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Name: leah
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: michigan
Time: 2000-11-18 23:34:44
Comments: Milk was a poison to me until i happened to read a magazine article in Rheumatology Today ,in a rheumatologist's office waiting symptom free. I waited in agony all month . Curiously no symptoms that day. The article said something about milk and tomatoes being the culprit for triggering arthritis. I had been drinking tremendous amountsof milk not knowing that the proteins were chrystallizing in my joints. Swollen joints and pain went away along with the milk

Name: Natalie Scott
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Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Colorado
Time: 2000-11-16 22:45:04
Comments: After reading an article in Discover magazine by Colin Campbell I decided to do a little more research about dairy, that is how I found your site. I also ordered your book, which I found very informative (though a little hard to read). I stopped drinking milk a long time ago after finding out about the pus content, but I still ate a lot of dairy. Now, I have given it all up and I find myself trying to get everyone else I know to do the same. I wanted to let you know how much I like your site (I refer people to it all the time) and how thankful I am that there are people who think it's important enough for everyone to know the truth. :o)

Name: Robert Anderson
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Referred by: Net Search
From: New Zealand
Time: 2000-11-16 00:29:04
Comments: Robert You are doing an excellent job.

Name: Alexandra
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Brussels, Belgium
Time: 2000-11-15 08:12:29
Comments: I gave up cow's milk a little over two years ago because the cow's milk proteins were going through my milk and causing an allergic reaction in my baby son. Since I have eliminated dairy from my diet I feel so much better its incredible. I used to suffer from IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome) and now its gone. I thought I was allergic to dust as I would sneeze about 50 times when I woke up each morning and have a runny nose all day. People would joke about how easy it was to find me... just follow the soggy tissues! Now that's all behind me. I used to get frequent colds, around 4-6 per year and they were real humdingers. For the first few days my nose would run so badly I would have to walk around with bits of tissues stuck up my nostrils (very attractive)! Then it would all solidify and I would have a stuffy nose and headaches for weeks. Post dairy I get maybe one cold a year, its hardly noticible though, no more gallons of mucous, just a bit of a sore throat. My skin is much clearer, no more breakouts, my face is less puffy and no more dark circles under my eyes. I have lost weight - around 10lbs and have much more energy. To tell the truth, it was a big sacrifice to give up dairy, especially cheese and milk chocolate, but I stopped craving it after a few months. I think perhaps other people have symptoms like the ones I listed above but would never connect it to dairy products (I didn't). I think if anyone gave up dairy they would be surprised and how much better they feel.

Name: Sandy
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle, WA
Time: 2000-11-14 20:16:05
Comments: Hey there, great website. Shocking information. I was surfing around trying to find info as to whether my 4 year old son could be allergic to milk. He never was into milk or cheese until recently. Coincedentally, the same time he started liking milk and cheese, he started snoring so loud at night he'd wake the house! We've been out of milk for the past couple days, and lo and behold - He Stopped Snoring!! He's been sleeping great too! Amazing. Now I know that he's not allergic, but just suffering the consequences of ingesting something that is unnatural to our human bodies. It's soy milk for us from now on! Luckily, he loves the stuff! Thanks again!

Name: Kelly Glassburn
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle, Washington
Time: 2000-11-14 17:29:22
Comments: Milk is icky! What most people don't know, is that humans are the only mammal that continues to drink milk once we're past the "weening" stage. Why must we do this to our bodies? I most definately do NOT "got milk."

Name: Marilyn
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Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Wisconsin
Time: 2000-11-14 14:41:46
Comments: I cannot believe this is true! I used to drink as much milk as possible, but now I dont touch it. I am tring to tell others of this and they dont seem to belive me. I think this should be more public so people know what they are drinking. Thank you for exposing this.

Name: Sherlette Muhammad
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Referred by: From a Friend
From: Toledo, Ohio
Time: 2000-11-12 11:51:47
Comments: What's the problem with milk?

Name: Cat
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Toronto
Time: 2000-11-11 02:19:04
Comments: Wonderful site! I'm desperately trying to find a copy of your book in Toronto... My dad's constantly trying tell me I'm going to die of osteoporosis by the time I'm 40 since I never drank much milk as a child, I'm lactose intolerant. I'm now drinking soy milk, and finding it tastes better, as well. If I had brittle bones, you'd think I'd have broken one in my life...

Name: Marion Schmidt
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: AUSTRIA, Vienna
Time: 2000-11-10 16:07:28
Comments: greetings from VIENNA, tell me something about you and where you live ...

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Marion,

Today I'm in San Diego, California, where I'll be speaking to the EarthSave group at their annual turkey-free Thanksgiving celebration.

Last week, I was in Missouri, and next week I'll be in Ohio. I live in New Jersey, just a few minutes from New York City.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Samantha
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: kent, wa (by seattle)
Time: 2000-11-08 00:59:06
Comments: Hey there. I'm just 15 but I've been vegatarian since I was 12 and vegan since my 15th birthday (june 28). I think of my going vegan a "birthday present to myself" because it has done so much good for me in so many ways. I only wish I became vegan sooner but I wasn't toO informed on it and didn't know excactly what it was or anything but I was refered to your webpage, I forget how though..and right then and there I decided to go vegan and it is the best decision I have ever made. So thanks! Yeh, I'm "going strong" at it and I've convinced so many of my friends to go at least vegatarian so its pretty cool yeh. and I have people I have never even seen before at my school coming up to me asking me about veganism/non-human animal rights. So yeah its pretty cool. Alright then thanks for all the great info!

Name: Jim Leach
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Columbus, Ohio
Time: 2000-11-07 16:22:21
Comments: I'm a dietary vegan and just wanted to say keep up the good work.

Name: Monkey Mary C. Howe
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: my mother's womb
Time: 2000-11-07 09:13:11
Comments: Veganism rocks, everybody!!! Some of my friend's and I are going to start holding protests here, in my hometown of Potsdam. I'm psyched to be vegan, cuz it gives me a good conscience, heart, mind, body, and outlook. I just urge those of you who aren't vegan, to give it a whirl. Don't worry you don't eat tofu and beans 'n' rice 24/7. Peace out. Spread the love!!!

Name: Dawn Martin
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 2000-11-06 22:16:11
Comments: I am vegan myself, and this is an awesome page for facts on dairy. It gives me support, when there never seems to be much at all. I hope that everyone who reads this website changes their lifestyle and stops eating dairy. Wish we would all just respect the lives of animals and leave them be. There are so many great people out there who care. Hopefully we can all spread the word.

Name: Real God Allah
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Orlando,FL
Time: 2000-11-05 09:07:12
Comments: Much Love, Peace, and Happiness to all the human family's who are free from animal diets. To the fact we know why not to eat living animals. Life is the most precious thing on our planet and we need to preserved it for continuoss life. They were not place in the world to be killed or destroy. They were place for the fact to keep our enviroment safe and clean. This beautiful species are like worker because they do work in our enviroment in they own ways. They must be respect and protected from negative forces. So i really support all the different org. who are agaisnt killing animals. Much love and peace to www.notmailk.com and it readers. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share my views. Thank You and please keep our animals safe!

Name: Yvonne>
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maitland
Time: 2000-11-04 16:31:40
Comments: Confirmation at last I get sinus from milk and cut it out everyone gasps where are you getting your calcium from? I take calcium tablets and eat lots of vegetables rarely protein. Bonus - I felt great for the last 2 years.

"Where are you getting your calcium?"

Same place those big-boned COWS get ALL of their calcium... from GREEN PLANTS!

To absorb calcium it must be accompanied with an equal amount of magnesium AND vitamin "D". The low amount of magnesium in cow's milk means that only around 8.8 percent of the calcium is usable. This small gain is most likely more than negated by the fact that cow's milk is high in proteins. In a protein-rich diet, such as exists in America and several other countries, more calcium may be LEACHED from the body then is provided by any amount of milk and dairy consumed.

Those countries with the highest consumption of meat and dairy also have the GREATEST problem with osteoporosis!

If you use calcium supplements... make sure they have an equal measure of magnesium. Then, get some daily sunlight on your skin. Better yet, just eat lots of calcium rich vegetables... see NOTMILK.com for more.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: susan daley
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Referred by: AOL
From: new jersey
Time: 2000-11-03 19:15:59
Comments: I have discovered the most fascinating information, and plan to stop contaminating my body with dairy products right now.

Name: David J. Parker
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Alberta
Time: 2000-11-03 17:25:21
Comments: Dear Robert, I heard you at the WVC in Toronto this summer. I was the guy who cycled to the event. I have written a review of "Milk:The deadly Poison" in our newsletter "The LEADING VEG" and would like to send you a copy. Your e-mail sender doesn't seem to work (hope this does). We and the Calgary group would like to have you come up and speak in Alberta if possible? Howard Lyman has been twice to our EARTH DAY event at a park in Edmonton. Is this a possibility? EARTH DAY is 22 April. DJP

Name: Peter Martin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Colorado
Time: 2000-11-02 21:43:55
Comments: I have also done some research into the cattle industry and was completely astonished at the treatment of cattle. I am currently converting to veganism, and am finding it extremely hard to find non-dairy, or non-animal products in the local Safeway. I'm interested in dairy's relation to acne and zits. I'm currently considering Accutane, and am now wondering if dairy products have contributed to my pimples(along with genes, etc). As a 20 year-old CSU student who has recently found salvation through punk rock music, I can say I'm converting to veganism for every cow, pig, and chicken out there- their CAUSE. "When you know what you know is right, when you feel what you can't ignore, when you try so hard to point the blame, what are we doin' it for, THE CAUSE!" -NOFX

Name: >Curious George
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-11-02 18:56:38
Comments: I would like some discussion about calcium supplements. I take a liquid calcium supplement that has magnesium....on occassions, & also give it to my child. Are the amounts of calcium requirements stated by the government the apropriate amounts for vegetarians? I figure since meat & dairy eaters eat high protein, this would reduce the amount of calcium their body could absorb and they would need to eat higher mgs of calcium in order to get all they needed. I am assuming these requirments were based on getting calcium from dairy. So i figured, well if you eat calcium through plant sources only, you would need much less, since the plant calcium is absorbed easier.Hope this is clear. Anyway, now i worry about too much calcium with the supplement & the stress possibly caused of the elimination of the extra calcium might cause. At the same time, some times I feel my child does not get the 250-300mg he probably needs for his age through his food alone. I could not get the required 1,500 mg from my food alone, I would have to eat never ending....I sure would like to clarify this or at least get some idea, if this is correct or not, totally confused now.. I know a new line of vitamins(forgot name)that are completely vegetable based, (or whole foods), and do contain a very low amounts of calcium, based on this plant calcium absorbability concept. Thanks..

Provide a valid Email address and we will be happy to
provide some comments and suggestions.

By the way... that 1200mg is a dairy industry "tweaked" number.

Guess where those big boned cows get ALL of their
calcium (Yeah, from plants!). Check out this page.

Or... Email your questions to Mr. Cohen


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Annie and Ray Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Rockford, Illinois
Time: 2000-11-02 18:05:54
Comments: YOU ROCK!!!! Wish I could have found you 10 years ago when I became a Step Mother to a very sickly little 3 yr. old boy who suffered reoccurring ear infections - and had been over medicated with antibiotics by his pediatrician (and the biological mother). My own personal experiences as a mother I knew to take MILK out of his diet... Everyone... EVERY ONE! fought with me and encouraged him to drink a glass when I wasn't in the room... (GRRRR) I didn't give up. Instead, I substituted natural juices and herbal teas, almonds and calcium rich veggies - even purified Water... which proved to be his saving grace - (sorry I rushed through this... hope everyone can get the jest of it.) Cows Milk isn't for HumanBeans! PERIOD!

Name: Steve Lopez
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Florida
Time: 2000-11-02 18:05:53
Comments: I was looking for general info. My neice was just diagnosed with autoimmune diabetes and she is very young. My mother heard about this site and asked me to look it up for her. On her 1st birthday checkup when children are vaccinated she also got off formula and on milk. We beleive this combination has lead to her diabetes. We have stopped all dairy products and are hopeing to reverse this condition. I will keep you informed of the progress. Great site.....keep up the good work. Thank you.

Name: Raúl M. Iglesias
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Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York
Time: 2000-11-02 17:27:17
Comments: trying to go dairy free, almost there. I want to be more educated and be able to educate other people

Name: Peter Fulda
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Michigan
Time: 2000-11-02 16:02:47
Comments: Here's how I had fun reading 'Milk the Deadly Poison'. I can't ever remember having this many people listen to me with such open ears on vegan issues. Cohen couldn't have named this book more appropriately. During two recent business trips I took it with me to read, and since the title looked sure to rattle a few peoples' thinking, decided to keep it as visible as possible in airports and planes. Wherever I'd be walking, especially getting on and off planes, I'd hold the book so that the title was in the glance of as many pairs of eyes as possible. Between the two trips, getting on and off eight different planes, I must have been approached by at least a dozen people about the subject matter, and most eagerly wrote down the Notmilk website without me telling them to. What a way to fall into conversations with complete strangers! Did I ever have a ball! Next time I travel by air, I will try the same thing with Gail Eisnitz' 'Slaughterhouse' even though I've already read it.

Name: Gaetano Cichy
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 2000-10-30 22:38:59
Comments: Keep up the great work. Just read your book, Milk- the deadly poison. I'm on board all the way now. NO DAIRY! And I'm an activist for the cause!

Name: Miranda
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Upstate New York
Time: 2000-10-30 18:05:51
Comments: I've always wondered if the push for Americans to drink milk was a scam. I'm doing my term paper on how dairy products are not as good for us as we believe. Thank you for this web page, its been making my research go by much more easily. It has also caused some raised eyebrows. Now I'll experiment with cutting out dairy and see how I feel. I am a runner with asthma and this could possibly be the cause. Thanks again.

Name: Earl Dennis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Idaho
Time: 2000-10-30 14:13:00
Comments: I was reading about the notorious "vegie Liable Law". I live in Idaho one of the states to pass such garbage. I see an interesting chance for national out cry. Idaho State University is a small University located in Pocotello,Idaho. Maybe it is time to entice a small town thinker to carry the tourch for Monsanto and the Solid Milk Producers. It would even be more commical considering Monsanto's sizable economic prevalance in out region.

Name: Karen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-10-30 10:36:42
Comments: Thank you for a great site, I find it very informative. I notice that there are a few messages from milk farmers giving their point of view (which they are entitled to) but with a not very objective one at that!! It makes me wander why they are looking at this site in the first place - curiosity or just sheer antagonism??!! I have done the research myself on milk..No matter what you milk farmers say, cause you will only praise it cause it is your welfare...and welfare being a HUGE issue. It's not normal to drink other animal's milk. So it is okay for a cow to be constantly pregnant to sustain a human satisfaction?? Personally I would not like to be constantly pregnant and my breasts pumped.. the sheer thought makes me sick!!I used to be a great cheese and milk lover, but had alot of stomach problems. I am now vegan, and have never been healthier.

Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kansas
Time: 2000-10-30 02:06:39
Comments: Human's are omnivores - basic science hasn't changed that much since I was in school. We haven't needed to rip flesh from bone for thousands and thousands of years, thanks to our superior intellect and manipulative hands. We can cook, and have learned how to domesticate and raise our prey. No other species protects another at the expense of it's own survival. Cattle have a rumen, horses have a cecum - all to digest grasses and fiber, converting the forages into protein the rest of the food chain can utilize - it's just all part of the big picture. And what's all this talk about the dairy farmer and big bucks? I sold my last cow the first of September - there just wasn't any money to be had milking cows, either as a herd owner or hired milker. So now I am working the night shift making bumper stickers - what a contribution to society. But I have lots more money, insurance, and three day weekends! Three things I did without for a long, long time. And sleep! And a social life. Like the bumper sticker says 'Don't cuss a farmer with your mouth full'. The ag industry is in dire straits - you should all appreciate the safe, abundant, and let's not forget inexpensive, food that the American farmer has provided. It may be every man for himself sooner rather than later. If you want good health, get plenty of exercise, rest, always fasten your seatbelt, and quit smoking. There are over 400 people where I work - and honestly, the healthiest ones are the milk drinkers. The heavy (many very heavy) do the soda thing, and have baskets of candy at their desks and light tables. It's pathetic. They are the ones who take the most sick days. I run circles around the most fit, and I'm 44 years old! My diet has been creamy, whole milk, straight from the cow for the past fifteen years. A lot of it. Tell me again - why has that been bad for me?

Name: Luis Jose Castro
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Bronx , New York
Time: 2000-10-30 01:13:25
Comments: I would like more info on soy cheeseand other soy product and where to get them. My address is 1525 WALTON AVENUE APT 4F Bronx, New York 10452

Name: Rick
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Havasu, AZ
Time: 2000-10-30 00:31:22
Comments: I've stopped drinking milk some time ago. It was a little harder to get my two children and wife off the stuff. I think the thing that got them was, "what other adult animal drinks milk?" They couldn't come up with any.

Name: Bruce S. Kern
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Reading, Pa.
Time: 2000-10-29 19:56:18
Comments: This man is doing a great service! I have been on the John A. McDougall program for a month and have lost 16 pounds and feel wonderful. Dr. McDougall allows no animal or dairy products.

Name: naida c. allison
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: king city, oregon
Time: 2000-10-28 22:25:02
Comments: can i e-mail people i don't know and tell them to go to NOTMILK.COM? i just want to inform as many people as possible about the horrors of milk products.if i get 1 out of 50 to stop using dairy products it is a start.i've gone from "coke glasses" to reading glasses in the 2 1/2 years since i have gone off dairy.lost 80 pounds also.i also don't eat any meat.i am 60 years of age.

Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-10-27 02:38:39
Comments: Yes I know all about SCC, I am a dairy farmer too. I know all about it and my operation depends upon low SCC as a source of increased gross revenue. Our dairy's milk buyer pays a premium for low SCC. Thus, there is an incintive for low SCC in the milk we produce and we go to great lengths to produce "clean" milk for that premium. We are not just poor "dust bowl" farmers-we are business men. We are after a living just like every suit wearing, tie sporting guy on Wall Street and we go for profits. You all say we are $-driven but in reality we are just trying to make an honest living while people like you give us a bad reputation. However, your latest response on your guest book is nothing more that an avoidance of the truth. You did not address the facts I have presented because you know that true, factual science cannot be corrected.--The Milkman

Sigh...

Between www.notmilk.com and www.hungerstrike.com there are over 400 WEB pages of valid information. Common sense should hint that the body fluids from ANOTHER SPECIES are not meant for human consumption. Especially something designed as SHORT TERM nutrition packed with growth hormones and COW-SPECIFIC immunizing agents.

However... more to the point... here is what the USDA says about cow's milk... along with what they have chosen to omit from WHOLE MILK!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Ed Reggi
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Brooklyn, New York
Time: 2000-10-27 02:31:02
Comments: I just heard Mr. Cohen speak a few weeks ago in Kansas City. I must say it was eye opening and changed my diet. Before I didn't twice about eating cheese in my veggie diet. Born very lactose intolerant I never craved the taste of cow's milk but always tempted by the creamy taste of Ice Cream and deserts. I never understood why I suffered so much afterwards! I learned why! His book is so powerful and straight-forward! I am learning to avoid the milk totally and not pick up that cheese meal anymore. And I took his challenge of not eating a milk product for more than two weeks and he was right--I do not suffer from the time-to-time cold-like hackers cough problems in the mornings. Its really working! Thanks Robert! Ed Reggi

Name:
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: earth citizen
Time: 2000-10-27 02:16:07
Comments: Glad to see you are taking on Organic milk producers next. Did anyone catch last issue of organic gardening? They should call it Organic Husbandry. They are pushing so much the meat & dairy industry? I know, from inside information that, Maria Rodale is real tight with those dairy farmers. I wish she would just stick to vegtables, & forget the other agendas. She is trying to make organic meat & dairy seem like health food. They are almost as devastating to our health, and equally harmful to our environment, just one small step less toxic...Did you catch their first issue of their new Organic Life style magazine, pushing MILK, etc. I really like the magazine & wish they would stick to the green stuff. Why not an article about calcium from greens?...While i'm rolling i think i will write to protest..When are they scheduled to take the BGH off the market? Will they issue you an apology, & maybe some compensation? Glad to see the journalists won their battle, against Monsanto. I have to visit more often, I see lots is happening, good luck & keep up the excellent work. No name this time, it would give away my insider source....but i'm a regular...

Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-10-26 21:59:49
Comments: Who are you all trying to fool anyway? Teenage girls who think "milk is bad because this suit-and-tie-guy tells us it is"? Really! I read your some of your arrticles on zits and their ties with dairy consumption and the connetion between the two is a mere grasp at straws. You say somatic cells are actually "pus" cells. Then you inturn call milk "pus". Somatic cells are by definition any of the body cells other than germ cells. It's a general term! Humans have millions of somatic cells in their body at all times, be them milk drinkers or asetic vegans. The somatic cells from milk are not LIMITED to milk. They are in every living creature. They are not just "pus" as you so put it. Zits are not caused form dairy consumption-that is an out right untruth. Zits are caused by infections of sebecus glands in the skin that produce sebecum, or as you say "pus". Also, you are quoted as saying "mucus and phlegm are produced as a result of cheese consumption". Mucus is produced by the body naturally as a means of natural body function. Your implying that if you stop eating cheese then mucus is not produced by the body which is outright blasphmey. Instead of reporting information in a way that it "just sounds good", why don't you all report everything in a way that it really is. Oh, but that might not make "facts" correlate to your cause.--The Milkman

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Clint,

Every dairy farmer in America is aware of the phrase:

"Somatic Cell Count." The abbreviated form is "SCC"

Farmers are paid a premium for milk with a low SCC. Milk with a SCC exceeding 750 cannot legally be sold. That would represent 750,000 cells per milliliter of liquid milk, or 750 million cells per liter.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mr. Scott
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: U of M Twin Cities
Time: 2000-10-23 13:48:49
Comments: Mr. Cohen, You are not qualified to corrupt the American Public in the way that you do. I myself started working with cows at a very young age (six years old). I can say that every farmer strives to keep their cows as clean and comfortable as possible. I Must admit you are doing well with your fad. And hopefully like all other Fads your's dies soon. Thank you

Pity your mind is already made up and you chose not to
read anything... or verify our information (that comes from
a wide variety of resources, including the government and
the dairy folks).

Getting better, or even well ... for FREE, is sort of a "fad",
isn't it. However... I am convinced the truth is here to stay!
Regards... Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: robert gingras
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: cocoa, florida
Time: 2000-10-22 20:20:38
Comments: i heard about this from jerry & pen and went to your seminar today in cocoa beach,,,i must say i was pleasantly impressed, and will never look at dairy products the same way again, esspecially milk. i went shopping with my wife afterward at publix and saw a friend, i was telling her about my experience, and another person wanted to hear more, so i directed him here to your web page,,,my heart and my prayers go with you always, thanks, robert

Name: joe calabresi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: boston
Time: 2000-10-20 09:39:23
Comments: bravo!-- convert the dairy industry into something useful

Name: Karen Larsen
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: CA
Time: 2000-10-18 01:21:22
Comments: I think your website is great. I stopped using dairy products once I found out the real truth about the industry and how detremental it is for your health. Thank You for a wonderful resource to refer to and send to people I know.

Name: Jamie Lynn Gooley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 2000-10-17 14:08:31
Comments: I think there are a lot of great tools and info on your web-site. I think there should be a bigger section on what to so about the problem and how to live a milk free life.

Name: Kinsey Hayman
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Idaho
Time: 2000-10-17 11:33:21
Comments: Wow this site is so full of wonderful information I wish my health teacher would update his lectures. Right now he lecutures the importance of getting your "3 glasses of milk a day". He needs to do some research.

Name: Allison
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-10-15 17:45:10
Comments: Thanks for easing my doubts about not drinking milk. You have made the choice a much easier one!

Name: Beverly Benchoff
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Houston, Texas
Time: 2000-10-14 23:31:12
Comments: This is a great site. I'm glad I found it. I like all of the comments I'm reading. It would be nice to know who's single and looking to meet someone vegetarian and compatible. You should think about some type of introduction or dating service.

Name: Hedda Schmutz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-10-14 10:07:40
Comments: Thank you for doing this. Have you had repercussions form the dairy industry?

Name: Suzanne
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Kansas City, MO
Time: 2000-10-14 09:38:01
Comments: Enjoy your site and am amazed by your passion. I am one of the few registered dietitians who believes meat and dairy are not worthy of the "food pyramid". I am currently working on my master's degree in nutrition and am amazed by the bias from some of my professors. I speak my mind in class and everyone looks at me as if I am from Mars (I really am). I plan to one day teach at the university level and educate future dietitians about the politics of food. I am married with 3 children who are being raised vegan. Thanks

Name: Clint McCoy
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Time: 2000-10-12 01:10:53
Comments: Really, you "people" crack me up. As of the last few weeks, I have been busting my butt studying for my admittance into veterinary college. As I stand now, I can say that I am shocked! Your "scientific" studies still have not improved since the last time I visited your site. One of your articles sited hairy heel warts as causing disease in humans and great comfort in cattle. WRONG! Hairy heel warts are strictly a Bovine METABOLIC disease and they have no effect on milk production at all. If you people knew anything about laction biology you would never print this slandor. And your facts about mastitis and 5% of all on farm cows have mastitis-they are true! Congrats!! You just found out what all dairy farmers know anyway! Mastitis is a disease brought on by infection of the mamarry glands of a dairy cow. Mastitis does not come from milk production, it comes from bacterial infection of a cow's mammary system from the outside environment namely Streph and Staph. Both of these are treated readily on farm and are very common occurances. And lung worms in humans???? Give me a freaking break! They don't even occur in cattle on a clinical basis! How can they then be passed to the milk supply?? Even if they did occur readily in cattle, the lungs have no effect on lactation other than supply of oxygen to the system. I also read your "study" of diabeatis. Basically, IDDM(insulin dependent diebeatitis meteritis) is caused by a decrease in beta-cell function in the pancreas. The beta cell cannot produce enough insulin to support normal bodily function! How can you blame that on MILK??? YOU CANNOT!! And Type II diabatis is caused by what I tend to call "big person's disease".. In other words, being fat caused a lowered sensitivity to insulin from the pancreas. Being "BIG" causes the body's pancreas to ignore the intake of carbohydrates. In general, fat people, for lack of a better term, have no significant raise in NIDDM than do "slim people". That is nothing to do with MILK product consumption!! Fat people just don't get that way from consuming milk products!!! Its called lack of exercise and family history of obesity!! And, like I have said before, its called brainwash from scare groups like you folks that try to undermine the deeply rooted American Dairy Industry.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

One wonders why somebody who already "knows it all" has to "bust his butt" studying as you admit you do.

You miss the point of my LUNG WORM column. I merely reviewed the ads contained in HOARD'S DAIRYMAN. There are hundreds of bovine diseases I could have reviewed. If companies advertise their products, one must assume that animals have the diseases.

BOTTOM LINE Humans drink body fluids from diseased animals in the name of good health. Those body fluids can contain PRIONS (the cause of mad cow disease), bovine leukemia virus (which passes to other species), bovine immunodeficiency virus, paratuberculosis (irritable bowel syndrome and Crohn's).

One day you may learn a little more than you wish to admit to in vet school. Although Staphlococcus Aureus is killed by pasteruization, the toxin it secretes into milk is not. You may learn that listeria lives in cheese for up to six months, and takes up to 45 days to culture in the human body before the first symptoms (vomiting, diarrhea, high temperature) are observed.

The idea of eating the lung worm-infected flesh from animals is offensive to most people, Clint. That tickle in one's chest...that permanent cough may very well be caused by a wiggly friend.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Haseena Napier
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From: Sioux City (at the moment)
Time: 2000-10-11 10:16:33
Comments: I am a Midwestern women who has always seen something wrong with humans attitudes towards animals and the idea of using them, for any thing. At this point in time, we as humans have the ability to survive on this earth with out harming other beings. It seems illogical to me (and barbaric) to continue to use animals for our cloths, food, pleasure and humor (as with circuses and zoos). I try not to judge other people for their decisions. No one is going to change through my anger and disgust. We each have the responsibility to educate ourselves and not take the word of industries that are suppose to protect us, like the FDA. The next step is to lovingly and gently teach those around us the things we have learned. I think I can change the world, and that is where it starts, with me.

Name: Joni Walkingstick
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From: Texas
Time: 2000-10-11 03:26:11
Comments: Love your site. I just turned vegan, and your site only reinforces my reasons why. Thank you so much for all your efforts and for being involved in such an important cause!

Name: Ian
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From: Austin, TX
Time: 2000-10-10 03:42:18
Comments: I just read the recent e-mail about crossing human and pig DNA. Perhaps for Episode 3 of the Star Wars saga scientists will genetically engineer alien creatures instead of having to CGI them!

Name: Scott Dunkle Sr.
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From: Portland, Or.
Time: 2000-10-10 03:08:11
Comments: Caught you on Mary Staret's radio talk show in Portland, Or. KPDQ 800AM Good job with your choice of "Notmilk.com". You have one of the few URL's I've been able to remember while I listen during my work day and certainly one of the best. The opening page is very good too. Clean and concise and quick. Thanks!

Name: Staci
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From: Indiana
Time: 2000-10-09 14:36:57
Comments: Wow. My life has changed since first being introduced to your site. We now are a completely vegan family thanks mostly to YOUR influence. Thank you for providing this accurate information for concerned people today. I know it must seem futile at times, but please press on. =0) I am grateful, as are my children, for your efforts.

Name: Teri Lioi
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From: Florida
Time: 2000-10-09 10:55:44
Comments: Bravo to you and yours. I have been a vegan for over a year. Thanks, to you and EarthSave. My soul even speaks louder and I feel fantastic. Lost 20 lbs. as an added bonus. Thanks for doing what you do! TGL

Name: Tracie Johnson
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From: Detroit
Time: 2000-10-09 10:20:30
Comments: Carnivores eat strictly meat, so they depend on other animals for nutrition. Carnivores have teeth also to be able to rip open flesh. Herbivores make their own food from water and sunlight, so they don't have to eat another plant to get nutrition because they make it themselves. No, our bodies were not built to eat meat. The original food was raw fruits and vegetables. We can't eliminate meat correctly because it takes too long to digest. Because it's foreign to the body. It has no nutrition.

Name: G. Ray Welz
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From: Shafter, CA
Time: 2000-10-09 00:51:28
Comments: You certainly have some very educated viewers/readers. Impressive responses to your question, and from all over the world. I believe that man is both a herbivore and a carnivore. Without checking my textbooks omnivore comes mind. Depending on the refinement of the individual the extent to which one can tolerate foods with prior trial differs greatly. Probably the more important question is how is the physical activity. The more I read the less I know, but I do know that without proper rest and exercise no matter what your diet consists of you are probably not healthy. Man does have incisors which could be considered by one of your winners to be a predator feature. Keep up the good work.

Name: Carol
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From: denver
Time: 2000-10-09 00:44:36
Comments: I adore your site! I have learned sooo much from this site and so many books. I just wish that my friend would come to this site. Her and her family eat meat and dairy products at EVERY meal And her mom doesn't believe anything that i tell her even with the facts. I know that I can't tell people how to live their lives I just wish that they would listen. And thank you again!!!!

Name: Vicki Cosio
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From: California
Time: 2000-10-08 23:17:07
Comments: Herbivore: eats a plants based diet (only), doesn't cause any animal suffering, and doesn't harm the environment! A compassionate individual! Carnivore: eats animal flesh, contributes to the pain and suffering of billions of animals, and causes much harm to the environment! Destroys the rain forest with their hamburgers (55 acres per hamburger). The human body is not meant to digest meat. It takes 5 days for meat to pass through the colon!

Name: Jan Jenson
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From: Statesville, NC
Time: 2000-10-08 22:56:24
Comments: I eagerly read ALL your emails - and often send them on to anywhere from two to 100's of friends, depending upon your subject matter. I don't care if they subscribe for themselves - I BELIEVE in your mission and have added it to mine - which is helping others improve their health. Knowledge is the key. You never know what will trip someone's trigger - and they will join our mission!

Name: Angela
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From: Buffalo NY
Time: 2000-10-08 22:27:49
Comments: Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" No. Actually the human body evolved eating plants. Vegetables, fruits, nuts.

Name: Don Mossman
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From: Ohio
Time: 2000-10-08 19:39:48
Comments: Thank you for all that you do. I would pity anyone who had to debate you in support of humans consuming dairy products. I am glad you are there! Maybe the dairy monster can be dismantled one customer at a time! Peace, etc, Don Mossman

Name: Kathy Stranc
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From: Utah
Time: 2000-10-08 19:20:21
Comments: Does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" In the book, Diet for a New America, John Robbins goes into depth explaining the difference between the digestion for a carnivore and a human, which he stipulates is an herbivore. First, the bowels are strikingly different. A carnivore has smooth stovepipe shaped bowels, while humans, who are designed to eat veggies, have puckering and pouching. Food goes through the carnivore's system faster. In our bowels, food can get caught in the pouches and putrefy. Fiber keeps the food moving. There is no fiber in meat. Fiber is in fruits and vegetables, beans and grains. Statistics clearly show that the more meat and the less fiber we humans eat, the more likely we are to get colon cancer, while eating meat does not bother dogs and cats at all. My dogs gets sick if he eats too much fruits and vegetables, and he will throw them up. In fact, dogs and other carnivores eat grass to clean out their stomachs. Anyone with a cat or dog has seen them do this.

Name: Peter Fulda
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From: Novi, MI
Time: 2000-10-08 12:22:42
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

1. A predator’s teeth are long, sharp and pointed. These are tools that are useful for the task of piercing into flesh. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's teeth are not pointed, but flat edged. These are useful tools for biting and sectioning.

2. A predator’s jaws move up and down, not sideways. These are tools that are useful for the tasks of ripping and tearing flesh for ingestion. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's jaws move up and down, and especially, sideways. These are tools that are useful for the tasks of crushing, grinding and chewing grains and high fiber foods. Animal flesh cannot be crushed, ground and chewed with the tools Mother Nature gave man without some degenerating process such as cooking or frying.

3. A predator’s saliva is highly acid and geared for the process of digesting animal protein. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's saliva is alkaline, geared for the process of digesting starches.

4. A predator’s stomach secretes digestive enzymes with ~10 times the amount of hydrochloric acid than a stomach such as man’s or any other plant eater's does. Hence, man must prepare his meats with laborious cooking or frying methods. E coli bacteria, salmonella, campylobacter, trichina worms [parasites] or other pathogens wouldn’t survive in the stomach of a lion.

5. A predator’s small intestine is perhaps three times the length of its trunk. This is a tool designed for rapid expulsion of food that rots quickly. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's small intestines are perhaps twelve times the length of its trunk, and winds itself back and forth in random directions. This is a tool designed for keeping food in it for long enough periods of time so that all the valuable nutrients and minerals can be extracted from it before it enters the large intestine.

6. A predator’s large intestine is a relatively short pipe. This passage is relatively smooth and runs fairly straight so that fatty wastes high in cholesterol can easily slide out before they start to putrefy. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's large intestines, or colons, is a puckered, baggy apparatus that runs in three directions [ascending, traversing and descending], designed to hold wastes that originally were foods high in water content. This is so that the fluids can be extracted from these wastes, now that all the useful nutrients and minerals have been extracted and the long journey through the small intestine is over. Substances high in fat and cholesterol that have been putrefying for hours during their long stay in the small intestine tend to get stuck in the pockets that line the large intestine. Instead of getting moisture to suck up, these little pockets get smothered by that slimy goo, turning the colon into a toxic dump site within the human body.

7. Animal flesh, composed of the most highly complex type of protein that exists, requires vast amounts of uric acid to process. Uric acid is released into the system in amounts necessary to break proteins down into amino acids. Uric acid, is a toxic substance responsible for the aging process must be flushed out and dealt with. That is one of the jobs of the liver. In relative terms, a predator’s liver is a tool designed with the capacity to eliminate ten times as much uric acid as the liver of man or that or other plant eater.

8. A predator has a gait, large paws and claws which enable him to hunt, chase and trap his prey. These are tools meant to kill. Man’s gait, as well as other plant eater’s is designed only for mobility. Examine your hand, fingers and fingernails. Is this an apparatus properly designed for catching, trapping, killing and ripping apart cattle, hogs, chicken and fish? How does this work for picking fruit from trees or harvesting vegetables. The foods your hands were meant to gather are typically high in water content, high also in fiber to sweep the wastes out of those intestines and collectively contain every vitamin and mineral necessary to sustain human life.

9. A predator’s frame of mind is totally geared for hunting and killing. Man's frame of mind that is compassionate, friendly and reveres life. When the lion spots another furry animal, something might instinctively click in his head that tells him to hurry up and get dinner. When man spots a furry animal, rather than show his children how to take its life and eat it, a more likely instinct is to pull out the camera to take a picture.

10. Man is not a natural hunter. Every predator, in order to go hunting, MUST be hungry. Man cannot go hunting if he is hungry, he must have a meal first. Hunger must precede a predator to go hunting. Hunger must follow man's desire to go hunting, it cannot precede it.


Name: Howard Jones
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From: SLC, UT
Time: 2000-10-08 11:20:02
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

In humans, the length of time the waste stays in the bowel seems to be a causitive factor for colon cancer. High fiber diets protect against colon cancer. Without fiber, the waste material remains in the colon longer, giving the bowel wall more time to absorb toxins. Fiber also aids in flushing out cacinogens. Meat digestion produces a lot of acids in the bowel. One of these is deoxycholic acid which becomes carcinogenic in the digestion process. Meat eaters have a much greater amount of this acid, in the bowel, than do vegetarians. So, human intestines have difficulty dealing with the high fat and low fiber, and are designed very differently from carnivores like cats and dogs. These animals have intestines which allow for much quicker passage of waste through the intestines. Human bowels are long and wind back and forth whereas carnivore bowels are smooth and short for quick elimination of waste. Carnivores therefore are not subject to colon cancer as are humans.

Name: Sonia
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From: Canada
Time: 2000-10-08 11:16:18
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

This pasage is taken from David Wolfe's Sunfood Diet Success System, pages 439 to 441, 1999. ((the information below answers the question on the physiology of carnivores and herbivores - although I personnally believe humans to be primarily fruitarians)) "Carnivore Teeth are long, sharp and pointed. No flat molar teeth. Sharp canine teeth. To facilitate tearing and biting, jaw can move up and down (vertically). No lip or pouchy cheek structure. Shape of the face allows the carnivore to dig into a carcass and rip out the entrails. Forward facing eyes: binocular vision. Drinks water by lifting it into the throat with the tongue. Tongue is rough and thin. Zonary placenta. Intestines are three times as long as the trunk of the body; their design facilitates rapid explusion of fleshy matter. Liver contains uricase, an enzymes used to break down uric acid; it breaks down 10 to 15 times as much uric acid as an herbivore. Bowel are smooth and short for quick explusion of waste matter. Digestive system has the capacity to expel amounts of foreign cholesterol. Saliva is acidic. Blood is acidic. Urine is acidic. Cools itself primarily through action of the tongue and mouth (panting). All four feet are clawed (to rip into flesh). Herbivore Front and canine teeth may be sharp or pointed. Back teeth are flattened for grinding. To facilitate the grinding of vegetable foods, jaw can move both up and down (vertically) and side to side (horizontally). Adaptable lip and pouchy cheek structure. Shape of the face allows animal to pull vegetation off the plants. Herbivores with predators: radial eyeset allowing for wide field of vision. Herbivores without predators: forward facing eyes; binocular vision. Drinks water by suction. Tongue is smooth and thick to manipulate vegetable matter into the back molars for grinding. Placenta non-deciduate. Intestines are at least 8 to 12 times as long as the trunk of the body; they are designed for extracting all nutrients from fiber plant. Liver has a low tolerance for uric acid. Bowels are sulcified and complex for the reconstitution of waste matter. Digestive system has no capacity to expel foreign choleterol. Saliva is alkaline; it contains enzymes specifically designed to break down starchy carbohydrates. Blood is alkaline. Urine is alkaline. Cools itself primarily through perspiration. All four feet are hoofed (cloven) or hands and feet contain individual digits (fingers or toes) with nails."

Name: RB Baker
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From: Culpeper VA
Time: 2000-10-08 10:37:22
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Regarding humans and consumption of both vegetable matter and meats: First- The teeth of land dwelling meat eaters are typically sharp, with incisors designed to cut meat easily. (I will use cats as my example here.) Cats typically do not chew their food well, but rather cut of a hunk of meat, and swallow it whole. The teeth of plant eaters are more typically blunt, even the front teeth. They are designed for grinding and pulverizing vegetable matter. This leads to the next part of the meat vs. plant question- the length of the intestines. In creatures that are strictly meat-eater, such as cats, the intestines are relatively short. (Cats just bite and swallow.) Animals that eat plant material have much longer intestines. They chew their food more completely, using the previously mentioned flat molars. The food they eat remains in the digestive track longer, allowing the more complete digestion needed. Ever notice what a cat does do "clean out" its stomach? It eats grass- and soon vomits it. The final point here deals with populations of differing animals. Those that typically have a stabile exisistence, will have less offspring. Horses and people usually have one offspring at a time. The food supply (vegetable matter) is constant, being all around us. Cats however, are more dependant on availablilty of meat, and have to have more offspring to offset changes in the food supply and insure survival. (Population is not solely determined by food, but there is a strong connection.) Human teeth include both incisors and molars. Our incisors are not pronounced, whereas we do have an extensive set of molars for plant material. This indicates we can eat both meat and plant, but are more readliy adapted for plant consumption. Our intestines are moderately long, indicating again that a plant-eating diet for humans is better, if not necessarily exclusive of meat. The offspring of humans again suggests that we are more stable, which is due in part to the supply of vegetable matter that is available on a relatively consistent basis. So the fact that we can get sustainence from many foods needs to be considered in the following light- the tropic (food) pyramid suggests that only one-tenth of the total energy of the previous level is transferred to the next level. This means that is takes ten times the amount of energy to sustain each level up on the pyramid. So those at the top of the pyramid, receive very little energy from those that are below. But we do get all the dioxines, chemicals and other materials that that were consumed by these animals, which never leave the flesh that we consume. So why not go to the source of the energy that all first level consumers (plant-eaters) go- the plant kingdom? You'll feel better, decrease the levels of concentrated chemicals consumed, give your digestive track a break, increase fiber consumption, and probably lose weight in the process. If you're human - eat vegetables!

Name: Kraeg
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Time: 2000-10-08 09:57:37
Comments: Response to 1938:
Quoting; "You have to have some sort of problem with your body (or something) so you can't drink milk."

I sure do..... I'm a Human, not a Calf.

Name: Brandon Reyes
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From: San Jose CA
Time: 2000-10-08 02:14:13
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

MEATEATERS:has claws. HERBIVORES (MAN):no claws MEATEATERS:no skin pores, perspires through tongue HERBIVORES(MAN):perspires through skin pores MEATEATERS:sharp front teeth for tearing. no flat molar teeth for grinding HERBIVORES (MAN):no sharp front teeth has flat rear molars MEATEATERS:intestinal tract 3 times body length so rapidly decaying meat can pass out quickly HERBIVORES(MAN):intestinal tract 10-12 times body length MEATEATERS:strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat HERBIVORES(MAN):stomach acid 20 times strong than meateater Why should we eat anything excreted from any living thing.

Name: Terri Cosgriff
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From: Ohio
Time: 2000-10-08 01:33:18
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

A carnivore has sharp pointy teeth and claws used for ripping into flesh, and also short intestines. A herbivore has just the opposite, smooth teeth for grinding and chewing, and a much longer intestines.

Name: K. C.Ward
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From: Modeswto, CA
Time: 2000-10-08 01:00:42
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

The digestive system of a sheep is many times the length of the animal. The digestive system of a cat is only one nad half the length of the animal.

Name: mike
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From: Minnesota
Time: 2000-10-08 00:14:49
Comments: thanks for all the info. I gave up eating meat seriously about a year and a half ago, and basically haven't eaten any meat in almost a year. I know a lot of the reasons to give up dairy, and I know meat is not good for you, but I was unsure exactly of why. I gave it up to avoid illness and disease, it's a bummer that it usually takes a health emergency for someone to eat right in america.

Name: Lee Steiner
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From: Dallas
Time: 2000-10-07 23:16:12
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

It was asked if humans are carnivores?and how could we tell??Let's take a quick look at the physical differences between carnivores and herbivores....Carnivores-very short intestines, meat quickly enters and exits body, so fermentation due to time in passing doesn't occur. Human intestines: EXTREMELY long. Can take up to 5 days for meat to travel thru. Hmmm.....results??P.U.!! Carnivores-pointy teeth, for ripping and tearing meat apart, the first part of digestion. Human teeth: flat, multi-surfaced, for grinding plants maybe?? Then we get to milk. Now, I realize that this is a NO MILK zone, but name another species that drinks milk, from a different species at all...then continue drinking the breast milk of a different species thru-out it's entire life, well into adulthood??None. I wonder why? Is it so difficult to see that it must not be to our benefit to drink cross-species mammary liquid?Ugh !! Well, I hope that this covers the question, but if you feel I need to elaborate, there are thousands of reasons man should not eat things that have a face. Thanks for letting me sound off !!

Name: Michele Miller
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From: Baltimore
Time: 2000-10-07 22:45:53
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

While the human body can TOLERATE a lot of "crap" we may put into it, a quick look across the animal kingdom shows that we were not physically designed to be carnivores. Like all other animal herbivores, human beings have a long digestive tract, very long! This gives all those wonerful vitamins and minerals found in the plant based diet we should be eating, optimal time to penetrate into our systems and make all of our cells healthy and strong! Every known carnivore, however, has a very small digestive tract. This is important b/c a lot of the unnecessary waste and excess protetin consumed from the meat they eat need to get out of the animal's body ASAP!! The point is we have long digestive tracts like all other Herbivores, not short ones like carnivores! And that's enough for me. Ask my anatomy and physiology professor how important the roles of the digestive tracts are to all walks of LIFE. Humans can eat paper and not die (at least not right a way) from it, but that doesn't mean it's good for us. The same is true about meat, just b/c we don't get sick immediately or die immediately from it does not mean it won't kill us!! Boy I've been wishing and wishing and wishing for a copy of that Book, :o)

Name: Carolyn Marchand
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From: Michigan
Time: 2000-10-07 19:58:11
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Was man designed to eat meat? If you believe the Bible look at Genesis 1:27 and 29: So God created man in his own image...male and female created he them. ...And God said Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food. Or, look at medical statistics on the diseases already connected to diet: Heart problems, cancer, stroke, obesity, diabetes. Even the AMA and dieticians are beginning to "get it" and "talk the talk" but most are not "walking the walk" yet. Better general health and later onset of diseases are powerful arguments for vegan diets. Physical differences in herbivores and carnivores: the digestive tracts are different--herbivores have a longer tract than carvivores to digest all the nutrients and fiber in plant foods. Animal foods lack fiber and so need less length and time to digest.

Name: Kerrie Saunders, PhD
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From: USA
Time: 2000-10-07 19:54:21
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

There are many important differences between a carnivore and an herbivore. True carnivores have long 'i-teeth'("fangs") for tearing flesh off of bones, very short intestines so that the flesh doesn't rot, saliva and stomach acid which are very acidic when compared to herbivores, and they have predatory habits. Human 'carnivores' have tools to catch, cook, and eat flesh off of bones, and predatory habits. Unfortunately for human 'carnivores', they do not have saliva, intestines, teeth, or stomach acids to match these habits, and therefore are very diseased as a result. An herbivore, by contrast, has flat teeth, long intestines to handle (and need)plant fiber, and saliva and stomach acids that are more alkaline when compared to true carnivores. Herbivores do not prey on any species with a central nervous system or face.

Name: Mark Simon
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Time: 2000-10-07 18:57:12
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Humans are herbivores. Our teeth, saliva and digestive tract are most suitable for the assimilation of nutrients from fruits, nuts, seeds, herbs and tubers. Our closest evolutionary cousins are primates which are primarily herbivorous. The human digestive system is not well suited for the digestion of coooked aninal protein, refined foods, dairy products, all beverages, artifical colors and flavors and preservatives. The more one deviates from tbe basic principles human nutrition, the more one will suffer from cancer, heart disease, arthritis, premature aging, ED, liver and kidney disease, etc.

Name: E.M.Cinelli
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From: 176 Chung Cheng Road, Pai-Ho City 732, Tainan Hsien,Taiwan, R.O.C.
Time: 2000-10-07 18:42:41
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

In the evolutionary process of man, today`s scientists are at odds about whether Man is a Herbivore or a Carnivore.

In my view Man has deviated from his Natural development as a Herbivore, which means an eater of vegetables, fruits, nuts and berries, and has become a Carnivore, which means an eater of animals, insects, fowl or fish or Omnivore (both Herbivore and Carnivore), out of convenience, custom or tradition, mixed with a lack of understanding of the human body so prevalent in Western societies.

1. It seems that Man`s teeth give a very good clue that he should be a Herbivore because the teeth are not designed to tear open the flesh of living animals but rather to grind sideways to be able to properly assimilate vegetarian food in take, such as nuts, cereals and fruits and vegetables, while flesh eating animals have an "up & down" movement of the jaws, with teeth designed to rip and tear.

2. Another clue seems to be the fact that Man`s intestines are long, about 42 feet, and take over 72 to 96 hours to digest flesh, while only about 16 hours to digest vegetation. This compares well with other" closely related vegetarian primates" in terms of quick digestion. Flesh eating animals usually have shorter intestines, about six feet,and take only 6 hours in order to move through and assimilate the meat quickly. The Human intestines do not seem to be meant to digest meat, since the longer time in the intestines lead to conditions which breed bacteria, viruses and parasites, at the expense of the host (the Human Carnivore),

3. A third reason is the fact that Vegetarian seem to live longer than meat eaters, as reported in many journals citing a Seventh Day Adventist study where it was ascertained that the Seventh Day Adventist lived on the whole at least 7 years longer than meat eaters in the USA. Now many scientific studies are noticing that vegetarians heal faster than meateaters, and that they suffer less life threatening diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson`s, cancer etc., than meateaters. As an example, the great healer,Dr Johanna Budwig,puts her near death patients on a completely vegetarian diet as a strict regimen because the body can assimilate that kind of food better.

4. Lastly, vegetarian fare has live much needed enzymes when eaten raw (or not over cooked) while meat is loaded with animal diseases, including viruses, parasites, bacteria, along with the "dead spirit of animals" that knowingly died horrible deaths, as the Ancients Wisemen knew, Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato and a host of other Western philosophers were vegetarian, as were/are many Eastern philosophers and "Holy men."

These are some quick, "off the top of the head" reasons or notions, why I feel that Man was meant to be a Herbivore and not a Carnivore. Is it any wonder why so many people are afflicted with life threatening diseases brought about in the main by a poor choice of food? The old adage, "We are what we eat", should be amended to say ," We are what we assimilate" and when that comes from flesh, it is easy to understand why Man is lucky to live "three score and ten" rather than enjoy a longer and healthier life.

One doesn`t have to be a renowned scientist to understand these simple notions, because many people in remote areas of the world still live this way. In fact,it may come as a shock to many people, but most of the world is still vegetarian! Good luck and good eating!

E.M. "Mike' Cinelli


Name: Diane Moreton
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From: Mars
Time: 2000-10-07 18:07:18
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

"Does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Answer: The difference between a herbivore and carnivore is the length of incisors. No, just kidding! Actually there is such a difference, that a human being, being enticed by the taste of animal flesh, is putting himself/ herself at enormous risk of bad health in the form of heart disease and other chronic diseases that typically develop later in a person's life, due to the enormous quantities of saturated fat and cholesterol of others' they consume. Yes, this is quite tempting. I still don't know why God could make such a blunder. Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" Since the length of the lower intestine is several feet shorter than an actual carnivore's, I highly suspect not. If the human body were ever designed to eat other sentient beings, than why not just eat humans? Maybe they taste better than chicken! The Creator gave us plant-based food to keep up healthy and wise, and animal-based 'food' to prove the stupidity of Man.

Name: Gordon W. Watts
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From: Tallahassee
Time: 2000-10-07 17:22:20
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Dear friends, Letter # 1943 (Mike from Minnesota in my NOTMILK guestbook asked: "Does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" I will send a FREE BOOK and TAPE (MILK-The Deadly Poison) to the best response posted to my guestbook in the next 24 hours. (Robert, here is my answer. -Gordon) My Answer: (Credit for most, but not all, of this info below goes to Dr. Wayne "The Mango Man" Pickering, whose chart helped me here.) While carnivores (like dogs & wolves) have a short bowel to expel the putrid flesh, our ailamentry canal is long to give good digestion to the plant nutrients, which need slow digestion, breakdown, and uptake. Our intestional bacteria is more like other herbivores' than meateaters'. We don't have fangs! Also, we can grind and mince our food (which carnivores can not do), both indicators of plant eaters. Flesh eaters sweat (like pigs) through their toungs, not their skin! Humans, monkeys, horses, antelopes, & cows sweat through the skin. Carnivores, like the dog, lap water, but humans & other herbivores suck when drinking their liquid! Humans and other plant eaters have ptyalin (also called amylase) in the saliva to begin starch breakdown of plants; meat eaters do not. Carnivores have a much larger liver than herbivores, including humans. Carnivores also produce about ten (10) times the Hydrochloric Acid for digestion of things like bones , meat, feathers, and sinew. Also, if we were truly meat eaters, then we would eat the whole animal RAW as do other flesh eaters, not just the COOKED muscle part, to disguise the taste of it being is DEAD MEAT! But, forget all that: Vegans live longer than vegetarians, who, in turn, live longer than meat-eaters; and fruis and veggies taste better, are less cruel to animals, and a more efficient use of the grain than feeding it to animals, who produce FAR LESS calories than were fed them, becasue a lot of the food fed to them turns into UNUSABLE grissle and bone and stuff. Thus, more hungry people can be fed DIRECTLY by plants than through animals who incur about a ninety-percent (90%) energy efficiency loss! But, reread that "taste better - live longer - peace of mind" stuff above. --Gordon

Name: Katarina Popovic
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From: CLeveland,OHio
Time: 2000-10-07 17:32:51
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

I would say that human beings are NOT designed to ingest animal products. If we were truly carnivores, like lions and tigers, why does the idea of killing animals disgust many of us? WHere is our killer instinct when we see a little rabbit hopping across the lawn? Why doesn't our instinct tell us to devour the little creature, capture it and eat it RAW? That is another problem. Human beings always seem to have to cook their meat and process their animal products. True carnivores don't inquire whether a roast should be cooked at 375 degrees and whether they should add salt or pepper. True carnivores also have sharp teeth ( for shredding and ripping ) and very aggressive natures. They also have CLAWS, and are very quick and agile. Shall we include insects that eat other insects? Ever notice what THEY look like? And the talons of a BIRD, which help it clutch on to hapless little insects or fish as it swoops down from the sky? And the vultures that use their beaks to rip into decaying flesh?. All of these characteristics are needed for HUNTING. Herbivores have flatter teeth and they also usually have hands ( like humans and chimpanzees ) or hoofs ( like giraffes and horses). They have softer natures and do not need to be aggressive because what is so hard about picking berries and grazing on grass? The intestinal tract of a carnivore is shorter than that of an herbivore ( we also have longer intestinal tracts ) and we also sweat, as opposed to their panting. Carnivores also manufacture their own vitamin C, while herbivores do not. The fact that there is too much protein in both milk and meat,which causes osteoporosis and other illnesses, should be evidence enough that we should not be eating these products. If these foods were made for us, why are they so detrimental to the body? Why will we get gout, diabetes, asthma, heart disease, fat, and other illnesses if it is so good for us? It just doesn't make any sense. Ninety percent of people in this planet are lactose intolerant, and the other ten percent just "tolerate" it! Why are we drinking milk? These foods are also extremely difficult to digest and can last hours in the stomach, causing people to feel sluggish and rundown. Vegetables and fruits are easily digestable and give us energy right away. And why do nuts and certain fruits contain a lot of fat? I really think because mother nature planned it that way. People complain, oh walnuts, etc., are so fatty, but for a species that was not made to rely on animals for food, these nuts provide the fat,protein and other substances we need and in just the right amounts too! One must look at all the evidence, not just the physical types of herbivore and carnivore, but the variety of food provided by nature, the lifestyle and habitats of certain creatures, etc., to see that we don't need these foods. And who knows, maybe after centuries of poor diet,maybe we have evolved genetic predispositions to certain illnesses?

Name: Barbara Langan
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From: NY
Time: 2000-10-07 17:02:08
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

I just posted a letter in response to the Herbivore/Carnicore inquiry. Here, I would like to comment that I read the NOTMILK information every day and find it quite interesting... Today, we are faced with many conditions that did not seem to exist (at least in such large numbers) years ago. I am referring, for example, to many more children diagnosed with ear infections, and asthma. Also noted are more cases of ADD and ADHD. I have wonderded if all the immunizations given to modern children were the culprit, along with too many antibiotics. Since getting tuned in to the NOTMILK group, and being more informed about hormones, antibiotics, etc. given to cows....well maybe that is the answer! Now think about the increased number of "newer" conditions such as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, yeast infections...to name but two. It does leave me wondering! While I have not had a glass of milk in 30 or so years, I do sometimes have cheese, so I am not a non-milk person per se. I will continue to read these articles with great interest (and take my calcium supplements!)

Name: Frances Bonner
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From: Ellisville, Missouri
Time: 2000-10-07 16:59:43
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

I think the difference in an herbivore and a carnivore is their teeth. A carnivore has fang-like teeth for tearing the flesh of their prey while an herbivore eats only plants and does not need fangs. Humans were not meant to eat meat so do not have the teeth of carnivores.

Name: Barbara Langan
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From: NY
Time: 2000-10-07 16:45:07
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

A herbivore is an animal that lives on plant matter for food. A carnivore consumes animal products. Humans are categorized as omnivores (eating both plants and animals.) Physically, the teeth are different for herbiovres and carnivores. There are also differences in the gastro-intestinal tract for the two groups, (including varied enzymes.) Based on both grinding teeth (molars) and canines and incisors, I would say that physically, man has adaptations for both plant and animal consumption. Man lacks the ability to digest the cellulose found in plants, so does not derive the same benefit from plants as grazing animals. Based on these few characteristics, (along with enzymes to digest animal products), I say the human body is designed to eat animal products.

Name: GymnAlice
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Time: 2000-10-07 15:26:32
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

There are several key differences between the bodies of herbivores and carnivores. I will compare my body with that of my dog as an example.

My dog has claws and fangs to hunt his prey and tear out its flesh and crunch on its bones.

I have nails that wouldn't do much damage to any cow or pig or chicken. I have teeth classified as "canines", but the truth of the matter is that they couldn't rip raw flesh off of bones and eat them.

My dog has a stomach designed for eating meat RAW. E. coli and other bacteria don't faze him in the slighest. His body is perfectly equipped to handle them.

I must cook meat thoroughly if I am going to eat it, or I run the risk of DYING from salmonella, e. coli, etc.

My dog's saliva digests meat, even "on it's way down". If you could train a dog to hold a piece of raw meat on his tongue, it would eventually break down.

My saliva does no such thing. If I put a piece of raw meat on my tongue, it would stay the same, until it eventually decayed. Contrast that with an apple, which if I kept in my mouth long enough would completely break down without chewing.

My dog's intestines are short and smooth, to elimate meat in a timely fashion. When I feed my dog raw meat, he will eliminate it within a day or so.

My intestines are a long and twisted maze. They are not smooth, they have ridges and folds. Decaying meat could get stuck in those ridges and cause me harm. My intestines are built for eating fibrous foods (animal foods have no fiber) which will "sweep" the intestines clean.

I feed my dog raw organic meat, for that is his biologically appropriate diet. I feed myself raw fruits and vegetables, and nuts and seeds, for that is my biologically appropriate diet.

Makes sense to me :)

Name: Craig
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Time: 2000-10-07 15:38:07
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Carnivores = sharp teeth for ripping and tearing Herbavores = dull flat teeth for grinding ( despite that human and carnivore teeth share some names, they are not alike at all) Carnivores = short funnel-like digestive tract for rapid transit time and rapid disposal of ingested toxins. Herbavores = long winding ribbed-like digestive tract with millions of places to trap non-fibrous material that rots and causes disease. Carnivores = non-opposable thumbs; can't hold tools, can't farm, eat what is instictive for them to eat. Herbavores = non-opposable thumbs; can't hold tools, can't farm, eat what is instictive for them to eat. Humans = opposable thumbs; can hold tools, can farm, eat what is taught to them to eat.

Name: marci mccray
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From: montana
Time: 2000-10-07 14:17:59
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

Hi There is a woman, an MD, who has done the research.. even biblical research, regarding humans and the subject of their carnivorous activity... It is, according to this very Knowledgeable woman doc, not natural. We were never meant to be meat eaters... you can check her info by logging on to: www.drday.com. She cured herself of cancer several years back and has much more info to share. Our bodies, teeth and intestinal works are not built to deal with meat, this is a biological fact, not just a preference. Check it out. Even if you don't care whether or not we are meant to eat meat, you should log on to Dr. Day's sight, she has a huge knowledge bank. Happy Eating and NotMilk drinking. Here's to your health!! Ciao. Marci

Name: DR EDWARD HARTMAN
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From: LEVITTOWN PA
Time: 2000-10-07 14:31:45
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

The following is what I use in my practice to demonstrate the comparisons between Carnivores, Herbivores, Omnivores, and Humans. If you would like a copy of a full article that explains this in more detail, The Comparative Anatomy of Eating by Milton R. Mills, M.D., just email me and I'll send it to you.

GENERAL SUMMARY

FACIAL MUSCLES

Carnivore: Reduced to allow wide mouth gape
Herbivore: Well-developed Omnivore Reduced Human Well-developed

JAW TYPE

Carnivore: Angle not expanded Herbivore Expanded angle
Omnivore: Angle not expanded Human Expanded angle

JAW JOINT LOCATION

Carnivore: On same plane as molar teeth Herbivore Above the plane of the molars
Omnivore: On same plane as molar teeth Human Above the plane of the molars

JAW MOTION

Carnivore: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
Herbivore: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
Omnivore: Shearing; minimal side-to-side
Human: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back

MAJOR JAW MUSCLES

Carnivore: Temporalis Herbivore Masseter and pterygoids
Omnivore: Temporalis Human Masseter and pterygoids

MOUTH OPENING vs. HEAD SIZE

Carnivore: Large
Herbivore: Small
Omnivore: Large
Human: Small

TEETH (Incisors)

Carnivore: Short and pointed
Herbivore: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
Omnivore: Short and pointed
Human: Broad, flattened and spade shaped

TEETH(Canines)

Carnivore: Long, sharp and curved
Herbivore: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
Omnivore: Long, sharp and curved
Human: Short and blunted

Teeth (Molars)

Carnivore: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
Herbivore: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
Omnivore: Sharp blades and/or flattened
Human: Flattened with nodular cusps

CHEWING

Carnivore: None; swallows food whole
Herbivore: Extensive chewing necessary
Omnivore: Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing
Human: Extensive chewing necessary

SALIVA) Carnivore: No digestive enzymes
Herbivore: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
Omnivore: No digestive enzymes
Human: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes

STOMACH TYPE

Carnivore: Simple
Herbivore: Simple or multiple chambers
Omnivore: Simple
Human: Simple

STOMACH ACTIVITY

Carnivore: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
Herbivore: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
Omnivore: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
Human: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach

STOMACH CAPACITY

Carnivore: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
Herbivore: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
Omnivore: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
Human: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract

LENGTH OF SMALL INTESTINE

Carnivore: 3 to 6 times body length
Herbivore: 10 to more than 12 times body length
Omnivore: 4 to 6 times body length
Human: 10 to 11 times body length

COLON

Carnivore: Simple, short and smooth
Herbivore: Long, complex; may be sacculated
Omnivore: Simple, short and smooth
Human: Long, sacculated Liver

VITAMIN A Carnivore: Can detoxify vitamin A
Herbivore: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
Omnivore: Can detoxify vitamin A
Human: Cannot detoxify vitamin A

KIDNEY

Carnivore: Extremely concentrated urine
Herbivore: Moderately concentrated urine
Omnivore: Extremely concentrated urine
Human: Moderately concentrated urine

NAILS

Carnivore: Sharp claws
Herbivore: Flattened nails or blunt hooves
Omnivore: Sharp claws
Human: Flattened nails


Name: Evelyn Blake
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Referred by: From a Friend
From: WV
Time: 2000-10-07 13:53:17
Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943)

A herbivore is a mammal that feeds on herbage. A carnivore is a flesh eater, devours animal substance. The only clean meat is what the Bible says to eat, but I eat very little animal meat!

Name: Noelle de Lioncourt
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From: Virginia
Time: 2000-10-07 10:04:32
Comments: I have been a vegetarian since age 10 (I am now 28), but I have recently gone vegan, because quite honestly, the horrors of dairy farms are even more hushed than the slaughterhouses. Luckily, people are finally realizing that consuming animal flesh is vile an unhealthy, but the dairy industry is still force feeding Americans the false pretense that you need calcium at all hours of the day and that pus-filled milk is the only way to get it!! What a shame, such lies.

Name: mike
Website:
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From: minnesota
Time: 2000-10-06 22:21:33
Comments: does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Is the human body designed to eat animal products?

Name: Eirik Pontious
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From: Arizona
Time: 2000-10-05 18:18:32
Comments: You people have problems. You quote the bible in your rambling emails, when the bible says that animals were put here for man's use. Do you know what happens to people who don't get enough clacium, they get osteoperosis, thats what. YOu know what forget about that, let me just say this, if you don't want to drink milk, thats fine. But don't preach to people who do about how horrible they are for drinking it. And another thing, i think those cows have a much better life than you think. They are fed, and sheltered, which is a lot more than what a lot of people get. why don't you turn your attention towards helping the homeless or something. Oh yeah one more thing, if you think cows are mistreated for their milk, you better stop eating vegetables to, because they too are confined in an area, given chemicals to make them grow bigger and better, and when they have outlived their usefullness, they are ripped from their home and slaughtered just so they can be eaten.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Biblical scholars agree that heaven on earth was located in the Garden of Eden. Genesis 1:29 reveals the ideal menu for man:

"I give you every seed-bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food."

I ask you to use your imagination, and visualize a judgement day audience with whomever might be your concept of God. At that one-on-one meeting, there is a buffet table. Do you imagine that there would be rare lambchops dripping with blood, and beef tongue sandwiches? How about pink veal, cut from a baby cow? How about arms and legs from freshly butchered chickens? Ever visit Chinatown? A Chinese God might even include the head. Don't forget to eat the eyes and face.

My concept of the last/first supper would include the bounty of those fresh fruits and seeds. There would be ripe dates and olives, corn and apples, bananas and the very ripest of pineapples and mangos. The meal would include walnuts and almonds, and dozens of sprouts. Edible flowers and ripe peas and beans.

Dine in heaven, my friend, and eat those fruits with the brightest of colors, and the sweetest of perfumes and bouquets. Reject the dead flesh, which contains those hormones secreted at the moment of a fearful and stressed death. Eat a diet of foods with life including fresh enzymes. Let the live food nourish your cells and spirit.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: LIL
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From:
Time: 2000-10-04 16:42:34
Comments: You know it's got to be risky to speak out on the Dairy industry and their high pressure sales...But somebody has to do it. Thanks for the alternative ideas. How can we empower farmers to return to the very small farm with integrity? Maybe we need to just get smaller and more inter-dependent with a little garden here and a little goat herd there and share the good of the land together. One things for certain, we need the Truth or we will have nothing to trust. And I know from experience that the animals in large dairies suffer from abuse!!!!

Name: Christina Laumbattus
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Time: 2000-10-04 11:08:20
Comments: This site was very interesting and helpful, but I would like to read about dairy and weightloss.

Name: Jennifer
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From: nj
Time: 2000-10-03 22:37:26
Comments: Thank you for an informative site. You have helped me make a great healthy decision for my family with the info you provided. I do find it funny how upset people get if you try to tell them that the milk they drink isn't a good as they have been told it is all their life.

Name: A Milk Drinker
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From: A Dairy Place
Time: 2000-10-03 16:34:36
Comments: Hello, I thinkt that whoever actually believes this stuff, you care crazy!!! You have to have some sort of problem with your body (or something) so you can't drink milk.

Name: Aimee
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From: San Jose, CA
Time: 2000-10-02 10:27:17
Comments: I have been coming to your web site for quite some time now (since I read your book), maybe two years, and I just wanted to say thanks. I learn something new with each visit and my committment to being vegan is renewed each time. I'm several months pregnant now and I LOVE telling people about my wonderful vegan pregnancy! Oh, the shock and horror I experience from people, but I'm spreading the NotMilk word!

Name: Jozi
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From: Florida, United States
Time: 2000-10-02 07:14:11
Comments: i was attracted by the titile of the webpage and i deciede to have a look at what's in here. I found the content and information useful and rather intersting but the graphics are rather offending. i do think that it's an insult to the milk industry. Afterall, milk has been a part of everyone's life for such a long time! Jozi

Name: Ray Mitchell
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From: Michigan
Time: 2000-10-01 13:08:20
Comments: It's very disturbing to realize that my cardiac transplant,as well as my stint with insulin dependence, was quite possibly due to consumption of dairy products. It really is deplorable that GREED endangers the world's populace. SHAME on the dairy producer and the politician for allowing their pursuit of personal gain to cause the dangers of dairy product consumption to be hidden from their potential victims.

Name: Sue
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From: Ontario, Canada
Time: 2000-10-01 07:03:28
Comments: I just want to say thank you for a wonderful site. I strongly believe that knowledge is power. By putting out this site and educating more people there is hope. They/we just have to open your eyes and see. Thanks, and I have sent out emails to everyone to check you out. I will be back.

Name: Nan
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From: Plymouth, Ma
Time: 2000-09-30 23:19:38
Comments: Mr Robert I really think that the National Dairy Association should paint that white lip on Marion Jones. This is the best way to promote the use of drugs, be it rBGH or steroids. Why not, she is in the company of another who could not perform in the Olympics, due to drug use. Ms Jones, she had to know of her husband's use. So she gets 5 medals, all not acceptable to me. Then she goes down in the record books for most medals. So let that National Dairy Association paint that lip, to insure the use of all drugs, be it steriods or rBGH.

Name: Susan Rudd
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From: Ft.Myers.FL
Time: 2000-09-30 15:04:16
Comments: Milk Doc (Robert Cohen) is a fabulous auther and researcher as well as a gift for this humanity! I LOVED the book.Milk the deadly poison, such a thriller designed to help combat mans inhumanity to man and animals! With a background in nursing and rehabilitation, I've often searched for dietary links to contamination from the environment to help patients with all types of physical challenges. I found the book in the library and wrote the author and he wrote me back telling me of the various websites. We can make a difference.

Name: Martha
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From: N.Y.
Time: 2000-09-29 17:43:11
Comments: Fanatics must stick together, and what a crew is gathered here! Rock on whackos!

Name: Paul Santos
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From: Toronto, Canada
Time: 2000-09-28 10:53:37
Comments: I think your web site is great. I have been off all dairy products for almost 1year and i've never felt better.

Name: richard dorn
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From: florida
Time: 2000-09-27 02:14:04
Comments: Mr.Cohen, I am a 36 year old male who has always led the typical american diet of meat and dairy. I stumbled upon your site about a week ago and can honestly say that my life has been changed. I have always been interested in learning about vegetarianism but felt like many veggies were extreme conspiracy-theory zealots. I just wanted you to know that your professionalism in presenting your well-researched and documented facts is greatly appreciated. It has not only opened my eyes but i am now dedicated to becoming a vegan from this point on in my life. It is nice to know that people such as yourself are fighting for our country and others as well. Please keep up the fight. I'll do my part on this end. Thanks so much, Richard Dorn

Name: Emily Dunne
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From: Central,CA
Time: 2000-09-26 17:35:38
Comments: About 3 months ago my dr told me I have low blood pressure, and my sugar was off on a GTT. She advised me to eat more meats and dairy. I now have acne, which I've not had in years, I also noticed I'm starting to look older, among some other things...no one in my family believes me when I say that it's makeing me feel terrible, (my family came over from England 40 yrs ago) and every meal is meat & dairy. I'm so glad I found this site it's really opened my eyes.. it makes me feel like I'm not crazy after all. This stuff really does stink...Thank you for the information, Emily

Name: Akili Nyakobabatu Ajala
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From: baltimore
Time: 2000-09-26 15:43:06
Comments: this is a great site well, well needed. I am a vegan, I just started a all raw diet and love it so far. Every year I do a fast anywhere between 7~ 40 day, and when I do this I normally take something out of my diet. This year I took out cooked foods. Please please don't ever get rid of this site. I just hope you can find lots of raw food recipes. thank you

Name: Rosalee
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From: Oregon
Time: 2000-09-23 21:17:22
Comments: I guess my father's comment that 'cow milk is for calves not human beings' was correct... ..(He was a member of FFA and did judging of dairy cows when he was in high school. .. .I guess he understood better than most people what cow milk is for!! Too bad it took me so long to apply his knowledge!

Name: Rosalee
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From: Oregon
Time: 2000-09-23 21:24:15
Comments: I just want to say that the switch from organic milk to organic soy has left me with so many changes that it is just unbelievable. It was hard at first because some of the soy products that I tried were not particularly palatable (I used soy instead of rice because I need the protein in soy. . rice has little in it)but I found 'WESTSOY 100% Organic' that I have come to ((((love)))) in tea, coffee, and my daily morning cafe latte with chocolate. . .a real treat! But more importantly I have noticed that I no longer have the terrible fluid retention that I had when I was using milk and many other things that I am convinced were caused by ingesting milk and products containing milk!

Name: Crissy Johnson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-09-23 10:29:00
Comments: I wanted to apologize to everyone who has read the horrible message that I sent. I read everything on Mr. Cohen web page and realized that he is against animal slaughtering and I too am against it and the only article I read made me feel like he was for animal slaying. I really do apologize. If anyone would like to e-mail me back may do so. I have personally apologized to Mr. Cohen himself. Thank You for you time, Crissy

Name: Adrian Mathews
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 2000-09-22 13:50:59
Comments: Thank You! for the data on the explosion of lymphatic cancer in the U.S. You have done a tremendous job. Do stop by and visit us and Sign our guestbook. I would like to exchange links with your site on my 2 sites that get quite a lot of traffic. Is drinking just weigh better? Please advise.

Name: Hank
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: stamford, CT
Time: 2000-09-22 00:02:06
Comments: Hey...... Mr. Cohen why does the government want to harm us? They create a type of paradox that inherently harms human beings, THEIR future offspring as well! Why do they keep secrets like the milk from the general public? Why can't they just stop harming human beings? Should we resort to anarchy? I'm trying to formulate a good thesis against milk for an essay. I can quote cool people like you =)

Name: Jodi Favata
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minnesota
Time: 2000-09-20 16:32:28
Comments: This is a very interesting site!

Name: Earl Dennis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Idaho
Time: 2000-09-20 15:39:39
Comments: Subject: Re: NOTMILK - - - LETTER FROM HEAVEN Add Addresses Dear Robert Cohen, I sent you an email simular to this last year. I am glad to see I am not the only crazy person to for go ritalin. My story is one of complete success. My son Aaron is now the top of his class. His mind is clear and his eyes are bright with the wonder of learning and living. He wants to be an engineer and build airplanes or space ships. With my success comes great saddness for the 3 million other children and the millions that went before doing the right thing and drinking their milk. Respectfully yours Earl of Idaho

Name: Mandy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 2000-09-20 01:31:49
Comments: Robert, I was watching something the other day about the rampant use of performance enhancing drugs among Olympic athletes. The name of one in particular really caught my attention: insulin-like growth factor! It's one of the many that are not detectable by the testing methods that are currently being used. If you're not onto this yet, just thought I'd send some ammo your way.

Name: russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-20 01:17:16
Comments: to mr. cohen ,and mr. reitz , I tink you both need to get help. i never realisied that their were people in this world quite like you .Get a life , do somthing better with your time , go cry to somone else about your problems,or find a real problem to cry about, you make me sick, excuse me i have to go barf now.

Dear Russell,

You posted a comment at the NOTMILK guestbook on September 6th, asking a question about a milk hormone, insulin-like growth favtor-I. (Guestbook letter #1889).

I see that you did not like the answer.

Milk also contains casomorphin, a morphine-type substance associated with attention deficit disorder and autism (according to Robert Cade, MD, University of Florida). One out of five children in America take RITALIN for this condition.

Your most recent letter makes it clear that you are not taking your medication, Russell. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tom Hall
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-19 18:18:31
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I thought you might get a kick out of these jokers with a dairy cow cam. This is the link, check it out if you have the time http://www.lancasterfarming.com/cowcam.html Keep up the good work. Maybe one day All americans will pull their heads out. Tom Hall

Name: DUDLEY LEWIS
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: California
Time: 2000-09-17 01:03:05
Comments: Thank You! for the recent data on the explosion of lymphatic cancer in the U.S. and the corresponding rise in enlarged lymphatic tissue in test rats that occurred in the trials of the rBGH. This is a smoking gun if there ever was one. I have copied the data to give to my clients and will pass it out at the world solidarity conference in Cuba when I go with a medical group in November. Thanks Again Dudley Lewis

Please see the correction to that article. Despite many levels of double-check the data was compromised by U.S. Government induced "clerical error".

     Please read Mr. Cohen's update on this issue at:

http://www.notmilk.com/lymph.html

     For a letter of apology by the culprits... please read the scanned letter at:

http://www.notmilk.com/graphics/dhhsadd2.gif

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Down Under
Time: 2000-09-16 07:19:46
Comments: If you're going to talk scare tactics and brainwash, then look at the Dairy Industry. They feed people not only Cow Milk, but also Bull Sh!t.

Name: JEFFREY A. MATNEY
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: NORTON, OHIO
Time: 2000-09-15 22:49:42
Comments: THIS IS VERY INFORMATIVE. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-15 13:03:29
Comments: BLIND FAITH? Blind faith in right wing groups like the "notmilk" champaign who uses poor science and scare tactics is not only questionable, its brainwash. REGUARDS-THE MILKMAN

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I have been accused of being a right winger, left winger, communist, Nazi, and capitalist pig. I've been called a male chauvinist and women's libber. I've been ridiculed as a know-nothing who never went to college, and been called a disbarred attorney, malpracticed physician, real estate developer, and failed dairy farmer.

While all of the above accusations are "perfectly true", why not focus upon the things I say and the science behind them. For centuries, critics have had to resort to attacking the messenger while ignoring the message. You are like many others who accuse me of using poor science, then fail to come up with just one example to substantiate your claim.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lori Gurule
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Denver
Time: 2000-09-14 22:30:19
Comments: I really am glad that someone is willing to expose the utter crap being handed to us by groups such as the FDA, Dairy Council, and the good old AMA, to mention only a few. Blind faith in these well known organizations is not only fool hardy, but down right dangerous. I really appreciated the 'Milk the Deadly Poisin' Book also. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!

Name: Be|a Lugosi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NC, USA
Time: 2000-09-14 12:40:33
Comments: I added a link to your page on my IRC channel site. I find your site amusing. The link is as follows: http://www.geocities.com/ncdalnet the link is under, links of course haha.. ciao

Name: Peter Phippen
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: New London, New Hampshire
Time: 2000-09-13 23:09:38
Comments: I am so grateful to receive the daily updates on the NOTMILK site, and the millenium message to the world regarding the census data and rBGH is literally earthshaking (that's the dairy industry, FDA and other Gov't slaves to Drug Companies rolling out the big artillery of BULLS__T). THe system does work, and we are all witnessing the unraveling of a very top -heavy and bloated relationship. Thank you US Census Bureau, and thank you Robert Cohen for persisting in your right fight. But I have one question, how can we get this news out to the general public? Robert, we need 60-Minutes and all the other news magazines to be fighting over who gets to air this journalistic bombshell of the century! There has got to be a way to get the story on major network news coverage. I am going to do my utmost to get the news out to my local papers and to contact these news organizations to get some stories flying in widely circulated arenas, where John Q. Public can get a gander at this stuff. When cancer talks people listen.

The Census Bureau got it wrong. Despite many safeguards
this massive error went unnoticed by all of them.

Please read their Letter of apology

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: sheldog
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: communist canada
Time: 2000-09-13 18:34:28
Comments: Eating dairy (like meat) should be a personal choice, and not one that is forced by scare tactics.

Presenting the consumer with the WHOLE truth about cow's milk and dairy is NOT telling them what to do. It is, simply put, giving them the level playing field they SHOULD be afforded by their government AND industry.

Would you call informing the public of polluted water a "scare tactic" or common sense?

If informing the public about tainted water IS simple common sense... then why is informing the public of polluted milk more than common sense?

Then, just like tobacco, another subsidized bad-news substance, the consumer can (and will) choose as they see fit.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Carolyn Parker
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-09-13 13:59:57
Comments: I am so happy that this was sent to me. I no longer eat dairy and i feel so much better. I am pretty sure that dairy was the biggest cause for me being over weight. I just look at ice cream, cheese, etc..... And get sick. Thank You for this wonderful web site!!

Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Palestine, IL
Time: 2000-09-13 00:07:44
Comments: LIES, LIES, all LIES! Whats the relationship between IGF-1 and bovine somatotrophin? Dosen't IGF-1 get digested in the human GI tract instead of absorbed as active IGF-1??????? IGF-1 does get digested! Animal science majors, text books, and professors of veterinary medicine cannot all be wrong!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Clint,

Either animal science majors, text books, and professors are wrong, or nursing mothers and pediatricians are wrong. You cannot have it both ways.

Does breastfeeding work? According to all that you learn in college, it cannot possibly work. In theory, lactoferrins and immunoglobulins must be destroyed in the nursing infant's tummy. There is of course, a flaw in your thinking and logic.

Breastfeeding does work! Children who are breastfed have higher IQ'S and greater immunological protection. These facts are not in dispute, having been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

Milk was designed to allow its components to survive digestion. Milk buffers gastric pH so that strong acids are diluted. Milk proteins such as casein protect the hormones from gastric degradation.

By homogenizing milk, mankind has improved upon nature's natural mechanism, and made milk an even more efficient and powerful hormonal delivery system. Tiny fat molecules resulting from homogenization (micronized liposomes) act as carriers for these protein hormones, and are small enough to bypass the gut intestinal wall where they are absorbed intact into the bloodstream.

BOTTOM LINE, Clint. Does brestfeeding work? If your answer is that it does, you must recognize that drinking cows milk is merely another form of breastfeeding. Those growth hormones survive digestion in your tummy too.

You and your professors need re-educating, and those textbooks will one day be re-written by somebody possessing greater wisdom than the present-day authors.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: R.Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-09-13 00:23:22
Comments: Dear Robert, As you prepared your manuscript for your book years ago and as we both worked to obtain copies of the Richard,Odaglia, Deslex Report from our respective governments, I remember you making a prediction about a dramatic increase in cancer forthcoming. The U.S. Census Bureau numbers now bear witness to your prediction.

Name: Ernest &amp; Debbie Hummel
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Auburn, Pa. 17922
Time: 2000-09-11 16:33:19
Comments: THANK YOU FOR THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING DIET, I LONG THOUGH MEAT AND DAIRY WAS NOT THE BEST THING TO EAT. IT IS TRUE YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT......

Name: Kristi Walker
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Winnipeg
Time: 2000-09-11 12:21:46
Comments: I heard of this website from my cousin, and I haven't drank milk for over a year. My personal alternative is rice milk, and I don't miss cows' milk at all!!

Name: Lauren Moody
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Florida
Time: 2000-09-11 11:59:19
Comments: I am so excited to learn that milk may be the cause of my asthma, By cutting out dairy foods I may be able to live my life without a dependence on prescription drugs!

Name: sandy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: north carolina
Time: 2000-09-11 09:00:59
Comments: I question your research. There must be some other factor working in concert with rbgh. The percentage increases from 1994 when rbgh was approved for use to 1995 was for one year after approval (the consumer had been exposed, ingesting for aproximately one year). If rgbh is is causing a plague how many cases of infant lymphomancic cancer have been reported? Babies and infants drink the most milk, and eat lots of dairy products. Suggest you utilize your time more wisely and jump on the nicotine or gun control band wagon. Hope any $'s you've made are going to research by ligitimate research facilities.

Dear Sandy,

In theory, NO SINGLE thing will ever be accepted by all people. Test something on six billion people? Perhaps that would satisfy you. Cigarette smoking causes lung cancer, but the real scientific support for that universally accepted conclusion has never been demonstrated. In this case, there is much more evidence and an existing mechanism for cancerous growth. IGF-I, a milk hormone, is the key.

Three years ago, I helped 60 MINUTES do a story (Isadore Roesmarin was the producer) in which aspartame/NutraSweet was implicated as the cause of increased brain cancers.

In that case, epidemiologist John Olney, MD had traced an increase of brain cancers (astrocytomas and glialblastomas) to the five year period after aspartame was approved. Olney found a three percent increase across the board (sex/age) in these brain cancers.

I now reject animal research and do not cite it, with one exception. When I find research performed and fraud committed, I go for the jugular.

During the aspartame experiments, FDA concluded that there were no biological effects on lab animals from aspartame ingestion. I and others found otherwise. The same exact brain cancers in rats (extremely rare) occurred in humans (also extremely rare) and FDA lied.

I used this example to expose the system, and the fact that animal research is also a deception because pharmaceutical companies lie and deceive.

Well...the same thing happened with the bovine growth hormones. One difference...instead of a three percent increase, we are seeing increases of over two thousand percent in some age groups.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

The source of data for the info on lymphatic cancers posted at http://www.notmilk.com/lymph.html is:

NOTE (1): Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Statistical Abstract of the United States, 1999, U.S. National Center for Health Statistics, Vital Statistics of the United States; Table No. 144.


Name: Cathryn
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NY
Time: 2000-09-10 16:34:45
Comments: Great site. Congratulations! This message needs to get out. good luck! cathryn.

Name: Deb Defibaugh
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-10 09:32:51
Comments: I indend to share this web site with others. My son has dairy allergies. He had always had extremely large tonsils & adnoids--so large they almost touched his uvula. Excessive throat clearing finally led me to try eliminating dairy. Surprise--his tonsils shrunk!!! I just wish I had documented it with a "before" and "after" picture.

Name: Samantha Sharp
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ohio
Time: 2000-09-08 23:22:18
Comments: i'm doing a project on the PETA people and i would like some different stuff on them i would appreciate it very much if you could send me things on them and about your site thanks again

Dear Samantha,

PETA is PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals). PETA is a large organization with people all over the planet. They have thousands of helpers who also donate time, effort and money to the cause.

http://www.peta.com/ They have LOTS of other appropriate sites

NOTMILK is NOTMILK (for the Ethical treatment of the NUMBER ONE ANIMAL, humans, who in turn, should ethically treat all other creatures). The Diary Education Board is a one man operation by someone who learned the WHOLE truth about cow's milk and dairy. NOTMILK operates on a shoestring, and Mr. Cohen pays for all the shoestrings.

As WEB site designer and WEBmaster I *donate* my time and efforts to his cause. Why? Because I am convinced that the powerful growth hormone IGF-1 (which is IDENTICAL between cows and humans) that I obtained through a lifetime of typical dairy consumption... CAUSED my surprise case of prostate cancer to GROW so fast that it was declared "terminal" (already spread) by the young age of 55. Call IGF-1 a "Plug and Play" hormone!

I am the FIRST among my hardy and long-lived Danish/German ancestors to acquire ANY form of cancer. I went looking for and FOUND the most likely reason(s) for its trigger. Visit http://www.dorway.com for over 500 WEB pages of good reasons WHY I am convinced that Equal in my coffee (aspartame) for fifteen years was the prime trigger for my cancer.

Shortly after that I went looking for what made it GROW so fast. When I learned about milk and IGF-1 I found the most likely reason why my cancer flourished in a cancer-resistant lineage. I felt duty-bound to help create the over 340 WEB page site http://www.notmilk.com and the 100+ page http://www.notmilk.com/hs to help spread the WHOLE truth on this tasty but sickening cancer fuel.

This is why I donate around 240 hours a month (for the past four years) to a very cost effective means to spread the WHOLE truth concerning aspartame, MSG and cow's milk and dairy... via Internet WEB sites. MSG is a kissing cousin "mind-blower" to aspartame that is in almost all processed foods. Aspartame was used in the placebos BEFORE it was even a legal sweetener. For more info on MSG (which has over 30 different "names") see http://www.truthinlabeling.org.

PETA and the Dairy Education Board have no connection other then linking to each other for obvious reasons... to promote the ethical treatment of all creatures... especially humans, maintaining Internet websites with free information, and caring for all critters (especially humans),

NOTMILK has no official affiliation with PETA... independently we share humanity.

NOTMILK has no affiliations with www.hungerSITE.com, either, except that we also want folks to have a decent meal. Unfortunately, the ONE product with the greatest abundance (over-production for a continually glutted BUT taxpayer supported market)... consists of USDA purchased milk and cheese that they GIVE away to the poor. It is lamentable that through our national "charity" we promote obesity, sickness and premature death to the already downtrodden via the free distribution of milk products.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Denise Reichert
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tallahassee, FL
Time: 2000-09-08 16:22:47
Comments: Firstly, I started to learn the facts about aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal, diet sodas) and the serious symptoms my husband had because of his 6-8 diet cokes a day: headache, blurred vision, muscle spasms, joint pain, insomnia, anxiety, heart palpatations, severe tinnitus, dizziness and weight gain. He thought he had MS and a brain tumor. After being off diet sodas for 3 months, his main complaint is tinnitus. Then I started surfing the net and happened on www.dorway.com and started to learn about our milk and cheese supply. I am letting all of my family and friends know about the food supply and I will hand out flyers at the grocery stores.

Name: Kimberly Miles
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Frederick, MD
Time: 2000-09-08 15:09:03
Comments: This is a tremendously helpful sight. Thank you so much, and thank you to my local organic/natural grocery store for helping me find you.

Name: Mary
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: South Carolina
Time: 2000-09-07 21:26:17
Comments: Hello,Mr.Cohen! The information you have shared concerning dairy products is very interesting.There is ,however,something I would like you to comment on.Could you please give your viewpoint on a couple of passages from the Bible? These are Deuteronomy 32:12-14 and Isaiah 7:14-15. Thank you very much!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I've addressed all biblical references to goat's milk in the following column:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/081698.html

The land of MILK AND HONEY was a land in which breast milk would flow for a people whose first born child was slain in Pharaoh's Egypt. It would be a land of freedom and sweetness.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jessica
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: TN
Time: 2000-09-07 17:14:50
Comments: I hope that this is some kind of joke, because milk is very good and important to the bodies growth.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Go back to bed, dear. It's all just a bad dream...a nightmare.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tracie
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 2000-09-07 17:29:36
Comments: For everyone hating on Robert Cohen please get a life. The least common thing in this world is common sense. I knew something was wrong with milk years ago becauese I got sick and it was not near the expiration date. I would occasionally drink it though and I constantly had mucus. It was so bad that it came out of my eyes. And my mother would always say, get out of your eyes. What she didn't realize was that I literally couldn't see, if I didn't get it out. I learned to listen to my body because it definitely talks. I used to have reproductive pains all the time and they would happen immediately after eating or drinking something with milk in it. Do your own research before getting mad with someone for doing their research. This world is corrupt and the love of money is what did it. God will deal with everyone who has mislead anyone from the truth. The devil is out and people don't even know it. He comes in all shapes and sizes. I can't stand those milk ads. I hated them before I found out about this site. Why would anyone drink another mammals milk? THINK ABOUT IT: WHY DON'T THEY TELL YOU THAT IT DOES A BODY GOOD ANYMORE? Common sense says that IT DOESN'T, THAT'S WHY! I learned the hard way because at the time, I believed anyone who I thought was smarter than me. I thought that they wouldn't say it was good for you if it wasn't. I learned the hard way. We need to look at the BIG PICTURE OF EVERYTHING! SO WHAT THE FDA SAYS MILK IS OK. Who's paying the FDA to say that. PROBABLY WHOEVER THEY'RE COVERING UP! We need to listen to our hearts more and not our minds AND DEFINITELY NOT OTHER PEOPLE'S MINDS. And if you don't know how to listen to your heart, ask GOD to open it up for you to see the BIG PICTURE OF EVERYTHING. That's why everything's a mess. We rely on everybody and everything for what we should be asking THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR.

Name: R.Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-09-07 13:31:33
Comments: To Michelle; Mr. Cohen did not make up the QUIZ. I have to take full responsibility for it. Cancer researchers know that removal of IGF-1 from the site stops the cancer growth and often sends it into remission. As pointed out, IGF-1 is the key factor. Remove external sources of IGF-1 (dairy) and your isolated, single cancer cells stand a good chance of remaining so.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Ron,

Actually, there are TWO milk quizzes. Yours:

http://members.tripod.com/ronjh/quiz2.htm

and Mine:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/090698.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: michelle
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-07 00:36:16
Comments: Your grasp of physiology leaves a lot to be desired. The question in the Milk Quiz, "What causes cancer cells to turn into a tumor" is ridiculously restrictive. Ever heard of RB? Tumor suppressor genes? Oncogenes? Proto-oncogenes? No one thing causes cancerous cells to propogate. This item alone causes the rest of your site to lose credibility. Sorry, just calling them as I see them.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Michelle,

The MILK QUIZ is a parody, not a scientific argument. The following is no joke:

Insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) has been called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of male prostate cancer (Chen, Science, vol. 279. January 23, 1998, p. 563), breast cancer (Hankinson, The Lancet, vol. 351. May 9, 1998, p. 1393), and lung cancer.(Yu, Journal of the National Cancer Institute, vol. 91, no. 2. January 20, 1999)

Regards,

THE NOTMILKMAN


Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: University of Illinois
Time: 2000-09-06 21:32:14
Comments: Yes it's me, the hell raising dairy farmer from southern Illinois. I would like to respond to the very graphic and horrific story about the "Dairy from Hell". As a dairy farmer, I have observed only one of herdsmen-the kind who would do anything for their herd and its well being. The graphic tale about the Dairy from Hell on this message board, if this is all true, shocks me. I have never heard of or seen this kind of neglect and abuse of a herd of cattle. Now, I am pro-milk all the way. I am a dairy farmer for God's sake, what do you expect?? But I am NOT for animal abuse and neglect. As any respectful dairy farmer would tell you, this type of herdsman exists only in minorities. Yes, I know even if one exists that it is too much. But I assure the American public that this is not a clear reflection of how farms are operated. Productive dairy farms are productive for only one reason: the cattle on that farm are healthy, expertly fed, and the manure mgt. holds a top priority. I do not agree with a whole lot on this cite, but I do agree that action is needed in cases like this. As a dairy farmer, I can see this type of neglence is bad for the cattle, the environment, and for the dairy industry's public appeal (which this site loves to attack). However, this is not the way a functioning dairy farm is operated. P.S.-IGF is not digested intact from milk; BST injections do not harm humans! BST is a substance made by the cows body. It is species specific in that BST only has a somatotrophic effect in cattle resulting in increased feed efficiency and thus an increase in milk production; Also as a dairy farmer, I know for a fact that EVERY SINGLE TANK FROM EVERY SINLGE FARM THAT GOES INTO EVERY SINGLE TRUCK IS TESTED FOR ANTIBIOTICS!!!!! NO EXCEPTIONS, EVER! Antibiotic treated cows are tagged with some type of leg band ( a velcro band red in color) or marking stick or something to signify to the milkers that the cow is a "DUMPER COW" meaning that the milk from this cow is not to be kept in the bulk tank of non antibiotic treated milk. IT IS TO BE DUMPED. And if milk from a treated cow enters the bulk tank through milker error and the farmer dosent catch it, the processing plant will following results from all the on farm truck tests. If the test is positive, the whole truck is dumped before it enters the holding tanks prior to processing, the one farmer that contaminated the tank is fined and is forced to purchase the value of the milk in the truck that was contaminated and dumped. Result-antibiotic free milk (this is fool proof people, really I have milked about a million times and have never contaminated milk with antibiotics), a healthy jug on milk on the shelves, and a NOTMILK MAN who stands corrected. DRINK YOUR MILK ALL YOU LITTLE KIDDIES! IT'S GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

Name: Angie
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Ill
Time: 2000-09-06 14:53:54
Comments: I found your website and was very interested in some of the contents in it. At the beginning of this year my 2 year old son was almost diagnosed with autism. After doing an incredible amount of research I found an article linking milk with autism and I immediately took my son off of all milk products. The first day he was off milk he said "I love you mommy" for the first time. He also hugged and kissed his little brother for the first time. I have continued my research on no milk diets and to find out more about this issue. That is how I discovered your website. There is a lot more information about milk there that I did not know. Could you possible send me a list of products that have milk in them that we would usually not think that had milk in them? I would appreciate any help you could give me. Thank you for bringing this concern to the world.

Congratulations on YOUR discovery!

Imagine how much needless suffering and worry could have been avoided... IF the media, medical system and others who consider cow's milk to be "natures almost perfect food", supposedly "necessary for proper nutrition", crucial to "good bones", etc. actually told the WHOLE story.

Mr. Cohen adds: "Robert Cade, MD (Univ. of Florida) identified a naturally occurring cow's milk hormone, casomorphin, as the cause of attention deficit disorder and autism. Congratulations! Now that you have learned the truth about milk, your child will not become the one-out-of five American kids on Ritalin."

Creating and maintaining a list of products containing milk or parts of it... would be impossible. The majority of processed foods seem to have something from milk in it. Anything that has something "caseinate" or whey... has dairy in it. You can find it in "non-dairy" creamers, many brands of canned tuna, ... anyplace where the manufactures needed a "binder" (casein is best used as an excellent furniture glue). There are whole lines of "health food" products that use whey, casein binders, and even colostrum .... the cows FIRST (and most potent) milk.

Just like the "flavor enhancer" called MSG (a mind blower) that has 30 different names (see http://www.truthinlabeling.org), and aspartame (the fake sweetener with 92 FDA acknowledged symptoms of poisoning... see http://www.dorway.com) ... components of milk can be found throughout the American food chain.

The end result is that one must read ALL labels, especially the fine print.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-06 14:01:17
Comments: well this is my question, is this true?BST which is present in consumed milk is not absorbed as such. It is digested like any other protein to single amino acids and oligopeptides by protease enzymes in the stomach and small intestines. Protein hormones such as BST have to be injected directly into the body to be biologically active (e.g. insulin injections taken by a diabetic). However, only HST is active in humans and BST has no biological effects even if injected directly into the body. Why wont you let anyone else see my question?at least before you cut it all up. thats ok i can ask the other people myself.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Russ,

Bovine somatotropin (bST) and bovine growth hormone (bGH) are both different names/abbreviations for the same protein hormone.

Protein hormones are usually destroyed or broken down by gastric activity in the stomach, or enzymatic activity in the human intestines (gut).

When the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone (rbGH/rbST) is injected into dairy cows, it works upon their pituitaries to promote the secretion of increased amounts of growth hormones, i.e., bGH and insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I).

While you are correct that bovine growth hormone and human growth hormone are different (both contain 191 amino acids, but the sequence differs by about 35%), IGF-I is identical in humans and cows.

Milk was designed (whether you believe in God, mother nature, or evolution) so that the lactoferrins, immunoglobulins, and hormones so contained would survive digestive processes and nurture the nursing infant of each mammalian species.

Milk first buffers gastric pH in the stomach. Meat from cows containing the same hormones would be broken down. Milk hormones are not degraded because of the buffering effect. A gastric pH of 1.8 (very acidic) is changed to a more basic 6.0 so that these proteins survive, intact.

Homogenized milk micronizes (makes smaller) fat molecules so that they become carrier vehicles for these protein growth hormones. These micronized liposomes survive gut breakdown, and are small enough to get through the gut wall and be absorbed directly into the bloodstream.

In October of 1999, the Journal of the American Dietetic Association published a study (Heaney, et. al) in which IGF-I levels in milk drinkers increased by a factor of ten percent!

IGF-I has been identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of prostate cancer (somebody tell Rudy Guiliani), lung cancer (somebody alert the cigarette industry), and breast cancer (tell that to the 1 out of 7 women who will be diagnosed with breast cancer).

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

WEBmaster comment:

The above referenced ADA test showed a 10% IGF-1 increase in participants who consumed only TWELVE OUNCES MORE milk per day (three 8 oz. glasses), than the control group (1 and a half glasses per day).

Most Americans consume MORE than this minimal quantity each day. That means MORE IGF-1.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Down Under
Time: 2000-09-06 09:40:52
Comments: I'm vegan, and extremely anti-dairy.... I also live about 200 metres from a large Dairy Farm and have travelled around the local area to see a few Dairy farms; yet Shari's description seems to describe a Dairy farm that is VERY extreme, and I wonder how such a farm could ever keep operating. When I finally turned to veganism I had a few medical problems disappear, especially mucous build up in my sinus passages and stomach cramps (these had me doubled over in pain constantly, many times wanting to kill myself but not being able to do so because of the pain). These symptoms disappeared a week after going vegan and dropping dairy products. I have no doubt that Dairy products are totally unneccessary (although I'm more concerned about our anthropocentric exploitation of Animals).

Name: russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-06 08:29:45
Comments: So Shari , first of all how does your neighbor keep his milk permits? Dosn't the state and federal inspectors ever shut him down ?and how could anyone stay in business if they treat their animals that bad? I find your statemend kind of hard to bealive. I milk a few cows myself and i can tell you from first hand experience that the cows are your first priority, you have to take the best care of the cows they are what makes your money.

Name: Jeanne
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-09-06 05:25:38
Comments: Can antibiotics be destroyed by pasteurization or sterilization?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeanne,

Sterilization works. One detonated thermonuclear device will generate 10 million degrees Fahrenheit. Should you be holding a glass of milk at that moment, you will ingest no antibiotics.

Consumers Union and the Wall Street Journal recently tested milk in the New York metropolitan area for the presence of antibiotic residues.

They independently found 52 different antibiotic residues in milk samples. Imagine that?

Dairy farmers will tell you that they are lying, and that every truckload of milk is tested. Who would you believe?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Shari
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Cheney, WA
Time: 2000-09-06 02:21:37
Comments: I have been living near a dairy, whose horrific processing practices have caused the surrounding neighbors to band together and fight this guy. At first glance, the dairy is dirty, unkept, and very smelly. Before anyone goes off on a tangent, I raise livestock and eat my own meat because of meat processing practices. I am very used to manure and other farm smells (I have a billy goat, and he stinks to high heaven at times) This odor is pure methane and decay. The odor emits from a holding pond which is a purple color, and the plot (300' x 300') which holds approximately 80 - 100 cows. The cows are forced to live, eat, and sleep in their own feces. I have lived here four years and have yet to see a stall cleaned. Needless to say, the cows teats are caked in manure. The people the dairy employs are either drunk or high the majority of the time. One is under investigation for meth lab/stolen property. At one point, my neighbor, the milker, got so drunk he left the cows hooked to the machines and went home and passed out. This man and others can't keep themselves clean, so you know the teats are not washed prior to milking. The owner of the dairy is no better. As we all know, it is necessary to freshen a cow yearly. If done properly, the cow can provide milk for 20 years. However, I've yet to see a calf on the property. The owner actually ripped a calf from the womb because the purchaser of the dairy calves wanted two. Again, I have never seen a calf, male or female, on the property. On with the tale: this spring and summer, several cows slipped on concrete covered in manure and split their pelvis'. One cow was drug out to the side of a county road and left without food and water for five days. Her milk bag filled to an ungodly size. She never moved. The neighbors and other travelers along our road stopped to inquire and complain. It wasn't until Spokane County Animal Control was called and they contacted the dairy by phone three days later. The cow disappeared. Not three weeks later and another cow in the same condition was left again, but had some hay and water. Again, this poor creature was left at the roadside (now remember Kids are riding the school bus and going by this dairy and assuming this is what a dairy should be) At the same time this live cow is suffering next to the road, a dead cow, bloated all four legs sticking straight up is left by the road also. So now the flies have started, thick as thieves. So we (the neighbors and I) start calling. We went through Washington State Department of Ecology, Water Protection, the USDA, and the health department. No one wants to touch this guy. He lives right on the edge of the law and he is such a jerk he frightens the neighbors. So the neighbor is out walking her dogs and what does she come across but a literal bone yard, but not just bones but whole cows lying there rotting. She comes home in a tizzy, and off we go with the camera crossing the field to take pictures. (Charlie's Angels - Watch out) The cow that laid by the road had been drug ALIVE to die in this back field, while I am no forensic scientist, the cow was lying on her belly, hollowed out by maggots. (the coyotes and cougars, which we have in abundance, imagine that, had not tore this creature to bits) Next to her is another cow, with the hide still on, hollowed out. These cows were laying among other carcasses. So off we go to the Spokane County Health Department and we get a hold of Mr. Joe Pallelo. Now Mr. Pallelo is a piece of work, he calls and tells the dairy owner that he needs to deal with the dead cows (that was over four weeks ago) He calls the dairy everytime we call him and says, "Shucky darn, but the guy won't let me on the property and he says their not his" Well, we did get his dander up when we called the vet. So far, the cows still lay there and rot. Now, the cows in the field across from the dairy are starting to die (these are meat cattle on a huge pasture) And we watched them haul another dead cow into the field today. I noticed a man's response to your efforts and how apalled he is at the whole idea and cows are mindless creatures living in 5-star conditions. Sir, I beg to differ. These cattle know their miserable, that is why the eat their own crud and females try to have sex with each other. These animals are fed, but they are sick and tired (literally). I have goats, and when one goat had her babies taken (they died in the womb) she sulked and wandered looking for these babies. When I take one goat to the vet, the others know she's gone and pitch a fit, running up and down the fence line. One beef I had, Sarah, knew the moment she saw me she was going to get a brushing (with a horse comb) and ran from the back of the pasture, leaning all 900 lbs on me while I combed her. I still did not have a problem cooking a roast that winter. The methods by which this dairy and many others is inhumane and I beg society to contemplate our reasonings of mistreating animals and the disposability of livestock. Worse yet, these unkept barns are a host of trouble waiting to happen. If one thinks Anthrax is just a band, remember this type of treatment will eventually leak into the surrounding community and children. This man cannot sell his milk locally. He must haul it to Moses Lake, to the Safeway processor there (160 miles away). (I contacted Safeway, with no response) I know hormones, antibiotics, and pus come out of those poor cow udders. Believe me when I say, I enjoy milk and milk products, but I really don't want to be forced to milk a cow twice a day because we can not govern and/or regulate dairy practices. Any suggestions on who can stop this 'beast' from harming any other defenseless animals.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Shari,

As a result of your letter, I have been in close contact with the Washington State department of Agriculture. The head of the dairy division is a veterinarian, Candace Jacobs. As a result of my investigation, I have identified the dairy farm. Dr. Jacobs is taking this complaint very seriously, and will send inspectors to that farm.

I also spoke to your health department. I was told that what happens on that farm is not in his jurisdiction. I informed him that in my opinion, it was. Rotting bodies of downer cows may very well contain PRIONS, the particles that cause the human equivalent of Mad Cow Disease. Dr. Jacobs agrees that the health department should be involved.

I will keep you and all readers of my newsletter up to date.

To subscribe to the notmilk letter, send a blank EMAIL to:

notmilk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



UPDATE

Situation has been handled. Here is Mr. Cohen's update:

Early this week, a disturbing letter was posted to the NOTMILK Guest Book. The author, Shari from Spokane, Washington, described the most horrible of conditions on a local dairy farm. As a result of that letter, Robert Cohen spoke with the Spokane Health Department and the State Department of Agriculture.

Cohen learned that the farm in question had a very poor history of mistreating animals and of complaints.

Candace Jacobs of the State Department of Agriculture took an immediate "hands-on" approach and sent inspectors to the farm. She reported that the conditions described in that letter no longer exist.

The last cow death on that farm occurred in early July. Inspectors found the dairy cows to be free of disease and the stalls to be clean.

The farmer in question is milking 400 cows and has made substantial improvements to his operation insuring the comfort and safety of his animals.

Robert Cohen
NOTMILK.com


Name: Denae Cindy Sherri
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Hazleton, Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-09-05 21:44:45
Comments: You need to get a life bud. Milk is the best beverage in the universe. what nutrients can you get out of "soy milk". How can you put down the hardest working people in the nation, the dairy farmer? If you would have drank milk while you were growing up you would have amounted to much more than the "NOTMILK MAN FREAK." Have fun dying at a young age from the crippling affect of osteoporosis.

Name: Brent Biernbaum
Website: <
Referred by: AngelFire
From: Palestine IL (We have cows so it might be Hell to you guys)
Time: 2000-09-04 22:48:33
Comments: I'm a normal person (I consume dairy products without fearin some magical diesease might manifest in my body and bring me to my death) and i have found your site offense to the intelligence of sane people. Anyone with the slightest hint of common sense can see that milk isnt the devil. If you would like a cause you should invest your time on the education of the dangers of smoking, not trying to tell the elderly that they can't have their cottage cheese at lunch because it might send them to an early grave. Its worthless cause like this that make me say that you people are all a bunch of ignorant low life time wasting fools. And its crap like this, and people like you that my hard-earned tax dollars go to. So next time your in the grocery store buying a milk subsitute and using your food stamps because your to lazy to get a real job, think about me because it's me and people like me that are supporting you and your brain washed families.

Name: hi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-04 10:06:10
Comments: Well how can I start. First off, I drink milk or some kind of milk product on a daily basis. You say that it can lead to heart disease. And over 50% of americans are overweight right? You must have forgotten that a majority of those people don't exercise AT ALL! I DO exercise daily. I try to maintain a balanced diet. THats how you have a healthy heart. I wouldn't be suprised if these peta morons never heard of exercise before.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nameless,

During the Korean war, 18-20 year old American soldiers who died in battle (in supposedly perfect physical condition) were autopsied and found to have athersclerosis--butter-like placques in their arteries.

It is now accepted by every scientific agency that animal fats and cholesterol do not make for a healthy heart.

I imagine that hearts from plant-eating PETAites are a lot pinker and healthier than the cholesterol-clogged hearts of cheese and meat eaters.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ryan A Fraley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Chester, IL
Time: 2000-09-03 02:06:04
Comments: I would have to say two things in my message. One is thank you for having the guts to stand against Monsanto. The second thing is that I am not really thanking you at all, because you all could use a more moderate approach and better HTML (sic) and get your point across much better! Don't shoot the messenger, or for that matter the dairy farms that could convert to producing soy milk and soy protein (which I dig, BTW) because these people are merely misinformed. If anyone is being manipulative here it is the FDA, Monsanto, and the National Dairy Council. I hate to see it when you lower themselves just a little toward their low level.

Heck, Jack Lalanne has turned even more people away from milk by being an 85-year old Hercules who is also a lacto-veg. The best solution for your problem is to quit acting like you consume the very product you hate, since you have taught us that milk can cause bad behavior too!

See, I know milk can alter behavior too, I am not expecting you to act like Jesus, I am just hoping you would take my suggestions in to consideration and not come up with some snide remark in response. Thank you for your time.


Name: Nan Taska
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Somewhere
Time: 2000-09-02 23:55:03
Comments: This is to Clint McCoy, the owner of the 300 Holstein cows. Just wondering, do you use Posilac (Rbgh) on your cows? You are right cows around since the 1620 time, I take that back it was 2 more years, then the Pilgrims got their first cows, but at that time, it took alot of milk to produce that butter that they needed Very little of it, they got. No fat Pilgrims hanging around, but in this age I see alot of them today, you guessed it, I live in Pilgrim Country. After reading Mr Cohen's web site, it all made sense, we drink the body fluids of a animal, not intended for us after the jump start. the Mother Cow weans the calf off her milk, as do humans. Milk is only for a jump start of the baby, after that then we go to other things. Did you ever wonder why so much cancer, and where is it coming from. The air and water and all else, then add the IGF-1 in the milk, that is a growth factor, it SAYS GROW, as all of us carry some sort of cancer. As you can see I am what you call one of them, but it sure makes sense to me. I consumed the product, loved the milk and ice cream, now a tainted product to tell the small cancers to grow in me. Thankyou Monsanto for the Rbgh. I also tell them that every month. Open your mind, read what is said about the MILK, this is a fast track world, all new things are learned. Maybe time for a change in what we consume. These people that speak to us of the MILK do this to inform the consumer. Last thing, got a answer from a friend on the Milk issue, he said "Like apple pie been around for years, so has milk". Nothing more I can say, just read what Mr Cohen has to say, and I know you have a big investment in your cows, but read.

Name: Rich Platz
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Eugene Oregon
Time: 2000-09-02 11:27:57
Comments: Well, its the same old story as I see it. the Black Wizzards of the Oil Industry are in cahoots with the White Coat Wizzards of the Milk and Medical Indusry! Basically they maintain: Don't let anything get in the way of our profit margin, at any cost! "Stop these truth statements coming out, or we'll go out of business", is what their stand is - In my opinion! Rich Platz, jazzdrummer

Name: Carolyn
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Michigan
Time: 2000-09-02 09:08:49
Comments: Great to find good infomation and such interesting comments. You can certainly tell who is making lots of money from dairy products! Look around and you can also easily see who is suffering because they believed the marketing hype put out by these people. Americans have been sold a sad "bill of goods" about dairy foods, and now those sad people defend it as though it came straight from God! Sorry folks but you have been fooled again by people who laugh all the way to the bank!!!!

Name: Clint McCoy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-09-02 01:12:39
Comments: Brace yourselves all you "non-milk drinking cause it hurts God's little moo-moo's". Are you ready for this?? I am a 21 year old dairy farmer and owner of 300 Holstein cattle. I can all hear you calling me "The Devil". Really, people, lets be honest. Don't you think that this "MILK IS POISION" band wagon you are all on is a massive waste of time and money? Who are you trying to kid anyway? The dairy industry has been around for a lot longer than a bunch of flag burning hippies like yourselves. You are not going to change America's taste buds or their minds. The fact of the matter is that people like to consume dairy products. They are not going to cahnge their minds. EVER! And you people always say "If we can get just one perosn to quit dairy, then we have made a difference." BUT IT DOSENT MAKE A DIFFERENCE! NOT ONE BIT!!! Milk opponents always place animal cruelty and mistreatment and the top of their lists of reasons for being anti-dairy. Well, let me ask you something. As you are walking across the many dairy herd free stall barns I am sure you visit daily, have you ever heard a cow say "I hate living in this barn where I get high quality feed, plenty of water, a roof over my head, and my manure cleaned up after me. I wish I was out living like a cow was intended to live-wild and in the forest"? And for all your troubles-your picketts, your billboards, and your web pages-have you ever heard one of those cows say "Thank You"? NO! Picking up my sarcasm? I'm laying it on pretty thick. The bottom line is this: you all are sailing on the ship USS Lost Cause and your captain is steering you to a place called "Fantasy Island". The dairy industry is the most profitable food animal industry for food animal producers. They are not going to stop milking their cows because you people tell them to. And America is not going to stop consuming dairy products due to propaganda. Your cause is nothing more than a greasy spot on the highway of the American dairy industry. AND THAT, my lactose ignorant friends, IS TRUE.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cowboy,

You wrote:

"...have you ever heard a cow say 'I hate living in this barn where I get high quality feed, plenty of water, a roof over my head, and my manure cleaned up after me."

Substitute the word "negro" for cow, and you sound like the owner of an 1860 Alabama cotton plantation.

You also wrote:

"Your cause is nothing more than a greasy spot on the highway of the American dairy industry."

May I use that quote?

The 170 billion pounds of milk your industry produces in the year 2000, will contain 10.5 trillion milligrams of greasy cholesterol. That's one slippery highway, and a roadway to heart disease. Divide that by 270 million Americans, and we find the average American, thanks to dairy products, consuming 38,875 mg of cholesterol this year. The daily intake of cholesterol is 106 mg. There are 2 mg of cholesterol in a small piece of Armour bacon.

Thanks to your product, the average American consumes from milk and dairy products the same cholesterol in 53 slices of bacon, every day of his or her life. By age 52, that equals the same cholesterol in one million slices of bacon. Care to HAZARD a guess as to what is America's number one killer?

Thanks for your letter.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Ummm... a "dairy farmer" sending Email from "First Robinson Savings Bank" in Robinson, IL. Tending to rows of green stuff instead of milking the cows?

Hey... if you ARE a dairy farmer you MUST know that within the past three years you had RECORD high prices ($17 and change per hundred weight) and that at the end of last year prices had fallen BELOW PARITY ($9.73) ... for the first time ever. Considering that prices are still very low, around eleven bucks per 100 pounds, it would seem that oversupply (thanks to genetic engineering and factory farms) and less demand as a result of the NOTMILK campaign... constitute a whole lot more than a "grease spot". :-)

We are making NO difference? The whole truth IS getting out... and those silly moustaches will turn to sad faces for all connected with the dairy industry.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Janet St. Pierre
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Rochester, New York
Time: 2000-09-01 14:00:30
Comments: I heard Mr. Cohen speak in Pittsford, NY on August 26, 2000. I told a co-worker about his talk. He has been struggling with diabetes and hasn't felt well for some time. I asked him if he would cut out dairy products for a few weeks. He loved his milk, so I didn't think he would do it. Well, today (4 days later) he showed me numbers on his calendar, and I didn't know what they were. He said they were his daily readings. Well, the number has been decreasing dramatically, and he said he owed it all to me!! Wow, did I feel good that I could help someone.

Name: Robert Edmands
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Boulder, CO
Time: 2000-09-01 06:40:11
Comments: Humans have lived in close association with cows for some 9,000 years. They are not apt to give it up next week!! The reason certain ethnic groups- Africans, some Asians, Native Australians, have such high levels of lactose intolerance is that they never domesticated this animal or did so only recently. This does not make the cow Satan's cousin! Domestic animals made our civilization what it is today- Small pox, tuberculosis, The flu- are all diseases generated by association with domestic animals. The plus side is we would probably still be living in groups of 20 people using only stone tools without them. You learn to take the good with the bad.

Name: Rick Servatius
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: North Carolina
Time: 2000-09-01 00:06:08
Comments: Come on, how can such a successful organization like the American Dairy Association be telling us untruths? It is a huge industry that certainly knows what's good for us, the American public. We drink lot's of milk, it's good for you, it's white, just like our bones. When I was in Junior High School, girls were not very developed: Now thanks to milk, and meat, my boys in JHS are far happier!! No, I'm just being facetious. Today, some scientists are reporting that maybe CO2 isn't the major cause of ozone depletion and/or global warming: It might be Methane!!! One of the deleterious effects brought on by dairy cows. Maybe the ADA will take a few well-deserved hits here, eh?

Name: Marcia
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-08-30 17:25:31
Comments: I missed the "Crossfire" segment referred to... is there a transcript available ? Thank you. p.s. keep up the good work !

Name: Barry Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Netherlands
Time: 2000-08-30 10:40:55
Comments: Hi, Great site but how about a list of all products which are milk based. I quit dairy products a couple of years ago - or so I thought until I found out sodium casinate was a milk product. I love to know if there's anything else I am (was) still eating which is milk based.

Name: Paul Pursehouse
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: San Diego
Time: 2000-08-29 21:11:50
Comments: I watched crossfire and was favorably Impressed by your speaker..

We must give credit where credit is due. PETA, for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is not a part of Mr. Cohen's endeavors. By virtue of the fact that humans are animals, and we support the Ethical Treatment of humans... we just happen to agree with PETA on many points.

However, PETA, http://www.peta-online.org and their affiliate site, http://www.milksucks.com are the folks who did the Guiliani advertisement, the beer is safer than milk ad, and I suspect they will be doing more to help ALL animals (humans included).

So visit PETA and give them your support.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Lauren Hockenberry
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-08-29 20:01:13
Comments: I am a vegetarian and agree with everything Ingrid Newkirk said. There is no reason for people to eat meat. I am only 14 years old so there isn't much I can do myself to spread the word that it isn't necessary to eat meat. I talk to my friends about vegetarianism and try to change their minds about eating meat. I was a milk drinker until I saw a discussion on Crossfire. That is where I got this website. I may not be saving every cow or pig but I feel that I am definately cutting down on the killing of the animal population. Even a rat deserves to live. God made his creatures so that they would have long, healthy, happy lives. Please e-mail me if you agree with me. Thank you.

Name: R.Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-08-29 18:39:16
Comments: Remember way back when CARNATION MILK used to advertise "Milk from contented cows?" How many years has it been since they had to admit that the slogan wasn't true and had to quit using it? Must be 20 years at least. Here's hoping Mayor Rudy recovers and learns what made his prostate cancerous.

Name: Rich Enciso
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Leona Valley, CA
Time: 2000-08-29 14:28:22
Comments: I'm tired of people thinking that Bovine Slime is the perfect food. Thanks for the great info.

Name: Pastor Bob East
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Rogersville,TN
Time: 2000-08-28 20:28:44
Comments: It is good to see that some are willing to stand up to big, big business. I taught school for a good many years and the Dairy Association furnished us with all of the "free" stuff we could use in classroom activities. We thought how generous of them! How sad that those of us as teachers took so little time to evaluate the "free" generosity. I was a great user of diary products and I fell victim to a degenerative disease by the name of MS (Multiple Sclerosis).I would not blame anyone thing for what happened in my experience but I feel certain that many, if not all, of the major illnesses of today are enhanced by the use of large amounts of animal products. By getting my head on straight and of course God's Grace I was able to turn things around and for the past nearly forty years have been sharing with others that there is a better way. Milk is great food!!!!....For baby calves!!!!! Keep up the good work.

Name: Josh
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Milk Town
Time: 2000-08-28 16:29:53
Comments: You people make me laugh! I was reading your site while drinking a big cup of cow's milk. After reading your site, I just want to drink more milk, cheese, and other stuff your are complaining about. People have been eating these kinds of food for decades. Why do you have any right to tell me what I can/can't eat/drink???

Hi there... oh Email-less and unaccountable one from Virginia.

We are NOT trying to tell YOU what to eat. We simply inform consumers of what is IN what they are eating... and what it can do to them.

You can do whatever you please with yourself... just as long as it does NOT impact negatively on OTHERS. However, trying to mislead others DOES cause harm. That makes you an unwelcome "guest".

As for your "Drink Milk, It's good for you!" comment. Milk and dairy are good for the Fluid Milk Processors, Monsanto, USDA, FDA, doctors, hospitals, drug companies, morticians... and for thinning out the ranks of Social Security recipients... and many who never make it that far thanks to heart disease, cancer, etc. There is NO requirement or reasonable necessity for cow's milk or dairy in the human diet. Period.

Don't bother posting again... unless you have the courage to post your true working Email address.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Louis Liptak Engelhart
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Waterloo IA
Time: 2000-08-27 17:33:16
Comments: You need to add the Mike Segel show to your list of "How did you find us?"

Name: Paddy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 2000-08-27 14:37:01
Comments: Try to understand that milk is not bad for you! you say that milk contains bacteria and other chemicals. well let me remind you that EVERYTHING on this planet of ours contains it! if it wasnt for these chemicals then we would not exist at all. bacteria isnt all bad either. there are many forms of it in our bodies for example that keep us alive. also im curious to see why you seem to think that meathane from cows causes global warming because the number of cows on this planet is very small compared to the number of cars on the road or the many factories that emit much worse chemicals at a larger volume. also what does the FDA have to gain from hiding information about milk. why would they really risk millions of peoples lives by keeping their mouths shut. i would also like to kno how milk actually causes osteoperosis instaed of preventing it. thanks and please in the future ask people before you use their photos in your ads.

Sigh. You either didn't read and/or understand very much of the 340 pages of information notmilk.com.

Common sense should make you admit that if ALL, of the over 43,000 mammals on this planet (including humans) WEAN their young from ALL milk, when appropriate... and that consuming ANY milk after being weaned is NOT appropriate. Especially the milk of an alien species! Cow blood is alien to yours, her digestive system is alien to yours... etc. So... common sense should prevail that her MILK is alien to YOUR systems requirements (as it is to every human system).

What DO you consider GOOD for you?

  • The 59 hormones?
  • The herbicides, pesticides, PCB's, dioxins (see http://www.junkscience.com for more)?
  • The protein, 80% of which is casein, a powerful HISTAMINE (mucus maker) best used as a furniture glue?
  • The calcium, which, without an EQUAL amount of magnesium (as exists in the plants from which the COW gets HER calcium) cannot be absorbed?
  • The scores of allergens?
  • The feces... from whence come most of the millions of live bacteria per liter?

    Of the 59 hormones... which is your favorite? Estrogen, Progesterone, Testosterone, or perhaps it is the IGF-1... best thought of as a cancer "fuel cell"... identical between cows and humans... it is a "plug and play" hormone!

    What is your favorite antibiotic? New York milk tested for traces of 52 different kinds.

    Or perhaps it is all the EXTRA tasty goodies one might get from the THREE 8 oz. glasses of milk they recommend per day: up to 14.2 million live bacteria and up to 531 MILLION somatic (laymen call these "PUS") cells. Or perhaps your arteries have not clogged fast enough... and you NEED the cholesterol equivalent of 53 slices of bacon per suggested daily intake... three glasses... which WILL get the job done faster.

    Or... maybe you are not overweight to the point of being considered obese. Cheer up... 54% of Americans are already THERE... and with 50% of calories (whole milk) coming from all those tasty toxin-loaded fats (34% for "2% milkfat" milk) you, too, can join the majority.

    Do yourself a huge favor, Paddy, and read with an open mind, check out our resources and references... and then dump the crap (literally).

    Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Stanley Partyka
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sumter,SC 29150
Time: 2000-08-26 23:15:55
Comments: Can you inform me about using whey protein? Is it unhealthy being produced from milk? Thank you.

Proteins in WHEY (lactalbumin, bovine serum albumin) have been
identified as triggers for insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus
(TYPE I) and adult onset diabetes (TYPE II).

Enuf said?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Cow/s milk and dairy are unfit for human consumption. Period!

There are NO valid health or human welfare reasons to consume cow's milk or dairy. That includes "pieces and parts" of it that exist in thousands of products... even "dairy free" stuff.

Over 43,000 mammals wean their young from mother's milk WHEN appropriate, including humans. Humans are the only ones that partake of milk AFTER that time... and THE wonder of wonders is that it is milk from an alien species.

Astounding as it may seem, the powerful GROWTH hormone called "insulin-like growth factor ONE" (IGF-1) is IDENTICAL between cows and humans... and it DOES make things grow. My prostate cancer, which had already spread by the young age of 55 (thanks to many years of over-indulgence in milk and dairy)... now grows over FOUR TIMES MORE SLOWLY now that I am over two years with NO diary in my diet.

Yes... I DO miss the tasty aspects of milk, ice cream, cheeses, etc.... but logic tells me this learned trait is NOT A TASTE TO DIE FOR!

Then, of course, there are the OTHER 58 hormones, allergens, toxins, blood, pus, feces, fats, cholesterol, viruses... and, basically, concentrated anything the cow ate!

Quick turnoff: The FDA allows 20 MILLION live bacteria and 750 MILLION somatic (laymen call them "PUS") cells per LITER, before it is kept off the market. Cholesterol? The "recommended" three glasses a day provide the cholesterol equivalent of 53 slices of bacon. Got Heart Disease? Whole milk is 87% water... and that 3.25% "milkfat" is actually around 50% of the calories in milk from toxin-loaded FATS. Got Obesity? Doing ones self a favor by buying "2%"? Not really... one still gets 34% of calories from fats.

GOT MILK? Then one IS helping "thin the herd" while boosting the profits of manufacturers who USE milk/milk byproducts, medical systems who treat the diseases, drug companies that offer powerful and expensive drugs... and, best of all, milk consumers are helping to keep the Social Security system solvent by dying off sooner than expected. (I suspect that my surprise cancer, making me the FIRST among my long-lived Danish/German ancestors to acquire any form of cancer, has nicked MY lifespan by from 15 to 30 years or MORE. That saves the SS system a BUNDLE!)

I donate around 240 hours a month to informing folks about aspartame (dorway.com), MSG (truthinlabeling.org), MILK/Dairy (notmilk.com), FDA, Monsanto and the unnecessary Frankenstein shot (http://www.notmilk.com/hs) now given to over half of America's dairy cows to produce MORE milk for a GLUTTED market... so that others have a better chance of NOT ending up like me, or worse, dead.

Cancer has trashed half of my married life and shortened it by a considerable number of years. I deserved better from my government... and so do you!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: jack semon
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: mich
Time: 2000-08-26 08:38:03
Comments: just seen your add on tv. what a wierd group you are. animal protection, if you dogooders would get away from the tv set and get out into the real world and see wildlife as it really is you would think different, you can stick to eating your veggies, grass, weeds or whatever turns you on, ill eat my meat, also wild meat, also i will use my fur from trapping, jack

Name: Maralyn Nash
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Britain
Time: 2000-08-26 06:50:03
Comments: 25 aug 2000. In May as a way of losing weight I decided to cut out all products connected with the cow. Not only have I lost 21 lbs but two very interesting events occurred. Prior to my diet I had been diagnosed with a large (8cm) Fibroid. It had to be checked to see if it was still growing. To my surprise within 10 week on this diet it had reduced. Co-incidence? Who knows. Also, pre-period breast pain has not just reduced but disappeared. I'll stick to no dairy from now on.

Name: R. Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-08-25 23:48:00
Comments: To Steve on class actions: Mayor Rudy is likely ready to give it some thought about now.

Name: steve markowitz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle
Time: 2000-08-25 16:22:04
Comments: Great work!! I noticed some of your billboard campaigns. I'm glad someone is finally speaking the truth. The Wisconsin Milkboard spokeswoman said that PETA was “misleading the public for their own gain”. Huh!!! What does PETA have to gain! They're not a billion dollar industry like the dairy industry, which has EVERYTHING to gain from the continued ignorance of the masses. Sadly, they have all the money they could possibly need to perpetuate their myths... and the support of our media and government to boot! We're up against a venerable foe! But somehow I think our truth is coming to light... and there will be a lot of angry women out there who find out too late that they could have avoided bone loss by NOT drinking milk!! Anybody interested in a class action lawsuit??

Name: Michelle
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Rhode Island
Time: 2000-08-25 15:26:06
Comments: This is an excellent site. Keep up the great work! I can't believe that anyone drinks milk - it's so terrible in so many ways.

Name: Joe Covington
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: IL
Time: 2000-08-24 09:46:43
Comments: Looks like I will be coming back when I have enough time to go through it all. Thanks

Name: Pierre Robitaille
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sherbrooke, Qc, Canada
Time: 2000-08-23 13:06:27
Comments: Hi, I have diabetes and you can be sure I will try to eliminate dairy products if it can help me! Before visiting this page, I have never heard that milk could be harmfull in any way, but you have really convinced me! I will give you some feedback if my health is begining to improve in the next months.

Name: Cindy
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Washington
Time: 2000-08-18 14:29:12
Comments: Great website! I recently started Marilu Henner's Total Health Makeover and was shocked to learn about dairy products. I've since given up all dairy, all meat except fish, sugar and caffiene and am drastically cutting out chemicals by not eating processed or pre-packaged foods. This site has reinforced my new commitment to a healthy diet. I'll definitely recommend this site to my friends. Thanks, Cindy

Name: Bev
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Orlando FL
Time: 2000-08-16 02:30:08
Comments: I was interested in this site because my 2-year old grandson was diagnosed with mild autism a few months ago. At the age of 2 1/2 he had no language, little eye contact, withdrawn, severe temper tantrums, sleep disturbances, and hand-flapping. My daughter and I did our research and stumbled upon the theory that dairy can play a huge role in this developmental problem. He has been on a dairy-free diet for 3 months. The changes in his personality and behavior are amazing. He has developed great eye contact, plays with other kids, interacts with the family, sleeps through the night, tantrums are reduced to a few normal 2-year old fits. And, best of all, with the help of a wonderful speech therapist, he is learning language and is beginning to communicate with us. He is such a happy, funny little guy. We are grateful that we learned of the detrimental affects dairy can have. Being dairy free has given my beautiful grandson a chance for a normal life. I hope my story will encourge others dealing with similar problems to take the leap to dairy freedom.

Name: cheri
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: ca
Time: 2000-08-16 01:25:24
Comments: I always knew John Robbins was a genius. This website helps to prove my theory. Milk does not always do a body good!!

Name: Gerry Bush
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: Mesa, AZ
Time: 2000-08-16 00:31:17
Comments: Every time I drink milk from cows that have been treated with the growth hormone, I get a terrible reaction. Within 15 minutes of ingestion, I begin to shiver with horrible chills. There is NO WAY that I can get warm (and I live in AZ)! Next I get very sleepy and sleep for 3-4 hours. When I awake I feel as though I have been drugged and am in a semi-stupor for the next 24 hours. I am unable to function. It took me some time to trace it to milk with the hormone, but that is definitely the source of my problem. The only milk I am able to drink safely is from Trader Joe's where the dairy farmers sign a contract that they will not use the hormone. Other so-called organic milks that come from large dairy cooperatives often contain hormones. This I found out the hard way. I stay away from both Horizon and Organic Valley brands as they are not always hormone free, in spite of their claims.

Name: Beth
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: US
Time: 2000-08-15 15:11:11
Comments: I'm a 14 year old vegetarian, and this page changed my outlook on milk. Cows don't drink our milk, so why do most humans drink theirs? Also, there is a lot of stereotyping about how kittens love milk. I own a kitten and was informed by a vet that milk is bad for kittens and it was better for them to drink water. After reading this page I learned how milk is even worse for my kitten. Thanks for informing me of the dangers of milk. I'm going to email this to all my friends.

