactoferrins and immunoglobulins that create antibodies, calcium-depleting protein (casein), saturated fats (50% of whole milk, 34% of "2%" milk), enough cholesterol in three glasses of milk to equal 53 slices of bacon, viruses, perhaps some paraTB, prions (that lead to Mad Cow Disease)... all topped off by an FDA limit of 20 MILLION live bacteria and 750 MILLION somatic (PUS!) cells per liter. And... there is MORE!

Oops... sorry, Sara. Sorry to destroy your blissful ignorance.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim


Name: Denise Cohn
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Exton, Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-07-22 09:43:50
Comments: I love your website and visit it often to keep up on the latest news. It is sickening to think of what Monsanto gets away with, especially when it is effecting the nations health and the health of our children. I would love to know the number of dairy farmers who actually drink the poison that they create and how many have soy milk in their refrigerators? Keep up the great work!

Name: not j. jackson
Website:
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From:
Time: 2000-07-21 11:14:58
Comments: i could really be doing other things than writing a comment for a milk ad ban, but this is silly. i am quite educated in the "getting an a from hot teacher" subject. i am 24, and did that at 17, and the teacher was 22. i am not ashamed, and got cool points for doing it. i am not saying that all teachers should be doing this, actully it is wrong. but, this is a milk ad. i had no idea who josh jackson was, much less dawson creek, or for that matter, ever seen a milk ad for the mustache, except for mark mcguire. i think whever started this, had good intentions, but has totally blown this out of proportion. i found this site looking at a search for "can someone drink a gallon of milk in one hour and not puke?" next thing i know, i have josh jackson on my screen. sorry, you guys have too much time on your hands. please write back with response. thank you.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I imagine that the "A" you received came from a teacher whose expertise was in a subject other than English.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: laurel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 2000-07-20 00:08:21
Comments: Hey, just wanted to say I think this is a great website. This information needs to be out there more. Keep it up.

Name: Kim Dell'Agnese
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Nashville, TN
Time: 2000-07-19 21:52:42
Comments: WOW

Name: Matt
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: nj
Time: 2000-07-19 21:04:37
Comments: I don't buy it. This web page was made up by a bunch of lactose intolerant losers

Name: lee o
Website:
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From: Northwest Indiana
Time: 2000-07-19 12:09:26
Comments: Heard you on the Mike Segal talk radio show recently, compelling, intelligent and convincing information was presented. Since the show I've made the transformation to non dairy, began using "Sun Soy" brand milk and enjoying the taste! I now tell people of your web site, keep up the good work. I was familiar with the works of Jethro Kloss 20 years ago, thanks for reinforcing my latent beliefs in a non-dairy, very limited meat consumption diet, life style. Lee O

Name: pulin
Website:
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From: ny/nj
Time: 2000-07-18 11:15:14
Comments: I haven't been to your page in a while. It's really great, but what I find even better is the guestbook and how so many people have positive things to say. Keep up the great work. -Pulin

Name: Harry Beckham
Website:
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From: Altamonte Springs, Florida 32701
Time: 2000-07-17 10:49:53
Comments: Dear Mr Cohen: I found you on the Art Bell Show or Coast to Coast Show with Mike Segal, and it was enlightning. You need to come back on again, as more people need to find it. I'm a Type II Diabetic(3 yrs.) I take 500 gms. two times a day. I exercise and diet. For the past 18 days I've been following the "NotMilk Plan" and also follow the "Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type" too! Six months ago my A1C reading was 5.9 but in April it was 6.1 and my Glucose readings were even higher for May and June.(81/156) So on June 30 I went to "NotMilk.Com" and also started the "EatRight 4 My Bood Type B+" diet. Now my readings are between 77 and 121 and much closer together. I'm not having any spikes like last year. I have a question though. There are conflicts on the two diets, and I'm trying to balance the two. My main question is the product from Soy: "Lecithin" which is a protein Gluten,which I hope is a good one? Thank You for your help, Harry Beckham so

Name: Mathew
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Athens, Georgia
Time: 2000-07-14 12:57:21
Comments: Robert, Thank you for all of your hard work over the years. I appreciate the enormous amount of effort that it must have taken to present such a case. I imagine that you aren't getting rich off of any of this, at least, not monetarily. In my own experience, ending dairy consumption made my asthma disappear, helped me drop 50 pounds (to reach and maintain my ideal weight), gave me more energy to do things like run triathlons, and unexpectantly ended the morning ritual of clearing tons of junk from my nose. I feel so much healthier, and I wish I could share how I feel instead of trying to explain it with words. It just doesn't do it justice. It's all an uphill battle against an incredibly well-financed campaign, as you intimately know. I try to be active in my community and educate people about issues such as these. You've helped provide a great amount of ammunition that is making people all over the country question this food. Please keep up effort into the web site and the rest of your work. Thank you again, Mathew Grimm

Name: Starr
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle, WA
Time: 2000-07-11 15:33:52
Comments: i've been vegan for over 2 yrs and feel soooo much better....my asthma has basically disappeared, my allergies have improved, no more cramps, the list goes on. it's hard to explain to people who consume massive quantities of dairy and claim they feel fine that milk is "evil" and damaging to their health, not to mention disgusting. maybe i should forward them this website?!? : )

Name: Gene Martin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NH
Time: 2000-07-11 10:54:49
Comments: I just got your book, "Milk, the deadly poison" from a friend. I look forward to reading it as I have beleived for a long time that Milk is bad. I have read "Fit For Life" and they are very much against dairy product because of the adverse effects it has on us physically. I am against the promotion of Milk for reasons of personal health, but I also don't like what is happening on farms, to the animals. We live in a wicked world full of greed, and that is what spurrs these types of things on. I look forward to a better world in the future. Psalm 37:11 & 29

Name: amanda
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: maine
Time: 2000-07-10 21:39:48
Comments: kewl very interesting

Name: riddhi gandhi
Website:
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From: india
Time: 2000-07-10 07:32:37
Comments: its fab

Name: Jerome Dingess jr
Website:
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From: West Virginia
Time: 2000-07-09 00:09:38
Comments: Keep up the great work. Get the message out and save our lives from the big business of Milk, the cow disease epidemic......


Name: Ron Knutt
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: North Dakota
Time: 2000-07-06 23:23:34
Comments: Thanks for the information. I had quite milk 13 years ago, as I was putting on to much weight. I read "FIT FOR LIFE" and "FIT FOR LIFE II" and had quite all meat for quite sometime, but I started to eat fish and now that I have read the "MAD COWBOY" all meat is gone. I was still eating more than my share of ICE CREAM, but as of 2 weeks ago I quite this also. I can notice my stomach is already getting smaller.

Name: Curtis Harris
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Emeryville, California 10 miles east of San Francisco
Time: 2000-07-06 19:19:54
Comments: See the email that I sent the notmilk workshop about Milk making thousands in Japan today. This is an important. Its a real cover-up! The story has already been pulled from the AP wire. See original story at http://professorcurtis.com/MilkSick.htm Curtis.

Name: Janet
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta, GA
Time: 2000-07-06 17:31:50
Comments: Wow, what a great site! It's absolutely chilling to me to think how many people in this country are happily guzzling, cancer-stimulating hormones and feeding them to their children. I gave up dairy products a year ago after two years of irritable bowel syndrome and have been symptom-free ever since. It pains me to watch my mother put milk on her cereal because it is "good" for her osteoporosis and then listen to her cough and gag up mucus for an hour afterward. Thanks for some good supporting evidence to use on people who don't comprehend why I wouldn't want to drink milk or eat cheese. Keep up the good work!

Name: Count
Website:
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From:
Time: 2000-06-29 07:06:17
Comments: Great site, I am going to be adding it as a link on my (in development) website and have already added it to another one. I am especially greatful for the genetic engineering information which I always find most interesting. Thanks Again.

Name: Dr.Susan Eissinger, D.C.
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: chico, california
Time: 2000-06-27 20:19:25
Comments: Hi Robert. I heard your interview on Coast to Coast AM, it was excellent! I have been a Vegan for over twelve years, and a vegetarian for over thirty five years. I tell all my patients to get off dairy products if they want to prevent health problems. You are totally right. Dairy is destroying our health. It is imperative to get children off dairy immediately and encourage parents to start giving them fresh fruit and vegetable juices. Thank you for bringing light to this subject. Sincerely, Dr.Eissinger

Name: Noel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 2000-06-26 13:43:28
Comments: Erich (Sock Sniffer??), Try this, aside from ditching milk. Give up the meat and cheese, go on a colon and liver cleansing program, start juicing, spend time in fresh air, exercise, pray, and love and be thankful for your life and friends. That should do the trick; but don't look outward for changes, look inward.

Name: Angela Trenholm
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Kelowna, BC, Canada
Time: 2000-06-24 01:04:20
Comments: I've heard many negative comments about milk over the last ten years, but your site really brought everything into perspective. It makes me sick to see how power hungry people can be, at the expense of so many people.

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 2000-06-23 19:18:17
Comments: Well, I haven't consumed milk for 2 weeks now. This is just an experiment to see what happens - it's not a permanent change. Now, although I've stopped drinking milk, I still eat meat, and some cheese. I was expecting, based on what I've read on this site, that I would have experienced some new level of clarity, some sort of quasi-religious ascent to a new plane of reality, as the fog induced by a lifetime of daily milk consumption cleared. It hasn't happened yet. When will the universe lay bare her primal secrets to me? When will I experience the epiphany of revelations? As a footnote, I can't even be sure that I've lost weight yet, since I haven't been to the gym for 2 weeks.

Name: Mike Jones
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Dell City tx
Time: 2000-06-23 18:35:38
Comments: The heck with all you whackos. I'm drinking milk.

Name: Bill Lee
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ohio, USA
Time: 2000-06-23 18:37:05
Comments: I was greatly enlightened upon hearing you on the (Art Bell's) "Coast to Coast AM" show with Mike Seagal. Driving the Highways of this great country of our's that night, I could not wait until I was able to take some "hometime", allowing me to log-on and more deeply research your website and links. I was totally apalled at the cover-ups, half-truths, and down right lies that we have all been fed (along with the hormones, antibiotics and puss) by the Dairy Industry. My wife and I are now on the path to a more pure and healthy diet. Though not one that is strictly vegetarian (we still are eating poultry and fish), we are enjoying, in a major way, all of the new (to us) food choices out there. We are totally NON-DAIRY and NON-MONSANTO, and are currently informing as many of our friends as possible of the blatent abuse of trust that has been played out upon all of us. Thank you for your honesty, and desire to spread the truth! May God richly bless you and your's!

Name: PYROBOB
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ATLANTA,GA.
Time: 2000-06-23 02:43:10
Comments: GREAT SITE. GOOD INFO ON THE EVILS OF MILK. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON THE PROTEIN PRODUCTS USED BY BODYBUILDERS.

Name: B K Bakshi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: INDIA
Time: 2000-06-22 17:46:37
Comments: I am an dairy technocrat having worked for 35 years in this sector with asi's largest milk co-operative-AMUL and also associated with non-governrnment organization working for the cause-animal protection/salvation and vegetarianism in india which off late becoming controvercial although I see lot of difference in dairy industry in USA and India-I have my apprehension on agreeing to many views expressed thro'several platforms-The reason being the milk production and professional way of making the industry viable for very large mass of producers who live in villages and earn thro'this vehicle of changes which has benifitted a very large numbers of farmers and more so helped in many fold to elevate the standard of living,availability of basic infrastructure at village level etc.And also hold different views on the processes like Pasteurization-Homoginazation too;Milk is not Myth-has its own values.Thanks NAME:/B K Bakshi

Name: elisa marcus hooker
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: atlanta georgia
Time: 2000-06-22 15:21:44
Comments: i enjoyed your website immensely. i am done with milk and have switched to soy milk or rice milk. i do soybased nutritional supplements to replenish my system from those vitamins and minerals it is depleted of. please visit me at www.gotsoy.org i am not a total vegan but i am on my way. thanks elisa

Name: Nora Lee
Website:
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From: Cow Country, Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-06-21 23:06:02
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I'm thankful I was fed soy protein 45 years ago! Never have acquired the lust for blood & pus. The information available on this site is quite provocative. I am aware that there is a revolving door for the Monsanto/FDA/USDA triad but what I've read here is almost UNBELIEVABLE! Time for some letter-writing..... I've passed on info from this site to friends and have been asked about your "credentials". Could you share them with us? Respectfully yours, NL

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nora Lee,

Thomas Edison was once asked to explain the secrets to his successes and include his credentials. Edison's response bears tribute to age-old advice regarding human discovery and progress:

"My success is due to one-precent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration."

I have basic tools, of course. As an undergraduate, I performed research in the field of psychoneuroendocrinology. One lesson, taught well, was to identify and eliminate extraneous variables during the course of designing an experiment. This skill enabled me to peel apart layer after layer of scientific fraud during the course of FDA's approval process for Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone.

I consider myself to be a messenger. Is there any other individual or group on the World Wide Web with 1784 letters in his guestbook? Can you find one man or woman who has written a column, in his or her field for every single day during a continuous 500 day period? Read the letters, with my responses. Read the 'squirts' of notmilk wisdom. Every day I continue to learn new evidence about milk's harmful effects, and share them with my readers. My life work is who I am. Those are my credentials.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Denise M. Aranda
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: El Paso, Texas
Time: 2000-06-21 19:18:28
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I will do my part in helping spread the word about the evil Monsanto. I truely enjoyed hearing your lecture in El Paso as part of the Vegetarian Society's function. Thank you for your dedication and for your committment on an issue that seems to be resinanting to deaf ears of money misers!

Name: carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-06-21 01:58:27
Comments: I support many of the philosophies of this cause and I personally do not consume dairy products. However, since you have gone off the hunger strike you are back to your rude comments. For example, belittling your wife for buying non-dairy topping. In your efforts to make sure that Americans are informed with truth and have the free will to make their own choices - you continue to demean others for making those same choices. This will never win support and therefore you are hurting this cause in many ways rather than helping it. Perhaps you could be a little more diplomatic in your insults - isn't that the American way?? The truth should be told - but then it is up to the individual to make their own decisions. Even your wife has that right, believe it or not.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Carmen,

I disagree with you. I continued to make RUDE comments during my hungerstrike. One simply has to read my testimony before USDA & FDA to understand that I will use my brand of humor, sarcasm, and wit to call 'em as I see 'em.

Visit http://www.notmilk.com/hs/fdatestim.html for the FDA testimony.

Visit http://www.notmilk.com/hs/usdatest.html for the USDA testimony.

It is true that I insulted my wife for buying non-dairy creamer. She should have read the ingredients and have noted the presense of sodium caseinate, a milk derivative. My wife has heard me lecture about this at least eleventy-seven times, and knows better than most the effects that casein has on our children.

When it concerns milk and dairy consumption, I will continue to be the same obnoxious character that I have always been! I promise to be a bit gentler with those who have not previously heard the truth about milk!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michael Hedstrom
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Illinois
Time: 2000-06-20 11:59:21
Comments: I heard you on Coast to Coast and was intrigued. Too bad one can't sue the Dairy Council as was done to the Tobacco industry.There seems to be a great deal more wool being pulled over the publics' eyes in this case. I don't seem to recall any sports heros coming on my TV saying "Got Smokes?"

Name: qwazz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Jersey
Time: 2000-06-19 22:54:10
Comments: METHINKS YOU're a couple fries short of a HAPPY MEAL.

Name: Jo Ann
Website:
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From: Las Vegas, Nv
Time: 2000-06-19 19:28:01
Comments: You were a Great Guest on the Coast to Coast radio broadcast. If people would just give ONE thought to WHAT they eat, a cow, a pig, chicken on, and on. "Truth" is where you find it!! I recall the follwing bit of information years ago. My oldest son suggestsed I put it "in writing" and post it on the internet for others. My daughter-in-law liked it and posted it on the fridge door for their two girls. Here goes >>>> "Keeping it Simple" Breakfat; Waking up and getting started with the rising sun. Fruits that grow on trees are great morning starters and eliminators. Lunch; The moon meal as the sun gets closer, the green leafy fibrosis "stuff" that grows above the ground are sweepers that cleans and sweeps the inside walls of your clogged vessels. Dinner; The evening meal as the sun descends so low in the sky, the root vegetables. The body builders, all the foods growing below the ground. A way to keep in-tune with "Mother Earth" Sleep well while your body does the rest!!

Name: Karl Jungclaus
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Tucson
Time: 2000-06-19 07:25:29
Comments: Outstanding site!! If people would just allow themselves to read this site instead of watching TV.

Name: Carlos
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minnesota
Time: 2000-06-19 02:06:02
Comments: I heard you on Jeff Rense last night. I have to tell you, im throwing out the milk in my fridge and im never going back. Ive always wondered why i felt like krap after eating large quantities of dairy products. Now I know why. Thanks Mr. Cohen

Name: Ruth Ann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-06-18 05:00:53
Comments: I love your website. I don't drink milk, and rarely eat cheese. You have simply enlightened me with a few dozen more reasons to avoid milk. I became a vegetarian for health reasons, and have never felt better. I am 2.5 stone lighter than I was two years ago, have started exercising regularly again and am running my first 10 k run in 12 years. I am considering a vegan diet and will most likely make the transition over a few month's time. Thumbs up.

Name: Monika Penner
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: B.C. (Canada)
Time: 2000-06-17 20:57:37
Comments: Lovely site... I visit frequently... Nice that this site has gained much publicity... I see links to it quite often. When and if I ever update my site, I would love to add your site as a link (if I may- you can email me re: this). Yours is an important message... Told in such a stylish way! Cheers! Monika

Name: Monika C. Pattantyus
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Watertown, MA
Time: 2000-06-16 13:53:14
Comments: I am vegan for health reason, and this website confirms what I already know about milk. I also wholeheartedly agree with Robert Cohen's statements about the FDA and USDA: they are all liars and are controlled by the big corporations in the milk, sugar, meat, chicken, poultry, etc., industries. I do not trust a blessed thing these agencies say as they have no clue what they're talking about. All they care about are dollar signs, not the well-being of people in this country.

Name: Christina M. Chan
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minneapolis, MN
Time: 2000-06-15 21:41:13
Comments: Okay, here are my comments. This site is exceptional! I am planning to email people with this site address starting tonite. I am so emotionally charged by the entire issue of GE foods, etc. and am doing my part to bring awareness to others on the subject. I cannot understand how there can be so many ignorant people on this planet! It is not even funny is it. Anyway, thank you for this website and I will be sure to "pass it on".

Name: Patricia
Website:
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From: New York
Time: 2000-06-15 14:36:19
Comments: I just wanted to say that my husband and I have been dairy free for six months, and we have never felt better. I truly beleive that there is a massive conspiracy going on to keep people from knowing about the evils of dairy. It is such a terribly frightening situation. As soon as people find out that we live "dairy-free", they think there is something wrong with US!! It's as though everyone is brainwashed or something! Thank you so much for your informative site. I'm sure it is a useful tool in letting people know the actual TRUTH about dairy, rather than what the media and dairy farmers are trying to pass off as fact. Thanks again! Patricia

Name: Soksniffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Parts Unknown
Time: 2000-06-14 19:37:45
Comments: Another milk horror story for you all... I have a dog -- a dachshund -- named Snickers, whom I love very much. Snickers is the best dog in the whole wide world, so cute and clever; I have two little balls that he just loves to play with and lick... it's adorable! Anyway, he also loves looking in the refrigerator whenever I get food out. Today, I went to the fridge and was reaching for a jar of pickles in the back and as I pulled it out, I accidentally knocked my old gallon of milk (on which, with a sharpie pen, I've drawn a picture of a skull and crossbones as a constant reminder of milk being a deadly poison) out onto poor Snickers! There was a muffled yelp, then he just laid there whining! I think the heavy milk jug broke hapless Snickers' little leg! I took him to the vet, and he's still there, so I don't know how bad off he is, but when I find out, you can rest assured I'll be filing a class-action lawsuit against the monstrous criminals at Alta-Dena and the Dairy Council. Poor, poor Snickers... please be all right!

Name: Kent Hawley
Website:
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From: Spokane, Wa...
Time: 2000-06-14 18:42:09
Comments: Heard your interview on coast to coast a.m. The info blew me away. I think of all the years (50+) that I've believed the milk myth. I have ordered your book and can't wait to share this info with other people. I can imagine most people will not want to hear nor accept the reality of the myth. Thanks God Bless and keep up the good work

Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-06-14 07:14:43
Comments: If milk were actually good for you, why aren't people out there sucking on Cow teats, instead of buying treated, added to/subtracted from and bottled Cow milk?

Name: K Kotongan
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-06-14 05:14:23
Comments: I am quite impressed with your work, and also grateful. I have always been quite healthy, no health problems I would consider out of the ordinary, then again I'm lactose intolerant, nature's way of saying that cow milk is not for me I guess. I also have a two-year-old who I was just advised by the pediatrician to give more milk, lots of milk (meaning cow milk), even though I am still nursing, and giving my child the benefit of my own milk. I know people have said that milk is the perfect food with protein and calcium and all, and I'm inclined to agree... cow milk IS the perfect food... if you happen to be a calf! Likewise, my milk is the perfect food for my child, providing the appropriate balance of nutrition and loving closeness. I have long thought that the consumption of cows and dairy products was probably not the best course, and now that I've had the benefit of your work, I am done with that. Upon hearing what you have to say (especially about what cows are fed!) I was moved up out of my chair and into the kitchen where I found myself dumping most of the contents of a carton of vitamin D milk. I also appreciate that you provide links for alternatives, and there are so many! I've dabbled in alternative foods and cooking, now I simply have the information to motivate me to commit to making that my full-time menu. Thank you, and I know you know this, but please ignore the nay-sayers, what you present and your hard work are invaluable and greatly appreciated!

Name: Soksniffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Parts Unknown
Time: 2000-06-13 16:20:12
Comments: I did what you said and asked myself why Ms. Spears would have lowered herself -- gone "slumming," if you will -- to appear in a milk-mustache ad, but given all of the evidence, I think the answer is: she didn't. Britney, as is well documented in interviews, plans to abstain from certain relations until she marries, and I'm certain that this would include such activities as would cause her to appear in such a compromising photograph, with that awful white substance smeared over her lip. Thus, the only reasonable conclusion is that the pictures are fakes; the internet is rife with such doctored photographs. Now, as for me being a "pawn," as you so callously put it, of the anti-dairy industry... checkmate, Mr. Heino (if that is even your real name). I say checkmate because (and you can ask *yourself* this!) how could any drink that's supposedly good for you go bad? I've never heard of water going bad just because it got left out in the sun, and MY evian doesn't have an expiration date on the bottle! The same goes for healthy fruit juices -- I have a can of pineapple juice in my cupboard that will outlive me if I never open it! And, the final nail in the coffin of your argument (YOUR coffin is being nailed shut by your foolhardy insistence on consuming that deadly, deadly poison): Three of the letters in "milk" are the same as three of the letters in the word "kill." To put it another way, the words "milk" and "kill" are 75% identical. As a (supposedly) intelligent individual, you can't honestly think that's just a coincidence, can you?

Name: Thomas
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington DC
Time: 2000-06-13 00:09:53
Comments: whoah. geez. chill. Enough with the hurting-oy. Anyway, as you can guess, I'm a lifelong omnivore. I don't judge people on what they eat. Hell, I got vegan friends. (by the way DON'T eat those hotess fruit cakes, beef fat is one of the ingrediants--i.e. cherries, sugar + beef fat, trust me) You don't have to gain support to your cause by scare tactics and pseudo science. Take the early sexual maturity nonsense, the reason that has happened is genetic variance due to interracial and interethnic marriages mixed with the estrogen in crazy-ass plastics. Also, women have better nutrition in the last 30 years, same with Japan after WWII, just look at the height of WWII Japanese and their children. (also we're not getting a massive surge of gynecomastia, so it shoots that theory to hell, I've been drinking milk for years, and I still have normal pecs) Just keep eating the way you do, I'll keep eating the way I do. Don't be so zealous about converts or anything, that just makes you as crazy as fundamentalists who believe everyone else is going to hell. Just chill, don't make stuff up. You all chew on a stick of celery and sip a V-8 by the pool, while I chew on a slim jim and sip my milk on the seat next to you. Crownseraph- "Go after the true evils of prejudice and conflict, and join forces with your mental opponents, so that you may live in harmony."

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany, California
Time: 2000-06-12 21:59:38
Comments: I've got 4 words for Soksniffer - get real you pawn of the anti-dairy industry. Ask yourself this, if milk were actually bad for you, why would the lovely Britney Spears be drinking it?

Name: JeNeen
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: atlanta, GA
Time: 2000-06-12 20:09:22
Comments: The book was awesome. This is vitally important information and I pray that millions will get the picture.

Name: Mary
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: St. Louis, MO
Time: 2000-06-12 17:14:04
Comments: In reading a few of the more recent comments, it is clear that some people would rather stick to the beliefs they were brought up with than to open their minds to new possibilities. I refer specifically to 'David' and 'Kuni.' David was emphatic that everything has risks and dangers, and that even fruits and veggies contain chemicals. Both of those statements are true; however, there are ways to minimize one's exposure to the risks and dangers of life. Common sense tells us to wear seat belts in our cars, look both ways before crossing the street, and avoid standing under a tree in a windstorm.

Likewise, we know that consuming animal products is a very real danger to our health. There may be debate as to the extent of the danger, but it exists nonetheless. While produce that comes from non-organic growers does contain a small percentage of pesticide residue, it pales in comparison to the amount of chemicals retained in the muscle tissue of butchered animals and in the milk produced by dairy cows.

Furthermore, the range of chemicals given to meat and dairy animals is extensive: growth hormones, antibiotics, pesticides and herbicides on their feed, chemicals to reduce fat content in the meat. These are consumed daily by the animals on today's intensive farms. Not to mention the ground remains of dead animals, which the USDA permits as feed material. Does avoiding meat and dairy guarantee a long and pain-free life? Of course not; but it certainly gives a person a much better chance of having fewer chronic illnesses.

As far as Kuni's comment regarding calcium goes, broccoli is hardly the only calcium alternative. In addition, the calcium needs of an individual go up in direct proportion to his or her protein intake. What that means is that the more meat you consume the more calcium you NEED to consume. Protein leeches calcium from the bones, so a vegan naturally requires less calcium than a meat-eater.

People should research issues and open their minds to alternate possibilities before automatically dismissing what they don't understand. Fortunately, most of the comments indicate that people are receptive to these ideas and willing to give them a chance.
Thanks for allowing me to speak.


Name: THE DAIRY DEFENDER
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: AMERICA'S DAIRYLAND
Time: 2000-06-12 17:02:12
Comments: HMMMMMM....., READ ALL THE ARTICLES, CHECKED OUT YOUR WORK, AND FOUND LOTS MISSING. WHAT WAS MISSING? TRY THE TRUTH. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TRY TO ADD THE TRUTH NEXT TIME, OR AT LEAST THE WHOLE ARTICLES SO PEOPLE WON'T BE SWAYED BY YOUR CHEAP LIES."VIVA LAS DAIRY PRODUCTS!" LOVE,THE DAIRY DEFENDER

Name: angie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: leesport, pa
Time: 2000-06-12 14:39:14
Comments: I would like to know where you get your info or it is something that you just fabricate to scare ignorant people. Milk is nature's most perfect food providing your body with calcium, protein, potassium and many other nutrients essential to the body. I come from a dairy farm and cows are not treated horribly as you would like to have people believe. They are well cared for, having balanced meals and comfortable living conditions. I suggest that you visit a dairy farm before you misinform people about the well-being of cows. As for you views on milk and dairy products, you are simply a poor ignorant, misinformed person.

Name: Soksniffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Parts Unknown
Time: 2000-06-12 13:17:26
Comments: Poor Eric Heino. He just can't accept the truth. Clearly, he's been brainwashed by the Dairy Council... or should I say "milkwashed"? You think my scenario is "rather unbelievable," Mr. Heino? Well, according to an episode of the Simpsons that was rerun last night, such a scenario is, horrifyingly, all too real! During a car chase, in which two of Springfields finest and Bart (in a ride-along) were pursuing the vicious criminal Snake, an innocent motorist was run off the road only to crash into a milk truck, which then EXPLODED on impact!! They don't just make this stuff up, Mr. Heino! Now, you're a grown man, and you can make your own decisions... if you choose to believe that milk isn't as dangerous as portrayed on the Simpsons, you're well within your rights. But please, won't *someone* think of the children?

Name: Susan Henry
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Bullhead City, Arizona
Time: 2000-06-11 23:44:08
Comments: I heard you on coast to coast and was so interested in your studies and I had to see what your web site had to say. Since I heard you I have now swore off, all dairy products and am looking forward to a healthy way of life. I have asthma, suffer from depression and always been sick almost all winter and I'm looking forward to good health this winter. Thank You for your information.

Name: Evonne Garcia
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Phx.AZ
Time: 2000-06-11 23:13:31
Comments: Thank You for getting the word out

Name: David
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: TX
Time: 2000-06-11 22:14:41
Comments: I'm sorry,but this page is absolutely bogus!Eating just fruits and veggies(or any food for that matter)can be just as dangerous as eating meat and diary products.What about pesticides they use on crops? It's like this page is trying to say that if you eat meat and drink milk you will die a horrible death and if you eat only fruits and veggies that you will live a long and healthy life and that is not true at all.Like anything in life,there are risks and concerns.All this page is trying to do is meet certain peoples' agendas by using fear tactics.

Name: Stephen Brand
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Birmingham Alabama
Time: 2000-06-11 19:01:38
Comments: I heard you a few nights ago on the Art Bell show. I was interested in reading more since I have Type 2 Diabetes and Ulcerative Colitis. I am in my late 30's and overweight by 60 pounds. I have always consumed dairy products. Seems worth investigating the dairy product relationship to many illneses.

Name: Larry Taylor
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Aurora, Colorado
Time: 2000-06-11 11:48:26
Comments: Wow, I really had no idea...thank you for enligntening me to the truth...

Name: Jim and Wilma Schilling
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sequim, WA
Time: 2000-06-11 00:37:57
Comments: Hi Robert: Just heard you for the second time on The Art Bell Show with Mike Seigal. We know from other sources that you are right about the dangers of milk and meat. You have given the impetus to try to eliminate them from our diet.

Name: Sheila
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Bend, Oregon
Time: 2000-06-11 00:32:10
Comments: Wow! Do I feel enlightened. I heard you on talk radio and had to check out your website. I haven't had a drop of milk since. I was telling a friend about it today and she has a friend whos 9 yr. old daughter started menstruating. Her doctor asked her if they drank alot of milk and sure enough they did, so he told her it was the hormones in the milk. From now on we'll be drinking soy milk in this household. Thanks for the information. I'm telling all my friends about your website!

Name: Rahcole
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada!
Time: 2000-06-10 16:53:03
Comments: This is an awesome website! It's good to see so many people going the vegan way! I've been vegan for four months now. It's really awesome to be able to eat a meal without feeling guilty about eating poor animals or abusing your own body.

Name: Kuni
Website:
Referred by: Tripod
From: Michigan
Time: 2000-06-10 11:07:56
Comments: You are mean. You'd have to think what if the world didn't have any milk whatsoever. People would lose so much calcium intake and to get calcium whatsoever they'd be stuck to eating broccoli. Then you'd have an attack on broccolii. You are just mean!!!

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany/California
Time: 2000-06-09 22:27:33
Comments: I oppose your decision to include Soksniffer's rather unbelievable scenario. It's much more likely that milk, and the milk industry, will save your life. Suppose you're driving down a country road, and a bunch of vegeterrorists have set up a roadblock to carjack you. Just as they're about to shoot, an out-of-control milk truck flattens them. Voila - you've been saved by milk! This is based on a true incident in Ohio in 1901.

Name: Amy Lee
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Georgia
Time: 2000-06-09 22:39:22
Comments: I heard you on Coast to Coast this week. Great program! What made me REALLY want to visit was the comment you made when asked why we drink milk..."its delicious" you said. You didn't deny the taste and yet you still made your point come across clearly. I know of the dangers milk produces in my system, yet I too know it tastes good, especially cheese and ice cream. Your stance was healthy and honest and I appreciate it! I've passed your site along to some friends. Its very informative and fun to navigate and the name is very easy to remember. Good job!!! And thanks.

Name: Soksniffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 2000-06-09 16:56:52
Comments: I thought of another way milk can be deadly: what if you're driving down the highway, minding your own business, when suddenly a massive milk truck t-bones your car and "snuffs out your flame"! Would this not be a tragic loss of life that would never have occured if milk weren't being delivered? I say yes! Or, even worse, suppose the impact doesn't kill you, but your car lands upside down in a ditch, and the milk tanker splits and the ditch begins filling with -- you guessed it -- deadly MILK! Your numb fingers struggle to unlatch your seatbelt as the ditch and your car are flooded with milk... quick, snatch one last breath before the "nourishing" liquid closes over your head... glub glub glub....

Great imagination!

However, for the majority of dairy consumers the road to an early demise from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, asthma, etc. has a far slower, much more expensive, and more cruel path to the end.

Over 40,000 mammals and all of them, including humans, WEAN the young from milk. There are many excellent reasons... and 59 hormones is a good start.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Jim C. Reason
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 2000-06-09 14:05:09
Comments: I listened to you on Coast to Coast this week. It was a great program. I have had allergy problems all my life. Now I may know why. Thanks

Name: Janet McGready
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Brigantine,New Jersey
Time: 2000-06-09 04:55:41
Comments: Thank you for your information and knowledge. I really appreciate it. It always seemed odd to drink another animals stuff--now I know why!!

Name: jonathan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: good 'ol st.paul,big time minneapolis
Time: 2000-06-09 00:56:28
Comments: read the a. silverstone piece. pretty good. but carrot juice doesn't taste good to me. how about "not milk (moustache)...soy milk!" or "...carrot juice!!" if you wish. plus i would like to see more information getting out on how milk actually leaches out nutrients and calcium. show proof on how it weakens bones. i've noticed how women who drink alot of milk still have more problems with, is it, osteoperosis? i'm not sure of spelling. leading people back to where to find legitimate info is the only way to help. people need to see it for them selves in easy to find places. just a few thoughts...thanks- jonathan(the taomutt)

Name: connie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: sandiego, CA
Time: 2000-06-08 20:57:20
Comments: Durrrrrrhhhhh,milk! No other country drinks that horrible stuff but Americans! Propaganda from a government that has too much money and not enough brains to do the right things with it! Heard you on coasttocoastam the other night and I find it hard to believe people still drink that flemmy dangerous cows fluid!!!!!!! You would think they would find something else to do with cows.I'll visit you again ; keep in touch.

Name: ronald sullivan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: chgo area
Time: 2000-06-08 19:04:30
Comments: right on this is the way to go

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: bay ridge, NY
Time: 2000-06-08 19:00:53
Comments: hello. been a little while since i posted.. wondering what is worse for you, lactose or caesin. because the brilliant people that bring you some of the 'non dairy' foods a lot of times contain the milk protein. does this effect you just the same as consuming a true dairy product? also, organicly grown dary vs comercial dairy: if u let comercial dairy sit a while, what in dairy multiplies over time? can you write, or do you know of a childrens book that can explain why people should not drink milk from a cow?

Name: Soksniffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 2000-06-08 18:01:43
Comments: Another case against milk: in the Limp Bizkit video for "Rearranged," the whole band was executed in a drowning chamber that filled with deadly MILK! They could have picked water or cream soda or even motor oil (although I only knew one guy who drank that), but they chose milk. That should tell you something right there....

Name: Glenn
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: British Columbia, CANADA
Time: 2000-06-08 15:39:28
Comments: I treat that which occurs in nature with awe and respect I treat that, which is created by man with suspicion. Glenn

Name: Sander
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: The Netherlands
Time: 2000-06-08 11:39:29
Comments:
Hey, Erich Heino, stop talking nonsense please. "The most successful society in human history (us) consumes vast amounts of dairy products.", yeah, right. The earth is dying, I wouldn't call that 'successfull'. We're like a virus. We are killing our habitat.

"Vegetable eaters never accomplished anything significant", yeah right again. I can give you an enormous list, but I'll name a few famous vegetarians. Einstein, Da Vinci, Ghandi, Plato, Pythagoras, Cohen & me. Never accomplished anything significant, duh!

Name: RLPERRY
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Iowa
Time: 2000-06-08 10:51:01
Comments: Heard you on Coast-to-Coast and got quite an education! When will the evil practice of this industry stop? Thankyou for linking the BGH and IGH1 to cancer and being brave enough to open another can of worms. The "added hormones" nightmare will continue to unfold and it is time we are aware of its far-reaching and global impact. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! Bob

Name: Amie_B
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Salt Lake City
Time: 2000-06-08 09:54:12
Comments: I think it is wonderful to see so many people denouncing a very unethical practice that has become so commonly ingrained in our current culture. I applaud all that have changed their diets and lifestyles for the betterment of themselves and of animals.

Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Down Under
Time: 2000-06-08 08:34:47
Comments: Did someone mention "Eat Right For Your (Blood) Type" by Peter D'Adamo? Oh dear..... someone needs redirection.

Name: Rachael Lopez
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Melbourne, Australia
Time: 2000-06-08 07:55:48
Comments: Hello there! This web site is fantasic. Finally people can see the truth. But first they have to believe it. Im a vegan, i promote the lifestyle. Your site has ALL the facts. Though a fantastic thing you should do is make a through page about exactly what you can and cant eat, there are a lot of misinformed Vegans out there! Best wishes.

Name: ron roy
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: mansfield pa
Time: 2000-06-08 02:27:42
Comments: THANKS,WE NEED MORE OF THIS INFO.

Name: Teresa Aguiar
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: San Francisco
Time: 2000-06-08 01:28:25
Comments: For years I would feel sick after eating dairy. I thought it was lactose intorerence but I would still feel sick even when taking lactase enzyme. The following day after consuming dairy I had bizzare personality changes. I would mostly feel cranky and irritable and snapping at everyone and then of course there were the physical smyptoms, inflamation of the moucosa, sinusitus, irritable bowel and fluid retention. When I explained my symptoms to doctors they suggested I was suffering from stress. I now suffer from irratable bowel and fybromyalgia and I don't dare drink any dairy for if I do I can't get out of bed. What is going on?

Name: Bob Tyree
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Salt Lake City, Ut
Time: 2000-06-07 23:29:44
Comments: I also caught you on Coast to Coast last night. Again Monsantos UGLY name comes up! They make herbicides that they won't even reveal the complete formula for (Round-Up)They Genetically alter our food supply to incorporate a perfectly good "organic " pesticide into food crops which will eventually render this safe remedy useless ( the pests will develop resistance due to it's overuse). Then they develop the Terminator seed technology in which you plant their seed and grow a crop but the resulting crop would yield sterile seed, meaning farmers buy their seed or have none.Now we talk about the dairy industry and there they are again. WAKE UP AMERICA. Europe has already rejected these practices yet over HALF of the food we eat is already genetically altered!! It must stop

Name: Christopher Santa
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Defiance, OH- Saranac Lake, NY
Time: 2000-06-07 22:09:48
Comments: Food for thought. Answers may bring action.

Name: Thomas F. Mullins Jr.
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: North Carolina
Time: 2000-06-07 21:38:35
Comments: I heard you on Coast to Coast AM last night. Great show. I'll be doing a lot of looking into this subject. In the mean time, I'm not drinking MILK!!!

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany, or California, whatever
Time: 2000-06-07 19:45:27
Comments: I was joking last week when I suggested that the notmilkman go on Art Bell's old show. But there he was last night (June 6), and I couldn't get through. Does Robert Cohen not consider it ironic to be lecturing on the dangers of BGH between commercials for human growth hormone supplements? Also, I just read the Squirts column. This caught my attention - "Cancer fears occupy the thoughts of most American woman over the age of 30, and my wife, Lisa is no exception. Every twinge or lump becomes cause for concern, and the dairy link to breast cancer is supported by hundreds of scientific studies." This sounds reminicent of the anti-nuclear protestors of the early 80s who lived in constant fear of nuclear war, and passed this paranoid fantasy on to their children, thus reinforcing their beliefs. The most successful society in human history (us) consumes vast amounts of dairy products. Doesn't that tell you something? Vegetable eaters never accomplished anything significant (an overstatement, but you get my point).

Name: John Bradley
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Antwerp Ohio
Time: 2000-06-07 19:16:49
Comments: I'm so verry glad I found your site. I've been looking for some healthy altunitives for a healther menue. The friend I got your page from was Coast to Coast. I have realised the doun falls of milk for some time. Thanks JMB

Name: Louis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-06-07 18:59:40
Comments: The coast-to-coast radio program was astounding! I have tried lactose-free before, but your message instilled just the kick I needed to obstain forever. Thank you!

Name: Eve
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: CA
Time: 2000-06-07 17:31:56
Comments: Keep up the great work ! It is to bad that a responsible person like yourself can not sit on the FDA instead of all these bought and paid for losers. That also goes for the Supreme court appointees. These men are there for life, controlling the lives of every US citizen making decisions that overtly destroy all of us. Soon the herd of sheep will not follow the pied piper (Gov.and media moguls)any longer. These good old boy societies need to be dismantled for the sake of mankind. Before any info is handed out to the unasumming public it is disected and purged of any distasteful or wronge doing of it's owners. Lies, coverups and constant harazment of whisle blowers makes these traders of the U.S. stand out like spots on a Lepard. How else could they lead you down the wrong path. All this info is carefully fed to unsuspecting consumers. Knowledge is power and without it, they continue to kill off thousands of us at a time. This milk issue is only one of a vastly large number of issues that plague this country and others. But you won't understand it unless you start reading the real history that's kept out of the educational system and is very hard to find in book stores. Barnes and Noble is now owned by the largest German Co./ now they controll what Americans will be able to purchase on their book shelfs. I have first hand knowlege. After WWII the U.S. brought over and paid for all those Nazi scientist to set up shop in our labs. Well they weren't fixing chicken soup! I suggest if your interested in finding out about what has been really going on in our county and who's been controlling it go read The Truth Shall Set You Free/David Icke. Try Borders Books, they are still owned by Americans and still have the books on their shelfs. Also try reading Montauk & Montauk Revisted/ Preston Nicohls and Peter Moon. Good luck people a new day is coming, thank God !

Name: R.Omer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Las Vegas Nv.
Time: 2000-06-07 17:14:08
Comments: Hey, Mr.Cohen,heard you on "Coast to Coast" radio show and lost some sleep,but gained alot of knowledge.I had heard that dairy products were not especially good for people and have been trying to cut-back.I,m going,"cold turkey"for a couple of weeks, or maybe forever if it seems to help.I live in a gambling city,but I won,t gamble with my health(or money).I,ve E-mailed your web site to my friends. THANKS

Name: NS
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Phx, Arizona
Time: 2000-06-07 16:09:33
Comments: My husband heard you on the radio talk show, Mike Seagat, boy from what he told me and from what I've seen on this website A LOT of things make sense now. I'm going to try my best to change my diet for me and my family!!! For some time now, my husband and I told each other that the food we eat is what is keeping sick and unhealthy. We been having a hard time keeping in shape and breathing right. We both have asthma from day one but it seemed to be getting worse and in fact it is. Hopefully I can change that. Thank you for all this information!!

Name: demar merrill
Website:
Referred by: AngelFire
From: preston, idaho
Time: 2000-06-07 16:03:45
Comments: heard you on the old art bell site on am radio at 3 oclock this morning and stayed awake listening for 2 hrs. i have type 2 diabetis, so was interested in what i heard. i copied the e-mail address and here i am. i have downloaded a lot of your information and it makes sense to me. i am also on a slim fast diet to lose some weight and found out that i wont be using that product any longer. i have lost 14 lbs and my glucose level is today at 79. i think i have done well, as it was 158 when we picked it up. i think the diet will help more if i get of the animal products so thats where i will be from now on.. thank you

Name: Lynn Bedri
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Los Angeles area
Time: 2000-06-07 15:10:12
Comments: Thanks for giving the facts!

Name: TRACY
Website:
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From: TEXAS
Time: 2000-06-07 15:07:15
Comments: I heard you on the radio last night and thought I would check the site out. The section on Diabetes was extremely interesting that I plan to explore more. I am the only child , out of 3 brothers in my family who did not get Type 1 diabetes. It is a serious illness that I always thought was basically genetic in nature. My wife and I put off having children for 10 + years out of fear that they may get this disease because both of my brothers have died from complications arising from diabetes. I remember being somewhat shocked when a pediatrician tolds us of a link between dairy products and diabetes. Keep up the good work , your message is getting out and please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

Name: enki
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle
Time: 2000-06-07 14:00:02
Comments: thanks for the great info.. I had no clue.. guess I'm done with dairy for good now.. alot of things suddenly make sense to me..

Name: D. Adams
Website:
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From: Florida,USA
Time: 2000-06-07 14:06:26
Comments: Thank you for being on Coast to Coast am1290 talk show. I learned a great deal,of information.

Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Missouri
Time: 2000-06-07 13:22:05
Comments: Yes, Mr. Webmaster, I'm the dairy farmer. Which is why I drink milk. I have yet to see blood, pus or feces go into the tank, and know that many of the 59 hormones are also included in many other foods - including fruits and vegetables. Our bodies need most of these hormones. There are a lot of important facts conveniently left off of this website. Here's just one - taken out of our local newspaper, The St. Joseph News-Press, May 17 issue. An article titled "Here's The Beef" (May is national Beef Month) states: "The ADA (American Dietetic Association) includes red meat, along with dairy products, in it's listing of whole foods that include the fatty acid CLA 'which may alter cancer carcinogenesis.' CLA, a natural byproduct of animal metabolism, is found in seafood and other types of meat, but it is concentrated in the highest quantities in dairy products and red meat. It's greatest benefit appears to be in inhibiting melanoma, colorectal, lung, ovarian and, especially breast cancers." I wish that I could reprint the whole article - it was very informative. A few years ago I remember reading somewhere about the 'allowable amount' of mouse hair and feces that is in peanut butter. One day I opened a can of spinach and there was a grasshopper, processed, cooked and ready to eat - I almost did! My ex-in-laws are truck gardeners - we soaked the greens, broccoli, cabbage and other vegetables in salt water to get most of the aphids and worms - but a lot get eaten. There are allergens all over the world, and mites in our eyelashes. If I was allergic to milk and dairy products I would stay away from them. But I'm not. When my mother was 27 the doctor's found cervical cancer. She had a partial hysterectomy (kept the hormone-laden ovaries), and is now 64 years old. I imagine emphasyma or lung cancer will do her in long before any other kind of cancer - due to her diet of coffee, cigarettes, and for a few years there - lots and lots of beer. She also has osteoporosis. In short - my mother does not take care of herself at all, nor does she care to. I also had ovarian cancer at 28, same operation. I'm 44 now, no signs. As for the cholesterol, I had blood work done several years ago - I don't remember the numbers, but the doctor kept telling me that he wished he had my numbers - really low "bad" stuff, and high "good". Next time I'm in town I'll get the numbers. Fats - I need, my work is extremely physically demanding, and when I play - I play really, really hard. Toxins - nothing in the world is truly organic nowadays - there are traces of acid rain everywhere - that was in one of my organic food books, hopefully I can find it. Mentioning 53 slices of bacon a day does not scare me - my body processes it just fine. My body does - maybe not yours, but I can handle it. And let me tell you about a youth on the right track. I grew up in town - not a dairy. My venture into the dairy world did not begin until I was 25 or so. My children did grow up on my small farm. We bought one little Jersey because we drank so much milk, had a farm, and love animals. So my son and daughter did drink lots of fresh, raw milk, and still do. My youngest daughter just graduated from high school - third in her class of 59. (She was neck and neck for first until she fell in love and developed 'senioritis' during third semester). She was president of her school's National Honor Society, and received a 33 on her ACT test. Also cheerleader, basketball, and Homecoming queen. When my son was in high school he was also president of the National Honor Society, and received a 29 on his ACT test (probably lower than his sisters because we didn't get the cow until he was 6, and my daughter has had it since she was weaned from my breast, at six months). My son is 6'1", probably weighs 175, is still in college, works part-time as an EMT, full time at a very large city fire department - is married with two daughters. His wife will be playing basketball for the college she attends - after two babies. My son has to mix half & half with whole milk to create the fat level and taste he desires. My daughter is 5'7", 115 pounds - flawless complection - perfect, beautiful. I'm 5'6", 115 pounds, a few small lines and gray hairs (no zits) - and very fit. These are true facts and numbers. I'm not going to praise milk alone for all these blessings. Genetics, good fortune, hard work, and just plain happiness can split the credit. I'm sorry that everybody's body does not respond the same or as well - but to blame it all on one particular food is senseless to me - and call milk a poison - that's just ridiculous. There are viruses, bacteria, fungi, feces, etc, on almost everything we put in our mouth - and if anything sterile goes in, ten to one it took chlorine or some other chemical or a heating process to get it that way. Our bodies can filter, clean and detoxify a whole lot of things - and there are may right and wrong tracks to follow in life - consuming dairy is not a wrong way. The scare tactics used on this website could be damaging, if they frighten somebody into bad nutrition practices unnecessarily. Did you know that there is a site on the internet hosted by a man who claims to have invented a time-travel machine? He says he's been back and forth in time a lot - even sells the schematics for his vehicle. This man truly believes what he says - they are facts to him. You can show him "facts" and figures until you are blue in the face, and he only sees his own, based on his own personal experiences. Sorry this is so long. I've got to get out and get some chores finished.

Name: mik
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: seattle wa
Time: 2000-06-07 11:50:07
Comments: heard on Mike Seaget radio show--- wow keep going after those big agi-biz guys!!!! your stepping on big toes!

Name: Marne Rogers
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Avon, NY
Time: 2000-06-07 09:54:07
Comments: This is among the most important sites on the Internet! I have, as a result of exposure to the truth, given up dairy products entirely and my husband is on his way to doing the same. This is no small accomplishment for a guy who loves cheese as much as he does. Can't thank you enough for opening my eyes and mind. Marne Rogers

Name: John
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-06-07 10:06:03
Comments: Sure open my eyes ! Off of milk from now on and will try to wean myself off of beef. Thank you and coast to coast very much!! Keep up the good work and the fight.

Name: Robb Saunders
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Winston-Salem, NC
Time: 2000-06-07 09:55:38
Comments: I recieved the web page address from a New Ways distributor from Australia. The site is: www.hungerstrike.com/diary05.html#197 I could not get this address to come up at work, where I am now but I did at home and was GROSSED out! Thanks for scaring the crap out of me! robb Access all previous daily comments via: http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html

All "hungerstrike" diary entries are now a part of the "squirts of NOTMILK wisdom. The link to this is:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html

The link to that specific document is:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirt25.html#197 with the difference in filename being a change from "diary05" to "squirt25".

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: STEPHEN ANDERSON
Website:
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From: TULSA
Time: 2000-06-07 06:25:23
Comments: I heard of you on Coast to Coast A.M. The show was very shocking. I'm a milk and dairy user, why because it does a body good. }: Not anymore. Thank you very much for your efforts. You get my vote for the Humanitarian Award.

Name: Daniel
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Bend Oregon
Time: 2000-06-07 04:56:42
Comments: Robert was a guest on "Coast to Coast", that's how I found this website.

Name: Doug Williams
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Citrus Heights, CA
Time: 2000-06-07 04:30:19
Comments: Mr. Cohen I heard you on coast to coast and enjoyed that program more than any other I've ever heard,thank you. I have been a milk drinker all my life and you scared the hell out of me. I want to quit dairy products but, I really do crave ice cold milk. But, I will try. Thank You !!! Do you trust congress to get to the bottom of this? If not what can we do? Thanks Doug Williams 7800 Copper Oak Ct. Citrus Heights, CA 95610

Name: Moie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sunny Hot Florida
Time: 2000-06-07 04:23:12
Comments: I am sooo very happy to hear that I have been going in the right direction by giving up milk and milk products. Of course, this isn't the easiest task. Thanks for all the helpful information and encouragement!! *moie*

Name: Nathaniel J. Smith
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minneapolis, MN
Time: 2000-06-07 03:58:59
Comments: I gave up milk about August of 1999, and since then I have not had a problem with my sinus' nor have I have any form of on going sinus infections. I have also managed to loose some weight.

Name: Fermin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Coast-To-Coast Website
Time: 2000-06-07 00:05:22
Comments: Nice work but you miss a major point. This, like many other approaches to diet, does not account for: 1. Body Type 2. How the food is prepared and consumed 3. Temperature 4. Time of day 5. Energy state of body There are cultures around the world that consume two to five times more dairy products than the average American with no ill effect on health or longevity. Why? Because, there is more to it than one simple food or ingredient. One good approach explaining the differences listed above is described in the book "Eat Right For Your (Blood)Type" by Peter. D'Adamo, N.D. A better and more comprehensive explanation is described in Deepak Chopra, M.D.'s book: "Perfect Health." I gave up dairy products for five years. After reading Chopra's work on Aryudedic medicine it all made sense to me. I started consuming them again in a manner appropriate for my body type. AND I FEEL MUCH BETTER. Organic milk, in small quantiites, WARMED or BOILED. NOTHING COLD. We Americans love to jump in on fads without looking for simple answers all around us. The explanation about how milk affects different human bodies was written long ago in Aryvedic texts. A moderate approach may dillute your publicity in the short term but will gain respect and help a great many persons in the long run. Better this effort than none.

Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Missouri
Time: 2000-06-06 21:30:57
Comments: Here we have a 23 year-old with 'great wisdom' who uses such creative adjectives as 'creepy', 'mental', 'glowy', and that fascinating verb 'pooping' ... please! At this very minute my clueless cat is lapping his fresh cow's milk, sitting beside him is a bowl of cat food and it's made of - eewwhhuu... fish - Studley's dining on the flesh and fluid of totally un-feline species! Oh my gawd ... my kitty-kitty probably won't see his sweet 16th birthday this July - I've been so cruel - so out-there.In my opinion Alicia Silverstone is the perfect role-model for this Notmilk mission - really makes me want to ditch dairy - NOT!!!

Ummm. You are the dairy farmer, right? I submit that nothing would sway your mind from being pro-dairy... right?

Not facts, not logic, not even a youth on the right track.

Enjoy your 59 hormones, scores of allergens, toxins, cholesterol, fats, blood, feces, virusus, bacteria, pus and more... my cancer grows MUCH slower without it... and it is NOT a "taste to die for".

You can keep my "share"... and that of the rest of my family.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Linda C. Hayes, O.D., Ph.D.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Houston, TX
Time: 2000-06-06 17:53:23
Comments: I heard about you from Coast To Coast Am. When taken off the bottle at age 1 year, I refused milk. The taste of it always made me sick. At school we always had a milk and cookie break, I had to use quite an imagination to find ways of disposing of the milk. Planter boxes or offering it to a neighbor for a cookie seemed to work well. So I am glad to see that after 50 years of refusing milk, that a web site has finally appeared honoring my choice. Plus as a lover of animals and the environment it is not nice to turn the cows into industrial products, Keep up the good work. LINDA

Name: Rhonda
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Grand Rapids, Michigan
Time: 2000-06-06 11:08:24
Comments: Hi. This site helped me out a lot when I was doing a research report for one of my classes. It helped a ton. THANKS!!!

Name: spencer blackman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-06-06 02:10:27
Comments: I wanted to add just a few points. 1. Avoiding dairy can be very difficult or very easy. Since the typical American diet is practically a milk menu, one cannot enjoy a milk-free diet without unplugging from this mass belief system. For the dedicated, I think a fast is a good way to help reduce one's attachment to milk. Once you realize that you don't need to eat every day, and in fact not eating for a few days feels so wonderful, it is easier to accept that you don't need milk in your diet. 2. Robert seems to be a very intelligent and dedicated man. To that extent, this site and what it has to say deserves an open-minded review. But never take anyone's words as gospel, even Robert's. Use your mind to evaluate this issue rationally. For example, doesn't the simple fact that no other animal that us consumes milk after infancy, let alone the milk of another species support the basic logic that cow's milk is not for human consumption? Only when you are totally out of touch with the workings of nature does this truth escape you. 3. Soy milk and Peanutbutter Bumpers make the best cereal EVER! Best of luck everyone!

Name: spencer blackman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-06-06 01:38:42
Comments: Keep it up!

Name: Sarah Tarr
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Utah
Time: 2000-06-05 22:45:28
Comments: HEY MAN! I LOVE YOU GUYS SOOOOOO SOOO MUCH. VEGANS ARE THE COOLEST AND MOST "BESTES" PEOPLE IN THE WORLD!!!!! -SARAH:) :) :) :) :) :) OH YEAH !!!!I LOVE SILVERCHAIR TOO!!!

Name: Kim Boykin
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Ripley, MD (just south of Washington D.C.)
Time: 2000-06-05 21:18:00
Comments: I only wish to express my gratitude, although with the overwhelming number of people who do the same everyday, I don't suppose that it means much. I have always detested milk and have never understood why anyone in their right mind would want to consume it. Recently, I have broken myself of my last dairy love, cheese. A decision I will never regret. I am 15 years old. Most of my friends think that I am "full of bullsh*t." However, I wish to write an article for my school newspaper about the truth about dairy. I have found this site to be awesomely full of information and absolutely more helpful to me, both for my article and personally, than any other. Thank you again.