Name: Sigmund Elber
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Georgia
Time: 2000-08-15 14:59:18
Comments: The info on you site is very interesting and I plan to look at the site more

Name: Darlene
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 2000-08-15 14:10:27
Comments: I would like to find out what is actually IN milk. You mention about "pus" . What the heck is that about? After visiting this website I have thrown away my milk and will never drink that garbage again. I will continue to get calcium from foods an supplements. I have also emailed this site to everyone I know. Keep up the good work :-)

Name: Andy Godsberg
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York City
Time: 2000-08-15 13:59:29
Comments: Great Site! Cows' milk is for calves.

Name: Chris
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Boston, M.A.
Time: 2000-08-15 13:53:17
Comments: Please, let's not forget that a lot of this "Scientific Data" doesn't talk about heredity. I think people go overboard with their "passions". Talk about being brain-washed - the not milk people in my eyes are the ones who are brain-washed. Milk may not be good for you or for a lot of other people in this world, but it is good for a lot of us, and I for one am not going to stop drinking milk. People have different allergies - just because I'm allergic to Strawberries, as are a lot of people, does that mean that they are bad for all of us?

Name: alan robichaud
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From:
Time: 2000-08-15 13:26:24
Comments: Several years ago I began to be unable to digest normal food. While seeking the answer I found SKIM MILK was the reason. Cream and whole milk pose much less problems. I would like to know why SKIM and not WHOLE milk would cause this severe reaction. I was 21 years old I am now 26 and still having moderate problems. Doctors shake their heads and write scripts for PREVICID.

Name: Susan
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Los Angeles, California
Time: 2000-08-15 13:15:11
Comments: I have been a non-dairy activist for the last 2 years. First of all, I lost around 10 pounds..just from quitting eating dairy. This site is wonderful and informative. Keep up the good work!!

Name: chris
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-08-15 09:57:05
Comments: I think your out of your mind!!!!

Name: Karla
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Orlando, FL
Time: 2000-08-15 09:08:58
Comments: This is a wonderfully educational site! I have a daughter with chronic asthma and we're going to give it a try!

Name: Pamela B
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: S. Salem, NY
Time: 2000-08-15 09:17:38
Comments: I am a 34 year old mother of 2 girls, ages 5 and 3. After having several miscarriages, I went on a macro-biotic diet (no sugar, dairy, caffeine, alcohol and 50 various vitamins a day, for 6 months). Three days off the diet, I was pregnant with my older daughter. Ever since I got pregnant with the her, I have been lactose intolerant. Is this because of the diet, or was the problem always there and I just didn't recognize it before the diet?

Name: Diane Atkinson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-08-14 18:17:25
Comments: My daughter spent her first birthday as well as most of the spring in the hospital with asthma/dble pneumonia. 5 months later an allergy test revealed milk, casein and whey were the problem. As soon as I removed these ingredients from her diet she quickly improved and became able to once again enjoy milk, cheese ice cream, cookies you name it. Until recentlly I thought this was great she can eat theese foods as she had been for the past 10 yrs. Recently I was watching a local televison program near Islip Long Island and my eyes were really opened when I heard how milk was now made. I'm very fortunate to have watched this program because now I'm going to try little by little to eliminate milk and milk by products from our diets. I can't say that I"m excited because we are a milk family but what will be exciting is to see how we will feel when we do. Thanks.. Diane Atkinosn...

Name: Gary Manigian
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Martinsville, NJ
Time: 2000-08-13 12:34:59
Comments: I haven't had dairy products in over 20 years, except for ice cream (I'm working on that) There is some really good organic ice cream plus some great non-dairy products from Rice Dream.

Name: S. Thanusundaram
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: India
Time: 2000-08-13 09:17:47
Comments: Informative and educative. Creats awareness about false and dangerous affinity towards milk. Good work. Let the net widen with other such products also.

Name: Ernist
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: u.s
Time: 2000-08-12 09:54:52
Comments: This stuff on milk is not true do you belong to p.e.t.a

PETA (no periods) stands for "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals" and, because they are an excellent and caring organization we DO link to them. Besides caring for the HUMAN animal (number ONE on our list) I agree with their concept of caring for ALL animals.

http://www.notmilk.com and http://www.notmilk.com/hs exist primarily for the HUMAN animals... which does, in turn, impact on the welfare of cows and calves (and the many bulls that get the ax because they are not needed).

Denial of the truth will NOT improve your health or lengthen your life (for free, yet). Rather... by ignoring the truth you aid and abet such medical problems as obesity, heart disease, faster growing cancers, osteoporosis, diabetes, asthma, behavioral problems, and more.

Read and heed... or ignore and go to seed. Your choice.

By the way... how are things in Mineola, TX?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: amanda crameri
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: victoria australia
Time: 2000-08-12 06:18:06
Comments: I have suspected for along time that diary was actually making us all sick and presenting various allergic reactions. Our dairy free home is full of healthy, happy children who can concentrate and achieve at school, children who can throw off viral flues very quickly and suffer from very little else. I had very sore pockets under arms in the gland area, a dairy free diet has eliminated these tokins, reduced breast fluid and tenderness. I feel terrific.

Name: Russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-08-10 08:59:52
Comments: Is this true????????"FDA has been receiving inquiries about whether insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1) associated with the use of recombinant bovine somatotropin (rbST) in dairy cows could have adverse effects on people who consume the milk from treated cows. Specifically, allegations have been made that dietary IGF-1 will cause breast cancer ....... FDA and other scientific and regulatory bodies have thoroughly examined the safety of milk produced by rbST-treated cows and have concluded that it is safe. The consumption of dietary IGF-1 plays no role in either inducing or promoting any human disease, nor does it cause malignant transformations of normal human breast cells .........the suggestion that IGF-1 in milk can induce or promote breast cancer in humans is scientifically unfounded and misguided. FDA has determined that milk from rBST-treated cows is safe for human consumption and has not been found to be different from milk from non-treated cows."

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Russ,

Monsanto sent their top scientists and attorneys to work at FDA to gain approval for their genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. A revolving door has rewarded two ex-FDA Commissioners with Monsanto employment.

History will judge the approval process for rbST as one of the great scientific frauds of the twentieth century.

Levels of IGF-I always increase after cows are injected with rbST. IGF-I, the most powerful growth hormone in a cow's body, is identical in structure and amino acid sequence to human IGF-I. This powerful growth hormone has been identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast, prostate, and lung cancer.

Should Monsanto or FDA wish to reveal the scope of their betrayal, they would release the Richard, Odaglia, and Deslex study in which every lab animal treated with Monsanto's hormone got cancer. They will never do so, of course.

FDA concluded that there were no biological effects on lab animals from rbST-treatment. A few months ago, as a result of my hungerstrike, FDA admitted (in a ten page letter) that their original conclusion was not based upon truth. Lab animals produced antibodies to these proteins, negating their untested conclusion that bovine proteins are degraded in the stomach and gut.

BOTTOM LINE: Milk is a hormonal delivery system. Genetic engineering increases the amounts of naturally occurring growth hormones in milk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-08-09 16:36:41
Comments: Is this true? The trace level of BST in milk does not differ significantly regardless of whether or not the animal has received supplemental BST. Furthermore, heat treatment, such as occurs with pasteurisation, inactivates 90% of the BST in milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

No, that is NOT true.

"FURTHERMORE," FDA's conclusion that heat treatment inactivates 90% of the BST in milk was a complete fraud.

They based that conclusion upon an experiment conducted by Paul Groenewegen and a group of scientists with Monsanto ties. (MacBride, Elsasser).

In the study, milk was pasteurized at 162 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 minutes and only nineteen percent of the BST was deactivated. Milk is normally pasteurized for 15 seconds at that temperature, NOT 30 minutes!

Monsanto and FDA nearly got away with that lie. The fraud was published in the August 24, 1990 issue of SCIENCE (Juskevich & Guyer). Not one of SCIENCE'S 500,000 readers caught this error. If not for my efforts, the world would not have learned of this deceit.

Apparantly, Russ, you are still being brainwashed by this lie. By any chance, are you studying dairy science at Cornell University?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Susan
Website:
Referred by: Lycos
From: Ridley Park, PA
Time: 2000-08-09 15:34:05
Comments: I wish I had heard this years ago. I drank tons of milk when I was pregnant. Of course, I made my little girl drink milk at every meal. At age 4-1/2, she was diagnosed with Type I, Insulin Dependent Juvenile Diabetes. It makes me sick to think this could have been avoided. Has anyone else experienced this with their children? Does anyone know how and where I can buy non-dairy substitutes? Anyone interested in a class action suit against the dairy industry?

Name: Merja Savoniemi
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sweden
Time: 2000-08-09 09:21:58
Comments: I knew that milk is not good for us, but so much that I read from your site I didn't know!! It's the same thing with water and other things we use and don't know "the secrets", because of political and economical reasons. The mankind destroyed the beaty we got from our Creator, and we must admit that without His help we are lost!! As I'm working with health products I'll spread the word of your fantastic information and altruistic work!!!!

Name: Cynthia Tiano
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Time: 2000-08-08 14:57:09
Comments: I didn't find you through AOL - but that was the closest menu choice. I heard Robert speak at AR 2000.

Name: Phil
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-08-08 01:09:08
Comments: "hey web master i hope your cancer kills you soon " What a horrible thing to say!! Read the presentations, accept it or question it . . but there is absolutely no need for comments like that. Man, what is this world coming to with remarks like that?

Name: Laura
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From:
Time: 2000-08-07 10:28:06
Comments: Human milk is good for human babies. The garbage cows milk you buy in the grocery store isn't good for anyone-not even baby cows. Thanks for helping get the word out. As a pedi nurse I have been very concerned about the detrimental effects on our children & wish more people knew.

Name: Nancy Higgins
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Virginia
Time: 2000-08-07 08:33:52
Comments: I agrre that milk and meat are very dangerous. Just look at all the products on TV to alleviate symptoms. All the products for heartburn. We are suppossed to go ahead and eat sausage then medicate ourselves. Also the same is true for Lactaid. The reason milk upsets our stomach is because it is for cows not humans. Why not just eliminate these foods? Only in America do people eat such stupid foods and then let the drug companies get rich on top of it!

Name: Karen W. Brown
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: York, PA
Time: 2000-08-06 20:40:58
Comments: I met you at the Whole Life Conference in Baltimore and purchaced 5 copies of your book which I have been sharing with anyone who will listen. I am a Lactation Consultant and see the damage that drinking milk does during pregnancy: allergies before birth, problems with sucking after birth, colic, reflux, asthma, eczema etc.even in breastfeeding babies whose mothers drank milk during pregnancy and continue afterwards. I've been trying to tell people this for over 10 years. I also work in a health food store where I hand out reprints and your website to anyone I can get to listen. Keep up the good work!

Name: Tom Mazza
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Garfield, N.J.
Time: 2000-08-06 07:45:44
Comments: I heard Robert Cohen on WOR AM last week, even taped most of it as I learned more than I wanted to know, but knowledge is power. Milk has been a big part of my life since I was a child. Now at age 45 I start to question things as far as my health & wellbeing. Feeding cows hormones & injections to increase milk production has to have effects that we still may not fully understand for years to come, but what we already know should serve notice to intelligent thinking people. We have been sold down the road by the media. The lies told to us on TV, radio & print have all been paid for by the nice folks who would rather see you sick or dead as long as their pockets get lined with your cash. But what the hell, after all these years, the American public will still vote for the political candidate with the best slogan or TV commercial. Enough said.... WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! Educate yourself & start asking questions before you & your family pay the price & become the new victims of engineered foods. I do not buy milk any more or drink it. No more ice cream & now to get off butter (not easy) I am making it my business to get off it & spread the word. Thanx Robert Cohen.

Name: Lucy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Scotland
Time: 2000-08-06 06:11:35
Comments: What a wonderful site - you are spreading powerful, health-promoting information here. Our health as a family has improved hugely after cutting out dairy four years ago - let's hope the truth becomes more widely known soon.

Name: Ashlie Visco
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Canada
Time: 2000-08-05 23:46:51
Comments: Milk is very good for you actually. As a public health nurse i see many women with Ostoperosis. for them the awnser is very simple they need Calcium. And milk is one of the best providers of this type of nurriture. Yes, some people are allergic to milk, however some people are allergic to cucumbers as well. Everyone is different. I hope you fokes don't expect everone to become a "VEGIN." We like in a well off country. Why arn't you proud of that? Women are made to excreet milk to feed their young, it's natural thing. Brest milk is saterated with the mothers immune system to protect th baby, because babies they are born without an immune system, and need this until they develop their own! I SUPPORT MILK AND THE INDUSTRY (which creates needed jobs)

Next time you visit, try reading something. If you have problems
in that department... try the "short course":

http://www.dorway.com/milkinfo.txt

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: jd
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-08-04 23:18:49
Comments: hey web master i hope your cancer kills you soon

Your like-minded dishonorable fellows at the FDA and Monsanto wish
the same thing, I'm sure.

Sorry, but I refuse to expire until nameless, irresponsible,
unaccountable and just plain MEAN sorry examples of humanity
like you are out of business.

I owe that much to my grandchildren!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Dr. Isa Infante
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Knoxville, Tennessee
Time: 2000-08-04 22:12:56
Comments: Finally, the word is out about dairy products......I consider dairy the no. l incubator of disease (no. 2 is sugar, no. 3 is land-mined salt (which contains sugar and aluminum), and no. 4 is meat. I will refer your website to as many people as I can. Thanks for the good work.

Name: Noel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 2000-08-01 13:47:29
Comments: Well, friends, if you're gonna post a guestbook-message from a Hagelin supporter, here's my push for Nader: from what I've seen of his own eating habits (in person), not to mention his consumer advocacy, Mr. Nader is as close as you're going to get to a candidate who would help crack down on the Dairy world! Bush and Gore make we wanna Ralph... Noel

Actually, no president has ever been "ideal". For too many years too many folks have said it seems to be a choice between the lessor of evils. Many say Regan was great for America... but he is the one who let aspartame get to market, and if he used it... that may have cost him his mind.

Nixon was said to have been great at foreign policy, but he is the one who took three million from the dairy folks and then twiddled with milk price supports that still bite the American taxpayer in the wallet.

The purpose of NOTMILK.com has nothing to do with politics. It has more to do with the RESULT of bad politics. NOTMILK, hungerstrike, DairyEducationBoard.com (new), and others are concerned with human health and the provable fact that cow's milk and dairy is VERY detrimental to the health of all who consume it.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: mr_natural
Website:
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From:
Time: 2000-07-31 00:55:51
Comments: Spread the word! Stop the insanity! Vote for John Hagelin! "it is only in compassion that wisdom finds its fullest expression"

Name: Millie
Website:
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From: Phoenix, AZ
Time: 2000-07-30 13:32:26
Comments: This is a very informative site. I have never liked milk but I do eat cheese but not for long! Thanks for the information.

Name: Harry Beckham
Website:
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From: Altamonte Springs, Florida 32701
Time: 2000-07-29 12:26:45
Comments: Hello Again, I'm a Type II Diabetic. It's been one month now and I've not had a Gucose reading above 123 and I read twice a day, and alternate AM & PM to Noon & supper. I went for my 90 day check up on 7/19/00 and got results of my 7/12/00 fasting Blood (HbA1C)Test. It was down to 6.0% from 6.3% in April/00. My Oct/99 was 5.9% and went up to 6.1% in Jan/00, and up again in April to 6. as stated above. I had to do something to stop the spikes(high/low reading) ,and the higher AbA1c Sugar results. So I started a Duel Diet of: "Eat Right for your Blood Type" B+; and "Not Milk". The results in just 30 days speaks for itself! My goal is to be off my Meds(Glucaphage 500mg twice a day)by Jan 2001. I've been drinking White Wave"Silk"Plain Soymilk distributed by White Wave, Inc.Boulder, C) 80301 and sold in most Albertson Stores. Surf White Wave: I also have been eating Soy Maze Cheese(no casein), and Millet & Oat Breads(no casein) and lots of Turkey. Fish, Eggs and Red meats are okay for my Blood type though. I'm mixing some vegan burgers in to off set too much beef. I have given up all chicken(eggs are okay), Ham, Pork, Bacon,ShellFish,Shrimp,Crab,Lobster,Clams,Corn,Wheat,Barley,Tomatoes,Ketchup(Very Bad for me), Black Beans, Avocado, Olives, Popcorn and most Peanuts. Even though Almonds and Walnuts are okay for my type. The Proof is coming in so far, and my goal for 2001 is in reach. Today is my birthday, and what a gift! The past 2 1/2 years of up and down now look like a thing of the past. Exercise on my small trampoline of 300 to 350 jumping jacks helps each day. This is done inside with AC on. Thank you for the gift of Life! Harry Beckham

Thank you VERY much for this fine "payday" for our
efforts to spread the WHOLE truth.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Sarah
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Missouri
Time: 2000-07-28 20:32:03
Comments: Do you honestly believe all this crap you're pushing off as "science"? Have you even taken a science course in your life? After reading through the so-called research (that is, before I had to quit because it got too ignorant), I have yet to see any shred of scientific evidence. All I read was a bunch of "when milk consumption increased, x also increased". Pushing off such figures as hard proof is the worst kind of faulty science. However, I'll give you this: for undiluted crackpot knowledge, you're obviously undisputed.

Sigh! Please visit notmilk.com
... this time with your eyes open and with an unbiased mind.

If that is not possible... then please stay in good standing
with your health insurance company and DO keep your
premium paid in full.


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Rich Boyajian
Website:
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From: Boston, MA
Time: 2000-07-27 13:50:35
Comments: I am a cancer survivor who is studing to become a nurse practitioner. Most peopel are not aware of the dangers and expect the government to protect us. I have a daughter who I will not give her BGH.

Name: Jenny Easton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 2000-07-27 10:55:53
Comments: It's amazing how little I knew about milk!!! I'm a regular milk drinker and now that I've read the facts, I think I will reconsider! Thank you for posting such useful information on your site! JEN


Name: Eileen Rolon
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Somerville,NJ
Time: 2000-07-26 20:55:33
Comments: Apparently I have been in a coma! I never really liked milk - thank god - but used to love cheese. Now I have every reason in the world to go organic veg - my daughter! She will never drink that crap!! In fact, after I stopped nursing I had put her on milk-based formula, after about two months she would begin to vomit about half of the bottle back. So on the advice of the same friend who recommended this website, I switched to soy - its not organic , but it has to be an improvement, she doesn't vomit at all !!! It's good to be awake!!! er

Name: Max Leitch
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Morton, IL
Time: 2000-07-26 17:48:51
Comments: I have recently started a complete plant-based diet. I am 17 years old. For the past year I have been having huge headpains in the back of my head, that by the end of the day would move forward to the rest of my head. It is the worst pain imaginable. It has been a month since I have stopped eating animal products and my head pains have completely gone away since then. I don't really know if they have anything to do with eachother, but it does sound like a huge coincidence.

Aspartame (Equal/Nutrasweet) causes headaches in many people...
as does mono sodium glutamate (MSG, the flavor enhancer) used in
MOST processed foods. Both are "excitotoxins", and when taken
together they CAN cause amplified damage (not unlike taking certain
drugs with alcohol).

See: http://www.dorway.com on aspartame and

See: http://www.truthinlabeling.org on MSG.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Sara
Website:
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From:
Time: 2000-07-23 16:39:45
Comments: There is absolutely nothing wrong with drinking milk!!!! I live on a dairy farm and I think that it is wonderful stuff! It is very healthy!!! I don't agree with anything that you say!!!

They say that "ignorance is bliss". That was certainly true for me for the 60 some-odd years during which I consumed large amounts of cow's milk and dairy... all that really tasty stuff! (an acquired taste, by the way).

However, a bit over two years ago I was introduced to the WHOLE truth about cow's milk. After learning about the powerful IGF-1 growth hormone, that is identical between cows and humans, I now understand WHY my surprise case of prostate cancer grew so rapidly that it had already spread by the young age of 55. IGF-1... is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of cancers.

I have been dairy-free for over two years... and my often-cursed cancer now grows FOUR TIMES more *SLOWLY* without that extra IGF-1 my blood. For me, and I would submit FOR ALL CANCER VICTIMS... cow's milk is NOT a "taste to die for"!

The problem is, dear misguided Sara, that thanks to *MOST* governments, medical systems, insurance companies, and forms of mass media... THOSE WHO NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH ARE DENIED IT!

For those who are not yet fighting an already diagnosed cancer... there are still the OTHER 58 hormones, scores of allergens, herbicides, pesticides, PCB's, dioxins, extra iodine, traces of up to 52 antibiotics, species-specific lactoferrins and immunoglobulins that create antibodies, calcium-depleting protein (casein), saturated fats (50% of whole milk, 34% of "2%" milk), enough cholesterol in three glasses of milk to equal 53 slices of bacon, viruses, perhaps some paraTB, prions (that lead to Mad Cow Disease)... all topped off by an FDA limit of 20 MILLION live bacteria and 750 MILLION somatic (PUS!) cells per liter. And... there is MORE!

Oops... sorry, Sara. Sorry to destroy your blissful ignorance.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim


Name: Denise Cohn
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Exton, Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-07-22 09:43:50
Comments: I love your website and visit it often to keep up on the latest news. It is sickening to think of what Monsanto gets away with, especially when it is effecting the nations health and the health of our children. I would love to know the number of dairy farmers who actually drink the poison that they create and how many have soy milk in their refrigerators? Keep up the great work!

Name: not j. jackson
Website:
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From:
Time: 2000-07-21 11:14:58
Comments: i could really be doing other things than writing a comment for a milk ad ban, but this is silly. i am quite educated in the "getting an a from hot teacher" subject. i am 24, and did that at 17, and the teacher was 22. i am not ashamed, and got cool points for doing it. i am not saying that all teachers should be doing this, actully it is wrong. but, this is a milk ad. i had no idea who josh jackson was, much less dawson creek, or for that matter, ever seen a milk ad for the mustache, except for mark mcguire. i think whever started this, had good intentions, but has totally blown this out of proportion. i found this site looking at a search for "can someone drink a gallon of milk in one hour and not puke?" next thing i know, i have josh jackson on my screen. sorry, you guys have too much time on your hands. please write back with response. thank you.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I imagine that the "A" you received came from a teacher whose expertise was in a subject other than English.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: laurel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 2000-07-20 00:08:21
Comments: Hey, just wanted to say I think this is a great website. This information needs to be out there more. Keep it up.

Name: Kim Dell'Agnese
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Nashville, TN
Time: 2000-07-19 21:52:42
Comments: WOW

Name: Matt
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: nj
Time: 2000-07-19 21:04:37
Comments: I don't buy it. This web page was made up by a bunch of lactose intolerant losers

Name: lee o
Website:
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From: Northwest Indiana
Time: 2000-07-19 12:09:26
Comments: Heard you on the Mike Segal talk radio show recently, compelling, intelligent and convincing information was presented. Since the show I've made the transformation to non dairy, began using "Sun Soy" brand milk and enjoying the taste! I now tell people of your web site, keep up the good work. I was familiar with the works of Jethro Kloss 20 years ago, thanks for reinforcing my latent beliefs in a non-dairy, very limited meat consumption diet, life style. Lee O

Name: pulin
Website:
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From: ny/nj
Time: 2000-07-18 11:15:14
Comments: I haven't been to your page in a while. It's really great, but what I find even better is the guestbook and how so many people have positive things to say. Keep up the great work. -Pulin

Name: Harry Beckham
Website:
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From: Altamonte Springs, Florida 32701
Time: 2000-07-17 10:49:53
Comments: Dear Mr Cohen: I found you on the Art Bell Show or Coast to Coast Show with Mike Segal, and it was enlightning. You need to come back on again, as more people need to find it. I'm a Type II Diabetic(3 yrs.) I take 500 gms. two times a day. I exercise and diet. For the past 18 days I've been following the "NotMilk Plan" and also follow the "Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type" too! Six months ago my A1C reading was 5.9 but in April it was 6.1 and my Glucose readings were even higher for May and June.(81/156) So on June 30 I went to "NotMilk.Com" and also started the "EatRight 4 My Bood Type B+" diet. Now my readings are between 77 and 121 and much closer together. I'm not having any spikes like last year. I have a question though. There are conflicts on the two diets, and I'm trying to balance the two. My main question is the product from Soy: "Lecithin" which is a protein Gluten,which I hope is a good one? Thank You for your help, Harry Beckham so

Name: Mathew
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Athens, Georgia
Time: 2000-07-14 12:57:21
Comments: Robert, Thank you for all of your hard work over the years. I appreciate the enormous amount of effort that it must have taken to present such a case. I imagine that you aren't getting rich off of any of this, at least, not monetarily. In my own experience, ending dairy consumption made my asthma disappear, helped me drop 50 pounds (to reach and maintain my ideal weight), gave me more energy to do things like run triathlons, and unexpectantly ended the morning ritual of clearing tons of junk from my nose. I feel so much healthier, and I wish I could share how I feel instead of trying to explain it with words. It just doesn't do it justice. It's all an uphill battle against an incredibly well-financed campaign, as you intimately know. I try to be active in my community and educate people about issues such as these. You've helped provide a great amount of ammunition that is making people all over the country question this food. Please keep up effort into the web site and the rest of your work. Thank you again, Mathew Grimm

Name: Starr
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle, WA
Time: 2000-07-11 15:33:52
Comments: i've been vegan for over 2 yrs and feel soooo much better....my asthma has basically disappeared, my allergies have improved, no more cramps, the list goes on. it's hard to explain to people who consume massive quantities of dairy and claim they feel fine that milk is "evil" and damaging to their health, not to mention disgusting. maybe i should forward them this website?!? : )

Name: Gene Martin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NH
Time: 2000-07-11 10:54:49
Comments: I just got your book, "Milk, the deadly poison" from a friend. I look forward to reading it as I have beleived for a long time that Milk is bad. I have read "Fit For Life" and they are very much against dairy product because of the adverse effects it has on us physically. I am against the promotion of Milk for reasons of personal health, but I also don't like what is happening on farms, to the animals. We live in a wicked world full of greed, and that is what spurrs these types of things on. I look forward to a better world in the future. Psalm 37:11 & 29

Name: amanda
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: maine
Time: 2000-07-10 21:39:48
Comments: kewl very interesting

Name: riddhi gandhi
Website:
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From: india
Time: 2000-07-10 07:32:37
Comments: its fab

Name: Jerome Dingess jr
Website:
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From: West Virginia
Time: 2000-07-09 00:09:38
Comments: Keep up the great work. Get the message out and save our lives from the big business of Milk, the cow disease epidemic......


Name: Ron Knutt
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: North Dakota
Time: 2000-07-06 23:23:34
Comments: Thanks for the information. I had quite milk 13 years ago, as I was putting on to much weight. I read "FIT FOR LIFE" and "FIT FOR LIFE II" and had quite all meat for quite sometime, but I started to eat fish and now that I have read the "MAD COWBOY" all meat is gone. I was still eating more than my share of ICE CREAM, but as of 2 weeks ago I quite this also. I can notice my stomach is already getting smaller.

Name: Curtis Harris
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Emeryville, California 10 miles east of San Francisco
Time: 2000-07-06 19:19:54
Comments: See the email that I sent the notmilk workshop about Milk making thousands in Japan today. This is an important. Its a real cover-up! The story has already been pulled from the AP wire. See original story at http://professorcurtis.com/MilkSick.htm Curtis.

Name: Janet
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta, GA
Time: 2000-07-06 17:31:50
Comments: Wow, what a great site! It's absolutely chilling to me to think how many people in this country are happily guzzling, cancer-stimulating hormones and feeding them to their children. I gave up dairy products a year ago after two years of irritable bowel syndrome and have been symptom-free ever since. It pains me to watch my mother put milk on her cereal because it is "good" for her osteoporosis and then listen to her cough and gag up mucus for an hour afterward. Thanks for some good supporting evidence to use on people who don't comprehend why I wouldn't want to drink milk or eat cheese. Keep up the good work!

Name: Count
Website:
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From:
Time: 2000-06-29 07:06:17
Comments: Great site, I am going to be adding it as a link on my (in development) website and have already added it to another one. I am especially greatful for the genetic engineering information which I always find most interesting. Thanks Again.

Name: Dr.Susan Eissinger, D.C.
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: chico, california
Time: 2000-06-27 20:19:25
Comments: Hi Robert. I heard your interview on Coast to Coast AM, it was excellent! I have been a Vegan for over twelve years, and a vegetarian for over thirty five years. I tell all my patients to get off dairy products if they want to prevent health problems. You are totally right. Dairy is destroying our health. It is imperative to get children off dairy immediately and encourage parents to start giving them fresh fruit and vegetable juices. Thank you for bringing light to this subject. Sincerely, Dr.Eissinger

Name: Noel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 2000-06-26 13:43:28
Comments: Erich (Sock Sniffer??), Try this, aside from ditching milk. Give up the meat and cheese, go on a colon and liver cleansing program, start juicing, spend time in fresh air, exercise, pray, and love and be thankful for your life and friends. That should do the trick; but don't look outward for changes, look inward.

Name: Angela Trenholm
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Kelowna, BC, Canada
Time: 2000-06-24 01:04:20
Comments: I've heard many negative comments about milk over the last ten years, but your site really brought everything into perspective. It makes me sick to see how power hungry people can be, at the expense of so many people.

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 2000-06-23 19:18:17
Comments: Well, I haven't consumed milk for 2 weeks now. This is just an experiment to see what happens - it's not a permanent change. Now, although I've stopped drinking milk, I still eat meat, and some cheese. I was expecting, based on what I've read on this site, that I would have experienced some new level of clarity, some sort of quasi-religious ascent to a new plane of reality, as the fog induced by a lifetime of daily milk consumption cleared. It hasn't happened yet. When will the universe lay bare her primal secrets to me? When will I experience the epiphany of revelations? As a footnote, I can't even be sure that I've lost weight yet, since I haven't been to the gym for 2 weeks.

Name: Mike Jones
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Dell City tx
Time: 2000-06-23 18:35:38
Comments: The heck with all you whackos. I'm drinking milk.

Name: Bill Lee
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ohio, USA
Time: 2000-06-23 18:37:05
Comments: I was greatly enlightened upon hearing you on the (Art Bell's) "Coast to Coast AM" show with Mike Seagal. Driving the Highways of this great country of our's that night, I could not wait until I was able to take some "hometime", allowing me to log-on and more deeply research your website and links. I was totally apalled at the cover-ups, half-truths, and down right lies that we have all been fed (along with the hormones, antibiotics and puss) by the Dairy Industry. My wife and I are now on the path to a more pure and healthy diet. Though not one that is strictly vegetarian (we still are eating poultry and fish), we are enjoying, in a major way, all of the new (to us) food choices out there. We are totally NON-DAIRY and NON-MONSANTO, and are currently informing as many of our friends as possible of the blatent abuse of trust that has been played out upon all of us. Thank you for your honesty, and desire to spread the truth! May God richly bless you and your's!

Name: PYROBOB
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ATLANTA,GA.
Time: 2000-06-23 02:43:10
Comments: GREAT SITE. GOOD INFO ON THE EVILS OF MILK. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON THE PROTEIN PRODUCTS USED BY BODYBUILDERS.

Name: B K Bakshi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: INDIA
Time: 2000-06-22 17:46:37
Comments: I am an dairy technocrat having worked for 35 years in this sector with asi's largest milk co-operative-AMUL and also associated with non-governrnment organization working for the cause-animal protection/salvation and vegetarianism in india which off late becoming controvercial although I see lot of difference in dairy industry in USA and India-I have my apprehension on agreeing to many views expressed thro'several platforms-The reason being the milk production and professional way of making the industry viable for very large mass of producers who live in villages and earn thro'this vehicle of changes which has benifitted a very large numbers of farmers and more so helped in many fold to elevate the standard of living,availability of basic infrastructure at village level etc.And also hold different views on the processes like Pasteurization-Homoginazation too;Milk is not Myth-has its own values.Thanks NAME:/B K Bakshi

Name: elisa marcus hooker
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: atlanta georgia
Time: 2000-06-22 15:21:44
Comments: i enjoyed your website immensely. i am done with milk and have switched to soy milk or rice milk. i do soybased nutritional supplements to replenish my system from those vitamins and minerals it is depleted of. please visit me at www.gotsoy.org i am not a total vegan but i am on my way. thanks elisa

Name: Nora Lee
Website:
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From: Cow Country, Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-06-21 23:06:02
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I'm thankful I was fed soy protein 45 years ago! Never have acquired the lust for blood & pus. The information available on this site is quite provocative. I am aware that there is a revolving door for the Monsanto/FDA/USDA triad but what I've read here is almost UNBELIEVABLE! Time for some letter-writing..... I've passed on info from this site to friends and have been asked about your "credentials". Could you share them with us? Respectfully yours, NL

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nora Lee,

Thomas Edison was once asked to explain the secrets to his successes and include his credentials. Edison's response bears tribute to age-old advice regarding human discovery and progress:

"My success is due to one-precent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration."

I have basic tools, of course. As an undergraduate, I performed research in the field of psychoneuroendocrinology. One lesson, taught well, was to identify and eliminate extraneous variables during the course of designing an experiment. This skill enabled me to peel apart layer after layer of scientific fraud during the course of FDA's approval process for Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone.

I consider myself to be a messenger. Is there any other individual or group on the World Wide Web with 1784 letters in his guestbook? Can you find one man or woman who has written a column, in his or her field for every single day during a continuous 500 day period? Read the letters, with my responses. Read the 'squirts' of notmilk wisdom. Every day I continue to learn new evidence about milk's harmful effects, and share them with my readers. My life work is who I am. Those are my credentials.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Denise M. Aranda
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: El Paso, Texas
Time: 2000-06-21 19:18:28
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I will do my part in helping spread the word about the evil Monsanto. I truely enjoyed hearing your lecture in El Paso as part of the Vegetarian Society's function. Thank you for your dedication and for your committment on an issue that seems to be resinanting to deaf ears of money misers!

Name: carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-06-21 01:58:27
Comments: I support many of the philosophies of this cause and I personally do not consume dairy products. However, since you have gone off the hunger strike you are back to your rude comments. For example, belittling your wife for buying non-dairy topping. In your efforts to make sure that Americans are informed with truth and have the free will to make their own choices - you continue to demean others for making those same choices. This will never win support and therefore you are hurting this cause in many ways rather than helping it. Perhaps you could be a little more diplomatic in your insults - isn't that the American way?? The truth should be told - but then it is up to the individual to make their own decisions. Even your wife has that right, believe it or not.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Carmen,

I disagree with you. I continued to make RUDE comments during my hungerstrike. One simply has to read my testimony before USDA & FDA to understand that I will use my brand of humor, sarcasm, and wit to call 'em as I see 'em.

Visit http://www.notmilk.com/hs/fdatestim.html for the FDA testimony.

Visit http://www.notmilk.com/hs/usdatest.html for the USDA testimony.

It is true that I insulted my wife for buying non-dairy creamer. She should have read the ingredients and have noted the presense of sodium caseinate, a milk derivative. My wife has heard me lecture about this at least eleventy-seven times, and knows better than most the effects that casein has on our children.

When it concerns milk and dairy consumption, I will continue to be the same obnoxious character that I have always been! I promise to be a bit gentler with those who have not previously heard the truth about milk!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michael Hedstrom
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Illinois
Time: 2000-06-20 11:59:21
Comments: I heard you on Coast to Coast and was intrigued. Too bad one can't sue the Dairy Council as was done to the Tobacco industry.There seems to be a great deal more wool being pulled over the publics' eyes in this case. I don't seem to recall any sports heros coming on my TV saying "Got Smokes?"

Name: qwazz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Jersey
Time: 2000-06-19 22:54:10
Comments: METHINKS YOU're a couple fries short of a HAPPY MEAL.

Name: Jo Ann
Website:
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From: Las Vegas, Nv
Time: 2000-06-19 19:28:01
Comments: You were a Great Guest on the Coast to Coast radio broadcast. If people would just give ONE thought to WHAT they eat, a cow, a pig, chicken on, and on. "Truth" is where you find it!! I recall the follwing bit of information years ago. My oldest son suggestsed I put it "in writing" and post it on the internet for others. My daughter-in-law liked it and posted it on the fridge door for their two girls. Here goes >>>> "Keeping it Simple" Breakfat; Waking up and getting started with the rising sun. Fruits that grow on trees are great morning starters and eliminators. Lunch; The moon meal as the sun gets closer, the green leafy fibrosis "stuff" that grows above the ground are sweepers that cleans and sweeps the inside walls of your clogged vessels. Dinner; The evening meal as the sun descends so low in the sky, the root vegetables. The body builders, all the foods growing below the ground. A way to keep in-tune with "Mother Earth" Sleep well while your body does the rest!!

Name: Karl Jungclaus
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Tucson
Time: 2000-06-19 07:25:29
Comments: Outstanding site!! If people would just allow themselves to read this site instead of watching TV.

Name: Carlos
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minnesota
Time: 2000-06-19 02:06:02
Comments: I heard you on Jeff Rense last night. I have to tell you, im throwing out the milk in my fridge and im never going back. Ive always wondered why i felt like krap after eating large quantities of dairy products. Now I know why. Thanks Mr. Cohen

Name: Ruth Ann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-06-18 05:00:53
Comments: I love your website. I don't drink milk, and rarely eat cheese. You have simply enlightened me with a few dozen more reasons to avoid milk. I became a vegetarian for health reasons, and have never felt better. I am 2.5 stone lighter than I was two years ago, have started exercising regularly again and am running my first 10 k run in 12 years. I am considering a vegan diet and will most likely make the transition over a few month's time. Thumbs up.

Name: Monika Penner
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: B.C. (Canada)
Time: 2000-06-17 20:57:37
Comments: Lovely site... I visit frequently... Nice that this site has gained much publicity... I see links to it quite often. When and if I ever update my site, I would love to add your site as a link (if I may- you can email me re: this). Yours is an important message... Told in such a stylish way! Cheers! Monika

Name: Monika C. Pattantyus
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Watertown, MA
Time: 2000-06-16 13:53:14
Comments: I am vegan for health reason, and this website confirms what I already know about milk. I also wholeheartedly agree with Robert Cohen's statements about the FDA and USDA: they are all liars and are controlled by the big corporations in the milk, sugar, meat, chicken, poultry, etc., industries. I do not trust a blessed thing these agencies say as they have no clue what they're talking about. All they care about are dollar signs, not the well-being of people in this country.

Name: Christina M. Chan
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minneapolis, MN
Time: 2000-06-15 21:41:13
Comments: Okay, here are my comments. This site is exceptional! I am planning to email people with this site address starting tonite. I am so emotionally charged by the entire issue of GE foods, etc. and am doing my part to bring awareness to others on the subject. I cannot understand how there can be so many ignorant people on this planet! It is not even funny is it. Anyway, thank you for this website and I will be sure to "pass it on".

Name: Patricia
Website:
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From: New York
Time: 2000-06-15 14:36:19
Comments: I just wanted to say that my husband and I have been dairy free for six months, and we have never felt better. I truly beleive that there is a massive conspiracy going on to keep people from knowing about the evils of dairy. It is such a terribly frightening situation. As soon as people find out that we live "dairy-free", they think there is something wrong with US!! It's as though everyone is brainwashed or something! Thank you so much for your informative site. I'm sure it is a useful tool in letting people know the actual TRUTH about dairy, rather than what the media and dairy farmers are trying to pass off as fact. Thanks again! Patricia

Name: Soksniffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Parts Unknown
Time: 2000-06-14 19:37:45
Comments: Another milk horror story for you all... I have a dog -- a dachshund -- named Snickers, whom I love very much. Snickers is the best dog in the whole wide world, so cute and clever; I have two little balls that he just loves to play with and lick... it's adorable! Anyway, he also loves looking in the refrigerator whenever I get food out. Today, I went to the fridge and was reaching for a jar of pickles in the back and as I pulled it out, I accidentally knocked my old gallon of milk (on which, with a sharpie pen, I've drawn a picture of a skull and crossbones as a constant reminder of milk being a deadly poison) out onto poor Snickers! There was a muffled yelp, then he just laid there whining! I think the heavy milk jug broke hapless Snickers' little leg! I took him to the vet, and he's still there, so I don't know how bad off he is, but when I find out, you can rest assured I'll be filing a class-action lawsuit against the monstrous criminals at Alta-Dena and the Dairy Council. Poor, poor Snickers... please be all right!

Name: Kent Hawley
Website:
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From: Spokane, Wa...
Time: 2000-06-14 18:42:09
Comments: Heard your interview on coast to coast a.m. The info blew me away. I think of all the years (50+) that I've believed the milk myth. I have ordered your book and can't wait to share this info with other people. I can imagine most people will not want to hear nor accept the reality of the myth. Thanks God Bless and keep up the good work

Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-06-14 07:14:43
Comments: If milk were actually good for you, why aren't people out there sucking on Cow teats, instead of buying treated, added to/subtracted from and bottled Cow milk?

Name: K Kotongan
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-06-14 05:14:23
Comments: I am quite impressed with your work, and also grateful. I have always been quite healthy, no health problems I would consider out of the ordinary, then again I'm lactose intolerant, nature's way of saying that cow milk is not for me I guess. I also have a two-year-old who I was just advised by the pediatrician to give more milk, lots of milk (meaning cow milk), even though I am still nursing, and giving my child the benefit of my own milk. I know people have said that milk is the perfect food with protein and calcium and all, and I'm inclined to agree... cow milk IS the perfect food... if you happen to be a calf! Likewise, my milk is the perfect food for my child, providing the appropriate balance of nutrition and loving closeness. I have long thought that the consumption of cows and dairy products was probably not the best course, and now that I've had the benefit of your work, I am done with that. Upon hearing what you have to say (especially about what cows are fed!) I was moved up out of my chair and into the kitchen where I found myself dumping most of the contents of a carton of vitamin D milk. I also appreciate that you provide links for alternatives, and there are so many! I've dabbled in alternative foods and cooking, now I simply have the information to motivate me to commit to making that my full-time menu. Thank you, and I know you know this, but please ignore the nay-sayers, what you present and your hard work are invaluable and greatly appreciated!

Name: Soksniffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Parts Unknown
Time: 2000-06-13 16:20:12
Comments: I did what you said and asked myself why Ms. Spears would have lowered herself -- gone "slumming," if you will -- to appear in a milk-mustache ad, but given all of the evidence, I think the answer is: she didn't. Britney, as is well documented in interviews, plans to abstain from certain relations until she marries, and I'm certain that this would include such activities as would cause her to appear in such a compromising photograph, with that awful white substance smeared over her lip. Thus, the only reasonable conclusion is that the pictures are fakes; the internet is rife with such doctored photographs. Now, as for me being a "pawn," as you so callously put it, of the anti-dairy industry... checkmate, Mr. Heino (if that is even your real name). I say checkmate because (and you can ask *yourself* this!) how could any drink that's supposedly good for you go bad? I've never heard of water going bad just because it got left out in the sun, and MY evian doesn't have an expiration date on the bottle! The same goes for healthy fruit juices -- I have a can of pineapple juice in my cupboard that will outlive me if I never open it! And, the final nail in the coffin of your argument (YOUR coffin is being nailed shut by your foolhardy insistence on consuming that deadly, deadly poison): Three of the letters in "milk" are the same as three of the letters in the word "kill." To put it another way, the words "milk" and "kill" are 75% identical. As a (supposedly) intelligent individual, you can't honestly think that's just a coincidence, can you?

Name: Thomas
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington DC
Time: 2000-06-13 00:09:53
Comments: whoah. geez. chill. Enough with the hurting-oy. Anyway, as you can guess, I'm a lifelong omnivore. I don't judge people on what they eat. Hell, I got vegan friends. (by the way DON'T eat those hotess fruit cakes, beef fat is one of the ingrediants--i.e. cherries, sugar + beef fat, trust me) You don't have to gain support to your cause by scare tactics and pseudo science. Take the early sexual maturity nonsense, the reason that has happened is genetic variance due to interracial and interethnic marriages mixed with the estrogen in crazy-ass plastics. Also, women have better nutrition in the last 30 years, same with Japan after WWII, just look at the height of WWII Japanese and their children. (also we're not getting a massive surge of gynecomastia, so it shoots that theory to hell, I've been drinking milk for years, and I still have normal pecs) Just keep eating the way you do, I'll keep eating the way I do. Don't be so zealous about converts or anything, that just makes you as crazy as fundamentalists who believe everyone else is going to hell. Just chill, don't make stuff up. You all chew on a stick of celery and sip a V-8 by the pool, while I chew on a slim jim and sip my milk on the seat next to you. Crownseraph- "Go after the true evils of prejudice and conflict, and join forces with your mental opponents, so that you may live in harmony."

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany, California
Time: 2000-06-12 21:59:38
Comments: I've got 4 words for Soksniffer - get real you pawn of the anti-dairy industry. Ask yourself this, if milk were actually bad for you, why would the lovely Britney Spears be drinking it?

Name: JeNeen
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: atlanta, GA
Time: 2000-06-12 20:09:22
Comments: The book was awesome. This is vitally important information and I pray that millions will get the picture.

Name: Mary
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: St. Louis, MO
Time: 2000-06-12 17:14:04
Comments: In reading a few of the more recent comments, it is clear that some people would rather stick to the beliefs they were brought up with than to open their minds to new possibilities. I refer specifically to 'David' and 'Kuni.' David was emphatic that everything has risks and dangers, and that even fruits and veggies contain chemicals. Both of those statements are true; however, there are ways to minimize one's exposure to the risks and dangers of life. Common sense tells us to wear seat belts in our cars, look both ways before crossing the street, and avoid standing under a tree in a windstorm.

Likewise, we know that consuming animal products is a very real danger to our health. There may be debate as to the extent of the danger, but it exists nonetheless. While produce that comes from non-organic growers does contain a small percentage of pesticide residue, it pales in comparison to the amount of chemicals retained in the muscle tissue of butchered animals and in the milk produced by dairy cows.

Furthermore, the range of chemicals given to meat and dairy animals is extensive: growth hormones, antibiotics, pesticides and herbicides on their feed, chemicals to reduce fat content in the meat. These are consumed daily by the animals on today's intensive farms. Not to mention the ground remains of dead animals, which the USDA permits as feed material. Does avoiding meat and dairy guarantee a long and pain-free life? Of course not; but it certainly gives a person a much better chance of having fewer chronic illnesses.

As far as Kuni's comment regarding calcium goes, broccoli is hardly the only calcium alternative. In addition, the calcium needs of an individual go up in direct proportion to his or her protein intake. What that means is that the more meat you consume the more calcium you NEED to consume. Protein leeches calcium from the bones, so a vegan naturally requires less calcium than a meat-eater.

People should research issues and open their minds to alternate possibilities before automatically dismissing what they don't understand. Fortunately, most of the comments indicate that people are receptive to these ideas and willing to give them a chance.
Thanks for allowing me to speak.


Name: THE DAIRY DEFENDER
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: AMERICA'S DAIRYLAND
Time: 2000-06-12 17:02:12
Comments: HMMMMMM....., READ ALL THE ARTICLES, CHECKED OUT YOUR WORK, AND FOUND LOTS MISSING. WHAT WAS MISSING? TRY THE TRUTH. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TRY TO ADD THE TRUTH NEXT TIME, OR AT LEAST THE WHOLE ARTICLES SO PEOPLE WON'T BE SWAYED BY YOUR CHEAP LIES."VIVA LAS DAIRY PRODUCTS!" LOVE,THE DAIRY DEFENDER

Name: angie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: leesport, pa
Time: 2000-06-12 14:39:14
Comments: I would like to know where you get your info or it is something that you just fabricate to scare ignorant people. Milk is nature's most perfect food providing your body with calcium, protein, potassium and many other nutrients essential to the body. I come from a dairy farm and cows are not treated horribly as you would like to have people believe. They are well cared for, having balanced meals and comfortable living conditions. I suggest that you visit a dairy farm before you misinform people about the well-being of cows. As for you views on milk and dairy products, you are simply a poor ignorant, misinformed person.

Name: Soksniffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Parts Unknown
Time: 2000-06-12 13:17:26
Comments: Poor Eric Heino. He just can't accept the truth. Clearly, he's been brainwashed by the Dairy Council... or should I say "milkwashed"? You think my scenario is "rather unbelievable," Mr. Heino? Well, according to an episode of the Simpsons that was rerun last night, such a scenario is, horrifyingly, all too real! During a car chase, in which two of Springfields finest and Bart (in a ride-along) were pursuing the vicious criminal Snake, an innocent motorist was run off the road only to crash into a milk truck, which then EXPLODED on impact!! They don't just make this stuff up, Mr. Heino! Now, you're a grown man, and you can make your own decisions... if you choose to believe that milk isn't as dangerous as portrayed on the Simpsons, you're well within your rights. But please, won't *someone* think of the children?

Name: Susan Henry
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Bullhead City, Arizona
Time: 2000-06-11 23:44:08
Comments: I heard you on coast to coast and was so interested in your studies and I had to see what your web site had to say. Since I heard you I have now swore off, all dairy products and am looking forward to a healthy way of life. I have asthma, suffer from depression and always been sick almost all winter and I'm looking forward to good health this winter. Thank You for your information.

Name: Evonne Garcia
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Phx.AZ
Time: 2000-06-11 23:13:31
Comments: Thank You for getting the word out

Name: David
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: TX
Time: 2000-06-11 22:14:41
Comments: I'm sorry,but this page is absolutely bogus!Eating just fruits and veggies(or any food for that matter)can be just as dangerous as eating meat and diary products.What about pesticides they use on crops? It's like this page is trying to say that if you eat meat and drink milk you will die a horrible death and if you eat only fruits and veggies that you will live a long and healthy life and that is not true at all.Like anything in life,there are risks and concerns.All this page is trying to do is meet certain peoples' agendas by using fear tactics.

Name: Stephen Brand
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Birmingham Alabama
Time: 2000-06-11 19:01:38
Comments: I heard you a few nights ago on the Art Bell show. I was interested in reading more since I have Type 2 Diabetes and Ulcerative Colitis. I am in my late 30's and overweight by 60 pounds. I have always consumed dairy products. Seems worth investigating the dairy product relationship to many illneses.

Name: Larry Taylor
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Aurora, Colorado
Time: 2000-06-11 11:48:26
Comments: Wow, I really had no idea...thank you for enligntening me to the truth...

Name: Jim and Wilma Schilling
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sequim, WA
Time: 2000-06-11 00:37:57
Comments: Hi Robert: Just heard you for the second time on The Art Bell Show with Mike Seigal. We know from other sources that you are right about the dangers of milk and meat. You have given the impetus to try to eliminate them from our diet.

Name: Sheila
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Bend, Oregon
Time: 2000-06-11 00:32:10
Comments: Wow! Do I feel enlightened. I heard you on talk radio and had to check out your website. I haven't had a drop of milk since. I was telling a friend about it today and she has a friend whos 9 yr. old daughter started menstruating. Her doctor asked her if they drank alot of milk and sure enough they did, so he told her it was the hormones in the milk. From now on we'll be drinking soy milk in this household. Thanks for the information. I'm telling all my friends about your website!

Name: Rahcole
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada!
Time: 2000-06-10 16:53:03
Comments: This is an awesome website! It's good to see so many people going the vegan way! I've been vegan for four months now. It's really awesome to be able to eat a meal without feeling guilty about eating poor animals or abusing your own body.

Name: Kuni
Website:
Referred by: Tripod
From: Michigan
Time: 2000-06-10 11:07:56
Comments: You are mean. You'd have to think what if the world didn't have any milk whatsoever. People would lose so much calcium intake and to get calcium whatsoever they'd be stuck to eating broccoli. Then you'd have an attack on broccolii. You are just mean!!!

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany/California
Time: 2000-06-09 22:27:33
Comments: I oppose your decision to include Soksniffer's rather unbelievable scenario. It's much more likely that milk, and the milk industry, will save your life. Suppose you're driving down a country road, and a bunch of vegeterrorists have set up a roadblock to carjack you. Just as they're about to shoot, an out-of-control milk truck flattens them. Voila - you've been saved by milk! This is based on a true incident in Ohio in 1901.

Name: Amy Lee
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Georgia
Time: 2000-06-09 22:39:22
Comments: I heard you on Coast to Coast this week. Great program! What made me REALLY want to visit was the comment you made when asked why we drink milk..."its delicious" you said. You didn't deny the taste and yet you still made your point come across clearly. I know of the dangers milk produces in my system, yet I too know it tastes good, especially cheese and ice cream. Your stance was healthy and honest and I appreciate it! I've passed your site along to some friends. Its very informative and fun to navigate and the name is very easy to remember. Good job!!! And thanks.

Name: Soksniffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 2000-06-09 16:56:52
Comments: I thought of another way milk can be deadly: what if you're driving down the highway, minding your own business, when suddenly a massive milk truck t-bones your car and "snuffs out your flame"! Would this not be a tragic loss of life that would never have occured if milk weren't being delivered? I say yes! Or, even worse, suppose the impact doesn't kill you, but your car lands upside down in a ditch, and the milk tanker splits and the ditch begins filling with -- you guessed it -- deadly MILK! Your numb fingers struggle to unlatch your seatbelt as the ditch and your car are flooded with milk... quick, snatch one last breath before the "nourishing" liquid closes over your head... glub glub glub....

Great imagination!

However, for the majority of dairy consumers the road to an early demise from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, asthma, etc. has a far slower, much more expensive, and more cruel path to the end.

Over 40,000 mammals and all of them, including humans, WEAN the young from milk. There are many excellent reasons... and 59 hormones is a good start.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Jim C. Reason
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 2000-06-09 14:05:09
Comments: I listened to you on Coast to Coast this week. It was a great program. I have had allergy problems all my life. Now I may know why. Thanks

Name: Janet McGready
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Brigantine,New Jersey
Time: 2000-06-09 04:55:41
Comments: Thank you for your information and knowledge. I really appreciate it. It always seemed odd to drink another animals stuff--now I know why!!

Name: jonathan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: good 'ol st.paul,big time minneapolis
Time: 2000-06-09 00:56:28
Comments: read the a. silverstone piece. pretty good. but carrot juice doesn't taste good to me. how about "not milk (moustache)...soy milk!" or "...carrot juice!!" if you wish. plus i would like to see more information getting out on how milk actually leaches out nutrients and calcium. show proof on how it weakens bones. i've noticed how women who drink alot of milk still have more problems with, is it, osteoperosis? i'm not sure of spelling. leading people back to where to find legitimate info is the only way to help. people need to see it for them selves in easy to find places. just a few thoughts...thanks- jonathan(the taomutt)

Name: connie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: sandiego, CA
Time: 2000-06-08 20:57:20
Comments: Durrrrrrhhhhh,milk! No other country drinks that horrible stuff but Americans! Propaganda from a government that has too much money and not enough brains to do the right things with it! Heard you on coasttocoastam the other night and I find it hard to believe people still drink that flemmy dangerous cows fluid!!!!!!! You would think they would find something else to do with cows.I'll visit you again ; keep in touch.

Name: ronald sullivan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: chgo area
Time: 2000-06-08 19:04:30
Comments: right on this is the way to go

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: bay ridge, NY
Time: 2000-06-08 19:00:53
Comments: hello. been a little while since i posted.. wondering what is worse for you, lactose or caesin. because the brilliant people that bring you some of the 'non dairy' foods a lot of times contain the milk protein. does this effect you just the same as consuming a true dairy product? also, organicly grown dary vs comercial dairy: if u let comercial dairy sit a while, what in dairy multiplies over time? can you write, or do you know of a childrens book that can explain why people should not drink milk from a cow?

Name: Soksniffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 2000-06-08 18:01:43
Comments: Another case against milk: in the Limp Bizkit video for "Rearranged," the whole band was executed in a drowning chamber that filled with deadly MILK! They could have picked water or cream soda or even motor oil (although I only knew one guy who drank that), but they chose milk. That should tell you something right there....

Name: Glenn
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: British Columbia, CANADA
Time: 2000-06-08 15:39:28
Comments: I treat that which occurs in nature with awe and respect I treat that, which is created by man with suspicion. Glenn

Name: Sander
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: The Netherlands
Time: 2000-06-08 11:39:29
Comments:
Hey, Erich Heino, stop talking nonsense please. "The most successful society in human history (us) consumes vast amounts of dairy products.", yeah, right. The earth is dying, I wouldn't call that 'successfull'. We're like a virus. We are killing our habitat.

"Vegetable eaters never accomplished anything significant", yeah right again. I can give you an enormous list, but I'll name a few famous vegetarians. Einstein, Da Vinci, Ghandi, Plato, Pythagoras, Cohen & me. Never accomplished anything significant, duh!

Name: RLPERRY
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Iowa
Time: 2000-06-08 10:51:01
Comments: Heard you on Coast-to-Coast and got quite an education! When will the evil practice of this industry stop? Thankyou for linking the BGH and IGH1 to cancer and being brave enough to open another can of worms. The "added hormones" nightmare will continue to unfold and it is time we are aware of its far-reaching and global impact. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! Bob

Name: Amie_B
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Salt Lake City
Time: 2000-06-08 09:54:12
Comments: I think it is wonderful to see so many people denouncing a very unethical practice that has become so commonly ingrained in our current culture. I applaud all that have changed their diets and lifestyles for the betterment of themselves and of animals.

Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Down Under
Time: 2000-06-08 08:34:47
Comments: Did someone mention "Eat Right For Your (Blood) Type" by Peter D'Adamo? Oh dear..... someone needs redirection.

Name: Rachael Lopez
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Melbourne, Australia
Time: 2000-06-08 07:55:48
Comments: Hello there! This web site is fantasic. Finally people can see the truth. But first they have to believe it. Im a vegan, i promote the lifestyle. Your site has ALL the facts. Though a fantastic thing you should do is make a through page about exactly what you can and cant eat, there are a lot of misinformed Vegans out there! Best wishes.

Name: ron roy
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: mansfield pa
Time: 2000-06-08 02:27:42
Comments: THANKS,WE NEED MORE OF THIS INFO.

Name: Teresa Aguiar
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: San Francisco
Time: 2000-06-08 01:28:25
Comments: For years I would feel sick after eating dairy. I thought it was lactose intorerence but I would still feel sick even when taking lactase enzyme. The following day after consuming dairy I had bizzare personality changes. I would mostly feel cranky and irritable and snapping at everyone and then of course there were the physical smyptoms, inflamation of the moucosa, sinusitus, irritable bowel and fluid retention. When I explained my symptoms to doctors they suggested I was suffering from stress. I now suffer from irratable bowel and fybromyalgia and I don't dare drink any dairy for if I do I can't get out of bed. What is going on?

Name: Bob Tyree
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Salt Lake City, Ut
Time: 2000-06-07 23:29:44
Comments: I also caught you on Coast to Coast last night. Again Monsantos UGLY name comes up! They make herbicides that they won't even reveal the complete formula for (Round-Up)They Genetically alter our food supply to incorporate a perfectly good "organic " pesticide into food crops which will eventually render this safe remedy useless ( the pests will develop resistance due to it's overuse). Then they develop the Terminator seed technology in which you plant their seed and grow a crop but the resulting crop would yield sterile seed, meaning farmers buy their seed or have none.Now we talk about the dairy industry and there they are again. WAKE UP AMERICA. Europe has already rejected these practices yet over HALF of the food we eat is already genetically altered!! It must stop

Name: Christopher Santa
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Defiance, OH- Saranac Lake, NY
Time: 2000-06-07 22:09:48
Comments: Food for thought. Answers may bring action.

Name: Thomas F. Mullins Jr.
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: North Carolina
Time: 2000-06-07 21:38:35
Comments: I heard you on Coast to Coast AM last night. Great show. I'll be doing a lot of looking into this subject. In the mean time, I'm not drinking MILK!!!

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany, or California, whatever
Time: 2000-06-07 19:45:27
Comments: I was joking last week when I suggested that the notmilkman go on Art Bell's old show. But there he was last night (June 6), and I couldn't get through. Does Robert Cohen not consider it ironic to be lecturing on the dangers of BGH between commercials for human growth hormone supplements? Also, I just read the Squirts column. This caught my attention - "Cancer fears occupy the thoughts of most American woman over the age of 30, and my wife, Lisa is no exception. Every twinge or lump becomes cause for concern, and the dairy link to breast cancer is supported by hundreds of scientific studies." This sounds reminicent of the anti-nuclear protestors of the early 80s who lived in constant fear of nuclear war, and passed this paranoid fantasy on to their children, thus reinforcing their beliefs. The most successful society in human history (us) consumes vast amounts of dairy products. Doesn't that tell you something? Vegetable eaters never accomplished anything significant (an overstatement, but you get my point).

Name: John Bradley
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Antwerp Ohio
Time: 2000-06-07 19:16:49
Comments: I'm so verry glad I found your site. I've been looking for some healthy altunitives for a healther menue. The friend I got your page from was Coast to Coast. I have realised the doun falls of milk for some time. Thanks JMB

Name: Louis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-06-07 18:59:40
Comments: The coast-to-coast radio program was astounding! I have tried lactose-free before, but your message instilled just the kick I needed to obstain forever. Thank you!

Name: Eve
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: CA
Time: 2000-06-07 17:31:56
Comments: Keep up the great work ! It is to bad that a responsible person like yourself can not sit on the FDA instead of all these bought and paid for losers. That also goes for the Supreme court appointees. These men are there for life, controlling the lives of every US citizen making decisions that overtly destroy all of us. Soon the herd of sheep will not follow the pied piper (Gov.and media moguls)any longer. These good old boy societies need to be dismantled for the sake of mankind. Before any info is handed out to the unasumming public it is disected and purged of any distasteful or wronge doing of it's owners. Lies, coverups and constant harazment of whisle blowers makes these traders of the U.S. stand out like spots on a Lepard. How else could they lead you down the wrong path. All this info is carefully fed to unsuspecting consumers. Knowledge is power and without it, they continue to kill off thousands of us at a time. This milk issue is only one of a vastly large number of issues that plague this country and others. But you won't understand it unless you start reading the real history that's kept out of the educational system and is very hard to find in book stores. Barnes and Noble is now owned by the largest German Co./ now they controll what Americans will be able to purchase on their book shelfs. I have first hand knowlege. After WWII the U.S. brought over and paid for all those Nazi scientist to set up shop in our labs. Well they weren't fixing chicken soup! I suggest if your interested in finding out about what has been really going on in our county and who's been controlling it go read The Truth Shall Set You Free/David Icke. Try Borders Books, they are still owned by Americans and still have the books on their shelfs. Also try reading Montauk & Montauk Revisted/ Preston Nicohls and Peter Moon. Good luck people a new day is coming, thank God !

Name: R.Omer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Las Vegas Nv.
Time: 2000-06-07 17:14:08
Comments: Hey, Mr.Cohen,heard you on "Coast to Coast" radio show and lost some sleep,but gained alot of knowledge.I had heard that dairy products were not especially good for people and have been trying to cut-back.I,m going,"cold turkey"for a couple of weeks, or maybe forever if it seems to help.I live in a gambling city,but I won,t gamble with my health(or money).I,ve E-mailed your web site to my friends. THANKS

Name: NS
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Phx, Arizona
Time: 2000-06-07 16:09:33
Comments: My husband heard you on the radio talk show, Mike Seagat, boy from what he told me and from what I've seen on this website A LOT of things make sense now. I'm going to try my best to change my diet for me and my family!!! For some time now, my husband and I told each other that the food we eat is what is keeping sick and unhealthy. We been having a hard time keeping in shape and breathing right. We both have asthma from day one but it seemed to be getting worse and in fact it is. Hopefully I can change that. Thank you for all this information!!

Name: demar merrill
Website:
Referred by: AngelFire
From: preston, idaho
Time: 2000-06-07 16:03:45
Comments: heard you on the old art bell site on am radio at 3 oclock this morning and stayed awake listening for 2 hrs. i have type 2 diabetis, so was interested in what i heard. i copied the e-mail address and here i am. i have downloaded a lot of your information and it makes sense to me. i am also on a slim fast diet to lose some weight and found out that i wont be using that product any longer. i have lost 14 lbs and my glucose level is today at 79. i think i have done well, as it was 158 when we picked it up. i think the diet will help more if i get of the animal products so thats where i will be from now on.. thank you

Name: Lynn Bedri
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Los Angeles area
Time: 2000-06-07 15:10:12
Comments: Thanks for giving the facts!

Name: TRACY
Website:
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From: TEXAS
Time: 2000-06-07 15:07:15
Comments: I heard you on the radio last night and thought I would check the site out. The section on Diabetes was extremely interesting that I plan to explore more. I am the only child , out of 3 brothers in my family who did not get Type 1 diabetes. It is a serious illness that I always thought was basically genetic in nature. My wife and I put off having children for 10 + years out of fear that they may get this disease because both of my brothers have died from complications arising from diabetes. I remember being somewhat shocked when a pediatrician tolds us of a link between dairy products and diabetes. Keep up the good work , your message is getting out and please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

Name: enki
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle
Time: 2000-06-07 14:00:02
Comments: thanks for the great info.. I had no clue.. guess I'm done with dairy for good now.. alot of things suddenly make sense to me..

Name: D. Adams
Website:
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From: Florida,USA
Time: 2000-06-07 14:06:26
Comments: Thank you for being on Coast to Coast am1290 talk show. I learned a great deal,of information.

Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Missouri
Time: 2000-06-07 13:22:05
Comments: Yes, Mr. Webmaster, I'm the dairy farmer. Which is why I drink milk. I have yet to see blood, pus or feces go into the tank, and know that many of the 59 hormones are also included in many other foods - including fruits and vegetables. Our bodies need most of these hormones. There are a lot of important facts conveniently left off of this website. Here's just one - taken out of our local newspaper, The St. Joseph News-Press, May 17 issue. An article titled "Here's The Beef" (May is national Beef Month) states: "The ADA (American Dietetic Association) includes red meat, along with dairy products, in it's listing of whole foods that include the fatty acid CLA 'which may alter cancer carcinogenesis.' CLA, a natural byproduct of animal metabolism, is found in seafood and other types of meat, but it is concentrated in the highest quantities in dairy products and red meat. It's greatest benefit appears to be in inhibiting melanoma, colorectal, lung, ovarian and, especially breast cancers." I wish that I could reprint the whole article - it was very informative. A few years ago I remember reading somewhere about the 'allowable amount' of mouse hair and feces that is in peanut butter. One day I opened a can of spinach and there was a grasshopper, processed, cooked and ready to eat - I almost did! My ex-in-laws are truck gardeners - we soaked the greens, broccoli, cabbage and other vegetables in salt water to get most of the aphids and worms - but a lot get eaten. There are allergens all over the world, and mites in our eyelashes. If I was allergic to milk and dairy products I would stay away from them. But I'm not. When my mother was 27 the doctor's found cervical cancer. She had a partial hysterectomy (kept the hormone-laden ovaries), and is now 64 years old. I imagine emphasyma or lung cancer will do her in long before any other kind of cancer - due to her diet of coffee, cigarettes, and for a few years there - lots and lots of beer. She also has osteoporosis. In short - my mother does not take care of herself at all, nor does she care to. I also had ovarian cancer at 28, same operation. I'm 44 now, no signs. As for the cholesterol, I had blood work done several years ago - I don't remember the numbers, but the doctor kept telling me that he wished he had my numbers - really low "bad" stuff, and high "good". Next time I'm in town I'll get the numbers. Fats - I need, my work is extremely physically demanding, and when I play - I play really, really hard. Toxins - nothing in the world is truly organic nowadays - there are traces of acid rain everywhere - that was in one of my organic food books, hopefully I can find it. Mentioning 53 slices of bacon a day does not scare me - my body processes it just fine. My body does - maybe not yours, but I can handle it. And let me tell you about a youth on the right track. I grew up in town - not a dairy. My venture into the dairy world did not begin until I was 25 or so. My children did grow up on my small farm. We bought one little Jersey because we drank so much milk, had a farm, and love animals. So my son and daughter did drink lots of fresh, raw milk, and still do. My youngest daughter just graduated from high school - third in her class of 59. (She was neck and neck for first until she fell in love and developed 'senioritis' during third semester). She was president of her school's National Honor Society, and received a 33 on her ACT test. Also cheerleader, basketball, and Homecoming queen. When my son was in high school he was also president of the National Honor Society, and received a 29 on his ACT test (probably lower than his sisters because we didn't get the cow until he was 6, and my daughter has had it since she was weaned from my breast, at six months). My son is 6'1", probably weighs 175, is still in college, works part-time as an EMT, full time at a very large city fire department - is married with two daughters. His wife will be playing basketball for the college she attends - after two babies. My son has to mix half & half with whole milk to create the fat level and taste he desires. My daughter is 5'7", 115 pounds - flawless complection - perfect, beautiful. I'm 5'6", 115 pounds, a few small lines and gray hairs (no zits) - and very fit. These are true facts and numbers. I'm not going to praise milk alone for all these blessings. Genetics, good fortune, hard work, and just plain happiness can split the credit. I'm sorry that everybody's body does not respond the same or as well - but to blame it all on one particular food is senseless to me - and call milk a poison - that's just ridiculous. There are viruses, bacteria, fungi, feces, etc, on almost everything we put in our mouth - and if anything sterile goes in, ten to one it took chlorine or some other chemical or a heating process to get it that way. Our bodies can filter, clean and detoxify a whole lot of things - and there are may right and wrong tracks to follow in life - consuming dairy is not a wrong way. The scare tactics used on this website could be damaging, if they frighten somebody into bad nutrition practices unnecessarily. Did you know that there is a site on the internet hosted by a man who claims to have invented a time-travel machine? He says he's been back and forth in time a lot - even sells the schematics for his vehicle. This man truly believes what he says - they are facts to him. You can show him "facts" and figures until you are blue in the face, and he only sees his own, based on his own personal experiences. Sorry this is so long. I've got to get out and get some chores finished.

Name: mik
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: seattle wa
Time: 2000-06-07 11:50:07
Comments: heard on Mike Seaget radio show--- wow keep going after those big agi-biz guys!!!! your stepping on big toes!

Name: Marne Rogers
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Avon, NY
Time: 2000-06-07 09:54:07
Comments: This is among the most important sites on the Internet! I have, as a result of exposure to the truth, given up dairy products entirely and my husband is on his way to doing the same. This is no small accomplishment for a guy who loves cheese as much as he does. Can't thank you enough for opening my eyes and mind. Marne Rogers

Name: John
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-06-07 10:06:03
Comments: Sure open my eyes ! Off of milk from now on and will try to wean myself off of beef. Thank you and coast to coast very much!! Keep up the good work and the fight.

Name: Robb Saunders
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Winston-Salem, NC
Time: 2000-06-07 09:55:38
Comments: I recieved the web page address from a New Ways distributor from Australia. The site is: www.hungerstrike.com/diary05.html#197 I could not get this address to come up at work, where I am now but I did at home and was GROSSED out! Thanks for scaring the crap out of me! robb Access all previous daily comments via: http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html

All "hungerstrike" diary entries are now a part of the "squirts of NOTMILK wisdom. The link to this is:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html

The link to that specific document is:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirt25.html#197 with the difference in filename being a change from "diary05" to "squirt25".

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: STEPHEN ANDERSON
Website:
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From: TULSA
Time: 2000-06-07 06:25:23
Comments: I heard of you on Coast to Coast A.M. The show was very shocking. I'm a milk and dairy user, why because it does a body good. }: Not anymore. Thank you very much for your efforts. You get my vote for the Humanitarian Award.

Name: Daniel
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Bend Oregon
Time: 2000-06-07 04:56:42
Comments: Robert was a guest on "Coast to Coast", that's how I found this website.

Name: Doug Williams
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Citrus Heights, CA
Time: 2000-06-07 04:30:19
Comments: Mr. Cohen I heard you on coast to coast and enjoyed that program more than any other I've ever heard,thank you. I have been a milk drinker all my life and you scared the hell out of me. I want to quit dairy products but, I really do crave ice cold milk. But, I will try. Thank You !!! Do you trust congress to get to the bottom of this? If not what can we do? Thanks Doug Williams 7800 Copper Oak Ct. Citrus Heights, CA 95610

Name: Moie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sunny Hot Florida
Time: 2000-06-07 04:23:12
Comments: I am sooo very happy to hear that I have been going in the right direction by giving up milk and milk products. Of course, this isn't the easiest task. Thanks for all the helpful information and encouragement!! *moie*

Name: Nathaniel J. Smith
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minneapolis, MN
Time: 2000-06-07 03:58:59
Comments: I gave up milk about August of 1999, and since then I have not had a problem with my sinus' nor have I have any form of on going sinus infections. I have also managed to loose some weight.

Name: Fermin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Coast-To-Coast Website
Time: 2000-06-07 00:05:22
Comments: Nice work but you miss a major point. This, like many other approaches to diet, does not account for: 1. Body Type 2. How the food is prepared and consumed 3. Temperature 4. Time of day 5. Energy state of body There are cultures around the world that consume two to five times more dairy products than the average American with no ill effect on health or longevity. Why? Because, there is more to it than one simple food or ingredient. One good approach explaining the differences listed above is described in the book "Eat Right For Your (Blood)Type" by Peter. D'Adamo, N.D. A better and more comprehensive explanation is described in Deepak Chopra, M.D.'s book: "Perfect Health." I gave up dairy products for five years. After reading Chopra's work on Aryudedic medicine it all made sense to me. I started consuming them again in a manner appropriate for my body type. AND I FEEL MUCH BETTER. Organic milk, in small quantiites, WARMED or BOILED. NOTHING COLD. We Americans love to jump in on fads without looking for simple answers all around us. The explanation about how milk affects different human bodies was written long ago in Aryvedic texts. A moderate approach may dillute your publicity in the short term but will gain respect and help a great many persons in the long run. Better this effort than none.

Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Missouri
Time: 2000-06-06 21:30:57
Comments: Here we have a 23 year-old with 'great wisdom' who uses such creative adjectives as 'creepy', 'mental', 'glowy', and that fascinating verb 'pooping' ... please! At this very minute my clueless cat is lapping his fresh cow's milk, sitting beside him is a bowl of cat food and it's made of - eewwhhuu... fish - Studley's dining on the flesh and fluid of totally un-feline species! Oh my gawd ... my kitty-kitty probably won't see his sweet 16th birthday this July - I've been so cruel - so out-there.In my opinion Alicia Silverstone is the perfect role-model for this Notmilk mission - really makes me want to ditch dairy - NOT!!!

Ummm. You are the dairy farmer, right? I submit that nothing would sway your mind from being pro-dairy... right?

Not facts, not logic, not even a youth on the right track.

Enjoy your 59 hormones, scores of allergens, toxins, cholesterol, fats, blood, feces, virusus, bacteria, pus and more... my cancer grows MUCH slower without it... and it is NOT a "taste to die for".

You can keep my "share"... and that of the rest of my family.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Linda C. Hayes, O.D., Ph.D.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Houston, TX
Time: 2000-06-06 17:53:23
Comments: I heard about you from Coast To Coast Am. When taken off the bottle at age 1 year, I refused milk. The taste of it always made me sick. At school we always had a milk and cookie break, I had to use quite an imagination to find ways of disposing of the milk. Planter boxes or offering it to a neighbor for a cookie seemed to work well. So I am glad to see that after 50 years of refusing milk, that a web site has finally appeared honoring my choice. Plus as a lover of animals and the environment it is not nice to turn the cows into industrial products, Keep up the good work. LINDA

Name: Rhonda
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Grand Rapids, Michigan
Time: 2000-06-06 11:08:24
Comments: Hi. This site helped me out a lot when I was doing a research report for one of my classes. It helped a ton. THANKS!!!

Name: spencer blackman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-06-06 02:10:27
Comments: I wanted to add just a few points. 1. Avoiding dairy can be very difficult or very easy. Since the typical American diet is practically a milk menu, one cannot enjoy a milk-free diet without unplugging from this mass belief system. For the dedicated, I think a fast is a good way to help reduce one's attachment to milk. Once you realize that you don't need to eat every day, and in fact not eating for a few days feels so wonderful, it is easier to accept that you don't need milk in your diet. 2. Robert seems to be a very intelligent and dedicated man. To that extent, this site and what it has to say deserves an open-minded review. But never take anyone's words as gospel, even Robert's. Use your mind to evaluate this issue rationally. For example, doesn't the simple fact that no other animal that us consumes milk after infancy, let alone the milk of another species support the basic logic that cow's milk is not for human consumption? Only when you are totally out of touch with the workings of nature does this truth escape you. 3. Soy milk and Peanutbutter Bumpers make the best cereal EVER! Best of luck everyone!

Name: spencer blackman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-06-06 01:38:42
Comments: Keep it up!

Name: Sarah Tarr
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Utah
Time: 2000-06-05 22:45:28
Comments: HEY MAN! I LOVE YOU GUYS SOOOOOO SOOO MUCH. VEGANS ARE THE COOLEST AND MOST "BESTES" PEOPLE IN THE WORLD!!!!! -SARAH:) :) :) :) :) :) OH YEAH !!!!I LOVE SILVERCHAIR TOO!!!

Name: Kim Boykin
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Ripley, MD (just south of Washington D.C.)
Time: 2000-06-05 21:18:00
Comments: I only wish to express my gratitude, although with the overwhelming number of people who do the same everyday, I don't suppose that it means much. I have always detested milk and have never understood why anyone in their right mind would want to consume it. Recently, I have broken myself of my last dairy love, cheese. A decision I will never regret. I am 15 years old. Most of my friends think that I am "full of bullsh*t." However, I wish to write an article for my school newspaper about the truth about dairy. I have found this site to be awesomely full of information and absolutely more helpful to me, both for my article and personally, than any other. Thank you again.

Name: Jamie Carter
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: TN
Time: 2000-06-03 23:20:42
Comments: I felt like this for a long time and have been trying to convince my family. Hopefully with this overwhelming compilation of evidence they will listen.

Name: Traci
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-06-02 12:01:20
Comments: I grew up eating dairy products and drinking milk several times a day. As I got into my teens I started feeling sick to my stomach all the time, and it went on for a few years that way. I would be so sick that it hurt to move, I missed out on a lot of teenage things because I was at home in bed. Doctors said that everything was normal, my diet was perfectly acceptable and no one knew why I would get so sick. Then one day I came across an article about milk that started to make me think about my diet. So I cut all dairy products out of my life, and what a pain in the butt that was! I had no idea that just about everything I ate had some sort of dairy product in it. Well, just a few weeks after the change, I wasn't sick anymore. My stomach doesn't cramp up as soon as I start to eat and I've lost some wieght. Thats all it took, no more dairy, and I'm healthy again. I wish the doctors could have seen that earlier. I am not allergic to dairy products, my body just can't tolerate them. Being milk-free is the best thing I ever could have done for myself! Milk DOES NOT do a body good. I do miss dairy products, and I've tried the soy and other non-dairy products, but I just couldn't stand to eat/drink them. It just doesn't taste right. My only question now is, what happens when I get pregnant? Do you know how much milk they tell you to drink when you get pregnant? And its not just you drinking it anymore, you're passing it to a child too. I just wish more Doctors knew and understood how bad milk really is. I think we'd all be a lot healthier and happier without Dairy products.

Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-06-02 08:51:17
Comments: Some people seem to be unable to grasp the figures (ie; the 53 slices of Bacon figures). Here down under we have "Lactose Free" milk, which contains LACTOSE. That's the Dairy Industry for you..... feeding us both CowMilk and BullSh!t. Then there's the "Skim Milk"..... ingredients listed as "Milk, Whole Milk, Skim Milk". Yeah, good one. There's no greater sucker than a milk drinker.

Name: Marcia
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 2000-06-01 17:46:29
Comments: Robert.... First, I want to say that I enjoy your page very much, and I believe you are doing a public service by providing this research to people who wish to learn. It is unfortunate that there are people who are so threatened by the free expression of ideas and information that they feel they must attack your right to exist and present the information as you see it. As you have stated, each person is free to make their own choices, you are just presenting the information. I appreciate you. Also, what happened to the Daily Diary ? I miss reading it. Thank you. Marcia.

Robert ended his hungerstrike on Monay, the 29th of May... on day 205. All diary entries are now a part of the "Squirts" of NOTMILK wisdom at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html and he is now writing more of the daily tidbits.

His original columns are posted at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html

Regards...

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Erich Heino, yet again, and one last time
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: let's just say Germany
Time: 2000-05-31 14:56:28
Comments: Here's a list of the makeup of milk, taken from some website somewhere: 87.3% water (range of 85.5% - 88.7%) 3.9 % milkfat (range of 2.4% - 5.5%) 8.8% solids-not-fat (range of 7.9 - 10.0%): protein 3.25% (3/4 casein) lactose 4.6% minerals 0.65% - Ca, P, citrate, Mg, K, Na, Zn, Cl, Fe, Cu, sulfate, bicarbonate, many others acids 0.18% - citrate, formate, acetate, lactate, oxalate enzymes - peroxidase, catalase, phosphatase, lipase gases - oxygen, nitrogen vitamins - A, C, D, thiamine, riboflavin, others Looks pretty acceptable to me. Casein's just a protein with many uses, including adhesive. Now, let me indulge in NotMilkMan-style scare tactics. Water!!! Water is used for terrible things! Did you know that water is used to FLUSH TOILETS!!!! Do you want to drink toilet-flushing fluid!?!?!?!??? DON'T DRINK WATER!!! Did you know that the Fluid Academy of Teheran has recommended against drinking water?!??? Water is used as a solvent for terrible things like casein! Why would you drink this evil fluid.

Name: Abi Herron
Website:
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From: south england
Time: 2000-05-31 14:46:56
Comments: i think your page is great! i was vegetarian for about 19 years and felt great but since going vegan the change has been amazing. well i didnt do it for me i did it for the animals but i have lost weight, less PMS and my nails have grown really long and strong as i eat lots of calcium rich veggies. even if exculeding dairy/milk from my diet was harmful for me i would as i love animals but its so good not to drink it and i am glad others have seen the light....besides carob is nicer than chocolate anyday. and at easter i got non dairy easter eggs so what more could i ask for!!! if anyone wants some good recipies then email me keep up the great work, Miss Herron

Name: Avrum Bree
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: The East
Time: 2000-05-31 08:32:43
Comments: Churchill said, "A fanatic is someone who won't stop talking, and won't change the subject." It's amusing how people will find the most obscure topics to become fanatical about.

I think that the logic expressed below totally disarms your arguments. Take the cholesterol of 53 slices of bacon, divide it into the millions of glasses of milk consumed daily, and you've got a negligible amount of cholesterol. You've also totally ignored the undesputable scientific fact that milk is healthy for you.

Your inability to properly understand the what is said suggests the need for MORE, not less repetition.

You consider the health of 267 million Americans to be an "obscure" topic? Guess what, you are in the same leaking boat as those who promote milk, dairy, MSG, aspartame, and a number of other unhealthy substances.

Perhaps a reading problem, on unaccountable one? Nobody said that a million glasses of milk had the cholesterol of 53 slices of bacon. THREE GLASSES OF WHOLE MILK A DAY have that cholesterol equivalent of 53 slices of bacon... which adds up to the equivalent of over 19,000 slices of bacon a year. Statistics show the average American consumes MORE than three glasses of milk a day (or the equivalent in dairy). GOT DOC? Ask him if your body needs that cholesterol from dairy. If he says yes... then ask if it is OK to switch from milk to 53 slices of bacon each day and watch his reaction.

From "The East"? East of what? By the way... you may think you are "invisible" by providing a perhaps fake name, and no other information. Suffice it to say that you are using @home, and you are from the Redwood City, CA area.

You've also totally ignored the undesputable scientific fact that milk is healthy for you.

Really? What pro-dairy resource or dairy funded study would you like to quote?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Calla
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Toronto, Canada
Time: 2000-05-30 21:39:48
Comments: I have been a vegetarian for 20 years (i'm 35) but have just given up milk and eggs about 8 weeks ago. What a difference!!! I feel wonderful! After reading the material on your site, it's no wonder. I knew milk was not great, but I had no idea just how bad it really is. Unfortunately my 6 year old son LOVES milk and hates soy milk no matter how I try to disguise it. I will try your rice/coconut milk recipe on him this weekend. In any event, I just wanted to say thanks for the site. I have emailed links to friends with Crohn's and diabetes and hope they will read it and not think "oh man another vegan email from Calla the animal loving weirdo". :) Keep up the good work!!!!

You might remind them that HUMANS are animals, too! :-)

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Winnipeg
Time: 2000-05-30 09:37:31
Comments: You say that milk contains the fat of 53 slices of bacon. Since roughly 23 million slices of bacon are consumed in the US daily, this is a negligible number. I'll withhold judgement until you get your NOTBACON site up and running.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mike,

There are 270 million Americans. If your number is true, then the average American eats about one slice of bacon every 11.74 days. On the other hand, in the time it takes for the average American to eat just one slice of bacon, that same individual ingests (from milk and dairy products) the same cholesterol contained in 622 slices of bacon!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



No... "we" did NOT say that "milk" contains the fat of 53 slices of bacon.

What we "say" only reports the facts. We report that THREE GLASSES OF WHOLE MILK A DAY, the "recommended" daily amount, contains the CHOLESTEROL equivalent of 53 slices of bacon. That amounts to the cholesterol equivalent of 19,345 slices of bacon a year that add up to the equivalent of 1 million slices by the early fifties. IF you, or anyone, consumes the American AVERAGE daily amount of dairy (well over three glasses of milk a day) ... well... you take it from there, Mike.

What you do with the information we present... which is backed by a wide variety of credible resources, is YOUR problem. Withhold "judgement" as you will ... AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-05-29 10:46:11
Comments: I know I'm stooping to a personal attack, but I don't care...... If you visit Erich Heino's Web Page, at http://www.geocities.com/eheino99/ you may notice something very different to his NotMilk Guestbook posts....... the English/Spelling, perhaps? What's going on? Anyway, about 8 years ago I used to travel on the morning and evening Train to and from College (about 45 minutes journey). The whole time I would be doubled up in pain, and there were many days I wanted to kill myself to end the pain (the few times I was 100% intent on committing suicide I was so incapacitated I couldn't do it). Eventually, I gave up Dairy products (for ethical/moral reasons) and those pains disappeared..... all because I dropped Dairy products. Milk sure as hell wasn't doing my body any good.

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany, apparently
Time: 2000-05-28 04:15:01
Comments: OK, it's Heino yet again. I notice that at least one other person in this world, Penny, has a clue. Hurray! Anyway, I just noticed something. While listening to the Coast to Coast show (Art Bell's thing), I heard single-issue obsessives with large quasi-scientific vocabularies spouting data on various 'studies' which proved their points (usually with regards to alien visitation or inter-breeding with humans). Substitute 'anti-milk' for 'alien DNA', and I think you'd fit right in. Call them up, they'll probably slot you in between the hollow-earthers, and the bigfoot-is-a-time-traveller groups. Also, as for your claim that 'milk does NOT do the body any good', try this. Lock yourself in a room with no food, and lock one of your acolytes in another room with only unlimited milk. Who will survive longer? The only answer is: him, not you. Therefore, milk does do the body some good. Note: if you claim that you will survive on zero calories longer than someone on a just-milk diet, I suspect that even Art Bell would hesitate to interview you. He has his standards.

It is obvious you have not read anything on the WEB sites. To make it easier for you and your friend Penny your beverage of choice... MILK, has:

  • 59 hormones -- Worst? Perhaps the powerful IGF-1 growth hormone (think fast growing cancers)
  • Scores of allergens -- Worst? Probably casein (80% of the protein) Think glue! (powerful histamine or mucus maker)
  • blood -- Even under the best of conditions
  • feces -- Even under the best of conditions
  • fat -- Of the calories in whole milk 49% come from fat (35% for 2% milk)
  • cholesterol -- 3 glasses a day = the equivalent of 53 slices of bacon
  • herbicides -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
  • pesticides -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
  • dioxins -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
  • viruses -- (most likely many kinds of them)
  • up to 20,000,000 live bacteria per liter (FDA max limit)
  • up to 750,000,000 somatic (PUS) cells per liter (FDA max limit)
  • up to 52 different antibiotics (they only test for a few)
  • Perhaps some TB (bovine mycobacterium paratuberculosis, the bacterium linked to Johne's disease in cows and Crohn's disease in humans)
  • Perhaps some Prions (a crystal that acts like a virus - think mad cow disease, with a 5-30 years "incubation" for something that cannot be destroyed by 900 degree Celsius heat)

Sixty Percent of America's dairy cows have leukemia virus.

87% of milk is WATER (mother natures truly perfect drink).

The milk of each of the over 40,000 mammals on earth is formulated specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and immunoglobulins. In cow's milk the protein lactalbumin is considered a key factor in diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving infant children cows milk). Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used their MUST be an equal quantity of magnesium (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones). Milk has little magnesium.

80% of the protein in milk is casein. Milk can be considered as a "liquid meat", which, when added to all the OTHER protein in an average diet, may actually leach calcium from the bones. Countries with the highest intake of milk and dairy have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Milk moustaches = good bones are a milk industry 100% lie.

Mother-natures perfect milk-delivery system is directly from teet to mouth. When anything is exposed to air the oxygen in it CHANGES things. Metals oxidize (rust). Freshly sliced apples or pears turn brown. Paper does a slow burn. Milk not consumed via mother natures intended delivery system is automatically different.

There is no need in human nutrition for cow's milk. Dr. Spock (the famous baby doctor whose books have been outsold only by the bible) said it several years ago. Nor is the consumption of milk medically sound or desirable. Considering that milk and dairy plays a significant role in obesity, heart disease, cancer, asthma, diabetes, eczema, irritable bowel syndrome, leukemia, poor digestion, lactose intolerance (according to WHO 90% of world blacks are lactose intolerant), gas, bloating, behavioral problems, osteoporosis, and more.

Considering that cow's milk is a fluid from diseased animals that impacts heavily on human health ... it should NOT be considered a "taste to die for".

Guess what... neither YOU nor your friend Penny have even a CLUE to the truth. As to your silly remark about two people in different rooms... the milk and dairy industry SPRANG from the old European tradition of collecting UNCONSUMED milk (by the calf, of course) from the old 1-4 quart a day cow (now up to 55 quarts a day) and quickly making it into either butter, or hard cheese, as a HIGH FAT EMERGENCY FOOD SUPPLY FOR HARD TIMES! Most of the first wave of Pilgrims died the first winter... because they were forced to sell MOST of their butter to buy passage for the trip to American.

Of course the fellow consuming milk will survive... because it is EIGHTY SEVEN PERCENT WATER... mother natures truly perfect drink. How much do you pay for a gallon of tap water? How much do you pay for a gallon of milk? That 13 percent of substance that is 50% of fat in calories in saturated fats, provides the equivalent cholesterol of 53 slices of bacon (per three glasses of milk), and all those other "goodies"... is VERY EXPENSIVE POLLUTION!

I hope that the IGF-1 cancer fuel does not do YOU in before YOUR time... like it has me.

Bon appetite, Erich Heino

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-05-27 10:03:02
Comments: Erich Heino wrote "Also, you ever notice that the most pill-popping, vitamin-gulping, supplement-addicted people around are the vegetarians?" Well, let's see...... first, as already asked, are there any studies/figures that show this? Secondly, out of myself and my non-vegan family and friends, I am the one who is LEAST likely to take pills/supplements/drugs of any sort. But then Erich did say 'vegetarians', not 'vegans'....... And perhaps he ignores the fact that milk is so drug-laden??

Name: Penny
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Jersey
Time: 2000-05-26 21:22:54
Comments: I think that this page is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Your scientific stuides prove nothing; they are completely tailored to prove your point, and even at that the results are questionable. I fail to see how a rat becoming hyper and then calming down after drinking milk shows a connection between drinking milk and ADD. And if this "scientist" wins the Noble Peace Prize, I will be writing a very strongly worded letter to the committe who selects the winners. The only thing that your page has convinced me of it that you can't believe anything that is on the internet, because any random crackpot can put lies everywhere.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Penny,

The studies cited on my website are not "my" studies. Thousands of unbiased studies published in respected scientific peer-reviewed journals converge upon one conclusion: Milk does NOT do the body any good.

I agree with you about rat studies. Animal studies are only good for one thing. They provide research funds for scientists to torture animals, and perpetrate a system that ultimately betrays humans. We cannot extrapolate rat research to human physiology, and each animal study is a non-reliable fraud.

However, the ADD study was performed on humans. A morphine-type hormone in milk (casomorphin) has been associated with attention deficit disorder. When milk is removed from their diets, children with autism and attention deficit disorder often improve. This therapy is a successful alternative to ritalin treatment.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany
Time: 2000-05-25 19:46:37
Comments: Wow. When you dedicate your life to a single cause, you really go all out. Hmmm. Basketball superiority based on milk drinking or not. Bizarre. Absolutely bizarre. Also, invoking the name of Ralph Nader doesn't enhance your credibility any more than cozying up to the new-age crowd ("milk is like ... so bad for your chakras, man"). How about getting the support of the Flat Earth Society? Also, I enjoyed Scott Goldberg's logic - his friends won't agree to stop drinking milk, so maybe he's hanging around with the wrong friends. That's the kind of person who's attracted to whacky causes like your anti-milk crusade. Also, you ever notice that the most pill-popping, vitamin-gulping, supplement-addicted people around are the vegetarians? Hint: if you can't get all the nutrients you need from your daily diet (juicing 70 pounds of fresh vegetables everyday isn't normal), then start eating some meat, the way nature intended.

Dear Erich,

I was not aware that "most pill-popping, vitamin-gulping, supplement-addicted people around are the vegetarians," as you claim. Do you have a reference for that statement?

Vitaminbusiness.com website reveals:

"It's estimated that nearly 50 percent of Americans use vitamin supplements every day."

It is clear that those eating the Standard American Diet (the S.A.D. diet) need supplements! Meat eaters and Vegans have one thing in common. All humans need to consume essential amino acids, vitamins, and enzymes. Eating fresh fruits and vegetables remains the most efficient way of providing the body with its nutritional needs. Why not take the VEGPLEDGE and discover great health:

http://www.vegpledge.com

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey, Channel Islands
Time: 2000-05-24 18:01:31
Comments: Hi Robert,

I have been following your pages for quite some time now. I really admire the work you do and how persistent you are. It seems your message is finally making it big here in the UK. The Daily Mail (a very well respected and widely read newspaper) published a 6 page report (over a three day period)on the connection of cancer with the consumption of milk. A scientist called Jane Plant had cancer reoccur five times and was told she had only a few months to live. Being a scientist she couldn't accept that the rate in Japan and China was about 1 in 10,000 and in the UK 1 in 12. Also when Chineese people emigrated to the UK they too had similarly high rates as UK people do. This also seemed strange because a nuclear bomb was dropped on Hiroshima so if anything it would be expected that the rates of cancer would be higher in these areas. The report blames dairy products as the culprit and explains about IGF-1 and other hormones in milk that promote the division of cells and the growth of tumors. It's a very intersting read and she is bring a book out on 8th of June called "Your life in your hands". I think you should get in touch with her. The two of you would be expremely convincing and it would be great if you were to do radio/TV appearances together. You really should do this as her belief is the same as yours. Thanks again for the excellent info. Been dairy free for 3 years and fell great!


Name: Steve
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wilmington, NC
Time: 2000-05-24 15:25:05
Comments: Last year about 40,000 people in the US died from automobile accidents. Were they drinking milk at the time? I'll bet you a lot of them drank milk in the 24 hours preceding the accident. Be sure to post this on your website! DRINKING MILK CAUSES AUTO ACCIDENTS!! I'll also be willing to wager that drinking 6 times your body mass of milk each day will be linked to Cancer! - just ask those poor rats that are subjected to such tests... What's next? Nestle's Quik causes heart attacks???? PLEASE find something more constructive to do than tell us that something humans have used for thousands of years (more than that if you count human milk) is evil and will kill us. Give me some REAL milk mortality stats and maybe I'll listen!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Steve,

Last year 2,400,000 Americans died from heart disease.

Almost every scientific agency in America and almost every physician recognizes that saturated animal fat and cholesterol are contributing factors in the etiology of heart disease. The average American consumes 5 ounces of meat each day, and 29.2 ounces of milk and dairy products. In his/her dairy consumption, the average American will consume every day the equivalent cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon.

After 52 years, the average American will have consumed from dairy the same cholesterol contained in one-million slices of bacon. Doctors have no clue to the cause, prevention, and cure for heart disease.

Please join me and Ralph Nadar in three weeks at our Washington, DC biotechnology conference. We have a message for you. Drinking milk is "Unsafe At Any Speed!"

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Scott Goldberg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Long Island, NY
Time: 2000-05-24 12:27:59
Comments: Hey Robert, great site. I tried to get my friends to stop drinking milk, but they just wont listen. Maybe I'm hanging around the wrong friends? Anyway, I have been a vegeterian for quite some time and I haven't drank milk for a few months and I feel GREAT! Thanks to you and your book, I can get to the goal I want in weight-lifting and I can accomplish anything! P.S. Write back! GO KNICKS!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Scott,

The Knicks might have met their match in those "hicks" from Indiana. The Pacers may have the advantage because Reggie Miller and Rik Smits do not pose for milk mustache ads. On the other hand, Patrick Ewing did. Indiana outhustled and outplayed the Knicks in game one of their playoff round. The New York team looked sluggish. Casein, a milk protein will do that to you.

Please assist our team! When the series returns to New York, send free pizza's to the Indiana Pacers hotel! We can still win this thing.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 2000-05-22 19:31:06
Comments: I've seen it all now......You losers will do anything for press.

Name: Christine Hanusi
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Hamilton, NJ
Time: 2000-05-21 12:26:11
Comments: I viewed part of a segment on this topic on cable tv early Sunday morning, 5-21-00. I've been toying with trying to avoid eating meat for years but avoiding milk was never in the equation until recently. Being raised on all kinds of milk and meat products, it is difficult to virtually change everything you know about preparing and eating food. In addition, the alternatives in food stores are limiting. With most of our busy lifestyles, a change of this magnitude would require not only educating oneself on altervative foods and their preparation, but going from store to store trying to find theses alternatives. I'm not saying I won't attempt it, but it seems like alot of work. And, even if I change what occupies my household, every time I go to a restaurant, party, or picnic, I'd have to avoid most of the menu. My life would turn into "I can't have that". I will try it though. Maybe I'll feel so much better that it will be worth the trouble. I've tried to spread the word to family memebers who have children, and have met with resistance. I fear I am gaining the reputation of a overzealeous nutcase. I can understand why they feel this way. People are overwhelmed with conflicting information regarding diet - eat carbs/don't eat carbs, eat meat/don't eat meat, drink milk/don't drink milk. It seems we have our work cut out for us as the rest of the country shares in the cynicism of my friends and family. Today I will purchase my first carton of soymilk.

Name: Rich. Hunter
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Connecticut
Time: 2000-05-20 09:48:51
Comments: I learned of this site by watching a guest on Mary Mucci's MSGmetro's METRO HOLISTIC show on Saturday a.m., on May 20, 2000. Thankk you!

Name: Nolalee Schenk
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Nevada USA
Time: 2000-05-20 02:25:13
Comments: Milk should be banned!!!

Name: Frank Murphy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Glasgow, Scotland
Time: 2000-05-16 11:32:18
Comments: I've read this, and other linked sites, and it makes me sad, because I'm sure the mucoids in milk are what gives me my blocked up nose and deep chesty coughs when I get a cold, but I am hopelesly devoted to milk. Maybe it's a childhood thing, but I love nothing better than to come home after a long day, and grab a well-cold carton of skimmed milk, and polish the lot off. I couldn't, or wouldn't, like to imagine a world where I couldn't drink milk. Irn-bru and coke and all that jazz is OK, but fruit juice gives me heartburn, and I just can't bring myself to try substitute milk yet. Water is just not the same, even although Glasgow water from Loch Katrine is some of the best in the world. I am resigned to dealing with my nose and chest as a side-effect of drinking milk, just as I accept the bruises and cuts as a side-effect of playing rugby, and a splitting head and furry tongue as a side-effect of a night on the booze. I think we should tax meat, to make it a special treat, and so lower the amount, and raise the quality, of the amount eaten, and also, use the tax to raise living standards of the animals that are still bred for it. But, I think that is more of aproblem than dairy products, and, until everyone is better- educated in diet, we need to put problems with milk on a burner further back, and, although you'll probably disagree, actively promote it as a source of calcium and iron, which is more important for women, but do so in association with promotion of better living standards for the livestock. I think you have to look for better standards first, and get people used to thinking about the animals welfare, before leading them towards the end goal. Best of luck with educating the widert world, but I hope you don't hold it against me if I hope you're not too succesful with milk in my lifetime. I honestly would miss my carton greatly.

Should you become as unfortunate as I and get cancer please keep in mind that my cancer grows 4.5 times slower with no more IGF-1 from cow's milk and dairy in my system.

Should the abundance of saturated fats and cholesterol lead to heart disease... sorry... no easy salvation from that one.

I still miss the acquired taste of milk and dairy... but it is no longer a "taste to die for".

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany
Time: 2000-05-15 20:44:00
Comments: In reference to the message referencedin Record 1676 - I suspect that the reason humans are living such long healthy lives is precisely because we're smart enough to drink milk throughout our entire lives. Conversely, perhaps the cause of most diseases is living in houses and wearing clothes. Note that simply fixating on an idea (ie. milk is bad because I have arbitrarily decided that it must be) does not make it true. Furthermore, having the support of fringe vegans, crystal healers, spirit channelers, and all manner of refugees from the 1960s doesn't make your ideas seem more credible. Hey - did the residents of ancient Atlantis drink milk?

Dear Erich,

I do not imagine that the residents of Atlantis domesticated dolphins and whales so that they might drink their body fluids.

What is a fringe vegan? Are you a fringe lamb chop eater? Does brain food for you consist of animal brains?

In colonial times, the average American did not reach the half-century mark. As a matter of fact, an American child born in 1900 was expected to live for only 47.3 years (World Almanac, year 2000 edition).

The single greatest stride in longevity resulted from improvements in sanitation and safe water supplies. In the year 2000, nations not possessing these two resources experienced high mortality rates.

By 1920, the average American's lifespan jumped 14 pecent (54.1 years). By 1940, the expected lifespan jumped another sixteen percent (62.9 years). The average expected lifespan of a child born in 1960 jumped another eleven percent (69.7 years). By the mid 1980's, the 75 year lifespan was reached, and that number has remained relatively unchanged. Has mankind reached a limit?

I say NOT.

During the Renaissance, mankind was "plagued" by high infant mortality rates. Cows produced only one-quart of milk per day, and lack of refrigeration meant that dairy consumption was very low. Although infant mortality rates were high, history suggests that people lived to ripe old ages.

Leonardo DaVinci died when he was 67. Cervantes died at 69. Copernicus, 70. Galileo, 78. Donatello died when he was 80, and Bellini lived until age 86. Michaelangelo died when he was 89, and Titan lived until age 99.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rita
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-05-15 17:47:27
Comments: I like the slogan... Got milk? Get Pus. how gross... im never touching milk again. I cant stand to think that im drinking a cold glass of dead white blood cells held together with a dash of glue.

Name: Erich Heino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany, originally
Time: 2000-05-14 22:41:23
Comments: If drinking the milk of other mammals is unnatural, and unnatural conditions are inherently bad, why is Dr. NotMilkMan living in a house, wearing clothes, drinking something other than surface water? Shouldn't he be eating raw, uncooked food, huddling naked in a cave, and avoiding all trappings of modern society? Or is cow's milk the only thing wrong with the entire world?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Erich,

Raw uncooked foods? What's wrong with that? Many people have returned to a raw food diet and enjoy better health as a result.

I love the comforts of home. Man has created tools and in doing so, has tamed his environment. We have gained much wisdom throughout the millennia.

Our ancestors knew the effects of food/fuel on our bodies. Twenty-first century man has become so sophisticated, that such wisdom is no longer a part of our psyche.

Why avoid the "trappings?" Our destiny is to utilize our natural resources and enjoy heaven on earth. Part of that destiny is to live over 100 years. By giving up just one food group, man will discover and enjoy his previously unattainable "Fountain of Youth."

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Missouri
Time: 2000-05-14 22:29:39
Comments: Hi Robert! Regarding milk and zits - I drink a lot of milk - eat all kinds of cheeses, butter, whipped cream on everything sweet - I'm seriously addicted to Blue Bunny Ice Cream drumsticks (one or two every day). And I have no zits - can't find one single pimple. What's up with that? If I quit dairy will my face break-out with pus-filled zits? Will I gain weight (I could use a few extra pounds)? Unfortunately, all those hormones didn't give me a Playboy Bunny body, but mine is slim and healthy. All these horrible things that are supposed to happen to people when they drink bovine body fluid just are not happening to me - am I a 'freak' of nature? If so - I'm a happy one - 'pus-tache', raging hormones and all!

NOTMILKMAN'S RESPONSE:

Dear Carla,

Oh, to be young again!

You, Carla, are no teenager! Your daughter goes to high school with others her age who have RHS (raging hormone syndrome). For teens, it's a blemish on their exteriors.

For you, it's your insides that concern me. You are a milk drinking, milk promoting dairywoman, and you've visited before...and I like your sense of humor.

By age 52 the average American will have consumed from milk and dairy, the equivalent cholesterol contained in 1,000,000 slices of bacon. Heart disease is America's number one killer, and I know you have a good spiritual heart, Carla, but your arteries should concern the two of us. Ease up on those dangerous animal fats, cholesterol, and powerful growth hormones.

Your exterior might resemble a shiny new Ferrari, but your insides may very well be a rotting Corvair -- "Unsafe at any Speed."

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: SHEREE BOTTE
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: EDISON NEW JERSEY
Time: 2000-05-14 14:45:34
Comments: SAW YOU ON TV AND WANTED MORE INFO. WISH YOU WERE SPREADING THIS MESSAGE OUT TO A GREATER POPULATION. AFTER ALL LOOK HOW THE DAIRY INDUSTRY SPREADS ITS MESSAGE.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sheree,

That's where you come in!

The dairy industry markets their myths with $500 million dollars of their money and hundreds of millions of dollars of goverment subsidies.

We have the INTERNET. Please help spread the message.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: M. D. Ballard
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Staten Island, New York
Time: 2000-05-14 08:46:30
Comments: I saw you on a cable station here in Staten Island on Sat. 5/13/00. I'm always happy to see people speaking Truth to Power!

Name: Katrina
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Tennessee
Time: 2000-05-13 15:13:19
Comments: I just wanted to say I love your site! Whenever I feel like jumping off the wagon, I come to your site, and remind myself why I am going vegan! I used to be such a cheese junkie. I thougth giving up dairy would be extremely hard. You know what? I hardly miss it at all. When you don't smoother your food with cheese and cream sauces, you actually get to taste the other food. My husband is in the military, and is going vegan with me. His PT scores have actually gone up, and he says he feels much better. (Although he alwasy has been pretty healthy). You know, it really strikes me as funny...I've been studing herbology and other natural remedies for about 5 years now, and eveything that I've come across says to cut back on animal products (especially dairy). Doesn't it occur to anyone that we are a sick nation? Diseases are contantly on the rise. Will everyone need to have a deadly or painfull disease before we look at our living and eating habits? I really applaud the work you are doing, Robert. Good luck with your efforts!

Name: Pat Spir
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ocala Florida
Time: 2000-05-13 11:49:43
Comments: Due to milk allergy, have avoided milk for years, forget to check fo it as ingredients in packaged foods. Look at others with horrible skin, and wonder why they have zits, and I don't. Great info, keep up the good work. I sent info from the article in Spread The Word to everyone on our email list.

Name: Grant Richmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minesota
Time: 2000-05-10 21:18:21
Comments: kewl

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-05-10 15:18:26
Comments: Bought & paid for? NO MORE. It is time we start supporting a candidate that will ensure that the 80% of americans who want our food labeled, get it. The father of labeling & public right's to know, is RALPH NADER. He is running real & strong. Nader has already earned 5% of the VOTING population's vote, so he is not last in the polls. Only the Minority of americans vote, since they are fed up with the candidates, and lack of democracy. The Nonvoting Majority will show for this one, and he could easily WIN. (Me included, So now i have to hurry to register to vote.) I will cast my ballot for someone i am for, and not for the "lesser of two evils" which is how i am told, most people have been voting. Abraham Lincoln, won with 39% of the votes in a four way split. We have a four way split now. This is our chance to get the democracy back. As Jim Hightower says, This guy has done more for the public in his lifetime than all the candidates put together. Robert you & him attend many meetings together. I think it is time to start getting the word out about his campaign. He is the only guy that will put a brake on the GE thing. By the way we can all sleep better at night knowing the GE salmon that will be on American's plates, not mine, next year will be sterile.Nader campaing needs volunteers. Thanks. www.votenader.com

Name: John McDaniel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maine, USA
Time: 2000-05-09 17:27:26
Comments: I heard about your site on the Howie Carr show. I drink some milk because I like the test of it and I don't want to lose the ability to digest it. I don't drink it very often though because it does seem a bit odd that we are adult mamals and we are drinking the milk of another species. I ruined my father's dinner once by mentioning to him that it would be less strange for us to drink gorilla milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Continue thinking, John. Why stop at gorilla?

How about a nice cold glass of human breast milk with your cookies?

Instinctively, you are aware that milk contains substances that should not be in your body.

From aardvark to zebra, drinking milk from any species of animal sounds disgusting, but humans subordinate their innate wisdom to brainwashing ads (billions of dollars of milk marketing over the past 75 years).

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tom Langan
Website:
Referred by: Lycos
From: Wisconsin
Time: 2000-05-06 21:21:50
Comments: Being a dairy producer, I find your site quite interesting. I would like to comment on a couple of things. First of all, I can virtually garantee that there are next to NO antibiotics in the milk. We do occasionally find it necessary to treat a cow with antibiotics to help her get over a case of mastitis. We only do this on our family farm after first trying to treat the case with probiotics - all natural remedies. When we do use antibiotics, we must send a sample of milk in to our processor to have it tested before we resume milking her with the rest of the herd. Each farm's milk is sampled when the hauler picks it up. Also, each load of milk (from several producers) is tested for antibiotics before the truck is unloaded. If the load is tested positive, then each farm's milk is tested to determine where it originated. The entire load of milk is then discarded and the offending producer is then billed for the entire load which can amount to several thousand dollars. This is a very good incentive for us as producers to keep antibiotics out of the milk we ship. Next, the point you raise about our children reaching sexual maturity earlier cannot be blamed on hormones in the milk. Children have been reachind sexual maturity earlier and earlier for the past 150 years - long before rBST came along. This is simply due to better overall nutrition, plain and simple. Believe me, I hope your attempts to eliminate rBST are successfull! I don't use it myself just because I believe it will only add to the dairy surplus and lower my milk price. Some food for thought....

More and more dairy farmers are supporting Mr. Cohen.

He says, "I will be appearing in Washington with (hopefully) 1000 dairy farmers, Pete Harden, Ralph Nader, etc. on June 17th.

Each truck driver only tests for the presence of four antibiotics, while many dozens more are in use.

Consumers Union and the New York Times tested independently selected milk samples and found the presence of 52 different antibiotics in the milk."

Mr. Cohen can be contacted via Email or call him at 1-201-871-5871

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Glenn Kr Hansen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: University of Trondheim, Norway
Time: 2000-05-06 14:02:21
Comments: Hi! I live in the country that drinks most milk in the whole world pr sitisen. It can even be though to be a nomilk-person. If u say that milk is bad for u, others get angry at u for saying so. It realy hurts their feelings or something. It is sick how the milkindustry is working. It`s good to have people like u to put some light on things. Thank u!

Name: June Bird
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 2000-05-06 01:14:15
Comments: Please come along to http://www.animal-lib.org.au/interviews and see what some rich, famous, talented and incredibly good looking people have to say about milk and meat consumption!...June Bird...xxxx

Name: george
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Palo Alto, CA
Time: 2000-05-05 23:06:02
Comments: Great book, a real page turner. I'm doing a speech for my speech class @ SJSU and it's called: Milk, Stop the Horror. I haven't had liquid milk in years, and I am pretty much down to ice cream and cheese on occasions - I just never felt good after eating eating most milk products so i just fell out of the habit. But until reading your book, I never really knew just HOW AWFUL milk stuff is for people. The hardest thing to do will be to find *yummy* cheese substitues :^) Thank you SO much for your hard work and dedication. Please take care of yourself so you can continue to sound the battle cry! -george

Name: Sally Ullstrup
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Arizona
Time: 2000-05-04 19:41:30
Comments: I stopped drinking milk three years ago after being a two-gallon-of-skim-a-week-aholic. i have never looked back. I am only more encouraged when reading info on websites such as yours. Thank you for all your hard work and efforts made to help other ignorant people understand that we are not meant to suck juices out of a cow's teet. MILK SU_KS!!!!

Name: '
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-05-03 22:04:21
Comments: Wow you do tell alot of facts about milk , but you only seem to tell enough about milk to scare the hell out of somone.When you say that all these things that are in milk such as all 59 hormons, bactera ,blood,pus,and pest and herbicides,ect. you dont give any figures or how much of each item is in a gallon of prossed milk.You can say that these items are in milk and i guess you cant be called a lier.But you wouldnt it sound better if you would say how much or what the % of each one of these things are in milk, what effects they can have on you , and how much dairy products you would have to consume in a days time for it even to have any effect on you?Isn't igf-1 a normal component in in blood and other body fluids?Isn't the amount of igf-1 in 1.5 litres of milk less than 0.1% of the amount our body produces each day?It would sound so much beter if you would give a few more facts and actual test results rather than saying ,yes these things are in milk. But my question is , is there realy enough of them in milk to hurt you?

Sigh! When are you pro-milk industry plants going to get the guts to be responsible for your words? Most of your ilk provide no means for communications... but you didn't even provide a fake name!

"how much of each item is in a gallon of prossed milk"

When a toxins or poison do CUMULATIVE damage... how much from nasty stuff like arsenic or cyanide is "too much"?

Read the numbers on obesity, heart disease, cancer, osteoporosis, diabetes, asthma, behavioral problems and more... and answer your own questions. Especially so, when you take into account that the USDA food pyramid suggests that 8% or less of daily intake be from cow's milk and dairy... AND OTHER FATTY FOODS, and statistically Americans consume almost 40% of their diets in only cow's milk, dairy, and its derivatives.

"Isn't igf-1 a normal component in in blood"

Of course. But mother nature is smart (and kind) enough to STOP PRODUCTION of it when our needs have been fulfilled. Any additional amount simply adds fuel to a flickering cancer fire... which makes IGF-1 a KEY FACTOR in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate, lung and colon cancers!

As to your "is there realy enough of them in milk to hurt you?" I suggest that our tragic health statistics on the obese and sick shout "YES!".

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nameless,

The amount of "free" IGF-I in an adult human is equal to the amount of IGF-I in one 12-ounce glass of milk, about 3000 nanograms.

In her lifetime, a human female will naturally produce the equivalent of one tablespoon of estrogen. Hormones work on a nanomolecular scale. That is to say, only a very small amount measured in billionths of grams is necessary to exert powerful biological effects.

Like a key fitting into a lock, IGF-I in humans and cows is identical. The same key opens the door to powerful growth effects. IGF-I has been identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of every human cancer.

Nearly one out of three Americans will die of cancer. Nearly two out of three Americans will die of heart disease. Avoid those dangerous animal fats and cholesterol, and don't ingest powerful growth hormones!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-05-03 19:21:06
Comments: They must be camouflaging these GE articles in the NYT since i missed the recent one. I did just catch NPR saying how the President is starting a campaign to reassure(brainwash) the American public as well as the Europeans that GE food is safe. Also claiming government is looking at the environmental impact which had been ignored until now.(That is reassuring right there!) Plus, wasn't it wonderful that manufacturers now have the option to Voluntarily label their products! Finally something about reviewing the product for 120 days before it gets thrown out to the public...etc.(missed some here.) I can't wait to see who will be the first to put In big bold letters "Our product is GE" This sounds like a joke. I can just imagine the add campaigns, i would love to see suggestions from people. Who will be first, any bets? On another urgent note, anyone interested in helping a farming family avoid continued Hexazione contamination can. Write an email before the 8th of March See www.getipm.com, enter, & see action alert. It is a compelling story. A few e-mails could change their future & their health. Also let the chemical board know that you support Organic blueberries. Thanks

Name: Larry Boies
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Seattle, WA
Time: 2000-05-03 01:17:51
Comments: I heared you on the Ernie Brown show, on KOMO radio. I am very interested in your research with dairy products. I am (57) years old, and have realisticly consumed an average of 3 to 6 gallons of milk per week, my entire life. I know there have been days when I have consumed 2 gallons. I believe, I am addicted to it. I believe your research, and am going to take your advice, and quit all dairy products for a week. I would like to quit for a month, I'll try for a week at a time. I have a (20) year old daughter who has all kinds of aller gies, and was diagnosed with a milk allergy when she was a little girl, we took her off milk (dairy prod.) for a month. She had quite a change, she also quit wetting the bed, and she was told by the naturepath to only have a little dairy products every 3 or 4 days. She has done fairly well, but now suffers from asma. Please excuse my spelling. Anyway, I am going to coppy some of your info for her and myself, she now has children, they are having bad health problems. Thank you so much, for your research, and fell free to E-mail me at any time. Sincerelly, Larry Boies

Name: Clara Libatter
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Uruguay
Time: 2000-05-01 14:48:25
Comments: I love this site because it gave me peace of mind. I´m vegetarian and started a vegan diet 4 months ago. Since I´m 43 and female, guess what the doctor told me about osteoporosis...

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-04-30 23:27:29
Comments: "Everyone has the right...to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas through any media, regardless of frontiers." Article 19 Universal Declaration Of Human Rights

The flip side of that is:

You can lead a horse to water.. but you cannot make it drink!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dave and Carmen,

Dave's response reminds me of Dorothy Kilgallen's famous retort aimed at the ignorant.

Kilgallen was one of the panelists on "What's My Line," and she was also a columnist and great wit. When asked to define 'horticulture,' she responded:

You can lead a whore-to-culture, but you can't make her think.

There are millions of bright people who have had the veil of ignorance placed over their vision by a 50 year media assault. These people would be repulsed by the thought of drinking milk from 42,999 species of mammal, but from the cow it sounds delicious.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: susie garren
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: CA
Time: 2000-04-30 20:58:13
Comments: i commend all your efforts & research. it's up to us to spread the word & get it through their thick shells. i suggest to enclose more information on the harm it brings the animals as well as humans.thank you.

Name: rochelle newton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: new york
Time: 2000-04-29 18:46:32
Comments: You people s*ck. Have you really thought about what life would be like without milk? There would be no ice cream or cheese or what would you drink with your cookies? Pop? Oh and that is so healthy. The majority of the additives and chemicals you speak of are naturally in milk but have also been added by those of us whose lives are devoted to the dairy industry. Why don't you take up a real cause or atleast learn a few facts about the one you have chosen!!!! I hope you all die from milk withdrawl and don't you dare have any ice cream this summer when it is over a 100 degrees outside. CHEERS TO YOU ALL AS I DRINK A GLASS OF MILK THAT MY COWS PRODUCED TODAY AND I'LL HAV ETHE LAST LAUGH WHEN YOU ARE ALL DEAD AND GONE!!!!!

Enjoy the fruits of your self-imposed ignorance... for they will be many!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Amanda Murphy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Florida
Time: 2000-04-29 16:03:54
Comments: This website is very good. You could tell that you put alot of hard work into it, but not drinking milk is not healthy or inhumane. To get rid of the diease or what ever the cow might have they pasturize the milk. Didn't you ever drink milk?? Please answer my questions with the e-mail address above...

My... my. You didn't read ANYTHING, did you!

The truth is there... over 400 WEB pages (around 2200 MORE
pages then are in Mr. Cohen's book... and all FREE!

Forget what you THINK you know and READ (for your health!).

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster



NOTMILKMAN Comments:

Dear Amanda,

Read a doctor's advice to his patients:

KRADJIAN http://www.afpafitness.com/milkdoc.htm

I have written thousands of things. Tell me one that you disagree with
in any of my hundreds of columns:

COLUMNS http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html

How about just one thing you disagree with in the following:

CALCIUM http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html
DIABETES http://www.notmilk.com/deb/011099.html

Robert Cohen


Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 2000-04-27 09:27:19
Comments: Obnoxious, desperate dairy: at a bus stop here in DC, one of those huge ads that reads: "400 homers, 3000 hits, how many glasses of milk? Thanks Cal." Folks, if this kind of blatant stuff outrages you too, I would like to suggest adbusters.org for some good grassroots ideas on what they call "culture jamming"!

Name: Christina
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: NJ
Time: 2000-04-26 22:04:08
Comments: This web-site is one of the best Anti-dairy milk sites ive seen yet.Keep up the good work.

Name: russell hollis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: vermont
Time: 2000-04-25 23:01:33
Comments: wonderful resource... i will share this site with all my friends. thank you.

Name: joanmcgovern
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Santa Fe, N>M
Time: 2000-04-25 15:29:11
Comments: my friend SteveN James told me to look you up. Thanks

Name: Bryn Thomas
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Woodstock, NY
Time: 2000-04-24 22:06:36
Comments: i was at the potluck in kingston, ny and truly enjoyed everything that you had said. i had went vegan a week or so before that because i have endometriosis and was told that it might help. i was totally struggling because i had been an absolute cheese and ice cream addict and you really inspired me. i've been strick vegan for about a month now and recently had some ice cream and threw up because of it. it's awful about what the fda is doing and i totally respect your work. i'm 16 and have been vegetarian for 6 years and veganism is definetly the way to go. all i know is that my kids (wayy down the road) will definetly be vegan because there is no question in my mind that it's better for you. my energy has boosted and i feel like a new person. thanx for the inspiration. keep on fighting those fda @#&*@'s!!!---*bryn*

Name: Samuele Mazzolini
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Italy
Time: 2000-04-24 17:10:35
Comments: We have to fight against the machine!!! The machine is USA,Monsanto,Mc Donald's,Nestlè,... RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!!!! Samuele Mazzolini

Name: Frannie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Canada
Time: 2000-04-22 09:15:31
Comments: I am 13 years old and I heard about this site from my mother. We have both decided to stop drinking milk after we read this. I also have asthma and it says in here that it is better for asthma if you do not drink milk. Plus all the other reasons why we shouldn't drink it, like the infection from the cows in the milk, now that just totally grossed me out! Well, thats about it, thanx! oh ya, and please visit my page and sign my guest book and e-mail me, thanx!

Name: Frannie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Canada
Time: 2000-04-22 08:47:55
Comments: This site is very helpful and gives alot of great information, I enjoyed reading everything thank-you!

Name: Rachel
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-04-20 23:35:32
Comments: This is a really good page. I'm vegetarian and against animal cruelty, but I was wondering something. My cousin is a farmer and he has cows. He has organic milk and I know he doesn't kill them after he milks them (or whatever). Is it still right for me to drink it?

You are still "attached" to the GREATEST myth of the
20th century.

Cow milk and dairy are NOT appropriate for humans!

Doctor Spock said about the same thing before he died.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Kristina Kruzan
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Seattle, WA
Time: 2000-04-20 17:28:56
Comments: I've read your guest book off and on with a mixture of pleasure, frustration, laughter and disgust. It's wonderful to know that you are receiving a wide range of people on your site- If they think about this issue for just 2 minutes, that's *something* more than if they didn't. We have to start somewhere!

I volunteer for a breastfeeding advocacy organization, http://www.promom.org. I'll be resigning from the Board of the Directors this term but I've spent 3+ wonderful years with them.

Your website really broadened my view about 'milk' and what it means to our children, and our culture. I'm suprised more breastfeeding organizations don't make this association and act on it. We ask that women breastfeed their children and not give them formula which comes from cows- yet when the children hit a year old, we have no issue with giving them cow's milk. Something is wrong with this picture. The average weaning age of a child is 4+ years old, and we who work in BF advocacy hope that each child is breastfed for as long as possible. Yet we don't question when our milk is effectively replaced in our child's diet by that of a cow, whether it happens at birth, 1 year, 3 years or 5 years of age.

I would like to see the 'notmilk' crowd and the 'probreastfeeding' crowd collaborate at some point. I envision a joint effort at changing the minds of our legislators about what we're putting into our bodies, and what we're choosing to feed our children.

Feel free to email me at magicke@hotmail.com

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kristina,

Human breast milk is the PERFECT substance for a nursing baby human.

We support your organization, and have a link to "101 Reasons to Breastfeed Your Child" on our website:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Inessa Vishnevkine
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 2000-04-19 22:18:41
Comments: This is a really great website! I became a vegan about a month ago and it's quite rewarding! Not only are animal products unhealthy, but they hurt animals! Cows live their lives in misery to make milk for people. They should not suffer so much, just to feed us. We have so many things to eat besides dairy - why contribute to animal cruelty? "The human body has no more need for cows' milk, than it does for dogs' milk, horses' milk, or giraffes' milk"

Name: Alex
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-19 18:27:38
Comments: Milk is important to your body and calcium helps you grow stronger. Hope you al morons get week in the bones when you get old... IF you get old.

Too bad you chose not to read any of the 300+ pages
(about 2500 printed sheets of paper). It might have
keep you healthier... longer.

Dave Rietz, Webmaster

Name: Kraighe MacCoinnich
Website:
Referred by: ust Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-19 08:41:12
Comments: Daphne said: "But if you eat it all the time it doesn't do anything to you." I ate it all the time and it made me SO sick (everyday the dairy induced stomach cramps had me wanting to kill myself, but I couldn't even do that as it was so painful). So what Daphne says is a load of bullcrapt, basically...... just like the Dairy industry; they feed us Cow Milk and Bull Crap.

Name: LC
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Canada
Time: 2000-04-18 15:29:34
Comments: A couple months back I read some articles about why milk isn't good for you. Since then, I have not drank on sip of milk. Although I do sometimes idulge in dairy products such as ice cream or cheese on my pizza, there are some that I love, but have completely given up. Thanks to articles and sites like yours for pointing me in the right direction!

Remember that the nasty stuff in cow's milk is TIMES ONE.

It takes:

EIGHT pounds of milk to make one pound of Sherbet
TEN pounds of milk to make one pound of hard cheese
TWELVE pounds of milk to make one pound of ice cream
TWENTY ONE pounds of milk to make one pound of 100% fat BUTTER

You guessed it! "X" times whatever in every bite.

By the way... why are so many folks afraid to provide a valid Email address?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Alicia Aguirre
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Madrid, Spain.
Time: 2000-04-18 10:37:52
Comments: Hello again. A few weeks ago I signed your guestbook but didn't dare leave my email address. To tell you the truth, I saw so many infuriated people insulting you and the contents of this page that I thought I had better not leave it, just in case anybody decided to write me a similar "love letter". But hey, who cares? I'll handle them if they do. My email is aliciaaguirre@hotmail.com and if you want to read what I wrote, it's on record nº 1617 (not that it's specially interesting). In the meantime, I'm sending the address of the Notmilk page to everybody I know here in Spain and abroad. Bye for now!
We appreciate your courage, Alicia, and thank you for your support.

The beauty of Email is that there is always the DELETE button.
At worst... one can always "filter out" the persistent unwanted stuff.

I see you are from beautiful and historic Madrid. My wife Isabel was born Jerez de la Frontera... and I discovered her in Cadiz. I stole her from Spain 39 years ago :-)

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Danyelle Weiss
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 2000-04-17 13:27:55
Comments: I have been a vegetarian for about a year, and just recently converted to becoming a vegan. Although, I have never missed meat, I do miss foods like cheese and ice cream. Everytime I have a craving, I look for a website like yours to keep my personal mission on track. I was very interested in your article on casein, being an asthmatic, I am anxious to see if my condition changes in the coming dairy-free months ahead! Thank-you! Danyelle Weiss

Go to http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html
and read about Fo-Jo... and similar articles.

Dave Rietz, Webmaster.


Name: DAphne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 2000-04-17 09:42:46
Comments: I don't know if I could live without milk. If I did go without it for a week and then ate a lot i probably would get sick because my body wouldn't be used to it. It would be like that with anything. But if you eat it all the time it doesn't do anything to you.

As an ex-dairy lover/user for 60 years I do very well without it. More to the point, my terminal prostate cancer grows FOUR TIMES SLOWER than when I consumed dairy!!!

How you can assume that 59 hormones, the equivalent cholesterol of 34.5 slices of bacon a day (IF you have no more than three glass of milk a day), 49% of calories from saturated fats, a steady influx of a powerful histamine (mucus maker), and a daily bombardment of virus, bacteria, herbicides, pesticides, dioxins, residue of up to 52 antibiotics, and more... "doesn't do anything to you" is beyond me.

Enjoy... for less time than you were allocated. I did, and I have paid dearly for my misplaced trust.

By the way... will you ever muster up the integrity to be responsible for your words? GOT EMAIL?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: michael e. chaplinsky
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: pennsylvania
Time: 2000-04-16 23:04:45
Comments: After reading all of the articles for the anti milk society, I am beginning to realize something: Big Business is Bad Business. I am an addisonian, i have no adrenals. I was raised on a diet high in milk products, although I now do not consume milk in the quantities I did as a child. I do however, use Creamer in my coffee, and eat a fair amount of cheese. This would call for some massive overhaul of my eating habits to remove all traces of Casein, and other dairy related products. My health has been a sour issue since 1975, and now I'm wondering (not paranoia)if this country's lust for profits hasn't made me who I am today. I think maybe we all should adopt a nonmilk day ( like the smokeouts so common today) to send a message to the lawmakers, and maybe then they might listen. Also, is is possible that CJD in humans is disguised as Alzheimers Disease, there is a striking similarity of afflections. This leaves a lot to ponder, I wouldn't doubt it for a moment. Thankx for your forum, i appreciate the chance to comment. Thank You, Michael E. Chaplinsky

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Michael,

The human form of mad cow disease is called CJD, or Cruetzfeld-Jacob disease. Cruetzfeld and Jacob were two physicians who worked with Dr. Alzheimer, and all three specialized in brain diseases leading to dimentia.

At times, CJD is behaviorally similar to Alzheimer's. However, neurologists are able to diagnose the differences...if they are "looking." Brain wave patterns differ, and simple blood tests can identify a patient with CJD.

One area of concern to me is when a patient has Alzheimers, and then gets CJD. Alzheimers is not pleasant. Quite often, death becomes a welcome relief to many years of suffering. In the case of CJD, onset of death after the first symptom is rapid, often lasting six months or less. Rarely, if ever are autopsies performed upon Alzheimer's patients.

One notable exception provided an enormous surprise, and a dire warning for Americans. Scientists at a Pennsylvania University have 120 brains in their depository. These brains are from patients who supposedly died from Alzheimers. A recent examination of those brains revealed that nearly ten percent actually died from CJD and not Alzheimers.

Drink milk and eat flesh from diseased animals and you might one day find yourself with the human equivalent of bovine spongioform encephalitis.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dwayne Bassett
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Atlanta, GA
Time: 2000-04-16 20:36:04
Comments: How can an individual become involved on a "grass roots" level or support the education process through this organization?

All US Citizens have the same options.

* Write to the FDA and let them know of your concerns.

Commissioner Jane Henney
Food & Drug Administration
Parklawn
5600 Fishers Lane
Rockville, MD 20857

Stephen F. Sundlof, D.V.M., Ph.D.
Director, Center for Veterinary Medicine
HFV1
7500 Standish Pl.
Rockville, MD 20855

* If you think there is fraud... contact the US DoJ

U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

* Write your congressional reps with your concerns.

US Congress Search

* Tell your family, friends, co-workers, PTA, Church groups... and have them pass around URL's (notmilk.com and hungerstrike.com), and invite discussions and action on the subject.

* Write or call your local media (Radio, TV, Newspapers)

* Inform your supermarket managers of your concerns, and inform him/her you are one of many who will stop buying products that use questionable substances (rbGH laced milk and dairy). * Return products for the same reason and request a full refund.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Tutu
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-16 15:48:11
Comments: Great site!! Keep the good work up... People who enjoyed visiting this site may also find the following site interesting: http://whistleblowers.freehosting.net

Name: Jessica Semar
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Cary
Time: 2000-04-15 23:46:55
Comments: I found your site to very helpful and important. I now have information to give to others to prove to them why they shouldn't drink milk and eat meat. Your insight is very important for people to read, and I thank you for caring about others.

Name: Pam
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ireland
Time: 2000-04-15 21:13:07
Comments: Thank you for taking the time and trouble to create this wonderful site. I have long been aware of how bad milk is and wanted to talk about this at a public speaking group that I am in. Your wonderful site provided me with loads of information to qualify my arguments. Everyone was so impressed (and shocked). Keep up the good work. I was able to give many people your website address and I hope they log on and learn. Again thank you, Pam.

Name: Jean
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: North West
Time: 2000-04-15 04:02:52
Comments: I am a parent to five dairy free children. I am sickened at our public schools for pushing dairy and hormone laced food products onto innocent children, especially those whose choices have been taken from them through the "free" lunch program. As a comparative to my children and those with daily dairy consumption, my children are healthier, and not surprising more emotionally stable as altered foods are not wreaking havoc on thier endoctrine systems...

Name: Starleen
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Washington State
Time: 2000-04-15 00:01:06
Comments: I want to thank you for doing what you are doing. Although I am a major dairy eater and drinker and always have been I am giving it up for my health.

Name: Dave Wilbur
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Missouri
Time: 2000-04-14 18:09:39
Comments: Does government prefer healthy money to healhy people? They published a booklet titled: KEEPING OUR MONEY HEALTHY where they said their UNLIMITED money would keep its value "if there were fewer people biding against each other". Do cancer and other diseases leave fewer people to bid against each other? For this booklet, the Library of Congress Catalogue Number is: 60-14368 / Revised, January 1979 It was published by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and was out of print but it may have been reprinted.

Most certainly fewer citizens will keep the Social Security system
in better shape...

Name: Maggie Carson
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 2000-04-13 20:29:49
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I commend you on the your strength and selfless actions on the part of the American people. If some of your guests here could only begin to understand the power of the conglomerates that you are up against and the danger of knowing their 'truths', they would surely understand all of this easily. Unfortunately, it has always taken just one voice in the darkness to make all the differance in the world. Keep the faith, Mr. Cohen, the real truth ALWAYS reveals itself.

Thank you!


Name: Daphne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 2000-04-13 09:39:29
Comments: You said that milk causes early puberty in teenagers in the United states, I don't think it is because of milk. Teenagers in the U.S. eat more and have more nutrition than people in China. Therefore teenagers grow faster in the U.S. than in China. Puberty comes when you are at a certain weight, since teenagers weigh more earlier in age here than in China they go through puberty earlier. I think you are just twisting the facts around to make them say what you want them to. You say milk causes diarrhea and constipation. When people go on vacation thay drink water from that place, that could be one of their problems. I really doubt that ice cream causes constipation.I drink milk and eat ice cream all the time and I am never constipated. I drink usually about 3 or 4 glasses of milk each day and I don't have any of these diseases.

Please get your facts straight!

Mr. Cohen didn't say "milk causes early puberty"... rather, a detailed report on the Japanese following their society after being concurred... contains that information. JUNK SCIENCE VS. TRUTH ABOUT EARLY PUBERTY FROM MILK details that feature of milk from simple statistics.

"You say milk causes diarrhea and constipation"

Try a simple test... "Daphne" (if that is your name)... and let your OWN body tell you about cow's milk and dairy. For ONE WEEK... consume NO milk or dairy (and this will be very difficult... as dairy is everywhere!). You will have to read labels... to eliminate EVERYTHING with anything "caseinate" in it, anything with WHEY in it, and anything that uses milk, cheese or butter in it as either an ingredient OR as part of the preparation (such as frying something in butter).

Then... on the EIGHTH day pig out. Have two or more slices of pizza with LOTS of cheese, wash it down with a malt, milkshake or glass of milk, and top off this tasty treat with lots of ice cream.

Then... unless you are too embarrassed to tell the world about it... come back and give us full putrid details on the "aftermath". Should you work up the courage to do this... perhaps you will become honest, forthright and accountable enough to provide a valid EMAIL address that will allow others to express their minds to YOU!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster



Name: Adam Simpson
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: London
Time: 2000-04-13 07:25:14
Comments: I first found out about the problems of milk through Maximuscle company. I was wondering, can acne/spots be one of the side effects through eating dairy produce? This is the main reason i have cut my dairy intake. Please someone advise me on this!!! ferret@adam21.fsnet.co.uk

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Adam,

In England you call them "spots," and in America we call'em "zits." Either way, these oily/greasy pus-filled pimples contain dead white blood cells, the same thing that makes milk what it is.

Eliminate pus with hormones, fat, and cholesterol (milk) and your complexion should be rosy. Attend a meeting of your local VEGAN society and note how smoothie and beautiful are the faces of its members. Then go to a meeting of beefeaters anonymous, and note the lumpy skin, powerful bad breath, and obnoxious body odors.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



Name: Russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-12 23:43:36
Comments: All you people care about is selling your stupid book. It dosnt have anything to do with milk just putting money in your pockets.

Yet another wrong guess, Russ.

There are over 400 WEB pages on www.notmilk.com
and www.hungerstrike.com that when combined have
more information than there is in the 316 page book...
AND IT IS ALL FREE!

By the way... books are not stupid. Stupid people are stupid.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: april
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: mi
Time: 2000-04-12 21:10:03
Comments: hi. i just wanted to say that i think this is a great site, i've learned A LOT. right now i'm working on a research paper about milk and advertising, so this site has been a great deal of help. (-: i had one question. i was trying to find the answer on your site, but my eyes got tired after the first 50 or so of the pages (wow!). and i can't remember if this is information the mr. cohen was denied by the FDA and monsanto in that report. so i was hoping you could just answer it for me. (pretty pretty please!) anyway, my question concerns that study with the rats getting cancer. i was just curious how much of the stuff the rats were given. like, was it massive doses, or was it about the same percentage as found in milk? i'm curious because i've been learning a lot about cancer and the "politics of cancer" along with this milk study, and from what i've learned, a little bit of a "bad thing" sometimes isn't harmful. even consuming like too much vitamin C can be harmful at extremely high doses. so i was just curious if they gave the rats a reasonable amount that might be exposed to humans or if they gave it to them in mammoth sized portions. i greatly appreciate your time if you can answer this question. keep up the good work. (-:

Name: michelle brown
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Ogden. Utah
Time: 2000-04-12 20:14:50
Comments: I'm vegan and you should be to! All of you reading this!

Name: Ashley Faith
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Chicago,Illinois
Time: 2000-04-12 17:45:53
Comments: I haven't really browesed the site yet but it looks like a nice site.

Name: Denae
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-12 09:15:27
Comments: Since when is lying suitable for family viewing? I notice you made no comment to the truth that bst is a natural horomone in dairy cows. I think people who are against milk and meat should be put on a list and when the world becomes over populated and their isn't enough food to feed everybody the people on that list should be the first to starve.

As to your comment on lying... well, you will have to take that up with the likes of Clinton and all his buddies, Monsanto and their buddies, the FDA and USDA and their buddies, the Fluid Milk Processors and their PR folks... because we don't deal in lies.

There are over 300 pages on www.notmilk.com and over 100 pages on www.hungerstrike.com Your assignment is to find anything you can prove to be a lie... and present YOUR impeccable data to refute what we present as the truth.

Monsanto spent half a billion dollars inventing a Frankenstein version of BST (rbST) with five nasty errors in it. So why is it necessary to comment on the obvious? Of course BST is "natural". That is precisely why cow's milk is so dangerous... because that translates to INSULIN-LIKE GROWTH FACTOR ONE (IGF-1), a powerful growth hormone that is IDENTICAL between cow's and humans. It was designed to make a newborn GROW FAST. What do you suppose it does for humans... especially adults?

That normal IGF-1 is present in EVERY sip of milk and bite of dairy. Cow's shot up with Posilac have up to 80% more of it in their milk. I have terminal cancer... and when I had no idea concerning the WHOLE TRUTH about cow's milk and dairy.. and consumed too much of if (typical American diet).. my cancer grew with a 1.5 point PSA rise PER MONTH. Now that I have abandoned all milk and dairy the rise is a much slower 0.3 points per month. For me...and perhaps other cancer victims... eliminating dairy means a longer life!

Armed with the truth, that was consciously withheld from me for most of my 60+ years by both industry and the government, I decided almost three years ago that cow's milk and dairy... which taste GREAT (an acquired taste, by the way) were NOT a "taste to die for".

As to wishing people who disagree with you ILL WILL... well, that says a lot about your character. Perhaps you should become pen pals with Saddam Hussein?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster



Name: Mary Sutton
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: California
Time: 2000-04-11 18:13:11
Comments: I gave up milk over a year ago. My incidences of asthma and allergic reactions have significantly reduced since then. It is encouraging to find I can IMPROVE my health in middle age; usually all you get to celebrate are new dis-eases. After reading some of the information on the www.notmilk.com website, I will be even more careful to purge dairy and meat products from my diet. I can also understand why European countries (and others) do not wish to import American bred beef -- why would they if it is laced with antibiotics, steroids, and growth hormones?

Name: Rashmi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: India
Time: 2000-04-11 16:11:36
Comments: Hi, I read the disadvantages of milk yesterday in www.rediff.com (http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/apr/11inter.htm) and Indian Express newspaper. Just learn more about the milk, I was surfing the net and I hit this web site. I could not believe what I read. But after reading this, I have made up my mind to minimize (I'll try to stop also) the use of milk. Thanks for providing such good information. Rashmi

Name: julie frawley
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From:
Time: 2000-04-11 16:24:05
Comments: I am so disgusted with our "government" selling our souls and bodies out to Monsanto and the like. I am so grateful for the Internet because now all of this information is available for all to see and learn the truth. I am boycotting all of these peddlers of death, disease and destruction and will encourage as many people as possible to do the same and will pass the word along. God Bless!

Name: Christine Farnam
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Oregon
Time: 2000-04-11 13:13:24
Comments: My friend from New Zealand found your page, liked it and referred me. I have not read it all yet, but it looks GREAT!! My hubby has problems that may be related to milk products, so this site is just what we needed.

Name: Alicia Aguirre
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Madrid, Spain
Time: 2000-04-11 04:33:46
Comments: First of all, I would like to congratulate you for your page. It is well explained and informative, but it is also entertaining. I also wanted to ask a simple question: why do people get so mad when you tell them milk isn't good for them? I recently told a diabetic friend of mine that he should quit milk, and he looked at me as if I was telling him he had to kill his dog or stop loving his family or something of the sort. People truly get angry when you point out that cow's milk isn't meant for humans. "Haven't we been drinking it for ages?" they scream. I get the feeling that people react this way because it is the ultimate lie, and when they realise it, all their certainties in life crumble. If milk really isn't good for you, when what other lies have they fed us? It's much safer to stick to what they know and just go on living their lives, without asking themselves too many questions. I think it would interesting for you to make a new section in your page where you could try to explain all this to those who are firm believers in milk's goodness. Maybe there's a way to stop them from going nuts as soon as you mention the subject. I don't know if it's possible, but somebody should certainly try it. I'm doing my best here, but it's hard, you know? People actually think I'm crazy just because I ask them if they usually drink when they tell me about their ailments. I've quit milk recently too, but I didn't really drink much in the first place so it was easy. The mere idea of drinking something that came out of a cow's udder made me sick. Well, enough said. Keep up the good work!

Name: pshhh i'm not telling you
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 2000-04-10 21:22:58
Comments: YOUR PAGE (censored) ***. **** YOU, (censored) !!!!!!!!

Name: Pascalle Sweerts
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Time: 2000-04-10 15:46:59
Comments: We have linked to your website. Thank you for this great source of information. Kindest regards,

Name: Denae Johnson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-10 09:20:26
Comments: You people are so stupid, much of what you say isn't true. You say that bst is an added horomone, cows produce bst naturally. You would rather drink soy milk that contains pesticides than cow milk that is all natural!? I love milk and it has never done anything to me or anyone I know. I will continue to drink cow's milk reguardless of what you say because much of what you say is just your own personal opinion. By the way, I think it's pretty funny that you have to have someone read this entry in your guestbook and approve it before it put in the guestbook. You must be worried someone might be in support of the dairy indutry and you don't want anyone to read it before you have hours to think of some more "scientific evidence" to support your responses.

The approval phase is necessary to allow us to
eliminate language not suitable for family viewing.
Such entries most often come from unaccountable
types like you (people who provide no valid Email
address that can be used for a response).

WEBmaster


Name: shawn
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: philadelphia
Time: 2000-04-09 16:25:16
Comments: hello, i am 15 and from philadelphia. i find your site informative and interesting. i would also appreciate a response to this post. i completely agree with your views on milk as being mildly unhealthy. I do not unnescessarily drink milk, but will occasionaly have it in cereal or perhaps some cheese. from reading your website i feel that you ( unfortunately i have not spent much time on your site alone as i have been traveling among sites like yours) you, the anti milk campaign, are going about this the wrong way. for example, cohen and his fasting. i dont't feel this the write way about going about anything. drinking milk and fasting on juice are at least equally dangerous, the latter being ridicuously harmful to his health. furthermore, i feel although milk is agravatory (is that word? :) ) to the illnesses and diseases you profess, it is not the only source of them. for example, you know as well as i that early puberty in children is not from solely milk. how about the cancerous radiation produced from x-rays, technology, pollution etc? it seems to me that you are mixing religion with ethics, and an unworthy cause. how about quitting milk and helping the poor or something. there is many a problem that should & can be solved before the ignorant will stop drinking their beloved milk. i do agree with many of your views. i do believe milk is mildly dangerous, but saying that cow milk is meant for cows and human milk is for humans is nonsense. if this were true i dont think that we should eat anything outside our species. should we really eat cows if we cant drink their milk. its a hard point to follow, but if we eat their meat why cant we drink their milk. anyways. milk sucks. right on.

"saying that cow milk is meant for cows and human milk is for humans is nonsense"

Well, Shawn, you are several millions (perhaps billions) of years late with that revelation. Had you been around at the correct time in this planets evolution you could have saved mother nature loads time.

YOUR extreme tardiness with your astounding revelation caused mother nature to waste literally eons of time developing different formulation for each of the over 40,000 versions of mammal milk.... complete with species-specific immunoglobulins, lactoferrins and more. Shawn, you should hang your head in abject shame for being so late!

Those who promote dairy as "necessary and healthy" missed YOUR profound dictum that all milk is identical... because they favor only one of over 40,000 versions (and they turned up their noses at the one mother natured designed for humans!). In addition, they refuse to believe the obvious... that humans are the ONLY creatures that collect and consume the diseased body fluids of any other species. In short... humans have rejected mother natures' mandate to be weaned from her (as she designed it) emergency nutritional starter food-pack, designed to inoculate the helpless newborn with creature-specific goodies, and to promote rapid growth.

The USDA and their buddies recommend THREE 8-ounce glasses of cow's milk a day. That amount provides each user with the cholesterol equivalent of 19 slices of bacon, lots of saturated fats, concentrated toxins (anything the cow ate and stored in her fat), any combination of up to 52 different antibiotics, FIFTY NINE HORMONES, allergens, some amounts of blood, feces (the real "stuff"), assorted virus, and for added taste... the FDA allows up to 20,000,000 live bacteria and 750,000,000 pus cells... per liter.

Learning that IGF-1 was a powerful growth hormone in every sip of milk and bite of dairy... helps me to understand why my surprise case of prostate cancer had already spread by the young age of 55. That... and the rest of the truth on dairy made me to decide that any form of this substance was NOT a "taste to die for!".

Informing other humans of the WHOLE truth is only right and proper... so that they can make informed decisions for themselves.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Laura Borden
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 2000-04-09 10:32:47
Comments: I would just like to start out by saying that I am the proud daughter of a diary farmer. I have lived and worked on this 6 generation dairy farm all my life, and so forgive if i'm a little biased. I have also worked with the ADADC and other farming organizations, and am now a dairy princess. everyone is entitled to their opinion, and you accuse the dairy industry of shoving their opinion down consumers' throats. to contradict that point, what is it exactly that you are doing here? you see, people can't form their own opinions unless all the points are stated unbiasedly. let them look at the facts. as for the goodness of milk, it is your decision to do what you will with your own health. personally i believe that the mere benefits of milk are important enough that one should consider drinking those 3 glasses a day. but if not, then look at all the great products available out there. i'm not trying to sell milk here, i just want to say that i'm disappointed at your efforts to go against an industry that is so important to our nation, and the world. this one really hits close to home. You've made a choice, as many others have, and thats ok. Just make sure you know all the facts before you report.

On www.notmilk.com there are over 300 WEB pages with solid proof... from a variety of sources, and on www.hungerstrike.com there are over a hundred more.

Mankind is only ONE of over 40,000 mammals on this planet. Each of them has milk formulated for its own kind... with species-specific immunoglobulins and lactoferrins, and different percentages of the various substances. In other words, Laura Borden, mother nature designed each milk to be appropriate for only one species.

Mother nature also programs each mother to WEAN their young from milk (when appropriate)... to forage for LIFE SUSTAINING nutrients necessary for its species. THAT INCLUDES HUMAN BABIES!

Who are you, or the dairy folks, or the USDA... to countermand mother natures plan by convincing humans to nurse from a cow?

Can you name me any other, of those 40,000+ mammals, that make a habit of consuming the bodily juices of another species? Why do we not consume dog's milk... from mans best friend? Or rat, mouse, skunk, or pigs milk? Too small? OK... why not elephant or whale milk? Better yet... why not just never get weaned from our own mothers milk... mother natures "perfect food" designed for human babies?

Simple reason... because mother nature, with many millions of years of experience to her credit, didn't plan it that way!

As WEBmaster of NOTMILK.com I wish you the best of luck in your other "lifes endeavors"... because with your reading skills you will need all the good luck you can get!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim.


Name: russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-09 02:14:51
Comments: the spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.Such teachings come through HYPOCRITICAL LIARS, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.They forbid people to mary and order them to abstain from certain FOODS, wich god created to be received with thanksgiving by those who bealive and know the TRUTH.For evrything god created is good, and and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving. 1st Timothy 1-4. For those of you who like to quote the first chapter of Genesis verse 29,you may want to read the next one because some of you faild to say that we were also given all the beasts on the earth and all the birds in the sky, and evry creature that moves on the ground for food also.If you people want to use quotes out of the bible thats fine with me but you may want to read the last chapter of revelation verse 18,19 wich reads:I warn evryone who hears the words of the prohhecy of thi book:If anyone adds anything to them ,god will add to him the plagues described in this book. and if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, god will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city. So if you want to use the bible to promote your little web site it might be a good idea to use the whole passage rather that taking words out of contex and saying its from the bible when its realy not.You people are wasteing your time anyway .any smart person knows that milk is safe and is good for you

Sigh...! Yet another pro-dairy "expert" with no valid identification.

The only ISSUES that really bear on cow's milk and dairy... are the real facts omitted by those who make, modify, promote and sell it. NOTMILK and HUNGERSTRIKE.com's have the truth available... for anyone sufficiently interested in their health (and sufficiently unbiased) to read and comprehend.

Cow's milk, as a "food" for humans... has NO redeeming features as reasons to consume it. If you can handle the WHOLE truth... think obesity, osteoporosis, heart disease, accelerated cancers, diabetes, allergies, toxins, and more.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim.


Name: June Coyne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Bennington, Vermont
Time: 2000-04-08 21:52:41
Comments: Keep up the good work!

Name: serena serafin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: pa
Time: 2000-04-07 13:28:37
Comments: i like ur site alot, i just started being vegan and i am realizing how underrepresented we r in the area i live in. it's nice to get some ideas of food i can eat minus all the harful dairy agents. i saw robert cohen at a soliadrity confrence in happy valley, pa last weekend and he made an impact on me!!!

Name: Daphne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-07 09:56:44
Comments: (your entry number one)

You guys are crazy. It's like saying your against water. MILK IS GREAT AND GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who cares about your stupid studies, you probably made it up.

(your entry number two)

You guys are crazy. Milk is good for you

(your entry number three)

why are you guys against milk. What did it ever do to you? Just wondering.

Good Grief! Yet another functional illerate or 100% percent opinionated pro-dairy expert who has nothing more to learn on the subject of cow's milk or dairy.

You might consider getting your act together by trying to concentrate on just WHAT you want to say... and make only ONE post instead of three.

NOTMilk.com and hungerstrike.com are not meant for the likes of you, Daphne. These sites exists for folks who care about their lives and their health... and other who seek possible causes for their health problems that their doctors are not resolving.

Enjoy the many (but unnecessary) "fruits" of your self-imposed ingorance.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Robin Peters
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Hodgkins IL (near Chicago)
Time: 2000-04-07 02:54:14
Comments: I'm learning a lot from this website.

Name: Paul
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Michigan
Time: 2000-04-05 15:59:05
Comments: When are you communist bastards going to stop trying to destroy the american family?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Paul,

I am not a Communist, and I am not trying to destroy the American family. Two out of three ain't bad!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: amy leblanc
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button
From: San Francisco
Time: 2000-04-04 17:07:29
Comments: Your page is extremely informative and I agree with almost 100% of it. No matter what the other people on this guestbook have to say, drinking MILK is NOT natural for human beings and is NOT good for you. How many other animals drink the milk of OTHER animals? How many other adult animals drink milk AT ALL?? The answer is none. Your vet will even tell you that giving milk to your cat is bad. Also, you're correct in quoting Genesis 1:26 -- according to that scripture we were given PLANTS to eat, not animals. I am a vegetarian (not yet a vegan), but the more i read about dairy products (all the hormones -- gross!) the more i think dairy is even worse for you than meat. At least it might be considered natural for a human to consume other animals; under no circumstance or scientific evidence is it proved natural and/or good for adult humans to consume any type of milk, esp. not the milk of another animal. Gross. Thanks for your time and info.

Name: kev
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Blackburn, Lancashire, UK
Time: 2000-04-04 08:52:18
Comments: Very interesting site! from a former lactose addict. Peace Kev :o)

Name: shane
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-03 21:03:29
Comments: Thank you for your helpful comments, I had gotten confused. I appreciate the post. And I purposefully always leave bogus email addresses simply for my own safety and to protect myself from spamming.

My opionion, of course, but anything less then being honest and forthright is not a good plan. Subterfuge does nothing to foster good will or trust.

As to SPAM... there may well be upwards of six billion versions of what that term means. Regardless, there are only TWO ways to eliminate unwanted Email... abandon the Internet or watch it disintegrate from lack of ethics, honesty and stifling regulation those traits will generate.



Name: shane carter
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-04-03 14:40:58
Comments: i just had one question... somewhere in the mass huge thing (:)) u said that americans have alot of dairy in their diet, and then u say that milk consumption is down. does this mean that we aren't seeking milk as our major source of dairy anymore? or perhaps, in the midst of the giganticness of this site, did i misunderstand?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Shane,

The good news is that milk consumption is down. Despite those silly milk pustache ads, Americans are drinking less milk.

The bad news is that cheese, ice cream, and pizza consumption is increasing. It takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese, and twelve pounds of milk to make one pound of ice cream. We eat increased amounts of dairy products containing concentrated hormones, pus, casein, fat, cholesterol, pesticides, antibiotics, and Dioxins. (and more!)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Mr. Cohen said that, statistically, cow's milk and dairy consist of over 39% of the American diet. That plays a VERY significant role in over half of Americans being OBESE (along with having any of a wide range of milk-related illnesses). The USDA "food pyramid" shows that milk and dairy should be around 8% of the diet... assuming that cow's milk and dairy had any redeeming nutritional features... which it does not.

The USDA food pyramid should look like http://www.notmilk.com/graphics/usdamid.gif

However, Americans continue to consume FAR too much cow's milk and dairy (well over the suggested amount)

Here are the stats for a recent year:

586 pounds of milk and dairy products
394 pounds of vegetables
199 pounds of meat
193 pounds of products containing
flour and cereal
121 pounds of fresh fruit?

so the REAL pyramid looks like: http://www.notmilk.com/graphics/pyrmnew.jpg

Milk CONSUMPTION by Americans has been falling... meaning that the US Government, by virtue of subsidies and price supports, must purchase excess unwanted dairy production, store it, make arrangements to give it away, and throw away what cannot be otherwise disposed of. All, at taxpayer expense.

On http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirt22.html#87 there is this note by Mr. Cohen:

"Many thousands of dairy farms will cease to exist in 2000 because there is an enormous surplus of milk. Surplus milk means lower prices. Lower prices spell disaster for dairy producers.

Last year, dairymen were getting over $17 for every hundred pounds of milk they produced. Did they really need more milk? Use of Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone increases a cow's milk by up to 25%.

The most recent price farmers received for 100 pounds of milk was under $10, and that spells bankruptcy."

For less than subsidy price for milk prices the government (the taxpayer) mus t(by dairy-tweaked laws) pay the difference. (see http://www.notmilk.com/hs/nixon.html for the tip of THAT "milk berg")

Robert Cohen asks: "Does a nearly $5 billion SUBSIDY to the dairy farmers of America sound "udderly" ridiculous to you?"

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster
(Typical... the above "fleeb@yahoo.com" is a yet another bogus Email address!)


Name: Ryan Fraley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Bloomington Illinois
Time: 2000-04-02 19:45:33
Comments: I have located the cause of my Asperger's Syndrome thanks to you. I still don't get what is so bad about meat, though. You could be a little less emotional about your point since beliefs must be gradually eroded when they are so deep set in people. I don't know about cutting meat out of my diet, since the hunter-gatherers lived long on scavenged meats and pillaged fruits. Also you forget to mention that people are fat from a carbohydrate overdose. Look at the Egyptians as an example of carb overdose, they were a society that had to battle with obesity and heart disease. The eskimos had as high a protein diet as anyone; this is significant because you cite them as an example of why you do not need meat. I think you might have missed the boat on one thing - weight training. That takes protein and makes it work for you. I am cutting milk and dairy out of the diet, but I will just take vitamins and work out to live long, since that is a proven immune booster. Six million ways to die - choose one. I hope to live long, but when God calls me, *it's time.*

Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-03-31 22:54:08
Comments: Gee, Russ....... Doesn't the Dairy industry want you to believe them so you'll buy all their crap (ie: milk)? (Speaking of stupid.... check your spelling and grammar.)

Name: Dr. Gerard Loranger,N.D.
Website:
Referred by: Signing another Guestbook
From: Huntingdon,Quebec, Canada
Time: 2000-03-31 00:13:26
Comments: Congratulation for your work. Peace, Lova and Light Gerard Loranger

Thank you, Doctor... your comment is much appreciated.

Dave Rietz, Webmaster


Name: Russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-03-29 21:50:12
Comments: This sight is stupid. All theese people are trying to do is make you beaiive some of this stuf so that you will buy the book that they wrote and read the rest of there crap

Sigh! Yet another "expert" from the pro-dairy camp. Typical lack of honor (not accountable: No valid Email address, no last name, no means to respond... just another "hit and run" gutless wonder).

NOTMILK simply presents the facts.... the WHOLE truth. The book is only 317 pages... this web site has over 400 pages... and everything is free, including the 300+ references to support what you choose NOT to read.

The only thing "stupid" consist of visitors who have preconceived ideas about cow's milk and dairy.. who chose NOT to read and comprehend what is presented.

COW'S MILK=SICKNESS=PREMATURE DEATH ... ALL of the crap falls within your domain.

You have chosen to ignore the truth... which, when all is said and done, proves that the eons-old dictum of "survival of the fittest" is still operational. Perhaps this is meant to be the long-term salvation of our Social Security system... by "thinning out the herd".

Both Mr. Cohen and I were once great dairy lovers. Armed with all the facts we both decided that cow's milk and dairy was NOT a "taste to die for".

Dave Rietz, Webmaster


Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-03-26 06:54:45
Comments: Jennifer needs some educating. Perfect food? Yeah, for Calfs. If it IS so perfect, why do they modify it so much? And that essential amino acid bulldust..... what decade is she quoting from?

Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England/Living in Florida
Time: 2000-03-26 00:17:08
Comments: Boby Stagenatesn wrote: Comments: <>

What's insane about trying to live your life without causing the suffering and death of others?

"God put animals on the earth for us to eat and use as necessary."

Genesis 1:29-30 -- And God said, 'Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.

" Milk is an excellent source of calcium and milk has been drunk for many many years"

So is greens, tofu processed with calcium sulfate, blackstrap molasses and tahini are excellent sources of calcium. Also, tofu contains more than four times the calcium of cow's milk.

All because milk has been drank for many years that doesn't make acceptable. Rape, murder, child abuse and incest has also gone on for many years..........is that okay too?

"Personally I drink as much milk a day as I can to make me healthier."

Recommended reading: Physician's Guide to Prevention and Treatment of Osteoporosis. All you need to know about osteoporosis!

" I also deer, duck, squirrel, rabbit, and goose hunt. I also shoot birds with a shotgun just for the hell of it. "

But you don't have to kill to enjoy the joys of life.

"I think you need to quit bitching about animal rights because all the rights they have is to be on my dinner table. "

Animals do have rights! They have the right to free from exploitation, cruelty neglect and abuse. Is this too much to ask for any living being?

Susan Roghair, President Animal Rights Online


Name: The Guy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-03-25 23:34:59
Comments: I was just wondering, just exactly how many mental problems you people have. Milk is healthy, meat is good, I like to eat beef and have a nice tall glass of milk while I laugh about how stupid you are. And what about that hole "Got Beer" thing, what don't drink refreshing healthy milk, insted become an alcoholic, kill your brain cells and while you're at it kill some of your peers in a drunk driving accident. Yeah you were thinkin on that one.

We don't promote beer (or any alcohol) consumption on the part of anyone. We DO say that in almost all respects... BEER is superior to cow's milk with respect to health.

Had you bothered to read anything on the NOTMILK and Hungerstrike web sites... that would have become VERY clear. Not because WE say so... but because more and more in the MEDICAL establishment are saying so.

Let me zero in on only ONE item... a powerful growth hormone called IGF-1. Our bodies make a tiny amount for cell maintenance. This hormone is present in EVERY sip of milk and byte of dairy.

FDA regulators concluded that genetically engineered milk was safe to drink because hormones in milk could not survive human digestion. The publication of a new peer-reviewed scientific journal article will have people responding to the 'GOT MILK' question by asking: "GOT CANCER?"

TIMELINE

1979 Twenty years ago, scientists discovered IGF-I.

1989 Ten years ago, scientists learned that IGF-I was an identical match in the cow's body and the human body.

1994 Five years ago, FDA encountered the biggest controversy in their history by approving the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone known as BGH (aka BST). When that hormone is injected into cows, levels of IGF-I in milk increase by about 80%.

1998 Last year, IGF-I was called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of prostate cancer (Science - January, 1998) and breast cancer (The Lancet - May, 1998).

1999 This year, IGF-I was identified as the key factor in the growth of lung cancer (Journal of the National Cancer Institute - January, 1999).

Recently, the Journal of the American Dietetic Association (Page 1231) said this about IGF-I levels in people who drink milk:

"Serum IGF-I levels (blood levels) increased significantly in the milk group . . . an increase of about 10% above baseline--but was unchanged in the control group."

This blockbuster scientific finding contradicts every major conclusion made by FDA scientists, and sends a chilling warning to ice cream eaters. GO MILK? GOT POWERFUL HORMONES!

********** That is only ONE of the 59 hormones in milk

Both Mr. Cohen and myself were once upon a time great lovers of milk and dairy. However, after learning the WHOLE truth... we decided that it was NOT a taste to die for. Perhaps, if you have an open mind ... you will (ultimately) decide the same for yourself.

Of the over 40,000 mammals on this planet... ALL of them wean their young from this "emergency nutritional starter-pack" of nutrients, species-specific lactoferrins, immunoglobulins and more. After each and every one of them is WEANED, including human babies from THEIR perfect FIRST FOOD (human breast milk) not a one of them returns to their mother for MORE. Yet... humans have decided that nursing from cow's is... OK.

We are what we eat. Over half of Americans are obese (with the numbers still rising) and many are sick and getting more sick. Three glasses of milk a day contain the equivalent cholesterol of NINETEEN slices of bacon. Know any doctors who recommend that much bacon per day?

That, Mr. "The Guy", is only the tip of the "MILKberg". The colossal dairy myth that sinks many lives with heart disease, cancer, allergies, diseases, and more.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster



Name: The guy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-03-25 23:24:12
Comments: I like to eat beef, and I drink milk daily!

Name: John Méndez
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 2000-03-25 14:44:57
Comments: Good job!

Name: Kathleen Bentley
Website:
Referred by: SimpleNet
From: Oxford Mich. USA
Time: 2000-03-24 17:18:17
Comments: I would like to have all up dates on this dairy product stuff and any other warnings on anything else we should be aware of.

Name: Lisa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 2000-03-24 10:32:31
Comments: Was just reviewing the last few entries and wanted to let you know how much it infuriates me that people can be so ignorant. I love reading your responses, keep it up pretty please.

Name: Kevin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: us
Time: 2000-03-24 09:09:01
Comments: Ya you people are a bunch of crackheads!Wake the hell up.Your whole campaign is stupid and incorrect.Oh ya get a life.

Name: Boby Stagenatesn
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: out in the boonies
Time: 2000-03-23 15:21:18
Comments: I think all animal rights people are insane. God put animals on the earth for us to eat and use as necessary. Milk is an excellent source of calcium and milk has been drunk for many many years. Personally I drink as much milk a day as I can to make me healthier. I also deer, duck, squirrel, rabbit, and goose hunt. I also shoot birds with a shotgun just for the hell of it. I think you need to quit bitching about animal rights because all the rights they have is to be on my dinner table.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dr. Freud,

Thank you for your assessment of the sanity of animal rights advocates. Your opinion is highly valued here.

Any man who boasts that he shoots birds "just for the hell of it" should be recognized for the model citizen that he is.

You reference God's will, and I hope that you can influence biblical scholars, so that they re-write Genesis 1:29 which states:

I give you every seed bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food.

God must have been off shooting pigeons, and torturing animals when that verse was written.

Thank goodness for Genesis 51:7 which reads:

I give you shotguns and NRA cards, so that you may shoot pigeons for sport.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



Name: melissa
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NJ
Time: 2000-03-21 19:59:44
Comments: when will your new book be in stores? looking foward to it.

Name: Boogaloo
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany
Time: 2000-03-21 15:15:52
Comments: I really don't know what to say. I don't drink milk, but I still like yogurt, cheese, and chocolate. Where else should I get my essential B-vitamins, as I don't eat meat?

Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England/Living in Tampa Florida
Time: 2000-03-20 22:39:59
Comments: Jennifer wrote: "One farmer feeds 127 people a year with his products, without us farming families, most of you would starve to death"

90% of the agricultural land in this country is used either directly or indirectly to feed livestock. We actually produce enough food to feed 250 million people. There are over 500 million severely undernourished people in the world, 50 thousand die every day of starvation. It has been estimated in my country that a vegan Britain could be self-sufficient in food on about 25% of the land currently being farmed.

"Also remember that the agriculture industry is what gives 50 % of you jobs to go to every morning."

The move towards vegetarianism/veganism is a gradual process. As less and less people are employed in the animal-based industries so more and more will find work in the industries that replace them. Some people may well lose their jobs and every effort must be made to find them new employment. But let us not forget that the animals upon whom their jobs are based are losing their lives.

Susan Roghair Animal Rights Online


Name: Sandra Bullock at All About Herbs
Website:
Referred by: Lycos
From: Hillsboro Ohio
Time: 2000-03-20 22:43:13
Comments: HI Mr.& Mrs Cohen you are both doing a great job keep it up if you want to put a link to my web site you may my Son Troy is my webmaster he e-mail is webmasteratheresheis.com again I say you are doing a great job thank's for the info Mr Cohen the .cc info is still open like notmilk.cc I am getting about 100 to 200 hits a day on this site and we are on yahoo to thanks again for all the wounderful news and hard work you both have done keep up the good work your friend Sandra Bullock at All About Herbs you would not believe what they are doing to the chickens my son Adam is in Chicago in Collage for computors and the sites he has found on chicken are really bad and how they kill the cows for meat this will be on my website soon I really want the news out their the public does not really know what is going on thanks again hope to see you both soon my Friend

Name: Jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: TEXAS
Time: 2000-03-20 20:43:48
Comments: You people are full of crap. These claims are outrageous and just another example of twisting facts to make others come your way. Do you not realize that the exact hormones you are claiming that we get from cattle milk and is causing our society to downfall is produced naturally in our bodies anyway. They are very healthy and when these levels are out of balance severe problems occur. It is also claimed on your website that it is actually causing Calcium to be leeched from the body, it order for this to occur you would have to consume over 1,000 gallons of milk A DAY. What the average consumer drinks in a day will not cause calcium deficiencies in a body. Milk is the perfect food because it is the only food that contains all the essential amino acids that a person needs, no other food can claim that. If all you vegetarian people would stop and think about the effect your words has on the agriculture industry as a whole. One farmer feeds 127 people a year with his products, without us farming families, most of you would starve to death. Also remember that the agriculture industry is what gives 50 % of you jobs to go to every morning.

Name: Ben S.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New England
Time: 2000-03-20 14:11:42
Comments: hello,

having been vegan for 8 years, i did not think i needed to know about milk is poison... however, a young friend, whose parents are trying to force to drink milk, asked for help, and i did some research, having remembered meeting mr cohen for a moment at the boston vegetarian festival reading through the book and web site really hit home just how bad milk is. i did not realize it but my former hay fever allergies (have not had them for 8 years) were quite possibly caused by milk / casein

now that i know just how bad milk seems to be, i really want to tell people because it seems to be a very serious issue, threatening people's health and lives...

i did not know that milk was the possible cause of Flo Jo's Death, but it seems apparent from the information that mr cohen provides on this web site that milk is probably the cause of her death

one criticism i have of mr cohen, however, is that he tends to be a bit too emotional in presenting this scientific evidence... most people can figure out for their selves without being yelled at or had their emotions played with...

maybe mr cohen is so emotional because he cares, which is a good thing, but it tends to wear on people, i think... also some conclusions he makes are probably correct, but he is either leaving out some minor pertinent information or does not have all the facts... i have a background in science and say this not to hurt mr cohen but to hope that he sharpens his communication and scientific writing skills to more effectively communicate his important message to the world

keep up the good work and thank you for your effort to help others

ben


Name: Russ Harmeyer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ft wayne in
Time: 2000-03-20 12:08:05
Comments: I think this sight is stupid and you have no idea what you are talking about. I am a dairy farmer and a bulk milk hauler and can tell you that none of this is true.I would wright a big page on telling you the truth about the dairy industry but you people are so stupid and brain dead it probably wouldn't do any good.If any one has any questions feel free to e mail me and ill tell you the truth .

Name: Danika Nieves
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NJ
Time: 2000-03-19 12:05:12
Comments: Hey, I totally agree with your views. Notice how all those "Got Milk" ads are sponsered by the Dairy Farmers of America! Hmmm, what can they get out of people buying milk??

Name: tim Jupp
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: all
Time: 2000-03-19 02:34:52
Comments: Ran across your book at the local public library, and must admit the title was what struck me. and the library worker as i checked out. some shock. Just amazing to me what I take on faith as a consumer. the unfriendlies lurk behind such a comfortable facade. thanks for mention of this site on the leaf. Ill be contacting my grocer too. Hey the Tillamook creamery has tours what a place to learn more.

Name: Craig
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 2000-03-19 00:35:05
Comments: The one thing I hear while reading the pro dairy comments is that your pro-dairy attitude equals an anti-truth attitude as well. It makes me wonder if these people are dairy workers in disguise trying to hold on to their government subsidies by prepetuating the myth that eating any animal product is healthy. I dare any of you people to present any non-dairy funded peer reviewed scientific evidence that in any way proves a single health benefit from consuming cows milk or milk from any other species on Earth. You'll find only one, that's human breast milk and that's only for infants.

Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England/Living in Florida
Time: 2000-03-18 21:41:07
Comments: M. Gearhart wrote: Sincerely concerned consumer who knows the GOODNESS OF MILK! Dear M. Gearhart, Human beings are the *only* animals on earth who drink the milk of another species. This is not an ancient practice either, we thrived for hundreds of thousands of years without it and in fact it has been estimated that two thirds of the world's population cannot even digest it. Whether you choose to describe our use of animal milk as GOODNESS is irrelevant. The point is that we do not need it and we therefore cannot justify the suffering and death we cause in obtaining it. Susan Roghair Animal Rights Online

Name: catnip the mooch
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: canada
Time: 2000-03-18 17:28:01
Comments: Hey, that's not my real name as you might be able to tell. It's not even my real e-mail address it's my friends. I'm 14 years of age and I just wanted to say that I'm not vegan I'm vegiterian. This not because of ecological reasons it's because I always thought that the taste of meat was rather nasty and when I acually think about what I'm eating I'm quite disterbed. hmmm is that spelt correctly? Anyway as well as the usual non meat diet I don't eat eggs, fowl or fish 'cause they all taste gross. I also can't really eat that much dairy because I'm lactose intolerant. Dang gotta go do laundry but I love your site. sincerly, Catnip T. Mooch

Name: M. Gearhart
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 2000-03-18 11:38:24
Comments: I say AMEN to everything Karen Smith said. Also if your so sure you've got the truth, maybe your the one who need to do more research and OPEN YOUR EYES! I seems to me you have closed your ears and eyes to everything milk has to offer. You have picked upon anything negative you could find about milk and the way its produced and blown it into a huge LIE. You heard me, LIE! Do you have anywhere the education and knowledge of the product that Karen does? Probably not! I'm am truely glad she had the gumption to speak up to jerks like you who pick on innocent people, their occupations and their animals. Sincerely concerned consumer who knows the GOODNESS OF MILK!


     Sigh... yet another detractor who refuses to be identified. But then... this is a trait shared by those who have no proof of their own.

     Cow's MILK has NO redeeming characteristics... and the abundant information on notmilk and hungerstrike most adequately proves this as fact... beyond a doubt (very often with references). Even the GOT MILK "moustaches" are fake, which, most appropriately, matches the dairy industry data on thier products.

     The only "goodness" to cow's milk is "goodness, I've got anther health problem" or, for those who treat those problems "goodness, another boost to the bottom line!"

     I suspect that you think of the folks who blew the whistle on tobacco as "jerks", too.

     Both Mr. Cohen and myself learned the WHOLE truth... and decided that cow's milk and dairy was NOT a taste to die for. You have a right to your opinion ... and if you don't mind the problems that stem from its use (a la tobacco)... by all means, use it!.

     However, we are convinced that, like aspartame and MSG... the public has a RIGHT to know the WHOLE truth... (which is a major reason for our support for truth in labeling), such that they can make up their own minds.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster.


Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-03-17 12:39:01
Comments: Robert, Have you read "There's Nothing In The Middle Of The Road But Dead Yellow Stripes And Dead Armadillos", By Jim Hightower? This book covers all the atrocities that are happening in our society, with lots of wit & humor. Everything from coorporate corruption, to chemicals,breast cancer, GE food, CJD, etc...almost finished with it. Very colorful Texan language sprinkled in. I get the feeling you might know him? A reading list, or the book of the month review would be a great thing to see on your site. Take care. PS. Jim has a web site, that i will visit today. www.jimhightower.com

Name: PJ
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Omaha, NE
Time: 2000-03-16 22:55:27
Comments: Thanks for the great site! Eye-opening and shocking. I'm absolutely furious at the misinformation I've been fed my entire life! I've been buying 4-5 gallons of milk each week for my family of five. No more!! Again, many many thanks for the site!!! I'll be sure to pass the word.

Name: sarah reynolds
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ann Arbor, MI
Time: 2000-03-16 18:20:10
Comments: Super webiste. I am a dietetics student and I have noticed that many dietitians use a lot of "educational materials" provided by the dairy industry. It annoys me that so many of the people who will soon be my colleagues cannot tell the difference between ADVERTISEMENTS and "educational materials" (not to mention the fact that these materials have little or no citations of scientific journals). The rage with which people react to the truth about dairy is also frusterating. The dairy industry has brainwashed many people. Viva la Resistance!

Name: Brian Barker
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Louisiana, USA
Time: 2000-03-16 12:56:50
Comments: I just want to say I love your page! Two months ago I became a vegan and not only has my grocery bill been lowered, so has my pants size! Cutting out all meat and dairy has helped lower my blood pressure to that of an olympic athlete, helped me shave off a few extra pounds (35 to be exact), and I feel better now that I have in all my life. Before I became a vegan, I constantly suffered from chronic fatigue syndrome, severe acne and other problems. Now after cutting out all that crap my acne is gone, I have more energy than I know what to do with and I can even jog now without running out of breath after 5 seconds. I want to thank you for the info on your site! I plan to use some of it to convince my family to stay away from dairy. If anyone is interested in the diet that I'm on, you can read all about it at www.hacres.com. It's AWSOME!

Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England/Living in Tampa Florida
Time: 2000-03-16 06:53:54
Comments:
dinkydog@dreamscape.com wrote: << Maybe your and your researchers can tell me why we have canine teeth and our eyes are in the front of our heads like most all predators have? >>

Dear Dinky,

Some animals have bodies that are specifically designed for meat-eating. Evidence indicates that humans are not one of those animals. One theory suggests that we were originally herbivores (vegetarians), but were forced to start eating meat when the Ice Age made plant food scarce.

Today, our reasons for eating meat are primarily psychological. First, meat-eating is simply a habit; it is readily accessible, familiar, and socially acceptable. We consume meat without even thinking. Second, meat is historically associated with affluence; it is more expensive than plant food and was once even reserved for nobility. This mindset persists, not only in this country but across the world. Finally, we are constantly bombarded with propaganda from a meat industry (with a multi-million dollar advertising budget) that implores us to believe that eating meat is "good," "smart," and "healthy." How about the beef industry's slogan, "Beef. Real Food For Real People." Are they implying that I'm less than a real person if I don't eat beef? It sure sounds like it. This type of programming works exceedingly well.

Many who have studied the subject conclude that humans are plant eaters by both physical and chemical design. Here are some reasons why:

CLAWS: The sharp claws of flesh-eaters help them tear flesh. Humans do not have claws.

TEETH: Our teeth are designed for grinding food, not tearing flesh. Flesh-eaters have long, pointed teeth. Adult humans have 20 pre-molars and molars, ideal for grinding grains, versus only four canines, which are pointed. We can only chew flesh that has been ground up or cooked. One theory suggests that the pointed canines of vegetarians are not for food consumption at all, but rather solely for a show of defense.

CHEWING: Flesh-eaters chew in an up and down motion, swallowing large chunks of food. Humans and other herbivores chew in a slightly circular motion, which grinds the food.

SALIVA: Flesh-eaters have acidic saliva, while humans have alkaline salvia. Unlike flesh-eaters, human saliva contains digestive enzymes that start digesting grains while they're still in the mouth.

STOMACH: The stomachs of flesh-eaters contain 10 times the amount of hydrochloric acid as the stomachs of humans and other natural herbivores.

INTESTINES: Unlike humans, flesh-eaters have intestines that are straight and short, allowing flesh to pass through without putrefying. Humans have long, convoluted intestines, designed to digest foods through a process of fermentation. Flesh introduced into human intestines putrefies, releasing toxins, before it passes all the way through.

METABOLISM: Flesh-eaters are designed to eat high-cholesterol, high-fat, low-fiber diets without harm. This type of diet is harmful to humans.

Many other differences between humans and natural carnivores also exist. Two of them are the ways in which we ingest water and the ways in which we cool ourselves. Flesh-eaters drink through lapping and cool themselves through panting. Vegetarians (including humans) drink through sucking and sweat to lower their body temperatures.

After studying data on diet and its effects from 6,500 Chinese subjects, a nutritional biochemist from Cornell University, Dr. T. Colin Campbell, concluded: "We're basically a vegetarian species and should be eating a wide variety of plant foods and minimizing our intake of animal foods".

Susan Roghair Animal Rights Online



Name: MOONKITTY
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Wisconsin
Time: 2000-03-15 14:35:47
Comments: if you have a mailing list, please include me :)

Those who would like to receive the FREE Dairy Education Board
Newsletter can subscribe by sending an EMPTY Email to:

notmilk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

(Click the above link to do just that :-)

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Pieter
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Netherlands
Time: 2000-03-15 11:11:32
Comments: A week ago, I read that a child should drink 4 glasses of milk. I'm 13 years old and I started to drink 4 glasses a day on Monday (I was 1 week free from school), I even drank 6 large glasses a day, and I thought I was doing the right. I normally always drink Coca Cola. So I drank and I drank, I could see that I was less aggressive as if I were when I only drank Cola. 6 Days (Saterday) I got sick, I had a temp. of 38.8 Celsius (that's when you're sick in Celsius). On Monday, I started going to school again, but I still didn't really felt good. Tuesday, I had horrible pain in my left ear, like it was pushing my earthing-where-you-hear-with (don't know how to call it in English) away. Next day it was going better but now my right ear had the same!! Now Tuesday the same day I write this, and maybe this has something to do with the milk I drank. I drank like 30 glasses in 5 days, 3 glasses is one bottle, so 10 bottles of milk!! My body responded badly... Regards, Pieter

Perhaps the word you are looking for is "tinnitus"? This is a noise or ringing
in one or both ears.

What you exprienced from your overload of fats, cholesterol, histamine and other
allergens, hormones and more... was just the tip of the iceberg.

Read on... and you should make even more interesting discoveries.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: James Kendrick
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Earth
Time: 2000-03-14 21:31:27
Comments: I enjoyed reading your page it has quite a bit of information in it. I have a few questions though. Maybe your and your researchers can tell me why we have canine teeth and our eyes are in the front of our heads like most all predators have? And why are all vegans(including yourself) that I have met are pale, sickly and are always pulling muscles when they do something physical? I like milk, meat, vegatables and most other foods. I'm waiting to get fat yet, but my weight remains ideal and my cholesteral has been 130 or lower. So eat that! Or ruminate it, or whatever. Oh yeah one last thought. Why do so many varmits have to die to save our vegatables?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear James,

I have canine teeth, and cry alligator tears, and have walked pigeon-toed, and my critics have called me a pit-bull. Still, there is no way that my teeth look anything like a mouthful of dog's teeth that were designed to rip raw flesh from another creature. Dog's teeth are sharp and pointy, and most of mine are flat...just perfect for crushing seeds or grain.

Why are VEGANS pale and sickly looking? HAHAHA. I recently testified at the USDA dietary guideline conference, and invite you to the next one. The spokesperson from the sugar foundation looked like Humpty Dumpty, and those who represent milk and dairy products step to the podium with inner-tubes under their clothes.

On the other hand, you should see the spokesperson from PCRM, Neal Barnard. You should see the spokeswoman from PETA. You would die to have their bodies. Keep eating animal flesh and drinking their body fluids, and you will die from not having a VEGAN'S physique.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



Name: Mark L
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Arizona
Time: 2000-03-14 19:34:29
Comments: The author of the NotMilk web site has absolutely no understanding of the scientific process. It would be interesting to see if in fact milk had damaging side effects on human physiology, but none of the "evidence" presented on that web site can properly be interpreted as such. Shame on you for jumpingto conclusions.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mark,

There are thousands of references from peer-reivewed scientific journals on the NOTMILK site. Your inability to see those references reflects your myopic interpretation of the real science. Compare my evidence to the dairy industry milk mustache ads, and you will conclude that one side of this debate uses fraud and deception as their tool.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN



Name: Karen Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MIchigan
Time: 2000-03-14 11:57:20
Comments: Dear PETA people, Your information on the dairy industry is ...BULLS**T! I am a fourth generation dairy farmer in Michigan and a dairy science student as well. I would like to clear up a couple of points that you make about milk and cattle. First of all, "are frequently contaminated with pesticides and drugs;" no they are not. How can milk have pesticides in it?? Cows don't eat pesticides. Now if you want to see stuff with pesticides on it try looking at the fruit and veggies that you eat. Drugs..no there are no drugs in milk. If a shipment of milk has any drug or antibiotic residue in it it is automactically dumped. Osteoporosis is caused in women by the lack of natural horomones that occur in the body during and after menopause. As for bone breaks I have never had one bone break and I have played and still play sports. I drink about a gallon of milk a day give or take a pint here and there. If beer is so healthy and good how come you have to be 21 to drink it, beer has no fat...but it has a tendancy to make people fat when consuming large amounts. Beer has no cholesterol but it causes liver disease. " Today's dairy cow is treated like nothing more than a milk machine—chained by her neck in a concrete stall for months," The chains on their neck are for identification and used instead of head gates to keep the cow still while milking. Once the cow is done milking she is released and sent out to eat and get a drink or lay down if she wants. As for the part abouts months...WRONG! " her udders genetically modified to produce so much extra milk that they sometimes drag on the feces- and covered cement." The genetics we used are from artifical inseminating of the animal because it is dangerous to have a live bull on the farm." her male calves are traumatically taken away from her at 1 to 2 days old and chained inside cramped dark crates to be killed for veal. The milk that is meant for them ends up on our supermarket shelves." Whether the calves are male of female they are taken from their mothers...just like human children who are given up for adoption. Not all males are raised for veal most are raised up for beef! Veal are fed only milk so not all of the milk given is sold to the store they get fed the milk. Who cares if the calf is fed with a bottle or off the teat. Human mothers use bottles and replacment milk instead of their own breast milk, you don't piss and moan about that do you....i doubt it! "PETA’s College Action Campaign coordinator Morgan Leyh counsels, "Colleges have been busy banning kegs from campus. But we say, ‘Ditch the dairy, not the beer!’ " " Never in my life have i ever seen a riot started because student had been drinking milk and became drunk, but as a student at Michigan State University I can assure you that riots have been started by drunken students,stundent drunk on beer not milk. I hope that the next person that has a accident in which beer was involved will sue you for everything you have and more. You are just a bunch of ignorant misinformedpeoples who have to much time and money and not enough brains! Sincerely Karen Smith

"Peta people?" Your reading skills DO need much improvement! That is your first (of many) errors.

"I am a fourth generation dairy farmer in Michigan and a dairy science student as well."

Ummm. All THAT means is that you have been exposed to more of the dairy myth than most of us.

It is obvious that your "mind is made up", and that you made a conscious decision to exclude most all (of the over 400 WEB pages) of facts that prove our points. We present the facts... but you have proven that this cannot induce anyone to read or comprehend material that conflicts with their preconceived opinions.

"No antibiotics"? Two different resources (Consumer Union and the New York Times) tested different milk samples and BOTH showed residue of 52 different antibiotics.

Osteoporosis - http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html A LONG TERM study evolving 78,000 nurses flushes your calcium-from-milk theory down the tube.

The rest of your standard dairy industry disinformation is readily debunked on our WEB sites, and hundreds more.

The truth is posted on www.normilk.com and www.hungerstrike.com ... for all to read, WITH references. The information represents thousands of hours of work but is FREE for the reading. Anyone, including you, is most welcomed to all of it. What you do with knowledge is your decision. Keep on consuming milk and dairy... and as a surprise cancer victim I KNOW you will be keeping me company... sooner than you might deem possible. Cancer sux. It is life-altering, life shortening, and very expensive.

The above web sites, along with www.dorway.com on aspartame, and www.truthinlabeling.org on MSG exist to forewarn a clueless public who have been lied to (a la tobacco) for decades. We don't think that is either fair, or ethical, and these web sites exist for those seeking the truth.

We hope you will change your mind... and at least do your own homework rather that rely on tainted dairy-industry provided information

Mr. Cohen and myself (both once-upon-a-time dairy lovers) have both concluded that cow's milk and dairy is NOT a taste to die for...

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim


Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: England/Living in Tampa Florida
Time: 2000-03-13 22:18:15
Comments: Robert Cohen is a powerful and driven individual, uncompromising when and where animal suffering is occurring, devoted and full of empathy, employing sound facts and hard evidence to go up against barbaric callousness and rampant ignorance on the dairy industry. He is fighting the good fight, but more importantly he has reached hardened hearts and minds and seen change occur. And this is what is so crucial in this age...to inspire others to seek out their humanity...to lead them where they have never gone before....to find wrong where it lives....in our souls. Susan Roghair, President of Animal Rights Online

Name: dan demaria
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: new jersey
Time: 2000-03-13 20:52:28
Comments: interesting...

Name: emma-louise danielle jenifer smith
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: zugazaga island
Time: 2000-03-13 19:05:30
Comments: I am only a vegiterian but I really wan't to be a vegan. Unfortunatley I am enimic oh God I can't even spell. Any way this site rocks. oh my God I hate my name

Name: Sammie Jones
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 2000-03-13 18:04:14
Comments: This is all just a big fat load of crap. Excuse the language but I love milk and it helps prevent osteoporosis and a bunch of other bone diseases. If you agree with me, that this site is dumb, then would you please email me. You can go to my site later but it's under construction at the moment. Sorry. I have a message board though. It's at www.coolboard.com/gigglebox911. Peace, love, and milk!!

The only "crap" is what you and I were fed for most
of our lives. Milk and dairy (like monkey brains, poi
and a lot of other "stuff") is an acquired taste. Both
Mr. Cohen and I (his webmaster) were once-upon-a-time
heavy consumers of cow's milk and dairy products.

However, now that we know the WHOLE truth... we have
decided that this substance is NOT a taste to DIE for!

There is ample proof on both the NOTMILK and Hungerstrike
web sites. All we can do is present it... not make you
read and comprehend it. We submit that folks who value
their health and longevity... will at least read and
digest everything available and THEN make up their minds.

"Dumb", Sammie Jones, would be in NOT availing yourself of free
health related information.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: sammie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: s.c.
Time: 2000-03-13 16:54:32
Comments: Thank you! I wondered why my asthma was getting worse!

Name: Tutu
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: US
Time: 2000-03-13 12:52:37
Comments: Great site! Need more people like you.. For some more whistleblowers stories visit: http://whistleblowers.freehosting.net Cheers!

Name: noooga
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: israel
Time: 2000-03-13 10:50:36
Comments: WELL DONE !!!

Name: Rachel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
Time: 2000-03-13 05:35:21
Comments: FANTASTIC site!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love it!!!!!!!!!! I've only just started setting up my website - but I have already added links to yours - why don't you come and have a look? Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!

Name: Shirley
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Time: 2000-03-12 18:34:22
Comments: Excellent reading.There are so many hidden properties in our foods that I have always felt were instrumental in causing cancer, etc. It is not good to take things for granted just because we know no different. I am eager to learn all I can in hopes that my grandchildren can have a better chance of having a healthy, productive adulthood. learn, in hopes that my grandchildren can have a better chance of having a healthy, productive adulthood.

Name: Catherine
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Mobile Ala.
Time: 2000-03-12 11:50:24
Comments: Your web site is wonderful, I tell everyone about it. I never drank milk as a child or as an adult and of course everyone thought I was weird. Now it is good to know I have some support and facts to fall back on. I never buy milk anymore for my kids we put soy milk on cereal. I think in the years to come there will be more to find out about cow's milk and what it has done to so many people's bodies.

Name: Ashton
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Indiana
Time: 2000-03-10 17:45:35
Comments: This isnt really something to be teaching kids.Osteoperosis people!!!!!

Name: Kimmie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Michigan
Time: 2000-03-10 08:25:49
Comments: I've known forever, having asthma that milk (and dairy) contribute to ferocious attacks. I can't give up my Ben&Jerrys, but detest milk and only use 1% on cereal.

Ummm... ONE percent! This means that since they have reduced
the fat content from 3.25% to 1% they have also reduce the fats and
cholesterol (and the "stuff" they contain) but you get MORE of the
hormones!

Here is a chart calories and other goodies:

ONE HUNDRED GRAM PORTION (3 1/2 OUNCES)

                         CALORIES  CHOLESTEROL  GROWTH HORMONES
WHOLE MILK = 3.25% FAT      61       13.6 mg        yes
2%    MILK = 2.00% FAT      49        7.5 mg        yes
SKIM  MILK = 0.00% FAT      35        1.8 mg        yes
BEER       = 0.00% FAT      41        0.0 gh        no  (comparison only)
LIGHT BEER = 0.00% FAT      28        0.0 mg        no  (comparison only)
WATER      = 0.00% FAT       0        0.0 mg        no  <=== best choice!

OF note is that they typically use SKIM milk to fatten pigs
for market. Those powerful hormones DO work!

Ben and Jerry's???? OOPS!

Check out http://www.junkscience.com/nov99/bjpress.htm
for their dioxin-filled toxic treats.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Nan Taska
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Plymouth, Ma
Time: 2000-03-10 06:27:46
Comments: Mr Robert, in this election year, I am going to write your name in for my vote for President. FDA/Codex and all have not stopped you, as I know it would not. The American people need that one person to respond to the good of all, and you are IT. Like that, IT. IT runs around making the world a better place. The Monsanto world should call you IT. Hear that Monsanto!!!

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: earth citizen
Time: 2000-03-08 05:57:32
Comments: Robert, Alimentarus, is latin for food or something that nourishes. Took educated guess since in spanish Alimento is food. Alma is soul, something nourishing the soul. (figure in latin it's close.) So it's "soul food"? Just kidding. Can't help you on the Codex thing.

Plese read The Nation this week March 20 Title: THE SECRET HISTORY OF LEAD "Special Report, How General Motors, Standard Oil, & DuPont colluded to make & market gasoline containing lead-a deadly poison-although there were safe alternatives. Abetted by the US government, they surpressed scientific knowledge that lead kills. Still sold in countries all over the world,leaded gasoline continues to poison the planet."

This coincides w/recent article i read saying that the EPA has raised the allowable amount for lead in our childrens blood stream to over %600 per cent of what historically man has had. Interesting, seems our fed gov. has their hands in everything. GOOD LUCK IN JAPAN

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

The FDA Giveth (heartburn) and the FDA taketh away (herbal remedies for heartburn).

Monsatan has exerted enormous pressure on FDA, and my invitation to CODEX has been revoked. Who pays my non-refundable planefare, and room deposits? Moi.

Who ultimately pays for the FDA arrogance, lack of integrity, and fraud?

Sadly...the American people.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Joseph Austin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: North Easton, Massachusetts
Time: 2000-03-08 03:16:29
Comments: What an eye opener! Are their any rebuttals directed at your findings? I would be interested to see if anyone could discount your information. It never hurts to get an honest interpretation of both sides to a story. I'm not saying that I don't believe you, I would just like to see someone try to prove otherwise. You seem very thorough and I doubt anyone could prove otherwise. Thank you for doing the dirty work for everyone that just takes for granted that we are being properly taken care of by the Government. I always felt that the Government was inefficient but I really had no idea they were blatantly trying to kill us!!! Population control perhaps.... Who do they think they are ?!!!?

Mr. Cohen has a standing offer to debate in any fair forum.

No takers!

Perhaps one of the best things you can do is use a bit of
common sense. Then... do check out a recent dairy industry
funded study that backfired on them (both barrels!)

THE DAIRY INDUSTRY SELF-DESTRUCTS

Regards, Dave Rietz, WEBmaster.


Name: Melody McIntyre
Website:
Referred by: Geocities
From: Rockingham
Time: 2000-03-05 06:57:37
Comments: I have enjoyed visiting your website.

Name: Cindy
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: CT.
Time: 2000-03-05 06:54:53
Comments: Thank you for being there for me and my daughter we can not have to much dairy now we can in the way of soy goods.

Name: Kate
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 2000-03-05 01:12:50
Comments: I have been trying to tell my friends for quite some time that milk is harmful. They never listen...maybe if I send them this page, they will know! Great page!!!!

Name: Sara
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: O'Fallon IL
Time: 2000-03-04 23:30:16
Comments: Your website was a website of the day on TipWorld. Thank you so much for putting up this site! I have been trying to convince everyone I know that milk is poison. No other animals in the world drink milk after they have matured, why do we? Thank you for providing the evidence I need to support my own little anti-milk campaign.

Name: Elizabeth Farians
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Cincinnati
Time: 2000-03-04 20:20:53
Comments: thanks for the good work, especially for the animals remember the kiss in Cincinnati

Name: Angelique
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: North Carolina
Time: 2000-03-04 18:51:47
Comments: It is very interesting.

Name: Louis McIntosh
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Oklahoma
Time: 2000-03-04 18:42:40
Comments: Personally I hate milk myself, The only way I can stand it is Chocolate milk.

Name: Candice Blanco
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Utah
Time: 2000-03-04 09:36:51
Comments: About 4 years ago my sister told me that cows milk was not meant for humans. I laughed, of course it was. Everyone says it is.

A year ago I gave birth to my daughter and began to study the wonders of breast milk. That sparked my interest in milk. Were we as humans ment to have the milk of another animal?

For Christmas I got the book "Milk - The Deadly Poison" and am now a true beliver. What a great book. Anyone that takes the time to study this subject will truly see the light. My 13 month daughter will not, nor has she ever had cows milk (we are working on cutting out all dairy, its too bad that I like chez so much) I feel that the milk God is helping my body produce is perfect for my daughter.


Name: Martha Hughes
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Nashville, TN
Time: 2000-03-04 07:46:10
Comments: Got you from an e-mail ad!

Name: Todd Strickland
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Santa Monica, Ca
Time: 2000-03-04 04:25:49
Comments: great site, I will recommend it to friends as a site to check out. thanx.

Name: Joni
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Northern California
Time: 2000-03-04 02:35:29
Comments: Found you through Marie Oser information, she refers to your site for soy milk machine info. She can be found via vegsource.com. I've been a lacto-vege for 25 years, two months ago, along with the big 2000, I gave up dairy products and lost almost 30 pounds, I've never felt better, and my family is totally supportive so they've given up dairy too. Now all I need to do is get cracking on alternative recipies for old favorites like cottage cheese. By the way, Vegan Action has a great T-shirt (Black w/white print) "SoyMilk?"....in response to all those "got milk" advertisings.

Name: Cheri Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Chicagoland
Time: 2000-03-03 22:55:54
Comments: I went vegetarian in 1987 and have never felt better.

Name: jeanie
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: sarasota, florida
Time: 2000-03-02 10:26:15
Comments: My frequent headaches stopped when I gave up milk & dairy products.....Plus, I shed 20 lbs! WhooHoo!

Name: ECho
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Idaho
Time: 2000-03-01 22:30:26
Comments: I had no idea that milk was that bad I don't drink lots of it though I only drink 1%

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

A one-hundred gram portion (3 1/2 ounces) of 1% milk and whole milk have the same amount of protein, and differ in fat content by about only two grams.

Both the whole and 1% milk contain pus, hormones, and glue (casein). Let me know when the dairy industry removes those ingredients, and I'll give milk my seal of approval.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 2000-02-29 19:47:10
Comments: Please refer to www.cancerbusters.com for the story of Thomas Navarro a 4 year old boy whose parents want to give him alternative treatment for cancer. The FDA is blocking this treatment insisting that Thomas undergo chemo & radiation therapy. This is insane! The parents should have the right to give Thomas the non-toxic antineoplastons therapy without the toxic chemo & radiation barbaric therapies which only destroy the immune system. Please write or E-mail your congressman and two senators and President Clinton and put pressure on them to allow the freedom to have this alternative treatment allowed. Please also ask them to support the Access to Medical Treatment Act (S-l955) in the Senate and (HR-2635) in the House. This act will allow parents and anyone else to choose the medical treatment they want without the FDA dictating the treatment. The FDA should be purged of all the scoundrels that are there approving toxic drugs that cause deaths of thousands while disapproving non-toxic natural alternative therapies that have been proven to work. Other countries are way ahead of the United States in using natural therapies to treat cancer and other diseases. The big pharmaceutical companies in their greed will fight any natural remedies that threatens their bottom line. Read the book "World Without Cancer" for additional information on how the FDA banned laetrile or vitamin B-l7, a natural substance that attacks the cancer cell while actually nourishing the normal cells. Also support the Fresh Fields Super Markets which provide organic foods that don't contain growth hormones, antibiotics, pesticides that milk and other conventional foods contain. It's up to you folks! If you don't take some action to fight corruption in government, it can only get worse and the 550,000 people scheduled to die, (or should I say executed by the FDA) because they could not get alternative treatment, will continue to suffer from the agony of chemotherapy and radiation treatments and die a painful death. We don't even treat our death row inmates that way when they are executed. If anyone from the FDA reads this, don't forget God will judge you for what you have done to deceive the people and cause deaths unless you change your ways and begin to tell the truth. Release the information in the Richard, Odaglia & Deslex study and do something for your country!!! God have mercy on you if you refuse to change your ways or as the Bible says "repent". Stop the American holocaust now!

Name: Jennifer Guagliardo
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Mississippi
Time: 2000-02-27 12:13:19
Comments: Great page & great info.! Please put me on any mailing lists. Thanks! Jenn

Name: Susan Roghair
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tampa Florida
Time: 2000-02-27 09:08:08
Comments: I can say with sincerity that after hearing Robert Cohen speak at the Gainesville Vegetarian Conference last week I know of his commitment, his dedication and his desire to be a spokesperson for animals in society! Bravo Robert on such a superb and eduational book! Know that I am selecting it as my Book Pick of the Week very soon, advertising it to the Internets largest online Animal Rights list, Animal Rights Online! For all you do, I am veganly grateful! Susan Roghair - President Animal Rights Online P O Box 7053, Tampa, Fl 33673-7053 http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/1395/

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 2000-02-25 20:31:06
Comments: In addition to the book "World Without Cancer" by G. Edward Griffin everyone should read the book "Essiac - A Native Herbal Cancer Remedy" by Cynthia Olsen. You can also go to www.philsteinberg.com for more information on Essiac tea and other cancer fighting supplements. Thankfully this tea is available in the U.S. The FDA hasn't gotten their bloody hands on Essiac tea yet but give them time and they will probably try to ban that too unless the public stands up against them.

Name: Michael Exarhos
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Miami FL,
Time: 2000-02-25 20:11:05
Comments: Keep up the good work

Name: Jeaaica Lang-Jones
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Orlando,FL.
Time: 2000-02-25 03:43:33
Comments: Want to receive more information.

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Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-02-24 09:34:37
Comments: Why are mothers weaning their kids so early & then whining about the problems they have with formula?

Robert, a child needs human milk, way past the ONE year stage. La Leche League now recomends ONE year, World Health Organization now TWO. These are MINIMAL recomendations. (I think these will be increased with time) Healthy is the baby that nurses till one, lucky is the baby that nurses till two.

Actually, I have read human infants were meant to nurse till 4 or 5. Of course in our society this is taboo. In China, i am sure as in many other societies, it is common. I read an evolution book about the bones found of a primitive primate. It is very closely related to man, in same subfamily, now extinct, called Autralopithecus. They named her "LUCY". She breast fed her infants till 4 or 5 years old. This also helped to space her children apart. For mankind i have read that the natural spacing is about 7 years. Some American Indians, had 4 year bans on sexual relationships after the birth of the baby. Makes evolutionary sense. This would give the mother the 3-4 year time she would need to properly take care of the child. Since many were nomads you could not exactly be taking care of more than one baby at a time. A plus for their survival. Now from what I see of my neighbors they "unzip" one baby every year & a half. This biologically is too stressful on the mother & on rest of children. No wonder there are so many problems & natural child birth has gone out the window. Imagine spacing kids apart 4 or 5 years so they can wean without pressure? Some kids do decide to wean earlier, but then it is their desicion, not the mothers. Contrary to popular belief, nothing on earth can make a child nurse when he does not want to & his body tells him it is weaning time. Some are long term & some short, very individual. So the question is not so much, are you still breast feeding? But rather, is he/she still wanting to nurse? A big difference!! Mother nature has set up everything real nice, we just have to be smart enough to leave it alone.


Name: Mary Ann Starr
Website:
Referred by: Lycos
From: St Louis MO
Time: 2000-02-23 21:23:54
Comments: GREAT site! I got so much info from you. Thanks!!

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 2000-02-22 21:54:27
Comments: The criminal activity of the FDA is not only involved in milk hormones. I would recommend everybody read the book "World Without Cancer" by G. Edward Griffin. It tells the story of vitamin B-l7 or laetrile which is found in apricot seeds, apple seeds, etc. Remember Steve McQueen the actor? Back in l980 he had to go two Mexico to be treated for cancer with laetrile because the FDA would not allow its use in the USA. The newspapers reported that he died because laetrile did not work. According to this book, he actually died from a complication from an operation to remove a non-cancerous tumor in his abdomen that was causing a bulge. He wanted it removed for cosmetic reasons. As far as I am concerned the FDA is a criminal organization guilty of not only of deception and conspiracy but of murder because of the millions of people who have died because they could not be treated by a natural substance that has been proven successful other countries. Some of the so-called doctors in the conventional medical establishment are also guilty of murder because they deliberately suppress the truth of studies that have proven the success of laetrile. Mr. Cohen is one of the few heroes of our time who is willing to risk his life to expose the truth about bovine growth hormone.

Name: Matthew
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Hampshire
Time: 2000-02-22 03:23:11
Comments: I like Milk. I hate Milk. Whats the difference, can't we just all be friends?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Matthew,

I'm confused. You hate milk. You like milk. There seems to be two Matthews inside of you. Thank goodness AOL offers alternate aliases.

I am hopeful that during the next few years of therapy the two of you can be friends.

Good luck, Matt. Take care, Matthew.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: p. Scott Putnam
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Boise, Id.
Time: 2000-02-21 21:14:07
Comments: My daughter has been and athlete and is 20 ready to get married. She has two breast tumors. We have been a low meat household but heavy on dairy products. Having lost my dad to colon cancer and the establishment I am hopeful of changing the outcome for her.

Name: Ash Brady
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Liverpool, New York
Time: 2000-02-20 10:29:31
Comments: Hi guys! Its great that we are all trying to get together and fight for animal rights and Its very hard with peoples tactics and egotistical ways, but as long as we can stick together and fight together then we can at least help a little with getting our society or even nation to listen and so i think we are obligated to educate them! *ALL 4 VEGAN!*

NOTMILK is more "human rights" than anything. In particular,
the right to know what is on their dinner table, and if it is
not appropriate, why not.

Cow's milk and dairy has NO redeeming qualities as a human "food".

None!

The calcium aspect is perhaps the best example of the dairy
industry disinformation.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Dawn E Phillips
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Palm Beach Gardens, Florida
Time: 2000-02-19 19:19:55
Comments: I have read "Milk The Deadly Poison" and have met Mr. Cohen during one of his lectures in Rochester, New York. My family was already vegan before reading Mr. Cohen's book but his information further reinforced our views. I just came to the web site to check it out before suggesting it to a friend who needs information on kicking the milk habit.

Name: Geoff Brewer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Devizes Wiltshire UK
Time: 2000-02-19 04:14:41
Comments: Written to FDA Dockets about this Robert and raise it at every opportunity in the UK, trying to get the UK media interested. Thanks for the copy of your excellent book. Can you suggest anything we can do in the UK to support you? Blessings, - Geoff

Name: Lucy Z.
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Toronto
Time: 2000-02-17 06:51:40
Comments: I just want to ask about non dairy supplements for babies. She was breast fed for 8 months. She's now 1 year old and can't digest any milk products, nor soy or rice milk. Help?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lucy,

How many infants have osteoporosis?

How many teens have osteoporosis?

How many women under the age of 40 have osteoporosis?

You child has teeth. Congratulations. It is now time for her to eat solid food. She does not require body fluids from other animals to maintain good health. Nor does she need substitutes.

Teach her that there are 40 fruits and 40 vegetables in your supermarket. Give her the gift of fresh juices from those fruits.

The largest study in the history of woman-kind is ongoing at Harvard University. Scientists have learned that women who consume a lot of milk as teens grow up to have sinificantly higher rates of forearm and pelvic fractures than non-milk drinking females.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tammy Perrin
Website: vegan_rights
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Florida
Time: 2000-02-16 21:54:36
Comments: I have been a vegan for more than three years now, and this site is an excellent source for facts to share with friends.

Name: Kraeg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Down Under
Time: 2000-02-15 16:15:21
Comments: We all know what pill Juleah HAS swallowed. Actually, I should say PILLS.

Name: BOB CHUA
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: SINGAPORE
Time: 2000-02-15 13:44:28
Comments: My wife and son had just cleared up the fridge of all the milk and milk products after realising the fact!! We have been drinking milk all this while not knowing the destruction it causes.thanks to notmilk.com

Name: Dulcy Jenkins
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Alhambra, CA
Time: 2000-02-14 23:10:04
Comments: We should treat animals with respect, and quit using them for our voracious appetites!

Name: Rhonda Hatch
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Houston, Texas
Time: 2000-02-09 08:07:25
Comments: I would like to get your daily messages. My three year old son and I have been dairy free for almost a year. We eat only free range chicken and fish for meat, and all the veggies we can stand. My son drinks rice milk, I drink soy. I really enjoy your website. People have got to be told the truth about what the Government is feeding them.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Rhonda,

Please visit the hungerstrike.com website. I keep a daily diary which you might enjoy reading.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sarah Gross
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Shreveport, LA.
Time: 2000-02-09 04:37:47
Comments: great webpage! Everybody should be a vegan! Must stop the suffering! Let the animals be free and happy again!

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-02-09 02:32:08
Comments: Juleah, GET REAL, Robert publishes everyone's comments. Why don't you go back & read past entries & you will discover very many hostile pro milk points of view. You have not even taken the time to understand the IGF-I argument. Consider buying his new book. I just met a woman vet. the other day, we actually spoke the same language. She understood the word growth hormones, & their implications. A concept over your head.

Now for another joke. Here in Cincinnati Ohio, at a major intersection near my house, every day during the lunch hour four police officers direct traffic, in & out of the Wendies & Burger King. They stand in the main street, no matter the temperature, & stop the MAIN flow of traffic so the folks that want junk food & eat garbage can help themselves. They are usually drinking a soda(probably diet) with the name of the fast food establishment. All i can think of is, my tax dollars are going to pay for those FOUR police officers, (sometimes six on holidays), to facilitate the fast food agenda. I get furious. I do not see them lined up at the health food store, so i can exit easier. Maybe i should ask?


Name: Elizabeth
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minnesota
Time: 2000-02-09 01:53:35
Comments: I found your web site to be very interesting!! I have been a vegetarian for almost 7 years now and have been thinking of going vegan. The information on this web site was very helpful in my decision! I think it is great that there are web sites like this out there for people to finally know the truth about meat, and animal products.

Name: Daniel Jahn
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Brazil
Time: 2000-02-05 09:40:12
Comments: My name is Daniel and I'm a student of Nutrition (third year) from Brazil and your site is really a very interesting source of information on this subject. It was especially fun reading the Juleah's comment on your milk site because Juleah doesn't seem to have read anything and is just trying to prove her opinion or common sense on milk, well she has a Major in agriculture and that should explain her lack of Scientific and Chemistry knowledge as she reminds me of priests from the middle ages trying to hold the argument that earth was still and the sun was orbiting it.

Name: Juleah
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 2000-02-05 03:24:28
Comments: Hi. I was referred to your website by a friend who was completely outraged. After exploring your site for a while, I can see why. As a college student majoring in agriculture, I have had a decent amount of exposure to and experience in the dairy industry. I was, quite frankly, astonished at the information you provided on your website. And congratulations, by the way - if I had been an uninformed visitor, I would have believed every word you fed me. I consider myself lucky to be able to say that I didn't. And, I'd like to hope that other people would take the opportunity to learn more about the issue, OUTSIDE of your website, so they can at least make up their own minds. I still have the utmost confidence in the American Dairy Industry, I believe in their ability and intentions to supply the public with the highest quality goods for affordable prices. Milk provides you with numerous vitamins and minerals necessary for your daily life. It provides calcium - which is crucial to bone strength among other things. One of your guestbook entries mentioned that although they drank 1 1/2 gallons of milk a week their doctor still said they didn't get enough calcium. This could be simply because the person didn't exercise enough - in order for calcium to be absorbed by your body (whether it's in the form of milk or a supplement) you must be active. The USDA and FDA are two organizations that are doing their job in securing the safety of the American public. Any food out on the market has met their standards - standards that have been tested again and again to assure they are of the utmost quality. If someone is lactose intolerant they shouldn't drink milk - that is apparant in your research - but what about the plethora of people who are NOT intolerant? The benefits they are receiving far outweigh the risks. A risk that is unspoken in your website includes that of what the economy would be like WITHOUT the dairy industry. Agriculture is crucial to state and national economies - in most states it ranks withing the top 5 industries of the state.

I understand that this posting isn't exactly the "way to go, thanks for warning me" commentary you expected. It may make you angry that I didn't swallow the pill you fed me - in fact, I don't even expect this posting to be published. I noticed that most of the postings in your guestbook are positive and reassuring, and I know mine isn't in favor of your opinion. It would obviously be easier to simply delete my entry than to defend the questions I've raised - and I understand that. If you DO choose to publish this, I fully expect you to try to rip apart my points, like you have with anyone else who has tried to raise their voice against yours. And that is fine, because your website is not a democracy, and it isn't required to be. So, even if you are the only person to read this, I hope you understand that not everyone will simply take what you say as the complete and total truth. And, having that said, I will resign myself to the many other entries that were simply deleted when their content was found not to support your website's point of view. I'll resign myself to being one of the many other people who have tried, as you claim to, to show people the other side of the issue. I'll accept this for what it will probably be, a single voice that is so feared for what it represents it will simply be erased. Thank you for your time of even reading this, even it is simply to be deleted, at least it will be in good company. Sincerely, Juleah


Name: Kevin Dunn
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Vermont
Time: 2000-02-04 18:28:59
Comments: A great site with terrific information. Thanks for being here!!! Keep up the great work.

Name:
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Glencoe, MN
Time: 2000-02-04 03:10:57
Comments: I heard Robert Cohen as a guest speaker on a local radio program. The station is KSTP am 1500 Mpls/St.Paul. I was intrigued with all the information he gave in a way too short time. I've been health-oriented for some time and found this not milk info to tie in nicely with my beliefs and practises. Thank you so much for spreading the word!

Name: O'Hara Forrestal
Website: The Sterile Vegan
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Bellingham
Time: 2000-02-03 10:05:23
Comments: When I was in grade school my mother was doing research at the University of Wisconsin uncovering the truth about the detrimental effects of consuming dairy products, hearing all about it from my mother, I would try to explain to my friends about its ill effects on human health, and remember very specifically being laughed at and essentially ostracized for upholding that point of view. The chastizing I suffered from teachers and students alike was so severe that I eventually stopped talking about it. It didn't occur to me then what the cause of my fierce rejection was, but now understanding the power of the dairy industry and its influence in public schools, it has become increasingly important for me to express, to other parents whose children might be exposed to similar situations, why it is necessary to warn, and arm your children, lest they turn and reject that most vital piece of information in light of public sentiment and peer pressure. Thank you for being aware.

Name: C.E.R.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ohio
Time: 2000-02-02 06:29:08
Comments: If we all would step back for a minute and look at the big picture we are nothing but victims of money "greed" primarily with the asses in the "FDA". All our food is contaminated. I visited a web site www.dorway.com which I highly recommend people to visit. It talks on aspartame and monosodium glutamate. Unreal what the excitoxins/neurotoxins are doing to us, then that damn "FDA" has the nerve to say herbs are dangerous and vit. c causes cancer, no actually it will keep you from the visiting the pharmacy (money loss) and I can speak on that from a personal experiance. Imagine this combination a glass of milk with pus, a bag of chips with msg and a cup cake with aspartame= suicide. I think we as tax paying U.S. citizens should overthrow the "FDA" it may save our lives.......

Name: ZoeViva
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canterbury, England
Time: 2000-02-02 01:26:49
Comments: A couple of years ago there was an aluminium 'scare' about soya milk. It was mainly to do with baby soymilk, but I as an adult am just as concerned. Aluminium is used as a 'fining' agent to clear water when it is being cleaned before it comes through our taps. It can also be found in cooking raising agents, and I understand tea leaves contain high amounts. Now I am REALLY concerned because so much chemical gunk is going into all our food. In England, some counties (like mine, Kent) do not have sodium fluoride - a waste product of the aluminium industry - in their water;. the British government is considering forcing ALL water authorities to put fluoride in water. Now this water fluoride will be added to our soya milk aluminium, and the water used in soy milk production may itself be fluorided, in addition to the aluminium that the growing beans soak up from the soil when they are growing . . . you get my drift?! Is our only answer to make our own soya milk from bottled pure water? Give up soya milk altogether? Or is all this too too pernickety?? (Your notmilk website is BRILLIANT by the way.)

Name: CARMEN
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-02-01 18:40:00
Comments: THE BABY TEST The ultimate proof of our bodies inability to tolerate milk is to observe the new born. They do not lie & have no political agendas. When my baby was born, he had an infection that required hospitalization & antibitotics. He was fed formula, against my will. I wanted to give him the colostrum that i was pumping, but i was told by the nurses, (sit down for this one)....to "THROW IT AWAY since it was not Real Milk".(Frankfurt University Hospital, Germany).

My child looked bloated, red, puffy, & was gaining too much weight, plus he spit up constantly & smelled awful. Having so many antibiotics & formula was hard on his body. After the first week i demanded to start breast feeding. His color changed, he lost weight, stopped spitting up, & he smelled much better. They were supposed to feed him breast milk at night, which i left, but i know they fed him formula, since it was much faster & easier. The proof was in the pudding so to say.

Breast milk is almost all digested, whereas formula is not, plus the diapers stink alot worse. So i knew they fed him formula about 80% at night. Probably threw breast milk away.

My mom who bottle fed both of us, kept saying he did not have that baby smell! That "baby smell" was that of rotting formula. The only time a breast fed baby spits up is when the mother eats something the baby has a difficult time digesting. In my case it was chocolate, only then he would spit up. How many times do i see bottle fed babies spitting up half of their formula, that is considered normal! If a breast fed baby would do this the mother would worry that there was something wrong. So observe your baby since we have alot to learn from them.


Name: Melissa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Illinois
Time: 2000-01-30 07:08:46
Comments: I've been a vegetarian for about 4 1/2 years now. I gave up milk and dairy products three years ago, I just didn't have a taste for them anymore. I switched to soy milk instead. Now, having read your book (and looking forward to the next) I realize I made a very smart decision! I have loaned out my copy of Milk: The Deadly Poison countless times. Thank you for caring and for actually doing something about this nightmare situation!

Name: Russ
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ohio
Time: 2000-01-28 23:06:50
Comments: great ideas-if you have a mailing list, please put me on it. thanks Russ

You got it! :-)
Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: HORTON
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-01-28 04:04:41
Comments: Robert, Thank you for your honesty, and the clarification. Life is a long & we learn along the way. I was just really surprised, and then confused. Can you update part of the book, or make a revised printing? The problem is people without internet acess, might still hear the "old message", & after so much effort I think it would be a shame. Glad to see you are feeling better. Maybe make reference to this on your site somewhere so people who buy book for others, can relay new message.

The follow-on book is called "Elsiesfable", is about twice as
thick.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Ally
Website: Ally
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ohio
Time: 2000-01-28 02:29:25
Comments: Ok...let me get this straight. You don't want us to drink milk because its harmful to us, the enviroment, cows, etc.? Then why have we been doing it for centuries?

Ally at ally.com? That is real interesting considering that
your IP address 209.115.70.213 IS in Ohio... but it belongs
to American Febo Enterprises. There IS an ally.com but that
is way out in Las Vegas. A friend you are not, and honesty
does not seem to be your forte.

OK... now for your comment.

Milk has been the SOURCE of emergency food reserves (butter
and cheese) for several hundred years... but only by scattered
groups of people in a few countries.

Back then there was no pasteurization, no refrigeration, and
no mass transportation. Whatever was left over after feeding
the newborn calf was collected... and quickly churned into
butter. Only small amounts could be collected, and it was made
into butter and cheese and stored away in cellars before it
could turn rotten. For the most part it was use as emergency
food stock (high in energy ladened FAT) for cold hard winters.
Butter, you should know, IS 100% fat. Whole milk has 3.5%
fat... which constitutes 49% of the calories in milk. The
misleading 2% milk has fat that provides around 35% of the
calories.

The dairy cow of today is kept lactating for the greater part
of a year (vice a couple of months) and through consuming
bathtubs of water and lots of cheap feed (all too often made
up of grain scraps, blood from their ancestors and other
critters, and chicken dung). Farmers who don't use Monsanto's
Posilac growth hormone shot (less then half, now) have cows
that produce up to TEN TIMES what the cow created a hundred
years ago... and those that get the shot increase that 40
quarts to up to 55 quarts a day. That means more infections
(and more antibiotics to control them), more blood and pus
in the milk, up to 80% more of that powerful growth hormone
called IGF-1... fingered as being a KEY factor in the rapid
growth and proliferation of cancers. And, of course, the
cow "burns out" much faster.

If you check the stats you will discover that few of the 180+
countries consume much milk. Japan didn't, until after we
concurred them.... and now the have similar problems like us...
including earlier sexual maturity, taller, fatter, and with
zits. According to WHO (World Health Organization) 95% of
black in the world are lactose intolerant, and around 53% of
Latinos are intolerant. That says a lot! The white race
came from the few countries that have used some milk, butter
and cheese for centuries... and they have evolved with a
tolerance to the many problems that come from ingesting
cow's milk.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: HORTON
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-01-27 08:32:13
Comments: I mean what i said And I said what I meant... An elephant's faithful ONE HUNDRED PER CENT!

1998

"... I add a little Parmesan cheese...put mozzarrella on our chicken....sour cream for vegtable or onion dip when we entertain....buy a pint of ice cream for the girls...spread cream cheese on our bagels."

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Horton,

You were the 'Dr. Seuss' elephant who hatched an egg and became parent to a little bird.

Not only did I hatch an egg, but I laid one too, and now I have a bit of egg on my face!

When I wrote "MILK-The Deadly Poison" I occasionally used milk products as a condiment. Telling the truth may be perceived as a mistake to some people , but it reflected where I was in 1997 when that passage was written. If anything, it reflects how difficult it is to give up delicious tasting pus with hormones and glue.

Today I eat absolutely no dairy products. I eat no meat, and I eat no eggs! We all are on a journey, continuing to learn. Those who stop learning, and stop changing, are the ones who die before they are 'born.'.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: jessie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 2000-01-27 07:54:07
Comments: What about goat milk? Is it as bad as taking cow's milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jessie,

Goat's milk is the perfect drink for baby goats.

Goat's milk contains hormones and proteins that are allergenic to humans.

Drink human breast milk, dog's milk, and pig's milk, ok? Now, wouldn't that be silly?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alithia
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: World Citizen
Time: 2000-01-24 19:25:32
Comments: Q:I was told by a government doctor expert in the field of CJD, (I do not know his qualifications) that "infectious prion protein can be inactivated under proper conditions by soaking instruments in household clorox for 30 mins followed by boiling for 30 mins;treatment with 1N sodium hydroxyde and autoclaved;and other methods."

Is this true? That easy? Other articles i have read address the difficulty of sterilization of instruments.

Also, on page 282 of your book, you mention Carleton Gajdusek. Can you tell us more about him? Is he out? Could he verify the above statment?

Thank you, & eat low on the food chain.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Alithia,

PRIONS (the infectious agents responsible for CJD or Mad Cow Disease) can be passed from cow to human in bone meal (careful about working that spade in your garden). These infectious protein particles cannot be destroyed by 1000 degree heat.

PRIONS can also be found in the flesh of infected animals. Be sure and ask the Burger King chef to sterilize his spatula!

PRIONS are also contained within the body fluids of infected animals. Do they sterilize plastic spoons at Ben & Jerry's?

Be on the safe side! Adult tofu creatures do not pass on PRIONS to their tofu children or to humans.

As for Gadjusek, he was wrongly imprisoned, served his jail time in a federal prison, and now lives in Europe.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: wendy K
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From:
Time: 2000-01-22 02:29:32
Comments: what do you think about drinking soy milk or even powdered baby formula?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Wendy,

I think that soy milk is delicious and nutritious. However, powdered baby formula makes me gag. I prefer my baby formula straight up...

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 2000-01-21 22:02:51
Comments: I see colostrum advertised in health magazines and on a health talk radio station. I understand colostrum is a part of the cow's milk that is fed to the calf. Is this supplement as bad as the whole milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

It's worse! Colostrum contains ENORMOUS quantities of powerful growth hormones. Many health magazines would do anything for money, and in accepting such ads, they sacrifice their integrity.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 2000-01-21 21:51:52
Comments: It had been about one year since I went off of most dairy products. I tried to drink milk again last fall and wound up with a sinus cold. No more milk for me! I can breathe easier now and instead of drinking milk at meals I blend some vegetables together. Hope you can get on TV to offset some of those bizarre "Got Milk" ads. It really makes me sick to see the lies they are perpetuating with these ads. Too bad those actors that do the ads don't realize the harm they are doing to the people gullible enough to fall for them.

Name: Jillian
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: San Francisco
Time: 2000-01-21 16:04:27
Comments: I used to drink about a gallon and a half of milk a week and thought it odd that my Dr said I needed to take calcium! I was surfing nutritional websites and found yours. I will NEVER purchase dairy again!!! I've been vegan for 3 months and never felt better. Keep up the good work!

Name: Mario Teran
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Venezuela
Time: 2000-01-21 04:32:28
Comments: I have not read your book "Milk The Deadly Poison" but what I have read and listened to (lectures broadcasted on the radio) is quite impressive. Prior to coming across Robert Cohen's information I was well aware of the fact that milk is poison. I learned this from the wisest man on earth refered to as Neter A'afereti:Atum-re (Egiptian name), check his website at www.egiptianmysteries.com.(yes, Egipt is the proper spelling find out why at his website). He has been teaching undisputable fact for 30 years and has always told him not believe him, check it out! You probably haven't heard from him because his frekles are too close; however, he teaches truth beyond doubt. Your information provides an exellent research source and I am proud to see a Nubian brother step up like you have. Keep kickin' the facts and your life will flourish with reality. You have taught me several things I didn't know like the fact that they put casein in tuna and your revelations about the dairy ads are both quite entertaining and informative. However, aviod the extremes becuase health food nuts are also in the grave. You must have some processed foods in your diet in order to adapt to poisons in case healthier food becomes scarce. Also, keep in mind that purchasing milk substitutes shows that a person still needs milk. They (mainly the Media) have sublimanally seduced our minds making the addiction to milk both a psychological dependancy as well as a physiological one (not to say you should't use milk substitutes). It is also sad that they, like what they do with pork, put milk into everything so theey can to poison us. A nice read is "Afican Holistic Health by Afrika. Llaika, check it out. You can email me at the adress listed above to share information or let me know about any lectures you might be giving in the Boston area. Peace! Keep up the good work ............................................................

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-01-19 03:14:16
Comments: Want to see in detail the illegal antibiotics & other substances used or attempted to be used on cows for your self?..See www.fda.gov/foi/warning.htm Remember these were the very few who got caught. Then go down past the Recalls, (this will be difficult)click on SEARCH WARNING LETTERS BY SUBJECT, then click "C" for information about CATTLE/FOOD, view in detail what they used. (I also clicked on "B" for blood(human), since i am interested in learning more about the testing of our blood supply in light of Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease. If you are interested in CJD, and at the present time we all should be see www.mad-cow.org, another very interesting but more scientific site on this same subject is http://cjdfoundation.org I just bought the Mad Cowboy, by Howard Lyman & can't wait to read it after visiting these sites. I found one link in Australia & i was their first visitor. This needs much more coverage. Side tracked again....... Any way go back to fda page & go further down to USDA FOOD SAFETY & INSPECTION, here is a detailed comprehensive lists of illnesses & recalls for the USA. Where?, What? & Who?... Read them if you need any further evidence as to why we should stay away from animal products all together. I notice no veggies were recalled. Keep spreading the word.

Name: sandy harrison
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA/MA
Time: 2000-01-18 19:40:13
Comments: keep fighting!

Name: Toni
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 2000-01-16 09:39:14
Comments: Live a little...everybody dies.....it's where you go when you die that counts...not how long you can stretch out a life on this earth...are you ready for eternity with Christ..........????

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Toni,

You and I have a different belief and philosophy.

I believe that it is what you do every day that really counts, not what happens after you die. I often gauge my reaction to an event on how I imagine a group of history's great prophets would have reacted to a similar scenario.

Imagine, if you will:

Jesus, Mohammed, and Moses visit a modern-day slaughterhouse where 2,000 cows had their throats slashed in assembly-line fashion. You are then priveleged to attend a panel discussion and listen to their comments. What wisdom do you imagine you would hear?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: manuel h
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: oxnard calif.
Time: 2000-01-16 03:30:29
Comments: great site

Name: katie marshall
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: seattle washington
Time: 2000-01-16 00:07:17
Comments: how long have you been a vegan? Have you writen a book at all? if you have not you really should think about doing so!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Katie,

It's been three years! My fist book was:

MILK-The Deadly Poison

My second book should be out within the month:

ELSIE'S FABLE

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Advocate
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 2000-01-15 20:42:11
Comments: I saw your picture. It looks like your could use a nice refreshing glass of healthy milk. Not sermon, just a thought.......don't preach to me. Have a nice day.

Name: Louise Larabie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ontario, Canada
Time: 2000-01-15 18:17:43
Comments: One of the problems I found with your substitutes for milk is they were cooked. I believe it is the cooking process that causes the problems with illness and degeneration. Some recipes can be changed to raw like the almond milk one. Eating raw almonds is very good as it has raw protein and calcium. For pet’s raw bones is the best way for them to get their calcium. There is a big movement to feed Biologically Appropriate Raw Foods diet affectionately called BARF :o)))) My dog when from a poor prospect for a pet (hyper, very itchy and suffering from "dry eye" which is lack of tears and often leads to ulceration of the eye. In 4 days of grains, cooked combined starches and protein called kibble and on a raw meaty bone diet she calmed down was more attentive and her eyes and skin got better and went on to get best in show. I started to eat more and more raw foods and I lost 12 pounds of fluid (had pitted edema) and now down 40 pound as a side effect of eating MORE food and even adding fats (from the raw nuts and flaxseed oil) I feel better now at 53 than when I was 26 (I felt like I was 95 then) Had arthritis, phlebitis, low thyroid, cysts, acne, cramps, poor memory, so tired I would have to take a nap to stay up till 9:30 PM. So not only should you avoid pasteurized milk (raw milk you can get if you buy a share of ownership in a cow or goat) the law has been written so the farmer cannot sell raw milk otherwise. I don't think we need raw milk but at least the protein is more natural and your body can use it. Cooked foods are treated by the body like a poison so all you have said about milk in my opinion can be said about cooked foods. If you are tired all the time switch over to raw food, read "Fit for Life and Fit for Life II" for some of the basics information on digestion (keep working at eliminating grains and cooked foods and increasing the amount of raw) I have so much better health. Read up on the subject as eating raw the wrong way (poorly combined) can cause even more problems or gas and diarreha

Name: Marvin Ferrell
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Boise, Idaho
Time: 2000-01-14 20:16:57
Comments: I agree. It's unnatural for adult humans to drink the milk of a different mammal. It's just not natural. Certainly not as natural as peanut butter, television, computers, toilets, bread, zippers, paint, and a thousand other things that you will find growing on trees in a totally natural environment. So let's go back to nature, where we wouldn't drink milk, or cook food, or wash our bodies, or live in houses. Now that's living!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Marvin? Your dripping sarcasm is delightful. Who am I to disagree with your logic? Let's all toast the taste of the bubbly white stuff: How about a 12 ounce glass of human breast milk with your next PB & J sandwich? No? Sounds disgusting, huh? Perhaps instinctively, the ape in you realizes that human milk is loaded with immunoglobulins, lactoferrins, and hormones.

Have billions of dollars of dairy industry brainwashing dollars convinced you that cow's milk does not contain similar substances?

Put that thinking cap on, Marvin.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tam
Website: Living Life
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Tampa
Time: 2000-01-14 09:05:58
Comments: I appreciate the information...I am vegan and see the world dairy free in the near future. Namaste.

Name: Carmen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ohio
Time: 2000-01-14 06:34:59
Comments: Well i want to know what happened to all those dairy boys of the fall class of '80, at the University of Wisconsin Madison? Do you remember me?

One of the handful of women in the class, the only one not from a dairy farm. You guys sure asked alot of questions about anibiotics in the milk in those days. I also saw lots of snickers & rolling eyes when the profesor said, you could not find any traces in the milk. They never did give us any studies on this, did they?

I remember them also saying, that eggs had no harmful cholesterol..now i ain't no corn fed dame, but that sure sounded like a bunch of hogwash even then.

Remember the field trip we all took to try & guess the amount of body fat & marbeling each animal had while alive, so we could compare to see if we were right after they were slaughtered? A cow , a pig & i think a sheep.

After we inspected & made notes, they measured the pigs fat(i remember the pig screaming when they measured his fat on his back by inserting a sharp blade with a measurer, sure sounded like a human being tortured.) Not being from a farm you see, i had never heard that, but you all laughed. I guess that is farm humor.

A few moments later they were sawed in half, gutted & skinned & hanging neatly from a hook. Nice. They even let you boys skip the dirties part. I was a vegetarian at the time, so i really had wished they would have made us watch.

I learned from you that animals are fed cement in their feed before going to slaughter so they weigh more. I saw how the udders are dipped in some purple iodine looking fluid before the machine gets attached. Antibacterial, & who knows what else since we were never told.

I did learn that cows had 4 stomachs & ruminated. You should have seen the cows at the experimental station, they kept a gasket on the cows side so you could unscrew the cap,(similar to a large gas tank lid) & put your hand inside to see how the cow was digesting the latests concoction of what you all call feed. Not much was spoken abou this, just a lot of talk about putting weight on, growing, fast & increasing milk.

Also remember studying in detail the skeletal system,& the hormones. We studied alot about the hormones that the cows had, that make them ovulate, lactate, etc. I remembered that they were identical to humans, in the way they functioned etc. I learned more about my hormones in this class than in any other health class. They work just like women's, finally smething useful.

I really felt for those poor cows working all day, getting their teats yanked on all day, while tied down. No wonder they mood in protest. I always wondered what would happen if the machine latched on improperly, who would know? how much pain would the cow have?.....

Of course you boys can not identify with the female pain, as i now a breast feeding mother can. But what i remember most clearly was the day we did disections.

Specifically, the day they brought in Bull's testicles on a tray. (the purpose of this is still unknown, since this was not a vet class). Well you boys were as white as sheets, when they lifted up those bloody testacles for all to see. You could have heard a pin drop. Remember the guy who got weak knees & fell to the floor only to be lifted by other sympathetic macho dairy men?

I was the only one laghing then,...now there was the first time that had seen these boys even consider that cows were breathing living things, that endured pain just like the rest of us.

Are you guys who pass out at the sight of blood, the same ones who are threatening Robert?

Needless to say after that experience i got out of the Agriculture school,& majored in Sociology.(The study of humans, for you dairy boys).

I wonder what would have happened if i would have taken Poultry science?


Name: Thomas
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NY
Time: 2000-01-14 05:53:53
Comments: Hello. I heard about this on WFAN The Fan 66 am radio. I was very interested in your research. I would like to know how to get the book. Please e-mail me. -tom-

Name: Tony Gutierrez III, D.C.
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Arlington,WA
Time: 2000-01-14 04:16:54
Comments: Great sight. I have been telling people for years how toxic milk is, despite my lack of research. This sight seems to have it.

Name: Brian R. Covey, D.C.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington state
Time: 2000-01-13 04:24:47
Comments: Keep up the good work, I sure appreciate the use of valid information I can obtain from here.

Name: katie marshall
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Seattle,Washington
Time: 2000-01-12 09:58:32
Comments: I could be wrong, I can't rember the name of the author, I think it is you. Did you write the book Mad cowboy?

NOTMILKMANS COMMENT:

Dear Katie,

I would love to take credit for that BRILLIANT book, but credit goes to Howard Lyman.

Howard will be joining me on my hunger strike. His book, MAD COWBOY can be ordered on Amazon.com.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dr. Rosalynne Stampfes
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Seattle
Time: 2000-01-12 08:48:31
Comments: Heard you on the Seattle station coming home tonight. I've been preaching this for years....and of course we love it when we find someone who can back up w/hard colds facts the beliefs we already spout:) Will order your book for my clinic. Thanks for being... Sincerely, Rosalynne

Name: Julienne Athanas
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Evanston, IL
Time: 2000-01-11 10:21:01
Comments: I was glad to be introduced to this URL. It is scarey that more Americans don't speak out against Genetic Engineering in foods. I for one would like to become as informed as possible to make my own choices, not have them made for me. I want to see better labeling and labeling we can trust. I try to buy organic when I can. Thanks.

Name: Jenny
Website: The Revival Fellowship
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-01-10 16:23:30
Comments: Dear Robert, Hello again. I was just thinking. If Monsanto stop using Posilac, (which will be great), how will that change the fact that people will still die from breast cancer? While people continue to drink milk they are still putting themselves at risk of getting cancer. How do we try to get the whole world to listen? How do you stop people from drinking milk? It's the same as people who smoke, we know how deadly smoking is and that it causes cancer, yet people still continue to smoke knowing this fact.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jenny,

Most people never obtain an advanced degree in PHILOSOPHY because they forget to sign up for a pre-requisite course:

LOGIC-101

People will continue to drink milk and smoke cigarettes, despite mounting evidence that neither does the body any good.

At one time, cigarette companies ran commercials with physicians endorsing smoking. Today the milk industry does the same.

Who says prostitution isn't legal?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jenny
Website: The Revival Fellowship
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-01-10 15:37:57
Comments: Dear Robert, Thanks for answering my question. I have another 2 questions I would like to ask. The bovine growth hormone in American milk is putting people at risk of getting cancer. The countries that don't use bovine growth hormone in their milk, are they still putting their people at risk of getting cancer? Is the rate of getting cancer higher if people drink milk that has bovine growth hormone in it?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jenny,

The nations with the highest rates of breast cancer include Denmark, Norway, Holland, and Sweden. These nations do not use the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone (rbGH), but they do have higher rates of breast cancer than does the United States.

Cow's milk naturally contains hormones.

Milk from cows treated with rbGH contains increased levels of those same powerful hormones.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jenny
Website: The Revival Fellowship
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 2000-01-09 13:24:02
Comments: Dear Robert, Just a quick question. In Australia they have banned using bovine growth hormone. Is our cow's milk just as harmful as America's genetically modified version?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jenny,

Eighty percent of the protein in the milk from your cows contains CASEIN, a tenacious glue.

Each sip of Australian milk contains 59 different bioactive hormones.

Your cow's milk is naturally loaded with fat and cholesterol.

Would you drink kangaroo milk or koala bear milk or even human breast milk? Each substance is nature's perfect food for the young of that specific species.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: george g silva
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: perth amboy NJ.
Time: 2000-01-09 11:31:59
Comments: i fully agree with you 100% the milk lobby is too powerful to crack .i I am sick of seeing all those moustaches..

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear George,

We're winning, and that's the bottom line! Congress may not work, and the media may not report the truth, but the wholesale price of milk continues to drop because people are drinking less of it!

This financial tragedy is becomming a wake-up call to the dairy industry. Last year at this time, farmers were getting over $17 for 100 pounds of milk. Today they receive $9.63 per hundredweight.

This will be a cold, hard winter for dairymen. They have gotten our message, along with consumers as the price of milk drops in direct proportion to milk consumption.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carmen Cubillo
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: world citizen
Time: 2000-01-08 20:55:19
Comments: Found your site through the TOTNES GENETICS GROUP SITE, an excellent site for GE information and activism.(In England) I am writing to as many people i can about this subject. Have been surfing trying to find groups that might be interested in joining, such as people interested in gardening, alternative health care practiotioners, folks in the the organic movement, breast feeding groups, midwifes, etc. Urge all to do same. We need to especially target schools, that is where the milk industry is heavily pushing the stuff to our kids.

Read article stating milk consumption was down by 40%, but TWO NEW TYPES OF LOW-FAT and NO FAT MILK have been invented, by the New Jersey based Farmland Industries. Any info. on this? Farmland Dairies' Special Request Skim Plus and 1%Plus. These are suppossed to taste closer to whole milk, with more protein, & more calcium, so people will drink more. They claim no chemicals or hormones. In new Jersey, no less, the head quarters of the notmilk movement. Coincidence????

Finally, this osteoperosis thing ends with me, I refuse to pass the problem on to my kids.As my mom always says,"we did not know then," well we know now!

Glad to see site back was a little worried.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Carmen,

Farmland sucessfully markets a milk/soy product, but they did not "invent" the process. A company named "COOL COW" approached the FARMLAND company with a formula, and asked them to mix and container their product. FARMLAND altered the formula, stole the idea, and put the COOL COW company out of business.

All's fair in love, war, and milk marketing.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Penni Royston
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 1999-12-29 09:34:23
Comments: I gave up dairy after reading Marilu Henner's book Total Health Makeover. I've been using rice or almond milk as a substitute and canola margarine instead of butter. Just the thought of dairy makes my stomach turn now. I just wish that the public schools would offer a healthy alternative to milk for lunch. At my daughter's school we have to pay extra for juices (which really is not 100% juice anyway). There are no substitutes offered for those students who are lactose intolerant.

Name: Gary R. Dubin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Pemroke Pines, Florida
Time: 1999-12-26 16:43:44
Comments: We operate a chain of health food stores in Southern Florida with plans to expand nationwide over the next yeear or two. First openings will be Georgia, Texas, Illinois and Minesota. We have a good opportunity to educate many health oriented people on the dangers of milk as a source of Calcium. We sell a tremendous amount of supplements for Calcium including generics for Oscal, Citrical and Caltrate plus one we recomend that includes magnesium and zinc. All are very inexpensive and provide calcium. We also have the newer bone builders containing ostivone from Natrol, Twin and Natures Pride.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Gary,

Good luck with your stores!

Human breast milk contains 33 mg of calcium per 100 gram portion. That is the perfect formula for baby humans!

I hope that your stores also carry calcium-rich foods such as amaranth, hummus, tahini, and fresh dark green organically grown vegetables!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: grant lawrence
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: waterville, oh
Time: 1999-12-26 08:32:09
Comments: interesting,i had heard of the milk controversy from listening to canandian radio over the internet. the corporate controlled media is going to find it harder to control information. i am a vegetarian and i am now wondering about the use of milk. thanks for the info.

Name: helen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: UK
Time: 1999-12-26 07:39:15
Comments: Been vegan for yrs; v glad too, now I see so clearly in your excellent website what I had only had glimpses of before. Keep up the good work! Think I found website from reading anti GM e-mail, but 1 hr in, I can't remember! I can see in the growth of a son's friend how dairy & meat is geared to rearing big brawny calves, not humans. I breast fed my children until they weaned naturally, aged 3 & 6! - saved any worries about "are they getting enough calcium?" etc! La Leche League is an excellent supportive group of breastfeeding (also have excellent ideas on children & parenting generally). Bye!

Name: Karuna Wang
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Jakarta, Indonesia
Time: 1999-12-24 10:02:41
Comments: I haven't really surfed this site yet, but i think -if have finished surfing/checking it-, i will would like to thanks each of you who has made this site available. Thank you.

Name: Ginger
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 1999-12-22 08:51:59
Comments: I happened to stumble on to Robert Cohen's notmilk page after watching a video encouraging people to consider a vegan lifestyle. I love to do research on what I hear and read, so I decided to look into meat and milk. WOW! I was shocked at the truth that Robert's site brought to light! My family and I were HUGE milk consumers. Let me stress the word "were". Thanks to Robert and the Lord, my eyes have been opened! Let me tell you, the dairy industries profits are really falling now! We used to be our Schwans sales rep's best dairy consuming clients, with our purchase of 3-6 rings of cheese bread, sour cream potatoes, 3 lbs of cheese tortellini, and more than 10 gallons of ice cream a month. And we did our best to keep the local pizzaria in business with bi-weekly visits! We had milk or some sort of dairy at EVERY meal. And we were spending almost $1000 a month on food. NO MORE! :) Our lives have really changed. And it wouldn't have happened without Robert's site and his voice. I have listened to his radio interview more times than I can count. I want it etched forever in my mind. I am so thankful for the knowledge I have obtained so that I was able to make an intelligent and informed decision. My hope is that many other people will find the truth and obtain good health in the process, by making intelligent changes and choices for their future. God bless you and all of the hungerstrikers efforts!

Name: Chuck Lawhead
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Boulder, Colorado
Time: 1999-12-21 08:05:14
Comments: It is truly not so wonderful a thing to find that your own personal suffering has been shared by many... but the knowledge gives me comfort nonetheless. I am pleased now to have a book that I can pass along to my family (I have siblings with toddlers right now) in the hope that I can help spare them and their children the wretched symptoms that I had grown to accept as "normal" - severe chest pains, inability to smell things, virtually continuous congestion... I'll stop there. But this next one's funny: when a doctor prescribed a fiber laxative for me some 10+ years ago, I began taking it twice a day with a large glass of milk! Hah hah hah! It kills me! How do you like your poison?!!! Anonymous readers out there: get this one message clearly - you have to stop consuming this poison to see it for what it is.

Name: Debbie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Nova Scotia, Canada
Time: 1999-12-21 07:02:36
Comments: I want to comment on Robert Weidenhammer's post. I have to wonder about the "degree in animal science". He said "These hormones are species specific to begin with. These hormones are also taken in orally which in no way effects the human body." An interesting comparison is a drug commonly used by women to treat symptoms of menopause. It is called Premarin (derived from PRegnant MARes' urINe). It is horse-estrogen, is taken orally by women and, in small amounts, it has a major effect on the human body.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Debbie,

'Species specific' has its own very special meaning when applied to milk hormones. The most powerful growth hormone in a cow's body (IGF-I) is identical to the most powerful growth hormon in the human body. How is that for evidence of Mother Nature's marvelous sense of humor?

When cows are injected with the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone, levels of IGF-I in their milk increase by about eighty percent. When humans drink milk, levels of IGF-I in their blood serum inrease by 10%.

Regards,

he NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kathryn Wigglesworth
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Canada
Time: 1999-12-19 06:53:59
Comments: A lot of stuff here I never would have guessed. Absolutely mortified.

Name: Robert and Caara Stoney
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Georgia, USA and Ireland
Time: 1999-12-18 05:37:13
Comments: Excellent stuff. This is as important to our freedom, independence and basic human rights as that for which the founding fathers fought two and quarter centuries ago.

Name: Jasper
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: The Netherlands
Time: 1999-12-15 03:02:06
Comments: Hi, I like your site. I'm a vegetarian and i'm thinking about not drinking milk too. If you have drinked milk all your life, do you need to have alternatives?

   First and foremost... as a vegetarian you should have been told that due to the high protein content (and other goodies) milk can be considered "liquid meat".

   Alternative for what... the

  • 59 hormones? -- None are desirable or wise to consume.
  • 100 allergens? -- Better off removed. Use the casein to repair the chair.
  • herbicides? -- Keep them far away or they may stunt YOUR growth.
  • pesticides? -- Use very sparingly... and not as a drink.
  • feces? -- Uh! No thanks
  • blood? -- Got plenty of my own
  • fat? -- Thanks to milk and dairy I am still about 30% fat
  • cholesterol? -- Who needs clogged plumbing?
  • bacteria? -- Hey... we already have too many!
  • pus cells? -- I shudder to wonder how many zillions I have consumed!
  • PCB's, dioxin's and more? -- Talk about icing on the "cake".
  • calcium? -- Not very usable without magnesium... wasted money.

   Did you know that milk is 87% water? A gallon is 128 ounces or 16 8-oz. cups/glasses. Of the 16 cups in a gallon of "milk"... almost 14 of them consist of VERY EXPENSIVE water! Remove all the above "goodies" from a gallon of "milk" and you will end up with 111.36 ounces of natures truly PERFECT beverage... water!

   Cereal? That was something invented to help sell milk (similar to "Twinkies"... see http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html... and this page is also a good overview on calcium). Think fruit, grains, nuts... all those striped down items they stuff into cereal to make it sound better and seem more nutritional. Check the labels... and wonder what a lot of that stuff is and what it is doing to your body and brain (such as MSG... monosodium glutamate see http://www.truthinlabeling.org).

Alternative for something to wash down food?

   If you really NEED to drown something before you consume it... try nut, coconut, rice or soy milks. (see http://www.notmilk.com/altmilk.html for more info). Buy a Soymaker and make your own for pennies a gallon. Need words from the experts... visit http://www.notmilk.com/newmilk.html for a "starter kit" and books on this subject.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Bob
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Phoenix
Time: 1999-12-15 00:55:21
Comments: Nice page. I used to have allergies all the time until I gave up milk back in 92. I had read something about the implausibilty that human beings could be so evolutionarily defective that we need to spend our lives drinking the milk of a cow. I haven't had any allegy problems since. My mother who is 67 finds the smell of milk repulsive so she never drinks it. She had her bones tested for signs of osteoporisis and found that her bone density is excellent for her age! I am totally convinced that milk is the dumbest, most outrageous hoax in the world today. .

Name: Robert Weidenhammer
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: PA
Time: 1999-12-14 16:40:09
Comments: As a dairy farmer and a graduate of Delaware Valley College with a degree in animal science i find it hard to believe that people actually believ this stuff. Ever thing you say is true to a point. When it rains is the sky really falling? Yes it is but we are educated enough that we do not blow it out of proportion. Yes there are hormones in milk, but these hormones are species specific to begin with. These hormones are also taken in orally which in no way effects the human body. The body sees these hormones as protein strands and they are simply broken up, we do not have the ability to absorb such long protein strands into the blood. Next I would like to talk about the "puss" in milk. Puss is nothing more than white blood cell grouped together. White blood cells are found in everthing from our own saliva to yes even milk. The problem is that you call these naturally occuring cells puss and people get the image of an infected wound dripping with yellow slim and that is not at all the case. If anyone here wants to hear the facts feel free to email me with your questions but please dont listen to all of the garbage you can find on the internet. thank you.

   Nice try, Robert... but YOU are the deceiver here (not of your making, though).

   First... how many hormones in a tomato (non-GE'ed, of course). How many in a carrot, apple, cranberry, whole wheat or a Brazil nut? Guess what. Since there are NONE, then we don't have to worry about "do they or don't they survive digestion".

   Second, your "The body sees these hormones as protein strands and they are simply broken up" is a lie. The FDA used it, and now they, TOO, have been proven to be liars.

   http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html is Robert Cohen's article "THE DAIRY INDUSTRY SELF-DESTRUCTS" where he says "The FDA approved the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone after concluding that IGF-I was destroyed in the stomach. According to FDA, it is not possible that milk consumption would result in an increase of IGF-I in the human body." (Please note that by this pronouncement the FDA proved that breast feeding does NOT work!:-)

   Robert Heaney, MD with the Journal of the American Dietetic Association did an extensive test (rigged to prove those who drink more milk have better bones). A sidelight of that test is his finding that those who consumed 3 (vice 1.5) glasses of milk a day had TEN PERCENT MORE IGF-1... in their blood. Only 12 more ounces of milk equates to this significant rise! IGF-1... a powerful GROWTH HORMONE that the medical establishment says is a KEY FACTOR, in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate, colon and lung cancers. (Oh! ... And this hormone IS IDENTICAL between cow's and humans).

   Hey, Robert... why bother checking out the OTHER 58 hormones???? The verdict is IN... get rid of cow's milk in the diet because it was meant to be an emergency nutritional "starter-pack" for a newborn CALF, complete with SPECIES SPECIFIC formulations AND species specific lactoferrins and immunoglobulins. The protein lactalbumin, a key factor in diabetes, is the primary reason cow's milk is no longer recommended for children under the age of ONE.

   As to your "Puss is nothing more than white blood cell grouped together". Pus are DEAD white cells. They DIED doing their job fighting infection or disease. Except for an open and festering wound on a human body... please indicate where you think you might find up to 20,000 somatic cells per CC. When was the last time you sucked a pus laden sore for the taste? Especially a sore on a cow's body!

   So much for your degree from Delaware Valley College. Common sense seems to be worth much more than that piece of paper. As a prostate cancer victim I only wish I had been provided the WHOLE truth many years ago! IGF-1 did what it was supposed to do... made things grow. As the first among my ancestors to get any form of cancer.. it was declared to be in the terminal stage (already spread) at the young age of 55.

   Common sense says that your mom weaned you for good reasons. The calf's mother weaned IT for good reasons.

   That gives rise to a valid question: "Why are humans still nursing the polluted juices from diseased animals?" (Good for businesses, right? Yours, the medical system... morticians)

   If it is "OK" from a cow... and perhaps a goat, why not from a skunk, rat, horse or elephant? Human breast milk is mother natures "perfect" version for human babies. Why not cut to the chase and keep human mothers lactating all the time?

   Your soothing disinformation will not cut it, Robert. Especially when you add herbicides, pesticides, PCB's, dioxin's (and concentrated anything ELSE the cow ate), 49% of calories in FAT, enough cholesterol per 3 glasses of milk to equal 19 slices of bacon per day, viruses, perhaps some TB and Prions... and more.

   Oh, and of course, that calcium gimmick is so fraudulent that it should overshadow all the other lies. Cow's get an abundance of calcium from green plants. Plants that have the all important magnesium necessary to USE calcium for their systems. Cow's milk has little if any magnesium. Worse, Robert, 80% of the protein in milk is casein (better used as a polymer for plastics or as furniture glue... not as a powerful mucus maker for humans). This could qualify milk as a "liquid meat" which, when added to all the other large amounts of protein Americans eat may well LEACH calcium from the body.

   As one farm boy to another I say go back to college, Robert. But wait until the professors learn the WHOLE truth, so that they can pass it on to you and your children.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Robert H Davis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Dayton,Ohio.
Time: 1999-12-13 23:02:12
Comments: I found you because I heard you on WYSO book review, bought your book , and saw your web page address . I have been involved in ways to fight the yeast bacteria in the human for more than 15 years. I thought sugar was the primary food for candidia but maybe milk fit better. I rember when as a child I drank plenty fo milk, used half&half on my cereal, ate a pint of icecream each day on the way home from football practice so I would gain weight and body mass. Yes I Had acne, pimples and blackheads. most of the scars have now gone away. I still have small pockets of white stuff uder my facial skin. this itches after I drink a sugared water such as soda pop, fruit drinks , alcohl, milk, or eat foods that contain such. A symptom I have , tinitis, resumes when I eat these foods. Any way, I know of a way that can quikly restore the health to any human and many animals . It proves that you are on the right track. At most hospitals pathologest take sample tissue from those who die at the hospital from old age and other problems relating to old age. What is common is all no longer have the good bacteria that we cannot live without. The yeast bacteria has taken over the space in the intestins and the lining cannot absorb nutriants and we actually die of malnutrition. One sympton is when the root of this yeast, called candidia, grows thru the linning it makes a path for raw food to enter the blood stream directly. When the body sugar is low the root shrinks and the yeast dumps toxin into the blood stream training us to feed the yeast. That is a hunger pain.That is mostlikly when we are most vunerable to allergeys. That is the way IGF gets into our blood. Observe the young girls in school and how many milk drinkers now have large breast. It has become a visable sympton. More later. your friend . Bob Davis.

Name: Donna
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1999-12-13 11:36:46
Comments: Over the past 6-9 months I have noticed an increase in "undiagnosed" asthma symptoms ( I have been a nurse for 6 years and know what's wrong with me) Wheezing, shortness of breath, sinus and nasal congestion, and extreme lethargy. During the past week, I found out about the link between dairy and asthma. So I decided to try going dairy free, and within 48 hours I was completely clear and felt better than I have in years. Then two nights ago, I ate some cheeses and when I awoke the next morning I could barely breathe, and I am still not completely clear again. I have been searching the web trying to find out more about my situation and some ideas on what to do now. I have found your site to be the most helpful and informative. Being from the so-called "Dairy State" and a lover of cheese this won't be easy but I know that if I want to be healthy I have to do this. I was also interested to see the connection between Dairy and Diabetes, as my husband was diagnosed with this disease 6 weeks ago. Thank you for caring about people, and taking the time to make this issue heard. May God bless your endeavors, and I offer my prayers that the world finds out all this so we can at least save our grandchildren from this suffering.

Name: Tiffany
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: East Texas
Time: 1999-12-13 10:28:34
Comments: I have been allergic to milk since I was in grade school. I was constantly sick and my mother finally but the 2 together. If I drink any form of a dairy/milk product, within a few hours of consumption I have either strep-throat or tonsolitious. Therefore, I do not drink it. I have lived my life quite well without milk. I think your site is wonderful...Wish there were more people who felt the same. I admire what you do! Keep up the wonderful, informative work! Tiffany

Thank you for your guest book entry. It is crucial
that you complain to the FDA on at least one issue...
rbGH (that makes cow's milk worse from a cancer and
perhaps obesity viewpoint).

Robert Cohen has sued the FDA to remove rbGH from the
approved veterinary drugs list. This is FDA docket
number Docket 99P-4613.

Please Email fdadockets@oc.fda.gov and tell them you
support Docket 99P-4613 for the removal of rbGH from
the list of authorized drugs for cattle. Your letter
becomes a permanent part of this historical effort.

Consider Emailing COPIES of your Email to:
Jane E. Henney (jhenney@oc.fda.gov) FDA Commissioner
Dr.Andrew J. Beaulieu (abeaulie@cvm.fda.gov)

Thank you for your support.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: a friend
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-12-13 08:18:18
Comments: where did you get all this information? How many cases can you name of people actually getting cancer from milk? get real, I think you are just somebody that is very bored and has too much time on their hands. You are trying to make people think milk is bad for them? Get a life!

Thousands of substances CAUSE cancer... and we have not included milk.
However, substances like herbicides, pesticides, PCB's, dioxin's and other
known carcinogens present in milk CAN cause cancer. We DO say that the
powerful growth factor IGF-1 (identical between cow's and humans) is reported
by the medical establishment as a key factor in the rapid growth and pro-
liferation of breast, prostate, colon and lung cancers.

As to "Get a life"... thanks to learning the WHOLE truth about cow's milk and
dairy we most likely will have both a LONGER life, as well as one with fewer
medical problems (especially the major ones such as heart disease and cancer).

We have provided hundreds of pages loaded with provable facts... try reading
them with an open mind... and you, too, can benefit.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Offended Farmer
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Washington State
Time: 1999-12-13 02:59:19
Comments: What in the world are you thinking, and just out of curiosity, did you bother to do any research to back up what you present as fact? I have lived on a diary farm all of my life and can personally assure every person out there that Milk is not "PUS WITH HORMONES AND GLUE" as you said it was. You talk about antibiotics in milk and use that fact that americans eat more milk than meat to accuse farmers of "poisioning" milk. there is absolutly no corolation between the two that proves your point. Had you done propper research, you would have found that the P.M.O (pasturizzed milk ordinance) strictly regulates antibiotics in milk. EVERY DROP OF MILK THAT PASSES THROUGH A MILK PROCESSING PLANT IN THE U.S. IS TESTED, AND IF THE RESULTES ARE ANYTHING HIGHER THAN 0 PARTS PER BILLION, THEN THE ENTIRE TANK OF MILK IS DUMPED DOWN THE DRAIN, AT THE FARMERS EXPENSE. now if you'll excuse me, i need to go and milk the cows, and produce a healthy and delicious product for millions of people who can appericate what it is worth. and i do hope that when you reach you elder years, you osteoperocious dosn pain you too much

From Washington State, eh? Writing from Louisville, CO from
a friends computer? No Email address and no accountability.

So typical!

Before you open your mouth again... take some time to review the
many references (over 300) along with the other facts... including
milk tested by New York Times AND the Consumers Union... who both
found (independently) that their samples had traces of 52 different
antibiotics in them.

Do you contest the fact that the US FDA allows 20,000,000 live bacteria
and up to 750,000,000 somatic cells in "fresh" milk before it is kept
off the market?

"0 PARTS PER BILLION"? NOTHING is pure... except your above guestbook BS!

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster

Name: Jim Murphy
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 1999-12-11 01:43:58
Comments: I had already given up dairy products for several reasons before stumbling onto your site in a quest for more ammunition with which to persuade loved ones to join me. The amount of material here is staggering and the evidence so overwhelming that I don't know how any reasoning person could ignore it. However, my own family crusade is not nearly totally successful, and they are all above average in intelligence and emotional stability. I think they are wondering about me. The continuance of mother's milk throughout life satisfies a deep psychological need that no amount of reason can totally overcome. Your battle for the minds and hearts of America is as difficult as one against God and Country and may create as many enemies as though it were the same.

Name: gabrielle godling
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-12-11 01:22:54
Comments: i have been teaching others(those few who really want the truth) that milk was poison....for 15 years.....and i am very grateful for your book, it makes it much easier to talk about the deadly poison milk...any way that i can help, please let me know... thank you for your contribution to society.

Name: Wendy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-12-10 08:51:54
Comments: I haven't consumed any milk for eight years, ever since I became vegan. The thought of milk makes me sick. I was naturally destined to not drink milk from the beginning of my life. When I was a little baby I got a red rash all over my body. Luckily my mother took me to a doctor that recognized that it was a milk allergy and put me on soy formula, and the rash cleared right up. Humans are totally grossed out by the thought of drinking human breast milk as an adult, or even milk from a horse, but don't seem to flinch at the idea of drinking breast milk from a cow. It's not natural.

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: minnesota
Time: 1999-12-10 05:03:01
Comments: hello. a great pal of mine is now neutral on this subject. she's the only person who has been willing to listen to me. she's is wondering that since these briliant pediatritions say that at 1 year old they are supposed to drink whole milk for brain development, should they really do this? are doctrors aware that there are some dangers to milk consumption? why do they tell 1 year olds that they now can drink something that would have caused health problems before 1 eyar of age? why do pregnant moms drink milk then if babies less than 1 year of age cant drink the stuff? this is very confusing. do the cow hormones make it into the breast milk? thanks for your help..

Yes... all 59 hormones make the trip. But there is much more.

Here is a fairly complete list:

59 hormones -- Worst? Perhaps the powerful IGF-1 growth hormone (think cancer)
100 allergens -- Worst? Probably casein (80% of the protein) Think glue! (mucus maker)
blood -- Even under the best of conditions
feces -- Even under the best of conditions
fat -- Of the calories in whole milk 49% come from fat (35% for 2% milk)
cholesterol -- 3 glasses a day = the equivalent of 19 slices of bacon
herbicides -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
pesticides -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
dioxins -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk)
viruses -- (most likely many kinds of them)
up to 20,000,000 live bacteria per liter (FDA max limit)
up to 750,000,000 somatic (PUS) cells per liter (FDA max limit)
up to 52 different antibiotics (they only test for a few)
perhaps some TB (bovine mycobacterium paratuberculosis, the bacterium
linked to Johne's disease in cows and Crohn's disease in humans)
perhaps some Prions (a crystal that acts like a virus - think mad cow
disease. Perhaps 10-30 years for "incubation" for something that cannot
be destroyed by 900 degree Celsius heat)

Sixty Percent of America's dairy cows have leukemia virus.

87% of milk is WATER (mother natures truly perfect drink).

FAT CONTENT OF DAIRY PRODUCTS
as a percentage of total calories

Whole milk 49%
"2%" milk 35%*
Cheddar cheese 74%
Butter 100%

( * It is 2% fat only by weight.)

The milk of each of the over 4000 mammals on earth is formulated
specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and
immunoglobulins. In cow's milk the protein lactalbumin is considered a
key factor in diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving infant
children cows milk). Cows milk has three times the calcium as does
human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order
to be absorbed and used their should be significant quantity of
magnesium (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium
they need for their big bones). Milk has little magnesium.

80% of the protein in milk is casein. Milk can be considered as a
"liquid meat", which, when added to all the OTHER protein in an average
diet, may actually leach calcium from the bones. Countries with the
highest intake of milk and dairy have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
Milk moustaches = good bones is a milk industry myth.

Mother-natures perfect milk delivery system is directly from teet to
mouth. When anything is exposed to air the oxygen in it CHANGES things.
Metals oxidize (rust). Freshly sliced apples or pears turn brown.
Paper does a slow burn. Milk not consumed via mother natures intended
delivery system is automatically different.

There is no need in human nutrition for cow's milk. Dr. Spock (the
famous baby doctor whose books have been outsold only by the bible) said it
several years ago. Nor is the consumption of milk medically sound or
desirable. Considering that milk and dairy plays a significant role in
obesity, heart disease, cancer, asthma, diabetes, eczema, irritable
bowel syndrome, leukemia, poor digestion, lactose intolerance (according
to WHO 90% of world blacks are lactose intolerant), gas, bloating, behavioral
problems, osteoporosis, and more.

Considering that cow's milk is a fluid from diseased animals that
impacts heavily on human health ... it should NOT be considered a "taste
to die for".

Last... but not least:

Our mothers weaned us (there are excellent reasons for this)
The cow weaned her calf (practical and time tested reasons)

WHY DO HUMANS (ESSENTIALLY) NURSE FROM COWS?

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MN
Time: 1999-12-08 19:24:55
Comments: are doctors taught anything about the risks of dairy consumption? just curious...

I submit that few medical doctors have much knowledge in the areas of
nutrition, bone/nerves (as in chiropratic), the human mind, herbs or vitamines.

These tend to be either overlooked, or specialties.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Mary A. Lupoli
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 1999-12-08 09:35:19
Comments: I am in absolute agreement that milk should not be consumed by children or adults. I think it's poison.

Name: Liane Casten
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Evanston, IL
Time: 1999-12-08 08:54:15
Comments: Hey, Robert, thanks a bunch for your good words when I was on deadline. Frankly, I am not at all sure E Magazine is going to print the piece--taken mainly from my book on breast cancer. (Breast Cancer: Poisons, Profits and Prevention. Common Courage press, 1996) The editor is a terrified fellow and cannot bring himself to name names--like Monsanto. He already killed a story on Waste Management I had done, because it had hit too hard. So, while I took some time to write a piece I know only too well, I will bet it won't appear. Should not stop me from trying to place it somewhere else. NOW, please be careful of your body. You cannot go on until you endanger yourself. This Jewish mother would not approve!! So, whenever a good person (like a doctor) says, "enough" ---listen. I'm impressed by your passion, not your willingness to self destruct. I really think, judging by the growing interest in GE foods, that Monsanto may be pulling back a bit, especially if the farmers are not going to buy their seeds for next year. Thanks for all you are doing. Liane

Name: Nanette Grace Taska
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Boston
Time: 1999-12-08 07:53:34
Comments: Mr Cohen, With all of my support on the rBgh issue. Big business, going tooooo far for the $$$$. Takes a person like you to "GIVE THEM HELL" I wish I could do more, but I am the small person. Take Care Mr Robert

Name: cindy liang
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: san jose, ca
Time: 1999-12-08 04:00:41
Comments: hi, I'm reading your milk poison book and am happy to find the notmilk site. both me and my husband have been vegan for about 6 mos, but we are doing it for the ethical reason. Do you happen to know if it's safe/healthy to drink cow milk or eat yogurt in India? Would you eat or feed your kids a small quantity of dairy product coming from traditional family farms? thanks, cindy.