Name: Jamie Carter
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: TN
Time: 2000-06-03 23:20:42
Comments: I felt like this for a long time and have been trying to convince my family. Hopefully with this overwhelming compilation of evidence they will listen.

Name: Traci
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-06-02 12:01:20
Comments: I grew up eating dairy products and drinking milk several times a day. As I got into my teens I started feeling sick to my stomach all the time, and it went on for a few years that way. I would be so sick that it hurt to move, I missed out on a lot of teenage things because I was at home in bed. Doctors said that everything was normal, my diet was perfectly acceptable and no one knew why I would get so sick. Then one day I came across an article about milk that started to make me think about my diet. So I cut all dairy products out of my life, and what a pain in the butt that was! I had no idea that just about everything I ate had some sort of dairy product in it. Well, just a few weeks after the change, I wasn't sick anymore. My stomach doesn't cramp up as soon as I start to eat and I've lost some wieght. Thats all it took, no more dairy, and I'm healthy again. I wish the doctors could have seen that earlier. I am not allergic to dairy products, my body just can't tolerate them. Being milk-free is the best thing I ever could have done for myself! Milk DOES NOT do a body good. I do miss dairy products, and I've tried the soy and other non-dairy products, but I just couldn't stand to eat/drink them. It just doesn't taste right. My only question now is, what happens when I get pregnant? Do you know how much milk they tell you to drink when you get pregnant? And its not just you drinking it anymore, you're passing it to a child too. I just wish more Doctors knew and understood how bad milk really is. I think we'd all be a lot healthier and happier without Dairy products.

Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-06-02 08:51:17
Comments: Some people seem to be unable to grasp the figures (ie; the 53 slices of Bacon figures). Here down under we have "Lactose Free" milk, which contains LACTOSE. That's the Dairy Industry for you..... feeding us both CowMilk and BullSh!t. Then there's the "Skim Milk"..... ingredients listed as "Milk, Whole Milk, Skim Milk". Yeah, good one. There's no greater sucker than a milk drinker.

Name: Marcia
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-06-01 17:46:29
Comments: Robert.... First, I want to say that I enjoy your page very much, and I believe you are doing a public service by providing this research to people who wish to learn. It is unfortunate that there are people who are so threatened by the free expression of ideas and information that they feel they must attack your right to exist and present the information as you see it. As you have stated, each person is free to make their own choices, you are just presenting the information. I appreciate you. Also, what happened to the Daily Diary ? I miss reading it. Thank you. Marcia.

Robert ended his hungerstrike on Monay, the 29th of May... on day 205. All diary entries are now a part of the "Squirts" of NOTMILK wisdom at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html and he is now writing more of the daily tidbits.

His original columns are posted at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html

Regards...

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Erich Heino, yet again, and one last time
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: let's just say Germany
Time: 2000-05-31 14:56:28
Comments: Here's a list of the makeup of milk, taken from some website somewhere: 87.3% water (range of 85.5% - 88.7%) 3.9 % milkfat (range of 2.4% - 5.5%) 8.8% solids-not-fat (range of 7.9 - 10.0%): protein 3.25% (3/4 casein) lactose 4.6% minerals 0.65% - Ca, P, citrate, Mg, K, Na, Zn, Cl, Fe, Cu, sulfate, bicarbonate, many others acids 0.18% - citrate, formate, acetate, lactate, oxalate enzymes - peroxidase, catalase, phosphatase, lipase gases - oxygen, nitrogen vitamins - A, C, D, thiamine, riboflavin, others Looks pretty acceptable to me. Casein's just a protein with many uses, including adhesive. Now, let me indulge in NotMilkMan-style scare tactics. Water!!! Water is used for terrible things! Did you know that water is used to FLUSH TOILETS!!!! Do you want to drink toilet-flushing fluid!?!?!?!??? DON'T DRINK WATER!!! Did you know that the Fluid Academy of Teheran has recommended against drinking water?!??? Water is used as a solvent for terrible things like casein! Why would you drink this evil fluid.

Name: Abi Herron
Website:
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From: south england
Time: 2000-05-31 14:46:56
Comments: i think your page is great! i was vegetarian for about 19 years and felt great but since going vegan the change has been amazing. well i didnt do it for me i did it for the animals but i have lost weight, less PMS and my nails have grown really long and strong as i eat lots of calcium rich veggies. even if exculeding dairy/milk from my diet was harmful for me i would as i love animals but its so good not to drink it and i am glad others have seen the light....besides carob is nicer than chocolate anyday. and at easter i got non dairy easter eggs so what more could i ask for!!! if anyone wants some good recipies then email me keep up the great work, Miss Herron

Name: Avrum Bree
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: The East
Time: 2000-05-31 08:32:43
Comments: Churchill said, "A fanatic is someone who won't stop talking, and won't change the subject." It's amusing how people will find the most obscure topics to become fanatical about.

I think that the logic expressed below totally disarms your arguments. Take the cholesterol of 53 slices of bacon, divide it into the millions of glasses of milk consumed daily, and you've got a negligible amount of cholesterol. You've also totally ignored the undesputable scientific fact that milk is healthy for you.

Your inability to properly understand the what is said suggests the need for MORE, not less repetition.

You consider the health of 267 million Americans to be an "obscure" topic? Guess what, you are in the same leaking boat as those who promote milk, dairy, MSG, aspartame, and a number of other unhealthy substances.

Perhaps a reading problem, on unaccountable one? Nobody said that a million glasses of milk had the cholesterol of 53 slices of bacon. THREE GLASSES OF WHOLE MILK A DAY have that cholesterol equivalent of 53 slices of bacon... which adds up to the equivalent of over 19,000 slices of bacon a year. Statistics show the average American consumes MORE than three glasses of milk a day (or the equivalent in dairy). GOT DOC? Ask him if your body needs that cholesterol from dairy. If he says yes... then ask if it is OK to switch from milk to 53 slices of bacon each day and watch his reaction.

From "The East"? East of what? By the way... you may think you are "invisible" by providing a perhaps fake name, and no other information. Suffice it to say that you are using @home, and you are from the Redwood City, CA area.

You've also totally ignored the undesputable scientific fact that milk is healthy for you.

Really? What pro-dairy resource or dairy funded study would you like to quote?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Calla
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Toronto, Canada
Time: 2000-05-30 21:39:48
Comments: I have been a vegetarian for 20 years (i'm 35) but have just given up milk and eggs about 8 weeks ago. What a difference!!! I feel wonderful! After reading the material on your site, it's no wonder. I knew milk was not great, but I had no idea just how bad it really is. Unfortunately my 6 year old son LOVES milk and hates soy milk no matter how I try to disguise it. I will try your rice/coconut milk recipe on him this weekend. In any event, I just wanted to say thanks for the site. I have emailed links to friends with Crohn's and diabetes and hope they will read it and not think "oh man another vegan email from Calla the animal loving weirdo". :) Keep up the good work!!!!

You might remind them that HUMANS are animals, too! :-)

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Winnipeg
Time: 2000-05-30 09:37:31
Comments: You say that milk contains the fat of 53 slices of bacon. Since roughly 23 million slices of bacon are consumed in the US daily, this is a negligible number. I'll withhold judgement until you get your NOTBACON site up and running.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mike,

There are 270 million Americans. If your number is true, then the average American eats about one slice of bacon every 11.74 days. On the other hand, in the time it takes for the average American to eat just one slice of bacon, that same individual ingests (from milk and dairy products) the same cholesterol contained in 622 slices of bacon!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



No... "we" did NOT say that "milk" contains the fat of 53 slices of bacon.

What we "say" only reports the facts. We report that THREE GLASSES OF WHOLE MILK A DAY, the "recommended" daily amount, contains the CHOLESTEROL equivalent of 53 slices of bacon. That amounts to the cholesterol equivalent of 19,345 slices of bacon a year that add up to the equivalent of 1 million slices by the early fifties. IF you, or anyone, consumes the American AVERAGE daily amount of dairy (well over three glasses of milk a day) ... well... you take it from there, Mike.

What you do with the information we present... which is backed by a wide variety of credible resources, is YOUR problem. Withhold "judgement" as you will ... AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-05-29 10:46:11
Comments: I know I'm stooping to a personal attack, but I don't care...... If you visit Erich Heino's Web Page, at http://www.geocities.com/eheino99/ you may notice something very different to his NotMilk Guestbook posts....... the English/Spelling, perhaps? What's going on? Anyway, about 8 years ago I used to travel on the morning and evening Train to and from College (about 45 minutes journey). The whole time I would be doubled up in pain, and there were many days I wanted to kill myself to end the pain (the few times I was 100% intent on committing suicide I was so incapacitated I couldn't do it). Eventually, I gave up Dairy products (for ethical/moral reasons) and those pains disappeared..... all because I dropped Dairy products. Milk sure as hell wasn't doing my body any good.

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany, apparently
Time: 2000-05-28 04:15:01
Comments: OK, it's Heino yet again. I notice that at least one other person in this world, Penny, has a clue. Hurray! Anyway, I just noticed something. While listening to the Coast to Coast show (Art Bell's thing), I heard single-issue obsessives with large quasi-scientific vocabularies spouting data on various 'studies' which proved their points (usually with regards to alien visitation or inter-breeding with humans). Substitute 'anti-milk' for 'alien DNA', and I think you'd fit right in. Call them up, they'll probably slot you in between the hollow-earthers, and the bigfoot-is-a-time-traveller groups. Also, as for your claim that 'milk does NOT do the body any good', try this. Lock yourself in a room with no food, and lock one of your acolytes in another room with only unlimited milk. Who will survive longer? The only answer is: him, not you. Therefore, milk does do the body some good. Note: if you claim that you will survive on zero calories longer than someone on a just-milk diet, I suspect that even Art Bell would hesitate to interview you. He has his standards.

It is obvious you have not read anything on the WEB sites. To make it easier for you and your friend Penny your beverage of choice... MILK, has:

  • 59 hormones -- Worst? Perhaps the powerful IGF-1 growth hormone (think fast growing cancers)
  • Scores of allergens -- Worst? Probably casein (80% of the protein) Think glue! (powerful histamine or mucus maker)
  • blood -- Even under the best of conditions
  • feces -- Even under the best of conditions
  • fat -- Of the calories in whole milk 49% come from fat (35% for 2% milk)
  • cholesterol -- 3 glasses a day = the equivalent of 53 slices of bacon
  • herbicides -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
  • pesticides -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
  • dioxins -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
  • viruses -- (most likely many kinds of them)
  • up to 20,000,000 live bacteria per liter (FDA max limit)
  • up to 750,000,000 somatic (PUS) cells per liter (FDA max limit)
  • up to 52 different antibiotics (they only test for a few)
  • Perhaps some TB (bovine mycobacterium paratuberculosis, the bacterium linked to Johne's disease in cows and Crohn's disease in humans)
  • Perhaps some Prions (a crystal that acts like a virus - think mad cow disease, with a 5-30 years "incubation" for something that cannot be destroyed by 900 degree Celsius heat)

Sixty Percent of America's dairy cows have leukemia virus.

87% of milk is WATER (mother natures truly perfect drink).

The milk of each of the over 40,000 mammals on earth is formulated specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and immunoglobulins. In cow's milk the protein lactalbumin is considered a key factor in diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving infant children cows milk). Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used their MUST be an equal quantity of magnesium (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones). Milk has little magnesium.

80% of the protein in milk is casein. Milk can be considered as a "liquid meat", which, when added to all the OTHER protein in an average diet, may actually leach calcium from the bones. Countries with the highest intake of milk and dairy have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Milk moustaches = good bones are a milk industry 100% lie.

Mother-natures perfect milk-delivery system is directly from teet to mouth. When anything is exposed to air the oxygen in it CHANGES things. Metals oxidize (rust). Freshly sliced apples or pears turn brown. Paper does a slow burn. Milk not consumed via mother natures intended delivery system is automatically different.

There is no need in human nutrition for cow's milk. Dr. Spock (the famous baby doctor whose books have been outsold only by the bible) said it several years ago. Nor is the consumption of milk medically sound or desirable. Considering that milk and dairy plays a significant role in obesity, heart disease, cancer, asthma, diabetes, eczema, irritable bowel syndrome, leukemia, poor digestion, lactose intolerance (according to WHO 90% of world blacks are lactose intolerant), gas, bloating, behavioral problems, osteoporosis, and more.

Considering that cow's milk is a fluid from diseased animals that impacts heavily on human health ... it should NOT be considered a "taste to die for".

Guess what... neither YOU nor your friend Penny have even a CLUE to the truth. As to your silly remark about two people in different rooms... the milk and dairy industry SPRANG from the old European tradition of collecting UNCONSUMED milk (by the calf, of course) from the old 1-4 quart a day cow (now up to 55 quarts a day) and quickly making it into either butter, or hard cheese, as a HIGH FAT EMERGENCY FOOD SUPPLY FOR HARD TIMES! Most of the first wave of Pilgrims died the first winter... because they were forced to sell MOST of their butter to buy passage for the trip to American.

Of course the fellow consuming milk will survive... because it is EIGHTY SEVEN PERCENT WATER... mother natures truly perfect drink. How much do you pay for a gallon of tap water? How much do you pay for a gallon of milk? That 13 percent of substance that is 50% of fat in calories in saturated fats, provides the equivalent cholesterol of 53 slices of bacon (per three glasses of milk), and all those other "goodies"... is VERY EXPENSIVE POLLUTION!

I hope that the IGF-1 cancer fuel does not do YOU in before YOUR time... like it has me.

Bon appetite, Erich Heino

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-05-27 10:03:02
Comments: Erich Heino wrote "Also, you ever notice that the most pill-popping, vitamin-gulping, supplement-addicted people around are the vegetarians?" Well, let's see...... first, as already asked, are there any studies/figures that show this? Secondly, out of myself and my non-vegan family and friends, I am the one who is LEAST likely to take pills/supplements/drugs of any sort. But then Erich did say 'vegetarians', not 'vegans'....... And perhaps he ignores the fact that milk is so drug-laden??

Name: Penny
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Jersey
Time: 2000-05-26 21:22:54
Comments: I think that this page is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Your scientific stuides prove nothing; they are completely tailored to prove your point, and even at that the results are questionable. I fail to see how a rat becoming hyper and then calming down after drinking milk shows a connection between drinking milk and ADD. And if this "scientist" wins the Noble Peace Prize, I will be writing a very strongly worded letter to the committe who selects the winners. The only thing that your page has convinced me of it that you can't believe anything that is on the internet, because any random crackpot can put lies everywhere.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Penny,

The studies cited on my website are not "my" studies. Thousands of unbiased studies published in respected scientific peer-reviewed journals converge upon one conclusion: Milk does NOT do the body any good.

I agree with you about rat studies. Animal studies are only good for one thing. They provide research funds for scientists to torture animals, and perpetrate a system that ultimately betrays humans. We cannot extrapolate rat research to human physiology, and each animal study is a non-reliable fraud.

However, the ADD study was performed on humans. A morphine-type hormone in milk (casomorphin) has been associated with attention deficit disorder. When milk is removed from their diets, children with autism and attention deficit disorder often improve. This therapy is a successful alternative to ritalin treatment.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany
Time: 2000-05-25 19:46:37
Comments: Wow. When you dedicate your life to a single cause, you really go all out. Hmmm. Basketball superiority based on milk drinking or not. Bizarre. Absolutely bizarre. Also, invoking the name of Ralph Nader doesn't enhance your credibility any more than cozying up to the new-age crowd ("milk is like ... so bad for your chakras, man"). How about getting the support of the Flat Earth Society? Also, I enjoyed Scott Goldberg's logic - his friends won't agree to stop drinking milk, so maybe he's hanging around with the wrong friends. That's the kind of person who's attracted to whacky causes like your anti-milk crusade. Also, you ever notice that the most pill-popping, vitamin-gulping, supplement-addicted people around are the vegetarians? Hint: if you can't get all the nutrients you need from your daily diet (juicing 70 pounds of fresh vegetables everyday isn't normal), then start eating some meat, the way nature intended.

Dear Erich,

I was not aware that "most pill-popping, vitamin-gulping, supplement-addicted people around are the vegetarians," as you claim. Do you have a reference for that statement?

Vitaminbusiness.com website reveals:

"It's estimated that nearly 50 percent of Americans use vitamin supplements every day."

It is clear that those eating the Standard American Diet (the S.A.D. diet) need supplements! Meat eaters and Vegans have one thing in common. All humans need to consume essential amino acids, vitamins, and enzymes. Eating fresh fruits and vegetables remains the most efficient way of providing the body with its nutritional needs. Why not take the VEGPLEDGE and discover great health:

http://www.vegpledge.com

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey, Channel Islands
Time: 2000-05-24 18:01:31
Comments: Hi Robert,

I have been following your pages for quite some time now. I really admire the work you do and how persistent you are. It seems your message is finally making it big here in the UK. The Daily Mail (a very well respected and widely read newspaper) published a 6 page report (over a three day period)on the connection of cancer with the consumption of milk. A scientist called Jane Plant had cancer reoccur five times and was told she had only a few months to live. Being a scientist she couldn't accept that the rate in Japan and China was about 1 in 10,000 and in the UK 1 in 12. Also when Chineese people emigrated to the UK they too had similarly high rates as UK people do. This also seemed strange because a nuclear bomb was dropped on Hiroshima so if anything it would be expected that the rates of cancer would be higher in these areas. The report blames dairy products as the culprit and explains about IGF-1 and other hormones in milk that promote the division of cells and the growth of tumors. It's a very intersting read and she is bring a book out on 8th of June called "Your life in your hands". I think you should get in touch with her. The two of you would be expremely convincing and it would be great if you were to do radio/TV appearances together. You really should do this as her belief is the same as yours. Thanks again for the excellent info. Been dairy free for 3 years and fell great!


Name: Steve
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wilmington, NC
Time: 2000-05-24 15:25:05
Comments: Last year about 40,000 people in the US died from automobile accidents. Were they drinking milk at the time? I'll bet you a lot of them drank milk in the 24 hours preceding the accident. Be sure to post this on your website! DRINKING MILK CAUSES AUTO ACCIDENTS!! I'll also be willing to wager that drinking 6 times your body mass of milk each day will be linked to Cancer! - just ask those poor rats that are subjected to such tests... What's next? Nestle's Quik causes heart attacks???? PLEASE find something more constructive to do than tell us that something humans have used for thousands of years (more than that if you count human milk) is evil and will kill us. Give me some REAL milk mortality stats and maybe I'll listen!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Steve,

Last year 2,400,000 Americans died from heart disease.

Almost every scientific agency in America and almost every physician recognizes that saturated animal fat and cholesterol are contributing factors in the etiology of heart disease. The average American consumes 5 ounces of meat each day, and 29.2 ounces of milk and dairy products. In his/her dairy consumption, the average American will consume every day the equivalent cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon.

After 52 years, the average American will have consumed from dairy the same cholesterol contained in one-million slices of bacon. Doctors have no clue to the cause, prevention, and cure for heart disease.

Please join me and Ralph Nadar in three weeks at our Washington, DC biotechnology conference. We have a message for you. Drinking milk is "Unsafe At Any Speed!"

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Scott Goldberg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Long Island, NY
Time: 2000-05-24 12:27:59
Comments: Hey Robert, great site. I tried to get my friends to stop drinking milk, but they just wont listen. Maybe I'm hanging around the wrong friends? Anyway, I have been a vegeterian for quite some time and I haven't drank milk for a few months and I feel GREAT! Thanks to you and your book, I can get to the goal I want in weight-lifting and I can accomplish anything! P.S. Write back! GO KNICKS!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Scott,

The Knicks might have met their match in those "hicks" from Indiana. The Pacers may have the advantage because Reggie Miller and Rik Smits do not pose for milk mustache ads. On the other hand, Patrick Ewing did. Indiana outhustled and outplayed the Knicks in game one of their playoff round. The New York team looked sluggish. Casein, a milk protein will do that to you.

Please assist our team! When the series returns to New York, send free pizza's to the Indiana Pacers hotel! We can still win this thing.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 2000-05-22 19:31:06
Comments: I've seen it all now......You losers will do anything for press.

Name: Christine Hanusi
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Hamilton, NJ
Time: 2000-05-21 12:26:11
Comments: I viewed part of a segment on this topic on cable tv early Sunday morning, 5-21-00. I've been toying with trying to avoid eating meat for years but avoiding milk was never in the equation until recently. Being raised on all kinds of milk and meat products, it is difficult to virtually change everything you know about preparing and eating food. In addition, the alternatives in food stores are limiting. With most of our busy lifestyles, a change of this magnitude would require not only educating oneself on altervative foods and their preparation, but going from store to store trying to find theses alternatives. I'm not saying I won't attempt it, but it seems like alot of work. And, even if I change what occupies my household, every time I go to a restaurant, party, or picnic, I'd have to avoid most of the menu. My life would turn into "I can't have that". I will try it though. Maybe I'll feel so much better that it will be worth the trouble. I've tried to spread the word to family memebers who have children, and have met with resistance. I fear I am gaining the reputation of a overzealeous nutcase. I can understand why they feel this way. People are overwhelmed with conflicting information regarding diet - eat carbs/don't eat carbs, eat meat/don't eat meat, drink milk/don't drink milk. It seems we have our work cut out for us as the rest of the country shares in the cynicism of my friends and family. Today I will purchase my first carton of soymilk.

Name: Rich. Hunter
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Connecticut
Time: 2000-05-20 09:48:51
Comments: I learned of this site by watching a guest on Mary Mucci's MSGmetro's METRO HOLISTIC show on Saturday a.m., on May 20, 2000. Thankk you!

Name: Nolalee Schenk
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Nevada USA
Time: 2000-05-20 02:25:13
Comments: Milk should be banned!!!

Name: Frank Murphy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Glasgow, Scotland
Time: 2000-05-16 11:32:18
Comments: I've read this, and other linked sites, and it makes me sad, because I'm sure the mucoids in milk are what gives me my blocked up nose and deep chesty coughs when I get a cold, but I am hopelesly devoted to milk. Maybe it's a childhood thing, but I love nothing better than to come home after a long day, and grab a well-cold carton of skimmed milk, and polish the lot off. I couldn't, or wouldn't, like to imagine a world where I couldn't drink milk. Irn-bru and coke and all that jazz is OK, but fruit juice gives me heartburn, and I just can't bring myself to try substitute milk yet. Water is just not the same, even although Glasgow water from Loch Katrine is some of the best in the world. I am resigned to dealing with my nose and chest as a side-effect of drinking milk, just as I accept the bruises and cuts as a side-effect of playing rugby, and a splitting head and furry tongue as a side-effect of a night on the booze. I think we should tax meat, to make it a special treat, and so lower the amount, and raise the quality, of the amount eaten, and also, use the tax to raise living standards of the animals that are still bred for it. But, I think that is more of aproblem than dairy products, and, until everyone is better- educated in diet, we need to put problems with milk on a burner further back, and, although you'll probably disagree, actively promote it as a source of calcium and iron, which is more important for women, but do so in association with promotion of better living standards for the livestock. I think you have to look for better standards first, and get people used to thinking about the animals welfare, before leading them towards the end goal. Best of luck with educating the widert world, but I hope you don't hold it against me if I hope you're not too succesful with milk in my lifetime. I honestly would miss my carton greatly.

Should you become as unfortunate as I and get cancer please keep in mind that my cancer grows 4.5 times slower with no more IGF-1 from cow's milk and dairy in my system.

Should the abundance of saturated fats and cholesterol lead to heart disease... sorry... no easy salvation from that one.

I still miss the acquired taste of milk and dairy... but it is no longer a "taste to die for".

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany
Time: 2000-05-15 20:44:00
Comments: In reference to the message referencedin Record 1676 - I suspect that the reason humans are living such long healthy lives is precisely because we're smart enough to drink milk throughout our entire lives. Conversely, perhaps the cause of most diseases is living in houses and wearing clothes. Note that simply fixating on an idea (ie. milk is bad because I have arbitrarily decided that it must be) does not make it true. Furthermore, having the support of fringe vegans, crystal healers, spirit channelers, and all manner of refugees from the 1960s doesn't make your ideas seem more credible. Hey - did the residents of ancient Atlantis drink milk?

Dear Erich,

I do not imagine that the residents of Atlantis domesticated dolphins and whales so that they might drink their body fluids.

What is a fringe vegan? Are you a fringe lamb chop eater? Does brain food for you consist of animal brains?

In colonial times, the average American did not reach the half-century mark. As a matter of fact, an American child born in 1900 was expected to live for only 47.3 years (World Almanac, year 2000 edition).

The single greatest stride in longevity resulted from improvements in sanitation and safe water supplies. In the year 2000, nations not possessing these two resources experienced high mortality rates.

By 1920, the average American's lifespan jumped 14 pecent (54.1 years). By 1940, the expected lifespan jumped another sixteen percent (62.9 years). The average expected lifespan of a child born in 1960 jumped another eleven percent (69.7 years). By the mid 1980's, the 75 year lifespan was reached, and that number has remained relatively unchanged. Has mankind reached a limit?

I say NOT.

During the Renaissance, mankind was "plagued" by high infant mortality rates. Cows produced only one-quart of milk per day, and lack of refrigeration meant that dairy consumption was very low. Although infant mortality rates were high, history suggests that people lived to ripe old ages.

Leonardo DaVinci died when he was 67. Cervantes died at 69. Copernicus, 70. Galileo, 78. Donatello died when he was 80, and Bellini lived until age 86. Michaelangelo died when he was 89, and Titan lived until age 99.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rita
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-05-15 17:47:27
Comments: I like the slogan... Got milk? Get Pus. how gross... im never touching milk again. I cant stand to think that im drinking a cold glass of dead white blood cells held together with a dash of glue.

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany, originally
Time: 2000-05-14 22:41:23
Comments: If drinking the milk of other mammals is unnatural, and unnatural conditions are inherently bad, why is Dr. NotMilkMan living in a house, wearing clothes, drinking something other than surface water? Shouldn't he be eating raw, uncooked food, huddling naked in a cave, and avoiding all trappings of modern society? Or is cow's milk the only thing wrong with the entire world?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Erich,

Raw uncooked foods? What's wrong with that? Many people have returned to a raw food diet and enjoy better health as a result.

I love the comforts of home. Man has created tools and in doing so, has tamed his environment. We have gained much wisdom throughout the millennia.

Our ancestors knew the effects of food/fuel on our bodies. Twenty-first century man has become so sophisticated, that such wisdom is no longer a part of our psyche.

Why avoid the "trappings?" Our destiny is to utilize our natural resources and enjoy heaven on earth. Part of that destiny is to live over 100 years. By giving up just one food group, man will discover and enjoy his previously unattainable "Fountain of Youth."

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Missouri
Time: 2000-05-14 22:29:39
Comments: Hi Robert! Regarding milk and zits - I drink a lot of milk - eat all kinds of cheeses, butter, whipped cream on everything sweet - I'm seriously addicted to Blue Bunny Ice Cream drumsticks (one or two every day). And I have no zits - can't find one single pimple. What's up with that? If I quit dairy will my face break-out with pus-filled zits? Will I gain weight (I could use a few extra pounds)? Unfortunately, all those hormones didn't give me a Playboy Bunny body, but mine is slim and healthy. All these horrible things that are supposed to happen to people when they drink bovine body fluid just are not happening to me - am I a 'freak' of nature? If so - I'm a happy one - 'pus-tache', raging hormones and all!

NOTMILKMAN'S RESPONSE:

Dear Carla,

Oh, to be young again!

You, Carla, are no teenager! Your daughter goes to high school with others her age who have RHS (raging hormone syndrome). For teens, it's a blemish on their exteriors.

For you, it's your insides that concern me. You are a milk drinking, milk promoting dairywoman, and you've visited before...and I like your sense of humor.

By age 52 the average American will have consumed from milk and dairy, the equivalent cholesterol contained in 1,000,000 slices of bacon. Heart disease is America's number one killer, and I know you have a good spiritual heart, Carla, but your arteries should concern the two of us. Ease up on those dangerous animal fats, cholesterol, and powerful growth hormones.

Your exterior might resemble a shiny new Ferrari, but your insides may very well be a rotting Corvair -- "Unsafe at any Speed."

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: SHEREE BOTTE
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: EDISON NEW JERSEY
Time: 2000-05-14 14:45:34
Comments: SAW YOU ON TV AND WANTED MORE INFO. WISH YOU WERE SPREADING THIS MESSAGE OUT TO A GREATER POPULATION. AFTER ALL LOOK HOW THE DAIRY INDUSTRY SPREADS ITS MESSAGE.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sheree,

That's where you come in!

The dairy industry markets their myths with $500 million dollars of their money and hundreds of millions of dollars of goverment subsidies.

We have the INTERNET. Please help spread the message.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: M. D. Ballard
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Staten Island, New York
Time: 2000-05-14 08:46:30
Comments: I saw you on a cable station here in Staten Island on Sat. 5/13/00. I'm always happy to see people speaking Truth to Power!

Name: Katrina
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Tennessee
Time: 2000-05-13 15:13:19
Comments: I just wanted to say I love your site! Whenever I feel like jumping off the wagon, I come to your site, and remind myself why I am going vegan! I used to be such a cheese junkie. I thougth giving up dairy would be extremely hard. You know what? I hardly miss it at all. When you don't smoother your food with cheese and cream sauces, you actually get to taste the other food. My husband is in the military, and is going vegan with me. His PT scores have actually gone up, and he says he feels much better. (Although he alwasy has been pretty healthy). You know, it really strikes me as funny...I've been studing herbology and other natural remedies for about 5 years now, and eveything that I've come across says to cut back on animal products (especially dairy). Doesn't it occur to anyone that we are a sick nation? Diseases are contantly on the rise. Will everyone need to have a deadly or painfull disease before we look at our living and eating habits? I really applaud the work you are doing, Robert. Good luck with your efforts!

Name: Pat Spir
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ocala Florida
Time: 2000-05-13 11:49:43
Comments: Due to milk allergy, have avoided milk for years, forget to check fo it as ingredients in packaged foods. Look at others with horrible skin, and wonder why they have zits, and I don't. Great info, keep up the good work. I sent info from the article in Spread The Word to everyone on our email list.

Name: Grant Richmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minesota
Time: 2000-05-10 21:18:21
Comments: kewl

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-05-10 15:18:26
Comments: Bought & paid for? NO MORE. It is time we start supporting a candidate that will ensure that the 80% of americans who want our food labeled, get it. The father of labeling & public right's to know, is RALPH NADER. He is running real & strong. Nader has already earned 5% of the VOTING population's vote, so he is not last in the polls. Only the Minority of americans vote, since they are fed up with the candidates, and lack of democracy. The Nonvoting Majority will show for this one, and he could easily WIN. (Me included, So now i have to hurry to register to vote.) I will cast my ballot for someone i am for, and not for the "lesser of two evils" which is how i am told, most people have been voting. Abraham Lincoln, won with 39% of the votes in a four way split. We have a four way split now. This is our chance to get the democracy back. As Jim Hightower says, This guy has done more for the public in his lifetime than all the candidates put together. Robert you & him attend many meetings together. I think it is time to start getting the word out about his campaign. He is the only guy that will put a brake on the GE thing. By the way we can all sleep better at night knowing the GE salmon that will be on American's plates, not mine, next year will be sterile.Nader campaing needs volunteers. Thanks. www.votenader.com

Name: John McDaniel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maine, USA
Time: 2000-05-09 17:27:26
Comments: I heard about your site on the Howie Carr show. I drink some milk because I like the test of it and I don't want to lose the ability to digest it. I don't drink it very often though because it does seem a bit odd that we are adult mamals and we are drinking the milk of another species. I ruined my father's dinner once by mentioning to him that it would be less strange for us to drink gorilla milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Continue thinking, John. Why stop at gorilla?

How about a nice cold glass of human breast milk with your cookies?

Instinctively, you are aware that milk contains substances that should not be in your body.

From aardvark to zebra, drinking milk from any species of animal sounds disgusting, but humans subordinate their innate wisdom to brainwashing ads (billions of dollars of milk marketing over the past 75 years).

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tom Langan
Website:
Referred by: Lycos
From: Wisconsin
Time: 2000-05-06 21:21:50
Comments: Being a dairy producer, I find your site quite interesting. I would like to comment on a couple of things. First of all, I can virtually garantee that there are next to NO antibiotics in the milk. We do occasionally find it necessary to treat a cow with antibiotics to help her get over a case of mastitis. We only do this on our family farm after first trying to treat the case with probiotics - all natural remedies. When we do use antibiotics, we must send a sample of milk in to our processor to have it tested before we resume milking her with the rest of the herd. Each farm's milk is sampled when the hauler picks it up. Also, each load of milk (from several producers) is tested for antibiotics before the truck is unloaded. If the load is tested positive, then each farm's milk is tested to determine where it originated. The entire load of milk is then discarded and the offending producer is then billed for the entire load which can amount to several thousand dollars. This is a very good incentive for us as producers to keep antibiotics out of the milk we ship. Next, the point you raise about our children reaching sexual maturity earlier cannot be blamed on hormones in the milk. Children have been reachind sexual maturity earlier and earlier for the past 150 years - long before rBST came along. This is simply due to better overall nutrition, plain and simple. Believe me, I hope your attempts to eliminate rBST are successfull! I don't use it myself just because I believe it will only add to the dairy surplus and lower my milk price. Some food for thought....

More and more dairy farmers are supporting Mr. Cohen.

He says, "I will be appearing in Washington with (hopefully) 1000 dairy farmers, Pete Harden, Ralph Nader, etc. on June 17th.

Each truck driver only tests for the presence of four antibiotics, while many dozens more are in use.

Consumers Union and the New York Times tested independently selected milk samples and found the presence of 52 different antibiotics in the milk."

Mr. Cohen can be contacted via Email or call him at 1-201-871-5871

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Glenn Kr Hansen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: University of Trondheim, Norway
Time: 2000-05-06 14:02:21
Comments: Hi! I live in the country that drinks most milk in the whole world pr sitisen. It can even be though to be a nomilk-person. If u say that milk is bad for u, others get angry at u for saying so. It realy hurts their feelings or something. It is sick how the milkindustry is working. It`s good to have people like u to put some light on things. Thank u!

Name: June Bird
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 2000-05-06 01:14:15
Comments: Please come along to http://www.animal-lib.org.au/interviews and see what some rich, famous, talented and incredibly good looking people have to say about milk and meat consumption!...June Bird...xxxx

Name: george
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Palo Alto, CA
Time: 2000-05-05 23:06:02
Comments: Great book, a real page turner. I'm doing a speech for my speech class @ SJSU and it's called: Milk, Stop the Horror. I haven't had liquid milk in years, and I am pretty much down to ice cream and cheese on occasions - I just never felt good after eating eating most milk products so i just fell out of the habit. But until reading your book, I never really knew just HOW AWFUL milk stuff is for people. The hardest thing to do will be to find *yummy* cheese substitues :^) Thank you SO much for your hard work and dedication. Please take care of yourself so you can continue to sound the battle cry! -george

Name: Sally Ullstrup
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Arizona
Time: 2000-05-04 19:41:30
Comments: I stopped drinking milk three years ago after being a two-gallon-of-skim-a-week-aholic. i have never looked back. I am only more encouraged when reading info on websites such as yours. Thank you for all your hard work and efforts made to help other ignorant people understand that we are not meant to suck juices out of a cow's teet. MILK SU_KS!!!!

Name: '
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-05-03 22:04:21
Comments: Wow you do tell alot of facts about milk , but you only seem to tell enough about milk to scare the hell out of somone.When you say that all these things that are in milk such as all 59 hormons, bactera ,blood,pus,and pest and herbicides,ect. you dont give any figures or how much of each item is in a gallon of prossed milk.You can say that these items are in milk and i guess you cant be called a lier.But you wouldnt it sound better if you would say how much or what the % of each one of these things are in milk, what effects they can have on you , and how much dairy products you would have to consume in a days time for it even to have any effect on you?Isn't igf-1 a normal component in in blood and other body fluids?Isn't the amount of igf-1 in 1.5 litres of milk less than 0.1% of the amount our body produces each day?It would sound so much beter if you would give a few more facts and actual test results rather than saying ,yes these things are in milk. But my question is , is there realy enough of them in milk to hurt you?

Sigh! When are you pro-milk industry plants going to get the guts to be responsible for your words? Most of your ilk provide no means for communications... but you didn't even provide a fake name!

"how much of each item is in a gallon of prossed milk"

When a toxins or poison do CUMULATIVE damage... how much from nasty stuff like arsenic or cyanide is "too much"?

Read the numbers on obesity, heart disease, cancer, osteoporosis, diabetes, asthma, behavioral problems and more... and answer your own questions. Especially so, when you take into account that the USDA food pyramid suggests that 8% or less of daily intake be from cow's milk and dairy... AND OTHER FATTY FOODS, and statistically Americans consume almost 40% of their diets in only cow's milk, dairy, and its derivatives.

"Isn't igf-1 a normal component in in blood"

Of course. But mother nature is smart (and kind) enough to STOP PRODUCTION of it when our needs have been fulfilled. Any additional amount simply adds fuel to a flickering cancer fire... which makes IGF-1 a KEY FACTOR in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate, lung and colon cancers!

As to your "is there realy enough of them in milk to hurt you?" I suggest that our tragic health statistics on the obese and sick shout "YES!".

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nameless,

The amount of "free" IGF-I in an adult human is equal to the amount of IGF-I in one 12-ounce glass of milk, about 3000 nanograms.

In her lifetime, a human female will naturally produce the equivalent of one tablespoon of estrogen. Hormones work on a nanomolecular scale. That is to say, only a very small amount measured in billionths of grams is necessary to exert powerful biological effects.

Like a key fitting into a lock, IGF-I in humans and cows is identical. The same key opens the door to powerful growth effects. IGF-I has been identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of every human cancer.

Nearly one out of three Americans will die of cancer. Nearly two out of three Americans will die of heart disease. Avoid those dangerous animal fats and cholesterol, and don't ingest powerful growth hormones!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-05-03 19:21:06
Comments: They must be camouflaging these GE articles in the NYT since i missed the recent one. I did just catch NPR saying how the President is starting a campaign to reassure(brainwash) the American public as well as the Europeans that GE food is safe. Also claiming government is looking at the environmental impact which had been ignored until now.(That is reassuring right there!) Plus, wasn't it wonderful that manufacturers now have the option to Voluntarily label their products! Finally something about reviewing the product for 120 days before it gets thrown out to the public...etc.(missed some here.) I can't wait to see who will be the first to put In big bold letters "Our product is GE" This sounds like a joke. I can just imagine the add campaigns, i would love to see suggestions from people. Who will be first, any bets? On another urgent note, anyone interested in helping a farming family avoid continued Hexazione contamination can. Write an email before the 8th of March See www.getipm.com, enter, & see action alert. It is a compelling story. A few e-mails could change their future & their health. Also let the chemical board know that you support Organic blueberries. Thanks

Name: Larry Boies
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Seattle, WA
Time: 2000-05-03 01:17:51
Comments: I heared you on the Ernie Brown show, on KOMO radio. I am very interested in your research with dairy products. I am (57) years old, and have realisticly consumed an average of 3 to 6 gallons of milk per week, my entire life. I know there have been days when I have consumed 2 gallons. I believe, I am addicted to it. I believe your research, and am going to take your advice, and quit all dairy products for a week. I would like to quit for a month, I'll try for a week at a time. I have a (20) year old daughter who has all kinds of aller gies, and was diagnosed with a milk allergy when she was a little girl, we took her off milk (dairy prod.) for a month. She had quite a change, she also quit wetting the bed, and she was told by the naturepath to only have a little dairy products every 3 or 4 days. She has done fairly well, but now suffers from asma. Please excuse my spelling. Anyway, I am going to coppy some of your info for her and myself, she now has children, they are having bad health problems. Thank you so much, for your research, and fell free to E-mail me at any time. Sincerelly, Larry Boies

Name: Clara Libatter
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Uruguay
Time: 2000-05-01 14:48:25
Comments: I love this site because it gave me peace of mind. I´m vegetarian and started a vegan diet 4 months ago. Since I´m 43 and female, guess what the doctor told me about osteoporosis...

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-04-30 23:27:29
Comments: "Everyone has the right...to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas through any media, regardless of frontiers." Article 19 Universal Declaration Of Human Rights

The flip side of that is:

You can lead a horse to water.. but you cannot make it drink!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dave and Carmen,

Dave's response reminds me of Dorothy Kilgallen's famous retort aimed at the ignorant.

Kilgallen was one of the panelists on "What's My Line," and she was also a columnist and great wit. When asked to define 'horticulture,' she responded:

You can lead a whore-to-culture, but you can't make her think.

There are millions of bright people who have had the veil of ignorance placed over their vision by a 50 year media assault. These people would be repulsed by the thought of drinking milk from 42,999 species of mammal, but from the cow it sounds delicious.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: susie garren
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: CA
Time: 2000-04-30 20:58:13
Comments: i commend all your efforts & research. it's up to us to spread the word & get it through their thick shells. i suggest to enclose more information on the harm it brings the animals as well as humans.thank you.

Name: rochelle newton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: new york
Time: 2000-04-29 18:46:32
Comments: You people s*ck. Have you really thought about what life would be like without milk? There would be no ice cream or cheese or what would you drink with your cookies? Pop? Oh and that is so healthy. The majority of the additives and chemicals you speak of are naturally in milk but have also been added by those of us whose lives are devoted to the dairy industry. Why don't you take up a real cause or atleast learn a few facts about the one you have chosen!!!! I hope you all die from milk withdrawl and don't you dare have any ice cream this summer when it is over a 100 degrees outside. CHEERS TO YOU ALL AS I DRINK A GLASS OF MILK THAT MY COWS PRODUCED TODAY AND I'LL HAV ETHE LAST LAUGH WHEN YOU ARE ALL DEAD AND GONE!!!!!

Enjoy the fruits of your self-imposed ignorance... for they will be many!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Amanda Murphy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Florida
Time: 2000-04-29 16:03:54
Comments: This website is very good. You could tell that you put alot of hard work into it, but not drinking milk is not healthy or inhumane. To get rid of the diease or what ever the cow might have they pasturize the milk. Didn't you ever drink milk?? Please answer my questions with the e-mail address above...

My... my. You didn't read ANYTHING, did you!

The truth is there... over 400 WEB pages (around 2200 MORE
pages then are in Mr. Cohen's book... and all FREE!

Forget what you THINK you know and READ (for your health!).

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster



NOTMILKMAN Comments:

Dear Amanda,

Read a doctor's advice to his patients:

KRADJIAN http://www.afpafitness.com/milkdoc.htm

I have written thousands of things. Tell me one that you disagree with
in any of my hundreds of columns:

COLUMNS http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html

How about just one thing you disagree with in the following:

CALCIUM http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html
DIABETES http://www.notmilk.com/deb/011099.html

Robert Cohen


Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 2000-04-27 09:27:19
Comments: Obnoxious, desperate dairy: at a bus stop here in DC, one of those huge ads that reads: "400 homers, 3000 hits, how many glasses of milk? Thanks Cal." Folks, if this kind of blatant stuff outrages you too, I would like to suggest adbusters.org for some good grassroots ideas on what they call "culture jamming"!

Name: Christina
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: NJ
Time: 2000-04-26 22:04:08
Comments: This web-site is one of the best Anti-dairy milk sites ive seen yet.Keep up the good work.

Name: russell hollis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: vermont
Time: 2000-04-25 23:01:33
Comments: wonderful resource... i will share this site with all my friends. thank you.

Name: joanmcgovern
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Santa Fe, N>M
Time: 2000-04-25 15:29:11
Comments: my friend SteveN James told me to look you up. Thanks

Name: Bryn Thomas
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Woodstock, NY
Time: 2000-04-24 22:06:36
Comments: i was at the potluck in kingston, ny and truly enjoyed everything that you had said. i had went vegan a week or so before that because i have endometriosis and was told that it might help. i was totally struggling because i had been an absolute cheese and ice cream addict and you really inspired me. i've been strick vegan for about a month now and recently had some ice cream and threw up because of it. it's awful about what the fda is doing and i totally respect your work. i'm 16 and have been vegetarian for 6 years and veganism is definetly the way to go. all i know is that my kids (wayy down the road) will definetly be vegan because there is no question in my mind that it's better for you. my energy has boosted and i feel like a new person. thanx for the inspiration. keep on fighting those fda @#&*@'s!!!---*bryn*

Name: Samuele Mazzolini
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Italy
Time: 2000-04-24 17:10:35
Comments: We have to fight against the machine!!! The machine is USA,Monsanto,Mc Donald's,Nestlè,... RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!!!! Samuele Mazzolini

Name: Frannie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Canada
Time: 2000-04-22 09:15:31
Comments: I am 13 years old and I heard about this site from my mother. We have both decided to stop drinking milk after we read this. I also have asthma and it says in here that it is better for asthma if you do not drink milk. Plus all the other reasons why we shouldn't drink it, like the infection from the cows in the milk, now that just totally grossed me out! Well, thats about it, thanx! oh ya, and please visit my page and sign my guest book and e-mail me, thanx!

Name: Frannie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Canada
Time: 2000-04-22 08:47:55
Comments: This site is very helpful and gives alot of great information, I enjoyed reading everything thank-you!

Name: Rachel
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-04-20 23:35:32
Comments: This is a really good page. I'm vegetarian and against animal cruelty, but I was wondering something. My cousin is a farmer and he has cows. He has organic milk and I know he doesn't kill them after he milks them (or whatever). Is it still right for me to drink it?

You are still "attached" to the GREATEST myth of the
20th century.

Cow milk and dairy are NOT appropriate for humans!

Doctor Spock said about the same thing before he died.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Kristina Kruzan
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Seattle, WA
Time: 2000-04-20 17:28:56
Comments: I've read your guest book off and on with a mixture of pleasure, frustration, laughter and disgust. It's wonderful to know that you are receiving a wide range of people on your site- If they think about this issue for just 2 minutes, that's *something* more than if they didn't. We have to start somewhere!

I volunteer for a breastfeeding advocacy organization, http://www.promom.org. I'll be resigning from the Board of the Directors this term but I've spent 3+ wonderful years with them.

Your website really broadened my view about 'milk' and what it means to our children, and our culture. I'm suprised more breastfeeding organizations don't make this association and act on it. We ask that women breastfeed their children and not give them formula which comes from cows- yet when the children hit a year old, we have no issue with giving them cow's milk. Something is wrong with this picture. The average weaning age of a child is 4+ years old, and we who work in BF advocacy hope that each child is breastfed for as long as possible. Yet we don't question when our milk is effectively replaced in our child's diet by that of a cow, whether it happens at birth, 1 year, 3 years or 5 years of age.

I would like to see the 'notmilk' crowd and the 'probreastfeeding' crowd collaborate at some point. I envision a joint effort at changing the minds of our legislators about what we're putting into our bodies, and what we're choosing to feed our children.

Feel free to email me at magicke@hotmail.com

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kristina,

Human breast milk is the PERFECT substance for a nursing baby human.

We support your organization, and have a link to "101 Reasons to Breastfeed Your Child" on our website:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Inessa Vishnevkine
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 2000-04-19 22:18:41
Comments: This is a really great website! I became a vegan about a month ago and it's quite rewarding! Not only are animal products unhealthy, but they hurt animals! Cows live their lives in misery to make milk for people. They should not suffer so much, just to feed us. We have so many things to eat besides dairy - why contribute to animal cruelty? "The human body has no more need for cows' milk, than it does for dogs' milk, horses' milk, or giraffes' milk"

Name: Alex
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-19 18:27:38
Comments: Milk is important to your body and calcium helps you grow stronger. Hope you al morons get week in the bones when you get old... IF you get old.

Too bad you chose not to read any of the 300+ pages
(about 2500 printed sheets of paper). It might have
keep you healthier... longer.

Dave Rietz, Webmaster

Name: Kraighe MacCoinnich
Website:
Referred by: ust Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-19 08:41:12
Comments: Daphne said: "But if you eat it all the time it doesn't do anything to you." I ate it all the time and it made me SO sick (everyday the dairy induced stomach cramps had me wanting to kill myself, but I couldn't even do that as it was so painful). So what Daphne says is a load of bullcrapt, basically...... just like the Dairy industry; they feed us Cow Milk and Bull Crap.

Name: LC
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Canada
Time: 2000-04-18 15:29:34
Comments: A couple months back I read some articles about why milk isn't good for you. Since then, I have not drank on sip of milk. Although I do sometimes idulge in dairy products such as ice cream or cheese on my pizza, there are some that I love, but have completely given up. Thanks to articles and sites like yours for pointing me in the right direction!

Remember that the nasty stuff in cow's milk is TIMES ONE.

It takes:

EIGHT pounds of milk to make one pound of Sherbet
TEN pounds of milk to make one pound of hard cheese
TWELVE pounds of milk to make one pound of ice cream
TWENTY ONE pounds of milk to make one pound of 100% fat BUTTER

You guessed it! "X" times whatever in every bite.

By the way... why are so many folks afraid to provide a valid Email address?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Alicia Aguirre
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Madrid, Spain.
Time: 2000-04-18 10:37:52
Comments: Hello again. A few weeks ago I signed your guestbook but didn't dare leave my email address. To tell you the truth, I saw so many infuriated people insulting you and the contents of this page that I thought I had better not leave it, just in case anybody decided to write me a similar "love letter". But hey, who cares? I'll handle them if they do. My email is aliciaaguirre@hotmail.com and if you want to read what I wrote, it's on record nº 1617 (not that it's specially interesting). In the meantime, I'm sending the address of the Notmilk page to everybody I know here in Spain and abroad. Bye for now!
We appreciate your courage, Alicia, and thank you for your support.

The beauty of Email is that there is always the DELETE button.
At worst... one can always "filter out" the persistent unwanted stuff.

I see you are from beautiful and historic Madrid. My wife Isabel was born Jerez de la Frontera... and I discovered her in Cadiz. I stole her from Spain 39 years ago :-)

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Danyelle Weiss
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 2000-04-17 13:27:55
Comments: I have been a vegetarian for about a year, and just recently converted to becoming a vegan. Although, I have never missed meat, I do miss foods like cheese and ice cream. Everytime I have a craving, I look for a website like yours to keep my personal mission on track. I was very interested in your article on casein, being an asthmatic, I am anxious to see if my condition changes in the coming dairy-free months ahead! Thank-you! Danyelle Weiss

Go to http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html
and read about Fo-Jo... and similar articles.

Dave Rietz, Webmaster.


Name: DAphne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 2000-04-17 09:42:46
Comments: I don't know if I could live without milk. If I did go without it for a week and then ate a lot i probably would get sick because my body wouldn't be used to it. It would be like that with anything. But if you eat it all the time it doesn't do anything to you.

As an ex-dairy lover/user for 60 years I do very well without it. More to the point, my terminal prostate cancer grows FOUR TIMES SLOWER than when I consumed dairy!!!

How you can assume that 59 hormones, the equivalent cholesterol of 34.5 slices of bacon a day (IF you have no more than three glass of milk a day), 49% of calories from saturated fats, a steady influx of a powerful histamine (mucus maker), and a daily bombardment of virus, bacteria, herbicides, pesticides, dioxins, residue of up to 52 antibiotics, and more... "doesn't do anything to you" is beyond me.

Enjoy... for less time than you were allocated. I did, and I have paid dearly for my misplaced trust.

By the way... will you ever muster up the integrity to be responsible for your words? GOT EMAIL?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: michael e. chaplinsky
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: pennsylvania
Time: 2000-04-16 23:04:45
Comments: After reading all of the articles for the anti milk society, I am beginning to realize something: Big Business is Bad Business. I am an addisonian, i have no adrenals. I was raised on a diet high in milk products, although I now do not consume milk in the quantities I did as a child. I do however, use Creamer in my coffee, and eat a fair amount of cheese. This would call for some massive overhaul of my eating habits to remove all traces of Casein, and other dairy related products. My health has been a sour issue since 1975, and now I'm wondering (not paranoia)if this country's lust for profits hasn't made me who I am today. I think maybe we all should adopt a nonmilk day ( like the smokeouts so common today) to send a message to the lawmakers, and maybe then they might listen. Also, is is possible that CJD in humans is disguised as Alzheimers Disease, there is a striking similarity of afflections. This leaves a lot to ponder, I wouldn't doubt it for a moment. Thankx for your forum, i appreciate the chance to comment. Thank You, Michael E. Chaplinsky

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Michael,

The human form of mad cow disease is called CJD, or Cruetzfeld-Jacob disease. Cruetzfeld and Jacob were two physicians who worked with Dr. Alzheimer, and all three specialized in brain diseases leading to dimentia.

At times, CJD is behaviorally similar to Alzheimer's. However, neurologists are able to diagnose the differences...if they are "looking." Brain wave patterns differ, and simple blood tests can identify a patient with CJD.

One area of concern to me is when a patient has Alzheimers, and then gets CJD. Alzheimers is not pleasant. Quite often, death becomes a welcome relief to many years of suffering. In the case of CJD, onset of death after the first symptom is rapid, often lasting six months or less. Rarely, if ever are autopsies performed upon Alzheimer's patients.

One notable exception provided an enormous surprise, and a dire warning for Americans. Scientists at a Pennsylvania University have 120 brains in their depository. These brains are from patients who supposedly died from Alzheimers. A recent examination of those brains revealed that nearly ten percent actually died from CJD and not Alzheimers.

Drink milk and eat flesh from diseased animals and you might one day find yourself with the human equivalent of bovine spongioform encephalitis.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dwayne Bassett
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Atlanta, GA
Time: 2000-04-16 20:36:04
Comments: How can an individual become involved on a "grass roots" level or support the education process through this organization?

All US Citizens have the same options.

* Write to the FDA and let them know of your concerns.

Commissioner Jane Henney
Food & Drug Administration
Parklawn
5600 Fishers Lane
Rockville, MD 20857

Stephen F. Sundlof, D.V.M., Ph.D.
Director, Center for Veterinary Medicine
HFV1
7500 Standish Pl.
Rockville, MD 20855

* If you think there is fraud... contact the US DoJ

U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

* Write your congressional reps with your concerns.

US Congress Search

* Tell your family, friends, co-workers, PTA, Church groups... and have them pass around URL's (notmilk.com and hungerstrike.com), and invite discussions and action on the subject.

* Write or call your local media (Radio, TV, Newspapers)

* Inform your supermarket managers of your concerns, and inform him/her you are one of many who will stop buying products that use questionable substances (rbGH laced milk and dairy). * Return products for the same reason and request a full refund.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Tutu
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-16 15:48:11
Comments: Great site!! Keep the good work up... People who enjoyed visiting this site may also find the following site interesting: http://whistleblowers.freehosting.net

Name: Jessica Semar
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Cary
Time: 2000-04-15 23:46:55
Comments: I found your site to very helpful and important. I now have information to give to others to prove to them why they shouldn't drink milk and eat meat. Your insight is very important for people to read, and I thank you for caring about others.

Name: Pam
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ireland
Time: 2000-04-15 21:13:07
Comments: Thank you for taking the time and trouble to create this wonderful site. I have long been aware of how bad milk is and wanted to talk about this at a public speaking group that I am in. Your wonderful site provided me with loads of information to qualify my arguments. Everyone was so impressed (and shocked). Keep up the good work. I was able to give many people your website address and I hope they log on and learn. Again thank you, Pam.

Name: Jean
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: North West
Time: 2000-04-15 04:02:52
Comments: I am a parent to five dairy free children. I am sickened at our public schools for pushing dairy and hormone laced food products onto innocent children, especially those whose choices have been taken from them through the "free" lunch program. As a comparative to my children and those with daily dairy consumption, my children are healthier, and not surprising more emotionally stable as altered foods are not wreaking havoc on thier endoctrine systems...

Name: Starleen
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Washington State
Time: 2000-04-15 00:01:06
Comments: I want to thank you for doing what you are doing. Although I am a major dairy eater and drinker and always have been I am giving it up for my health.

Name: Dave Wilbur
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Missouri
Time: 2000-04-14 18:09:39
Comments: Does government prefer healthy money to healhy people? They published a booklet titled: KEEPING OUR MONEY HEALTHY where they said their UNLIMITED money would keep its value "if there were fewer people biding against each other". Do cancer and other diseases leave fewer people to bid against each other? For this booklet, the Library of Congress Catalogue Number is: 60-14368 / Revised, January 1979 It was published by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and was out of print but it may have been reprinted.

Most certainly fewer citizens will keep the Social Security system
in better shape...

Name: Maggie Carson
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 2000-04-13 20:29:49
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I commend you on the your strength and selfless actions on the part of the American people. If some of your guests here could only begin to understand the power of the conglomerates that you are up against and the danger of knowing their 'truths', they would surely understand all of this easily. Unfortunately, it has always taken just one voice in the darkness to make all the differance in the world. Keep the faith, Mr. Cohen, the real truth ALWAYS reveals itself.