Name: Philip Gormley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Rye, NY
Time: 1999-12-08 02:39:15
Comments: Keep up the worthy cause, and know many are behind you. Tks Phil

Name: Caitlin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Iowa
Time: 1999-12-07 02:42:40
Comments: Hi! I heard about your page from my sister that read your book! In social studies we are doing debates, and I picked a debate about how bad milk is! And everybody thinks that i am crazy for saying that milk is bad for you! I know what you can get calcium from i just need to know how much calcium is in milk! If you can help me with this please e-mail me! Thanks

Name: Julie Ostoich
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sacramento, CA
Time: 1999-12-07 02:22:22
Comments: I grew up on cow's milk. I was constantly at the doctor's for ear infections (lots of penicillin) & suffered terribly with allergies. When I gave up dairy, my allergies decreased dramatically & my immune system improved greatly. If I drink milk now, the glands in my throat swell, my ears get clogged and I feel like I'm getting a cold. My son who will be 2 in February was breast fed for 14 months and has not been given milk. He is extremely healthy and has not been sick at all. Other friend's babies in contrast have had ear infections, colds and congestion regularly....why? Because they get cow's milk. I have argued with allergist's about this and they insist that milk doesn't effect allergies, etc. I say the proof is in the pudding...non-dairy that is. My family thrives on soymilk & rice milk.

Name: Todd
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: CT
Time: 1999-12-05 21:36:04
Comments: Thanks for the information.

You are most welcomed. Please pass it around.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Ladislav
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Toronto, Ontario
Time: 1999-12-05 09:15:18
Comments: My simple Milk test: When living as a child in Europe, any milk left overnight in the glass, the next day you could drink it as a buttermilk... When in Canada/USA:The milk left in the glass overnight, the next day, you could not drink it! IT MAKES YOU VOMIT! But milk is not the only item, which is in hands of people, who for money , would sell the future of their countrymen! ( The poisoning motives are unclear to me, and by the time we will find it out, it will be too late for many people! ) Beside the "Milk Board", there are other "Boards", which should deserve your attention! Try: " Egg, Wheat, Orange, Apple , Chicken, Beef " etc...Boards....which CONTROL the production / and the MARKET of these items.... and consider, how much the farmers are paid for the lb., or quart... and for how much it is sold on the market. To close 100 small farms a day in USA in 1998, must be saying something! Probably, the best question HERE would be: WHAT IS GOING ON?

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: minnesota
Time: 1999-12-04 05:27:30
Comments: is the government, dairy, schools, and hospitals all in the milk selling business? why? we went to our first birthing doctor visit, and I told the guy how is lactose, ILGH, and caesin healthy for humans? and he basically skirted the question. no real answers. do the doctors know? don't we need calcium and magnesium in the same food, so it goes through the body at the same time?

Name: Karen Busse
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Time: 1999-12-03 22:55:18
Comments: :)

Name: Gordon Wayne Watts
Website: Gordon Watts tells of threats and abuses of Social Security
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Plant City and Lakeland (near Tampa), Florida
Time: 1999-12-02 02:50:12
Comments: Robert and Friends, Thanks for getting the word out concerning milk. *** I admit !!! *** that I did not know that cow's milk that one might buy from the store was bad, but, as MANY scientific studies show, it is . (PS: I looked up them studies just to make sure. * I also examined them closely with a scientific eye.) * ***---> On my Web Page is... ...information on HEALTH: A user-friendly focus on WHY cow's milk and NutraSweet (Aspartame) are bad. ...on WEALTH: The US Government admits that Social Security will go Bankrupt -- and only be able to pay ~ 77% of benifit by the year 2029 or 2030 !!! ...More HEALTH: Documentation (or allegations ???) of Human Limb Regeneration -- of documented cases of finger-tips growing back. (Don't try this yourself.) ...ROMANCE: Science tells us that the dating services do right by using the "things-in-common" approach -- and that the "opposites attract" method is bad. ALSO: honesty and discipline are factors, as well as genetic makeup, blood type (concerning Hemolytic Disease of the Newborn for Rh-incompatibility immune system rejection by the mother), and environment. SPIRITUAL: I give credit to my sponsors -- including that guy who created the dinosaurs -- So, you see, I ** really ** am ** trying to do good in a lot of areas. Oh, did I say "guy?" I meant 'guys' !!! Why ??? Because... ...they are PLURAL (see Genisis 1:26) "Let **us** [plural] make man in **our** [plural] image..." (from the King James Version of the HOLY BIBLE, emphesis mine). OH, can I forget that one last scripture for you Bible buffs? --- (HEBREWS 5:13) "Everyone that useth milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe." (KJV) http://hometown.aol.com/gww1210 or ... http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~gww1210

Name: Mitzi
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Arcadia, Ne
Time: 1999-12-01 21:50:50
Comments: this is a neat website My Chiropractor was right about milk it isn't that good for you but i can't stop drinking it though it's just a habit

Ah...ha! You are like million of folks who got addicted to
something... tobacco, aspartame, alcohol, etc.... but YOU have decided
that milk IS a taste to die for!


Not me... when I learned the truth I quite cold turkey (the only way
to really quit anything) but the "horse" had already escaped the barn.

At 55 my I leaned I had prostate cancer that had already spread (most
likely fueled by so many years consuming literally tons of cow's milk and
dairy). However, by at least removing that fuel it will slow it down
and give me a few more years with my family.

I DO wish I could turn back the clock ten or more years to receive the
health-restoring (perhaps life-saving) information YOU chose to ignore.
I do love life, my wife and children... and I would treasure a FIRST
chance
.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Rebecca Wittman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Waterville, NY
Time: 1999-12-01 20:44:00
Comments: Good luck fighting the good fight, but I fear that you will not be successful. I have been a vegetarian for more than fifteen years (vegan for about one) and I mostly feel depressed about the fate of the human race and the planet. I tell everyone who asks why I went vegetarian, then vegan, and it seems to fall on deaf ears. I hope and pray that you are successful.

Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-11-30 16:03:04
Comments: One of the guestbook entries pointed to this source of information about rBST http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~ear/CORBST.html. You pointed out that the report was written by employees of Monsanto. It is clear just from reading it that it is biased. At one point they are claiming that the amount of IGF-1 in the milk is the same as in human saliva and therefore the level is safe. This is the biggest load of balony I have ever heard. The difference is that the IGF-1 in your saliva is naturally occurring and your body regulates the levels. You do not stop producing saliva when you drink milk (to my knowledge anyway). Therefore the levels in milk are increasing the levels in your body above what your body naturally produces. IGF-1 is not a toxin or a poison - it's a hormone and naturally occurrs in us. Just because it is present in our saliva does not make it safe to consume.

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: minnesota
Time: 1999-11-29 06:49:47
Comments: how do you handle a total difference of opinion about this matter of non dairy vs dairy? in other words, if your wife believes dairy could not possibly cause all these horrible things, and so consumes dairy and is planning on feeding our baby dairy, while the husband accepting the truth that dairy is not advertising about it's harmfull affects, doesn't want dairy to be even in the house? in laments terms, how does a non dairy husband get allong with a dairy wife without fighting about nutrition and what's good for our health? any ideas on how I can prove that dairy is not meant for humans? I do think others are in my same situation...

Easy enough. Get the facts and present them to her.

1. How many woman does she know that breast fed their newborn?
... Why did they STOP?

2. What other species of mammals consumes the juices of a different
mammal?

3. If she isn't a newborn calf, why is she consuming cow's milk?

Of course, you could always give her a copy of "Milk, the Deadly Poison"
as an excellent Christmas gift!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: wren wagner
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: santa barbara ca.
Time: 1999-11-29 05:25:44
Comments: Hello, Great site! I've known about milk but not so much in detail, Thanks for this sit. Maybe everyone will wise up!!Yeah!!

Name: Kerstin Petrus
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: The Netherlands
Time: 1999-11-29 02:08:52
Comments: Horrible. What is NOT wrong with food the last few years!!. Antibiotics are everywhere, cows are eating sheep, fruits and vegetables are poisened. It's making me sick (what's in a word)

One can wash fruits and vegetables grown organically in good soil, and
have an excellent and safe food source. Same holds true with grains and
nuts.

People don't realize that when they get something undesirable on fresh
plants... it is TIMES ONE. When they consume milk and meats it is
concentrated... by the number of times the critter ate before some part
of it entered the food chain. Dairy, on the other hand, is FURTHER
concentrated: it takes 10 lbs. of milk for 1 lb. of hard cheese,
12 lbs. for ice cream, and 21 lbs. for butter (positive side to
the 100% fat in butter... no hormones or allergens, just 21x the
toxins).

However, it is impossible to remove the toxins (herbicides, pesticides,
residual antibiotics, dioxins... and any other "stuff") buried in the
milk/dairy/meats. Of course, the fat and cholesterol are not
desirable, either.

The path to a better and safer diet is quite evident.

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster

Name: David Irwin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-11-28 04:56:00
Comments: I always enjoy your site. I haven't been following it recently. Have you read the article by Miller and McBean in The Journal of the American Dietetic Association? Everyone is quoting it as gospel. It claims that very few people are genuinely Lactose Intolerant (by a narrow definition) and warns against harmful scaremongering. It even includes a rationed diet to slowly incease your tolerance for milk until once again you can drink a pint a day! Miller, of course, is vice-president of nutrition research at the NDC. No special interest there.

Name: Jamie
Website:
Referred by: AngelFire
From: PA
Time: 1999-11-24 08:35:04
Comments: This whole situation is out of control. Get over yourselves people it was just an ad. Stop trying to get attention for any reason whatsoever.

Name: Kerry Wordsworth
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Brisbane Australia
Time: 1999-11-21 02:02:57
Comments: Profit...greed...profit.....we're feed bull....T, from our dairy industries and governments....for the almighty dollar! The fittest people are the no meat no dairy guys!....me being one. My greatest wish is for all to be properly educated on REAL nutrition...not whats good for the powers that be!

Name: xjeremyx
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: maine
Time: 1999-11-20 07:55:59
Comments: vegans rock. so do teddy bears. all hail chocolate soy milk!

Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minnesota
Time: 1999-11-20 00:48:20
Comments: Who came up with the idea that pregnant women need to drink 64 ounces of dairy milk a day for the health of the baby to be? If I ever see him/her, I'd like to ring their neck. a friend of my wifes says you need to swim in a lake of cows milk to be healthy. If the mom breast feeds, but still drinks dairy milk, does this find its way into the breast milk? Is organic dairy better, or is it just less bad? It's hard standing up for something you believe in in the face of people, even your wife, who totally disagree with you. but it builds character. It gives you a certain unshakable confidence, which most people respect. Dont every grow weary in well doing.

Name: Joanna
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Nebraska
Time: 1999-11-19 05:28:59
Comments: Wonderful information that the public needs to know! My son has a severe dairy allergy, and my entire family has been much healthier after eliminating dairy products and turning to soy. So many health benefits from plants vs. all the risks with dairy: the choice is a no brainer for us! Keep up the good work!

Name: Tom Williams
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: West Paris,ME
Time: 1999-11-19 00:42:32
Comments: It seems like it is time to initiate a nation-wide, maybe a world-wide consumer boycott of all dairy/dairy-containing foods/products. I'm sure there are dairies out there that strive to be rbGH free, but realistically, how much control do they really have?? Boycotts work!! It hits the deviant corporations where they live - in their bank accounts. How stupid can they be? If they kill off dairy consumers with rbGH, who will buy the product and line their pockets?? I would rather that Mr.Cohen and others organize to impact Monsanto et al. economically instead of jeopardizing his own health and life. Commitment,YES; but live milk-free to fight another day! But, either way, I'm with you.

Name: Elaine
Website: EQUINE MARKET WATCH
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: WORCESTERSHIRE ENGLAND
Time: 1999-11-18 23:13:57
Comments: I'VE KNOWN ABOUT MILK AND MILK PRODUCTS FOR YEARS - COWS MILK IS MEANT FOR CALVES - HUMAN MILK IS FOR HUMANS. Are we the only species to continue drinking milk into adulthood??????? Breast cancer, colon cancer, prostate cancer all these and more will no doubt one day be linked to the intake of hormone packed animal products. Poor little caLves deprived of their birthright by greedy self centred humans. I hope you can spread your findings far, wide and LOUD Elaine

Name: Amy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Nevada
Time: 1999-11-18 03:48:38
Comments: I can't believe what I've learned about cow's milk. I wish there were some way to get the message out - like on a new's program! I've told my family about milk and they all stopped drinking it, but people need to know about this!

Name: Molly
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Transelvania
Time: 1999-11-18 01:06:43
Comments: i am never drinking milk again.

Name: Elaina
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: new york state usa
Time: 1999-11-17 10:21:24
Comments: Finally a place I can go to to get info on the mooo! I've suspected for a while it was the milk making my digestive system whacked, now I know for sure. Problem is I like Milk!!!!!! GREAT SITE, LOVE THE LAYED BACK SET-UP NOT SO FORMAL. MAKES IT A PLACE I WOULD LIKE TO VISIT. UPDATES TO MY E-MAIL WILL BE WELCOMED BY Y'ALL.

Name: Dr. Drumright
Website: Harmony Health Systems
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kansas City, Missouri
Time: 1999-11-17 04:41:44
Comments: Found you referenced in Dr. Whitakers Newsletter. Thanks for the efforts, I am establishing a link to your page at Harmony Health Systems if you have no objections. Darrel D. Drumright DC, FASA

Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1999-11-17 01:18:28
Comments: Powdered milk: just ad nauseum.

Name: Joy Robinson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-11-16 00:54:49
Comments: C! i came, i read, i will consider. j.

Name: Amanda
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Warren, Michigan
Time: 1999-11-15 01:15:44
Comments: Yup. Milk is nasty! I don't like it!

Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1999-11-12 20:47:28
Comments: Re: Coffee Of course, a better idea is to give up coffee altogether, caffeine or not. Coffee drains you of minerals, kills intestinal flora, dehydrates, and harms the digestive tract.

Name: Nancy McShane
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta,Ga.
Time: 1999-11-12 12:22:00
Comments: Greetings, fellow milkless ones!!! Does any one have a great idea for a non-dairy coffee cream? The grocery ones all have casein in them(that stuff seems to be everywhere) Soymilk is too thin and just doesn't whiten enough. I haven't brought myself to give up my decaf yet. Thanks!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nancy,

Many people enjoy RICH'S NON-DAIRY CREAMER. I've read the label, and get a bit nervous by all of those chemicals, yet it's a best-seller, and they use no casein.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tanya R
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Cape Cod MA
Time: 1999-11-12 06:46:07
Comments: Great stuff. What a complete and udder conspiracy! I work in an elementary school where allergies, illnesses, and early puberty abound. Please keep up the good work. The children (and those with cancer and other potentially milk related diseases) of America need you.

Name: Jennifer Burnham
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ohio
Time: 1999-11-11 09:53:09
Comments: My preschooler came home from his first day of school and told me what he learned that day....That milk was "NOT poison"! What are they teaching our children in school! Certainly not the truth.

Name: DENISE BORCHERT
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: CALIFORNIA
Time: 1999-11-11 08:17:04
Comments: THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING SUCH AN IMPORTANT CAUSE AND GETTING THIS INFORMATION TO THE MASSES. I AM BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY. THANKS AGAIN!!!!

Name: Steve Waterman
Website: Steve Waterman's Page
Referred by: Net Search
From: South Thomaston, Maine
Time: 1999-11-11 00:30:40
Comments: Great work, it is an uphill battle, but one worth fighting. Heard you on Sightings on the Radio. Best of luck.

Name: Ruth
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Melbourne Australia
Time: 1999-11-10 18:12:59
Comments: Keep up the good work. Love your page,great information,

Name: Rosie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: London,England
Time: 1999-11-08 22:36:53
Comments: Wot an excellent site! Thoroughly interesting, easy-2-use & fun! Thank you... I'll B back!

Name: Erica kucera
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: Australia
Time: 1999-11-08 11:13:39
Comments: interested in learning more on this subject

Name: Candice
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 1999-11-06 12:57:09
Comments: The other day I was in a store and I picked up a copy of Nickelodeon magazine because it looked interesting, and started paging through it. I was shocked to find just about every page was a milk advertisement. In fact, the whole magazine was one big milk commercial. I shook my head in disgust, and came to this site to see if you were aware of it, and sure enough you are. I guess the dairy industry is after our children now, leading them on with such "fun" propaganda. It appears they are becoming more and more agressive and persistent in their marketing techniques, and everyone is swept away in the "harmless fun", obviously now including children who are especially vulnerable because they cannot yet see things objectively. Doesn't anyone else see anything seriously wrong with this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Candace,

The dairy industry is distributing free copies of a special issue of Nickelodeon Magazine and it's super-saturated with milk mustache ads. This special issue combines previously published articles, including Rugrat stories. The special promotion give-away magazine also includes celebrity milkstache ads featuring Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys, and Jennifer Love Hewitt.

To get a free copy, one merely has to purchase two gallons of pus and hormone-filled milk!

Some 4.5 million copies of this magazine have been distributed to 15,000 supermarkets nationwide in specially designed milk displays.

Will moms be able to resist this freebie offer?

GOT DIABETES?

Early exposure to bovine proteins has been linked as a causative factor to infant insulin dependant diabetes mellitus.

This special issue of Nickelodeon Magazine will include an ad that shows little Tommy Rugrat wearing a chocolate milk mustache.

Nickelodeon’s advice to moms: GOT MILK for your infants?

My advice to moms with kids with diabetes: GOT ATTORNEYS?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Staci Hardy
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Indiana
Time: 1999-11-05 05:03:37
Comments: Nice, informative site. Thanks.

Name: Me
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-11-04 16:52:34
Comments: Mmmm, milk and dairy products. Mmm, cow exploitation!!!!

Name: Raenna Peiss
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Michigan, Detroit area
Time: 1999-11-02 02:49:19
Comments: I've signed this once before, but it's been so long that I may as well be new! I want to say that it irks me the way people attack both this site and you, Mr. Cohen, personally. They spout a lot of venom, say you're a quack, call your information "garbage," and yet they have nothing to back themselves up with. I've read your research and it looks pretty thorough and well-documented to me.

I've been a vegetarian for a few years, vegan for not quite as long. I made the switch initially for religious reasons, then started doing research and discovered all the health reasons, not to mention ecological reasons. Let me tell you, I used to get colds regularly. I can't remember the last cold I had since eliminating animal products from my diet.

Also let me digress slightly and say that if your DIET excludes animal products, that makes you a strict vegetarian. If your LIFESTYLE excludes animal products, *then* you're a vegan. I am vegan because I also avoid wool, leather, honey, basically ANYTHING that ever had to do with an animal.

Anyways, I'd love to see those who espouse the consumption of animal products to come forth with evidence to support their ravings. Milk has calcium? So does spinach! Meat has protein? Enough about protein! You eat sufficient calories, you get sufficient protein! Too much protein is no good, either. Iron? Green leafy vegetables! Know what rust is? It's oxidized iron. Lettuce has the capacity to rust, so there's a good iron source right there. B12? It's the same story as calcium.... it's not so much what your intake is, but what your output is. Our bodies produce B12 and calcium. We lose it when we eat the wrong things. We use it more efficiently when we eat the right things (and maintain a healthy general lifestyle which includes exercise) so we need less intake to counterbalance our output.

What kind of pro-dairy argument is "My kids will miss out on a nice glass of chocolate milk"? With so many milk substitutes and alternatives out there, that is such a moot point! I regularly enjoy a nice glass of vegan chocolate milk (and vegan hot chocolate)

As they said in ancient Rome, Mr. Cohen:
Non illegitimi carborundorum
Don't let the bastards grind you down!

 

)O(     Blessed Be!
Raenna Peiss


Name: Joan C. Wilson
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Ohio
Time: 1999-10-30 04:14:12
Comments: I am doing a presentation in November about milk vs soymilk and need information and questions to work with an audience of adults. Enjoy your site!

Name: Cathy Pearlman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Chicago,IL
Time: 1999-10-29 06:11:30
Comments: My 10 year old daughter brought home a flier which described a "milk awareness" promotion for her entire school. The class which had the most students buying milk for every day in November, would win a cookie and milk party! In addition, the school would be awarded a computer by the Wisconsin Dairy Council for participating. The school regards this promotion as a good thing because it is "educational". I was very suspicious of this promotion and saw it as a consumer push. I can't believe that there aren't more parents voicing a concern about our children being used to line the pockets of big business. I did a web search on "dairy" and that is how I came to realize just how BIG the dairy industry is! Then I came across the NOTMILK webpage, thank god! It validated everthing for which my husband and I take a stand. Thank you! We Listen to National Public Radio and we haven't had a TV in our house for about 4 years. We are not slaves to TV propaganda. Sounds radical? We're just aware folks. Thank you for providing this space for comment.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cathy,

Ask the school if they would allow the NOTMILMAN the opportunity to conduct an assembly. We can have our own educational experience and I'll donate a computer to the school, matching the bribe from the dairy industry.

Tell them we'll hold a contest and see if we can get the kids to eat an apple a day!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nabee Aniwodi-EL
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta
Time: 1999-10-27 23:15:06
Comments: This website is very informative and thorough.

Name: Vincent D. Bibb
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Bronx, NY
Time: 1999-10-27 18:47:48
Comments: I was watching a t.v. program on cable television where you were talking about the dangers of milk. What really caught my attention was the part about the glue in milk called CASEIN. That was a turning point for me and I have stopped drinking milk. Thank you for the information. I am a black male and the info. you gave was righteous.

Name: D Selvon
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Calgary,Canada
Time: 1999-10-27 09:50:30
Comments: I am still a milk drinker although one of my daughters is dairy free. This is a very interesting site and it has given me more information in making my decision to give up dairy products. It's hard to break a habit you've been on your entire life! I admire people who are strong enough to make that choice and hope someday to be amongst them.

Name: Christina Marie Adams
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Springfield, Illinois
Time: 1999-10-27 02:25:54
Comments: I found this web page while doing research on the dangers of dairy. I am very impressed with the amount and credibility of the information i have found. Thanks for all of the help!

Name: Rodolfo Palma-Lulion
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Santiago, Chile
Time: 1999-10-26 08:28:19
Comments: Thank you so much for making this page. With your help we can help make this world a better place for humans and cows; who knows, perhaps this will aide people in going Vegan and helping themselves and all life -plants included.

Name: Marc Riese
Website:
Referred by: Geocities
From: Halifax, NS
Time: 1999-10-26 03:19:30
Comments: Without milk, where would we be? In the dark-ages, fella! Milk and milk-related knowledge is responsible for our material and technological wealth. You're from the past, and I represent the future.

      Ummm... Yet another bogus Email address!

   Gee... Marc, you sure didn't read much, did you!

   Your "future" is being foretold by the contents of all cow's milk you
so blindly prefer to consume:

   59 active hormones (the most powerful of which is Insulin-like Growth
Factor ONE [IGF-1] which is identical between cows and humans... and
pinpointed by the medical establishment as being THE cause of rapid
growth and proliferation of breast, colon and prostate cancers... soon
to include ALL cancers), 100 allergens (perhaps the worst is casein, 80%
of the protein in milk, a powerful histamine [mucus maker] which is
better used as furniture glue), herbicides, pesticides, traces of up to
52 powerful antibiotics, fat, cholesterol, blood, feces (yeah... the
real stuff), dioxin's (and anything else the cow ate), along with an US
FDA allowance of up to 20,000,000 LIVE bacteria and 750,000,000 somatic
cells (we call it "PUS") per liter. Oh... yeah, you are from Canada.
The EU and Canada trim the pus cells per liter down to only 400,000,000.

   What does this wonder beverage do for you?

   It figures strongly in heart disease, cancer, obesity, diabetes,
asthma, allergies, behavioral problems, digestive problems, elimination
problems, osteoporosis, and more... all the way down to zits.

   That is just cow's milk. It takes ten pounds of milk to make one
pound of cheese, and 21 pounds of milk to make one pound of butter. You
do the math, OK?

   Bon appetite... and enjoy! I learned too late to prevent my
prostate cancer... but I can vouch from a once-trusting consumer that
cow's milk and dairy is NOT something to die for.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim

Name: Jaymya
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington Park, Illinois
Time: 1999-10-25 22:21:08
Comments: Please email me more info!! :)

Dear Jaymya,

There is so much information on the notmilk website. Check the archives. Read the last two years of weekly columns and daily squirts of notmilk wisdom.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: debradarby
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: boston ma
Time: 1999-10-25 21:34:01
Comments: I listened to your tape this week-end. i thought that it was good. some of the information i already knew ( ie the growth hormone) was bad for goood health. Soo, I started to buy "organic milk" products. I must admit it didn't dawn on me that organic milk also contained growth hormone and maybe other not so nice additives. There goes the theory that organic milk is better. Fortunately for me and my family we no longer drink milk. However we do enjoy cheese, yogurt, butter and ice cream. I think that we will be giving these things up shortly. Oh by the way, thank-you for your tape.

Name: Pat TOZER
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia
Time: 1999-10-23 05:36:26
Comments: I am a woman of 65 years of age, of only recent date I find I am alergic to ALL milk products. Should I inadvertantly eat or drink one of the milk products in a very short time I suffer from severe stomach pains etc...any genuine advise would be welcome....Pat

Dear Pat,

You have identified the problem, and in doing so, have also discovered the cure. My advice is quite simple:

NOTMILK!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Karl Meyers
Website: KSM Enterprises On-Line Shopping Mall and Idea Store
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Auburn California
Time: 1999-10-22 12:21:49
Comments: I have been publishing your link for about two years now at KSM1.COM. My site is dedicated to good health and excellent nutrition. It is not only important to know about the danger of drinking milk, it is also important to reduce your risk of cancer, stroke and heart disease by losing weight. With seven out of ten Americans overweight, we have an epidemic of obesity. My goal is to educate people with facts, and show them a way to get healthy, and stay that way. I am also collecting data on this subject for a confidential study I am doing. If you want to lose weight, or improve your health, complete my survey at www.ksm1.com/getskinny.html. Thank you for doing this service. Together, we can change America, one person at a time.

Name: Paul Howard
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: I live in Philadelphia.
Time: 1999-10-20 05:41:49
Comments: I was just wondering what you think we should do with cows. You've made it clear that we should not have them domesticated for the purpose of taking milk, and I think you've also indicted that you're against the eating of cows themselves. So lets assume that people stop using cows to fulfill these desires. What happens to the cows? Do we set them all free to roam wild? Do we keep them as pets? Do we declare open season for hunters? Do we make them infertile and force them to extinction? I am very curious to hear what your opinion is on this matter. Sincerely, Paul Howard

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Paul,

The answer to your question is quite simple. If animal rights activists have their way and animals no longer perform in circuses, zoos, or serve as food on our plates, then there will one day be fewer abused animals. That results in a world in which there are no more domesticated cows, chickens or pigs. Will the average American miss these gentle creatures?

When is the last time you saw one of the above? These are not happy critters, Paul, and their pain should simply not continue.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Ummm. Sort of a parallel to too many nuclear weapons, eh?

Closer to home... similar to too many billions of dollars worth
of price-supported milk/dairy, tobacco, etc.

The only difference is the cows are, thanks to the dairy industry
in OVER POPULATION, and that fault rests with their lies, deceit,
and greed... all aided and abetted by the USDA and a lot of other
government officials.

The dairy farmer already takes care of the weaker bovines... see the
"daily squirt" for 20 October, 1999.

Considering the track record for tobacco, and our governments continued
involvement in its viability (price supports) I submit that it will take
a LONG time for people to get off milk/dairy/beef (if ever). I doubt there
is any problem there, Paul. Too many folks are "hooked" on bad substances
(aspartame, MSG, milk/dairy, meats, etc.) and would rather die... then ignore
their acquired taste buds.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: Ann Krebs
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Worcester, MA
Time: 1999-10-20 05:29:33
Comments: I have stopped using most milk products in February and am now trying to eliminate all products made with milk.

Name: Philip J, Fogarty
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Southern California
Time: 1999-10-19 02:20:38
Comments: First, I found out about you on an L.A. Radio Interview! I've been a half-gallon+ milk drinker all my life! Age 65, I have TypeII diabetes. At my place of employment a year ago, mobile Bone Scanners told me that I had osteoporosis, especially bad in the hips and to drink more milk! I told them the anount of milk that I already consumed and that my Doctor (Alternative Medicine) told me that milk was not a good source of Calcium. They expressed their surprise at such an idea. Two weeks later I fell and broke a hip! By the way, the same Doctor warned me that use of Soy substitutes can cause Thyroid problems, and must be monitored.

Name: spiggy
Website: vegan or die
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: the beautiful denton, texas
Time: 1999-10-18 03:36:24
Comments: why would i want to drink milk from cows (which is mostly water) that contains bleach because the cows are milked until they BLEED????

Name: Kraeg MacKenzie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 1999-10-16 22:13:42
Comments: I've been around for awhile, but no, I didn't grow up on a dairy farm. I'm glad I didn't; milking cows, and slaughtering veal Calfs. I love soy milk. And soy cheese. And soy ice cream. Actually, I love all things fake-dairy and fake-beef, because Cows don't have to suffer. Cows are also my favorite animals, which is okay, 'cause being a vegan that doesn't make me a hypocrite. There is a cruel reason for everything done on a farm the way it is accomplished.... what-evever the heck THAT means! I love all Cows; I even love the neighbor's cows. That's why I save them from the slaughter, unlike those OTHER hypocrites.... I have never had a page irritate me so much as the Beef and Dairy pages. It is fine that some people will read their "information" and decide that milk is right for them... then drink it and die... but what about the poor animals? And the poor children? The kids will not have opportunity to enjoy a life free of poisonous, mucous-inducing milk. I think it is wrong that Marissa blames everything anti-dairy on the NotMilkMan, and I can't help but wonder, "Was she shat upon as a child?" Well..... were you, Marissa, you pathetic Dairy Industry pawn??

Name: Christopher Clark
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York City
Time: 1999-10-15 23:04:27
Comments: I totally agree with your assessment. I am letting all my friends know of the danger of milk. Thank you for your help.

Name: Marissa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Central Wisconsin
Time: 1999-10-14 22:41:47
Comments: I've been around for awhile, and yes I grew up on a dairy farm. I've raised veal, milked many cows, and yes, even helped butcher. I love milk. And cheese. And ice cream. Actually, I love all things dairy and beef. Cows are also my favorite animals. There is a good reason for everything done on a farm the way it is accomplished. We loved our cows; I even loved the neighbor's cows. I have never had a page irritate me so much. It is fine that some people will read your "information" and decide that milk isn't right for them...but what about their children? They will not have opportunity to enjoy a big cold glass of chocolate milk on a late summer evening. I think it is wrong that you blame everything on cows and I can't help but wonder, "Were you peed on as a child?"

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Marissa,

You were doing so well, but you kind of lost it at the end, huh?

You "loved" your cows? Is that with or without Bordelaise sauce?

If we ever meet, would you kindly explain to me the part about how you love cows, and they are your favorite animals, and that you slaughter them and eat their flesh. Which part of the slaughter process is your favorite? Do you like when they look at you with their big trusting brown eyes, or is your favorite part the moment when you cut their throats and watch them die?

Do you like dogs too?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Peed on? Ummm... more like crapped on by a ignorant industry
which was made worse by a culpable government. The FDA is
steeped in rubber stamping unhealthy industrial output and
congress is too busy raking in the donations from industry.

I was born in Wisconsin, Marissa, which is why I am confused
that you do not comprehend that a steady diet of 59 hormones,
100 allergens, herbicides, pesticides, dioxin's, up to 52
antibiotics, fat, cholesterol, blood, feces, and an FDA allowance
of up to 20 MILLION live bacteria and 750,000,000 somatic cells
(did you know the layman's term for this is "PUS"?) per liter...
is not a desirable beverage. Tasty, perhaps. A beverage to DIE
for, no!


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: Leslie Howard
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Pennslyvania
Time: 1999-10-13 22:47:54
Comments: I do admire your bringing attention to the horrible things that are being given and done to cows. What I see as missing, however, is that it is humans and not cows that are the problem. Perhaps we can learn something from the very wise souls whose words have come to us through India. The cow is one of our mothers. She does not mind giving us milk and it is perfectly healthy for us to injest it in the proper ways (hot and not cold for example) in it's whole and natural state, coming from a happy cow. It is said that the evolution of a society can be judged by the manner in which cows are treated. The most spiritually evolved societies honor the cow and her products as well as the service of the oxen and bull.

It is very difficult to eat a balanced vegan diet. It takes considerable effort. It is not very difficult to have a balanced, healthy diet as a vegetarian that eats dairy and not eggs. Milk is probably the most nectarian substances available here on earth. It is our duty as stewards of this planet to see to it that the cow is honored and protected. Jaya Radhe!

Love Always,

littlebird Leslie

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Littlebird Leslie,

The average dairy cow in India yields just three quarts of milk each day, while American cows yield 24 quarts per animal. Our bovines have been bred to be steroid-producing monsters, and our milk is loaded with powerful hormones.

If the cow is our gentle mother, then the horse must be our gentle father. GOT HORSE MILK?

The skunk is most certainly my gentle brother-in law, and the pig is my uncle. Why not enjoy milk from all animals?

The wisdom of the ancient Indian Ayurvedics permitted them to boil milk, then skim off the fat and use it as ghee. Hundreds of years ago the ghee was mixed wih psychadelic substances to produce soma. Every generation has its Ben & Jerrys!

Last week, the world welcomed its six-billionth inhabitant, and India welcomed its one-billionth. With pus and bacteria in milk, India might very well consider raw milk to be an effective means of population control. The average Indian does not live beyond the age of 60.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: jonathan shutt
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: West Covina, California
Time: 1999-10-12 12:50:50
Comments: What a bunch of liberal BS.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jonathan,

First of all, it's CS, not BS.

CS is what pollutes our streams and waterways. The largest E coli and salmonella outbreaks were traced to CS this past summer. CS is what often drips down the legs of Johne's-infected bovines, in the form or diarrhea, mixing and blending delicate tastes and essences into your beverage of choice.

Second, like most of my critics, you have no specific point to "attack." I have made tens of thousands of statements, backed up by over a thousand studies on the notmilk site. I invite you to pick out just on specific point that you disagree with.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Hardly liberal, and so far removed from BS (or CS) as to warrant being
classified as the "whole truth, and nothing BUT the truth!".

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: Hans Weimar
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Bavaria
Time: 1999-10-09 05:52:37
Comments: My Brother Klaus gave me your electric location. I agree with You that drinnking the Milk with the Hormones is not pleasant. I most rather prefer drinking hormones "straight up" as it were. I find that milk dilutes the pleasantry of the Taste of hormones, and adds kgs to my weight. Hormones on ice is nice too.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Hans and Klaus,

You've forgotten to add:

"Tastes great, and it's less filling!"

Auf Wiedersehen,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Thomas Goss
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington State
Time: 1999-10-08 10:20:13
Comments: EXCELLENT site. You do the world a great service, and should be quite proud. By providing the unbiased scientific evidence, you give anyone with an open mind and any amount of real courage the means to achieve better health. The message is getter louder. More and more people are becoming vegan because all roads (nutrition, environment, animal suffering, etc.) seem to lead to veganism. GO VEGAN!

Name: ellameitte taraborrelli
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: pennsylvania
Time: 1999-10-08 05:06:30
Comments: i think the page is great! there is soooo much i didn't know : thanks for the info! ill pass it on to others!

Name: john zink
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: laguna niguel, ca
Time: 1999-10-07 03:48:01
Comments: heard you this morning on kbac

Name: Nell C. Buckner
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 1999-10-06 22:27:08
Comments: Thank you for having a site completely dedicated to educating people about the dangers of milk. Being a vegan is the healthiest way to live. Why do people think it is appropriate to drink the mammary product of some animals? Even animals don't comsume milk after a certain young age. A vegetarian who drinks milk and eats dairy products is like a vegetarian who eats meat. Why avoid meat for ethical reasons if you're going to drink milk and contribute to the suffering of cows anyway? Just give it all up. Help to save the billions of animals who are tortured and then murdered for your selfish eating pleasure.

Name: Cloyd Knavel
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Oil City Pa.
Time: 1999-10-06 09:24:14
Comments: Hi. After listening to you on the local radio..I got to thinking. My brother inlaw and his son drink at least 5 to 6 gallons of milk a week. His son, is always companing. He is sick all the time. Allergies they say. I believe there must be some thing to what you say. Thank You. Cloyd Knavel

Name: Klaus Weimar
Website: N,A
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Bavaria
Time: 1999-10-06 06:46:58
Comments: So, what gives? You don't like milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

What gave you that impression, Klaus?

My family loves milk! Every morning I milk the Dobermans and give everybody a tall glass of their creamy milk.

We make an aromatic cheese from the milk we get from our horses, and we place a thick wedge of that cheese on our lunch sandwiches.

We milk the pigs in late afternoon, and mix their milk with an equal amount of white sugar. We freeze the concoction and enjoy ice cream from their body fluids.

We keep about a dozen cats pregnant year-round, so that we can enjoy their milk in the form of yogurt which we ferment overnight.

We also buy human breast milk which we enjoy with cookies before retiring for the evening.

HOWEVER, we avoid cow's milk because of the dangerous presense of insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I). We all know that IGF-I in cow's milk is identical to IGF-I in the human body, and that hormone is the key factor in breast, prostate, and lung cancer.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cheri A. Jackson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington State
Time: 1999-10-05 23:36:08
Comments: I have been a juvenile-onset diabetic for 33 years. One month ago, I became a vegan. I am very happy so far with the way I feel. Now I just have to persuade my doctor and probably my dietician that I am doing the right thing. Thank you for the wonderful information on the web site. Cheri

Name: Sungal
Website: Health By Design
Referred by: From a Friend
From: the great Northwest
Time: 1999-10-03 00:49:45
Comments: Dear Robert, Your site is wonderful in every way. In a time when there are few heroes around...you stand out as a terrific role model reminding us that standing up for truth is possible and that it is worth the effort. I just wanted to say Bravo and thank you. I truly appreciate everything you have done to help educate and provide a source of important information on this hidden subject.

Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1999-10-01 20:55:19
Comments: Friends, you might not believe there is a connection here, but after just 2 weeks off dairy, I have almost NO LINT in my belly button when I take off my shirt in the evening. (All other nutritional factors remaining the same.) I think I now know what that "lint" REALLY is!! Thank you, NOTMILK!! - BT, Topeka KS

My colleagues, family, and friends all say I look much healthier but the first thing they usually notice is the fresh fine hair growth on my earlobes! Why did I wait so long to make the change and give up the goo???! - TW, Baton Rouge LA

I would like to share the wonderful experience I've had since visiting your site last year and quickly giving up dairy. Two months ago I finally found a house to buy, after living in a dusty old apartment with my mother for 12 years! I'm thrilled!! Also my bowel habits have vastly improved. So thank you NOTMILK!!!! -CS, Worcester, MA


Name: Mikay
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Florida
Time: 1999-10-01 10:31:19
Comments: hi rob.....love the site. i have been vegetarian for 22 years and only gave up dairy products 5 months ago. i wish i had given them up 22 years ago with the meat. i used to have really bad bronchitis and it has now disappeared completely. my sister's child had ear infections for 2 years and i told her to take him off dairy products and sent her your page. guess what? you guessed it, no more ear infections. i wish the rest of world would come to thier senses and stop with all the dairy products, especially the parents giving it to thier children. it's awful, just awful.

Name: Dr. Unruh
Website: www.thecnr.com
Referred by: From a Friend
From: USA
Time: 1999-09-28 22:56:43
Comments: I am a specialist who works all over the world helping handicapped children and their families. None of the children under my care drink animal milk or eat products made from animal milk. The improvements are impressive specially in children who suffer from Autism, Down Syndrome. Learning and Attention Problems as well as Brain Injury. I have accumulated an large body of evidence including scientific articles, books and case studies that will serve to document my position and I plan to publish my 20 reasons not to touch the stuff as soon as time permits. To me, it is rat poison so please do not drink it and do not give it to your children. Most of the world does not drink milk and in many ways survive better than we do.

Name: Melissa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kentucky
Time: 1999-09-27 20:00:16
Comments: Hi! Just wanted to let you know that I just bought your book a week ago. So far, it is very good! I have been dairy-free for about 3 months now, and I feel wonderful. Also, I took your advice in a newsletter about a month ago about the Gardenburgers. I tried one for the first time this weekend, and I like them. Thanks!

Name: Amanda
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Utah
Time: 1999-09-26 22:36:01
Comments: Congratulations on such a great site! I haven't had any animal products for over ten years and I have a five year old daughter who has been vegan since birth. We don't have to deal with sickness and excess mucus like other people and both feel great. My daughter can't understand why people would drink milk meant for baby calves. I can't believe how many people have been brainwashed into thinking they must consume the milk of another species and go through adulthood never being weaned. Keep up the good work spreading the truth!

Thank you. But it is really "our" work (as in all citizens with a conscience) to
help the rest of the citizens learn the truth. Please do talk it up, pass around a URL
or even a flyer or two.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: L. B
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Massachusetts
Time: 1999-09-26 20:40:52
Comments: I really don't get the site. I mean some people like milk and some people don't, you don't have t make such a big deal about how bad people are if they do drink milk

We state that people are bad if they drink milk??? Where?

We state that MILK is bad (59 hormones, 100 allergens, herbicides,
pesticides, fat, cholesterol, up to 52 antibiotics, blood, feces (yea,
the real "stuff"), virus, up to 20 MILLION live bacteria and 750,000,000
somatic cells (we call that "pus") PER LITER (a bit more than a
quart). And their is MORE!!! (check out "prions")


You seem to have missed this important message.

We say that those who PROMOTE milk (including the USDA) are not telling
the truth about cow's milk and dairy... and that it harms each and every
consumer.

Then we provide a wealth of proof from a variety of sources.

On your next visit... please consider opening your eyes and reading a
bit of what we provide .... for free. You might even consider becoming
responsible for your words... by providing a valid Email address!


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim

Name: Heather Daugherty
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Blanchard, Michigan
Time: 1999-09-25 17:45:20
Comments: I am so happy to find out that I am not crazy! When my son, now 6 years old, was younger he suffered terribly from ear infections and asthma so I took him off of all dairy products. Suprise he became well! When I had to move back to the house I was raised in with my mother and grandmother they simply could not believe that I was raising my son with out all the "healthy" benefits of meat or dairy and began force feeding him the stuff daily, as you can imagine I was not pleased. He became constantly stuffed with mucus and lived with a tissue in his hand! Needless to say my efforts to educate my elders were less than successful, they thought I was an overzealous freak! When we moved to Michigan I sat down with my son and explained why I did not give him meat or dairy and HE decided that he did not want to eat these things anymore. When, in 2 days, he noticed that he could breathe again he asked me why did his Granny and Grandma make him eat all that stuff? Did they want him to be sick? I am so happy to find your site so that now I can pass this information on to others, I plan to buy a few of copies of your book so that I may at least inform the people that I love. Oh Thank You, Thank You, Thank You

You are most welcomed!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: Lorraine
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: michigan
Time: 1999-09-25 11:08:08
Comments: Its really worring when my daughters high school health book promoted drinking milk, and they then have a key speaker saying that milk is the perfect food to be stuck on a desert island with for its health giving properties. We need more education like this web page please.

What is REALLY needed are a lot more good folks like yourself who
have no problems telling others about what they have learned... and
perhaps pointing a path to the truth:

http://www.notmilk.com or send an empty Email to flyer@notmilk.com

Other articles from the NOTMILK auto-responder:

milk@notmilk.com
consumer@notmilk.com
whatis@notmilk.com
victim@notmilk.com

Regards, Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim

Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1999-09-24 02:16:50
Comments: Dear Robert, The U.S. Justice Dept. has filed suit against the tobacco industry. In part the dept cites the "45 year campaign of deceit to preserve enormous profits whatever the cost in human lives." The DoJ also said that as early as 1953 the tobacco industry realized that the TRUTH would deal a mortal blow to profit. All the same wording could easily be applied to Cow MILK!!!

Name: Renee Azbill
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ohio USA
Time: 1999-09-23 20:30:54
Comments: Great site! Love the recipe links. I have tried many of them. It is hard for me to take out dairy, but your site really helps! Thanks-Renee

Name: Shelli
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Iowa
Time: 1999-09-21 20:53:37
Comments: when I typed in www.imsick.com I meant that I am sick today and then when I saw the cow...i figured it would be a funny page to cheer up sick kids that got to stay home from school today like me. what exactly is the point of your page? I didn't really read anything...but I did look at a few of the guestbook entries. My guess would be that you're trying to say that milk is unhealthy and people shouldn't really drink it. Well ya know...think about all the parents that have little 4 year olds that just will not drink milk and most people think that milk is very healthy and you should never go a day without it. What do you eat or drink to replace the healthy substances in the milk? I know that milk is not my favorite thing to drink, but most people and most parents I know are trying to get their children to drink it more and more. What's so wrong with milk? And again I remind you that I didn't read any articles or facts about milk so I'm going to rely on YOU for the answers to those questions. kappakappa@hotmail.com

Name: Tanya
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-09-21 07:31:45
Comments: Robert--awesome web site. This is SO cool. I'm speechless. I'll e-mail you soon with questions and comments. Bye! Tanya :)

Name: notmilkfan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Michigan
Time: 1999-09-19 00:25:24
Comments: I wonder what will happen when individuals get tired of having cow milk shoved at them, and realize they are being killed in painful deaths by it! Are they going to ban together and sue dairy producers like we saw in the tobacco company lawsuits? Yes, it is a legal substance, too, but it does as much if not more harm than tobacco. (Food for thought!) Keep up the good work, honest notmilkman!!

Name: eponine
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Mass
Time: 1999-09-17 01:43:03
Comments: No one is complaining about Sarah Michelle Gellar's ad by saying that it will make people believe that she's a slayer and she's promoting that there are vampires in our world. Maybe there are, who knows. The point is that these actors are doing a good thing by helping to support milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Eponine,

These actors and actresses are past of the problem!

Sarah Michelle Geller (Buffy) knows that milk and dairy products are unhealthy. As a matter of fact, she does not use them.

In a recent interview in TEEN magazine, Buffy admitted that she has two dietary "no-nos." She does not eat fried foods and she does not drink milk.

I have no love for phonies (like Geller) who know better, and take the money and betray others with an unhelathy message.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Virginia
Website:
Referred by: Geocities
From: Seattle,Washington
Time: 1999-09-17 00:20:05
Comments: I really love your website. It's packed with so much useful info. I think my head's going to explode. Also, did AJ the Backstreet Boy actually sign this or is that another Cohen Industry marketing ploy to get kids to not drink milk? Just a couple Q's but I still love your site.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Virginia,

I thought that Sarah posted that letter as a joke. She's my 13-year-old who will be seeing the Backstreet boys next Friday night when they perform at the Meadowlands in New Jersey.

The actual post was made from a computer with Windows 98, via an AOL account. We do not have a computer with Windows 98. Each guestbook message leaves a unique signature, but we were unable to trace this post.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Takoma Park, MD
Time: 1999-09-14 23:12:20
Comments: There are "seven degrees of separation" between any one person in the world and any other. Now I've heard that any one Web Site is only 19 clicks/links from any other. I wonder what the proximity now is between/among the dairily outraged of the world?!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Noel,

There are zero degrees of separation when it comes to the 100 antigens that every human produces to bovine proteins.

There are also zero degrees of separation when it comes to the 59 different bioactive hormones in every sip of milk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: AJ
Website: My picture
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-09-12 21:35:00
Comments: Your sight is awesome! I am on the road a lot, but when I get home, I plan to explore a vegan lifestyle. COOL!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear AJ,

I know an AJ from the "Backstreet Boys" who did a milk mustache ad for the dairy industry. My daughter Sarah informs me that his favorite food is a double quarter pounder with cheese. If you are that same "AJ," and you convert to a plant-based diet, I'll become your "Perfect Fan!"

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Bernadette Sonefeld
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Littleton, Colorado
Time: 1999-09-12 11:30:57
Comments: Met you at the AVS Conference in Boulder, just showed a copy of your interview on Chan 20 (Focus on Colorado)to a bunch of people at our monthly potluck. We all loved it. Am going to refer a caller to the Veg. Soc. of Colorado, who is doing some research for a paper to your website and material (books, etc.)...thanks for your work in the field! You're a great resource!! (I answer the phone for the Society).

Name: Pam Martin
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Oxford,Alabama
Time: 1999-09-12 07:25:49
Comments: I found this site from Chet Day. I receive his newsletter and he had some information about milk and the dangers of drinking it. I have sent this site to all of my friends. I am in the process of trying to find something to replace the milk products we eat and drink. I have enjoyed the articles and information that is on this site. Thank you for helping us live a healthier life! Pam Martin

Name: Aurora
Website: Youth for the Enviroment Veg*nism and Animal Liberation
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: some planet, in a galixy far far away
Time: 1999-09-12 02:37:25
Comments: I just have to say mate this is a bonza site! I have a small problem though, see im a lacto-ovo veggie, yet in my heart im a vegan. If you can understand that. See my fam wants me to eat cheese and milk and eggs at least. I eat a good diet,its not like im aneroxic god no. One day I wanted Chi, but had no soy milk, (I avoid all dairy n eggs products when nessesary). Any my sis says OH use reg. Milk it won't hurt you! I knew diffrent, but they won't listen. Says I must eat some. I know diffrent. Well im off,if ya reply please also send it email wise. Thanks

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Aurora,

The way I see it, people choose one of two reasons for adopting a plant-based diet. Reason number one is compassion to animals. Reason number two is compassion to your own body.

Animals suffer when we eat their body parts. What might not be obvious, is the suffering to dairy cows. The milk and dairy industry might very well be the cruelest of all farm animal industries. Dairy cows must birth calves to continue producing milk. By continuing to consume milk and dairy products, one must take responsibility for the treatment of veal calves.

Milk and dairy products contain many unhealthy substances. Milk buffers gastric pH so that protein hormones and cholesterol, normally broken down by stomach acid, survive digestion.

Whether it's compassions to animals, or compassion to yourself, I advise all people eating the SAD diet (Standard American Diet) to first give up all milk and dairy products.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Heather Gray
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Atlanta, GA USA
Time: 1999-09-10 16:57:38
Comments: I can't thank you enough for this information on milk. I was actually referred to you by Dr. Sandra Cabot's (Liver Cleansing Diet) assistant in Australia. My mother and I are noiw "cleansing our liver" through this diet. It's wonderful but we needed more explanation about why not dairy products. Thank you Thank you Thank you. I even work for an organization assisting farmers and will need to incorporate some of your information into our work. Please keep me informed. One of my friends is plagued with asthma, is a vegetarian who uses dairy products as her staple, is a scientist (pathologist) herself but has not an inkling of your findings/analysis. I will tell her immmediately! Thanks, thanks! On to better health.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Heather,

Your friend has undoubtedly spend thousands of dollars, seeking relief and a cure from asthma.

Her cure can be summed up in one word: NOTMILK!

CASEIN is a tenacious glue and powerful allergen. Eighty percent of milk protein is CASEIN. Even a sprinkling of Parmesian cheese on pasta can trigger the antibody/antigen response, producing mucous which clogs the bronchioles of the lungs.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Erica L Hudson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Washington, DC
Time: 1999-09-10 06:48:00
Comments: I really enjoyed the websight, and will visit often:)

Name: kitty
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: fl
Time: 1999-09-09 05:30:02
Comments: Hi there, I found your site to be quite interesting. I myself am a milk drinker. I grew up on it and I don't really agree with your views but I respect them. Good luck being vegan.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Thank you for your very nice letter, Kitty. Good luck to you too...for drinking body fluids from diseased animals, and I assume, for eating their hormone and antibiotic filled flesh.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sita
Website: Sita Ka Sansar (Sita's World)
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: India
Time: 1999-09-09 05:13:26
Comments: Dear Notmilkman, It's interesting that several months ago you said you don't like "V" words (vegetarian, vegan), but now you use them freely in your guestbook responses to people. I also noticed that your weekly newsletters are anti-meat as well as anti-dairy. I'm glad you've formed an alliance with the meat protesters as well.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Siva,

I plead GUILTY.

I do hate those "V" words (vegetatian, vegan) and prefer to say that I eat a plant-based diet. Before MY RESPONSE TO POST #1348, I last used a "V" word on July 16, post #1255.

When meat eaters encounter a self-described "vegetarian," they conclude that the person is a little bit strange. Vegan? That word sounds like we're from another planet! When I tell people that I eat a plant-based diet, they seem to understand that it's really a healthy lifestyle and usually do not snicker. Tell 'em you're a vegetarian or vegan and they pre-judge you to be a radical god-hating communist who seeks to overthrow the American government.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rob
Website: MN Scraps
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MN
Time: 1999-09-07 10:26:27
Comments: Heard you on the radio (AM1500 KSTP) a while back and what you said made a lot of sense - I recently stared a diet that cuts out all dairy, and in about 8-10 days I noticed I had lost a nagging caough that I had for as long as I could remember. Before I always felt like I had to clear my throat. Since cutting out the dairy, my cough is all but gone. -Rob

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Rob,

Your experience is not that unusual. Casein (80% of all milk protein) plays a significant role in histamine production and mucous. By eliminating all milk and dairy products, you will continue to discover the secret to great health!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Hothouse
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: California
Time: 1999-09-06 13:23:11
Comments: Thanks so much, I was soo happy being a laco-vegetarian and you had to go a ruin it for me. I don’t think I can look at another glass of milk and not picture and cup of pus. Ick, now I am going to have to find something else to put on my Cheerios in the morning.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Hothouse,

Most vegetarians become so by giving up red meat first, then chicken, then fish. These non-meat eaters are often quite sickly, and an entire lifestyle is judged by their meat-eating peers as being unhealthy.

If one eats the SAD diet (Standard American Diet) and gives up red meat, chances are that the individual will notice little or no difference in his or her body.

Give up all milk and dairy products, and the difference in how one feels in just one week will be significant and convincing!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Emilee Park
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-09-04 00:22:22
Comments: It is really helpful to visit your site. I have a seven month old daughter that I am trying to feed well. I make most of my baby food and am trying to live more natural. Thank you...Emilee

Name: Danielle
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Pa
Time: 1999-09-03 05:26:58
Comments: I am signing this guestbook because i was appalled by some of the accusations made concerning Josh Jackson's milk ad. Although Josh Jackson's character Pacey did have an affair with his english teacher on the show Dawson's Creek, it does not neccessarily imply to teens that the characters' action were right. As a loyal veiwer of the show and a milk drinking teen I can say that the ad had no negative effecton me. If a person had not seen that particular episode of Dawson's Creek, they wouldn't know the meaning of the last line of the milk ad.. They would simply think of it as a teenager endorsing the idea of drinking milk with the possibility of it helping to get an older girl. This is not to say that the girl had to be that much older. The age difference could range from days, weeks, months, or years; though the time frame is not given in the ad. The ad does not say to young teens go have statutory rape with your english teacher and neither does the show. The ad is meaningless to those who haven't seen the episode of Dawson's Creek and those who have seen it know that it was taken care of in a appropriate manner. I hope you will take my thoughts into consideration since I am a teen that drinks milk, saw the ad, and is an avid Dawson's Creek veiwer. The had no effect, think about it. Thank you for your time.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Danielle,

CONGRATULATIONS! Yours is the Last Joshua Jackson comment that will be posted on this guestbook page.

By any chance, are you on your high school debating team?

I would love the opportunity to bring this case to a jury trial.

You are not guilty, and neither is Josh.

The dairy industry took advantage of a situation, and the meaning is clear. They promote something that is morally and ethically wrong and is also a criminal offense, punishable by jail.

End of case.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Anna Hamnes
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Burnie, Tasmania, Australia
Time: 1999-09-02 12:17:15
Comments: Great news, but I worry abount my bones

Dear Anna,

Then treat your bones with compassion, Anna. Continue to get Vitamin D the natural way, by exposing your skin to sunlight for at least five minutes at least once every three days. Continue to exercise. Go for a brisk 20 minute walk every day. Don't drink substances containing caffeine (coffee, tea, cocoa) and don't smoke cigarettes. These things exacerbate bone loss after menopause.

Last but not least, get your calcium by eating dark green vegetables. The center atom of chlorophyll is magnesium. In order to absorb calcium, you need magnesium. Limit your protein consumption. People who eat too much protein have high rates of osteoporosis. Protein creates an acidic condition in the blood. In order to neutralize that acid, your body leeches calcium from your bones.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: chad r
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ohio
Time: 1999-09-02 09:29:39
Comments: I now drink soy milk. I've always knew milk was contaminated. Probably the thing that pisses me off the most is our paid off half-ass F.D.A. and our uneducated money hungry farmers. Thanks to our farmers that don't know what the hell they are doing with the antibiotics and hormones, we have a nice string of new diseases (such as hemorrhagic e-coli and cancers). Well, hope they are happy!

Name: Kerry Tucker
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1999-09-02 01:30:13
Comments: Go Vegan

Name: Alex Barszap
Website: My Mad Moon
Referred by: Net Search
From: New York City
Time: 1999-09-01 23:41:53
Comments: This is a great site. I now have a place to point my friends to when they tell me I'm out of my mind with all these anti milk claims.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Alex,

Milk can be responsible for gastrointestinal distress, including diarrhea and constipation.

With friends like yours, who needs enemas?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Bruce Gilliwathy
Website: KILL IT - SKIN IT - EAT IT
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-08-29 03:13:31
Comments: You people from bloody America don't know nothing! Here in Australia, mate, we drink gallons of milk every single day and we're as fit and healthy a nation as you'll ever see. Don't come over here and spout your NOT MILK crap....cough...splutter...groan.... I've only had three heart operations and suffer from sinus, asthma and a host of other medical complaints but these are not - I repeat NOT a sympton of milk drinking. You probably don't eat meat either!!!!! What a loser

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Bruce,

I've always wondered why you Aussies were referred to as the people "down-under." In your case, they must be referring to the blue-green algae growing underneath the remora gliding beneath the great white sharks of your great barrier reef.

I remember my history well. Wasn't Australia settled by the residents of a British penal colony? Try as you may, ya just cannot get rid of bad breeding, Bruce.

Americans used to admire Aussies. It was that "Paul Hogan" influence. A few weeks ago the real-life model for Paul Hogan's movies was killed in a shoot-out with the police, after killing one officer.

Was he a milk drinker and meat eater too, or did he just eat crocs and roos?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rachel Brahs
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: IDAHO
Time: 1999-08-28 13:38:14
Comments: Thank you for providing this info. I've never been a milk drinker, but my husband is. I've been struggling with wheather or not to give cow's milk to my 1yr old daughter, now I have the information to back up my decision to be dairy-free.

Name: claude gregoire
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York City
Time: 1999-08-26 23:21:22
Comments: I think this is a great thing that you are doing. I heard you on WBAI radio the other day and I was glad to hear that you had a web site. I am going to tell all my friends about this site and I hope you keep up the good work. Your friend, claude

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Claude,

School is about to start for New York City kids. Spread the word! Help me to make a difference for those children least able to afford the negative affects of milk and dairy products.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Christie
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: California
Time: 1999-08-26 07:19:08
Comments: I BELIEVE THAT THIS THING WITH JOSHUA JACKSON IS GETTING WAY OUT OF HAND. JOSHUA JACKSON HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU ARE MAD AT, FOR CHRISTS SAKE, JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE.

Dear Christie,

For Christ's sake?

His eminence, John Cardinal O'Connor, Archbishop of New York condemned that ad.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alice
Website: GymnAlice in Wonderland
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wonderland, of course :)
Time: 1999-08-26 01:16:44
Comments: I just got your book, hardbound. It was staring me in the face while I was buying some broccoli at Whole Foods. I'm finding it hard to put down! :-)

Will bug you more when I'm finished with it. :-P

Name: S. Fulmer
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: FL
Time: 1999-08-25 08:28:03
Comments: I actually heard about this on a talk radio station. I was shocked! I knew that milk was not healthy for us, but was glad for the information that we received that day. It gets hard trying to explain to people why we don't drink milk. They don't believe us. Their loss.

Name: Chris!!
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: McKean!
Time: 1999-08-25 03:07:45
Comments: Yeah, Milk is gay!

Name: Casey Morris
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: Myerstown
Time: 1999-08-24 04:10:13
Comments: Hey, I think the Joshua Jackson milk ad is just find I don't know where you get the idea that it should be taken. I Love it. so, bite me!!!!!!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Not before you provide documentation that you've had your rabies and distemper shots, dear.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Deb
Website: Dazey's Webpage
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 1999-08-24 03:28:52
Comments: I am glad that I found this site. My family and friends are still believing they need milk. Well now they can read up on it.

Name: Nicely, Fred
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: One of the
Time: 1999-08-23 09:11:50
Comments: I always suspected it, but now it is a proven fact in my book. Finally someone did the research, Thanks... What a country sometimes, big business always finds a way.....Its just a shame we all suffer from there greed"e"ness

Name: Gregary
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Taber, Alberta Canada
Time: 1999-08-22 12:50:13
Comments: I recommend Mr Cohen or to whom is directly responsible for the creation of such a ridiculous website. To those that find the simple minded explanations that milk should not be ingested is this, you must relize that the unfortunate desparate attempt of persuading and "brainwashing" that Mr Cohen and his associates are conjouring up are all just a clever yet elementary plan to generate financial gain. However, many people have believed even less far-fetched ideas (Hail-bop comet, Jonesville etc). Nice ridiculous ploy sir, MILK IS GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Thank you, Professor Irwin Corey.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: harry ciuffetelli
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: yonkers,ny
Time: 1999-08-20 09:01:31
Comments: i only wish i new when i was a kid, i might have had good teeth, sports used all my calcium i drank milk like crazy they said its what i need,i ges industry will do anything for a buck. even lie to mom, thats bad?

Name: Brenda
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Waterloo, Canada
Time: 1999-08-20 04:05:10
Comments: Wow!!!!!! This site is phenomenal!!!!!!! My new dream kitchen appliance is the Soy milk maker.

Name: Kathryn B. Caldwel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Macedon,New York
Time: 1999-08-19 21:30:43
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, As an animal advocate, I appreciate the message that we are all trying to convey to the general public - that milk is bad stuff!! RAVS and Animal Advocates of Upstate New York just last night were at Wegmans handing out literature because they had the milk mustache contest going on. A lot of people were really interested in the concept of dairy products being bad. I saw you at Farm Sanctuary and am going to see you again in October at the RAVS dinner. I can't wait!! Keep up the good work - we're with you all the way.

Name: Lisa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: San Bruno, CA
Time: 1999-08-19 12:36:46
Comments: I have very much enjoyed reading your website. You are right on! I've felt this way about milk for several years but I know no one who shares my concerns. I am so glad to have stumbled across your web page. I have been a food activist since the birth of my first child 5 years ago, eating mostly organic fruits and vegetables. I have printed some of your articles to share with my husband and mom. I will also be buying your book as soon as I can. My 5 year old son was diagnosed with asthma when he was 2 1/2. He takes medicine every day to ward off an attack. I have always felt that it must be something he's eating. He does not eat meat or drink milk (he eats lots of fruits!) but likes yogurt and cheese. My 2 1/2 year old daughter drinks a lot of milk. My husband commends her. Ugh, that's going to be a tough one. As soon as I can get to the store, I will be buying rice milk. I need to find an alternative for my daughter. (I tried soy milk a while ago, it was ok but it couldn't fool my toddler.) I will also be buying dairy free cheeses and yogurts and ice desserts! I am looking forward to an even healthier family. Thank you for fighting for the truth and for a healthier world. Now, if only the non-believers could believe, if just for a minute ....

Name: Stewart Cassidy
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Prescott AZ
Time: 1999-08-19 12:13:11
Comments: I am disappointed at the insulting manner in which you address animal rights people, especially since many are non-dairy advocates. The free literature put out by PETA (I know you think it stands for people eating tasty animals) covers the main points in your book without plowing through all the tedious verbeage.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Stewart,

Welcome home! We knew that rest at Shadydale hospital would clear those spider-webs from your attic! See? Those moths weren't real, were they?

Perhaps you missed last Sunday's column: "What Happens to the Udders?"

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/081599.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dr. Yoon
Website: Nature Gallery
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Korea (South)
Time: 1999-08-18 13:15:39
Comments: Dear Everybody loving nature and animals, Recently, the Korean National Assemblymen with Rep. Kim Hong Sin as the central figure introduced the bill for the legality of "dog-meat", and the animal protectionists are demonstrating to obstruct the fearsome bill. Help and rescue dogs from their butchery!! Send your protesting mails to Korean Goverment and Assemblymen!! Boycott the 2002 Korea-Japan Worldcup if the Bill was carriaged!! We need your help urgently! Send your same message all over the world!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dr. Yoon,

Do they have Kosher delicatessens in Seoul? They could call them Jewish/Korean Soul food restaurants and serve Beagle tongue sandwiches on bagles. The Korean/French restuaruants could serve poodle marsala, while the Korean/English restaurants could serve Shepherd pie peppered with actual shepherd.

Why do the above foods sound disgusting, while traditional foods are so readily accepted?

Instead of a ham sandwich, how about eating a pig's tush?

Anybody for baby cow leg, sliced very thin?

Cute cuddly chickens at Easter...we eat their arms and legs next Sunday.

Perhaps we should all be given a knife to cut the throat of our next meal and watch it die.

Next Thanksgiving I'm inviting twenty family members and I'll have a turkey... live in the back yard. I wonder if any of my relatives will volunteer to butcher the bird?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim Smith
Website: Jim, Bren and Jennifer's homepage
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 1999-08-16 11:21:53
Comments: Hi Mr Cohen. I have already signed your guestbook a while ago, but I have read a lot of the information you have put out, and am totally "weaned" off of dairy products. I have never felt better, I am less tired, can concentrate better, and don't have such bad intestinal side effects of milk like I used to. I think your site is very informative, and that more doctors should start telling us more about the problems with milk. The reason why I started giving it up, is that I had my duodenum removed several years ago, and I drank milk a lot up until the middle of last year. I have to say, there is just nothing like the taste of soy milk on corn flakes for breakfast. Regards and keep up the good work, Jim

Name: Barbara Bognr
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Arizona
Time: 1999-08-16 03:57:42
Comments: Growing up on milk and living in farm country, I was shocked to read the arguments AGAINST dairy consumption. I am well-educated, and, in graduate school, I LIVED on milk and cereal when i couldn't afford to buy anything else. After reading information from Dr. Andrew Weil and "Diet For A New America" by John Robbins, I recognize how I, my family, and my community, TOTALLY bought into the dairy propaganda of our NEEDING a certain quota of dairy products. Unfortunately, it seems the medical community, who should promote ONLY information that would benefit our health status, seems to follow traditional dairy misunderstandings rather than looking hard at the research showing the health risks thanks to our dairy industry. I'm so glad we are vegetarian, dairy-free, and darn close to vegan. Good luck to all who are working on this!

Name: Andrea Lieberman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-08-15 10:39:48
Comments: Robert, Thanks again for speaking at last weekend's Farm Sanctuary Hoe Down in Watkins Glen, NY. Your speech about milk was informative, interesting and eye-opening!

Name: Jeff Racey
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-08-15 09:04:03
Comments: Keep up the good work.

Name: Alice Srinivasan
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Milwaukee, WI
Time: 1999-08-15 01:27:37
Comments: This is indeed an excellent webpage. I had my suspicions that cow's milk might not be good for humans, but I had no idea it was so harmful! I'll buy soy and rice milk from now on. Thanks!

Name: Tim n Donna
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Georgia
Time: 1999-08-14 23:03:26
Comments: Well our comment is, interesting reading and most definitly something to consider and act upon

Name: Garry Hartman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Flint, MI
Time: 1999-08-14 10:30:58
Comments: Seen Robert at the Summerfest last month at the University of Pittsburgh. He was Great!!

Name: Donna Graves
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Georgia
Time: 1999-08-13 22:23:59
Comments: A very interesting site, not to mention informative. As a vegetarian of only 6 months, I will NOT be drinking milk or using dairy products in the future. The diabetes info was especially interesting, and, having a mother, Grandmother,(who lost both legs and her life due to that disease) and ex-husband with diabetes, it really hit home. Unfortunatly, I don't think I can convince them to give up dairy products, they are pretty close-minded! Again...thanks!!

Name: Thomas Frye
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Houma, LA
Time: 1999-08-12 00:25:01
Comments: I have become a notmilkman almost immediately after reading Mr. Cohen's information. If Monsanto went to all that trouble to keep their "trade secrets" something must be up. Better safe than sorry I say. I have always been one to go against the grain and now that I discovered the error of my ways (I have been a life long milk drinker and love it, although I had to go to nonfat dried milk about 10 years ago, recommended by a chiropractor, to rid myself of sinus congestion and sinus infections) I am no longer drinking milk. I am having a hard time accepting that I was fed all those dead pus cells and can never look at milk in the same way again. By the way both my sons born 90' and 94' have eczema , psoriasis and the one born in 94' has mild asthma. I'll eliminate dairy from their diet to see what effect it will have. I hope that is what does it, my older son is agonized by the condition of his skin. It does'nt look good ! Thank you Mr. Cohen.

Name: Thed Horkheimer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-08-11 13:43:09
Comments: It's too bad that you are so polemic about certain subjects (ie that the sight of nearly naked flesh bothers you-- ask yourself, which is worse: a naked body or a naked blade? And that statutory rape thing? Waaaay much of a stretch, there buddy) , because you're right on about the milk thing. I've been dairy-free for 8 years now, thanks to a severe allergy/intolerance. I also don't think you should prosetylize so much about vegan/vegetarianism. With my food allergies, if I didn't eat meat, I'd starve. But take comfort, I won't eat anything smart enough to take orders from me. Besides, if you don't eat milk, what good are cows if they're not food or leather? How many ecosystems died to make those vinyl shoes of yours and that naugahyde coat? Cows and rubber plants are what you might call renewable resources after all.

Name: Mikay Barrentine
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Marianna, Florida
Time: 1999-08-11 12:05:19
Comments: wonderful site!!! i have been a vegetarian for 22 years but only went vegan a few months ago and i already feel like a new person!!! just wonderful. keep up the good work. people need to educate themselves on health issues and sites like yours help alot. i have NEVER trusted the US government to give me the right information. MONEY is what runs this country, not concern for it's people's health.

Name: Diana Rackley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Arkansas
Time: 1999-08-11 05:29:55
Comments: I have been a vegan/ vegitarian for almost six months.In this past half of a year I have gotten a lot of grief over people hounding me for becoming a vegan and actually sticking with it. Thank you for supplying me with the intelectual back up to use to clearly state why I made the choice to change. I am giving a speech in one day from now (8-10-99)and the point of it is to persuade people to become vegg-heads :)-like me:) or at least try and improve the way that they eat to better their health. Thank you for the support and I am here for support to others that have to deal with the harrasment that comes with being a vegan. Yours truly, Diana M Rackley

Name: Lorraine Nicotera
Website: BRAVE
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Weymouth, MA
Time: 1999-08-11 04:47:25
Comments: Your webpage is so great!! I saw you speak this past weekend, enjoyed it alot and checked out your webpage. You've got a GREAT sense of humor about all this - I'm glad you're on our side!!By the way, can you say a few things about "whey"? Why do they put it in things; some cookies and other foods would be vegan except for the whey. What's it used for and how do they get it?

Name: Marguerite
Website: Rabbit Information Service
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 1999-08-10 10:40:27
Comments: Hi, I love the design and layout of your website as well as the contents of course. I hope that more people learn the REAL facts about dairy products. It concerns me greatly that the manufacturers of dairy products are inventing more and more dairy based snack foods with different brand names and textures for children. This has some children and adults buying more dairy produce than they may have purchased previously. It is obviously the flavouring and additives such as fruit that is selling these products and not "the white stuff". The packaging is also bad for the environment. Kind regards, Marguerite

Name: Laura
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Salt Lake
Time: 1999-08-09 23:30:42
Comments: I was just thinking about the whole milk idea. It seems strange to me that there is not one single other species that consums another species milk, just because. Not for emergency food or anything, just because. I don't think we are supposed to be drinking the "stuff". I am glad I moved away from it!!

Name: Pam Egan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Indian Harbour Beach, Florida
Time: 1999-08-09 22:08:57
Comments: I came across the book "Is This Your Child" & began to suspect my daughter's outbursts & ear infections were milk related. Off of dairy, she's had no more ear infections and the asthma episodes decreased dramatically. She also suffered from eczema, which according to the doctor, she outgrew. She "outgrew" it when she went off dairy. Thankfully, she was breast feed for the first year of life.

Name: Tim Kelly
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta, Ga
Time: 1999-08-07 03:03:53
Comments: Excellent webpage

Name: Paul Juntunen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-08-06 22:15:32
Comments: My sincere thanks go out to Robert Cohen for attending the 1999 AVS Conference in Boulder! I thoroughly enjoyed his lectures there & I am now reading his book. Keep up the great work!!! Paul in Reno

Name: Elisabeth Evans
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Harrisburg, PA
Time: 1999-08-06 21:13:59
Comments: I love the taste of cheese. Is there a healthy alternative.?

Name: Alyssa Bleckwehl
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: washington state
Time: 1999-08-06 09:48:07
Comments: I have always held suspicion that BGH in milk was making american children larger and heavier, and I am glad to see a movement toward the education of such dangers. Thanks!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Alyssa,

It's a good theory. After all, BGH (bovine growth hormone) is very similar to human growth hormone. Both versions have 191 amino acids in their structures, but the sequence of amino acids differs by about 35%. Therefore, the hormones are not a perfect match.

HOWEVER...IGF-I (insulin-like growth factor-I is an even more powerful growth hormone than BGH. IGF-I in humans and cows has 70 amino acids in the same exact gene sequence.

This hormone instructs every cell in the body to grow.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Amy Wiilkerson-Krause
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minneapolis
Time: 1999-08-06 04:02:38
Comments: Thanks for the info....I will pass the site on to all my health-conscience friends!

Name: Penny Varteresian
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Port Townsend WA. 98368
Time: 1999-08-05 21:56:30
Comments: I totally endorse what you are doing. I think it is tragic what we are doing to ourselves and our children through ignorance and marketing. Thank you for helping to get the word out about the danger of milk and milk products. If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. Sincerely Penny Varteresian

Name: Michael Gurwitz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington, D.C.
Time: 1999-08-05 20:35:11
Comments: I am a very healthy vegan and never regret for a second giving up milk, i.e. liquid snot. When you think about it, suckling from another animal is pretty disgusting, and isn't that just for babies anyway? Add to that the pus and other crap in modern milk (from all the chemicals and hormones pumped into cows to make them give more milk), the cruel conditions of factory farming, the disease associated with eating dairy (see the great article on this at www.slate.com) and the pollution generated by millions of tons of dairy cow manure, and I defy anyone to give me a single good reason for consuming a white liquid which is squirted out of an animal.

Name: Erika Luther
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Madison, WI
Time: 1999-08-05 20:18:33
Comments: Truly appreciate your info. Adds more firepower to my never-ending arguments against the cruel dairy industry.

Name: Laura
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Salt Lake City
Time: 1999-08-05 03:55:47
Comments: I have been reading up on this and I am completely taken back!! I wasn't aware that milk was so bad for you. I would like to raise my son on something other than milk, but what has enough vitamins? Rice milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Laura,

Pasteurization destroys vitamins.

Want vitamins? Got fruit? Got vegetables?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-08-05 02:45:34
Comments: Hi,

I just read some interesting material in a book titled "Natural Alternatives to HRT" by Marilyn Glenville. It is a very well written book and one particular passage caought my attention and really grossed me out. It is about whey, a by-product of cheese production. Here is what she said:

Avoid whey which is the yellow green by-product of cheese production. It has a vile taste and an awful smell. Because of the increase in cheese consum,ption more whey is produced than before. An article in Los Angeles Times, 4 December 1978, stated:

Not only is there more whey, but it is harder to dispose of. Stricter federal and state regulations prohibit dumping raw whey down sewers. Whey is 100 to 200 times stronger a pollutant than residential sewage and most municipal sewage plants cannot treat it adequately. Disposal in streams is out because water depletes waterways of oxygen, rendering them incapable of supporting marine life. Even disposal on land or gravel pits is often unsuitable because of seespage into water supplies. The solution hit upon by both industry and government is to apply high technology and sophisticated marketing techniques and feed the stuff to humans. Whey is increasingly showing up as a cheap substitute inbgredient in a wide range of processed foods, from bakery goods and ice cream to soup mixes and beverages.

It sounds like cheese production is not only bad for the environment and our health but also the by-products are fed to us in other foods. I will cerytainly make sure I read the labels VERY carefully from now on. Yuk!!!!!!!


Name: Kerri
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: New Brunswick, NK
Time: 1999-08-04 20:22:37
Comments: This page is put together well. I appreciated a lot of the information here. I only wish it was easier to share it with other people. So many are unwilling to accept that something that has been acceptable for centuries is no longer so. Thanks!

Most every informational page on NOTMILK.com has a text equivalent.
This makes it very easy to print out or send to someone.

In addition, at the bottom of the column page is a link to download
all of the TEXT formatted newsletters up to the noted date.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Gaetano Ruggiero
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-08-04 18:38:20
Comments: Information is power.

Name: Vivian Kline
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York, NY
Time: 1999-08-04 15:02:50
Comments: This is a great site. I never drink milk. Those milk moustaches make me sick, ugh. I don't eat cows and I don't drink cow's milk.

Name: Tess
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Santa Monica, CA
Time: 1999-08-04 12:21:27
Comments: Wonderful and informative site! I have switched to soy milk for 3 years now and absolutely love it. As a non-smoker, and having many friends that do smoke around me, used to make my body react by making me congested with mucus the next morning after spending a night out or in with those friends. The typical breakfast for me would be cold cereal and milk...so I made the connection. Yes, milk was the culprit. I do still have it in some foods on occasion but I avoid drinking it. The positive difference it made for me is amazing. The brand I buy (Silk 1%, in the refrigerated section only) tastes the closest to cow's milk than any other soy...I have tried almost all shelf brand soy milks out there ;) A message for all those that are still milk drinkers or soy milk drinkers thinking of switching....it's definitely worth a try, for you and your family's health!

Name: Kala
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 1999-08-04 07:44:31
Comments: Grew up on a farm, a dairy farm. Never did care for milk. To this day, I'm always getting repremanded for not drinking that all-important substance..."Your bones will break!" "You'll get a hump!" Too funny. Always suspected this milk deal was bogus. Love cows though. Sweet creatures and make for great Far Side humor.

Name: mike
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: ny
Time: 1999-08-04 06:45:28
Comments: if avoiding milk products, namely igf prevents cancer, would avoiding it after being diagnosed with cancer rid the body of cancer? a friend of my moms has cancer, and I'd like to tell her the good news. is there cafienee in all types of chocolate? could i drink chocolate almond milk and not worry about cafienne? thanx for the help.

I was the first in my family to be diagnosed with any cancer,
and my prostate cancer was already terminal at the young age
of 55.

It makes good sense that since IGF-1 can be considered a cancer
"fuel cell"... that if one eliminates this external supply by
removing all milk and dairy from the diet... it must slow down
the growth of a cancer. Unhealthy substances are not only in
the cows MILK, but also in her meat... so it would make sense
to eliminate meat, too. There are hundreds of non-meat/dairy
goodies... and thousands of ways to prepare them. Most Americans
have consumed far too much meat and dairy with too little fruits
and vegetables... that their immune systems have suffered.

Perhaps a more healthy diet will do wonders. Most certainly it
cannot hurt.


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim.

Name: CG
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: OAKLAND
Time: 1999-08-04 04:08:40
Comments: Interesting....looking to find out more. Alot of it makes sense.

Name: Jennifer
Website: Food Allergy Information
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Missouri
Time: 1999-08-03 23:32:51
Comments: Thank you for this lovely site. I will add it to my links on my page. I would love it if you came up with some information linking the heavy use of milk-based formulas instead of breastfeeding causing the high incidence of dairy allergies in North America.

Name: Becky Cohen
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button
From: Missouri
Time: 1999-08-03 19:45:00
Comments: I have always wondered what the real truth about milk was--thanks for your research...

Name: David Jensen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle
Time: 1999-08-03 12:40:34
Comments: I've sent this link to all my non-bovine friends.

Name: frank
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Windsor, Ontario
Time: 1999-08-03 10:08:09
Comments: keep up the good work - don't let the pustulent bastards get you down. Can you recommend a good vegan cookbook THAT I WILL USE! Cheers. Will be back

Name: Renee
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ohio
Time: 1999-08-03 00:54:57
Comments: Great site! Love the recipes, there are alot of substitutions! It is hard for me to give up cheese, so having a recipe for "cheese" is comforting, when giving up comfort foods!

Name: Krystal
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Mississippi
Time: 1999-08-02 00:39:21
Comments: Great information, great page, great research. Just for the benefit of the doubt, I visited several dairy organization pages to see if they had any research or discussions on these issues. They only had brief statements that were meant to disband the counter-dairy stance. Very weak indeed, but perhaps it's not that hard to convince the convinced.

Name: Jason
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Boston
Time: 1999-07-28 05:41:04
Comments: Robert, We have been having a vitamin B12 information-fest on another website for vegans. Without animal products in the diet, there is supposedly no reliable natural source of B12. We have been informed that fermented foods contain B12 analogs that actually interfere with B12 absorption and utilization. However, although we know that some bacteria must produce B12 in high enough quantities and in the proper form (or vegetarian animals would have no source, and naturally fortified supplements would be hoaxes), we have not found information as to which bacteria have proper amounts and forms. We get comments from aspiring nutritional epidemiologists such as this, answering questions on message boards: "I was diagnosed as having B-12 deficiency several months ago, my level was 100, it should be above 200. I had only been vegan for a couple of months and was lacto-ovo for five years before that. I don't understand why mine was so low. It goes against everything I read about vegetarians and b-12." Long-term lacto-ovo-vegetarians who become vegans have been reported to be at risk for B-12 deficiency. There is less B-12 in a lacto-ovo-vegetarian diet than in an omnivore diet, so your body's stores of B-12 were probably lower than average when you became vegan. Additionally, people use up these stores at different rates, just due to individual differences in physiology. "I do not have pernicious anemia or any mal absorbtion problems. I am still very frustrated by this." Why be frustrated? We all need B-12 in our diets. Vegans cannot get theirs from any known natural source, and therefore must rely on supplements or fortified foods. "I was in a lot of pain, muscle and joints for several months." How were you treated, and did the symptoms resolve after treatment? "I'm not trying to scare anyone, I just think this is a very serious issue." I'm glad you posted, and glad that your problem was corrected before any long-term damage occurred. I've been campaigning (as have many others) to dispell the myth that there are natural sources of B-12 in a vegan diet. This myth began before technology was available to distinguish active B-12 from inactive analogs of B12, and has been perpetuated by hucksters selling pond scum and ideologues who refuse to face reality. Hopefully, your story will help convince a few more vegans that they cannot get by without a reliable source of B-12 in their diets. -the end I am interested in your angle on this debate, as well as some further information about whether there are, in fact, any reliable vegan sources of B12. This is the biggest and most strongly held argument against veganism. Bearing a soystache, Jason

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jason,

The Vitamin B-12 debate is a whole lot of nonsense!

Vitamin B-12 is produced by bacterial action. Dip a carrot in alcohol and test it in a lab and you've just destroyed the vitamin B-12. Eat one carrot grown in rich (organic) soil and you'll satisfy your Vitamin B-12 requirement for the next five years of your life.

I am in Colorado at a Vegan conference. When I return home, I'll respond in greater detail.

BOTTOM LINE:

Vitamin B-12 is one of the least-important nutrients, and is used to judge an entire vegetarian lifestyle. Those critics do not base their knowledge on real science.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Shannon Teter
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: New York
Time: 1999-07-27 08:32:27
Comments: Wonderful and informative site! I will be advising others to visit.

Name: dana scheuerman
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: baltimore maryland
Time: 1999-07-26 23:00:05
Comments: i am glead that i heard about your report on the 98 rock station. i really don't drink milk unless its chocolate milk but fiancee' drinks a lot of it. he also heard your report and has decreased drinking milk at least 75%. it definately got through to him. not only what is in milk but what problems it can cause.

Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-07-25 23:15:47
Comments: Hi,

I would just like to comment on a program I watched on TV a couple of days ago (although not related to dairy products I believe thge same thing is happening right now in the dairy industry).

The program was about smoking. In the 50s smoking was seen as beneficial, healthy and natural. In fact my gran was pursuadfed to start smoking by her GP as a means of reducing stress and leading a more healthy lifestyle (this was in the 40s). The program had clips of people talking about their smoking addictions and their reactions to scientific studies that were coming out at the time claiming that tobaco caused lung cancer. Nearly everyone was shoked and wasn't willing to believe it. The tobaco companies retaliated to the scientists claims and tried to devise experiments that were deliberately flawed to show thgat there was no risk of lung cancer. The program also talked about the corruption between the tobaco companies and the government at the time because the industry was taxed and created revenue for governmental agencies. For a long time after the studies tobaco was still promoted as beneficial to health. Evemtually the evidence from scientific studies was too much to ignore. The governments issued health warnings on all tobaco products. The tobaco companies thought back with massive adverytising blitz and bringing out a "filtered" cigarette that apparentlky removed all the danger (this is rather similar to skimmed milk I feel). Now tobaco products carry health warnings by law. I believe the same fate will happen to the dairy industry. The evidence has amounted to a point were we can no lonbger ignore it. Sooner or later the governm,ent will have to act and I believ it wont be long (well may be 10 - 20 years) before all milk cartons will have similar health warnings on them.


Name: Maria Perez
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-07-24 06:00:36
Comments: When I was in college I had a roommate who's father was a gynecologist. My roommate said that her father had cured many patients with reocurring yeast infections by advising them to stop eating dairy products. At the time I thought my roommate and her father were crazy, but now that I've stopped consuming milk and dairy products I know that they were right. My roommate's father also cured many cases of infertility by advising against dairy products. On a different note: My grandmother has osteoporosis and I'd like to introduce her to your web page but she only speaks spanish. Are you considering making your web page bilingual any time soon?

Translations have been discussed, but as yet they are not a work
"in progress". GOOD translations are not easy to come by, considering
the number of technical and medical terms used for this topic.

Regards... Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George B.C.
Time: 1999-07-24 00:59:44
Comments: According to figures published by Statistics Canada, dairy imports from the United States amounted to $26,834,000 worth in 1993. I have no more recent figures but that level of import continued to the present represents a tremendous amount of rBST/rBGH coming into the Canadian food supply. Health Canada may have banned the USE of rBST/rBGH in dairy cattle but apparently no one has banned the CONSUMPTION by people of rBST/rBGH dairy and it's high level of IGF-1.

This DOES make one wonder WHO (if anyone) is minding the store
or if anyone really has an overall understanding of this problem,
that *could* lead to a comprehensive and unified treatment of this
important health-related subject.


Regards, Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Elenei Boborovitsch-Jokyschite
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Outer Mongolia
Time: 1999-07-23 11:05:52
Comments: Dear Mr Cohen - I am a medical student from Outer Mongolia. I don't speak your English very well but I DO know that what you are saying is 100% correct. When I arrivied in the evil West civilization (I was on holiday in Hawaii) I started drinking milkshakes (banana being my favourite) ...and I am now obese, spotty and phlegmy. You speak the truth about the horrors of this white substance. I am now back in my village - where there's only yaks milk...but I can't catch them - so that's okay. When are you coming to my town to give a talk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Ms. Boborovitsch-Jokyschite,

It's not an easy task to tame those beasts, but here is a technique that usually works. Approach the animal from directly in front, showing the palms of both hands (so the animal does not see you as being a threat). Then kneel before the 1,800 pound beast and softly chant, "Yakity-yak, yakity-yak."

In about 30 minutes your yak will drift off to sleep. You can then milk the animal.

WARNING

Be very careful in making sure that you select the female of the species. You'll be rewarded with about two quarts of milk in about a minute. I don't even want to think about the consequences of milking a male yak. He will most certainly wake up.

After you have collected the two quarts of yak milk, churn it into yak butter. This should take about two hours and you'll end up with about 1/4 pound, or the eqivalent of one stick of butter.

At today's Mongolian trade rates, you should be able to exchange that for a one-pound bag of soybeans. This should easily feed your mother, father, and eleven brothers and sisters. Either that, or use the butter to grease the wheels of your cart.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ted D. Barnett, M.D.
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Rush, NY
Time: 1999-07-22 08:49:40
Comments: Enjoyed hearing Robert Cohn speak at the Summerfest in Johnstown, PA. July, 1999

Name: David
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Frederick, MD
Time: 1999-07-22 05:54:10
Comments: Let's talk about your hormones of preference. The American Society for Reproductive Medicine has proven that estrogen and progesterone help offset the impact of IGF-1 and prolactin. That is fact one. Secondly, are you familiar with osteoporosis? Please! Continue bashing milk and then find yourself old with fragile bones. Finally, do you understand how much milk you would have to drink to experience an overload of testosterone? The benefits of milk far outweigh any of your threats. Any other insights?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear David,

The American society for Reproductive what? Is this a Larry Flynt organization? If you return to this guestbook please bring the reference to that study.

Steroid hormones like estradiol act to increase the bioactivity of IGF-I by about thirty times.

IGF-I has been called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast and prostate cancer.

As for the dairy industry calcium myth, the largest study in mankind's history (Harvard Nurses study) has proven that women who ate a lot of cheese and drank a lot of milk as teenagers grew up to have higher rates of forearm and pelvic fractures than those who did not eat dairy products.

Why is there a calcium crisis and not a magnesium crisis? For every milligram of calcium you want to absorb you need an equal milligram of magnesium.

Magnesium is the center atom of chlorophyll.

Perhaps we are not aware of a magnesium crisis because the broccoli growers do not pay 20 cents per hundred pounds (like milk producers do) to the national broccoli marketing board.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: David
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Frederick, Maryland
Time: 1999-07-22 02:56:46
Comments: Dear Mr. Not Milkman, I applaud your webpage for being an example of your right to free speech. I cannot, however, endorse any of the "information" you have presented. I come from a family of dairy farmers. Not only does the dairy industry make up the greater part of our family income, it is also a large part of our lives. True, there are a small percentage of people who become sick when exposed to milk, but there are also people who get sick consuming eggs or vegetables. It is unfair to blame an industry for someone's allergy or abnormality. I am familiar with the history of the dairy industry and the tragedies that have occurred (i.e. mixing chalkwater with milk). There are concerted efforts to ensure that milk is sanitized and processed to present the best product to the public. I would like you to present credentials and give some empirical evidence to your claims. It is one thing to not drink milk, and another to make others do the same. Here's a milk toast from me to you.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear David,

I'll drink that "toast" with a glass of water, thanks.

For generations, your family imagined that it was producing nature's perfect food. Imagine learning that milk contained powerful growth hormones. Talk about a shock to your system.

Shall we discuss those hormones? Which ones would you have my children take? Estrogen, progesterone, prolactin, testosterone or IGF-I?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cristina
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Italy
Time: 1999-07-21 17:10:05
Comments: Dear Mr.NOTMILKMAN, I think you’ve done a great job with your site. Yeah, really! That’s a pity, for this is all crap… But before speaking about this matter, I would like to say that I’m Italian, and I do not know your language well; I’m still trying to learn. So I know I’ll make some mistakes in my entry; but if you are smart, you’ll know that the really important things are contents, not form. I’m a medical student, so I know my stuff, and I could tell you that drinking milk or eating cheese is good for my health, without exceeding, of course; do you know that without calcium, you cannot even move your fingers to type your answer in your (CENSORED) guestbook? Anyways, I’m not here to tell you that milk is wholesome; you think that it’s dangerous for health, and it’s your opinion. It’s not my business to tell you that you are wrong. The thing which makes me really angry is that you think you are so important, and that we are all morons for we have a different opinion. You told Nicole that she uses drugs only because she mentioned coffee. You told Alessandra she will go to Hell only because she likes milk and Dawson’s Creek…. I cannot think you really believe what you say. It would be too sad. Obviously you are not stupid; you did a good job with this page and you believe that milk is dangerous for health…. So, show us your intelligence and try to answer to our entries without turn every sentence against us… if you behave this way, maybe it’s only because your arguments are not so good.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cristina,

Yours is the 1,275th letter written to my guestbook.

It is rare that I receive a critical letter with a specific informational complaint. As a medical student, perhaps you have some real science to teach me.

Of course we need calcium! I have never said that we do not.

Too much protein inhibits calcium absorption. Doctors know this, but they irresponsibly keep truth from their patients. Why? Their brainwashed patients would leave them for another fool.

Telling the truth is sometimes unhealthy for one's financial outlook.

The NOTMILK website contains thousands of bits of information and has cited thousands of medical studies.

My critics use foul language and focus upon my criticism of the dairy industry "sex" agenda.

GOT FACTS, Cristina?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Aurora
Website: Youth for the Enviorment Veganism and Animal Liberation
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minnesota
Time: 1999-07-21 05:11:31
Comments: Hello. I am a 15 year old Vegan and it's great to have informational sites like this one out there! I have found that if you want to win an argument with a nonvegan, have knowledge. Knowledge is power! :) VeganGirl@collegeclub.com

Name: Eggee
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: England, UK
Time: 1999-07-21 04:26:46
Comments: Hi Mr NotMilkman! Your site is very informative. I have been here once before, but like very many other people, I thought that you couldn't possible be right. But I have been talking to others who have had 'strange' experiences with milk, so I am writing to ask you if there are any connections between milk and acne? i would very much appreciate any information you may have. Thank you, Eggee

Dear Eggee,

Teenagers have incredibly large amounts of surging hormones. Behavioral psychologists believe that's what ultimately drives their parents insane. Being the father of two teenage girls...I most certainly concur!

My teenagers have a remarkable absense of acne.

Zits are pus-filled oily pimples.

Milk is pus with hormones, fat and cholesterol.

Combine pus with hormones in a teenager's body and zits result.

GOT MILK?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Susan Keane
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1999-07-21 03:33:48
Comments: I would like to thank Dr. Cohen for changing my life. I used to eat a lot of unealthy food including dairy products, and I used to feel so bad. Now I've started eating a vegetarian diet and I feel a lot better. I've become an happy, healthy person. I was previously depressed. I feel like my own body is getting better every day. Thank you Dr. Cohen! NotMilk has made my life worth living!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Susan,

Don't thank me. Thank yourself for learning the truth about milk and dairy products. Just for the record, I am not a doctor. I am not a healer either, but neither are most physicians! In this case, you have done more for yourself than any physician could have. Think of the money you saved on phony drug prescriptions!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michelle Howell
Website: The Blooming Lotus
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Columbus, OH
Time: 1999-07-20 20:27:18
Comments: It's been a year now since your page inspired me to become a vegan. Before that I was conned into believing that in order to be a healthy vegetarian, I had to consume LOTS of dairy products. Since then, I've made my household dairy free as well. My children,(ages 3 & 6), are the healthiest in our neighborhood! Basically, I just wanted you to know how much you've changed the lives of my entire family...Thank You Mr. Cohen! Michelle

Name: Candice
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 1999-07-20 08:47:53
Comments: I'm a little confused about something, and I was hoping you could help me. In your list of foods that contain calcium you have things like potato chips, peanuts, etc., but when you read the food label on these items it says 0% calcium or not a signifigant source of calcium. Why is that? I was surprised to find even the leafy green vegetables that are supposed to be rich in calcium only have 2% calcium listed. It doesn't sound like that's alot, is it more than I think? I'm concerned because I'm hoping I'm getting enough calcium if there's only like 2% calcium in the foods I'm eating, although I do drink rice milk that says 30%, so I hope that makes up for it. I'm vegan, so I don't consume dairy products. Can you help me figure this out?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Candice,

Few people would call potato chips "health food." Potato chip manufacturers are simply not aware that there are 33 milligrams of calcium in a 100 gram portion of human breast milk and 40 milligrams of calcium in an equal portion of chips.

The label on their bag is required by USDA. That label reflects the recommended daily requirement for calcium.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Monet
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: what's it to you???
Time: 1999-07-20 04:50:40
Comments: Ok, first of all, this page really lacks, and second of all, who the (CENSORED) do you think you are?????? I mean, Nicole's my friend and that entry you twisted is a piece of(CENSORED) it really pissed me off and Nicole too, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HER YOU LOSER!!!!! Having fun yet??? Oh and also, Nicole informed me that you wanna ban Josh's milk ad, what the (CENSORED) is that?? That ad rules! You need to get a life, this page (CENSORED)and so do you. PS~Hanson rulez, their milk ad is awesome, and shout~outs to all my friends: Nicole, Natalie, Alli, Joi, Britney, Leah, Zach, Rob, Chris, and anyone I forget, hey to you! Cya people, stay cool.

Name: Jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Plano, Texas
Time: 1999-07-20 04:32:29
Comments: I understand you don't like milk, that's fine. Some people like milk, some people don't. I'm just curious and confused about the whole Josh Jackson ad. (yes, i'm bringing that up, sorry)I think since the media has pushed so much sex and violence on tv, or everywhere you look, that some people can get a little confused.(I'm not trying to sound mean or anything, I'm trying to sound as mature for a 22 year old as possible.) I think, though, that the Joshua Jackson ad is purely harmless. Many people don't even watch Dawson's Creek, and would take it in a funny way. There's nothing "sexual" about it. I read the ad carefully, and I noticed that the ad is discussing height, not rape. So, I just wanted to state that. ~Thank you for your time.

Name: Dawn
Website: American Sky: A Never Ending Ride
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Utah
Time: 1999-07-19 22:13:35
Comments: Nice page-I like the layout and the graphics. Some people like milk some people don't-that's the way of the world. I read some of your gb entries and see that if someone doesn't agree with you, they are the one wrong. Must be nice. I would love to always be right; let me know your secrets. I'm sure you'll change my entry to suit yourself. I won't waste my time insulting you or your page. I don't need to do that to make myself feel better. Have a wonderful day and keep up the awesome work on the page! -Dawn

Name: Nicole
Website: Somewhere Past Yourself
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: here..
Time: 1999-07-19 03:17:19
Comments:

NOTE: Nicole wrote privately to me. She was upset that I treated her letter like dialogue. In fairness, I've reprinted her letter at the bottom of this post, exactly as it was written. You have the option to scroll down to the bottom of the page and read her letter first, or read my treatment of it.

The NOTMILKMAN

_______________________________________________________________________________

Excuse me----I EXCUSE YOU

Are you lactose intolerant----NO

and pissed off at the world because of it?----NOPE

You must have some major issues to devote an entire web page to hating milk. ----I'M GLAD YOU NOTICED.

Milk has been around for thousands of years ----BUT REFRIGERATORS HAVE NOT

and just because like 2 people have had illnesses because of it you think that everyone should just stop drinking milk----YEP

OH and what the heck is with your joshua jackson milk ad banning thing anyway? Hello?? ::knock knock:: ----COME IN, NICOLE

is there anyone home in that thick skull of yours??---- I WAS THE SUBJECT OF THE OCTOBER ISSUE OF JULIAN WHITAKER'S "HEALTH AND HEALING" NEWSLETTER, THE LARGEST READ MEDICAL NEWSLETTER IN THE WORLD. I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THOUSANDS OF PHYSICIANS.

I mean come on! It's a JOKE ----IT'S NO JOKE, NICOLE.

you know the things people laugh at (other than you).---- PERHAPS I'VE LOST MY SENSE OF HUMOR.

You need to get a life (you know what most people have)---- GOOD SUGGESTION. I'LL EXPLORE THAT AFTER NEXT WEEK'S TELEVISION BLITZ IN WHICH I DO EIGHTEEN TV SHOWS IN THIRTEEN DAYS.

and realize that people are just not buying this crap:---- ACTUALLY, LAST YEAR THEY BOUGHT 170 BILLION POUNDS OF THAT CRAP...AND 370 BILLION ROLLS OF CHARMAN. WE'D PUT MR. WHIPPLE OUT OF BUSINESS IF WE ELIMINATED PUS WITH HORMONES AND GLUE FROM OUR DIETS.

notice that almost everyone who signs this is AGANST you---- ACTUALLY, THE BRAINLESS TEENAGERS ARE AGAINST ME. I CHECKED YOUR WEBSITE, NICOLE. YOUR PARENTS MUST BE QUITE PROUD OF YOU.

(as in not agreeing with you). Wake up and smell the coffee---- CAFFEINE POSSESSION WAS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH DURING THE TWELTH CENTURY, NICOLE. ANY OTHER DRUGS YOU RECOMMEND?

(with cream :a dairy product not unlike milk)---- YOU MEAN, THE "STUFF" THAT RISES TO THE TOP? GOT FAT?

and realize that you are dillusional---- DILL-USIONAL? IS THAT AN HERB, OR DO YOU NEED A SPELLING LESSON?

and need medical attention.---- THANKS FOR YOUR SECOND OPINION, NICOLE.

_________________________________________________________________________________

HERE IS NICOLE'S ORIGINAL LETTER:

Excuse me. Are you lactose intolerant and pissed off at the world because of it? You must have some major issues to devote an entire web page to hating milk. Milk has been around for thousands of years and just because like 2 people have had illnesses because of it you think that everyone should just stop drinking milk OH and what the heck is with your joshua jackson milk ad banning thing anyway? Hello?? ::knock knock:: is there anyone home in that thick skull of yours?? I mean come on! It's a JOKE you know the things people laugh at (other than you).You need to get a life (you know what most people have) and realize that people are just not buying this crap: notice that almost everyone who signs this is AGANST you (as in not agreeing with you). Wake up and smell the coffee (with cream :a dairy product not unlike milk) and realize that you are dillusional and need medical attention.


Name: Gemma
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England
Time: 1999-07-19 00:22:48
Comments: I would just like to say that even though I do love Josh Jackson and would jump to his defence I would have to agree with you. People need to see that this site isn't a stab at Josh himself(Josh might not even like milk)it is commmenting on what he said in the ad. Pacey Witter is a character and in this ad people need to see that Josh was just playing his character Pacey Witter. Josh's lines for Dawson's Creek were scripted just like these lines in the Gotmilk ad were scripted and although promoting rape and teacher/student relationships may not have been intentional. This is what has come across to a part of the audience. However much you love Josh Jackson think past that and realise that this campaign has nothing to do with Josh Jackson personally it's to do with the dairy industry and how they advertise. Not the stars of the adverts.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

EXACTLY!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rach
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: England
Time: 1999-07-18 22:16:28
Comments: I would like to agree with Anana about the Josh Jackson milk ad. It was obviously meant to be just a light-hearted joke, in the style and persona of his character on Dawson's Creek, Pacey Witter. I don't know why people have to take some things so seriously and try to analyse them to discover hidden meanings that weren't even there in the first place! I mean, what kind of a person with half a brain cell is going to believe that you can get an older woman by drinking milk! Yeah, right. People are not that stupid!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Rach,

You English teenagers are much smarter than American teens. You say: "People are not that stupid." How intelligent of you to make that observation.

However, consider this. Our dairy industry spends $250 million American dollars on those ads every year. Are you naive enough to think that they are wasting those dollars on a program that does not work?

Brainwashing works because the brain being washed does not realize what's going on. I'd say that you're somewhere in the rinse cycle, Rach. Let me know when you're ready to be hung out to dry.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-07-18 22:13:38
Comments:

Dear Notmilkman,

Your site is very informative and interesting! I would like to add my comments on a few issues you have talked about or that have been talked about in this guestbook.

Firstly, I would like to point out the stupidity of one of Monsanto’s claims that the use of rBST will reduce problems of global warming because less cows will be required to produce the same amount of milk and therefore less methane will be produced thus reducing the greenhouse effect. This is completely absurd! It is like the government proposing a new way to reduce greenhouse emissions by increasing the speed limits on the roads. Their logic would be that the increased speeds on the roads would reduce the time we spent in cars and because less time was spent in cars, fewer emissions would be produced thus reducing the greenhouse effect. Of course this would not be the case because the faster speeds of the cars would cause a faster burning of the fuel (petrol, diesel etc) and hence the emissions would not be reduced. This is the same in the case of rBST. This hormone increases the metabolism of the cow, which in turn increases the milk production. However, the increased metabolism obviously results in an increased metabolism of food and an increased in the amount of methane a single cow will produce. I know you have made this point before but I just thought an analogy might make it a bit clearer.

The second point I would like to make is the ridiculous idea that the consumption of dairy products increases bone strength. This may at first glance seem a logical conclusion as milk contains high amounts of calcium and calcium is needed to build strong bones. However, there are many factors that contribute to strong bones such as relative levels of oestrogen and progesterone hormones, magnesium and calcium balance in the diet, protein intake and exercise. Whilst milk may contain high levels of calcium it is somewhat lacking in magnesium which is needed in approximately equal amounts in the body for efficient use of calcium. It also contains large amounts of hormones such as oestrogen and IGF-1 and also high levels of protein. So to summarize milk contains one protective element (calcium) and three factors that increase the risk of osteoporosis (low magnesium levels in relation to calcium levels, hormones and protein). In some studies it has actually been shown that regardless of the amount of calcium taken in in the diet, calcium lost from bones is the same on a high protein diet. That is to say, it is not so much a lack of calcium in the diet but a lack of absorption and increased loss of calcium from the bones that is more important in the cause of osteoporosis. To draw another analogy we need to ask ourselves how do all the other animals on the planet build strong bones without consuming milk during adulthood? The most striking example of this I feel is the elephant. It is a magnificent creature of huge size and strength that can live to over 100 years. It has huge bones and tusks and its demand for calcium must be much higher than that of a human. Yet I have never watched a nature program and been told by the narrator (read in a David Attinborough voice for maximum effect):

"These animals are truly remarkable. There huge bones and tusks obviously require large amounts of calcium yet due to the animals inability to suck the milk from a cows’ udder these animals are very fragile. Their bones are destined to break easily and we are fortunate enough to get as close as this without scaring them as this could cause them to easily break a bone".

Why do people find it so hard to believe that one can’t produce strong bones without milk when clearly this is not the case (and the elephant clearly proves otherwise)? The answer of course is millions of dollars (or pounds) spent in brainwashing people by the dairy industry. A much better approach would be to take in calcium and magnesium in sufficient levels (as provided by seeds, nuts, green leafy vegetables) and increasing exercise. If the dairy industry was really concerned about osteoporosis this is the recommendation that they should be making.

The third point I would like to make is in response to a guestbook entry from a long time ago (I don’t remember exactly when or what number). The argument was that hormones in milk are of no threat to us because of the concentration gradient of the hormones across the gut wall. The claim was that as the concentration of these hormones would be higher in the blood there would be a concentration gradient in favour of not absorbing the hormones into the blood stream. The author asked if you had done your homework and realized this. I ask him if he ever took biology at school. If I remember correctly the theory behind the concentration gradient is that if there is a higher concentration of something on one side of a permeable membrane then there will be an increased rate of flow from the higher concentration across the permeable membrane to that of the lower concentration. There is a flow across the membrane from both sides but the one with the higher concentration simply has an increased flow rate than that of the lower concentration. If given sufficient time this process will continue until both sides have the same concentration. Now if the level of the hormone inside the gut is nothing (i.e. no hormones consumed through diet) then no hormones will pass into the blood stream. If there is some hormones in the gut then they will pass into the blood stream but just at a slower rate than from the blood to the gut. The flow from the blood to the gut will not increase and thus there would be an increased amount of the hormones in the blood.


Name: Allie
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From:
Time: 1999-07-18 11:26:33
Comments: My, my, my...you're the anti-milk one, eh? Soo...you hate milk, you don't want to, let's say, touch milk, much less to drink it. And...I can assume that you never and will never have stuff like ice cream, milk shake, taart, chocholate, pie, chees burger, ...anything that contains milk? Boy, you sure know how to not enjoying life, don't you?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Allie,

If you call getting rid of my yearly allergies, and ridding my lungs of mucus "not enjoying life" then I plead guilty.

If you call needing five hours of sleep every night and getting my cholesterol level below 150 "not enjoying life," then you're decribing me.

If you call not eating virus, pus, bacteria, powerful growth hormones, allergenic proteins, fat, cholesterol, dioxins, pesticides and antibiotics "not enjoying life," then you are most certainly talking about yours truly!

I sure live a boring life! The average American spends ten years dying of either heart disease or cancer. I intend to continue living my boring life, and die a boring death.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mark Guertin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Québec, Canada
Time: 1999-07-18 01:22:44
Comments: Bonjour à tous, Vous qui êtes sceptique des coté non désiré que nous apporte le LAIT. J'ai fait l'expérience plusieurs fois, j'ai arrêté de boire et consommé les produits laitier et depuis quand je reprend un produit laitier, le lendemain j'ai des douleur dans toutes les articulations de mon corps. Je remarque aussi des infection et plusieurs fois j'ai attrapé un virus à la suite d'une consommation laitière. Jài la sclérose en plâques et aussi depuis mon état reste stable. Mark

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mark,

A friend translated you letter. Here is the English version:

Hello to you, the milk skeptic. I've done this experiment several times, I stopped drinking and consuming dairy products and when I begin again, the following day I have pain in all parts of my body. I notice also infections and several times I caught a virus following dairy consumption.

Mark, perhaps something was lost in the translation, but I got the message, and apparantly, so have you!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Anana
Website: Anana's Amazing Website
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 1999-07-17 09:19:09
Comments: I would like to comment on ur opinion on the milk ad featuring Joshua Jackson. It is merely a joke saying that his character "gets" mature woman by drinking milk. I don't see anything wrong with that. Us, teens just get a laugh of it. Jackson is tall because he drinks a lot of milk. We don't know if his character on Dawson's Creek "Pacey Witter" does drink milk. The ad simply encourages kids/teens to drink milk to grow taller. The "older woman" part is just a joke. I believe teens will not take the other meaning of the ad... if there is EVEN another meaning.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

There is another meaning, Anana.

You know it, I know it and the dairy industry counts on it. Sex sells, Anana.

When I was a teen, that type of thing offended young women. Of course, young women of today do not have the same passions that young women had in the 1970's. We were another generation. I can understand how you allow yourself to be subservient to the marketing and brainwashing of the sexy brainwashing milk ads.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alexandra
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Italy
Time: 1999-07-17 04:53:27
Comments: I read your answer, mr NotMilkman. You cleverly used your knowledge of foreign culture and fictiously defined me as a traditional, religious and supersticious girl. You taunted my protest with false menaces of going to hell. Can't you argument your answers in a not-so-childish way? And, more, do you think that by saying one obvious thing (I live near the Pope, yeah, right, so what?)that should frigthen me or change my opinion? Have you ever thought I couldn't care less about che Holy Church? I might surely agree on what you said about rape, but is surely a stupid and useless thing to rage againts things like this. Once more, if you want to fight against milk and for your supposed (but, in my opinion, wrong) theory, change your battle ground. Use more of that scientific stuff, and don't blame a young and talented actor who probably didn't write that lines. Don't blame a TV series who corrected its mistakes in two episodes (Mrs. Jacobs realizes her own mistake and leaves). Blame WhyMilk, right, but try to remember that technically it said nothing wrong. Josh is 20, and he has the right to say whatever he wants. He can impress an older woman, he can even marry a 60 years old widow if he feels like. People will look at him as Pacey Witter, surely, but this is a clever trick from the milk company. Speaking about milk, I don't like milk too much, but I still think it's a healthy component of a good diet. Here in Italy, besides religion, we have a very strong food culture, and I can assure you that milk helps, somehow. Cows make good steaks, excellent milk, and milk makes excellent cheeses. I don't like meat so much, either, but I respect other people's thought. I like cheese, and I'm quite fond of all the different cheeses we have here, but I don't exceed because I know it's not good for my health. I say people should drink milk and dairy products for their own pleasure, and I think that milk surely does no bad thing in human body, and neither do dairy products, if taken in proper quantities. Heck, people drink alcoholics and smoke cigarettes, and we worry about MILK???????????? Again, let's fight our battles in worthy fields. Let's leave Josh Jackson alone, this is surely none of our business. At least, not here. Sincerely, Alex

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Alexandra,

You wrote:

"I don't like milk too much, but I still think it's an healthy component of a good diet."

You then wrote:

"I'm quite fond of all the different cheeses we have here, but I don't exceed because I know it's not good for my health."

I'm glad we cleared that up!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sue
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta
Time: 1999-07-17 02:14:35
Comments: Thank you for this informative and very relevant site! I had no idea some of the things you describe were true about the Dairy Industry, milk, etc. Now, the stuff about the FDA and Congress - that I can believe! I haven't voted in 10 years and I have no intention of starting now. They are all a bunch of self-serving, callous, money-grubbing people who don't give a damn about the American public, the truth, or the Constitution. Thank you for the expose's on their hypocritical tactics. Shame on them for allowing the FDA to continue to LIE to us, not only about milk, but about the safety of our food in general. Like fat content of food - what a bunch of hooey! Low fat is NOT 45% of calories coming from fat - that's a blatent lie! You should get a medal for the work you are doing... thanks again!

Name: Natalie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England
Time: 1999-07-16 14:17:31
Comments: The scientifc evidence that you have against milk being mad for you is weak and if it helped to cause any illness it would be publically known - not just on a website

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Natalie,

Real science is "publically known."

The dairy industry spends billions of dollars to brainwash people like you with goofy milk mustache ads.

This site exists as the antidote to the dairy industry lies.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Truly amazing how many "strong supporters" of cow's milk
and dairy don't have the strength of conviction to be
responsible for their comments!

Yet another nameless/Email address-less fact-less but
OPINIONATED "surfer".

Dave Rietz, Webmaster and victim


Name: whatever
Website: Pacey and Andie...
Referred by: AngelFire
From: wa
Time: 1999-07-16 11:52:38
Comments: ok, if milk is so bad, then how come it keeps so many people alive and healthy??

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Whatever,

Even the milk marketing board wouldn't go that far!

I hear that ice cream is to die for.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: June Cleeland
Website: SEXY SEER DOES SYDNEY
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-07-16 11:40:53
Comments: I am incredibly beautiful, sexy, lithe limbed and healthy. I don't consume any dairy products or animals...errr.....could this be the reason?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear June,

I just came back from six days in Johnstown, Pennsylvania where I attended the North Amercian Vegetarian Society yearly conference/retreat with 600 vegetarians. I didn't see one zit all week! Now, what are the odds of that?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lila Anne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York
Time: 1999-07-16 01:25:12
Comments: If milk is so horrible, why do mothers nurse their children with milk? From what you're saying that mother's shouldn't nurse their young at all. If God intended milk to be bad, do you think he would have done this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lila,

I am a strong advocate for breastfeeding. Mother's milk is nature's perfect formula for the young of each specific species.

Instinctively, adult humans know better than to drink human breast milk. Instinctively we know not to drink dog's milk...even though they are man's best friends.

All milk contains hormones, lactoferrins and immunoglobulins.

These substances are beneficial to infants, not adults. Babies should double their weight in three months, not adults.

The most powerful growth hormone in a cow's body (IGF-I) is identical to the same hormone in the human body.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: robert stoops
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: maryland
Time: 1999-07-15 05:26:51
Comments: wow man i was listing to you on 98 rock the other morning milk is so sick thanks for the in put

Name: Nicole
Website: Nicole Lee Morgans slambook
Referred by: AngelFire
From: Georgi
Time: 1999-07-15 03:53:43
Comments: WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT STATUTORY RAPE? THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE TALKING ABOUT A TEENAGER HAVING SEX WITH AN ADULT. THEY WERE JUST SIMPLY SAYING THAT YOU COULD IMPRESS AN OLDER FEMALE NOT HAVE SEX WITH AND ADULT FEMALE JUST IMPRESS SOMEONE OLDER THAN YOU!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nicole,

Come on back for a visit after those training wheels are removed from your bicycle and I promise to get into this with ya!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kellie Clugston
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Milton, PA
Time: 1999-07-15 00:55:43
Comments: Do you have any info on the connection between depression and the consumption of dairy products?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kellie,

In May of 1995 a doctor's newsletter (Townsend Medical Letter) listed eleven symptoms from milk consumption. These symptoms included mood swings, irritability, and depression.

Each sip of milk contains 59 different bioactive hormones.

My suggestion is to eliminate all milk and dairy products for just one week and pay careful attention to how you feel and the differences in your own behavior.

GOT MILK? GOT HORMONES!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: richard g.stant jr.
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: delaware
Time: 1999-07-14 22:50:04
Comments: I was listening to 98 rock in baltimore on 7-13-99 and looked up your web site at the office. it was very intersting so i looked it up and turned some of my friends on to it>

Name: Charlie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Maryland
Time: 1999-07-13 20:11:48
Comments: I just heard a radio interview with someone of your organization and surfed in this morning at work. A very good friend of mine used to always say "I never eat cheese or drink milk.....didn't you know that it's in the "snot-family?"......now I believe! I will now boycott dairy and urge others too! of...great page, too.

Name: Jill
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Maryland
Time: 1999-07-13 17:31:50
Comments: Hi. I heard you on the 98 Rock morning show and it definetely caught my interest. I checked out the web page and I was amazed. I cant believe that the people we put in charge of our lives would allow this to happen. I'm not a big fan milk myself. I always feel like I can't swallow after I drink it. Like my throat is full of mucus. I guess that would explain that feeling. I want to thank you for trying to keep people informed. We need someone to look out for us. I dont know if you send out newsletters or something but if you do I would love one. I plan on buying your book. It would be good to show my parents that milk isnt that great for you after all and that I wasnt wrong to not want to drink it all those years when that was what we had to drink at the dinner table and we couldnt get up until it was done. Keep up the good work and you have a supporter here. Thanks, Jill Cook

Name: brett
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-07-13 13:34:20
Comments: I have a question. You say that a liter of cows' milk is permitted to have twenty thousand live bacterial cells after pasteurization. Just to compare, how much bacteria might the same amount of milk have before pasteurization?

Thanks.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brett,

That's a good question, and I don't think anyone monitors milk. Who in the industry would want the answer?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

OOPS! " liter of cows' milk is permitted to have twenty thousand live bacterial cells"

That should be 20 MILLION (20,000,000) live cells per liter!

AND... up to 750,000,000 somatic cells (we call it "pus") per liter!

BIG difference! All of it is bad news. 59 hormones, 100 allergens,
up to 52 residual antibiotics, herbicides, pesticides, blood, feces,
virus, dioxins, iodine, and perhaps even some good old "strontium 90"
that was in the news so much during the cold war with Russia.

Nice all around toxic mess... properly termed a "Deadly Poison"!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and consumer/cancer victim


Name: Rob Williams
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: Kansas
Time: 1999-07-12 04:20:04
Comments: In order to make up our own minds about things, rather than having others choose our opinions for us, it's necessary to be exposed to a variety of opinions and information. I can't say I'm surprised that the dairy industry is shying away from an open debate on TV or elsewhere. Pure gold does not fear the smelter. I don't know how much it's beyond the scope of this site, but there are some pretty serious animal rights issues involved with the way dairy cattle are treated in this society also, but there are other sites for that such as peta-online.org. I wonder if I might be able to guess what thoughts passed through Robert Cohen's mind recently when that class-action lawsuit was won against the tobacco industry? The implications I'm seeing here probably won't ripen for a while, since the health effects of tobacco are so much more well known, but eventually a similar situation might be able to develop.

Name: Stephanie
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Alabama
Time: 1999-07-12 00:43:30
Comments: To whom it may concern: I respect your enthusiasm for the health and well-being of the general public. However, I do not feel that Joshua Jackson's ad for the milk campaign promotes statutory rape. The television series "Dawson's Creek" dealt with this issue during the first season. I am sure the producers of this show dealt with many critics; however, being a teenager myself, I do not feel the show promoted teacher/student sexual relationships. The show was meant for entertainment purposes. I am certain that no one that has seen the television show or the milk ad were influenced into beginning a sexual relationship with someone that could be viewed as statutory rape. In my opinion, the people at "not milk" are simply trying to bring more viewers to the not milk website. Please stop using this battle for merely a publicity stunt. I am sure that no one who saw this ad felt compelled to have it banned, except the people at "got milk", who feel that any dairy product is worthy of slander. Thank you for your time.

Name: Madison
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: New York
Time: 1999-07-09 12:29:04
Comments: Web site pretty well laid out (except for a few broken links). But VERY informative. I didn't see any information linking adolescent ACNE and milk (something which I figured out for myself a long time ago). I can't say I've gone cold turkey, but I've been at about a cup every couple of weeks for about two years now, and I have totally clear skin. Keep up the work. (I've seen some clever ads in NY by the way about the dangers of MILK and children) was that you guys? Kool anyway.

Name: Dr. charles a. hoinowski
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: annandale nj
Time: 1999-07-09 10:05:54
Comments: thanx 4 u're work

Name: Radhika
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Madison, WI
Time: 1999-07-08 20:58:19
Comments: I understand that the purpose of this website is to discourage people from drinking milk for health reasons. I can completely appreciate the effort to put facts about this issue on the internet and to voice your own opinions on it, because NotMilk obviously feels very strongly. However, the attempt to demonize the dairy industry and blame them not just of poisoning our children but of condoning, of all things, statutory rape, is unconvincing and ridiculous. Is this a health issue or a personal grudge against the dairy industry? You insist on calling people "children" who believe that the Joshua Jackson advertisement is appropriate, but it's NotMilk that is acting childish. If you want to be vegans, go ahead. If you want to spread information about veganism, great. But accusing the Got Milk ads of corrupting our society? I think you need a reality check.

Name: Melissa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-07-08 03:47:12
Comments: I do uderstand that a student teacher relationship should be nothing more than what it is in the class room. But baning the Joshua Jackson milk ad is not going to stop it from hapening. By baning just one ad your not going to stop the wrong in this world. By doing it you would just leave people such as myself upset and unhappy. I have watched Dawson's Creek from the very first episode to this day. The show and it's actors/actreses have never said that what they do on the show is right. To add another point the ad never says anything about a student teacher relationship. The ad does say things about impressing an older woman. In real life we all try and impress older people wether it be a man or a woman even a teacher but never does Joshua Jackson or Milk for that matter say anything about sopporting the stoy line of last season on Dawson's Creek.( the Pacy Temara relationship) I just hope you realize the stupidity of this and if I (a 14 year old freshman can see it) I hope you can too. Thank you for your time!

Name: Liam S. Suil
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button
From: Buffalo,New York
Time: 1999-07-07 06:50:26
Comments: My daughter has had diabetes(IDDM) for some time.In looking for a cause and a possible cure I came across your web sight.I'll hense forth avoid the beverage of bovine milk as she will also.We'll let you know the results after a year..What I'd like to know is if genetically altered cows that can produce Human milk or if any mamal milk can be had and used in place of cows milk without the negative side affects?

Milk is milk is milk is MILK! Mother nature tailored each
of the over 4000 mammal milks for the needs of each newborn.
Milk was meant to be an "emergency nutritional starter pack",
and that is why mother nature, in her millions of years of
trial and error... came up with this system that has its own
natural and normal TERMINATION period.

Of the 59 bioactive hormones, 100 allergens, concentrated
residual antibiotics, herbicides, pesticides, virus, blood,
feces and more... what do they think is necessary and healthy
for any human? Perhaps it is the up to 20,000,000 LIVE bacteria,
and up to 750,000,000 somatic cells (pus) that the FDA allows as
maximums PER LITER. Oh, and remember the fat and cholesterol.

Obviously, none of that is healthy or nutritional.

Most critters get weaned from their mothers at an early age. Most
HUMANS were weaned by their mothers at an early age. Why, then,
are human nursing from cow's for most of their shortened lives?

Milk? Think obesity (40% of Americans and rising), heart disease,
cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis, behavioral problems, digestive and
bowel problems, asthma, allergies, zits and more.

The question of the century is: Got milk? If so... WHY??

Regards... Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim.


Name: J. CHanges
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: USA
Time: 1999-07-07 00:57:29
Comments: I have just read several entries from your guestbook. Stunned does not justify this feeling that I have. I hope and I pray that these people surely do not know or understand what they are talking about when they think YOU GUYS are the BAD GUYS!!! Give me a break! Does ANYONE have any morals anymore? How bout just a twinge of a conscience? Maybe I don't get out enough to realise how far, far down this world has gone. Rape in any form is wrong. Drugs are wrong. Chemicals are wrong. Why do people knowingly want to hurt themselves? Good luck notmilk. The way this world is heading...you're going to need it. I wish you the best.

Name: Christine O'Brien
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tampa, FL
Time: 1999-07-06 21:54:14
Comments: Thank you, thank you, thank you for such an informative, impressive site. It just reafirms what I know, veganism is beautiful and ignorance is its only enemy.

Name: Min
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-07-06 13:12:23
Comments: Below is part of an artical which originally appeared in the October 1995 FDA Consumer. The last sentance of the fourth paragraph is one to note.

More People Trying Vegetarian Diets by Dixie Farley

"Perceiving plant foods as beneficial because they are high in dietary fiber and, generally, lower in saturated fat than animal foods, many people turn to vegetarian diets.

Grain products, for instance, form the base of the U.S. Department of Agriculture and Department of Health and Human Services' Food Guide Pyramid, which recommends 6 to 11 daily servings of bread, cereal, rice, and pasta. Daily intakes advised for other foods are: 3 to 5 servings of vegetables; 2 to 4 servings of fruits; 2 to 3 servings of milk, yogurt and cheese; and 2 to 3 servings of meat, poultry, fish, dry beans, eggs, and nuts. The guide advises using fats, oils and sweets sparingly.

And, who hasn't seen signs in their grocer's produce section urging consumers to eat "5 a day for better health"? This slogan reflects a major government-industry campaign to help people eat more fruits and vegetables as part of a high-fiber, low-fat diet that emphasizes variety.

The campaign is consistent with the USDA-DHHS Dietary Guidelines for Americans, which states, "Most Americans of all ages eat fewer than the recommended number of servings of grain products, vegetables, and fruits, even though consumption of these foods is associated with a substantially lower risk for many chronic diseases, including certain types of cancer" Also noted: "Most vegetarians eat milk products and eggs, and as a group, these lacto-ovo-vegetarians enjoy excellent health."

But health benefits are not the only reason vegetarian diets attract followers.

Certain people, such as Seventh-day Adventists, choose a vegetarian diet because of religious beliefs. Others give up meat because they feel eating animals is unethical. Some believe it's a better use of the Earth's resources to eat low on the food chain--that is, to eat plant foods, rather than the animals that eat the plant foods. And many people eat plant foods simply because they are less expensive than animal foods.

It's wise to take precautions, however, when adopting a diet that entirely excludes animal flesh and dairy products, called a vegan diet. (See "Vegetarian Varieties.")

"The more you restrict your diet, the more difficult it is to get the nutrients you need," says John Vanderveen, Ph.D., director of the Food and Drug Administration's Office of Plant and Dairy Foods and Beverages. "To be healthful, vegetarian diets require very careful, proper planning. Nutrition counseling can help you get started on a diet that is nutritionally adequate."

If appropriately planned, vegan diets, though restrictive, can provide adequate nutrition even for children, according to the American Dietetic Association and the Institute of Food Technologists."

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Min,

Whatever your may be, it is critically important that your foods contain essential amino acids (the nine aminos not manufactured in your liver), as well as live vitamins and enzymes.

There are many vegetarians and vegans who eat nothing but "junk food," just as many meat eaters do.

It is rare that I find a parent who can tell me that his or her children are eating more than one portion of fruit each day. Is this the fault of the child, or the parent who does the food shopping and preparation?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jean
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-07-06 09:45:17
Comments: Well I do understand the point you are trying, and I do mean trying, to make about the Joshua Jackson milk ad, but I have to disagree with you. The ad is selling milk, and as all of the other celebrity ads do they made reference to what the celebrity, or the character they portray is most known for. I agree that teachers seducing students is a bad thing anyone would. But people need to stop blaming the media for the evils of the world. It is up to parents to educate their children, and teach them the difference between right and wrong. It is a proven fact that most people that find themselves in these kinds of situations were abused in some way prior to them.

All of this doesn't really matter though, because the truth is your group is only making such a big deal about this for publicity. But no matter how much you gripe and complain about all of this it is not really going to make a difference. The world will still spin, people will still drink milk, teachers and students will continue to have affairs (which in light of the huge violence in schools issue, I would rather the loner boys were sleeping with their teachers rather than out buying guns) and groups like yours will continue to whine.


Name: Lindsey
Website:
Referred by: AngelFire
From: Utah
Time: 1999-07-06 08:48:58
Comments: In my opinion your little crusade to ban Joshua Jackson's milk ad is absolutley ridiculous! Just because some uptight people at "Not Milk" don't like milk they have decided to not let the rest of the population make their own decisions. No one is forcing milk down your throats so why are you doing this to us? You are just trying to get people to stop drinking milk. And it obviously didn't work because after browsing through your site I went downstairs and got myself a glass of milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lindsey,

One day you'll probably become a mom yourself, and pour milk down the throat of your helpless baby just as your mom did to you.

All your life you've been hearing the GOTMILK messages. Here, drink this, it's good for you.

What part of this site got you in the mood for your nightly dose? Was is the 750 million pus cells per liter, the 59 different hormones in every sip, or the fact that eighty percent of milk protein is casein, a tenacious glue?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: MARGUERITE MILLER
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sayville, Long Island. NY, USA
Time: 1999-07-06 01:52:55
Comments: I really enjoyed your site. It was very informative. I have been a vegetarian for almost eight years now, but I have only eliminated dairy from my diet about two months ago. I can't begin to describe how much better I feel and how much more energy I have. I have no children as of yet, but we are beginning to discuss having them. I would like find out more about raising vegan children, both health wise and social issues. If anyone has any personal experiences they can share or recommendations for reading, please e-mail them to me. Thank you very much. -Marguerite

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Marguerite,

I subscribe to a chat group called: Vegetarian Parents. For subscription information contact:

Veg-Parent@envirolink.org

Here is an interesting post I received today:

Vegan Children: Healthy and Happy

Most people have been taught that children must eat animal flesh and dairy products to grow up strong and healthy. The truth is that children raised as vegans, who consume no animal products, including meat, eggs, and dairy, can derive all the nutrients essential for optimum growth from plant-based sources. Children not only don't need animal products, they're much better off without them.

Consider this: Many children raised on the "traditional" American diet of cholesterol- and saturated fat-laden hamburgers, hot dogs, and pizza are already showing symptoms of heart disease -- the number one killer of adults -- by the time they reach first grade. One epidemiological study found significant levels of cholesterol and fat in the arteries of most children under the age of five.(1) Children raised as vegans can be protected from this condition. They are less likely to suffer from childhood illnesses such as asthma, iron-deficiency anemia, and diabetes and will be less prone to ear infections and colic.(2)

A vegan diet has other benefits, too. E. coli, the deadly bacteria that killed four children and sickened more than 600 people in Washington state in 1993, was traced to tainted meat in a fast food restaurant. According to the Centers for Disease Control, there are more than 20,000 E. coli infections from meat every year in the United States (3). A vegan diet protects children from the pesticides, hormones, and antibiotics that are fed to animals in huge amounts and concentrate in animals' fatty tissue and milk.(4)

Nutrition in Vegan Diets

Nutritionists and physicians have learned that plant products are good sources of protein, iron, calcium, and vitamin D because they can be easily absorbed by the body and don't contain artery-clogging fat.

•Protein--Contrary to popular opinion, the real concern about protein is that we will feed our children too much, not too little. Nutritional biochemist Dr. T. Colin Campbell, author of the ground-breaking China Study, has shown that excess animal protein actually promotes the growth of tumors--and most people on a meat-based diet consume three to 10 times more protein than their bodies need!(5)

Children can get all the protein their bodies need from whole grains in the form of oats, brown rice, and pasta; from nuts and seeds, including spreads such as tahini and peanut butter; and legumes, including tofu, lentils, and beans.(6)

•Iron--Few parents know that some babies' intestines bleed after drinking cow's milk. This increases their risk of developing iron-deficiency anemia since the blood they're losing contains iron.(7) Breast-fed infants under the age of one year get sufficient iron from mother's milk (and are less prone to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome). Formula-fed babies should be fed a soy-based formula with added iron to minimize the risk of intestinal bleeding. Iron-rich foods such as raisins, almonds, dried apricots, blackstrap molasses and fortified grain cereals will meet the needs of toddlers and children 12 months and older. Vitamin C helps the body absorb iron, so foods rich in both, such as green, leafy vegetables are particularly valuable.(8)

•Calcium--Drinking cow's milk is one of the least effective ways to strengthen bones. Too much protein, such as the animal protein fed to children in dairy products, actually causes the body to lose calcium.(9) In countries where calcium intake is low but where protein intake is also very low, osteoporosis is almost non-existent.(10)

Cornbread, broccoli, kale, tofu, dried figs, tahini, great northern beans, and fortified orange juice and soy milk are all excellent sources of calcium. As with iron, vitamin C will help your child's system absorb calcium efficiently. (11)

•Vitamin D--This is not really a "vitamin" but a hormone our bodies manufacture when our skin is exposed to sunlight. Cow's milk does not naturally contain vitamin D; it's added later. Vitamin D-enriched soy milk provides this nutrient without the added animal fat. A child who spends as little as 15 minutes a day playing in the sunshine, with arms and face exposed, will get sufficient vitamin D.(12)

•Vitamin B-12--This essential vitamin once occurred naturally on the surfaces of potatoes, beets, and other root vegetables, but the move away from natural fertilizers has caused it to disappear from our soil. Any commercially available multivitamin will assure adequate B-12 for your child. B-12 is also found in nutritional yeast (not to be confused with brewer's or active dry yeast) and many fortified cereals. (13)

Dangers of Dairy Products

Children do not need dairy products to grow up strong and healthy. The director of pediatrics at Johns Hopkins University, Dr. Frank Oski, says, "There's no reason to drink cow's milk at any time. It was designed for calves, it was not designed for humans, and we should all stop drinking it today, this afternoon."(14) Dr. Benjamin Spock agrees that although milk is the ideal food for baby cows, it can be dangerous for human infants: "I want to pass the word to parents that cow's milk . . . has definite faults for some babies. It causes allergies, indigestion, and contributes to some cases of childhood diabetes."(15)

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that infants under one year of age not be fed whole cow's milk. Dairy products are the leading cause of food allergies. In addition, more than two-thirds of Native Americans and people from Asian and Mexican ancestry and as many as 15 percent of Caucasians are lactose intolerant and suffer symptoms such as bloating, gas, cramps, vomiting, headaches, rashes, or asthma.(16) Many people become lactose intolerant after age four. For these people, animal proteins seep into the immune system and can result in chronic runny noses, sore throats, hoarseness, bronchitis, and recurring ear infections.(17)

Milk is suspected of triggering juvenile diabetes, a disease that causes blindness and other serious effects.(18) Some children's bodies see cow's milk protein as a foreign substance and produce high levels of antibodies to fend off this "invader." These antibodies also destroy the cells which produce insulin in the pancreas, leading to diabetes.