Thank you!


Name: Daphne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 2000-04-13 09:39:29
Comments: You said that milk causes early puberty in teenagers in the United states, I don't think it is because of milk. Teenagers in the U.S. eat more and have more nutrition than people in China. Therefore teenagers grow faster in the U.S. than in China. Puberty comes when you are at a certain weight, since teenagers weigh more earlier in age here than in China they go through puberty earlier. I think you are just twisting the facts around to make them say what you want them to. You say milk causes diarrhea and constipation. When people go on vacation thay drink water from that place, that could be one of their problems. I really doubt that ice cream causes constipation.I drink milk and eat ice cream all the time and I am never constipated. I drink usually about 3 or 4 glasses of milk each day and I don't have any of these diseases.

Please get your facts straight!

Mr. Cohen didn't say "milk causes early puberty"... rather, a detailed report on the Japanese following their society after being concurred... contains that information. JUNK SCIENCE VS. TRUTH ABOUT EARLY PUBERTY FROM MILK details that feature of milk from simple statistics.

"You say milk causes diarrhea and constipation"

Try a simple test... "Daphne" (if that is your name)... and let your OWN body tell you about cow's milk and dairy. For ONE WEEK... consume NO milk or dairy (and this will be very difficult... as dairy is everywhere!). You will have to read labels... to eliminate EVERYTHING with anything "caseinate" in it, anything with WHEY in it, and anything that uses milk, cheese or butter in it as either an ingredient OR as part of the preparation (such as frying something in butter).

Then... on the EIGHTH day pig out. Have two or more slices of pizza with LOTS of cheese, wash it down with a malt, milkshake or glass of milk, and top off this tasty treat with lots of ice cream.

Then... unless you are too embarrassed to tell the world about it... come back and give us full putrid details on the "aftermath". Should you work up the courage to do this... perhaps you will become honest, forthright and accountable enough to provide a valid EMAIL address that will allow others to express their minds to YOU!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster



Name: Adam Simpson
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: London
Time: 2000-04-13 07:25:14
Comments: I first found out about the problems of milk through Maximuscle company. I was wondering, can acne/spots be one of the side effects through eating dairy produce? This is the main reason i have cut my dairy intake. Please someone advise me on this!!! ferret@adam21.fsnet.co.uk

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Adam,

In England you call them "spots," and in America we call'em "zits." Either way, these oily/greasy pus-filled pimples contain dead white blood cells, the same thing that makes milk what it is.

Eliminate pus with hormones, fat, and cholesterol (milk) and your complexion should be rosy. Attend a meeting of your local VEGAN society and note how smoothie and beautiful are the faces of its members. Then go to a meeting of beefeaters anonymous, and note the lumpy skin, powerful bad breath, and obnoxious body odors.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



Name: Russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-12 23:43:36
Comments: All you people care about is selling your stupid book. It dosnt have anything to do with milk just putting money in your pockets.

Yet another wrong guess, Russ.

There are over 400 WEB pages on www.notmilk.com
and www.hungerstrike.com that when combined have
more information than there is in the 316 page book...
AND IT IS ALL FREE!

By the way... books are not stupid. Stupid people are stupid.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: april
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: mi
Time: 2000-04-12 21:10:03
Comments: hi. i just wanted to say that i think this is a great site, i've learned A LOT. right now i'm working on a research paper about milk and advertising, so this site has been a great deal of help. (-: i had one question. i was trying to find the answer on your site, but my eyes got tired after the first 50 or so of the pages (wow!). and i can't remember if this is information the mr. cohen was denied by the FDA and monsanto in that report. so i was hoping you could just answer it for me. (pretty pretty please!) anyway, my question concerns that study with the rats getting cancer. i was just curious how much of the stuff the rats were given. like, was it massive doses, or was it about the same percentage as found in milk? i'm curious because i've been learning a lot about cancer and the "politics of cancer" along with this milk study, and from what i've learned, a little bit of a "bad thing" sometimes isn't harmful. even consuming like too much vitamin C can be harmful at extremely high doses. so i was just curious if they gave the rats a reasonable amount that might be exposed to humans or if they gave it to them in mammoth sized portions. i greatly appreciate your time if you can answer this question. keep up the good work. (-:

Name: michelle brown
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Ogden. Utah
Time: 2000-04-12 20:14:50
Comments: I'm vegan and you should be to! All of you reading this!

Name: Ashley Faith
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Chicago,Illinois
Time: 2000-04-12 17:45:53
Comments: I haven't really browesed the site yet but it looks like a nice site.

Name: Denae
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-12 09:15:27
Comments: Since when is lying suitable for family viewing? I notice you made no comment to the truth that bst is a natural horomone in dairy cows. I think people who are against milk and meat should be put on a list and when the world becomes over populated and their isn't enough food to feed everybody the people on that list should be the first to starve.

As to your comment on lying... well, you will have to take that up with the likes of Clinton and all his buddies, Monsanto and their buddies, the FDA and USDA and their buddies, the Fluid Milk Processors and their PR folks... because we don't deal in lies.

There are over 300 pages on www.notmilk.com and over 100 pages on www.hungerstrike.com Your assignment is to find anything you can prove to be a lie... and present YOUR impeccable data to refute what we present as the truth.

Monsanto spent half a billion dollars inventing a Frankenstein version of BST (rbST) with five nasty errors in it. So why is it necessary to comment on the obvious? Of course BST is "natural". That is precisely why cow's milk is so dangerous... because that translates to INSULIN-LIKE GROWTH FACTOR ONE (IGF-1), a powerful growth hormone that is IDENTICAL between cow's and humans. It was designed to make a newborn GROW FAST. What do you suppose it does for humans... especially adults?

That normal IGF-1 is present in EVERY sip of milk and bite of dairy. Cow's shot up with Posilac have up to 80% more of it in their milk. I have terminal cancer... and when I had no idea concerning the WHOLE TRUTH about cow's milk and dairy.. and consumed too much of if (typical American diet).. my cancer grew with a 1.5 point PSA rise PER MONTH. Now that I have abandoned all milk and dairy the rise is a much slower 0.3 points per month. For me...and perhaps other cancer victims... eliminating dairy means a longer life!

Armed with the truth, that was consciously withheld from me for most of my 60+ years by both industry and the government, I decided almost three years ago that cow's milk and dairy... which taste GREAT (an acquired taste, by the way) were NOT a "taste to die for".

As to wishing people who disagree with you ILL WILL... well, that says a lot about your character. Perhaps you should become pen pals with Saddam Hussein?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster



Name: Mary Sutton
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: California
Time: 2000-04-11 18:13:11
Comments: I gave up milk over a year ago. My incidences of asthma and allergic reactions have significantly reduced since then. It is encouraging to find I can IMPROVE my health in middle age; usually all you get to celebrate are new dis-eases. After reading some of the information on the www.notmilk.com website, I will be even more careful to purge dairy and meat products from my diet. I can also understand why European countries (and others) do not wish to import American bred beef -- why would they if it is laced with antibiotics, steroids, and growth hormones?

Name: Rashmi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: India
Time: 2000-04-11 16:11:36
Comments: Hi, I read the disadvantages of milk yesterday in www.rediff.com (http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/apr/11inter.htm) and Indian Express newspaper. Just learn more about the milk, I was surfing the net and I hit this web site. I could not believe what I read. But after reading this, I have made up my mind to minimize (I'll try to stop also) the use of milk. Thanks for providing such good information. Rashmi

Name: julie frawley
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From:
Time: 2000-04-11 16:24:05
Comments: I am so disgusted with our "government" selling our souls and bodies out to Monsanto and the like. I am so grateful for the Internet because now all of this information is available for all to see and learn the truth. I am boycotting all of these peddlers of death, disease and destruction and will encourage as many people as possible to do the same and will pass the word along. God Bless!

Name: Christine Farnam
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Oregon
Time: 2000-04-11 13:13:24
Comments: My friend from New Zealand found your page, liked it and referred me. I have not read it all yet, but it looks GREAT!! My hubby has problems that may be related to milk products, so this site is just what we needed.

Name: Alicia Aguirre
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Madrid, Spain
Time: 2000-04-11 04:33:46
Comments: First of all, I would like to congratulate you for your page. It is well explained and informative, but it is also entertaining. I also wanted to ask a simple question: why do people get so mad when you tell them milk isn't good for them? I recently told a diabetic friend of mine that he should quit milk, and he looked at me as if I was telling him he had to kill his dog or stop loving his family or something of the sort. People truly get angry when you point out that cow's milk isn't meant for humans. "Haven't we been drinking it for ages?" they scream. I get the feeling that people react this way because it is the ultimate lie, and when they realise it, all their certainties in life crumble. If milk really isn't good for you, when what other lies have they fed us? It's much safer to stick to what they know and just go on living their lives, without asking themselves too many questions. I think it would interesting for you to make a new section in your page where you could try to explain all this to those who are firm believers in milk's goodness. Maybe there's a way to stop them from going nuts as soon as you mention the subject. I don't know if it's possible, but somebody should certainly try it. I'm doing my best here, but it's hard, you know? People actually think I'm crazy just because I ask them if they usually drink when they tell me about their ailments. I've quit milk recently too, but I didn't really drink much in the first place so it was easy. The mere idea of drinking something that came out of a cow's udder made me sick. Well, enough said. Keep up the good work!

Name: pshhh i'm not telling you
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 2000-04-10 21:22:58
Comments: YOUR PAGE (censored) ***. **** YOU, (censored) !!!!!!!!

Name: Pascalle Sweerts
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Time: 2000-04-10 15:46:59
Comments: We have linked to your website. Thank you for this great source of information. Kindest regards,

Name: Denae Johnson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-10 09:20:26
Comments: You people are so stupid, much of what you say isn't true. You say that bst is an added horomone, cows produce bst naturally. You would rather drink soy milk that contains pesticides than cow milk that is all natural!? I love milk and it has never done anything to me or anyone I know. I will continue to drink cow's milk reguardless of what you say because much of what you say is just your own personal opinion. By the way, I think it's pretty funny that you have to have someone read this entry in your guestbook and approve it before it put in the guestbook. You must be worried someone might be in support of the dairy indutry and you don't want anyone to read it before you have hours to think of some more "scientific evidence" to support your responses.

The approval phase is necessary to allow us to
eliminate language not suitable for family viewing.
Such entries most often come from unaccountable
types like you (people who provide no valid Email
address that can be used for a response).

WEBmaster


Name: shawn
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: philadelphia
Time: 2000-04-09 16:25:16
Comments: hello, i am 15 and from philadelphia. i find your site informative and interesting. i would also appreciate a response to this post. i completely agree with your views on milk as being mildly unhealthy. I do not unnescessarily drink milk, but will occasionaly have it in cereal or perhaps some cheese. from reading your website i feel that you ( unfortunately i have not spent much time on your site alone as i have been traveling among sites like yours) you, the anti milk campaign, are going about this the wrong way. for example, cohen and his fasting. i dont't feel this the write way about going about anything. drinking milk and fasting on juice are at least equally dangerous, the latter being ridicuously harmful to his health. furthermore, i feel although milk is agravatory (is that word? :) ) to the illnesses and diseases you profess, it is not the only source of them. for example, you know as well as i that early puberty in children is not from solely milk. how about the cancerous radiation produced from x-rays, technology, pollution etc? it seems to me that you are mixing religion with ethics, and an unworthy cause. how about quitting milk and helping the poor or something. there is many a problem that should & can be solved before the ignorant will stop drinking their beloved milk. i do agree with many of your views. i do believe milk is mildly dangerous, but saying that cow milk is meant for cows and human milk is for humans is nonsense. if this were true i dont think that we should eat anything outside our species. should we really eat cows if we cant drink their milk. its a hard point to follow, but if we eat their meat why cant we drink their milk. anyways. milk sucks. right on.

"saying that cow milk is meant for cows and human milk is for humans is nonsense"

Well, Shawn, you are several millions (perhaps billions) of years late with that revelation. Had you been around at the correct time in this planets evolution you could have saved mother nature loads time.

YOUR extreme tardiness with your astounding revelation caused mother nature to waste literally eons of time developing different formulation for each of the over 40,000 versions of mammal milk.... complete with species-specific immunoglobulins, lactoferrins and more. Shawn, you should hang your head in abject shame for being so late!

Those who promote dairy as "necessary and healthy" missed YOUR profound dictum that all milk is identical... because they favor only one of over 40,000 versions (and they turned up their noses at the one mother natured designed for humans!). In addition, they refuse to believe the obvious... that humans are the ONLY creatures that collect and consume the diseased body fluids of any other species. In short... humans have rejected mother natures' mandate to be weaned from her (as she designed it) emergency nutritional starter food-pack, designed to inoculate the helpless newborn with creature-specific goodies, and to promote rapid growth.

The USDA and their buddies recommend THREE 8-ounce glasses of cow's milk a day. That amount provides each user with the cholesterol equivalent of 19 slices of bacon, lots of saturated fats, concentrated toxins (anything the cow ate and stored in her fat), any combination of up to 52 different antibiotics, FIFTY NINE HORMONES, allergens, some amounts of blood, feces (the real "stuff"), assorted virus, and for added taste... the FDA allows up to 20,000,000 live bacteria and 750,000,000 pus cells... per liter.

Learning that IGF-1 was a powerful growth hormone in every sip of milk and bite of dairy... helps me to understand why my surprise case of prostate cancer had already spread by the young age of 55. That... and the rest of the truth on dairy made me to decide that any form of this substance was NOT a "taste to die for!".

Informing other humans of the WHOLE truth is only right and proper... so that they can make informed decisions for themselves.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Laura Borden
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 2000-04-09 10:32:47
Comments: I would just like to start out by saying that I am the proud daughter of a diary farmer. I have lived and worked on this 6 generation dairy farm all my life, and so forgive if i'm a little biased. I have also worked with the ADADC and other farming organizations, and am now a dairy princess. everyone is entitled to their opinion, and you accuse the dairy industry of shoving their opinion down consumers' throats. to contradict that point, what is it exactly that you are doing here? you see, people can't form their own opinions unless all the points are stated unbiasedly. let them look at the facts. as for the goodness of milk, it is your decision to do what you will with your own health. personally i believe that the mere benefits of milk are important enough that one should consider drinking those 3 glasses a day. but if not, then look at all the great products available out there. i'm not trying to sell milk here, i just want to say that i'm disappointed at your efforts to go against an industry that is so important to our nation, and the world. this one really hits close to home. You've made a choice, as many others have, and thats ok. Just make sure you know all the facts before you report.

On www.notmilk.com there are over 300 WEB pages with solid proof... from a variety of sources, and on www.hungerstrike.com there are over a hundred more.

Mankind is only ONE of over 40,000 mammals on this planet. Each of them has milk formulated for its own kind... with species-specific immunoglobulins and lactoferrins, and different percentages of the various substances. In other words, Laura Borden, mother nature designed each milk to be appropriate for only one species.

Mother nature also programs each mother to WEAN their young from milk (when appropriate)... to forage for LIFE SUSTAINING nutrients necessary for its species. THAT INCLUDES HUMAN BABIES!

Who are you, or the dairy folks, or the USDA... to countermand mother natures plan by convincing humans to nurse from a cow?

Can you name me any other, of those 40,000+ mammals, that make a habit of consuming the bodily juices of another species? Why do we not consume dog's milk... from mans best friend? Or rat, mouse, skunk, or pigs milk? Too small? OK... why not elephant or whale milk? Better yet... why not just never get weaned from our own mothers milk... mother natures "perfect food" designed for human babies?

Simple reason... because mother nature, with many millions of years of experience to her credit, didn't plan it that way!

As WEBmaster of NOTMILK.com I wish you the best of luck in your other "lifes endeavors"... because with your reading skills you will need all the good luck you can get!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim.


Name: russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-09 02:14:51
Comments: the spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.Such teachings come through HYPOCRITICAL LIARS, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.They forbid people to mary and order them to abstain from certain FOODS, wich god created to be received with thanksgiving by those who bealive and know the TRUTH.For evrything god created is good, and and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving. 1st Timothy 1-4. For those of you who like to quote the first chapter of Genesis verse 29,you may want to read the next one because some of you faild to say that we were also given all the beasts on the earth and all the birds in the sky, and evry creature that moves on the ground for food also.If you people want to use quotes out of the bible thats fine with me but you may want to read the last chapter of revelation verse 18,19 wich reads:I warn evryone who hears the words of the prohhecy of thi book:If anyone adds anything to them ,god will add to him the plagues described in this book. and if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, god will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city. So if you want to use the bible to promote your little web site it might be a good idea to use the whole passage rather that taking words out of contex and saying its from the bible when its realy not.You people are wasteing your time anyway .any smart person knows that milk is safe and is good for you

Sigh...! Yet another pro-dairy "expert" with no valid identification.

The only ISSUES that really bear on cow's milk and dairy... are the real facts omitted by those who make, modify, promote and sell it. NOTMILK and HUNGERSTRIKE.com's have the truth available... for anyone sufficiently interested in their health (and sufficiently unbiased) to read and comprehend.

Cow's milk, as a "food" for humans... has NO redeeming features as reasons to consume it. If you can handle the WHOLE truth... think obesity, osteoporosis, heart disease, accelerated cancers, diabetes, allergies, toxins, and more.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim.


Name: June Coyne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Bennington, Vermont
Time: 2000-04-08 21:52:41
Comments: Keep up the good work!

Name: serena serafin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: pa
Time: 2000-04-07 13:28:37
Comments: i like ur site alot, i just started being vegan and i am realizing how underrepresented we r in the area i live in. it's nice to get some ideas of food i can eat minus all the harful dairy agents. i saw robert cohen at a soliadrity confrence in happy valley, pa last weekend and he made an impact on me!!!

Name: Daphne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-07 09:56:44
Comments: (your entry number one)

You guys are crazy. It's like saying your against water. MILK IS GREAT AND GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who cares about your stupid studies, you probably made it up.

(your entry number two)

You guys are crazy. Milk is good for you

(your entry number three)

why are you guys against milk. What did it ever do to you? Just wondering.

Good Grief! Yet another functional illerate or 100% percent opinionated pro-dairy expert who has nothing more to learn on the subject of cow's milk or dairy.

You might consider getting your act together by trying to concentrate on just WHAT you want to say... and make only ONE post instead of three.

NOTMilk.com and hungerstrike.com are not meant for the likes of you, Daphne. These sites exists for folks who care about their lives and their health... and other who seek possible causes for their health problems that their doctors are not resolving.

Enjoy the many (but unnecessary) "fruits" of your self-imposed ingorance.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Robin Peters
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Hodgkins IL (near Chicago)
Time: 2000-04-07 02:54:14
Comments: I'm learning a lot from this website.

Name: Paul
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Michigan
Time: 2000-04-05 15:59:05
Comments: When are you communist bastards going to stop trying to destroy the american family?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Paul,

I am not a Communist, and I am not trying to destroy the American family. Two out of three ain't bad!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: amy leblanc
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button
From: San Francisco
Time: 2000-04-04 17:07:29
Comments: Your page is extremely informative and I agree with almost 100% of it. No matter what the other people on this guestbook have to say, drinking MILK is NOT natural for human beings and is NOT good for you. How many other animals drink the milk of OTHER animals? How many other adult animals drink milk AT ALL?? The answer is none. Your vet will even tell you that giving milk to your cat is bad. Also, you're correct in quoting Genesis 1:26 -- according to that scripture we were given PLANTS to eat, not animals. I am a vegetarian (not yet a vegan), but the more i read about dairy products (all the hormones -- gross!) the more i think dairy is even worse for you than meat. At least it might be considered natural for a human to consume other animals; under no circumstance or scientific evidence is it proved natural and/or good for adult humans to consume any type of milk, esp. not the milk of another animal. Gross. Thanks for your time and info.

Name: kev
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Blackburn, Lancashire, UK
Time: 2000-04-04 08:52:18
Comments: Very interesting site! from a former lactose addict. Peace Kev :o)

Name: shane
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-03 21:03:29
Comments: Thank you for your helpful comments, I had gotten confused. I appreciate the post. And I purposefully always leave bogus email addresses simply for my own safety and to protect myself from spamming.

My opionion, of course, but anything less then being honest and forthright is not a good plan. Subterfuge does nothing to foster good will or trust.

As to SPAM... there may well be upwards of six billion versions of what that term means. Regardless, there are only TWO ways to eliminate unwanted Email... abandon the Internet or watch it disintegrate from lack of ethics, honesty and stifling regulation those traits will generate.



Name: shane carter
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-03 14:40:58
Comments: i just had one question... somewhere in the mass huge thing (:)) u said that americans have alot of dairy in their diet, and then u say that milk consumption is down. does this mean that we aren't seeking milk as our major source of dairy anymore? or perhaps, in the midst of the giganticness of this site, did i misunderstand?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Shane,

The good news is that milk consumption is down. Despite those silly milk pustache ads, Americans are drinking less milk.

The bad news is that cheese, ice cream, and pizza consumption is increasing. It takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese, and twelve pounds of milk to make one pound of ice cream. We eat increased amounts of dairy products containing concentrated hormones, pus, casein, fat, cholesterol, pesticides, antibiotics, and Dioxins. (and more!)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Mr. Cohen said that, statistically, cow's milk and dairy consist of over 39% of the American diet. That plays a VERY significant role in over half of Americans being OBESE (along with having any of a wide range of milk-related illnesses). The USDA "food pyramid" shows that milk and dairy should be around 8% of the diet... assuming that cow's milk and dairy had any redeeming nutritional features... which it does not.

The USDA food pyramid should look like http://www.notmilk.com/graphics/usdamid.gif

However, Americans continue to consume FAR too much cow's milk and dairy (well over the suggested amount)

Here are the stats for a recent year:

586 pounds of milk and dairy products
394 pounds of vegetables
199 pounds of meat
193 pounds of products containing
flour and cereal
121 pounds of fresh fruit?

so the REAL pyramid looks like: http://www.notmilk.com/graphics/pyrmnew.jpg

Milk CONSUMPTION by Americans has been falling... meaning that the US Government, by virtue of subsidies and price supports, must purchase excess unwanted dairy production, store it, make arrangements to give it away, and throw away what cannot be otherwise disposed of. All, at taxpayer expense.

On http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirt22.html#87 there is this note by Mr. Cohen:

"Many thousands of dairy farms will cease to exist in 2000 because there is an enormous surplus of milk. Surplus milk means lower prices. Lower prices spell disaster for dairy producers.

Last year, dairymen were getting over $17 for every hundred pounds of milk they produced. Did they really need more milk? Use of Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone increases a cow's milk by up to 25%.

The most recent price farmers received for 100 pounds of milk was under $10, and that spells bankruptcy."

For less than subsidy price for milk prices the government (the taxpayer) mus t(by dairy-tweaked laws) pay the difference. (see http://www.notmilk.com/hs/nixon.html for the tip of THAT "milk berg")

Robert Cohen asks: "Does a nearly $5 billion SUBSIDY to the dairy farmers of America sound "udderly" ridiculous to you?"

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster
(Typical... the above "fleeb@yahoo.com" is a yet another bogus Email address!)


Name: Ryan Fraley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Bloomington Illinois
Time: 2000-04-02 19:45:33
Comments: I have located the cause of my Asperger's Syndrome thanks to you. I still don't get what is so bad about meat, though. You could be a little less emotional about your point since beliefs must be gradually eroded when they are so deep set in people. I don't know about cutting meat out of my diet, since the hunter-gatherers lived long on scavenged meats and pillaged fruits. Also you forget to mention that people are fat from a carbohydrate overdose. Look at the Egyptians as an example of carb overdose, they were a society that had to battle with obesity and heart disease. The eskimos had as high a protein diet as anyone; this is significant because you cite them as an example of why you do not need meat. I think you might have missed the boat on one thing - weight training. That takes protein and makes it work for you. I am cutting milk and dairy out of the diet, but I will just take vitamins and work out to live long, since that is a proven immune booster. Six million ways to die - choose one. I hope to live long, but when God calls me, *it's time.*

Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-03-31 22:54:08
Comments: Gee, Russ....... Doesn't the Dairy industry want you to believe them so you'll buy all their crap (ie: milk)? (Speaking of stupid.... check your spelling and grammar.)

Name: Dr. Gerard Loranger,N.D.
Website:
Referred by: Signing another Guestbook
From: Huntingdon,Quebec, Canada
Time: 2000-03-31 00:13:26
Comments: Congratulation for your work. Peace, Lova and Light Gerard Loranger

Thank you, Doctor... your comment is much appreciated.

Dave Rietz, Webmaster


Name: Russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-03-29 21:50:12
Comments: This sight is stupid. All theese people are trying to do is make you beaiive some of this stuf so that you will buy the book that they wrote and read the rest of there crap

Sigh! Yet another "expert" from the pro-dairy camp. Typical lack of honor (not accountable: No valid Email address, no last name, no means to respond... just another "hit and run" gutless wonder).

NOTMILK simply presents the facts.... the WHOLE truth. The book is only 317 pages... this web site has over 400 pages... and everything is free, including the 300+ references to support what you choose NOT to read.

The only thing "stupid" consist of visitors who have preconceived ideas about cow's milk and dairy.. who chose NOT to read and comprehend what is presented.

COW'S MILK=SICKNESS=PREMATURE DEATH ... ALL of the crap falls within your domain.

You have chosen to ignore the truth... which, when all is said and done, proves that the eons-old dictum of "survival of the fittest" is still operational. Perhaps this is meant to be the long-term salvation of our Social Security system... by "thinning out the herd".

Both Mr. Cohen and I were once great dairy lovers. Armed with all the facts we both decided that cow's milk and dairy was NOT a "taste to die for".

Dave Rietz, Webmaster


Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-03-26 06:54:45
Comments: Jennifer needs some educating. Perfect food? Yeah, for Calfs. If it IS so perfect, why do they modify it so much? And that essential amino acid bulldust..... what decade is she quoting from?

Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England/Living in Florida
Time: 2000-03-26 00:17:08
Comments: Boby Stagenatesn wrote: Comments: <>

What's insane about trying to live your life without causing the suffering and death of others?

"God put animals on the earth for us to eat and use as necessary."

Genesis 1:29-30 -- And God said, 'Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.

" Milk is an excellent source of calcium and milk has been drunk for many many years"

So is greens, tofu processed with calcium sulfate, blackstrap molasses and tahini are excellent sources of calcium. Also, tofu contains more than four times the calcium of cow's milk.

All because milk has been drank for many years that doesn't make acceptable. Rape, murder, child abuse and incest has also gone on for many years..........is that okay too?

"Personally I drink as much milk a day as I can to make me healthier."

Recommended reading: Physician's Guide to Prevention and Treatment of Osteoporosis. All you need to know about osteoporosis!

" I also deer, duck, squirrel, rabbit, and goose hunt. I also shoot birds with a shotgun just for the hell of it. "

But you don't have to kill to enjoy the joys of life.

"I think you need to quit bitching about animal rights because all the rights they have is to be on my dinner table. "

Animals do have rights! They have the right to free from exploitation, cruelty neglect and abuse. Is this too much to ask for any living being?

Susan Roghair, President Animal Rights Online


Name: The Guy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-03-25 23:34:59
Comments: I was just wondering, just exactly how many mental problems you people have. Milk is healthy, meat is good, I like to eat beef and have a nice tall glass of milk while I laugh about how stupid you are. And what about that hole "Got Beer" thing, what don't drink refreshing healthy milk, insted become an alcoholic, kill your brain cells and while you're at it kill some of your peers in a drunk driving accident. Yeah you were thinkin on that one.

We don't promote beer (or any alcohol) consumption on the part of anyone. We DO say that in almost all respects... BEER is superior to cow's milk with respect to health.

Had you bothered to read anything on the NOTMILK and Hungerstrike web sites... that would have become VERY clear. Not because WE say so... but because more and more in the MEDICAL establishment are saying so.

Let me zero in on only ONE item... a powerful growth hormone called IGF-1. Our bodies make a tiny amount for cell maintenance. This hormone is present in EVERY sip of milk and byte of dairy.

FDA regulators concluded that genetically engineered milk was safe to drink because hormones in milk could not survive human digestion. The publication of a new peer-reviewed scientific journal article will have people responding to the 'GOT MILK' question by asking: "GOT CANCER?"

TIMELINE

1979 Twenty years ago, scientists discovered IGF-I.

1989 Ten years ago, scientists learned that IGF-I was an identical match in the cow's body and the human body.

1994 Five years ago, FDA encountered the biggest controversy in their history by approving the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone known as BGH (aka BST). When that hormone is injected into cows, levels of IGF-I in milk increase by about 80%.

1998 Last year, IGF-I was called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of prostate cancer (Science - January, 1998) and breast cancer (The Lancet - May, 1998).

1999 This year, IGF-I was identified as the key factor in the growth of lung cancer (Journal of the National Cancer Institute - January, 1999).

Recently, the Journal of the American Dietetic Association (Page 1231) said this about IGF-I levels in people who drink milk:

"Serum IGF-I levels (blood levels) increased significantly in the milk group . . . an increase of about 10% above baseline--but was unchanged in the control group."

This blockbuster scientific finding contradicts every major conclusion made by FDA scientists, and sends a chilling warning to ice cream eaters. GO MILK? GOT POWERFUL HORMONES!

********** That is only ONE of the 59 hormones in milk

Both Mr. Cohen and myself were once upon a time great lovers of milk and dairy. However, after learning the WHOLE truth... we decided that it was NOT a taste to die for. Perhaps, if you have an open mind ... you will (ultimately) decide the same for yourself.

Of the over 40,000 mammals on this planet... ALL of them wean their young from this "emergency nutritional starter-pack" of nutrients, species-specific lactoferrins, immunoglobulins and more. After each and every one of them is WEANED, including human babies from THEIR perfect FIRST FOOD (human breast milk) not a one of them returns to their mother for MORE. Yet... humans have decided that nursing from cow's is... OK.

We are what we eat. Over half of Americans are obese (with the numbers still rising) and many are sick and getting more sick. Three glasses of milk a day contain the equivalent cholesterol of NINETEEN slices of bacon. Know any doctors who recommend that much bacon per day?

That, Mr. "The Guy", is only the tip of the "MILKberg". The colossal dairy myth that sinks many lives with heart disease, cancer, allergies, diseases, and more.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster



Name: The guy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-03-25 23:24:12
Comments: I like to eat beef, and I drink milk daily!

Name: John Méndez
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 2000-03-25 14:44:57
Comments: Good job!

Name: Kathleen Bentley
Website:
Referred by: SimpleNet
From: Oxford Mich. USA
Time: 2000-03-24 17:18:17
Comments: I would like to have all up dates on this dairy product stuff and any other warnings on anything else we should be aware of.

Name: Lisa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-03-24 10:32:31
Comments: Was just reviewing the last few entries and wanted to let you know how much it infuriates me that people can be so ignorant. I love reading your responses, keep it up pretty please.

Name: Kevin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: us
Time: 2000-03-24 09:09:01
Comments: Ya you people are a bunch of crackheads!Wake the hell up.Your whole campaign is stupid and incorrect.Oh ya get a life.

Name: Boby Stagenatesn
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: out in the boonies
Time: 2000-03-23 15:21:18
Comments: I think all animal rights people are insane. God put animals on the earth for us to eat and use as necessary. Milk is an excellent source of calcium and milk has been drunk for many many years. Personally I drink as much milk a day as I can to make me healthier. I also deer, duck, squirrel, rabbit, and goose hunt. I also shoot birds with a shotgun just for the hell of it. I think you need to quit bitching about animal rights because all the rights they have is to be on my dinner table.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dr. Freud,

Thank you for your assessment of the sanity of animal rights advocates. Your opinion is highly valued here.

Any man who boasts that he shoots birds "just for the hell of it" should be recognized for the model citizen that he is.

You reference God's will, and I hope that you can influence biblical scholars, so that they re-write Genesis 1:29 which states:

I give you every seed bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food.

God must have been off shooting pigeons, and torturing animals when that verse was written.

Thank goodness for Genesis 51:7 which reads:

I give you shotguns and NRA cards, so that you may shoot pigeons for sport.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



Name: melissa
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NJ
Time: 2000-03-21 19:59:44
Comments: when will your new book be in stores? looking foward to it.

Name: Boogaloo
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany
Time: 2000-03-21 15:15:52
Comments: I really don't know what to say. I don't drink milk, but I still like yogurt, cheese, and chocolate. Where else should I get my essential B-vitamins, as I don't eat meat?

Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England/Living in Tampa Florida
Time: 2000-03-20 22:39:59
Comments: Jennifer wrote: "One farmer feeds 127 people a year with his products, without us farming families, most of you would starve to death"

90% of the agricultural land in this country is used either directly or indirectly to feed livestock. We actually produce enough food to feed 250 million people. There are over 500 million severely undernourished people in the world, 50 thousand die every day of starvation. It has been estimated in my country that a vegan Britain could be self-sufficient in food on about 25% of the land currently being farmed.

"Also remember that the agriculture industry is what gives 50 % of you jobs to go to every morning."

The move towards vegetarianism/veganism is a gradual process. As less and less people are employed in the animal-based industries so more and more will find work in the industries that replace them. Some people may well lose their jobs and every effort must be made to find them new employment. But let us not forget that the animals upon whom their jobs are based are losing their lives.

Susan Roghair Animal Rights Online


Name: Sandra Bullock at All About Herbs
Website:
Referred by: Lycos
From: Hillsboro Ohio
Time: 2000-03-20 22:43:13
Comments: HI Mr.& Mrs Cohen you are both doing a great job keep it up if you want to put a link to my web site you may my Son Troy is my webmaster he e-mail is webmasteratheresheis.com again I say you are doing a great job thank's for the info Mr Cohen the .cc info is still open like notmilk.cc I am getting about 100 to 200 hits a day on this site and we are on yahoo to thanks again for all the wounderful news and hard work you both have done keep up the good work your friend Sandra Bullock at All About Herbs you would not believe what they are doing to the chickens my son Adam is in Chicago in Collage for computors and the sites he has found on chicken are really bad and how they kill the cows for meat this will be on my website soon I really want the news out their the public does not really know what is going on thanks again hope to see you both soon my Friend

Name: Jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: TEXAS
Time: 2000-03-20 20:43:48
Comments: You people are full of crap. These claims are outrageous and just another example of twisting facts to make others come your way. Do you not realize that the exact hormones you are claiming that we get from cattle milk and is causing our society to downfall is produced naturally in our bodies anyway. They are very healthy and when these levels are out of balance severe problems occur. It is also claimed on your website that it is actually causing Calcium to be leeched from the body, it order for this to occur you would have to consume over 1,000 gallons of milk A DAY. What the average consumer drinks in a day will not cause calcium deficiencies in a body. Milk is the perfect food because it is the only food that contains all the essential amino acids that a person needs, no other food can claim that. If all you vegetarian people would stop and think about the effect your words has on the agriculture industry as a whole. One farmer feeds 127 people a year with his products, without us farming families, most of you would starve to death. Also remember that the agriculture industry is what gives 50 % of you jobs to go to every morning.

Name: Ben S.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New England
Time: 2000-03-20 14:11:42
Comments: hello,

having been vegan for 8 years, i did not think i needed to know about milk is poison... however, a young friend, whose parents are trying to force to drink milk, asked for help, and i did some research, having remembered meeting mr cohen for a moment at the boston vegetarian festival reading through the book and web site really hit home just how bad milk is. i did not realize it but my former hay fever allergies (have not had them for 8 years) were quite possibly caused by milk / casein

now that i know just how bad milk seems to be, i really want to tell people because it seems to be a very serious issue, threatening people's health and lives...

i did not know that milk was the possible cause of Flo Jo's Death, but it seems apparent from the information that mr cohen provides on this web site that milk is probably the cause of her death

one criticism i have of mr cohen, however, is that he tends to be a bit too emotional in presenting this scientific evidence... most people can figure out for their selves without being yelled at or had their emotions played with...

maybe mr cohen is so emotional because he cares, which is a good thing, but it tends to wear on people, i think... also some conclusions he makes are probably correct, but he is either leaving out some minor pertinent information or does not have all the facts... i have a background in science and say this not to hurt mr cohen but to hope that he sharpens his communication and scientific writing skills to more effectively communicate his important message to the world

keep up the good work and thank you for your effort to help others

ben


Name: Russ Harmeyer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ft wayne in
Time: 2000-03-20 12:08:05
Comments: I think this sight is stupid and you have no idea what you are talking about. I am a dairy farmer and a bulk milk hauler and can tell you that none of this is true.I would wright a big page on telling you the truth about the dairy industry but you people are so stupid and brain dead it probably wouldn't do any good.If any one has any questions feel free to e mail me and ill tell you the truth .

Name: Danika Nieves
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NJ
Time: 2000-03-19 12:05:12
Comments: Hey, I totally agree with your views. Notice how all those "Got Milk" ads are sponsered by the Dairy Farmers of America! Hmmm, what can they get out of people buying milk??

Name: tim Jupp
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: all
Time: 2000-03-19 02:34:52
Comments: Ran across your book at the local public library, and must admit the title was what struck me. and the library worker as i checked out. some shock. Just amazing to me what I take on faith as a consumer. the unfriendlies lurk behind such a comfortable facade. thanks for mention of this site on the leaf. Ill be contacting my grocer too. Hey the Tillamook creamery has tours what a place to learn more.

Name: Craig
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 2000-03-19 00:35:05
Comments: The one thing I hear while reading the pro dairy comments is that your pro-dairy attitude equals an anti-truth attitude as well. It makes me wonder if these people are dairy workers in disguise trying to hold on to their government subsidies by prepetuating the myth that eating any animal product is healthy. I dare any of you people to present any non-dairy funded peer reviewed scientific evidence that in any way proves a single health benefit from consuming cows milk or milk from any other species on Earth. You'll find only one, that's human breast milk and that's only for infants.

Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England/Living in Florida
Time: 2000-03-18 21:41:07
Comments: M. Gearhart wrote: Sincerely concerned consumer who knows the GOODNESS OF MILK! Dear M. Gearhart, Human beings are the *only* animals on earth who drink the milk of another species. This is not an ancient practice either, we thrived for hundreds of thousands of years without it and in fact it has been estimated that two thirds of the world's population cannot even digest it. Whether you choose to describe our use of animal milk as GOODNESS is irrelevant. The point is that we do not need it and we therefore cannot justify the suffering and death we cause in obtaining it. Susan Roghair Animal Rights Online

Name: catnip the mooch
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: canada
Time: 2000-03-18 17:28:01
Comments: Hey, that's not my real name as you might be able to tell. It's not even my real e-mail address it's my friends. I'm 14 years of age and I just wanted to say that I'm not vegan I'm vegiterian. This not because of ecological reasons it's because I always thought that the taste of meat was rather nasty and when I acually think about what I'm eating I'm quite disterbed. hmmm is that spelt correctly? Anyway as well as the usual non meat diet I don't eat eggs, fowl or fish 'cause they all taste gross. I also can't really eat that much dairy because I'm lactose intolerant. Dang gotta go do laundry but I love your site. sincerly, Catnip T. Mooch

Name: M. Gearhart
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 2000-03-18 11:38:24
Comments: I say AMEN to everything Karen Smith said. Also if your so sure you've got the truth, maybe your the one who need to do more research and OPEN YOUR EYES! I seems to me you have closed your ears and eyes to everything milk has to offer. You have picked upon anything negative you could find about milk and the way its produced and blown it into a huge LIE. You heard me, LIE! Do you have anywhere the education and knowledge of the product that Karen does? Probably not! I'm am truely glad she had the gumption to speak up to jerks like you who pick on innocent people, their occupations and their animals. Sincerely concerned consumer who knows the GOODNESS OF MILK!


     Sigh... yet another detractor who refuses to be identified. But then... this is a trait shared by those who have no proof of their own.

     Cow's MILK has NO redeeming characteristics... and the abundant information on notmilk and hungerstrike most adequately proves this as fact... beyond a doubt (very often with references). Even the GOT MILK "moustaches" are fake, which, most appropriately, matches the dairy industry data on thier products.

     The only "goodness" to cow's milk is "goodness, I've got anther health problem" or, for those who treat those problems "goodness, another boost to the bottom line!"

     I suspect that you think of the folks who blew the whistle on tobacco as "jerks", too.

     Both Mr. Cohen and myself learned the WHOLE truth... and decided that cow's milk and dairy was NOT a taste to die for. You have a right to your opinion ... and if you don't mind the problems that stem from its use (a la tobacco)... by all means, use it!.

     However, we are convinced that, like aspartame and MSG... the public has a RIGHT to know the WHOLE truth... (which is a major reason for our support for truth in labeling), such that they can make up their own minds.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster.


Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-03-17 12:39:01
Comments: Robert, Have you read "There's Nothing In The Middle Of The Road But Dead Yellow Stripes And Dead Armadillos", By Jim Hightower? This book covers all the atrocities that are happening in our society, with lots of wit & humor. Everything from coorporate corruption, to chemicals,breast cancer, GE food, CJD, etc...almost finished with it. Very colorful Texan language sprinkled in. I get the feeling you might know him? A reading list, or the book of the month review would be a great thing to see on your site. Take care. PS. Jim has a web site, that i will visit today. www.jimhightower.com

Name: PJ
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Omaha, NE
Time: 2000-03-16 22:55:27
Comments: Thanks for the great site! Eye-opening and shocking. I'm absolutely furious at the misinformation I've been fed my entire life! I've been buying 4-5 gallons of milk each week for my family of five. No more!! Again, many many thanks for the site!!! I'll be sure to pass the word.

Name: sarah reynolds
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ann Arbor, MI
Time: 2000-03-16 18:20:10
Comments: Super webiste. I am a dietetics student and I have noticed that many dietitians use a lot of "educational materials" provided by the dairy industry. It annoys me that so many of the people who will soon be my colleagues cannot tell the difference between ADVERTISEMENTS and "educational materials" (not to mention the fact that these materials have little or no citations of scientific journals). The rage with which people react to the truth about dairy is also frusterating. The dairy industry has brainwashed many people. Viva la Resistance!

Name: Brian Barker
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Louisiana, USA
Time: 2000-03-16 12:56:50
Comments: I just want to say I love your page! Two months ago I became a vegan and not only has my grocery bill been lowered, so has my pants size! Cutting out all meat and dairy has helped lower my blood pressure to that of an olympic athlete, helped me shave off a few extra pounds (35 to be exact), and I feel better now that I have in all my life. Before I became a vegan, I constantly suffered from chronic fatigue syndrome, severe acne and other problems. Now after cutting out all that crap my acne is gone, I have more energy than I know what to do with and I can even jog now without running out of breath after 5 seconds. I want to thank you for the info on your site! I plan to use some of it to convince my family to stay away from dairy. If anyone is interested in the diet that I'm on, you can read all about it at www.hacres.com. It's AWSOME!

Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England/Living in Tampa Florida
Time: 2000-03-16 06:53:54
Comments:
dinkydog@dreamscape.com wrote: << Maybe your and your researchers can tell me why we have canine teeth and our eyes are in the front of our heads like most all predators have? >>

Dear Dinky,

Some animals have bodies that are specifically designed for meat-eating. Evidence indicates that humans are not one of those animals. One theory suggests that we were originally herbivores (vegetarians), but were forced to start eating meat when the Ice Age made plant food scarce.

Today, our reasons for eating meat are primarily psychological. First, meat-eating is simply a habit; it is readily accessible, familiar, and socially acceptable. We consume meat without even thinking. Second, meat is historically associated with affluence; it is more expensive than plant food and was once even reserved for nobility. This mindset persists, not only in this country but across the world. Finally, we are constantly bombarded with propaganda from a meat industry (with a multi-million dollar advertising budget) that implores us to believe that eating meat is "good," "smart," and "healthy." How about the beef industry's slogan, "Beef. Real Food For Real People." Are they implying that I'm less than a real person if I don't eat beef? It sure sounds like it. This type of programming works exceedingly well.

Many who have studied the subject conclude that humans are plant eaters by both physical and chemical design. Here are some reasons why:

CLAWS: The sharp claws of flesh-eaters help them tear flesh. Humans do not have claws.

TEETH: Our teeth are designed for grinding food, not tearing flesh. Flesh-eaters have long, pointed teeth. Adult humans have 20 pre-molars and molars, ideal for grinding grains, versus only four canines, which are pointed. We can only chew flesh that has been ground up or cooked. One theory suggests that the pointed canines of vegetarians are not for food consumption at all, but rather solely for a show of defense.

CHEWING: Flesh-eaters chew in an up and down motion, swallowing large chunks of food. Humans and other herbivores chew in a slightly circular motion, which grinds the food.

SALIVA: Flesh-eaters have acidic saliva, while humans have alkaline salvia. Unlike flesh-eaters, human saliva contains digestive enzymes that start digesting grains while they're still in the mouth.

STOMACH: The stomachs of flesh-eaters contain 10 times the amount of hydrochloric acid as the stomachs of humans and other natural herbivores.

INTESTINES: Unlike humans, flesh-eaters have intestines that are straight and short, allowing flesh to pass through without putrefying. Humans have long, convoluted intestines, designed to digest foods through a process of fermentation. Flesh introduced into human intestines putrefies, releasing toxins, before it passes all the way through.

METABOLISM: Flesh-eaters are designed to eat high-cholesterol, high-fat, low-fiber diets without harm. This type of diet is harmful to humans.

Many other differences between humans and natural carnivores also exist. Two of them are the ways in which we ingest water and the ways in which we cool ourselves. Flesh-eaters drink through lapping and cool themselves through panting. Vegetarians (including humans) drink through sucking and sweat to lower their body temperatures.

After studying data on diet and its effects from 6,500 Chinese subjects, a nutritional biochemist from Cornell University, Dr. T. Colin Campbell, concluded: "We're basically a vegetarian species and should be eating a wide variety of plant foods and minimizing our intake of animal foods".

Susan Roghair Animal Rights Online



Name: MOONKITTY
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Wisconsin
Time: 2000-03-15 14:35:47
Comments: if you have a mailing list, please include me :)

Those who would like to receive the FREE Dairy Education Board
Newsletter can subscribe by sending an EMPTY Email to:

notmilk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

(Click the above link to do just that :-)

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Pieter
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Netherlands
Time: 2000-03-15 11:11:32
Comments: A week ago, I read that a child should drink 4 glasses of milk. I'm 13 years old and I started to drink 4 glasses a day on Monday (I was 1 week free from school), I even drank 6 large glasses a day, and I thought I was doing the right. I normally always drink Coca Cola. So I drank and I drank, I could see that I was less aggressive as if I were when I only drank Cola. 6 Days (Saterday) I got sick, I had a temp. of 38.8 Celsius (that's when you're sick in Celsius). On Monday, I started going to school again, but I still didn't really felt good. Tuesday, I had horrible pain in my left ear, like it was pushing my earthing-where-you-hear-with (don't know how to call it in English) away. Next day it was going better but now my right ear had the same!! Now Tuesday the same day I write this, and maybe this has something to do with the milk I drank. I drank like 30 glasses in 5 days, 3 glasses is one bottle, so 10 bottles of milk!! My body responded badly... Regards, Pieter

Perhaps the word you are looking for is "tinnitus"? This is a noise or ringing
in one or both ears.

What you exprienced from your overload of fats, cholesterol, histamine and other
allergens, hormones and more... was just the tip of the iceberg.

Read on... and you should make even more interesting discoveries.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: James Kendrick
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Earth
Time: 2000-03-14 21:31:27
Comments: I enjoyed reading your page it has quite a bit of information in it. I have a few questions though. Maybe your and your researchers can tell me why we have canine teeth and our eyes are in the front of our heads like most all predators have? And why are all vegans(including yourself) that I have met are pale, sickly and are always pulling muscles when they do something physical? I like milk, meat, vegatables and most other foods. I'm waiting to get fat yet, but my weight remains ideal and my cholesteral has been 130 or lower. So eat that! Or ruminate it, or whatever. Oh yeah one last thought. Why do so many varmits have to die to save our vegatables?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear James,

I have canine teeth, and cry alligator tears, and have walked pigeon-toed, and my critics have called me a pit-bull. Still, there is no way that my teeth look anything like a mouthful of dog's teeth that were designed to rip raw flesh from another creature. Dog's teeth are sharp and pointy, and most of mine are flat...just perfect for crushing seeds or grain.

Why are VEGANS pale and sickly looking? HAHAHA. I recently testified at the USDA dietary guideline conference, and invite you to the next one. The spokesperson from the sugar foundation looked like Humpty Dumpty, and those who represent milk and dairy products step to the podium with inner-tubes under their clothes.

On the other hand, you should see the spokesperson from PCRM, Neal Barnard. You should see the spokeswoman from PETA. You would die to have their bodies. Keep eating animal flesh and drinking their body fluids, and you will die from not having a VEGAN'S physique.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



Name: Mark L
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Arizona
Time: 2000-03-14 19:34:29
Comments: The author of the NotMilk web site has absolutely no understanding of the scientific process. It would be interesting to see if in fact milk had damaging side effects on human physiology, but none of the "evidence" presented on that web site can properly be interpreted as such. Shame on you for jumpingto conclusions.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mark,

There are thousands of references from peer-reivewed scientific journals on the NOTMILK site. Your inability to see those references reflects your myopic interpretation of the real science. Compare my evidence to the dairy industry milk mustache ads, and you will conclude that one side of this debate uses fraud and deception as their tool.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



Name: Karen Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MIchigan
Time: 2000-03-14 11:57:20
Comments: Dear PETA people, Your information on the dairy industry is ...BULLS**T! I am a fourth generation dairy farmer in Michigan and a dairy science student as well. I would like to clear up a couple of points that you make about milk and cattle. First of all, "are frequently contaminated with pesticides and drugs;" no they are not. How can milk have pesticides in it?? Cows don't eat pesticides. Now if you want to see stuff with pesticides on it try looking at the fruit and veggies that you eat. Drugs..no there are no drugs in milk. If a shipment of milk has any drug or antibiotic residue in it it is automactically dumped. Osteoporosis is caused in women by the lack of natural horomones that occur in the body during and after menopause. As for bone breaks I have never had one bone break and I have played and still play sports. I drink about a gallon of milk a day give or take a pint here and there. If beer is so healthy and good how come you have to be 21 to drink it, beer has no fat...but it has a tendancy to make people fat when consuming large amounts. Beer has no cholesterol but it causes liver disease. " Today's dairy cow is treated like nothing more than a milk machine—chained by her neck in a concrete stall for months," The chains on their neck are for identification and used instead of head gates to keep the cow still while milking. Once the cow is done milking she is released and sent out to eat and get a drink or lay down if she wants. As for the part abouts months...WRONG! " her udders genetically modified to produce so much extra milk that they sometimes drag on the feces- and covered cement." The genetics we used are from artifical inseminating of the animal because it is dangerous to have a live bull on the farm." her male calves are traumatically taken away from her at 1 to 2 days old and chained inside cramped dark crates to be killed for veal. The milk that is meant for them ends up on our supermarket shelves." Whether the calves are male of female they are taken from their mothers...just like human children who are given up for adoption. Not all males are raised for veal most are raised up for beef! Veal are fed only milk so not all of the milk given is sold to the store they get fed the milk. Who cares if the calf is fed with a bottle or off the teat. Human mothers use bottles and replacment milk instead of their own breast milk, you don't piss and moan about that do you....i doubt it! "PETA’s College Action Campaign coordinator Morgan Leyh counsels, "Colleges have been busy banning kegs from campus. But we say, ‘Ditch the dairy, not the beer!’ " " Never in my life have i ever seen a riot started because student had been drinking milk and became drunk, but as a student at Michigan State University I can assure you that riots have been started by drunken students,stundent drunk on beer not milk. I hope that the next person that has a accident in which beer was involved will sue you for everything you have and more. You are just a bunch of ignorant misinformedpeoples who have to much time and money and not enough brains! Sincerely Karen Smith

"Peta people?" Your reading skills DO need much improvement! That is your first (of many) errors.

"I am a fourth generation dairy farmer in Michigan and a dairy science student as well."

Ummm. All THAT means is that you have been exposed to more of the dairy myth than most of us.

It is obvious that your "mind is made up", and that you made a conscious decision to exclude most all (of the over 400 WEB pages) of facts that prove our points. We present the facts... but you have proven that this cannot induce anyone to read or comprehend material that conflicts with their preconceived opinions.

"No antibiotics"? Two different resources (Consumer Union and the New York Times) tested different milk samples and BOTH showed residue of 52 different antibiotics.

Osteoporosis - http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html A LONG TERM study evolving 78,000 nurses flushes your calcium-from-milk theory down the tube.

The rest of your standard dairy industry disinformation is readily debunked on our WEB sites, and hundreds more.

The truth is posted on www.normilk.com and www.hungerstrike.com ... for all to read, WITH references. The information represents thousands of hours of work but is FREE for the reading. Anyone, including you, is most welcomed to all of it. What you do with knowledge is your decision. Keep on consuming milk and dairy... and as a surprise cancer victim I KNOW you will be keeping me company... sooner than you might deem possible. Cancer sux. It is life-altering, life shortening, and very expensive.

The above web sites, along with www.dorway.com on aspartame, and www.truthinlabeling.org on MSG exist to forewarn a clueless public who have been lied to (a la tobacco) for decades. We don't think that is either fair, or ethical, and these web sites exist for those seeking the truth.

We hope you will change your mind... and at least do your own homework rather that rely on tainted dairy-industry provided information

Mr. Cohen and myself (both once-upon-a-time dairy lovers) have both concluded that cow's milk and dairy is NOT a taste to die for...

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim


Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: England/Living in Tampa Florida
Time: 2000-03-13 22:18:15
Comments: Robert Cohen is a powerful and driven individual, uncompromising when and where animal suffering is occurring, devoted and full of empathy, employing sound facts and hard evidence to go up against barbaric callousness and rampant ignorance on the dairy industry. He is fighting the good fight, but more importantly he has reached hardened hearts and minds and seen change occur. And this is what is so crucial in this age...to inspire others to seek out their humanity...to lead them where they have never gone before....to find wrong where it lives....in our souls. Susan Roghair, President of Animal Rights Online

Name: dan demaria
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: new jersey
Time: 2000-03-13 20:52:28
Comments: interesting...

Name: emma-louise danielle jenifer smith
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: zugazaga island
Time: 2000-03-13 19:05:30
Comments: I am only a vegiterian but I really wan't to be a vegan. Unfortunatley I am enimic oh God I can't even spell. Any way this site rocks. oh my God I hate my name

Name: Sammie Jones
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 2000-03-13 18:04:14
Comments: This is all just a big fat load of crap. Excuse the language but I love milk and it helps prevent osteoporosis and a bunch of other bone diseases. If you agree with me, that this site is dumb, then would you please email me. You can go to my site later but it's under construction at the moment. Sorry. I have a message board though. It's at www.coolboard.com/gigglebox911. Peace, love, and milk!!

The only "crap" is what you and I were fed for most
of our lives. Milk and dairy (like monkey brains, poi
and a lot of other "stuff") is an acquired taste. Both
Mr. Cohen and I (his webmaster) were once-upon-a-time
heavy consumers of cow's milk and dairy products.

However, now that we know the WHOLE truth... we have
decided that this substance is NOT a taste to DIE for!

There is ample proof on both the NOTMILK and Hungerstrike
web sites. All we can do is present it... not make you
read and comprehend it. We submit that folks who value
their health and longevity... will at least read and
digest everything available and THEN make up their minds.

"Dumb", Sammie Jones, would be in NOT availing yourself of free
health related information.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: sammie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: s.c.
Time: 2000-03-13 16:54:32
Comments: Thank you! I wondered why my asthma was getting worse!

Name: Tutu
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: US
Time: 2000-03-13 12:52:37
Comments: Great site! Need more people like you.. For some more whistleblowers stories visit: http://whistleblowers.freehosting.net Cheers!

Name: noooga
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: israel
Time: 2000-03-13 10:50:36
Comments: WELL DONE !!!

Name: Rachel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
Time: 2000-03-13 05:35:21
Comments: FANTASTIC site!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love it!!!!!!!!!! I've only just started setting up my website - but I have already added links to yours - why don't you come and have a look? Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!

Name: Shirley
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Time: 2000-03-12 18:34:22
Comments: Excellent reading.There are so many hidden properties in our foods that I have always felt were instrumental in causing cancer, etc. It is not good to take things for granted just because we know no different. I am eager to learn all I can in hopes that my grandchildren can have a better chance of having a healthy, productive adulthood. learn, in hopes that my grandchildren can have a better chance of having a healthy, productive adulthood.

Name: Catherine
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Mobile Ala.
Time: 2000-03-12 11:50:24
Comments: Your web site is wonderful, I tell everyone about it. I never drank milk as a child or as an adult and of course everyone thought I was weird. Now it is good to know I have some support and facts to fall back on. I never buy milk anymore for my kids we put soy milk on cereal. I think in the years to come there will be more to find out about cow's milk and what it has done to so many people's bodies.

Name: Ashton
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Indiana
Time: 2000-03-10 17:45:35
Comments: This isnt really something to be teaching kids.Osteoperosis people!!!!!

Name: Kimmie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Michigan
Time: 2000-03-10 08:25:49
Comments: I've known forever, having asthma that milk (and dairy) contribute to ferocious attacks. I can't give up my Ben&Jerrys, but detest milk and only use 1% on cereal.

Ummm... ONE percent! This means that since they have reduced
the fat content from 3.25% to 1% they have also reduce the fats and
cholesterol (and the "stuff" they contain) but you get MORE of the
hormones!

Here is a chart calories and other goodies:

ONE HUNDRED GRAM PORTION (3 1/2 OUNCES)

                         CALORIES  CHOLESTEROL  GROWTH HORMONES
WHOLE MILK = 3.25% FAT      61       13.6 mg        yes
2%    MILK = 2.00% FAT      49        7.5 mg        yes
SKIM  MILK = 0.00% FAT      35        1.8 mg        yes
BEER       = 0.00% FAT      41        0.0 gh        no  (comparison only)
LIGHT BEER = 0.00% FAT      28        0.0 mg        no  (comparison only)
WATER      = 0.00% FAT       0        0.0 mg        no  <=== best choice!

OF note is that they typically use SKIM milk to fatten pigs
for market. Those powerful hormones DO work!

Ben and Jerry's???? OOPS!

Check out http://www.junkscience.com/nov99/bjpress.htm
for their dioxin-filled toxic treats.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Nan Taska
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Plymouth, Ma
Time: 2000-03-10 06:27:46
Comments: Mr Robert, in this election year, I am going to write your name in for my vote for President. FDA/Codex and all have not stopped you, as I know it would not. The American people need that one person to respond to the good of all, and you are IT. Like that, IT. IT runs around making the world a better place. The Monsanto world should call you IT. Hear that Monsanto!!!

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: earth citizen
Time: 2000-03-08 05:57:32
Comments: Robert, Alimentarus, is latin for food or something that nourishes. Took educated guess since in spanish Alimento is food. Alma is soul, something nourishing the soul. (figure in latin it's close.) So it's "soul food"? Just kidding. Can't help you on the Codex thing.

Plese read The Nation this week March 20 Title: THE SECRET HISTORY OF LEAD "Special Report, How General Motors, Standard Oil, & DuPont colluded to make & market gasoline containing lead-a deadly poison-although there were safe alternatives. Abetted by the US government, they surpressed scientific knowledge that lead kills. Still sold in countries all over the world,leaded gasoline continues to poison the planet."

This coincides w/recent article i read saying that the EPA has raised the allowable amount for lead in our childrens blood stream to over %600 per cent of what historically man has had. Interesting, seems our fed gov. has their hands in everything. GOOD LUCK IN JAPAN

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

The FDA Giveth (heartburn) and the FDA taketh away (herbal remedies for heartburn).

Monsatan has exerted enormous pressure on FDA, and my invitation to CODEX has been revoked. Who pays my non-refundable planefare, and room deposits? Moi.

Who ultimately pays for the FDA arrogance, lack of integrity, and fraud?

Sadly...the American people.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Joseph Austin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: North Easton, Massachusetts
Time: 2000-03-08 03:16:29
Comments: What an eye opener! Are their any rebuttals directed at your findings? I would be interested to see if anyone could discount your information. It never hurts to get an honest interpretation of both sides to a story. I'm not saying that I don't believe you, I would just like to see someone try to prove otherwise. You seem very thorough and I doubt anyone could prove otherwise. Thank you for doing the dirty work for everyone that just takes for granted that we are being properly taken care of by the Government. I always felt that the Government was inefficient but I really had no idea they were blatantly trying to kill us!!! Population control perhaps.... Who do they think they are ?!!!?

Mr. Cohen has a standing offer to debate in any fair forum.

No takers!

Perhaps one of the best things you can do is use a bit of
common sense. Then... do check out a recent dairy industry
funded study that backfired on them (both barrels!)

THE DAIRY INDUSTRY SELF-DESTRUCTS

Regards, Dave Rietz, WEBmaster.


Name: Melody McIntyre
Website:
Referred by: Geocities
From: Rockingham
Time: 2000-03-05 06:57:37
Comments: I have enjoyed visiting your website.

Name: Cindy
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: CT.
Time: 2000-03-05 06:54:53
Comments: Thank you for being there for me and my daughter we can not have to much dairy now we can in the way of soy goods.

Name: Kate
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 2000-03-05 01:12:50
Comments: I have been trying to tell my friends for quite some time that milk is harmful. They never listen...maybe if I send them this page, they will know! Great page!!!!

Name: Sara
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: O'Fallon IL
Time: 2000-03-04 23:30:16
Comments: Your website was a website of the day on TipWorld. Thank you so much for putting up this site! I have been trying to convince everyone I know that milk is poison. No other animals in the world drink milk after they have matured, why do we? Thank you for providing the evidence I need to support my own little anti-milk campaign.

Name: Elizabeth Farians
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Cincinnati
Time: 2000-03-04 20:20:53
Comments: thanks for the good work, especially for the animals remember the kiss in Cincinnati

Name: Angelique
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: North Carolina
Time: 2000-03-04 18:51:47
Comments: It is very interesting.

Name: Louis McIntosh
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Oklahoma
Time: 2000-03-04 18:42:40
Comments: Personally I hate milk myself, The only way I can stand it is Chocolate milk.

Name: Candice Blanco
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Utah
Time: 2000-03-04 09:36:51
Comments: About 4 years ago my sister told me that cows milk was not meant for humans. I laughed, of course it was. Everyone says it is.

A year ago I gave birth to my daughter and began to study the wonders of breast milk. That sparked my interest in milk. Were we as humans ment to have the milk of another animal?

For Christmas I got the book "Milk - The Deadly Poison" and am now a true beliver. What a great book. Anyone that takes the time to study this subject will truly see the light. My 13 month daughter will not, nor has she ever had cows milk (we are working on cutting out all dairy, its too bad that I like chez so much) I feel that the milk God is helping my body produce is perfect for my daughter.


Name: Martha Hughes
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Nashville, TN
Time: 2000-03-04 07:46:10
Comments: Got you from an e-mail ad!

Name: Todd Strickland
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Santa Monica, Ca
Time: 2000-03-04 04:25:49
Comments: great site, I will recommend it to friends as a site to check out. thanx.

Name: Joni
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Northern California
Time: 2000-03-04 02:35:29
Comments: Found you through Marie Oser information, she refers to your site for soy milk machine info. She can be found via vegsource.com. I've been a lacto-vege for 25 years, two months ago, along with the big 2000, I gave up dairy products and lost almost 30 pounds, I've never felt better, and my family is totally supportive so they've given up dairy too. Now all I need to do is get cracking on alternative recipies for old favorites like cottage cheese. By the way, Vegan Action has a great T-shirt (Black w/white print) "SoyMilk?"....in response to all those "got milk" advertisings.

Name: Cheri Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Chicagoland
Time: 2000-03-03 22:55:54
Comments: I went vegetarian in 1987 and have never felt better.

Name: jeanie
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: sarasota, florida
Time: 2000-03-02 10:26:15
Comments: My frequent headaches stopped when I gave up milk & dairy products.....Plus, I shed 20 lbs! WhooHoo!

Name: ECho
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Idaho
Time: 2000-03-01 22:30:26
Comments: I had no idea that milk was that bad I don't drink lots of it though I only drink 1%

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

A one-hundred gram portion (3 1/2 ounces) of 1% milk and whole milk have the same amount of protein, and differ in fat content by about only two grams.

Both the whole and 1% milk contain pus, hormones, and glue (casein). Let me know when the dairy industry removes those ingredients, and I'll give milk my seal of approval.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 2000-02-29 19:47:10
Comments: Please refer to www.cancerbusters.com for the story of Thomas Navarro a 4 year old boy whose parents want to give him alternative treatment for cancer. The FDA is blocking this treatment insisting that Thomas undergo chemo & radiation therapy. This is insane! The parents should have the right to give Thomas the non-toxic antineoplastons therapy without the toxic chemo & radiation barbaric therapies which only destroy the immune system. Please write or E-mail your congressman and two senators and President Clinton and put pressure on them to allow the freedom to have this alternative treatment allowed. Please also ask them to support the Access to Medical Treatment Act (S-l955) in the Senate and (HR-2635) in the House. This act will allow parents and anyone else to choose the medical treatment they want without the FDA dictating the treatment. The FDA should be purged of all the scoundrels that are there approving toxic drugs that cause deaths of thousands while disapproving non-toxic natural alternative therapies that have been proven to work. Other countries are way ahead of the United States in using natural therapies to treat cancer and other diseases. The big pharmaceutical companies in their greed will fight any natural remedies that threatens their bottom line. Read the book "World Without Cancer" for additional information on how the FDA banned laetrile or vitamin B-l7, a natural substance that attacks the cancer cell while actually nourishing the normal cells. Also support the Fresh Fields Super Markets which provide organic foods that don't contain growth hormones, antibiotics, pesticides that milk and other conventional foods contain. It's up to you folks! If you don't take some action to fight corruption in government, it can only get worse and the 550,000 people scheduled to die, (or should I say executed by the FDA) because they could not get alternative treatment, will continue to suffer from the agony of chemotherapy and radiation treatments and die a painful death. We don't even treat our death row inmates that way when they are executed. If anyone from the FDA reads this, don't forget God will judge you for what you have done to deceive the people and cause deaths unless you change your ways and begin to tell the truth. Release the information in the Richard, Odaglia & Deslex study and do something for your country!!! God have mercy on you if you refuse to change your ways or as the Bible says "repent". Stop the American holocaust now!

Name: Jennifer Guagliardo
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Mississippi
Time: 2000-02-27 12:13:19
Comments: Great page & great info.! Please put me on any mailing lists. Thanks! Jenn

Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tampa Florida
Time: 2000-02-27 09:08:08
Comments: I can say with sincerity that after hearing Robert Cohen speak at the Gainesville Vegetarian Conference last week I know of his commitment, his dedication and his desire to be a spokesperson for animals in society! Bravo Robert on such a superb and eduational book! Know that I am selecting it as my Book Pick of the Week very soon, advertising it to the Internets largest online Animal Rights list, Animal Rights Online! For all you do, I am veganly grateful! Susan Roghair - President Animal Rights Online P O Box 7053, Tampa, Fl 33673-7053 http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/1395/

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 2000-02-25 20:31:06
Comments: In addition to the book "World Without Cancer" by G. Edward Griffin everyone should read the book "Essiac - A Native Herbal Cancer Remedy" by Cynthia Olsen. You can also go to www.philsteinberg.com for more information on Essiac tea and other cancer fighting supplements. Thankfully this tea is available in the U.S. The FDA hasn't gotten their bloody hands on Essiac tea yet but give them time and they will probably try to ban that too unless the public stands up against them.

Name: Michael Exarhos
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Miami FL,
Time: 2000-02-25 20:11:05
Comments: Keep up the good work

Name: Jeaaica Lang-Jones
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Orlando,FL.
Time: 2000-02-25 03:43:33
Comments: Want to receive more information.

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Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-02-24 09:34:37
Comments: Why are mothers weaning their kids so early & then whining about the problems they have with formula?

Robert, a child needs human milk, way past the ONE year stage. La Leche League now recomends ONE year, World Health Organization now TWO. These are MINIMAL recomendations. (I think these will be increased with time) Healthy is the baby that nurses till one, lucky is the baby that nurses till two.

Actually, I have read human infants were meant to nurse till 4 or 5. Of course in our society this is taboo. In China, i am sure as in many other societies, it is common. I read an evolution book about the bones found of a primitive primate. It is very closely related to man, in same subfamily, now extinct, called Autralopithecus. They named her "LUCY". She breast fed her infants till 4 or 5 years old. This also helped to space her children apart. For mankind i have read that the natural spacing is about 7 years. Some American Indians, had 4 year bans on sexual relationships after the birth of the baby. Makes evolutionary sense. This would give the mother the 3-4 year time she would need to properly take care of the child. Since many were nomads you could not exactly be taking care of more than one baby at a time. A plus for their survival. Now from what I see of my neighbors they "unzip" one baby every year & a half. This biologically is too stressful on the mother & on rest of children. No wonder there are so many problems & natural child birth has gone out the window. Imagine spacing kids apart 4 or 5 years so they can wean without pressure? Some kids do decide to wean earlier, but then it is their desicion, not the mothers. Contrary to popular belief, nothing on earth can make a child nurse when he does not want to & his body tells him it is weaning time. Some are long term & some short, very individual. So the question is not so much, are you still breast feeding? But rather, is he/she still wanting to nurse? A big difference!! Mother nature has set up everything real nice, we just have to be smart enough to leave it alone.


Name: Mary Ann Starr
Website:
Referred by: Lycos
From: St Louis MO
Time: 2000-02-23 21:23:54
Comments: GREAT site! I got so much info from you. Thanks!!

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 2000-02-22 21:54:27
Comments: The criminal activity of the FDA is not only involved in milk hormones. I would recommend everybody read the book "World Without Cancer" by G. Edward Griffin. It tells the story of vitamin B-l7 or laetrile which is found in apricot seeds, apple seeds, etc. Remember Steve McQueen the actor? Back in l980 he had to go two Mexico to be treated for cancer with laetrile because the FDA would not allow its use in the USA. The newspapers reported that he died because laetrile did not work. According to this book, he actually died from a complication from an operation to remove a non-cancerous tumor in his abdomen that was causing a bulge. He wanted it removed for cosmetic reasons. As far as I am concerned the FDA is a criminal organization guilty of not only of deception and conspiracy but of murder because of the millions of people who have died because they could not be treated by a natural substance that has been proven successful other countries. Some of the so-called doctors in the conventional medical establishment are also guilty of murder because they deliberately suppress the truth of studies that have proven the success of laetrile. Mr. Cohen is one of the few heroes of our time who is willing to risk his life to expose the truth about bovine growth hormone.

Name: Matthew
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Hampshire
Time: 2000-02-22 03:23:11
Comments: I like Milk. I hate Milk. Whats the difference, can't we just all be friends?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Matthew,

I'm confused. You hate milk. You like milk. There seems to be two Matthews inside of you. Thank goodness AOL offers alternate aliases.

I am hopeful that during the next few years of therapy the two of you can be friends.

Good luck, Matt. Take care, Matthew.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: p. Scott Putnam
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Boise, Id.
Time: 2000-02-21 21:14:07
Comments: My daughter has been and athlete and is 20 ready to get married. She has two breast tumors. We have been a low meat household but heavy on dairy products. Having lost my dad to colon cancer and the establishment I am hopeful of changing the outcome for her.

Name: Ash Brady
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Liverpool, New York
Time: 2000-02-20 10:29:31
Comments: Hi guys! Its great that we are all trying to get together and fight for animal rights and Its very hard with peoples tactics and egotistical ways, but as long as we can stick together and fight together then we can at least help a little with getting our society or even nation to listen and so i think we are obligated to educate them! *ALL 4 VEGAN!*

NOTMILK is more "human rights" than anything. In particular,
the right to know what is on their dinner table, and if it is
not appropriate, why not.

Cow's milk and dairy has NO redeeming qualities as a human "food".

None!

The calcium aspect is perhaps the best example of the dairy
industry disinformation.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Dawn E Phillips
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Palm Beach Gardens, Florida
Time: 2000-02-19 19:19:55
Comments: I have read "Milk The Deadly Poison" and have met Mr. Cohen during one of his lectures in Rochester, New York. My family was already vegan before reading Mr. Cohen's book but his information further reinforced our views. I just came to the web site to check it out before suggesting it to a friend who needs information on kicking the milk habit.

Name: Geoff Brewer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Devizes Wiltshire UK
Time: 2000-02-19 04:14:41
Comments: Written to FDA Dockets about this Robert and raise it at every opportunity in the UK, trying to get the UK media interested. Thanks for the copy of your excellent book. Can you suggest anything we can do in the UK to support you? Blessings, - Geoff

Name: Lucy Z.
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Toronto
Time: 2000-02-17 06:51:40
Comments: I just want to ask about non dairy supplements for babies. She was breast fed for 8 months. She's now 1 year old and can't digest any milk products, nor soy or rice milk. Help?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lucy,

How many infants have osteoporosis?

How many teens have osteoporosis?

How many women under the age of 40 have osteoporosis?

You child has teeth. Congratulations. It is now time for her to eat solid food. She does not require body fluids from other animals to maintain good health. Nor does she need substitutes.

Teach her that there are 40 fruits and 40 vegetables in your supermarket. Give her the gift of fresh juices from those fruits.

The largest study in the history of woman-kind is ongoing at Harvard University. Scientists have learned that women who consume a lot of milk as teens grow up to have sinificantly higher rates of forearm and pelvic fractures than non-milk drinking females.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tammy Perrin
Website: vegan_rights
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Florida
Time: 2000-02-16 21:54:36
Comments: I have been a vegan for more than three years now, and this site is an excellent source for facts to share with friends.

Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Down Under
Time: 2000-02-15 16:15:21
Comments: We all know what pill Juleah HAS swallowed. Actually, I should say PILLS.

Name: BOB CHUA
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: SINGAPORE
Time: 2000-02-15 13:44:28
Comments: My wife and son had just cleared up the fridge of all the milk and milk products after realising the fact!! We have been drinking milk all this while not knowing the destruction it causes.thanks to notmilk.com

Name: Dulcy Jenkins
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Alhambra, CA
Time: 2000-02-14 23:10:04
Comments: We should treat animals with respect, and quit using them for our voracious appetites!

Name: Rhonda Hatch
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Houston, Texas
Time: 2000-02-09 08:07:25
Comments: I would like to get your daily messages. My three year old son and I have been dairy free for almost a year. We eat only free range chicken and fish for meat, and all the veggies we can stand. My son drinks rice milk, I drink soy. I really enjoy your website. People have got to be told the truth about what the Government is feeding them.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Rhonda,

Please visit the hungerstrike.com website. I keep a daily diary which you might enjoy reading.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sarah Gross
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Shreveport, LA.
Time: 2000-02-09 04:37:47
Comments: great webpage! Everybody should be a vegan! Must stop the suffering! Let the animals be free and happy again!

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-02-09 02:32:08
Comments: Juleah, GET REAL, Robert publishes everyone's comments. Why don't you go back & read past entries & you will discover very many hostile pro milk points of view. You have not even taken the time to understand the IGF-I argument. Consider buying his new book. I just met a woman vet. the other day, we actually spoke the same language. She understood the word growth hormones, & their implications. A concept over your head.

Now for another joke. Here in Cincinnati Ohio, at a major intersection near my house, every day during the lunch hour four police officers direct traffic, in & out of the Wendies & Burger King. They stand in the main street, no matter the temperature, & stop the MAIN flow of traffic so the folks that want junk food & eat garbage can help themselves. They are usually drinking a soda(probably diet) with the name of the fast food establishment. All i can think of is, my tax dollars are going to pay for those FOUR police officers, (sometimes six on holidays), to facilitate the fast food agenda. I get furious. I do not see them lined up at the health food store, so i can exit easier. Maybe i should ask?


Name: Elizabeth
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minnesota
Time: 2000-02-09 01:53:35
Comments: I found your web site to be very interesting!! I have been a vegetarian for almost 7 years now and have been thinking of going vegan. The information on this web site was very helpful in my decision! I think it is great that there are web sites like this out there for people to finally know the truth about meat, and animal products.

Name: Daniel Jahn
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Brazil
Time: 2000-02-05 09:40:12
Comments: My name is Daniel and I'm a student of Nutrition (third year) from Brazil and your site is really a very interesting source of information on this subject. It was especially fun reading the Juleah's comment on your milk site because Juleah doesn't seem to have read anything and is just trying to prove her opinion or common sense on milk, well she has a Major in agriculture and that should explain her lack of Scientific and Chemistry knowledge as she reminds me of priests from the middle ages trying to hold the argument that earth was still and the sun was orbiting it.

Name: Juleah
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 2000-02-05 03:24:28
Comments: Hi. I was referred to your website by a friend who was completely outraged. After exploring your site for a while, I can see why. As a college student majoring in agriculture, I have had a decent amount of exposure to and experience in the dairy industry. I was, quite frankly, astonished at the information you provided on your website. And congratulations, by the way - if I had been an uninformed visitor, I would have believed every word you fed me. I consider myself lucky to be able to say that I didn't. And, I'd like to hope that other people would take the opportunity to learn more about the issue, OUTSIDE of your website, so they can at least make up their own minds. I still have the utmost confidence in the American Dairy Industry, I believe in their ability and intentions to supply the public with the highest quality goods for affordable prices. Milk provides you with numerous vitamins and minerals necessary for your daily life. It provides calcium - which is crucial to bone strength among other things. One of your guestbook entries mentioned that although they drank 1 1/2 gallons of milk a week their doctor still said they didn't get enough calcium. This could be simply because the person didn't exercise enough - in order for calcium to be absorbed by your body (whether it's in the form of milk or a supplement) you must be active. The USDA and FDA are two organizations that are doing their job in securing the safety of the American public. Any food out on the market has met their standards - standards that have been tested again and again to assure they are of the utmost quality. If someone is lactose intolerant they shouldn't drink milk - that is apparant in your research - but what about the plethora of people who are NOT intolerant? The benefits they are receiving far outweigh the risks. A risk that is unspoken in your website includes that of what the economy would be like WITHOUT the dairy industry. Agriculture is crucial to state and national economies - in most states it ranks withing the top 5 industries of the state.

I understand that this posting isn't exactly the "way to go, thanks for warning me" commentary you expected. It may make you angry that I didn't swallow the pill you fed me - in fact, I don't even expect this posting to be published. I noticed that most of the postings in your guestbook are positive and reassuring, and I know mine isn't in favor of your opinion. It would obviously be easier to simply delete my entry than to defend the questions I've raised - and I understand that. If you DO choose to publish this, I fully expect you to try to rip apart my points, like you have with anyone else who has tried to raise their voice against yours. And that is fine, because your website is not a democracy, and it isn't required to be. So, even if you are the only person to read this, I hope you understand that not everyone will simply take what you say as the complete and total truth. And, having that said, I will resign myself to the many other entries that were simply deleted when their content was found not to support your website's point of view. I'll resign myself to being one of the many other people who have tried, as you claim to, to show people the other side of the issue. I'll accept this for what it will probably be, a single voice that is so feared for what it represents it will simply be erased. Thank you for your time of even reading this, even it is simply to be deleted, at least it will be in good company. Sincerely, Juleah


Name: Kevin Dunn
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Vermont
Time: 2000-02-04 18:28:59
Comments: A great site with terrific information. Thanks for being here!!! Keep up the great work.

Name:
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Glencoe, MN
Time: 2000-02-04 03:10:57
Comments: I heard Robert Cohen as a guest speaker on a local radio program. The station is KSTP am 1500 Mpls/St.Paul. I was intrigued with all the information he gave in a way too short time. I've been health-oriented for some time and found this not milk info to tie in nicely with my beliefs and practises. Thank you so much for spreading the word!

Name: O'Hara Forrestal
Website: The Sterile Vegan
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Bellingham
Time: 2000-02-03 10:05:23
Comments: When I was in grade school my mother was doing research at the University of Wisconsin uncovering the truth about the detrimental effects of consuming dairy products, hearing all about it from my mother, I would try to explain to my friends about its ill effects on human health, and remember very specifically being laughed at and essentially ostracized for upholding that point of view. The chastizing I suffered from teachers and students alike was so severe that I eventually stopped talking about it. It didn't occur to me then what the cause of my fierce rejection was, but now understanding the power of the dairy industry and its influence in public schools, it has become increasingly important for me to express, to other parents whose children might be exposed to similar situations, why it is necessary to warn, and arm your children, lest they turn and reject that most vital piece of information in light of public sentiment and peer pressure. Thank you for being aware.

Name: C.E.R.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ohio
Time: 2000-02-02 06:29:08
Comments: If we all would step back for a minute and look at the big picture we are nothing but victims of money "greed" primarily with the asses in the "FDA". All our food is contaminated. I visited a web site www.dorway.com which I highly recommend people to visit. It talks on aspartame and monosodium glutamate. Unreal what the excitoxins/neurotoxins are doing to us, then that damn "FDA" has the nerve to say herbs are dangerous and vit. c causes cancer, no actually it will keep you from the visiting the pharmacy (money loss) and I can speak on that from a personal experiance. Imagine this combination a glass of milk with pus, a bag of chips with msg and a cup cake with aspartame= suicide. I think we as tax paying U.S. citizens should overthrow the "FDA" it may save our lives.......

Name: ZoeViva
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canterbury, England
Time: 2000-02-02 01:26:49
Comments: A couple of years ago there was an aluminium 'scare' about soya milk. It was mainly to do with baby soymilk, but I as an adult am just as concerned. Aluminium is used as a 'fining' agent to clear water when it is being cleaned before it comes through our taps. It can also be found in cooking raising agents, and I understand tea leaves contain high amounts. Now I am REALLY concerned because so much chemical gunk is going into all our food. In England, some counties (like mine, Kent) do not have sodium fluoride - a waste product of the aluminium industry - in their water;. the British government is considering forcing ALL water authorities to put fluoride in water. Now this water fluoride will be added to our soya milk aluminium, and the water used in soy milk production may itself be fluorided, in addition to the aluminium that the growing beans soak up from the soil when they are growing . . . you get my drift?! Is our only answer to make our own soya milk from bottled pure water? Give up soya milk altogether? Or is all this too too pernickety?? (Your notmilk website is BRILLIANT by the way.)

Name: CARMEN
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-02-01 18:40:00
Comments: THE BABY TEST The ultimate proof of our bodies inability to tolerate milk is to observe the new born. They do not lie & have no political agendas. When my baby was born, he had an infection that required hospitalization & antibitotics. He was fed formula, against my will. I wanted to give him the colostrum that i was pumping, but i was told by the nurses, (sit down for this one)....to "THROW IT AWAY since it was not Real Milk".(Frankfurt University Hospital, Germany).

My child looked bloated, red, puffy, & was gaining too much weight, plus he spit up constantly & smelled awful. Having so many antibiotics & formula was hard on his body. After the first week i demanded to start breast feeding. His color changed, he lost weight, stopped spitting up, & he smelled much better. They were supposed to feed him breast milk at night, which i left, but i know they fed him formula, since it was much faster & easier. The proof was in the pudding so to say.

Breast milk is almost all digested, whereas formula is not, plus the diapers stink alot worse. So i knew they fed him formula about 80% at night. Probably threw breast milk away.

My mom who bottle fed both of us, kept saying he did not have that baby smell! That "baby smell" was that of rotting formula. The only time a breast fed baby spits up is when the mother eats something the baby has a difficult time digesting. In my case it was chocolate, only then he would spit up. How many times do i see bottle fed babies spitting up half of their formula, that is considered normal! If a breast fed baby would do this the mother would worry that there was something wrong. So observe your baby since we have alot to learn from them.


Name: Melissa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Illinois
Time: 2000-01-30 07:08:46
Comments: I've been a vegetarian for about 4 1/2 years now. I gave up milk and dairy products three years ago, I just didn't have a taste for them anymore. I switched to soy milk instead. Now, having read your book (and looking forward to the next) I realize I made a very smart decision! I have loaned out my copy of Milk: The Deadly Poison countless times. Thank you for caring and for actually doing something about this nightmare situation!

Name: Russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ohio
Time: 2000-01-28 23:06:50
Comments: great ideas-if you have a mailing list, please put me on it. thanks Russ

You got it! :-)
Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: HORTON
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-01-28 04:04:41
Comments: Robert, Thank you for your honesty, and the clarification. Life is a long & we learn along the way. I was just really surprised, and then confused. Can you update part of the book, or make a revised printing? The problem is people without internet acess, might still hear the "old message", & after so much effort I think it would be a shame. Glad to see you are feeling better. Maybe make reference to this on your site somewhere so people who buy book for others, can relay new message.

The follow-on book is called "Elsiesfable", is about twice as
thick.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Ally
Website: Ally
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ohio
Time: 2000-01-28 02:29:25
Comments: Ok...let me get this straight. You don't want us to drink milk because its harmful to us, the enviroment, cows, etc.? Then why have we been doing it for centuries?

Ally at ally.com? That is real interesting considering that
your IP address 209.115.70.213 IS in Ohio... but it belongs
to American Febo Enterprises. There IS an ally.com but that
is way out in Las Vegas. A friend you are not, and honesty
does not seem to be your forte.

OK... now for your comment.

Milk has been the SOURCE of emergency food reserves (butter
and cheese) for several hundred years... but only by scattered
groups of people in a few countries.

Back then there was no pasteurization, no refrigeration, and
no mass transportation. Whatever was left over after feeding
the newborn calf was collected... and quickly churned into
butter. Only small amounts could be collected, and it was made
into butter and cheese and stored away in cellars before it
could turn rotten. For the most part it was use as emergency
food stock (high in energy ladened FAT) for cold hard winters.
Butter, you should know, IS 100% fat. Whole milk has 3.5%
fat... which constitutes 49% of the calories in milk. The
misleading 2% milk has fat that provides around 35% of the
calories.

The dairy cow of today is kept lactating for the greater part
of a year (vice a couple of months) and through consuming
bathtubs of water and lots of cheap feed (all too often made
up of grain scraps, blood from their ancestors and other
critters, and chicken dung). Farmers who don't use Monsanto's
Posilac growth hormone shot (less then half, now) have cows
that produce up to TEN TIMES what the cow created a hundred
years ago... and those that get the shot increase that 40
quarts to up to 55 quarts a day. That means more infections
(and more antibiotics to control them), more blood and pus
in the milk, up to 80% more of that powerful growth hormone
called IGF-1... fingered as being a KEY factor in the rapid
growth and proliferation of cancers. And, of course, the
cow "burns out" much faster.

If you check the stats you will discover that few of the 180+
countries consume much milk. Japan didn't, until after we
concurred them.... and now the have similar problems like us...
including earlier sexual maturity, taller, fatter, and with
zits. According to WHO (World Health Organization) 95% of
black in the world are lactose intolerant, and around 53% of
Latinos are intolerant. That says a lot! The white race
came from the few countries that have used some milk, butter
and cheese for centuries... and they have evolved with a
tolerance to the many problems that come from ingesting
cow's milk.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: HORTON
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-01-27 08:32:13
Comments: I mean what i said And I said what I meant... An elephant's faithful ONE HUNDRED PER CENT!

1998

"... I add a little Parmesan cheese...put mozzarrella on our chicken....sour cream for vegtable or onion dip when we entertain....buy a pint of ice cream for the girls...spread cream cheese on our bagels."

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Horton,

You were the 'Dr. Seuss' elephant who hatched an egg and became parent to a little bird.

Not only did I hatch an egg, but I laid one too, and now I have a bit of egg on my face!

When I wrote "MILK-The Deadly Poison" I occasionally used milk products as a condiment. Telling the truth may be perceived as a mistake to some people , but it reflected where I was in 1997 when that passage was written. If anything, it reflects how difficult it is to give up delicious tasting pus with hormones and glue.

Today I eat absolutely no dairy products. I eat no meat, and I eat no eggs! We all are on a journey, continuing to learn. Those who stop learning, and stop changing, are the ones who die before they are 'born.'.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: jessie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-01-27 07:54:07
Comments: What about goat milk? Is it as bad as taking cow's milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jessie,

Goat's milk is the perfect drink for baby goats.

Goat's milk contains hormones and proteins that are allergenic to humans.

Drink human breast milk, dog's milk, and pig's milk, ok? Now, wouldn't that be silly?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alithia
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: World Citizen
Time: 2000-01-24 19:25:32
Comments: Q:I was told by a government doctor expert in the field of CJD, (I do not know his qualifications) that "infectious prion protein can be inactivated under proper conditions by soaking instruments in household clorox for 30 mins followed by boiling for 30 mins;treatment with 1N sodium hydroxyde and autoclaved;and other methods."

Is this true? That easy? Other articles i have read address the difficulty of sterilization of instruments.

Also, on page 282 of your book, you mention Carleton Gajdusek. Can you tell us more about him? Is he out? Could he verify the above statment?

Thank you, & eat low on the food chain.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Alithia,

PRIONS (the infectious agents responsible for CJD or Mad Cow Disease) can be passed from cow to human in bone meal (careful about working that spade in your garden). These infectious protein particles cannot be destroyed by 1000 degree heat.

PRIONS can also be found in the flesh of infected animals. Be sure and ask the Burger King chef to sterilize his spatula!

PRIONS are also contained within the body fluids of infected animals. Do they sterilize plastic spoons at Ben & Jerry's?

Be on the safe side! Adult tofu creatures do not pass on PRIONS to their tofu children or to humans.

As for Gadjusek, he was wrongly imprisoned, served his jail time in a federal prison, and now lives in Europe.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: wendy K
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From:
Time: 2000-01-22 02:29:32
Comments: what do you think about drinking soy milk or even powdered baby formula?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Wendy,

I think that soy milk is delicious and nutritious. However, powdered baby formula makes me gag. I prefer my baby formula straight up...

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 2000-01-21 22:02:51
Comments: I see colostrum advertised in health magazines and on a health talk radio station. I understand colostrum is a part of the cow's milk that is fed to the calf. Is this supplement as bad as the whole milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

It's worse! Colostrum contains ENORMOUS quantities of powerful growth hormones. Many health magazines would do anything for money, and in accepting such ads, they sacrifice their integrity.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 2000-01-21 21:51:52
Comments: It had been about one year since I went off of most dairy products. I tried to drink milk again last fall and wound up with a sinus cold. No more milk for me! I can breathe easier now and instead of drinking milk at meals I blend some vegetables together. Hope you can get on TV to offset some of those bizarre "Got Milk" ads. It really makes me sick to see the lies they are perpetuating with these ads. Too bad those actors that do the ads don't realize the harm they are doing to the people gullible enough to fall for them.

Name: Jillian
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: San Francisco
Time: 2000-01-21 16:04:27
Comments: I used to drink about a gallon and a half of milk a week and thought it odd that my Dr said I needed to take calcium! I was surfing nutritional websites and found yours. I will NEVER purchase dairy again!!! I've been vegan for 3 months and never felt better. Keep up the good work!

Name: Mario Teran
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Venezuela
Time: 2000-01-21 04:32:28
Comments: I have not read your book "Milk The Deadly Poison" but what I have read and listened to (lectures broadcasted on the radio) is quite impressive. Prior to coming across Robert Cohen's information I was well aware of the fact that milk is poison. I learned this from the wisest man on earth refered to as Neter A'afereti:Atum-re (Egiptian name), check his website at www.egiptianmysteries.com.(yes, Egipt is the proper spelling find out why at his website). He has been teaching undisputable fact for 30 years and has always told him not believe him, check it out! You probably haven't heard from him because his frekles are too close; however, he teaches truth beyond doubt. Your information provides an exellent research source and I am proud to see a Nubian brother step up like you have. Keep kickin' the facts and your life will flourish with reality. You have taught me several things I didn't know like the fact that they put casein in tuna and your revelations about the dairy ads are both quite entertaining and informative. However, aviod the extremes becuase health food nuts are also in the grave. You must have some processed foods in your diet in order to adapt to poisons in case healthier food becomes scarce. Also, keep in mind that purchasing milk substitutes shows that a person still needs milk. They (mainly the Media) have sublimanally seduced our minds making the addiction to milk both a psychological dependancy as well as a physiological one (not to say you should't use milk substitutes). It is also sad that they, like what they do with pork, put milk into everything so theey can to poison us. A nice read is "Afican Holistic Health by Afrika. Llaika, check it out. You can email me at the adress listed above to share information or let me know about any lectures you might be giving in the Boston area. Peace! Keep up the good work ............................................................

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-01-19 03:14:16
Comments: Want to see in detail the illegal antibiotics & other substances used or attempted to be used on cows for your self?..See www.fda.gov/foi/warning.htm Remember these were the very few who got caught. Then go down past the Recalls, (this will be difficult)click on SEARCH WARNING LETTERS BY SUBJECT, then click "C" for information about CATTLE/FOOD, view in detail what they used. (I also clicked on "B" for blood(human), since i am interested in learning more about the testing of our blood supply in light of Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease. If you are interested in CJD, and at the present time we all should be see www.mad-cow.org, another very interesting but more scientific site on this same subject is http://cjdfoundation.org I just bought the Mad Cowboy, by Howard Lyman & can't wait to read it after visiting these sites. I found one link in Australia & i was their first visitor. This needs much more coverage. Side tracked again....... Any way go back to fda page & go further down to USDA FOOD SAFETY & INSPECTION, here is a detailed comprehensive lists of illnesses & recalls for the USA. Where?, What? & Who?... Read them if you need any further evidence as to why we should stay away from animal products all together. I notice no veggies were recalled. Keep spreading the word.

Name: sandy harrison
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA/MA
Time: 2000-01-18 19:40:13
Comments: keep fighting!

Name: Toni
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 2000-01-16 09:39:14
Comments: Live a little...everybody dies.....it's where you go when you die that counts...not how long you can stretch out a life on this earth...are you ready for eternity with Christ..........????

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Toni,

You and I have a different belief and philosophy.

I believe that it is what you do every day that really counts, not what happens after you die. I often gauge my reaction to an event on how I imagine a group of history's great prophets would have reacted to a similar scenario.

Imagine, if you will:

Jesus, Mohammed, and Moses visit a modern-day slaughterhouse where 2,000 cows had their throats slashed in assembly-line fashion. You are then priveleged to attend a panel discussion and listen to their comments. What wisdom do you imagine you would hear?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: manuel h
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: oxnard calif.
Time: 2000-01-16 03:30:29
Comments: great site

Name: katie marshall
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: seattle washington
Time: 2000-01-16 00:07:17
Comments: how long have you been a vegan? Have you writen a book at all? if you have not you really should think about doing so!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Katie,

It's been three years! My fist book was:

MILK-The Deadly Poison

My second book should be out within the month:

ELSIE'S FABLE

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Advocate
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-01-15 20:42:11
Comments: I saw your picture. It looks like your could use a nice refreshing glass of healthy milk. Not sermon, just a thought.......don't preach to me. Have a nice day.

Name: Louise Larabie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ontario, Canada
Time: 2000-01-15 18:17:43
Comments: One of the problems I found with your substitutes for milk is they were cooked. I believe it is the cooking process that causes the problems with illness and degeneration. Some recipes can be changed to raw like the almond milk one. Eating raw almonds is very good as it has raw protein and calcium. For pet’s raw bones is the best way for them to get their calcium. There is a big movement to feed Biologically Appropriate Raw Foods diet affectionately called BARF :o)))) My dog when from a poor prospect for a pet (hyper, very itchy and suffering from "dry eye" which is lack of tears and often leads to ulceration of the eye. In 4 days of grains, cooked combined starches and protein called kibble and on a raw meaty bone diet she calmed down was more attentive and her eyes and skin got better and went on to get best in show. I started to eat more and more raw foods and I lost 12 pounds of fluid (had pitted edema) and now down 40 pound as a side effect of eating MORE food and even adding fats (from the raw nuts and flaxseed oil) I feel better now at 53 than when I was 26 (I felt like I was 95 then) Had arthritis, phlebitis, low thyroid, cysts, acne, cramps, poor memory, so tired I would have to take a nap to stay up till 9:30 PM. So not only should you avoid pasteurized milk (raw milk you can get if you buy a share of ownership in a cow or goat) the law has been written so the farmer cannot sell raw milk otherwise. I don't think we need raw milk but at least the protein is more natural and your body can use it. Cooked foods are treated by the body like a poison so all you have said about milk in my opinion can be said about cooked foods. If you are tired all the time switch over to raw food, read "Fit for Life and Fit for Life II" for some of the basics information on digestion (keep working at eliminating grains and cooked foods and increasing the amount of raw) I have so much better health. Read up on the subject as eating raw the wrong way (poorly combined) can cause even more problems or gas and diarreha

Name: Marvin Ferrell
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Boise, Idaho
Time: 2000-01-14 20:16:57
Comments: I agree. It's unnatural for adult humans to drink the milk of a different mammal. It's just not natural. Certainly not as natural as peanut butter, television, computers, toilets, bread, zippers, paint, and a thousand other things that you will find growing on trees in a totally natural environment. So let's go back to nature, where we wouldn't drink milk, or cook food, or wash our bodies, or live in houses. Now that's living!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Marvin? Your dripping sarcasm is delightful. Who am I to disagree with your logic? Let's all toast the taste of the bubbly white stuff: How about a 12 ounce glass of human breast milk with your next PB & J sandwich? No? Sounds disgusting, huh? Perhaps instinctively, the ape in you realizes that human milk is loaded with immunoglobulins, lactoferrins, and hormones.

Have billions of dollars of dairy industry brainwashing dollars convinced you that cow's milk does not contain similar substances?

Put that thinking cap on, Marvin.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tam
Website: Living Life
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Tampa
Time: 2000-01-14 09:05:58
Comments: I appreciate the information...I am vegan and see the world dairy free in the near future. Namaste.

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ohio
Time: 2000-01-14 06:34:59
Comments: Well i want to know what happened to all those dairy boys of the fall class of '80, at the University of Wisconsin Madison? Do you remember me?

One of the handful of women in the class, the only one not from a dairy farm. You guys sure asked alot of questions about anibiotics in the milk in those days. I also saw lots of snickers & rolling eyes when the profesor said, you could not find any traces in the milk. They never did give us any studies on this, did they?

I remember them also saying, that eggs had no harmful cholesterol..now i ain't no corn fed dame, but that sure sounded like a bunch of hogwash even then.

Remember the field trip we all took to try & guess the amount of body fat & marbeling each animal had while alive, so we could compare to see if we were right after they were slaughtered? A cow , a pig & i think a sheep.

After we inspected & made notes, they measured the pigs fat(i remember the pig screaming when they measured his fat on his back by inserting a sharp blade with a measurer, sure sounded like a human being tortured.) Not being from a farm you see, i had never heard that, but you all laughed. I guess that is farm humor.

A few moments later they were sawed in half, gutted & skinned & hanging neatly from a hook. Nice. They even let you boys skip the dirties part. I was a vegetarian at the time, so i really had wished they would have made us watch.

I learned from you that animals are fed cement in their feed before going to slaughter so they weigh more. I saw how the udders are dipped in some purple iodine looking fluid before the machine gets attached. Antibacterial, & who knows what else since we were never told.

I did learn that cows had 4 stomachs & ruminated. You should have seen the cows at the experimental station, they kept a gasket on the cows side so you could unscrew the cap,(similar to a large gas tank lid) & put your hand inside to see how the cow was digesting the latests concoction of what you all call feed. Not much was spoken abou this, just a lot of talk about putting weight on, growing, fast & increasing milk.

Also remember studying in detail the skeletal system,& the hormones. We studied alot about the hormones that the cows had, that make them ovulate, lactate, etc. I remembered that they were identical to humans, in the way they functioned etc. I learned more about my hormones in this class than in any other health class. They work just like women's, finally smething useful.

I really felt for those poor cows working all day, getting their teats yanked on all day, while tied down. No wonder they mood in protest. I always wondered what would happen if the machine latched on improperly, who would know? how much pain would the cow have?.....

Of course you boys can not identify with the female pain, as i now a breast feeding mother can. But what i remember most clearly was the day we did disections.

Specifically, the day they brought in Bull's testicles on a tray. (the purpose of this is still unknown, since this was not a vet class). Well you boys were as white as sheets, when they lifted up those bloody testacles for all to see. You could have heard a pin drop. Remember the guy who got weak knees & fell to the floor only to be lifted by other sympathetic macho dairy men?

I was the only one laghing then,...now there was the first time that had seen these boys even consider that cows were breathing living things, that endured pain just like the rest of us.

Are you guys who pass out at the sight of blood, the same ones who are threatening Robert?

Needless to say after that experience i got out of the Agriculture school,& majored in Sociology.(The study of humans, for you dairy boys).

I wonder what would have happened if i would have taken Poultry science?


Name: Thomas
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NY
Time: 2000-01-14 05:53:53
Comments: Hello. I heard about this on WFAN The Fan 66 am radio. I was very interested in your research. I would like to know how to get the book. Please e-mail me. -tom-

Name: Tony Gutierrez III, D.C.
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Arlington,WA
Time: 2000-01-14 04:16:54
Comments: Great sight. I have been telling people for years how toxic milk is, despite my lack of research. This sight seems to have it.

Name: Brian R. Covey, D.C.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington state
Time: 2000-01-13 04:24:47
Comments: Keep up the good work, I sure appreciate the use of valid information I can obtain from here.

Name: katie marshall
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Seattle,Washington
Time: 2000-01-12 09:58:32
Comments: I could be wrong, I can't rember the name of the author, I think it is you. Did you write the book Mad cowboy?

NOTMILKMANS COMMENT:

Dear Katie,

I would love to take credit for that BRILLIANT book, but credit goes to Howard Lyman.

Howard will be joining me on my hunger strike. His book, MAD COWBOY can be ordered on Amazon.com.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dr. Rosalynne Stampfes
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Seattle
Time: 2000-01-12 08:48:31
Comments: Heard you on the Seattle station coming home tonight. I've been preaching this for years....and of course we love it when we find someone who can back up w/hard colds facts the beliefs we already spout:) Will order your book for my clinic. Thanks for being... Sincerely, Rosalynne

Name: Julienne Athanas
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Evanston, IL
Time: 2000-01-11 10:21:01
Comments: I was glad to be introduced to this URL. It is scarey that more Americans don't speak out against Genetic Engineering in foods. I for one would like to become as informed as possible to make my own choices, not have them made for me. I want to see better labeling and labeling we can trust. I try to buy organic when I can. Thanks.

Name: Jenny
Website: The Revival Fellowship
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-01-10 16:23:30
Comments: Dear Robert, Hello again. I was just thinking. If Monsanto stop using Posilac, (which will be great), how will that change the fact that people will still die from breast cancer? While people continue to drink milk they are still putting themselves at risk of getting cancer. How do we try to get the whole world to listen? How do you stop people from drinking milk? It's the same as people who smoke, we know how deadly smoking is and that it causes cancer, yet people still continue to smoke knowing this fact.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jenny,

Most people never obtain an advanced degree in PHILOSOPHY because they forget to sign up for a pre-requisite course:

LOGIC-101

People will continue to drink milk and smoke cigarettes, despite mounting evidence that neither does the body any good.

At one time, cigarette companies ran commercials with physicians endorsing smoking. Today the milk industry does the same.

Who says prostitution isn't legal?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jenny
Website: The Revival Fellowship
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-01-10 15:37:57
Comments: Dear Robert, Thanks for answering my question. I have another 2 questions I would like to ask. The bovine growth hormone in American milk is putting people at risk of getting cancer. The countries that don't use bovine growth hormone in their milk, are they still putting their people at risk of getting cancer? Is the rate of getting cancer higher if people drink milk that has bovine growth hormone in it?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jenny,

The nations with the highest rates of breast cancer include Denmark, Norway, Holland, and Sweden. These nations do not use the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone (rbGH), but they do have higher rates of breast cancer than does the United States.

Cow's milk naturally contains hormones.

Milk from cows treated with rbGH contains increased levels of those same powerful hormones.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jenny
Website: The Revival Fellowship
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-01-09 13:24:02
Comments: Dear Robert, Just a quick question. In Australia they have banned using bovine growth hormone. Is our cow's milk just as harmful as America's genetically modified version?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jenny,

Eighty percent of the protein in the milk from your cows contains CASEIN, a tenacious glue.

Each sip of Australian milk contains 59 different bioactive hormones.

Your cow's milk is naturally loaded with fat and cholesterol.

Would you drink kangaroo milk or koala bear milk or even human breast milk? Each substance is nature's perfect food for the young of that specific species.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: george g silva
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: perth amboy NJ.
Time: 2000-01-09 11:31:59
Comments: i fully agree with you 100% the milk lobby is too powerful to crack .i I am sick of seeing all those moustaches..

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear George,

We're winning, and that's the bottom line! Congress may not work, and the media may not report the truth, but the wholesale price of milk continues to drop because people are drinking less of it!

This financial tragedy is becomming a wake-up call to the dairy industry. Last year at this time, farmers were getting over $17 for 100 pounds of milk. Today they receive $9.63 per hundredweight.

This will be a cold, hard winter for dairymen. They have gotten our message, along with consumers as the price of milk drops in direct proportion to milk consumption.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carmen Cubillo
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-01-08 20:55:19
Comments: Found your site through the TOTNES GENETICS GROUP SITE, an excellent site for GE information and activism.(In England) I am writing to as many people i can about this subject. Have been surfing trying to find groups that might be interested in joining, such as people interested in gardening, alternative health care practiotioners, folks in the the organic movement, breast feeding groups, midwifes, etc. Urge all to do same. We need to especially target schools, that is where the milk industry is heavily pushing the stuff to our kids.

Read article stating milk consumption was down by 40%, but TWO NEW TYPES OF LOW-FAT and NO FAT MILK have been invented, by the New Jersey based Farmland Industries. Any info. on this? Farmland Dairies' Special Request Skim Plus and 1%Plus. These are suppossed to taste closer to whole milk, with more protein, & more calcium, so people will drink more. They claim no chemicals or hormones. In new Jersey, no less, the head quarters of the notmilk movement. Coincidence????

Finally, this osteoperosis thing ends with me, I refuse to pass the problem on to my kids.As my mom always says,"we did not know then," well we know now!

Glad to see site back was a little worried.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Carmen,

Farmland sucessfully markets a milk/soy product, but they did not "invent" the process. A company named "COOL COW" approached the FARMLAND company with a formula, and asked them to mix and container their product. FARMLAND altered the formula, stole the idea, and put the COOL COW company out of business.

All's fair in love, war, and milk marketing.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Penni Royston
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 1999-12-29 09:34:23
Comments: I gave up dairy after reading Marilu Henner's book Total Health Makeover. I've been using rice or almond milk as a substitute and canola margarine instead of butter. Just the thought of dairy makes my stomach turn now. I just wish that the public schools would offer a healthy alternative to milk for lunch. At my daughter's school we have to pay extra for juices (which really is not 100% juice anyway). There are no substitutes offered for those students who are lactose intolerant.

Name: Gary R. Dubin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Pemroke Pines, Florida
Time: 1999-12-26 16:43:44
Comments: We operate a chain of health food stores in Southern Florida with plans to expand nationwide over the next yeear or two. First openings will be Georgia, Texas, Illinois and Minesota. We have a good opportunity to educate many health oriented people on the dangers of milk as a source of Calcium. We sell a tremendous amount of supplements for Calcium including generics for Oscal, Citrical and Caltrate plus one we recomend that includes magnesium and zinc. All are very inexpensive and provide calcium. We also have the newer bone builders containing ostivone from Natrol, Twin and Natures Pride.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Gary,

Good luck with your stores!

Human breast milk contains 33 mg of calcium per 100 gram portion. That is the perfect formula for baby humans!

I hope that your stores also carry calcium-rich foods such as amaranth, hummus, tahini, and fresh dark green organically grown vegetables!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: grant lawrence
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: waterville, oh
Time: 1999-12-26 08:32:09
Comments: interesting,i had heard of the milk controversy from listening to canandian radio over the internet. the corporate controlled media is going to find it harder to control information. i am a vegetarian and i am now wondering about the use of milk. thanks for the info.

Name: helen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: UK
Time: 1999-12-26 07:39:15
Comments: Been vegan for yrs; v glad too, now I see so clearly in your excellent website what I had only had glimpses of before. Keep up the good work! Think I found website from reading anti GM e-mail, but 1 hr in, I can't remember! I can see in the growth of a son's friend how dairy & meat is geared to rearing big brawny calves, not humans. I breast fed my children until they weaned naturally, aged 3 & 6! - saved any worries about "are they getting enough calcium?" etc! La Leche League is an excellent supportive group of breastfeeding (also have excellent ideas on children & parenting generally). Bye!

Name: Karuna Wang
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Jakarta, Indonesia
Time: 1999-12-24 10:02:41
Comments: I haven't really surfed this site yet, but i think -if have finished surfing/checking it-, i will would like to thanks each of you who has made this site available. Thank you.

Name: Ginger
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 1999-12-22 08:51:59
Comments: I happened to stumble on to Robert Cohen's notmilk page after watching a video encouraging people to consider a vegan lifestyle. I love to do research on what I hear and read, so I decided to look into meat and milk. WOW! I was shocked at the truth that Robert's site brought to light! My family and I were HUGE milk consumers. Let me stress the word "were". Thanks to Robert and the Lord, my eyes have been opened! Let me tell you, the dairy industries profits are really falling now! We used to be our Schwans sales rep's best dairy consuming clients, with our purchase of 3-6 rings of cheese bread, sour cream potatoes, 3 lbs of cheese tortellini, and more than 10 gallons of ice cream a month. And we did our best to keep the local pizzaria in business with bi-weekly visits! We had milk or some sort of dairy at EVERY meal. And we were spending almost $1000 a month on food. NO MORE! :) Our lives have really changed. And it wouldn't have happened without Robert's site and his voice. I have listened to his radio interview more times than I can count. I want it etched forever in my mind. I am so thankful for the knowledge I have obtained so that I was able to make an intelligent and informed decision. My hope is that many other people will find the truth and obtain good health in the process, by making intelligent changes and choices for their future. God bless you and all of the hungerstrikers efforts!

Name: Chuck Lawhead
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Boulder, Colorado
Time: 1999-12-21 08:05:14
Comments: It is truly not so wonderful a thing to find that your own personal suffering has been shared by many... but the knowledge gives me comfort nonetheless. I am pleased now to have a book that I can pass along to my family (I have siblings with toddlers right now) in the hope that I can help spare them and their children the wretched symptoms that I had grown to accept as "normal" - severe chest pains, inability to smell things, virtually continuous congestion... I'll stop there. But this next one's funny: when a doctor prescribed a fiber laxative for me some 10+ years ago, I began taking it twice a day with a large glass of milk! Hah hah hah! It kills me! How do you like your poison?!!! Anonymous readers out there: get this one message clearly - you have to stop consuming this poison to see it for what it is.

Name: Debbie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Nova Scotia, Canada
Time: 1999-12-21 07:02:36
Comments: I want to comment on Robert Weidenhammer's post. I have to wonder about the "degree in animal science". He said "These hormones are species specific to begin with. These hormones are also taken in orally which in no way effects the human body." An interesting comparison is a drug commonly used by women to treat symptoms of menopause. It is called Premarin (derived from PRegnant MARes' urINe). It is horse-estrogen, is taken orally by women and, in small amounts, it has a major effect on the human body.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Debbie,

'Species specific' has its own very special meaning when applied to milk hormones. The most powerful growth hormone in a cow's body (IGF-I) is identical to the most powerful growth hormon in the human body. How is that for evidence of Mother Nature's marvelous sense of humor?

When cows are injected with the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone, levels of IGF-I in their milk increase by about eighty percent. When humans drink milk, levels of IGF-I in their blood serum inrease by 10%.

Regards,

he NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kathryn Wigglesworth
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Canada
Time: 1999-12-19 06:53:59
Comments: A lot of stuff here I never would have guessed. Absolutely mortified.

Name: Robert and Caara Stoney
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Georgia, USA and Ireland
Time: 1999-12-18 05:37:13
Comments: Excellent stuff. This is as important to our freedom, independence and basic human rights as that for which the founding fathers fought two and quarter centuries ago.

Name: Jasper
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: The Netherlands
Time: 1999-12-15 03:02:06
Comments: Hi, I like your site. I'm a vegetarian and i'm thinking about not drinking milk too. If you have drinked milk all your life, do you need to have alternatives?

   First and foremost... as a vegetarian you should have been told that due to the high protein content (and other goodies) milk can be considered "liquid meat".

   Alternative for what... the

  • 59 hormones? -- None are desirable or wise to consume.
  • 100 allergens? -- Better off removed. Use the casein to repair the chair.
  • herbicides? -- Keep them far away or they may stunt YOUR growth.
  • pesticides? -- Use very sparingly... and not as a drink.
  • feces? -- Uh! No thanks
  • blood? -- Got plenty of my own
  • fat? -- Thanks to milk and dairy I am still about 30% fat
  • cholesterol? -- Who needs clogged plumbing?
  • bacteria? -- Hey... we already have too many!
  • pus cells? -- I shudder to wonder how many zillions I have consumed!
  • PCB's, dioxin's and more? -- Talk about icing on the "cake".
  • calcium? -- Not very usable without magnesium... wasted money.

   Did you know that milk is 87% water? A gallon is 128 ounces or 16 8-oz. cups/glasses. Of the 16 cups in a gallon of "milk"... almost 14 of them consist of VERY EXPENSIVE water! Remove all the above "goodies" from a gallon of "milk" and you will end up with 111.36 ounces of natures truly PERFECT beverage... water!

   Cereal? That was something invented to help sell milk (similar to "Twinkies"... see http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html... and this page is also a good overview on calcium). Think fruit, grains, nuts... all those striped down items they stuff into cereal to make it sound better and seem more nutritional. Check the labels... and wonder what a lot of that stuff is and what it is doing to your body and brain (such as MSG... monosodium glutamate see http://www.truthinlabeling.org).

Alternative for something to wash down food?