An estimated 20 percent of U.S. dairy cows are infected with leukemia viruses that are resistant to killing by pasteurization.(19) These viruses have been found in supermarket supplies of milk and dairy products. It may not be merely coincidence that the highest rates of leukemia are found in children ages 3-13, who consume the most dairy products.(20)

Resources

•Pregnancy, Children, and the Vegan Diet by Michael Klaper, M.D. (Gentle World, Inc., P.O. Box U, Paia, Maui, HI 96779, 1994)

•The Vegetarian Mother and Baby Book by Ross Elliot (Pantheon Books, 1986)

•Vegetarian Baby (McBooks Press, 1984) and Vegetarian Children (McBooks Press, 1987) by Sharon Yntema

•The Compassionate Cook by PETA and Ingrid Newkirk (Warner, 1993)

•Vegetarian Times magazine (4 High Ridge Park, Stamford, CT 06905)

•Vegetarian Journal (P.O. Box 1463, Baltimore, MD 21204)

•Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), 5100 Wisconsin Ave., NW, Suite 404, Washington, DC 20015; 202-686-2210

•La Leche League, 1-800-LA LECHE

References

1.Akman, D., et al. "Heart Disease in a Total Population of Children: The Bogalusa Heart Study," Southern Medical Journal, Oct. 1982, 75(10), pp. 1177-81, and G.S. Berenson, et al., "Cardiovascular Risk Factors in Children. Should They Concern the Pediatrician?" American Journal of Diseases of Children, Sep. 1982, 136(9), pp. 855-62. 2.Klaper, Michael, M.D., Pregnancy, Children, and the Vegan Diet, 1994 edition, pp. 2-3, 36, and Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, news release: "Top Doctors Warn: Milk Can Cause Health Problems," September 29, 1992. 3."A Disease That's a Bite Away," Washington Post, February 13, 1994. 4.Klaper, Michael, M.D., Pregnancy, Children, and the Vegan Diet, 1994 edition, p. 2. 5."Want Long Life? Lay Off Meat," Tucson Citizen, October 4, 1991. 6.Klaper, op.cit., pp. 12-14. 7."Doctor Spock Adds Clout to Warnings About Cow's Milk," Wall Street Journal, September 30, 1992. 8.Klaper, op.cit., pp. 17-18. 9.Ibid., pp. 15-16. 10."Don't Believe Everything Dairy Industry Tells You," San Luis Obispo Telegram-Tribune, February 10, 1993. 11.Klaper, op.cit., pp. 15-16. 12.Klaper, ibid., p. 58. 13.Klaper, ibid. 14."Dr. Spock Joins Milk's Detractors," Washington Post, September 30, 1992. 15.Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, news release: "Top Doctors Warn: Milk Can Cause Health Problems," September 29, 1992. 16."Don't Believe Everything Dairy Industry Tells You," op. cit. 17.Ibid. 18."Don't Drink Milk?," Washington Post, February 9, 1993. 19.Klaper, op.cit., p. 42. 20."Vegan From the Cradle: A Medical Doctor Explains Why an Animal-Free Diet for Babies Is His First Choice," Vegetarian Times, Sept. 1987.

To Receive a FREE Vegetarian Pack, e-mail your request along with your name and mailing address to: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

Peta2@norfolk.infi.net

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jessica
Website:
Referred by: AngelFire
From: Arizona
Time: 1999-07-06 01:34:12
Comments: I would like to say, that banning Josh's milk ad is not only wrong, it's stupid. I mean you guys are just looking for a reason to ban it because he is so cute. I know for a fact it has nothing to do with rape. It was part of the show last season. Don't you get that? Jessica

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jessica,

We get it.

Whether you are in sixth grade, are twelve years old and have a crush on your teacher, or in tenth grade, and have lust-filled emotions, your teacher should know better.

Teachers having sex with their students should be punished. Even if both parties agree to have sex, the act is still against the law.

Dawson's Creek appropriately PUNISHED Miss Jacobs, Josh's English teacher. She knew that what she did was wrong and resigned.

Josh is not the guilty party here.

The DAIRY INDUSTRY is promoting statutory rape by referring to that television incident.

Not only do they refer to it, but the have your "Josh" gloating about it.

We get it, and we are not amused.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lexie Clark, Lisa Bersani, Katie Fischer (tour guides)
Website: The Oregon Legislature
Referred by: AOL
From: Salem, Oregon
Time: 1999-07-06 00:24:51
Comments: It was so interesting to find your web site! Were you aware that Oregon's State Beverage is Milk? May be you should contact one of our legislatures and make them aware to the dangers of milk. We would not want the majority of Oregon's people to die from milk!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Hello, Lexie, Lisa, Katie and everybody else from the "Beaver State." I just consulted my almanac and learned that your state motto is:

"She flys with her own wings."

Does that means that you ladies are doing a lot of chirping and buzzing around, having lots of interesting things to do? It's nice to know that your legislature conducts important business like naming an official state drink. In 1843, the first white settlers came to oregon and found 100 different Native American tribes. Any record of how many were drinking cow's milk?

Author Virgil Hulse is from Oregon. He was a state milk inspector for 50 years, serving the public by keeping the milk safe.

Virgil, author of the best selling book, "Mad Cows and Milkgate," recently helped Oprah successfully defend and win the much-publicized cattleman's suit.

All Americans owe a debt of gratitude to Dr. Hulse. Without his brilliant work, we might not have known how many different types of surprises are routinely found in your state drink.

Let's see...there's bovine leukemia virus, bovine immunodeficiency virus, salmonella, E. coli, camphlobactor, lysteria, strep, staph, mycobacterium paratuberculosis, yersinia, and possibly prions.

Add to that the pus, allergenic proteins, powerful growth hormones, fat, cholesterol, toxic metals, pesticides, antibiotics and dioxins, and you've got a state drink that is "for the birds!"

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alessandra
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Italy
Time: 1999-07-05 22:47:46
Comments: Banning Josh Jackson Milk Ad was a stupid and useless thing to do. People who disliked it are old, short-sighted and definetly care too much about little and non-important things as this is. If you really want to do something for yourself and your environment (and this is something "NotMilk" is trying to do, I guess), fight more serious battles. Oh, and by the way, I think "NotMilk" is total crap and should be deleted from the web.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Bonjourno, Alessandra! Welcome!!! I see that you are from Italy.

Doesn't the Supreme Pontiff reside in Italia? We tried to get the Pope to condemn the milk ad, but could not get a quote from him.

There are, however, 19 Archbishops in America, and His Eminence, John Cardinal O'Connor was furious in his condemnation of the Joshua Jackson ad.

Not only is the promotion of statutory rape a danger to society, by eroding its values, but the promotion of milk and dairy products is a message that severely damages the health of its users.

The dairy industry is guilty on two counts. They will one day have to answer for these REVELATIONS.

So far as I am concerned, those who betray the health and morals of young children can burn in hell.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Anna
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: PA
Time: 1999-07-05 09:41:56
Comments: I would like to say that the banning of the Joshua Jackson milk ad would lead to nothing except sales going down ... believe it or not. It may seem silly to think that people would actually drink milk because of him or any other celebrity but it is the truth. If it wasn't the truth then why would celebrities be in milk ads? So why let your sales drop by this harmless ad? I do not feel that what is written in the ad has any influence on people, teens in particular, however, Joshua Jackson is setting a wonderful example just by sitting there and sporting that cute milk mustache smile. So I don't see anything good being accomplised by banning the ad. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely AnnaGS27@Yahoo.com

Name: Jamie
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Niagara Falls
Time: 1999-07-05 01:13:42
Comments: All I want to know is how Joshua Jackson's "Got Milk?" Ad enduces rape. If anyone has the answer please feel free to e-mail me and tell me the answer. Thanks, Jamie

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jamie,

Joshua Jackson's television character was seduced by his high school teacher. When teachers have sex with their students, that is called statutory rape, even if both parties consent.

Television recognized that the act was improper, and the teacher resigned.

The dairy industry (wink/wink) delighted in taking advantage of the well-publicized television episode and had Jackson extol the virtues of milk. Jackson's words were:

"Especially if you want to impress, let's say, an older woman."

What part of statutory rape laws are you and others having trouble understanding, Jamie?

When predatory adults lure minor children into sexual relationships, they should not pass go and they should not collect $200.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jason Samilski
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Burlington, Ontario
Time: 1999-07-05 00:57:49
Comments: Hello everyone!

I am in the midst of starting a program called EAT THIS! The program talks to secondary school students about how foods choices effect our health, the environment, and animals; and presents the issues in a fun, interactive, humerous fashion. The program should be launching its first phase in September which involves travelling around Ontario, Canada presenting. In phase two which will start September of 2000, we will be going on a Canadian tour with the program.

While we travel, we will also be networking for a national youth organization which aims to promote plant based lifestyles through education.

We are working on an intensive media promotion aspect which we feel will be useful to our cause.

If anyone is interested in affiliating their group with EAT THIS! or if anyone is interested in helping out/having us come to a school. Please e-mail me.

In good health,

Jason Samilski EAT THIS! Program Director jsamilski@hotmail.com

Name: Tabitha Burston
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Sarasota
Time: 1999-07-04 04:18:25
Comments: I think you guys shouldint make such a big deal about so what he said on there you guys didn't like your just a buch of old people who wouldn't understand any way so just leave it alone because Joshua Jackson is hot!!!!!!!!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Tabitha,

The judges appreciate your enthusiasm. Despite your inability to spell or properly conjugate your verbs, we still have decided to give you ten points for correctly signing your name.

Take heart, Tabs...other visitors from your camp have achieved lower test scores..

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: kevin x
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: massachusetts
Time: 1999-07-03 02:30:20
Comments: thank you for the message.

Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George,B.C.
Time: 1999-07-03 01:43:55
Comments: Behold the power of CHEESE! *Concentrated amounts of survivable hormones and proteins causing cancer, diabetes, Crohn's, CJD (human mad cow disease) among other illnesses. Behold the power indeed! *1 pound cheese = 10 pounds milk

Name: Natalie
Website: Natalie's Joshua Jackson site
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-07-03 00:20:15
Comments: What's your problem with Joshua Jackson's milk ad? There is more sex and drug promotion on the news and in movies than in this ad! If people are too, well, stupid and ignorant to change their opinions on a subject just by a few lines on an ad JUST about milk, then...what kind of a society is this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Natalie,

You wrote that there's sex and drug promotion in the news and in movies. Would you give me one example of any movie or television show that ever promoted statutory rape?

Dawson's Creek did not promote statutory rape.

The dairy industry ad does!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Stacie
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From:
Time: 1999-07-02 22:14:52
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NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Stacie,

Please forgive me. I thought that supporters of this dairy industry ad were mindless dingbats with nothing important to say. You've demonstrated how wrong I was.

Regards,

The NOTMILKAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pa
Time: 1999-07-02 19:27:08
Comments: A freshman at Eagle Rock Junior High won first prize at the Greater Idaho Falls Science Fair, April 26. He was attempting to show how conditioned we have become to alarmists practicing junk science and spreading fear of everything in our environment. In his project he urged people to sign a petition demanding strict control or total elimination of the chemical "dihydrogen monoxide." And for plenty of good reasons, since: 1. it can cause excessive sweating and vomiting 2. it is a major component in acid rain 3. it can cause severe burns in its gaseous state 4. accidental inhalation can kill you 5. it contributes to erosion 6. it decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes 7. it has been found in tumors of terminal cancer patients He asked 50 people if they supported a ban of the chemical. Forty-three said yes, six were undecided, and only one knew that the chemical was water. The title of his prize winning project was, "How Gullible Are We?" He feels the conclusion is obvious.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

That "JOKE" has been making its way around the INTERNET for three years. What a tribute to the greater Idaho Falls school district that they would award first prize for such a plagarized endeavor.

What scientific observation or discovery won second prize? Did a senior fill a balloon with helium and note that it was lighter than air, or prehaps a junior flew a kite in an electrical storm and discovered a strange new power source?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Paul Morris
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
Time: 1999-07-02 10:07:44
Comments: Wow this is great stuff. It's about time the public was told the truth! Keep up the great job you are doing. May God bless you in these endeavors. May every child be blessed with parents smart enough to read and understand what you are talking about. The world needs more people like you who are willing to dedicate their lives to such a worth cause.

Name: Bonnie
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 1999-07-02 09:36:59
Comments: Hello Mr Cohen, just wanted to pass this on, as I know you already know of this. Watching my FAV - Foodtv - saw the www.ILovecheese.com. So as an interested person, I go to look. All about the cheese, the favorite of the month, not really what is has in it. Well, I wondered. So I decided to e-mail them, and I said "Behold the Power of cheese", well " Behold the power of rBGH. Just a concerned female."

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Bonnie,

I missed a golden opportunity to comment on the new dairy marketing campaign:

"BEHOLD, THE POWER OF CHEESE."

Thanks for making me laugh!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Julie Lilly
Website: Julie's Little Web
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ca Pismo Beach
Time: 1999-07-02 09:09:12
Comments: So glad to see this site. Thanks sooooooo much... I totaly agree and have a web site to also educate people. Thanks julie

Name: June Cleeland
Website: SEX, SOY MILK & THE PSYCHIC
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-07-02 08:52:54
Comments: I was just reading an ad in my local newspaper placed by a 'CHILDREN'S HOMEOPATH'. The lady writes " I can help with recurrent colds, ear infections, allergies, asthma, skin problems, fatigue and ADD. Ring Now!". Possibly I should set myself up in a similar business and when clients arrive I just hand them a leaflet which says 'GET YOUR CHILDREN OFF ALL DAIRY' - Yup.....I'm wasted as a Clairvoyant.......

Name: William Grant
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Newport News, VA
Time: 1999-07-02 07:20:52
Comments: Dear Notmilkman: You and your followers would probably be interested to learn that prostate cancer has joined the list of chronic diseases strongly linked to the non-fat portion of milk. The leading hypothesis is that the calcium reduces the amount of circulating vitamin D, which has been shown to fight prostate cancer. Papers on the topic can be found at MedLine (PubMed) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ Search under milk prostate cancer, also milk heart disease for another disease linked to milk, lactose in this case. Keep up the good work.

Name: Noel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1999-07-02 02:44:38
Comments: Robert, My, Guestbook comment #1213 (Andie) sure doesn't speak too well for the positive correlation of milk consumption and mental acuity... Something to ponder. Noel

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Noel,

Dr. Robert Cade's publications in the Journal of Autism identify a milk hormone, casomorphin as a cause of Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD).

Perhaps those who urge me to "get a life" like Andie might spend some time here and review the real science. It's not too late!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: SmithwithY
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From:
Time: 1999-07-02 02:24:14
Comments: While I am generally a very healthy person, I chose to elminate dairy products a few years ago. I've also been a vegetarian for several years. I rarely even have a cold now and generally feel healthy with lots of energy most of the time. I learned that the excess protein in milk took calcium from my bones while it was being processes by my kidneys. The decision was an easy one to get off dairy products. I read labels looking for casein and avoid them like the plague.

Name: Kerry Hurley
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-07-02 00:03:39
Comments: Dear Mr Cohen- You claimed that one of the causes of poor skin condition is milk consumption. That's an interesting "fact." I foudn it so intreging, I took your information to three local dermatologists who specialize in acne and acne prevention. Their comments range from "That's bull!" to "His evidence is incorrect." In a nutshell, here is their info. (Keep in mind that all three of them are M.D's and alumnae from reputible unaversities.) Poor skin is not related to food consumptions. Ingesting oily foods, greasy foods, or unhealthy foods will not make you breakout. Internally digesting pus does not make your skin condition worsen. Breakouts are related to dirt or other foreign material that becomes imbedded in pores. Your skin then reacts by sending up oils to flush out the object. If the oil cannot remove the dirt, then an infection under the skin builds and pus is your body's second way of expelling the infection. Mr. Cohen, please consult with an MD before giving advice as you did.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kerry,

My hat is off to you. In one day, you were able to personally visit and consult with three dermatoligists and get their expert opinions to share with us.

Not only are Dr. Moe, Curly and Larry, M.D.s, but they are, in your words, "alumnae from reputible unaversities."

It will please a lot of teens to know that zits occur because dirt gets lodged in their pores. Now, thanks to your three associates, all teens have to do is wash their faces with soap and water and their zits will disappear. Now, why didn't I think of that?

This makes sense. Little kids don't get zits 'cause their parents make 'em wash their faces. Adults do not get zits because they know better, sometimes washing their faces three or more times each day.

These three dermatologists of yours might be nominated for a Nobel Prize. Soap and water? We'll call it:

"The all-wet hype-o-thesis."

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: andie carter
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: dc
Time: 1999-07-01 08:43:30
Comments: this also has to do with the dawson's creek add. first the add has been out for all most a year. and also my 5 year old nice thought it was funny. she thought it ment he wanted older people to be his friends. and i bet you when kids read it the won't even think that it has any thing to do with it being rape. i thought it was so funny that some one in the right mind would even think that is what the milk people are tring to do. please get a life!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Andie,

It warms my heart to know that your five-year-old niece can have intellectual discussions with her aunt. What is her opinion of total global thermo-nuclear disarmament?

My nine-year-old daughter fully understands the ad in question. Seems that kids are learning their sexual lessons a bit early these days, and their bodies display a sexual maturity that is troubling.

Eighty percent of African-American nine-year-old females now have breast development. The same phenomena is seen in sixty percent of Latinos and 40 percent of caucasians.

GOT MILK? GOT HORMONES. Got cheese? Got concentrated hormones.

Got more milk pustache ads? Brainwash more kids into an unhealthy lifestyle.

The newest milk industry ad campaign?

BEHOLD: THE POWER OF CHEESE. Indeed!

Regards,

The MOTMILKMAN


Name: jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Covington, VA
Time: 1999-07-01 07:55:27
Comments: ohhh...so the dairy industry is making me think that way? Well, for your information, I don't even drink Milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Imagine that? Like the scarecrow in Oz, seems like you've got a brain!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1999-07-01 02:00:57
Comments: Regarding all this Dawson's Creek/Dairy Industry stuff, here's a better idea as part of our overall NOTMILK health regimen: Blow up the TV! -----------

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Noel,

Nothing wrong with your television set.

It's the creatures who twist plots and create their own story lines that we have reason to protest.

Dawson's Creek punished the teacher who committed statutory rape. It's the dairy industry public relations firm (BSMG) who took it all very lightly, exploiting the situation and Joshua Jackson in the process. They sent a message to all of the teens who are urged to write to this guestbook. Read the GUESTBOOK letters written previous to yours. The authors are Jennifer, Brittany, Brandi, Sarah, Maria, Kerry, Lin and Kimberly. Do you see an obvious patern here, Noel?

This is all part of the not-so clever GOTMILK campaign.

Their website is urging teens to write to this guestbook. However, the gutless wonders refuse to debate me on national television.

A BIG SECRET

Noel, don't tell anybody, but each person leaving a message on this guestbook also leaves a unique electronic signature. I know the computer terminal, operating system, etc. These terminals are like fingerprints and no two are alike.

Jennifer, Brittany and Kimberly's posts were all made from the same computer and internet account. Jennifer is from Florida, Brittany is from Virginia, and Brandi is from California.

GOT INTEGRITY?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Covington, VA
Time: 1999-07-01 00:44:38
Comments: I strongly disagree with your belief that the "Got Milk?" advertisement feature Joshua Jackson from Dawson's Creek promotes statutory rape. This ad was meant to be a light-hearted joke that only Dawson's Creek viewers could understand.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jennifer,

EXACTLY! The message was clear, Jen. When I was going into college, women had a bit more liberated attitude towards sexual exploitation. However, how can you help being brainwashed. $Millions of dairy industry dollars have reached their mark. You are living proof.

If you watch Dawson's Creek, you would realize that the plot of the show was in no way trying to promote statutory rape.

I agree! However, the dairy industry TWISTED the plot and made statutory rape something to laugh about. It's no joke, Jennifer.

The plots realistically portrays young people's life in America. Sadly, that does include statutory rape. This shows displays the facts; it doesn't promote unacceptable behavior. This meant to be viewed by teen and adult viewers. It is the parent's responsibility to teach their child/children values, not the media. Today's society is more liberal and open about issues. If you cannot accept this, do not watch the show or subscribe to magazines. Maybe this world would be a better place if people would strive toward world peace, dimishing poverty, or improving education instead of petty situations. I may only be 17, but I am mature enough to know right from wrong. I also know better than to complain about insignificant issues.

The DAIRY INDUSTRY lies are not insignificant. They send you unhelathy messages, Jennifer. Nations with the highest rates of milk consumption have the highest rates of osteoporosis, heart disease, diabetes, asthma and breast cancer. Their method is to use sex to lure you into using their unhealthy product.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Brittany
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: VA
Time: 1999-06-30 21:25:27
Comments: Okay. i, like many other people who write in this guestbook, would like to voice my opinion on the Josh Jackson milk ad. i have been a fan of Dawson's Creek, as well as of Josh Jackson, for a long time. Do you honestly think that kids are encouraged to have affairs with their teachers by one little ad? It was meant to be funny!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brittany,

I missed the punchline.

Is it Daisy Feuetes' milk ad in which Mz. sex appeal says:

"Girls, let's talk about the 'F' word. I do not find statutory rape funny, Brittany. Joshua Jackson clearly promotes statutory rape. The boys and girls at BSMG are hilarious! they write brilliant ads and influence our culture, or lack of it, in the process. Perhaps I just have no sense of humor.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Brandi vad
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ca
Time: 1999-06-30 19:35:19
Comments: hello-I think that Joshua Jackson's Got Milk ad is just fine. I mean, if you look at some of the other Milk adds...DENNIS RODMAN, and say that Joshua Jackson is not a good influence, then you must have troubles. Yeah, Like Dennis Rodman is really a good person to look up to. It is mainly teens that look at the Milk adds and collect them anyways so it is really no big deal. You shouldn't make such a big deal. What are you really going to do about it? Nothing. You can't go around to peoples house and take all their Milk adds off their room. So if you are going to get pissed off at the Joshua Jackson one, you should look a little harder at the other ones, I bet you will find eeros. Dennis Rodman, he has a tattoo around his stomach. OH what a good influence you are to me! Plus there are just a little more people who enjoy the Got Milk adds so you are just a little out numbered there. See....If you don't like them, then who cares? You are just one out of how many? This world is too liberal, and it is because of people like you!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brandi,

Am I being set up here? Is this a "dumb blonde" joke? You're calling me too liberal because I criticize an industry which promotes milk consumption by using sex?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sarah Millar
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Canada
Time: 1999-06-30 07:28:44
Comments: I was checking my e-mail when I recieved one that said you did not approve of Josh's milk ad. Before surfing to your page to voice my opinion, I did the research and read the article on why it is a bad milk ad. My opinion, however, stayed the same. I am nearly seventeen years old. I have watched Dawson's Creek since it began up here in Canada and I have also been drinking milk all my life. I see nothing wrong with Josh's ad, it made me laugh. One top of that I can relate to his character on Dawson's Creek more than any other. It was because of his "illicit" affair with his teacher that I began watching. No, I didn't have an affair with a teacher of mine, but I did have a relationship with a much older man. It wasn't because of milk, or Dawson's Creek or the ad (in fact the ad came out after we ended). It happened because he was what I needed at the time and I consented (although legally I am too young to consent to anything). There was nothing wrong with it as far as I am concerned. I am sorry that you cannot take Josh's ad as the joke it was meant to be. All the other ads are jokes or blurbs of who the person is, why should Josh's be any different? This is just my humble opinion, but I thought I'd voice it anyway. Sarah Millar

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sarah,

When I was your age we had a saying: "Never trust anyone over thirty."

As you grow older, you gain wisdom from life's lessons.

Adults pass laws to protect children. Children sometimes do not understand these laws.

It is very easy for an adult to "seduce" a child. Adults who do so are called predators. As children grow older, they gain tools and each tool becomes an additional layer of insulation against those who might "use you" without concern to your spirit or psyche.

I have three daughters and want all of them to have a strong sense of identity, including a happy and healthy life in which they make choices about the things that they do with their own bodies.

As a father, I want their happiness. All adults should share in a desire to protect all children. That is more than just an unwritten rule, Sarah. That's the law.

If a male teacher has sex with his student, and if a female teacher has sex with her student, it's against the law, and it's an act that will invoke fury and demand justice by other adults.

Television appropriately dealt with the incident.

The dairy industry did not.

The milk marketers exert a strong influence upon young children. To make this act an acceptable one, this industry promotes an illegal act and changes the collective psyche of all teens.

I do not Blame Joshua Jackson for this. He is an actor. I do not'blame the writers of Dawson Creek. In their own way, they wrapped up the story and punished the teacher.

The dairy industry gets all of my venom. They should get yours too.

They send an unhealthy message to you, by using sex. Thank you for visiting my page. Now that you are here, read some of the real science. The whymilk and gotmilk messages might be fun, but they are dangerous lies.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: maria
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: pennsylvania
Time: 1999-06-30 05:09:03
Comments: I don't see anything wrong with the ad...you can take it however you want to. It is all in how you interpet the ad. Act like grownups...allready and stop thinking like a raging hormonal 13 year old.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Maria,

You've just ruined my day.

I have two teenagers and they both watch Dawson's Creek and are both Joshua Jackson fans. They also read this column.

They laughed when they read that you are accusing their dad of "thinking like a raging hormonal 13 year old."

Just for the record, Maria, eighty percent of milk protein is CASEIN, the same glue used to hold a label to a bottle of beer and the same glue used to hold together the wood in your furniture.

The FDA allows 750 million pus cells in a quart of milk, so we are amused by Joshua Jackson's milk pustache.

Drink milk and you ingest pus with hormones and glue.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kerry R Hurley
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Virginia
Time: 1999-06-30 04:50:10
Comments: Dear Sir: I would like to take this opportunity to tell you how remiss I feel you were in your defamation of the Joshua Jackson "Got Milk" ad. It is my understanding that the purpose of your organization, "Not Milk," is to educate people about the dangers of drinking milk. It is also my understanding that you hope to reach a younger demographic in the hope of preventing them from doing permanent damage to their bodies. The demographic that you hope to reach with your information regarding milk is the same demographic that views the show "Dawson’s Creek." Sir, did your organization honestly believe that by degrading not only a character of one of the hottest shows on TV, but by slandering the actor as well, that you would accomplish anything toward your demographic? If that was your belief, sir, then you are sadly mistaken. Your argument against the Joshua Jackson ad lacks validity and consistency. You stated that "Joshua Jackson wants to ‘impress older women.’" This sir, is in fact not true. If you want that sentence to be valid, you must revise it to state that "Pacey Witter (the character) wants to ‘impress older women.’" You see, sir, the character on "Dawson’s Creek," didn’t want to impress the older woman but instead found himself quite attracted to her and suddenly caught in a quite illegal liaison. Yes, the incidence was statutory rape. The show handled the issue in a manner that was mature and educational. The teacher left the area and upon her brief one-episode-return in the show’s next season, the two characters discussed the situation and it was admitted that their relationship had been not only illegal, but morally wrong. The writers of "Dawson’s Creek" handled the situation in the best way possible. The fact, sir, is that statutory rape does occur and relationships between teachers and students are happening in our country. While this is not a good thing, it is something that happens and denying it makes the situation worse. The staff at "Dawson’s Creek" maturely addressed a topic that had been diligently avoided by other writers and producers. The illegal relationship between "Tamara Jacobs" and "Pacey Witter" was addressed in a manner that every member of the "Dawson’s Creek" staff should be proud of. Mature and honest discussion of problems makes awareness more effective and debate does not cause the problem to worsen. When you said "Joshua Jackson wants to ‘impress older women.’" You defamed the integrity of a fine actor who was simply supporting the Milk industry. It is quite possible, sir, that Mr. Jackson had no idea what caption would be placed on his picture. It is also possible sir, that the people who wrote the caption found it to be non-offensive. And while you, personally, have something against milk and the milk industry, taking this ad and twisting an innocent caption into a huge debate is simply juvenile, in my opinion. I give you some examples, sir. You came down on Mr. Jackson because he supports the Milk industry by doing a "milkstache ad." Would you, too, come down on the actor who portrayed the Marlboro man for many years just because his company sells cigarettes and cigarettes can cause cancer? There is a Budwieser commercial where Clydesdales play football. Would you suggest that everyone of those horses (or their owners) be punished because they are supporting a company which sells alcoholic beverages which may lead to drunk driving accidents? Would you, Mr. Cohen, ask that all celebrities who have been seen using cell-phones be removed for public eye because cell phones and driving are a dangerous combination? Yes, sir, these examples are quite a stretch. As is, in my opinion, your argument surrounding the Joshua Jackson ad. You have said "The dairy industry promotes two crimes. The first can send an adult to jail." This is not true, sir. The dairy industry promotes no crime in a simple milk ad. What you tend to read into that last sentence is your own business. However, the last sentence in the ad reads: "Especially if you want to impress, let's say, an older woman." Mr. Cohen, this does not promote statutory rape. It doesn’t promote a sexual encounter of any kind. The sentence states that the character wishes to impress someone. Be it with a strong physique or high intelligence, the majority of teenagers wish to impress their elders. The definition of "impress" according to the 1990 edition of the Lexicon Universal Encyclopedia is this: "Impress: to have an effect on (the mind, emotions, etc.); to incite admiration." Neither of those definitions have any sexual content. And sir, if you can find sexual content in those definitions, I would love to hear them. You said in a statement that "The second (crime) can send a "user" to the hospital." Mr. Cohen, the "Got Milk" ad promotes no such "crime," And using the term "users" insinuates that milk drinkers are on the same societal level as cocaine addicts and other druggies. While you have information backing up your statement that milk is addictive, it is not necessary to slander those who drink it. Mr. Cohen, some people say that sex is addictive (a theory which you cannot deny. After all, you have said that you have more than one child.) Does that mean that anything where sex is alluded to should be removed from public view? I think that, if that were the case, sir, you would be sorely disappointed in the world. Mr. Cohen, this ad does not "brainwash" the consumer into purchasing milk. The ad may promote an interest in the show "Dawson’s Creek," but that does NOT encourage statutory rape. On a more personal note, I found the information provided on your site, sir, quite educational. However, I will continue to drink milk because I find it to be a product that I love. I feel refreshed and invigorated on a warm day after I’ve had a cool glass of milk. I can’t deny that I indulge in chocolate chip cookies and a glass of milk every once in a while. A little Ti Chi in the morning along with a bowl of healthy cereal (and milk) and I’m set to go. I exercise and I try to eat right, although in today’s world that isn’t always possible. I eat beef and I enjoy it. I drink skim milk, sir, and I enjoy it, too. After all, Mr. Cohen, there are many things that I could do to my body to cause it harm. I could smoke, but I don’t. I could do drugs, but I don’t. I could become a glutton and triple my weight and die from heart failure, but I won’t. Why do I abstain from these things? My body is my temple, Mr. Cohen, and I take care of it. But, despite all your facts and figures, I have yet to find that milk does anything but enhance the performance of my body, Mr. Cohen. If I ever think that milk could be the cause of a physical malfunction, I will surely refer back to your quite informative site and review your information again. But, sir, while there is the far-off possibility that I may use your site as a medical reference, I still will not support your in your argument against the Joshua Jackson milk ad. If you could make your argument more valid, then I might agree with you on some points. But until that time, sir, I find your argument quite childish and uninformed. Please revise some of your statements to make them accurate. Do not defame the integrity of an actor, but instead, strike out against your intended target; the milk industry. Do not make assumptions based on loose definitions of a word, sir, but instead review the sentence in question and find the proper definition of a word in order to make a sound argument. And sir, before speaking out against a show or a particular segment of a show, please research that show so your arguments will be free of logical inconsistencies. My suggestion? Perhaps watch the episodes in question so that you’ll be properly informed. When you speak in a mature manner, as did "Dawson’s Creek," your audience will listen, Mr. Cohen. When your statements are true and unbiased, you will have a profound impact on the people who hear you. Until that time, sir, you are simply another person who has taken your complaint to the highest level you can. One amongst millions, sir. Sincerely, Kerry R. Hurley

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kerry,

From the volume of personal EMAIL, I see that my Johsua Jackson column is making its rounds on the world wide web.

I will take this important opportunity to reach out to all teens on a subject near and dear to them:

ZITS are oily/greasy pus-filled pimples which break out across your faces and bodies.

One liter of milk can contain up to 750 million pus cells. Every sip of milk contains estradiol, progesterone, and testosterone. The average American, from milk and dairy products eats every day the equivalent cholesterol as is contained in 53 slices of bacon.

GOT MILK? GOT ZITS!

Eat pus with hormones and fat and cholesterol and you're gonna get 'em. The cure is also quite simple.

Take the 14 day test (NOTMILK) and your zits will be gone.

Joshua Jackson has betrayed you.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lin Kremenak
Website: Pacey and Andie's Sparring Page...
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 1999-06-29 22:37:44
Comments: I'm sorry but what I just read about Joshua Jackson is uncanny and it sounds like his ad is being put down for ludicrous reasons. It was taken all out of context and I for one am sick of people turning things into what they're not and just try to enjoy themselves for some time. I'm 18 years old and I would love it if an older person would look up to me. Which is what the ad states. Every teenage and younger kid would. Yes, on the TV show Dawson's Creek he did have an illegal affair with a teacher...but they fail to see what came of that. His character came through that predicament quite nicely...stood up for the teacher, and now the character Pacey has a steady relationship and it's a MATURE one. Having older people look up to you doesn't mean anything deragatory in my book. I think Joshua made the perfect spokesmodel for teens to drink milk...your whole site seems to turn people off of milk altogether...and being the aid skim milk drinker that I am, I think that's an even worse crime than saying something in an ad. All kids need milk...and the level of kids you may think the ad's are disrupting more than likely don't read magazines or can't read at all. What they need is milk...'milk does a body good'...and I believe that. Everyone needs it, they need to grow up, and realize that no one's at fault here...and please don't go blaming an innocent actor who just signed up for the ad not knowing what trouble it would cause. It's not his fault at all and I feel sorry for him having his ad run through the gutter when it was even given an award...I'm proud of Josh....and to everyone who drinks MILK!

Dear Lin,

The dairy industry is selling a message to you, brainwashing you through a series of milkstache ads.

"http://notmilk.com/deb/070899.html

Brainwashing occurs when the victim is not aware of the predator's message.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: ???
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ????
Time: 1999-06-29 11:43:45
Comments: What the (censored) are you talking about? You (censored)!!! Milk is like the best thing to drink. That is some (censored) your trying to preach.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear friend,

Is it the hormones in milk (testosterone and adrenalin) that give you such rage?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Seems that too much milk/dairy destroys the ability to read and
comprehend! Besides... on NOTMILK you are writing... not talking!

Perhaps that (along with lack of honesty/accountability) is why these
types can't remember their names or Email addresses.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and victim


Name: Kimberly
Website: Your column about Joshua
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Florida
Time: 1999-06-29 07:21:48
Comments: What the HECK are yall thinkin that you can put down the Got Milk ad's, Especially Josh Jackson's? What gives you the right? That ad didn't say anything to act like you should date a 40 year old. I am totally disgusted by you people!!!!!

Dear Kimberly,

We are a bit disappointed in ourselves too. After all, we tried to get the Pope to comment about the inappropriate milk ads. The best we could do was get a letter of condemnation from the Archbishop, John Cardinal O'Connor.

When an adult has sex with a minor, that's statutory rape, even if the sex is consensual. Today (June 28, 1998) the Chicago Tribune reported that the Milk Education Board has filed complaints with the attorney general and Federal Trade Commission because the milk ads are misleading, deceptive and promote a crime.

Joshua Jackson wants to "impress older women." The dairy industry promotes two crimes. The first can send an adult to jail.

The second can send a "user" to the hospital. Got Milk? That's unhealthy, and your body will pay the price for that crime!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alice
Website: Nutrition for Dummies :)
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-06-28 21:19:12
Comments: Hey, Notmilkman! I have another question for you: why are milk drinkers so nasty? Here we are trying to extend their lives, and improve the quality of their lives, and all we get is grief! :) On a more serious note, in response to your milk inspector friend who's been posting here lately, there are numerous studies and reports and numbers and facts and figures, and to tell you the truth, after a while my vision gets blurry and I get bored. Who cares if the mercury is 4 parts per million, billion, gazillion?? When I get Confused by all this Information available, I just sit back and ask myself, "What is the most common-sense answer here? Hmmm, if Nature (or God, or whatever) had intended us to consume cow's milk, why weren't we born as calves? If Nature had intended us to eat animals, why can't we kill them ourselves and eat them raw like lions and other predators? Why do we have someone else do the unpleasant work, and then cook it and prepare it until it no longer resembles an animal? Even then, it often sickens us immediately, as we can't handle bacteria such as e.coli. Yet a dog (or lion, or other natural 'predator') can eat raw meat laying out in the sun for a few hours with no ill effects... hmmmm, this is starting to appear as if perhaps it's not very 'natural' after all...." Nature knows what it's doing! If you consume something that makes you sick (i.e. milk, meat, drugs, etc.) then your body's trying to tell you something! Thanks Notmilkman! Lots of us love you!! We blow you un-phlegmy kisses!

Name: Terrance & Monique Griffiths
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Time: 1999-06-27 06:01:40
Comments: Great web site!! My wife read 'Milk, The Deadly Poison" after I mentioned to her that I had read about milk's link to osteoporosis from a book entitled " Your Health, Your Choice ". I was looking for more up-to-date info about this topic in the libary with VERY LITTLE luck. I have some well educated and stubborn friends who wanted some well documented & researched evidence. I decided to search on the net and to my amazement, I found Robert Cohen's homepage. I am very impressed with the amount and quality of info on this vital topic. I intend to share my valuable find with all of my friends. Keep up the honest work! Let the truth be known!

Name: Aomi
Website: Animal Rights Action Site
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maine
Time: 1999-06-27 04:56:35
Comments: It's too bad that so many people are unaware of what's wrong with milk. This site has a lot of information and tells it like it is. I will definitely recommend it to others. But I think you should also include how cruelly dairy cows are treated, because they are given hormones to make their udders larger, which is painful for the cows, and unhealthy for everyone. This is a photo to give everyone an idea of what cows go through so people can have their milk. Great site!

Name: Katie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-26 05:57:08
Comments:

I just wanted to add to Andrew Wilson's comment about milk alternatives.

They ARE out there, people. I don't really care for soy milk, but I found that rice milk is actually quite tasty!

Trader Joes makes some great vanilla rice milk, and Rice Dream makes excellent rice milk as well. (I prefer the vanilla flavor because it's a bit sweeter.

Honestly, folks, try giving up dairy. You'll look and feel so much better!

Here's to healthy living!

~Katie


Name: Andrew Wilson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-25 18:17:11
Comments: Mr. Notmilkman, I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoy your webpages. I think you are highly credible, and when I say I just surfed in, actually, I have had your webpages bookmarked for quite some time so I keep coming back to them over over again. Ever since I stopped drinking milk, I feel better, look better, have received positive comments from people in the gym, and from the family. I used to laugh at my mother and father when they started drinking soy milk, but when I read your webpage many moons ago, it was a slap in the face to me about milk. Now, I wonder why I ever drank cow's milk in the first place, and I wonder how much healthier and better I would have been in life if my mother--bless her soul--had filled up me up during the first two years of my life with delicious soy milk instead of cow crap milk. Even though soy still tastes strange to me, it does not taste bad, and I have discovered from the health store, soy chocolate protein drinks with absolutely no dairy in them that, when added to soy milk, taste better than any cow's milk ever did. Don't berate the movie stars for brainwashing the young people--after all, movie stars are just good--looking talented (well-meaning?) individuals who really don't know everything about everything and if the world did not make gods of them, did not worship them--not realizing that movie stars have to go to the washroom, pull their pants and take a dump like the rest of us 9-to-5 commoners--they would have no power over anybody about anything--especially about drinking milk and wearing that damnable ugly, pus-tasche. A word of advice, and we don't tell people what to do: don't respond to that Dale person anymore. He may be a milk tester or inspector, and we're happy he is doing his job, and doing it well. He is trying to wear you down. That's his job. He gets paid to do that. He's the 'other side'. Do not waste your fine intellect and talent, and God- given talent on rebutting this guy everytime. He is doing the work of his father--the dairy industry--and its perrogative is to break you. We (I) don't like being attacked so when I am, I always have good people around me who can retain their rationality and reign me back in before my tongue can do vast damage (ie get into a argument) where I will say things I will be sorry for later. You have done nothing wrong--your behaviour is explimentary--but take the time that you would have put into these rebuttals (he posted 15 times to your guestbook?, what a dick) and put it into your kids--into giving your kids a hug. That's what most important. Right? Am I right or am I right. Tell you what: I will pray for him that he can lose these seeds of harbour and sullen resistance that he has for you. Tell you what's most important. Here goes. It's not that your the Not MilkMan, or that I am someone you will never see, or that Arnold Schwarzengger is the most famous bodybuilder that has ever lived, or that Tyra Banks is one gorgeous (Beautiful babe with a bod that would make men commit innumerable crimes to possess her) fox--that's brainwashed--or that Stephen King is the crowned master of terror, or that Bill Clinton is a pretty good president. There are only two things most important in life that people will remember you long after you have crumbled to dust, awaiting ressurection and judgement: YOUR CHARACTER And your character (how you conducted yourself and helped people)--yours--stands as a shining light. Keep up your excellent work.

Name: Nicole Powers
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: 1st CA now AZ
Time: 1999-06-25 13:07:21
Comments: Hey, bottom line here folks (REALITY CHECK!), the air is poison, the water is poison, and now the organic food is under attack, due to the cowpie soil, and until people WAKE the f!!! up, then were going to stay in the position we are in. Stop talking, start doing. But, no, everybody wants to sit on their laurels and B!!!!. Lose the tude and get a grip! Everyone's been brainwashed (still are), and do not want to have to spend time educating themselves to a different, new, positive, happy, alternative lifestyle. Good God, I would have to "change". Scary, huh? From reading these letters, after I wrote my first letter, I have learned something. 0 blood types do not tolerate milk. I am an 0-. WOW. (read my message from before, dated today). Some of you folks are pretty scary creatures. You ought to ponder your own defensive lifestyles. Made me think of a Colorado high school reading some of your messages. I agree about starting changes with caffiene, but, what about sugar (and bringing Stevia into the country as a replacement, as it is a natural plant,not man made crap). The we can work on tobacco, and man made drugs, oooh, and while were at it, let's get back to Prohibition, and eliminate booze. That's a poison. No-one gives a s!!! about that. Point is, It's Never Gonna Happen. So quit your b!!!!!!, unless you plan on geting off your duff to do something POSITIVE! : ) Happy Huntin

Name: Nicole Powers
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Orange Co., CA. Now Chandler, AZ.
Time: 1999-06-25 11:44:25
Comments: I am "lactose intolerant", so I would not drink milk anyway. When I was a child my family used to try to get me to drink it, but it made me feel like gagging. I hate milk. In fact, I starved for my first six months,until a doctor suggested to my mom to put me on soy. Then I "thrived", according to my mom.

Name: Fembot O'Loughlin
Website: THE CASEIN CRAVERS HOMEPAGE
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-06-25 07:08:00
Comments: I am starting an I LOVE CASEIN CLUB - anybody that wants to join can contact me at: Resident's Lounge, MATER PATER HOSPITAL, PO Box 1179, Maroubra NSW 2035, Australia. I drink milk purely for the casein - as the casein is a glue I find that it is actually keeping all of my internal organs firmly in place...AND it's great for Alzheimers because you don't lose any brain cells...they stay right where they are baby!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Fembot,

History recorded the first "I LOVE CASEIN CLUB" 4,700 years ago. Hieroglyphics record that casein was used to mummify and preserve human flesh. In 1922, English archeologists actually discovered a perfectly preserved lox alongside a mummified Tutankhamen. After chipping away the casein, they enjoyed a breakfast of bagels and cream cheese. Alas, the ancient curse of the Pharoah's tomb claimed two victims. They died four days later from an E. coli infection: TAINTED CREAM CHEESE!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Katie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-06-25 02:49:42
Comments: Robert,

Found this and thought this was good news!

http://www.pcrm.org/news/milk_mustache_complaint.html.

Plus, I LOVE the new look of the site. Much easier to navigate, and alot cleaner. Keep up the great work!

Katie
(please remove the no-spam to reply to my email address)


Name: Sita Upadhya Murali
Website: Sita Ka Ghar
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Srinagar, Kashmir, Bharat
Time: 1999-06-24 22:25:37
Comments: I'm doing a report for school on nutrition and fitness, and I want to include some things on how milk consumption causes asthma and other fitness-related ailments. I checked your "asthma" page under "evidence" but I didn't find much information on how milk actually causes asthma. Could you direct me to some more information? Thanks. By the way, ever since I gave up milk nearly two years ago my asthma has been completely dormant.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sita,

You are not alone. Every person who I have known with asthma who has given up milk and dairy products finds the cure.

Here is why.

Eighty percent of milk protein is CASEIN, a tenacious glue and powerful allergin. This protein is mucus-forming. Our bodies produce histamines to its presense. The histamines result in mucus. The mucus clogs the bronchioles of the lungs so that breathing becomes difficult, if not impossible.

ALL people are affected by this protein. For some, the effects are mild. For others, the effects can be deadly.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-24 04:22:09
Comments: In the process of doing my duties yesterday I traveled 150 miles in total. I collected retail food samples from a total of four stores in my area, (over two counties) properly sealed, packaged, labeled and filled out collection records for all, and shipped them to our laboratory in Madison. I also licensed a grade "A" farm in the morning, and visited a new parlor milking operation in the afternoon to conduct a pre-inspection. Since my home is also my office (at substantial savings to the taxpayer, I might add...) I am able to check and respond to things like E-mail or discussion if I happen to be here. In the end, the taxpayers of Wisconsin got a full days work, and I was also able to fulfill my responsibility to educate the public to the best of my ability.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENTS:

Dear Dale,

You were one busy inspector yesterday, and we are all very proud of you!

Allow me to ask a few questions, please?

Did you wear gloves while taking samples? Do the gloves fit? Did you drop one of the gloves? Did you cut yourself? Would the bloodstains in your driveway match your DNA?

You posted 15 times to this guestbook in an eight hour period. That averages out to once every 32 minutes. How is the gas mileage on your state-owned Sikorsky helicopter? Do you have alibis for each segment of the 150 mile flight?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-06-23 18:32:32
Comments: Robert, You question how it is that Mr. Anderson can find time to make so many posts to your guestbook? Let me explain if I may. Part of any Dairy Inspector's job is to instruct the ignorant when it comes to questions regadring milk and food safety. I'd say he's found someone (you) in real need of some instruction and he is doing a pretty good job. Regards, Jim

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

I am certain that the good people from the state of Wisconsin including the "cheeseheads" will take great comfort in knowing that their tax dollars are invested by having a milk inspector write 15 letters to the NOTMILKMAN, instead of doing the job he is paid to do.

Makes sense to me! After all, what would happen to their state economy if Dale found unsafe levels of Dioxins or mercury in the milk?

Perhaps their most prudent investment would be to have Dale sitting at a desk, surfing the internet, rather than in the field learning the truth about milk and dairy products.

PS-I bet that no posts from Dale appear today. Occasionally, a man has to do an honest day's work--you know, for appearance sake.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Gee... such a (typical?) waste of government time and payroll...
surfing the net on taxpayors dollars instead of surfing the
barnyards looking for problems.

Oh... Jim... speaking of "instruct the ignorant"...

Seems that Mr. Anderson should shut off his overheated computer, find a
full length mirror for YOU to up for him, and then he can "educate"
two ignorant birds with ONE stone.

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster and victim


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 05:53:14
Comments: Bob says: "You are a State tester. Start testing." Bob, do you really think that the words "tester" and "inspector" are synonymous? They are not. We have a completely separate Bureau of Labratory services that does the testing. I, as a Food Safety Inspector, have a broad spectrum of responsibilities, but actually running tests is not one of them. Neither is it part of my responsibilities to determine testing policies for the Department. Personally, I have no objection to testing. One wonders if they will end up with the same results that resulted in England, according to the web page you pointed to. Less than a trigger level of .004 mg/kg, which was determined to not be a problem. Do you know of the story of the boy who cried "wolf," Bob?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

Yes, I know that story well. Isn't that the one in which ultimately, the hunter heeds the little boy's cry and comes and shoots the big bad wolf?

In this case, your milk is the big bad wolf...and ultimately, somebody you work with will be shamed into testing the milk by this little boy.

Whether you're a tester or inspector or Internet junkie (15 posts in one day sets a record on this GUESTBOOK), you still have the responsibility of testing the milk. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

I promised to leave every post on this GUESTBOOK. However, 15 posts during office hours. Does that come under the job describtion of Inspector or Tester? Hey Dale, you're doing a fine job of testing my patience!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 05:47:06
Comments: Bob says: "In your previous post (#1184) you questioned my math. I stand by my numbers, and believe that you are in error." The question is not in your math, Bob. The question is in your claim, compared to the FDA web page presented earlier. You claim the trigger level was lowered to one part per million. The web page says the trigger level is five parts per *billion*. Are you actually claiming both figures are one in the same?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

We have established the following facts.

1) You are a state milk inspector.

2) You and your department refuse to test milk for hazardous chemicals.

Whether it's one part per billion or one part per million, how are we going to know unless you guys test the milk?

Besides posting fifteen messages to my guestbook, as you did today, what the heck do you do in a day's work?

FDA be damned! I showed you how they recently changed the standard for an antibiotic, increasing it from 30 parts per billion to 300 parts per billion. We can talk numbers all day long, but FDA has no credibility when it comes to establishing safe ranges for antibiotics.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 05:39:42
Comments: Bob says: "Mg/Kg means milligrams per kilogram. Since there are 1000 milligrams in a kilogram, that's one part per thousand." Both my dictionary and my cohorts here agree that there are one thousand grams in a kilogram, and one thousand miligrams in a gram. Would you care to do the figures again for all to see?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

In post #1184 I wrote:

"I am not a math major either. Perhaps I made an error. Let's work this out together, OK?"

It turns out that you are correct.

There are 1 million milligrams in a kilogram. Therefore, there were four parts per billion of mercury in those milk samples and not four parts per million.

Thanks for setting me straight.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 04:37:23
Comments: Bob said: "After genetically engineering the bovine growth hormone, Monsanto learned that cows were getting mastitis, painful ulcers on their udders which resulted in an increase in pus, blood and bacteria in milk." The definition of mastitis is "ulcers," Bob? What is the source for this definition, please? While it can be said that an ulceration of the udder may cause mastitis, it is definately a stretch to claim that all mastitis results in ulceration of the udder.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

In order to easily explain mastitis to members of Congress, in 1992 GAO issued a report on mastitis and described the broad range of inflammations of cows udders in this fashion.

Test herds reacted to Monsanto's new genetically engineered hormone with a disproportionate number of cases of acute mastitis. These ulcerated udders scared a number of people in the dairy industry, particularly in your state of Wisconsin. Senator Russ Feingold actively spoke against Monsanto's hormone. Pete Hardin, editor of the MILKWEED, a dairy marketing newsletter, printed stolen files detailing the horrors of Monsanto's new hormone.

Actually, mastitis is quite common to cows, but not so easily recognized. Acute mastitis is more easily identified because the udder appears more abnormal. FDA has written that if one cow in a hundred cow herd has acute mastitis, chances are that between 15 and 40 additional animals in that same herd also have mastitis.

In addition to more blood, pus and bacteria, the milk from cows with mastitis might also contain a higher pH, making it more alkaline.

It is not fair to say that all cases of mastitis cause visible damage to udders. It sure would be easy if that was the case. American regulators allow 750 million pus cells in every liter of milk, while in Europe, the standard is much lower; only 400 million. A recent survey of dairy farmers showed that most preferred the higher level.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 04:33:18
Comments: With all due respect, Bob, you really haven't answered this question of mine in the context it was asked: "They will find the answer is five parts per billion. Would people be wrong for coming to the conclusion that your one part per million claim is a distortion of what is really happening out in the field?"

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

In your previous post (#1184) you questioned my math. I stand by my numbers, and believe that you are in error.

You are a State tester. Start testing. Without your diligence, we'll never know the truth. Please let us know the levels of dioxins in Wisconsin milk, won't you Dale? Same goes for the mercury.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 04:28:28
Comments: Bob says: "However, in England, they do test milk for mercury and have found samples to include mercury levels that are toxic to humans, four parts per million: http://www.maff.gov.uk/food/infsheet/1994/no44/table1.htm." Four parts per million, Bob? Are you sure? The chart says that less than .004 mg/kg was found. I lay no claim to being a math expert, but two other people have looked at that and come to the conclusion that that's not a correct answer.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

I am not a math major either. Perhaps I made an error. Let's work this out together, OK?

Mg/Kg means milligrams per kilogram. Since there are 1000 milligrams in a kilogram, that's one part per thousand.

If the level was 1.0 there would be one part per thousand or 1,000 parts per million. Are you with me?

If the level was 0.1 there would be 100 parts per million.

If the level was 0.01 there would be 10 parts per million.

If the level was 0.001 there would be 1 part per million.

The chart said: 0.004 mg/kg which would be four parts per million.

That's the way I read the chart. Do you and your friends still disagree?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 03:57:02
Comments: It's probably a good thing you got a negative response to Dioxin, Bob. It probably would have been embarassing to have to ask if the state of Wisconsin was testing the milk for the presence of dry farts! As to what is done in the case of contamination or adulteration of food, sampling, testing and investigation would proceed until the source of that contamination was identified. Steps would then be taken as necessary to remove the source of contamination. But, the issue you pressed so loudly in this discussion was mercury. What were you told of mercury testing?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

I was told that the State of Wisconsin is not testing milk for the presense of mercury, and has never done so.

I was also told that the State of Wisconsin is not testing for the presence of dioxins either, despite the fact that the World Health Organization recently stated that 90% of the dioxins entering the human body come from milk, dairy products, and meat.

I did not ask about your "dry farts" or other anal discharges. I suppose there's a good reason for the filter that must be placed between the collection vats and the bulk holding tank.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington DC, originally NYC
Time: 1999-06-23 02:39:34
Comments: Finally I can make an entry here (I hope) -- didn't work last times. Seriously good work going on here. Bravo!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Noel,

Great news! Now that school is over and millions of kids are surfing the net, you should be able to POST comments any time...between 3:00 AM and 5:00 AM.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-23 01:03:37
Comments: Bob said: "For gosh sakes, Dale, you are a state dairy inspector for Wisconsin. Doesn't the buck stop in your pasture? How could you not know whether you are testing milk for the presense of mercury? Isn't this, er, like, a one-phone call kinda thing for you?" Does the buck stop with me? No, not when it comes to development of department policy. That is up to higher levels of departmental management, as they work on food safety issues and develop policy. How would I not know? I don't know all of what is going on in a department that numbers in excess of one hundred food and meat inspectors in the field, not including office support staff. To be inundated with the results of all of the tests and policy discussions that are routinely done by our department would only cause for confusion and overload on the part of the inspectors. That's why information like that is best available through our central office. Not only can they potentially answer the questions, they are better able to deal with any potential followups. As to if it's a simple phone call, really it's simpler than that! I can forward your request if and when you send it to me, as one other person has done.

Now, don't you feel silly browbeating a simple field inspector who has been honest as to his knowledge and offered to forward your concerns to higher authority?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

Yes. I do feel silly browbeating a simple field inspector. I'm ashamed of my behavior.

I just called Ben Brancel, the Commissioner of Wisconsin's State Department of Agriculture. His phone number is 608-224-5014. I am nominating you for a special award, Dale. Together, you and I can make a big difference in this industry, and I am going to give you all of the credit.

We should immediately begin a testing program for Mercury, lead, iodine and selenium in milk. Hopefully, all of these toxic materials are below the unsafe standard level.

Did you hear about the ban on meat and dairy products in Belgium? People are pretty upset in Europe. They are testing the milk for unsafe DIOXIN levels. The news isn't good.

Sandy Chalmers called back and let me know that nobody is testing milk in your state for DIOXINS. That's not such a good idea. After all, people should know what they are drinking, don't you think?

Dale...I do not want to browbeat you. I want you to be a HERO!

Let's work together on this and test milk. The people will thank you, and I would imagine that your co-workers will applaud any discoveries we make. Dairymen will also appreciate knowing whether their milk is safe or not. Just think... If we find unsafe levels of dioxins in milk, we can...er, what will we do, Dale?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: David Rietz
Website: DORway to Discovery! Say NO to aspartame
Referred by: From the WEBmaster of NOTMILK
From: Goose Creek, SC
Time: 1999-06-22 22:30:33
Comments:
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The following seven letters have been posted by
Wisconsin state dairy inspector, Dale Anderson.
In order to fully understand and follow the dialogue
between Dr. Anderson and the NOTMILKMAN, the letters
should be read in order of submission, beginning with
post #1173.
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DAVE RIETZ, Webmaster

Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 20:59:49
Comments: This question went unanswered: "1) What is the "Tolerance or Safe Level" for PENICILLIN in milk?" People who are interested will find the answer at:

http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~ear/MA85addd.html

They will find the answer is five parts per billion. Would people be wrong for coming to the conclusion that your one part per million claim is a distortion of what is really happening out in the field?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

The FDA'S safe level is not based upon science or research. That protocal is subjective, and arbitrary. FDA continues to change their definitions and ranges, subject to the amounts of antibiotics found in milk. The previous response to your question (POST #1177 ) illustrated how the "safe level" to an antibiotic was changed.

"Before approval, FDA allowed residues of 30 parts per billion of this antibiotic to show up in milk samples. Unfortunately, milk samples tested out at 300 parts per billion. What did FDA do? They changed the standard! The new standard is now 300 parts per billion!"

I have no respect for FDA'S "safe level," and said so in my previous post. That is why I choose not to list their standards.

Do these increases in antibiotics have a significant effect? You're darned right they do. The Dannon company cannot use milk treated with 300 parts per billion...the yogurt cultures die.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 19:54:25
Comments: You said: "In your previous question (Guestbook entry #1173) we discussed the presense of mercury in milk and I asked whether you, a licensed inspector from the state of Wisconsin, are testing milk for mercury. You did not respond to my question, so I assume the answer is no." But Bob... I *did* respond to your question. I said I did not know, and that I would be willing to forward the question to someone who may, as long as the request came directly to me via E-mail so I could forward the query to them verbatum so there would be no misunderstanding. Why is it you feel the necessity to both lie about and distort what others are saying?

NOTMILKMAN'S RESPONSE:

Dear Dale,

Eisenhower said, "We are not flying spy missions over the Soviet Union" and we belived him, even after Gary Powers was shot down. Richard Nixon said "I am not a crook." At the time, we believed him. Clinton said, "I did not inhale," and we elected him to America's highest office. Early on in Starr's investigation, Slick Willie said "I did not have sex with that woman." (Jay Leno shows that tape almost every night!)

Now, you have the chutzpah (do they use that word in Wisconsin?) to come to this guestbook and accuse me of lies and distortion?

For gosh sakes, Dale, you are a state dairy inspector for Wisconsin. Doesn't the buck stop in your pasture? How could you not know whether you are testing milk for the presense of mercury? Isn't this, er, like, a one-phone call kinda thing for you? Somebody's playing games here, and it's not me. I see that when you are backed into the confining corner of a tiny veal-calf's stall, you come out fighting. Please answer the question put to you.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 07:51:24
Comments: The following questions should be together and answered in order so guestbook readers can fully understand the issue and question at hand: 1) What is the "Tolerance or Safe Level" for PENICILLIN in milk? 2) How does that figure compare to what you have claimed in part on your web pages the FDA lowered the "Tolerance or Safe Level" to? 3) Do your web pages point out *exactly* what that the true amount in question #1 is? 4) Do your web pages have a link to the FDA web page that gives "Beta Lactam Test Methods for Use Under Appendix N of the PMO"? 5) If the answer to either question 3 or 4 is "no," why not?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

After genetically engineering the bovine growth hormone, Monsanto learned that cows were getting mastitis, painful ulcers on their udders which resulted in an increase in pus, blood and bacteria in milk. Monsanto arranged to have their top scientist, Margaret Miller, hired by FDA where she reviewed her own research. Aware that dairymen would have to treat cows with more antibiotics, Miller simply raised the allowable levels of antimicrobials farmers could put in milk.

FDA CHANGED THE STANDARD!

Miller arbitrarily increased the allowable level by one hundred times -- from one part per hundred million to one part per million!

On March 16, 1994, a letter signed "concerned CVM employees" was circulated to members of Congress, GAO, Dr. David Kessler (Commissioner of FDA), the Inspector General of the United States Richard P. Kusserow, and Michael Hansen of Consumer's Union. The letter in part reads:

"Dr. Miller (wrote) a policy on use of antimicrobials in milk. She picked an arbitrary and scientifically unsupported number of 1 part-per-million as being the allowable amount of antimicrobial in milk permitted without any consumer safety testing. This is for any antimicrobial. A cow could be treated with several antibiotics and each one would be permitted to be in milk at a level of 1ppm without additional consumer safety testing. Effects of the different antibiotics could be additive and this is not taken into account."

Michael Hansen of Consumers Reports testified and brought attention to Congressional committees that 52 drugs are known to be used as antibiotics to treat mastitis. According to Consumer's Union, FDA had approved only 30 of those antibiotics. Milk is routinely tested for the presence of six different antibiotics. Farmers are aware of the antibiotics being tested. Do you imagine they might be tempted to use any of the other 46 not currently being tested?

HERE WE GO AGAIN!

When something doesn't work for the dairy industry the FDA often helps private industry by changing the standard. This does not make the product any safer but it does allow the FDA to officially state that the drug residue is "well within safe levels." This is usually done at the expense of the consumer.

Margaret Miller's name recently "popped up into the news" again. It seems that FDA approved a powerful liquid antibiotic for lactating dairy cows. It is called:

LIQUAMYOCIN 200

Before approval, FDA allowed residues of 30 parts per billion of this antibiotic to show up in milk samples. Unfortunately, milk samples tested out at 300 parts per billion. What did FDA do? They changed the standard! The new standard is now 300 parts per billion!

There is evidence of both comedy and tragedy...The Dannon Yogurt Company cannot use this milk because the antibiotic kills the acidophilus which they add to their cultured product. Not so cultured, huh? FDA approved this product, and whose name do you think they have as contact for more information? None other than Margaret Miller, Ph.D. Her phone number is 301-827-5282. Let Dr. Miller know how happy you are about arbitrary changes in antibiotic protocols. Give her number to your congressman and demand an investigation.

You ask why I have no links to FDA sites or standards. I hope the above answers your question.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 07:35:02
Comments: I do not know if it has been the policy of our department to test for mercury in milk. We as inspectors take routine samples of both raw milk and pasteurized finished product, but we are not always informed of all tests or the history of such tests. For those that are truely interested, they can directly E-mail me, and I will forward the query to the head of our food division for an answer.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

Thank you! We would appreciate that analyses, and promise to publish the results, after your department conducts this critically important test.

Can we expect test results in a few days? Today is June 22. We would love to have those results before July 1, just in case. If there are toxic amounts of mercury in Wisconsin's milk supply we want plenty of time to warn America not to eat ice cream during the big July 4th weekend!

Get off the computer and get to those farms, Mr. tester!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 07:28:31
Comments: Would the average person who had little in scientific knowledge be justified in questioning the credibility of a person (and his "scientific claims") who would make as blatent of an error as claiming mercury was being used as an ingredient in something like an udder wash?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

Absolutely! You got me on that one, Dale.

After reading your GUESTBOOK POSTS (#1173 & #1174) the "average person" will now have the facts about this very controversial subject. Thank you for helping me to bring truth to the issue of mercury in milk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 07:22:26
Comments: You said: "Mercury actually is finding its way into milk, and this is something that is of great concern to consumers, dairymen and dairy inspectors." What is your proof that mercury is getting into the milk? That states are taking preventative measures to prevent a potential contamination does not prove the contamination is actually happening.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

In your previous question (Guestbook entry #1173) we discussed the presense of mercury in milk and I asked whether you, a licensed inspector from the state of Wisconsin, are testing milk for mercury. You did not respond to my question, so I assume the answer is no .

Therefore, a simple response to your question would be that if you ignore a problem, and hope it goes away, then it really cannot possibly exist.

However, in England, they do test milk for mercury and have found samples to include mercury levels that are toxic to humans, four parts per million:

http://www.maff.gov.uk/food/infsheet/1994/no44/table1.htm

In America, there were warnings not to eat swordfish because their flesh contained mercury in the parts-per-billion range. The official government warning is to not eat swordfish more than once per month. I would be happy to see a similar warning for any product containing four parts per billion of mercury.

Four parts of mercury per million should result in a permanent ban.

I am puzzled by your response, Dale. Why are you, as a state inspector, not testing milk samples for the presense of mercury? Evidence exists that mercury is in milk, and many states have taken steps to recall manometers and feed containing this toxic metal. Mercury vapors are also contained in the atmosphere, sometimes ingested into a cow's body much the same way dioxins are ingested. Mercury is then concentrated in the body fluids of cows, to be passed on to humans.

You can make a great difference, Dale. Test the milk, please. We rely upon people like you for our safety.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-22 04:18:29
Comments: Is it true you once told a state dairy inspector that farmers in his area were using mercury as an udder wash?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dale,

Yes, Dale, I did. You are that inspector, from the State of Wisconsin. Welcome to my site. I was incorrect, of course.

You and I never discussed why I was so concerned about mercury in milk, which can be toxic to humans. I knew that there was mercury in milk and dairy products, but I incorrectly assumed that it was in a teat dip.

A few months after we spoke, I read a report from the Department of Environmental Protection It has been discovered that mercury, is highly toxic to humans, animals and the environment. Because the naturally occurring, silvery liquid expands and contracts evenly with temperature and pressure changes, it is ideal for use in such things as thermometers and vacuum gauges (manometers). However, mercury can escape in vapors, which are in turn inhaled by humans and animals. Mercury actually is finding its way into milk, and this is something that is of great concern to consumers, dairymen and dairy inspectors.

Even as early as 1996, the MERCURY-IN-MILK secret was well kept. The state of Minnesota proposed $360,000 in their 1997 budget as a way to properly dispose of mercury on dairy farms. See Point #3:

http://fscn.che.umn.edu/dairycenter/8th_Annual_Conf/Coleman-summary.htm

I'm curious, Dale. As a state inspector, are you required to test milk for the presense of mercury? Do you perform these tests? What types of assays do you use? If you're not testing for mercury as a matter of policy, may I ask why not?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cliff
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1999-06-20 10:43:17
Comments: I just read your response to Hunter regarding why would a family doctor recommend drinking milk to families etc etc. And your response (a good one) along the lines of they don't study nutrition much in school. One of your newsletters even attacked physicians credibility. My burning question for you is, what about the other Doctors, as in Doctors of Philosophy? The ones who have earned their doctorates in nutrition and other related nutritious fields?(for lack of a better term). What about their advice? I happen to have in front of me a book written by 2 noted researchers (Dr Lori A Smolin & Dr Mary B Grosvenor) and you know what they say regarding all issues around milk esp bST?; that quote unquote: "The known benefits of drinking milk outweigh the potential risks." in the chapter "How Safe is Our Food Supply?" And BTW, not that there was any need to, but I checked their dossiers, and there was no connection with them to the Dairy Industry, or Cornell University. This is just an example, but I need not quote from people who have their fancy PhD's in nutrition etc; what about your well respected and well credentialed local registered dietician? None of them carry this aggressive fear or attitude of consuming this animals bodily fluids.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cliff,

There are good doctors and there are lousy doctors, but they all have one thing in common. Upon receiving their degree, the Dean of that medical school says the same thing to each one:

"Congratulations, Doctor."

Same goes for dieticians or nutritionists. In a graduating class of 1,000 professionals, somebody has to be ranked number 1, and somebody has to be ranked number 1,000. Hopefully, your professor or healer is not #1,000. However, somebody has to be unlucky enough to either be taught by or healed by #1,000. Please consider that when you look at the cover of Smolin and Grosvenor's book:

Their book is currently ranked # 407,410 on AMAZON.COM and retails for $68.

"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0030177081/qid=929912472/sr=1-1/002-8851099-4763462

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-06-19 21:03:38
Comments: Robert, The American Council on Science and Health (www.acsh.org) has a wealth of information on the subjects that you cover here on your webpage. For example...http://www.acsh.org/press/releases/bst.html Who or what exactly is the ACSH? They don't get money from the dairy industry and they have been around for quite some time now!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

Here is the official position of ACSH on the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone:

"FACT: Giving cows rBGH does not change the composition or wholesomeness of their milk in any way, nor does it affect the amount of rBGH found in the milk."

Their conclusion is far from the truth.

After cows are treated with rbGH, levels of IGF-I increase.

ACSH conslcuded that levels of bGH are indistinguishable in untreated milk and rbGH-treated milk. They also agree with the FDA position that 90% of bGH is destroyed by pasteurization.

I challenge any ten of the best scientists and doctors belonging to this prestigious organization to a debate. They are incorrect. Credentials mean nothing when one is ignorant, and you, Jim, and the ACSH group are full of much more than baloney.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: S.McGowan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-19 05:39:51
Comments: In Robert Cohen's book, "Milk the Deadly Poison", he states that "dairy farmers are prohibited by law from selling this 'colostrum' to the public" (p.170). It seems that colostrum is available for sale. Was the law changed or does the law apply only to dairy farmers? Also, what is your opinion on what appears to be a growing 'health craze' in using colostrum as a cure all?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Colostrum from cows cannot enter the bulk milk tank. In their wisdom, government regulators recognize that this "first milk" contains enormous quantities of powerful growth hormones in addition to lactoferrins and immunglobulins.

Who would have imagined that snake-oil salesmen (wearing the hats of holistic health practitioners) would collect the colostrum, dry it, then promote it as a cure-all for every illness that plagues mankind. According to colostrum proponents, it cures AIDS, broken hearts, and halatosis.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Gaia
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Italy
Time: 1999-06-19 04:04:49
Comments: I just want to ask if every kind of animal milk produces bad effects on our organism, because i'm very fond of milk, and my breakfast wouldn't be the same without milk. My brother suffers of a chronic form of asthma, but we don't use to drink skim-milk. I also want to know if your research is limited to U.S.A. production of milk or if the damage is extended to Europe. Thank you for the attention, Gaia

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Gaia,

NOTMILK for your brother. No Parmesian cheese, no mozzerella, no ricotta...sorry. Get rid of the CASEIN (the musus-forming protein in milk and cheese) and your brother's asthma will disappear.

Those Italian cheeses are delicious. The provolone and peccorino are "TO DIE FOR." particularly for someone with asthma.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: interested party
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: minnesota
Time: 1999-06-18 23:01:31
Comments: What are your comments on organically produced non-fat milk. Also, you've commented on needed magnesium to digest the calcium in milk, but I've read up some on magnesium and you have to be very careful not to get too much; there are many side effects. Is this why vitamin D is added, to aid absorption of the calcium. Since visiting your web page, I have not had any milk, and very little dairy products. I can honestly say I feel much better. I've given it the test, had pizza once, and vegie lasagna another, and was very sick the next day. I won't go into the symptoms. I would appreciate comments on the above. Thank you and keep up the good work.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Organically produced cow's milk is a perfect food for baby cows. Take out the fat and feed it to humans, and we still eat hormones and proteins which cause powerful biological effects.

Your negative reactions came from substances other than the fat. Animal fats have slow working and long term affects on your cardiovascular system.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-06-17 15:47:00
Comments: I went to a lecture by a man called Patrick Holford last night. He is without a doubt the most intelligent person I have ever seen. He has written 14 books, established the centre for optimum nutrition and is constantly in demand to give lectures to universities and the public. His main focus was that we could all achieve optimum nutrtion and prevent all of the deseases (cancer, heart attack, osteoporosis, arthritis, asthma, down syndrome etc) through nutrition. Even deseases we consider genetic and incurable are preventable and curable. He went into the chemistry of how our genes program us and how genes in our body have to be "activated" before they can have any effect. He also said that genes that are activated can be switched off by using nutrition. He has cured people with down syndrome merely by changing their diet. He talked about one girl who had down syndrome and her IQ was 45. After 3 years her IQ was 86 and her whole body changed visually and she no longer needed any special treatment in school. He said that if you have say breast cancer running in the family then the chances are you will get breast cancer too but only if you eat the same diet as your family. I was particularly interested when he brought up the subject of dairy. He said that without a doubt dairy products cause cancer becuase of the hormones. I asked him at the end whether he thought dairy products could be the reason why Japan suddenly has westernized deseases and early sexual maturity. He totally agreed with me and said the hormones in milk are the same hormones in the human body that are responsible for height (Japanese gained an average 4.5 inches in 20 years!!!!) and general growth. He also said that dairy products cause osteoporosis. His lecture was over 2 hours and his knowledge of the human body and its chemical processes was remarkable. This man really holds the key to the future of medicine. I cannot do him justice. If you ever get the opportunity of seeing him I would highly recommend it.

Name: Tool-wielding Ape
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 1999-06-16 19:07:22
Comments: Robert, Regarding your column showing decrease in expenditures on milk since the 50's, does this correlate to lower milk consumption or increased efficiency brought on by factory farming? Were government subsidies (coming out of taxpayers' pockets) factored into the equation? Just curious. Keep the pressure on. Goliath may tumble yet.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Statistics from the United States Department of agriculture include "TOTAL EXPENDITURES FOR FOOD." I asked the same question of one member of the USDA statistics branch. His response:

"What part of 'total' are you having difficulty understanding?"

I feel confident in relying upon these numbers.

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Hunter
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Virginia
Time: 1999-06-16 02:30:33
Comments: Personally, I am not big milk drinker. However, I have a two year old who is. I understand the concerns of bacteria, pus, etc. in milk. Do these same ingredients exist in other dairy products (i.e. cheese)? Also do they exist in beef? Your column is "anti-milk" but based on comments I have read it is anti-beef and anti-cheese. Does the research support your views towards these products? Or are they the product of a animal / environmental rights movement? Also, why would local trusted family physicians ignore this and still recommend milk to families with small children? Curious in Virginia

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Hunter,

If your "trusted" physician were to recommend that your daughter eat 53 slices of bacon today, because the cholesterol would be good for her heart, would you find a new doctor?

If your daughter becomes the average American, her intake of cholesterol from milk and dairy products will be equal to the equivalent cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon for every day of her life. That's over nineteen-thousand slices per year. By age 52 that will equal one-million slices.

This is not an animal rights site. This is a people's right site. It just so happens that when we eat animal flesh, we consume their fat, cholesterol, pesticides, antibiotics, dioxins and powerful hormones.

I am suggesting that by showing compassion to animals by not eating their flesh or drinking their body fluids, you show greater compassion to your own body.

It takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Eat cheese and you consume concentrated amounts of hormones, naturally present in a cow's body. Add that to the dioxins, fat and cholesterol and you are exposing your child to some very dangerous food.

Ask your doctor how many hours of nutrition he or she took in medical school. Your "healer" has taken physiology and histology, biology and endocrinology; OLOGY AFTER OLOGY... but rarely does a doctor take a class in "food-ology."

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Peter Fulda
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Grew Up on a Dairy Farm
Time: 1999-06-15 11:48:40
Comments: Just read Chris Ruff's message posted 1999-03-09 [I am a recent newcomer]. I am slightly appalled that Chris would refer to this sight as a "screaming Web page full of one-sided opinions from a few... obnoxiously loud web site full of one-sided research and opionion... Unprofessional...". Hey Chris, just in case you ever do point your corrupted nose in this direction again, here's a REAL one-sided, unprofessional site you might like, not as loud as this one, but certainly lacking in scientific facts behind a ton of propaganda:

http://www.whymilk.com

I challenge any confused individual in search of some real education beyond the garbage the National Dairy Council rammed down our throats when we were in school to surf that sight one day, and this sight on another. Then compare the level of intelligence between the two sights. As one who grew up having to milk cows, I also had my share of the white goo shoved down my throat before I finally educated myself. What a relief it was when I learned that the best thing I could do for my health was give up a product I absolutely detested from Day 1. Sorry, but I need to applaud the noise level on this sight, especially in light of the amount of brainwashing that the NDC continuously programs an unsuspecting public with, which of course is paid for by the consumer at the check-out counter. The unfortunate truth for the Dairy Industry [as well as most of the other 'dead food' industries] is that for generations upon generations we [man] thought that cows' milk was essential to our health, until this century when modern medical research is proving it again and again that the milk is not only the world's most over-rated nutrient, but it's clearly a health detriment. The Dairy Industry finds itself in a struggle to justify its existence, which it might continue to do for a while as long as job-protecting government bodies support it and until people realize that it's also one of the most environmentally unfriendly industries that exist. Chris, by whose standard do you call this a biased site? Not only did your message get posted here, but it's at the top of the list, and as of today, June 15, it looks like it's sat there for 3 months!!!!! Do you think this one would ever get posted on the one 'over there'? Looks to me like this sight has very little to fear from posts like yours. Nevertheless, I commend you for your concern for your son's diet, and for recognizing the presence of rBGH in much of today's milk supply, which few people I know even have a clue about. However, unless your son's mother is a cow, I wouldn't even feed him the purest, highest grade, organic milk that exists. Peter Fulda


Name: Tim A Dobbs
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Mounds,Ok
Time: 1999-06-14 21:51:37
Comments: I have never in my whole life seen so much BULL put out before as I have seen from these stupid better than thou vegens and anti milk people. If you don't like milk or meat than don't eat it . But do not try to stop me from enjoying it. My family has eaten meat and drank milk all there lives and an average age for my family to live is 95 years. No cancers no heart disease all in good health. So leave us with our choice Yes I believe milk does do a body GOOD!!!.

Name: Alice
Website: GymnAlice in Wonderland
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wonderland, of course! :)
Time: 1999-06-14 18:30:41
Comments: This site is excellent. Thank you for your hard work. I was just reading over some of the other comments in the guestbook, and it would almost be funny (if it weren't so sad and pathetic) how people think you're bored or you just want to brainwash people. I wonder how much clearer they would be able to think if they abstained from animal products. Why would someone devote hundreds and hundreds of hours to creating a webpage, fighting some of the richest and most powerful industries, and seemingly get nowhere when people stubbornly refuse to WEAN THEMSELVES from their little phlegm and cancer producing habit? The only reason I can think of is because you're like me: even after seeing all this ugliness, you still believe in the good of humanity, and if you just save one person from anguish down the road (or save one cow from anguish now), it will have all been worth it. Webmaster, good luck in all your endeavors, and thank you for this webpage. Every non-believer out there: good! Please don't believe the webmaster, or me, or anyone else who tells you your precious milk and cheeseburger is killing you. Don't take our word for it! By all means, put the "Happy Meal" down, and do a little research. Find out for yourself!!

Name: Guillermo Landa Zapata
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Monterrey Nuevo Leon, Mexico
Time: 1999-06-14 12:38:33
Comments: Could you send me some of your most important information available. What comment do you have about "ASPARTAME," the substance that comes with the diet Food? Thanks for your time..

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

You can find a lot of information, simply by reading the many letters and my responses on this guestbook. Thousands of scientific studies are cited on the NOTMILK site.

For the best aspartame information on the Internet:

http://www.dorway.com

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Vicky
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-14 05:58:55
Comments: Great page!

Name: ssjfhdjsfdsfgf
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: dsgbhjdsfddhbs
Time: 1999-06-14 05:05:30
Comments: I would just like to say that you are all a bunch of pathetic losers. What kind of extremely bored people would actually create a website dedicated to bashing those of us who like to drink milk?! Dont you have anything better to do? Come on, do you really think drinking milk is in any way endangering or hurting cows? Give me a break- if anything, it is actually helping the cow that we milk it. If we diddn't, it's utters would explode! I believe in animal rights, but this is ridiculous.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Ssj,

It's utters would explode? Do you mean udders?

Do you imagine that a nursing human mother's breasts explode when she stops breastfeeding?

Your rhetorical question (do I think that drinking milk hurts or endangers cows) is both comic and tragic.

Cows get pregnant. What do you imagine happens to their male offspring? When cows no longer produce milk, what do you imagine is their fate?

Hint:

GOT BURGER KING? (Next time you take a bite of that "WHOPPER," remember that every part of the cow is used. That includes the udders, the flesh on her face...and the especially yummy tender parts where da sun don't shine. If you ask for extra pickles and special sauce, you can hardly taste the animal's blood.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Thulani DeMarsay
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Boston, MA
Time: 1999-06-12 22:15:25
Comments: Greetings Mr. Cohen, it was a pleasure to have met you in Boston last week. Thank you for taking the time to speak with me. Your information is invaluable to me. I will forward you information regarding my progress in speaking to schools and organizations in Boston. In July I will be a presenter for the Codman Square Health Center. They are hosting an event called "Holistic Health in The Hood". We are going to demystify the notion that meat and dairy are necesary for a healthy body. I will contnue to work with the Nation of Islam in offering life giving and life saving information to communities of color. I am excited about the many possibilities of having a healthier community. I will speak with you soon, Thulani (617) 971-0538 4 Alfred Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130

Name: Michelle Walker
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Thomasville, PA
Time: 1999-06-12 08:24:22
Comments: Hello, I am only a teenager and do not have facts but those of which I remember learning from significant sources and researchers. First of all, I most say I have been reading over your website for over an hour now and am simply at a loss of words. I am finding myself being concerned for what you are allowing people to read without giving both sides of your research, and letting people decide for themselves. I am a dairy farmers daughter and of one that uses Posilac too. When the decision was being discussed at our dinner table of using this product we discussed and researched all the facts from both sides of the fence. We have to make wise and educated decisions because we are only a family operation of 100 milking cows. As you probably have guessed I am very against this website, although, it isn't because I am "brainwashed" from my childhood. I do not drink the milk from the grocery store, but that which is from our on milk tank, which I must let you know is NOT pasturized. And guess what, I AM HEALTHY! Yes, I understand to some people milk may be considered a poison...it can be an allergy just the same as any other food. Although, milk is NOT a poison to the average person! It IS "the almost perfect food" no matter what anyone may think. I feel sorry for those who are being "CONVINCED?" by your website. Did you ever research into what non-pasturized milk does for the body? (like people drank it for millions of years) I most encourage you to do this, you may find some suprising facts. As fas as Posilac goes, it does not increase mastitis...we have been using this product for some time on some of our cows and we have never had an increased problem wiht mastitis. This disease is something treatable, which I let you know this milk is not sent to be processed and put on your grocery store's shelves. Mastitis is also caused by a bacteria which you can get from many sources. Please reconsider your thoughts and actions. Milk is a great thing, which I am going to proudly promote as a Dairy Princess or Alternate! Some people just need the facts, everyoe has a brain and can think for theirselves...your not letting people do this...yoou are telling them WHAT to think! A concerned dairy farmer's daughter, michelle

Name: Jr
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-06-11 17:08:16
Comments: Hwere was the statistic on 60% dairy herd having leukemia?need ref quickly

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Junior,

The source on that reference is Virgil Hulse, MD, author of "Mad Cows and Milkgate." (Now deceased).

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Randy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Manitoba, Canada
Time: 1999-06-11 13:30:49
Comments: Dear Robert, You have a very impressive web page. Congratulations and more power to Yah! We have made a number of dietary changes over the last few years and have made a few more recently. I have just returned to work after 10 months of stomach, intestinal and bowel problems. After about 4 months of numerous tests and no definitive diagnosis, (parasites? IBS? spastic colon? etc.) I stopped taking all of my prescription drugs, started taking barleygreen powder, juicing organic carrots, and within three months all of my physical symptoms disappeared! Praise God! I knew that milk was harmful as I had heard this from other pastors, but I wanted to review an in-depth study on the subject. Please let me know where I can purchase your book in Canada. Last week we decided to cut out all meat, dairy and egg products from our diet. Everyone in the family is experiencing more energy, less headaches, no sinus problems and greater mental clarity. Any open-minded individual who is willing to do a little homework (and who doesn't have some sort of stake in the meat, dairy or egg industry) can discover that (to quote an old adage), "WE'VE BEEN HAD!!" Thank you for having the chutzpah to do what you are doing! We will do what we can to spread this message out of love and concern for our neighbor. Sincerely, Pastor Randy Rondeau

Name: Jack
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-06-10 22:37:39
Comments: I think you guys are pretty lame. In my opinion, you rank down with the hate groups, the "I'm oppressed" groups, and the slime that builds on the bottom of a boat. Do you really think that ending the consumption of milk will prove to be a benefit to mankind? It is facist people like you who have children that grow up to carry a loaded gun into a public school. Your website disgusts me and I hope many other people.

Name: Janaki
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: India
Time: 1999-06-10 04:52:02
Comments: You as Americans have a lot to be proud of. But you're not the only country in the world to have a good system of democracy and freedom. There are many people who knowingly torture animals, for amusement in factory farms here and other reasons. I assume you've visited the PETA websites and know that the factory farmers also unnecessarily keep animals intensively confined and deprive them of proper nutrition, exercise, etc. There are many areas in which you fall short of your ideals, that being one of them. My country does not harm animals, nor has ever invaded another country or sent troops to a foreign land to be involved in other people's business. Just because you have the power to be a world "police" does not make you the most moral of all the countries. But I do admire the work you're doing for people here who are steeped in ignorance in reagards to dairy consumption. I personally do not drink any milk here and probably will not when I return to India either, because I now know of the serious health risks associated with it. There are many good things about tradition and culture and many bad things, too.

Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1999-06-09 23:21:26
Comments: Your weekly column is mind boggling!

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/060699.html

A bundle of inanimate material is conferred a degree. Everyone who struggled and starved to EARN a degree must be thrilled over this. Once "humanized" with the degree, the bundle of rags is used to sell poison to children. What next? Daffy Duck running for elected office?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Ron,

Daffy ran, ducked the press, said that he ate no flowers, and did not inhale. We believed every word.

He posed for a milkstache, despite the fact that he has a serious milk allergy. He praised Monsanto in his 1996 "State of the Union Address."

Soon we shall elect his subordinate, Goofy.

Regrds,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: CRAZY COW
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: I DON'T KNOW
Time: 1999-06-09 00:57:01
Comments: MILK IS LIFE

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Crazy Cow,

Any high powered or electron microscope would confirm that!

There's bovine leukemia virus, bovine immunodeficiency virus, mycobacterium paratuberculosis, lysteria, clostridium, yersinia, salmonella, staph, strep, E coli and much, much more!

Milk is teeming with life.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-06-08 14:34:37
Comments: Just a quick note to say I REALLY like the new name for the anti-dairy coalition (may be I only just noticed it and it's not so new). The "Dairy Education Board". Fantastic. Now we can get some real dairy education instead of the completely and udderly (excuse the pun) nonsense promoted by the dairy industry.

Name: Janaki
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: India
Time: 1999-06-08 09:42:11
Comments: You think America is the most moral country in the history of mankind? Please....... if I recall correctly America has one of the highest animal flesh consumption rates in the world, unlike my country which has one of the lowest. And we don't torture our cows or put hormones in them like you do. Isn't that what you're preaching against? Maybe you ought to better define what you consider "moral". I could also say a lot else but I think it would be off-topic for this site. I'm sure the dairy factory farmers are very proud of being Americans, too. They have the freedom to torture animals all they want.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Janaki,

One issue does not become the "litmus test" for all. People eat animal flesh and kill animals because of custom. I know of no people who knowingly torture animals. This is not a debate betwen killing cows, or the flies on cow's backs, or the microorganisms in theri feed. To kill any creature could be defined as an act of immorality, then we are all guilty. Those who do not eat, are the innocent ones.

This is the NOTMILK site, not the AMERICA FIRST site, but I will do my best to explain that statement.

America was established in order to give religious and economic freedom and opportunity to all. Our motto is: "E Pluribus Unum" (From Many, One). During this century, America has become the world's "policeman." We have, in our country, a system of checks and balances which include power shared by the Presidency, Congress and Supreme Court. We also have a (relatively) free press.

I have written about many of the contradictions that exist, and many of the frustrations that I have faced trying to come to terms with our system's injustices. Still, there exists an arena in which I have opportunity to do so.

When all is said and done, I could compare America's politics, economics, freedoms, educational system, social conscience, etc., to that of any current culture or historical society, and say with clear thought, that based upon my knowledge and experience, America is the most moral world power in mankind's history.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Craig
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: St. Paul, MN
Time: 1999-06-07 21:30:43
Comments: I must say I was stunned to hear all this bad news about milk. I have not been a big fan of "milk" itself for many years as I have noticed gastro problems in myself after drinking milk or eating yogurt. But I have always loved cheese and use it a lot in cooking. After all, what is life without pizza?

Seriously, I have to say my first reaction was to dismiss this as a gross over reaction, and frankly, another ploy of the enviromentalist crowd out to scathe another industry it deems harmful to mother earth.

A couple of questions come to mind: What are your affiliations to the "Greens"? Are the underlying motivations for your campaign against milk honorable or just an extension of the anti-capitalist, anti-American profit haters who can't stand rich people? Are you involved with other efforts or organizations that are about destroying major industries?

Now to claify my position: After hearing you on talk radio I was very impressed, and to be honest I really hate those milk moustache ads. As stated earlier I don't really drink milk so it was fairly easy to take your challenge of eliminating milk from my diet for one week. At a birthday party I had a piece of Dairy Queen Ice Cream cake and lo and behold in less than a half hour my stomach ached. Psychosomatic?? A trick of the mind? More experiments are needed on my part, but so far the score is NOTMILK 1, Milk 0.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENTS:

Dear Craig,

I am not usually presented with such personal questions, but try to answer them honestly when so asked.

I have absolutely no affiliation with the"Greens," but do admire their work. These are the same people who want us to have clean air to breathe, clean water to drink and healthy food to eat. I have never met an individual who does not agree with those agendas.

As for anti-capitalist, anti-America...I love this country, believing it to be the most moral in the history of mankind. I am proud to be an American. Capitalism, in its pure form is a most beautiful way of life. It is what made America what it is, and those who produce should be rewarded. I am neither anti-capilast, anti big-business or anti-America in any way.

I am adamantly against many things in our system that do not work. I believe in the adage: "America, Right or wrong." When it's right, I support it. When it's wrong, I do all that I can, working within the system to "fix" what is "broken."

I like your scorecard. Round two: Eat the same exact dinner two nights in a row. After the second night, drink a twelve ounce glass of milk immediately following your dinner. Write me the next day and relate your stomach distress and indigestion.

Round three. No dairy at all for one week. The next day, eat just one slice of pizza. Wait 15 hours and note the phlegm and your next "sludgy" bowel movement.

After the first three rounds, I doubt whether you'll want to go for four out of seven.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 1999-06-07 19:39:14
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I first heard you on the radio from New York's WOR radio station on the program, A Second Opinion in early February. By any chance do you keep a copy of these programs? If so, is there any way I can get a copy? I taped the program but I only caught about 20 minutes of it. I am giving copies to my friends and anyone else who I think may be interested. I would like a complete copy. Also, do you know of any books that can elaborate on the effects milk has on depression, mood swings or schizoprenia and other mental conditions? Keep up the good fight! As the truth becomes better known about the harmful effects of what is in milk perhaps some people will be ashamed that they put those fake milk moustaches on their faces. Will you be on any radio broadcasts in the New York area soon? I wish you could get on T.V.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

I do not announce my schedule for a number of obvious and not-so obvious reasons. Suffice it to say that the dairy industry has admitted that there are 40 employees in their media division working full time to counter the anti-dairy work which I and others are doing. Furthermore, there are millions of people that violently oppose everything I stand for.

My book is on two cassette tapes (180 minutes) and I have copies of a few talks and radio interviews which are available for nominal fees.

Please call the NOTMILK office: 1-888-NOT-MILK (668-6455).

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tricia
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: living in southern Missouri
Time: 1999-06-06 22:31:46
Comments: I am very impressed by your website and all the information provided. I have been dairy-free for approximately 1 year due to an intestinal condition. I have not found it difficult to replace dairy with other alternatives, such as soy, rice, or vegetable products. I have found, living in southern Missouri, that many people do not understand the concept of being dairy-free. This can be rather frustrating, as cheese tends to come on every restaurant selection. Many people here tend to view this life style as a trendy, 'California' fad rather than a health choice. I have given up on trying to educate people here regarding the negative of dairy, and just watch as they eat their deep-fried mozzarella sticks and frozen custard.

Name: melissa
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NJ
Time: 1999-06-06 13:13:13
Comments: I've just seen a billboard featuring the newest dairy promoter: Cookie Monster! What a coincedence that he's a puppet, huh? Wonder how many people picked up on that.....

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Melissa,

Today's column is about KERMIT THE FROG.

This age-old dilemma has challenged thousands of generations of tadpoles, fostering great debate in our swamp society:

"Should tadpoles drink whole milk to build strong frog's legs, or 2% cow's milk?"

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/060699.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Philip Cerepak
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minnesota
Time: 1999-06-06 08:46:51
Comments: My dad listened to the interview on KSTP radio and that is how I found out about this web site.I like milk, and I understand what is in it. It makes me sick. It is hard to stop drinking and I understand that there is an addicting opiate-like hormone in cow's milk called casomorphine. I am wondering, How can you eat cereal?!You can't eat it with water or orange juice. That would be gross!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Philip,

Last night my family "played" with our new MILK MACHINE.

We made our own soy milk, and it was wonderful. Today we'll be experimenting with brown rice and almonds. Watch for a future column. We added vanilla to the milk and it made eating cereal fun!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cath
Website: Just Milk It!
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Nevermind
Time: 1999-06-06 03:34:32
Comments: I am an avid milk-drinker.

Avid? I just looked up the word in the World Book and Britannica dictionaries and both describe "avid" as very eager, greedy. Must be all those hormones, Cath.

And your site didn't have much of an impact on me.

It usually has that effect on avid milkstachers like you (I visited your website.)

Many people tend to overblow things to make it seem much worse than it is.

Ah, you mean like President Clinton, who allowed his face to be used by the dairy industry for a milkstache ad, despite the fact that he would go into anaphalactic shock (and possibly die) if he ate a milk or dairy product.

But that's not why I'm writing.

You mean...you actually have something intelligent to say?

You people should do your research.

Hmmm...

Bill Clinton and Bob Dole never posed for Milk ads. The mustaches in the "President" ad were put on using a computer in time for the election. Bozell international forgot to get permission to run the ad,

Oops. How "unprofessional..." Somehow, I have a feeling that they did not take such a big chance.

but were supported by the president in their efforts.

So, let me get this straight. Clinton is so allergic, he would die if he ate ice cream, but he gladly supports a product and industry that would kill him, and others who he betrayed by wearing his milkstache?

I remember Slippery Willie telling America that he did not "inhale." Now we know he doesn't swallow!

His gag gives me the "gag response."

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Elizabeth Cerepak
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minnesota
Time: 1999-06-05 22:19:09
Comments: I really like milk, and had no idea what was really in it. Well, Elizabeth, now you do. Does pus with hormones and glue taste good? Absolutely!

When I really think about what is in there it makes me sick. I want to know why they have so many advertisements about milk. The better to sell you more of their product, my dear.

If it is so bad why do they advertise it so much? The better to make more money, my dear.

Don't they care about our health? Hahahahahahahahahaha. I've been working very hard lately, and I needed that! Thanks.

I still do drink milk, it is hard not to. That's because there is an addicting opiate-like hormone in cow's milk called casomorphine. Milk lovers crave their daily doses.

Everyone that I know tells me that milk gives you Calcium and helps build strong bones. They don't learn that in scientific journals, Elizabeth. Thery learn that from deceptive milk ads like KERMIT THE FROG'S milkstache ad. Here is what the expert (KERMIT) has to say about calcium in milk:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/060699

Is any of that true? Yes, it's all true. Tadpoles must drink cow's milk. Otherwise, when they grow up and we eat their frog's legs, their bones will not be very chewy.

Isn't there a way to get rid of the bacteria in the milk, so it is safe to drink it? Absolutely. I understand that twenty micrograms of U-235 added to a liter of milk will completely eliminate all bacterial threat. I guarantee that you will not get diarrhea with this effective preventative.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: c
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 1999-06-05 09:06:29
Comments: That's great that you have breastfeeding info on this page. Please add more! The promotion of breastfeeding is more vital than most people realize. We would all be better off as a society if more people breastfed their babies. But people need to be educated as to how important it is. I have found that most average people do not know the vast amount of benefits to breastmilk as opposed to formula.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

It's not just the positives offered by human breastmilk, but the negatives contained in cow's milk-based alternatives.

Nursing mothers should be aware that when they drink milk, they pass on negative substances to their infants, including their own antibodies produced as a reaction to these invasive bovine proteins, as well as antibiotics, pesticides and dioxins.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Johnathan L. Gustafson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Rochester, MN
Time: 1999-06-05 06:34:14
Comments: Thank you very much! I had no idea except that I knew some people had an intolerance to some dairy products. I know now that most of my physical and emotional problems are caused by dairy products. God bless you very much and thanks again!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jonathan,

It took great perception for you to recognize that, and greater courage to then admit that milk is responsible for your emotional problems. Many people might label you a fanatic....YET:

In May of 1995, The Townsend Medical Letter reported eleven symptoms resulting from milk consumption including:

Mood swings, Depression, and Irritability. The second opinion is in, and you are correct, Jonathan.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Marco Casanova
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-06-04 21:44:42
Comments: I've found you reading an italian magazine: Nexus #20,1999(New Times Magazine, italian edition) I've excluded milk from my diet before knowing you, following an empiric path,so thanks for proving my intuition. I want to know if it's available your book translated in italian. thankx. Marco Casanova

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Marco,

"MILK-The Deadly Poison" is in the process of being translated into Italian, French, Spanish and Portuguese.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Clarrisa Pinkerton-Smythe
Website: POEMS THAT HAVE CHANGED MY LIFE
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-06-04 09:29:30
Comments: Here is a poem that I wrote today Mr Cohen......

As I sat drinking milk and listening to Marc Bolan I realised that I had various animals in my colon.

A cow, a rabbit, some chickens and a pig Oh - and some fruit as well - pineapple and fig. How can I purport to love God's creatures all - When they're sitting dead in my intestines, large and small?

Thank you, and I hope you like it. Love from, Clarissa

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Don't I know you, maam? Aren't you that seer from down under?

There was a young lass, from Sydney...who one day had pain in her kidney.

She stopped eating the cheese, then cured all her dis-ease,

And the pain left her quickly, it did, SEE?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Bill Shaw
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Corte Madera, Ca
Time: 1999-06-03 10:22:16
Comments: My twin boys are turning one in a month and our doctor says they must drink cows milk. I do not want them to have cows milk but I have not been able to find any solid alternatives that are safe and will supply all the nutrition that babies need at this age. Please e-mail me with any info that you may have on this subject. Thank you for your time.Sincerely,Bill Shaw

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Bill,

During the Korean war, doctors autopsied young men unlucky enough to die in battle and found evidence of widespread hardening of the arteries, blaming that heart disease on the "typical American diet." The average American consumes 5 ounces each day of meat and chicken and 29 ounces each day of milk and dairy products.

We know that animal fats and cholesterol are dangerous contributors to heart disease. If your physician told you that animal fats and cholesterol were good for your kids, and advised to feed each one of your children four dozen slices of bacon every day druing their growing up years, you would probably get a new doctor!

Every day, the average American, by eating milk, cheese, ice cream, etc. consumes from all dairy products, the same cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon. That will add up to 19,345 slices this year and by the time each of your young men enters college, he'll consume the same cholesterol contained in over 300,000 slices of bacon.

Is this what you want for your sons?

Add earaches, colds, mucus, steroid and protein hormones...

Your children will be happier and healthier by not drinking body fluids from cows.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: William B. Grant
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Newport News, VA
Time: 1999-06-03 08:08:01
Comments: Dear Not Milk Man: I thought that you and your followers would be interested in my growing string of published works linking acute myocardial infarction and other ischemic heart disease to lactose - for men of all ages and older women. Sweeteners, likely fructose, seems to be a factor in such heart disease for younger women. Here is the list. Some of the papers are available over the web:

Grant, WB. Milk and other dietary influences on coronary heart disease. Alt Med Rev, 3:281-294. 1998. (available on the web through MedLine link to publisher (enter Grant, WB):

Grant, WB, Moore, A. Sugar and milk, the hidden causes of heart disease. Nutritional Therapy Today, 1998;8(3):6,7,11; 1998/9;8(4):12.

Grant, WB. The role of milk and sugar in heart disease. Am J Nat Med, 1998;5(9):19-23. (Cover story)

Grant, WB, Moore, A. The role of sugars in ischemic heart disease, Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients, Feb./Mar 1999;187/8:80-86. (banner headline on cover)

Commentary: Lactose, sweeteners and wine may explain the "French paradox," electronic commentary on Law and Wild, BMJ 1999;318:1471-1480.

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/318/7196/1471#EL4

I have two more diseases to link to the non-fat portion of milk. Stay tuned!

Best regards and keep up the good work,

William Grant

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dr. Grant,

Your brilliant work is universally regarded with great respect by the scientific community. Thank you for sharing your wisdom on this page.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Doc Jerrah
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Wichita, KS
Time: 1999-06-03 01:15:16
Comments: I wanted to get in touch with someone from this site. I am a Chiropractic Doctor, and have just been sent a mailing from a Local or midwestern Icecream and dairy store "Braums" telling me how good their milk is and how not all milk is the same. I figured that this would be something you all would want to see so here I am. Please E mail me a # or a contact that I might be able to pass this information along too. The owner of the company wrote the letter and wanted feed back, thanks Doc Jerrah

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Doctor Jerrah,

I am often surprised when seeing one dairy claim that their milk is healthier than another because it contains less hormones.

"Diet/low fat ice cream" is an oxymoron, marketed by geniuses relying upon morons!

BOTTOM LINE: All milk and dairy products are fattening, and all contain hormones. While skim milk contains no fat or cholesterol, it is used to feed pigs for weight gain.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sara Smith
Website: Christian Wings for the World
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Mountain View, Missouri
Time: 1999-06-02 22:13:31
Comments: I found out through Mission Possible. I am interested in the hazards of the hormones in Milk. I have read that it is bad but I did not see what problems it causes. Please inform me so I can spread the word.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sara,

You've come to the right place! Start with "A" for asthma, and continue through "B" with zits, and you'll find a cure for what ails you by giving up milk and dairy products.

The NOTMILK homepage will be updated in the next few weeks, making it a bit easier to find the info you seek.

In the meantime, why not begin by reading the weekly columns:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/column.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-06-01 22:56:00
Comments: Dear Notmilkman (or anyone else who may be able to help),

CAN ANYONE HELP ME - PLEASE

Someone I know has recently been diagnosed with cancer. He has been given less than 2 months left to live. He has been to many kemopheropy sessions but none have worked. He still has one more to go and hopefully this will work. Seeing as the kemo isn't working I would like to suggest some alternative forms of treatment. I think that an organic vegan GMO free diet would be a step in the right direction. However, he has always riduled my vegan diet and so I know that suggesting this will not help unless I can provide a lot of evidence to prove it.

Do you belive that avoiding dairy products and eliminating IGF-1 from his diet could actually stop the cancer growing? Does cancer promote its own growth after a certain stage and is it too late now? Also, do you know of anyone who is well respected in the field of alternative treatment that I could recommend to him? Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nicholas,

At some point, during its growth, a cancer progresses in size and becomes an endocrine gland, producing and secreting enormous amounts of IGF-I. That cancer then grows and often spreads to other organs.

There are many therapies that I have seen or heard of offering "miraculous" cures.

One founding member of the ANTIDAIRY Coalition recently passed away from a brain cancer. His options were to explore the many different alternative therapies or choose the traditional chemo/radiation route. Charles Attwood, MD, selected the second option. He made his difficult choice and no longer lives.

We had a very long and painstaking conversation before his decision was made about alternative therapies. Unfortunately, chemnotherapy is a killer, and I am no advocate of that therapy. Unfortunately, too, most patients are influenced by the traditional decision, made by their physician.

Should any of my friends or loved ones be diagnosed with a cancer, I would do all that is possible to explore the holistic approach to healing.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mark Downie
Website: Dean's Machine
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
Time: 1999-06-01 02:40:41
Comments: First and foremost, it's great to see a website like this, I couldn't believe it when I found out it was here. I have long been anti-milk. I grew up forced to drink 1-2 glasses a day of that awful stuff. I'd get colds several times a year, and they'd last for weeks. I wouldn't get the built up stuff out of me for almost a month. That all changed when I was old enough to stop drinking it. Now I get one cold every few years, it only lasts a few days, and it's usually no more than a sore throat and one or two days of runny nose. There is almost no congestion. That brings me to the "mucus theory". It has to be correct, think about it. How else can the body release the built up mucus but through such a wonderful mechanism a cold is? I believe the body allows this common virus, the Rhinovirus, to infect, when exposed to it, once the buildup is there. That better explains why colds are usually contracted by those afflicted with them on such a regular basis, and how some get them all the time, and others, even when exposed to the virus, don't contract it. I'm not big on conspiracy theories, but how is this one? Is it possible that the manufacturers of cold medicine have a covert union, their own NRA (a company set up for the benefit of the manufacturers, NOT the consumers, for every dollar given by the consumer "member" a "member" manufacturer gives 100, that explains why they stand up against the ban of machine guns - in the name of hunters - who never use them. Come on. "There goes a deer!" Ratta tat tat tat). I honestly could imagine that union financing part of the advertising budget that puts pretty faces with that awful white stuff on their top lip. That's the after result of giving the dairy association a blow job if it ever was. They do it and get paid for it, and it's service with a smile. Another interesting thing is that cows are given iodine laced salt licks, to help stave digestive system pathogens that could be problematic. Problem is, iodine makes many with acne breakouts worse. Many don't know how it gets there, but it does, and that's another thing milk has a lot of that can be a hidden troublemaker. Another thing you may want to know. In reading an article about "mad cow disease" I'd learned about the horror of the Prion. A Prion is not bacteria or virus, it's a third kind of protein bases pathogen. It cannot be killed by any kind of method now used for pasteurization. That is believed not only to be behind "mad cow disease" but also is believed to be a possible altheimers disease link. Since some strains are believed to lodge themselves in the human spinal column and remain dormant or incubate for years. These strains, due to their slower onset, once activated many years later, may cause altheimers symptoms. The softening of the brain, the pure degeneration, resembles the mad cow disease process, just much slower. It's easy to sit and laugh at this, right now I'm sure some pro life NRA members are, but remember, if you walked into a doctors office just 10 years ago and said 95% of all ulcers are caused by bacteria, they'd laugh you out the door. Now we know for a fact that a spiral shaped bacteria causes it, and the best treatment isn't antacids but antibiotics. Furthermore, the idea that stress causes Ulcers makes some sense, since under stress, the body's immune system is weaker. Back to dairy. The fact I'd learned about Prions was interesting since there are almost no adequate tests that can be done to determine it's presence, and because of that, we don't know for sure it's not in milk. The real zinger was reading in that same column how 75% of all dairy cows carry the Bovine Leukemia Virus. This virus does get into the milk (along with the hormones and pus) and has been found to cross infect other mammals, including sheep and goats. So far, no link has been found to show it infects man, but since we are superior and able to fight diseases perhaps others cannot as well, how do we know we don't get a less deadly version of it, which shows itself as Diabetes Mellitus, years after drinking that horrible white substance. Dr. Spock, before he died, also mentioned he no longer recommended milk for kids for another reason than the one mentioned. The inability for some do digest milk may be universal, we all may not be able to fully digest it. Some have it so bad, this inability, they get gas and who knows what else from the Milk Sugar Lactose. Luckily, if they find out, they get off it early. Those of us who might still drink it, not having such a bad reaction to this sugar (which humans were not biologically developed to assimilate) could be getting other signs of the intolerance, such as asthma, colds, diabetes, acne, you name it. Since Lactose is a foreign sugar to the human body, and it is a sugar, that may explain it's link to sugar and insulin type problems, ranging from both kinds of diabetes to hypoglycemia. It just amazes me that so many come on here in defense of Dairy. What are they being paid for? They haven't put 1/10 of the work into this website/research the author has. They are the ones clogging their arteries believing that trans fatty acids aren't bad (as is the case with Quaker 100% Natural Cereal, that's a lie! They use hydrogenated oils, chemically altered oils, in their product, that's not natural). What gets me is the royal scam these gigantic recipients of corporate welfare pull, from dairy to gun manufacturers to tobacco companies, they try to "get 'em when they are young" they use the excuse of giving people jobs, and the wheel goes 'round again. Then these skinny puppies run up and try to bite people on the ass who try to make a difference. They don't understand, after spending their lives getting fleeced they can't find it in themselves to go after the ones who put them there. They blindly follow, but hey, someone has to buy the publishers clearinghouse crap, someone has to loose their bank rolls to MLM scams. Without them, who would clean our toilets? Why do you think, despite the fact you can get 50 washes out of a shoe box sized box of laundry detergent, they still sell refrigerator sized containers of less concentrated varieties? Packaging my friend! At the expense of the ecology, they sate the naive and ignorant. "Well, it bigger, so it got ta do more washes, no?" Keep drinking it up, that fat cat CEO at the dairy company doesn't care about your health, why do so many defend them and care about them? I sit and watch in amazement. Send enough of them a letter asking for $50 in cash, and a return envelope and you'd be rich. Don't laugh, tobacco, coffee, alcohol, caffeine laced beverages, even dairy, they do it every day.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mark,

Just a few short years ago, anybody saying milk was "dangerous" was ridiculed. Today, thousands of doctors have learned the truth and millions of Americans are discovering the healthy alternative of a NOTMILK diet.

One week of no milk or dairy can be the universal convicer! That mucus congests more than your lungs and nasal passages. Eliminate all dairy, and the internal fog (one gallon of mucus) leaves your system.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Corey F. Dyok
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Saskatoon, Saskatoon. Canada
Time: 1999-05-31 14:11:11
Comments: I grew up drinking lots of milk when I was a child. Guess what? I was also hyperactive, bored, autistic and wet the bed Fortunately I grew up on a farm where we drank fresh "raw" milk. It had all the enzymes needed to "partially" break down the nutrients. It also spared my body of all the harmful sodium, antibiotics and growth hormones. At 22 years old, I now realized that it was the milk causing all of my problems. I am not lactose intolerant, I am "allergic" to milk! The gas, bloating, nausea, etc. can be attributed to our friend, Mr./Mrs. Moo. It seems that our genes have just recently transformed themselves and now require large amounts of milk. This must be true. Our new food pyramid states so, and we must strictly follow the food pyramid as this is the "only" way to stay healthy.(major sarcasm) The use of calcium as their propoganda tool follows the same ploy as the cholesterol baloney in the margarine industry. What about potassium or homocystein levels? What about the restriction of boron supplements here in Canada. To whom it may concern, I am ashamed to say I am from North America at times. I am surrounded by greed and pollution. I would like to live cozy in a place like Switzerland. Hopefully will some day! Corey

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Corey,

Here are the results from a new study on raw, unpasteurized milk:

A scientist at South Dakota State University tested bulk tank milk from 131 dairy herds and found that 32% of the samples contained one or more species of pathogenic bacteria.

In addition, a survey of those farms revealed that on 60 percent of the surveyed farms, dad, mom and kids consumed raw milk.

That's just the good news. You seem to have discovered all that is bad about milk on your own. Congratulations! Now that you have the wisdom to know the cause of your disease, you also have the cure. . . NOTMILK!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Frank
Website: Animals In Print
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-05-31 01:25:54
Comments: Great Page!!!!! I've never seen so much info on one page about dairy, lol. Keep up the Great Work!

Frank


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-05-31 01:13:19
Comments: Robert, I read the following on our local on-line newspaper and had to wonder if these are the kind of people you associate with? You seem to share a lot of their philosophy! Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? " The Animal Liberation Front has claimed responsibility for arson that destroyed a meat plant earlier this month. The ALF posted information Thursday on its Web site, describing how activists used gas to start a fire at Childers Meat Co. to protest of the meat and dairy industry’s treatment of cows. The fire destroyed a two-story office building, shipping dock and refrigeration unit, causing an estimated $150,000 damage. The ALF posting described how activists used ‘‘20 gallons of diesel fuel/unleaded mixture’’ in four 5-gallon buckets that ‘‘were strategically placed near the two-story office building containing the companies business records and along the main building near a natural gas line.’’ The plant’s co-owner, Tim Childers, said police had contacted him Thursday about the Web posting. He said he hadn’t suspected the fire was caused by animal rights activists because his business is not a slaughterhouse and only processes and packages meat."

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

I really do not associate with any one group. My philosophy is my own, just as yours belongs to you. I would no sooner accuse you of supporting the horrible school shootings because you are a card-carrying member of NRA.

Just for the record:

Many animal-right's activists do not like me because I publically denounce violent actions. By using terrorism, we become our enemies. On the other hand, I sense that most people who wish to see compassion extended to animals also deplore such violence.

One or two "rotten" people spoil things for the majority of people having good intentions. Just as bad as those "rotten apples" are people who would stereotype all good persons by the acts of a few.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Davey
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sydney
Time: 1999-05-28 17:31:40
Comments: I enjoyed reading some of your guest's comments, especially the one from the state powerlifter. (Letter #1118) Now if that is not a reason for sterilization I don't know what is. Can this type of person be so blind to the obvious?

Our air is polluted with heavy metals, our soils are saturated with pesticides, herbicides, fungacides and toxic cocktails, and now Monsanto wants to genetically engineer the worlds food supply and, he believes that drinking a gallon of milk is the ultimate drink. Well good luck to this animal hater, I'm sure when he gets older (if he lives that long) he can drink all the milk he wants, eat all the land based animal fat he wants and when there are no "coons" around to beat to death he can take his frustrations out on his wife and kids. Of course he probably will forego the powerlifting in later years to dedicate all of his brain cells (all 3 of them) to getting a degree in basket weaving. Is there any wonder why the world is in the state it is? Why do large conglomerates spend so much money advertising their cancer causing garbage when idiots like this will follow along just like the cows they eat...by the nose ring? I wonder how this person will feel in about 20 years when his children start to sprout huge cancerous growths just like him from drinking milk and eating the bodies of these same animals? This person should be shown before and after pictures of Lyle Alzado on the effects of going against nature. If Lyle were able to speak to this Rhodes Scholar today I'm sure he would try his best to convince him to stop adoring himself in the mirror and change his habits now before its too late. Mother nature always weeds out the logically challenged and this guy is definitely on her list. Of course this same type of person would follow Mark McQuire out on the freeway to play in the traffic if this high paid steroid promoter advertised it. With role models like this we certainly don't need more "DRINK MILK" commercials shoved in our children's faces with Mark McQuire or, any other big movie or sports star promoting the white mustache of good health. Its funny how MOST people from the lower end of the logic pool can make such huge amounts of money and still be completely unaware of the fragile state of our planet. Yet these same people have no bones about promoting a chemical milkshake that will definitely rear its ugly head in the near future, all for the sake of the almighty dollar. I suppose if I were making 5 or 10 million U.S. dollars a year I would have to support my income by doing commericals without the slighest care of what I was promoting. Hopefully Mark and his high paid buddies will never promote burgers from Jack In The Box. Remember the EBOLI VIRUS Mark? MILK ... THINK ... DON'T DRINK ... IT STINKS!!!


Name: Cristina Fiore Jones
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Welland, Ontario, Canada
Time: 1999-05-26 18:52:41
Comments: My one year old daughter was very ill for two and a half months. She had one virus after another. Inner-ear infections, runny nose, irritability, eczema, wheezing, coughing and was developing asthma. All this stopped when I took her off of milk. Why don't doctors know about this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cristina,

They do, and that's part of the problem.

The courageous ones become healers and practice an ounce of prevention. Today's SQUIRT OF NOTMILK WISDOM pays homage to the father of physicians, Hippocrates, who was the first doctor to recognize milk allergies.

One of the reasons the ANTIDAIRY Coalition was created, was to empower physicians. As one voice, a physician might be perceived as a fanatic, if he or she tells patients that their mothers and teachers were wrong to promote milk as nature's perfect food.

Dispelling a myth, so deeply ingrained, is a challenge.

Today thousands of physicians know the truth and are informing their patients that milk does not do the body any good.

You had the ability to find this truth out for yourself. Your children and family will be healthier for your wisdom.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michael Matos
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Bermuda
Time: 1999-05-25 06:38:17
Comments: 75% of the worlds population doesn't drink cows milk, really Pardon the pun but what is your Beef did you lose a job at a dairy farm or something lighten up this is a vendetta nothing more, the 25% of us do see through your liitle charade. You criticize others for qouting facts but you unabashedly use other peoples qoutes to strengthen your point. If milk is bad for you and we are being conspired against stop harping and do something, put up some cash, hire a lawyer, fire up the old class action law suit, But then again who would you sue, I know, not a Soul no-one you will just spread hatred and your convuluted thinking. I also find your use of statistics very interesting, You use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post, for support rather than illumination. By the way any evil connotations connected with Goats Milk I,d be surprised if there wasn't. You talk a good game but I doubt if you can play. Drop me a line when the court case starts and this evil conspiracy is finally bought to its knees. Think of all the great people in the world who believed in a cause as you do and one that is intrinsically evil so you say, Shouldn't be to hard they are all household names, King Jr, Ali, Branch Rickey, Mother Theresa, the list goes on but unfortunately for you not long enough, you will never make it and I wonder why wouldn't be because your cause is not legit? Is it?

Dear Michael,

I could never compare myself to Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King, Jr., Ali or Branch Rickey. All of your so-named examples occasionlly took time off for vacations or other personal matters. Each one also rested on the seventh day of each week.

Branch Rickey, Ali and King were cursed and hated by millions. Now, that I can relate to!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rick Servatius
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Emporia, Kansas (lot's of dairy!)
Time: 1999-05-25 06:33:48
Comments: Notmilkman, Haven't quite finished your enlightening book; have always suspected that the American Dairy Association is more powerful than the American Bar Asoociation, anyhow. Do you mention at all the tremendous amount of methane that cows spew, or for that matter their waste wich plays havoc with ground and river water? Supporting this industry is harming us environmentally as well.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Rick,

The WHITE HOUSE unintentionally provided comic relief which I included in my book. The Executive Branch report of bovine somatotropin concluded that the genetically engineered hormone (rbST) would lower methane gas levels in the atmosphere because there would be less cows producing more milk.

The author of the report did not consider the fact that if there was more milk, the cows would have to eat more, and they would also produce more gas.

Cows produce trillions of pounds of waste products and you are correct. Considerable amounts of those waste products end up in streams and rivers.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dudley Lewis
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Santa Cruz
Time: 1999-05-21 11:11:44
Comments: Robert, I liked the comment of Mr. Bob Day in the not milk website. I think that he has a very good point where he said: "Then again, maybe the unhealthiness of meat and milk are instant karma, visited on those who continue their overconsumption. What goes around comes around and bites us in the ass." In many situations there doesn't seem to be any justice, where those who consume our planet at a rapid rate and spoil the air, water and food sources continue with impunity. I think that Bob has illustrated that there is justice and balance in the world. Those who use their minds and think about what you are saying and decide to stop consuming milk products will be spared the sentence of bad health, disease and cancer. Those who continue to mindlessly consume milk, genetically engineered food and live consumptive lives that are destroyiing the planet will experience justice in MANY SILENT AND DEADLY WAYS. There appears to be a mechanism which exists in nature that seems to compensate and make us pay whenever we stray from our position of balance and equalibrium with it. We pollute the air —we get more lung cancer. We drive too many cars—the polar ice caps melt. We drink milk—we get cancer and health problems. Etc,etc. However, when we choose to eat low on the food chain in a responsible way and not support the pesticide producers we are rewarded with good health. Maby there is something more here than just the bad habit of drinking another species's milk meant for infants.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dudley,

I think that our miraculous immune system and the word "KARMA" are actually the same 'homonculous' (little man within, residing in the pineal body) wearing different hats.

Your leg bone's connected to your knee bone, etc. All cells are so connected, making up the human body.

Should you rid that body of one gallon of mucus which is evenly distributed throughout your cells and body organs, clogging the bronchioles of your lungs, junctures at your spine and synapses of your neurons, an "INTERNAL FOG" will lift and your "KARMA" improve.

The good news is that one week of NOTMILK replaces ten years of meditation! Nirvana awaits those who learn this truth.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: MARJORIE LEMMONHEAD
Website: A LOVE THAT DARES NOT SPEAK ITS NAME
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
Time: 1999-05-21 06:12:50
Comments: About six months ago I found myself strangely attracted to a bull that I was introduced to. Well, to cut a long story short we entered into a 'meaningful relationship'....and now I'm pregnant with his calf. Dilemma! What should I drink - milk or soy milk? I haven't had any leg cramps as yet, but with a calf kicking inside of you night and day the word 'cramp' hardly covers what I'm experiencing. Please help me Mr Cohen with your sound advice as I have no-one else to turn to. Thank-you in advance. PS: Any ideas for a name for the baby?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Marjorie,

You were obviously in a sensual MOOd and Mr. bull could not resist your udderly good looks. All men are alike, and you've were steered in the wrong direction. However, you should not have any beefs here...take responsi-bullity!

If your child is a male child, you might name him Marsala or Scallopini...both very European and appropriate names for his future. If your baby is female, she won't need a name. She'll have a number tag appropriately stapled to her ear and she'll soon become another of Old MacDonald's slaves.

You really do not have to worry about feeding your child. On a typical dairy farm, she will be force fed one gallon of your colostrum by a tube, then placed on a soy milk formula. As she grows and becomes a milk producer like her mother, she will have enormous protein needs. Her feed might include bone meal and blood meal from her brothers and sisters. A very popular American food for cows is chicken feces, cooked at 200 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 minutes to kill the bacteria.

Bon(e) apetit, Marjorie. You are what you eat, and we look forward to drinking your pus and hormonal-filled body fluids.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: B.J.Viste
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Norway
Time: 1999-05-20 05:10:45
Comments: 1. Milk is of course not the reason to all the problems in the world like illustrated here - some like easy answers and choose to believe it. 2. Milk is a good nutrient, it got energy from fat, from sugar and a it is a balanced protein resource. 3. Some got allergy from milk, some from cereals, some people can't eat nuts.... That doesn't mean that no one shuld eat the product. Some people will always be intolerant to some food. 4. Adult people in low activity have small needs for protein and food at all. We in the western community can make our diets in a million ways. We can use milk, bread, cereals and a lot of industrial produced food to make the same diet conserned to nutrition. But if you are in lack of feed, like in the third world, milk with it's composition will be a perfect food because you got both energy, good aminoacid composition, vitamins and minerals. 5. If the milk in USA is like the beef you want to sell to Europe, because we can't proove that there is anything wrong with it, that's another problem. This is the problem of the industrial agriculture, that because low prices on the products the farmer is forced to try "smart" way to produce, milk, beef, corn on a cheaper way, to get the profit to stay alive as a farmer. They use new pecticides, brilliant hormones, penicillin and other medicins and chemicals. And of course rest products here will end in the meat and in the milk. And if this is the product you get offered in your stores, so say no thanks, notmilk for me, produced in this way. But, there are different ways to produce both milk and meat, it may be more expencive in the store, but we, the total community, will win at last. We can produce milk, meat, cereals on an ecologian way, where we reduce the pressure on the nature, on the animal, and for the human being. It's not the milk itself thats the problem, it's how we are forcing the agricultural production in a wrong circle on our way to get cheaper products instead of better products.

Name: Robert
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: London,Ont.
Time: 1999-05-19 18:56:49
Comments: I checked back in, and I'm glad to see alot of support for the Notmilkman. I spread the word whenever I can. I wanted to add a little to Laurence's comments, as I often hear about health related issues in conncection to not drinking milk. It is more likely magnesium deficiency causing leg cramps, and milk has negligible amounts of nutrients, especially when you match them against the negative properties. Also, there are other products I've tried which are great substitutes. "Soy Good" soy milk with added calcium, almond milk, rice milk, and there are more soy milks coming out now, flavoured as well. If someone chooses to use a calcium supplement, don't use dolomite, as the lead content can be high. Same for oyster shell. Try carbonate(best absorbed), or citrate. I have relatives around the same area as Laurence, and I have found the incidence of prostate cancer,bhp,and other heart related illness rather high. They also record their deaths in a different way, so it appears it wasn't diet so much, when in fact it may have been. It is true though, they don't want north american beef.

Name: Laurence Dang
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: France, California
Time: 1999-05-19 07:53:00
Comments: This is addressed to Sharon who had problems with cramps due to lack of calcium by drinking Soy milk There are some very good soy milk brands which provide the necessary added calcium that you need. One is Edensoy Extra. All the calcium and vitamins added in it are either naturally occuring in Soy or strictly of vegetarian source so there is no danger. You may also find good and safe calcium supplements in health food stores. I would recommend staying away even from organic milk because of this is still milk and it may harm your baby especially if he/she is allergic (do not wait till you feed him/her to find this out). Milk drank by pregnant women has even more of a harmful effect on the fetus just like everything else you may ingest. Most women in Asia do not need to drink milk and have very healthy babies. I am Asian and my mom was allergic to milk and did not drink it during her pregnancy. Everything was fine till I was born in an American hospital (in France) and was fed milk. I developed all kinds of rashes and digestive problems. They switched to soy milk and I was back on track. I am not a giant but I am of normal health and size for my race. I am not aware of pregnant women getting cramps out of lack of calcium but if this is the case please use a diet naturally high in calcium (cook your broth or stew with bones for example) Make sure your diet is nutritious and healthy and naturally contains all the vitamins and minerals you need . If you need supplements select them at health food stores which carry brands without harmful allergens or additives.Remember that the healthier your diet is the better your chances to have a healthy baby and be a healthy mom. All the best

Name: Laurence Dang
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: France, California
Time: 1999-05-19 07:15:37
Comments: I commented a while back on this page (#685). It's still as good as it was. I just wanted to add that I am SICK AND TIRED of the US trade wanting to shove US beef down Europe's throat claiming "it is safe". Sure so long as no one eats it. Then they spend billions of $$ wondering why on earth Europeans are thinner, have less heart diseases and are generally healthier. They think it's the wine. Well maybe it's just because they don't grow up on rBGH. Just wait. After having blackmailed Europe into eating that beef they'll say US milk is just as good. Then the poison will spread to the rest of the world. Actually the main reason Europe is rejecting that beef is because they know that no sane person over there will bother buying it. That's boycott on a grand scale for you.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lawrence,

I do not have all of the answers.

I grew up in the land of the free and was taught that censorship existed in every nation but ours. Front page stories all over the world cover these issues, but our newspapers ignore the issues.

I'm baffled by it all.

Meanwhile, our Secretary of Agriculture, Dan Glickman travels all over the world and is greeted by large protests in every nation that he visits.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Craiger Evenson
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Clear Lake South Dakota
Time: 1999-05-18 20:10:01
Comments: You have some good things to say, but you cant take away the simple fact that I have won to state powerlifting titles and I drink at least one gallon of milk a day. What you think about milk is really bogus. Think, good versus bad and you and everyone else will see that milk has more good to do than bad. Oh yeah, as for what you said on KS93, milk is not evil or Id be the reincarnation of SATAN!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Craiger,

Reincarnation of SATAN? Your last sentence is curious to me, especially after visiting your WEBSITE. You have a special gun club and here is what you wrote: "This is the TRC elite badger page. This happens to be an elite club and the rules of admission are as follows, you must a badger by waddling after it while shooting it with a .22, you must then have the person that's driving run out and stomp it with his boots, next the driver must run back to the vehicle and grab the bat, while he pounds it with the bat you must take pics. Send the pics in for our discretion and hopefully you will be a part of our elite badger club."

Children who torture and shoot animals sometimes graduate and commit crimes against people. Those children in Colorodo had a past history in which they did the same things as you brag about by posting for all to see. You may or not be SATAN, but you are most certainly a sick puppy.

MILK

You must not have been listening carefully to your radio show."

I said that every sip of milk is loaded with steroid hormones. I said that milk IS a hormonal delivery system.

If you are a champion weight lifter, drink more milk and you'll have muscles growing atop muscles. You'll be Olympic material! Steroid hormones and weightlifting were made for one another.

GOT MILK? GOT BEEF!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dipti Sharma
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: CA
Time: 1999-05-18 12:19:37
Comments: Hi: I was trying to investigate the connection between the antibiotic drugs present in milk and hearing loss and tinnitus. Certain antibiotics which are ototoxic can potentially cause immediate or progressive hearing loss and/or tinnitus. Is there anyplace (preferably on the net) where I might be able to get a listing of the antibiotics found in milk? Dipti

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dipti,

I am not aware of a site on the INTERNET which will supply that list. When CONSUMERS REPORTS tested milk and found the presence of 52 different antibiotics a few years back, they found that most were not legally permitted.

I would suggest that you visit your local library and check FDA'S two publications, "Backgrounder" and "Veterinarian." They sometimes reveal the names of hidden drugs.

Currently, truckloads of milk are only tested for the presence of a handful of antibiotics, and farmers know which ones are tested. Enough said?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Shirin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: CA
Time: 1999-05-17 20:34:59
Comments: I am eight months pregnant and have been drinking milk to satisfy my growing babys' demand for calcium. I stopped drink milk recently (after reading your articles) and began supplimenting with soy milk. For the first time in eight months, I experienced terrible leg cramps (I am told due to lack of calcium). Can I continue drinking milk, but from an organic source, just until the end of my pregnancy? Which organic brand do you recommend, if any?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Shirin,

Calcium plays a remarkable role in maintaining cellular homeostasis, and does much more than just help build bones. As a mother with a growing infant, you are aware that proper nutrition plays a critical role in the health of you and your child.

Seventy-five percent of the people on this planet do not drink cow's milk. Do you imagine that women the world over suffer leg cramps because they are not drinking body fluids fom bovines? I trust that your physician did not tell you that this was the reason for your cramps. You might want to ask that doctor if he or she ever took a class in nutrition, which for most medical schools has historically been an elective and not a requirement.

I hope that breastfeeding becomes your choice for your infant's food. Be aware that dioxins, pesticides and antibiotics will pass through the cow's body into yours and into your breast milk. You will consume powerful hormones and allergenic proteins from that cow. Colic in human breastfeeding studies has been linked to cow's milk consumed by nursing mothers.

There are at least five dozen plant-based sources of calcium on my website. All of these choices contain more calcium than hman breast milk. Should you have trouble finding them, please write to me privately and I will send you a list.

Good luck to you and your baby!

Oh, yes, you want a good source for organic milk... May I suggest the WHYMILK or GOTMILK pages? What you're gonna get here is NOTMILK!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dudley Lewis
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Santa Cruz,Ca
Time: 1999-05-17 10:32:46
Comments: Robert, I wrote this short essay after reading your book which I have sent to my friends and newspaper editors. I have also put a copy of your book cover on the back of the receipts that I give my clients to inform them of your great work. I will be ordering another ten copies of your book to pass out to doctors and helth care administrators when I travel abroad with medical donations. Here is my "LUNCH" essay, I hope you like it.

As I sat down for lunch this afternoon, I began to think about the relationship between the activities of humans and the balance of nature. Some interesting connections came to mind. It seems that whenever humans stray from the natural flow and cycle of life we run into a compensating mechanism apparently invisible to many of us. Take nuclear energy for example, Uranium was a fine thing left in the ground, but once taken from the earth and perverted by humans, it has now become one of the greatest threats to the human race. Notice that I didn't say all life on earth. Once we either poison ourselves with radioactive materials or blow ourselves up, life will continue to evolve without us as it has for millions of years. Our presence will be merely be a nanosecond in the great epoch of earth's existence. A few million years later the earth will have evolved new creatures that probably will be once more in harmony with the planet's natural processes. Cows and their milk is another interesting relationship. Once upon a time cows, their young calves and humans lived healthy natural lives in balance with the environment. Now, after several thousand years, factory farming and genetic engineering, we have virulent antibiotic resistant pathogenic microorganisms, Mad Cow Disease spreading into the human population and more health problems than you can count on both hands caused by humans drinking milk*. This phenomena also seems to occur for social structures as well as the physical ones. Once humans all shared the wealth that surrounded their communal societies and lived in relative peace and harmony**. Then, about 20,000 years ago it was found that by manipulating nature on a large scale (farming and animal husbandry), one could amass far more resources than one could use. This phenomena quickly led to the concept of property. The downfall of the equality of women, children and the development of slavery soon became a negative side effect of this property concept. The need for soldiers to protect this contrived structure of accumulated resources soon led to the development of armies and war on a grand scale right up to the present. I could go on with more examples, but I think you see my point. The more I look at this phenomena the more it seems that there is a hidden and invisible force that compensates against humans for their transgressions against the natural order. Is nature and the life force of this planet trying to tell us something? Well, I think I'll finish my vegetarian lunch, free of hormones, antibiotics and pesticide residue and write some of this down, it might just mean something. ------------------------------------------------------------- *"MILK The Deadly Poison" by Robert Cohen **"THE CHALICE AND THE BLADE" by Raine Eisler


Name: Dudley Lewis
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Santa Cruz, CA
Time: 1999-05-17 01:42:03
Comments: I've been here before, but forgot a few things. First,the cover and back of your book are really excellent eye catching graphics. My compliments to your graphic artist. Second, I loved your reply to Lynne, the "Woman of Science" (I hope I speled that right Lynne). Third, I found a few spelling/grammer errors in the book that I thought I would pass on for the next printing: 1.p.128 ...should (be) appplied... 2.p.152 ...made despite....(gap between words) 3.p.170 ...indistinguishable? The(re) are..... 4.p.272 ...tested then (than) the one presently...