   If you really NEED to drown something before you consume it... try nut, coconut, rice or soy milks. (see http://www.notmilk.com/altmilk.html for more info). Buy a Soymaker and make your own for pennies a gallon. Need words from the experts... visit http://www.notmilk.com/newmilk.html for a "starter kit" and books on this subject.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Bob
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Phoenix
Time: 1999-12-15 00:55:21
Comments: Nice page. I used to have allergies all the time until I gave up milk back in 92. I had read something about the implausibilty that human beings could be so evolutionarily defective that we need to spend our lives drinking the milk of a cow. I haven't had any allegy problems since. My mother who is 67 finds the smell of milk repulsive so she never drinks it. She had her bones tested for signs of osteoporisis and found that her bone density is excellent for her age! I am totally convinced that milk is the dumbest, most outrageous hoax in the world today. .

Name: Robert Weidenhammer
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: PA
Time: 1999-12-14 16:40:09
Comments: As a dairy farmer and a graduate of Delaware Valley College with a degree in animal science i find it hard to believe that people actually believ this stuff. Ever thing you say is true to a point. When it rains is the sky really falling? Yes it is but we are educated enough that we do not blow it out of proportion. Yes there are hormones in milk, but these hormones are species specific to begin with. These hormones are also taken in orally which in no way effects the human body. The body sees these hormones as protein strands and they are simply broken up, we do not have the ability to absorb such long protein strands into the blood. Next I would like to talk about the "puss" in milk. Puss is nothing more than white blood cell grouped together. White blood cells are found in everthing from our own saliva to yes even milk. The problem is that you call these naturally occuring cells puss and people get the image of an infected wound dripping with yellow slim and that is not at all the case. If anyone here wants to hear the facts feel free to email me with your questions but please dont listen to all of the garbage you can find on the internet. thank you.

   Nice try, Robert... but YOU are the deceiver here (not of your making, though).

   First... how many hormones in a tomato (non-GE'ed, of course). How many in a carrot, apple, cranberry, whole wheat or a Brazil nut? Guess what. Since there are NONE, then we don't have to worry about "do they or don't they survive digestion".

   Second, your "The body sees these hormones as protein strands and they are simply broken up" is a lie. The FDA used it, and now they, TOO, have been proven to be liars.

   http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html is Robert Cohen's article "THE DAIRY INDUSTRY SELF-DESTRUCTS" where he says "The FDA approved the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone after concluding that IGF-I was destroyed in the stomach. According to FDA, it is not possible that milk consumption would result in an increase of IGF-I in the human body." (Please note that by this pronouncement the FDA proved that breast feeding does NOT work!:-)

   Robert Heaney, MD with the Journal of the American Dietetic Association did an extensive test (rigged to prove those who drink more milk have better bones). A sidelight of that test is his finding that those who consumed 3 (vice 1.5) glasses of milk a day had TEN PERCENT MORE IGF-1... in their blood. Only 12 more ounces of milk equates to this significant rise! IGF-1... a powerful GROWTH HORMONE that the medical establishment says is a KEY FACTOR, in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate, colon and lung cancers. (Oh! ... And this hormone IS IDENTICAL between cow's and humans).

   Hey, Robert... why bother checking out the OTHER 58 hormones???? The verdict is IN... get rid of cow's milk in the diet because it was meant to be an emergency nutritional "starter-pack" for a newborn CALF, complete with SPECIES SPECIFIC formulations AND species specific lactoferrins and immunoglobulins. The protein lactalbumin, a key factor in diabetes, is the primary reason cow's milk is no longer recommended for children under the age of ONE.

   As to your "Puss is nothing more than white blood cell grouped together". Pus are DEAD white cells. They DIED doing their job fighting infection or disease. Except for an open and festering wound on a human body... please indicate where you think you might find up to 20,000 somatic cells per CC. When was the last time you sucked a pus laden sore for the taste? Especially a sore on a cow's body!

   So much for your degree from Delaware Valley College. Common sense seems to be worth much more than that piece of paper. As a prostate cancer victim I only wish I had been provided the WHOLE truth many years ago! IGF-1 did what it was supposed to do... made things grow. As the first among my ancestors to get any form of cancer.. it was declared to be in the terminal stage (already spread) at the young age of 55.

   Common sense says that your mom weaned you for good reasons. The calf's mother weaned IT for good reasons.

   That gives rise to a valid question: "Why are humans still nursing the polluted juices from diseased animals?" (Good for businesses, right? Yours, the medical system... morticians)

   If it is "OK" from a cow... and perhaps a goat, why not from a skunk, rat, horse or elephant? Human breast milk is mother natures "perfect" version for human babies. Why not cut to the chase and keep human mothers lactating all the time?

   Your soothing disinformation will not cut it, Robert. Especially when you add herbicides, pesticides, PCB's, dioxin's (and concentrated anything ELSE the cow ate), 49% of calories in FAT, enough cholesterol per 3 glasses of milk to equal 19 slices of bacon per day, viruses, perhaps some TB and Prions... and more.

   Oh, and of course, that calcium gimmick is so fraudulent that it should overshadow all the other lies. Cow's get an abundance of calcium from green plants. Plants that have the all important magnesium necessary to USE calcium for their systems. Cow's milk has little if any magnesium. Worse, Robert, 80% of the protein in milk is casein (better used as a polymer for plastics or as furniture glue... not as a powerful mucus maker for humans). This could qualify milk as a "liquid meat" which, when added to all the other large amounts of protein Americans eat may well LEACH calcium from the body.

   As one farm boy to another I say go back to college, Robert. But wait until the professors learn the WHOLE truth, so that they can pass it on to you and your children.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Robert H Davis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Dayton,Ohio.
Time: 1999-12-13 23:02:12
Comments: I found you because I heard you on WYSO book review, bought your book , and saw your web page address . I have been involved in ways to fight the yeast bacteria in the human for more than 15 years. I thought sugar was the primary food for candidia but maybe milk fit better. I rember when as a child I drank plenty fo milk, used half&half on my cereal, ate a pint of icecream each day on the way home from football practice so I would gain weight and body mass. Yes I Had acne, pimples and blackheads. most of the scars have now gone away. I still have small pockets of white stuff uder my facial skin. this itches after I drink a sugared water such as soda pop, fruit drinks , alcohl, milk, or eat foods that contain such. A symptom I have , tinitis, resumes when I eat these foods. Any way, I know of a way that can quikly restore the health to any human and many animals . It proves that you are on the right track. At most hospitals pathologest take sample tissue from those who die at the hospital from old age and other problems relating to old age. What is common is all no longer have the good bacteria that we cannot live without. The yeast bacteria has taken over the space in the intestins and the lining cannot absorb nutriants and we actually die of malnutrition. One sympton is when the root of this yeast, called candidia, grows thru the linning it makes a path for raw food to enter the blood stream directly. When the body sugar is low the root shrinks and the yeast dumps toxin into the blood stream training us to feed the yeast. That is a hunger pain.That is mostlikly when we are most vunerable to allergeys. That is the way IGF gets into our blood. Observe the young girls in school and how many milk drinkers now have large breast. It has become a visable sympton. More later. your friend . Bob Davis.

Name: Donna
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1999-12-13 11:36:46
Comments: Over the past 6-9 months I have noticed an increase in "undiagnosed" asthma symptoms ( I have been a nurse for 6 years and know what's wrong with me) Wheezing, shortness of breath, sinus and nasal congestion, and extreme lethargy. During the past week, I found out about the link between dairy and asthma. So I decided to try going dairy free, and within 48 hours I was completely clear and felt better than I have in years. Then two nights ago, I ate some cheeses and when I awoke the next morning I could barely breathe, and I am still not completely clear again. I have been searching the web trying to find out more about my situation and some ideas on what to do now. I have found your site to be the most helpful and informative. Being from the so-called "Dairy State" and a lover of cheese this won't be easy but I know that if I want to be healthy I have to do this. I was also interested to see the connection between Dairy and Diabetes, as my husband was diagnosed with this disease 6 weeks ago. Thank you for caring about people, and taking the time to make this issue heard. May God bless your endeavors, and I offer my prayers that the world finds out all this so we can at least save our grandchildren from this suffering.

Name: Tiffany
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: East Texas
Time: 1999-12-13 10:28:34
Comments: I have been allergic to milk since I was in grade school. I was constantly sick and my mother finally but the 2 together. If I drink any form of a dairy/milk product, within a few hours of consumption I have either strep-throat or tonsolitious. Therefore, I do not drink it. I have lived my life quite well without milk. I think your site is wonderful...Wish there were more people who felt the same. I admire what you do! Keep up the wonderful, informative work! Tiffany

Thank you for your guest book entry. It is crucial
that you complain to the FDA on at least one issue...
rbGH (that makes cow's milk worse from a cancer and
perhaps obesity viewpoint).

Robert Cohen has sued the FDA to remove rbGH from the
approved veterinary drugs list. This is FDA docket
number Docket 99P-4613.

Please Email fdadockets@oc.fda.gov and tell them you
support Docket 99P-4613 for the removal of rbGH from
the list of authorized drugs for cattle. Your letter
becomes a permanent part of this historical effort.

Consider Emailing COPIES of your Email to:
Jane E. Henney (jhenney@oc.fda.gov) FDA Commissioner
Dr.Andrew J. Beaulieu (abeaulie@cvm.fda.gov)

Thank you for your support.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: a friend
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-12-13 08:18:18
Comments: where did you get all this information? How many cases can you name of people actually getting cancer from milk? get real, I think you are just somebody that is very bored and has too much time on their hands. You are trying to make people think milk is bad for them? Get a life!

Thousands of substances CAUSE cancer... and we have not included milk.
However, substances like herbicides, pesticides, PCB's, dioxin's and other
known carcinogens present in milk CAN cause cancer. We DO say that the
powerful growth factor IGF-1 (identical between cow's and humans) is reported
by the medical establishment as a key factor in the rapid growth and pro-
liferation of breast, prostate, colon and lung cancers.

As to "Get a life"... thanks to learning the WHOLE truth about cow's milk and
dairy we most likely will have both a LONGER life, as well as one with fewer
medical problems (especially the major ones such as heart disease and cancer).

We have provided hundreds of pages loaded with provable facts... try reading
them with an open mind... and you, too, can benefit.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Offended Farmer
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Washington State
Time: 1999-12-13 02:59:19
Comments: What in the world are you thinking, and just out of curiosity, did you bother to do any research to back up what you present as fact? I have lived on a diary farm all of my life and can personally assure every person out there that Milk is not "PUS WITH HORMONES AND GLUE" as you said it was. You talk about antibiotics in milk and use that fact that americans eat more milk than meat to accuse farmers of "poisioning" milk. there is absolutly no corolation between the two that proves your point. Had you done propper research, you would have found that the P.M.O (pasturizzed milk ordinance) strictly regulates antibiotics in milk. EVERY DROP OF MILK THAT PASSES THROUGH A MILK PROCESSING PLANT IN THE U.S. IS TESTED, AND IF THE RESULTES ARE ANYTHING HIGHER THAN 0 PARTS PER BILLION, THEN THE ENTIRE TANK OF MILK IS DUMPED DOWN THE DRAIN, AT THE FARMERS EXPENSE. now if you'll excuse me, i need to go and milk the cows, and produce a healthy and delicious product for millions of people who can appericate what it is worth. and i do hope that when you reach you elder years, you osteoperocious dosn pain you too much

From Washington State, eh? Writing from Louisville, CO from
a friends computer? No Email address and no accountability.

So typical!

Before you open your mouth again... take some time to review the
many references (over 300) along with the other facts... including
milk tested by New York Times AND the Consumers Union... who both
found (independently) that their samples had traces of 52 different
antibiotics in them.

Do you contest the fact that the US FDA allows 20,000,000 live bacteria
and up to 750,000,000 somatic cells in "fresh" milk before it is kept
off the market?

"0 PARTS PER BILLION"? NOTHING is pure... except your above guestbook BS!

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster

Name: Jim Murphy
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 1999-12-11 01:43:58
Comments: I had already given up dairy products for several reasons before stumbling onto your site in a quest for more ammunition with which to persuade loved ones to join me. The amount of material here is staggering and the evidence so overwhelming that I don't know how any reasoning person could ignore it. However, my own family crusade is not nearly totally successful, and they are all above average in intelligence and emotional stability. I think they are wondering about me. The continuance of mother's milk throughout life satisfies a deep psychological need that no amount of reason can totally overcome. Your battle for the minds and hearts of America is as difficult as one against God and Country and may create as many enemies as though it were the same.

Name: gabrielle godling
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-12-11 01:22:54
Comments: i have been teaching others(those few who really want the truth) that milk was poison....for 15 years.....and i am very grateful for your book, it makes it much easier to talk about the deadly poison milk...any way that i can help, please let me know... thank you for your contribution to society.

Name: Wendy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-12-10 08:51:54
Comments: I haven't consumed any milk for eight years, ever since I became vegan. The thought of milk makes me sick. I was naturally destined to not drink milk from the beginning of my life. When I was a little baby I got a red rash all over my body. Luckily my mother took me to a doctor that recognized that it was a milk allergy and put me on soy formula, and the rash cleared right up. Humans are totally grossed out by the thought of drinking human breast milk as an adult, or even milk from a horse, but don't seem to flinch at the idea of drinking breast milk from a cow. It's not natural.

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: minnesota
Time: 1999-12-10 05:03:01
Comments: hello. a great pal of mine is now neutral on this subject. she's the only person who has been willing to listen to me. she's is wondering that since these briliant pediatritions say that at 1 year old they are supposed to drink whole milk for brain development, should they really do this? are doctrors aware that there are some dangers to milk consumption? why do they tell 1 year olds that they now can drink something that would have caused health problems before 1 eyar of age? why do pregnant moms drink milk then if babies less than 1 year of age cant drink the stuff? this is very confusing. do the cow hormones make it into the breast milk? thanks for your help..

Yes... all 59 hormones make the trip. But there is much more.

Here is a fairly complete list:

59 hormones -- Worst? Perhaps the powerful IGF-1 growth hormone (think cancer)
100 allergens -- Worst? Probably casein (80% of the protein) Think glue! (mucus maker)
blood -- Even under the best of conditions
feces -- Even under the best of conditions
fat -- Of the calories in whole milk 49% come from fat (35% for 2% milk)
cholesterol -- 3 glasses a day = the equivalent of 19 slices of bacon
herbicides -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
pesticides -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
dioxins -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
viruses -- (most likely many kinds of them)
up to 20,000,000 live bacteria per liter (FDA max limit)
up to 750,000,000 somatic (PUS) cells per liter (FDA max limit)
up to 52 different antibiotics (they only test for a few)
perhaps some TB (bovine mycobacterium paratuberculosis, the bacterium
linked to Johne's disease in cows and Crohn's disease in humans)
perhaps some Prions (a crystal that acts like a virus - think mad cow
disease. Perhaps 10-30 years for "incubation" for something that cannot
be destroyed by 900 degree Celsius heat)

Sixty Percent of America's dairy cows have leukemia virus.

87% of milk is WATER (mother natures truly perfect drink).

FAT CONTENT OF DAIRY PRODUCTS
as a percentage of total calories

Whole milk 49%
"2%" milk 35%*
Cheddar cheese 74%
Butter 100%

( * It is 2% fat only by weight.)

The milk of each of the over 4000 mammals on earth is formulated
specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and
immunoglobulins. In cow's milk the protein lactalbumin is considered a
key factor in diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving infant
children cows milk). Cows milk has three times the calcium as does
human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order
to be absorbed and used their should be significant quantity of
magnesium (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium
they need for their big bones). Milk has little magnesium.

80% of the protein in milk is casein. Milk can be considered as a
"liquid meat", which, when added to all the OTHER protein in an average
diet, may actually leach calcium from the bones. Countries with the
highest intake of milk and dairy have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
Milk moustaches = good bones is a milk industry myth.

Mother-natures perfect milk delivery system is directly from teet to
mouth. When anything is exposed to air the oxygen in it CHANGES things.
Metals oxidize (rust). Freshly sliced apples or pears turn brown.
Paper does a slow burn. Milk not consumed via mother natures intended
delivery system is automatically different.

There is no need in human nutrition for cow's milk. Dr. Spock (the
famous baby doctor whose books have been outsold only by the bible) said it
several years ago. Nor is the consumption of milk medically sound or
desirable. Considering that milk and dairy plays a significant role in
obesity, heart disease, cancer, asthma, diabetes, eczema, irritable
bowel syndrome, leukemia, poor digestion, lactose intolerance (according
to WHO 90% of world blacks are lactose intolerant), gas, bloating, behavioral
problems, osteoporosis, and more.

Considering that cow's milk is a fluid from diseased animals that
impacts heavily on human health ... it should NOT be considered a "taste
to die for".

Last... but not least:

Our mothers weaned us (there are excellent reasons for this)
The cow weaned her calf (practical and time tested reasons)

WHY DO HUMANS (ESSENTIALLY) NURSE FROM COWS?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MN
Time: 1999-12-08 19:24:55
Comments: are doctors taught anything about the risks of dairy consumption? just curious...

I submit that few medical doctors have much knowledge in the areas of
nutrition, bone/nerves (as in chiropratic), the human mind, herbs or vitamines.

These tend to be either overlooked, or specialties.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Mary A. Lupoli
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 1999-12-08 09:35:19
Comments: I am in absolute agreement that milk should not be consumed by children or adults. I think it's poison.

Name: Liane Casten
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Evanston, IL
Time: 1999-12-08 08:54:15
Comments: Hey, Robert, thanks a bunch for your good words when I was on deadline. Frankly, I am not at all sure E Magazine is going to print the piece--taken mainly from my book on breast cancer. (Breast Cancer: Poisons, Profits and Prevention. Common Courage press, 1996) The editor is a terrified fellow and cannot bring himself to name names--like Monsanto. He already killed a story on Waste Management I had done, because it had hit too hard. So, while I took some time to write a piece I know only too well, I will bet it won't appear. Should not stop me from trying to place it somewhere else. NOW, please be careful of your body. You cannot go on until you endanger yourself. This Jewish mother would not approve!! So, whenever a good person (like a doctor) says, "enough" ---listen. I'm impressed by your passion, not your willingness to self destruct. I really think, judging by the growing interest in GE foods, that Monsanto may be pulling back a bit, especially if the farmers are not going to buy their seeds for next year. Thanks for all you are doing. Liane

Name: Nanette Grace Taska
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Boston
Time: 1999-12-08 07:53:34
Comments: Mr Cohen, With all of my support on the rBgh issue. Big business, going tooooo far for the $$$$. Takes a person like you to "GIVE THEM HELL" I wish I could do more, but I am the small person. Take Care Mr Robert

Name: cindy liang
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: san jose, ca
Time: 1999-12-08 04:00:41
Comments: hi, I'm reading your milk poison book and am happy to find the notmilk site. both me and my husband have been vegan for about 6 mos, but we are doing it for the ethical reason. Do you happen to know if it's safe/healthy to drink cow milk or eat yogurt in India? Would you eat or feed your kids a small quantity of dairy product coming from traditional family farms? thanks, cindy.

Name: Philip Gormley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Rye, NY
Time: 1999-12-08 02:39:15
Comments: Keep up the worthy cause, and know many are behind you. Tks Phil

Name: Caitlin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Iowa
Time: 1999-12-07 02:42:40
Comments: Hi! I heard about your page from my sister that read your book! In social studies we are doing debates, and I picked a debate about how bad milk is! And everybody thinks that i am crazy for saying that milk is bad for you! I know what you can get calcium from i just need to know how much calcium is in milk! If you can help me with this please e-mail me! Thanks

Name: Julie Ostoich
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sacramento, CA
Time: 1999-12-07 02:22:22
Comments: I grew up on cow's milk. I was constantly at the doctor's for ear infections (lots of penicillin) & suffered terribly with allergies. When I gave up dairy, my allergies decreased dramatically & my immune system improved greatly. If I drink milk now, the glands in my throat swell, my ears get clogged and I feel like I'm getting a cold. My son who will be 2 in February was breast fed for 14 months and has not been given milk. He is extremely healthy and has not been sick at all. Other friend's babies in contrast have had ear infections, colds and congestion regularly....why? Because they get cow's milk. I have argued with allergist's about this and they insist that milk doesn't effect allergies, etc. I say the proof is in the pudding...non-dairy that is. My family thrives on soymilk & rice milk.

Name: Todd
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: CT
Time: 1999-12-05 21:36:04
Comments: Thanks for the information.

You are most welcomed. Please pass it around.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Ladislav
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Toronto, Ontario
Time: 1999-12-05 09:15:18
Comments: My simple Milk test: When living as a child in Europe, any milk left overnight in the glass, the next day you could drink it as a buttermilk... When in Canada/USA:The milk left in the glass overnight, the next day, you could not drink it! IT MAKES YOU VOMIT! But milk is not the only item, which is in hands of people, who for money , would sell the future of their countrymen! ( The poisoning motives are unclear to me, and by the time we will find it out, it will be too late for many people! ) Beside the "Milk Board", there are other "Boards", which should deserve your attention! Try: " Egg, Wheat, Orange, Apple , Chicken, Beef " etc...Boards....which CONTROL the production / and the MARKET of these items.... and consider, how much the farmers are paid for the lb., or quart... and for how much it is sold on the market. To close 100 small farms a day in USA in 1998, must be saying something! Probably, the best question HERE would be: WHAT IS GOING ON?

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: minnesota
Time: 1999-12-04 05:27:30
Comments: is the government, dairy, schools, and hospitals all in the milk selling business? why? we went to our first birthing doctor visit, and I told the guy how is lactose, ILGH, and caesin healthy for humans? and he basically skirted the question. no real answers. do the doctors know? don't we need calcium and magnesium in the same food, so it goes through the body at the same time?

Name: Karen Busse
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Time: 1999-12-03 22:55:18
Comments: :)

Name: Gordon Wayne Watts
Website: Gordon Watts tells of threats and abuses of Social Security
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Plant City and Lakeland (near Tampa), Florida
Time: 1999-12-02 02:50:12
Comments: Robert and Friends, Thanks for getting the word out concerning milk. *** I admit !!! *** that I did not know that cow's milk that one might buy from the store was bad, but, as MANY scientific studies show, it is . (PS: I looked up them studies just to make sure. * I also examined them closely with a scientific eye.) * ***---> On my Web Page is... ...information on HEALTH: A user-friendly focus on WHY cow's milk and NutraSweet (Aspartame) are bad. ...on WEALTH: The US Government admits that Social Security will go Bankrupt -- and only be able to pay ~ 77% of benifit by the year 2029 or 2030 !!! ...More HEALTH: Documentation (or allegations ???) of Human Limb Regeneration -- of documented cases of finger-tips growing back. (Don't try this yourself.) ...ROMANCE: Science tells us that the dating services do right by using the "things-in-common" approach -- and that the "opposites attract" method is bad. ALSO: honesty and discipline are factors, as well as genetic makeup, blood type (concerning Hemolytic Disease of the Newborn for Rh-incompatibility immune system rejection by the mother), and environment. SPIRITUAL: I give credit to my sponsors -- including that guy who created the dinosaurs -- So, you see, I ** really ** am ** trying to do good in a lot of areas. Oh, did I say "guy?" I meant 'guys' !!! Why ??? Because... ...they are PLURAL (see Genisis 1:26) "Let **us** [plural] make man in **our** [plural] image..." (from the King James Version of the HOLY BIBLE, emphesis mine). OH, can I forget that one last scripture for you Bible buffs? --- (HEBREWS 5:13) "Everyone that useth milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe." (KJV) http://hometown.aol.com/gww1210 or ... http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~gww1210

Name: Mitzi
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Arcadia, Ne
Time: 1999-12-01 21:50:50
Comments: this is a neat website My Chiropractor was right about milk it isn't that good for you but i can't stop drinking it though it's just a habit

Ah...ha! You are like million of folks who got addicted to
something... tobacco, aspartame, alcohol, etc.... but YOU have decided
that milk IS a taste to die for!


Not me... when I learned the truth I quite cold turkey (the only way
to really quit anything) but the "horse" had already escaped the barn.

At 55 my I leaned I had prostate cancer that had already spread (most
likely fueled by so many years consuming literally tons of cow's milk and
dairy). However, by at least removing that fuel it will slow it down
and give me a few more years with my family.

I DO wish I could turn back the clock ten or more years to receive the
health-restoring (perhaps life-saving) information YOU chose to ignore.
I do love life, my wife and children... and I would treasure a FIRST
chance
.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Rebecca Wittman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Waterville, NY
Time: 1999-12-01 20:44:00
Comments: Good luck fighting the good fight, but I fear that you will not be successful. I have been a vegetarian for more than fifteen years (vegan for about one) and I mostly feel depressed about the fate of the human race and the planet. I tell everyone who asks why I went vegetarian, then vegan, and it seems to fall on deaf ears. I hope and pray that you are successful.

Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-11-30 16:03:04
Comments: One of the guestbook entries pointed to this source of information about rBST http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~ear/CORBST.html. You pointed out that the report was written by employees of Monsanto. It is clear just from reading it that it is biased. At one point they are claiming that the amount of IGF-1 in the milk is the same as in human saliva and therefore the level is safe. This is the biggest load of balony I have ever heard. The difference is that the IGF-1 in your saliva is naturally occurring and your body regulates the levels. You do not stop producing saliva when you drink milk (to my knowledge anyway). Therefore the levels in milk are increasing the levels in your body above what your body naturally produces. IGF-1 is not a toxin or a poison - it's a hormone and naturally occurrs in us. Just because it is present in our saliva does not make it safe to consume.

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: minnesota
Time: 1999-11-29 06:49:47
Comments: how do you handle a total difference of opinion about this matter of non dairy vs dairy? in other words, if your wife believes dairy could not possibly cause all these horrible things, and so consumes dairy and is planning on feeding our baby dairy, while the husband accepting the truth that dairy is not advertising about it's harmfull affects, doesn't want dairy to be even in the house? in laments terms, how does a non dairy husband get allong with a dairy wife without fighting about nutrition and what's good for our health? any ideas on how I can prove that dairy is not meant for humans? I do think others are in my same situation...

Easy enough. Get the facts and present them to her.

1. How many woman does she know that breast fed their newborn?
... Why did they STOP?

2. What other species of mammals consumes the juices of a different
mammal?

3. If she isn't a newborn calf, why is she consuming cow's milk?

Of course, you could always give her a copy of "Milk, the Deadly Poison"
as an excellent Christmas gift!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: wren wagner
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: santa barbara ca.
Time: 1999-11-29 05:25:44
Comments: Hello, Great site! I've known about milk but not so much in detail, Thanks for this sit. Maybe everyone will wise up!!Yeah!!

Name: Kerstin Petrus
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: The Netherlands
Time: 1999-11-29 02:08:52
Comments: Horrible. What is NOT wrong with food the last few years!!. Antibiotics are everywhere, cows are eating sheep, fruits and vegetables are poisened. It's making me sick (what's in a word)

One can wash fruits and vegetables grown organically in good soil, and
have an excellent and safe food source. Same holds true with grains and
nuts.

People don't realize that when they get something undesirable on fresh
plants... it is TIMES ONE. When they consume milk and meats it is
concentrated... by the number of times the critter ate before some part
of it entered the food chain. Dairy, on the other hand, is FURTHER
concentrated: it takes 10 lbs. of milk for 1 lb. of hard cheese,
12 lbs. for ice cream, and 21 lbs. for butter (positive side to
the 100% fat in butter... no hormones or allergens, just 21x the
toxins).

However, it is impossible to remove the toxins (herbicides, pesticides,
residual antibiotics, dioxins... and any other "stuff") buried in the
milk/dairy/meats. Of course, the fat and cholesterol are not
desirable, either.

The path to a better and safer diet is quite evident.

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster

Name: David Irwin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-11-28 04:56:00
Comments: I always enjoy your site. I haven't been following it recently. Have you read the article by Miller and McBean in The Journal of the American Dietetic Association? Everyone is quoting it as gospel. It claims that very few people are genuinely Lactose Intolerant (by a narrow definition) and warns against harmful scaremongering. It even includes a rationed diet to slowly incease your tolerance for milk until once again you can drink a pint a day! Miller, of course, is vice-president of nutrition research at the NDC. No special interest there.

Name: Jamie
Website:
Referred by: AngelFire
From: PA
Time: 1999-11-24 08:35:04
Comments: This whole situation is out of control. Get over yourselves people it was just an ad. Stop trying to get attention for any reason whatsoever.

Name: Kerry Wordsworth
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Brisbane Australia
Time: 1999-11-21 02:02:57
Comments: Profit...greed...profit.....we're feed bull....T, from our dairy industries and governments....for the almighty dollar! The fittest people are the no meat no dairy guys!....me being one. My greatest wish is for all to be properly educated on REAL nutrition...not whats good for the powers that be!

Name: xjeremyx
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: maine
Time: 1999-11-20 07:55:59
Comments: vegans rock. so do teddy bears. all hail chocolate soy milk!

Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minnesota
Time: 1999-11-20 00:48:20
Comments: Who came up with the idea that pregnant women need to drink 64 ounces of dairy milk a day for the health of the baby to be? If I ever see him/her, I'd like to ring their neck. a friend of my wifes says you need to swim in a lake of cows milk to be healthy. If the mom breast feeds, but still drinks dairy milk, does this find its way into the breast milk? Is organic dairy better, or is it just less bad? It's hard standing up for something you believe in in the face of people, even your wife, who totally disagree with you. but it builds character. It gives you a certain unshakable confidence, which most people respect. Dont every grow weary in well doing.

Name: Joanna
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Nebraska
Time: 1999-11-19 05:28:59
Comments: Wonderful information that the public needs to know! My son has a severe dairy allergy, and my entire family has been much healthier after eliminating dairy products and turning to soy. So many health benefits from plants vs. all the risks with dairy: the choice is a no brainer for us! Keep up the good work!

Name: Tom Williams
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: West Paris,ME
Time: 1999-11-19 00:42:32
Comments: It seems like it is time to initiate a nation-wide, maybe a world-wide consumer boycott of all dairy/dairy-containing foods/products. I'm sure there are dairies out there that strive to be rbGH free, but realistically, how much control do they really have?? Boycotts work!! It hits the deviant corporations where they live - in their bank accounts. How stupid can they be? If they kill off dairy consumers with rbGH, who will buy the product and line their pockets?? I would rather that Mr.Cohen and others organize to impact Monsanto et al. economically instead of jeopardizing his own health and life. Commitment,YES; but live milk-free to fight another day! But, either way, I'm with you.

Name: Elaine
Website: EQUINE MARKET WATCH
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: WORCESTERSHIRE ENGLAND
Time: 1999-11-18 23:13:57
Comments: I'VE KNOWN ABOUT MILK AND MILK PRODUCTS FOR YEARS - COWS MILK IS MEANT FOR CALVES - HUMAN MILK IS FOR HUMANS. Are we the only species to continue drinking milk into adulthood??????? Breast cancer, colon cancer, prostate cancer all these and more will no doubt one day be linked to the intake of hormone packed animal products. Poor little caLves deprived of their birthright by greedy self centred humans. I hope you can spread your findings far, wide and LOUD Elaine

Name: Amy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Nevada
Time: 1999-11-18 03:48:38
Comments: I can't believe what I've learned about cow's milk. I wish there were some way to get the message out - like on a new's program! I've told my family about milk and they all stopped drinking it, but people need to know about this!

Name: Molly
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Transelvania
Time: 1999-11-18 01:06:43
Comments: i am never drinking milk again.

Name: Elaina
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: new york state usa
Time: 1999-11-17 10:21:24
Comments: Finally a place I can go to to get info on the mooo! I've suspected for a while it was the milk making my digestive system whacked, now I know for sure. Problem is I like Milk!!!!!! GREAT SITE, LOVE THE LAYED BACK SET-UP NOT SO FORMAL. MAKES IT A PLACE I WOULD LIKE TO VISIT. UPDATES TO MY E-MAIL WILL BE WELCOMED BY Y'ALL.

Name: Dr. Drumright
Website: Harmony Health Systems
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kansas City, Missouri
Time: 1999-11-17 04:41:44
Comments: Found you referenced in Dr. Whitakers Newsletter. Thanks for the efforts, I am establishing a link to your page at Harmony Health Systems if you have no objections. Darrel D. Drumright DC, FASA

Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1999-11-17 01:18:28
Comments: Powdered milk: just ad nauseum.

Name: Joy Robinson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-11-16 00:54:49
Comments: C! i came, i read, i will consider. j.

Name: Amanda
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Warren, Michigan
Time: 1999-11-15 01:15:44
Comments: Yup. Milk is nasty! I don't like it!

Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1999-11-12 20:47:28
Comments: Re: Coffee Of course, a better idea is to give up coffee altogether, caffeine or not. Coffee drains you of minerals, kills intestinal flora, dehydrates, and harms the digestive tract.

Name: Nancy McShane
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta,Ga.
Time: 1999-11-12 12:22:00
Comments: Greetings, fellow milkless ones!!! Does any one have a great idea for a non-dairy coffee cream? The grocery ones all have casein in them(that stuff seems to be everywhere) Soymilk is too thin and just doesn't whiten enough. I haven't brought myself to give up my decaf yet. Thanks!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nancy,

Many people enjoy RICH'S NON-DAIRY CREAMER. I've read the label, and get a bit nervous by all of those chemicals, yet it's a best-seller, and they use no casein.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tanya R
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Cape Cod MA
Time: 1999-11-12 06:46:07
Comments: Great stuff. What a complete and udder conspiracy! I work in an elementary school where allergies, illnesses, and early puberty abound. Please keep up the good work. The children (and those with cancer and other potentially milk related diseases) of America need you.

Name: Jennifer Burnham
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ohio
Time: 1999-11-11 09:53:09
Comments: My preschooler came home from his first day of school and told me what he learned that day....That milk was "NOT poison"! What are they teaching our children in school! Certainly not the truth.

Name: DENISE BORCHERT
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: CALIFORNIA
Time: 1999-11-11 08:17:04
Comments: THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING SUCH AN IMPORTANT CAUSE AND GETTING THIS INFORMATION TO THE MASSES. I AM BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY. THANKS AGAIN!!!!

Name: Steve Waterman
Website: Steve Waterman's Page
Referred by: Net Search
From: South Thomaston, Maine
Time: 1999-11-11 00:30:40
Comments: Great work, it is an uphill battle, but one worth fighting. Heard you on Sightings on the Radio. Best of luck.

Name: Ruth
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Melbourne Australia
Time: 1999-11-10 18:12:59
Comments: Keep up the good work. Love your page,great information,

Name: Rosie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: London,England
Time: 1999-11-08 22:36:53
Comments: Wot an excellent site! Thoroughly interesting, easy-2-use & fun! Thank you... I'll B back!

Name: Erica kucera
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: Australia
Time: 1999-11-08 11:13:39
Comments: interested in learning more on this subject

Name: Candice
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 1999-11-06 12:57:09
Comments: The other day I was in a store and I picked up a copy of Nickelodeon magazine because it looked interesting, and started paging through it. I was shocked to find just about every page was a milk advertisement. In fact, the whole magazine was one big milk commercial. I shook my head in disgust, and came to this site to see if you were aware of it, and sure enough you are. I guess the dairy industry is after our children now, leading them on with such "fun" propaganda. It appears they are becoming more and more agressive and persistent in their marketing techniques, and everyone is swept away in the "harmless fun", obviously now including children who are especially vulnerable because they cannot yet see things objectively. Doesn't anyone else see anything seriously wrong with this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Candace,

The dairy industry is distributing free copies of a special issue of Nickelodeon Magazine and it's super-saturated with milk mustache ads. This special issue combines previously published articles, including Rugrat stories. The special promotion give-away magazine also includes celebrity milkstache ads featuring Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys, and Jennifer Love Hewitt.

To get a free copy, one merely has to purchase two gallons of pus and hormone-filled milk!

Some 4.5 million copies of this magazine have been distributed to 15,000 supermarkets nationwide in specially designed milk displays.

Will moms be able to resist this freebie offer?

GOT DIABETES?

Early exposure to bovine proteins has been linked as a causative factor to infant insulin dependant diabetes mellitus.

This special issue of Nickelodeon Magazine will include an ad that shows little Tommy Rugrat wearing a chocolate milk mustache.

Nickelodeon’s advice to moms: GOT MILK for your infants?

My advice to moms with kids with diabetes: GOT ATTORNEYS?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Staci Hardy
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Indiana
Time: 1999-11-05 05:03:37
Comments: Nice, informative site. Thanks.

Name: Me
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-11-04 16:52:34
Comments: Mmmm, milk and dairy products. Mmm, cow exploitation!!!!

Name: Raenna Peiss
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Michigan, Detroit area
Time: 1999-11-02 02:49:19
Comments: I've signed this once before, but it's been so long that I may as well be new! I want to say that it irks me the way people attack both this site and you, Mr. Cohen, personally. They spout a lot of venom, say you're a quack, call your information "garbage," and yet they have nothing to back themselves up with. I've read your research and it looks pretty thorough and well-documented to me.

I've been a vegetarian for a few years, vegan for not quite as long. I made the switch initially for religious reasons, then started doing research and discovered all the health reasons, not to mention ecological reasons. Let me tell you, I used to get colds regularly. I can't remember the last cold I had since eliminating animal products from my diet.

Also let me digress slightly and say that if your DIET excludes animal products, that makes you a strict vegetarian. If your LIFESTYLE excludes animal products, *then* you're a vegan. I am vegan because I also avoid wool, leather, honey, basically ANYTHING that ever had to do with an animal.

Anyways, I'd love to see those who espouse the consumption of animal products to come forth with evidence to support their ravings. Milk has calcium? So does spinach! Meat has protein? Enough about protein! You eat sufficient calories, you get sufficient protein! Too much protein is no good, either. Iron? Green leafy vegetables! Know what rust is? It's oxidized iron. Lettuce has the capacity to rust, so there's a good iron source right there. B12? It's the same story as calcium.... it's not so much what your intake is, but what your output is. Our bodies produce B12 and calcium. We lose it when we eat the wrong things. We use it more efficiently when we eat the right things (and maintain a healthy general lifestyle which includes exercise) so we need less intake to counterbalance our output.

What kind of pro-dairy argument is "My kids will miss out on a nice glass of chocolate milk"? With so many milk substitutes and alternatives out there, that is such a moot point! I regularly enjoy a nice glass of vegan chocolate milk (and vegan hot chocolate)

As they said in ancient Rome, Mr. Cohen:
Non illegitimi carborundorum
Don't let the bastards grind you down!

 

)O(     Blessed Be!
Raenna Peiss


Name: Joan C. Wilson
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Ohio
Time: 1999-10-30 04:14:12
Comments: I am doing a presentation in November about milk vs soymilk and need information and questions to work with an audience of adults. Enjoy your site!

Name: Cathy Pearlman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Chicago,IL
Time: 1999-10-29 06:11:30
Comments: My 10 year old daughter brought home a flier which described a "milk awareness" promotion for her entire school. The class which had the most students buying milk for every day in November, would win a cookie and milk party! In addition, the school would be awarded a computer by the Wisconsin Dairy Council for participating. The school regards this promotion as a good thing because it is "educational". I was very suspicious of this promotion and saw it as a consumer push. I can't believe that there aren't more parents voicing a concern about our children being used to line the pockets of big business. I did a web search on "dairy" and that is how I came to realize just how BIG the dairy industry is! Then I came across the NOTMILK webpage, thank god! It validated everthing for which my husband and I take a stand. Thank you! We Listen to National Public Radio and we haven't had a TV in our house for about 4 years. We are not slaves to TV propaganda. Sounds radical? We're just aware folks. Thank you for providing this space for comment.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cathy,

Ask the school if they would allow the NOTMILMAN the opportunity to conduct an assembly. We can have our own educational experience and I'll donate a computer to the school, matching the bribe from the dairy industry.

Tell them we'll hold a contest and see if we can get the kids to eat an apple a day!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nabee Aniwodi-EL
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta
Time: 1999-10-27 23:15:06
Comments: This website is very informative and thorough.

Name: Vincent D. Bibb
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Bronx, NY
Time: 1999-10-27 18:47:48
Comments: I was watching a t.v. program on cable television where you were talking about the dangers of milk. What really caught my attention was the part about the glue in milk called CASEIN. That was a turning point for me and I have stopped drinking milk. Thank you for the information. I am a black male and the info. you gave was righteous.

Name: D Selvon
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Calgary,Canada
Time: 1999-10-27 09:50:30
Comments: I am still a milk drinker although one of my daughters is dairy free. This is a very interesting site and it has given me more information in making my decision to give up dairy products. It's hard to break a habit you've been on your entire life! I admire people who are strong enough to make that choice and hope someday to be amongst them.

Name: Christina Marie Adams
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Springfield, Illinois
Time: 1999-10-27 02:25:54
Comments: I found this web page while doing research on the dangers of dairy. I am very impressed with the amount and credibility of the information i have found. Thanks for all of the help!

Name: Rodolfo Palma-Lulion
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Santiago, Chile
Time: 1999-10-26 08:28:19
Comments: Thank you so much for making this page. With your help we can help make this world a better place for humans and cows; who knows, perhaps this will aide people in going Vegan and helping themselves and all life -plants included.

Name: Marc Riese
Website:
Referred by: Geocities
From: Halifax, NS
Time: 1999-10-26 03:19:30
Comments: Without milk, where would we be? In the dark-ages, fella! Milk and milk-related knowledge is responsible for our material and technological wealth. You're from the past, and I represent the future.

      Ummm... Yet another bogus Email address!

   Gee... Marc, you sure didn't read much, did you!

   Your "future" is being foretold by the contents of all cow's milk you
so blindly prefer to consume:

   59 active hormones (the most powerful of which is Insulin-like Growth
Factor ONE [IGF-1] which is identical between cows and humans... and
pinpointed by the medical establishment as being THE cause of rapid
growth and proliferation of breast, colon and prostate cancers... soon
to include ALL cancers), 100 allergens (perhaps the worst is casein, 80%
of the protein in milk, a powerful histamine [mucus maker] which is
better used as furniture glue), herbicides, pesticides, traces of up to
52 powerful antibiotics, fat, cholesterol, blood, feces (yeah... the
real stuff), dioxin's (and anything else the cow ate), along with an US
FDA allowance of up to 20,000,000 LIVE bacteria and 750,000,000 somatic
cells (we call it "PUS") per liter. Oh... yeah, you are from Canada.
The EU and Canada trim the pus cells per liter down to only 400,000,000.

   What does this wonder beverage do for you?

   It figures strongly in heart disease, cancer, obesity, diabetes,
asthma, allergies, behavioral problems, digestive problems, elimination
problems, osteoporosis, and more... all the way down to zits.

   That is just cow's milk. It takes ten pounds of milk to make one
pound of cheese, and 21 pounds of milk to make one pound of butter. You
do the math, OK?

   Bon appetite... and enjoy! I learned too late to prevent my
prostate cancer... but I can vouch from a once-trusting consumer that
cow's milk and dairy is NOT something to die for.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim

Name: Jaymya
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington Park, Illinois
Time: 1999-10-25 22:21:08
Comments: Please email me more info!! :)

Dear Jaymya,

There is so much information on the notmilk website. Check the archives. Read the last two years of weekly columns and daily squirts of notmilk wisdom.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: debradarby
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: boston ma
Time: 1999-10-25 21:34:01
Comments: I listened to your tape this week-end. i thought that it was good. some of the information i already knew ( ie the growth hormone) was bad for goood health. Soo, I started to buy "organic milk" products. I must admit it didn't dawn on me that organic milk also contained growth hormone and maybe other not so nice additives. There goes the theory that organic milk is better. Fortunately for me and my family we no longer drink milk. However we do enjoy cheese, yogurt, butter and ice cream. I think that we will be giving these things up shortly. Oh by the way, thank-you for your tape.

Name: Pat TOZER
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia
Time: 1999-10-23 05:36:26
Comments: I am a woman of 65 years of age, of only recent date I find I am alergic to ALL milk products. Should I inadvertantly eat or drink one of the milk products in a very short time I suffer from severe stomach pains etc...any genuine advise would be welcome....Pat

Dear Pat,

You have identified the problem, and in doing so, have also discovered the cure. My advice is quite simple:

NOTMILK!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Karl Meyers
Website: KSM Enterprises On-Line Shopping Mall and Idea Store
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Auburn California
Time: 1999-10-22 12:21:49
Comments: I have been publishing your link for about two years now at KSM1.COM. My site is dedicated to good health and excellent nutrition. It is not only important to know about the danger of drinking milk, it is also important to reduce your risk of cancer, stroke and heart disease by losing weight. With seven out of ten Americans overweight, we have an epidemic of obesity. My goal is to educate people with facts, and show them a way to get healthy, and stay that way. I am also collecting data on this subject for a confidential study I am doing. If you want to lose weight, or improve your health, complete my survey at www.ksm1.com/getskinny.html. Thank you for doing this service. Together, we can change America, one person at a time.

Name: Paul Howard
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: I live in Philadelphia.
Time: 1999-10-20 05:41:49
Comments: I was just wondering what you think we should do with cows. You've made it clear that we should not have them domesticated for the purpose of taking milk, and I think you've also indicted that you're against the eating of cows themselves. So lets assume that people stop using cows to fulfill these desires. What happens to the cows? Do we set them all free to roam wild? Do we keep them as pets? Do we declare open season for hunters? Do we make them infertile and force them to extinction? I am very curious to hear what your opinion is on this matter. Sincerely, Paul Howard

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Paul,

The answer to your question is quite simple. If animal rights activists have their way and animals no longer perform in circuses, zoos, or serve as food on our plates, then there will one day be fewer abused animals. That results in a world in which there are no more domesticated cows, chickens or pigs. Will the average American miss these gentle creatures?

When is the last time you saw one of the above? These are not happy critters, Paul, and their pain should simply not continue.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Ummm. Sort of a parallel to too many nuclear weapons, eh?

Closer to home... similar to too many billions of dollars worth
of price-supported milk/dairy, tobacco, etc.

The only difference is the cows are, thanks to the dairy industry
in OVER POPULATION, and that fault rests with their lies, deceit,
and greed... all aided and abetted by the USDA and a lot of other
government officials.

The dairy farmer already takes care of the weaker bovines... see the
"daily squirt" for 20 October, 1999.

Considering the track record for tobacco, and our governments continued
involvement in its viability (price supports) I submit that it will take
a LONG time for people to get off milk/dairy/beef (if ever). I doubt there
is any problem there, Paul. Too many folks are "hooked" on bad substances
(aspartame, MSG, milk/dairy, meats, etc.) and would rather die... then ignore
their acquired taste buds.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: Ann Krebs
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Worcester, MA
Time: 1999-10-20 05:29:33
Comments: I have stopped using most milk products in February and am now trying to eliminate all products made with milk.

Name: Philip J, Fogarty
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Southern California
Time: 1999-10-19 02:20:38
Comments: First, I found out about you on an L.A. Radio Interview! I've been a half-gallon+ milk drinker all my life! Age 65, I have TypeII diabetes. At my place of employment a year ago, mobile Bone Scanners told me that I had osteoporosis, especially bad in the hips and to drink more milk! I told them the anount of milk that I already consumed and that my Doctor (Alternative Medicine) told me that milk was not a good source of Calcium. They expressed their surprise at such an idea. Two weeks later I fell and broke a hip! By the way, the same Doctor warned me that use of Soy substitutes can cause Thyroid problems, and must be monitored.

Name: spiggy
Website: vegan or die
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: the beautiful denton, texas
Time: 1999-10-18 03:36:24
Comments: why would i want to drink milk from cows (which is mostly water) that contains bleach because the cows are milked until they BLEED????

Name: Kraeg MacKenzie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 1999-10-16 22:13:42
Comments: I've been around for awhile, but no, I didn't grow up on a dairy farm. I'm glad I didn't; milking cows, and slaughtering veal Calfs. I love soy milk. And soy cheese. And soy ice cream. Actually, I love all things fake-dairy and fake-beef, because Cows don't have to suffer. Cows are also my favorite animals, which is okay, 'cause being a vegan that doesn't make me a hypocrite. There is a cruel reason for everything done on a farm the way it is accomplished.... what-evever the heck THAT means! I love all Cows; I even love the neighbor's cows. That's why I save them from the slaughter, unlike those OTHER hypocrites.... I have never had a page irritate me so much as the Beef and Dairy pages. It is fine that some people will read their "information" and decide that milk is right for them... then drink it and die... but what about the poor animals? And the poor children? The kids will not have opportunity to enjoy a life free of poisonous, mucous-inducing milk. I think it is wrong that Marissa blames everything anti-dairy on the NotMilkMan, and I can't help but wonder, "Was she shat upon as a child?" Well..... were you, Marissa, you pathetic Dairy Industry pawn??

Name: Christopher Clark
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York City
Time: 1999-10-15 23:04:27
Comments: I totally agree with your assessment. I am letting all my friends know of the danger of milk. Thank you for your help.

Name: Marissa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Central Wisconsin
Time: 1999-10-14 22:41:47
Comments: I've been around for awhile, and yes I grew up on a dairy farm. I've raised veal, milked many cows, and yes, even helped butcher. I love milk. And cheese. And ice cream. Actually, I love all things dairy and beef. Cows are also my favorite animals. There is a good reason for everything done on a farm the way it is accomplished. We loved our cows; I even loved the neighbor's cows. I have never had a page irritate me so much. It is fine that some people will read your "information" and decide that milk isn't right for them...but what about their children? They will not have opportunity to enjoy a big cold glass of chocolate milk on a late summer evening. I think it is wrong that you blame everything on cows and I can't help but wonder, "Were you peed on as a child?"

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Marissa,

You were doing so well, but you kind of lost it at the end, huh?

You "loved" your cows? Is that with or without Bordelaise sauce?

If we ever meet, would you kindly explain to me the part about how you love cows, and they are your favorite animals, and that you slaughter them and eat their flesh. Which part of the slaughter process is your favorite? Do you like when they look at you with their big trusting brown eyes, or is your favorite part the moment when you cut their throats and watch them die?

Do you like dogs too?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Peed on? Ummm... more like crapped on by a ignorant industry
which was made worse by a culpable government. The FDA is
steeped in rubber stamping unhealthy industrial output and
congress is too busy raking in the donations from industry.

I was born in Wisconsin, Marissa, which is why I am confused
that you do not comprehend that a steady diet of 59 hormones,
100 allergens, herbicides, pesticides, dioxin's, up to 52
antibiotics, fat, cholesterol, blood, feces, and an FDA allowance
of up to 20 MILLION live bacteria and 750,000,000 somatic cells
(did you know the layman's term for this is "PUS"?) per liter...
is not a desirable beverage. Tasty, perhaps. A beverage to DIE
for, no!


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: Leslie Howard
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Pennslyvania
Time: 1999-10-13 22:47:54
Comments: I do admire your bringing attention to the horrible things that are being given and done to cows. What I see as missing, however, is that it is humans and not cows that are the problem. Perhaps we can learn something from the very wise souls whose words have come to us through India. The cow is one of our mothers. She does not mind giving us milk and it is perfectly healthy for us to injest it in the proper ways (hot and not cold for example) in it's whole and natural state, coming from a happy cow. It is said that the evolution of a society can be judged by the manner in which cows are treated. The most spiritually evolved societies honor the cow and her products as well as the service of the oxen and bull.

It is very difficult to eat a balanced vegan diet. It takes considerable effort. It is not very difficult to have a balanced, healthy diet as a vegetarian that eats dairy and not eggs. Milk is probably the most nectarian substances available here on earth. It is our duty as stewards of this planet to see to it that the cow is honored and protected. Jaya Radhe!

Love Always,

littlebird Leslie

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Littlebird Leslie,

The average dairy cow in India yields just three quarts of milk each day, while American cows yield 24 quarts per animal. Our bovines have been bred to be steroid-producing monsters, and our milk is loaded with powerful hormones.

If the cow is our gentle mother, then the horse must be our gentle father. GOT HORSE MILK?

The skunk is most certainly my gentle brother-in law, and the pig is my uncle. Why not enjoy milk from all animals?

The wisdom of the ancient Indian Ayurvedics permitted them to boil milk, then skim off the fat and use it as ghee. Hundreds of years ago the ghee was mixed wih psychadelic substances to produce soma. Every generation has its Ben & Jerrys!

Last week, the world welcomed its six-billionth inhabitant, and India welcomed its one-billionth. With pus and bacteria in milk, India might very well consider raw milk to be an effective means of population control. The average Indian does not live beyond the age of 60.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: jonathan shutt
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: West Covina, California
Time: 1999-10-12 12:50:50
Comments: What a bunch of liberal BS.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jonathan,

First of all, it's CS, not BS.

CS is what pollutes our streams and waterways. The largest E coli and salmonella outbreaks were traced to CS this past summer. CS is what often drips down the legs of Johne's-infected bovines, in the form or diarrhea, mixing and blending delicate tastes and essences into your beverage of choice.

Second, like most of my critics, you have no specific point to "attack." I have made tens of thousands of statements, backed up by over a thousand studies on the notmilk site. I invite you to pick out just on specific point that you disagree with.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Hardly liberal, and so far removed from BS (or CS) as to warrant being
classified as the "whole truth, and nothing BUT the truth!".

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: Hans Weimar
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Bavaria
Time: 1999-10-09 05:52:37
Comments: My Brother Klaus gave me your electric location. I agree with You that drinnking the Milk with the Hormones is not pleasant. I most rather prefer drinking hormones "straight up" as it were. I find that milk dilutes the pleasantry of the Taste of hormones, and adds kgs to my weight. Hormones on ice is nice too.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Hans and Klaus,

You've forgotten to add:

"Tastes great, and it's less filling!"

Auf Wiedersehen,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Thomas Goss
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington State
Time: 1999-10-08 10:20:13
Comments: EXCELLENT site. You do the world a great service, and should be quite proud. By providing the unbiased scientific evidence, you give anyone with an open mind and any amount of real courage the means to achieve better health. The message is getter louder. More and more people are becoming vegan because all roads (nutrition, environment, animal suffering, etc.) seem to lead to veganism. GO VEGAN!

Name: ellameitte taraborrelli
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: pennsylvania
Time: 1999-10-08 05:06:30
Comments: i think the page is great! there is soooo much i didn't know : thanks for the info! ill pass it on to others!

Name: john zink
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: laguna niguel, ca
Time: 1999-10-07 03:48:01
Comments: heard you this morning on kbac

Name: Nell C. Buckner
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 1999-10-06 22:27:08
Comments: Thank you for having a site completely dedicated to educating people about the dangers of milk. Being a vegan is the healthiest way to live. Why do people think it is appropriate to drink the mammary product of some animals? Even animals don't comsume milk after a certain young age. A vegetarian who drinks milk and eats dairy products is like a vegetarian who eats meat. Why avoid meat for ethical reasons if you're going to drink milk and contribute to the suffering of cows anyway? Just give it all up. Help to save the billions of animals who are tortured and then murdered for your selfish eating pleasure.

Name: Cloyd Knavel
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Oil City Pa.
Time: 1999-10-06 09:24:14
Comments: Hi. After listening to you on the local radio..I got to thinking. My brother inlaw and his son drink at least 5 to 6 gallons of milk a week. His son, is always companing. He is sick all the time. Allergies they say. I believe there must be some thing to what you say. Thank You. Cloyd Knavel

Name: Klaus Weimar
Website: N,A
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Bavaria
Time: 1999-10-06 06:46:58
Comments: So, what gives? You don't like milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

What gave you that impression, Klaus?

My family loves milk! Every morning I milk the Dobermans and give everybody a tall glass of their creamy milk.

We make an aromatic cheese from the milk we get from our horses, and we place a thick wedge of that cheese on our lunch sandwiches.

We milk the pigs in late afternoon, and mix their milk with an equal amount of white sugar. We freeze the concoction and enjoy ice cream from their body fluids.

We keep about a dozen cats pregnant year-round, so that we can enjoy their milk in the form of yogurt which we ferment overnight.

We also buy human breast milk which we enjoy with cookies before retiring for the evening.

HOWEVER, we avoid cow's milk because of the dangerous presense of insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I). We all know that IGF-I in cow's milk is identical to IGF-I in the human body, and that hormone is the key factor in breast, prostate, and lung cancer.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cheri A. Jackson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington State
Time: 1999-10-05 23:36:08
Comments: I have been a juvenile-onset diabetic for 33 years. One month ago, I became a vegan. I am very happy so far with the way I feel. Now I just have to persuade my doctor and probably my dietician that I am doing the right thing. Thank you for the wonderful information on the web site. Cheri

Name: Sungal
Website: Health By Design
Referred by: From a Friend
From: the great Northwest
Time: 1999-10-03 00:49:45
Comments: Dear Robert, Your site is wonderful in every way. In a time when there are few heroes around...you stand out as a terrific role model reminding us that standing up for truth is possible and that it is worth the effort. I just wanted to say Bravo and thank you. I truly appreciate everything you have done to help educate and provide a source of important information on this hidden subject.

Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1999-10-01 20:55:19
Comments: Friends, you might not believe there is a connection here, but after just 2 weeks off dairy, I have almost NO LINT in my belly button when I take off my shirt in the evening. (All other nutritional factors remaining the same.) I think I now know what that "lint" REALLY is!! Thank you, NOTMILK!! - BT, Topeka KS

My colleagues, family, and friends all say I look much healthier but the first thing they usually notice is the fresh fine hair growth on my earlobes! Why did I wait so long to make the change and give up the goo???! - TW, Baton Rouge LA

I would like to share the wonderful experience I've had since visiting your site last year and quickly giving up dairy. Two months ago I finally found a house to buy, after living in a dusty old apartment with my mother for 12 years! I'm thrilled!! Also my bowel habits have vastly improved. So thank you NOTMILK!!!! -CS, Worcester, MA


Name: Mikay
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Florida
Time: 1999-10-01 10:31:19
Comments: hi rob.....love the site. i have been vegetarian for 22 years and only gave up dairy products 5 months ago. i wish i had given them up 22 years ago with the meat. i used to have really bad bronchitis and it has now disappeared completely. my sister's child had ear infections for 2 years and i told her to take him off dairy products and sent her your page. guess what? you guessed it, no more ear infections. i wish the rest of world would come to thier senses and stop with all the dairy products, especially the parents giving it to thier children. it's awful, just awful.

Name: Dr. Unruh
Website: www.thecnr.com
Referred by: From a Friend
From: USA
Time: 1999-09-28 22:56:43
Comments: I am a specialist who works all over the world helping handicapped children and their families. None of the children under my care drink animal milk or eat products made from animal milk. The improvements are impressive specially in children who suffer from Autism, Down Syndrome. Learning and Attention Problems as well as Brain Injury. I have accumulated an large body of evidence including scientific articles, books and case studies that will serve to document my position and I plan to publish my 20 reasons not to touch the stuff as soon as time permits. To me, it is rat poison so please do not drink it and do not give it to your children. Most of the world does not drink milk and in many ways survive better than we do.

Name: Melissa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kentucky
Time: 1999-09-27 20:00:16
Comments: Hi! Just wanted to let you know that I just bought your book a week ago. So far, it is very good! I have been dairy-free for about 3 months now, and I feel wonderful. Also, I took your advice in a newsletter about a month ago about the Gardenburgers. I tried one for the first time this weekend, and I like them. Thanks!

Name: Amanda
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Utah
Time: 1999-09-26 22:36:01
Comments: Congratulations on such a great site! I haven't had any animal products for over ten years and I have a five year old daughter who has been vegan since birth. We don't have to deal with sickness and excess mucus like other people and both feel great. My daughter can't understand why people would drink milk meant for baby calves. I can't believe how many people have been brainwashed into thinking they must consume the milk of another species and go through adulthood never being weaned. Keep up the good work spreading the truth!

Thank you. But it is really "our" work (as in all citizens with a conscience) to
help the rest of the citizens learn the truth. Please do talk it up, pass around a URL
or even a flyer or two.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: L. B
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Massachusetts
Time: 1999-09-26 20:40:52
Comments: I really don't get the site. I mean some people like milk and some people don't, you don't have t make such a big deal about how bad people are if they do drink milk

We state that people are bad if they drink milk??? Where?

We state that MILK is bad (59 hormones, 100 allergens, herbicides,
pesticides, fat, cholesterol, up to 52 antibiotics, blood, feces (yea,
the real "stuff"), virus, up to 20 MILLION live bacteria and 750,000,000
somatic cells (we call that "pus") PER LITER (a bit more than a
quart). And their is MORE!!! (check out "prions")


You seem to have missed this important message.

We say that those who PROMOTE milk (including the USDA) are not telling
the truth about cow's milk and dairy... and that it harms each and every
consumer.

Then we provide a wealth of proof from a variety of sources.

On your next visit... please consider opening your eyes and reading a
bit of what we provide .... for free. You might even consider becoming
responsible for your words... by providing a valid Email address!


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim

Name: Heather Daugherty
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Blanchard, Michigan
Time: 1999-09-25 17:45:20
Comments: I am so happy to find out that I am not crazy! When my son, now 6 years old, was younger he suffered terribly from ear infections and asthma so I took him off of all dairy products. Suprise he became well! When I had to move back to the house I was raised in with my mother and grandmother they simply could not believe that I was raising my son with out all the "healthy" benefits of meat or dairy and began force feeding him the stuff daily, as you can imagine I was not pleased. He became constantly stuffed with mucus and lived with a tissue in his hand! Needless to say my efforts to educate my elders were less than successful, they thought I was an overzealous freak! When we moved to Michigan I sat down with my son and explained why I did not give him meat or dairy and HE decided that he did not want to eat these things anymore. When, in 2 days, he noticed that he could breathe again he asked me why did his Granny and Grandma make him eat all that stuff? Did they want him to be sick? I am so happy to find your site so that now I can pass this information on to others, I plan to buy a few of copies of your book so that I may at least inform the people that I love. Oh Thank You, Thank You, Thank You

You are most welcomed!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: Lorraine
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: michigan
Time: 1999-09-25 11:08:08
Comments: Its really worring when my daughters high school health book promoted drinking milk, and they then have a key speaker saying that milk is the perfect food to be stuck on a desert island with for its health giving properties. We need more education like this web page please.

What is REALLY needed are a lot more good folks like yourself who
have no problems telling others about what they have learned... and
perhaps pointing a path to the truth:

http://www.notmilk.com or send an empty Email to flyer@notmilk.com

Other articles from the NOTMILK auto-responder:

milk@notmilk.com
consumer@notmilk.com
whatis@notmilk.com
victim@notmilk.com

Regards, Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim

Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1999-09-24 02:16:50
Comments: Dear Robert, The U.S. Justice Dept. has filed suit against the tobacco industry. In part the dept cites the "45 year campaign of deceit to preserve enormous profits whatever the cost in human lives." The DoJ also said that as early as 1953 the tobacco industry realized that the TRUTH would deal a mortal blow to profit. All the same wording could easily be applied to Cow MILK!!!

Name: Renee Azbill
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ohio USA
Time: 1999-09-23 20:30:54
Comments: Great site! Love the recipe links. I have tried many of them. It is hard for me to take out dairy, but your site really helps! Thanks-Renee

Name: Shelli
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Iowa
Time: 1999-09-21 20:53:37
Comments: when I typed in www.imsick.com I meant that I am sick today and then when I saw the cow...i figured it would be a funny page to cheer up sick kids that got to stay home from school today like me. what exactly is the point of your page? I didn't really read anything...but I did look at a few of the guestbook entries. My guess would be that you're trying to say that milk is unhealthy and people shouldn't really drink it. Well ya know...think about all the parents that have little 4 year olds that just will not drink milk and most people think that milk is very healthy and you should never go a day without it. What do you eat or drink to replace the healthy substances in the milk? I know that milk is not my favorite thing to drink, but most people and most parents I know are trying to get their children to drink it more and more. What's so wrong with milk? And again I remind you that I didn't read any articles or facts about milk so I'm going to rely on YOU for the answers to those questions. kappakappa@hotmail.com

Name: Tanya
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-09-21 07:31:45
Comments: Robert--awesome web site. This is SO cool. I'm speechless. I'll e-mail you soon with questions and comments. Bye! Tanya :)

Name: notmilkfan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Michigan
Time: 1999-09-19 00:25:24
Comments: I wonder what will happen when individuals get tired of having cow milk shoved at them, and realize they are being killed in painful deaths by it! Are they going to ban together and sue dairy producers like we saw in the tobacco company lawsuits? Yes, it is a legal substance, too, but it does as much if not more harm than tobacco. (Food for thought!) Keep up the good work, honest notmilkman!!

Name: eponine
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Mass
Time: 1999-09-17 01:43:03
Comments: No one is complaining about Sarah Michelle Gellar's ad by saying that it will make people believe that she's a slayer and she's promoting that there are vampires in our world. Maybe there are, who knows. The point is that these actors are doing a good thing by helping to support milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Eponine,

These actors and actresses are past of the problem!

Sarah Michelle Geller (Buffy) knows that milk and dairy products are unhealthy. As a matter of fact, she does not use them.

In a recent interview in TEEN magazine, Buffy admitted that she has two dietary "no-nos." She does not eat fried foods and she does not drink milk.

I have no love for phonies (like Geller) who know better, and take the money and betray others with an unhelathy message.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Virginia
Website:
Referred by: Geocities
From: Seattle,Washington
Time: 1999-09-17 00:20:05
Comments: I really love your website. It's packed with so much useful info. I think my head's going to explode. Also, did AJ the Backstreet Boy actually sign this or is that another Cohen Industry marketing ploy to get kids to not drink milk? Just a couple Q's but I still love your site.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Virginia,

I thought that Sarah posted that letter as a joke. She's my 13-year-old who will be seeing the Backstreet boys next Friday night when they perform at the Meadowlands in New Jersey.

The actual post was made from a computer with Windows 98, via an AOL account. We do not have a computer with Windows 98. Each guestbook message leaves a unique signature, but we were unable to trace this post.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Takoma Park, MD
Time: 1999-09-14 23:12:20
Comments: There are "seven degrees of separation" between any one person in the world and any other. Now I've heard that any one Web Site is only 19 clicks/links from any other. I wonder what the proximity now is between/among the dairily outraged of the world?!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Noel,

There are zero degrees of separation when it comes to the 100 antigens that every human produces to bovine proteins.

There are also zero degrees of separation when it comes to the 59 different bioactive hormones in every sip of milk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: AJ
Website: My picture
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-09-12 21:35:00
Comments: Your sight is awesome! I am on the road a lot, but when I get home, I plan to explore a vegan lifestyle. COOL!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear AJ,

I know an AJ from the "Backstreet Boys" who did a milk mustache ad for the dairy industry. My daughter Sarah informs me that his favorite food is a double quarter pounder with cheese. If you are that same "AJ," and you convert to a plant-based diet, I'll become your "Perfect Fan!"

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Bernadette Sonefeld
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Littleton, Colorado
Time: 1999-09-12 11:30:57
Comments: Met you at the AVS Conference in Boulder, just showed a copy of your interview on Chan 20 (Focus on Colorado)to a bunch of people at our monthly potluck. We all loved it. Am going to refer a caller to the Veg. Soc. of Colorado, who is doing some research for a paper to your website and material (books, etc.)...thanks for your work in the field! You're a great resource!! (I answer the phone for the Society).

Name: Pam Martin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Oxford,Alabama
Time: 1999-09-12 07:25:49
Comments: I found this site from Chet Day. I receive his newsletter and he had some information about milk and the dangers of drinking it. I have sent this site to all of my friends. I am in the process of trying to find something to replace the milk products we eat and drink. I have enjoyed the articles and information that is on this site. Thank you for helping us live a healthier life! Pam Martin

Name: Aurora
Website: Youth for the Enviroment Veg*nism and Animal Liberation
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: some planet, in a galixy far far away
Time: 1999-09-12 02:37:25
Comments: I just have to say mate this is a bonza site! I have a small problem though, see im a lacto-ovo veggie, yet in my heart im a vegan. If you can understand that. See my fam wants me to eat cheese and milk and eggs at least. I eat a good diet,its not like im aneroxic god no. One day I wanted Chi, but had no soy milk, (I avoid all dairy n eggs products when nessesary). Any my sis says OH use reg. Milk it won't hurt you! I knew diffrent, but they won't listen. Says I must eat some. I know diffrent. Well im off,if ya reply please also send it email wise. Thanks

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Aurora,

The way I see it, people choose one of two reasons for adopting a plant-based diet. Reason number one is compassion to animals. Reason number two is compassion to your own body.

Animals suffer when we eat their body parts. What might not be obvious, is the suffering to dairy cows. The milk and dairy industry might very well be the cruelest of all farm animal industries. Dairy cows must birth calves to continue producing milk. By continuing to consume milk and dairy products, one must take responsibility for the treatment of veal calves.

Milk and dairy products contain many unhealthy substances. Milk buffers gastric pH so that protein hormones and cholesterol, normally broken down by stomach acid, survive digestion.

Whether it's compassions to animals, or compassion to yourself, I advise all people eating the SAD diet (Standard American Diet) to first give up all milk and dairy products.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Heather Gray
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Atlanta, GA USA
Time: 1999-09-10 16:57:38
Comments: I can't thank you enough for this information on milk. I was actually referred to you by Dr. Sandra Cabot's (Liver Cleansing Diet) assistant in Australia. My mother and I are noiw "cleansing our liver" through this diet. It's wonderful but we needed more explanation about why not dairy products. Thank you Thank you Thank you. I even work for an organization assisting farmers and will need to incorporate some of your information into our work. Please keep me informed. One of my friends is plagued with asthma, is a vegetarian who uses dairy products as her staple, is a scientist (pathologist) herself but has not an inkling of your findings/analysis. I will tell her immmediately! Thanks, thanks! On to better health.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Heather,

Your friend has undoubtedly spend thousands of dollars, seeking relief and a cure from asthma.

Her cure can be summed up in one word: NOTMILK!

CASEIN is a tenacious glue and powerful allergen. Eighty percent of milk protein is CASEIN. Even a sprinkling of Parmesian cheese on pasta can trigger the antibody/antigen response, producing mucous which clogs the bronchioles of the lungs.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Erica L Hudson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Washington, DC
Time: 1999-09-10 06:48:00
Comments: I really enjoyed the websight, and will visit often:)

Name: kitty
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: fl
Time: 1999-09-09 05:30:02
Comments: Hi there, I found your site to be quite interesting. I myself am a milk drinker. I grew up on it and I don't really agree with your views but I respect them. Good luck being vegan.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Thank you for your very nice letter, Kitty. Good luck to you too...for drinking body fluids from diseased animals, and I assume, for eating their hormone and antibiotic filled flesh.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sita
Website: Sita Ka Sansar (Sita's World)
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: India
Time: 1999-09-09 05:13:26
Comments: Dear Notmilkman, It's interesting that several months ago you said you don't like "V" words (vegetarian, vegan), but now you use them freely in your guestbook responses to people. I also noticed that your weekly newsletters are anti-meat as well as anti-dairy. I'm glad you've formed an alliance with the meat protesters as well.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Siva,

I plead GUILTY.

I do hate those "V" words (vegetatian, vegan) and prefer to say that I eat a plant-based diet. Before MY RESPONSE TO POST #1348, I last used a "V" word on July 16, post #1255.

When meat eaters encounter a self-described "vegetarian," they conclude that the person is a little bit strange. Vegan? That word sounds like we're from another planet! When I tell people that I eat a plant-based diet, they seem to understand that it's really a healthy lifestyle and usually do not snicker. Tell 'em you're a vegetarian or vegan and they pre-judge you to be a radical god-hating communist who seeks to overthrow the American government.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rob
Website: MN Scraps
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MN
Time: 1999-09-07 10:26:27
Comments: Heard you on the radio (AM1500 KSTP) a while back and what you said made a lot of sense - I recently stared a diet that cuts out all dairy, and in about 8-10 days I noticed I had lost a nagging caough that I had for as long as I could remember. Before I always felt like I had to clear my throat. Since cutting out the dairy, my cough is all but gone. -Rob

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Rob,

Your experience is not that unusual. Casein (80% of all milk protein) plays a significant role in histamine production and mucous. By eliminating all milk and dairy products, you will continue to discover the secret to great health!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Hothouse
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: California
Time: 1999-09-06 13:23:11
Comments: Thanks so much, I was soo happy being a laco-vegetarian and you had to go a ruin it for me. I don’t think I can look at another glass of milk and not picture and cup of pus. Ick, now I am going to have to find something else to put on my Cheerios in the morning.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Hothouse,

Most vegetarians become so by giving up red meat first, then chicken, then fish. These non-meat eaters are often quite sickly, and an entire lifestyle is judged by their meat-eating peers as being unhealthy.

If one eats the SAD diet (Standard American Diet) and gives up red meat, chances are that the individual will notice little or no difference in his or her body.

Give up all milk and dairy products, and the difference in how one feels in just one week will be significant and convincing!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Emilee Park
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-09-04 00:22:22
Comments: It is really helpful to visit your site. I have a seven month old daughter that I am trying to feed well. I make most of my baby food and am trying to live more natural. Thank you...Emilee

Name: Danielle
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Pa
Time: 1999-09-03 05:26:58
Comments: I am signing this guestbook because i was appalled by some of the accusations made concerning Josh Jackson's milk ad. Although Josh Jackson's character Pacey did have an affair with his english teacher on the show Dawson's Creek, it does not neccessarily imply to teens that the characters' action were right. As a loyal veiwer of the show and a milk drinking teen I can say that the ad had no negative effecton me. If a person had not seen that particular episode of Dawson's Creek, they wouldn't know the meaning of the last line of the milk ad.. They would simply think of it as a teenager endorsing the idea of drinking milk with the possibility of it helping to get an older girl. This is not to say that the girl had to be that much older. The age difference could range from days, weeks, months, or years; though the time frame is not given in the ad. The ad does not say to young teens go have statutory rape with your english teacher and neither does the show. The ad is meaningless to those who haven't seen the episode of Dawson's Creek and those who have seen it know that it was taken care of in a appropriate manner. I hope you will take my thoughts into consideration since I am a teen that drinks milk, saw the ad, and is an avid Dawson's Creek veiwer. The had no effect, think about it. Thank you for your time.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Danielle,

CONGRATULATIONS! Yours is the Last Joshua Jackson comment that will be posted on this guestbook page.

By any chance, are you on your high school debating team?

I would love the opportunity to bring this case to a jury trial.

You are not guilty, and neither is Josh.

The dairy industry took advantage of a situation, and the meaning is clear. They promote something that is morally and ethically wrong and is also a criminal offense, punishable by jail.

End of case.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Anna Hamnes
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Burnie, Tasmania, Australia
Time: 1999-09-02 12:17:15
Comments: Great news, but I worry abount my bones

Dear Anna,

Then treat your bones with compassion, Anna. Continue to get Vitamin D the natural way, by exposing your skin to sunlight for at least five minutes at least once every three days. Continue to exercise. Go for a brisk 20 minute walk every day. Don't drink substances containing caffeine (coffee, tea, cocoa) and don't smoke cigarettes. These things exacerbate bone loss after menopause.

Last but not least, get your calcium by eating dark green vegetables. The center atom of chlorophyll is magnesium. In order to absorb calcium, you need magnesium. Limit your protein consumption. People who eat too much protein have high rates of osteoporosis. Protein creates an acidic condition in the blood. In order to neutralize that acid, your body leeches calcium from your bones.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: chad r
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ohio
Time: 1999-09-02 09:29:39
Comments: I now drink soy milk. I've always knew milk was contaminated. Probably the thing that pisses me off the most is our paid off half-ass F.D.A. and our uneducated money hungry farmers. Thanks to our farmers that don't know what the hell they are doing with the antibiotics and hormones, we have a nice string of new diseases (such as hemorrhagic e-coli and cancers). Well, hope they are happy!

Name: Kerry Tucker
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1999-09-02 01:30:13
Comments: Go Vegan

Name: Alex Barszap
Website: My Mad Moon
Referred by: Net Search
From: New York City
Time: 1999-09-01 23:41:53
Comments: This is a great site. I now have a place to point my friends to when they tell me I'm out of my mind with all these anti milk claims.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Alex,

Milk can be responsible for gastrointestinal distress, including diarrhea and constipation.

With friends like yours, who needs enemas?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Bruce Gilliwathy
Website: KILL IT - SKIN IT - EAT IT
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-08-29 03:13:31
Comments: You people from bloody America don't know nothing! Here in Australia, mate, we drink gallons of milk every single day and we're as fit and healthy a nation as you'll ever see. Don't come over here and spout your NOT MILK crap....cough...splutter...groan.... I've only had three heart operations and suffer from sinus, asthma and a host of other medical complaints but these are not - I repeat NOT a sympton of milk drinking. You probably don't eat meat either!!!!! What a loser

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Bruce,

I've always wondered why you Aussies were referred to as the people "down-under." In your case, they must be referring to the blue-green algae growing underneath the remora gliding beneath the great white sharks of your great barrier reef.

I remember my history well. Wasn't Australia settled by the residents of a British penal colony? Try as you may, ya just cannot get rid of bad breeding, Bruce.

Americans used to admire Aussies. It was that "Paul Hogan" influence. A few weeks ago the real-life model for Paul Hogan's movies was killed in a shoot-out with the police, after killing one officer.

Was he a milk drinker and meat eater too, or did he just eat crocs and roos?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rachel Brahs
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: IDAHO
Time: 1999-08-28 13:38:14
Comments: Thank you for providing this info. I've never been a milk drinker, but my husband is. I've been struggling with wheather or not to give cow's milk to my 1yr old daughter, now I have the information to back up my decision to be dairy-free.

Name: claude gregoire
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York City
Time: 1999-08-26 23:21:22
Comments: I think this is a great thing that you are doing. I heard you on WBAI radio the other day and I was glad to hear that you had a web site. I am going to tell all my friends about this site and I hope you keep up the good work. Your friend, claude

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Claude,

School is about to start for New York City kids. Spread the word! Help me to make a difference for those children least able to afford the negative affects of milk and dairy products.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Christie
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: California
Time: 1999-08-26 07:19:08
Comments: I BELIEVE THAT THIS THING WITH JOSHUA JACKSON IS GETTING WAY OUT OF HAND. JOSHUA JACKSON HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU ARE MAD AT, FOR CHRISTS SAKE, JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE.

Dear Christie,

For Christ's sake?

His eminence, John Cardinal O'Connor, Archbishop of New York condemned that ad.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alice
Website: GymnAlice in Wonderland
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wonderland, of course :)
Time: 1999-08-26 01:16:44
Comments: I just got your book, hardbound. It was staring me in the face while I was buying some broccoli at Whole Foods. I'm finding it hard to put down! :-)

Will bug you more when I'm finished with it. :-P

Name: S. Fulmer
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: FL
Time: 1999-08-25 08:28:03
Comments: I actually heard about this on a talk radio station. I was shocked! I knew that milk was not healthy for us, but was glad for the information that we received that day. It gets hard trying to explain to people why we don't drink milk. They don't believe us. Their loss.

Name: Chris!!
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: McKean!
Time: 1999-08-25 03:07:45
Comments: Yeah, Milk is gay!

Name: Casey Morris
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: Myerstown
Time: 1999-08-24 04:10:13
Comments: Hey, I think the Joshua Jackson milk ad is just find I don't know where you get the idea that it should be taken. I Love it. so, bite me!!!!!!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Not before you provide documentation that you've had your rabies and distemper shots, dear.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Deb
Website: Dazey's Webpage
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 1999-08-24 03:28:52
Comments: I am glad that I found this site. My family and friends are still believing they need milk. Well now they can read up on it.

Name: Nicely, Fred
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: One of the
Time: 1999-08-23 09:11:50
Comments: I always suspected it, but now it is a proven fact in my book. Finally someone did the research, Thanks... What a country sometimes, big business always finds a way.....Its just a shame we all suffer from there greed"e"ness

Name: Gregary
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Taber, Alberta Canada
Time: 1999-08-22 12:50:13
Comments: I recommend Mr Cohen or to whom is directly responsible for the creation of such a ridiculous website. To those that find the simple minded explanations that milk should not be ingested is this, you must relize that the unfortunate desparate attempt of persuading and "brainwashing" that Mr Cohen and his associates are conjouring up are all just a clever yet elementary plan to generate financial gain. However, many people have believed even less far-fetched ideas (Hail-bop comet, Jonesville etc). Nice ridiculous ploy sir, MILK IS GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Thank you, Professor Irwin Corey.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: harry ciuffetelli
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: yonkers,ny
Time: 1999-08-20 09:01:31
Comments: i only wish i new when i was a kid, i might have had good teeth, sports used all my calcium i drank milk like crazy they said its what i need,i ges industry will do anything for a buck. even lie to mom, thats bad?

Name: Brenda
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Waterloo, Canada
Time: 1999-08-20 04:05:10
Comments: Wow!!!!!! This site is phenomenal!!!!!!! My new dream kitchen appliance is the Soy milk maker.

Name: Kathryn B. Caldwel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Macedon,New York
Time: 1999-08-19 21:30:43
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, As an animal advocate, I appreciate the message that we are all trying to convey to the general public - that milk is bad stuff!! RAVS and Animal Advocates of Upstate New York just last night were at Wegmans handing out literature because they had the milk mustache contest going on. A lot of people were really interested in the concept of dairy products being bad. I saw you at Farm Sanctuary and am going to see you again in October at the RAVS dinner. I can't wait!! Keep up the good work - we're with you all the way.

Name: Lisa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: San Bruno, CA
Time: 1999-08-19 12:36:46
Comments: I have very much enjoyed reading your website. You are right on! I've felt this way about milk for several years but I know no one who shares my concerns. I am so glad to have stumbled across your web page. I have been a food activist since the birth of my first child 5 years ago, eating mostly organic fruits and vegetables. I have printed some of your articles to share with my husband and mom. I will also be buying your book as soon as I can. My 5 year old son was diagnosed with asthma when he was 2 1/2. He takes medicine every day to ward off an attack. I have always felt that it must be something he's eating. He does not eat meat or drink milk (he eats lots of fruits!) but likes yogurt and cheese. My 2 1/2 year old daughter drinks a lot of milk. My husband commends her. Ugh, that's going to be a tough one. As soon as I can get to the store, I will be buying rice milk. I need to find an alternative for my daughter. (I tried soy milk a while ago, it was ok but it couldn't fool my toddler.) I will also be buying dairy free cheeses and yogurts and ice desserts! I am looking forward to an even healthier family. Thank you for fighting for the truth and for a healthier world. Now, if only the non-believers could believe, if just for a minute ....

Name: Stewart Cassidy
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Prescott AZ
Time: 1999-08-19 12:13:11
Comments: I am disappointed at the insulting manner in which you address animal rights people, especially since many are non-dairy advocates. The free literature put out by PETA (I know you think it stands for people eating tasty animals) covers the main points in your book without plowing through all the tedious verbeage.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Stewart,

Welcome home! We knew that rest at Shadydale hospital would clear those spider-webs from your attic! See? Those moths weren't real, were they?

Perhaps you missed last Sunday's column: "What Happens to the Udders?"

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/081599.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dr. Yoon
Website: Nature Gallery
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Korea (South)
Time: 1999-08-18 13:15:39
Comments: Dear Everybody loving nature and animals, Recently, the Korean National Assemblymen with Rep. Kim Hong Sin as the central figure introduced the bill for the legality of "dog-meat", and the animal protectionists are demonstrating to obstruct the fearsome bill. Help and rescue dogs from their butchery!! Send your protesting mails to Korean Goverment and Assemblymen!! Boycott the 2002 Korea-Japan Worldcup if the Bill was carriaged!! We need your help urgently! Send your same message all over the world!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dr. Yoon,

Do they have Kosher delicatessens in Seoul? They could call them Jewish/Korean Soul food restaurants and serve Beagle tongue sandwiches on bagles. The Korean/French restuaruants could serve poodle marsala, while the Korean/English restaurants could serve Shepherd pie peppered with actual shepherd.

Why do the above foods sound disgusting, while traditional foods are so readily accepted?

Instead of a ham sandwich, how about eating a pig's tush?

Anybody for baby cow leg, sliced very thin?

Cute cuddly chickens at Easter...we eat their arms and legs next Sunday.

Perhaps we should all be given a knife to cut the throat of our next meal and watch it die.

Next Thanksgiving I'm inviting twenty family members and I'll have a turkey... live in the back yard. I wonder if any of my relatives will volunteer to butcher the bird?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim Smith
Website: Jim, Bren and Jennifer's homepage
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 1999-08-16 11:21:53
Comments: Hi Mr Cohen. I have already signed your guestbook a while ago, but I have read a lot of the information you have put out, and am totally "weaned" off of dairy products. I have never felt better, I am less tired, can concentrate better, and don't have such bad intestinal side effects of milk like I used to. I think your site is very informative, and that more doctors should start telling us more about the problems with milk. The reason why I started giving it up, is that I had my duodenum removed several years ago, and I drank milk a lot up until the middle of last year. I have to say, there is just nothing like the taste of soy milk on corn flakes for breakfast. Regards and keep up the good work, Jim

Name: Barbara Bognr
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Arizona
Time: 1999-08-16 03:57:42
Comments: Growing up on milk and living in farm country, I was shocked to read the arguments AGAINST dairy consumption. I am well-educated, and, in graduate school, I LIVED on milk and cereal when i couldn't afford to buy anything else. After reading information from Dr. Andrew Weil and "Diet For A New America" by John Robbins, I recognize how I, my family, and my community, TOTALLY bought into the dairy propaganda of our NEEDING a certain quota of dairy products. Unfortunately, it seems the medical community, who should promote ONLY information that would benefit our health status, seems to follow traditional dairy misunderstandings rather than looking hard at the research showing the health risks thanks to our dairy industry. I'm so glad we are vegetarian, dairy-free, and darn close to vegan. Good luck to all who are working on this!

Name: Andrea Lieberman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-08-15 10:39:48
Comments: Robert, Thanks again for speaking at last weekend's Farm Sanctuary Hoe Down in Watkins Glen, NY. Your speech about milk was informative, interesting and eye-opening!

Name: Jeff Racey
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-08-15 09:04:03
Comments: Keep up the good work.

Name: Alice Srinivasan
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Milwaukee, WI
Time: 1999-08-15 01:27:37
Comments: This is indeed an excellent webpage. I had my suspicions that cow's milk might not be good for humans, but I had no idea it was so harmful! I'll buy soy and rice milk from now on. Thanks!

Name: Tim n Donna
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Georgia
Time: 1999-08-14 23:03:26
Comments: Well our comment is, interesting reading and most definitly something to consider and act upon

Name: Garry Hartman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Flint, MI
Time: 1999-08-14 10:30:58
Comments: Seen Robert at the Summerfest last month at the University of Pittsburgh. He was Great!!

Name: Donna Graves
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Georgia
Time: 1999-08-13 22:23:59
Comments: A very interesting site, not to mention informative. As a vegetarian of only 6 months, I will NOT be drinking milk or using dairy products in the future. The diabetes info was especially interesting, and, having a mother, Grandmother,(who lost both legs and her life due to that disease) and ex-husband with diabetes, it really hit home. Unfortunatly, I don't think I can convince them to give up dairy products, they are pretty close-minded! Again...thanks!!

Name: Thomas Frye
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Houma, LA
Time: 1999-08-12 00:25:01
Comments: I have become a notmilkman almost immediately after reading Mr. Cohen's information. If Monsanto went to all that trouble to keep their "trade secrets" something must be up. Better safe than sorry I say. I have always been one to go against the grain and now that I discovered the error of my ways (I have been a life long milk drinker and love it, although I had to go to nonfat dried milk about 10 years ago, recommended by a chiropractor, to rid myself of sinus congestion and sinus infections) I am no longer drinking milk. I am having a hard time accepting that I was fed all those dead pus cells and can never look at milk in the same way again. By the way both my sons born 90' and 94' have eczema , psoriasis and the one born in 94' has mild asthma. I'll eliminate dairy from their diet to see what effect it will have. I hope that is what does it, my older son is agonized by the condition of his skin. It does'nt look good ! Thank you Mr. Cohen.

Name: Thed Horkheimer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-08-11 13:43:09
Comments: It's too bad that you are so polemic about certain subjects (ie that the sight of nearly naked flesh bothers you-- ask yourself, which is worse: a naked body or a naked blade? And that statutory rape thing? Waaaay much of a stretch, there buddy) , because you're right on about the milk thing. I've been dairy-free for 8 years now, thanks to a severe allergy/intolerance. I also don't think you should prosetylize so much about vegan/vegetarianism. With my food allergies, if I didn't eat meat, I'd starve. But take comfort, I won't eat anything smart enough to take orders from me. Besides, if you don't eat milk, what good are cows if they're not food or leather? How many ecosystems died to make those vinyl shoes of yours and that naugahyde coat? Cows and rubber plants are what you might call renewable resources after all.

Name: Mikay Barrentine
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Marianna, Florida
Time: 1999-08-11 12:05:19
Comments: wonderful site!!! i have been a vegetarian for 22 years but only went vegan a few months ago and i already feel like a new person!!! just wonderful. keep up the good work. people need to educate themselves on health issues and sites like yours help alot. i have NEVER trusted the US government to give me the right information. MONEY is what runs this country, not concern for it's people's health.

Name: Diana Rackley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Arkansas
Time: 1999-08-11 05:29:55
Comments: I have been a vegan/ vegitarian for almost six months.In this past half of a year I have gotten a lot of grief over people hounding me for becoming a vegan and actually sticking with it. Thank you for supplying me with the intelectual back up to use to clearly state why I made the choice to change. I am giving a speech in one day from now (8-10-99)and the point of it is to persuade people to become vegg-heads :)-like me:) or at least try and improve the way that they eat to better their health. Thank you for the support and I am here for support to others that have to deal with the harrasment that comes with being a vegan. Yours truly, Diana M Rackley

Name: Lorraine Nicotera
Website: BRAVE
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Weymouth, MA
Time: 1999-08-11 04:47:25
Comments: Your webpage is so great!! I saw you speak this past weekend, enjoyed it alot and checked out your webpage. You've got a GREAT sense of humor about all this - I'm glad you're on our side!!By the way, can you say a few things about "whey"? Why do they put it in things; some cookies and other foods would be vegan except for the whey. What's it used for and how do they get it?

Name: Marguerite
Website: Rabbit Information Service
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 1999-08-10 10:40:27
Comments: Hi, I love the design and layout of your website as well as the contents of course. I hope that more people learn the REAL facts about dairy products. It concerns me greatly that the manufacturers of dairy products are inventing more and more dairy based snack foods with different brand names and textures for children. This has some children and adults buying more dairy produce than they may have purchased previously. It is obviously the flavouring and additives such as fruit that is selling these products and not "the white stuff". The packaging is also bad for the environment. Kind regards, Marguerite

Name: Laura
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Salt Lake
Time: 1999-08-09 23:30:42
Comments: I was just thinking about the whole milk idea. It seems strange to me that there is not one single other species that consums another species milk, just because. Not for emergency food or anything, just because. I don't think we are supposed to be drinking the "stuff". I am glad I moved away from it!!

Name: Pam Egan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Indian Harbour Beach, Florida
Time: 1999-08-09 22:08:57
Comments: I came across the book "Is This Your Child" & began to suspect my daughter's outbursts & ear infections were milk related. Off of dairy, she's had no more ear infections and the asthma episodes decreased dramatically. She also suffered from eczema, which according to the doctor, she outgrew. She "outgrew" it when she went off dairy. Thankfully, she was breast feed for the first year of life.

Name: Tim Kelly
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta, Ga
Time: 1999-08-07 03:03:53
Comments: Excellent webpage

Name: Paul Juntunen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-08-06 22:15:32
Comments: My sincere thanks go out to Robert Cohen for attending the 1999 AVS Conference in Boulder! I thoroughly enjoyed his lectures there & I am now reading his book. Keep up the great work!!! Paul in Reno

Name: Elisabeth Evans
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Harrisburg, PA
Time: 1999-08-06 21:13:59
Comments: I love the taste of cheese. Is there a healthy alternative.?

Name: Alyssa Bleckwehl
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: washington state
Time: 1999-08-06 09:48:07
Comments: I have always held suspicion that BGH in milk was making american children larger and heavier, and I am glad to see a movement toward the education of such dangers. Thanks!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Alyssa,

It's a good theory. After all, BGH (bovine growth hormone) is very similar to human growth hormone. Both versions have 191 amino acids in their structures, but the sequence of amino acids differs by about 35%. Therefore, the hormones are not a perfect match.

HOWEVER...IGF-I (insulin-like growth factor-I is an even more powerful growth hormone than BGH. IGF-I in humans and cows has 70 amino acids in the same exact gene sequence.

This hormone instructs every cell in the body to grow.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Amy Wiilkerson-Krause
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minneapolis
Time: 1999-08-06 04:02:38
Comments: Thanks for the info....I will pass the site on to all my health-conscience friends!

Name: Penny Varteresian
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Port Townsend WA. 98368
Time: 1999-08-05 21:56:30
Comments: I totally endorse what you are doing. I think it is tragic what we are doing to ourselves and our children through ignorance and marketing. Thank you for helping to get the word out about the danger of milk and milk products. If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. Sincerely Penny Varteresian

Name: Michael Gurwitz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington, D.C.
Time: 1999-08-05 20:35:11
Comments: I am a very healthy vegan and never regret for a second giving up milk, i.e. liquid snot. When you think about it, suckling from another animal is pretty disgusting, and isn't that just for babies anyway? Add to that the pus and other crap in modern milk (from all the chemicals and hormones pumped into cows to make them give more milk), the cruel conditions of factory farming, the disease associated with eating dairy (see the great article on this at www.slate.com) and the pollution generated by millions of tons of dairy cow manure, and I defy anyone to give me a single good reason for consuming a white liquid which is squirted out of an animal.

Name: Erika Luther
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Madison, WI
Time: 1999-08-05 20:18:33
Comments: Truly appreciate your info. Adds more firepower to my never-ending arguments against the cruel dairy industry.

Name: Laura
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Salt Lake City
Time: 1999-08-05 03:55:47
Comments: I have been reading up on this and I am completely taken back!! I wasn't aware that milk was so bad for you. I would like to raise my son on something other than milk, but what has enough vitamins? Rice milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Laura,

Pasteurization destroys vitamins.

Want vitamins? Got fruit? Got vegetables?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-08-05 02:45:34
Comments: Hi,

I just read some interesting material in a book titled "Natural Alternatives to HRT" by Marilyn Glenville. It is a very well written book and one particular passage caought my attention and really grossed me out. It is about whey, a by-product of cheese production. Here is what she said:

Avoid whey which is the yellow green by-product of cheese production. It has a vile taste and an awful smell. Because of the increase in cheese consum,ption more whey is produced than before. An article in Los Angeles Times, 4 December 1978, stated:

Not only is there more whey, but it is harder to dispose of. Stricter federal and state regulations prohibit dumping raw whey down sewers. Whey is 100 to 200 times stronger a pollutant than residential sewage and most municipal sewage plants cannot treat it adequately. Disposal in streams is out because water depletes waterways of oxygen, rendering them incapable of supporting marine life. Even disposal on land or gravel pits is often unsuitable because of seespage into water supplies. The solution hit upon by both industry and government is to apply high technology and sophisticated marketing techniques and feed the stuff to humans. Whey is increasingly showing up as a cheap substitute inbgredient in a wide range of processed foods, from bakery goods and ice cream to soup mixes and beverages.

It sounds like cheese production is not only bad for the environment and our health but also the by-products are fed to us in other foods. I will cerytainly make sure I read the labels VERY carefully from now on. Yuk!!!!!!!


Name: Kerri
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: New Brunswick, NK
Time: 1999-08-04 20:22:37
Comments: This page is put together well. I appreciated a lot of the information here. I only wish it was easier to share it with other people. So many are unwilling to accept that something that has been acceptable for centuries is no longer so. Thanks!

Most every informational page on NOTMILK.com has a text equivalent.
This makes it very easy to print out or send to someone.

In addition, at the bottom of the column page is a link to download
all of the TEXT formatted newsletters up to the noted date.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Gaetano Ruggiero
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-08-04 18:38:20
Comments: Information is power.

Name: Vivian Kline
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York, NY
Time: 1999-08-04 15:02:50
Comments: This is a great site. I never drink milk. Those milk moustaches make me sick, ugh. I don't eat cows and I don't drink cow's milk.

Name: Tess
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Santa Monica, CA
Time: 1999-08-04 12:21:27
Comments: Wonderful and informative site! I have switched to soy milk for 3 years now and absolutely love it. As a non-smoker, and having many friends that do smoke around me, used to make my body react by making me congested with mucus the next morning after spending a night out or in with those friends. The typical breakfast for me would be cold cereal and milk...so I made the connection. Yes, milk was the culprit. I do still have it in some foods on occasion but I avoid drinking it. The positive difference it made for me is amazing. The brand I buy (Silk 1%, in the refrigerated section only) tastes the closest to cow's milk than any other soy...I have tried almost all shelf brand soy milks out there ;) A message for all those that are still milk drinkers or soy milk drinkers thinking of switching....it's definitely worth a try, for you and your family's health!

Name: Kala
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 1999-08-04 07:44:31
Comments: Grew up on a farm, a dairy farm. Never did care for milk. To this day, I'm always getting repremanded for not drinking that all-important substance..."Your bones will break!" "You'll get a hump!" Too funny. Always suspected this milk deal was bogus. Love cows though. Sweet creatures and make for great Far Side humor.

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: ny
Time: 1999-08-04 06:45:28
Comments: if avoiding milk products, namely igf prevents cancer, would avoiding it after being diagnosed with cancer rid the body of cancer? a friend of my moms has cancer, and I'd like to tell her the good news. is there cafienee in all types of chocolate? could i drink chocolate almond milk and not worry about cafienne? thanx for the help.

I was the first in my family to be diagnosed with any cancer,
and my prostate cancer was already terminal at the young age
of 55.

It makes good sense that since IGF-1 can be considered a cancer
"fuel cell"... that if one eliminates this external supply by
removing all milk and dairy from the diet... it must slow down
the growth of a cancer. Unhealthy substances are not only in
the cows MILK, but also in her meat... so it would make sense
to eliminate meat, too. There are hundreds of non-meat/dairy
goodies... and thousands of ways to prepare them. Most Americans
have consumed far too much meat and dairy with too little fruits
and vegetables... that their immune systems have suffered.

Perhaps a more healthy diet will do wonders. Most certainly it
cannot hurt.


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim.

Name: CG
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: OAKLAND
Time: 1999-08-04 04:08:40
Comments: Interesting....looking to find out more. Alot of it makes sense.

Name: Jennifer
Website: Food Allergy Information
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Missouri
Time: 1999-08-03 23:32:51
Comments: Thank you for this lovely site. I will add it to my links on my page. I would love it if you came up with some information linking the heavy use of milk-based formulas instead of breastfeeding causing the high incidence of dairy allergies in North America.

Name: Becky Cohen
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button
From: Missouri
Time: 1999-08-03 19:45:00
Comments: I have always wondered what the real truth about milk was--thanks for your research...

Name: David Jensen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle
Time: 1999-08-03 12:40:34
Comments: I've sent this link to all my non-bovine friends.

Name: frank
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Windsor, Ontario
Time: 1999-08-03 10:08:09
Comments: keep up the good work - don't let the pustulent bastards get you down. Can you recommend a good vegan cookbook THAT I WILL USE! Cheers. Will be back

Name: Renee
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ohio
Time: 1999-08-03 00:54:57
Comments: Great site! Love the recipes, there are alot of substitutions! It is hard for me to give up cheese, so having a recipe for "cheese" is comforting, when giving up comfort foods!

Name: Krystal
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Mississippi
Time: 1999-08-02 00:39:21
Comments: Great information, great page, great research. Just for the benefit of the doubt, I visited several dairy organization pages to see if they had any research or discussions on these issues. They only had brief statements that were meant to disband the counter-dairy stance. Very weak indeed, but perhaps it's not that hard to convince the convinced.

Name: Jason
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Boston
Time: 1999-07-28 05:41:04
Comments: Robert, We have been having a vitamin B12 information-fest on another website for vegans. Without animal products in the diet, there is supposedly no reliable natural source of B12. We have been informed that fermented foods contain B12 analogs that actually interfere with B12 absorption and utilization. However, although we know that some bacteria must produce B12 in high enough quantities and in the proper form (or vegetarian animals would have no source, and naturally fortified supplements would be hoaxes), we have not found information as to which bacteria have proper amounts and forms. We get comments from aspiring nutritional epidemiologists such as this, answering questions on message boards: "I was diagnosed as having B-12 deficiency several months ago, my level was 100, it should be above 200. I had only been vegan for a couple of months and was lacto-ovo for five years before that. I don't understand why mine was so low. It goes against everything I read about vegetarians and b-12." Long-term lacto-ovo-vegetarians who become vegans have been reported to be at risk for B-12 deficiency. There is less B-12 in a lacto-ovo-vegetarian diet than in an omnivore diet, so your body's stores of B-12 were probably lower than average when you became vegan. Additionally, people use up these stores at different rates, just due to individual differences in physiology. "I do not have pernicious anemia or any mal absorbtion problems. I am still very frustrated by this." Why be frustrated? We all need B-12 in our diets. Vegans cannot get theirs from any known natural source, and therefore must rely on supplements or fortified foods. "I was in a lot of pain, muscle and joints for several months." How were you treated, and did the symptoms resolve after treatment? "I'm not trying to scare anyone, I just think this is a very serious issue." I'm glad you posted, and glad that your problem was corrected before any long-term damage occurred. I've been campaigning (as have many others) to dispell the myth that there are natural sources of B-12 in a vegan diet. This myth began before technology was available to distinguish active B-12 from inactive analogs of B12, and has been perpetuated by hucksters selling pond scum and ideologues who refuse to face reality. Hopefully, your story will help convince a few more vegans that they cannot get by without a reliable source of B-12 in their diets. -the end I am interested in your angle on this debate, as well as some further information about whether there are, in fact, any reliable vegan sources of B12. This is the biggest and most strongly held argument against veganism. Bearing a soystache, Jason

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jason,

The Vitamin B-12 debate is a whole lot of nonsense!

Vitamin B-12 is produced by bacterial action. Dip a carrot in alcohol and test it in a lab and you've just destroyed the vitamin B-12. Eat one carrot grown in rich (organic) soil and you'll satisfy your Vitamin B-12 requirement for the next five years of your life.

I am in Colorado at a Vegan conference. When I return home, I'll respond in greater detail.

BOTTOM LINE:

Vitamin B-12 is one of the least-important nutrients, and is used to judge an entire vegetarian lifestyle. Those critics do not base their knowledge on real science.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Shannon Teter
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: New York
Time: 1999-07-27 08:32:27
Comments: Wonderful and informative site! I will be advising others to visit.

Name: dana scheuerman
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: baltimore maryland
Time: 1999-07-26 23:00:05
Comments: i am glead that i heard about your report on the 98 rock station. i really don't drink milk unless its chocolate milk but fiancee' drinks a lot of it. he also heard your report and has decreased drinking milk at least 75%. it definately got through to him. not only what is in milk but what problems it can cause.

Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-07-25 23:15:47
Comments: Hi,

I would just like to comment on a program I watched on TV a couple of days ago (although not related to dairy products I believe thge same thing is happening right now in the dairy industry).

The program was about smoking. In the 50s smoking was seen as beneficial, healthy and natural. In fact my gran was pursuadfed to start smoking by her GP as a means of reducing stress and leading a more healthy lifestyle (this was in the 40s). The program had clips of people talking about their smoking addictions and their reactions to scientific studies that were coming out at the time claiming that tobaco caused lung cancer. Nearly everyone was shoked and wasn't willing to believe it. The tobaco companies retaliated to the scientists claims and tried to devise experiments that were deliberately flawed to show thgat there was no risk of lung cancer. The program also talked about the corruption between the tobaco companies and the government at the time because the industry was taxed and created revenue for governmental agencies. For a long time after the studies tobaco was still promoted as beneficial to health. Evemtually the evidence from scientific studies was too much to ignore. The governments issued health warnings on all tobaco products. The tobaco companies thought back with massive adverytising blitz and bringing out a "filtered" cigarette that apparentlky removed all the danger (this is rather similar to skimmed milk I feel). Now tobaco products carry health warnings by law. I believe the same fate will happen to the dairy industry. The evidence has amounted to a point were we can no lonbger ignore it. Sooner or later the governm,ent will have to act and I believ it wont be long (well may be 10 - 20 years) before all milk cartons will have similar health warnings on them.


Name: Maria Perez
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-07-24 06:00:36
Comments: When I was in college I had a roommate who's father was a gynecologist. My roommate said that her father had cured many patients with reocurring yeast infections by advising them to stop eating dairy products. At the time I thought my roommate and her father were crazy, but now that I've stopped consuming milk and dairy products I know that they were right. My roommate's father also cured many cases of infertility by advising against dairy products. On a different note: My grandmother has osteoporosis and I'd like to introduce her to your web page but she only speaks spanish. Are you considering making your web page bilingual any time soon?

Translations have been discussed, but as yet they are not a work
"in progress". GOOD translations are not easy to come by, considering
the number of technical and medical terms used for this topic.

Regards... Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George B.C.
Time: 1999-07-24 00:59:44
Comments: According to figures published by Statistics Canada, dairy imports from the United States amounted to $26,834,000 worth in 1993. I have no more recent figures but that level of import continued to the present represents a tremendous amount of rBST/rBGH coming into the Canadian food supply. Health Canada may have banned the USE of rBST/rBGH in dairy cattle but apparently no one has banned the CONSUMPTION by people of rBST/rBGH dairy and it's high level of IGF-1.

This DOES make one wonder WHO (if anyone) is minding the store
or if anyone really has an overall understanding of this problem,
that *could* lead to a comprehensive and unified treatment of this
important health-related subject.


Regards, Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Elenei Boborovitsch-Jokyschite
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Outer Mongolia
Time: 1999-07-23 11:05:52
Comments: Dear Mr Cohen - I am a medical student from Outer Mongolia. I don't speak your English very well but I DO know that what you are saying is 100% correct. When I arrivied in the evil West civilization (I was on holiday in Hawaii) I started drinking milkshakes (banana being my favourite) ...and I am now obese, spotty and phlegmy. You speak the truth about the horrors of this white substance. I am now back in my village - where there's only yaks milk...but I can't catch them - so that's okay. When are you coming to my town to give a talk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Ms. Boborovitsch-Jokyschite,

It's not an easy task to tame those beasts, but here is a technique that usually works. Approach the animal from directly in front, showing the palms of both hands (so the animal does not see you as being a threat). Then kneel before the 1,800 pound beast and softly chant, "Yakity-yak, yakity-yak."

In about 30 minutes your yak will drift off to sleep. You can then milk the animal.

WARNING

Be very careful in making sure that you select the female of the species. You'll be rewarded with about two quarts of milk in about a minute. I don't even want to think about the consequences of milking a male yak. He will most certainly wake up.

After you have collected the two quarts of yak milk, churn it into yak butter. This should take about two hours and you'll end up with about 1/4 pound, or the eqivalent of one stick of butter.

At today's Mongolian trade rates, you should be able to exchange that for a one-pound bag of soybeans. This should easily feed your mother, father, and eleven brothers and sisters. Either that, or use the butter to grease the wheels of your cart.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ted D. Barnett, M.D.
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Rush, NY
Time: 1999-07-22 08:49:40
Comments: Enjoyed hearing Robert Cohn speak at the Summerfest in Johnstown, PA. July, 1999

Name: David
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Frederick, MD
Time: 1999-07-22 05:54:10
Comments: Let's talk about your hormones of preference. The American Society for Reproductive Medicine has proven that estrogen and progesterone help offset the impact of IGF-1 and prolactin. That is fact one. Secondly, are you familiar with osteoporosis? Please! Continue bashing milk and then find yourself old with fragile bones. Finally, do you understand how much milk you would have to drink to experience an overload of testosterone? The benefits of milk far outweigh any of your threats. Any other insights?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear David,

The American society for Reproductive what? Is this a Larry Flynt organization? If you return to this guestbook please bring the reference to that study.

Steroid hormones like estradiol act to increase the bioactivity of IGF-I by about thirty times.

IGF-I has been called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast and prostate cancer.

As for the dairy industry calcium myth, the largest study in mankind's history (Harvard Nurses study) has proven that women who ate a lot of cheese and drank a lot of milk as teenagers grew up to have higher rates of forearm and pelvic fractures than those who did not eat dairy products.

Why is there a calcium crisis and not a magnesium crisis? For every milligram of calcium you want to absorb you need an equal milligram of magnesium.

Magnesium is the center atom of chlorophyll.

Perhaps we are not aware of a magnesium crisis because the broccoli growers do not pay 20 cents per hundred pounds (like milk producers do) to the national broccoli marketing board.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: David
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Frederick, Maryland
Time: 1999-07-22 02:56:46
Comments: Dear Mr. Not Milkman, I applaud your webpage for being an example of your right to free speech. I cannot, however, endorse any of the "information" you have presented. I come from a family of dairy farmers. Not only does the dairy industry make up the greater part of our family income, it is also a large part of our lives. True, there are a small percentage of people who become sick when exposed to milk, but there are also people who get sick consuming eggs or vegetables. It is unfair to blame an industry for someone's allergy or abnormality. I am familiar with the history of the dairy industry and the tragedies that have occurred (i.e. mixing chalkwater with milk). There are concerted efforts to ensure that milk is sanitized and processed to present the best product to the public. I would like you to present credentials and give some empirical evidence to your claims. It is one thing to not drink milk, and another to make others do the same. Here's a milk toast from me to you.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear David,

I'll drink that "toast" with a glass of water, thanks.

For generations, your family imagined that it was producing nature's perfect food. Imagine learning that milk contained powerful growth hormones. Talk about a shock to your system.

Shall we discuss those hormones? Which ones would you have my children take? Estrogen, progesterone, prolactin, testosterone or IGF-I?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cristina
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Italy
Time: 1999-07-21 17:10:05
Comments: Dear Mr.NOTMILKMAN, I think you’ve done a great job with your site. Yeah, really! That’s a pity, for this is all crap… But before speaking about this matter, I would like to say that I’m Italian, and I do not know your language well; I’m still trying to learn. So I know I’ll make some mistakes in my entry; but if you are smart, you’ll know that the really important things are contents, not form. I’m a medical student, so I know my stuff, and I could tell you that drinking milk or eating cheese is good for my health, without exceeding, of course; do you know that without calcium, you cannot even move your fingers to type your answer in your (CENSORED) guestbook? Anyways, I’m not here to tell you that milk is wholesome; you think that it’s dangerous for health, and it’s your opinion. It’s not my business to tell you that you are wrong. The thing which makes me really angry is that you think you are so important, and that we are all morons for we have a different opinion. You told Nicole that she uses drugs only because she mentioned coffee. You told Alessandra she will go to Hell only because she likes milk and Dawson’s Creek…. I cannot think you really believe what you say. It would be too sad. Obviously you are not stupid; you did a good job with this page and you believe that milk is dangerous for health…. So, show us your intelligence and try to answer to our entries without turn every sentence against us… if you behave this way, maybe it’s only because your arguments are not so good.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cristina,

Yours is the 1,275th letter written to my guestbook.

It is rare that I receive a critical letter with a specific informational complaint. As a medical student, perhaps you have some real science to teach me.

Of course we need calcium! I have never said that we do not.

Too much protein inhibits calcium absorption. Doctors know this, but they irresponsibly keep truth from their patients. Why? Their brainwashed patients would leave them for another fool.

Telling the truth is sometimes unhealthy for one's financial outlook.

The NOTMILK website contains thousands of bits of information and has cited thousands of medical studies.

My critics use foul language and focus upon my criticism of the dairy industry "sex" agenda.

GOT FACTS, Cristina?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Aurora
Website: Youth for the Enviorment Veganism and Animal Liberation
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minnesota
Time: 1999-07-21 05:11:31
Comments: Hello. I am a 15 year old Vegan and it's great to have informational sites like this one out there! I have found that if you want to win an argument with a nonvegan, have knowledge. Knowledge is power! :) VeganGirl@collegeclub.com

Name: Eggee
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: England, UK
Time: 1999-07-21 04:26:46
Comments: Hi Mr NotMilkman! Your site is very informative. I have been here once before, but like very many other people, I thought that you couldn't possible be right. But I have been talking to others who have had 'strange' experiences with milk, so I am writing to ask you if there are any connections between milk and acne? i would very much appreciate any information you may have. Thank you, Eggee

Dear Eggee,

Teenagers have incredibly large amounts of surging hormones. Behavioral psychologists believe that's what ultimately drives their parents insane. Being the father of two teenage girls...I most certainly concur!

My teenagers have a remarkable absense of acne.

Zits are pus-filled oily pimples.

Milk is pus with hormones, fat and cholesterol.

Combine pus with hormones in a teenager's body and zits result.

GOT MILK?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Susan Keane
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1999-07-21 03:33:48
Comments: I would like to thank Dr. Cohen for changing my life. I used to eat a lot of unealthy food including dairy products, and I used to feel so bad. Now I've started eating a vegetarian diet and I feel a lot better. I've become an happy, healthy person. I was previously depressed. I feel like my own body is getting better every day. Thank you Dr. Cohen! NotMilk has made my life worth living!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Susan,

Don't thank me. Thank yourself for learning the truth about milk and dairy products. Just for the record, I am not a doctor. I am not a healer either, but neither are most physicians! In this case, you have done more for yourself than any physician could have. Think of the money you saved on phony drug prescriptions!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michelle Howell
Website: The Blooming Lotus
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Columbus, OH
Time: 1999-07-20 20:27:18
Comments: It's been a year now since your page inspired me to become a vegan. Before that I was conned into believing that in order to be a healthy vegetarian, I had to consume LOTS of dairy products. Since then, I've made my household dairy free as well. My children,(ages 3 & 6), are the healthiest in our neighborhood! Basically, I just wanted you to know how much you've changed the lives of my entire family...Thank You Mr. Cohen! Michelle

Name: Candice
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 1999-07-20 08:47:53
Comments: I'm a little confused about something, and I was hoping you could help me. In your list of foods that contain calcium you have things like potato chips, peanuts, etc., but when you read the food label on these items it says 0% calcium or not a signifigant source of calcium. Why is that? I was surprised to find even the leafy green vegetables that are supposed to be rich in calcium only have 2% calcium listed. It doesn't sound like that's alot, is it more than I think? I'm concerned because I'm hoping I'm getting enough calcium if there's only like 2% calcium in the foods I'm eating, although I do drink rice milk that says 30%, so I hope that makes up for it. I'm vegan, so I don't consume dairy products. Can you help me figure this out?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Candice,

Few people would call potato chips "health food." Potato chip manufacturers are simply not aware that there are 33 milligrams of calcium in a 100 gram portion of human breast milk and 40 milligrams of calcium in an equal portion of chips.