One last question. I was surprised that you still consume some cheese and icecream (p.284). Doesn't this fly in the face of the case you have presented against milk? Aren't you a little concerned about prions? Keep up the good work!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dudley your corrections are much appreciated!

Sometimes, even the best of proofreaders miss such errors.

When I wrote MILK-The Deadly Poison two years ago I still used Parmesian cheese in baked potatoes and occasionally used mozzerella atop marinara sauce on chicken. We used to spread cream cheese on bagels.

Today I eat absolutely no dairy. The cream cheese is out, as is the mozzerella. Perhaps I've used the phrase:

PUS WITH HORMONES AND GLUE one too many times. Even my kids experience the gagging response when we see somebody drinking a container of milk!

Dairy products are no longer a part of our life and we really do not miss them. We do not miss the colds, or the mucus and congestion.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ravi Sandhu
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Coventry, UK
Time: 1999-05-16 20:38:12
Comments: This is a great page, good stuff, keep up the good work

Name: charles wye
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: uk
Time: 1999-05-15 23:56:58
Comments: do your comments refer to raw milk produced from cows on permanent organic pasture? i am a great believer in pottenger's work "pottenger's cats" and papers by sally fallon but since reading your book i am now in a quandary. thank you. charles wye

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Charles,

Sally Fallon believes that butter from organically raised cows is healthy food for humans. She admits to eating 1/4 pound of this saturated animal fat every day. It takes more than five pounds of milk to produce four ounces of butter.

Most nutritionists, dieticians and scientific agencies caution humans to limit their consumption of animal fats. Sally Fallon disagrees with these warnings. I disagree with Sally Fallon on this issue.

Pottenger fed his cats cooked meat from various body parts of animals, and noted that the offspring of his cats suffered ill effects.

Canadian naturalist, Farley Mowatt repeated a similar experiment and wrote about it in his brilliant book, "NEVER CRY WOLF." Mowett found that a major food source in a wolf diet is mice. Mowatt lived for a few weeks on the same diet. However, in preparing the mice, he gutted them and only ate the protein, discarding the internal organs and fat. After a few weeks, he found his "experiment of one" to be severely lacking.

Soon Mowatt realized that wolves require a balance, and consume the entire animal. In doing so, they consume protein, fat and carbohydrates (from the plants in the intestines of the mice).

Even lions making kills eat the internal organs, stomach contents and intestines, containing partially digested plant matter.

Pottenger neglected to feed his cats a balanced diet, one which they would naturally obtain in the wild. Such considerations and additives, once neglected, are now made in commercial pet foods. His cats suffered as a result of Pottenger's ignorance.

I find raw milk to be the PERFECT food for baby cows. I find the hormones and proteins in raw milk to be inappropriate for human consumption.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Friesian Valley Dairy
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Idaho
Time: 1999-05-15 04:35:29
Comments: I heard a rumor that you had previously debated with Columbia University concering your claims about milk. Is it true that they completely destroyed your claims dealing with this topic. If at all possible, I would appreciate it if you could send us some information about that debate . . . that is if the debate ever happened.Thank you,Friesian Valley Dairy

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Friesan Valley Dairy Farmer,

I've never been to your state, but those rumors from New York City sure do travel quickly to Idaho, a place where less than one out of every three hundred residents is African-American. I love your state motto: Esto Perpetua (It is perpetual). I bet it is!

I didn't have much of a chance debating all of the inner New York city dairy farmers. The Holstein dairymen from the South Bronx and the Guernsey farmers from Harlem as well as the Jersey farmers from "Joisey" all ganged up on me.

When I mentioned that there was "PUS" in milk, the leader of the Holstein gang said, "Yeah, and what are you gonna do about it, ya joik."

The toughest group were the Brooklyn dairy farmers. They were mad and their cows were mad too. Their animals moo with an attitude. I just did not have what it takes to go one-on-one with the 'boys in the hood.'

Those dairy majors at Columbia sure do have an attitude. Who can blame them? Their fathers were dairymen and their fathers before them.

It's a sight to see, thousands of cows grazing in New York's Central Park.

Just for the record, there has never been debate at Columbia.

When I was on HARD COPY no member of the dairy industry had the brains or courage to debate me. When I visited Cornell University, the "experts" (Bauman and Barbano) conveniently snuck out of town (on a Tuesday night). I was told they were at a dairy conference. I do not blame your industry's best from avoiding me in debate. I tend to chop them up into little pieces of Swiss cheese with BIG holes.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dudley Lewis
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Santa Cruz, CA 95062
Time: 1999-05-15 02:08:33
Comments: I have read your book (that's where I got this URL) and want to thank you for the increadible job you did in making this wonderful contribution to us all. Words cannot express the appreciation that I have for your valient and nobel sacrifice in bringing this information to the light of day. May the evil minds with souls filled with darkness who would poison millions of helpless babes ultimately face justice for their crimes against humanity. I am buying four extra books to donate to our libraries. Thank You Once Again.

Name: Lynne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 1999-05-13 23:56:54
Comments: Robert, I fail to believe your accusations of the dairy industry. Why? Well, being a woman of science, and UNDERSTANDING the pathology behind metabolization of proteins, immunoglobulins, and HORMONES in the digestive system, your evidence is inconclusive and contradictory. I fail to believe the "facts" that you present from various HUMAN MEDICINE researchers. Many things in the veterinary field have successfully disproven the "trendy medical research" that seems to occur more and more often throughout the world today. Why do you cite such information? Not because it's the truth.....but because it is information that adds fuel to your fire. Anyone in the scientific field knows that what you stated regarding immunoglobulins (which are ALSO proteins) (in response to #1100) is incorrect in adult mammals. There is a selective mechanism that allows for the specific absorption of immunoglobulins in YOUNG animals so that they can acquire immunity from their mother until their own immune system has developed and can produce immunoglobulins of its own. This mechanism usually will shut down in a matter of days...which varies from animal to animal, depending on their placental type. Were you aware of that??? Before I believe ANYTHING that you have to say, I need credible evidence of your understanding of organ system function. Information regarding any given topic is out there and accessible....and of which can be "cut and pasted" to appear as "fact." So, until I SEE PROOF, I suggest that you avoid poisoning peoples minds with your so-called "truth!"

By the way.......another thing that damages your credibility with me is your spelling....it really makes you look bad when you are attempting to educate people about hormones, growth factors, and providing "scientific information" when you can't spell them correctly: e.g. EGF is NOT 'Epidernal Growth Factor'.....it's Epidermal Growth Factor....you might want to check that out... Oversight, in your position, is not a wise thing to practice. This is where I find weakness in your platform against the Dairy industry. So, I think you need to "buck up," son!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lynn,

In the first line of your letter you boast of being a "woman of science."

You just don't get it, Lynn. Perhaps you should do the "bucking up." Yesterday you and thousands of biologists and scientists gazed through microscopes and noted that human cells contain twenty-three pairs of chromosomes. Billions of dollars have been invested to snip and cut and paste them together, while engineering a new biotechnology which is called GENETIC ENGINEERING.

Today (May 14, 1999) a New York TImes article revealed that the immensely long molecules of DNA are neatly tied in large firmly knotted loops. HOW DID THE SCIENTISTS, WHO KNOW SO MUCH MISS THIS?

Yesterday we thought that chromosomes were long strands...simple stories containing information. Today we know that chromosomes are actually loops having no beginning and no end, only the perfect and infinite continuum of the never-ending circle of life.

You come here to ridicule me, having missed the obvious.

How interesting. You attack my spelling, but you cannot refute the evidence that EGF, another small protein hormone (under 10,000 daltons in size) bypasses the gut. This should not be possible, according to your logic.

I have written about Epidermal Growth Factor a few dozen times and you seem to have found the one incidence in which I did not spell "epidermal" correctly.

Congratulations! Of course, this invalidates my entire argument against milk.

I challenge you to find one other site on the INTERNET in which a GUESTBOOK is so well attended to. My DELL INSPIRON laptop keyboard is rather tiny and the "M" key and "N" key are soooo close together. Occasionally even I make an error, particularly at 3:00 AM when I grab a few free moments to answer one of more than 1300 letters which have been sent to this guestbook and the ANTIDAIRY guestbook.

I appreciate the fact that "gut closure" occurs. You imply the human infant mechanism which allows absorption of immunoglobulins and lactoferrins shuts down in a matter of days. Your conclusion is that breastfeeding no longer works after that time.

I do not find it surprising that somebody with your credentials would believe this. After all, you learn what you are taught by your professors who were taught by their professors, etc.

What I do find surprising is that a woman would take this position. Why do women even bother breastfeeding after a couple of days, Lynn? According to your EDUCATION, breastfeeding could not possibly workafter a few days, post partum.

There is a fatal flaw in your thinking.

I agree with you that as the human ages, the "gut" matures and less of the hormones get through. However, there is evidence that immunoglobulins get through to the nursing human infant, even after two years of nursing.

One factor that you have not considered is HOMOGENIZATION which you conveniently left out of your critique.

Homogenization reduces in side (micronizes) fat molecules (liposomes) so that they become carriers for protein hormones. This is one way in which they get through the gut in adults.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Anna
Website: deacondanny
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: San Diego, California
Time: 1999-05-13 01:55:49
Comments: Hi! I read your webpage 3 weeks ago and went for the challenge ... my husband and I stopped all dairy cold turkey! For the first time in his life he wakes up and can breathe clearly through his nose, and my allergies are virtually gone! I can't believe it! I read the Colombian Newspaper "EL TIEMPO" and e-mailed you an article that talks about the contamination of milk in Colombia too. They are have the same problems over there: cows are given antibiotics that are not eliminated by pasteurization and the public has been steady consuming small doses of antibiotics for long periods of time, so now their efficiency has decreased. Hope you can read Spanish! THANK YOU! Your website has made a great difference in our lives. Anna.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Hola, Anna.

Congratulaciones!

Leche es muy malo!

Adios!

EL HOMBRE DE NO LECHE!


Name: Robert Ashley Martin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Live in San Mateo, CA. From Minneapolis, MN
Time: 1999-05-12 03:07:42
Comments: Pus permitted in milk from mastitis (udder infection from the Monsanto hormone rBGH) by the FDA should be featured more aggressively in your columns. That should do the trick!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Robert,

The problem is that when manufacturers mix the pus with sugar and freeze the concoction everybody seems to love the taste. Especially when they squirt on whipped high-fat pus and cover it all with chocolate syrup and put a cherry on top.

Some say "It's to die for!"

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville library
Time: 1999-05-11 22:02:38
Comments: Check out today's, 5/11/99, article in the Wall Street Journal about Monsanto's attempts to sell their genetically altered seeds to Europe where they are getting a lot of resistance. Monsanto has altered soybean, corn and cotton seeds. British newspapers call Monsanto the Frankenstein food giant. Now that they have made cow's milk a worse product than it already is with their growth hormone, they are probably going to ruin the crops as well. Apparently, they had no trouble getting American farmers to use their altered seeds. The article points out that "the company has inserted a gene into soybean seeds that enables the resulting plants to tolerate a potent herbicide called Roundup-also sold by Monsanto." Isn't that just great!! Now we will be able to eat more herbicides. They should call them "suicides". Now that I have switched from cow's milk to soy milk I still can't escape Monsanto's clutches. The article also indicates a biochemist at Scotland's Rowett Research Institute told a TV show that his lab rats had their immune systems damaged by eating genetically modified potatoes. This sounds familiar to the study that the FDA is covering up that shows rat's got cancer from Monsanto's growth hormone. Incidentally, this biochemist got fired. What did the farmers do before they had pesticides, herbicides and fungicides? Monsanto ought to do research on how to improve the quality of the soil. Perhaps then the crops would not be so susceptible to insects, weeds and fungi as they are now from nutrient-deficient soils. Just like the medical establishment, they try to treat the effect instead of the cause.

Name: Ken Woody
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Atlanta, GA
Time: 1999-05-11 04:00:01
Comments: We learned about the dangers of milk roughly six months ago. Up till that time, we had been big drinkers of milk and major consumers of all things dairy. We all had major allergy and sinus problems and were sick a lot. We changed to a vegetarian lifestyle where we have virtually eliminated dairy, except on rare occasions, like birthday parties where the kids eat cheese pizza. Our allergies are gone, we have lost weight, feel great and can breathe again. I'm a believer.

Name: MISTY KOLOSKI
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: VERMONT
Time: 1999-05-11 02:59:16
Comments: I'm completely baffeled in trying to figure out just what people want in this day and age!!! A couple of years ago every one was ambushed with news like apples can cause cancer!! also things like oranges proven sorces of disease!! And now the thing that most doctors recomend for strong and healthy bones is getting bashed what next? It is hard enough to make a living as a dairy farmer and then they have to find something else to make it that much harder!! Forget the B.S.T. and this other horemone that they are using and just treat with non-sterodal treatments i.e.-Today!!! If I can help: P.O.Box 58 Hartford, VT 05047 MISTY KOLOSKI young dairyman

Name: Sara
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-05-11 02:26:49
Comments: (refering to what you wrote for your comment to my last comment) I don't think that all the censored stuff is true but I think that it's about time that someone else stands up for the truth. The truth is that MILK ROCKS!!!

Name: Robert
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: London, Ontario, Canada
Time: 1999-05-11 01:33:19
Comments: Dear Robert, I bought your book, love it and your site. I agree wholeheartedly with your information. I have studied in the nutrition field for many years now. Even so, I still could not find a cure for migraines. I had only used organic skim milk. When I quit dairy, and added some magnesium, goodbye to almost all migraines. And not to mention some general tiring symptoms. I usually don't say things like this, but only the close minded and uneducated will condemn your work in my opinion. The IGF issue bothers me a little, because of the recent glut of growth hormone/longevity misinformation floating around. Increasing IGF is a sought after solution for some people, and may mistake this for consuming more milk to get more with the thought it would have positive effects. From my area of study, I can tell you that Growth Hormone can cause pancreatic cancer, diabetes, carpal tunnel, edema, and all sorts of mischief. The link to these ailments are there, with the milk IGF and with growth hormone which is an IGF stimulant. Any more info on this is appreciated. Good luck to you! Robert.

Name: Stacy Prisbrey
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From: Woodland,Utah
Time: 1999-05-11 01:10:24
Comments: Dear Robert, May I commend you on your willingness to stand up to the world. It's never easy to go against the grain (no pun intended), but I beleive we are better for it. There will always be those who want their free angecy in saying what they beleive, but don't like when others are doing so. There will always be those fighting against anything good and true and right, no matter what form it comes in. Please continue in your fight, and know that for some of us, the gratitude we feel is immesureable. At least this way, we have a choice. If others refuse to believe then this is fine, but I like knowing the facts, so that my ability to choose is there. I'm sure for the men that make their money in this business, this is terrible to read...all your darkest secrets are there, but they should know, few will believe, but you had a duty to share, and I thank you. Sincerely, Stacy Prisbrey P.S. You should know I grew up on a dairy farm...

Name: Sita Murali
Website: Sita's Homepage
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Srinagar, Kashmir, India
Time: 1999-05-10 22:32:54
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, Thank you for your response to my question about milk hormones. However, I think my biology teacher was referring to the hormones which Monsanto produces, not the naturally occuring ones. He said that those hormones are digested as proteins and therefore cannot cause harm to humans. He claims that people like you who oppose the use of hormones really don't know the truth about how the human body works. I know this isn't true but can you post some good scientific evidence to prove it?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sita,

FDA scientists approved rbST because they concluded that it was not orally active. Canadian scientists recently reviewed Monsanto's application for that hormone and disagreed with the conclusion. Your teacher is not correct. Protein hormones contained in milk survive digestion. Lactoferrins and immunoglobulins are protein hormones.

Ask your teacher whether or not breastfeeding works. According to his logic, it could not because the proteins are destroyed in the stomach.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-05-10 06:43:10
Comments: Having externally researched into the issues you present on this site I have to admit I TOTALLY agree with you. You are a VERY brave person to do what you are doing and I don't think I would have the guts or patience to do it. You are doing an excellent job and your persistence and concern for others' health has to be greatly admired. My grandad, a doctor most of his life, has always said dairy was not suitable for humans. We all thought he was mad but now I realize he was way ahead of his time. Since my familly has given up dairy we have all seen the benefits you talk of.

Name: Candace Winship
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Aiken, South Carolina
Time: 1999-05-10 04:54:31
Comments: Thanks for a great site! I just spent an hour reading previous messages. -Better than people-watching 'cause you get to see what they're thinking. I stopped drinking milk about 4 years ago and don't miss it at all. Cheese and ice cream I'll have occasionally, but now I'm inspired to cut all that out as well. Question, though: several messages had references to pizza. I often order pizza without the cheese, please. Is there another dairy product lurking in my pizza? And if not, all youse guys order your pizza without the cheese. Yumsville.

Name: Sara
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-05-10 04:13:37
Comments: I really enjoyed what Mark Tillman wrote in this guest book record number 1079 it's about time that someone put some truth in here!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sara,

What kind of vile creature are you, dear?

After censoring Tillman's post, here is what it looked like:

YOU (censored). i can not beleive that a (censored) like you can acctually live!! you are a disgrace!!! YOU HAVE THOURLY INSULTED ME !! I HOPE YOU DIE A VERY SLOW AND PAIFUL DEATH AND SOON!! I AM A DAIRY FARMER,S SON AND THIS (censored) ON YOUR WEBSITE IS NOT TRUE !!!! STOP (censored) WITH PEOLES HEALTH!! DAIRY PRODUCES ARE PERFECTLY SAFE!!!! YOUR SITE WILL BE SHUT DOWN BY THE USDA!! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED WITH YOUR SELF!! GOODBYE YOU (censored) (censored) (censored) P.S. YOU ARE A (censored) (censored)!

Is this your version of truth? You are pathetic, Sara.

Mark Tillman also wrote this TRUTH in the ANTIDAIRY Coalition guestbook page:

I INTEEND ON FILEING A LAWSUITE AGAIST YOU! THIS SITE IS A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY! I ADVISE YOU TO DELETE YOUR SIT FROM THE INTERNET BY MAY 16,1999 OR A LAWW SUITE WILL BE FILED

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. This TRUTH-TELLER of yours is full of baloney and he'll never file a suit.

It is interesting to note, however, that on May 5th you posted a message to this guestbook and three minutes later Mr. Tillman's post was made. You two don't happen to know each other, do you?

He (Tillman) did not have the guts to record his EMAIL address while you did, Sara. Perhaps you two will one day own a dairy operation together. You, no doubt, will the the one wearing the overalls!

By the way...speaking of truth...On May 8th (POST #1090) a letter signed JIM THOUSTEIN was posted to this guestbook. Electronic signatures are like fingerprints: no two are exactly the same. Either Jim Thoustein and Mark Tillman are one and either the same person, or, well, Sara...Mark might be into a relationship you know nothing about. Make sure you insist on blood tests before you two decide to enter into a partnership you might regret. Enuf said?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Brenda
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Waterloo, Canada
Time: 1999-05-09 02:53:35
Comments: Thanks for helping get the word out. For two years I was seriously asthmatic and was put on various types of medications whose side effects were almost as bad as the problem they were fixing. I would have been saved a lot of grief if someone had just told me from the outset that milk might be the culprit - which it was. Today, I am on no medication and am virtually cured of asthma.

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-05-09 01:23:35
Comments: Robert, A recent edition of The American Journal of Agriculture Economics (Feb. 99,Vol 81) suggests:"Data from 211 New York dairy farms were used to estimate ex post rbST adoption functions and to measure the impact of rbST on milk output and profitability of those farms.

The use of rbST was found to significantly increase milk production per cow. The impact on profits was, however, insignificant.

The implications here are pretty obvious....rBST doesn't make much difference, at least not on thses 211 farms in NY so why do you suppose all of the dairy farmers keep using it?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

That's a good quetion, Jim, and there is a very simple answer.

MONSANTO (Posilac's manufacturer) continues to advertise their rbST in dairy magazines and guarantees a profit of $5 every two weeks per each rbST-treated animal. However, in order to make more milk, the cows have to eat more and the farmers have to hire more hands to shovel the aditional deposits of cow fertilizer.

Typically, a cow eats 60 pounds of feed each day to produce 24 quarts of milk. Posilac will allow her to make 20% more milk. She will then need about 12 pounds more each day of feed to make about 5 quarts of milk. Can the $2.50 weekly profit per animal be justified by 168 pounds more of feed? If the farmer pays 1.5 cents per pound for his feed, it's a break even proposition. (Don't forget the cost of getting rid of that extra ferilizer!)

Speaking of fertilizer, perhaps the brainwashing factor has something to do with this. MONSANTO hired the best experts money could buy and dairymen, like consumers who drink milk, are easily taken in by propaganda.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-05-08 22:35:00
Comments: Hi Robert, I am having quite some success in informing people about the dangers of dairy consumption and some people have given up dairy from my advice. One person actually asked me some questions that I was unsure how to answer and wondered what your advice to him would be. He asked:

  1. If IGF-1 gets into your blood stream how do we know that the body isn't capable of getting rid of it if it is in excess before it can do any damage (in the same way that vitamin C is if taken in excess)?

    I said that hormones do affect the body before the body gets rid off excess because otherwise how does contraception (the pill) work and why do athletes take hormones to increase performance.

  2. I can see that IGf-1 is associated with increased risk of prostrate cancer but at the end of the day only 0.1% of poulation get prostrate cancer each year and I'm willing to take the risk for the taste.

    I said that IGF-1 affects cancer growth for many different kinds of cancers and 1 in 3 people get cancer. It is not just 0.1 % population as he said.

  3. I don't produce mucus when I have. He sited studies in which only 3% of the population were found to have an allergy to casein.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nicholas,

Those were pretty good answers!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michelle
Website: Michelle's Animal Page
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NH
Time: 1999-05-08 20:50:22
Comments: Hey nonmilkman! I love your page!!! I'll be sure to tell all of my milk drinking friends about it. Thanks for spreading the real truth about milk!!!

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-05-08 18:55:47
Comments: Robert, Just a thought on your response at Post #1090...Most children drink milk but most children don't have juvenile diabetes! Why is that? Hmmmmmmmmm?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

Some people get leukemia and some do not. One twin could smoke five packs of cigarettes every day and the other smoke none. Both or neither might get cancer. There must be a cellular disposition to contracting or defeating disease. We are all unique.

In the case of diabetes, there are cell markers that have been identified as indicators for this disease. It seems that a combination of the antigen (bovine proteins) and the cellular disposition is what results in insulin dependent diabetes mellitus. Sixteen million Americans have Type I or Type II diabetes.

If you have trouble understanding this concept, think of Russian Roulette. Hold a six chambered gun containing one bullet to your head and the odds are one out of six that your life will end, should you pull the trigger.

Your greatest chance of survival is: Don't play the game!

With milk, the absolute link is there. Early exposure to bovine proteins is a cause of diabetes. If you are the parent and your child is so diagnosed, the tragedy is real and the odds book can be thrown away.

The best way to play the game?

Don't tempt the odds: Don't drink the milk!

Everybody does not get diabetes. It's a longshot. Sixteen million out of 270 million is a 17-1 longshot. A racehorse would return $36 for a $2 bet on those odds. Do you imagine that is consolation for one so affected?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: George McFly
Website: Utah Animal Rights Coalition
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Salt Lake City
Time: 1999-05-08 11:35:23
Comments: Check out our spiff, fund raising, catlog. I think you'd really like our "got morals" T-shirt!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Nice T-shirt! The front asks: GOT MORALS?

The back reads: A glass of milk is six years of enslavement. Abolish slavery. Go vegan.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: jim thousteen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: new york
Time: 1999-05-08 03:08:47
Comments: this site has no truth to it!!!!!!!!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Hello, Jim. It should be no trouble at all for you to cite one example in which there is a lack of truth.

I write a column each week and "Squirt of NOTMILK Wisdom" every day. There are hundreds of files and tens of thousands of words on this site.

Here are just some of the contents of a column I recently wrote on Diabetes. GOT FACTS?

The July 1990 issue of Scientific American asked the question, What Causes Diabetes? Authors Mark Atkinson and Noel Maclaren recognized that an autoimmune response in which the body's own pancreas cells (beta cells) are "ambushed" is the key to Type-I and Type-II diabetes. Two years after the publication of this profound determination, Scientific American wrote (October, 1992): "The National Dairy Board's Slogan, 'Milk. It does a body good,' sounds a little hollow these days." The journal then identified a team of Canadian researchers who found evidence that early exposure to a protein in cow's milk may sometimes lead to juvenile diabetes. Eighty-five percent of the people identified in this study came from families with no previous history of diabetes. Scientific American further cited a study, which appeared in July of 1992 in the New England Journal of Medicine (July 30, 1992, page 302, Karjalainen, et. al). The authors of this study wrote in their abstract:

"Studies in animals have suggested that bovine serum albumin is the milk protein responsible for the onset of diabetes."

Their conclusion:

"Patients with insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus produce antibodies to cow milk proteins that participate in the development of islet dysfunction... Taken as a whole, our findings suggest that an active response in patients with IDDM (to the bovine protein) is a feature of the autoimmune response.

THE PREVENTION OF EXPOSURE TO COW'S MILK EARLY IN LIFE PREVENTS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS DISEASE."

In June of 1992, the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on Nutrition recommended that cow's milk was not suitable as an alternative to breast milk for the first year of life. (Pediatrics, 1992; 89; 1105-1109). A letter in a subsequent issue of that journal written by pediatricians Lane Robson, MD and Alexander Leung, MD of the Alberta Children's Hospital asked:

"In lieu of the recent evidence that cow's milk protein may be implicated in the pathogenesis of diabetes mellitus, we believe that the Committee on Nutrition should clarify whether cow's milk is ever appropriate for children and whether or not infant formulas that are based on cow's milk protein are appropriate alternatives to breast milk."

In October of 1996 (LANCET, 348; 926-928) Cavallo, et al discovered that antibodies to BETA-CASEIN are present in over a third of IDDM patients and relatively non-existent in healthy individuals. Their work supports the sentiment that bovine proteins play a key role in the pathogenesis of IDDM.

In December of 1996 (LANCET, vol. 348, Dec 14, 1996) Simon Murch, MD, of the Department of Pediatric Gastroenterology of the Royal Free Hospital in London wrote:

"Cow's milk proteins are unique in one respect: in industrialized countries they are the first foreign proteins entering the infant gut, since most formulations for babies are cow milk-based. The first pilot stage of our IDD prevention study found that oral exposure to dairy milk proteins in infancy resulted in both cellular and immune response...this suggests the possible importance of the gut immune system to the pathogenesis of IDD."

In that same issue, researchers from New Zealand (R. B. Elliot, MD, et. al, Department of Pediatrics, University of Aukland) paralleled earlier studies and investigated diabetics in three locations: Auckland, New Zealand, Giessen, Germany and Sardinia, Italy. They reported finding a higher level of antibodies to bovine proteins, particularly CASEIN in diabetics than in healthy individuals.

GOT TRUTH?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 1999-05-06 19:15:39
Comments: In your book you indicate the European Community has put a moratorium on the use of Monsanto's growth hormone. I assume the scientists in the EU did studies on this hormone in order to ban it. Is there any possibility of your acquiring the results of their studies?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

Investigative government agencies like America's FDA or the European Union or Health Canada offer TRADE PROTECTED status to companies submitting research. This means that the studies are often kept confidential.

One may wonder what SECRETS they are hiding from us.

Scientists in Canada recently reviewed MONSANTO'S secret study (authored by Richard, Odaglia and Deslex) and found that lab animals were affected by the hormone now in our milk and cheese. That conclusion agreed with Europe's findings. America approved the same hormone. I found out that the key study was never reviewed by FDA during the approval process, and was only reviewed after the poison was approved for our food supply.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-05-06 01:39:34
Comments: Robert, In your response to my question about HGH (Post#1086) I think you missed a KEY WORD. That word was INJECTED! The athletes in question are injecting these substances. I even have it on good authority that they have been INJECTING milk since as far back as 1968. And why do they inject it? Because they know that HGH and IGF-1 and all the rest of these bio-active hormones that you refer to don't make it through the digestive process. Comments?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

While that news of yours is comforting to me, Jim, women taking oral contraceptives will not be overjoyed by such news. Neither will the drug manufacturers.

For that matter, neither will mothers who breastfeed their infants. According to your theory, hormones in breast milk cannot work. I've got news for you, Jim. Milk happens to be a pretty efficient hormonal delivery system. Whoever invented the stuff deserves to win a Nobel Prize (at the very least!)

You are correct about one thing, though. East German athletes injected milk many years ago. They were aware that milk contains powerful hormones. Today Americans drink less liquid milk and more concentated products containing those same powerful growth hormones. GOT CHEESE? GOT ICE CREAM? When everybody eats growth hormones with fat and chloesterol, a society will find that they GOT OBESE!

By the way, please explain this well accepted biological fact: How does EGF (epidernal growth factor) survive digestion?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sondra
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maryland
Time: 1999-05-06 00:41:32
Comments: Thanks for supplying so much useful information on your page...this site is a valuable resource I haven't quite made it through all the links yet, so you may have answered these questions already, but I was wondering about a couple of things: 1. Is milk produced on organic farms that don't use hormone or antibiotic treatments as bad for us as the milk we get from large industries?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sondra,

Every sip of ORGANIC milk contains 59 different bioactive hormones. Eighty percent of the protein in ORGANIC milk is CASEIN, a protein which causes histamines and then mucus.

2. Do you have any info about the link between dairy consumption and eczema or other skin conditions? I've heard that there is a cause and effect relationship, and was wondering if there is any info on your site or elsewhere about the connection.

Those people who give up all milk and dairy products have found that their skin problems improve. Read through the letters on this guestbook page and you will find a few dozen such testimonies.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-05-05 21:46:41
Comments: Robert, I came across the following article recently..."The International Olympic Committee is trying to devise tests to detect whether an athlete has been using HGH." So far, no reliable test exists. The problem is that 25 minutes after HGH has been injected, its level in the blood has halved. And because the body generates HGH naturally, the injected form and natural forms are indistinguishable. Richard Budgett, director of medical services at the British Olympic Association, says, "The new tests for HGH may go looking for levels of IGF-1. What they will really be looking for is an abnormal picture in terms of the growth-factor level." Which prompts this question...If HGH is doesn't stay in an athlete's blood all that long wouldn't the same be true for BGH? You did know that the IOC is concerned about athletes "doping" with (bovine) colostrum didn't you?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

When growth hormone (GH) was first discovered, it appropriately was named because it promoted growth. Insulin-Like Growth factor (IGF-I) is a much more powerful growth factor. Had IGF-I been discovered first, it most certainly would have been named GH.

Human growth hormone has 191 amino acids. Bovine growth hormone also has 191 amino acids. The amino acid sequence of these two hormones differs by about 35 percent.

IGF-I has 70 amino acids. The sequence is identical between human and cow.

Olympic athletes have better advisors than IOC officials. IGF-I is where it's at. There is no test for IGF-I because the genetically engineered version is identical to that which the body manufactures.

Bovine colostrum is an inexpensive way of obtaining enormous quantities of IGF-I and users are secure that there will never be a test, since both hormones are identical.

Since all humans are different, baseline levels of IGF-I would differ from athlete to athlete. There cannot be a test.

I am not really concerned about Olympic athletes using performance enhancing drugs.

What concerns me is 5 year old girls who will grow and mature at inappropriate rates. I am also concerned for their mothers who may one day develop breast cancer by taking too much IGF-I, the hormone identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast cancer.

Drink milk or eat colostrum and you ingest large amounts of the most powerful growth hormone known to science.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Bob Day
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: virginia
Time: 1999-05-05 20:37:06
Comments: Dear Bob I met you at a health convention in Pa and got your tape last fall- you're right, you are a fanatic at this point, but then all good causes have fanatics. While I sometimes disagree with the quickness you take every word or study and extrapolate to the point which best supports your belief, I definitely agree with the need to eliminate milk from our national repertoire. It is not only unnecessary, but very unhealthy, and environmentally very costly. How do people sleep at nights, knowing that they're overconsumption of resources has sentenced many others around the world to starvation, and depletion of natural resources. Maybe they just don't know. If we don't care about Ethiopians, what about the seventh generation of our own children facing a desert world where cows (and the agriculture that supports them) have used up all the water and depleted our topsoils. Just like cutting down virgin forests, the question isn't whether we will stop, the question is will we stop before it's all gone. Then again, maybe the unhealthiness of meat and milk are instant karma, visited on those who continue their overconsumption. What goes around comes around and bites us in the ass. I guess somebody has to raise the cry- it seems to be the time for us to reform many of our evil ways- and the beginning of the reform is always awareness- which historically is always resisted at first. Good luck with your campaign, and while your style and mine may differ, I definitely agree with the basic content of the message. Bob Day

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Bob,

I am happy to read that you agree with the basic content of my message. I am passionate about the things I speak and write about. What separates a fanatic from somebody who knows and spreads truth? It's his audience who either receives or rejects the message.

I'm just going to have to try harder! :>)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 1999-05-05 19:48:32
Comments: This comment is directed to Mark Tillman of comment #1079. You say that you have been insulted. Have you read Mr. Cohen's book or read any of the weekly comment sections of this website? If not, then you are insulting the intelligence of the rest of us by speaking from ignorance. If you had read this information with an open mind, you might not have commented with such hostility. You say that you hope Mr. Cohen dies a slow and painful death. Well I hope Mr. Cohen lives a long and blessed and prosperous life because he is a courageous patriot who loves the people of this country so much he is willing to suffer death threats to warn the people of the deadly contents of milk. Milk is causing a lot of people to suffer slow and painful deaths because of the hormones, antibiotics, harmful proteins, pus, feces, steroids, pesticides, iodine and who knows what else gets into dairy products. How can this concoction be safe for anybody? You say this site will be shut down by the USDA. I would not be surprised that they might attempt this. Have you ever heard of the constitution and freedom of speech? With the corruption in the FDA and other parts of this government an attempt to usurp our rights will undoubtedly be tried. You are the one who should be ashamed with the curse words that you apparently tried to inflict on this website. That's what happens when people cannot submit an intelligent argument for their case. They curse their opponent. Wake up! Open your mind and read the documented evidence Mr. Cohen presents. This is one of the sickest countries in the world and the dairy industry is making it sicker!! Ask yourself,why won't anyone from the dairy industry debate Mr. Cohen? Because they know the evidence is against them.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

Thanks for your kind words. The real problem is that there are so many "kill the messenger" letters by folks not bothering to read the message.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: DR Harris
Website: Home Page
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Adelaide
Time: 1999-05-05 09:09:44
Comments:

Robert Cohen,

I thought your comments to Peter Argenta below were a bit unfair. Whether it's IGF-I or ILGF is immaterial, we all know what is meant.

Oh well! we'll see if this message sees the light of day, intact. If not, well... It'll just reaffirm my current opinion of you.

Dear Dr. Harris,

Dr. Argenta came to me with sarcasm, ridiculing what he believed to be my lack of knowledge. In fact, he is a medical school professor and did not know the proper name of the most powerful growth hormone in the human body.

You and Dr. Argenta have one thing in common:

BAD ADDITUDES.

However, he has one thing that you do not, sir. Dr. Argenta has a medical degree and has earned the right to have the title Dr. before his name.

You, on the other hand are a pretender. I have read your columns on sites advocating hunting and anti-animal rights agendas. You continue to call yourself Dr. Harris, while you are anything but a medical doctor. I very rarely say this to my critics, but your comments are no longer welcome here.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jo
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-05-05 07:21:48
Comments: Does milk actually have testosterone in it? If so, would drinking milk increase your testosterone levels? Does it have any other sex hormones?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jo,

Every sip of cow's milk contains Estradiol, Estriol, Progesterone and Testosterone.

In her lifetime, a woman produces the equivalent of one tablespoon of estrogen. What that means is that your daily production is measured in billionths of a gram, or nanograms.

Hormones work on a nanomolecular level. It does not take much to exert a powerful biological effect.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Vince
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: CA
Time: 1999-05-05 07:14:33
Comments: I have trouble believing that there is a huge conspiracy against the american people that brainwashes them into thinking that milk is good. I dont think every doctor would be wrong when they say milk is good for you. And milk has 35% of your daily needed calcium per serving. I doubt you could find that anywhere else. And if milk really did cause cancer I dont think that it would be sold in stores. And just because milk has a protein that is that is the same in glue, dosent mean that it is bad, or drinking milk is like drinking glue. As, you can see I drink milk a lot and I will continue drinking it because this page has not convinced me to stop drinking it.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Vince,

Julian Whitaker, MD, is the author and editor of HEALTH & HEALING, the largest-read medical newsletter in the world. Here is what he wrote about milk in his October, 1998 issue:

"In only two generations, the rate of hip fractures in the U.S. has quadrupled, and it is currently one of the highest rates in the world. Americans are also near the top of the chart for dairy consumption. Would someone out there please tell me why we keep telling our children that dairy foods strengthen their bones? Excess protein intake-not only from milk but all animal protein sources-increases the need for calcium to neutralize acidic protein breakdown products, destroying bone in the process. A lifetime of a high-protein diet usually eats away at your bones. Lower protein vegetarian diets are associated with significantly higher bone mineral density. So the first and most important dietary step is to eat less protein. This generally means cutting down on milk...Although dairy products contain calcium, little of it is deposited in the bones-instead the calcium is used to neutralize the acidity brought on by milk protein."

Dr. Spock was the most well respectd and most-often quoted pediatrician in the history of America. In the final version of his book (CHILD CARE) Spock said that no human should ever drink cow's milk.

Many physicians have never taken a class in nutrition as it is not a med-school requirement.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Katie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-05-05 05:01:40
Comments:

Robert and All,

I've been nearly off of dairy products for two months. Although I haven't lost much weight on the scale (perhaps 4-5 lbs) my face has gotten considerably thinner, and I have much less breakouts.

I've also noticed that if I do consume something that has milk in it, or has a milk derititive in it, that within 2 - 3 hours my demeaner changes. I become moody. I also notice the same thing when I consume something with processed sugar in it.. With milk, I wonder if it's the allergins or the hormones that make the attitude change -- or maybe it's just in my mind...

I was wondering what you thought, Robert.

Best regards,

Katie

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Katie,

I really don't know what to think. Imagine the possibilities?

Is it the progesterone and estradiol, or the adrenaline and testosterone that you notice? Does the melatonin in milk affect your moods or perhaps it's the prolactin?

No endocrinoligist living can describe the effects of 59 different bioactive hormones, taken at the same time.

After eating dairy, your body reacts to CASEIN, milk's most abundant protein, by manufacturing histamines which fill your organs with mucus. Are you reacting then, to an internal fog?

All of these factors cumulatively combine to affect your behavior. Now thay you are paying close attention to your body, you see the differences.

Is it in your head? Absolutely! It clogs your sinuses and fills your ears. The phlegm lines your throat. The hormones go directly to your pituitary and to receptors in your hypothalamus.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: mark tillman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pavilion,New York
Time: 1999-05-05 02:59:48
Comments: YOU (censored). i can not beleive that a (censored) like you can acctually live!! you are a disgrace!!! YOU HAVE THOURLY INSULTED ME !! I HOPE YOU DIE A VERY SLOW AND PAIFUL DEATH AND SOON!! I AM A DAIRY FARMER,S SON AND THIS (censored) ON YOUR WEBSITE IS NOT TRUE !!!! STOP (censored) WITH PEOLES HEALTH!! DAIRY PRODUCES ARE PERFECTLY SAFE!!!! YOUR SITE WILL BE SHUT DOWN BY THE USDA!! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED WITH YOUR SELF!! GOODBYE YOU (censored) (censored) (censored) P.S. YOU ARE A (censored) (censored)!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mark,

You don't happen to own a trench coat, do you?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sara
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Brunswick
Time: 1999-05-05 02:56:12
Comments: You guys are so gullible! If a cow is ever injected with any drugs the farmer throws out that milk. It would never ever get to one of the stores that you but your milk from. They test the milk before it is pasturized. So if the farmer ever makes a mistake and puts it with the rest of the milk all the milk will be thrown out. So don't worry about it and drink up!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sara,

Guess who is really gullible?

The readers of CONSUMER'S REPORTS and THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. Both publications tested milk in the New York area and found the presence of 52 different antibiotics in milk samples.

Either those two publications made up a lie, or...

Somebody does seem to be gullible. Is it you, Sara, or the Wall Street Journal?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sita Murali
Website: Sita's Homepage
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Srinagar, Kashmir, India
Time: 1999-05-04 18:45:46
Comments: Dear NOTMILKMAN, My biology teacher says that there's no need to worry about hormones in milk since they are actually proteins which are all digested in the stomach. Is he really right?

Dear Sita,

Ask your biology teacher if he would mind doing a lesson on the birds & the bees and the birth control pills. There are steroid hormones in milk including estradiol, progesterone and testosterone. Do they not survive digestion?

Then ask him to tell you whether human breastfeeding works. Perhaps he would conclude that proteins like lactoferrins and immunoglobulins are destroyed in the stomach.

Maybe your teacher knows better than billions of women on this planet (and their pediatricians) who believe that these factors somehow survive digestive processes.

MILK buffers gastric pH and CASEIN and fat molecules protect hormones from degration in the stomach and gut.

Regards,

Robert Cohen


Name: Peter A Argenta
Website:
Referred by: Geocities
From: philadelphia
Time: 1999-05-04 00:07:47
Comments: Dear Sir, I am greatly concerned that the insights that you offer on this page are not only inaccurate but a great disservice to the people who read it. Your understanding of the literature on this topic is commensurate with that of a moderately well read college student. To pass this tripe off as scientific in nature is ridiculous. For instance, ILGF while expressed in the tissues of some cancer, the relationship is far from established. Oxygen is also found in cancer tissue - should we hold our breath? Perhaps you should do a little more homework before starting your next web-page sincerely, Peter Argenta MD

Dear Dr. Argenta,

Perhaps you are correct. I do not know all that there is to know. For example, I never heard of a hormone called ILGF. Is that a new hormone, taught only at your college?

As for holding your breath:

That's a fine way to produce carbon dioxide, not oxygen. It's also a way for little boys and ignorant doctors to turn blue.

You wrote that "ILGF is expressed in the tissues of some cancers..." Did you mean to say IGF-I? If so, IGF-I is expressed in ALL growing cancers. Perhaps it is you who need a bit of re-education.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim Robinson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Stowe, Pennsylvania
Time: 1999-05-03 20:50:21
Comments: Thanks for all the information. I still have some questions. What about fresh fish ? Salmon, Tuna. What fruits and veggys are the best sources of protein.I do some intense cross training including martial arts, indoor rowing, weight lifting. Do I need more protein ? From your article, it sounds like I dont. I guess I am still getting over the shock of the realities of the milk and meat information. Thanks again. Please suggest some good foods targeted for those who undergo intense phyusical training

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

The most intense cross trainer I ever met was Dave Scott, a vegetarian who won the IRONMAN TRIATHALON many times. That competition required athletes to first swim 2.3 miles. After the exhausting swim they would bike 125 miles. Finally, with every arem muscle and leg muscle screaming with pain and exhaustion, they would run a 26.2 mile marathon.

How did Dave WIN the competition and not eat meat?

I think he cheated. After all, he knew the effects of milk and dairy. While other competitors had gallons of mucus in their bodies, Dave's was free of congestion. Increased lung capacity resulted in better performance.

We all require protein. There are many different formulas, applied to different people of different age. Here is a simple guideline for you.

For every pound of body weight, you should eat about .4 grams of protein per day. That means that a 100 pound person should eat 40 grams of protein while a 150 pound person would require 60 grams of protein per day.

A 200 gram portion (7 ounces) of salmon or tuna that you mention contains abut 50 grams of protein. The same size portion of tofu or pinto beans has about 16 grams. Almonds are very rich in protein (and fiber) and contain 18 grams of protein per 100 gram portion.

Eat the fish for dinner and you satisfy your protein requirements for the day. Cheese is also very rich in protein. Wisconsin cheddar contains 25 grams of protein per 100 gram portion.

Too much protein creates an acid condition in the blood which the body neutralizes by taking calcium from your bones.

Perhaps that is the reason that Scandanavian countries have the highest rates of bone disease. All that Gouda might not be such a good idea.

A baked potato has four grams and a 100 gram portion of corn has three. A bana and apple have two grams each while a portion of rice has under three grams. Eat your fruits and veggies over the course of a day and the grams of protein slowly add up. Eat you typical American diet of meat at every meal, and you eat entirely too much protein.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Stewartsville, MO
Time: 1999-05-03 20:19:42
Comments: Hi Mr. Cohen, I haven't written to this site for a while - but just couldn't let some of these recent comments go. Now I see that type O blood cannot tolerate cows milk - I'm O+, as are my children, and for the recent readers who don't know, I have a small dairy, my children were raised on our cows milk. It's dangerous to make such general assumptions, the biggest threat to our health as a nation is inactivity. And since when are hormones a recent addition to our diet? Last night on the Discovery Channel was a show about things we think are a new invention that are actually ancient practices. Hormone birth control was practiced thousands of years ago with plant hormones - Queen Anne's Lace seeds are loaded with estrogen, and wild yams have enough progesterone to destroy a developing fetus. I didn't hear anything about soybeans, maybe they weren't domesticated at that time, but nowadays you can buy a soybean concoction to help get through menopause. Milk and meat are not the only products containing hormones necessary for human health. Young mothers have many more choices to make than we old moms had - I say thank God for technology. For the woman who thinks we who disagree with the 'anti-milk' philosophy are hostile - consider the fact that 'evolution' is what brought us to this web site. We wouldn't be having this discussion if our ancestors couldn't raise enough food to allow for leisure time - time to invent all these marvelous contraptions!! Everything that is ever made or done is not always for monetary gain, there is not always an underground conspiracy. The little 4-year old girl that was developing breasts? Too many other factors are involved - I would suggest all caffiene be eliminated first - it really is in almost everything nowdays, it is addictive and if it is not naturally in the product - it is included for a reason. I wouldn't worry so much about every bite - the kid could grow up to be anxious and compulsive. It is rather simple - eat a well-balanced diet, include a wide variety of all food groups, eat in moderation - and teach your children to live an ACTIVE life.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Carla,

Just for the record; it is my opinion that "EATING FOR YOUR BLOOD-TYPE" is complete nonsense. Before getting into your bloodstream, the foods you eat are broken down into their basic components. In the case of protein, that's amino acids.

Many hormones are made up of proteins. When proteins are not broken down, they survive to exert powerful biological effects. Whether you are O+ or AB- you will be influenced by ingesting insulin-like-growth factor-I.

Whatever your blood type, if you eat casein, your body will make mucus. Twelve hours after eating pizza, pay careful attention to the way you feel including phlegm and ease (or dis-ease)'of your next bowel movement.

GOT PIZZA? GOT SLUDGE! This works with just one slice of pizza. I do not believe that all things can be consumed in moderation. ALL humans are affected by milk caseins.

Regards,

The NOMILKMAN


Name: Janaki Kartal
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Nagpur, Maharashtra, India
Time: 1999-05-03 18:48:29
Comments: Dear NOTMILKMAN, I am from India and we do not put any hormones or chemicals in our cows. They are raised on our own family farm and they are never slaughtered because it is against our religion. So what wrong with a little milk now and then?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Janaki,

Why do you hold the cow to be so sacred? Indians believe that by killing a cow you might be killing the spirit of your incarnated mother or grandmother. However, as an adult, you find it acceptable to drink her milk.

The average cow in your country produces 3 quarts of milk each day. In America, the average cow produces about 24 quarts of milk each day. Our animals have been bred to be large beasts, and their milk contains greater quantities of hormones than does your milk.

Are just a small amount of hormones acceptable? That is your decision to make. However, I have made my decision, choosing not to have a daily intake of cow hormones in my body, or the bodies of my children.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Brandon Reyes
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: San Jose CA.
Time: 1999-05-03 15:15:39
Comments: Thank u 4 the truth. It is beautiful.

Name: Nui Earles
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle
Time: 1999-05-03 12:26:22
Comments: Sorry to add to an already long comment but I felt I had to after reading "Kevin's" comeback. I gave my two year old after breastfeeding for 18 months, soy milk and organic goat's milk. I don't mean to offend those who totally do not use dairy products at all. I think it is a valid point to avoid all dairy but we still use organic yogurt and cheese in moderation. I read that book by N.D Dr. Peter D'Adamo, about certain blood types avoiding dairy altogether and it seems to be true. If you are type o blood, dairy is not good (except goat). I could not believe the number of young mom's who thought I was strange for a)breastfeeding b)thinking formula was just gross....not only is it dairy from cows but corn syrup and just crap. I am an older mother and thought the younger generation would be more open but instead I found that young mom's (not all to be fair) seem really brainwashed. Kevin great comeback!

Name: Nui Earles
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle
Time: 1999-05-03 12:02:23
Comments: I read your comments and I agree wholeheartedly. Some of the negative comments sound like they are from really hostile people and it is surprising. I am a mom of a two year old who breastfed my baby and then gave him organic goat's milk, the receipe was from my grandma Katie who was born in 1895 and believed that it was best to avoid giving cow's milk to children. I could not believe the junk I received in the mail regarding cow milk based formula. Awful stuff, have you ever smelled it? My son did not get ear infections or other typical colds. I met another mom in local store once whose 4 year old daughter was taken off the cow's milk due to the fact she was developing so early...breasts at age four! I am a conservative person and not given to accepting everything that I read or hear unless I see from example that it is true...I am very concerned about the future of our children's health. I think dairy foods are okay in moderation and only if they are organic. We are going into an age where plastic and chemicals are everywhere and people are complexed about the cancer rates....really it is common sense to just look at the changes. For the really hostile people out there...consider that the people who are concerned about food additives and chemicals: these items are manufactured by folks who are making MONEY...the people who question these things are not making any money on wondering if they are good for us. The human race has been around millions of years without these additives and chemicals yet these hormones have only been introduced for a short time. There is no long term valid research of the long term potential hazards...use evolution as a model...Oh but I suppose the world is flat anyway...Thanks for the info.

Name: Kevin Jeffreys
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: St. Louis
Time: 1999-04-30 12:54:31
Comments: The other day a co-worker asked me what I pour on my cereal in the morning if I don’t drink milk. I said “either soy milk, rice milk, oat milk, almond milk or multi-grain milk”. He wrinkled up his nose and said “gross”. “Gross”, I asked. I said “my milk is filtered water pressed through an organically grown grain. Yours is unfiltered water pressed through the body of a disease infected farm animal”. You should have seen the expression on his face. I know it was the first time he had ever thought of it that way.

Name: sylvia baker
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: new york
Time: 1999-04-30 09:32:12
Comments: I heard this report on WBAI and found your website. I have forwarded this information on to my brother in the Bahamas. Thank you so much for this information. I have discontinued milk for well over a year. Now, when others ask why, I can give them notmilk.com. Thank you.

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-04-30 09:07:52
Comments: NOTMILKMAN, Want to take a little quiz? http://www.dairycouncilofca.org/hp-page-02.htm Let us know how you did :-)

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

Thanks for letting us know about the new dairy industry (phony) calcium quiz. The one redeeming factor is the broccoli illustration! Nice touch!

You've inspired me to create a new ANTIDAIRY Coalition CALCIUM QUIZ.

CHECK THIS OUT:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/050299.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Andrea Hewitt
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-04-30 01:40:46
Comments: I haven't had a chance to fully explore your site, but I looked through the links and didn't see anything regarding breastfeeding and cow's milk formula. I would expect you to be pro-breast feeding, since most formulas are made from a base of cow's milk. Anyway, just wanted to make that one comment, and hope to see more links discussing that important issue.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Andrea,

There is a link on my site called:

100% Perfect! 101 Reasons To Breastfeed Your Child

http://www.promom.org/101/

Breast milk is nature's perfect food for an infant!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lindsay
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Brunswick
Time: 1999-04-30 00:42:00
Comments: Notmilk guy, I agree with you that these things shouldn't be happening to cows and that its wrong. I'm sorry if I said some kindof mean things, but I don't agree with people who don't drink milk. And you must realize that our cows aren't raised to be slaughtered so we don't really mean for these things to happen. It is disgusting what they do to them and what they go through and I'm sorry if I offended you. Lindsay P.S. Just wondering, are you an animal rights activist for horses too? I'm just wondering

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENTS:

Dear Lindsay,

I really do not consider myself to be an animal rights activist. I am a people rights activist. I care about what we put into our bodies, and when we eat animal flesh we ingest concentrated forms of pesticides and dioxins. We also eat proteins which are difficult to digest. We deplete are resources and environment by raising cattle which require grazing land and vegetable feeds. We burn valuable rain forest lands to create more grazing land which depletes sustaining forests.

I do not doubt that you care very much for your animals. When you look into the eyes of a baby dog, or lamb or calf, you see understanding and love. When you have a farm pet or a house pet you feel close to that animal and in doing so, understand that all of God's creatures are so-connected.

Compassion to all animals allows men and women to show compassion to each other. Wouldn't the world be a better place if there were no soldiers or hunters?

I know of no humans who take pleasure in watching any animal be abused or tortured. The ultimate torture is taking another creatures life; holding death in one's hands.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ingrid
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tarrytown, NY
Time: 1999-04-29 16:11:08
Comments: Good morning, Robert! Thanks for responding to my note regarding goat's milk. I don't know if you didn't answer my question or if I am missing something but, is goat's milk in the same category as cow's milk and should it be off our list? I really don't care because I don't like any kind of milk but my husband can't quite seem to give it all up, so this is his compromise. Thanks.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Ingrid,

Try a little experiment. Pour your husband a tall glass of goat's milk and add one tiny drop of yellow food coloring. Tell him it's a new product, from man's best friends: DOGS MILK.

I imagine he'll get disgusted and not want to drink it. Instinctively, he will know that the "dog's milk" contains substances not intended for his body. The same reasoning should apply to the milk from any species of animal.

Milk contains lactoferrins, immunoglobulins, protein and steroid hormones from the mother of a species to the infant of that same species. Those proteins are readily accepted by the infant but act as antigens when they cross species lines. Antigens result in antibody production.

CASEIN is the most allergenic of cow's milk proteins. The percentage of casein in goat's milk is about the same as human breast milk. Cow's milk has triple the amount of casein.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Audra Slaymaker
Website:
Referred by: From a Web Ring
From:
Time: 1999-04-29 07:27:32
Comments: I support you efforts in finding out the truth and informing others. I would like to hear some alternatives to milk. What do you recommend is a good source of calcium?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Audra,

Foods are loaded with calcium. It is difficult not to get enough calcium in your diet. Human breast milk is Mother Nature's PERFECT FORMULA for baby humans. Even dairy industry scientists would not be foolish enough to debate this UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED FACT. In her wisdom, Mother Nature included 33 milligrams of calcium in every 100 grams, or 3 1/2-ounce portion of human breast milk.

Potato chips have 40 mg and beans have 50. Chick peas have 150. Grains like amaranth have 267 while broccoli has 102 and collards, 170.

Here is a column I wrote about calcium and how it is absorbed. Milk is NOT an efficient form of calcium because the large amount of protein actually creates an acid condition in the blood, leeching calcium from the bones.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/092098.html

At the conclusion of the above column there is a chart of calcium contents of various foods.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sara
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Brunswick
Time: 1999-04-29 00:09:51
Comments: How dare you talk to my good friend Lindsay that way! You know that milk is good for you but I guess that one day you just decided that you wanted all those hard working farmers to lose all their jobs. Alot of people don't enjoy what they do for a living, but Farmers Do!!! I love being in the barn with my Holsteins. I love spending time with them. I believe that cows are one of the best animals created. No matter what you do or say the smarter people will live the longest and they are the ones who beleive that you are wrong!!! Lindsay and I will be two of them.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sara,

Your friend Lindsay (letter # 1058) believes that farm animals live happily ever after. If they are lucky enough to be rescued by the good folks at FARM SANCTUARY, they might just do that!

http://www.farmsanctuary.org

We mourn for fifteen in Colorodo and celebrate when 10 working people are killed by a smart bomb dropped on a television studio in Kosovo. What kind of society are we? KLM airlines dumps 20 live squirrels into a paper shredder and few people, save for animal rights activists even care. We hold sacred farm animals, creating petting zoos for our children to visit on class outings. We then slice the throats of these animals where no one can observe their cry or pain. We wrap their flesh in cellophane packages and hire clowns and give away crowns with toys to children who eat their body parts. Their food comes in attractive bags, called "Kid's Meals."

Your friend should hold the sharpened blade in her hand and slit the throat of the cute calf which she will pretends to care for. She should watch the calf die, then slit its belly as it tastes its own blood. Tell me of the animal's cry and whether you and Lindsy think it feels pain. Then do another animal, and another. I hear that killers never get used to the act.

"How dare I," you ask? How dare I, not!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ingrid
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tarrytown, NY
Time: 1999-04-28 20:37:11
Comments: Hi! My husband, George, and I saw you in the debate at NYU. We had to leave a little before the end. If there were any judges there, I sure do hope they chose you as the winner because you were the only one of the three of you who really KNEW what they were talking about. My husband and I have been disagreeing on one thing ever since so I am hoping you can help. I say NO to goats' milk and he says goats' milk is okay. Maybe additives aren't added to goats' diets and they are "safe" that way, to me it's like you said: when you get to be a certain age and you do not breast feed anymore, you shouldn't have any kind of milk. Thanks for your advice. Ingrid

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Ingrid,

During the debate a professor (who had driven from the University of Pennsylvania) stepped up to the microphone to make his comments. This occurred after you had left, and was for me, the highlight of the evening.

After the debate ended, he approached me with an abusive attitude and vile language. As my 9 year-old daughter stood nearby, he cursed at me.

I laughed, and this made him even angrier. "Sir," I addresed him. "If you believe me to be wrong, why not invite me to a similar event at your university?" My challenge to him: "I'll take on any twenty of your professors at the university of Pennsylvania Dairy Extension."

There is no debating or defending the fraud perpetrated upon a trusting public by the scientists who are funded by those who would poison us.

For these men of science, it's all about money.

Nobody in government or the dairy industry has ever been able to answer the next question. I have used this in debate, and have written this many times.

FDA, USDA, NIH, WHO, JAMA; in fact every scientific agency believes two things:

When milk is pasteurized, 90% of the BST is destroyed.

BST-treated milk is absolutely no different than "wholesome" milk."

If the above two statements are true, then my following statement should be easy to prove wrong.

I say:

Pasteurized milk from BST-treated cows contains more BST that raw unpasteurized milk from cows that have not been treated.

If pasteurization destroys BST then this would be an easy point for my adversaries to win. Why won't they debate me? Because the pasteurization MYTH represents an enormous scientific fraud.

Those who participated in such fraud should be stripped of their academic standing and tenure and made to retire in disgrace. This includes the esteemed "father of all frauds:"

PROFESSOR DALE BAUMAN OF CORNELL UNIVERSITY

There is not one person in the dairy industry or from any scientific agency having the integrity or science to debate me on this issue. It is the NOTMILKMAN vs. everybody else in science on this simple issue, and not one of THEM will step forward. I can understand why.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Hannah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-04-28 05:16:19
Comments: As a child I loathed milk, I hated the icky taste and the horrible "thickness" at the back of my throat after drinking it. Now I'm over 45 people have stopped telling me I won't grow up to have healthy strong bones if I don't drink my milk, now they're telling me I'll get Osteoporosis if I don't drink milk - I don't think so!

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Detroit
Time: 1999-04-28 02:12:40
Comments: Great site and resource. Keep up the good work.

Name: Lindsay
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Brunswick, Canada
Time: 1999-04-28 02:07:23
Comments: Dear Notmilk Guy, What happens when people get into an accident and go brain dead?

Dear Lindsay,

I guess you're gonna tell me, but let me take a stab at this one; they pose for milkstache ads?

They go on one of those big machines that work their organs and stuff. After a while, when the doctors can't do anymore for them, so they shut the machine off, and the person dies. Well, when a cow is unable to make milk anymore, we do as much as humanly possible to get them better. Sometimes, we'll get them bred again and don't milk them until they have another baby and see if their any better. Sometimes we keep them even if their not milking and just keep getting embrios from them.. That way, they can be still useful even though they aren't milking. We don't do away with them until it's really nesisary. (Like if they are suffering from cancer or something) Also, our cows aren't used for meat, sorry to say.

Lindsay or Rapunzel or whatever your name is...You should let down your golden hair, escape from your castle and follow the cattle truck to the slaughterhouse. Your brain-dead cows are chopped up into little pieces, udders and all, becomming food for Ronald MacDonald and the other clowns.

Dairy cows are only used for dairy products, hense the name, dairy. Beef cows, again, hense the name, are used for beef products.

Sure, Lindsay, and chickens are the farm animals so named because they frighten easily; pigs eat too much and ducks know when to bend down low so the butcher's knife swings over their heads.

Now who's the smart one?

Not you, my dear. Culling is a very common practice. That's where your diseased cows and poor producers go. Hi ho, the derry-o, to the slaughterhouse they go. You've got some learning to do! I hope the shock doesn't destroy your rosy/insulated perception of factory farms.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Richard
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Issaquah,WA
Time: 1999-04-27 10:01:44
Comments: I enjoy milk....I've had my fair share in the last 56 years.........

Name: Heiða Dögg Liljudóttir
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Iceland
Time: 1999-04-27 06:45:42
Comments: I live in a country where milk is considered a cure for all ills. Not drinking milk myself when growing up left me very much guilt. I thought there was something wrong with me, because I didn't agree with the slogan: Milk is good! I found it very foul, in every way. It made me want to throw up. It wasnt until a few years ago that I heard, that milk isn't that good for you and still later that it was actually bad for you. So a heavy load was taken off my back, and I'm very thankful. Thank you.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Heiða,

In your country, Iceland, do children read the story of THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES? Sometimes it takes one lone voice to wake up all others. Help bring the truth to your fellow countrymen and women. Milk does NOT do the body good.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Erica
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Dallas, TX
Time: 1999-04-26 04:43:43
Comments: "Thai Fast Food" What's your favorite fast food? For teens in Thailand, a snack of milk and toast is all the rage. Michelle Cheung reports it's given the milk industry a boost...not to mention the height of Thai kids. " I copied the above text from the "Marketplace" website. I nearly flipped my lid when I was listening to Marketplace two days ago (23rd) on NPR. Does the member station in your area subscribe to that show? I thought for sure you'd mention it in your newsletter if you'd heard it. But two issues have come since I heard the disturbing news so I thought I'd write and encourage you to try to get a copy of the entire text (it is not posted on their website "marketplace.org"). Apparently you have to have a special plug-in (other than quicktime or real audio) to get it. The author seemed to think it was a good thing that the average height of Thai youth has increased more than an inch since milk has become so popular there and the dairy industry is booming. I wanted to vomit after hearing it. Just thought you'd be interested, Erica

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Thailand is fast becomming a model of ill health for all the world to observe.

Ten years ago the milk consumption per capita per year was only 2 litres. Now it is 12 and more. Thailand’s dairy farming is also rapidly expanded in terms of number of milk cows and productivity: the raw milk production has increased ten times from less than 100 tons a day ten years ago. In 1996 there were 125,000 dairy cows in Thailand. Today there are 270,000 cows. The beneficiaries of this milk are the children who receive free milk in schools.

As the children grow and mature earlier, so will the cancers, heart disease and osteoporosis. Milk will help the Thais become "westernized" in no time!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ashley
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: IL
Time: 1999-04-25 22:58:15
Comments: I am doing my research paper/ thesis paper on why milk does not do the body good. Can you halp me?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Ashley,

Yesterday I was asked to speak to a group of some of the most intelligent people in the New York area: a meeting of intellectuals who belong to MENSA.

Part of my lecture included a mystery in which they were asked to solve a puzzle that you could use as your term paper.

We've all seen medical shows in which the teaching physicians gives clues to his medical students, asking for a diagnosis.

Use the autopsy that I have on my website which includes an incorrect diagnosis from the medical examiner/coroner.

Carefully review the clues which include evidence that pizza takes fifteen hours or longer to digest. Examine what happens when the lungs and many internal organs are acutely congested with mucus.

Use the evidence from this link to write your paper:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/111598.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: pat mgroin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: sadf
Time: 1999-04-25 11:14:32
Comments: i like milk for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. if people stopped drinking, no more vitamin c. that would be bad. therefore i believe the entire puplic is behind me when i say "shut the (censored) up!" thank you and i look forward to reading your (censored) again soon.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Pat,

According to USDA food values, a 100 gram portion (3.5 ounces) of whole milk has less than one mg of Vitamin C. Compare that to an equal portion of orange juice which contains 50 mg of Vitamin C.

Just for the record, a 100 gram portion of carrots contains 9 mg of Vitamin C while the same portion of Wisconsin Cheddar cheese contains zero Vitamin C.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and perspective with us.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Heru Ankh Amen Ra
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Planet Earth
Time: 1999-04-24 20:47:41
Comments: After I went through your website, I had to click my love button for you! This is a noble thing that you have done. Keep up the struggle. Keep me informed. Hetepu!!

Name: Thorsten Albrecht
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Germany
Time: 1999-04-23 22:58:35
Comments: I¢m deeply impressed of these theses about milk. I¢m interested in the further discussion of it. For this topic I warmly recommend to visit http://community.expo2000.de/forum

Name: Joe
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-04-23 06:17:08
Comments: Hi, i have just surfed to your page and though you make some interesting points about milk, i feel you should also notify people about about other things such as vegetables. Most vegetables sold in grocery stores are grown in large hothouses. These vegetables are sprayed with insecticides and also have many fertilizers used to help them grow faster. It would seem to me that this is as bad if not worse than what is done to milk, which I think you have overrated and embellished with untruths.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Joe,

Do you really believe that most vegetables sold in supermarkets are grown in large hothouses? Perhaps you've watched one too many episodes of the "JETSONS." This might one day be true for colonies on Mars...but it does not reflect the reality of our world.

USDA monitors fruits and veggies for unsafe levels of pesticides. No such standards apply to feed crops for cattle. When pesticides are applied to a plant, and you eat that plant, you receive one dose of that pesticide.

When you eat the flesh of animals who feed on tons of such plants, you consume concentrated amounts of these same pesticides. When you drink their body fluids, you receive concentrated poisons.

Do dioxins in the air settle on these same plants? Of course they do. However, the World Health Organization recently determined that ninety percent of the dioxins entering the average human body are ingested in milk, dairy products and meat.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Teri Tigges
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-04-23 02:21:11
Comments: I really enjoy your webpage!! I think dairy consumers probably believe you, but don't have the strength to give it up. I gave up dairy for moral reasons, although the health reasons should be enough to turn anyone VEGAN, especially someone with an illness that may be able to improve their condition by elliminating dairy from their diet. You had a girl write in praising milk and stating she was from a dairy farm. John Robbins wrote the book 'Diet for a New America'. What a great book. Yes it is the Robbin's from 'Baskin Robbins' ice cream, of which his father wanted him to take over the business. He declined!! Another great book, explaining the dangers of dairy is 'Total Body Makeover', by MaryLou Henners. GREAT BOOKS!!! Thanks for your websight!!

Name: Jeff Krueger
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-04-23 00:50:17
Comments: At first, I thought that this would turn out to be a humorous website, but you take this way too seriously. No offense, of course.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeff,

Your's is the 1048th comment posted to this guestbook. Yesterday, another reader (Guestbook comment #1042) commented about the dairy industry site and in my response I included a link to the "NOTMILK QUIZ."

Here are some sample questions:

5. Larry King recently had triple bypass heart surgery and endorses "Garlique," a pill that is said to lower cholesterol. Larry also accepted money from the National Fluid Milk Processors and proudly posed for his milk mustache ad. What is the equivalent cholesterol eaten by the average American from various foods?

a) every day the average American eats one side of beef and two pigs

b) every day the average American eats from milk and dairy products the same cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon. That adds up to 19,300 slices of bacon each year and, by age 52, the same cholesterol as is contained in one-million slices of bacon

c) each day the average American eats 114 eggs

d) each day the average American eats one possum, two squirrels and an armadillo

6. Supreme Court Justice, Clarence Thomas was:

a) the actual star of the adult classic, "Long Dong Silver," the pornographic movie made famous by Anita Hill's complaint

b) the son of an Iowa dairy farmer, the first man to spread cream cheese on a bagel & the inventor of Thomas's English Muffins

c) MONSANTO'S attorney while working for the firm of King & Spalding, the same firm that had their attorney, Michael Taylor, hired by the FDA to write the labeling laws for the milk hormone that caused cancer in lab animals, a hormone now in our milk, cheese and butter

d) white newspaper reporter, John Howard Griffin, who stained his skin with dye and wrote the classic 1961 journal "Black Like Me"

7. Dairy cows have been fed:

a) two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun

b) body parts from their brothers and sisters, bone meal, blood meal and chicken excrement

c) three 12-ounce glasses of low fat or skim milk each day to satisfy their calcium requirements and insure that their bones will not break, should they ever make it to moo-nopause

d) chopped up body parts from re-cycled FDA bureaucrats, MONSANTO scientists and hunters

8. Dairy cows have strong bones and a lot of calcium in their milk because:

a) late at night they do their shopping at CVS pharmacies and purchase calcium and magnesium supplements which they take before every meal

b) in between cud breaks, they enjoy oyster shells and broccoli dredged in their favorite sour cream dips

c) they drink human breast milk which is loaded with calcium because they cannot obtain enough dietary calcium from their regular diets

d) they eat plants containing calcium and magnesium (which is the center atom of chlorophyll) in just the right proportions which insures that the calcium is adequately absorbed

9. A 100 gram portion of human breast milk (31/2 ounces), nature's perfect food for humans, contains 33 milligrams of calcium. Which statement is true?

a) One hundred grams of potato chips contain 40 milligrams of calcium, beans 50, chick peas 150, molasses 2,000 and sesame seeds 4,000. Broccoli contains 102 and collards 170.

b) a baseball bat contains 31 milligrams of calcium. A woman would have to eat thirty-six baseball bats to satisfy her daily dietary need

c) the National Science Foundation committee recommending that Americans increase their consumption of milk to get more calcium is completely unbiased, has no conflicts of interest and has no members with financial ties to the dairy industry

d) humans were designed (by God, mother nature or evolution-take your pick) so that they must drink body fluids from cows, dogs, monkeys and squirrels to satisfy their calcium needs

Should you take my site seriously? For milk lovers, my test might very well be your final exam!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lynne Robertson
Website: none
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: New York
Time: 1999-04-22 19:52:15
Comments: Hi Robert, You've done such a great job in educating people about milk and how unhealthy it is. I wish more people knew. Can't you get more mainstream publicity? I had this idea the other night: how about the TV show Politically Incorrect with Bill Mahr (sp?). Talking about milk, Monsanto, vegetariansim would be a topic that would lend itself well to the types of guests and shows he holds.(He had one on gun control on Tuesday night.) This is who I see for the guest panel: you, an exec from Monsanto or the dairy lobby, an anti-milk celeb who's vegan, and a pro-milk celeb like one who did a milk ad. I'm sure the Monsanto people would find this very threatening. In fact I wonder if the show's producers and network would allow it? Anyway, keep up the good work. Best wishes, Lynne Robertson

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lynn,

That would be nice. :>)

However, the dairy industry and Monsanto are not silly enough to go on national television and debate me. They've tried that a few times, and each opportunity, I chop them up into little pieces of Swiss cheese with big holes!

A friend "pitched" me to the Rosie O'Donnell show. Rosie's response? "We'd sooner do a show endorsing the boiling of babies."

Television derives enormous funding from the milk producers. Those milk pustache ads pay their rent.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website: Health scare over milk
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-04-22 17:13:30
Comments: In the UK we are currently having a bit of a crisis over the safety of milk and mycobacterium paratuberculosis causing Chrohn's desease (see above web site). I was also interested to read in the paper recently that rBST milk contains an increased amount of IGF-1 and that this hormone causes cancer. It seems your message is finally making it across the pond. Keep up the good work.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nicholas,

The English were smart enough to reject rbST for their milk. Safety of food products seems to be a greater concern in your country than it does in ours. In America, we pride ourselves on having a free press, with no censorship. HOWEVER, our free press accumulates enormous funding from the dairy industry.

There is a MILK/CROHN'S connection, and England has responsibly revealed this link to its citizens. Sadly, we are not doing the same in America.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Melanie Friffiths
Website: HELP! MY MILK MUSTACHE HAS CURDLED
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-04-22 14:28:33
Comments: I'd like to know about 'Galactosaemia'. Thank you Mr Cohen.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Melanie,

Galactosemia is a rare genetic disorder in which the body has an inability in breaking down GALACTOSE, a sugar.

Lactose is made up of two sugars; glucose and galactose. In order to break down lactose, the body needs an enzyme which most humans lack: LACTASE.

Galactose requires another enzyme: GALT (not to be confused with the protagonist in Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged).

Milk and dairy products should be avoided by anybody with this extremely rare genetic disorder. Label reading becomes a very necessary fact of life for those so affected.

There is an internet galactosemia support group:

http://www.galactosemia.org

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: jeffrey brust
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 1999-04-22 03:31:12
Comments: Can you name any dairies in the NY tri-state area that don't use that hormone. Are there any decent milk substitutes? thanks for the info,I am definitley cutting down my milk intake.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeffrey,

When I first learned about the MILK-HORMONE controversy, I discovered a wonderful farm with 95 Holstein cows; Ronneybrook farms. Ronneybrook's milk is sold in glass bottles and is found in many supermarkets in the New York area. I visited the farm with my children. These dairymen would never inject BST in their animals.

After that visit, I learned that all milk naturally contains this hormone and many other hormones. The healthiest milk from the healthiest cow naturally contains POWERFUL growth hormones.

I would not recommend that you drink this or any other cow's milk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Karen
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Florida
Time: 1999-04-22 02:45:36
Comments: This is a great page. If anyone has any suggestions or information for me. I have a 2 year old daughter who is absolutely addicted to milk. I have tried flavored soy and rice milk and she does not like it. I know it is bad for her. My family is vegetarian and that is the one thing that I have not been able to get her away from. Please e-mail me with any suggestions.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mom,

I have three suggestions.

First: If she is addicted, confront her "dealer!"

Second: Take away her set of car keys so she cannot drive to the supermarket to "feed" her habit. (Hold back her allowance money).

Third: The "terrible twos" are a period in which the child teaches her mommy to do her bidding. Ignore her GOTMILK tantrum and be compassionate while she withdraws from her addiction.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Shane Krepakevich
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: edmonton,alberta,canada
Time: 1999-04-21 23:38:15
Comments: I became aware of the page www.whymilk.com through your webpage and decided to pay it a visit. I was astounded at the amount of advertisement and reliance on entertainment (quizes were intended to be more fun than informative) that was within that page. I would just like to thank you for your lucidity.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Shane,

My lucidity? Is this your gentle way of hinting that the NOTMILK page is not enough fun?

Check out our version of the MILK QUIZ!

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/090698.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ingrid R. Guerci
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tarrytown, NY
Time: 1999-04-21 09:45:45
Comments: Dear Robert - We attended the dairy debate at NYU Tuesday night. We were not impartial but we were very pleased nevertheless at how well you presented your argument. We feel fortified and empowered by your advocacy. We were impressed with the facts that you had at your fingertips on various tests, studies, etc. We also were very concerned with the possible collusion with the dairy industry and governmental watchdogs and regulators that give us just cause to question. Well done and thank YOU!!! Ingrid and George.

Name: Lindsay
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada
Time: 1999-04-21 02:46:19
Comments: Hi. My friend told me about this sight and all of the stupid things you have been saying about milk. Her name is Sara and she is my best friend in the world and I was very upset when I heard that you were saying some not so nice things to her when she was simply saying what she felt about your false information. I felt that it was very rude and you all should just go to hell. Bleet that out if you want but it's still true. Those of you who read this and don't know what the bleeted out part is, think of it this way. H-E- double hockey sticks. That would be all, for the time being. In closeing I would just like to say that milk rocks.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lindsay,

You last posted a comment here on the tenth of April. Here was your post and my response:

Cows are good! Milk is good. I live on a dairy farm so I should know! You guys just (censored) so you can (censored). People who don't drink milk, get sick, and die. I guess that means that all of you people at notmilk.com will die. Too bad for you! Me and my good friend Sara will live happily ever after. (And so will our cows) In closing, I just have to say this one thing. Cows rock! NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Lindsay, What happens to the cows on your farm when they no longer produce milk? Do they live happily ever after? I've always wondered whether they use the udder in Burger King's all-beef patties? Do me a favor and ask your daddy and get back to me, okay sweetheart?

Have you had that little talk with dad?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Avalon
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: imperial, tx
Time: 1999-04-21 01:59:42
Comments: heard you on paul gonzales show this morning -- great info and great site! sent it to several friends. keep up the good work, especially encouraging women to breastfeed AND good recipes for alternatives to milk only one thing i wish you'd add: a good place to get tofu milk by mail order! i live WAY, way out in the country/desert -- thus my milkgoats (for yougart, feta and a tiny bit in coffee) -- 70 miles for shopping and few sources of tofu milk in 'town' such as it is!

Name: Peter Tallas
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Oakland California
Time: 1999-04-20 22:25:18
Comments: Came across this interesting report linking casein with type I diabetes incidence. Type I (insulin-dependent) diabetes mellitus and cow milk: casein variant consumption Elliott,R.B., Harris,D.P., Hill,J.P., Bibby,N.J., Wasmuth,H.E. Diabetologia 42(3):292-296 (1999 Mar) Previously published Type I (insulin-dependent) diabetes mellitus incidence in 0 to 14-year-old children from 10 countries or areas was compared with the national annual cow milk protein consumption. Countries which were selected for study had appropriate milk protein polymorphism studies, herd breed composition information and low dairy imports from other countries. Total protein consumption did not correlate with diabetes incidence (r = +0.402), but consumption of the beta-casein A(1) variant did (r = + 0.726). Even more pronounced was the relation between B-casein (A(1) + B) consumption and diabetes (r = + 0.982). These latter two cow caseins yield a bioactive peptide beta-casomorphin-7 after in vitro digestion with intestinal enzymes whereas the common A(2) variant or the corresponding human or goat caseins do not. beta-casomorphin-7 has opioid properties including immunosuppression, which could account for the specificity of the relation between the consumption of some but not all beta-casein variants and diabetes incidence. milk; casein; epidemiology; immunosuppression; beta-casomorphin Reprint : Dr. R.B. Elliott, Diatranz, 19 Laureston Ave, Auckland, New Zealand

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Peter,

The four letters previous to yours (1034-1037)were written by D. Harris, the same name as one of the authors of your study. Could this be an enormous coincidence?

I wrote about diabetes and the milk connection in December. Early exposure to bovine proteins has been implicated as being the cause of Type-I diabetes.

"http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html

Thanks for posting this study! I am happy to see Dr. Elliot follow up his brilliant work, published in The Lancet in 1996. You can find reference to his original work in the above referenced column.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: DR Harris
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Adelaide, Australia
Time: 1999-04-20 07:02:50
Comments:

Part 4

"Poor source of calcium" Where’s the reference/evidence for this. I can imagine that this would be a reasonably straight forward study. Get 2 groups of test subjects. One group on a high calcium dairy diet and one on a high calcium non-dairy diet. Measure the amount of calcium in the groups faeces after a trial period. Is that the sort of clear cut study that backs up this claim.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Doc,

The reference? Dairy industry expert, Robert Heaney (University of Creighton) admits that only 25% of the calcium in milk is absorbed. As for studies, the largest study in the history of mankind (Harverd Nurse's study with 120,000 subjects) recently demonstrated that women who drank milk as teens later were the ones who developed more hip fractures than those who did not consume milk.

"Pasteurisation does not work." This type of "blanket" claim is easy to recognise as bogus. Perhaps you really mean "Pasteurisation is not completely effective against some pathogens." I’d like to know from where this claim comes.

Did your medical school courses consist of classes in microbiology or bacteriology? Rod-shaped bacteria form spores at the first sign of heat. "Spore" is the Greek word for "seed." Whenthe milk cools, the seed re-emerges into its prior bacterial form. We know, by its smell that something evil grows in milk. We pour it down the drain on day seven and drink it on day six.

Your site also states that many people are lactose intolerant. True, but many different people are allergic/intolerant to many different things. If we were to cut from our diet all foods to which some people are allergic, or foods which are harmful in excess, then there would be nothing to eat.

I only suggest cutting all milk and dairy from your diet, doc. Once mammals are weaned from their mommy's milk, there is no nutritional need for this "perfect formula."

These are just a few points which make me sceptical of the material which you present. I have/will not bothered to investigate every detail only the things that stand out which are the core of your argument against dairy. There may be some truth to claims you have made but how can I accept anything you say when you have published poorly referenced statements and questionable statistics.

Your choice is to investigate whatever you wish. You previously stated that you have neither the desire, nor inclination to check the many hundreds of references contained on this site.

The scare-mongering that you are propagating over the Internet is unjustified. Personally, I believe that it is more important to monitor what comes out of our mouths rather than what goes into it.

That's what makes you a physician, sir. CLUELESS, like many other physician's who dismiss the importance of foods we eat.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: DR Harris
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Adelaide, Australia
Time: 1999-04-20 06:57:16
Comments:

Part 3

"Cancer?" Well what pseudoscientific health site is complete without mentioning "The Big C". In your case you don’t even have anything on paper. Oh well, never mind, just say "conspiracy" and that will account for any lack of evidence in proving your point.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Doc,

There you go again...In January I wrote a column dealing with that very subject. Here are the rantings of a fanatic:

IGF AND CANCER - THE SCIENCE Critics of the ANTIDAIRY Coalition claim that there is NO REAL SCIENCE behind the IGF-I CANCER CLAIM. The actual science exploding that contention appears in highly regarded scientific journals including the American, Japanese, British, European and International Journals of Cancer. In addition, there are important papers published in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology, Journal of Cellular Physiology and American Journal of Clinical Pathology. The "smoking gun" is an autopsy study that appeared in the New York Times. That study revealed that cancers, particularly BREAST CANCERS, are actually quite common and appear at a SHOCKINGLY young age. CANCER AND IGF-I IGF-I has been identified as an autocrine and endocrine growth regulator that ACCELERATES various types of cancer. IGF-I is considered to play a key role in the proliferation of pancreatic cancer cells, according to Gillespie. (J. Gillespie, et al. "Inhibition of pancreatic cancer cell growth in vitro by the tyrphostin group of tyrosine kinase inhibitors." Academic Surgical Unit, St. Mary's Hospital Medical School, Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine, London, UK. Br.-J-Cancer, December, 1993, 68(6), pp. 1122-1126.) Glick noted that IGFs play a considerable role in the regulation of glucose metabolism in central nervous system tumors. (R.P. Glick, et al. "Identification of insulin-like growth factor (IGF) and glucose transporter-I and -3 mRNA in CNS tumors." Department of Neurology, University of Illinois at Chicago, Cook County Hospital. Regul-Pept., October, 20,1993, 48(1-2), pp. 251-256.) Atiq reported that IGF is associated with human colorectal tumors and colon cancer growth. (Atiq, et al. "Alterations in serum levels of insulin-like growth factors and insulin-like growth-factor-binding proteins in patients with colorectal cancer." Labor d'Immunologie, Faculte de Medecin, Marseille, France. Int-J-Cancer, May 15, 1994, 57(4), pp. 491-497.) Yashiro found that IGF-I activity was significantly higher in cancer extracts, suggesting that higher IGF-I activity in cancer tissue is involved in regulating growth of thyroid cancer cells. (T. Yashiro, et al. "Increased activity of insulin-like growth factor-binding protein in human thyroid papillary cancer tissue." Department of Sirgery, Tsukuba University, Ibaraki, Japan. Jpn-J-Cancer-Res., January, 1994, 85(1), pp. 46-52.) Robbins found that IGF-I increased lymphocyte numbers in every lymphoid organ examined. This increase had functional significance, and this scientist concluded that IGF-I produced locally by bone marrow cells was a key component of lymphatic cancer. (K. Robbins, et al. "Immunological effects of insulin-like growth factor-enhancement of immunoglobulin synthesid." Department of Immunology, Genetech, Inc., South San Francisco, California. Clin-Exp-Immunol., February, 1994, 95(2), pp. 337-342.) Yun demonstrated that IGF hormones were 32-64 times more abundant in Wilms tumors than in the adjacent uninvolved kidneys. (K. Yun, et al. "Insulin-like growth factor II messenger ribonucleic acid expression in Wilms tumor, nephrogenic rest, and kidney." Department of Pathology, University of Otago Medical School, Dunedin, New Zealand. Lab-Invest., November, 1993, 69(5), pp. 603-615.) Minniti concluded that insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I) acts as an autocrine growth and motility factor in human sarcoma cell lines. Analyses of tumor biopsy specimens demonstrate high levels of IGF RNA expression. All tumor specimens examined expressed the gene for IGF, and this expression was localized to the tumor cells. (C.P. Minniti, et al. "Specific expression of insulin-like growth factor-II in rhabdomyosarcoma tumor cells." Institutes of Health, Bethesda, Maryland. Am-J-Clin-Pathol., February, 1994, 101(2), pp. 198-203.) Developing childhood bone cancers were researched by Kappel who wrote that this type of cancer typically occurs during adolescent growth spurts when growth hormone and insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) may be at their highest lifetime levels. He noted that human bone cancer cell lines are dependent on signaling through IGF-I receptors for survival and proliferation. (C.C. Kappel, et al. "Human osteosarcoma cell lines are dependent on insulin-like growth factor I for in vitro growth." Molecular Oncology Section, National Cancer Institute, Bethesda, Maryland. Cancer-Res., May 15, 1994, 54(10), pp. 2803-2807.) Lippman, as early as 1991, had implicated IGF-I as being critically involved in the aberrant growth of human breast cancer cells. (M. Lippman. "Growth factors, receptors and breast cancers." (IGF-I and related growth factors are critically involved in aberrant growth of human breast cancer cells.) J. Natl. Inst. Health Res., 1991, 3, pp. 59-62.) Lee observed the processing of insulin-like growth factor by human breast tissue and indicated that estrogen regulation of IGF-I in breast cancer cells would support the hypothesis that IGF-I has a regulatory function in breast cancer. (A.V. Lee, et al. "Processing of insulin-like growth factor-II (IGF-II) by human breast cancer cells." Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Breast Biology Group, School of Biological Sciences, University of Surrey, Guildford, UK. Mol-Cell- Endocrinol., March, 99(2), pp. 211-220.) Chen noted that IGFs are potent growth factors for cellular proliferation in the human breast carcinoma cell line. (J.C. Chen, et al. "Insulin-like growth factor-binding protein enhancement of insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I)-mediated DNA synthesis and IGF-I binding in human breast carcinoma cell line." Department of Medicine, University of Maryland School of Medicine, Baltimore, Maryland. J-Cell-Physiol., January, 1994, 158(1), pp. 69-78.) Figueroa confirmed that insulin-like growth factors (IGFs) are key factors for breast cancer growth. (J.A. Figueroa, et al. "Recombinant insulin-like growth factor binding protein-1 inhibits IGF-I serum, and estrogen-dependent growth of MCF-7 human breast cancer cells." Department of Medicine, University of Texas Health Science Center, San Antonio, Texas. J-Cell-Physiol., November, 1993, 157(2), pp. 229- 236.) Li treated breast cancer cells with IGF-I and observed a 10-fold increase in RNA levels of cancer cells and concluded that IGF-I appears to be an important step in cellular proliferation. (X.S. Li, et al. "Retinoic acid inhibition of insulin-like growth factor I stimulation of c-fos mRNA levels in breast carcinoma cell lines." Department of Medicine, University of Maryland School of Medicine, Baltimore, Maryland. Exp-Cell-Res., March, 1994, 211(1), pp. 68-73.) Krasnick furnishes another clue to this puzzle by revealing that IGF-I plays a role in the regulation of human ovarian cancer. His data suggest that IGF-I and estrogen interact in a synergistic manner and regulate the growth of cancer. (A. Krasnick, et al. "Insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF) and IGF-binding protein-2 are increased in cyst fluids of epithelial ovarian cancer." Institute of Endocrinolgy, Chaim Sheba Medical Center, Tel-Hashomer, Israel. J-Clin-Endocrinol-Metab, February, 1994, 78(2).) Musgrove states that growth factors play a major role in human breast cancer cell growth. (E.A. Musgrove, et al. "Acute effects of growth factors on T-47D breast cancer cell cycle progression." Cancer Biology Division, Garvan Institute for Medical Research, St. Vincent's Hospital, Darlinghurst, NSW, Australia. Eur-J-Cancer, 29A (16), 1993, pp. 2273-2279.) THE MISSING LINK On November 8, 1994, the New York Times published a story which revealed two very critical facts. (Gina Kolata, New York Times, Science Section, Nov. 8, 1994, p. C1.) Although only 1 percent of women between the ages of 40 and 50 are diagnosed with breast cancer, autopsy studies reveal that 39 percent of women in that age group have breast cancer. Although only 1 percent of men between the ages of 60 and 70 are clinically diagnosed with prostate cancer, 46 percent actually have prostate gland tumors. Gina Kolata. "New ability Find Earliest Cancers: A Mixed Blessing?" SUMMARY IGF-I is the key factor in cancer's growth in the human body. IGF-I is identical between humans and cows. Milk is a hormonal delivery system and IGF-I is orally active, surviving digestive processes. If you believe that breastfeeding mothers deliver substances to their infants, you then should understand that milk is a hormonal delivery system. Lactoferins, immunoglobulins and protein hormones survive digestion and exert powerful growth effects. Cancer is very common, but usually controlled by the human body. Cancerous tumors are the ones that have somehow thrown off the usually tight genetic controls on unwanted growth.

"One hormone you naturally produce is the key factor in every cancer" Umm, Is it too much of a tautology if I mention that growth hormone is a key factor in the growth of ALL cells.

Get thee back to medical school, doc. It's not Growth hormone, a protein containing 191 amino acids. It's insulin-like growth factor, a peptide containing 70 amino acids. Got MILK? Got this powerful growth hormone.

"Milk contains insulin-like growth factor". If it’s anything like insulin then its broken down in the stomach. That is why so many diabetics need insulin administered intravenously.

When encapsulated in a micronized liposome, insulin can be made to be orally active. You've got to keep up with the research, doc.

Homogenization micronizes liposomes (makes fat molecules smaller) and allows them to bypass the hypothetical construct known as gut closure.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: DR Harris
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Adelaide, Australia
Time: 1999-04-20 06:51:55
Comments:

Part 2

Next on your "Not-So Perfect Food" flyer you say that the average American consumes 161 mg of cholesterol. I’ll accept that this figure may be true but again do you realise that cholesterol is an important chemical in human cellular structure. The figure is meaningless unless you state the recommended daily allowance. You then go on to say that it is equivalent to eating "53 rashers of bacon a day" or "19,345 rashers a year" or "1 million up to the age of 52". This is what makes the site sensationalist and treats the more sensible of your web surfers as stupid. We can do the maths! You don’t need to convert this into the biggest, scariest numbers.

Dear Dr. Harris,

The numbers are very real and very scarey. Add up the combined totals of cholesterol in cheese, ice cream, milk, sour cream, creamed cheese, sherbet, etc. and the result is 161 mgs. of cholesterol. A medium slice of Armour bacon (an American brand) contains 3 mgs. of cholesterol.

There is absolutely no daily requirement for dietary sludge. We have no need to eat dangerous animal fats or animal cholesterol. What kind of doctor did you say you are?

Next up: "Milk is loaded with protein." Well, it seems like there are SOME facts on this site. But hang on… "80% is casein used to glue furniture together". This reminds me of the 9 year old who managed to convince nearly all of his class mates to sign a petition to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide. This substance is a major industrial solvent, constituent of acid rain and has been found in all cancer tumours. It is also known as H20 or water. The point I’m making is that you represent facts in a misleading way. Just because its in glue doesn’t mean it’s harmful to humans. Hey! Glue manufacturers don’t derive the casein from cows milk do they?

As a matter of fact, that is exactly where they get it, doc. You ask a rhetorical question and you are way off base. Check your facts. Most doctors ignore the histamines produced as a reaction to CASEIN. Histamines result in mucus. One does not need an extra gallon of mucus in his or her body. This is why I challenge Americans to give up milk and dairy products for just five days. On day six, eat just one slice of pizza. It takes twelve to fifteen hours to gauge the full response. My guarantee? Phlegm and sludge.

"Dr. Spock describes casein as the primary cause of congestion…". Now that’s a reference I wish I could see. I was under the impression that the body produces mucus from glands. I didn’t realise there is a tube running from the stomach to the nasal cavity for the drainage of milk proteins. What’s it called? Was it said in this context?: "casein, due to the consumption of milk, is the primary cause…" I think probably not!

Your final comments are not worth responding to, doc. Like many of your colleagues, you rarely take classes in nutrition in medical school. Glands? Ever hear of the antibody/ antigen reaction? Your lungs, tracheal broncheal tree, kidneys, thymus and pancreas all fill with mucus.

Perhaps you missed the autopsy of FLO JO, an American Olympic athlete. I'd be interested in your second opinion of her death. Please pay careful attention to the PETECHIAL marks on her neck. As she gasped for breath, choking on her body fluids, she grabbed her own neck, futily trying to breathe.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: DR Harris
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Adelaide, Australia
Time: 1999-04-20 06:44:54
Comments: Due to the length of my post I will submit it in a number of parts. Part 1:

I am an Australian citizen who has little knowledge of diet and nutrition but I do know what science is. You maintain that your site is scientific and full of many scientific facts. There may well be many scientific facts in it but on the whole I believe it is very sensationalised and misrepresents facts. It is badly referenced, so if I wanted to investigate your claims further it would be very difficult. I have neither the time nor the desire to seek out your references nor counter references, so I will address the main claims on your site as they stand.

Dear Dr. Harris,

If you have a specific comment about any dairy issue, I have listed all 336 references, most from peer-reviewed scientific journal articles.

You can find the entire third chapter of my book on the NOTMILK site. The chapter contains some very technical and scientific text.

I also write a weekly column and most contain scientific references. There are over forty such columns which should keep you very busy. If that doesn't satisfy you, I now write a daily mini-column.

You state that according to the USDA 40% of the food consumed by Americans is dairy produce. 40% is certainly lop-sided, but is it true. I’m wondering what the Department of Agriculture would know about the average food consumption of individuals. I’m from Australia and I imagine that Australian/American diets don’t differ too much but by no stretch of the imagination does the average Australian diet contain 40% dairy. My guess is that you have obtained industry data for total non-export raw dairy produce (i.e. litres of milk out of the cow) and compared it to other foods according to produce mass. You do realise that the most abundant compound in milk is water, don’t you? And when products such as cheese are made most of the water is removed. If you were to incorporate this into the calculation you would probably get a less shocking figure. Why not obtain data on the actual amount of dairy eaten by people? That shouldn’t be too hard!

My data comes from the United States Department of Agriculture. Again, those references are cited, should you take the time to look for them. You indicated in your first paragraph that you have "neither the time, nor the desire" to seek out my references. What then is the point?

The average American ate 27.5 pounds of cheese last year. It takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. We eat tomatoes and celery too. They are primarily water too. Do you suggest that we calculate only the dry matter of the foods we eat? Cheese is concentrated fat, cholesterol and hormones.

Accepting the 40% figure as being true, it suggests that the average American is eating too much dairy NOT that milk is BAD for humans.

I do not get it, doc. Would you have humans eat human breast milk as adults? How about dog milk? After all, dingos are man's best friends. Pig milk? Kangaroo milk? Instinctively we know that these body fluids were developed for the young of each specific species. Your medical training (I assume that you're a medical doctor) allows you to accept such a lack of logic?

Just curious...why are medical doctors so lacking in nutritional knowledge?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: JW
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Arlington, Virginia
Time: 1999-04-20 05:16:29
Comments: I'm extremely allergic to milk. Can't deal with it in ANY form. When I was younger, I had ear infections quite often. My mother never fed me breast milk because she was afraid I would be allergic. Well...I drank milk when I was weaned, and I was fine. Until sixth grade. That's when I started having problems. I'm in ninth grade now, and only figured out last summer that I'm allergic to milk. Since then, the allergy has become significantly worse! It's unbelievable; I can't even have products with whey in them. NOTHING with milk! Not only that, but so many restaurants cook things in butter that I can't eat when I go out with my friends. And I'm sick so often that I'm scared to go anywhere with my friends, because I don't want to have to excuse myself to be sick. It's embarassing, and I'm sure it's causing some sort of mental disorder...I love cheese, ice cream, and especially pizza. I don't care what it's made of...just as long as I don't get sick. Lactaid's don't work. The package limits me to two, but two pills don't have any effect at all. Right now my largest problem is cooking for myself. I love to cook but some recipes call for milk. That in itself is no problem...but I quote from the Joy of Cooking, under "Key Lime Pie"..."Stir until thickened, a result of the reaction of the milk with the citrus juice." Will this recipe still work with rice dream? Or is there something else I should use? Please reply via email. :) Thanks, -JW

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT,

Dear JW,

In the privacy of their own toilets, all humans suffer the ill effects of milk and dairy products. While it may not be a popular subject of discussion, this is about becomming a "REGULAR GUY!"

Forget what others think and laugh yourself to good health.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sue M. yet again
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Toronto
Time: 1999-04-18 09:14:01
Comments: My friend's 15 yr old has juvenile onset diabetes. Will eliminating dairy totally improve/turn around her symptoms?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I say YES!

Is it worth six months of completely abstaining from all milk and dairy products to find the cure? For more information, and real SCIENCE have your friend read the following:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George,B.C.
Time: 1999-04-16 23:27:57
Comments: I don't wish to debate the morality of Dr. Kevorkian's activities but it would be very interesting to know if he ever had to attend a person whose diet was derived exclusively from plants. I bet not.

Name: Neali De Santis Staley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ft.Myers, FL
Time: 1999-04-16 20:38:06
Comments: I gave up all dairy when cheese began to give me migraine headaches, and my breastfed daughter showed signs of allergies to dairy when I would consume it. Since I stopped all dairy, after 23 years of serious milk intake, I lost 23 lbs in two weeks and haven't had a migraine yet. My daughter also has no allergy symptoms either. My whole family has now also cut it out, and we all feel great!!

Name: Jennifer Leah Bennett
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Dalton, Georgia
Time: 1999-04-16 06:27:10
Comments: mr. cohen, i just sent you a message a few minutes ago, but forgot to include one last question: where can we find "notmilk" t-shirts and other paraphrenalia? a t-shirt with a cow being poked in the butt with a big syringe that says "casein" or "bovine" in big letters on the side of it, held by a dairy farmer with money falling out of his pockets is sure to create interesting conversations. a listing underneath the cow with the medical effects of milk and other dairy products may create a stir. are you ready for that yet? need anymore ideas? just let me know. i live for this stuff.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jennifer,

The ANTIDAIRY Coalition has t-shirts to sell. They are a BARGAIN at only $6 per shirt plus shipping and handling. They also discount my book (MILK: The Deadly Poison) and the book on tape (two cassettes-180 minutes).

Call the NOTMILK hotline:

1-888-NOT-MILK (668-6455)

I have a very special deal for you. Do the class experiment that I described in you previous letter (guestbook entry #1028) and I will send everybody in your class a free t-shirt!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jennifer Leah Bennett
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Dalton, Georgia
Time: 1999-04-16 06:13:50
Comments: After an intense discussion about motive, political gain, and conspiracy in the government concerning environmental issues, our environmental biology professor suggested we come to your web-site and do some of our own research. after reading about casein, the additive in milk, i typed in "casein" under yahoo and found a company named, "the natural adhesive company". the company, founded in the united kingdom, and who recently set up it's headquarters in russia, is the world's largest casein manufacturer and is responsible for over 14% of the casein that is exported, their newest target, being north america. their web-site has a list of food items containing casein, including, milk "replacements", children's formulas and food, puddings, cereals, etc. the web-site has no information on research done to find out the exact effects of casein on the human body, nor is there any other information about specific brands that use casein in their production process. this does not suprise me, for a robber does not call his victims before he shows up at their home in the middle of the night. i would like to know how to judge a product, and how to know, based on the list of ingredients, if a specific product contains casein. can you help me? i am starting to do research for med-school, which is quite a few miles away, but this topic fascinates me, and i am seriously considering choosing this as my topic of research before entering med-school to study environmental medicine. any assistance you can give me will be greatly appreciated and helpful. jennifer bennett

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jennifer,

GOOD FOR YOU!

Casein is an adhesive. It's the glue used to hold a label to a bottle of beer. Try scraping that label off. It's the glue used to make many plastics. Check out a piece of cooked mozzerella...whatever is left over in a pizza box. It gets pretty hard. Imagine that in your stomach. Sometimes it's still there after fifteen hours and you produce histamines to its presense. Your body then manufactures copious amounts of mucus.

Do an experiment. Have your class eat no dairy for just five days. Begin on Friday. On Wednesday, have a class pizza party. Keep careful notes about how you feel during the five days in which you eat no dairy products. Then observe the next twenty-four hours. I will publish the results!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Christine Jackson
Website: Cleo's Family Quarters
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Connecticut, USA
Time: 1999-04-16 01:41:58
Comments: My daughter is ALWAYS sick with upper respiratory symptoms and days later w/very high fevers, the last time she was in the hospital with over 106 degree temp, and all the testing they did on her came back negative so once again, they chalked it up to a viral infection. My concern is that we could be missing something so simple like some type of allergy or food allergy that is making her sick, breaking down her immune system therefore causing high fevers. I'm not saying an allergy is directly responsible for the fever but I do believe it can all be connected somehow. Please, the Doctors think an elimination diet for food allergy is unneccessary, but I'm starting w/dairy anyway for my own peace of mind. Ashley's pediatrician says there is no skin tests for milk allergy, her ear nose & throat Dr wants me to keep a log of the food & symptoms but only after I got so angry at them for not listening to me. Am I paranoid or does anyone else think a 2 & 1/2 yr old getting very sick every 10 days or so is not right? If anyone has any info for me please e-mail, thanx.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Christine,

Bacteria love warm, gooey mucus. Our upper nasal passages provide air conditioning which lowers the temperature to about 96 degrees, a nice place for microorganisms to colonize! Eat CASEIN and one produces mucus. Casein represents eighty percent of milk protein. Your solution? Eliminate all milk and dairy products from your child's diet for the next ten days. Your doctor will call it a miracle, and might take credit for the cure. The bottom line is your child's health. Discover the effects of milk and dairy and give your child a lifetime of good health.

NOTMILK!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: N.E.
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: C.T.
Time: 1999-04-16 00:59:31
Comments: Hello! I am a vegetarian- however, I am striving towards a vegan lifestyle. The only thing I'm having trouble with is finding foods that don't contain milk (dairy products) and eggs. While I don't eat eggs or drink milk by themselves, I can't seem to find some of my favorite foods with suppliments for those things- esp. the dairy, like ice cream for example. Does anyone out there have any suggestions/ recipes/ info. for me? Thank you!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear N.E.,

Begin by reading labels. Foods coming out of factories and boxed for supermarkets contain so many unnatural-sounding chemicals. Buy and prepare the basics: Fruits, Vegetables, Grains and Legumes (beans). Here is one of my favorate ingredient labels:

HOSTESS TWINKIES: "Enriched wheat flour, (niacin, a "B" vitamin), ferrous sulfate (iron), thiamin mononitrate (B1), riboflavin (B2), water, sugar, corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, partially hydrogenated vegetable and/or animal shortening (contains one or more of: canola, corn, cottonseed or soybean oil, beef fat), eggs, dextrose. Contains 2% or less of: modified food starch, whey, leavenings (sodium and pyrophosphate, baking soda, monocalcium phosphate), salt, starch, yellow corn flour, corn syrup solids, emulsifiers mono and diglycerides, lecithin, polysorbate 60, dextrin, calcium caseinate, sodium stearoyl, lactylate, cellulose gum, wheat gluten, natural and artificial flavors, caramel color, artificial colors (yellow 5, red 40), sorbic acid (to retain freshness)."

Regards, The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Milklover
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: America
Time: 1999-04-15 20:20:37
Comments: Go hug a tree, hippie!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Milklover,

Imagine how each of us would relate to others if we started our day by going outside and looking at a tree, enjoying its beauty and then hugging it. Imagine if we transferred that behavior to all creatures, including those people who we normally take for granted.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Diane Whiteley
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Perth, Western Australia
Time: 1999-04-15 18:00:48
Comments: I was overjoyed to hear about your homepage. I buy fresh goat milk from a local farmer for my son who has just turned 2. He is starting to wean himself now, but has been drinking goat milk for the past 15 months. He has never had a cold nor has he been sick. I only feed him on organically grown fruit and veges and he has no sugar. I would never dream of giving him cow's milk products. What is your opinion on goat milk. I'd be interested to hear it.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Diane,

I will go to the bottom line first: Goat's milk is a perfect food for baby goats.

CASEIN (milk protein) causes mucus. Proportions of casein in Goat's milk are equal to proportions of casein in human breast milk. Cow's milk contains triple the amount of casein as cow and human milk.

Each formula contains lactoferrins and immunoglobulins, proteins and hormones reserved for the young of that species. We produce 100 different antibodies to bovine proteins. Our body reacts to these foreign antigen-like "invaders."

Goat's milk must certainly contain its own antigens. It may be delicious, but there is no nutritional need for humans to drink body fluids from other animals.

Robert Cohen


Name: susanne Grundler
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: FORT LAUDERDALE
Time: 1999-04-15 09:15:25
Comments: I READ YOUR PAGE WITH YOUR NEGATIVE OPINION ABOUT MILK. I LIVE IN THE STATES SINCE 8 YEARS. WHAT SURPRISES ME EVERY DAY IS HOW EXTREME PEOPLE GET ON EVERYTHING. PERPHAPS (!) MILK IS NOT A GOOD NUTRITION FOR ADULTS. WHAT ABOUT THE GROWING CHILDREN ? HOW DO YOU THINK TO REPLACE MILK FOR THE CHILDREN ? IN MY OPINION THE EFFECT THAT MILK HAS ON HEALTH IS VERY DIFFERENT FOR CHILDREN. MILK IS NECESSARY FOR NORMAL GROWTH. OR CAN ANYBODY TELL ME HOW TO REPLACE IT ? THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO BELIEVE ABOUT EVERYTHING THEY READ OR HEAR. LIKE: FAT IS NOT GOOD FOR YOUR HEALTH ! FOR WHO'S HEALTH ? A 60 YEAR OLD MAN WITH HIGH CHOLESTEROL OR A 1 YEAR OLD INFANT? AND: I THINK THAT PEOPLE EVEN A 1000 YEARS AGO DRANK MILK. EVEN WITHOUT A REFRIGERATOR. IT KEEPS FRESH INSIDE THE COW! THEY PROBABLY DRANK IT RIGHT AWAY OR COOKED IT OR DRANK IT LIKE "SOUR MILK". YOU SHOULD THINK TWICE BEFORE MAKING A STATEMENT LIKE : MILK IS NOT GOOD FOR YOUR HEALTH. HOW MANY KIDS DON'T GET MILK ANYMORE, BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS READ YOUR ARTICLE. YOU OVERSEE THE CONSEQUENCES ?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Suzanne,

Will and Ariel Durant wrote (AGE OF CIVILIZATION) that the average cow only produced one quart of milk per day in the 13th century. When Pilgrims came to America they needed the fat from milk which they churned into butter. Two hours of hard churning yielded 1/4 stick of butter which was stored underground for the winter.

Dr. Frank Oski (once chief of Pediatrics at Johns Hopkins hospital) cited milk as the reasaon that half of all children have allergies. He noted that parents rarely if ever make the connection.

Cow's milk is inappropriate for humans. Same for pig's milk and dog's milk. Why would anybody drink body fluids from another species of animal in the name of good health? We are smart enough not to drink human breast milk after weaning. Instinctively we know that ALL milk contains hormones.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Marie-France McCluskey
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-04-14 21:57:22
Comments: I started reading Mr. Cohen's book yesterday and was truly amazed! I also read a book called "Made in U.S.A." about beef production and mad cow disease, which led me to stop eating meet. Now, I won't use milk! I'll also pay more attention to food labels... Being French, it'll be hard for me to stop eating cheese, but I am convinced it is worth it! :o) I came here 3 years ago, and after a year, I began suffering from various allergies... I became more and more concerned about the food and eating habits here, and I'm glad (and grossed out!) to finaly find answers... Thank you !

Name: Patrick
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington, D.C.
Time: 1999-04-14 03:20:25
Comments: I heard Mr. Cohen on a local radio talk-show. After listening to that show and reading the information on at his websites, I was just amazed. I decided to do something. What I decided to do was to download Mr. Cohen's flyer: "MILK--NATURE'S NOT-SO PERFECT FOOD". I have contacted each public school in Washington, D.C. and faxed that flyer to them. Also, I plan to contact people from other areas of the country to encourage them to visit Mr. Cohen's websites and fax this flyer to every public school in their area, as well. And I carry copies of Mr. Cohen's flyers with me, wherever I go, and distribute them. Whether you believe what Mr. Cohen is saying about dairy products or you don't believe, I think as many people should be informed of this information and similar information as possible. Isn't it a shame that so many of our celebrities will advertise themselves for the dairy industry by wearing those silly milk mustaches? I wonder if any of them have read any of this literature at all. Personally, I believe everything Mr. Cohen is saying here. And another thing I have decided to do is to change my eating habits considerably. Thank you very much Mr. Robert Cohen for all of your efforts and the information you have provided.

Name: MARK SCHMALHOFER
Website:
Referred by: Lycos
From: DELAWARE
Time: 1999-04-14 00:34:54
Comments: This is a very informative site. I promptly gave up milk after visiting. I can certainly understand why dairy farmers would defend milk. Milk is their bread and butter. What would they do if milk stopped selling. They have bills just like everyone else. I am not defending them but I can understand why they won't say anything negative about it. Keep up the great work, bye!

Name: Thomas Bakehorn
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-04-14 00:10:30
Comments: Just wanted to share some thoughts on my perspective of milk for your data base. I have been advocating "don't drink your milk" for the past 25 years to my patients, friends, or anyone who would listen to scientific fact: 1. The immunoglobulin proteins of the cow's immune system cross the utter via milk and enter the human body directly through the gut via the lymphatic system causing serious damage to our immune systems. 2. Calcium/Phosphorus ratio of mother's milk is 2:1 in cows milk its 1:2, hyperphosphotemia in humans causes nerve damage, weaken muscles, and a host of biochemical problems. 3. Antibiotic residues from excessive dosing of cows, they stand in feed lots in their own urine & feces so disease among cows is rampant, cross over into the milk. The FDA has recalled milk for antibiotic contamination so many times we have lost count. These antibiotics damage the sensitive stem cells of our bone morrow,(especially children), causing severe immunological disorders in kids and adults. 4. Bovine growth hormones have not been tested for safety, and like all hormones damage our livers and cause serious biochemical activities. In young girls this causes pre-mature puberty, and early menstration is linked to many female cancers. 5. We cannot digest casinate proteins even if we drank battery acid with them. These undigested protiens are however digested by bacteria in our guts causing many serious bowel problems and bacterial byproducts, ie.. endo & neurotoxins that cause so many problems this computer file is not large enough to list them all. 6. Lactose is poorly digested by all humans, but bacteria are effecient at converting lactose to galactose. Galactosemia in infants causes brain damage and death. Galactosemia in adults has possible links to so many disease states it boggles the mind... 7. Humans are the only animal species that tries to drink another species milk... cows and humans are not even closely related genetically.. go figure this one out!!! 8. Pasturization destroys all the good vitamins and essential fatty acids... The additional fact that the dairy counsel spends 4.5 million per day on advertising a government subsidized product should tell the average person that something may be wrong with this picture. Thanks for spreading the news about "don't drink that milk".... thomas bakehorn, phd biochemical nutritionist

Name: Clem Kadidelhopper
Website: CLEM'S HOT MONEY MAKING TIPS $$$
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-04-13 17:59:06
Comments: I was recently reading a very old book and in it a woman stated that her young son had died from "a milk worm infecting his brain" which she said was known as "bovine meningitis". Heard of this? Please elaborate!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Clem,

In Red Skelton's time (the one and only Klem Kadiddlehopper) the world did not know of such things. Imagine, getting encephalitis from a cow? Today we humans do just that by eating their flesh and drinking their diseased body fluids. The disease is called Cruetzfeld-Jacob Disease (CJD-named after two of Dr. Alzheimer's associates).

CJD has another name: Bovine spongioform encephalitis in which the brain turns into a sponge. In England, it's called mad cow disease and it's no laughing matter.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Justin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Texas
Time: 1999-04-13 06:10:33
Comments: Ok people, don't you think this site is a waste of time? Nothing is wrong with milk. People have been drinking it for thousands of years. Try telling an Amish person that milk is bad for you. I'm eating some chocolate righ now and drinking a big glass of milk. Tell me this, what else can you drink that goes with chocolate? That's what I thought, you can't think of anything because milk is the only thing. I suppose you're going to tell me that chocolate is bad for me too. Quit trying to scare people. If anyone has something to say to me please email me. I don't plan on wasting my time here again.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Justin,

It's nice to get a visit from the Lone Star State where temperatures sometimes reach 110 in the shade.

Do you really believe that we've been drinking milk for thousands of years? Imagine how good milk smells when it is left out in 80 degree heat for one hour.

We haven't had refrigerators for thousands of years, Justin! Keep believing everything the dairy industry propaganda feeds you and you'll end up like the average American...clogged arteries from all of that yummy fat and cholesterol in your ice cream and cheese.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: GQ
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Atlanta
Time: 1999-04-13 05:16:29
Comments: Hi. Thank you for your continuing committedness to this issue, and for this website. It is very informative. I wanted to respond to a letter from JenniferK in Ontario, Canada. Indeed, it is very challenging in this culture to do the right thing dietetically, and figure out what in the world to EAT!, as she put it. Please don't be offended by my opinion that while your response was well thought out, poetic, and showed a great amount of openess to different kinds of foods, I got the sense from it that you are a person who loves to cook, and "lives to eat", as half of the old expression goes. I, as one of those people who "eats to live", wanted to offer a somewhat different slant of encouragement to Jennifer. I would love to be one of those people who loves to cook, but, alas, I'm not. I like food to be quick, easy, and have little patience for preparation. While I agree and sing along with you your rhapsodic praise to FOOD, I have found that time in the kitchen for me is best if brief. SO, many kinds of culturally diverse, more healthy types of cooking leave me cold. BUT... this is what I want to tell Jennifer (and the rest of you like me): Find a good vegetarian/health food grocery store. Resist the cultural programming that will make you afraid that you will sprout daisies from your ears, and you'll break into a chorus of "Age of Aquarius" the minute you walk in. The shelves will be filled with, well, lots of weird stuff. You'll be unsure. You'll want to bolt. But, try them. And, keep trying the food alternatives that are so available now. Accept that it's gonna be a little strange for a while, but read the lables and ask the salespeople and take it all with a big pinch of sea salt. You'll find things you like, and as you do more research (like visiting this website), you'll learn more about what's in them. There will come a day that will amaze you when: "Hey, I actually kinda LIKE tofu..." or bean sprouts, or rice milk, or whatever else we're told to think is weird. Remember when who knew what kiwi was? This process will force you, but gently, to pay attention to what you put in your body... and ultimately to your body more directly. You'll find that over time you'll eat better things not instead of other things, but because you feel better and want to! All the best to you. - G.

Name: Julie A. Hein
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Redondo Beach, CA
Time: 1999-04-13 02:00:12
Comments: My husband has been plagued with allergies his entire life and is a mucus factory. He is allergic to almost everything - the running family joke is: "He is allergic to air". He loves dairy in all forms; coffee creamer, milk, cheese, cream cheese, sour cream, and especially ice cream. After discovering Mr. Cohen's book, we decided to eliminate all dairy from our diet... just to see. About the third day, we realized that he no longer needed to clear his sinuses each morning. After one week, I have started wearing perfume again and I can bring fresh flowers into the house. The cat doesn't bother him. We firmly believe that milk, and dairy products in general, contributed (or are even totally responsible) to his sinus membranes being irritated; therefore making any dust, pollen, etc. overly irritating to him. We're not saying dairy wasn't hard to give up - it was!, but the benefits have made it worth it!!

Name: angie
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: Utah
Time: 1999-04-12 21:59:40
Comments: I was interested on your opinion of Rice Dream as a milk substitute?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Angie,

As a substitute for what?

There is no nutritional need for cow's milk for humans. Rice milk is NOT a substitute for human breast milk for nursing infants and should never be used as such.

However, rice milk is delicious on cereal and may be substituted in recipes calling for milk.

You can buy RICE DREAM or make your own rice milk. Here is an inexpensive recipe for one quart.

In our family I eat brown rice and my wife and kids eat white rice. Brown rice is more nutritious, but most people eat white rice so we start with two cups of white rice and ten cups of water.

Bring the water to a boil and add the rice, cooking for 15 minutes until the grains of rice are al dente. Strain the rice and eat it for dinner, reserve the liquid. Add one teaspoon of vanilla and sweetener (NOT ASPARTAME) to taste. Refrigerate and serve on your cereal the next morning.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Stewartsville, MO
Time: 1999-04-12 10:46:57
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I would like to address the people who keep writing in and stating that we are the only species on earth that drink milk from other species, and after infancy: Have you never had a cat or dog? Or been to the zoo, or watched the Discovery Channel? Or visited a farm, gone camping? Offer an adult bear milk, see if it turns up it's nose. I went to an animal pharmaceutical store yesterday and saw shelf-stable cartons of milk for cats! And the price, well, I'm in the wrong business feeding people. Cats and humans are not the same species, and cats also drink cows milk, if they can get it. Every evening I set out a huge pan of milk for all my little furry friends. You should see the chickens come running - and they don't feed milk to their young, they don't produce milk for their young - they aren't furry either. It's dark when I start milking in the mornings, and lately when I turn on the lights I have been disturbing a big fat opossum sipping his (or her) breakfast. Last time I had biology class, opossums did not belong to the bovine species. The arguement you are using is not valid - other species of animals DO drink milk as infants and beyond - if they can get it. I imagine that pigs milk would be very good for us - their diet is similar to ours, and so is their digestive tract. But to my knowledge no one has invented a pig milking machine. If milk and other dairy products don't agree with you, don't drink it - but please don't try to turn cats, dogs, bears or chickens into vegatarians. And once again - cows don't have breasts, they have udders. Women have breasts - not udders. Breasts and udders are located in different areas of their respective species body. Whew - I'm glad I got that off my breast - I mean chest! Carla

Name: cjaugino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Southern California
Time: 1999-04-12 05:43:24
Comments: Hi-So glad to find you today!! I learned about the animal products and how they cause disease in humans about 6 yrs ago when I visited a wonderful health center here in California. I had pain for over 4 years and my MD told me I must expect that arthritis is a part of growing older and he can give me a pain killer! I also was diagnosed with cysts in my breasts and uterus, and that they would not get better, only worse. Then about that time, I learned about animal products, and eliminated ALL from my life, and have now experienced 6 yrs pain free, and my doctor could not believe that most of my "cysts" were gone! I eat the best fresh veg, fruits, nuts, legumes, seeds & grains I can get, and drink the best water I can get, and try to walk outdoors 1-3 miles a week, get sunshine, and regular rest, and worship GOD. I have felt healthier and stronger than I have in 30 years, and thank GOD for allowing me to learn the truth of HIS dietary laws!! This way of eating is so easy and uncomplicated and less time-consuming!!.......Keep up the good work.

Name: Sue Maltman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Toronto
Time: 1999-04-11 22:28:12
Comments: I just read a comment about pediatician T. Berry Brazelton's designating Dr. Spock's stance on vegetarianism as being lunacy... It seems to me he is on the board of diraectors of La Leche League... (it's been a bunch of years since I belonged, but isn't he one of the doctors who tells mothers quite categorically to avoid any dairy other than mummy's milk for the first year (at least) to avoid respiratory and ear infections...

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sue,

You are correct. The good doctor "B" knows that milk is poison to a child under the age of one. What magic happens to that same infant on his or her first birthday? Dr. Spock recognized that cow's milk was inappropriate for all humans. Would one consider a nursing mother crazy if she pumped enough of her breast milk for her husband and other children? Perhaps she could make some yogurt or cheese out of her lactating body fluid and continue pumping for years.

Most adults instinctively react with disgust at the thought of drinking human breast milk or eating sour cream made from the same. We know that human breast milk contains lactoferrins and immunoglobulins and hormones designed for the nursing infant.

What is it that allows brilliant men like Brazelton and other pediatricians to suspend their logic and reasoning?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Barry Pettifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Vancouver, B.C. Canada
Time: 1999-04-11 16:38:25
Comments: It's nice to see that some people are accepting the simple fact that animal milk is not compatable for human consumption! We have been lied to for a long time, all in the name of profit.

Here are just a few facts that may or may not make people take a second look at consuming animal milk or any dairy products. We are the only species on earth that consumes another species milk and we continue to consume milk past infancy which no other species do. In North America cattle consume more fresh water than all the people do! Also cattle produce more waste product (manure etc.) than all the human population on the north american continent!

You have to look a long way to find an industry that is as senseless and damaging to the well being of the human race than the dairy and meat industry! After spending the better part of my life eating meat and consuming dairy milk and liking it, I know how difficult the habit is to break. Please remember that all the marketing and propaganda being fed to us from industry is simply for profit. For years they have told us that milk makes the body and bones stronger. This is 100% false!!!! In fact people consuming dairy products are at a much higher risk of getting osteoporosis. These are just a few facts the dairy industry certainly does not want the general puplic to know. I could go on and on about the hormones and inhumane practices running rampant through the dairy industry, but let me end on some what of a sour note. With the current practices going on it is not uncommon for the udders to become infected. This udder infection (puss) quite commonly ends up going unnoticed, which is why my kids now refer to cows milk as "UDDER PUSS". Now in an ideal world the pasterization of the milk probably would take care of the puss, but all things being cosidered there is NO positive reasons to consume such an awful product. Any comment please e-mail me at protrend@earthlink.net I am still amazed at how difficult it is for people to accept the truth after being fed such bull for so long (no pun intended)


Name: Milk Milker
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Mass.
Time: 1999-04-10 11:12:26
Comments: Get a life .....breathing causes cancer.........Milk Is GOOD!!!!!

Name: Lindsay Graye
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Brunswick, Canada
Time: 1999-04-10 06:29:44
Comments: Cows are good! Milk is good. I live on a dairy farm so I should know! You guys just (censored) so you can (censored). People who don't drink milk, get sick, and die. I guess that means that all of you people at notmilk.com will die. Too bad for you! Me and my good friend Sara will live happily ever after. (And so will our cows) In closing, I just have to say this one thing. Cows rock!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lindsay,

What happens to the cows on your farm when they no longer produce milk? Do they live happily ever after? I've always wondered whether they use the udder in Burger King's all-beef patties? Do me a favor and ask your daddy and get back to me, okay sweetheart?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Shirin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-04-09 17:18:18
Comments: Is yogurt and boiled milk OK to consume since the heat destroys any bacterias and denatures the hormones added to milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Shirin,

You assume too much. Heat treatment (pasteurization) does NOT deactivate the hormones that are naturally present in milk.

At the first sign of heat many types of bacteria (the rod-shaped ones) form spores (seeds) which re-emerge as bacteria after the milk cools. In addition, the toxic byproducts from the original bacteria are not destroyed, even when milk is cooked at 212 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 minutes. (to completely destroy all toxins, milk must be heated in an autoclave or pressure cooker for thirty minutes at 300 degrees Fahrenheit).

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: me, who else? :)
Website: ADA
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-04-09 01:06:01
Comments: The ADA doesn't seem to agree with you.

-KC

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear KC,

The ADA accepts donations from corporations who sell greasy hamburgers with fries, then promote their own agenda:

EVERYTHING IN MODERATION(except donations to ADA, of course!)

After MONSANTO gained FDA approval for their genetically engineered bovine growth hormone, the ADA accepted a large corporate donation from the chemical giant, then set up a toll-free hotline and staffed it with registered prostitutes...er, ADA dieticians, who extolled the virtues of the hormone which caused cancer in laboratory animals.

They don't agree with me? What a surprise!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Frank Fay
Website: Animals in Print
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NJ
Time: 1999-04-09 00:59:22
Comments: Great page!! It's really good that this is up to inform everyone about milk.

Come visit my page when you get a chance.

Frank


Name: robert daniel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: albany, west australia
Time: 1999-04-07 14:53:01
Comments: Great page!! I gave up milk 4 years ago and haven't been sick since. I'm especially concerned about the link between dairy produce and asthma. I write a weekly column for a newspaper in a heavily dairy influenced area....great way to get unpopular here is to knock the tourist industry or dairy farming! Have done the latter lately I am waiting for the backlash! Your page gives me much ammunition, and the flier is VERY HANDY! Will go through a few reams of paper getting THIS message across. Thanks guys, will be interested in any new studies and results

Name: Joe Mayer
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: London, Ontario, Canada
Time: 1999-04-07 10:14:25
Comments: Mr. Cohen: I saw you speak today at the University of Western Ontario here in Canada. I just wanted to thank you for coming here and raising awarness about this masked poison. I hope all schools across this continent invite you to spread your message. Keep up the fight!!

Name: saraphine
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: tx
Time: 1999-04-07 08:04:04
Comments: i was wondering if dairy products can be attributed to skin problems and respiratory infections. i am seventeen years old and and every year i get respriratory infections which always progess to phneumonia. after reading the information in your website i would like to stop eating dairy products altogether, but i am addicted to ice cream and cheese. any suggestions?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Saraphine,

Why would anybody, in their wildest imagination, compare greasy, oily pus-filled zits to a white bovine fluid containing 750 million pus cells per liter with 59 different bioactive hormones including estrogen, progesterone and testosterone, fat, oil and cholesterol? Beats me!?!?

Respiratory infections? Bacteria just love to colonize and feed in slimy mucus that clogs your upper nasal passages, tracheal-bronchial tree and lungs. Got milk? Got mucus? Got colds? Got pneumonia? Got will power?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cynthia Otiso
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Midwest - land of meat, milk and obesity
Time: 1999-04-07 07:45:55
Comments: Dr. Mr. C., Thanks for your prompt and informative response to my Auto Immune Hepatitis query. Here's a story for you: There was a little girl, who had a little curl.... as a infant was taken off breastmilk by enlightened doctors. The baby was plagued by recurrent ear infections, respiratory illnesses, and gastro-intestinal distress. When she was 5, it was determined that her tonsils were the culprit. A tonsillectomy/ adnoidectomy followed. Surprise, surprise, the symptoms persisted. As a high school student, Sinutab and Sudafed, were her frequent companions, as was Eccedrin when the going got tough. Fast forward to 1998. Now a mother of two, our subject has exhausted her tolerance of the chronic sinusitis, rhinitis, and volcanic mucus flows (the truth is not a pretty sight). So our subject trots off to her primary care (?) physician and pleads for help. Lets try an antibiotic first. OK. Didn't work. Try Claritin. Try Flonase. Try both together. A few of the symptoms were temporarily relieved, but only temporarily. Our subject is frustrated that no DIAGNOSIS is ever made! Send me to an allergist, she demands. The allergist talks alot, listens little, and sends in an irritable nurse to conduct 39 skin tests. Results are inconclusive. Subject asks if any food allergy testing has been tried. No, says allergist. I'd suspect a food allergy if one of your children came in with hives or another rash.... You have Vasomotor Rhinitis and Sinusitus. Take Medrol(prednizone)Bactrim(antibiotic),Rhinocort (steroid spray), Duratuss (?) and use a saline spray. Also, implement anti dustmite measures -- new vacuum cleaner, tear up carpets, get a Hepa filter..... Well guess what? Our subject wised-up and decided to try to find out the CAUSE of her problems instead of taking a bunch of drugs with some rather harsh side-effects. Guess her search led? NOTMILK Webpage!! So, the story takes a new twist and who knows, maybe we'll have a heroine in this story yet. I'll keep you posted. (Just dumped all the milk in the house two days ago to begin the research!) But alas, we should mention that Webster has a word to summarize "the failure of professional person to render proper services through reprehensible ignorance or negligence". It's called MALPRACTICE !!! Caveat emptor and healthy living everyone!

Name: Sue again
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Toronto
Time: 1999-04-06 19:38:02
Comments: Hi Robert Thanks for your reply vis a vis the tubal feeding for my Dad. He concluded a couple of years ago that he was sensitive to dairy, and that it SEEMED to contribute to his mucous problem (Duhhh!!!) so he eliminated it except for cheddar. Now that he is having the probably casein based canned yuck daily in his feeds, I shudder to think what will happen. I ordered your book for him to read. Hopefully it will arrive before his system is totally corrupted by these feeds.... He is a chemical engineer by profession, exposed to all the lovely heavy metals and toxins in the paint industry for forty years.... He also had Lyme disease twice, diagnosing it himself and figuring out the treatment himself (smart docs in Mississauga ON, you say?) He travelled in TUrkey twice and picked up Protozoa and had a violent reaction to an anti-malarial drug. The latter two were cleared from his body by using a radionics instrument, but he has been so unwell I haven't been able to return him to the practitioner. The medical establishment has not given him the care he deserves and paid for. He and I have done the research ourselves... Thanks for your support. I would imagine that he will now take the anti-milk info to his care-givers and order a new regimen. Sue

Name: Kerie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Nevada
Time: 1999-04-06 05:13:23
Comments: ARRGHHH!! I am a mother of two, wonderful, healthy, VEGAN children. I am pulling my hair out over a recent issue with my son, Michael's public school. A few weeks ago, the first grade teachers held a fundraiser by working at McDonalds. The class with the most students in attendance won treats, and popsicles. We went, as I don't want my son to feel excluded, by missing out on all the "fun." (I didn't purchase anything, as I refuse to support McDonalds.) The money raised from this event is to be used for a class fieldtrip to (where else..) THE DAIRY!! This is a double whammy for me, a vegan. Using meat money for milk education, yikes. I presented the Great American Meat Out literature to my son's teacher. She did not encourage her students to participate, but did manage to comment to the class that "Michael's family doesn't eat meat." At this point the whole class just turned and stared at Michael. I don't think this was an effective way to spread the word about meat eating. Anyhow, the Dairy fieldtrip has me very upset. I really wanted to go with him, but I am currently attending school, and am unable to attend. My husband wants to go, but is not allowed to bring Miracle, our three year old daughter. If we could go, we would be able to refute the claims made by the milk industry. I imagine they will offer icy cold milk to students, and Michael may feel left out. I had planned to take a few drink boxes of soy milk so that he could enjoy some creamy beverage as well. Now that I have discovered that it is impossible for someone from our family to attend this function with him, I don't really want him to go. I called the school today, and asked if I could just bring him in after the other students return, and I was told that doing so would register as an absence on the attendance roster. How unfair. It is practically a religious issue for me. I don't imagine that the other side of the milk issue will ever be presented to the children. I don't imagine that the school will be calling an expert like yourself, or a doctor from the PCRM to explain the down side of milk. I am furious with the school for being so closed minded. Isn't public school supposed to celebrate and respect diversity? Thank you for taking the time to read my letter, any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I'm very impressed with your work, and this website. Keep it up!! Respectfully, Kerie, Las Vegas, Nevada

Dear Mom,

There is a truism which applies to first grade boys: They are all made of frogs and snails and puppy-dog tails. That being the case, his bedtime stories the night before the trip to the dairy should be doses of imaginatively told truths about what happens to the mommy cows when they no longer make money for Old MacDonald. Tell your son stories about those baby cows and how they are separated from mom at birth. Encourage him to share the stories with his friends on the bus, particularly the little girls. Little boys love to repeat tales of blood and gore and children have more wisdom than adults give them credit for.

Urge your little activist to tell the truth to his friends. Would you cut the throatof the cow or the baby cow? Mom gives milk meant for the baby but they kill the baby. Is that fair?

School is a place where truth is often changed to fit custom. Can a little boy get in trouble for telling truth?

Here are some songs you can teach him to sing on the bus with his friends:

SUNG TO THE TUNE OF OLD MACDONALD HAD A FARM:

Old MacDonald's cow had a baby calf, E-I-E-I-O. He took the calf and cut her in half, E-I-E-I-O...

How about this one?

Where's the bacon and the ham? Ask Old MacDonald's wife...

She cut the pig in pieces with a very sharp knife!

How can a child get in trouble for telling the truth? Imagine the kids singing these songs?

Where did your mommys get their rabbit coats?

You take the cute bunnies, and cut their little throats!

Imagine the kiids teaching the parents and teachers a thing or two?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michael
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: tampa
Time: 1999-04-05 06:43:52
Comments: Hi Robert, I was wondering if Casein is only found in cow's milk? Is it found in human mother's milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Michael,

Congratulations! You've just come up with another great reason for adults NOT to drink human breast milk.

Cow's milk contains triple the amount of casein as does human breast milk.