The label on their bag is required by USDA. That label reflects the recommended daily requirement for calcium.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Monet
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: what's it to you???
Time: 1999-07-20 04:50:40
Comments: Ok, first of all, this page really lacks, and second of all, who the (CENSORED) do you think you are?????? I mean, Nicole's my friend and that entry you twisted is a piece of(CENSORED) it really pissed me off and Nicole too, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HER YOU LOSER!!!!! Having fun yet??? Oh and also, Nicole informed me that you wanna ban Josh's milk ad, what the (CENSORED) is that?? That ad rules! You need to get a life, this page (CENSORED)and so do you. PS~Hanson rulez, their milk ad is awesome, and shout~outs to all my friends: Nicole, Natalie, Alli, Joi, Britney, Leah, Zach, Rob, Chris, and anyone I forget, hey to you! Cya people, stay cool.

Name: Jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Plano, Texas
Time: 1999-07-20 04:32:29
Comments: I understand you don't like milk, that's fine. Some people like milk, some people don't. I'm just curious and confused about the whole Josh Jackson ad. (yes, i'm bringing that up, sorry)I think since the media has pushed so much sex and violence on tv, or everywhere you look, that some people can get a little confused.(I'm not trying to sound mean or anything, I'm trying to sound as mature for a 22 year old as possible.) I think, though, that the Joshua Jackson ad is purely harmless. Many people don't even watch Dawson's Creek, and would take it in a funny way. There's nothing "sexual" about it. I read the ad carefully, and I noticed that the ad is discussing height, not rape. So, I just wanted to state that. ~Thank you for your time.

Name: Dawn
Website: American Sky: A Never Ending Ride
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Utah
Time: 1999-07-19 22:13:35
Comments: Nice page-I like the layout and the graphics. Some people like milk some people don't-that's the way of the world. I read some of your gb entries and see that if someone doesn't agree with you, they are the one wrong. Must be nice. I would love to always be right; let me know your secrets. I'm sure you'll change my entry to suit yourself. I won't waste my time insulting you or your page. I don't need to do that to make myself feel better. Have a wonderful day and keep up the awesome work on the page! -Dawn

Name: Nicole
Website: Somewhere Past Yourself
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: here..
Time: 1999-07-19 03:17:19
Comments:

NOTE: Nicole wrote privately to me. She was upset that I treated her letter like dialogue. In fairness, I've reprinted her letter at the bottom of this post, exactly as it was written. You have the option to scroll down to the bottom of the page and read her letter first, or read my treatment of it.

The NOTMILKMAN

_______________________________________________________________________________

Excuse me----I EXCUSE YOU

Are you lactose intolerant----NO

and pissed off at the world because of it?----NOPE

You must have some major issues to devote an entire web page to hating milk. ----I'M GLAD YOU NOTICED.

Milk has been around for thousands of years ----BUT REFRIGERATORS HAVE NOT

and just because like 2 people have had illnesses because of it you think that everyone should just stop drinking milk----YEP

OH and what the heck is with your joshua jackson milk ad banning thing anyway? Hello?? ::knock knock:: ----COME IN, NICOLE

is there anyone home in that thick skull of yours??---- I WAS THE SUBJECT OF THE OCTOBER ISSUE OF JULIAN WHITAKER'S "HEALTH AND HEALING" NEWSLETTER, THE LARGEST READ MEDICAL NEWSLETTER IN THE WORLD. I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THOUSANDS OF PHYSICIANS.

I mean come on! It's a JOKE ----IT'S NO JOKE, NICOLE.

you know the things people laugh at (other than you).---- PERHAPS I'VE LOST MY SENSE OF HUMOR.

You need to get a life (you know what most people have)---- GOOD SUGGESTION. I'LL EXPLORE THAT AFTER NEXT WEEK'S TELEVISION BLITZ IN WHICH I DO EIGHTEEN TV SHOWS IN THIRTEEN DAYS.

and realize that people are just not buying this crap:---- ACTUALLY, LAST YEAR THEY BOUGHT 170 BILLION POUNDS OF THAT CRAP...AND 370 BILLION ROLLS OF CHARMAN. WE'D PUT MR. WHIPPLE OUT OF BUSINESS IF WE ELIMINATED PUS WITH HORMONES AND GLUE FROM OUR DIETS.

notice that almost everyone who signs this is AGANST you---- ACTUALLY, THE BRAINLESS TEENAGERS ARE AGAINST ME. I CHECKED YOUR WEBSITE, NICOLE. YOUR PARENTS MUST BE QUITE PROUD OF YOU.

(as in not agreeing with you). Wake up and smell the coffee---- CAFFEINE POSSESSION WAS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH DURING THE TWELTH CENTURY, NICOLE. ANY OTHER DRUGS YOU RECOMMEND?

(with cream :a dairy product not unlike milk)---- YOU MEAN, THE "STUFF" THAT RISES TO THE TOP? GOT FAT?

and realize that you are dillusional---- DILL-USIONAL? IS THAT AN HERB, OR DO YOU NEED A SPELLING LESSON?

and need medical attention.---- THANKS FOR YOUR SECOND OPINION, NICOLE.

_________________________________________________________________________________

HERE IS NICOLE'S ORIGINAL LETTER:

Excuse me. Are you lactose intolerant and pissed off at the world because of it? You must have some major issues to devote an entire web page to hating milk. Milk has been around for thousands of years and just because like 2 people have had illnesses because of it you think that everyone should just stop drinking milk OH and what the heck is with your joshua jackson milk ad banning thing anyway? Hello?? ::knock knock:: is there anyone home in that thick skull of yours?? I mean come on! It's a JOKE you know the things people laugh at (other than you).You need to get a life (you know what most people have) and realize that people are just not buying this crap: notice that almost everyone who signs this is AGANST you (as in not agreeing with you). Wake up and smell the coffee (with cream :a dairy product not unlike milk) and realize that you are dillusional and need medical attention.


Name: Gemma
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England
Time: 1999-07-19 00:22:48
Comments: I would just like to say that even though I do love Josh Jackson and would jump to his defence I would have to agree with you. People need to see that this site isn't a stab at Josh himself(Josh might not even like milk)it is commmenting on what he said in the ad. Pacey Witter is a character and in this ad people need to see that Josh was just playing his character Pacey Witter. Josh's lines for Dawson's Creek were scripted just like these lines in the Gotmilk ad were scripted and although promoting rape and teacher/student relationships may not have been intentional. This is what has come across to a part of the audience. However much you love Josh Jackson think past that and realise that this campaign has nothing to do with Josh Jackson personally it's to do with the dairy industry and how they advertise. Not the stars of the adverts.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

EXACTLY!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rach
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: England
Time: 1999-07-18 22:16:28
Comments: I would like to agree with Anana about the Josh Jackson milk ad. It was obviously meant to be just a light-hearted joke, in the style and persona of his character on Dawson's Creek, Pacey Witter. I don't know why people have to take some things so seriously and try to analyse them to discover hidden meanings that weren't even there in the first place! I mean, what kind of a person with half a brain cell is going to believe that you can get an older woman by drinking milk! Yeah, right. People are not that stupid!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Rach,

You English teenagers are much smarter than American teens. You say: "People are not that stupid." How intelligent of you to make that observation.

However, consider this. Our dairy industry spends $250 million American dollars on those ads every year. Are you naive enough to think that they are wasting those dollars on a program that does not work?

Brainwashing works because the brain being washed does not realize what's going on. I'd say that you're somewhere in the rinse cycle, Rach. Let me know when you're ready to be hung out to dry.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-07-18 22:13:38
Comments:

Dear Notmilkman,

Your site is very informative and interesting! I would like to add my comments on a few issues you have talked about or that have been talked about in this guestbook.

Firstly, I would like to point out the stupidity of one of Monsanto’s claims that the use of rBST will reduce problems of global warming because less cows will be required to produce the same amount of milk and therefore less methane will be produced thus reducing the greenhouse effect. This is completely absurd! It is like the government proposing a new way to reduce greenhouse emissions by increasing the speed limits on the roads. Their logic would be that the increased speeds on the roads would reduce the time we spent in cars and because less time was spent in cars, fewer emissions would be produced thus reducing the greenhouse effect. Of course this would not be the case because the faster speeds of the cars would cause a faster burning of the fuel (petrol, diesel etc) and hence the emissions would not be reduced. This is the same in the case of rBST. This hormone increases the metabolism of the cow, which in turn increases the milk production. However, the increased metabolism obviously results in an increased metabolism of food and an increased in the amount of methane a single cow will produce. I know you have made this point before but I just thought an analogy might make it a bit clearer.

The second point I would like to make is the ridiculous idea that the consumption of dairy products increases bone strength. This may at first glance seem a logical conclusion as milk contains high amounts of calcium and calcium is needed to build strong bones. However, there are many factors that contribute to strong bones such as relative levels of oestrogen and progesterone hormones, magnesium and calcium balance in the diet, protein intake and exercise. Whilst milk may contain high levels of calcium it is somewhat lacking in magnesium which is needed in approximately equal amounts in the body for efficient use of calcium. It also contains large amounts of hormones such as oestrogen and IGF-1 and also high levels of protein. So to summarize milk contains one protective element (calcium) and three factors that increase the risk of osteoporosis (low magnesium levels in relation to calcium levels, hormones and protein). In some studies it has actually been shown that regardless of the amount of calcium taken in in the diet, calcium lost from bones is the same on a high protein diet. That is to say, it is not so much a lack of calcium in the diet but a lack of absorption and increased loss of calcium from the bones that is more important in the cause of osteoporosis. To draw another analogy we need to ask ourselves how do all the other animals on the planet build strong bones without consuming milk during adulthood? The most striking example of this I feel is the elephant. It is a magnificent creature of huge size and strength that can live to over 100 years. It has huge bones and tusks and its demand for calcium must be much higher than that of a human. Yet I have never watched a nature program and been told by the narrator (read in a David Attinborough voice for maximum effect):

"These animals are truly remarkable. There huge bones and tusks obviously require large amounts of calcium yet due to the animals inability to suck the milk from a cows’ udder these animals are very fragile. Their bones are destined to break easily and we are fortunate enough to get as close as this without scaring them as this could cause them to easily break a bone".

Why do people find it so hard to believe that one can’t produce strong bones without milk when clearly this is not the case (and the elephant clearly proves otherwise)? The answer of course is millions of dollars (or pounds) spent in brainwashing people by the dairy industry. A much better approach would be to take in calcium and magnesium in sufficient levels (as provided by seeds, nuts, green leafy vegetables) and increasing exercise. If the dairy industry was really concerned about osteoporosis this is the recommendation that they should be making.

The third point I would like to make is in response to a guestbook entry from a long time ago (I don’t remember exactly when or what number). The argument was that hormones in milk are of no threat to us because of the concentration gradient of the hormones across the gut wall. The claim was that as the concentration of these hormones would be higher in the blood there would be a concentration gradient in favour of not absorbing the hormones into the blood stream. The author asked if you had done your homework and realized this. I ask him if he ever took biology at school. If I remember correctly the theory behind the concentration gradient is that if there is a higher concentration of something on one side of a permeable membrane then there will be an increased rate of flow from the higher concentration across the permeable membrane to that of the lower concentration. There is a flow across the membrane from both sides but the one with the higher concentration simply has an increased flow rate than that of the lower concentration. If given sufficient time this process will continue until both sides have the same concentration. Now if the level of the hormone inside the gut is nothing (i.e. no hormones consumed through diet) then no hormones will pass into the blood stream. If there is some hormones in the gut then they will pass into the blood stream but just at a slower rate than from the blood to the gut. The flow from the blood to the gut will not increase and thus there would be an increased amount of the hormones in the blood.


Name: Allie
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From:
Time: 1999-07-18 11:26:33
Comments: My, my, my...you're the anti-milk one, eh? Soo...you hate milk, you don't want to, let's say, touch milk, much less to drink it. And...I can assume that you never and will never have stuff like ice cream, milk shake, taart, chocholate, pie, chees burger, ...anything that contains milk? Boy, you sure know how to not enjoying life, don't you?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Allie,

If you call getting rid of my yearly allergies, and ridding my lungs of mucus "not enjoying life" then I plead guilty.

If you call needing five hours of sleep every night and getting my cholesterol level below 150 "not enjoying life," then you're decribing me.

If you call not eating virus, pus, bacteria, powerful growth hormones, allergenic proteins, fat, cholesterol, dioxins, pesticides and antibiotics "not enjoying life," then you are most certainly talking about yours truly!

I sure live a boring life! The average American spends ten years dying of either heart disease or cancer. I intend to continue living my boring life, and die a boring death.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mark Guertin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Québec, Canada
Time: 1999-07-18 01:22:44
Comments: Bonjour à tous, Vous qui êtes sceptique des coté non désiré que nous apporte le LAIT. J'ai fait l'expérience plusieurs fois, j'ai arrêté de boire et consommé les produits laitier et depuis quand je reprend un produit laitier, le lendemain j'ai des douleur dans toutes les articulations de mon corps. Je remarque aussi des infection et plusieurs fois j'ai attrapé un virus à la suite d'une consommation laitière. Jài la sclérose en plâques et aussi depuis mon état reste stable. Mark

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mark,

A friend translated you letter. Here is the English version:

Hello to you, the milk skeptic. I've done this experiment several times, I stopped drinking and consuming dairy products and when I begin again, the following day I have pain in all parts of my body. I notice also infections and several times I caught a virus following dairy consumption.

Mark, perhaps something was lost in the translation, but I got the message, and apparantly, so have you!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Anana
Website: Anana's Amazing Website
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 1999-07-17 09:19:09
Comments: I would like to comment on ur opinion on the milk ad featuring Joshua Jackson. It is merely a joke saying that his character "gets" mature woman by drinking milk. I don't see anything wrong with that. Us, teens just get a laugh of it. Jackson is tall because he drinks a lot of milk. We don't know if his character on Dawson's Creek "Pacey Witter" does drink milk. The ad simply encourages kids/teens to drink milk to grow taller. The "older woman" part is just a joke. I believe teens will not take the other meaning of the ad... if there is EVEN another meaning.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

There is another meaning, Anana.

You know it, I know it and the dairy industry counts on it. Sex sells, Anana.

When I was a teen, that type of thing offended young women. Of course, young women of today do not have the same passions that young women had in the 1970's. We were another generation. I can understand how you allow yourself to be subservient to the marketing and brainwashing of the sexy brainwashing milk ads.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alexandra
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Italy
Time: 1999-07-17 04:53:27
Comments: I read your answer, mr NotMilkman. You cleverly used your knowledge of foreign culture and fictiously defined me as a traditional, religious and supersticious girl. You taunted my protest with false menaces of going to hell. Can't you argument your answers in a not-so-childish way? And, more, do you think that by saying one obvious thing (I live near the Pope, yeah, right, so what?)that should frigthen me or change my opinion? Have you ever thought I couldn't care less about che Holy Church? I might surely agree on what you said about rape, but is surely a stupid and useless thing to rage againts things like this. Once more, if you want to fight against milk and for your supposed (but, in my opinion, wrong) theory, change your battle ground. Use more of that scientific stuff, and don't blame a young and talented actor who probably didn't write that lines. Don't blame a TV series who corrected its mistakes in two episodes (Mrs. Jacobs realizes her own mistake and leaves). Blame WhyMilk, right, but try to remember that technically it said nothing wrong. Josh is 20, and he has the right to say whatever he wants. He can impress an older woman, he can even marry a 60 years old widow if he feels like. People will look at him as Pacey Witter, surely, but this is a clever trick from the milk company. Speaking about milk, I don't like milk too much, but I still think it's a healthy component of a good diet. Here in Italy, besides religion, we have a very strong food culture, and I can assure you that milk helps, somehow. Cows make good steaks, excellent milk, and milk makes excellent cheeses. I don't like meat so much, either, but I respect other people's thought. I like cheese, and I'm quite fond of all the different cheeses we have here, but I don't exceed because I know it's not good for my health. I say people should drink milk and dairy products for their own pleasure, and I think that milk surely does no bad thing in human body, and neither do dairy products, if taken in proper quantities. Heck, people drink alcoholics and smoke cigarettes, and we worry about MILK???????????? Again, let's fight our battles in worthy fields. Let's leave Josh Jackson alone, this is surely none of our business. At least, not here. Sincerely, Alex

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Alexandra,

You wrote:

"I don't like milk too much, but I still think it's an healthy component of a good diet."

You then wrote:

"I'm quite fond of all the different cheeses we have here, but I don't exceed because I know it's not good for my health."

I'm glad we cleared that up!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sue
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta
Time: 1999-07-17 02:14:35
Comments: Thank you for this informative and very relevant site! I had no idea some of the things you describe were true about the Dairy Industry, milk, etc. Now, the stuff about the FDA and Congress - that I can believe! I haven't voted in 10 years and I have no intention of starting now. They are all a bunch of self-serving, callous, money-grubbing people who don't give a damn about the American public, the truth, or the Constitution. Thank you for the expose's on their hypocritical tactics. Shame on them for allowing the FDA to continue to LIE to us, not only about milk, but about the safety of our food in general. Like fat content of food - what a bunch of hooey! Low fat is NOT 45% of calories coming from fat - that's a blatent lie! You should get a medal for the work you are doing... thanks again!

Name: Natalie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England
Time: 1999-07-16 14:17:31
Comments: The scientifc evidence that you have against milk being mad for you is weak and if it helped to cause any illness it would be publically known - not just on a website

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Natalie,

Real science is "publically known."

The dairy industry spends billions of dollars to brainwash people like you with goofy milk mustache ads.

This site exists as the antidote to the dairy industry lies.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Truly amazing how many "strong supporters" of cow's milk
and dairy don't have the strength of conviction to be
responsible for their comments!

Yet another nameless/Email address-less fact-less but
OPINIONATED "surfer".

Dave Rietz, Webmaster and victim


Name: whatever
Website: Pacey and Andie...
Referred by: AngelFire
From: wa
Time: 1999-07-16 11:52:38
Comments: ok, if milk is so bad, then how come it keeps so many people alive and healthy??

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Whatever,

Even the milk marketing board wouldn't go that far!

I hear that ice cream is to die for.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: June Cleeland
Website: SEXY SEER DOES SYDNEY
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-07-16 11:40:53
Comments: I am incredibly beautiful, sexy, lithe limbed and healthy. I don't consume any dairy products or animals...errr.....could this be the reason?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear June,

I just came back from six days in Johnstown, Pennsylvania where I attended the North Amercian Vegetarian Society yearly conference/retreat with 600 vegetarians. I didn't see one zit all week! Now, what are the odds of that?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lila Anne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York
Time: 1999-07-16 01:25:12
Comments: If milk is so horrible, why do mothers nurse their children with milk? From what you're saying that mother's shouldn't nurse their young at all. If God intended milk to be bad, do you think he would have done this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lila,

I am a strong advocate for breastfeeding. Mother's milk is nature's perfect formula for the young of each specific species.

Instinctively, adult humans know better than to drink human breast milk. Instinctively we know not to drink dog's milk...even though they are man's best friends.

All milk contains hormones, lactoferrins and immunoglobulins.

These substances are beneficial to infants, not adults. Babies should double their weight in three months, not adults.

The most powerful growth hormone in a cow's body (IGF-I) is identical to the same hormone in the human body.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: robert stoops
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: maryland
Time: 1999-07-15 05:26:51
Comments: wow man i was listing to you on 98 rock the other morning milk is so sick thanks for the in put

Name: Nicole
Website: Nicole Lee Morgans slambook
Referred by: AngelFire
From: Georgi
Time: 1999-07-15 03:53:43
Comments: WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT STATUTORY RAPE? THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE TALKING ABOUT A TEENAGER HAVING SEX WITH AN ADULT. THEY WERE JUST SIMPLY SAYING THAT YOU COULD IMPRESS AN OLDER FEMALE NOT HAVE SEX WITH AND ADULT FEMALE JUST IMPRESS SOMEONE OLDER THAN YOU!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nicole,

Come on back for a visit after those training wheels are removed from your bicycle and I promise to get into this with ya!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kellie Clugston
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Milton, PA
Time: 1999-07-15 00:55:43
Comments: Do you have any info on the connection between depression and the consumption of dairy products?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kellie,

In May of 1995 a doctor's newsletter (Townsend Medical Letter) listed eleven symptoms from milk consumption. These symptoms included mood swings, irritability, and depression.

Each sip of milk contains 59 different bioactive hormones.

My suggestion is to eliminate all milk and dairy products for just one week and pay careful attention to how you feel and the differences in your own behavior.

GOT MILK? GOT HORMONES!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: richard g.stant jr.
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: delaware
Time: 1999-07-14 22:50:04
Comments: I was listening to 98 rock in baltimore on 7-13-99 and looked up your web site at the office. it was very intersting so i looked it up and turned some of my friends on to it>

Name: Charlie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Maryland
Time: 1999-07-13 20:11:48
Comments: I just heard a radio interview with someone of your organization and surfed in this morning at work. A very good friend of mine used to always say "I never eat cheese or drink milk.....didn't you know that it's in the "snot-family?"......now I believe! I will now boycott dairy and urge others too! of...great page, too.

Name: Jill
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Maryland
Time: 1999-07-13 17:31:50
Comments: Hi. I heard you on the 98 Rock morning show and it definetely caught my interest. I checked out the web page and I was amazed. I cant believe that the people we put in charge of our lives would allow this to happen. I'm not a big fan milk myself. I always feel like I can't swallow after I drink it. Like my throat is full of mucus. I guess that would explain that feeling. I want to thank you for trying to keep people informed. We need someone to look out for us. I dont know if you send out newsletters or something but if you do I would love one. I plan on buying your book. It would be good to show my parents that milk isnt that great for you after all and that I wasnt wrong to not want to drink it all those years when that was what we had to drink at the dinner table and we couldnt get up until it was done. Keep up the good work and you have a supporter here. Thanks, Jill Cook

Name: brett
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-07-13 13:34:20
Comments: I have a question. You say that a liter of cows' milk is permitted to have twenty thousand live bacterial cells after pasteurization. Just to compare, how much bacteria might the same amount of milk have before pasteurization?

Thanks.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brett,

That's a good question, and I don't think anyone monitors milk. Who in the industry would want the answer?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

OOPS! " liter of cows' milk is permitted to have twenty thousand live bacterial cells"

That should be 20 MILLION (20,000,000) live cells per liter!

AND... up to 750,000,000 somatic cells (we call it "pus") per liter!

BIG difference! All of it is bad news. 59 hormones, 100 allergens,
up to 52 residual antibiotics, herbicides, pesticides, blood, feces,
virus, dioxins, iodine, and perhaps even some good old "strontium 90"
that was in the news so much during the cold war with Russia.

Nice all around toxic mess... properly termed a "Deadly Poison"!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and consumer/cancer victim


Name: Rob Williams
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: Kansas
Time: 1999-07-12 04:20:04
Comments: In order to make up our own minds about things, rather than having others choose our opinions for us, it's necessary to be exposed to a variety of opinions and information. I can't say I'm surprised that the dairy industry is shying away from an open debate on TV or elsewhere. Pure gold does not fear the smelter. I don't know how much it's beyond the scope of this site, but there are some pretty serious animal rights issues involved with the way dairy cattle are treated in this society also, but there are other sites for that such as peta-online.org. I wonder if I might be able to guess what thoughts passed through Robert Cohen's mind recently when that class-action lawsuit was won against the tobacco industry? The implications I'm seeing here probably won't ripen for a while, since the health effects of tobacco are so much more well known, but eventually a similar situation might be able to develop.

Name: Stephanie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Alabama
Time: 1999-07-12 00:43:30
Comments: To whom it may concern: I respect your enthusiasm for the health and well-being of the general public. However, I do not feel that Joshua Jackson's ad for the milk campaign promotes statutory rape. The television series "Dawson's Creek" dealt with this issue during the first season. I am sure the producers of this show dealt with many critics; however, being a teenager myself, I do not feel the show promoted teacher/student sexual relationships. The show was meant for entertainment purposes. I am certain that no one that has seen the television show or the milk ad were influenced into beginning a sexual relationship with someone that could be viewed as statutory rape. In my opinion, the people at "not milk" are simply trying to bring more viewers to the not milk website. Please stop using this battle for merely a publicity stunt. I am sure that no one who saw this ad felt compelled to have it banned, except the people at "got milk", who feel that any dairy product is worthy of slander. Thank you for your time.

Name: Madison
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: New York
Time: 1999-07-09 12:29:04
Comments: Web site pretty well laid out (except for a few broken links). But VERY informative. I didn't see any information linking adolescent ACNE and milk (something which I figured out for myself a long time ago). I can't say I've gone cold turkey, but I've been at about a cup every couple of weeks for about two years now, and I have totally clear skin. Keep up the work. (I've seen some clever ads in NY by the way about the dangers of MILK and children) was that you guys? Kool anyway.

Name: Dr. charles a. hoinowski
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: annandale nj
Time: 1999-07-09 10:05:54
Comments: thanx 4 u're work

Name: Radhika
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Madison, WI
Time: 1999-07-08 20:58:19
Comments: I understand that the purpose of this website is to discourage people from drinking milk for health reasons. I can completely appreciate the effort to put facts about this issue on the internet and to voice your own opinions on it, because NotMilk obviously feels very strongly. However, the attempt to demonize the dairy industry and blame them not just of poisoning our children but of condoning, of all things, statutory rape, is unconvincing and ridiculous. Is this a health issue or a personal grudge against the dairy industry? You insist on calling people "children" who believe that the Joshua Jackson advertisement is appropriate, but it's NotMilk that is acting childish. If you want to be vegans, go ahead. If you want to spread information about veganism, great. But accusing the Got Milk ads of corrupting our society? I think you need a reality check.

Name: Melissa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-07-08 03:47:12
Comments: I do uderstand that a student teacher relationship should be nothing more than what it is in the class room. But baning the Joshua Jackson milk ad is not going to stop it from hapening. By baning just one ad your not going to stop the wrong in this world. By doing it you would just leave people such as myself upset and unhappy. I have watched Dawson's Creek from the very first episode to this day. The show and it's actors/actreses have never said that what they do on the show is right. To add another point the ad never says anything about a student teacher relationship. The ad does say things about impressing an older woman. In real life we all try and impress older people wether it be a man or a woman even a teacher but never does Joshua Jackson or Milk for that matter say anything about sopporting the stoy line of last season on Dawson's Creek.( the Pacy Temara relationship) I just hope you realize the stupidity of this and if I (a 14 year old freshman can see it) I hope you can too. Thank you for your time!

Name: Liam S. Suil
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button
From: Buffalo,New York
Time: 1999-07-07 06:50:26
Comments: My daughter has had diabetes(IDDM) for some time.In looking for a cause and a possible cure I came across your web sight.I'll hense forth avoid the beverage of bovine milk as she will also.We'll let you know the results after a year..What I'd like to know is if genetically altered cows that can produce Human milk or if any mamal milk can be had and used in place of cows milk without the negative side affects?

Milk is milk is milk is MILK! Mother nature tailored each
of the over 4000 mammal milks for the needs of each newborn.
Milk was meant to be an "emergency nutritional starter pack",
and that is why mother nature, in her millions of years of
trial and error... came up with this system that has its own
natural and normal TERMINATION period.

Of the 59 bioactive hormones, 100 allergens, concentrated
residual antibiotics, herbicides, pesticides, virus, blood,
feces and more... what do they think is necessary and healthy
for any human? Perhaps it is the up to 20,000,000 LIVE bacteria,
and up to 750,000,000 somatic cells (pus) that the FDA allows as
maximums PER LITER. Oh, and remember the fat and cholesterol.

Obviously, none of that is healthy or nutritional.

Most critters get weaned from their mothers at an early age. Most
HUMANS were weaned by their mothers at an early age. Why, then,
are human nursing from cow's for most of their shortened lives?

Milk? Think obesity (40% of Americans and rising), heart disease,
cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis, behavioral problems, digestive and
bowel problems, asthma, allergies, zits and more.

The question of the century is: Got milk? If so... WHY??

Regards... Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim.


Name: J. CHanges
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: USA
Time: 1999-07-07 00:57:29
Comments: I have just read several entries from your guestbook. Stunned does not justify this feeling that I have. I hope and I pray that these people surely do not know or understand what they are talking about when they think YOU GUYS are the BAD GUYS!!! Give me a break! Does ANYONE have any morals anymore? How bout just a twinge of a conscience? Maybe I don't get out enough to realise how far, far down this world has gone. Rape in any form is wrong. Drugs are wrong. Chemicals are wrong. Why do people knowingly want to hurt themselves? Good luck notmilk. The way this world is heading...you're going to need it. I wish you the best.

Name: Christine O'Brien
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tampa, FL
Time: 1999-07-06 21:54:14
Comments: Thank you, thank you, thank you for such an informative, impressive site. It just reafirms what I know, veganism is beautiful and ignorance is its only enemy.

Name: Min
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-07-06 13:12:23
Comments: Below is part of an artical which originally appeared in the October 1995 FDA Consumer. The last sentance of the fourth paragraph is one to note.

More People Trying Vegetarian Diets by Dixie Farley

"Perceiving plant foods as beneficial because they are high in dietary fiber and, generally, lower in saturated fat than animal foods, many people turn to vegetarian diets.

Grain products, for instance, form the base of the U.S. Department of Agriculture and Department of Health and Human Services' Food Guide Pyramid, which recommends 6 to 11 daily servings of bread, cereal, rice, and pasta. Daily intakes advised for other foods are: 3 to 5 servings of vegetables; 2 to 4 servings of fruits; 2 to 3 servings of milk, yogurt and cheese; and 2 to 3 servings of meat, poultry, fish, dry beans, eggs, and nuts. The guide advises using fats, oils and sweets sparingly.

And, who hasn't seen signs in their grocer's produce section urging consumers to eat "5 a day for better health"? This slogan reflects a major government-industry campaign to help people eat more fruits and vegetables as part of a high-fiber, low-fat diet that emphasizes variety.

The campaign is consistent with the USDA-DHHS Dietary Guidelines for Americans, which states, "Most Americans of all ages eat fewer than the recommended number of servings of grain products, vegetables, and fruits, even though consumption of these foods is associated with a substantially lower risk for many chronic diseases, including certain types of cancer" Also noted: "Most vegetarians eat milk products and eggs, and as a group, these lacto-ovo-vegetarians enjoy excellent health."

But health benefits are not the only reason vegetarian diets attract followers.

Certain people, such as Seventh-day Adventists, choose a vegetarian diet because of religious beliefs. Others give up meat because they feel eating animals is unethical. Some believe it's a better use of the Earth's resources to eat low on the food chain--that is, to eat plant foods, rather than the animals that eat the plant foods. And many people eat plant foods simply because they are less expensive than animal foods.

It's wise to take precautions, however, when adopting a diet that entirely excludes animal flesh and dairy products, called a vegan diet. (See "Vegetarian Varieties.")

"The more you restrict your diet, the more difficult it is to get the nutrients you need," says John Vanderveen, Ph.D., director of the Food and Drug Administration's Office of Plant and Dairy Foods and Beverages. "To be healthful, vegetarian diets require very careful, proper planning. Nutrition counseling can help you get started on a diet that is nutritionally adequate."

If appropriately planned, vegan diets, though restrictive, can provide adequate nutrition even for children, according to the American Dietetic Association and the Institute of Food Technologists."

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Min,

Whatever your may be, it is critically important that your foods contain essential amino acids (the nine aminos not manufactured in your liver), as well as live vitamins and enzymes.

There are many vegetarians and vegans who eat nothing but "junk food," just as many meat eaters do.

It is rare that I find a parent who can tell me that his or her children are eating more than one portion of fruit each day. Is this the fault of the child, or the parent who does the food shopping and preparation?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jean
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-07-06 09:45:17
Comments: Well I do understand the point you are trying, and I do mean trying, to make about the Joshua Jackson milk ad, but I have to disagree with you. The ad is selling milk, and as all of the other celebrity ads do they made reference to what the celebrity, or the character they portray is most known for. I agree that teachers seducing students is a bad thing anyone would. But people need to stop blaming the media for the evils of the world. It is up to parents to educate their children, and teach them the difference between right and wrong. It is a proven fact that most people that find themselves in these kinds of situations were abused in some way prior to them.

All of this doesn't really matter though, because the truth is your group is only making such a big deal about this for publicity. But no matter how much you gripe and complain about all of this it is not really going to make a difference. The world will still spin, people will still drink milk, teachers and students will continue to have affairs (which in light of the huge violence in schools issue, I would rather the loner boys were sleeping with their teachers rather than out buying guns) and groups like yours will continue to whine.


Name: Lindsey
Website:
Referred by: AngelFire
From: Utah
Time: 1999-07-06 08:48:58
Comments: In my opinion your little crusade to ban Joshua Jackson's milk ad is absolutley ridiculous! Just because some uptight people at "Not Milk" don't like milk they have decided to not let the rest of the population make their own decisions. No one is forcing milk down your throats so why are you doing this to us? You are just trying to get people to stop drinking milk. And it obviously didn't work because after browsing through your site I went downstairs and got myself a glass of milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lindsey,

One day you'll probably become a mom yourself, and pour milk down the throat of your helpless baby just as your mom did to you.

All your life you've been hearing the GOTMILK messages. Here, drink this, it's good for you.

What part of this site got you in the mood for your nightly dose? Was is the 750 million pus cells per liter, the 59 different hormones in every sip, or the fact that eighty percent of milk protein is casein, a tenacious glue?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: MARGUERITE MILLER
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sayville, Long Island. NY, USA
Time: 1999-07-06 01:52:55
Comments: I really enjoyed your site. It was very informative. I have been a vegetarian for almost eight years now, but I have only eliminated dairy from my diet about two months ago. I can't begin to describe how much better I feel and how much more energy I have. I have no children as of yet, but we are beginning to discuss having them. I would like find out more about raising vegan children, both health wise and social issues. If anyone has any personal experiences they can share or recommendations for reading, please e-mail them to me. Thank you very much. -Marguerite

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Marguerite,

I subscribe to a chat group called: Vegetarian Parents. For subscription information contact:

Veg-Parent@envirolink.org

Here is an interesting post I received today:

Vegan Children: Healthy and Happy

Most people have been taught that children must eat animal flesh and dairy products to grow up strong and healthy. The truth is that children raised as vegans, who consume no animal products, including meat, eggs, and dairy, can derive all the nutrients essential for optimum growth from plant-based sources. Children not only don't need animal products, they're much better off without them.

Consider this: Many children raised on the "traditional" American diet of cholesterol- and saturated fat-laden hamburgers, hot dogs, and pizza are already showing symptoms of heart disease -- the number one killer of adults -- by the time they reach first grade. One epidemiological study found significant levels of cholesterol and fat in the arteries of most children under the age of five.(1) Children raised as vegans can be protected from this condition. They are less likely to suffer from childhood illnesses such as asthma, iron-deficiency anemia, and diabetes and will be less prone to ear infections and colic.(2)

A vegan diet has other benefits, too. E. coli, the deadly bacteria that killed four children and sickened more than 600 people in Washington state in 1993, was traced to tainted meat in a fast food restaurant. According to the Centers for Disease Control, there are more than 20,000 E. coli infections from meat every year in the United States (3). A vegan diet protects children from the pesticides, hormones, and antibiotics that are fed to animals in huge amounts and concentrate in animals' fatty tissue and milk.(4)

Nutrition in Vegan Diets

Nutritionists and physicians have learned that plant products are good sources of protein, iron, calcium, and vitamin D because they can be easily absorbed by the body and don't contain artery-clogging fat.

•Protein--Contrary to popular opinion, the real concern about protein is that we will feed our children too much, not too little. Nutritional biochemist Dr. T. Colin Campbell, author of the ground-breaking China Study, has shown that excess animal protein actually promotes the growth of tumors--and most people on a meat-based diet consume three to 10 times more protein than their bodies need!(5)

Children can get all the protein their bodies need from whole grains in the form of oats, brown rice, and pasta; from nuts and seeds, including spreads such as tahini and peanut butter; and legumes, including tofu, lentils, and beans.(6)

•Iron--Few parents know that some babies' intestines bleed after drinking cow's milk. This increases their risk of developing iron-deficiency anemia since the blood they're losing contains iron.(7) Breast-fed infants under the age of one year get sufficient iron from mother's milk (and are less prone to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome). Formula-fed babies should be fed a soy-based formula with added iron to minimize the risk of intestinal bleeding. Iron-rich foods such as raisins, almonds, dried apricots, blackstrap molasses and fortified grain cereals will meet the needs of toddlers and children 12 months and older. Vitamin C helps the body absorb iron, so foods rich in both, such as green, leafy vegetables are particularly valuable.(8)

•Calcium--Drinking cow's milk is one of the least effective ways to strengthen bones. Too much protein, such as the animal protein fed to children in dairy products, actually causes the body to lose calcium.(9) In countries where calcium intake is low but where protein intake is also very low, osteoporosis is almost non-existent.(10)

Cornbread, broccoli, kale, tofu, dried figs, tahini, great northern beans, and fortified orange juice and soy milk are all excellent sources of calcium. As with iron, vitamin C will help your child's system absorb calcium efficiently. (11)

•Vitamin D--This is not really a "vitamin" but a hormone our bodies manufacture when our skin is exposed to sunlight. Cow's milk does not naturally contain vitamin D; it's added later. Vitamin D-enriched soy milk provides this nutrient without the added animal fat. A child who spends as little as 15 minutes a day playing in the sunshine, with arms and face exposed, will get sufficient vitamin D.(12)

•Vitamin B-12--This essential vitamin once occurred naturally on the surfaces of potatoes, beets, and other root vegetables, but the move away from natural fertilizers has caused it to disappear from our soil. Any commercially available multivitamin will assure adequate B-12 for your child. B-12 is also found in nutritional yeast (not to be confused with brewer's or active dry yeast) and many fortified cereals. (13)

Dangers of Dairy Products

Children do not need dairy products to grow up strong and healthy. The director of pediatrics at Johns Hopkins University, Dr. Frank Oski, says, "There's no reason to drink cow's milk at any time. It was designed for calves, it was not designed for humans, and we should all stop drinking it today, this afternoon."(14) Dr. Benjamin Spock agrees that although milk is the ideal food for baby cows, it can be dangerous for human infants: "I want to pass the word to parents that cow's milk . . . has definite faults for some babies. It causes allergies, indigestion, and contributes to some cases of childhood diabetes."(15)

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that infants under one year of age not be fed whole cow's milk. Dairy products are the leading cause of food allergies. In addition, more than two-thirds of Native Americans and people from Asian and Mexican ancestry and as many as 15 percent of Caucasians are lactose intolerant and suffer symptoms such as bloating, gas, cramps, vomiting, headaches, rashes, or asthma.(16) Many people become lactose intolerant after age four. For these people, animal proteins seep into the immune system and can result in chronic runny noses, sore throats, hoarseness, bronchitis, and recurring ear infections.(17)

Milk is suspected of triggering juvenile diabetes, a disease that causes blindness and other serious effects.(18) Some children's bodies see cow's milk protein as a foreign substance and produce high levels of antibodies to fend off this "invader." These antibodies also destroy the cells which produce insulin in the pancreas, leading to diabetes.

An estimated 20 percent of U.S. dairy cows are infected with leukemia viruses that are resistant to killing by pasteurization.(19) These viruses have been found in supermarket supplies of milk and dairy products. It may not be merely coincidence that the highest rates of leukemia are found in children ages 3-13, who consume the most dairy products.(20)

Resources

•Pregnancy, Children, and the Vegan Diet by Michael Klaper, M.D. (Gentle World, Inc., P.O. Box U, Paia, Maui, HI 96779, 1994)

•The Vegetarian Mother and Baby Book by Ross Elliot (Pantheon Books, 1986)

•Vegetarian Baby (McBooks Press, 1984) and Vegetarian Children (McBooks Press, 1987) by Sharon Yntema

•The Compassionate Cook by PETA and Ingrid Newkirk (Warner, 1993)

•Vegetarian Times magazine (4 High Ridge Park, Stamford, CT 06905)

•Vegetarian Journal (P.O. Box 1463, Baltimore, MD 21204)

•Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), 5100 Wisconsin Ave., NW, Suite 404, Washington, DC 20015; 202-686-2210

•La Leche League, 1-800-LA LECHE

References

1.Akman, D., et al. "Heart Disease in a Total Population of Children: The Bogalusa Heart Study," Southern Medical Journal, Oct. 1982, 75(10), pp. 1177-81, and G.S. Berenson, et al., "Cardiovascular Risk Factors in Children. Should They Concern the Pediatrician?" American Journal of Diseases of Children, Sep. 1982, 136(9), pp. 855-62. 2.Klaper, Michael, M.D., Pregnancy, Children, and the Vegan Diet, 1994 edition, pp. 2-3, 36, and Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, news release: "Top Doctors Warn: Milk Can Cause Health Problems," September 29, 1992. 3."A Disease That's a Bite Away," Washington Post, February 13, 1994. 4.Klaper, Michael, M.D., Pregnancy, Children, and the Vegan Diet, 1994 edition, p. 2. 5."Want Long Life? Lay Off Meat," Tucson Citizen, October 4, 1991. 6.Klaper, op.cit., pp. 12-14. 7."Doctor Spock Adds Clout to Warnings About Cow's Milk," Wall Street Journal, September 30, 1992. 8.Klaper, op.cit., pp. 17-18. 9.Ibid., pp. 15-16. 10."Don't Believe Everything Dairy Industry Tells You," San Luis Obispo Telegram-Tribune, February 10, 1993. 11.Klaper, op.cit., pp. 15-16. 12.Klaper, ibid., p. 58. 13.Klaper, ibid. 14."Dr. Spock Joins Milk's Detractors," Washington Post, September 30, 1992. 15.Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, news release: "Top Doctors Warn: Milk Can Cause Health Problems," September 29, 1992. 16."Don't Believe Everything Dairy Industry Tells You," op. cit. 17.Ibid. 18."Don't Drink Milk?," Washington Post, February 9, 1993. 19.Klaper, op.cit., p. 42. 20."Vegan From the Cradle: A Medical Doctor Explains Why an Animal-Free Diet for Babies Is His First Choice," Vegetarian Times, Sept. 1987.

To Receive a FREE Vegetarian Pack, e-mail your request along with your name and mailing address to: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

Peta2@norfolk.infi.net

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jessica
Website:
Referred by: AngelFire
From: Arizona
Time: 1999-07-06 01:34:12
Comments: I would like to say, that banning Josh's milk ad is not only wrong, it's stupid. I mean you guys are just looking for a reason to ban it because he is so cute. I know for a fact it has nothing to do with rape. It was part of the show last season. Don't you get that? Jessica

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jessica,

We get it.

Whether you are in sixth grade, are twelve years old and have a crush on your teacher, or in tenth grade, and have lust-filled emotions, your teacher should know better.

Teachers having sex with their students should be punished. Even if both parties agree to have sex, the act is still against the law.

Dawson's Creek appropriately PUNISHED Miss Jacobs, Josh's English teacher. She knew that what she did was wrong and resigned.

Josh is not the guilty party here.

The DAIRY INDUSTRY is promoting statutory rape by referring to that television incident.

Not only do they refer to it, but the have your "Josh" gloating about it.

We get it, and we are not amused.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lexie Clark, Lisa Bersani, Katie Fischer (tour guides)
Website: The Oregon Legislature
Referred by: AOL
From: Salem, Oregon
Time: 1999-07-06 00:24:51
Comments: It was so interesting to find your web site! Were you aware that Oregon's State Beverage is Milk? May be you should contact one of our legislatures and make them aware to the dangers of milk. We would not want the majority of Oregon's people to die from milk!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Hello, Lexie, Lisa, Katie and everybody else from the "Beaver State." I just consulted my almanac and learned that your state motto is:

"She flys with her own wings."

Does that means that you ladies are doing a lot of chirping and buzzing around, having lots of interesting things to do? It's nice to know that your legislature conducts important business like naming an official state drink. In 1843, the first white settlers came to oregon and found 100 different Native American tribes. Any record of how many were drinking cow's milk?

Author Virgil Hulse is from Oregon. He was a state milk inspector for 50 years, serving the public by keeping the milk safe.

Virgil, author of the best selling book, "Mad Cows and Milkgate," recently helped Oprah successfully defend and win the much-publicized cattleman's suit.

All Americans owe a debt of gratitude to Dr. Hulse. Without his brilliant work, we might not have known how many different types of surprises are routinely found in your state drink.

Let's see...there's bovine leukemia virus, bovine immunodeficiency virus, salmonella, E. coli, camphlobactor, lysteria, strep, staph, mycobacterium paratuberculosis, yersinia, and possibly prions.

Add to that the pus, allergenic proteins, powerful growth hormones, fat, cholesterol, toxic metals, pesticides, antibiotics and dioxins, and you've got a state drink that is "for the birds!"

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alessandra
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Italy
Time: 1999-07-05 22:47:46
Comments: Banning Josh Jackson Milk Ad was a stupid and useless thing to do. People who disliked it are old, short-sighted and definetly care too much about little and non-important things as this is. If you really want to do something for yourself and your environment (and this is something "NotMilk" is trying to do, I guess), fight more serious battles. Oh, and by the way, I think "NotMilk" is total crap and should be deleted from the web.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Bonjourno, Alessandra! Welcome!!! I see that you are from Italy.

Doesn't the Supreme Pontiff reside in Italia? We tried to get the Pope to condemn the milk ad, but could not get a quote from him.

There are, however, 19 Archbishops in America, and His Eminence, John Cardinal O'Connor was furious in his condemnation of the Joshua Jackson ad.

Not only is the promotion of statutory rape a danger to society, by eroding its values, but the promotion of milk and dairy products is a message that severely damages the health of its users.

The dairy industry is guilty on two counts. They will one day have to answer for these REVELATIONS.

So far as I am concerned, those who betray the health and morals of young children can burn in hell.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Anna
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 1999-07-05 09:41:56
Comments: I would like to say that the banning of the Joshua Jackson milk ad would lead to nothing except sales going down ... believe it or not. It may seem silly to think that people would actually drink milk because of him or any other celebrity but it is the truth. If it wasn't the truth then why would celebrities be in milk ads? So why let your sales drop by this harmless ad? I do not feel that what is written in the ad has any influence on people, teens in particular, however, Joshua Jackson is setting a wonderful example just by sitting there and sporting that cute milk mustache smile. So I don't see anything good being accomplised by banning the ad. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely AnnaGS27@Yahoo.com

Name: Jamie
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Niagara Falls
Time: 1999-07-05 01:13:42
Comments: All I want to know is how Joshua Jackson's "Got Milk?" Ad enduces rape. If anyone has the answer please feel free to e-mail me and tell me the answer. Thanks, Jamie

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jamie,

Joshua Jackson's television character was seduced by his high school teacher. When teachers have sex with their students, that is called statutory rape, even if both parties consent.

Television recognized that the act was improper, and the teacher resigned.

The dairy industry (wink/wink) delighted in taking advantage of the well-publicized television episode and had Jackson extol the virtues of milk. Jackson's words were:

"Especially if you want to impress, let's say, an older woman."

What part of statutory rape laws are you and others having trouble understanding, Jamie?

When predatory adults lure minor children into sexual relationships, they should not pass go and they should not collect $200.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jason Samilski
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Burlington, Ontario
Time: 1999-07-05 00:57:49
Comments: Hello everyone!

I am in the midst of starting a program called EAT THIS! The program talks to secondary school students about how foods choices effect our health, the environment, and animals; and presents the issues in a fun, interactive, humerous fashion. The program should be launching its first phase in September which involves travelling around Ontario, Canada presenting. In phase two which will start September of 2000, we will be going on a Canadian tour with the program.

While we travel, we will also be networking for a national youth organization which aims to promote plant based lifestyles through education.

We are working on an intensive media promotion aspect which we feel will be useful to our cause.

If anyone is interested in affiliating their group with EAT THIS! or if anyone is interested in helping out/having us come to a school. Please e-mail me.

In good health,

Jason Samilski EAT THIS! Program Director jsamilski@hotmail.com

Name: Tabitha Burston
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Sarasota
Time: 1999-07-04 04:18:25
Comments: I think you guys shouldint make such a big deal about so what he said on there you guys didn't like your just a buch of old people who wouldn't understand any way so just leave it alone because Joshua Jackson is hot!!!!!!!!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Tabitha,

The judges appreciate your enthusiasm. Despite your inability to spell or properly conjugate your verbs, we still have decided to give you ten points for correctly signing your name.

Take heart, Tabs...other visitors from your camp have achieved lower test scores..

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: kevin x
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: massachusetts
Time: 1999-07-03 02:30:20
Comments: thank you for the message.

Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George,B.C.
Time: 1999-07-03 01:43:55
Comments: Behold the power of CHEESE! *Concentrated amounts of survivable hormones and proteins causing cancer, diabetes, Crohn's, CJD (human mad cow disease) among other illnesses. Behold the power indeed! *1 pound cheese = 10 pounds milk

Name: Natalie
Website: Natalie's Joshua Jackson site
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-07-03 00:20:15
Comments: What's your problem with Joshua Jackson's milk ad? There is more sex and drug promotion on the news and in movies than in this ad! If people are too, well, stupid and ignorant to change their opinions on a subject just by a few lines on an ad JUST about milk, then...what kind of a society is this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Natalie,

You wrote that there's sex and drug promotion in the news and in movies. Would you give me one example of any movie or television show that ever promoted statutory rape?

Dawson's Creek did not promote statutory rape.

The dairy industry ad does!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Stacie
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From:
Time: 1999-07-02 22:14:52
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NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Stacie,

Please forgive me. I thought that supporters of this dairy industry ad were mindless dingbats with nothing important to say. You've demonstrated how wrong I was.

Regards,

The NOTMILKAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pa
Time: 1999-07-02 19:27:08
Comments: A freshman at Eagle Rock Junior High won first prize at the Greater Idaho Falls Science Fair, April 26. He was attempting to show how conditioned we have become to alarmists practicing junk science and spreading fear of everything in our environment. In his project he urged people to sign a petition demanding strict control or total elimination of the chemical "dihydrogen monoxide." And for plenty of good reasons, since: 1. it can cause excessive sweating and vomiting 2. it is a major component in acid rain 3. it can cause severe burns in its gaseous state 4. accidental inhalation can kill you 5. it contributes to erosion 6. it decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes 7. it has been found in tumors of terminal cancer patients He asked 50 people if they supported a ban of the chemical. Forty-three said yes, six were undecided, and only one knew that the chemical was water. The title of his prize winning project was, "How Gullible Are We?" He feels the conclusion is obvious.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

That "JOKE" has been making its way around the INTERNET for three years. What a tribute to the greater Idaho Falls school district that they would award first prize for such a plagarized endeavor.

What scientific observation or discovery won second prize? Did a senior fill a balloon with helium and note that it was lighter than air, or prehaps a junior flew a kite in an electrical storm and discovered a strange new power source?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Paul Morris
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
Time: 1999-07-02 10:07:44
Comments: Wow this is great stuff. It's about time the public was told the truth! Keep up the great job you are doing. May God bless you in these endeavors. May every child be blessed with parents smart enough to read and understand what you are talking about. The world needs more people like you who are willing to dedicate their lives to such a worth cause.

Name: Bonnie
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 1999-07-02 09:36:59
Comments: Hello Mr Cohen, just wanted to pass this on, as I know you already know of this. Watching my FAV - Foodtv - saw the www.ILovecheese.com. So as an interested person, I go to look. All about the cheese, the favorite of the month, not really what is has in it. Well, I wondered. So I decided to e-mail them, and I said "Behold the Power of cheese", well " Behold the power of rBGH. Just a concerned female."

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Bonnie,

I missed a golden opportunity to comment on the new dairy marketing campaign:

"BEHOLD, THE POWER OF CHEESE."

Thanks for making me laugh!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Julie Lilly
Website: Julie's Little Web
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ca Pismo Beach
Time: 1999-07-02 09:09:12
Comments: So glad to see this site. Thanks sooooooo much... I totaly agree and have a web site to also educate people. Thanks julie

Name: June Cleeland
Website: SEX, SOY MILK & THE PSYCHIC
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-07-02 08:52:54
Comments: I was just reading an ad in my local newspaper placed by a 'CHILDREN'S HOMEOPATH'. The lady writes " I can help with recurrent colds, ear infections, allergies, asthma, skin problems, fatigue and ADD. Ring Now!". Possibly I should set myself up in a similar business and when clients arrive I just hand them a leaflet which says 'GET YOUR CHILDREN OFF ALL DAIRY' - Yup.....I'm wasted as a Clairvoyant.......

Name: William Grant
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Newport News, VA
Time: 1999-07-02 07:20:52
Comments: Dear Notmilkman: You and your followers would probably be interested to learn that prostate cancer has joined the list of chronic diseases strongly linked to the non-fat portion of milk. The leading hypothesis is that the calcium reduces the amount of circulating vitamin D, which has been shown to fight prostate cancer. Papers on the topic can be found at MedLine (PubMed) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ Search under milk prostate cancer, also milk heart disease for another disease linked to milk, lactose in this case. Keep up the good work.

Name: Noel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1999-07-02 02:44:38
Comments: Robert, My, Guestbook comment #1213 (Andie) sure doesn't speak too well for the positive correlation of milk consumption and mental acuity... Something to ponder. Noel

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Noel,

Dr. Robert Cade's publications in the Journal of Autism identify a milk hormone, casomorphin as a cause of Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD).

Perhaps those who urge me to "get a life" like Andie might spend some time here and review the real science. It's not too late!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: SmithwithY
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From:
Time: 1999-07-02 02:24:14
Comments: While I am generally a very healthy person, I chose to elminate dairy products a few years ago. I've also been a vegetarian for several years. I rarely even have a cold now and generally feel healthy with lots of energy most of the time. I learned that the excess protein in milk took calcium from my bones while it was being processes by my kidneys. The decision was an easy one to get off dairy products. I read labels looking for casein and avoid them like the plague.

Name: Kerry Hurley
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-07-02 00:03:39
Comments: Dear Mr Cohen- You claimed that one of the causes of poor skin condition is milk consumption. That's an interesting "fact." I foudn it so intreging, I took your information to three local dermatologists who specialize in acne and acne prevention. Their comments range from "That's bull!" to "His evidence is incorrect." In a nutshell, here is their info. (Keep in mind that all three of them are M.D's and alumnae from reputible unaversities.) Poor skin is not related to food consumptions. Ingesting oily foods, greasy foods, or unhealthy foods will not make you breakout. Internally digesting pus does not make your skin condition worsen. Breakouts are related to dirt or other foreign material that becomes imbedded in pores. Your skin then reacts by sending up oils to flush out the object. If the oil cannot remove the dirt, then an infection under the skin builds and pus is your body's second way of expelling the infection. Mr. Cohen, please consult with an MD before giving advice as you did.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kerry,

My hat is off to you. In one day, you were able to personally visit and consult with three dermatoligists and get their expert opinions to share with us.

Not only are Dr. Moe, Curly and Larry, M.D.s, but they are, in your words, "alumnae from reputible unaversities."

It will please a lot of teens to know that zits occur because dirt gets lodged in their pores. Now, thanks to your three associates, all teens have to do is wash their faces with soap and water and their zits will disappear. Now, why didn't I think of that?

This makes sense. Little kids don't get zits 'cause their parents make 'em wash their faces. Adults do not get zits because they know better, sometimes washing their faces three or more times each day.

These three dermatologists of yours might be nominated for a Nobel Prize. Soap and water? We'll call it:

"The all-wet hype-o-thesis."

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: andie carter
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: dc
Time: 1999-07-01 08:43:30
Comments: this also has to do with the dawson's creek add. first the add has been out for all most a year. and also my 5 year old nice thought it was funny. she thought it ment he wanted older people to be his friends. and i bet you when kids read it the won't even think that it has any thing to do with it being rape. i thought it was so funny that some one in the right mind would even think that is what the milk people are tring to do. please get a life!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Andie,

It warms my heart to know that your five-year-old niece can have intellectual discussions with her aunt. What is her opinion of total global thermo-nuclear disarmament?

My nine-year-old daughter fully understands the ad in question. Seems that kids are learning their sexual lessons a bit early these days, and their bodies display a sexual maturity that is troubling.

Eighty percent of African-American nine-year-old females now have breast development. The same phenomena is seen in sixty percent of Latinos and 40 percent of caucasians.

GOT MILK? GOT HORMONES. Got cheese? Got concentrated hormones.

Got more milk pustache ads? Brainwash more kids into an unhealthy lifestyle.

The newest milk industry ad campaign?

BEHOLD: THE POWER OF CHEESE. Indeed!

Regards,

The MOTMILKMAN


Name: jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Covington, VA
Time: 1999-07-01 07:55:27
Comments: ohhh...so the dairy industry is making me think that way? Well, for your information, I don't even drink Milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Imagine that? Like the scarecrow in Oz, seems like you've got a brain!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1999-07-01 02:00:57
Comments: Regarding all this Dawson's Creek/Dairy Industry stuff, here's a better idea as part of our overall NOTMILK health regimen: Blow up the TV! -----------

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Noel,

Nothing wrong with your television set.

It's the creatures who twist plots and create their own story lines that we have reason to protest.

Dawson's Creek punished the teacher who committed statutory rape. It's the dairy industry public relations firm (BSMG) who took it all very lightly, exploiting the situation and Joshua Jackson in the process. They sent a message to all of the teens who are urged to write to this guestbook. Read the GUESTBOOK letters written previous to yours. The authors are Jennifer, Brittany, Brandi, Sarah, Maria, Kerry, Lin and Kimberly. Do you see an obvious patern here, Noel?

This is all part of the not-so clever GOTMILK campaign.

Their website is urging teens to write to this guestbook. However, the gutless wonders refuse to debate me on national television.

A BIG SECRET

Noel, don't tell anybody, but each person leaving a message on this guestbook also leaves a unique electronic signature. I know the computer terminal, operating system, etc. These terminals are like fingerprints and no two are alike.

Jennifer, Brittany and Kimberly's posts were all made from the same computer and internet account. Jennifer is from Florida, Brittany is from Virginia, and Brandi is from California.

GOT INTEGRITY?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Covington, VA
Time: 1999-07-01 00:44:38
Comments: I strongly disagree with your belief that the "Got Milk?" advertisement feature Joshua Jackson from Dawson's Creek promotes statutory rape. This ad was meant to be a light-hearted joke that only Dawson's Creek viewers could understand.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jennifer,

EXACTLY! The message was clear, Jen. When I was going into college, women had a bit more liberated attitude towards sexual exploitation. However, how can you help being brainwashed. $Millions of dairy industry dollars have reached their mark. You are living proof.

If you watch Dawson's Creek, you would realize that the plot of the show was in no way trying to promote statutory rape.

I agree! However, the dairy industry TWISTED the plot and made statutory rape something to laugh about. It's no joke, Jennifer.

The plots realistically portrays young people's life in America. Sadly, that does include statutory rape. This shows displays the facts; it doesn't promote unacceptable behavior. This meant to be viewed by teen and adult viewers. It is the parent's responsibility to teach their child/children values, not the media. Today's society is more liberal and open about issues. If you cannot accept this, do not watch the show or subscribe to magazines. Maybe this world would be a better place if people would strive toward world peace, dimishing poverty, or improving education instead of petty situations. I may only be 17, but I am mature enough to know right from wrong. I also know better than to complain about insignificant issues.

The DAIRY INDUSTRY lies are not insignificant. They send you unhelathy messages, Jennifer. Nations with the highest rates of milk consumption have the highest rates of osteoporosis, heart disease, diabetes, asthma and breast cancer. Their method is to use sex to lure you into using their unhealthy product.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Brittany
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: VA
Time: 1999-06-30 21:25:27
Comments: Okay. i, like many other people who write in this guestbook, would like to voice my opinion on the Josh Jackson milk ad. i have been a fan of Dawson's Creek, as well as of Josh Jackson, for a long time. Do you honestly think that kids are encouraged to have affairs with their teachers by one little ad? It was meant to be funny!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brittany,

I missed the punchline.

Is it Daisy Feuetes' milk ad in which Mz. sex appeal says:

"Girls, let's talk about the 'F' word. I do not find statutory rape funny, Brittany. Joshua Jackson clearly promotes statutory rape. The boys and girls at BSMG are hilarious! they write brilliant ads and influence our culture, or lack of it, in the process. Perhaps I just have no sense of humor.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Brandi vad
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ca
Time: 1999-06-30 19:35:19
Comments: hello-I think that Joshua Jackson's Got Milk ad is just fine. I mean, if you look at some of the other Milk adds...DENNIS RODMAN, and say that Joshua Jackson is not a good influence, then you must have troubles. Yeah, Like Dennis Rodman is really a good person to look up to. It is mainly teens that look at the Milk adds and collect them anyways so it is really no big deal. You shouldn't make such a big deal. What are you really going to do about it? Nothing. You can't go around to peoples house and take all their Milk adds off their room. So if you are going to get pissed off at the Joshua Jackson one, you should look a little harder at the other ones, I bet you will find eeros. Dennis Rodman, he has a tattoo around his stomach. OH what a good influence you are to me! Plus there are just a little more people who enjoy the Got Milk adds so you are just a little out numbered there. See....If you don't like them, then who cares? You are just one out of how many? This world is too liberal, and it is because of people like you!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brandi,

Am I being set up here? Is this a "dumb blonde" joke? You're calling me too liberal because I criticize an industry which promotes milk consumption by using sex?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sarah Millar
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Canada
Time: 1999-06-30 07:28:44
Comments: I was checking my e-mail when I recieved one that said you did not approve of Josh's milk ad. Before surfing to your page to voice my opinion, I did the research and read the article on why it is a bad milk ad. My opinion, however, stayed the same. I am nearly seventeen years old. I have watched Dawson's Creek since it began up here in Canada and I have also been drinking milk all my life. I see nothing wrong with Josh's ad, it made me laugh. One top of that I can relate to his character on Dawson's Creek more than any other. It was because of his "illicit" affair with his teacher that I began watching. No, I didn't have an affair with a teacher of mine, but I did have a relationship with a much older man. It wasn't because of milk, or Dawson's Creek or the ad (in fact the ad came out after we ended). It happened because he was what I needed at the time and I consented (although legally I am too young to consent to anything). There was nothing wrong with it as far as I am concerned. I am sorry that you cannot take Josh's ad as the joke it was meant to be. All the other ads are jokes or blurbs of who the person is, why should Josh's be any different? This is just my humble opinion, but I thought I'd voice it anyway. Sarah Millar

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sarah,

When I was your age we had a saying: "Never trust anyone over thirty."

As you grow older, you gain wisdom from life's lessons.

Adults pass laws to protect children. Children sometimes do not understand these laws.

It is very easy for an adult to "seduce" a child. Adults who do so are called predators. As children grow older, they gain tools and each tool becomes an additional layer of insulation against those who might "use you" without concern to your spirit or psyche.

I have three daughters and want all of them to have a strong sense of identity, including a happy and healthy life in which they make choices about the things that they do with their own bodies.

As a father, I want their happiness. All adults should share in a desire to protect all children. That is more than just an unwritten rule, Sarah. That's the law.

If a male teacher has sex with his student, and if a female teacher has sex with her student, it's against the law, and it's an act that will invoke fury and demand justice by other adults.

Television appropriately dealt with the incident.

The dairy industry did not.

The milk marketers exert a strong influence upon young children. To make this act an acceptable one, this industry promotes an illegal act and changes the collective psyche of all teens.

I do not Blame Joshua Jackson for this. He is an actor. I do not'blame the writers of Dawson Creek. In their own way, they wrapped up the story and punished the teacher.

The dairy industry gets all of my venom. They should get yours too.

They send an unhealthy message to you, by using sex. Thank you for visiting my page. Now that you are here, read some of the real science. The whymilk and gotmilk messages might be fun, but they are dangerous lies.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: maria
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: pennsylvania
Time: 1999-06-30 05:09:03
Comments: I don't see anything wrong with the ad...you can take it however you want to. It is all in how you interpet the ad. Act like grownups...allready and stop thinking like a raging hormonal 13 year old.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Maria,

You've just ruined my day.

I have two teenagers and they both watch Dawson's Creek and are both Joshua Jackson fans. They also read this column.

They laughed when they read that you are accusing their dad of "thinking like a raging hormonal 13 year old."

Just for the record, Maria, eighty percent of milk protein is CASEIN, the same glue used to hold a label to a bottle of beer and the same glue used to hold together the wood in your furniture.

The FDA allows 750 million pus cells in a quart of milk, so we are amused by Joshua Jackson's milk pustache.

Drink milk and you ingest pus with hormones and glue.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kerry R Hurley
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Virginia
Time: 1999-06-30 04:50:10
Comments: Dear Sir: I would like to take this opportunity to tell you how remiss I feel you were in your defamation of the Joshua Jackson "Got Milk" ad. It is my understanding that the purpose of your organization, "Not Milk," is to educate people about the dangers of drinking milk. It is also my understanding that you hope to reach a younger demographic in the hope of preventing them from doing permanent damage to their bodies. The demographic that you hope to reach with your information regarding milk is the same demographic that views the show "Dawson’s Creek." Sir, did your organization honestly believe that by degrading not only a character of one of the hottest shows on TV, but by slandering the actor as well, that you would accomplish anything toward your demographic? If that was your belief, sir, then you are sadly mistaken. Your argument against the Joshua Jackson ad lacks validity and consistency. You stated that "Joshua Jackson wants to ‘impress older women.’" This sir, is in fact not true. If you want that sentence to be valid, you must revise it to state that "Pacey Witter (the character) wants to ‘impress older women.’" You see, sir, the character on "Dawson’s Creek," didn’t want to impress the older woman but instead found himself quite attracted to her and suddenly caught in a quite illegal liaison. Yes, the incidence was statutory rape. The show handled the issue in a manner that was mature and educational. The teacher left the area and upon her brief one-episode-return in the show’s next season, the two characters discussed the situation and it was admitted that their relationship had been not only illegal, but morally wrong. The writers of "Dawson’s Creek" handled the situation in the best way possible. The fact, sir, is that statutory rape does occur and relationships between teachers and students are happening in our country. While this is not a good thing, it is something that happens and denying it makes the situation worse. The staff at "Dawson’s Creek" maturely addressed a topic that had been diligently avoided by other writers and producers. The illegal relationship between "Tamara Jacobs" and "Pacey Witter" was addressed in a manner that every member of the "Dawson’s Creek" staff should be proud of. Mature and honest discussion of problems makes awareness more effective and debate does not cause the problem to worsen. When you said "Joshua Jackson wants to ‘impress older women.’" You defamed the integrity of a fine actor who was simply supporting the Milk industry. It is quite possible, sir, that Mr. Jackson had no idea what caption would be placed on his picture. It is also possible sir, that the people who wrote the caption found it to be non-offensive. And while you, personally, have something against milk and the milk industry, taking this ad and twisting an innocent caption into a huge debate is simply juvenile, in my opinion. I give you some examples, sir. You came down on Mr. Jackson because he supports the Milk industry by doing a "milkstache ad." Would you, too, come down on the actor who portrayed the Marlboro man for many years just because his company sells cigarettes and cigarettes can cause cancer? There is a Budwieser commercial where Clydesdales play football. Would you suggest that everyone of those horses (or their owners) be punished because they are supporting a company which sells alcoholic beverages which may lead to drunk driving accidents? Would you, Mr. Cohen, ask that all celebrities who have been seen using cell-phones be removed for public eye because cell phones and driving are a dangerous combination? Yes, sir, these examples are quite a stretch. As is, in my opinion, your argument surrounding the Joshua Jackson ad. You have said "The dairy industry promotes two crimes. The first can send an adult to jail." This is not true, sir. The dairy industry promotes no crime in a simple milk ad. What you tend to read into that last sentence is your own business. However, the last sentence in the ad reads: "Especially if you want to impress, let's say, an older woman." Mr. Cohen, this does not promote statutory rape. It doesn’t promote a sexual encounter of any kind. The sentence states that the character wishes to impress someone. Be it with a strong physique or high intelligence, the majority of teenagers wish to impress their elders. The definition of "impress" according to the 1990 edition of the Lexicon Universal Encyclopedia is this: "Impress: to have an effect on (the mind, emotions, etc.); to incite admiration." Neither of those definitions have any sexual content. And sir, if you can find sexual content in those definitions, I would love to hear them. You said in a statement that "The second (crime) can send a "user" to the hospital." Mr. Cohen, the "Got Milk" ad promotes no such "crime," And using the term "users" insinuates that milk drinkers are on the same societal level as cocaine addicts and other druggies. While you have information backing up your statement that milk is addictive, it is not necessary to slander those who drink it. Mr. Cohen, some people say that sex is addictive (a theory which you cannot deny. After all, you have said that you have more than one child.) Does that mean that anything where sex is alluded to should be removed from public view? I think that, if that were the case, sir, you would be sorely disappointed in the world. Mr. Cohen, this ad does not "brainwash" the consumer into purchasing milk. The ad may promote an interest in the show "Dawson’s Creek," but that does NOT encourage statutory rape. On a more personal note, I found the information provided on your site, sir, quite educational. However, I will continue to drink milk because I find it to be a product that I love. I feel refreshed and invigorated on a warm day after I’ve had a cool glass of milk. I can’t deny that I indulge in chocolate chip cookies and a glass of milk every once in a while. A little Ti Chi in the morning along with a bowl of healthy cereal (and milk) and I’m set to go. I exercise and I try to eat right, although in today’s world that isn’t always possible. I eat beef and I enjoy it. I drink skim milk, sir, and I enjoy it, too. After all, Mr. Cohen, there are many things that I could do to my body to cause it harm. I could smoke, but I don’t. I could do drugs, but I don’t. I could become a glutton and triple my weight and die from heart failure, but I won’t. Why do I abstain from these things? My body is my temple, Mr. Cohen, and I take care of it. But, despite all your facts and figures, I have yet to find that milk does anything but enhance the performance of my body, Mr. Cohen. If I ever think that milk could be the cause of a physical malfunction, I will surely refer back to your quite informative site and review your information again. But, sir, while there is the far-off possibility that I may use your site as a medical reference, I still will not support your in your argument against the Joshua Jackson milk ad. If you could make your argument more valid, then I might agree with you on some points. But until that time, sir, I find your argument quite childish and uninformed. Please revise some of your statements to make them accurate. Do not defame the integrity of an actor, but instead, strike out against your intended target; the milk industry. Do not make assumptions based on loose definitions of a word, sir, but instead review the sentence in question and find the proper definition of a word in order to make a sound argument. And sir, before speaking out against a show or a particular segment of a show, please research that show so your arguments will be free of logical inconsistencies. My suggestion? Perhaps watch the episodes in question so that you’ll be properly informed. When you speak in a mature manner, as did "Dawson’s Creek," your audience will listen, Mr. Cohen. When your statements are true and unbiased, you will have a profound impact on the people who hear you. Until that time, sir, you are simply another person who has taken your complaint to the highest level you can. One amongst millions, sir. Sincerely, Kerry R. Hurley

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kerry,

From the volume of personal EMAIL, I see that my Johsua Jackson column is making its rounds on the world wide web.

I will take this important opportunity to reach out to all teens on a subject near and dear to them:

ZITS are oily/greasy pus-filled pimples which break out across your faces and bodies.

One liter of milk can contain up to 750 million pus cells. Every sip of milk contains estradiol, progesterone, and testosterone. The average American, from milk and dairy products eats every day the equivalent cholesterol as is contained in 53 slices of bacon.

GOT MILK? GOT ZITS!

Eat pus with hormones and fat and cholesterol and you're gonna get 'em. The cure is also quite simple.

Take the 14 day test (NOTMILK) and your zits will be gone.

Joshua Jackson has betrayed you.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lin Kremenak
Website: Pacey and Andie's Sparring Page...
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 1999-06-29 22:37:44
Comments: I'm sorry but what I just read about Joshua Jackson is uncanny and it sounds like his ad is being put down for ludicrous reasons. It was taken all out of context and I for one am sick of people turning things into what they're not and just try to enjoy themselves for some time. I'm 18 years old and I would love it if an older person would look up to me. Which is what the ad states. Every teenage and younger kid would. Yes, on the TV show Dawson's Creek he did have an illegal affair with a teacher...but they fail to see what came of that. His character came through that predicament quite nicely...stood up for the teacher, and now the character Pacey has a steady relationship and it's a MATURE one. Having older people look up to you doesn't mean anything deragatory in my book. I think Joshua made the perfect spokesmodel for teens to drink milk...your whole site seems to turn people off of milk altogether...and being the aid skim milk drinker that I am, I think that's an even worse crime than saying something in an ad. All kids need milk...and the level of kids you may think the ad's are disrupting more than likely don't read magazines or can't read at all. What they need is milk...'milk does a body good'...and I believe that. Everyone needs it, they need to grow up, and realize that no one's at fault here...and please don't go blaming an innocent actor who just signed up for the ad not knowing what trouble it would cause. It's not his fault at all and I feel sorry for him having his ad run through the gutter when it was even given an award...I'm proud of Josh....and to everyone who drinks MILK!

Dear Lin,

The dairy industry is selling a message to you, brainwashing you through a series of milkstache ads.

"http://notmilk.com/deb/070899.html

Brainwashing occurs when the victim is not aware of the predator's message.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: ???
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ????
Time: 1999-06-29 11:43:45
Comments: What the (censored) are you talking about? You (censored)!!! Milk is like the best thing to drink. That is some (censored) your trying to preach.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear friend,

Is it the hormones in milk (testosterone and adrenalin) that give you such rage?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Seems that too much milk/dairy destroys the ability to read and
comprehend! Besides... on NOTMILK you are writing... not talking!

Perhaps that (along with lack of honesty/accountability) is why these
types can't remember their names or Email addresses.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: Kimberly
Website: Your column about Joshua
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Florida
Time: 1999-06-29 07:21:48
Comments: What the HECK are yall thinkin that you can put down the Got Milk ad's, Especially Josh Jackson's? What gives you the right? That ad didn't say anything to act like you should date a 40 year old. I am totally disgusted by you people!!!!!

Dear Kimberly,

We are a bit disappointed in ourselves too. After all, we tried to get the Pope to comment about the inappropriate milk ads. The best we could do was get a letter of condemnation from the Archbishop, John Cardinal O'Connor.

When an adult has sex with a minor, that's statutory rape, even if the sex is consensual. Today (June 28, 1998) the Chicago Tribune reported that the Milk Education Board has filed complaints with the attorney general and Federal Trade Commission because the milk ads are misleading, deceptive and promote a crime.

Joshua Jackson wants to "impress older women." The dairy industry promotes two crimes. The first can send an adult to jail.

The second can send a "user" to the hospital. Got Milk? That's unhealthy, and your body will pay the price for that crime!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alice
Website: Nutrition for Dummies :)
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-06-28 21:19:12
Comments: Hey, Notmilkman! I have another question for you: why are milk drinkers so nasty? Here we are trying to extend their lives, and improve the quality of their lives, and all we get is grief! :) On a more serious note, in response to your milk inspector friend who's been posting here lately, there are numerous studies and reports and numbers and facts and figures, and to tell you the truth, after a while my vision gets blurry and I get bored. Who cares if the mercury is 4 parts per million, billion, gazillion?? When I get Confused by all this Information available, I just sit back and ask myself, "What is the most common-sense answer here? Hmmm, if Nature (or God, or whatever) had intended us to consume cow's milk, why weren't we born as calves? If Nature had intended us to eat animals, why can't we kill them ourselves and eat them raw like lions and other predators? Why do we have someone else do the unpleasant work, and then cook it and prepare it until it no longer resembles an animal? Even then, it often sickens us immediately, as we can't handle bacteria such as e.coli. Yet a dog (or lion, or other natural 'predator') can eat raw meat laying out in the sun for a few hours with no ill effects... hmmmm, this is starting to appear as if perhaps it's not very 'natural' after all...." Nature knows what it's doing! If you consume something that makes you sick (i.e. milk, meat, drugs, etc.) then your body's trying to tell you something! Thanks Notmilkman! Lots of us love you!! We blow you un-phlegmy kisses!

Name: Terrance & Monique Griffiths
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Time: 1999-06-27 06:01:40
Comments: Great web site!! My wife read 'Milk, The Deadly Poison" after I mentioned to her that I had read about milk's link to osteoporosis from a book entitled " Your Health, Your Choice ". I was looking for more up-to-date info about this topic in the libary with VERY LITTLE luck. I have some well educated and stubborn friends who wanted some well documented & researched evidence. I decided to search on the net and to my amazement, I found Robert Cohen's homepage. I am very impressed with the amount and quality of info on this vital topic. I intend to share my valuable find with all of my friends. Keep up the honest work! Let the truth be known!

Name: Aomi
Website: Animal Rights Action Site
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maine
Time: 1999-06-27 04:56:35
Comments: It's too bad that so many people are unaware of what's wrong with milk. This site has a lot of information and tells it like it is. I will definitely recommend it to others. But I think you should also include how cruelly dairy cows are treated, because they are given hormones to make their udders larger, which is painful for the cows, and unhealthy for everyone. This is a photo to give everyone an idea of what cows go through so people can have their milk. Great site!

Name: Katie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-26 05:57:08
Comments:

I just wanted to add to Andrew Wilson's comment about milk alternatives.

They ARE out there, people. I don't really care for soy milk, but I found that rice milk is actually quite tasty!

Trader Joes makes some great vanilla rice milk, and Rice Dream makes excellent rice milk as well. (I prefer the vanilla flavor because it's a bit sweeter.

Honestly, folks, try giving up dairy. You'll look and feel so much better!

Here's to healthy living!

~Katie


Name: Andrew Wilson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-25 18:17:11
Comments: Mr. Notmilkman, I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoy your webpages. I think you are highly credible, and when I say I just surfed in, actually, I have had your webpages bookmarked for quite some time so I keep coming back to them over over again. Ever since I stopped drinking milk, I feel better, look better, have received positive comments from people in the gym, and from the family. I used to laugh at my mother and father when they started drinking soy milk, but when I read your webpage many moons ago, it was a slap in the face to me about milk. Now, I wonder why I ever drank cow's milk in the first place, and I wonder how much healthier and better I would have been in life if my mother--bless her soul--had filled up me up during the first two years of my life with delicious soy milk instead of cow crap milk. Even though soy still tastes strange to me, it does not taste bad, and I have discovered from the health store, soy chocolate protein drinks with absolutely no dairy in them that, when added to soy milk, taste better than any cow's milk ever did. Don't berate the movie stars for brainwashing the young people--after all, movie stars are just good--looking talented (well-meaning?) individuals who really don't know everything about everything and if the world did not make gods of them, did not worship them--not realizing that movie stars have to go to the washroom, pull their pants and take a dump like the rest of us 9-to-5 commoners--they would have no power over anybody about anything--especially about drinking milk and wearing that damnable ugly, pus-tasche. A word of advice, and we don't tell people what to do: don't respond to that Dale person anymore. He may be a milk tester or inspector, and we're happy he is doing his job, and doing it well. He is trying to wear you down. That's his job. He gets paid to do that. He's the 'other side'. Do not waste your fine intellect and talent, and God- given talent on rebutting this guy everytime. He is doing the work of his father--the dairy industry--and its perrogative is to break you. We (I) don't like being attacked so when I am, I always have good people around me who can retain their rationality and reign me back in before my tongue can do vast damage (ie get into a argument) where I will say things I will be sorry for later. You have done nothing wrong--your behaviour is explimentary--but take the time that you would have put into these rebuttals (he posted 15 times to your guestbook?, what a dick) and put it into your kids--into giving your kids a hug. That's what most important. Right? Am I right or am I right. Tell you what: I will pray for him that he can lose these seeds of harbour and sullen resistance that he has for you. Tell you what's most important. Here goes. It's not that your the Not MilkMan, or that I am someone you will never see, or that Arnold Schwarzengger is the most famous bodybuilder that has ever lived, or that Tyra Banks is one gorgeous (Beautiful babe with a bod that would make men commit innumerable crimes to possess her) fox--that's brainwashed--or that Stephen King is the crowned master of terror, or that Bill Clinton is a pretty good president. There are only two things most important in life that people will remember you long after you have crumbled to dust, awaiting ressurection and judgement: YOUR CHARACTER And your character (how you conducted yourself and helped people)--yours--stands as a shining light. Keep up your excellent work.

Name: Nicole Powers
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: 1st CA now AZ
Time: 1999-06-25 13:07:21
Comments: Hey, bottom line here folks (REALITY CHECK!), the air is poison, the water is poison, and now the organic food is under attack, due to the cowpie soil, and until people WAKE the f!!! up, then were going to stay in the position we are in. Stop talking, start doing. But, no, everybody wants to sit on their laurels and B!!!!. Lose the tude and get a grip! Everyone's been brainwashed (still are), and do not want to have to spend time educating themselves to a different, new, positive, happy, alternative lifestyle. Good God, I would have to "change". Scary, huh? From reading these letters, after I wrote my first letter, I have learned something. 0 blood types do not tolerate milk. I am an 0-. WOW. (read my message from before, dated today). Some of you folks are pretty scary creatures. You ought to ponder your own defensive lifestyles. Made me think of a Colorado high school reading some of your messages. I agree about starting changes with caffiene, but, what about sugar (and bringing Stevia into the country as a replacement, as it is a natural plant,not man made crap). The we can work on tobacco, and man made drugs, oooh, and while were at it, let's get back to Prohibition, and eliminate booze. That's a poison. No-one gives a s!!! about that. Point is, It's Never Gonna Happen. So quit your b!!!!!!, unless you plan on geting off your duff to do something POSITIVE! : ) Happy Huntin

Name: Nicole Powers
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Orange Co., CA. Now Chandler, AZ.
Time: 1999-06-25 11:44:25
Comments: I am "lactose intolerant", so I would not drink milk anyway. When I was a child my family used to try to get me to drink it, but it made me feel like gagging. I hate milk. In fact, I starved for my first six months,until a doctor suggested to my mom to put me on soy. Then I "thrived", according to my mom.

Name: Fembot O'Loughlin
Website: THE CASEIN CRAVERS HOMEPAGE
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-06-25 07:08:00
Comments: I am starting an I LOVE CASEIN CLUB - anybody that wants to join can contact me at: Resident's Lounge, MATER PATER HOSPITAL, PO Box 1179, Maroubra NSW 2035, Australia. I drink milk purely for the casein - as the casein is a glue I find that it is actually keeping all of my internal organs firmly in place...AND it's great for Alzheimers because you don't lose any brain cells...they stay right where they are baby!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Fembot,

History recorded the first "I LOVE CASEIN CLUB" 4,700 years ago. Hieroglyphics record that casein was used to mummify and preserve human flesh. In 1922, English archeologists actually discovered a perfectly preserved lox alongside a mummified Tutankhamen. After chipping away the casein, they enjoyed a breakfast of bagels and cream cheese. Alas, the ancient curse of the Pharoah's tomb claimed two victims. They died four days later from an E. coli infection: TAINTED CREAM CHEESE!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Katie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-06-25 02:49:42
Comments: Robert,

Found this and thought this was good news!

http://www.pcrm.org/news/milk_mustache_complaint.html.

Plus, I LOVE the new look of the site. Much easier to navigate, and alot cleaner. Keep up the great work!

Katie
(please remove the no-spam to reply to my email address)


Name: Sita Upadhya Murali
Website: Sita Ka Ghar
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Srinagar, Kashmir, Bharat
Time: 1999-06-24 22:25:37
Comments: I'm doing a report for school on nutrition and fitness, and I want to include some things on how milk consumption causes asthma and other fitness-related ailments. I checked your "asthma" page under "evidence" but I didn't find much information on how milk actually causes asthma. Could you direct me to some more information? Thanks. By the way, ever since I gave up milk nearly two years ago my asthma has been completely dormant.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sita,

You are not alone. Every person who I have known with asthma who has given up milk and dairy products finds the cure.

Here is why.

Eighty percent of milk protein is CASEIN, a tenacious glue and powerful allergin. This protein is mucus-forming. Our bodies produce histamines to its presense. The histamines result in mucus. The mucus clogs the bronchioles of the lungs so that breathing becomes difficult, if not impossible.

ALL people are affected by this protein. For some, the effects are mild. For others, the effects can be deadly.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-24 04:22:09
Comments: In the process of doing my duties yesterday I traveled 150 miles in total. I collected retail food samples from a total of four stores in my area, (over two counties) properly sealed, packaged, labeled and filled out collection records for all, and shipped them to our laboratory in Madison. I also licensed a grade "A" farm in the morning, and visited a new parlor milking operation in the afternoon to conduct a pre-inspection. Since my home is also my office (at substantial savings to the taxpayer, I might add...) I am able to check and respond to things like E-mail or discussion if I happen to be here. In the end, the taxpayers of Wisconsin got a full days work, and I was also able to fulfill my responsibility to educate the public to the best of my ability.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENTS:

Dear Dale,

You were one busy inspector yesterday, and we are all very proud of you!

Allow me to ask a few questions, please?

Did you wear gloves while taking samples? Do the gloves fit? Did you drop one of the gloves? Did you cut yourself? Would the bloodstains in your driveway match your DNA?

You posted 15 times to this guestbook in an eight hour period. That averages out to once every 32 minutes. How is the gas mileage on your state-owned Sikorsky helicopter? Do you have alibis for each segment of the 150 mile flight?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-06-23 18:32:32
Comments: Robert, You question how it is that Mr. Anderson can find time to make so many posts to your guestbook? Let me explain if I may. Part of any Dairy Inspector's job is to instruct the ignorant when it comes to questions regadring milk and food safety. I'd say he's found someone (you) in real need of some instruction and he is doing a pretty good job. Regards, Jim

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

I am certain that the good people from the state of Wisconsin including the "cheeseheads" will take great comfort in knowing that their tax dollars are invested by having a milk inspector write 15 letters to the NOTMILKMAN, instead of doing the job he is paid to do.

Makes sense to me! After all, what would happen to their state economy if Dale found unsafe levels of Dioxins or mercury in the milk?

Perhaps their most prudent investment would be to have Dale sitting at a desk, surfing the internet, rather than in the field learning the truth about milk and dairy products.

PS-I bet that no posts from Dale appear today. Occasionally, a man has to do an honest day's work--you know, for appearance sake.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Gee... such a (typical?) waste of government time and payroll...
surfing the net on taxpayors dollars instead of surfing the
barnyards looking for problems.

Oh... Jim... speaking of "instruct the ignorant"...

Seems that Mr. Anderson should shut off his overheated computer, find a
full length mirror for YOU to up for him, and then he can "educate"
two ignorant birds with ONE stone.

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster and victim


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 05:53:14
Comments: Bob says: "You are a State tester. Start testing." Bob, do you really think that the words "tester" and "inspector" are synonymous? They are not. We have a completely separate Bureau of Labratory services that does the testing. I, as a Food Safety Inspector, have a broad spectrum of responsibilities, but actually running tests is not one of them. Neither is it part of my responsibilities to determine testing policies for the Department. Personally, I have no objection to testing. One wonders if they will end up with the same results that resulted in England, according to the web page you pointed to. Less than a trigger level of .004 mg/kg, which was determined to not be a problem. Do you know of the story of the boy who cried "wolf," Bob?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

Yes, I know that story well. Isn't that the one in which ultimately, the hunter heeds the little boy's cry and comes and shoots the big bad wolf?

In this case, your milk is the big bad wolf...and ultimately, somebody you work with will be shamed into testing the milk by this little boy.

Whether you're a tester or inspector or Internet junkie (15 posts in one day sets a record on this GUESTBOOK), you still have the responsibility of testing the milk. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

I promised to leave every post on this GUESTBOOK. However, 15 posts during office hours. Does that come under the job describtion of Inspector or Tester? Hey Dale, you're doing a fine job of testing my patience!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 05:47:06
Comments: Bob says: "In your previous post (#1184) you questioned my math. I stand by my numbers, and believe that you are in error." The question is not in your math, Bob. The question is in your claim, compared to the FDA web page presented earlier. You claim the trigger level was lowered to one part per million. The web page says the trigger level is five parts per *billion*. Are you actually claiming both figures are one in the same?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

We have established the following facts.

1) You are a state milk inspector.

2) You and your department refuse to test milk for hazardous chemicals.

Whether it's one part per billion or one part per million, how are we going to know unless you guys test the milk?

Besides posting fifteen messages to my guestbook, as you did today, what the heck do you do in a day's work?

FDA be damned! I showed you how they recently changed the standard for an antibiotic, increasing it from 30 parts per billion to 300 parts per billion. We can talk numbers all day long, but FDA has no credibility when it comes to establishing safe ranges for antibiotics.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 05:39:42
Comments: Bob says: "Mg/Kg means milligrams per kilogram. Since there are 1000 milligrams in a kilogram, that's one part per thousand." Both my dictionary and my cohorts here agree that there are one thousand grams in a kilogram, and one thousand miligrams in a gram. Would you care to do the figures again for all to see?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

In post #1184 I wrote:

"I am not a math major either. Perhaps I made an error. Let's work this out together, OK?"

It turns out that you are correct.

There are 1 million milligrams in a kilogram. Therefore, there were four parts per billion of mercury in those milk samples and not four parts per million.

Thanks for setting me straight.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 04:37:23
Comments: Bob said: "After genetically engineering the bovine growth hormone, Monsanto learned that cows were getting mastitis, painful ulcers on their udders which resulted in an increase in pus, blood and bacteria in milk." The definition of mastitis is "ulcers," Bob? What is the source for this definition, please? While it can be said that an ulceration of the udder may cause mastitis, it is definately a stretch to claim that all mastitis results in ulceration of the udder.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

In order to easily explain mastitis to members of Congress, in 1992 GAO issued a report on mastitis and described the broad range of inflammations of cows udders in this fashion.

Test herds reacted to Monsanto's new genetically engineered hormone with a disproportionate number of cases of acute mastitis. These ulcerated udders scared a number of people in the dairy industry, particularly in your state of Wisconsin. Senator Russ Feingold actively spoke against Monsanto's hormone. Pete Hardin, editor of the MILKWEED, a dairy marketing newsletter, printed stolen files detailing the horrors of Monsanto's new hormone.

Actually, mastitis is quite common to cows, but not so easily recognized. Acute mastitis is more easily identified because the udder appears more abnormal. FDA has written that if one cow in a hundred cow herd has acute mastitis, chances are that between 15 and 40 additional animals in that same herd also have mastitis.

In addition to more blood, pus and bacteria, the milk from cows with mastitis might also contain a higher pH, making it more alkaline.

It is not fair to say that all cases of mastitis cause visible damage to udders. It sure would be easy if that was the case. American regulators allow 750 million pus cells in every liter of milk, while in Europe, the standard is much lower; only 400 million. A recent survey of dairy farmers showed that most preferred the higher level.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 04:33:18
Comments: With all due respect, Bob, you really haven't answered this question of mine in the context it was asked: "They will find the answer is five parts per billion. Would people be wrong for coming to the conclusion that your one part per million claim is a distortion of what is really happening out in the field?"

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

In your previous post (#1184) you questioned my math. I stand by my numbers, and believe that you are in error.

You are a State tester. Start testing. Without your diligence, we'll never know the truth. Please let us know the levels of dioxins in Wisconsin milk, won't you Dale? Same goes for the mercury.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 04:28:28
Comments: Bob says: "However, in England, they do test milk for mercury and have found samples to include mercury levels that are toxic to humans, four parts per million: http://www.maff.gov.uk/food/infsheet/1994/no44/table1.htm." Four parts per million, Bob? Are you sure? The chart says that less than .004 mg/kg was found. I lay no claim to being a math expert, but two other people have looked at that and come to the conclusion that that's not a correct answer.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

I am not a math major either. Perhaps I made an error. Let's work this out together, OK?

Mg/Kg means milligrams per kilogram. Since there are 1000 milligrams in a kilogram, that's one part per thousand.

If the level was 1.0 there would be one part per thousand or 1,000 parts per million. Are you with me?

If the level was 0.1 there would be 100 parts per million.

If the level was 0.01 there would be 10 parts per million.

If the level was 0.001 there would be 1 part per million.

The chart said: 0.004 mg/kg which would be four parts per million.

That's the way I read the chart. Do you and your friends still disagree?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 03:57:02
Comments: It's probably a good thing you got a negative response to Dioxin, Bob. It probably would have been embarassing to have to ask if the state of Wisconsin was testing the milk for the presence of dry farts! As to what is done in the case of contamination or adulteration of food, sampling, testing and investigation would proceed until the source of that contamination was identified. Steps would then be taken as necessary to remove the source of contamination. But, the issue you pressed so loudly in this discussion was mercury. What were you told of mercury testing?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

I was told that the State of Wisconsin is not testing milk for the presense of mercury, and has never done so.

I was also told that the State of Wisconsin is not testing for the presence of dioxins either, despite the fact that the World Health Organization recently stated that 90% of the dioxins entering the human body come from milk, dairy products, and meat.

I did not ask about your "dry farts" or other anal discharges. I suppose there's a good reason for the filter that must be placed between the collection vats and the bulk holding tank.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington DC, originally NYC
Time: 1999-06-23 02:39:34
Comments: Finally I can make an entry here (I hope) -- didn't work last times. Seriously good work going on here. Bravo!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Noel,

Great news! Now that school is over and millions of kids are surfing the net, you should be able to POST comments any time...between 3:00 AM and 5:00 AM.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 01:03:37
Comments: Bob said: "For gosh sakes, Dale, you are a state dairy inspector for Wisconsin. Doesn't the buck stop in your pasture? How could you not know whether you are testing milk for the presense of mercury? Isn't this, er, like, a one-phone call kinda thing for you?" Does the buck stop with me? No, not when it comes to development of department policy. That is up to higher levels of departmental management, as they work on food safety issues and develop policy. How would I not know? I don't know all of what is going on in a department that numbers in excess of one hundred food and meat inspectors in the field, not including office support staff. To be inundated with the results of all of the tests and policy discussions that are routinely done by our department would only cause for confusion and overload on the part of the inspectors. That's why information like that is best available through our central office. Not only can they potentially answer the questions, they are better able to deal with any potential followups. As to if it's a simple phone call, really it's simpler than that! I can forward your request if and when you send it to me, as one other person has done.

Now, don't you feel silly browbeating a simple field inspector who has been honest as to his knowledge and offered to forward your concerns to higher authority?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

Yes. I do feel silly browbeating a simple field inspector. I'm ashamed of my behavior.

I just called Ben Brancel, the Commissioner of Wisconsin's State Department of Agriculture. His phone number is 608-224-5014. I am nominating you for a special award, Dale. Together, you and I can make a big difference in this industry, and I am going to give you all of the credit.

We should immediately begin a testing program for Mercury, lead, iodine and selenium in milk. Hopefully, all of these toxic materials are below the unsafe standard level.

Did you hear about the ban on meat and dairy products in Belgium? People are pretty upset in Europe. They are testing the milk for unsafe DIOXIN levels. The news isn't good.

Sandy Chalmers called back and let me know that nobody is testing milk in your state for DIOXINS. That's not such a good idea. After all, people should know what they are drinking, don't you think?

Dale...I do not want to browbeat you. I want you to be a HERO!

Let's work together on this and test milk. The people will thank you, and I would imagine that your co-workers will applaud any discoveries we make. Dairymen will also appreciate knowing whether their milk is safe or not. Just think... If we find unsafe levels of dioxins in milk, we can...er, what will we do, Dale?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: David Rietz
Website: DORway to Discovery! Say NO to aspartame
Referred by: From the WEBmaster of NOTMILK
From: Goose Creek, SC
Time: 1999-06-22 22:30:33
Comments:
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The following seven letters have been posted by
Wisconsin state dairy inspector, Dale Anderson.
In order to fully understand and follow the dialogue
between Dr. Anderson and the NOTMILKMAN, the letters
should be read in order of submission, beginning with
post #1173.
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DAVE RIETZ, Webmaster

Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 20:59:49
Comments: This question went unanswered: "1) What is the "Tolerance or Safe Level" for PENICILLIN in milk?" People who are interested will find the answer at:

http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~ear/MA85addd.html

They will find the answer is five parts per billion. Would people be wrong for coming to the conclusion that your one part per million claim is a distortion of what is really happening out in the field?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

The FDA'S safe level is not based upon science or research. That protocal is subjective, and arbitrary. FDA continues to change their definitions and ranges, subject to the amounts of antibiotics found in milk. The previous response to your question (POST #1177 ) illustrated how the "safe level" to an antibiotic was changed.

"Before approval, FDA allowed residues of 30 parts per billion of this antibiotic to show up in milk samples. Unfortunately, milk samples tested out at 300 parts per billion. What did FDA do? They changed the standard! The new standard is now 300 parts per billion!"

I have no respect for FDA'S "safe level," and said so in my previous post. That is why I choose not to list their standards.

Do these increases in antibiotics have a significant effect? You're darned right they do. The Dannon company cannot use milk treated with 300 parts per billion...the yogurt cultures die.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 19:54:25
Comments: You said: "In your previous question (Guestbook entry #1173) we discussed the presense of mercury in milk and I asked whether you, a licensed inspector from the state of Wisconsin, are testing milk for mercury. You did not respond to my question, so I assume the answer is no." But Bob... I *did* respond to your question. I said I did not know, and that I would be willing to forward the question to someone who may, as long as the request came directly to me via E-mail so I could forward the query to them verbatum so there would be no misunderstanding. Why is it you feel the necessity to both lie about and distort what others are saying?

NOTMILKMAN'S RESPONSE:

Dear Dale,

Eisenhower said, "We are not flying spy missions over the Soviet Union" and we belived him, even after Gary Powers was shot down. Richard Nixon said "I am not a crook." At the time, we believed him. Clinton said, "I did not inhale," and we elected him to America's highest office. Early on in Starr's investigation, Slick Willie said "I did not have sex with that woman." (Jay Leno shows that tape almost every night!)

Now, you have the chutzpah (do they use that word in Wisconsin?) to come to this guestbook and accuse me of lies and distortion?

For gosh sakes, Dale, you are a state dairy inspector for Wisconsin. Doesn't the buck stop in your pasture? How could you not know whether you are testing milk for the presense of mercury? Isn't this, er, like, a one-phone call kinda thing for you? Somebody's playing games here, and it's not me. I see that when you are backed into the confining corner of a tiny veal-calf's stall, you come out fighting. Please answer the question put to you.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 07:51:24
Comments: The following questions should be together and answered in order so guestbook readers can fully understand the issue and question at hand: 1) What is the "Tolerance or Safe Level" for PENICILLIN in milk? 2) How does that figure compare to what you have claimed in part on your web pages the FDA lowered the "Tolerance or Safe Level" to? 3) Do your web pages point out *exactly* what that the true amount in question #1 is? 4) Do your web pages have a link to the FDA web page that gives "Beta Lactam Test Methods for Use Under Appendix N of the PMO"? 5) If the answer to either question 3 or 4 is "no," why not?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

After genetically engineering the bovine growth hormone, Monsanto learned that cows were getting mastitis, painful ulcers on their udders which resulted in an increase in pus, blood and bacteria in milk. Monsanto arranged to have their top scientist, Margaret Miller, hired by FDA where she reviewed her own research. Aware that dairymen would have to treat cows with more antibiotics, Miller simply raised the allowable levels of antimicrobials farmers could put in milk.

FDA CHANGED THE STANDARD!

Miller arbitrarily increased the allowable level by one hundred times -- from one part per hundred million to one part per million!

On March 16, 1994, a letter signed "concerned CVM employees" was circulated to members of Congress, GAO, Dr. David Kessler (Commissioner of FDA), the Inspector General of the United States Richard P. Kusserow, and Michael Hansen of Consumer's Union. The letter in part reads:

"Dr. Miller (wrote) a policy on use of antimicrobials in milk. She picked an arbitrary and scientifically unsupported number of 1 part-per-million as being the allowable amount of antimicrobial in milk permitted without any consumer safety testing. This is for any antimicrobial. A cow could be treated with several antibiotics and each one would be permitted to be in milk at a level of 1ppm without additional consumer safety testing. Effects of the different antibiotics could be additive and this is not taken into account."

Michael Hansen of Consumers Reports testified and brought attention to Congressional committees that 52 drugs are known to be used as antibiotics to treat mastitis. According to Consumer's Union, FDA had approved only 30 of those antibiotics. Milk is routinely tested for the presence of six different antibiotics. Farmers are aware of the antibiotics being tested. Do you imagine they might be tempted to use any of the other 46 not currently being tested?

HERE WE GO AGAIN!

When something doesn't work for the dairy industry the FDA often helps private industry by changing the standard. This does not make the product any safer but it does allow the FDA to officially state that the drug residue is "well within safe levels." This is usually done at the expense of the consumer.

Margaret Miller's name recently "popped up into the news" again. It seems that FDA approved a powerful liquid antibiotic for lactating dairy cows. It is called:

LIQUAMYOCIN 200

Before approval, FDA allowed residues of 30 parts per billion of this antibiotic to show up in milk samples. Unfortunately, milk samples tested out at 300 parts per billion. What did FDA do? They changed the standard! The new standard is now 300 parts per billion!

There is evidence of both comedy and tragedy...The Dannon Yogurt Company cannot use this milk because the antibiotic kills the acidophilus which they add to their cultured product. Not so cultured, huh? FDA approved this product, and whose name do you think they have as contact for more information? None other than Margaret Miller, Ph.D. Her phone number is 301-827-5282. Let Dr. Miller know how happy you are about arbitrary changes in antibiotic protocols. Give her number to your congressman and demand an investigation.

You ask why I have no links to FDA sites or standards. I hope the above answers your question.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 07:35:02
Comments: I do not know if it has been the policy of our department to test for mercury in milk. We as inspectors take routine samples of both raw milk and pasteurized finished product, but we are not always informed of all tests or the history of such tests. For those that are truely interested, they can directly E-mail me, and I will forward the query to the head of our food division for an answer.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

Thank you! We would appreciate that analyses, and promise to publish the results, after your department conducts this critically important test.

Can we expect test results in a few days? Today is June 22. We would love to have those results before July 1, just in case. If there are toxic amounts of mercury in Wisconsin's milk supply we want plenty of time to warn America not to eat ice cream during the big July 4th weekend!

Get off the computer and get to those farms, Mr. tester!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 07:28:31
Comments: Would the average person who had little in scientific knowledge be justified in questioning the credibility of a person (and his "scientific claims") who would make as blatent of an error as claiming mercury was being used as an ingredient in something like an udder wash?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

Absolutely! You got me on that one, Dale.

After reading your GUESTBOOK POSTS (#1173 & #1174) the "average person" will now have the facts about this very controversial subject. Thank you for helping me to bring truth to the issue of mercury in milk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 07:22:26
Comments: You said: "Mercury actually is finding its way into milk, and this is something that is of great concern to consumers, dairymen and dairy inspectors." What is your proof that mercury is getting into the milk? That states are taking preventative measures to prevent a potential contamination does not prove the contamination is actually happening.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

In your previous question (Guestbook entry #1173) we discussed the presense of mercury in milk and I asked whether you, a licensed inspector from the state of Wisconsin, are testing milk for mercury. You did not respond to my question, so I assume the answer is no .

Therefore, a simple response to your question would be that if you ignore a problem, and hope it goes away, then it really cannot possibly exist.

However, in England, they do test milk for mercury and have found samples to include mercury levels that are toxic to humans, four parts per million:

http://www.maff.gov.uk/food/infsheet/1994/no44/table1.htm

In America, there were warnings not to eat swordfish because their flesh contained mercury in the parts-per-billion range. The official government warning is to not eat swordfish more than once per month. I would be happy to see a similar warning for any product containing four parts per billion of mercury.

Four parts of mercury per million should result in a permanent ban.

I am puzzled by your response, Dale. Why are you, as a state inspector, not testing milk samples for the presense of mercury? Evidence exists that mercury is in milk, and many states have taken steps to recall manometers and feed containing this toxic metal. Mercury vapors are also contained in the atmosphere, sometimes ingested into a cow's body much the same way dioxins are ingested. Mercury is then concentrated in the body fluids of cows, to be passed on to humans.

You can make a great difference, Dale. Test the milk, please. We rely upon people like you for our safety.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 04:18:29
Comments: Is it true you once told a state dairy inspector that farmers in his area were using mercury as an udder wash?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

Yes, Dale, I did. You are that inspector, from the State of Wisconsin. Welcome to my site. I was incorrect, of course.

You and I never discussed why I was so concerned about mercury in milk, which can be toxic to humans. I knew that there was mercury in milk and dairy products, but I incorrectly assumed that it was in a teat dip.

A few months after we spoke, I read a report from the Department of Environmental Protection It has been discovered that mercury, is highly toxic to humans, animals and the environment. Because the naturally occurring, silvery liquid expands and contracts evenly with temperature and pressure changes, it is ideal for use in such things as thermometers and vacuum gauges (manometers). However, mercury can escape in vapors, which are in turn inhaled by humans and animals. Mercury actually is finding its way into milk, and this is something that is of great concern to consumers, dairymen and dairy inspectors.

Even as early as 1996, the MERCURY-IN-MILK secret was well kept. The state of Minnesota proposed $360,000 in their 1997 budget as a way to properly dispose of mercury on dairy farms. See Point #3:

http://fscn.che.umn.edu/dairycenter/8th_Annual_Conf/Coleman-summary.htm

I'm curious, Dale. As a state inspector, are you required to test milk for the presense of mercury? Do you perform these tests? What types of assays do you use? If you're not testing for mercury as a matter of policy, may I ask why not?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cliff
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1999-06-20 10:43:17
Comments: I just read your response to Hunter regarding why would a family doctor recommend drinking milk to families etc etc. And your response (a good one) along the lines of they don't study nutrition much in school. One of your newsletters even attacked physicians credibility. My burning question for you is, what about the other Doctors, as in Doctors of Philosophy? The ones who have earned their doctorates in nutrition and other related nutritious fields?(for lack of a better term). What about their advice? I happen to have in front of me a book written by 2 noted researchers (Dr Lori A Smolin & Dr Mary B Grosvenor) and you know what they say regarding all issues around milk esp bST?; that quote unquote: "The known benefits of drinking milk outweigh the potential risks." in the chapter "How Safe is Our Food Supply?" And BTW, not that there was any need to, but I checked their dossiers, and there was no connection with them to the Dairy Industry, or Cornell University. This is just an example, but I need not quote from people who have their fancy PhD's in nutrition etc; what about your well respected and well credentialed local registered dietician? None of them carry this aggressive fear or attitude of consuming this animals bodily fluids.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cliff,

There are good doctors and there are lousy doctors, but they all have one thing in common. Upon receiving their degree, the Dean of that medical school says the same thing to each one:

"Congratulations, Doctor."

Same goes for dieticians or nutritionists. In a graduating class of 1,000 professionals, somebody has to be ranked number 1, and somebody has to be ranked number 1,000. Hopefully, your professor or healer is not #1,000. However, somebody has to be unlucky enough to either be taught by or healed by #1,000. Please consider that when you look at the cover of Smolin and Grosvenor's book:

Their book is currently ranked # 407,410 on AMAZON.COM and retails for $68.

"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0030177081/qid=929912472/sr=1-1/002-8851099-4763462

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-06-19 21:03:38
Comments: Robert, The American Council on Science and Health (www.acsh.org) has a wealth of information on the subjects that you cover here on your webpage. For example...http://www.acsh.org/press/releases/bst.html Who or what exactly is the ACSH? They don't get money from the dairy industry and they have been around for quite some time now!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

Here is the official position of ACSH on the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone:

"FACT: Giving cows rBGH does not change the composition or wholesomeness of their milk in any way, nor does it affect the amount of rBGH found in the milk."

Their conclusion is far from the truth.

After cows are treated with rbGH, levels of IGF-I increase.

ACSH conslcuded that levels of bGH are indistinguishable in untreated milk and rbGH-treated milk. They also agree with the FDA position that 90% of bGH is destroyed by pasteurization.

I challenge any ten of the best scientists and doctors belonging to this prestigious organization to a debate. They are incorrect. Credentials mean nothing when one is ignorant, and you, Jim, and the ACSH group are full of much more than baloney.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: S.McGowan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-19 05:39:51
Comments: In Robert Cohen's book, "Milk the Deadly Poison", he states that "dairy farmers are prohibited by law from selling this 'colostrum' to the public" (p.170). It seems that colostrum is available for sale. Was the law changed or does the law apply only to dairy farmers? Also, what is your opinion on what appears to be a growing 'health craze' in using colostrum as a cure all?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Colostrum from cows cannot enter the bulk milk tank. In their wisdom, government regulators recognize that this "first milk" contains enormous quantities of powerful growth hormones in addition to lactoferrins and immunglobulins.

Who would have imagined that snake-oil salesmen (wearing the hats of holistic health practitioners) would collect the colostrum, dry it, then promote it as a cure-all for every illness that plagues mankind. According to colostrum proponents, it cures AIDS, broken hearts, and halatosis.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Gaia
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Italy
Time: 1999-06-19 04:04:49
Comments: I just want to ask if every kind of animal milk produces bad effects on our organism, because i'm very fond of milk, and my breakfast wouldn't be the same without milk. My brother suffers of a chronic form of asthma, but we don't use to drink skim-milk. I also want to know if your research is limited to U.S.A. production of milk or if the damage is extended to Europe. Thank you for the attention, Gaia

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Gaia,

NOTMILK for your brother. No Parmesian cheese, no mozzerella, no ricotta...sorry. Get rid of the CASEIN (the musus-forming protein in milk and cheese) and your brother's asthma will disappear.

Those Italian cheeses are delicious. The provolone and peccorino are "TO DIE FOR." particularly for someone with asthma.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: interested party
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: minnesota
Time: 1999-06-18 23:01:31
Comments: What are your comments on organically produced non-fat milk. Also, you've commented on needed magnesium to digest the calcium in milk, but I've read up some on magnesium and you have to be very careful not to get too much; there are many side effects. Is this why vitamin D is added, to aid absorption of the calcium. Since visiting your web page, I have not had any milk, and very little dairy products. I can honestly say I feel much better. I've given it the test, had pizza once, and vegie lasagna another, and was very sick the next day. I won't go into the symptoms. I would appreciate comments on the above. Thank you and keep up the good work.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Organically produced cow's milk is a perfect food for baby cows. Take out the fat and feed it to humans, and we still eat hormones and proteins which cause powerful biological effects.

Your negative reactions came from substances other than the fat. Animal fats have slow working and long term affects on your cardiovascular system.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-06-17 15:47:00
Comments: I went to a lecture by a man called Patrick Holford last night. He is without a doubt the most intelligent person I have ever seen. He has written 14 books, established the centre for optimum nutrition and is constantly in demand to give lectures to universities and the public. His main focus was that we could all achieve optimum nutrtion and prevent all of the deseases (cancer, heart attack, osteoporosis, arthritis, asthma, down syndrome etc) through nutrition. Even deseases we consider genetic and incurable are preventable and curable. He went into the chemistry of how our genes program us and how genes in our body have to be "activated" before they can have any effect. He also said that genes that are activated can be switched off by using nutrition. He has cured people with down syndrome merely by changing their diet. He talked about one girl who had down syndrome and her IQ was 45. After 3 years her IQ was 86 and her whole body changed visually and she no longer needed any special treatment in school. He said that if you have say breast cancer running in the family then the chances are you will get breast cancer too but only if you eat the same diet as your family. I was particularly interested when he brought up the subject of dairy. He said that without a doubt dairy products cause cancer becuase of the hormones. I asked him at the end whether he thought dairy products could be the reason why Japan suddenly has westernized deseases and early sexual maturity. He totally agreed with me and said the hormones in milk are the same hormones in the human body that are responsible for height (Japanese gained an average 4.5 inches in 20 years!!!!) and general growth. He also said that dairy products cause osteoporosis. His lecture was over 2 hours and his knowledge of the human body and its chemical processes was remarkable. This man really holds the key to the future of medicine. I cannot do him justice. If you ever get the opportunity of seeing him I would highly recommend it.

Name: Tool-wielding Ape
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 1999-06-16 19:07:22
Comments: Robert, Regarding your column showing decrease in expenditures on milk since the 50's, does this correlate to lower milk consumption or increased efficiency brought on by factory farming? Were government subsidies (coming out of taxpayers' pockets) factored into the equation? Just curious. Keep the pressure on. Goliath may tumble yet.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Statistics from the United States Department of agriculture include "TOTAL EXPENDITURES FOR FOOD." I asked the same question of one member of the USDA statistics branch. His response:

"What part of 'total' are you having difficulty understanding?"

I feel confident in relying upon these numbers.

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Hunter
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Virginia
Time: 1999-06-16 02:30:33
Comments: Personally, I am not big milk drinker. However, I have a two year old who is. I understand the concerns of bacteria, pus, etc. in milk. Do these same ingredients exist in other dairy products (i.e. cheese)? Also do they exist in beef? Your column is "anti-milk" but based on comments I have read it is anti-beef and anti-cheese. Does the research support your views