When milk is the only substance in the belly, casein helps to protect the hormones, lactoferrins and immunoglobulins so contained. When milk is combined with other foods such as broccoli, chocolate brownies and filet mignon (not nature's plan), casein creates histamines, antigens, mucus...and an udder mess. That all happens inside the body. On the way out...it's even worse news. We're talking sludge, Michael.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: JenniferK
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ontario, Canada
Time: 1999-04-04 21:16:39
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, Thank you so much for your response yesterday re:Accolade (zafirlukast). I think that I heard what I needed to hear, and I am not going to continue taking the medication. The only reason I even WENT to the doctor (who is notorious for handing out pills like candy) was for a reference to a 2nd allergist, and a nutritionist. He scoffed at the idea of my seeing the nutritionist, and instead handed me the pills, which I argued with him about needing! Nuts!

My question is, after one year of being milk-free, I am so bored wtih food. I'm sick of eating chicken and fruit. I don't particularly like vegetables, but I am committed to eating more of them... what else is there? I have 3 no-milk cookbooks, but I am very curious to know what you, and everyone else who avoids milk, EATS!! I was eating things like liverwurst, tuna, and lunch meat, which I've since learned all contain casein... now what? Thank you so much for your time. I have learned SO much from this website, you have been the single biggest help to me in the last year and a half! Sincerely, Jennifer K

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jennifer,

Eating is one of the great joys of my life. Food's various essences and bouquets can be extremely satisfying. Variety of tastes and textures make dining experiences a pleasure.

When I was a meat eater, each meal had to include red meat. Without beef, dinner was not very satisfying. When I gave up dairy products I wondered what I would eat. My fridge was stocked with fine cheeses and yogurt. I cooked with butter and my freezer contained the best ice creams. I was a pizzaholic and no chicken dish was complete unless it was either stuffed with or topped with a gooey cheese. Cordon Bleu, pizziaola, Parmesian...What would I do when I gave up milk and dairy?

I gave up red meat next and ate lots of chicken. Then I gave up chicken and ate fish and seafood. Finally, the fish went...that's when I discovered food!

When we go into classic restaurants, what makes them great are the side dishes.

Anybody can broil a steak or a trout. How about those garlic mashed potatoes or sauteed spinach in olive oil? Polenta with portabella mushrooms and escarole salads... that is what makes restaurants great and dining experiences memorable.

Go into bakeries and discover great breads. Go to ethnic Greek or Italian marikets and discover incredible olives. Try the dozens of different fermented soybean dishes in oriental markets or the subtle and aromatic pastes and flavorings found in Middle Eastern or Indian markets.

I have replaced the beautiful garnishes and side orders and made these flourishes the new entrees in my life.

A simple dish of buckwheat, prepared with sauteed red onions served with a mixed green salad is an incredible treat. Instad of salt, I use a bit of miso which seems to last forever in my refrigerator. The black paste of fermented soybeans and barley adds a meaty-taste to any meal.

Each day my entire family eats pasta; usually for breakfast. Rather than cook with red marinara suace, we combine fermented Chinese black beans with a plant-based oyster sauce and naturally fermented soy sauce (shoyu).

I just finished making a gallon of cole slaw...guaranteed to last about two days. It makes an excellent salad and snack.

Here is the recipe. I make the dressing first. Depending on the here are the ingredients for one gallon of salad:

One cup of brown sugar, one-quarter cup of sea salt, one-eighth cup of pepper (preferably freshly ground). Juice of two freshly squeezed lemons, one-half cup of red-wine vinegar, one half cup of Balsamic vinegar, one half cup of safflower or sunflower oil (these two oils contain mono-unsaturated fat which lowers the levels of LDL (the bad cholesterol) while raises the levels of HDL (the good cholesterol).

Then add the salad. I used a small red cabbage, sliced thin, and a small green cabbage. I grated four carrots and finely diced a red and yellow pepper and about a cup of parsley. This salad is heaven.

As you give up the meat and animal proteins, you appreciate the tastes of foods. As a meat eater, I once used my fork as a shovel, rarely appreciating anything but the meat.

Experiment and savor the bounty of nature's harvest.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: cotiso
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: originally a NYer, now in Michigan
Time: 1999-04-04 13:13:27
Comments: Gee, it's a shame my mother didn't have access to this info about 20yrs. ago.... Question: Any idea if there is a connection between milk/food allergies (and intollerances) and auto-immune hepatitis? I'm having a tough time getting info. on this disease and wholistic approaches toward treating it. It's not at all like Hep A,B,C,E,G etc. I'd greatly appreciate any help you non-udder-suckers can offer....

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cotiso,

You ask a difficult question for which science has no definitive answer, just clues. Is milk the mechanism? Let's explore the possibility.

Seventy percent of those who get this autoimmune disease are women, according to the American Liver Foundation (1-800-223-0179). Autoimmune hepatitis is a condition in which an individual's own immune systems attacks the liver, causing liver cell death. ALL humans produce antibodies to bovine proteins which are seen by the body as "invaders."

However, ALL people do not get autoimmune hepatitis, just as ALL people do not get diabetes, another autoimmune disease. One must also have cells and receptor sites that react to such antigens.

In the case of Type-I diabetes, Insulin-producing Beta cells in the pancreas resemble "invading bovine proteins." When our immune system creates an antibody, this defensive mechanism then turns upon its own Beta cells and destroys them. Do liver cells do the same in some individuals? That would be an appropriate line of research. To my knowledge, no such studies have been performed.

Since more people are affected with diabetes than autoimmune hepatitis, more diabetes studies are funded and performed.

I recently wrote a column reviewing the diabetes studies:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html

It is an interesting coincidence that the dairy industry target audience has historically been women. It is also a coincidence that seventy percent of those who get this disease are women, and that the disease most often strikes those in adolescence or young adulthood. "Drink Milk and Prevent Osteoporosis" is one of the dairy industry lies which induces young women to drink milk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jennifer K
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ontario, Canada
Time: 1999-04-04 01:10:15
Comments: Dear NotMilkMan, I would like to know what your opinion is on the drug "Accolate" (zafirlukast) , or if you have heard anything about it. I have received a sample from my GP, but am wary. The information flyer says it is a "leukotriene receptor antagonist", and it is used to prevent and control asthma symptoms. My asthma is milk-induced. While I have no desire whatsoever to EVER drink milk again, or consume cheese or most products made with milk, I am intrigued by the thought that this medication could somewhat relax my very strict diet. I am very curious to find your opinion on "Accolate". I've done some looking, but can't seem to find too much information on it! Sincerely, Jennifer K

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jennifer,

I am neither pharmacist nor physician and do not give medical advice. However, I do have access to medical research. Here is something to consider if you are to take accolate (zafirlukast: C-31-H-33-N-3-0-6-S) over a long duration:

Carcinogenesis: In two-year carcinogenicity studies, zafirlukast was administered at oral daily doses of 10, 100, and 300 mg/kg to mice and 40, 400, and 2000 mg/kg to rats. Male mice given 300 mg/kg/day of zafirlukast had a greater incidence of hepatocellular adenomas as compared to concurrent controls; female mice at this dose showed a greater incidence of whole body histocytic sarcomas. Male and female rats given 2000 mg/kg/day of zafirlukast had a greater incidence of urinary bladder transitional cell papillomas as compared to concurrent controls. The clinical significance of these findings for the long-term use of ACCOLATE is unknown.

Before making the all-so important decision to take medication I always consider the problem or symptom. I can relate my own experience and that of my family. We have found that mucus, congestion and asthma-like symptoms were completely eliminated after we stopped eating dairy products.

You seem to have discovered that your asthma is "milk-induced." Sometimes all it takes to trigger an asthma attack is one slice of pizza or a sprinkle of parmesian cheese on pasta.

For you and millions of others, the solution is to eliminate the cause.

Accolate has received accolades and is a miracle drug. Three hours after taking Accolate, blood serum levels are at their highest. All that I know indicates that the miracle drug is just that. At $1 per pill, it's a bargain and should be used as an antidote if you have asthma and are foolish enough to have pizza, cheese or ice cream.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: sue
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Toronto
Time: 1999-04-03 10:14:23
Comments: Dear Robert, Could you please find info on the junk they put into IV feeds for people on gastric tubes? My dad is also on this in hospital, like the person who previously inquired about this. I meant to check the list of ingredients on the label today when I visited him. As I came home, it occurred to me that it probably contains dairy as a base... or casein, at any rate. I wish I could put him in an equivalent of the Hippocrates Institute to help him recover and even get off the feed tube, which seems to be a life sentence once you're on it... Thanks a lot for your loving concern for your fellow human beings...

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sue,

Sorry about your dad. Hopefully, in the near future you can be there to help nurture him back to good health by providing him with a plant-based diet.

You bring up a fascinating point, worthy of discussion.

On one hand, we go to supermarkets and purchase gallons of milk containing casein. Physicians and medical practitioners and our scientific culture are in denial about the powerful effects casein can produce. On the other hand, casein is used in IV drips and is part of the formula in gastric tube feeding. In this case, those same physicians blindly accept the fact that casein works.

Casein does not become a random ingredient for no good purpose. In your dad's case, it is there for a reason, and I have to agree that it is a good reason. Your dad is in the hospital because his body in not working properly. he requires EMERGENCY care. His body requires nutrition and gastric tube feeding is a process of delivering that nutrition. Casein was originally designed to "PROTECT" substances in a formula from gastric degradation.

Science mimics natural design, accepting the fact that the original intent effectively works to protect lactoferrins and immunoglobulins contained in milk. Society then goes into denial, unable to make the rationalization that casein is a glue which protects the hormones and other "medicines" so contained in the essential body fluid originally designed for infants.

You have not described your dad's diagnosis and current condition. However, I believe in science and also believe that under rare conditions, milk proteins can have a beneficial effect. This is one of those situations. By accepting the TRUTH that casein works, we must apply that truth to understanding that the same mechanism must not be utilized on a daily basis by "healthy" people. Got Milk? GOT CASEIN.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carolyn Dean MD ND
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NY
Time: 1999-04-02 18:15:58
Comments: Robert: I wonder what you think about Sally Fallon and Mary Enig's work with the Price Pottenger Foundation and their book "Nourishing Traditions." Their research and position is that that raw milk and butter have none of these effects, that our efforts should be to "free the cows" and stop all the processing of milk to get back to quality milk products. Thank You Carolyn Dean

Dear Carolyn,

I recently had the pleasure of participating in a panel discussion and debate with Sally Fallon in Pennsylvania. She is well-versed on the issues and has a website expressing her views:

htpp://www.realmilk.com

Sally's position is that commercially prepared milk is not appropriate for human consumption. However, she also believes that unpasteurized and unhomogenized milk from healthy Guernsey and Jersey cows is a healthy and nutritious food for humans. I believe that the healthiest milk from the healthiest cow contains fat, cholesterol, hormones and proteins that cause allergies. All things combined, cow's milk is poison for the human body.

Here is a quote from Sally's WEBSITE:

"Pasteurization destroys enzymes, diminishes vitamin content, denatures fragile milk proteins, alters vitamin B12, destroys vitamin B6, kills beneficial bacteria, promotes pathogens and is associated with allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer. Raw milk sours naturally but pasteurized milk turns putrid and processors must remove slime and pus from pasteurized milk by a process of centrifugal clarification."

Sally and I will be debating the issues on April 20th at New York University in New York City.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Coby Hochstein
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Phoenix, AZ
Time: 1999-04-02 02:00:14
Comments: The Book is Great ! To simply put it, there is NO other animal that drinks milk after it has matured. Milk is Poison ! Cooked Food is Poison !

Name: sue maltman again
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Toronto
Time: 1999-04-02 01:48:54
Comments: What I meant to comment on in my previous posting was our erroneous belief in calcium as the osteo preventitive. Hogwash! If we'd give up our soda pop drinking, excessive protein eating and low veggie and fruit lifestyle, our calcium levels would skyrocket. Even if we give up dairy, our bodies will have enough. By ensuring that our intake of phosphorus isn't ridiculously high, our calcium and magnesium assimilation is enhanced. My favourite milk alternative (I am an inveterate juicer!) is carrot juice. I believe the amount of calcium ounce for ounce of carrot juice to milk is 8 or 10 times greater. And it is more digestible. Sound good?

Name: Sue Maltman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Toronto, Canada
Time: 1999-04-02 01:20:00
Comments: What a pleasure to find this website! After nursing three babies well past the limits approved by "polite society" I have spouted these beliefs for years. My son was never sick until after he was weaned at two and a half, coming down with colds, ear infections, pinworms...Once I took him off cow's milk again, his health immediately improved. No more allergies. My middle daughter has always had a terrible problem with mucous, as I have myself. Providing we avoid dairy, no mucous.... I would recommed to any reader of this site the book Your Body's Many Cries for Water by Dr. Batmanghelidj, an Iranian doctor practising in Boston. He has researched the effects of water deprivation on humans for years in his extensive practice. His book is an eye opener. The comment on histamine reaction is what triggered my suggestion - as the milk protein casein stimulates its production, water, in contrast, soothes and reverses this reaction. Keep up your good work, and may we all live mucous free... :-)

Name: Danita
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Gaithersburg, MD
Time: 1999-04-01 23:43:59
Comments: I have a 2 year old, and I know that calcium is important to her growth, so how would you suggest supplementing her calcium?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Danita,

In order to absorb calcium, the body needs comparable amounts of another mineral element, magnesium. Milk and dairy products contain only small amounts of magnesium. Without the presence of magnesium, the body only absorbs 25 percent of the available dairy calcium content. The remainder of the calcium spells trouble. Without magnesium, excess calcium is utilized by the body in injurious ways. The body uses calcium to build the mortar on arterial walls which becomes atherosclerotic plaques. Excess calcium is converted by the kidneys into painful stones which grow in size like pearls in oysters, blocking our urinary tracts. Excess calcium contributes to arthritis; painful calcium buildup often is manifested as gout. The USDA has formulated a chart of recommended daily intakes of vitamins and minerals. The term that FDA uses is Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA). The RDA for calcium is 1500 mg. The RDA for magnesium is 750 mg.

Society stresses the importance of calcium, but rarely magnesium. Yet, magnesium is vital to enzymatic activity. In addition to insuring proper absorption of calcium, magnesium is critical to proper neural and muscular function and to maintaining proper pH balance in the body. Magnesium, along with vitamin B6 (pyridoxine), helps to dissolve calcium phosphate stones which often accumulate from excesses of dairy intake. Good sources of magnesium include beans, green leafy vegetables like kale and collards, whole grains and orange juice. Non-dairy sources of calcium include green leafy vegetables, almonds, asparagus, broccoli, cabbage, oats, beans, parsley, sesame seeds and tofu.

Human Breast Milk has 33 milligrams of calcium per 100 gram portion. Here are some of the foods that have more calcium by weight than nature's perfect food!

Almonds, Amaranth, Apricots (dried), Artichokes, Beans (can: pinto, black), Beet greens (cooked), Blackeye peas, Bran, Broccoli (raw), Brussel Sprouts, Buckwheat, Cabbage (raw), Carrot (raw), Cashew nuts, Cauliflower (cooked), Swiss Chard (raw), Chickpeas (garbanzos), Collards (raw leaves), Cress (raw), Dandelion greens, Endive, Escarole, Figs (dried), Filberts (Hazelnuts), Kale (raw leaves), Kale (cooked leaves), Leeks, Lettuce (lt. green), Lettuce (dark green), Molasses (dark), Mustard Green (raw), Mustard Green (cooked), Okra (raw or cooked), Olives, Orange (Florida), Parsley, Peanuts (roasted & salted), Peas (boiled), Pistachio nuts, Potato Chips, Raisins, Rhubarb (cooked), Sauerkraut, Sesame Seeds, Squash (Butternut), Soybeans, Sugar (Brown), Tofu, Spinach (raw), Sunflower seeds, Sweet Potatoes (baked), Turnips (cooked), Turnip Greens (raw), Turnip Greens (boiled), Water Cress.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lisa
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Maryland
Time: 1999-04-01 22:09:49
Comments: What are the alternatives for children? I have a 4 year old with allergies and asthma.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Every cell in every body, whether adult or child, needs water. That is the drink of choice in our family. If you are looking for alternative calcium sources consider how cows get calcium. There are 33 milligrams of caclium per 100 gram portion of human breast milk. Broccoli has 102 milligrams and collards have 170. Your food is naturally loaded with calcium. Nations in which milk intake is high also have high rates of bone disease.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Joe
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-04-01 00:55:54
Comments: THIS IS NOT FOR ANYONE WITH A WEAK STOMACH! Until about a year ago, i used to drink somewhere between a quart and a 1/2 gallon of milk a day! Since i have cut down, i had considerably less mucus and got sick less often. Which brings me to my question: Could milk be addicting in some sort of way? Just wondering.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Joe,

Milk's designer/inventor thought of many things. Included in milk are immunolological factors which protect the infant from future disease. Milk has essential fats and oils which promote neurological development in the nursing infant. Milk contains hormones which nurture the cells and promote growth. Milk contains fat and casein which protect lactoferrins and immunoglobulins from destruction in the stomach and gut.

Milk contains fat which tastes delicious. Milk has been called a comfort food. This makes sense. The process by which an infant nurses from its mother should be a comforting and nurturing experience.

Milk also contains opiate-like compounts called endomorphins and casomorphins. The infant is supposed to return to the nipple or breast for its nourishment. Such chemical messengers make milk the perfect food for an infant who is unable to provide for himself or herself. (Last weeks column illustrates what happens when non-infant humans eat casomorphins. GOT Attention Deficit Disorder?)

Each formula for each species is different, depending on the requirements of that animal. For example, cows are meant to grow bones large enough to support 1200 pounds. There are 118 milligrams of calcium per 100-gram portion of cow's milk. Humans grow bones to support one-eighth that amount of weight. Human breast milk contains just 33 milligrams of calcium per 100 gram portion.

Whether one believes in God or Mother Nature or evolutionary processes, one must marvel and respect the magnificent mechanism which feeds and nourishes and satisfies the needs of infants.

Would you imagine those same mechanisms were designed for adults?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 1999-03-31 21:45:42
Comments: I have skimmed through all of the comments on this website so far and have found 47 comments of people who have either had their health improved or various health conditions eliminated by excluding dairy from their diets. What better proof can you ask for than first hand testimonies. More people using this website should enter their comments on improved health. Even though there is overwhelming evidence on this website and others that milk is not safe, some people will only believe by hearing of personal accounts. Even then some people will not believe because they are close-minded and set in their ways. I gave an audio tape of one of your radio interviews to one of my friends. He later told me that he was going to return the tape to me without listening to it because he liked his cheese. Some people just don't want to hear the truth because it might cause them to have to change their lifestyle or eating habits. Others are more open-minded. All you are doing is asking people to try getting off of dairy for a little while. Who is twisting their arms? Unfortunately, those who are unwilling to listen to evidence may continue to suffer from various ailments and perhaps 10 or 20 years from now get some form of cancer. Then it may be too late to recover. Too bad the news media doesn't give this story more coverage. It might save some lives. I especially feel sorry for the children who are forced to drink milk by their parents who are unaware of the harm they are doing to their children. Keep spreading this information and continue to give us information on research or studies that prove your point. Maybe that will persuade more people of they hear it from a scientist.

Name: T. Nesbitt
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Washington, DC
Time: 1999-03-31 19:27:18
Comments: This is a question. Is casein the same as lactose intolerance? I do not drink milk and haven't since I got off the bottle. I have three boys and once they were off the bottle they didn't want milk. But a friend of mine who is a herbalist told me the dangers of milk long time ago. Keep up the good work!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Lactose intolerance is the inability to digest a milk sugar. Most humans lack a key enzyme, lactase which breaks down lactose into glucose and galactose. People who are lactose intolerant usually exhibit symptoms as early as 30 minutes after eating ice cream, cheese or milk. These symptoms include pain, gas, bloating and diarrhea.

Casein is a protein. The body reacts to this bovine protein as if it is an antigen or foreign invader. Your body's response is to produce histamines which in turn create mucus. The effects of casein ingestion might not be observed until twelve hours after eating a slice of pizza. For most people, the mucus and awful bowel movements become an accepted fact of life. Few ever make the connection between ingestion and ill effects.

The first step to reclaiming your health is to give up all milk and dairy products for just five days. EAT NO CASEIN. On day six, just eat one slice of pizza and watch what happens to your body just twelve hours later. This little experiment should be convincing.

Do not be the average American who spends his life with one gallon or more of mucus congesting his internal organs. Give up all milk and dairy and it will feel as if an internal "fog" has lifted from your body.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website: PCRM?
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-03-31 19:20:29
Comments: Robert, Who or what is the PCRM? Isn't that a doctor's group that advocates a veggie diet? Aren't they the ones who filed a complaint with the FTC back in Spring of '95 over the Milk Mustache Ads? How come we are still seeing the ads? Guess the FTC must have turned them down? Didn't PCRM also try to place some mad cow ads in a couple of Iowa newspaper and get rejected because the ads were "not accurate" and "unsubstantiated"? You should choose your friends more wisely!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

I am proud to support PCRM and have learned much from this organization which consists of 5,000 physicians. Thank you for calling to my attention the fact that PCRM's programs should be further supported and promoted.

This information comes from PCRM's website:

PCRM promotes preventive medicine through innovative programs:

PCRM has led the way for reforms of federal nutrition policies. Our clinical research programs are breaking new ground in diabetes, cancer, and other serious conditions.

The Cancer Prevention and Survival Fund has provided vital information to tens of thousands of people. The Gold Plan is a program for healthful eating for businesses, hospitals, and schools.

The New Four Food Groups is PCRM’s innovative proposal for a federal nutrition policy that puts a new priority on health. The program also includes an effective nutrition curriculum for schools.

Our Saving Lives public service announcement series featured Dr. Henry Heimlich demonstrating the Heimlich Maneuver, as well as messages on heart disease and cancer prevention.

Research Advocacy

We encourage higher standards for ethics and effectiveness in research:

We oppose unethical human experiments. While great strides have been made in eliminating such experiments, problems remain. For example, children are still given synthetic growth hormone in experiments to make them taller, and both children and adults are exposed to unnecessary new drugs which have toxic effects.

We promote alternatives to animal research. We have worked to put a stop to gruesome experiments, such as the military’s cat-shooting studies, DEA narcotics experiments, and monkey self-mutilation projects. We also promote non-animal methods in medical education. Currently, more than half of all U.S. medical schools have dropped their animal labs for medical students.

Medical Care

PCRM advocates broader access to medical services:

We promote better medical care for disenfranchised groups, including minorities, women, persons with AIDS, and homeless persons.

Organization

Founded in 1985, PCRM is a non-profit organization supported by over 5,000 physicians and 100,000 laypersons. Supporters receive Good Medicine each quarter. PCRM programs combine the efforts of medical experts and grass-roots individuals.

Leadership

PCRM president Neal D. Barnard, M.D., is a popular speaker and the author of Foods That Fight Pain; Eat Right, Live Longer; Food for Life; and other books on preventive medicine. PCRM’s advisory board includes 12 health professionals from a broad range of specialties.

T. Colin Campbell, Ph.D. - Cornell University

Caldwell B. Esselstyn, Jr., M.D. - The Cleveland Clinic

Lawrence Kushi, Ph.D. - University of Minnesota

Suzanne Havala, M.S., R.D., L.D.N., F.A.D.A. - The Vegetarian Resource Group

Henry J. Heimlich, M.D., Sc.D. - The Heimlich Institute

Virginia Messina, M.P.H., R.D. - Nutrition Matters, Inc.

John McDougall, M.D. - McDougall Program, St. Helena Hospital

Milton Mills, M.D. - Washington, D.C.

Dean Ornish, M.D. - Preventive Medicine Research Institute

Myriam Parham, R.D., L.D., C.D.E. - East Pasco Medical Center

William Roberts, M.D. - Baylor Cardiovascular Institute

Andrew Weil, M.D. - University of Arizona

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lisa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maryland
Time: 1999-03-30 23:40:01
Comments: I'm interest in knowing your opinion on Milk and kids. Every doctor says that they need milk so what could we use to substitute. I have a 4 year old with algeries and asthma.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lisa,

Please copy this column for your doctor:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/111598.html

Dr. Frank Oski, once chief of Pediatrics at Johns Hopkins Medical School, called CASEIN in milk the number-one reason that kids have earaches, colds and violent allergies including asthma. Before his death Dr. Spock wrote that cow's milk was inappropriate for human consumption.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Geane
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MD
Time: 1999-03-30 19:31:39
Comments: I have a friend, female age 28. She has developed a cronic arthritic condition. Pain, stiffness and swelling. I would be interested in any information regarding allergic reaction that may cause this kind of condition. Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you. Geane

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Geane,

More than 50 million Americans suffer from arthritis and there are hundreds of different contributing causes. Arthritis rarely affects people under the age of thirty and usually affects most people over age sixty. One exception to this is rheumatoid arthritis which does affect young people. Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disease in which the body turns upon itself. In caseS of rheumatoid arthritis, the immune system incorrectly identifies synnovial fluid membranes and destroys them. What causes such a response? Allergins, microorganisms; there are many theories.

Two-thirds of the nearly two million sufferers of Rheumatoid arthritis are women.

All milk and dairy products should be eliminated from your friend's diet. Inflammation can be caused by casein in milk and cheese. I recommend FRESH pineapple to anyone with inflammation because a naturally occurring enzyme in that fruit (bromelain) reduces inflammation.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Christopher Wellins
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Haskell, New Jersey
Time: 1999-03-30 07:02:39
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, Your apperance on the OakLander was very informative. It encouraged my Fiance and I to reevaluate our diet and eating habbits. When you made the comment of asking someone if they drink milk and that person responded no but did not take into account of all the other things they are eating that do contain milk really opened my eyes. Once you said it it was common sense. Please feel free to update us on your latest findings and information. Because of you I see eating and taking care of myself in a whole new light. I can only hope that your knowledge and findings can make it into every home in this country and around the world. I live in a little town that is only about maybe five miles from Oakland and have never really watched The Oaklander but your discussion caught my ear which at the time would be somewhat hard to do considering that I had a really bad ear infection. Thank you again and keep up the fight because we are worth it. Sincerly, Christopher Wellins

Name: Veganman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-30 06:49:10
Comments: As the medical spokes-people for PETA, PCRM is doing their ethical duty in speaking against milk. Proud member of PETA here!

Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Stewartsville, MO
Time: 1999-03-30 05:31:25
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I have spent the last week studying this site. You have gathered an impressive display of statistics, percentages, scientific terminology and testimonials. However, we all know that what is creatively arranged on paper does not necessarily duplicate real life. For example, I am doing very well financially on paper - in reality - my cash flow bites! If necessary, I can dress up the numbers if I have to, but it doesn't help me in the long run. There is as much, if not more, data supporting the nutritional aspects of dairy products, and the animal care involed in the production of such. I would like the opportunity to cut through the numbers and innuendo, and give readers the facts based on real life, personal experiences, logic, and most importantly, common sense. Thousands of years ago humans discovered that it was much easier to tame our prey and take it along with us. That's what livestock is, prey. Our ancestors learned to breed for better meat, more eggs, more milk, in horses it was for power and speed. Dogs were bred for protection, companionship and help with hunting. We also developed plants, for our own and our livestocks consumption. Some animals could not be domesticated, but they were still hunted for food if necessary. Many, many adult animals of different species will drink milk if they can get it. Pigs, chickens, goats, dogs, cats, elephants, wolves, lions, we have a few cows that have to wear weaning muzzles because they nurse on other cows, and they are all over ten years old! Human beings have hands, we don't have to suck on the cow - how absurd to even state that! Back to my story. When we didn't have to spend all our time hunting and gathering, we had time to invent things, travel, learn, explore - and the rest is history. When Jesus was around, two thousand years ago, there was no such thing as refirgeration - except in cold places. He probably was a vegetarian, but we don't know what he would eat today. I don't know if they had cattle or goat milk, but I'm sure it wasn't anything at all like drinking a nice cold glass of chocolate milk - they probably didn't even have glasses. How do we know that Jesus wouldn't like to eat a pizza, or have a big bowl or Tin Roof Sundae ice cream for dessert? Before refrigerated trucks and our mass transportation system, you would be hard pressed to find a vegetarian eskimo! And are they or are they not human beings. We cannot base our diet on what people were eating a hundred years ago, let alone two thousand. We have the choices that we have today because our ancestors wanted more and better lives. Now some facts: The home is a natural environment for a human, as is flying in an airplane, driving a car, or playing a basketball game. The dairy farm is a natural setting for a dairy cow. The lap is a natural setting for a pekinese puppy. Get my drift? Cows do not have breasts - they have udders; teats, not nipples. If a baby calf is left with it's dairy mama, it will die - it will eat itself to a scouring death. Most dairy cows and heifers have no interest in their calves after they are born, a few do, but it has been pretty much domesticated out of them through the centuries. The cow is quite content to let her person do the day care thing. And after the first bottle, a calf doesn't miss his mama. How in the world do you force a cow to get pregnant? Only nature can do that. Yeah, you can ovulate her with hormones (some women do that to themselves), but you cannot force a pregnancy. There are two things you just don't want to do: get between a cow in heat and a bull, or get between a cow and her turn into the milking parlor! We don't force milk out of the cows, or exploit them in any way. It is a trade-off. The cow gets room and board, free day care, medical attention, paid vacation and around the clock attention. One person mentioned forcing the cows to have babies and go through labor pains - isn't that life? I had three babies - all natural (against my wishes!) and you know what? I got over it! We all have to go through some pain and discomfort - it's just life. I've written too much today, and I haven't even got into the industry part. I feel bad that some people have problems with milk allergies - but everybody doesn't. Casein gets a lot of press on your site - but everybody should know that the human body cannot turn casein into furniture glue! That takes a chemical process. Just as corn is made into ethanol - but not by our bodies - that takes a whole plant. I heard on AgriTalk today that they are developing more adhesives out of soybeans! So elements of corn and soybeans (Which I assume are important parts of a vegetarian diet) are used to make inedible, poisonous substances. One more thing - in my last letter you answered by saying that you liked my letter, you liked me, that farmers have a love-affair type of life with their farms. But in your other writings, you have said that you agree with PETA, that our livestock lived in horrible conditions. Which is it? I respect your stand on your beliefs, but I would appreciate a response that was not patronizing or smart-alecky. My cows are mooing - and I've got to get off this computer and feed them. Carla

Dear Carla,

I like you and there is nothing patronizing about my making such an admission. You weave wonderful tales about the dairy farms that are depicted on the sides of milk cartons and in our psyches. I cannot accept your representation that calves enjoy being penned in a stall so small that they cannot turn around. They get no exercise and their flesh remains soft and pink so that their ultimate fate is to become tender veal. You omit a description of what happens when the cows who no longer produce are culled from your farm led to slaughterhouses. Do you imagine anyone would be your friend, or eat their flesh if they could see the reality of the pain and suffering of these animals?

I did not begin the ANTIDAIRY Coalition out of compassion to animals. My work exists out of compassion to humans. There exists a food group, milk and dairy products, which contains many harmful substances and is difficult to digest. I support PETA's work and no longer eat animals as a result of learning from many indivduals including Howard Lyman and Neal Barnard.

As for CASEIN, that protein acts as an antigen and produces an allergic reaction in ALL humans. We produce HISTAMINES to its presence. Histamines create mucus. Most humans take for granted their congestion and phlegm because milk has been a daily part of their lives. People are simply not aware of what it means to not have a gallon of mucus clogging every internal organ. This is why I tell people to omit all dairy products from their diets for just five days. On day six, eat just one slice of pizza and wait twelve hours. The next morning, phlegm, congestion and mucus. The next bowel movement: sludge. All from one slice of pizza. The cumulative effect of ice cream, yogurt and cheese, sour cream, cream cheese and hundreds of other dairy products combine to be responsible for the overall ill health which plagues Americans.

CASEIN in its pure form is glue. Casein can be mixed with clay and mineral pigments to make coating for paper. Casein is mixed with water and dyes and minerals to make plastic. Eighty percent of ALL milk protein is casein.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Katie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-30 01:09:30
Comments:

Okay.

I've been reading this site for a month now and have been off dairy for 3 weeks. I feel incredible, (as stated in my other guest book entry.)

This message is aimed towards the people who are leaving messages saying "Do your homework!" and "I'd like to see the fact to support what you're saying".

People, he HAS done his homework. He HAS done his research. READ THE ENTIRE SITE before you send these silly messages showing how you haven't read the site fully.

Robert has numerous articles and links to back up his claims.

Please learn to read before you pass judgements! And for those who are in the dairy business, he is protected by freedom of speech. Robert sincerely feels that milk is dangerous so can you blame him for wanting to spread the word?

Regards,

Katie


Name: ?????
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: you wish
Time: 1999-03-30 01:03:59
Comments: milk is verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD, HEALTHY, and TASTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 1999-03-29 20:25:28
Comments: What is the status of your lawsuit against the FDA to release the study results of Richard, Odaglia & Deslex? You had indicated you lost the lawsuit, but are you going to appeal to a higher court?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

I have no plans to appeal that decision. Canadian scientists recently had the opportunity to review the first 90 days of that study. In doing so, they confirmed what I have been saying for five years. Milk hormones exert powerful effects when taken orally.

The second half of the study was stolen from the reviewer's safe. This theft became front-page news in Canada. After day 90, all of the laboratory animals got cancer from the hormone now in our milk, cheese and ice cream.

I recognize the power Monsanto wields. Their ex-attorney now sits on the Supreme Court. Attempts to get this scientific study released would substantiate my claim that the approval of BGH/BST represents the greatest scientific fraud in mankind's history.

Monsanto and FDA would be revealed for the phonies that they are. Can our nation afford so much truth? To go to court would waste my resources. The "game" is fixed.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Troy Turner
Website: National Web Window
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sulphur , LA
Time: 1999-03-29 20:09:27
Comments: I heard about you on the radio in Little Rock, AR and I decided to try going without milk products for a week to see if it would have an effect on my sinus problems. I can't believe how much better I feel and my nasal congestion has just gone away. I find I no longer need decongestants or sinus medications. I'll never consume milk products again. It's wonderful. Troy Turner

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 1999-03-29 19:51:27
Comments: You have stated that milk is not good for us due to the antibiotics, extra growth homones, blood, feces, iodine, etc. that gets into the milk either purposely or carelessly. However, you also indicate that cow's milk is inherently unhealthy for humans due to the casein and the 100 proteins that you say cause antibodies to form. In the Bible it states in various places that humans drank animal milk such as in Deut. 32:13-14. Proverbs 27:27 refers to "goats' milk for your food" (NKJV). When the angels and the Lord came to see Abraham, he gave them butter, milk and a calf to eat (Gen. 18:8). While the Bible was not intended to be a health manual, what a perfect opportunity for the Lord to have told Abraham "incidentally that milk and butter you gave us is not good for your health". Although that was not their purpose for seeing Abraham, it is an example of the Lord God himself eating butter and milk with Abraham and the angels. Presumably, the milk in ancient times had the same proteins and hormones it does today minus the pasteurization and homogenization and the added items mentioned above. Perhaps in those days the milk was properly broken down and digested without harm to the body. They were also most likely in better health than our degenerate bodies are today. The point is why would not raw organic milk taken from healthy, grass-fed cows be good for humans today? Perhaps in ancient times they only drank milk on special occasions or as a delicacy for those who could afford to own a cow. Even if you ignore all the other reasons, it is wiser not to drink the 3 to 4 glasses the dairy industry tries to promote since whole milk is 50% fat as measured by calories. No wonder we have so many overweight children as well as adults. I used to weigh 167 lbs. and am now down to 153 lbs. since eliminating dairy products two months ago. My eyesight is also a little better.

Name: M & M Dairy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-29 10:21:10
Comments: Being a dairy farmer, I was very offended by your website. Do you realize we make a living from milk? If it wasn't for milk, my husband or I wouldn't have a job or income to support or raise our family. Your "facts" about milk sound good to someone looking for an excuse about an illness, problem, etc., but I don't think you have the medical background or real facts to back up your claims about milk as a killer, cause of breast cancer, etc. Do your homework before you make any more false claims. Please! From a proud Dairy Farmer.

Name: Jennifer K
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Ontario, Canada
Time: 1999-03-27 05:55:55
Comments: MILK MAKES ME SICK. Literally. One year ago, at the age of 28 years old, I was sent to an allergist by my GP, having diagnosed me with athsma. I wanted to know how I suddenly developped athsma, and why. The how, we're still not sure, except my breathing test registered zero. The why... I am allergic to milk protein. My lungs were so scarred that I could not breathe. I went on a 6 week elimination diet, and could NOT believe the change in how I felt. I went from being constantly dizzy, exhausted, congested, and experiencing a constant headache to... healthy! I could breathe, I had energy... things I had not experienced for years. I have read some of the other guestbook entries, and I'm not here to comment on the references to the Bible, or religious diets, or anything else. The fact is, milk made me very sick. I have have SO many tests done, I have been diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, "depression", anemia, etc., when the simple fact is, once I stopped the intake of milk, I was FINE. Since discovering the cause of my illness, I have met MANY more just like me online. There are SO many people out there who are shocked to discover that milk may be the cause of their ailment. Just TRY to cut milk out - it is literally everywhere. You just don't undertand until you've been there. Just eating requires so much of my time, attention, and preparation... it is very difficult, but the result - LIVING - is priceless. Some people just don't understand the enormity of this issue for others. PLEASE believe me, milk DOES have the ability to make some people VERY ill. I am not "lactose intolerant", I have MILK PROTEIN ALLERGY. There is such a tremendous difference. I loved milk, I miss it - I miss cheese, pizza, yougurt, ice cream, cream cheese and cottage cheese... I miss it all, very much, but I honestly think that the way it was affecting my breathing, it would have killed me in the long run. This site and the information in it are simply invaluable to a growing percentage of the population, and I want to commend the writer for sharing his knowledge and experience. As for the reader... until you've walked a mile in my shoes, you have NO idea how valid this topic is, or how MUCH it changes peoples lives. I just hope that none of the nay sayers ever have to walk a mile in my shoes. Sincerely, Jennifer K.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jennifer,

I will be in Ontario on the Sixth of April. I hope to meet you at the University of Western Ontario.

Life is so precious. In death, the following autopsy reveals the consequence of the most common milk allergy: CASEIN INTOLERANCE:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/111598.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-26 23:50:23
Comments: Great job!! Keep up the awesome work. And check out my site sometime. While your there sign my guestbook. And let me know what you think. Thanks. Jennifer

Name: Kerrie, PhD
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 1999-03-26 18:12:24
Comments: Notmilkman: Thanks for the clearinghouse of common sense. When a vegetarian stated a few years ago that he gets his calcium from the same place the cows do (plant foods), I laughed. How glaringly obvious! However, isn't it sad that we abuse these animals so horendously (medicating them, hormones, forced pregnancies, stealing their newborns while they grieve, burning them, allowing them to hear the wails of their counterparts being slaughtered alive, etc.), and call it FARMING? I had always pictured farmers as wise people of the earth and weather. It is disgusting what media advertising pushes mindless people to buy, making an "economy" of animal abuse. THIS STUFF ISN'T EVEN REMOTELY HEALTHY FOR HUMANS! Aside from all the toxic waste that is stored in their tissues (from their treatment by humans), their meat becomes adrenalized during the slaughter from their terror. Many farmers admit that they have a cow set aside for their own use, that is treated differently, fed differently, and not drugged. It's all so disgusting, it's hard to remember the humor I saw as a "new" vegetarian in the initial realization of the absurdity of a human sucking a cow's udder (especially as adults!) Keep trying to get the message out. Thanks.

Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-03-26 14:44:15
Comments: The bible has been translated and misinterpretted over thousands of years so it is very difficult to say that Jesus was a vegetarian or was not. However, the evidence available certainly supports, more strongly, the idea that Jesus was a vegetarian. This is not the real issue though when it comes to Christians eating meat. Even if Jesus was not a vegetarian (I definately don't believe this but I can see how some people might want to) then He would not have supported the cruel industries and factory farms that torture and butcher God's creations today. The one thing that is consistent in all translations of the Bible is that Jesus was a compassionate person. Can any Christain honestly see Jesus running a factory farm of chickens? Here is an extract from the above web site (www.ivu.org/articles/net/misrep.html)that supports Jesus being a vegetarian and not eating meat at the passover:

In his book The Gospel of the Holy Twelve, the late G J.Ousley offers a translation of the original Gospel which members of the Essene community preserved from the general corruption. Here is a version of Jesus's teachings that has not been tampered with by the 'correctors' appointed by the ecclesiastical authorities of Nicea. These 'editors' cut out with minute care the teachings they were disindined to emphasize or follow, in particular everything that might serve as an argument against flesh-eating, such as the account of Jesus's interference on several occasions to save animals from ill treatment, and even that interesting and important teaching - ever prominent in eastern scriptures - of the essential unity of all life.

The community in which Joseph and Mary lived did not slaughter a lamb to celebrate the Feast of the Passover. Joseph and Mary, his parents, went up to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover, and observed the feast after the manner of their brethren, who abstained from bloodshed and the eating of flesh and from strong drink.'

The Essene text indicates that from childhood Jesus was loving and protective towards animals and birds. 'And to all he spake, saying:

"Keep yourselves from blood and things strangled, and from dead bodies of birds and beasts, and from all deeds of cruelty and from all that is gotten of wrong. Think ye that the blood of beasts and of birds will wash away sin?"'

The food of John the Baptist was the fruit of the locust tree and wild honey, and the disciples were forbidden to eat flesh food:

'Eat that which is set before you, but of that which is gotten by taking life, touch not, for it is not lawful to you. And into whatsoever city ye enter and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you without taking of life ... And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give without shedding of blood ... Be ye therefore considerate, be tender, be pitiful, be kind; not to your kind alone, but to every creature which is within your care; for ye are to them as gods, to whom they look in their needs.'

It is interesting that the story of the miracle of the loaves and fishes is lacking in this translation. Instead there is a tale of the miracle of the bread and the fruit, and a pitcher of water.

'And Jesus set the bread and the fruit before them and also the water. And they did eat and drink and were filled. And they marvelled; for each had enough to spare, and there were four thousand.'

And when Judas brings a lamb to be slain for the Passover, Jesus reproves him:

'Not by shedding innocent blood, but by living a righteous life shall ye find the peace of God . . . Blessed are they who keep this law; for God is manifested in all creatures. All creatures live in God, and God is hid in them... They in every nation who defile not themselves with cruelty, who do righteousness, love mercy, and revere all the works of God, who give succour to all that are weak and oppressed the same are the Israel of God.'


Name: Leslie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ontario
Time: 1999-03-26 00:45:33
Comments: Both of my children had severe reactions to my breastmilk and I have been told that they have cow's milk protein intolerance and that they should outgrow it. I did not drink milk or consume dairy products with my daughter since she was born so that I could breastfeed her successfully (due to past problems with my son). She still had problems starting with mucous in the stool and then blood and she stretched and complained in obvious pain. I had to stop breastfeeding at 5 weeks despite not having had dairy products and having cut out all of the other poosibly offending foods such as eggs and orange juice. Do you know of any information that may be useful to me? My son did very well on Carnation Goodstart formula which has the proteins broken up but when we tried him on cow's milk at one year he had a relapse. He is now doing very well on goat's milk which has smaller proteins. Thank you

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Leslie,

When mammals are weaned they no longer require milk. When baby humans grow teeth, that becomes a signal for solid food. Adults have no nutritional need for mother's milk, cow's milk, goat's milk, soy milk or rice milk. Neither do children, past the age of weaning.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sara Shepherd
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Stuart, Iowa
Time: 1999-03-25 04:52:21
Comments: I find your site very offensive and with little documentation to back up your statements. Please refrain from publizing this false information. Thank you!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sara,

Little documentation? Not to worry, dear. I'll soon be coming out with a computer-friendly Braille edition.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belleville, N.J.
Time: 1999-03-24 21:41:05
Comments: I have been reading your website for several weeks and I have been off dairy products for about 2 months. I am one who has consumed the equivalent cholesterol of l million slices of bacon in dairy. God bless you for your courage in providing this valuable information which can prevent people from a lot of suffering if they just do the research with your website and related sites. One thing I take issue with is the religious argument against consumption of meat. The bible indicates the Israelites were commanded to eat only certain meats in Leviticus 11 and Deut. 14. Also the Israelites ate the Passover lamb. They didn't just eat the bitter herbs. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob all had flocks of animals. I am sure they just have them for the wool or the leather goods they produced. Also the claim that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian is contrary to the bible which shows that Jesus ate the Passover meal which included the lamb. Where does it say he just ate the bitter herbs while the rest of the apostles ate the lamb also? However, in today's world where the meat is so polluted with antibiotics, growth hormones, etc. the argument against eating meat is a valid one unless you can buy meat that is not so polluted. In any case you are doing a great job! Don't let anyone intimidate you including the corrupt officials in our current U.S. government who are covering up the truth about milk. Shame on them!

Name: Carole McDonnell
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: USA
Time: 1999-03-24 21:02:55
Comments: My son was diagnosed with PDD-NOS autism. I've spent nine years researching the gluten and casein connection with autism. We took him off the casein and gluten and he's improved immensely. This is tough because these foods are everywhere. Tuna, for instance, has hydrolyzed milk casein. In addition, my other son used to get many ear infections and throat infections and when we removed milk from his diet, he stopped having the colds. I have suffered with endometriosis for many years and when I dropped milk from my diet, the pain and constipation stopped. Now the constipation and stomach ache only happens when I drink milk. I also want to add that milk is in a lot of things...things we wouldn never dream its in.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Here is a list of food items containing CASEIN:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/070598.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Robert-Bob- Day
Website:
Referred by: SimpleNet
From:
Time: 1999-03-24 20:40:30
Comments: Hi-- I saw you at the Health Fair in PA last fall-- glad they haven't tried to dismantle your web site- thanks for the good energy and continued success. Please send me the newsletter at my e mail address--and any back issues you can manage--thanks- Bob Day MH

Name: Brian Macintosh
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Utah
Time: 1999-03-23 23:01:45
Comments: Your website is full of nothing but a large amount of milky feces.

Dear Brian,

The good news is that they put a filter between the cow and the bulk holding tank. The bad news is that the filter fills with brown "sludge" and it's not dirt! You drink a white fluid containing essenses of blood, mucus, pus and excrement. Drink milk...Got feces?

Bon Apetit!

Thre NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dave Filicicchia
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: The Chicago area
Time: 1999-03-23 09:24:17
Comments: I heard about your site on a radio show (WYLL?) related to health. I wanted to check it out because my 11 year old son has asthma. He also loves milk. I also have noticed for some time that my phlegm is quite thick or string-like. My doctor always passed it off as of no significance. I think it may be diet (dairy?) related. Anyway, your site was of interest, but I'd like to see more facts and explanations. I have not fully explored the site, so I may have missed some of the information. For instance, could you give more information about casein? How similar is it to the beer bottle label glue? What effects does it cause in our bodies? How is it related to asthma? Of the many hormones, etc. found in milk, how do those percentages relate to percentages of hormones taken for medicinal purposes? What percentages show measurable changes in our bodies? I think the general public can handle more of the numbers and facts, as long as they're not too overwhelming. Thanks for your time and effort in looking into these issues.

Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Stewartsville, Mo
Time: 1999-03-23 04:03:17
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I gotta get my own web page. Sorry I keep taking up your space, but some of these comments cannot go unanswered! How is my milk a problem? I understand how it can be deadly if a person is allergic, but I'm not. My son is allergic to black licorice, so we learned to keep him away from the black jelly beans. I've been drinking milk and consuming dairy products (except for yogurt) for close to 43 years, and I'm feeling just fine. There was about a five year time span where I had some health concerns: irregular heart beat, panic attacks, and migraine headaches. I went to the doctor and had extensive tests done, I really don't want to die! My cholestral levels were great, my ekg and all the other tests were normal - they could find nothing wrong. I knew there was, it was getting so bad that I was afraid to work, I just layed awake at night, listening to my heart. Sometimes it used to pound so hard that my whole body shook, which of course scared the heck out of me, which just made it worse. Finally one doctor took me by the shoulders, looked me in the eye and said "Quit smoking, and eliminate the caffiene." The caffiene was kind of easy, I just switched to decaffinated. The cigarettes took about a year. But the most important change I made that finally stopped the heart palpitations was getting out of a very toxic relationship. What I am trying to say is, there are many, many things that are bad for the human body - not always food. When I drink a glass of milk, I'm not drinking coffee, tea, or worse, soda. And believe me, I am totally addicted to pop (I'd better not name any brand names). But I only drink it without caffiene. All food has hormones, proteins, chemicals, diseases, carginogens (sp), if you want to look long and hard enough. I'm not going to credit dairy totally for my good health, and I really feel great - really! I am sleep deprived - but my cows have had a lot of calves lately. I eat a wide variety of foods, and depending on the season, a large amount, I eat like a horse! My milking parlor is not heated, and I spend about 14 hours each day outside, so I just burn up the calories. I truly believe that many people's health problems are caused by lack of exercise - and I don't mean just going to the gym and hopping on a treadmill. Maybe I'm lucky, but I'm certainly not out of the norm. My daughter and I eat a lot of no-bake chocolate cookies, pizza, peanut clusters and Ovaltine. My children could be poster people for Milk - it does a body good. So I've said too much already, time to feed you-know-who again. By the way, I don't use BST, not because I'm afraid of it, because there is no need on this farm. My cows are working girls! Anyway, I don't understand why anybody uses it, that is supposedly one reason for the recent price drop - too much supply. I haven't had a case of mastitis for so long, I can't remember when it was. And I can't remember what store-bought milk tastes like. So I guess we're pretty spoiled. I'm sure that I could eliminate milk and dairy products from my diet and be fine, as long as my current lifestyle remained intact, but I would not be very happy. One more thing - in order to prevent osteoporosis, calcium, from whatever source is not enough. A person has to have weight-bearing exercise, and stay active. I will have a web page one of these days, when I get the hang of this computer! Carla

Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Stewartsville, Mo
Time: 1999-03-22 16:02:07
Comments: Mr. Cohen, Thank you for your e-mail message. I have access to milk prices, that wasn't all that I was looking up on the web. For the past 3 years I have been researching the possibility of having an on-the-farm bottling plant. Being on the internet has certainly made that a lot easier! I have been side-tracked by this web page of yours. I have even received a few messages, so have decided it's time to set some of the record straight. Agriculture has changed in the past twenty years. Gone are most of the mid-sized family farms. Today there are either very large corporate operations or small niche-type farms. The dairy industry is undergoing drastic changes - struggling through the transition from government price support to a free-market system. As the government significantly reduces the amount of cheese it buys, dairy producers are enduring wildly fluctuating milk checks. This is one factor leading to dairy farm bankruptcies and closures nationwide. It is true that the dairy industry is in dire straights, but only on the producer end. Processors enjoy the "middleman" status, and the dairy industry is unique in that the producer of the raw product pays advertising and shipping costs, instead of those items coming out of the processor's pockets. It is imperative that small to mid-sized farms create a value-added product in order to survive - becoming processor, wholesaler and retailer. Weather is a major factor in the price we receive for our milk. Not local weather, but whatever it is doing in California, New Zealand, New England, of North Carolina. Our milk price depends on how much American cheese the French are eating, or how many cows calved, or died, in Wisconsin. In 1999, it is a world market, and it will not go back, unless the axis tilts or something. This is why I'm going to bottle my own cow's milk. Another reason is that it is so good! I want to share that with other people. My test market survey proved to me that there is extensive interest in this type of enterprise. There is so much I would like to get into now, but it's time to feed those cows again. They are mooing at me. Who owns who? But there is one thing I would like to say to all the people who have never been to a dairy, and make judgements about the care and treatment of the livestock - it is IMPOSSIBLE to milk an unhappy cow! No matter how small or large the farm, the cow has to be well taken care of. I will go into more detail later. Diane's letter made me realize that I need to give you some background information before I go any further. I am a grandmother of three, mother of three - two of which are grown, with a teenage daughter still at home. My introduction into the dairy lifestyle was unintentional - until 14 years ago my greatest animal love had been horses. For a divorce settlement I was awarded custody of the kids and our family milk cow "Susie", a beautiful little Jersey. Susie had been added to our family because of our high level of milk consumption, but she added so much more to our lives. Horses are way too expensive to keep, so it was an economic decision. I was not raised on a farm, there are no dairy farmers in my family. My parents were divorced when I was three, and I am the oldest of three girls, My sisters are Kathy and Judy. Our hometown was small, maybe 1500 people at the time - and I am the only one of my family to move to the country as soon as I got out of the house! Like I said, I have always been obsessed with horses - we also collected every stray animal in town - I even broke my dog out of the city pound - more than once. I have had many jobs through the years, working at horse stables (my favorite, until I started dairying), rural mail route carrier (the hardest job in the world!), truck gardened with my in-laws (yeah - vegetables!), worked in a book manufacturing plant, almost all phases of a newspaper (my great-grandparents and then my grandmother owned our small home-town newspaper), typeset, and worked at bigger dairies, at a day care, and so many other part-time odd jobs I don't even want to remember! I went to a Junior college for a year and a half, Equine studies course. So Diane - dairying is not my life's work. It is a chosen career, and I don't regret one moment. It has enabled me to be an at-home mother, it is a way of life and of employment that does not discriminate against anybody. It requires a vast amount of knowledge about cattle, marketing, nutrition, psychology, medical care, genetics, budgeting, bookkeeping, and superior management. It is a 24/7. milk IS good for my body, and farm living, dairying is great for my soul! I really have to go now, or those cows are going to come in and get me! Carla

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Carla,

I like your letter. I like you. Dairywomen and dairymen live a love affair-style existance with their farms and animals. They have the greatest of work ethics and most admirable sets of values.

It's your milk that's the problem, not you!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Fivey Rudnick
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Professor Emeritus, Chemistry, West Chester U. of Pennsylvania
Time: 1999-03-22 04:09:22
Comments: Why do you continue to maintain two web sites? It does not appear necessary to me and is confusing.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Professor,

As the antidairycoalition moves to another level sometime this September the "other site" will be used for many other purposes. For now, much of the same information is on both sites. However, the sites do have many differences.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Christa
Website: Christa's Vegan Cookery Website!
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Vancouver, B.C. Canada
Time: 1999-03-21 10:02:21
Comments: I have been vegan now for almost 6 months and have never, ever, felt better in my ENTIRE life. It was a Robert Cohen article about the dangers of consuming dairy milk that made me look into living completely animal-product free (I'd been vegetarian for several years before this), and I am so glad that I have had my eyes opened. Keep spreading "the word". I know I am. Visit my vegan recipe site!

Name: Vanessa Costello
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Detroit
Time: 1999-03-21 06:19:29
Comments: I believe milk contributes greatly to the poor health of our society. On this website, I think you should add the substites of milk. Such as green vegatables for calcium. People should realize that humans believe in a society which encourages drinking cow's breastmilk.

Name: Milky
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: milk town
Time: 1999-03-21 06:11:58
Comments: Milk tastes great!!! Leave it alone!!!

Name: Stephanie duPont
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Whitefish Mt.
Time: 1999-03-21 03:47:48
Comments: Do you know how goat milk matches up as far as strange hormones and other toxins.? Is it just as dangerous as cow milk from corporate dairys? I'm trying to find small scale grade A milking equipment and if you had any information I would gratefully pay some attension.

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-03-20 19:04:16
Comments: Robert, Are you at all familiar with the case that came before the Supreme Court not long ago entitled General Electric Co. (GE) v. Joiner? Do you see any way that this might apply to you and what you do here no this webpage? I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about this!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I try to keep up-to-date on things affecting MONSANTO, manufactures of poisons like the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. Although the defendent in this case was G.E., MONSANTO was indirectly a "player."

When issues reach the Supreme Court, MONSANTO'S attorney, Justice Thomas is there to protect his old client.

Joiner got cancer from a MONSANTO dioxin used in G.E. facility. MONSANTO employees were previously affected with cancer from the same toxin. MONSANTO should have let G.E. know.

This case reached the not-so Supreme Court because a lower court ruled inadmissable the testimony of Mr. Joiner's expert. The case was not decided on its own merits. It was decided on legal maneuverings. Joiner's legal team attempted to introduce evidence of a similar cancer case involving workers in a MONSANTO facility. That was his undoing. MONSANTO cannot afford to have the world know about their poisons; dioxins, agent orange, NutraSweet and genetically engineered foods. These issues make headlines around the world but are mysteriously under-reported in America.

The difference between the Joiner case and Oprah's meat case(& Howard Lyman's) is that nobody is going to bring the NOTMILKMAN to Court. I dare the dairy industry to try and knock the carton of milk off of my shoulder. No way they will do that! Imagine an OJ-like trial with MILK sitting in the witness seat? That is something that America deserves to see. Issues should be determined on their merits and evidence should not be barred from review. TRUTH PREVAILS.

Thank you for bringing this case to the public's attention, Jim.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: David Briscoe
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-03-19 23:13:57
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen,I found this website from reading your book. I travel all over the US and abroad teaching people about the health problems caused by consuming dairy products. Thank you for your wonderrful book, your fine website and for being courageous.Peace.David Briscoe

Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-03-19 17:48:36
Comments: I am writing in response to an earlier message posted by J.R. claiming that God put us on the Earth to rule over the animals and eat their flesh. I have one question to you JR. Do you think God is a sick, twisted creator? I can only assume you do. The reason is because if God intended us to factory farm, butcher and torture his creations why would he give them a nervous system? So they can feel the pain that we will inflict on them? Surely, if He could have created them anyway He wished (He is the creator afterall)then He would have spared them a nervous system so they wouldn't suffer. Why did He create chickens with beaks if they only have to be debeaked for factory farming? Why did He give them wings if they were never intended to be stretched? Why aren't cows just masive udders - why do they have legs and eyes? The answer to all these questions is that God created these features for the animals to be free and experience the world not to be tortured and confined. God is not evil or twisted after all (there's a suprise!).

It's interesting to see that new Genetric Enigineering techniques are now breading chickens with more than two legs (so we can eat more chicken drum sticks) and chickens with no feathers so we never have to pluck them. Why didn't God create them this way initially if this is what He had intended for them?

In the bible there is a passage where humans are said to have dominance over animals. I interpret this as meaning we are responsible for protecting and preserving the animals as their fate is in our hands. Surely this is a more compassionate and likely explanation particularly when you consider that "dominance" is a word translated from many different languages over thousands of years. Please visit this Web site for more information.

http://www.jesusveg.com


Name: J.R.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NJ Baby
Time: 1999-03-19 08:26:46
Comments: i think what you guys are trying to do it great...more power to you...but i am the farthest thing from a vegan, and i dont like it when ppl alwaysd try to convince me that eating meat is wrong....and i also dont appreciate being told that it is wrong for me to eat flesh...man was put on the earth to rule over all the lands and all the beasts of the earth. this includes eating them...read your Bible....thanks

Name: Yoav Gothilf
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Maryland
Time: 1999-03-19 07:14:21
Comments: Question: I agree that milk is unhealthy. However, what about live yogurt, the kind that goes bad in a few days even if refrigerated. This yogurt is not much of a milk anymore and is more of a bacterial culture. Do these bacteria, which utilize the proteins, carbohydrates and fat that is in the milk in order to grow and multiply, change the composition of the milk so it becomes healthy ? Do these bacteria modify fat and cholesterole ? Looking forward to your unswer, Yoav.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear "You-Have-Got-Health (@ NIH),

I compliment you on your witty EMAIL address. Considering that it is a government National Institutes of Health address, I applaud such independent and creative expression, and only wish that NIH had applied such creative thinking to their analyses of the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone.

Your EMAIL address is Yiddish, but you already know that. "YO"=I, "AV"=Certainly, "GOT"=God "Hilf"= help or assistance. Are you God...or are you a doctor? :>)

Here is my assessment of the bacteria added to yogurt:

Lactobacillus Acidophilus

In the mid-1980's acidophilus was first suggested to have health benefits for humans (1,2). Acidophilus occurs naturally in the gastrointestinal tract but tends to grow slowly when added to milk (yogurt), leading to the risk of undesirable organisms. There is no direct proof and no consensus among researchers on whether or not added acidophilus in yogurt adheres to or colonizes in the intestines (3).

Few human studies have been performed. A recent DANNON study reported that yogurt did not alter immunoglobulin secretions. These results show no health benefits from yogurt consumption. (4)

1. Jones, et al,(1985) Effect of acidophilus yogurt on serum cholesterol, triglyceride and lipoprotein levels of healthy males. J. Dairy Sci. 68 (Suppl. 1 83-84

2. Nelson, et al, (1984) Cholesterol uptake by lactobacillus acidophilus, J. Dairy Sci. 67 (Suppl. 1), 50

3. Saavedra, et al, (1995) Microbes to fight microbes, J. Pediatric Gastroenterol. 21, 125-129

4. Marteau, et al, (1996) Effects of Lactobacillus acidophilus strain LA1 on serum concentration and jejunal secretions of immunoglobulins and serum proteins in healthy humans. In SOMED 21st Intl. Congress on microbial ecology and disease, Paris, October 28-30, 1996.

As acidophilus multiply, they produce body wastes which smell anything but pleasantly aromatic. Like milk, yogurt microorganisms continue to grow, even under refrigeration.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Margaret
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Florida
Time: 1999-03-19 06:08:46
Comments: Just wanted to know where you got your information regarding the 60% of dairy cows that are infected with the leukemia virus. I have a friend whose child has leukemia and would like to pass this info. on to her, but would like to know whre this info. came from. My children have nver drinken milk and I stopped about 9 years ago. Our foods are endangering our children and we are surrounded and tempted by these foods everyday. I would appreciate a response so I can pass on some intelligent info. to my friends. I will read more of your sight now but that was really the reason why I visited. Oh and by the way I found out about you from Natural Living Today Magazine. Thank You.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Margaret,

Virgil Hulse, MD., MPH, FAACPM, is a dairy industry expert and was an "expert witness" for OPRAH in her victorious legal victory against America's cattlemen. Dr. Hulse has written a best-selling book: MAD COWS AND MILK GATE, which is available from Marble Mountain Publishing (541-482-2048). In his book Hulse documents incidences of leukemia in dairy cows and cases in which this virus is transferred across species lines.. Hulse is a dairy scientist, a cancer epidemiologist and a researcher. He was a milk and dairy inspector for 13 years in California. He is board certified in family practice and in public health and preventive medicine. He is a Fellow of the American College of Preventive Medicine and has lectured for medical societies and dairy organizations.

Laboratory animals treated with Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone experienced spleen increases of 46% after just 90 days of treatment (Richard, Odaglia and Deslex,1989). Such abnormal increase in a human is often followed by a diagnosis of leukemia. The spleen, the major organ in our lymphatic system is the first sentinel of defense in the human body. When our systems are "invaded" the spleen manufactures more white and red blood cells.

MONSANTO'S genetically engineered poison caused leukemia-like symptoms in lab animals and FDA refuses to release the entire study, despite my Freedom of Information Act requests and an unsuccessful suit in federal court.

This is why we test lab animals; to determine human safety. This is one further reason why laboratory animal testing is a complete fraud. The leukemia connection is what first motivated me to investigate this controversy. When adverse effects are hidden, and children get sick, we react with anger and frustration. My book, the formation of the ANTIDAIRY Coalition and all that I now do is because of that child of your friend.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carla Russell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Stewartsville, MO
Time: 1999-03-19 04:23:47
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I wrote a pretty long message a little while ago, but couldn't get it sent. I'm new to this surfin' the net business. I fact, I found this site while I was searching for information about milk prices. That's right, I'm one of those sadistic, conspiricy minded dairy farmers, a woman at that. I have a lot to say about your trashing of my occupation/lifestyle choices - but I've spent a lot of time trying to get my first message sent, and now it's time to go out and torture (Oops, I mean feed) my cows. We worked pretty hard this morning, I was milking and they were eating and laying around waiting for their five minutes in the parlor, and now it's almost time to do it again. I'll try to write more later. Carla

Name: garlin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: tORONTO
Time: 1999-03-19 01:05:13
Comments: Yo (censored)!!! How can you say that milk is dangerous to humans... I drank milk all my life and I'm fine so there's some proof... The only problem I have is (censored) but that's not from milk...It's because I consumed a lot of (censored) as a child. What literature do you have to prove your findings? I would like to hear from u

Name: Mitchel Cohen
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Green Party of NY
Time: 1999-03-19 00:12:48
Comments: We've been organizing hard here in NY against rBGH. There will be a protest at the Board of Education's offices at 110 Livingston St., in downtown Brooklyn, on Tuesday, March 23 at 4 pm, organized by the Brooklyn Greens and friends, to stop the purchase of rBGH milk by the Bd of Ed.Hope you can come.All power to the people,Mitchel Cohen, for the Green Party of NY

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I'll be there!

Here is a little something to inspire the kids:

http://www.notmilk.com/dumpit.html

When they're finished doing the above, Here is step number two:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/sprayit.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1999-03-18 04:03:07
Comments: Have you ever considered all of the fillers that is used in processing of many products? Why haven't you ever considered all of the things that processing does to ruin the milk? Why haven't you considered the possibility of all this processing being the primary source of cancer? I was reading on another webpage about those effects. www.realmilk.com At least there they have conclusions that make sence. And another thing, you claim that all these different diseases are caused by dairy products. A hundred years ago before all of these diseases were common people had dairy products in their diet. Wouldn't it make more sence to conclude that all of this "modern" processing is the cause of it? Or maybe the chemicals that are injected into all of our foods?

Dairy Farmer & Consumer for life!
wholesome - pure - unprocessed
Wayne Sletten Jr.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

All of those things Sally Fallon says about modern milk on her webpage are true. You, Sally and the NOTMILKMAN agree: Modern milk is a poison.

However, so is "wholesome" organic milk, for humans. There are powerful growth hormones in milk, Wayne. Your love of cows and dairy farm is not going to remove these factors from cow's milk. Hormones, allergenic proteins. These are substances designed for baby cows, not baby or adult humans. Would calves be healthier if they drank human breast milk? Would that make as much sense as it does for us to drink their milk?

One hundred years ago the average dairy cow only yielded one quart of milk each day. Without refrigeration, milk spoiled quickly. We eat an entirely different diet today.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carl
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-17 08:14:55
Comments: Hi Robert, yesterday I had a friend ask me to supply him with additional sources as to the adverse effects of the homoginization process on the structure of the fat within milk and the damage this could ultimately do in the body. I know I've read several reports on this subject (one major). My present, personal research materials contain only vague references to this topic. Can you recall any of the more notable sources? Thank you for your time. Take care,Carl

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Carl,

I recently addressed HOMOGENIZATION in my weekly column:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/022199.html

WHAT IS HOMOGENIZATION?

When milk is passed through a fine filter at pressures equal to 4,000 pounds per square inch, the fat globules (liposomes) are made smaller (micronized) by a factor of 10 times or more. These fat molecules become evenly dispersed within the liquid milk so that, by code, after 48 hours of storage at 45 degrees Fahrenheit, there is no visible cream separation in the milk.

HOMOGENIZATION: THE DAIRY INDUSTRY DOWNFALL

Mankind often takes small steps in changing nature's natural mechanisms. In the case of HOMOGENIZATION, mankind has taken an accidental giant stride by insuring that protein hormones in milk survive digestion.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Chet Evans
Website:
Referred by: SimpleNet
From: Baltimore, Md.
Time: 1999-03-17 04:41:39
Comments: What are your thoughts re colustrom(sp). Many ads claiming miracle drug. Book by an M.D. and Ms wyatt(?), claim IGF1 the miracle component in colostrum. Your bk has two refs to colostrum, niether good. Do "natural" cows with no drugs, hormones, etc. have good colostrum. Are the studies reporting all the miracle cures for crohn's, cancer, you name it, bad science? Per your bk and data you claim the opposite. comments please. Met you last year at Balto. hlth expo. Most impressed. I'm confused. Thanks

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

The most well publicized and marketed dietary fad in America today might very well be the most dangerous. Bovine colostrum is the first "milk" produced by a dairy cow. It is against the law for farmers to include this hormone-rich milk for consumer sale, yet, the hormones in colostrum are now finding their way to consumers under the guise of a health product.

CREDIBILITY? The April 1999 issue of the "Townsend Medical Letter" will contain a stunning endorsement for bovine colostrum. The article credits bovine colostrum for providing:

Mood elevation, improved sleep, memory retention, vision, kidney function, sexual performance, energy levels and muscle mass. In addition, users will experience an elimination of wrinkles and cellulite, faster wound healing, and stronger bone growth.

HERE'S WHAT BOVINE COLOSTRUM WILL DO

Bovine colostrum will safeguard America's nearly bankrupt Social Security system. It will also insure that pension accounts remain strong. After all, as Americans live into their eighties, nineties and beyond, they threaten the survival of these retirement funds, placing unfair burdens on younger generations who produce to support the elderly. If people get cancer at an earlier age and not live into old age, society will reap a financial benefit.

THE PROBLEM WITH COLOSTRUM:

It's IGF-I! IGF-I in bovine colostrum is identical to human IGF-I, the hormone identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast cancer and male prostate cancer.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: troll
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: vallejo.ca.usa
Time: 1999-03-17 04:12:50
Comments: So "milk" it's in every body causing untold damge. Whoda thought?? I stopped drinking milk for sinus reasons two years ago. now im tired all the time!!!!!
troll
p.s. come visit me!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Troll,

I would expect that somebody with a website named "NUDE FLESH" who posts an Internet message inviting strangers to "come visit me" would be tired...

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michael
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tampa
Time: 1999-03-17 02:53:57
Comments: Hi Mr Cohen! I just wanted to thank you for your stand and for the info in this site. I never realized how bad milk was for me all these years. I wish I had this understanding years ago. One thing I find depressing is how frequently I find casein in food bars like Balance Bars. I'm into lifting weights and it's hard to get enough protein without avoiding casein and whey. If I one were to eat a milk product, would specially filtered whey products, like Designer Protein, be the least "evil" of products to take. I appreciate any insight. (I'll be spreading the word around in newsgroups about the site.)

Name: Aunt Chat
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Washington State
Time: 1999-03-17 02:15:55
Comments: I know what you're saying about dairy products is true. I've had allergies and asthma for many years, and seem to do much better in warmer, dryer weather. But I realize that the milk I drink in a morning latte seems to aggravate the symptoms and I always feel I have mucous and flegm around my larnyx. I have several times switched over to soy and rice milk, tried many brands, but always go back to milk. Now I buy milk from an organic dairy farm that does not pool their milk with other dairies or use pesticides or hormones on their cows. Is organic milk any better? Are their any other substitutes that are acceptable?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Aunt Chat,

Milk from cows treated with the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone and "organically grown wholesome milk" have many things in common.

Both milks naturally contain hormones. Your mucus and phlegm are caused by a milk protein, CASEIN. Eighty percent of ALL milk protein is CASEIN, a tenacious glue and powerful allergin. Your body produces histamines to its presense, which in turn make the mucus that congests your larynx, trachea, lungs and other organs. Rid yourself of all dairy products and you will be free of the mucus and congestion.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jarod Wagoner
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minnesota
Time: 1999-03-17 01:56:21
Comments: Mr Cohen You are a (censored) loser if you have to dovote all of your time trashing the dairy farmers that work their (censored) off trying to provide for their families. You must be on welfare or something to have all this time to do all this(censored). Why don't you let the American public justify for themselves weather or not they will eat dairy products. Just because you are such a (censored) and you want people to know your (censored) you think of something like this that you can (censored) about. You were born a (censored) and you will die an even bigger (censored). I think you should spend this time that you (censored) about something that people love and work hard for and use that time to help out yourself to get a job or help out other unemployed people. Dairyfarmers are the best people I know they work extremely hard to satisfy the public and give them the highest quality of milk that they can. It's not the farmers fault when big business come in and sticks their heads into dairy because all the big business see is $$$--Big business being--Monsato, Cargill and so on. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR (censored).

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jarod,

I agree with you about one very special point. Dairy people do work hard and represent the best of what America has to offer.

Yet, dairy people are using Monsanto's genetically engineered poison for a few extra dollars. Dairy marketing people and industry leaders have betrayed the small farmer. So have dairy industry magazines who accept millions of advertising dollars and write columns and editorials endorsing the use of the hormone now in America's milk and cheese.

You are learning that the more milk you make, the quicker prices fall. Your Basic Formula Price (BFP) is now $10.27 per hundred pounds, down about $7 from last year's high. I do not see how small farmers will remain in business.

I have been trying to tell dairymen for three years that this was the plan... get rid of the small dairyman so that only factory farm-conglomerates would be left. Everything that I have predicted is coming true and you come to me using foul language.

Perhap your venom should be directed at your industry leaders who have betrayed you.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Charles
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-16 20:59:49
Comments: You used to sound like a vegan, but you've said you don't like that word. The only vegans I know are the Peta people, and their diets are based on the *vegan* religion (all ethics, no science). I'm beginning to see a new religious sect, the Cohenists, who are alot like the vegans, but don't care about animals. They just eat the plants for the hell of it and don't realize the events of human evolution have made us the ultimate eaters - we can eat everything (our *plant based diet* relatives died out millions of years ago... the name slips me know, but I'll post it later).

I guess I've listened to a few too many scientific discussions on medicine and nutrition to believe in the Cohenistic religion.

I've read you're non-dairy challenge (don't eat any dairy for a week and then have some pizza) and tried just the opposite - lots of dairy with every meal for a week.
Let's just say that I've had a great week as far as muscle gain, and haven't had any of the symptoms Dr. Cohen said I should have. In fact, my bench press jumped from 270 to 295 over the course of the week when I had been stuck at 270~275 for a month.
Not bad, huh.

My guess is that you won't post this.
1 - I don't have email yet, and
2 - you only post anti dairy stuff and seem to censor the rest.

-Charles

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Charles,

Congratulations on your nine percent increase in strength over the past 30 days, which you attribute to milk. I agree with you...those powerful steroid hormones work and I do not want them in my children's bodies!

Let me make clear my animal/diet philosophy. I believe in compassion to people, animals and one's own body. In every case, you, the individual comes first. By eating easy-to-digest foods, your body efficiently digests its fuels. Animal proteins are more difficult to digest than plant proteins. Animal fats and animal cholesterol are big-time contributors to man's number-one killer, heart disease.

Breast milk is the best of foods for human infants. Milk is the worst of all possible foods for adults. Milk buffers gastric pH so that fats and cholesterol, hormones and allergenic proteins have little chance to be broken down into their basic components.

By being kind to animals and not eating their body parts, you are kind to your body. Do not make animals or their body fluids a regular part of your diet, and your body will thank you.

Just for the record: I agree with PETA and animal right's activists. We torture and kill 9 billion animals each year to feed America. These animals live in horrible conditions. All people should be aware of how we raise meat, and view the actual process, the crowding and butchering of chickens, pigs and calves. On one hand, we create fuzzy and cute farm animals for our children to play with and give them human features and voices so we can feel "one with nature" and watch cartoons and feature-length films. In reality, we slit their throats, then slice thin filets from their arms and legs and eat these defenseless creatures for dinner.

Tolstoy wrote a brilliant paper: "The First Step" which was his eyewitness account of the reality of Russian slaughterhouses. His essay is a compelling comentary on the lack of spirituality of man. Here is an excerpt:

Once, when walking from Moscow, I was offered a lift by some carters who were going to Serpukhov to a neighbouring forest to fetch wood. It was Thursday before Easter. I was seated in the first cart with a strong, red, coarse cartman, who evidently drank. On entering a village we saw a well-fed, naked, pink pig being dragged out of the first yard to be slaughtered. It squealed in a dreadful voice, resembling the shriek of a man. Just as we were passing they began to kill it. A man gashed its throat with a knife. The pig squealed still more loudly and piercingly, broke away from the men, and ran off covered with blood. Being near-sighted I did not see all the details. I saw only the human-looking pink body of the pig and heard its desperate squeal, but the carter saw all the details and watched closely. They caught the pig, knocked it down, and finished cutting its throat. When its squeals ceased the carter sighed heavily. `Do men really not have to answer for such things?' he said.

Tolstoy and his vegetarian followers were named, "Tolstoyans." Therefore, I proudly accept your term, "Cohenist" as it is applied to anyone who consumes no milk or dairy product.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Elyse
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NJ
Time: 1999-03-16 16:31:20
Comments: I am pasting the following from a newsgroup I belong to. We are a group of moms who practice "attached parenting" and of course our children and their health are of utmost important to us.... please read... -----Original Message----- Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 12:35 AM Subject: Someone just shoot me now... I've been doing research on an article about vaccine components [which was due 20 minutes ago, oops! It'll get done sometime in the next 24 hours, though]. Anyway... I'm ready to SCREAM!!! In everything I'd read previously [including the packaging insert], I never discovered this little fact: The Pertussis part of DTP or DTaP is grown on a medium which contains CASEIN. That's right, boys and girls, a component of... MILK!!! *ARGH* And the reason no one told me this, when we already knew my son was sensitive enough to react when I had even the tiniest bit of *any* milk component in my diet???? [Something which I'm glad he appears to be reacting to less strongly now -- I can have products with the tiniest bit of casein in them now! And even, on occassion, whey!] (note: this lady breastfeeds her baby who reacts badly if SHE consumes casein) But now I'm ticked... Maybe this is what he reacted to, and not the thimerosal? I don't know for sure, but now I'm wondering... (snip) I wouldn't discount thimerasol as something "nonharmful"...after all it does contain "mercury" in it...however...casein may be slightly more of a reactive agent to a young developing human. And since American babies are regularly injected with such heavy toxins from birth on and mostly fed a cow milk diet in the first two years...I wonder if it's the combination of both assaults containing cassein that causes the life in these little bodies to cease? Didn't Robert Cohen say in his book that they found high levels of a milk protein antibody present at death in sids babies? Well some of us moms believe that vaccines cause SIDS a convenient catch all label created by MD's for "uninvestigated" deaths... I couldn't believe it when I read Roberts book that he might be dismissing my beliefs and studies published (indirectly) that vaccines cause death in young babies... then I thought to myself...well maybe some kids react to vaccines and the others who died as well reacted to milk products...now I see from my friends research they are nearly one in the same both containing a reactive agent/allergin "CASEIN". what a discovery! Elyse, human mother to 2 "human-milk" fed human babies :)

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Elyse,

Who would ever imagine that they put a milk component CASEIN-GLUE in tuna fish (read the label) or Special 'K' cereal? Your post 'stuns' me. What is the point of adding a bovine protein to vaccines? Perhaps the author of letter #936 (the one posted before yours) would suggest that "everything in moderation" should apply to what we inject into our kid's bodies?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: steve dam
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: IL
Time: 1999-03-16 09:15:57
Comments: This is in continuation of an earlier comment which was taken out of context............................. In the Bible it also talks about moderation.. too much of almost anything is not good. I am sure that too much milk is bad for you. But too much of almost anything can be bad. If you have watched the news regularly, you have seen that some "expert" seems to find that a new food causes cancer everday. At one point eggs were the worst food now they believe it is not that bad. If i worried about every study out there on foods that are "bad" I would have a pretty boring diet w/ out the variety of foods that our body needs. Sure milk might have some negative ingredients, but how about mentioning the positives along w/ the negatives. In my studies, now in grad school, i have learned that the only good argument is one that presents both sides and lets u make an informed decision. You have clearly overemphasized the negative in order to "brainwash" everyone as u feel the dairy industry has done. I am not a nutrition expert but i have taken a few classes and feel i have a pretty good knowledge base in this area. I undersand what u are saying that there are some negative aspects to milk. But any nutrition expert (which i dont' feel u are by the way.. just a milk expert w/ tunnel vision), will tell you that a balanced diet which incorporates all food groups (including dairy) is the best diet. I will admit that most americans eat too much fat and dairy may be a cheif reason for this. That is the primary reason for many americans diseases and other ailments. we are a nation of overeaters and pooreaters. so if you want to "preach" the harm execssive dairy (fat/cholesterol) can cause that is fine w/ me and then we would both be on the same side in our battle to educate americans and help them stay healthy. but when u tell people they need to basically, eliminate one of the primary food groups.. well that really pisses me off to put it bluntly. I know a lot of people who drink lots of milk and are very healthy to an old age. Most of them also exercise regularly and do the other >things that are necessary to maintain good health. There are so many fad diets out there and so many studies which are manipulated or poorly designed but if worded properly can make people believe almost anything. What it comes down too is eat a balanced diet, exercise, and lower ur stress level.. this is the key to a healthy life .. not a guaranteee, but a key. There will always be some cases where the most healthy person gets cancer.. that is a fact of life... not a fact of too much milk!!!! >

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Steve,

You have stated that you are in graduate school, but your course of study remains a mystery. If it is Religion, then you incorrectly cite the MODERATION rule. The TEN COMMANDMENTS were not called the ten suggestions. There was no moderation rule suggested for any of the events occurring in Sodom. Dietary laws are not moderation laws. Thou shalt honor thy father and mother most of the time. Thou shalt eat pork only in Chinese restaurants. Thou shalt chow down the flesh of the young veal which has been cooked in its mother's milk only when dining fine Italian restaurants. Thou shalt eat lobster and shellfish only when in Maine (during months ending with an "r.")

If all experts agree that LDL cholesterol is the "bad kind" and that animal fats are not healthy, should we make milk, cheese and butter the major part of our diets because they taste good? Should we eat any of those substances?

If all milk products are loaded with powerful growth hormones and steroid hormones, should we take them on a daily basis? Should I take one pill containing the equivalent amount of hormones in one glass of milk? Shall I give that same pill to my nine-year old daughter because you think everything in moderation is a healthy philosophy?

I enjoy having great bowel movements. One bad sludgy-bowel movement is not my idea of fun or moderation, even though I remember how delicious pizza used to taste. Twelve hours after eating a slice of pizza you will be so affected. You'll wake up the next morning with mucus and congestion. That kind of moderation I can live without.

Many Americans take for granted the mood swings, irritibility, depression, anxiety, lethargy, poor bowel movements, congestion, asthma...all attributed to a moderate or not-so-moderate intake of milk and dairy products.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-03-15 17:08:23
Comments: I was interested to read your comments about Jesus being a vegetarian. I have recently been looking into this after reading about this on the PETA website (www.jesusveg.com). I am not a Christian myself. I believe that there is only one God who created us and all the religions we have today are all worshiping the same God but they just give Him different names (there can be only one creator surely). I do believe Jesus was the son of God though as he had true respect and compassion for all of God's creations. In the same way I also regard Buda as the son of God as well. These people were increadibly wise and compassionate and we would do well to follow their values. It always seems strange to me that Christians will happily eat the flesh of tourtured animals and call themselves compassionate people. It would be understandable to me if we had to eat meat to survive or if there was a shortage of food. Unfortunately, none of these reasons are true and in fact meat has many long term ill effects on our health. The real reason why we eat it is because we have aquired a taste for their flesh. It is sad that we will show such disrespect to God's creatures for this reason alone. Especially when not eating meat is a more healthy option. If God had intended us to eat meat then our bodies would have evolved the necessary fetures to do so (long sharp incisors, sharp claws and a killer instinct). If we had the killer instinct we would be unable to walk past a field of sheep without pouncing on one, riping its head off and gorging on its blood. Instead (I can't speak for others) I am much more likely to go "Ah, look at the baby lamb - isn't it cute". Unfortunately, well for meat eaters anyway, our bodies are very poorly adapted to a meat based diet. Our intestines are too long (meat putrifies quicky - one of the reasons we have to cook it), we don't have sufficient levels of hydrochloric acid in our stomaches to break down meat properly and our bodies can't deal with the toxins and cause long term problems such as heart desease.

It is clear that our bodies have been designed for a vegetarian diet. We can eat meat but so can pretty much any other vegetarian animal on this planet. For example, cows in Britain are fed mashed up remains of other cows and sheep - Does that make them omnivorous like us then? In fact this is how the BSE chrisis started so it just shows what can happen when you eat foods that are not designed for your body. Meat leaves us feeling lathargic. I notice this at Christmas when my family eats lots of meats and turkey etc. they become bloated and can hardly move for days. Meat is a poor substitute for the foods God intended us to eat that leave us bursting with energy and vitality - fruit and vegetables (It's no coincidence that a lot of top althletes train on a purely vegan diet for the olympic games). In Genesis 1:28 it is clear that this is what God intended us to eat:

"I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food"

If a Christian killed his pet dog and ate it this would instantly be seen as a barbaric act. Why is a dog different to any other animal? They feel pain in exactly the same way. Like all animals, dogs are part of God's creation and it is hypocritical to give them rights that we don't apply to other animals. It seems that if the torture and suffering is done convieniently behind closed doors then we can close our minds to these barbaric acts. I wonder how many Christians would be vegetarian if they had to debeak chickens without anaesthetic or slice a cow's throat open?

Going to church does not make someone a Christian in my opinion. A true Christian will show the love and compassion that Jesus showed and follow in His footsteps. It is more important to pratice Jesus's values than to turn up on a Sunday morning to sing a few hymns.

I often try to imagine Jesus in our society now. What would he think if he was inside a modern day slaughter house or factory farm? Ah, my preaching have worked? No I don't think so - I think he would be disgusted at the lack of respect shown to the pain and suffering of God's wonderful creations. It is time we respected the world God has given us rather than try to destroy it. If any Christian can honestly tell me that Jesus would walk into a factory farm and say "I like what you've done with the chickens here. Squash them into small cages to maximize profits is what God would have wanted. He created these animals for this suffering." then they can carry on eating meat. Seeing as He is the most compassionate person ever known in history, I severely doubt it.


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-03-15 10:44:23
Comments: Robert, You said "Jesus was an Essene, and was a vegetarian." What, pray tell did Jesus eat at Passover? How about fish? Aren't they considered meat? Bad enough that you can't make heads or tails out of scientific literature but now you are getting mixed up while reading the Bible? Jim

Dear Jim,

Jesus most certainly did not eat a turkey and gefilte fish, traditional foods served at many seders. There are symbolic foods on a seder plate. There is a roasted shank bone of a lamb which is never eaten. It symbolizes the sacrifices of Jesus's Jewish ancestors. Many Jews today replace this roasted shank bone with a roasted leek, out of compassion to animals. In the Talmud, Jews are instructed not to eat any roasted food on Passover to avoid any suggestion that we are actually eating the "Pesach sacrifice." There is also a roasted egg which also symbolizes the temple sacrifices and Spring, when new life is born and new plants bloom. Completing the seder plate is bitter herb (Maror) which reminds us of slavery, Charosis (chopped apples, walnuts and sweet wine) which resembles the mortar which our ancestors used to make the bricks to build Egyptian cities, salt water to remind us of tears shed, and a green vegetable (we use parsley) to remind us of Spring and renewed hope.

The Seder plate does not contain honey and NOTMILK! To remind us of a "Land flowing with milk and honey." That reference is made to a traumatic time when the first born male child would be killed by pharaoh's soldiers. The land of milk and honey would be a new life of sweetness in which there would be many children and breastfeeding mothers.

At our Passover Seder we enjoy tzimmes, barley with mushrooms, salads, vegetable soup, garlic mashed-potatoes, asparagus, lentils, and a dozen other family recipes passed down for more generations than any family member recollects. All plant-based foods.

King James re-wrote many portions of the Bible and made meat eating more respectable. When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered by a young Arab boy fifty years ago, we learned that Jesus was truly a vegetarian.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Flint Fox
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Arcadia, Ohio
Time: 1999-03-15 10:08:35
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, I know that you feel that I make too many comments at one time, so I will just ask you one question: If milk is so bad why isn't it the leading story on the 6:00 news? If this is more than "junk" science, why arn't you on 60 minutes? If you have REAL studies from REAL doctors and scientists, why aren't you on 20/20. If everyone who drinks milk or intakes dairy products in fatal risk, why are you not on DATELINE? Why isn't the leading story in NEWSWEEK "Milk and dairy products will kill you?" I know why, because you are full of Bull-shit. Thank you, Farmer Fox, the MILKMAN

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Farmer Fox,

I spent two hours taping my segment for HARD COPY, a nationally syndicated television news show. Before viewing my fifteen seconds, the network ran a DOMINO'S PIZZA advertisement. At that moment, one did not have to have a degree in dairy science or rocket science to know what was pasted together in post-production.

When NEWSWEEK reported the formation of the ANTIDAIRY Coalition they hinted that I was a bit daft for saying that the protein in milk was not good for humans.

In reality, eighty percent (80%) of milk protein is CASEIN, the same glue used to hold wood together in furniture and the same glue used to adhere a label to a bottle of beer. I said that CASEIN causes histamines to be produced in your body and histamines produce mucus. It is my position that the average American lives life with about a gallon of mucus, congesting every body organ, never aware that they walk around with an "internal fog" clouding what could be their good health.

Billions of dollars are invested in television and magazine advertisements. The whole purpose of TV is to fill time in between commercials. Milk-pustache ads fill women's magazines, accompanied by articles extolling the virtues of milk. GOT MILK? GOT CASH FLOW!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Frank
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sydney Australia
Time: 1999-03-15 10:09:36
Comments: My doctor advised me to drink goat's milk (organic, unpasteurised) because he says that soy milk is ".. a hormone imbalancer, and an enzyme inhibitor", and that goat's milk is (compared to cows' milk) far more easily digested by the human body. I know what you said about " goats' milk is fine for baby goats" etc. , but are there any particular health risks associated with drinking goats' milk ? Great site by the way. Frank

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Frank,

Goat's milk contains goat-estrogen, goat-progesterone, goat-prolactin...goat-female hormones. Soy milk contains soy-hormones. Humans have no nutritional need for either. However, if given the choice, which hormones would you have your child pour on her cereal? The ones from a plant or the ones from a mammal?

In our family, we no longer consume candy-coated factory-processed flakes of grain with any type of milk. We received one free-sample box of honey-nut flakes on Sunday morning in the newspaper and one of my daughters decided to try it. We keep rice milk handy, just for such occasions. She tasted a tablespoonful and gave it up. We dumped the rest.

We eat leftover Chinese food, fruits and vegetables for breakfast. I am answering your letter at 6:35 AM. I've already prepared the sauce for my daughter's breakfast. It took me three minutes to mince garlic and ginger,slice shitake miushrooms, cut tiny florettes from three stalks of broccoli and thinly slice carrots, on the slant. I am marinating everything in shoyu (soy), oyster sauce (made from veggies), miso (fermented soy), sesame oil, fermented black beans and water. The sauce will accompany a very fine Japanese noodle which is so thin that it will cook in about thirty seconds.

This breakfast will taste a lot better than a bowl of cereal and it is much easier for them to digest. Quick, nutritious and guaranteed to put smiles on their faces.

Regards,


Name: bird
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: brooklyn nyc
Time: 1999-03-15 09:05:40
Comments: I was very excited to see your 101 reasons to breastfeed among other things. tried to print it for my clients and it wouldn't print. any suggestions? I'm kind of new to the www. i am a midwife and will stop at nothing to get clients aware of the significance of breastfeeding - especially teenagers. signed oiseau, vegetarian since 1976

Name: Brian Minnick
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Austin, Texas
Time: 1999-03-15 02:32:06
Comments: Ya awsome i HATE MILK MILK (censored) ect. ect. (probably why i hate it is becasue i cant drink it.) Hey are you elergect to milk?

Name: Steve Dam
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Illinois
Time: 1999-03-15 02:20:36
Comments: Dear Notmilkman, I am not going to try to argue point for point w/ you about milk. obviously you have too much time on your hands... a lot more time than i do. I don't claim to be an expert on milk by any means. however, i did grow up on a dairy farm and now i am a Certified Athletic Trainer and a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist. I also am a Christian who believes that God gave us Milk, just like the other foods in other food groups for a reason, to be consumed and enjoyed.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Steve,

You write "obviously you have more time on your hands, a lot more than I do." Steve...we each have a lifetime to live, an eternity to sleep, and 24 hours each day to do what we must do, as we are so motivated.

You are a Christian and I am a Jew. You are an athlete and so am I. Having played team sports, I recognize the rule books and follow the rules. Our religions have a common rule book. The dietary rules are laid out for us. Do you practice those rules as laid out in Leviticus? Do you enjoy God's original gifts, as offered in Genesis?

If you do, and preach to me, I respect your words. God preached compassion to all animals. Jesus was an Essene, and was a vegetarian. Are you?

God did not give us cow's milk. God gave that formula to baby cows. God gave pig's milk to baby pigs, not humans. God gave ass's milk to baby asses. Do you drink donkey milk and act like an ass? Do you drink cow's milk and do likewise? Do you drink human breast milk or dog's milk? Do you imagine that is God's plan for adults?

Milk is for babes, Steve. Read Hebrews 5:13. Milk is for the unrighteous who do not know truth and who have not matured.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: What about kid
Website:
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From: New York
Time: 1999-03-13 21:51:05
Comments: I heard about your notmilk comments from natural living with Gary Null on WBAI. I am very interested in what you said about milk. You said babies need milk. How about a 3 year old kid? When do we out grow our milk? I am having a hard time to convince my husband stop taking milk and stop giving it to our 3 year old son. My husband is a pediatrician. His arguement was that kids need fat in their diet and milk provide them with a good source of that. I am also trying to feed us less meat and of course my DR. husband is rejecting this idea as well. Do you have any sugestions on what should I start feeding my son instead of milk? (soy milk does not have enough fat content for my husband's standard.) thank you

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

There are three major categories of dietary fat.

Saturated fatty acids are the kind we ingest by eating milk and dairy products, beef, pork and other animal products. The liver uses these fats to manufacture the dangerous type of cholesterol, LDL.

Polyunsaturated fats are found in fish oils and in corn, sunflower and safflower oils. Polyunsaturated fats can lower cholesterol levels, but in doing so, also lower the levels of HDL, the "good cholesterol."

Monounsaturated fats can be found in nuts, peanut oil and olive oils. We cook with, or use on salads about four different types of olive oil. These wonderful oils reduce blood levels of LDL without affecting HDL levels. Our children eat a handful of almonds every day, a fat-rich plant-based food.

Most foods contain fat. Your daily fat intake should not exceed 20 to 25% of your total calories. Fat is essential for brain development in the growing infant. After the age of two fat becomes the most efficient form of energy available to the body. When we eat more fat then we can use, we store it until that time in the future when it may be needed. Some people store more fat then they'll ever use. Do those people require a daily intake of more fat? Those are the ones who continue to "bulk up" on cheese, ice cream and butter. Combine the fat with IGF-I in milk, a powerful growth hormone, and you solve the riddle as to why Americans are overweight.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: DAIRY KID
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-13 09:43:48
Comments: MILK IS GOOD!

Name: DAIRY BOY
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-13 09:42:06
Comments: YOU ARE A (censored) PIECE OF (censored) STOP TELLING LIES YOU DIRTY (censored)! (censored) YOU!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dairy Boy,

Every sip of milk has 59 different hormones including testosterone and adrenalin. Milk also causes indigestion.

GOT TUMS? GOT PROZAC?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Matt
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: South Florida
Time: 1999-03-13 08:58:16
Comments: I buy Organic Milk, is this more safe than regular milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Matt,

Eighty percent of organic milk protein is casein, the same glue used to hold together the wood in your furniture. There are 59 different bioactive hormones in every sip of organic milk and 100 different proteins which create antibodies after they are eaten. Organic milk is naturally loaded with fat and cholesterol.

Ben and Jerry use organic milk in their ice cream. There is an enormous controversy in Vermont because the organic cows are eating a powerful insecticide on their feed which is not governed by arbitrary USDA standards.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Roy Good
Website:
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From: Harrisonburg, VA
Time: 1999-03-13 07:55:39
Comments: I have dupuytrens contracture on both hands. I drink very little milk, but I am very fond of cheese. Is there a link between the two?

Dear Roy,

I have heard of a few cases of Dupuytrens Contracture and in each case the users were also very fond of cheese. That may be nothing more than coincidence. Fact is, nobody really understands why some people are so affected. The disease begins when a small nodule grows in the connective tissue of the ring finger or pinkie. The connective tissues then form a sort of band which curls the fingers like a taut rubber band being stretched tight.

This may be a disease of circulation. I have read studies suggesting such a link. It has also been associated with diabetes and/or being overweight. There are many different contradictory studies. There may even be a genetic link. Nobody really knows.

When we enter into a discussion of the immune system, I prefer to think that every cell contributes to overall well-being. The circulatory system and the nervous system and every internal organ are connected, as are the organs which manufacture and secrete enzymes and hormones. Even fat cells are part of the complicated immune system, producing steroid hormones.

When we weaken the "immune system" with toxins, or, when we take nature's delicate balance and artificially stimulate one part of the body to act unnaturally (like taking prozac or smoking cigarettes or injecting heroin) we place the entire body in jeopardy.

We most certainly are what we eat. When we ingest 100 different proteins in one sip of milk, each one causing our systems to manufacture a different antibody, we place the entire system in jeopardy. When we ingest CASEIN, the most abundant protein in milk, we fill our lungs and organs with congesting mucus. When we take 59 different steroid hormones, and dioxins and fat and cholesterol, we do enormous cucmulative damage to the entire body.

When we eat more protein than the body needs, we create an acid condition in the blood which the body must neutralize. It does so by leeching calcium from the bones. Could the excess calcium be the seed which ends up in the extemities, beginning the process which helps that node to form? That is just one theory.

I do not know the chemical formula representing the structure of the fiber-like node which begins Dupuytrens Contracture.

I do know that 40 percent of what we eat is milk and dairy, and that cheese is a concentrated form of substances which the body has trouble tolerating.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rosie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-03-13 05:22:10
Comments: I really like dairy products but went without for a number of years. I have since gotten careless but fully agree that milk is poisen especially these days when they feed cows anitbiotics and some dairies keep them in stalls all day long etc. I believe I have always had a milk intolerance. My mom, who bottle fed us children, said I always had a runny nose. At the age of 2 my appendix ruptured (an abcess formed). Obviously my life was spared but not withouts its problems. Cysts grew on my ovaries - in late 20's I had to have a total hysterectomy and have no biological children. My husband learned while taking nursing that 100% of woman who have had ruptured appendix are steril. Well, I blame milk as the very root of it all! I sometimes eat things with milk in them as it gets so frustrating when you eat our or at potlucks or someone elses house to have to worry about it. I always take a milk digestant pill of some sort otherwise I get mucus, and headachs etc.etc. Yes, I totally agree milk is poisen - I've got to STOP eating dairy just because it tastes good! Keep up the good work!

Name: Mike Smulevitch
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From: Texas
Time: 1999-03-12 23:23:15
Comments: I like milk

Name: Flint Fox
Website:
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From: Arcadia, Ohio
Time: 1999-03-12 21:12:07
Comments: Dear Robert Cohn. Wow, you must be the smartest man alive! Even though the medical examiners could not determine the what the exact cause of Flo Jo's death was, YOU DID. And now even though governmental Statatiticians could not figure out why asthma had doubled, YOU DID. Wow! I do not believe that you are an expert in those areas. However to your credit, you are a master of words. Just like every other fanatic and radicalist, you can twist any thing around with words to achieve your misleadings. The Harvard Study. This is the perfect example of your uninformed word twisting. The Harvard study DID NOT conclude that dairy products weaken bones and actually cause fractures! What it said was that dairy products MIGHT not be as effective in preventing these bone fractures. I doubt you even read that study. You speak often about Casein, do you know the two kinds of casein, and the differences that there are in milk. Yes there are two kinds of Casein present, and for you to generalize casein as "a bad protein" shows just how ignorant you are to the REAL facts. Are you aware that Casein is found in women's breast milk, so explain to me why all babies that are being nursed don't die! Thank you, THE MILKMAN, farmer fox

Dear Farmer Fox,

In answer to your first comment, no, I do not consider myself to be the smartest man alive.

In answer to you eleventh comment, and question (did I know that there are actually two types of casein?)...I am aware of Alpha-s1-casein, Alpha-s2-casein, Beta-casein, Gamma-casein and Sigma-casein. There might be more, but I do not pretend to know it all.

I never claimed that casein in human breast milk was inappropriate for baby humans. The proportion of casein in cow's milk is triple that of human breast milk.

Casein protects immunoglobulins and lactoferrins in the baby's stomach. The acid of an infant's stomach is similar to the acid level in an adult's stomach. The mechanism by which gastric pH is raised (to neutralize the acid) insures that these beneficial substnces perform their jobs of providing nourishment to the infant.

That same mechanism should not be occurring in the adult body, particularly when other foods are combined with lactate fluids. Adult humans should not drink human breast milk. Instinctively, they know enough not to. However, they have sacrificed their logic and reason to dairy industry brainwashing by drinking the milk from other species of animals.

As to the bone study, let again show you what I wrote in the column of March 7, 1999:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/030799.html

The study found "no significant association" between teenaged milk consumption and the risk of adult fractures. Data from the study indicate that frequent milk consumption and higher dietary calcium intakes in middle aged women do not provide protection against hip or forearm fractures.

In the Harvard study, women consuming greater amounts of calcium from dairy foods had significantly INCREASED risks of hip fractures, while no increase in fracture risk was observed for the same levels of calcium from nondairy sources.

What part of "women consuming greater amounts of calcium from dairy foods had significantly INCREASED risks of hip fractures" are you having difficulty accepting? Is a study containing data from 78,000 subjects not good enough for a dairy scientist/farmer from Ohio State University?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: chuck
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ri dairy farm
Time: 1999-03-12 20:34:46
Comments: (censored)YOU

Name: Ghidora
Website:
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From:
Time: 1999-03-12 03:18:40
Comments: I hope that everyone here is aware that humans are mammals, and that female humans produce milk. Claiming that milk causes breast cancer is particularly ironic considering that breasts are a souce of milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Ghidora,

What is good for the goose...might not be good for the gosling...or the gander. I know of no species of animal in which the nursing female drinks her own breast milk.

That milk contains powerful growth hormones which nurture and nourish an infant's growth. Baby cows are supposed to gain 500 pounds in six months and baby humans are designed so that they double their weight in about four months.

Such rapid growth is appropriate for infants, not so for adults. Cancer is very common, but usually controlled. Nearly forty percent of women between the ages of forty and fifty have breast cancer...usually controlled and not growing. (NY Times, 11/8/94, pC1)

Infants do not usually have cancers in their bodies.

One hormone in cow's milk, IGF-I, is identical to the most powerful growth hormone in the human body, a hormone identified as being the key factor in every human cancer. I do not believe it to be wise that you would knowingly ingest that hormone. American women have been brainwashed into believing that milk does the body good. Milk is a recipe for bone disease and cancer. Last week's antidairy column exposed the bone disease myth. This Sunday's column will expose the cancer myth. Both studies, part of the Harvard University Nurse study (124,000 subjects) contradict the brainwashing efforts of America's dairy industry.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sita Murali
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: India
Time: 1999-03-11 18:49:57
Comments: I agree, that human herbivores should not be labelled with any "v" words, since this is our natural and healthiest diet, right?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sita,

Tonight it will take 5 minutes to cut up the ingredients for our family salad. We shall mince, dice and shred the following ingredients:

1) lettuce 2)tomatoes 3)avocado 5) green olives 6) chick peas 7) artichoke hearts 8) marinated mushrooms 9) red pepper 10) yellow pepper 11) green pepper 12) parsley 13) cabbage 14) radishes 15) celery 16) carrots 17) zucchini 18) shallots 19) kale 20) broccoli 21) cauliflower 22) juice of a lemon 23) walnut oil 24) Balsamic vinegar

That salad, served in any restaurant, would be forever remembered. It should cost us about 80 cents per person and we'll dine on variations of the basic formula every day this week. What is left over from the night before is happily gobbled up for breakfast...first come, first served.

In our pantry are long rained and short grained white rices, long and short grained brown rices, Basmati rice, Japanese rice, and a tiny rice needing only ten minutes to steam. There are Jasmine rices and two different style of wild rice. We have amaranth and millet, cous-cous and buckwheat, whole wheat berries and kasha, barley and rye. We have at least twenty different beans and rice, amaranth, spinach and different wheat pastas. In the refrigerator are three different types of misos and sesame oils, fermented black beans, two types or garlic and fresh ginger.

Tonight we will cook a Basmati rice, flavored with miso and saffron.

I have large portabello mushrooms marinating in a very fine fermented shoyu (soy sauce) with thin slices of garlic and ginger permeating its layers.

There are two quarts of strawberries ready to be eaten for dessert, as our family sits and each member reviews the highlights of his or her day.

My three daughters stuff themselves, then eat again an hour later. How do they consume so much food and remain so slim? They eat no cheese and drink no milk containing growth hormones. They deliver calcium and magnesium and other nutrients to their bodies...essential oils and enzymes which keep their bones strong and their bodies healthy.

We eat no animal flesh which requires digestive systems to work late into the night. We wake up with no mucus and rarely become sick with colds that plague others. The allergies which once affected us; they've "mysteriously" gone...after we converted to diet of fruits, vegetables, grains and legumes.

A plant-based diet is both easy to prepare, economical, and contains many more choices than the typical American meal. The regimen is easier on one's body, easier on the environment and it certainly is the compassionate thing to do in a world in which billions of animals die each year suffering horrible pain at the point of a sharp knife...traumatized and tortured as they live and grow to feed us and then ultimately stress our own systems.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: June Cleeland
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-03-11 09:10:49
Comments: It's a fact that women in Japan have such a low incidence of breast cancer because they ingest mostly soy products. In the west we women are constantly informed that dairy is good for everything from our bones to our teeth. I believe, without a doubt, that research (hopefully NOT on animals) will show, conclusively, that breast cancer is due to the consumption of dairy. Ask any woman does she know of another woman who's suffering with or who has died from breast cancer and the answer will be affirmative. Ladies - let's get on the soy products and stick to it - our lives depend on not believing what big corporations, who are making VERY big bucks, tell us about their product. DAIRY IS A DUD.

Name: hallie
Website:
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From:
Time: 1999-03-11 04:04:29
Comments: This comment is in response to Chris Ruffs message, in which he stated that soy beans contain phytates which can inhibit that absoption of important minerals. It is true that soybeans contain phytates, but so do most whole grains and beans. The effectiveness of phytates is determined through cooking methods, in the production of soy milk, beans are soaked overnight or longer. Soaking and roasting are two common methods which decrease the presence of phytates and increase the absorption of minerals.

Name: David Griffiths
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Phoenixville,PA
Time: 1999-03-10 23:54:06
Comments: I saw Robert speak with Sally Fallon, Sunday March 7, 1999. I was struck by the fact that Sally understood exactly where Robert was coming from, yet, Robert couldn't seem to "get" Sally's approach to the milk problem. I would suggest that Mr. Cohen could learn alot from the Price-Pottinger Inst. Which is not to say that his current work is not very valuable! NOTMILK represents a perfectly logical approach to the mess modern farming, processing and distribution has made of the wonderful cow and her healthful milk!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear David,

I enjoyed speaking last Sunday in front of a few hundred very passionate Pennsylvanians who wish to learn more about health issues. I was very impressed by the audience.

Sally Fallon is waging a campaign against the milk most American's drink, claiming that today's milk and dairy products come from "pituitary freaks." I agree with Sally.

Sally eloquently writes:

"Pasteurization destroys enzymes, diminishes vitamin content, denatures fragile milk proteins, alters vitamin B12, destroys vitamin B6, kills beneficial bacteria, promotes pathogens and is associated with allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer. Raw milk sours naturally but pasteurized milk turns putrid and processors must remove slime and pus from pasteurized milk by a process of centrifugal clarification."

Although our meeting was officially billed as a debate, Sally and I had much to agree upon. However, Sally believes that unpasteurized milk from Jersey and Guernsey cows (NOT HOLSTEINS!) is safe for humans to drink. This is where we disagree. My position is that the healthiest milk from the healthiest cow contains 59 different hormones, 100 proteins that create the production of antibodies, lactose sugar which is next-to impossible to digest by most humans, fat, cholesterol, immunoglobulins and lactoferrins best reserved for the cow's infant.

Sally's WEBSITE:

http://www.realmilk.com

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Robert Ashley Martin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: San Mateo, CA
Time: 1999-03-10 18:05:33
Comments: When whey is listed in the list of ingredients on a vegetarian food how concerned should I be?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Robert,

Vegans would say "no way!" Whether the reason for your vegetarianism is based upon compassion to animals or compassion to your own stomach, there is no reason to want whey proteins in your body.

After the fat and casein (the most abundant protein) are removed from milk, the remaining liquid (whey) is rich in lactose, a sugar which most people have trouble tolerating. What also remains is the second-most abundant milk protein, lactalbumin. Exposure to lactalbumin has been linked to diabetes. This protein is "foreign" to the human body and acts like an antigen. We produce antibodies to its presence. When the water is removed from the "whey liquid," the remaining "whey powder" contains lactose, albumin, immunoglobulins, lactoferrins and lactalbumins which are now in an extremely concentrated form.

Lactalbumin resembles the cells of the pancreas (beta cells in the Isles of Langarhans) which manufacture insulin. After eating whey protein, the body creates antibodies which neutralize the lactalbumin, then turn upon its own beta cells in an autoimmune response. Read more details about the etiology of diabetes and the dairy connection:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Chris Ruff
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-09 19:40:12
Comments: Well well. Another screaming Web page full of one-sided opinions from a few, and I mean a few, doctors here and there. I simply went looking for information on how to find milk from cows not treated with gBHT and I find my first hit to be this obnoxiously loud web site full of one-sided research and opionion, using too many exclamation points, and far too may fonts and colors. Unprofessional would be an understatement. I could come up with just as many articles supporting why milk is a worthwhile addition to the daily diet if the average person, specifically children. Switch to Soy milk? Well, here you have pesticides, as in all our foods. Soy has phytates, an organic acid which shows evidence of blocking uptake of minerals in the intestinal tract. This, of course, could have serious implication to a growing childs physical development. There is also some evidence that the uptake of protein is less efficient from soy than dairy. I will not list a bunch of studies supporting just this one issue and one side of an issue. Still a lot of study required before I could be informed enough to have an opinion as strong as "The No Milkman". Get our protein, or more importantly children's protein requirement, from other sources? Again, soy products. See above. Here is a guy who fully supports long term breastfeeding. The key word here is "guy". There are so many reasons why a woman may not choose to do so, or be able to do so, I will not waste your time. Anyone who follows any scientific study will know that there is a lot of information to digest. The issue of gBHT in milk does raise reasonable concern. That is why I am looking for a way to bring milk products without it into my son's diet. The majority of the information on this site is not scientifically validated. If the studies do exist, they should be posted in detail so people who make decisions through intellectual reasoning as opposed to emotional guesswork can gain some value from it.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Chris,

You are here for the same reason I began my investigation into the milk controversy in 1994. It is about our children, and their safety.

There is an enormous amount of science on the NOTMILK site. Why not begin by reviewing chapter III of my book. This includes the landmark paper on the rbGH (recombinant bovine growth hormone) controversy. This link contains the original SCIENCE paper and my comments about the greatest fraud in scientific history. The file contains over 17,000 words, and prints out to about 42 pages.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/chapt3.html

Each week I write a column for the ANTIDAIRY Coalition. Last Sunday (March 7, 1999) the subject was bone disease.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/030799.html

This year I have discussed milk hormones:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/013199.html

and diabetes:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html

Last year I wrote about asthma:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/111598.html

and colon cancer:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/101198.html

There are hundreds of scientific studies on this site. It's not all about "fonts and colors" and it's certainly not about milk moustaches...It is about NOTMILK.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-03-09 09:20:03
Comments: Robert, POSSIBLE BREAST CARCINOGEN FOUND IN HUMAN MILK Environmental pollutants known to cause cancer in rat mammary tissues are present in human breast milk, according to scientists in Canada. It is the first time that aromatic amines (AAs), which are used in many industrial processes, have been detected in human milk. Researchers are not yet sure of the implications of the finding, saying it needs further investigation. But they expressed concern that the substances may be a cause of breast cancer as well as a risk to nursing infants. They stressed that the nutritional benefits of breastfeeding still outweigh the risks. The finding was published in the December 21, 1998, issue of Chemical Research in Toxicology. "Chronic exposure of the general population to AAs is a matter of public health importance," wrote P. David Josephy and Lillian DeBruin from the University of Guelph, along with Janusz B. Pawliszyn at the University of Waterloo. "The presence of AAs in human milk implies that breast ductal epithelial cells, the target of mammary carcinogens, are also exposed." AAs are used in the production of plastics, dyes, pesticides, and pharmaceuticals. Environmental sources for AAs include in industrial waste, air and water pollution, tobacco smoke, and some foods. The study tested milk samples from 31 lactating mothers living near Guelph in Ontario, none of whom reported occupational exposure to AAs. All of the samples contained levels of AAs ranging from less than 0.01 to 7.44 parts per billion. Surprisingly, levels did not vary between smokers and non-smokers. Finding one particular AA, o-toluidine, may be of special significance because it is known to induce mammary tumors in female rats. "We need to discover the major sources of these exposures," said Josephy. "Control of such exposures might ultimately help to lessen breast cancer risk, and possibly the risk of some other cancers." Also troubling is the possibility that infants are being exposed to carcinogens through breast milk. However, Josephy adamantly added, "Our results should in no way be taken to discourage breastfeeding, which has great health benefits for babies regardless of these trace contaminants." The scientists plan to broaden their research to include women in other geographical areas. Previous studies have shown large variations in the breast cancer incidence, with especially high rates in the industrialized northeastern United States. This research was supported by the Canadian Breast Cancer Foundation.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

Women's breasts have become toxic waste dump sites for DEP and FDA-approved toxins. This is why a nursing mother should take great care in what she eats and passes on to her infant. According to the World Health Organization, most of the dioxins entering our bodies come from milk and meat. These aromatic amines that you report are contained in the air we breathe. Cows breathe the same air. When we eat their flesh and drink their body fluids we ingest increased and concentrated amounts of these dangerous toxins. Breastfeeding mothers should therefore eat a plant-based diet. Thanks for pointing this out, Jim.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: lisa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: california
Time: 1999-03-09 06:39:39
Comments: HI! i am looking for some disturbing pictures of what the dairy industry does to cows in milk production to get a point across in an upcoming school report on why VEGAN lifestyle is the only way to go!!....im having trouble...if anyone knows of any site with some convincing pictures please let me know...thanks for you help. sweetjane_@hotmail.com

Dear Lisa,

Mammals are only able to produce milk if they are impregnated and give bith to their young. Farmers steal their infants, then put them in wooden pens where they have no room to exercise. When it is time to die, the death is a terrifying and painful one.

http://www.britishmeat.co.uk/veal.html

Farm sanctuary rescues cows that are intended for Burger King. When you bite into that sesame seed bun with special sauce consider that no part of the animal is wasted. When a cow is no longer able to produce milk...long after her udders have had their last case of painful-stressed mastitis, she is "culled" from the herd and slaughtered.

http://www.farmsanctuary.org/campaign/camp2.htm

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) distributes a graphically violent tape which shows the reality of modern farming. You would certainly bring disgust to your teacher and friends by showing that tape and possibly get into trouble for having people see the truth about the foods we eat. WARNING: Do not show the movie after lunch.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Joanne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-09 06:05:09
Comments: Rob: I hate to beat a dead cow, but you still haven't addressed my question from original message, which was: why the increase in casein-caused/aggravated illnesses (prostate & breast cancers, after decades of milk drinking? Is it the skim and low fat milk consumption increase, which has more casein to replace the fat??? Also, I have a similar experience to Katie. After 3 + weeks of no dairy, my face is thinner too and I feel fantastic. Thanks again. Joanne

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Joanne,

In 1979, 2,598 people died of asthma, according to the American Lung Association. By 1994 that number had more than doubled to 5,487 deaths. I blame asthma on CASEIN, the tenacious glue which causes histamines, then mucus, then the bronchioles of the lungs to become clogged.

Government statiticians have no clue why the rate doubled, claiming that there was no change in the average diet during that fifteen year period. I have discovered such a change.

The dairy industry has been promoting low fat or non-fat milk which was once fed to swine. Americans have changed their diets and in doing so, have brought upon themselves more illness. It's all about casein.

Low fat or no-fat milk has higher amounts of PROTEIN. Eighty-percent of milk protein iS CASEIN. In 1979, the average American drank 149.3 pounds of whole milk and 75.8 pounds of low fat milk. By 1994, those numbers were literally reversed. In 1994, the average American drank 75.8 pounds of whole milk and 124.4 pounds of low-fat or no-fat milk.

On January 12, 1997, US NEWS AND WORLD REPORTS revealed that death rates from asthma had risen fastest for African-Americans. iN 1996 usda began including free dairy-based breakfasts to children living below the poverty level. In New York city there are 500,000 kids with asthma, mostly African-American and Latin-American kids who naively consume a protein that causes this problem. I trust that this answers your question. I have included a complete analyses on page 271 of my book, MILK-The Deadly Poison.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jana McCarthy
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Southern CA
Time: 1999-03-09 05:59:03
Comments: Dear Notmilkman, I was telling my mom about this webpage and she was a little upset.She was raised on a farm in upstate New York,the daughter of Italian immigrant parents. She drank a lot of milk, as did her brothers and sisters (she's the oldest of 10.) Just recently she was diagnosed with osteoporosis and her doctor wants her to take a drug called Fossamax (not sure of spelling.) She won't because one of the side effects is swallowing difficulties and she had an oral thrush problem for a year from taking steroids for an arthritic problem. My question: besides weight bearing exercise, is there any help for the elderly (she's 83) who have osteoporosis? And one more thing, how about the connection between dairy consumption and thrush?Jana

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jana,

A friend's mother is currently taking Fosamax and the results have been miraculous. I have never seen the pill but know that she takes one each day in a large glass of water. Perhaps she can grind the pill in a mortar and pestle. She should discuss this with her doctor and pharmacist. Fosamax is being touted as a miracle drug. Experts say that it does more than just prevent bone loss. It might very well rebuild portions of bone tissue that had previously been depleted.

Thrush is a fungal infection and infections of this type quite often occur to people with weakened immune systems. Fungi thrive on sugar so that would be something your mom should immediately eliminate from her diet. Cultures of fungi also love mucus. Any food that is mucus-forming should also be eliminated. Milk, cheese, yogurt...OUT!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Katie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-03-09 02:04:52
Comments:

Robert,

One more thing. Is the casein protein only found in dairy products, or can it be found in other foods?

My boyfriend is convinced that casein protein is not only in milk, but in some vegetables. I disagree.

Who's right?

~Katie

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Katie,

Casein represents 80% of all protein in milk. It's comprised of three components, alpha, beta and gamma casein. Casein is an animal protein, not a plant protein. After casein and fat are removed from milk the resulting liquid is known as whey. No way casein is found in plants...perhaps milkweed.

Sometimes you see sodium on a food label. Sodium caseinate is made by combining casein with sodium hydroxide. Sometimes casein is used to make plastic. Casein is mixed with dyes and heated to 180 degrees, then pressed into sheets of plastic. This plastic is then used in the manufacture of buttons, belt buckles and costume jewelry.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Katie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-03-09 01:39:12
Comments:

Robert,

Wow! I'm a believer!

I have been off of milk and all dairy products (and religiously reading labels) for seven days now, and I feel GREAT!

You had mentioned that after five days I should eat some pizza to see how cruddy I would feel. Well, frankly, I don't want to feel cruddy, because I feel too good!

This past week when looking up "casein" I found this: http://www.casein.com/caseinates.html

It stated that it's the composition of the amino acids within the protein that provides its nutritional value. Though in common usage, vegetable proteins generally have much less nutritional value than animal origin proteins: meat, eggs and milk. Sodium Caseinate is an animal protein. As such, Sodium Caseinate contains the essential eight amino acids considered to be the daily standard requirements for living.

Daily standard for who? Cows, perhaps? What do these people consider "nutrition" to be?

I also found this definition of casein on www.epicurious.com: casein [KAY-seen; KAY-see-ihn] The prinicipal protein in milk, which coagulates with the addition of RENNIN and is the foundation for cheese. Casein is also used in the production of nonfood items such as adhesives, paints and plastics.

Mmmmmm... the thought of consuming something that's used in adhesives, paints, and plastics, sounds so yummy doesn't it?

I also wanted to share that after just a mere seven days how much my body has changed already. My face looks thinner. I've already lost inches in my "trouble spots" (tummy, hips, butt, thighs). My skin is softer and appears to be smoother. The mild acne I had on my face and back that has been troubling me for years now is nearly gone!

I knew that over time my body would change, but I never realized that these external changes would immediately take place. I'm so pleased! I can hardly wait to see what my body will look like after a month of no dairy!

Not Milk. YES!

~Katie


Name: Jana McCarthy
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Southern California
Time: 1999-03-08 21:07:44
Comments: Dear Notmilkman, This is a wonderful site! I am a nurse, childbirth educator and lactation consultant. I work with lots of breastfeeding babies who are sensitive to cow's milk. Here are some of the symptoms of sensitivity: baby's hair stands straight out from his/her head, latch problems, rash (especially on face), crying and fussiness (about 20 minutes after a feeding), poor sleeping, and hiccups (if babies in utero hiccup alot, try cutting down on dairy). These problems go away if mom just cuts dairy out of her diet. If there is a history of allergies in the family, she may need to cut other things as well, but dairy is the biggest offender. It makes me sad when I tell a mom that she needs to try cutting dairy out of her diet and she says she'll just have to stop breastfeeding and give the baby formula. Most formulas are made from cow's milk! And fully half the people who are sensitive to dairy are sensitive to soy! So that let's out soy formulas. The hydrolyzed protein formulas are expensive: they can cost up to $600 per month. I guess I've lectured enough. Thanks for letting me have my say! Oh, by the way, I'm also the mother of eight (breastfed!) children. Jana McCarthy

Name: Sita Murali
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: India
Time: 1999-03-08 03:40:15
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen,I'm a vegan and haven't had any dairy products in almost 1.5 years. I really love your organisation and I'm shocked at the lies some people tell in the guestbook to cover up for their selfish milk-drinking habits. I'm just curious, are you a vegan or do you just not drink milk? Because a lot of the things you say about dairy (i.e. hormones, fat) apply to meat as well.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sita,

I hate the "V" words. I eat nothing with a face. I do not drink body fluids from living creatures, nor do I eat their unborn young (eggs). I eat a plant-based diet.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: JZicherman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-07 20:53:06
Comments: Rob: thanks for your answer, but you forgot to address two other points. One was the question regarding how to explain the recent increase of certain cancer rates and the other was MSG. Is MSG a form of casein??? Thanks again,notmilk woman

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

MSG contains "glutamate," a form of glutamine, an amino acid. The average American eats six grams of "food additives" each day including stabilizers, food colors, artificial sweeteners and other substances that add no nutritional value to food. Aspartame (NutraSweet) contains another amino acid, aspartic acid, which works in a similar fashion, causing a multitude of symptoms to its users.

Russell Blaylock, MD, calls these ingested amino acids: "EXCITOTOXINS." Dr. Blaylock, a neurologist, has attributed these neurotoxins in our food to an increase in brain tumors, Parkinson's disease, migraine headaches and other ailments.

Casein is a milk protein, representing eighty percent of all protein in cow's milk. Many people blame their "milk problems" on the inability to process lactose. Casein is the real culprit. The dairy industry promotes LACTAID as an alternative antidote for lactose problems. However, they are unable to take the casein out of milk. Casein is a tenacious glue and powerful allergin, causing the production of histamines which create mucus and congestion.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: J. Zicherman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-03-07 11:53:44
Comments: Hi again. 3 weeks of casein-free eating and I feel like a new person. However, last night my take-out Chinese food brought back my old symptoms. They'd promised me they don't use MSG -- but if there WAS MSG, could that have been the culprit?? Or do you think casein is used in that glutinous sauce in my sweet & sour shrimp? Or the breading on the shrimp? I really want your opinion because the restaurant doesn't have a clue and I love Chinese food and want to avoid any casein encounters in the future. Also, as I spread the anti-dairy word, a common question is: why is milk causing these cancers now? Where were all the breast & prostate cancers years ago when people drank as much milk? Rob, is the answer that we're drinking more skim/light milk now, which has more casein (to replace the fat)? And...my mother-in-law's nursing home and hospital (she goes back and forth)are feeding her some kind of liquid through IV diet that contains...how horrifying: potassium CASEINATE!!! When I saw this ingredient on the IV bag, I almost died. No wonder she never improves. I spoke to her doctor who needed to be enlightened so I sent him a packet of anti-dairy material. But even if he is convinced there's something to it, he said he didn't think there's an alternative either at the nursing home OR the hospital. Do you know anything about this?? I'm so afraid now, with my severe casein allergy, that someday I'll end up in a facility that pumps casein into me and I'll be too out of it to know. Please advise.... thanks.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I love Chinese food! It is my cuisine of choice. The wondeful thing about Chinese cooking is how they make vegetables so deliciously appetizing. The horrible thing about most American/Chines restaurants is how they prepare their foods. Watch a Chinese restaurant in operation and you will undertand how unhealthy food can really be. They chop each piece of meat and each veggie into bite-sized portions. They incrase the surface area of each food particle. They slice bok choy and carrots on the slant and chicken in long thin strips.

THEY THEN DEEP FRY EVERYTHING IN SATURATED OIL. Every surfave of every bit of food, deep fried in fat. That all goes into your stomach and your body now has to deal with a very difficult job.

Casein causes the production of histamines. So does any antigen. Tree pollins and cat dander, spores and skin mites... and tummies filled with oil. Your body in its wisdom reacts the same way.

The coating for batter-fried dishes is corn starch-based and should not contain casein. Chinese restaurant food tastes unique because of the QUICK-COOK techniques applied by cooking everything in deep oil at extremely high temperatures.

The IV bag information comes as a complete surprise to me. You should contact the pharmaceutical manufacturer for alternatives. This is astounding information. Please give me more details and I'll try to help.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Flint Fox
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Arcadia, Ohio
Time: 1999-03-07 09:51:02
Comments: Dear Notmilk I am a dairy producer and have several comments for you. First, I am outraged at this organization for using the death of a great athlete and a great American (Flo Jo) for your own personal gain. Her death is a tradgety for all to mourn, not take advantage of. There is not "proof" given in this so-call autopsy that holds the dairy industry responsible for her death. The only reason that her memory is being disgraced in this nature is because she appeared in an add for milk. If she had not done this add, the memory of the greatest female American athlete would not be subjected to this terrible lie. When you accuse the dairy industry of "brain washing" a mirror needs to be set forth, this is nothing more than uninformed one sided bashing of one of the hardest working industries in America. You are no better than Oprah's comment of BSE in hamburgers. I have read many of the comments made from the readers, and no educated responses have been given. None that can be backed with scientific, solid proof. These good people deserve to be lied to by you or anyone else! Thank you Flint Fox

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT

Dear Farmer Fox,

I am equally outraged. The dairy industry USED Flo Jo, just as it uses African-American athletes, models and "role-models" to ignorantly betray people of their own race. Ninety-five percent of African-Americans cannot tolerate lactose. Can I forgive Spike Lee for wearing his milk pustache?

African American kids living below the poverty level get the "benefit" of free breakfast and lunch and snacks in America's schools. This so-called benefit enslaves them. They receive your POISON three times each day. Eighty percent of milk protein is CASEIN, a powerful mucus-forming allergin.

It is no coincidence that 500,000 children in New York City schools receiving overdoses of Casein have trouble breathing. GOT MILK? GOT ASTHMA. I welcome an investigation of Flo Jo's death. The coronor ruled out death by asthma because he did not know that Flo Jo was an asthmatic, despite the fact that any track and field fan (myself included) knew this unfortunate fact of life.

Her death was a tragedy and it teaches us many things. One thing is the fact that PIZZA remains in the stomach fifteen hours after it is consumed. The CAESIN from that mozzerella cheese causes histamines to be produced. In fact, Flo Jo had one drug in her body, Benadryl, an anti-histamine.

She knew that she was congested, even though the medical examiner seemed to have missed the connection. Her organs were acutely congested with mucus. Read the autopsy and mourn for the victim. Demand justice! Her killer was the industry who deceived her, just as it deceives millions of Americans.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/111598.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: CAROL RIMESSO
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NY,NY
Time: 1999-03-07 09:04:04
Comments: I HAVE BREASTFED BOTH MY CHILDREN, MY OLDEST IS NOW 16 MY YOUNGER, 11. MY OLDEST HAS SEVERE ASTHMA WHICH HE DEVELOPED BEFORE HE WAS 2. HOWEVER, DOCTORS HAVE TOLD ME THAT IF HE WAS FORMULA FED HE WOULD HAVE HAD ASTHMA IN HIS MONTHS. WHEN I WAS PREGNANT TO MY SECOND SON, OUR ALLERGIST SUGGESTED THAT I NOT EAT OR DRINK DAIRY IN MY LAST THREE MONTHS OF PREGNANCY. HE HAS HAD BOUTS OF BRONCHITIS, ECZEMA BUT NO ASTHMA AS OF YET. I RECOMMEND BREASTFEEDING IF NOT FOR THE BENEFITS THEN JUST FOR THE CLOSENESS YOU HAVE WITH YOUR BABY. ONE QUESTION, HOW GOOD IS RICE OR SOY MILK FOR YOU?

Name: Lori
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: new york
Time: 1999-03-06 11:29:58
Comments: I agree with your argument about increased consumption of milk, however, I am concerned that when people stop drinking milk, they will not be able to obtain the RDI for Calcium. This will further promote the deterioration of bone mass and osteoporosis. Milk substitutes such as soymilk, rice milk, and almond milk do not have as much calcium as regular milk. How would you suggest the typical american receive enough calcium without the use of supplements because they aren't absorbed as readily as calcium from whole foods? Personally I am not a big fan of milk. In fact, I drink milk on a rare occasion, and when I do drink it, I drink skim milk. My view,is anything in moderation is ok, but increased consumption of anything can be harmful. Please respond to the above question. Thank you!

Dear Lori,

Milk consumption is the major reason 40 million American women have bone disease. PROTEIN creates an acid condition in the blood which the body neutralizes by leeching calcium from its bones.

Nations in which milk and dairy consumption is high have equally high rates of osteoporosis. Nations in which dairy consumption is low have little or no bone disease. Consider milk to be a liquid-form of meat. It is very high in a difficult-to-digest PROTEIN called CASEIN. (Casein is the glue used to hold together the wood in your furniture and to hold a label to a bottle of beer). Eighty percent of the protein in milk is CASEIN.

The 3/7/99 ANTIDAIRY Coalition column features a study... make that: THE STUDY on bone disease. Seventy-seven thousand women participated in this study and it was found that women who drank a lot of milk in their youth had a higher incidence of bone fractures in older age.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/030799.html

The dairy industry can run from the truth, but they cannot hide. They can place hundreds of millions of dollars in brainwashing advertisements, but if you swallow their lies and swallow their milk you will be a candidate for bone disease.

Foods are loaded with calcium. Last year I wrote a calcium column and include a list comparing calcium values of 50+ foods to the amount of calcium in human breast milk. I use human breast milk as the standard because we were not meant to have bone structures like cows which support weights of 1,200 pounds.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/092098.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dominique
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Time: 1999-03-06 02:25:03
Comments: Altought Casein might be found in furniture glue, I would like to remind you that flour and water form togeter an excellent glue. But is flour and water toxic? NO!! Are there any scientific papers which have proven the dange- rous effect of casein? If so can you forward them to me. (D) Secondly, cholesterol is essential for life the fact that we consume 152mg of cholesterol a day is a useless fact because it is out of context. You neglected to include the fact that our body metabolizes cholesterol for the synthesis of several numerours hormones and is important in cell membrane fluidity. I challenge you to stop eating cholesterol and see if you don't wind up in a hospital!!! In fact, the fact that this web page remains in cyberspace and not on the evening news is because you are regarded as a bunch of uninformed individuals! I challenge you to post this on the front of your main page without editing it. (H) D&H.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dominique,

Cholesterol is actually a steroid with an attached sugar. The liver produces about 80 percent of the cholesterol found in the average human body, the remaining 20 percent comes from dietary sources.

There are two types of cholesterol; Low density lipoproteins (LDL) and high density lipoproteins (HDL). LDLs are usually referred to as the "bad cholesterol." The LDLs can form plaques which adhere to arterial walls and eventually become responsible for America's number one killer, heart disease.

People with high LDL levels and low HDL levels are candidates for heart disease. Therefore, total cholesterol level can be misleading. For example, if you have a cholesterol level of 200 with an HDL of 130 and an LDL of 70 you are at a very low risk for a heart attack. Reverse those readings and you would be at high risk.

LDLs are dangerous and every medical and scientific group including the United States Department of Agriculture, has alerted us to lower the intake of animal products containing these harmful LDLs. Milk is nothing more than liquid meat. Cheese and ice cream are concentrated forms of milk containing enormous amounts of animal fats and LDL cholesterol.

Milk buffers gastric pH so that the cholesterol passes through the stomach, intact. The same cholesterol contained in eggs would be partially broken down by gastric enzymatic activity.

As for the glue: Flour and water, bread and cake are broken down in the stomach into their basic components. CASEIN was designed so that it would act as a protective mechanism for lactoferrins, immunoglobulins and protein hormones in milk. Milk first buffers gastric pH so that the total stomach environment becomes less acidic. Powerful acid would break down the flour and water and not break down the CASEIN because of the buffering affect. Two Connecticut cardiologists (Oster and Ross) determined that these substances survive digestion. I have written about their work in MILK-The Deadly Poison. I would be happy to provide you with references to their publications.

Two British scientists, Mepham and Playford have published such evidence in THE LANCET, a British Medical Journal. A MEDLINE review should provide those references for you. Should you be unable to find them, you may FAX a request to my office: 201-871-9304. Please feel free to review Homogenization's role in safeguarding CASEIN and cholesterol so that each harmful product survives digestive processes:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/022199.html

After writing that column, a reader pointed out the work of John McDougall, MD. I have attached that letter at the conclusion of my column. That information so contained adds a new and important perspective to understanding the dangers of dietary animal fats and cholesterol.

As for your challenge to not eat cholesterol (or I will end up in a hospital...) The only way I can respond to you is by telling you that I eat no cholesterol, as I do not eat anything with a face. Nor do I drink body fluids from animals. Gandhi and Tolstoy, Plato and Buddha, Lao Tzu and Jesus Christ, as well as Leonardo Da Vinci and George Bernard Shaw were all non-cholesterol eaters.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kevin Jeffreys
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: St. Louis
Time: 1999-03-05 21:54:36
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, You are doing a great service for people around the world even though they may not realize it yet. I admire your courage, knowledge and talents more than you’ll ever know. Sincerely, Kevin Jeffreys

Name: Katie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-03-05 04:29:10
Comments:

Hi Robert,

I was going to write to you directly, but I figured others might like to hear your answer to this.

My mother, who is 61, has been suffering the past few months with acute sinusitus and bronchitus. On top of that she has had trouble with constipation for almost all her life, but lately it's getting worse.

Lately, she has been eating but not "going". It took her 8 days to "go" the last time, (even with laxatives and all the other forms of "getting it out". (I'm sorry if I'm grossing some people out, but I feel this is necessary to say) It may seem funny to some but it's not. She was in horrible pain.

Anyhow, she was FINALLY diagnosed with some sort of bacteria that is growing in her stomach and digestive tract that is causing her to be compacted.

Could this be related to her dairy consumption?

Duh. I think I answered my own question.

Any more thoughts on the subject? (i.e. weird bacterial things growing in our bodies)

Thanks,
Katie

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Katie,

In early February 1,000 children took ill in the Dominican Republic from milk. Testing revealed the growth of 22 different bacteria. Rod-shaped bacteria survive pasteurization (at the first sign of heat they form a spore---when the milk cools the spore re-emerges). There are bacteria such as clostridium and mycobacterium paratuberculosis that survive pasteruization. There are other bacteria such as E coli, camphlobacter, staphlococcis, streptococcis, listeria...things you just do not want growing in your gut.

The pus-filled cheese with the blue mold might taste delicious...try to get mom to omit that from her diet. I hear it's "to die for!"

The first advice doctors give in the case of severe constipation is to eliminate the eight worst foods from your diet: 1) milk and dairy, 2) meat, 3)white flour, 4) processed foods, 5) white sugar, 6) salt, 7) coffee, 8) alcohol. These "foods" contain no fiber and are difficult to digest. A recent study showed that 2/3 of children with severe constipation were taken off cow's milk and given soy milk. The constipation was cured. Your mom should drink plenty of water and eat high fiber foods. Instead of white rice, try brown rice. Fresh fruits and raw vegetables are beneficial.

When food sits in the colon for longer than a day it begins to ferment and provides a rich environment for bacterial growth. Your mom needs professional help and a good nutritionist. Dangerous bacteria and the toxins they release can cause a vast array of disease conditions including candiasis, colitis and diabetes.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Andrew
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1999-03-04 20:01:30
Comments: First of all, this sounds like a bunch of (censored)! Second, I am 17 and I drink about 1 gallon of whole milk a day, I have been doing this since I was 8. And I am very healthly. If "milk" is bad, then EXPLAIN way I am still healthly! Please e-mail me if you have any soild evidence that milk is not good, than I will change my ways and I will stop drinking milk.

Dear Andrew,

I could give you an A-Z explanation, but let's go to the end of the alphabet and begin with the letter "Z." A common problem for 17-year-olds: ZITS. What is a zit? It's a skin disorder affecting 80% of all Americans between the ages of 12 and 24.

Every time a teen follows my advice to abstain from all milk and dairy products, his or her acne disappears in about one month. Acne may occur as a reaction to allergenic bovine proteins, and the fat and cholesterol content can worsen the condition. If you've got pus-filled zits, consider this fact: FDA allows the presence or 750 million pus cells in every quart of milk. You might be consuming three billion pus cells each day, Andrew.

Eighteen-year old American soldiers in perfect condition, unlucky enough to die in battle, were autopsied during the Korean War. Doctors found the existance of athersclerosis, heart disease. Each day the average American consumes (through dairy products) the equivalent cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon. That will add up to the same cholesterol contained in 19,345 slices during 1999, and by age 52, the same amount contained in one million slices of bacon.

Your consumption seems to be in excess of the average American's.

If your doctor advised that you eat 53 slices of bacon today because the cholesterol would be good for your heart, you'd get a new doctor. Be advised, Andrew...you will one day wake up with heart disease and have no clue what caused it.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mandy DeWit
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: BC (Canada)
Time: 1999-03-04 09:00:46
Comments: Mr. NOTMILKMAN after looking around on your website I find that you make statements that you have no business really making. For example in the case of Flo Jo' s death, did you examine her body? Are you trained to make those sorts of diagnoses that you were making on your website? Where did you get your information from as to the cause of her death? Or that the coroner is supposedly covering up the cause of her death?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mandy,

I obtained a copy of FLO JO'S autopsy and have shared it with other physicains and a medical examiner. Flo Jo had asthma. Her body was acutely congested with mucus. She had "petechial marks" on her throat, evidence of fingers violently grabbing her own throat in an attempt to clear an airway, tragically trying to breathe. She even broke one of her trademark long nails in the process.

Fifteen hours afte eating pizza, her stomach still contained evidence of that last meal, undigested. The only drug in her system was Benadryl, an antihistamine. She knew that she was congested, somehow the coroner missed it.

I accuse nobody of a conspiracy, despite the fact that there was a grand jury hearing which considered charging FLO-JO'S husband (Al Joyner) with murder.

Flo Jo had asthma. She could not breathe.

Review the autopsy and analyses:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/111598.html

After you finish with that, read the aftermath:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/112398.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nina Jo Muse, MD
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Austin, TX
Time: 1999-03-04 07:49:04
Comments: Dear Notmilkman,I enjoy your site and revisited it today after reading on AOL in the science news about the longrunning nurse's study that showed that those who ate the most dairy suffered the greatest bone fractures. I quote from the article below:"In 1997 Diane Feskanich and colleagues of the Harvard School of Public Health used data from the Nurses' Health Study -- a project involving tens of thousands of U.S. nurses -- to show that those who drank more milk throughout their lives had a higher risk of bone fracture in old age than those who consumed few dairy products." I have been lactovegetarian for more than twenty years but virtually quit drinking milk except as a treat item last year after reading your site and doing some investigating on my own. As a physician, I am aware of the imperfect state of our knowledge about the human body, but feel comfortable at this point in saying that there is more of a downside to milk than an upside. Of course is it a very enjoyable substance to many people. My regards to you and to anyone who works hard to find out for themselves the nitty gritty of any subject regardless of what the "experts" say. Nina

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

It takes enormous courage for a physician to share this TRUTH with her patients. Before the time that words hold meaning, before the time that we learn to read words, we live in a land of giants who tell us that each glass of cow's milk must be finished so that we can grow to be giants ourselves. Our destiny is to perpertrate that myth to our grandchildren's grandchildren. The message is reinforced by hundreds of millions of dollars each year. Some of those dollars are used to hire celebrities and many of those dollars go to politicians and millions of dollars are given to doctors and scientists to conduct biased studies.

It is a tribute to scientific and intellectual integrity that you have learned this truth. I congratulate you who are a rare physician, recognizing that healing is much more than diagnosing symptoms and prescribing medication.

The study you refer to will be the subject of next week's ANTIDAIRY Coalition newsletter. Americans have been brainwashed into believing that cow's milk prevents bone disease. We now have credible and well documented evidence that exactly the opposite occurs.

MILK consumption plays little or no role in preventing osteoporosis. MILK causes bone disease.

Regards,

Th NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lillian Reid
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Healdsburg, CA
Time: 1999-03-04 06:34:39
Comments: It's amazing how upset people get about milk. I haven't touched the stuff in years; no meat either. It was no good for me. People need to know that it is not necessary to eat that stuff. We thrive on a plant based diet. The corporate and government propanganda has mislead the public on the need to eat animal products. It's a pity. Check out the work of Dr. John McDougall. He's very sharp and convincing on this issue. He lives near me and I have been very fortunate to have had his influence. I wish you all health and happiness.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lillian,

Aren't you afraid that your bones will turn to powder?

What do you put on your cereal?

Where do you get your calcium from?

Don't you realize that God put animals on this planet so that we would eat them?

Ah, Lillian...the questions and comments I get...people need to be taught how healing a plant-based diet really is! :>)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jeremy Olsen
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Iowa
Time: 1999-03-04 00:21:05
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, I am another one of the Dordt college students that have so happened to run across your web-site. Maybe I can shed some light on to the hostility on campus about your web-site. This is also a defense of our college in which you seem to think is "ethnically challenged." First of all, Dordt college is a Christian private college in the NW corner of Iowa which is affiliated with the Christan Reformed Church (CRC) denomination. As with Dordt, the CRC, and the surrounding area of NW Iowa, the majority of people around here are from the Dutch heritige. The Dutch are noted as being very proud dairy farmers. As I was reading your eariler comments, I noticed that you said that you had done some research on us. I think you would of found that there were not only many different Dutch last names in our directory, but also many students from other states. Only about 10% of these students actually come from Iowa, and the rest come from the United States and Canada. One thing that I must point out is that there are not many non-whites who can consider themselves to be Dutch. It is not that we do not recruit students that are non-white and non-Dutch, because we treat all human beings with the same equality that we would want them to treat us as. In fact I am not Dutch and came to a Dutch college, so that makes me a minority. Before I leave this subject and move onto the core of my arguement, I said that there were many different students from many other states. This fact alone tells us that the standards of Iowa vs. the rest of the nation in ethnically diversity you hold us by does not hold. I think this is a matter of racial tollerence that must be considered. Since I cannot speak for the rest of the college, I can say that I am racially tolerant and so are all my friends. In fact my best friend who moved away last semester was an African-American and I fail to see the connection of there not being any black students on campus to the arguement of milk being bad for the body. Just because our ethnic pouplation is not as diverse as an average college campus does not mean that our level of thinking about milk being bad is distrorted. So lets stick to the facts. About your arguements about milk being bad. I will commend you on your indepth research, but as a former debater and a grandson of a former dairy farmer (he retired), I find your presentation of your facts flawed. Many claims and statements are made by you that milk is bad by it having different hormones, anti-biotics, etc. in it, but you fail to show me the link to it causing cancer or other bad side effects in human. The link I am talking about is the one that shows me that because we drink these hormones a certain reaction in the human body causes us to produce cancerous cells. These same hormones (Testoserone) that you point out that are presesnt in milk are perscribed in moderation by doctors to cure certain forms of tendonitus. Moderation is the key here, and I don't believe that there is enough hormones present in milk to label it as a growth potential therefore potentially dangerous, or else weight lifters everwhere would of switched to drinking milk instead of sterorids. Even the arguement of cholestoral that causes heart attacks. You have failed to acknowledge that there are good forms of cholesterol and bad. So how much of milk is good and how much is bad. Also are your facts based upon whole milk, 2%, 1%, or skim milk for clairfication. Just because somebody is allergic to milk does not mean that it is bad for humanity as a whole. Am I also to surmise that since cow's milk is bad, then goat's milk, and even human milk for babies is bad also. When I look to be convinced by an arguement, I need hard evidence AND links to show me that my previous thinking is flawed. One last example I would like to point out that you gave is the one about milk being full of protiens and especially that of it being the same substance as found in glue. Where is the link of this substance being toxic to the human body and how does it affect it badly. Now I assume that you will attack my arguements and my crediblity and I may be wrong. To even admit that I have no evidence of my own to present to you is a bold statement on my part, because it is true. I ask these questions above to further your thinking on your presentation and how I feel it is flawed. Also a tip for rebutting to these statments made by my fellow students and even others that do not agree with you, keep it rational. What I mean by rational is that you need to loose the sarcasim and the personal insults and stick to the subject (ie.Dordt being ethnically challenged.) Not only does it make your point more believeable, but it also does not offend those of the more professional nature and expertise that you would like to convince. Who likes to argue with somebody that hurls mud than sticks to the subject. If not, your web-site here will be checked off and considered to be one of the many conspiricy theorist sites that have no credibility and prestige to make their arguements valid. Thank you and I and my friends look forward to seeing your rebuttal on your site in the next few days. Thanks again. Jeremy Olsen Jr. Dordt College .

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeremy,

My first contact with a Dordt student came a few days ago when I was accused of not being in the real world and spreading outlandish claims. I explored the "real world" of Dordtsville and discovered a place not founded in the real world of American culture. You have explained the Dordt phenemon and I now understand Dordtsville to be a Dutch settlement. My own town of Oradell, N.J. was the largest Dutch settlment west of New Amsterdam. At one time my town had a very large black population. Before and after the Civil War, African-Americans were kept in poverty and worked the large farms of Northeastern New Jersey for their Dutch plantation owners. After the land was developed and the black church mysteriously burned to the ground, the black resident population of Oradell all but disappeared.

Since that first letter, additional Dordtites have visited the NOTMILK guestbook. One challenged my manhood while others accuse me of pontificating without any facts.

Perhaps it would be appropriate for your college to host a night of debates. I would be happy to visit and make all of my points crystal clear. In the meantime, review some real science.

DIABETES:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html

MILK HORMONES AND CANCER

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/122098.html

ASTHMA

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/111598.html

OSTEOPOROSIS

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/092098.html

CROHN'S DISEASE

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/062898.html

MILK PROTEINS - CASEIN

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/070598.html

THE MILK HORMONE CONSPIRACY

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/010399.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Robert Marson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-03-03 13:45:27
Comments: Your referrences you have indicated on your page (336) of them I believe; most of them are not from a PROFESSIONAL (Phd, Dr.).

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Robert,

A list of each and every reference contained in my book is also found on the NOTMILK site. Please note that when "professionals" publish scientific papers, their credentials are not noted in the references. Here is a small sampling which is representative of the references on my list of 336.

262) Andreas Friedl, et al. "Suppression of serum insulin-like growth factor-1 levels in breast cancer patients during adjuvant tamoxifen therapy." European Journal of Cancer, 1993, 29A (10), pp. 1368-1372. 263) J. Gillespie, et al. "Inhibition of pancreatic cancer cell growth in vitro by the tyrphostin group of tyrosine kinase inhibitors." Br.-J-Cancer, December, 1993, 68(6), pp. 1122-1126. 264) R.P. Glick, et al. "Identification of insulin-like growth factor (IGF) and glucose transporter-I and -3 mRNA in CNS tumors." Regul-Pept., October 20, 1993, 48(1-2), pp. 251-256. 265) F. Atiq, et al. "Alterations in serum levels of insulin-like growth factors and insulin-like growth-factor-binding proteins in patients with colorectal cancer." Int-J-Cancer, May 15, 1994, 57(4), pp. 491-497. 266) T. Yashiro, et al. "Increased activity of insulin-like growth factor-binding protein in human thyroid papillary cancer tissue." Jpn-J-Cancer-Res., January, 1994, 85(1), pp. 46-52.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: John A Buzeman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Vermont
Time: 1999-03-03 12:17:03
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen: Your web page about the dangers of milk is interesting.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

DEAR JOHN,

YOU ARE THE FOURTH DORDT-MEISTER TO VISIT THIS PAGE IN TWO DAYS. IF I HAD THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF OHIO STATE STUDENTS VISITING THIS SITE THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN LETTERS FROM 167 STUDENTS! I WOULD HAVE HAD A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE END OF THE ANTIDAIRY COALITION!

It seems you have spent a great deal of time researching milk and possible hazards associated with drinking it.

IS THIS YOUR WAY OF SAYING THAT I NEED ANOTHER "HOBBY?"

I commend you on your enthusiasm.

WELL, THANK YOU!

But are these dangers as severe as you make them seem?

YEP.

I would have to say if I spent the next 10 years researching any one of the foods we consume today I could find some sort of danger or hazard associated with them as well.

FORTY PERCENT OF WHAT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN EATS IS MILK OR DAIRY-BASED. EACH SIP OF MILK CONTAINS BACTERIA, POWERFUL GROWTH HORMONES, ALLERGENIC PROTEINS, ANTIBIOTICS, PESTICIDES, DIOXINS, FAT AND CHOLESTEROL. MILK BUFFERS GASTRIC ACIDITY SO THAT THESE SUBSTANCES SURVIVE DIGESTION, UNLIKE ANY SIMILAR SUBSTANCES CONTAINED IN OTHER FOODS.

True, many people may be allergic to dairy products and for them I feel bad. They are not able to enjoy milk, cheese, or even ice-cream. But they seem to go on and live happy lives anyways. I also know people who have lived well into their 80's and 90's who have enjoyed milk and who still enjoy milk. They never were affected by any of the "dangers" you have written about. I am not saying milk is free from all defects, but I do know milk has many benefits to the human body.

I HAVE ONLY FOUND ONE, JOHN. DRINK MILK AND YOU'LL HAVE A MILK MOUSTACHE AND THEN BE BEAUTIFUL LIKE SPIKE LEE AND CALCIUM RIPKIN.

For you to disregard the many people who do drink milk and who are healthy and fit would be unfair to those who do drink milk and for the dairy industry as a whole.

I CONTINUE BECAUSE I DO REGARD THESE PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY THE CHILDREN WHO ARE BRAINWASHED BY A BRILLIANTLY MARKETED MESSAGE.

As for me, I will continue to enjoy milk and milk products in moderation.

WAIT A SECOND, JOHN. THAT LINE SOUNDS LIKE THE ROBOT-LIKE MANTRA OF THE DAIRY INDUSTRY. IF IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOU AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU OVERDOSES ON THE STUFF AND LIVES INTO THEIR 80'S AND 90'S, WHY NOT PIG OUT ON IT? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT SHARING WITH ME, JOHN? SOMETHING THAT ALL HUMANS LEARN, PARTICULARLY IF THEY PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR BODIES AFTER EATING THAT DELICIOUS PIZZA AND ICE CREAM?

You and all your followers can continue to enjoy your "soy-milk" and "soy-milk" products.

ME AND MY FOLLOWERS? (THE NOTMILKMAN TURNS TO THE THOUSANDS OF THE MEMBERS OF HIS CULT---"HE'S ON TO US!")

Who knows maybe someday someone will come along and post a "not soy-milk" web site in the future. Hopefully we will both live long healthy healthy lives.

ARE YOU MAJORING IN DIPLOMACY AND TACT, JOHN, OR ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THE DORDT DEBATING TEAM?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Fransisca Veldhuis
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Washington
Time: 1999-03-03 10:12:06
Comments: I would just like to say that I love my milk and it keeps me very healthy.

NOTMILKMAN IS HAPPY FOR YOU.

I totally do not agree with your campaign.

NOTMILKMAN WONDERS WHY YOU HAD TO ADD THE WORD 'TOTALLY.'

What you said about how milk does not have a good source of calcium, if it doesn't then why do the nutrition facts on the bottle say 25% daily requirements met with one glass so if you drink four glsses of milk each day which you are supposed to drink you will meet your daily dosage of calcium.

NOTMILKMAN WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT LIE ON SUNDAY.

I think you need to come up with some facts.

NOTMILKMAN DREAMS THAT THERE WILL BE SEVEN YEARS OF PLENTY FOLLOWED BY SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE.

I also agree with my other friends here from Dordt College who have written you.

NOTMILKMAN NOTED YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND WONDERS WHETHER THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE WATER THERE...

What you said about Dordt is not true.

NOTMILKMAN GOT HIS INFO FROM DORDT'S WEBSITE

We have more then 2 African Americans here in fact we also have people from all around the world so how can you say we are not ethnically diverse.

WELL, EVERY ETHNICALLY UN-DIVERSE COLLEGE NEEDS AT LEAST ONE TOKEN STUDENT FROM BURKINA FASO.

I think you need to redo some of your research.

OF COURSE YOU DO, DEAR.

Also how come you don't back up anything what you say with facts.

NO QUESTION MARK...BUT I'LL ANSWER THAT ONE ANYWAY. THERE ARE PLENTY OF FACTS HERE, FRANSISCA. OPEN YOUR EYES AND GET THEE AN EDUCATION.

Present some of them on your website and mabye then we can talk some more.

IT'S A DEAL. WHY NOT START BY REVIEWING MY WEEKLY COLUMNS?

Regards,

THE NOTMILKMAN


Name: Bonnie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: new England
Time: 1999-03-03 09:42:12
Comments: Mr Cohen. No need to check if I have been here before, What number am I? Slick - count the numbers. All in the programming end. Now let's see, all the milk is back again. All the cheese, that I love, Brie, die for it, so just a little, then "what you know", Chuckle, days later, slap myself, is it worth it? Really didn't believe it, until, I was all in control of the food around here, then "BIG" change, as all came back again. Have to admit, I'm not the veggie, but I am trying. Go to the market and tell myself all the green stuff is really good. Then go to the other place in the market to pour the other stuff on it, so it tastes like a meal. This is the supermarket junkie, who likes to look at all. Matter of fact, the best time to do this, is when everyone else is sound asleep. See you in the Supermarket - Chuckle - over the greens

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Bonnie,

The problem with you New Englanders is all that creamy-white chowder...we'll have to teach you the Manhattan-style method.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Glenn Vander Woude
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Boise, Idaho
Time: 1999-03-03 09:02:36
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen: I was referred to your web site by some of my colleagues here at the "ethnically challenged" Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. You are correct in pointing out the lack of diversity here, but I failed to see how that was relevent in your argument against the use of milk. I am graduating this spring, and I plan on working on a 1,000+ cow dairy in the Boise, Idaho area after graduation. What I am wondering is what your background is, and why feel so strongly about this subject. I also would like to hear some possible reasons of why you think I should not be going into the dairy business. Your comments would much appreciated. Sincerely Yours, Glenn Vander Woude

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Glenn,

I would keep my options open if I were you. This week will be one of the worst in dairy industry history. Five years ago there were 250,000 dairy farms in America. Last year 8,000 more farms were lost and the number is down to 92,000.

Dairy farmers were receiving $14 per hundred pounds of milk... this year was a great year. They were getting $17. This week the number will drop down to between $10 and $11.

Couple that with increased ANTIDAIRY Coalition activity...I would not paint a rosy prognosis for your career choice.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

"why feel so strongly about this subject"

Proof positive that lots of folks don't READ and COMPREHEND
before asking questions.

  1. Once you were an avid milk/dairy user
  2. You learned the truth and crossed it off your menu
  3. You thought it unfair that OTHERS didn't know
  4. You did LOTS of research
  5. You talked to LOTS of experts
  6. You SUED the FDA (with no satisfaction)
  7. You decided to SHARE that information on WEB and in a book!
  8. ALL THESE FACTS WERE THERE TO BE READ!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster aspartame victim, ex-dairy user

Name: Jeremy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: WA
Time: 1999-03-03 06:57:18
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I don't appreciate you mocking my educational institution and implying that Dordt is a racist college. I hate to push but could you please respond and tell me and the world your bonafide scientific findings? Regards, Jeremy

Dear Jeremy,

The 1990 census revealed that 12.1 percent of America's residents or nearly 30 million people are African-American. Iowa's census reveals that only 1.7 percent of its residents are black. If Dordt college reflected the average American population, there would be 133 black students attending your school. If Dordt college reflected the percentage of blacks in Iowa, there would be nineteen students of African-American heritage.

There are only two black students at Dordt, Jeremy, out of 1,100 undergraduates. While I did not call Dordt a racist college, I did find those statistics to be a litle unusual. I also found great irony in the fact that the major event listed in your daily college bulletin was a "Racism and Pollution" lecture.

As for SCIENCE, please stay tuned. I just obtained a study of 77,761 women in which milk was shown to play no role in preventing bone fractures. On the contrary, women who drank milk actually had higher rates of bone fractures. I will be writing about this in greater detail in next Sunday's ANTIDAIRY Coalition column.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: lizwiz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: England
Time: 1999-03-03 04:37:19
Comments: I thought it might be good for people to hear from someone who has not eaten dairy products or indeed any animal products for over 17 years now! I am extremly healthy rarely get colds and generally am fitter than most of my colleagues. During these years I have become pregnant, given birth and raised a daughter who is now nearly 15 - she is also vegan by example and choice and again is healthy, bright and committed to animal rights. It is very easy to give up dairy products as there are so many alternatives on the market. My choice is concentrated Plamil pea milk...it is non GMO and tastes good. LIZ WIZ

Name: Eric Vander Kooy
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Iowa
Time: 1999-03-03 02:17:56
Comments: Dear Robert, I first of all want to say that you have quite the opinion of milk. Since you are not a milk drinker, I am getting the idea that you are a sick, weak looking man or hardly a man. My family are hard core milk drinkers and you can not find healthier people. Instead of blaming the milk industry maybe you should blame your livestyles. It is those desk jobs, with all that stress, and laziness that is killing you people. If you have any to say to us milk drinkers, how about saying it to our faces instead of being a coward, writing this crap on the computer. Maybe you are too weak to back up your mouth.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Eric,

Amazing. I was waiting for a comment from the esteemed University of Dork in Iowa, the enlightened college in which whites outnumber blacks by a proportion of 550 to 1. What did I do to become blessed by your college-educated voice of reason? One of your buddies posted message number 870 to this guestbook.

Do I get the choice of weapons? How about cream pies...at 40 paces? No? We could meet in a field with the National Fluid Milk Producers behind you and the antidairy Coalition behind me. I'll bring my sling. (WARNING: The bigger they are, the harder they fall!)

I have offered to debate one-on-one or one-on-ten any representatives of the dairy industry, so long as the show is broadcast live on television. So far...no takers. I would be happy to meet any member of your industry on the racquetball court. However, I have no tolerance for pain, so epees and dueling pistols are out of the question.

Regards,

Then NOTMILKMAN


Name: xjenyx
Website:
Referred by: AngelFire
From: buff,n.y.
Time: 1999-03-03 00:20:40
Comments: sometime in november I wrote to you stating how drinking a cows milk is rape. you responded with an answer to my theory, but also offended me with another Quoting something like, "how about having it your way at burger king ", as well as stating something towards me that refers to eating meat! first off i don't contribute to the millions murdered each year for sales at McMurder or Murder King. second off, i am extremely militant on views towards animals rights (vegan militant), and the last thing i would do would eat them! Veganism is my way off life, and when i was writing to you about, "Dairy is Rape", i was bringing up an issue that many should be aware about as well towards innocent animals, just like that many should be aware about the millions of deaths a year within innocence=animals, in which whom have no say! so I was basically stating my veiws, views in which I know are 100% right. Not one person can change that truth! -humans-who enslave,castrate,experiment on, and fillet other animals-have had an understandable penchant for pretending animals do not fell pain. a sharp distinction between humans and "animals" is essential if we are to bend them to our will, wear them-without any diquieting tinges of guilt or regret. it is unseemly of us, who often behave so unfeelingly toward other animals, to contend that only humans can suffer. the behavior of other animals renders such pretensions specious. they are just too much like us.-Drs. Carl Sagan & Ann Druyan, shadows of forgotten ancestors i was #633 on this page! thank you in good terms of taking your time to read another response, and may your notmilkman get his word out more about the truth about dairy worldwide! thanx again!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear xJenyx,

Letter #633 was posted to this guestbook on November 5, 1998. You called the abuse of cows and their calves rape, and in my response to you I called it murder. Society kills mammals and calls their body parts "meat." We gut and filet fish, then call the flesh of those tortured creatures "seafood." These animals have pain receptors and levels of consciousness similar to our own. They have hearts that pump blood and nerve endings that fire electrical signals of pain to their brains. They know fear and they have wills to escape and live. You and I are in the same courtroom, Jeny. A crime against any animal is a crime against all of humanity. We are all so connected. There are many who would be disgusted at the concept of eating the family pet for dinner. They then go out to dinner and eat a slice of an animal's arm or leg, dredged in flour and fried in hot oil, covering the flesh of the baby animal with sauce while drinking its blood and sucking the marrow out of its bones.

Regards,

Ther NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kyle
Website:
Referred by: Geocities
From: US
Time: 1999-03-02 04:25:40
Comments: Dear Robert,After reading though you web site. It got me thinking. I decided to test you theory. About a week ago I started to stop drinking milk or consume other dairy products. Since than I have found my self hungery more often, and when I wake up in the mourning I have found my self more tired than usual. I am expierncing withdrawl sign from diary products? Are milk products addictive? Do you have any other information on this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

It must get very cold and lonely up there in Alaska, Jeremiah. When the sun goes down you guys have to do something clever to amuse yourselves.

On February 23, using the same exact computer (207.67.53.2 Mozilla/4.0 MSIE 4.01, Windows 98) you posted a message using your other alias; Jeremiah. In fact, you have visited this Guestbook about one dozen times the past two years...often with anger. After all, your family is in the dairy business.

Today you're Kyle, last week Jeremiah. A year ago, Elsie and tomorrow perhaps you'll be the cow who jumps over the moon. Nice try! By the way...I was going to try to answer your letter until I re-read your post and stopped at the word "hungery." Only one person has such atrocious spelling...I remembered you! You wake up in the "mourning?" Ah, Kyle...or Jeremiah. You are always good for a laugh. After doing a bit of detective work, I confirmed my suspicion! :>)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: bob
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: canada
Time: 1999-03-01 23:03:30
Comments: If there was no milk there would be no cerial, and no cerial would (censored). Milk is the best

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Whatever you say, Bob.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: John
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: US
Time: 1999-02-28 23:56:17
Comments: You people need to get all of your facts straight!!!!! What do you live in New York City or something? You obviously have any idea about anything useful! Try living without milk and see how you turn out in 50 years, you would be strapped to a wheelchair sucking your food through a tube. Is that how you want to LIVE YOUR LIFE! Think about, and maybe you should get a life and a real job.

Name: Katie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-02-28 23:52:22
Comments: I've been sitting here reading your site and the postings the past hour or so.

Reading this site just reinforced what I've come to believe about eight years ago.

Eight years ago I began to have terrible allergies (eczema and hives), along with an increase in asthma attacks. It was then I decided to do something drastic (my own little experiement, I guess you could say) and gave up milk and dairy products entirely. I lost 25 lbs within roughly 6 weeks with no effort, and felt great, trim and healthy. I rarely had allergies and my skin was clear and glowing. And my asthma appeared to have "magically" disappeared.

But over the years I began adding a little dairy to my meals again (because, let's face it, they do taste good), and now I've gained all the weight back plus 20 more pounds. I've also developed acne once again, and I always have a bloated looking face (and it's not just due to my extra weight, I can tell it's water retention). Also, in the past few years I've had to start carrying an inhaler with me for asthma which has unfortunately returned.

Just a few weeks ago I took a real look at myself and my body, wondering what I could do to bring me back to heath. Even though I don't exercise any more or less than I used to, I feel horrible. And even though I don't eat any more than I used to, and still try to eat low fat, and watch my sugar grams intake, dairy products have been brought to the forefront and now I consider them the main culprit.

I had told people for years that milk does not do a body good, and there are other ways to get calcium. (isn't that the reason most of use consume dairy products anyway?)

So just now I've decided to cut out dairy again. And I'm sure this cold I have right now will leave quickly, and I'm sure the pounds will drop off again with little effort.

And this time I'll stay clear of dairy.

Keep up the good work. It amazes me how threatened people get when faced with the possibility that their choices may actually be harmful. Hopefully others will become a little more open-minded and realize the ill effects that dairy products really do have on people. You are doing an honorable thing.

Oh, and one more thing. Just before hand I started reading this site, I was about to have a bowl of cereal with milk for breakfast.

Now I think I'll have toast.

Sincerely, Katie L.


Name: Richard Owens
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kansas
Time: 1999-02-28 08:51:07
Comments: Good info! I have been an extreme lover of milk until recently. I've recently started changing the way I eat and have decided to eliminate dairy products from my diet to the best of my ability. I had no idea the ill effects milk has on the human body. To add to it this growth hormone rBGH sick!!! I'd rather drink water from my toilet!! Well that is alittle much...but you get the point. The American diet really sucks when you look at the amount of dairy consumed. Keep up the anti-dairy slogan our health depends on it. later:)

Name: Amanda Whitaker
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Las Vegas
Time: 1999-02-28 05:51:57
Comments: I have a question. I have a 9 month old who is drinking soy milk because he had problems drinking the regular milk based formula. What should I put him on as he turns one year that would have the same nutrient values as the formula. Will rice milk take the place of putting him on whole milk as our pediatrician recommends?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Amanda,

It will soon be time for your son to be eating solid food. The perfect drink for him is water. He'll soon get his nutrients from the same foods that you do. I hope his diet will include plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables.

Human breast milk is the perfect food for an infant. Rice milk does not provide the same nutrition as soy-based formula and it should not be considered as the only form of nutrition for an infant. It is a tasty treat but it is in no way a perfect food substitute for soy formula.

There is no nutritional need for drinking milk after a mammal is weaned...man is the only mammal that (unnaturally) does so. Milk substitutes are tasty treats and are wonderful on cereal. They include rice, soy and nut-based milks.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: SUSAN GEHRT
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Long Island, New York
Time: 1999-02-27 21:54:12
Comments: After watching my 13 year old son have a severe asthma attack after a glass of milk I decided no more dairy! we have discovered a wonderful drink called silk. It is a soy drink and if you put it in the blender with ovaltine it is delicious. I even give it to my sons friends and they like it too. I'm grateful to the makers of silk because it has more calcium than milk and it's not deadly!

Dear Susan,

Frank Oski, MD, was once the Chief of Pediatrics at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Maryland. Doctor Oski noted that half of all children suffer serious adverse affects after ingesting milk and dairy products, and their parents rarely make an association between consumption and ill health.

These symptoms include modd swings, depression, anxiety, attention deficit disorders earaches, headaches, colds, congestion, sudden infant death syndrome, mucus and asthma.

Congratulations on learning the truth about milk and in doing so, making your child healthier!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lyn
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 1999-02-27 20:03:54
Comments: LOVE THE SITE! I hadn't drank milk for a week (not even anything with milk IN it...i'm a vegan but my parents dont know*they think i'm anorexic!!:-( no way!* i hated milk when i tried it again, and i felt SICK! milk is BAD!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lyn,

I have come to dislike the "V" words. When I was a meat eater I used to snicker when somebody introduced themselves and said that they were vegetarian. Vegan was even worse! Sounds like they were whisked here by UFO from another galaxy!

Instead of using one of the two "V" words, why not do as I do? I eat a plant-based diet. Most Americans eat a plant-based diet so we have that in common. Meals usually consist of vegetables, grains and protein. Some people add a bit of meat to their diet. Mine consists entirely of plants.

"Plant-based diet" sounds so much nicer, don't you think? By using that phrase you might be able to show your parents the tremendous variety of tastes and textures that come with eating the 40 different veggies, 40 different fruits, 20 grains and 20 beans readily available.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Saiom Shriver
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Akron, Ohio
Time: 1999-02-27 01:30:20
Comments: Dear Robert, Is it possible that Creutzfeldt-Jakob disase is being misdiagnosed in the Cleveland area as meningitis? How does one tell the difference? Since spinal stems from deceased cows are put in gelatin and other products and since NPR News the week of Feb 24th mentioned that AIDS can be passed from mothers to children in the milk, is it possible that municipal health depts. are involved in coverup?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Saiom,

Cruetzfeldt-Jacob (CJD) is similar, in ways, to Alzheimer's disease. Cruetzfeldt and Jacob were two physicians who worked closely with Dr. Alzheimer. There is no mistaking the differences once the brains are closely examined. CJD is a type of encephalitis, a spongioform disease in which cells (glial cells) of the brain are destroyed.

University of Pittsburgh researchers have 100+ brains in their biological depository from Alzheimer's victims. Re-examination of those brains revealed that previously diagnosed Alzheimer's deaths actually were caused by CJD.

The particle which is responsible for CJD (PRION) has been shown to be immune to 1,000 degree heat. It might very well be in the meat people eat or in body fluids from infected animals. It might be in the bone meal used by gardeners or in gelatin used in desserts or pharmaceutical capsules.

Many people predict that mad cow disease and the human equivalent will one day make AIDS look like the common cold, in comparison.

One infected cow was found in Canada and the Canadian government incinerated the other two hundred and thirty cows on that farm as well as six inches of topsoil. In England 4 million cows were killed, their carcasses incinerated. "Every year in the United States," according to Howard Lyman (the ex-cattleman sued on Oprah), "100,000 cows appear healthy at night and are found dead in the morning."

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Karen Brown
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 1999-02-26 22:55:13
Comments: Let's see - where do I start?? I am a dairy farmer and I was so aggravated when I read your anti-coalition web site. Where do you get off making up these bogus allegations?? I am so proud to have been raised a dairy farmer and that I still work on the farm. We have never used BST,nor do we put any contaminated milk into our tank! I read one gentleman's comment that was a dairy farmer, and he is right -- we get heavily fined for contaminating milk and if it happens to go to the plant and we contaminate any one elses milk, we are fined. I think you are just one of those people that just wants to make a name for themselves and shoot their mouth off! We farmers feed you ignorant bastards!! Beef, chicken, oats, corn, vegetables! How would you people eat without us?? When settlers first came to America, 90% of people were farmers and they survived on non-pastuerized milk. They were not just into dairy, they were into beef and vegetables feeding themselves and neighbors. I want to know where you get your information on milk causing cancer and death. I have drank non-pastuerized milk my whole life. I am not overweight, sick, nor have any diseases. My family has been healthy their whole lives aside of the common cold. I am dreading the time when I have children, hoping they won't grow up to be the kind of person that you have made yourself!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT,

Dear Karen,

You have a right to be angry! I commend you for your passion!!!

You admit that you have never used BST and I congratulate you for having studied the issues and for making the right choice. Unfortunately, most farmers have been misled by Monsanto and FDA so that their product contains a hormone which caused cancer in laboratory animals (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989).

There are nearly 9.5 million dairy cows in America and one-third of the dairy farms in America now use BST. Milk from hundreds of dairy farms are mixed together and then packaged by dairy producers. In the New York area dairy processors buy milk fom six hundred different farms, then mix it together. Your noble efforts in keeping the POISON out of your cows and your milk has little meaning to the unfortunate consumer.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: R.Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George,B.C.
Time: 1999-02-26 09:14:03
Comments: It is time the police in the U.S.A. and Canada investigated wrong doing in government and corporations concerning cow milk and aspartame. Isn't bribery an indictable offense? Isn't conspiracy to defraud indictable? Who knows what else would turn up. It might just give people enough hope again that they might decide to once again take responsibility for their own GOVERNMENT. Now there's a revolutionary thought!

Name: Jeffrey Freed
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Puyallup, WA
Time: 1999-02-26 07:53:22
Comments: This is pure propaganda, and completely lacking in credibility. You are not only a propagandist, but an idiot, liar, and a fanatic as well.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeffrey,

It is a rare coincidence to get two letters posted to this GUESTBOOK within a hour of each other from the State of Washington. Both letters express similar sentiments.

Perhaps I am an idiot and a liar and a fanatic...but you know what, Jeff? In October of last year I was the subject of a column in the largest medical health newsletter in the world. The author, Julian Whitaker, MD, did not call me any of those names. Credibility? This doctor, one of the most well respected physicians in America gave great credibility to the ANTIDAIRY Coalition's message. Read all about it, Jeff and Jeremy:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/100498.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jeremy Visser
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: WA
Time: 1999-02-26 06:49:54
Comments: Mr. Cohen Upon reviewing your web site I am astounded by your hostility. In the real world people do not accept such outlandish claims.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeremy,

I am often amused when a college student attempts to teach me about the "REAL WORLD." Your email address reveals that you attend Dordt College in Sioux City, Iowa.

Dordt College's website reveals that it hardly reflects the ethnic diversity of the "REAL WORLD." The student body consists of one American Indian, 3 Asians, 2 blacks and 1,121 white students. Today's major on-campus activity is a lecture in room C158 on "Racism and Pollution." Today's edition of your official newsletter of your college reflects a quote from Psalm 2:10-12 which in part reads:

"Serve and honor the Lord; be glad and tremble. Show respect to his son because if you don't the Lord might become furious and suddenly destroy you."

While the wisdom contained in the good book is always well received, I was bit surprised to find such advice in a college setting. You have come to this site, "astounded" by "hostility" and "outlandish claims." You seem to be the one with hostility. Are you inspired by the quote in today's newsletter and are you here to seek your own special brand of the "Lord's vengeance."

I am equally astounded that a college with over 1,000 students has only two African Americans, has as its major social event a "Racism and Pollution" lecture, and cannot recognize the facts that ninety-five percent of African Americans cannot tolerate lactose and that children living under the poverty level in America's cities, many of whom are African Americans, are overdosed with milk and dairy products which give them asthma, diabetes, irritable bowel syndrome and a vast array of behavioral and physiological symptoms related to that consumption of milk.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tim Walls
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Louisville
Time: 1999-02-25 20:55:09
Comments: Well, what is the breast cancer rate in countries which have low rates of milk consumption?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Tim,

Breast cancer death rates (WHO mortality statistics) reveal less than three cases per 100,000 in nations in which less than 1/2 pint per day of milk is consumed per capita. The nations include Costa Rica, Mauritius, Guyana, Bahrain, Panama, Kuwait, Surinam, Ecuador, Paraguay, Egypt, Korea, Dominican Republic, Zimbabwe and El Salvidor.

The rate of breast cancer deaths in the United States is 16.49 cases per 100,000. Here are some nations in which the consumption of milk is greater than the United States. Ireland is 17.54. France is 17.79, New Zealand 17.85, Norway 17.88, Sweden is 18.12, Uruguay is 20.42 and Netherlands is 22.12.

Uruguay has the third highest per capita rate of milk consumption in the world and the third highest breast cancer rate. Note the correlation...Paraguay=NOTMILK and low breast cancer rates. URUGUAY= GOTMILK? GOT breast cancer!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lynne Knopp
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ely, MN
Time: 1999-02-25 20:22:20
Comments: Wow...interesting comments. It seems that the criticism about drinking milk is like criticizing Mom and apple pie! I, too, have felt that way...having totally breastfed my son (now an adult) for the better part of three years, I battled with him in later years to drink just one glass of milk a day! If I could do it over I would never give him cow's milk, especially now with the growth hormone issue. Interestingly, any time he got a cold I would not give him cow's milk and he had very few ear infections and colds came and went quickly. I stopped drinking milk a number of years ago and just love "Silk" a soy-milk beverage by White Wave. I think milk DOES fall into the same arguments as cigarettes and hormone replacement issues...someone is making big bucks at the expense of others.

Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Illinios
Time: 1999-02-25 07:47:53
Comments: You are an arrogant uninformed (censored)!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mike,

Uninformed?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-02-25 04:05:12
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, When I first visited your webpage some months ago my initial reaction was that you were just trying to sell a book! After reading your webpage,newsletters and the sources that you so often quote my reaction is the same.This webpage is about selling a book and making public appearances at the expense of the dairy industry.Prove me wrong! My challenge to you is this: Tell us how much you have made from this book and the appearances that you do AND then donate it ALL to United Way or some other recognized, legitimate charity.You could post the receipt(s) for your donation(s) right here on your page!

Dear Jim,

I challenge you to find any other website out of an estimated 80 million on the INTERNET in which an author gives more free information, writes a weekly column and edits and answers questions daily on his GUESTBOOK page as I do.

As a matter of fact, I have two websites and have welcomed over 140,000 visitors who have posted over 1,000 letters. MILK - THE DEADLY POISON continues to sell very well and has generated nearly one-million dollars in total sales revenue. Those dollars will be used to finance another ANTIDAIRY book which will be released in a few weeks. The initial run will be 50,000 books. We have an enormous advertising campaign planned.

United Way is a wonderful charity, but we are united in our way, there are many lives to be saved and our agenda is to help people learn the evils of milk and dairy products.

If we had been a stronger voice we might have been able to save FLO JO and that deeply troubles us. Read about her death and the dairy link:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/111598.html

We might also have been able to warn Linda McCartney who died of breast cancer. Linda was a vegetarian, but she consumed milk and dairy products, even while she was under treatment for her breast cancer.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/blame.html

Milk contains enormous amounts of IGF-I, a hormone identified as the key factor in the growth of every breast cancer.

If our voice had been stronger and our financing better, we could have saved children from developing diabetes as a result from a heinous act by the dairy industry:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/110198.html

We could have published evidence in every newspaper in America linking diabetes to early exposure to bovine proteins:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html

So you see, Jim, your challenge is not a challenge at all. Should we stray from our current course, we abandon 500,000 kids in New York with asthma...or kids with diabetes. Our funding and energy is invested to make the greatest difference in this world--to inform all people that milk is a deadly poison.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cliff
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1999-02-25 00:42:46
Comments: Greetings. I think you'll be glad I visited your page and signed your guestbook this time, but I have both good and bad news for you. First of all the bad news is the studies you frequently cite from (ie the Lancet entitled: "Insulin-like growth factor-I and new opportunities for cancer prevention." and "Circulating concentrations of insulin-like growth factor-I and risk of breast cancer.") both can be used against you. If you read the full article as opposed to the abstract, you would have known that the authors very vehemently stated that the elevated IGF-1 levels observed, are actions of the cancer itself. That is a DEVASTATING blow to your theory. Shane has pointed out to me also that "the condition he (you) describes, has been identified and named. We refer to that as 'Multiple Endocrine Neoplastic Syndrome.', in which there is excessive production of various hormones in women with this form of cancer." But make no mistake about it, it is the cancer cells themselves that initiate this process. His answer was consistent to what appeared in the summer issue of the Lancet. For further reading he recommended me (and you) read the study "Abnormal production of androgens in women with breast cancer." Anticancer Research VOLUME 14 NUMBER 5B, PAGE 2113-2117. The URL to the abstract can be coppied and pasted here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=7840509&form=6&db=m&Dopt=b

The other bad news (actually sad news) for you and me and everyone else is that there is no simplicity to curing cancer. Which unfortunately means back to the lab my friend. The only good news is, Milk may not be so dangerous after all. There are reasons to avoid dairy products if you choose to, but avoiding them on this belief, lacks the much needed essential evidence.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cliff,

I have never claimed to have a cure for cancer. I have merely pointed out that the key factor in cancer's growth is IGF-I, a hormone that is identical between humans and cows. The odds of there being an identical hormone across two species of mammal is infinitesimal.

After a cancer grows large enough it becomes an endocrine gland and secretes IGF-I which in turn, fuels its own growth. There was a time that IGF-I was understood to work in only an endocrine manner. Today science knows that it does much more. Recent research has demonstrated that exogenous (foreign) IGF-I also promotes powerful growth effects.

The study in which you cited confirms that IGF-I is produced in enormous quantities by a growing cancer. There is no mystery or controversy to this point. What has yet to be understood is how cancers, so universally common, are controlled and suspended from growing.

It is now accepted that IGF-I plays a role in initiating such growth in a "sleeping/inactive" cancer. In layperson's terms, there must be a match to first light the fuse. In scientific terms, cancers, once though to be rare, are quite common. IGF-I plays a critical role, as the most powerful growth hormone in the human body, in initiating the first stages of cellular proliferation.

If one was to take estrogen, progesterone or testosterone in pill form, one might expect an immediate or future behavioral effect. It is well accepted that body organs also naturally produce these hormones. Most people do not take hormones...those who do so, proceed with caution.

One very special cow's milk hormone is identical to the same hormone in humans. Armed with information that IGF-I is the most powerful growth hormone naturally produced in the human body, would you not consider it wise to abstain from ingesting large quantities of that powerful cellular proliferator?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: BobbyG
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-02-24 23:28:08
Comments: Robert; I have read some of your information here and I don't dispute everything that you say, but...What do I dunk my Oreos in? What do I pour over my cereal? Ham and swiss sandwich would be no more. Milk and water are the only two liquids that I drink anymore. Choclate cake and milk is tradition in my household. I can't accept this...I just can't believe it...NO MILK? WAIT...Oreos and beer??? Hmmm, just may have something

Name: Cliff
Website: Not Fooled@All
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: you know
Time: 1999-02-24 10:34:45
Comments: I was just wondering if you could forward your newsletter to the following addresses Kingsnothing9@Hotmail.Com, and Lori_69@Hotmail.Com. These are 2 avid milk drinkers, and possibly (in my opinion) two of the smartest people to ever set foot on the planet. On two separate occasions I told them about the milk and Monsanto chemicals being cancer promoting. I also informed them of the statistics you put up, ie 1 in 8 women have breast cancer because of dairy consumption. They both informed me (without knowing what the other said), generally the same thing. First of all neither of them support Monsanto, but in order to definitively say 1 in 8 women have breast cancer because of drinking RBGH milk, would take 50 years to say so emphatically. And neither of them knew exactly how long cows were injected with this stuff. Lori said that could possibly be an 'extreme case scenario', but had some skepticism. Likewise Shane (the other person) believes you may have said too much too soon. He said we are quote 'taking this stuff on blind faith true, but to use this as an explanation for this life threatening disease, is unwarranted.' The naturally occuring Growth Factors in milk, they both believe do not constitute a problem. They both say because of their structure, they go in a polypeptide, but come out into the bloodstream as an oligotide, too week to exert any effects on various tissues. Can you send them a newsletter, as well to my address at Clifford_S@Hotmail.Com. Thanks in advanced.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Clifford,

I can think of about six people in my life that I've considered to be absolutely brilliant. In every case they shared one attribute: Each individual considered himself or herself to be ignorant...and willing to be taught something new.

A few years ago I wrote that one out of seven women was expected to get breast cancer. On November 8, 1994 the New York Times reported the results of an autopsy study revealing that thirty-nine percent of women between the ages of 40 and 50 had breast cancer. That astonishing number was nearly three times the low rate that I had even imagined.

I learned something new: Cancer is a lot more common than previously thought but we control cancers. Only one percent of women in that age group are clinically diagnosed with breast cancer but it is there...waiting for an event to initiate its growth.

The key factor in breast cancer proliferation is a protein hormone called insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I). Like a key fitting into a lock, IGF-I is identical in humans and cow. When we suckle on bovine mammary fluids we are exposed to enormous quantities of this powerful growth hormone.

I have previously described the mechanisms by which this hormone survives digestion. Milk buffers gastric pH and enzymatic activity; homogenization micronizes fat molecules so that they bypass the gut and offer protection for these delicate peptide hormones while they circulate through the bloodstream, somtimes finding their way to tissues and organs to promote growth. When they find an existing cancer these proteins do what they were designed to do and show no discrimination. They are equally opportunistic to fat cells, liver cells and cancer cells.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: MeMyselfandI
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: around
Time: 1999-02-24 09:33:47
Comments: Well, I have heard stories about since milk is a liquid it passes through your system too fast for efficient use of calcium. I consider myself extremely open minded... I read a lot of your page and it made me think. I get a lot of crap from non-educated close minded people as well, because of my hobbys (herb). Thanks, Rob

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Rob,

Speed by which milk travels has nothing to do with calcium bioavailability. For every milligram of calcium you wish to absorb you need an equal milligram of magnesium. Magnesium happens to be the center atom of chlorophyll, the protein which can be considered to be "plant blood." The protein in human blood is hemoglobin. The center atom of hemoglobin is iron. Hemoglobin and chlorophyll are identical molecules except for the center atom. BOTTOM LINE: By eating the "GREEN STUFF" (like cows do) you'll get calcium and magnesium in just the right proportion.

Protein acts to inhibit calcium absorption. Meat is protein. Milk is "liquid meat." Protein creates an acid-condition in the blood which the body neutralizes by leeching calcium from its bones. In effect, drinking milk can create a "NEGATIVE CALCIUM BALANCE." Milk consumption has been called the prescription for osteoporosis and bone loss.

I refer you to "FIT FOR LIFE" (by Harvey and Marilyn Diamond) which calls milk and dairy products a prescription for bone disease.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kathleen
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1999-02-24 09:30:44
Comments: Robert you need to find a new subject for you web page this one is a bad thing to talk about.

Name: Katherine
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-02-24 04:05:25
Comments: But i'm not Sara i'm Katherine maybe she just used the same computer as I did but I DO believe the same thing as Sara.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Katherine,

Maybe we can get Joanne Woodward to do a remake of the old classic...we'll call the new movie "The Three Faces of Sara."

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Katherine
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-02-24 02:44:42
Comments: I don't beleive a word that you are saying and anyone who does must be really gulible!!! MILK IS THE BEST BEVERAGE AROUND. I will never stop drinking it and I will live longer than those of you who don't drink milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Katherine,

Every time a post is made to my guestbook the author leaves a unique ELECTRONIC FINGERPRINT. The same SIGNATURE was left here on February 12, 1999 by SARA in post #827...so, Hello SARA!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kathy Coe
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Michigan
Time: 1999-02-24 01:40:28
Comments: Greetings Notmilk Activists, While I agree with much of what you have to say about the hazardous effects of commercial mass produced milk from sick cows, I think you take your slant a bit too far. I wrote into you a few days ago asking you to comment on the virtues and disadvantages of goats milk. You did agree that the mollecular size of the goat milk protein is similar to that of human milk. No comments were made that this could be a huge advantage to ones health in regards to digestibility. I think that your response to the disadvantages (cows milk is for calfs, dogs milk is for puppies, goats milk is for goat kids.......ya-da-ya-da) was very much a blanket statement that you use over and over again as a catch-all phrase to reinforce your apparent bias. I think your educated guests deserve more credit than that, and this is why I am returning these oppositional comments for your consideration. I explained to you that we raise a few healthy Nubian dairy goats. We give them love, pure RO water, organic grain (when possible), a clean environment, and nutritional supplements such as kelp, wheat germ, brewers yeast, and probiotics. You have to admit that this would be a much superior product to supermarket cows milk that is contaminated with antibiotics, pesticides, herbicides, melathion, hormones.......... There are many women who choose to, or cannot breastfeed their infants. In this situation, goats milk not only makes a perfect substitute, but may even surpass the breastmilks nutritional values if the mother eats a poor diet, smokes, takes drugs....... Are you saying that you would rather see an infant die than not take the milk of another animal in your [cows milk for calfs] argument? I have seen many sickly babies brought back to life on fresh raw goats milk. You would have to agree it's a heck of a lot better than commercially made formulas. As a mother, and a longstanding member of LeLache' League, there is no doubt that the superiority of human milk(from a healthy mother)surpasses all other milks for human babies. Not everyone can or will do this for their children. Infants aren't the only people that benefit from goats milk. I personaly witnessed an elderly man with ulcers and digestive problems be brought back into a state of health on raw goats milk. He was underweight, in lots of pain from the ulcers and indigestion he had been experiencing. Once he was on the goats milk, he gained back 25#, and was no longer bothered by the ulcers or digestive problems within about 1 month. You mentioned nothing about the digestive enzymes, and beneficial bacteria present in raw milk. It is a living substance that is truly health giving for human nourishment, as I have witnessed time and time again. One woman was overwhelmed with candida yeast and got rid of it by drinking raw goats milk. I have too many stories like this to list here, but if you were the one seeing these health recoveries, 1st hand, you may see things a little differently. Goats milk is consumed by more of the worlds population than any other type of milk, and for good reason. It has been a source of human nutrition for centuries. There are nomadic people in Mongolia that subsist almost entirely on goats milk and it's fermented products. They rely on it as a means of survival. It suits them perfectly due to the portability of goats as they travel across the deserts. Goats themselves are adept at surviving harsh environments. These people would not survive if they did not have this milk. Not only do they survive, but they are quite a healthy group of people. The product that they are consuming is something totaly different than the dairy products in this country. Their goats survive on localy available wild plants. The goat is a very fastidious creature, and will not eat off of the ground, limiting the likelyhood for parasite infestation. They brouse and get their forage up high, rather than graze close to the ground like sheep and cattle do. I am not here to only sing the praises of goats milk. I believe that the milk of sheep is also as virtuous, if handled in the same concerned manner. Cows milk too, can be healthy if purchased from a neighbor who has one family cow that is cared for with health and organics in mind. If it is the idea[cows milk is for calfs] that repulses you so, just remember, that is your own personal bias. I believe that God created animals for us in this life, it is our responsibility to care for them properly, and enjoy the fruits of our labor and of the land. The end product is only as healthy as what we have put into it. Please don't use a blanket statement to put all milk into one class for the expressed purpose of extolling your radical dislike of milk in general. Kathy Coe

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kathy,

There was a time in my life when I would have gone out of my way to drive to your farm and delight in your utopia, enjoying the milk from your goats and the cheeses that you must produce from their body fluids.

Cow's milk represents forty percent of the average American diet. It is rare to find goat's milk or goat's milk products in our supermarkets. Our diet contains dangerous animal fats and cholesterol. Proteins from cow's milk cause allergies in humans.

By studying bovine hormones and proteins I have conceptualized all milk as being intended for the young of each specific species. Your love and care for your animals paints a tranquil scene, but I cannot endorse milk for any creature other than the young of the species for whom it was originally intended. Most human adults are repulsed by the thought of drinking human breast milk because they instinctively are aware that it contains substances not intended for their bodies. So too am I aware that goat's milk is not intended for mine.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sarah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: new hampshire
Time: 1999-02-23 22:51:52
Comments: I am a strict vegetarian (borderline vegan) and I'm having a dickens of a time finding true non dairy cheeses. I know products like whey and casein are milk derivatives, but do you know what some of the other animal based ingredients are that I should be on the look out for? Thanks!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sarah,

I eat foods that are entirely plant-based. I began, not out of compassion to animals (although we should all reflect upon the pain that we bring to other creatures), but out of compassion to my own body.

I recently met a young person who was proud that she no longer ate any meat or dairy products. She told me that after this dietary change her ASTHMA had almost completely disappeared. I remarked, "When you discontinue all dairy products you'll see even more improvement." She then assured me that she ate no dairy. Imagine the look of surprise on her face when I asked, "Do you eat special 'K' cereal?" I then explained that she had to check labels for the presence of CASEIN, a milk protein. Please review this column for some examples of how casein can be found in the foods you eat:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/070598.html

Soy cheeses often contain casein as do non-dairy creamers. One has to read labels and continue to be well informed as you seem to be doing by seeking answers!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: what's it to you?
Time: 1999-02-23 07:59:00
Comments: your information is (censored). what the (censored). that's right, the whole (censored) is (censored) us and you guys are (censored). (censored) doesn't (censored) says who!? Milk protein CAUSES diabetes?!?!? they don't know what the link is (censored)! you page is (censored), and so are the (censored) that made it.

Dear Mike,

You do have a way with words. Was it something you ate? Your language is a bit cheesy!

As for milk protein causing diabetes...you are probably going to have indigestion after reading next Sunday's ANTIDAIRY Coalition column. (My advice: lay off the lactose!) I just received a confirming letter from an Under-Secretary at the United States Department of Agriculture agreeing with my conclusion. Meanwhile, here is some scientific evidence for you to consider...

WARNING: The following has been rated "G" for general audiences but it might curdle your sensibilities! :>)

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ny
Time: 1999-02-23 04:03:46
Comments: I thought growth hormones are non tranferable from one secies to another. Igf is only 0.00003% of total proteins. They are orally inactive and are not absorbed into the bloodstream. Any that do make it are of no significance as they are only extremely minute quantities. Tests have been done where growth hormones have been injected and have been found to have no results so how could ingested Igf be of any danger?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dan,

Boy, grading your paper is easy! Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong.

IGF-I in humans and cows is identical. Both have 70 amino acids in the same gene sequence.

Hormones work on a nanomolecular level. It takes only a tiny amount to exert a powerful biological effect. In her entire lifetime, a woman produces only one tablespoon of estrogen.

IGF-I in steak is NOT orally active. Neither is insulin. However, companies are now designing hormones like insulin to be orally active by encapsulating them inside of micronized liposomes (tiny fat molecules). HOMOGENIZATION provides this protection from enzymatic degradation. Milk hormones are protected and survive digestion.

Most measurable IGF-I in the human body is already bound to other proteins. The amount of "FREE" IGF-I in the human body is equal to the amount contained in one twelve ounce glass of milk.

Tests show that IGF-I does not work? That will be a disappointment to the Olympic weight lifters and European swimmers who currently inject this hormone. Unlike steroid hormones, there is NO TEST to detect the same exact hormone that is naturally produced in the human body.

Wanna try the extra credit question?

Why is it that the British medical journal LANCET called IGF-I the KEY factor in the growth and proliferation of all human breast cancers?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Alaska
Time: 1999-02-23 01:35:58
Comments: Mr. Cohen, the main reason that i felt compelled to write was the fact of your handling ms. Koch. granted some of her points were very strongly worded which she kindly edited out for us. Regards, Jeremiah

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeremiah,

Your comments come in response to LETTER # 837. I do not tolerate vile language on this GUESTBOOK page. Many search engines and filters do not allow children to visit a site when obscenities are mixed into the content. I was the censor, not Ms. Koch.

Ms. Koch remarked that she would have tons of broken bones if she did not drink milk. My response to her claim was made with humor. I invite you to check out her letter again.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Geoff Cadogan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Iowa
Time: 1999-02-22 23:48:02
Comments: Does this relate just to cow's milk? What about mother's milk or goat milk. When my sisters drank goat's milk there where no milk alergies reported. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Geoff,

Human breast milk is the ideal food for baby humans, not baby cows. Pig milk is the ideal food for baby pigs, not baby dogs. Dog's milk is the ideal food for puppies, not humans.

Milk of one species is the natural food for the young of that species. Proteins from those animals are allergenic in our bodies. These foreign invaders are antigens and we form antibodies to their presence.

Casein, the most abundant protein in milk is mucus forming. Whether you, as an adult, get it from human breast milk or dog's milk or goat or cow milk, it will create histamines which result in mucus and congestion to your body organs.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-02-22 19:44:52
Comments: In your weekly opinion column 21/02/99 you imply that homogenization is the means by which bovine proteins survive digestion intact. I thought that these proteins survived because milk buffers the pH of the stomache and casein helps to protect these proteins from being destroyed. Are you saying, then, that homogenization is a mistake by man that is causing even more of these proteins to survive digestion? (ie non-homogenized milk is still dangerous but just not as dangerous).

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Nicholas,

That is exactly what I am saying.

Like the earth's atmosphere which protects the surface of our planet from radiation and cosmic debris, the body's defenses protect the human system from potential hazards contained within our foods. The acid in our stomach breaks proteins down into their basic amino acids which are essential to our survival. The intestinal gut lumen denies entry of large substances into the bloodstream. The blood's components "attack" and destroy foreign "invaders" which happen to bypass the first two lines of defense.

MILK from nursing mothers was designed to contain substances (hormones, lactoferrins and immunoglobulins) which bypass digestion. Cow's milk comes from nursing mother cows whose lactations are used to feed humans.

Milk buffers gastric pH and the hormones, enzymes and cholesterol so contained are not broken down in the stomach. HOMOGENIZATION artificially creates smaller fat molecules which contain the tiny protein hormones that are small enough to fit through the intestinal wall where they enter the bloodstream, still protected. These hormones circulate in protected liposomal capsules, much like "time-release cold capsules" illustrated in television advertisements.

These powerful growth hormones are identical to human hormones which have been identified as the key factor to the growth of human breast and prostate cancers.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Brian McCandliss
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Detroit
Time: 1999-02-22 10:03:24
Comments: Although this is very informative, I would be interested to see the actual results of both field studies and controlled experiments which contrast the epidemiology of various illnesses in normal Americans vs. non-consumers of milk products (alactarians?) where this is the sole independent variable. As a scientist who was driven to the study of law out of frustration with governmental indifference and cronyism, I fully appreciate the necessity to look out for ourselves, having taken the attitude of "buyer beware, 'cuz the law don't care." However, I also stress the scientific need for skepticism demanding the results of actual experimental data in spite of seeming logical evidence. While milk is a questionable dietary staple, I have yet to see posted here such evidence signifigantly indicating a causative link with these illnesses; if such evidence exists, please let me know.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brian,

Over three hundred sceientific studies appear in "MILK-The Deadly Poison." I do not have the entire book yet up on this site. However, I suggest that you review a portion of the book, a brilliantly researched letter from the esteemed surgeon, Robert Kradjian, MD. which satisfies your request for such referenced studies.

http://www.afpafitness.com/MILKDOC.HTM

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Gary Grenfell
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-02-22 02:26:26
Comments: Answer me this. From 1920 onwards, the consumption of milk in the United States has decreased significantly. From the 1960's onwards, milk consumption was cut in half in adults and reduced by 25% in children. Cancers, any oncological occurrences in fact, have increased significantly since 1920, beyond the identification factor attributable to improved detection capacity. So, where does that, statistically, leave your whacko little theories?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Gary,

Your "statistics" are incorrect. According to USDA, the 2+ quarts of milk Americans consumed in the 30's, 40's and 50's decreased to 1.9 quarts in the sixties and plateaued at 1.6 quarts per person per day as of 1970 where is has remained constant through 1998. You can read the actual numbers in today's ANTIDAIRY Coalition column. The link to that column is contained within this letter.

CANCER RATES have *exploded* and have accelerated throughout the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's as a result of an artificial mechanism applied to the processing of milk. Milk naturally contains powerful growth hormones. Genetically engineered milk (first introduced to the public in 1990 from test herds) contains increased amounts of the same powerful naturally occurring hormones. By insuring their survival, we have observed an enormous increase in cancer rates.

Homogenization may very well be the man-made mechanism most responsible for today's unacceptable cancer death rates. As a result of homogenization, increased amounts of insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) bypass the hypothetical construct known as "gut closure" because of the protection offered by micronized liposomes. This powerful growth hormone, identical in humans and cows has been called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast and prostate cancers. For a real timeline on milk consumption rates and the role that homogenization plays in enabling hormones to survive digestion, read today's ANTIDAIRY Coalition column.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/022199.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jennifer
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Michigan
Time: 1999-02-21 22:00:08
Comments: I heard you on the radio Friday, Feb 20 on WXYT. My husband and I sat in the car long after we arrived at our destination just so we could hear all that you have to say. About nine years ago I had been dealing with violent attacks of irritable bowel syndrome. The doctors I had seen continued to tell me to drink plenty of milk, as it would coat my stomach and ease the pains. I ended up losing about 20 pounds in one year, and I am a very petite person to start with. I decided on my own to STOP drinking milk, eating ice cream, drink my coffee black and cut way back on cheeses. This was completely against what the doctors told me to do, but I was so sick and not getting any better, I was desperate. It did not take long for me to begin to feel better, and began to gain the weight back. I was convinced that milk was NOT something I should be putting into my body. Cows milk is for cows, not for humans. We are the only species on earth that drinks milk from other animals. But not many people understood my opinion on this, and many dismissed my view as absurd. Now recently, my husband and I are trying to conceive a baby. Many of my friends have been warning me that I will cause problems for the baby if I don't drink milk. A doctor I visited told me that I need to increase my dairy intake. I was starting to get alarmed, and actually considered trying to drink milk again, which I dreaded. I know that calcium is important, but I know that there are many other ways to obtain it if I continue to eat properly. I am so glad that we heard you on the radio, it has eased my mind to know that NOT drinking milk is perhaps one of the healthiest things I have been doing. Now, after reading your website and after hearing you on the radio, the thought of consuming any dairy makes my stomach turn on its own. Thank you for all your research and information.

Name: Amy
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 1999-02-21 19:41:40
Comments: I totally agree with almost everything you have said. My mother, now a vegan, was the biggest milk drinker in the world. I loved it, too, and wanted it for every meal, and sometimes even to relax me at night. When I started voice lessons, I was having a hard time singing because I had to keep on clearing my throat. When I was sick, milk would also thicken my mucus, making it even more impossible to breath than before. I also always seemed to be dragged down and I had no energy. I guess we never made the connection with milk; with all the pro-milk advertisements, etc, going around, how could we?? Finally my mother kept on coming across articles in magazines that told her how bad milk was, and finally we cought on. Today I am a more lively and energetic person, and I get all the calcium I need from suppliments, soy milk and kale! Thanks for you wonderful page, I hope it inspires others!

Name: ed davison jr
Website:
Referred by: SimpleNet
From: box 357 Tawas mi 48764
Time: 1999-02-21 02:07:13
Comments: heard mr cohen on the radio wwj detroit,mi

Name: Dwayne Reid
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Ypsilanti Michigan
Time: 1999-02-21 01:24:41
Comments: I heard the author on WXYT, talk radio in Detroit on friday and was completely floored by what I heard. I have ordered a couple of copies of the book because they were sold out at Barnes and Nobles in Ann Arbor. I salute what you have uncovered. I have a mother and a close friend who suffer from adult-onset diabetes, and I have cleared my home of all dairy products. I am going to be a one man wrecking crew for getting this news out. Keep me abreast of what happens on your end. I'm praying for you!

Name: Mark
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Michigan
Time: 1999-02-21 00:03:18
Comments: Wanted to share these symptoms with you. Within a short time of consuming most types of dairy, I will get symptoms that include erratic heartbeat, shortness of breath, a full chest, and dizziness. I can sometimes lessen this with monster belching, facilitated by a carbonated beverage. Symptoms may last as long as a day. Ever hear of such a thing?. Could this be life threatening? By the way, I'm not consuming much dairy these days.

NOTMILKMAN'S COIMMENT:

Dear Mark,

For some people, exposure to bovine proteins can be instantly deadly. By your reaction, you share something in common with President Clinton, who allows no dairy to be served at White House dinners. If Clinton ate ice cream he would go into anaphalactic shock. This reaction is life threatening and includes the symptoms you mention.

For most people, milk is a slow killer, contributing to asthma, cancer, diabetes and heart disease. For ALL people, MILK is a Deadly Poison.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-02-20 19:20:08
Comments: Robert, Where on earth do you get your information? Every book written says theories about what causes Crohn's disease abound,BUT NONE HAS BEEN PROVEN. The most popular theory is that the body's immune system reacts to a virus or a bacterium by causing ongoing inflammation in the intestine. People with Crohn's disease tend to have abnormalities of the immune system, but doctors do not know whether these abnormalities are a cause or result of the disease. Crohn's disease is not caused by emotional distress. Maybe you should leave medicine to REAL doctors? As always, Jim PS.Please post all of this if you choose to post any of it.Thanks.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

There is a bacteria in milk that is not killed by pasteurization. This bacteria is called mycobacterium paratuberculosis. It causes irritable bowel syndrome, and six million Americans are so affected. Irritable bowels often lead to a Crohn's diagnosis. Most Crohn's patients test positive to this bacteria. Many doctors blame milk. This same bacteria causes a similar disease in cows called Johne's disease which is one of the great fears of every dairy farmer. USDA and FDA have participated in a scientific fraud, deceiving farmers and consumers into believing that their milk is safe. I have written about this fraud in great detail and submit my columns for your review.

The first column details the phony protocol used by USDA. Milk is usually pasteurized for 15 seconds at 162 degrees Fahrenheit. USDA pasteurized milk for 15 minutes, not 15 seconds, and could not kill this dangerous bacteria. At thirty minutes they succeeed. The USDA study reflected how well the bacteria survives, yet, FDA concluded that pasteruization worked to eliminate the problem. This was a lie.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/062898.html

The second column includes the name of a Florida doctor with 51 Crohn's patients. Ninety-two percent of his patients test positive to this bacteria, not killed by pasteurization. Who is the FDA and USDA working for? Is it the American people, or the dairy industry?

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/080998.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: John Goldsworthy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Troy, MI
Time: 1999-02-20 10:11:23
Comments: I heard you on AM 1270 WXYT with Mark Scott today (2-19-99). The information was very interesting especially since my girlfriend was diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome - and drinks lots of milk. The primary reason she drinks it is because she is afraid of osteoporosis and is trying to get more calcium. Thanks for the information. This will certainly change my dietary habits.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear John,

Four million American women have irritable bowel syndrome which may lead to Crohn's disease. There is a direct link to this constant diarrhea from milk consumption. A bacteria in milk NOT killed by pasteurization is the cause. That bacteria is called mycobacterium paratuberculosis. Cows get Johne's disease and also have constant diarrhea.

Got Milk? Got problems!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kathy Coe
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Mi
Time: 1999-02-20 09:37:29
Comments: Is there any major advantage of goats milk vs cows milk. We have a small herd of healthy Nubian dairy goats. We drink the milk raw. Please tell me the disadvantages, as well as the advantages of this. We feed our goats a healthful diet of grains(og when possible) kelp, sunflower seeds, brewers yeast, flax seeds, flax oil..... Also, I've heard a lot of good things about colostrum supplements being loaded with beneficial nutrients. What are your thoughts on this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kathy,

If you had asked me the same question about human breast milk, explaining to me that you ate brewers yeast and flax seed and supplied the nutritional needs of your family by giving them your breast milk, I would ask, why? I would tell you that human breastmilk contains substances meant for the human infant. That includes hundreds of different proteins, hormones, lactoferins and immunoglobulins.

The casein in goat's milk is similar in percentage to the casein in human breast milk. The casein in cow's milk is triple that of breast milk and goat's milk. My bottom line is that human breast milk is the perfect formula for baby humans. Goat's milk is the perfect food for baby goats.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Craig A. Van Bibber
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ROCHESTER HILLS, MICHIGAN
Time: 1999-02-20 04:10:36
Comments: HELLO MR. ROBERT COHEN.............:) I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO YOU ON THE MARK SCOTT RADIO PROGRAM ON 1270 AM. I FEEL VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HEARD SUCH AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE REGARDING THE FALSEHOODS OF CONSUMING DAIRY PRODUCTS. I WISH I COULD ATTEND YOUR CONFERENCE - TOO FAR, TOO SOON. YOUR RESEARCH IS AMAZING!!!! I CAN'T WAIT TO EXPLORE YOUR WEB SITE AND BUY YOUR BOOK! THANK YOU FOR OPENING MY EYES TO ANOTHER CHAPTER IN GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION.......SINCERELY CRAIG A. VANBIBBER

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-02-19 09:36:52
Comments: Robert, Did you know that The Canadian government has decided not to approve the use of genetically engineered bovine somatotropin (BST), nine years after the products manufacturer first sought approval of BST in Canada. Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala said that the FDA “has determined that the Canadian reviewers did not interpret relevant data correctly, and has reaffirmed its 1993 finding that milk from cows treated with [BST] is safe for human consumption.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mr. Van Winkle,

Canada turned down MONSANTO'S application five weeks ago.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011799.html

Nine weeks ago Canadian scientists uncovered evidence of MONSANTO'S fraud and the American government's complicity in approving a hormone that WAS orally active in laboratory animals. After the courageous act of these Canadian scientists, the files were stolen from a locked safe.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/122098.html

Donna Shalala posed for a milk pustache ad and is an original member of the ANTIDAIRY Coalition's HALL OF SHAME:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/shame.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dave
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-02-19 08:27:30
Comments: Robert, It's funny how the people (idiots) on this board who are pro-milk usually have the english language skills of a 2nd grader...Dave

Name: Dawnfire (Amy)
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NB,CANADA
Time: 1999-02-19 03:03:40
Comments: Hello. My good friend Sara told me about this site,so I decided to check it out. I'm sorry to say that I would have to disagree with a large majority of your information. I'm not a genius and I can't quote you statistics, however I can tell you what I have personally observed. I have a friend who lives on a dairy farm. The cows are her farm are taken excellent care of. They even take their cows to various shows around Canada. If a cow can ever be fully happy and content,then I would have to say that these cows are. Animals do not feel the same way people do, the best they exhibit is a natural God-Given instinct. That is why it is not cruel to separate them at birth. These cows do not have 'real' feelings for each other in the sense that you seem to believe. Most mothers of all species are protective of their young, but that doesn't mean they 'love' them. It's all part of survival. Their instincts are to protect their young until they can fend for themselves,then they leave them to do with themselves what they will. When a calf is born it is removed from its mother almost immediatly,so the mother's instincts do not completly take hold of her. The calf is rarely "chained to a wall" My friend's calf go into a special stall where they are taught how to drink from a bucket and to eat special feed. Most of the females are kept,not killed as you stated. People have been drinking milk ever since we were first put on this Earth, my 76-year-old Grandmother drinks a lot of milk,and she's as spry as anyone could wish for! So while you are entitled to your own opinion, I just wanted to let you know how I feel and hope you might give some consideration to what I've said and don't rely too heavily on 'the facts' Zhai'helleva! Dawnfire aka Amy

Name: KIM KOCH
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minneapolis
Time: 1999-02-16 04:55:37
Comments: I think your page is the biggest bunch of (censored) that I Have ever heard if it wasn't for milk I would have tons of broken bones by now. I am very dissatisfied with your poor taste in bashing milk. That is entirly a bunch of (censored) and if it causes Cancer then what in this world doesn't cause cancer?? I will be very proud to admit that I drink my 3 glases of milk aday and love every last gulp!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kim,

By your EMAIL address I have deduced that you attend the University of Minnesota. By your spelling and punctuation I have deduced that you are not an English major. You've avoided "tons of broken bones?" You're not pre-med either. Maybe you should be put on a weight loss program. Perhaps those powerful growth hormones in milk are the reason you need "tons of bones" to support your body weight. I had to censor a bit of your vile language. Just a guess... you're not studying for the Priesthood, are you?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

(NOTE: KIMBERLY IS A FRESHMAN AND A LIBERAL ARTS MAJOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, TWIN CITIES CAMPUS).


Name: Hollis H
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: NW Ohio
Time: 1999-02-15 23:02:08
Comments: Well, this just goes to show that I am more clever than I thought when I switched to rice milk and soy milk as my primary sources of "milk." Since I grew up in dairy-land u.s.a., and thought milk was the ONLY food (okay, I ate ripe olives a great deal, too) worth having in the house, this was a major change! And, yes, you will get congested when you have dairy--which includes Bailey's Irish Cream-----bummer. Nice site!! h2

Name: June Cleeland
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-02-15 16:07:09
Comments: I love milk. Leave it alone Mr Cohen and cohorts. I am a calf. You humans should stick to soy milk and coca cola.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Calf,

A baby is supposed to drink her mother's milk, but you are separated from your mom at birth and chained to a stall so that your muscles do not grow firm. You are made to be anemic so that your flesh remains pink, becoming white when cooked. Your own mother's milk is not fed to you because the dairyfarmer receives $14 per hundred pounds. That would not be a cost-effective thing for the farmer to do, so you must suffer.

First, you experience the pain of separation. No child and few adults could witness the crying that you and your mother endure upon separation and not be emotionally scarred. Your life then goes downhill very rapidly; the final moments of fear occur as you are led to slaughter. A sharp blade ends your suffering.

Your mother must give birth to you so that her lactations continue. She would produce no milk if she did not first give birth to her baby whose fate it is to be tortured and tormented in one of society's greatest cruelties.

There are many vegetarians who call themselves "compassionate," yet continue to drink the milk reserved for your body. By doing so, they directly support the veal industry and are as guilty of causing pain as any meat eater whom they continue to criticize.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Joanne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Northeast
Time: 1999-02-15 13:26:19
Comments: I believe that my lactose intolerance goes beyond bloating and gas. I suspect it's behind a very troublesome phenomenon which happens to me on a regular basis: several evenings a week, I start to feel excess mucus/phlegm building up in my lungs. I start to clear my throat, then cough, for a couple of hours, annoying me and my family. I have a feeling dairy products (does milk choc. count?) could be the culprit, even tho I pop those lactaid pills. Have you heard anyone else complain of this? I am going to drop dairy from my diet completely as of tomorrow and see what happens. Meanwhile, please share your thoughts with me. thanks.Looking forward to your response.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Joanne,

You have confirmed that which I continue to talk and write about. Lactose intolerance is very well publicized but CASEIN intolerance is what plagues most dairy consumers.

ALL humans are CASEIN intolerant. Few learn to identify the symptoms. Lactose is a milk sugar. CASEIN is a milk protein. Eighty percent of milk protein is CASEIN. There is an antidote for lactose problems but that antidote does nothing to eliminate the other 100+ problems produced milk and dairy products. You manufacture 100 different antigens to invasive bovine proteins, evidence that they survive digestion.

Try an easy experiment. Elimainate ALL milk and dairy products for just five days. On day six, eat just one slice of pizza. Wait twelve hours. You will produce mucus and your next bowel movement will be as uncomfortable as it gets! After that, you should be convinced about milk and dairy. You have to weigh your options. On one hand, milk and dairy products are delicious. On the other hand, they immediately cause discomfort, add dangerous fats and cholesterol which have long term effects on your cardiovascular system, and quietly provide growth affects with hormones that are inappropriate for the human body.

If you need any more reason to eliminate dairy products from your body, review portions of FLO-JO'S autopsy. Fifteen hours after she at pizza, there was a 250 cc mass of undigested food in her stomach with "flecks of cheese." This undigested cheese, the size of a brick, caused FLO JO to produce histamines which in turn created mucus. She choked on her body fluids.

"The lobes of the lungs are light-pink-to-dark-purple with marked congestion and a large amount of frothy fluid exuding with pressure. The lumen of the tracheobronchial tree contains mucus and frothy fluid." Flo Jo's lungs were congested. She could not breathe.

OTHER BODY ORGANS - ALL CONGESTED

"The small and large bowels show congestion... the liver has a congested appearance... pancreas, congested appearance... the pyramids of the kidneys are congested... section shows marked acute congestion... cut sections of the adrenal glands show acute congestion... a large amount of frothy fluid is present in the larynx... cut sections of the thyroid gland show congestion... congestion is noted in the pancreas... On and on, organ after organ, filled with a glue produced by the body's defense to this powerful allergen and tenacious glue, CASEIN.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jessica Pomraning
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-02-13 21:46:04
Comments: This web-site is full of lies. Milk is the best drink around. Not only does it taste great, it is extremely nutritious for your body. Anyone who believes this needs their head examined.

Anyone who believes YOU (oh Email-less/unacountable one)
needs to have their body fully examined!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: carl potter
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1999-02-13 08:50:27
Comments: Why you little (censored). I am A farmer I've never heard such a load of bull. I drink probably 2 or 3 gallons of milk a day. I've never been to a doctor in my life since I was born. I have more energy than you I'll bet. Why don't you go pick on the softdrink industry. My cows are extremely healthy and their teats are clean enough too suck on when I milk them. my bacteria count is 1000. Maybe if you actually worked for a living you would have something else to do besides attack hard working honest people Well I'm going to go have a glass of milk or maybe 2

Well, Mr. Farmer, now that I know the WHOLE truth about milk and dairy, and the
roll of IGF-1 (think of it as a "cancer fuel cell") you can have a LOT more to
sip because my once heavy use of cow's milk and dairy is about ZERO. Drink up!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Verne Gelvin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Right now I'm in Mississippi.
Time: 1999-02-13 06:39:39
Comments: Mr Cohen, I listened to you when you were interviewed on WMC radio in Memphis one Saturday.. The things you had to say blew my mind! I listened with a friend. We had just bought 15 containers of yogurt at the store and when the show was over we just looked at each other and couldn't eat any! I'm not a scientist, so I can't quote formulas or equations but I took your five day test and avoided all dairy products for five days. On the sixth day I ate normally - cheese, butter, some milk on cereal. Ice cream. Pizza for dinner. The next day I was miserable with gastric distress and my head was all stopped up. It felt familiar. I realized I had grown used to feeling like that. From now on I'm avoiding dairy products whenever I can and it's not that hard. It's been about six months and I haven't felt "blah" and my head hasn't felt stopped up, either. Plus, no colds! There must be something to it.

Name: Keith Erlandson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-02-13 01:00:25
Comments: First, pastuerization is not intended to kill all microorganisms. It is intended to reduce PATHOGENIC bacteria. Microbes are all around us and the vast majority are harmless. Some even perform helpful services for us. You would be pretty plugged up if not for the bacteria in your intestines. Second, cows udders are cleaned before they are milked. Third, Milk does not cause mucas formation. Fourth, why is human milk good, but cow milk bad? Fifth, say hi to Mulder, Scully and the little green men who are forcing us to injest such a deadly toxin.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Keith,

Pasteurization is not intended to kill all microorganisms? You could have fooled 270 million Americans...Cow's udders are cleaned? You should witness an actual milking and see the sludge which collects in those white filters. Milk does not cause mucus? Try going for five days and eat no milk or dairy products and have just one slice of pizza on day six. Twelve hours later you will experience some congestion.

You ask "Why is human milk good and cow milk bad?" Human milk is the perfect food for a baby human and cow milk the perfect food for a baby cow. Pig's milk is for piggies and dog's milk for puppies.

As for those little green men...imagine them landing in Korea and observing earthlings eating dogs. Then they travel to France and observe Parisians eating horseflesh, a great delicacy. Next stop is Tanzania where the Maasai mix fresh blood with milk and preserve it with animal dung which kills the bacteria, then it's dinner time. Their last stop is America. Here we ridicule dog eaters and horse eaters and blood/milk/feces eaters while we chew on bones from baby cows who have been separated from their mothers...talk about the compassion of man, and we give these delicacies fancy names like osso bucco or veal parmegiana. Most earthlings go to church every Sunday and pray to a God and fight wars over different interpretations of their God's words, yet, they violate the word of their God who instructs them never to cook a baby animal in the milk of its mother (veal and cheese).

Sixty percent of the cows in America have bovine leukemia and eighty percent have mycobacterium paratuberculosis. We drink body fluids from diseased animals and are unable to kill the germs, because, you admit in your first sentence that pasteurization is not intended to kill microorganisms.

Those little green men might use a Martian word and call the meat eaters and milk drinkers MESHUGANAH! Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: paul
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-02-12 23:15:14
Comments: IGF-1 is a peptide hormone, and as such it is broken down long before it could reach the bloodstream. Why do you think people with diabetes need to give themselves injections rather than taking insulin orally? It would not work, since in order to do it's job it needs to travel through the bloodstram, and would be broken down before it could get there if introduced into the GI tract.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Paul,

IGF-I (Insuling-like growth factor-I) AND EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor) are both protein peptides...both similar in size (under 10,000 daltons). EGF survives digestion and enters the bloodstream intact, or haven't you studied that chapter yet in Endocrinology class?

In cow's milk, IGF-I is protected by casein FROM gut degradation. When milk is homogenized, liposomes (fat molecules) are micronized (made smaller) so that they become carrier vehicles for "delicate" protein hormones.

Men have an easy time of believing that hormones, lactoferins and immunoglobulins in milk do not work because they are destroyed. Nursing mothers and their pediatricians know that these hormones survive digestion. Science has confirmed that delicate protein peptides do indeed survive digestion.

If human breastfeeding passes anything more than nurturing benefits to the infant then you have to believe that drinking cow's milk contains similar mechanisms to protects its own hormones.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-02-12 09:21:01
Comments: Robert, Yep, you are absolutley right! The FDA allows 20,000 bacteria per ml. in Grade "A" pasteurized milk.Unfortunately the competition doesn't! You see these bacteria that you talk about are the critters that cause milk to spoil and if you were to package it with 20,000 CFU/ml it wouldn't last very long in the grocery stores.It's kind of like having a car that can go 120 mph.Just becuause it can go that fast doesn't mean you are going to drive it that fast now does it? I'd be willing to bet you that if you were to check with some of the regulatory people who do the tests for bacteria on milk and dairy you'd find out like I did that about 90% of the products they test don't even have 10% of the 20,000 colonies per ml. allowed by the FDA.If this sounds a bit confusing I'm sure I can explain further if needs be. As always, Jim in Oregon

STUPID QUESTIONS:
1)Why would the government, in its wisdom (or lack thereof) allow such a standard if it does not last long on the shelves? 2)How many dairy farmers would go out of business if the standard was cut in half? 3)How many farmers would be in business if the standard was just ten percent of what it is now? That would allow 2000 bacteria per milliliter or about 2 million bacterial cells per quart.

ANSWERS:
1)You just cannot get rid of the bacteria because pasteurization does NOT work. Bacteria counts double every 20 minutes at room temperature.

Bacteria counts double every 20 hours in the refrigerator at 40 degrees Fahrenheit.

2) Some...
3) Zero

BOTTOM LINE:
Like a ticking time bomb... there is no defusing the real issue. The results can be deadly.


NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

Ever see those crash dummies after those 120 MPH cars hit brick walls? They resemble the LAND O' LAKES company which just went through a nation-wide recall of 270,000 cases of dairy products in 50 states.

Every American knows that pasteurization does not work. Eight days of milk in a refrigerator and the smell can be quite offensive. The milk is poured down the drain on day eight and poured on Rice Krispies on day seven. Bon apetit!

Can you say SALMONELLA? ESCHERICHIA COLI? CLOSTRIDIUM? MYCOBACTERIUM PARATUBERCULOSIS? CAMPHLOBACTER? STREPTOCOCCUS? STAPHLOCCI? SHIGELLA? HOW ABOUT LISTERIA?

Listeria was the reason for the massive milk recall. Take a look at listeria and note that it grows at 50 degrees Fahrenheit. When it comes out of the cow, when it's on the truck, when it's sitting in an aisle before they shelve it at the supermarket, when it's in your car on the way home, when it sits in a creamer at your diner, when it's in cheese served at room temperature...Ever see America's schools at lunchtime? Crates of milk sit in the hallways, waiting for their little consumers who bring home the gifts of infectious diseases for the entire family. Mom's response: "It's going around."

http://medic.med.uth.tmc.edu/path/00001447.htm

There have been numerous cases of food poisoning in the United States. Fruits and vegetables do not normally contain feces. Neither does poultry and beef. Milk is another matter. What drips down cow's legs ends up in the milk and that is why filters are mandated, by law. The cream rises to the top and the feces hits the wall like that 120 MPH car. Wouldn't it be interesting for all Americans to see what is collected in that mandatory filter? Brown stuff...NOTDIRT!

GOT FECES?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sara
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: N.B., Canada
Time: 1999-02-12 01:48:13
Comments: I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD GIVE IT UP!!! EVERYONE KNOWS MILK IS GOOD FOR U WELL, MOST NORMAL PEOPLE. ANYWAY NO MATER WHAT YOU GUYS SAY I WILL ALWAYS DRINK MILK. INFACT I THINK I AM GOING TO GO GET A BIG GLASS OF MILK WRITE NOW.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sara,

This is your third visit to this GUESTBOOK over the last two weeks. You first came here on January 30th (Guestbook message number 791). At that time you used vile language and finished your comment with a wish that I would die. Not a very classy way for a lady to talk, especially a lady from Canada.

You then visited on February 9th (Guestbook message number 818). You had nothing nice to say to me and nothing to substantiate your argument. Today, your third post is neither clever, pleasant nor does it address a milk issue. Three strikes and you're out, Sara.

Perhaps you would find more of an intellectual challenge befitting your abilities by visiting the well-respected pro-dairy site:

http://www.moomilk.com/game.htm

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Wes
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-02-11 09:50:43
Comments: Is 'civilization' becoming a nursery? In almost every household one finds mother's breast milk -- from cows... and products made from it. People indirectly sucking on cow nipples? Is it possible? Has humanity lost its mind? Kind of an odd thing, to be drinking/eating the food which a four-legged mother cow produced that was intended for the calf. Hormones and allergenic proteins circulating through people's bodies and brains/minds... Could this be the culprit in so many problems and disorders that afflict humanity and ways of thinking and doing? Breast milk rendered into a glue-like substance and cooked, added to so many 'foods' -- "cheese". Very clogging to the arteries, cells, and sinuses... Why such a ridiculous practice? And after Bessie endures the continual onslaught of having her breast milk artificially sucked from her udder by a machine (all the while being regularly innoculated with antibiotics to "treat" the infections incurred in her breasts by such a practice), she one day succombs to premature 'old age' and is then killed, and her corpse is ground up and made into hamburger...and sold to McDonald's, Burger (murder) King, etc. ... And guess what is put on that corpse (er, "meat") after it is cooked (rendered inert so as to be made 'palatable')? -- Cooked breast milk (cheese) from some other cow!!! Can you believe humanity's dietary habits??! INSANE! Forgive me if the above looks accusatory or judgemental; try to see it with a bit of humor. :^) But in reality it's not all so funny, as it is O D D ! Wes

Name: valerie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-02-11 07:54:33
Comments: I like this site very much! It only reinforces what I've known for awhile, that milk makes people ill. For 20 years I had sinus problems and more recently a "thyroid problem" that has almost vanished completely since I went veg. I just hope I don't get thyroid cancer from all of the years of drinking the @$#%! It shocks me that people find this information so scandalous. The advertisements have done their job well for the Dairy Council BUT THEY AREN"T GETTING ONE MORE DIME OUT OF ME. If you "got milk" I hope you have a "got sick" fund to help with all the doctor visits and medications.

Name: Suzanne Byrne
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Australia - Melbourne
Time: 1999-02-11 07:07:53
Comments: A few months ago I knew nothing about the dangers posed by certain food groups. I had been educated to believe that a 'balanced' diet was all that I needed to remain (or become) healthy. After a visit to my Kinesiologist (Natural Health Care Professional) it was pointed out to me that perhaps certain areas of my diet could be causing problems in Physical and Emotional Systems. Subsequently I have removed Dairy, Yeast and Artifical Sweetners from my diet. Needless to say, my health, vitatility and energy have improved dramatically. The only thing that remains is to re-educate my Mother.

Name: guy that likes milk
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: San Diego California
Time: 1999-02-11 07:04:19
Comments: dude your dumb we need milk, milk is oviously not poison or we will all be dead!

OK.

WHO told you that you need milk from another species (why no other!)?
WHY do you suppose they told you that milk was necessary for you?
WHEN do you suppose they will tell you the WHOLE truth?
WHERE do you suppose you will end up in later years?

Mr. Cohen has given you all the answers... and since your mind is closed that leaves you VERY
vulnerable (voluntarily). He did this DESPITE the fact that he loved the taste of dairy, despite
a lifetime of constant disinformation, and despite all critics (yourself included).

As an ex-dairy user I lament my own ignorance that has led me to be the first among my
long-lived ancestors to get any type of cancer... and my old-man's prostate cancer was
classified as terminal at the young age of 55. SOMETHING made it grow so fast... and
there is only ONE HORMONE that makes cancers grow... the IGF-1 so plentiful
in milk and dairy!

Enjoy YOUR probably shortened lifespan, oh "guy that likes milk". On a personal note I can
vouch for the fact that cancer meds are expensive, very life-style altering, and this disease
SUCKS! But... on the bright side... more and more good folks are getting cancer so I am
assured lots of company.

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Marina
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Cambridge,ON., Canada
Time: 1999-02-10 08:46:33
Comments: I used to be a milk lover. While pregnant with my first baby i drank tons of milk, my doctor actually asked me to cut back as I was putting on too much weight. My son was born in July, 1997. He is still breastfed now at 19 months. For the first 9 weeks of his life he had nothing but trouble. He cried for hours at a time,(from the time I fed him to the time he would stop crying, would last 5-6hrs.) My husband and I were exhausted and would hold our beautiful boy in our arms or on our chests so that the poor guy could get some sleep. Doctors said colic. Finally, a Le Leche League leader suggested I try eliminating milk from my diet as my wee boy would get it through my milk (I would just like to add that formula NEVER crossed his lips, another horrible so called food for babies). I immediately took action to her suggestion and stopped ALL milk consumption. Within 24 hours his crying for hours on end stopped. To this day he cannot tolerate ANY milk product and I've given up on trying to force it, I don't like putting him through the pain of digesting it. He gets horrible gas, his little tummy gets rock hard and he cries. I'm told it's not an allergy because he doesn't get a rash. I'm told it's lactose intolerance but yet he cannot tolerate the Lactaid/Lacteeze products either. I continue to breastfeed so that he still gets all the nutrients and fatty acids for brain development (I could go on forever about the benefits of breast milk). He gets soy milk on his cereal and the occasional glass with his cookies. He's healthy and thriving, smart as a whip and doesn't miss milk because he's never had it. I don't believe anymore that milk is the wonderful food it is portrayed to be by a lot of people. I think a lot of women would breastfeed longer if this was suggested to them when their babies have this kind of trouble, but instead a lot get told to give a soy based formula instead. It was a little hard for me to give up milk in the beggining, after all I grew up on it, but I got used to it and the small sacrafice on my part was more than worth the wonderful health of my son today. We're both milk free. And pizza without cheese is just as good as it with. We're not complaining.

Name: Jared Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Peensylvania
Time: 1999-02-10 04:32:47
Comments: I think your page is a disgrace to the internet. It is full of lies. Much of your information came from preliminary studies that have now changed after further study. I think you need to get some real facts, and update this page. Give the people the TRUTH. Can you say that, because your page doesn't.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jared,

You have to be congratulated for you wonderful sense of timing. America is in the middle of the largest food recall in its history because PASTEURIZATION does not really kill bacteria. LAND OF LAKES has had 1/2 million cases of products recalled across America and you claim that my page is a disgrace to the internet? I have been saying and writing this for two years. Funny...you have no specifics in your letter. I say that each sip of milk has 59 different bioactive hormones. I say that eighty percent of milk protein is casein, the same glue used to hold a label to a bottle of beer...a tenacious glue that also acts as a powerful allergin. I invite you to submit any of your "new" informaton, Jared.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Clay
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York
Time: 1999-02-10 01:36:00
Comments: I can't speak scientifically about the material on this site, but I can say that every day I see some kind of recall in the news relating to either meat or dairy. I gave up dairy almost 2 months ago, prior to that I had severe sinus problems almost daily. I used to take sinus pills on a daily basis. Since giving dairy up, I have not had ANY problems. My skin is clearer and I have lost weight. I feel better and feel less sluggish too. I recommend giving it up forever to everyone. Dr. McDougall recommends giving up dairy, and so do I.

Name: silvia
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: washington, d.c.
Time: 1999-02-09 03:03:31
Comments: Thanks for the information on your site. I wanted to remind myself of the reason why I don't push my 18-month old son to drink cow's milk. I have always breastfed him, and at close to his first birthday I introduced him to cow's milk (as all the baby books, pediatricians, and nurses suggest). He drank it a couple times a week, maybe 2 to 4 ounces. By the time he was 15 months, he drank less and less until he refused to drink straight cow's milk. I figured he was making this choice for a reason and didn't push the issue. I do make his cereal with milk, but we are choosing to give him less and less food made from cow's milk. By the way, the dry skin and eczema he was suffering last summer(!) cleared up as his cow milk consumption diminished. I wish more mother's knew the damage they are causing their babies and children by giving them a lot of milk and formula made from the same. Asthma and eczema have become common baby ailments and if cow's milk has something to do with it what a shame!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mom,

Your son taught you that he does not like milk. You have since learned that his body reacts negatively to cow's milk. Why would you want to pour body fluids from other animals on his cereal? There are many alternatives now found in supermarkets including rice, soy and almond milks.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sara
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada N.B
Time: 1999-02-09 01:12:37
Comments: I don't believe that any of this is true. Why are you guys telling such lies? No matter how hard you try I will never believe you. So STOP dissing milk.

Name: Jane
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Florida
Time: 1999-02-08 12:44:24
Comments: Thank you for your info. I'm glad there is education out there for good health. I'm trying to learn because there is so much out there that is good for us. I want to know. I gave up dairy products, meat, sugar, salt, alcohol and caffine 10 months ago and I feel and look so much better. I lost 40 pounds too. Keep up the good work. Thank you.

Name: Emily
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: United Kingdom
Time: 1999-02-07 03:07:20
Comments: Since stopping eating and drinking dairy products over two years ago I have never had to take a headache pill. The only times when I have had headaches have been when I have drunk too much the night before, and even those aren't as bad as they used to be. I got my boyfriend to volunteer to try the NOTMILK challenge, he started today, and I'm hoping that in a few days time he'll see what a good idea it is to not drink milk.

Name: R.Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1999-02-05 20:50:28
Comments: Dear Robert, The dairy industry has it's junk scientists at it again. Increasingly over the years we've been trained to equate the word calcium with dairy. As a result they only have to mention "calcium" and we in Pavlovian response think "dairy." Now they are touting calcium as a possible colon cancer preventer. They have no proof, but state they "believe" this is so. Why is colon cancer on the rise if calcium prevents it? The average dairy consumer gets 2-3 times as much calcium as the body actually needs. How much more calcium/dairy are they going to suggest we take in to "prevent" colon cancer?

Name: Mike Leo
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: pa
Time: 1999-02-05 20:09:36
Comments: im at school and my friend is doing a scienece project on this topic and it is very useful, i agree with alot of the things on the webpage becuz if it does give use cancer then why are we saying its so good? docters need to inform us more and the public should know about this. i really do not agree with people that say this site is rude becuz its just somebodies way of saying things other wise known as their opinion. who ever the maker of this site is i rally think he did a great job spending time on making it and taking the time to informt he public about this subject. Sincerly, Mike Leo [from: Northwestern Lehigh Middle School] [New Tripoli, PA]

Name: Kristen Andrade
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MO
Time: 1999-02-05 10:35:12
Comments: I don't agree with your opinions. I think your very rude.

Ummm. Not nearly as rude as you who consciously chose to withhold the
reason you think something on the site is "rude". Not nearly as rude
as with holding your Email address so that you could be held accountable
for your words.

Or are we rude because we do not agree with your opinions?

Ah--ah. Missouri. Perhaps you or someone in your family WORKS for
Monsanto?


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Sam Glick
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1999-02-05 09:43:44
Comments: As the gotmilk.com site contains information that support purchasing milk, your site contains information that supports purchasing your book. What is the true aim of this site- to educate (not terrify) the public, or to sell books?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sam,

The invitation to purchase my book has been intentionally placed in a remote position of this site. I invite you to visit 1,000 internet sites which sell products and issue you this challenge: identify just one site giving equal or more information and less commercial position and visibility for the marketing of a product than this site.

The GOTMILK site provides the poison. The NOTMILK site provides the antidote. The choice is yours.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sam Glick
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1999-02-05 09:45:20
Comments: I agree with Mr. Cohen that all sources used must be listed, but which resources contain which facts? Are all your resources available for review? Perhaps the reference number should be in parentheses when posting a fact.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sam,

You make a very good point. That is just what I have done in my book. WEBSITES are not books. They would become more cluttered and less interesting by the inclusion of a detailed scientific reference after each statement.

I have previously invited you to read my columns, which do provide detailed scientific support for the dairy industy myths which I shatter with real science. The reference page allows doctors and scientists to easily access citations that are discussed on this page. I respond to their requests by sending them to that site. Detailed references with commentary can be found on this site in the weekly columns and GUESTBOOK comments. The entire story is available in my book which can be purchased or checked out from a library.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sam Glick
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1999-02-05 09:38:20
Comments: How can avoiding fat be considered a reason for avoiding dairy products when almost every dairy product is available in a fat-free "version"?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sam,

Every doctor and medical authority informs us that the consumption of animal fats is dangerous. In 1979 the average American consumed 150 pounds of whole milk. By 1994 that per capita intake of whole milk was cut to 75 pounds and Americans consumed more low-fat or no-fat milk.

USDA publishes a food consumption book (Edited by Putnam and Allhouse). In that book the authors noted that fat consumption from milk and dairy products did not change during that period because the average American eats more cheese and ice cream.

Next time you visit your local pizzeria try to order one of those low-fat slices. Same goes for the dish of ice cream in your restaurant or Blimpie hero for lunch.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sam Glick
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1999-02-05 09:39:45
Comments: It seems that many of the facts on this site are out of context. For example, it is pointed out that there are 750 million pus cells per liter of milk. How many total cells are in a liter of milk? What percentage is this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sam,

Out of context? Absolutely! The TRUTH on this site is out of context with the myths we have all been taught by an industry with an AGENDA. I welcome you or anybody to this site to ask questions and I will do my best to answer.

The food and drug administrtion recognizes that somatic cell count (SCC) (the number of pus cells in milk) is an indicator of it's "wholesomeness," or lack therof. Dairy farmers are rewarded by bonuses by their co-ops when their milk has a low SCC.

In Europe the SCC is 400 million per liter. In America, it's 750 million. Nobody has counted the amounts of cells in milk or in the average human body. We have guesstimates and standards by which we measure contents. I accept FDA'S standard and merely report it. However, it is curious that the American standard allows the American dairy farmer to produce a less "wholesome" product than his European cousin.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sam Glick
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1999-02-05 08:44:57
Comments: Although you list many references, most of the facts on your site do not state from which references they came. Also, many of the references you list could not be easily verified, such as personal e-mail messages, phone calls, and college courses you took in 1970. The aim of your site comes into question as well. In addition, some of your facts are posted in isolation, completely out of context.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sam,

Thank you for taking the time to visit my reference page and carefully analyze the quality of my references. Of three hundred and thirty references, most of which are from scientific journals, you were able to pick out the two EMAIL references and the two phone calls and two letters.

As an investigator, it is more than proper that I listed the sources for all of my comments and observations, it is absolutely MANDATORY. These are the references contained in my book which reads like a detective story. Without such references I would not have been able to tell the story, just as it happened.

In your previous letter you asked for "double blind studies." I provided what you asked for and you selectively ignored my invitation to review TRUTH and instead chose to weakly take a handful of citations and assign the word "MANY." Fact is, less than two percent of the references are phone calls, EMAILS or letters. Shall we address the other nighty-eight percent?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Bonnie99
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-02-05 07:23:16
Comments: Mr CohenAre you aware that Victoria Secrets had an outfit modeled with a cow on it? And what you know it had a BIG X on the front. This was last night, overloaded the web site, as I heard. So looks like your message is out in the land of Victoria - SMILE

Name: Sam Glick
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1999-02-05 06:43:13
Comments: I reviewed your site and, although it makes many strong claims, there is no scientific evidence provided. Where are the double-blind studies supporting your claims? The references to FDA publications from which you obtained your facts? The papers in which your "experts" made their quotes? What give information credibility are its references. Your site's references are few and far between, which gives it very little credibility.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Sam,

I write a weekly column for the ANTIDAIRY Coalition. Should you review those columns you will find hundreds of scientific references from peer-reviewed medical journals.

I recently included the landmark FDA paper (SCIENCE-8/24/90) in its entirety with a thorough analyses of the FDA fraud. Please review that study, take two aspirin (with water, NOTMILK), and call me in the morning.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Bonnie99
Website:
Referred by: SimpleNet
From: New England
Time: 1999-02-05 06:28:32
Comments: Mr Cohen Never will I doubt again that an AM station would reach out and touch someone. Read Dr Alves opinion, and was surprised that he listened to an AM station. So if one person is reached, then all is well in the land of radio. Whatever what channel. I leave Bonnie99

Name: Linda Way
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tennessee
Time: 1999-02-05 06:18:25
Comments: I am a mother of 3 very sick children thanks to milk. No one ever told me milk was the problem, I figured it out on my own and began researching on my own. I am so proud that you have this site to warn people. I almost want to cry when I see a pregnant woman, because I know she is drinking milk like I did for the health of her unborn child. We have all been sold a lie, and one day all of this will come to light. God bless you for getting the word out. And for those of you that don't believe it, just eliminate all milk from your diet and notice the changes. I don't know the affect it has on all people, but I know without a doubt there is a big majority of the population that are having some serious problems because of it. Eliminate it and watch some of your even common ailments disappear. But for some people the damage has been done and is irreversible. God bless you again.

Name: Dr Gary J. Alves
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: New Bedford, MA
Time: 1999-02-05 03:37:32
Comments: As a chiropractor I know your frustration in fighting the etablished powers that be. I have been telling my patients about the ills of dairy products my 18 yrs in practice. The typical responce I get from people is that the goverment would not allow it to be sold if it was not safe! What do you think about goat milk? PS: I heard about you this morning while listening to WBSM. keep up the good work. Gary

Name: you people (censored)
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-02-05 02:34:28
Comments: you stupid people how in the world are you trying to turn people away from a good thing milk is not bad your minds are just corrupted. and the saying that comon sense is not so comon you people just proved that overwelmingly

OH MY GOSH, Mr. Cohen, this overwhelming "scientific"
statement has to impress you!


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Marty H.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: OKC, Oklahoma
Time: 1999-02-04 20:04:17
Comments: I tried to keep an open mind while reading your website, but I found most of your information unbelievable. With all the additives that were designed in the 60's & 70's, that we are just now finding out are causeing major health problems in adults (ie. ASPARTAME, SACCARIN, etc...) milk has been around for centuries and has not caused such wide spread panic in the medical field as these products have over the last 3 decades. Like all products, to much is bad! A glass of wine with your meal is good for your heart... A bottle of wine for breakfast, lunch, and dinner is begging for cancer and death. Please, don't use scare tactics to prove a point, most of the time it turns poeple away. You would have gotten alot more people to cut down on their consumption of milk by stating fact of excessive use of milk and dairy products is bad, than to try and scare them into quitting "cold turkey."

Cows have been around for centuries.

Cows forced to give 40-55 quarts of milk each day (from mother-natures
1-4 quarts a day design) is NOT normal. Cows being fed other critters
is not normal (blood meal). Cows being milked all year long was not the
norm. Calves being fed soy milk because their mama's milk was worth to
much... was not the norm.

Pasteurization was not around until this century, which, between mass
transportation and refrigeration are the three main reasons why milk
remains "saleable" until it gets to most stores. Pasteurization... not
ONCE, but several times.

And now the best part... Marty...

The FDA allows each liter of the substance you think is normal for humans,
as well as healthy and safe... to have:

Up to 750 MILLION pus cells
Up to 20,000,000 live bacteria (no wonder it gets rotten so fast!)

... before it is dumped. (care to find out WHERE it is dumped?)

Not ancient, not natural, not healthy, not safe, and no longer on MY menu!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New Jersey
Time: 1999-02-04 18:26:55
Comments: Okay it is better if I keep my words to a minium. TO all the people out there PLEASE drink milk. Butter and cheese are bad for you. It is not something we should eat alot of. They have fat in them they provide nutrition that bacon does not. Bacon is pure saturated fat. Cutting milk and other dairy out of your diet will harm you tremedously. Cutting any food group is terrrible for your health. Drink low fat milk and don't over do any dairy product that is as bad as cutting it out. I think you all get my point.

Gee... butter and cheese are baddo... but MILK, the source, is OK???

Er... by the way, Jennifer, do you have any idea WHO "invented" those food groups?

Do you have any idea what they originally "suggested" and what it has become?

Guess you were blinded by your glass of milk and missed those important pages!

Just out of curiousity... is there something in milk that makes you folks forget
your last names, Email addresses, and simple accountability for your words and actions?


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Matthew
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 1999-02-04 08:48:34
Comments: Milk is the best and it is also from a cow. And cow are the best. I live on a small 1150 head dairy farm, in southern Australia which I have owned now for 37 years and before that my Parents owned it for 50 years. They have been drinking milk for 98 years now and I has hurt them.

Gee... Mr. Cohen, you never told me that milk for all those
5000+ species of mammals all came from COWS!

"They have been drinking milk for 98 years now and I has hurt them"

Ummm. Slip of the "tougue", eh?


Dave Rietz, WEBmaster

Name: Steve Gold
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: florida
Time: 1999-02-04 07:58:46
Comments: Is anyone else sick of these Ovaltine commercials that I constantly hear on the radio as I am?

Name: Robert Mann
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Los Angeles, CA
Time: 1999-02-03 10:45:01
Comments: I had never heard any of the ideas that you are proclaiming here. I do not doubt them, but it is hard to imagine a life without milk. I have a 3 year old who practicly lives on the stuff. I will definatly take a hard look at our milk and dairy consumption from now on. My wife, son, and I are lacto ovo vegitarians and dairy is the cornerstone of our diets. It will definatly take some work to change.

Name: Lucinda Zimmerman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: St. Louis
Time: 1999-02-01 22:36:55
Comments: Hi Robert! I love your website. I just read an article on CNN's webiste that I think you'll want to see. It's about genetically engineered milk supposedly being easier to digest.

Thanks for getting the word out on milk. I used to love the stuff, but haven't had any for over a year now & I feel so much better. Regards, Lucinda

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lucinda,

In that yet-to-be produced product, a rat gene was used inside of mice. Can you imagine drinking mouse or rat milk? How about dog milk? Yeech. I find the thought of cows's milk to be equally distasteful.

This GENETICALLY ENGINEERED milk has not yet been produced for human consumption. This article envisions a milk without LACTOSE. In theory, scientists will one day be able to genetically engineer milk and remove CASEIN too. Perhaps they can also remove the 59 different hormones and the pus. After they accomplish that and remove the 100 proteins that cause allergic reactions... Just filter out the blood and feces and I'll drink that product.

We'll call it water!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Scots Lass
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-01-31 05:25:37
Comments: ha ha ha ha ha ... oh you're not joking? Hmmmm my friend Jim from Oregon sent me.. I thought this was a joke? *LOL*.. oh well.. gave me a good laugh anyway!!! but then.. we've got loads of mad cows here anyway... pass me another pint there.. I'm half way insane anyway!

Name: Joelle
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Calgary
Time: 1999-01-31 04:17:55
Comments: Anything is large quanties is bad. Milk, OJ and even WATER! Just go easy on them and do the moderation thing. I personally hate milk but drink it anyways because long lived and health people are known to be milk consumers

Name: Kris
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Utah
Time: 1999-01-30 22:04:21
Comments: I happen to know several groups that are benefitting from a whey protein derived from a pristine herd of cows in New Zealand. By pristine, I mean that these herds have never been exposed to mad cow disease and the like. The whey protein is helping people with Cancer and HIV/AIDS stop the Cachexia, or "wasting" process, the reason several of them die of the disease(s). They are able to keep weight on, not fat, but muscle mass from the protein they take in. This protein is the first non-manmade,non-manufactured, natura,l non-drug being tested by the ACTG, supported by the National Institutes of Health and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious diseases. I don't think you can make generalizations and claims about all dairy products when it is obvious that there are people that are benefitting from some dairy products. P.S. I have been drinking milk since I was a little girl - I'm 27 and I'm healthy as I can be. I never get sick either.

Name: sarah
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-01-30 06:34:19
Comments: i think that you should be spending your time and energy on more important matters than milk. hey, how about under aged drinking or smoking? try the environment. milk is not a very important issue facing the world today. get a life.

Name: Sara H. and Katherine M.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada N.B.
Time: 1999-01-30 06:14:31
Comments: I THINK THAT ALL YOU PEOPLE R FULL OF (censored). YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.THOSE OF U THAT GOT SICK MOST LIKELY GOT SICK BECAUSE YOUR BODY WASN'T USED TO IT. GOD PUT MILK ON THIS EARTH FOR A REASON AND THATS FOR HUMANS TO DRINK. YOUR MOTHERS MILK HAS CALCIUM IN IT FOR YOUR BONES TO STAY HEALTHY SO YOU DON'T GET OSTEOPOROSIS.FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT THINK YOU (censored) A COW WHEN YOU MILK IT ITS NOT TRUE. IF YOU DON'T MILK A COW THEY WILL GET VERY SICK,SORE AND DIE!!! MILK HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE DAY 1.NO ONE HAS EVER HAD PROBLEMS WITH IT UNLESS YOU ARE LACTOSE AND TOLERANT. I AM HEALTHIER THAN MOST TEENAGERS MY AGE BECAUSE I DRINK MORE MILK THAN THEY DO AND I GET IT FRESH FROM THE COW.SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK THAT MILK IS GOOD FOR YOU STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN AND THE REST OF YOU SHUT UP AND (censored)DIE!!!!!!!

Name: Deb
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Syracuse, NY
Time: 1999-01-30 02:52:47
Comments: Milk is one of natures purest forms of nourishment and nutrition. I don' t doubt that there are side effects from consuming animal products after those animals have been injected with growth hormones, etc. However, I have a huge problem with your claims of milk not being nutritious nor a good form of calcium. Yes, there is also fat in milk. So, buy skim if you're worried. When I look at the health of my parents' generation (mine are 60 and 65) I see people who are much more healthy than my generation (at 29) due to the fact that they didn't grow up on foods filled with preservatives, canned vegetables, bread from a plant hundreds of miles away, Oreos, etc... My parents didn't sit in front of a TV 4 hours a day or play video games (or surf the 'net) for entertainment. They were active, athletic, abstained from smoking, drinking, etc... Fun meant riding your bike, taking a walk, even a Friday night DANCE! No heart disease, no cancer, nothing. Just two healthy individuals who raised their children (5 of them) the same way. I know I have reactions to foods that are filled with preservatives and try my best to stay away from them. So, I will continue to eat vegetables from my garden (frozen for winter), fruit from local farmers, meat (cooked by me), homemade bread and drink as much MILK as possible. (No smoking or drinking either) I will also continue to exercise daily, remain active always and view my TV as a piece of furniture, rather than a source of entertainment. MILK DOES YOUR BODY SOOOOO GOOD!!!!! Happy Drinking.

Name: Robert Root
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Spokane WA
Time: 1999-01-30 00:38:33
Comments: Milk had made me a tad nauseous since childhood ,so I quit drinking it . After many years, Im 49 now so lets guess at 39 + or- a few I had been convinced through my readings that asphidosphlis was a worthwhile venture. So I picked up a half gallon at the store . I knew not to start back quickly so ever so slow I sipped a cup here and there . Well Im glad to be here to tell you in 2 days I became so sick I couldn't move I also have arthritis and it blew sky high. So sick and in a flare, I purged my system, and low and behold,I am shaky but on the way back to health . MILK never more... Robert Root

Name: R.Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1999-01-29 07:52:51
Comments: Guest record 788 says "Anyone can pay a "doctor" or a "scientist" enough to make them say whatever one wants....". No truer words have been written. Two classic examples of how scientific integrity was purchased in the milk industry are "Bioactivity of Milk From bST Treated Cows" P. Groenewegan et al JOURNAL OF NUTRITION 120,1990 pp. 514-519, and "Bovine Growth Hormone:Human Food Safety Evaluation" Juskevich and Guyer, SCIENCE, vol 249, Aug 24,1990 pp.875-884. That's the wonderful relationship between MONSANTO and dairy scientists at work. "Proof" that rBST/rBGH is safe. The former written by an undergrad at Guelph, the latter dictated by FDA employee Margaret Miller, formerly employed by MONSANTO. An example of Monsanto's NutraSweet company "proving" ASPARTAME safe can be found at:

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/tt/1998/sep16/aspartame.html

A brilliant young man who has determined Spock is fictional and who already knows how DAIRY has been "proven" safe should have no trouble determining scientific methodology and fitting neatly into Monsanto's brave new world.


Name: Siddharth
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Midwest
Time: 1999-01-28 23:28:13
Comments: Howdy folks! I must say I strongly disagree with your conspiracy theory, but as you say, there does exist the possibilty that I am just another one of the mindless drones drinking almost half a gallon of skim milk a day and growing like a weed. I fell out of my chair when I read the following, "...the greatest pediatrician of our time, Dr. Spock..." Anyone can pay a "doctor" or a "scientist" enough to make them say what ever one wants. If Dr. Spock is the GREATEST PEDIATRICIAN OF OUR TIME, I was pleasntly amused when I asked two groups of pediatricians, one at a large Big Ten teaching University and the other, a group of private practicioners, who the greatest pediatrician of our time was. Not only did none of them mention him, none of them had heard of him.

Dear Siddharth,

I have a confession to make, Siddharth. I made up the name Spock, imagining that nobody would check up on me. You are just too clever and people will be talking about you for some time as a result of your detective work, I am certain. I actually borrowed the name SPOCK from the pointy-eared Vulcan science officer of the starship Enterprise.

It took a brilliant fellow like you from the University of Wisconsin (I checked your EMAIL address) to expose me. That should be a great honor for the professors and students of your esteemed college, not to mention the pediatricians associated with your "Big-Ten teaching University."

I guess we'll have to score one for the "cheeseheads" and milk drinkers. I hope that being exposed for the fraud that I am does not detract from my ANTIDAIRY message. You're right, Siddarth. Had there been a real Dr. Spock I most certainly would have tried to pay him money so that he would do my bidding.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Debbie
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: New York City
Time: 1999-01-28 20:57:20
Comments: I attended your lecture at the NY Armory in late November 1998. I stopped all dariy products, including eggs, that day. I was a vegetarian then, I'm a vegan now. I am 31 years old and have never felt as healthy as I do now that I have stopped dairy. The belly I always had (right below my navel) has shed its fat and I have the knock out figure I always wanted but could never obtain. I will definitely be wearing that bikini I've longed to wear but never could. I've lost 14 pounds since stopping dairy. I am a true advocate for your cause. So many people have noticed the change in my body and attitude that they ask what I've been doing. I tell them that if they cut dairy out of their diets and make it a way of life they will feel and look great. Forget Weight Watchers, Jenny Criag and all the other money making weight loss programs. Cut out dairy and, all animal products from your diet. It is healthier, it is humane, it is the right thing to do. Thank you so much, my life will never be the same!

Name: June Cleeland
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1999-01-27 09:50:25
Comments: Got putrid, offensive, rancid, offputting, romance and passion-killing B.O.? Then this tried and true cure is for you....(hmmm....I was a poet and didn't know it)....simply remove all dairy from your diet. ..VOILA!.. You'll be smelling as sweet as a ....pansy (?)...before you know it!...Regards, Professor June Cleeland.

Name: Brian Manning
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-01-27 02:00:25
Comments: You're right, Robert, IGF-1 does cause cells to grow.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brian,

Now that wasn't hard, was it. :>)

STEP #2

We've got to get you and the other dairy scientists at Cornell to admit to the enormous BST fraud you hoisted upon America. Chief MONSANTO-lackey was your mentor, Dale Bauman who wrote in the December 1993 issue of the International Dairy Federation Bulletin:

"Pasteurization eliminated 85-90 percent of the immunoreactive BST in milk."

We now know that pasteurization for 30 minutes (15 seconds is the normal pasteurization time) only destroyed nineteen percent of BST. CORNELL UNIVERSITY'S LIE (thanks to Dr. Bauman) led to BST approval. Care to tackle that subject next?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: olen holm
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: new york city
Time: 1999-01-27 01:03:19
Comments: Annie Leibowitz is the photographer who shoots every picture for the Milk Moustache campaign. I used to work for her agent, indirectly facilitating this tragic dissemination of sheer ignorance. Ouch. Ignorance is bliss. I now am fully aware of the dairy industry's malevolent pursuit of the dollar at the cost of global health. I plan to share this information with as many people as possible and have even considered writing a personal letter to Ms. Leibowitz and my former employers. The letter would most likely be seen as a threat to their guilty incomes and easily dismissed by people I once called colleague. What a shame that America is buying into the illusions propagated by the public relations agendas of celebrities and the commercially constructed myth that "milk does a body good." Yuck.

Name: Brian Manning
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Cornell University
Time: 1999-01-26 20:24:52
Comments:
On the issue of free IGF-1 in the body - new research indicates that IGF-1 has protective and repairitive properties for nervous tissue. For those that don't have the time to search all over for the research, a good review can be found in IGFs in the nervous system by EE Muller.
For those that do have the time to search for the original papers, you'll find most of the articles in a medical library.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brian,

Thank you for confirming what I have been saying all along:

IGF-I is a powerful growth hormone. It works! It does not discriminate!! IGF-I makes all cells grow. When it finds an existing cancer that is not growing...IGF-I exerts its growth influence by providing a wake-up call.

Your research should provide a wake-up call to the many scientists who weakly debate that IGF-I is not a key factor in the growing MILK CONTROVERSY.

IGF-I is an identical perfect match between humans and cows. Like a key fitting into a lock, IGF-I in milk, cheese and ice cream might be the key factor in most human cancers.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: SoHo21
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-01-26 18:21:32
Comments: First off,I am 13 years old.Please allow me to counter your comments about milk. You claim there is a conspiracy.Hmmm,let me see.The government has decided to make milk their poster drink.They will absolutely NOT let anything get in their way of promoting this drink.They allow everyone representing milk to lie and say it is good for you.EVERY single doctor in the U.S. decided to lie and say milk is good for you. Now,why does this sound a bit far-fetched?Wouldn't they rather want foods/drinks that are supposedly better than milk/dairy products to get more good publicty?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear SoHo21,

First off, let me congratulate you for caring enough to write about something having importance to you!

Second, allow me to re-state my position about conspiracies. There is an enormous CONSPIRACY OF IGNORANCE. There are a lot of milk issues that many doctors have not carefully examined.

Before he died, the greatest pediatrician of our time, Dr. Spock said "Cow's milk in the past has always been oversold as the perfect food, but we are now seeing that it isn't the perfect food at all and the government really shouldn't be behind any efforts to promote it as such."

Please read a "SECOND OPINION" from one of America's greatest physicians, Julian Whitaker, MD. Dr. Whitaker is the editor of the largest-read health newsletter in the world!

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/100498.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Paulo Wengorski
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Time: 1999-01-26 17:17:18
Comments: It was a great satisfaction to read your page and I must say I was convinced about three months ago that milk could be only good for cows, but to me it was just an interesting idea, and I decided to check it. I experienced such changes for better in my health that presently I am making my private campaign against milk and dairy products.

Name: Gordon B.Stull, V.M.D.
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Shamong, NJ
Time: 1999-01-26 13:56:15
Comments: Congratulations Mr. Cohen, that which you have been saying seems finally to be coming to light. Bravo for Canada. Boo for the US. Please see:

http://www.sightings.com/health/gotmilk.htm


Name: Elizabeth Sturm
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Lafayette, Louisiana...until the next transfer
Time: 1999-01-26 03:40:13
Comments: This is a wonderful site. It shows that cow's milk is for cows, not for humans. I wish that everybody would read this information, and see that milk is the root of many ailments.

Name: Jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Alaska
Time: 1999-01-26 00:59:44
Comments: I would like to respond to the statement made by Melissa, don't be convinced by your little 'test' many things can be taken into account as to why you got sick, the pizza may well have been under cooked the ingredients may have been bad, if you feel that you believe Mr. Cohen's teachings because of this I fear that you may be mislead, try running another one of your tests, one with more controlled variables. And to others out ther do your own research as Melissa has, but control what you can don't leave anything to chance, don't take anybody's word unless they can prove it, And for the lady who was on Jenny Craig, Yogurt has very much sugar in it that would probably account for the high blood sugar, just remember, all of you, anything taken in access can (and more than likely will) prove harmfull.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeremiah?

The pizza may have been undercooked? Of course! Why didn't I think of that? Happens all the time! If you carefully read Melissa's letter you would have learned that she first abstained from all dairy products just to test my theory. When she observed pizza's effects in the most unpleasant way, she then had her friend try the experiment. Same thing happened to her buddy. Now...either the local DOMINO'S chef didn't graduate with a degree and keeps undercooking the pizza...or...maybe the human body has difficulty digesting mozzerella.

I repeat my test for all people. NO DAIRY for exactly five days. On day six, have two-three slices of pizza...wait 12 hours and observe the change in your bowel movements, phlegm and overall mood.

Bon apetit, Jeremiah!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Melissa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: South Florida
Time: 1999-01-25 21:46:17
Comments: A friend of mine started giving powdered cow colostrum to her son to improve his immunity response and asthma. Now she wants me to try it on my son who has a number of food allergies (including milk). One of the benefits it touts is the fact that is contains growth hormone (although NATUALLY occuring, they stress). This does not seem like a good idea to me, but the only info I can find on cow colostrum is from companies who are selling it! What do you know about this?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Melissa,

The Dairy industy has done a magnificent job in separating people from their own basic inner wisdom and instincts. Allow me to answer your question by asking you another. Would you eat dog colostrum or pig colostrum or even human colostrum? Each product contains concentrated amounts of hormones, best reserved for the young of that species. Why would dog colostrum sound disgusting and cow colustrum inviting?

Let me present you with a TRUTH. Breast cancer begins with one cell. By the time it grows into one million cells, the smallest lump in a woman's breast, that cancer has been growing for 8-10 years.

Here is another TRUTH. The key factor in the growth of breast cancer (and all human cancers) is a hormone that we naturally produce called insulin-like growth factor-I or IGF-I. This hormone is IDENTICAL between cows and humans. Why take concentrated amounts of this powerful growth hormone? I guarantee that it does what it is advertised to do: Make every cell in your body grow. When it finds an existing cancer, normally controlled... Tick, tock, tick, tock...eight to ten years...

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Melissa
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NJ
Time: 1999-01-25 15:33:19
Comments: Hi. I'm writing in response to what you wrote about Sarah Michelle Gellar's list of "NO NO" foods. I read Teen and in a fairly recent issue (after her interview) she wrote a letter to them telling them they had made a mistake. She said she does eat dairy, that it was part of a healthy diet, and she hopes Teen passes that along to readers. But I think she should be on the hall of shame anyway for encouraging vulnerable young girls to drink milk. (p.s. keep up the good work :))

Dear Melissa,

I do not blame BUFFY-THE VAMPIRE SLAYER for admitting that she made a mistake...OOPS! The marketing people from the dairy industry bit Buffy in the neck and drew blood, then threatened to hammer a wooden stake through her agent's heart. Just imagine what went on behind the scenes after the following column appeared:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/102598.html

As a result of my column, Buffy and her agent went "BATTY" after the dairy industry screamed for "blood!"

Regards,

THe NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sita Murali
Website: Sita's Homepage
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: India
Time: 1999-01-25 08:53:08
Comments: I love your site. It is wonderful. I've been a vegan for 16 months and I finally have the info I need to convince my vegetarian friends who still drink milk.

Name: Candice
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pa
Time: 1999-01-25 04:52:21
Comments: Hello. I really like this site. It is very well done and informative, I only wish there were more like it. I don't eat dairy products because I'm a vegan, but I had a vague idea about what milk could do to a person's health. But I had no idea till I came to this site that it was this bad. I'm very happy this site exists and I hope you continue to tell the people the truth about the dairy industry.

Name: Loretta Inman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Jacksonville, Fl`
Time: 1999-01-24 18:51:06
Comments: Last year I joined Jennie Craig (a weight loss place) to lose some weight. The have this ABC diet which they put me on and it included 4 portions in the milk group. Prior to that I rarely drank milk but on this new program I was drinking 4-5 glasses a day as well as eating yogurt. I started losing weight rapidly and feeling real tired. My son, who is a nurse checked my blood sugar and it was off the scale and above 550. He said, "What are you doing to cause this increase in blood sugar rise?" I said I had started dieting and the only food I had changed was drinking milk. Well to make a long story short, neither my diet councelor nor my doctor knew of any connection between milk and high blood sugar so I did my own research and found out that there was a link but when I tried to tell both of them of what I had found they laughed and said "Where did you find that information from?" I told them from reading nutrition books and they said "Oh, they aren't reliable sources." So I quit Jennie Craig and stopped drinking milk and my blood sugar has gone way down. Loretta

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Loretta,

Congratulations for having the wisdom to see things that your doctors could not! Proteins in milk cause havoc with the pancreas and there is a reason that the feedback mechanisms providing the hunger response cease to function properly (insulin levels, glucose and glucagon levels, ventromedial nucleus of the hypothalamus and pancreas).

Print the following column which provides the scientific link between bovine proteins and diabetes. When you give this column to your physician ask if he/she took a class in nutrition in medical school. Most physicians receive little or no such formal instruction.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-01-24 06:25:23
Comments: Robert, Let me see if I follow this. In 1992 the Clinton Administration asked the GAO to check on the FDA's approval of Posilac or rBST because there were some concerns as to the methods the FDA used to test this drug? The GAO said everything was fine and went on their merry way after pointing out that BST is a protein hormone that is digested after it reaches your stomach just like any other protein you find in food. They also determined that IGF-1 is just as orally inactive as BST or insulin itself and that the amount of IGF-1 you would get in milk doesn't even come close to the amount you get every day from your own saliva? And then to top it off the GAO says that the FDA's report and approval of BST is affirmed by The World Health Organization,The Food and Agricultural Organization of the UN and several other promient groups? Well it easy to see what's going on here! Remember,The GAO is also the group who looked into the Warren Commission's report on the assassination of John Kennedy and concluded that there was NO CONSPIRACY.Robert,now you and I both know better than that don't we? So here we have the GAO,FDA,WHO and all of the rest of them on one side and on the other side is Robert Cohen the NOTMILKMAN! So whe are you gonna believe? As Always, Jim

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

You've got a lot of catching up to do. GAO recomended that rbST NOT be approved. Their recommendation was ignored. Many congressmen and congresswomen sponsored a BILL that was intended to label genetically engineered milk and dairy products. The public had a right to know, right? WRONG! Monsanto got their attorney hired by FDA to write the laws and then got their scientists hired by FDA to review their own research. That BILL was never voted upon. The twelve members of the committee "stalled the BILL" until the 1994 session of congress expired. The BILL "died." Four of the members of that committee took bribes from Monsanto...They call it PAC money, I call it bribes. Think they'll sue me? NOT!

The WHO report (issued in Switzerland in 1992) was written by an ex-FDA commissioner, a man who subsequently went to work for Monsanto, maker of the hormone in question.

Your facts are a bit mixed up...it was not the Clinton Administration that requested the GAO investigation. That request was made by three congressmen, Obey, Brown and Sanders. The request was made after a confidential letter was written by FDA employees complaining of FRAUD.

One thing the FDA letter writers were concerned about was how cows were getting ulcers from this new hormone and the bacteria, pus and blood in milk increased. Monsanto's employee-turned-FDA reviewer (Margaret Miller) arbitrarily increased the amounts of antibiotics farmers could put into milk by 100 times! GAO did NOT investigate this, Jim. You call this safety? I call it more than curious!

As to your comment that GAO analyzed and commented about the protein hormone issue...GAO investigators have no such scientific background and officially commented that they did not have this expertise. I personally confirmed this with the senior investigators on this case, Boris Kachura and Valerie Dumas.

We have since learned (from Canadian scientists) that the FDA reviewers were incorrect. These powerful hormones now in America's milk and cheese had adverse effects on laboratory animals and present a health hazard to all Americans.

It's all in my book, Jim. All the bloody details...I call it a CONSPIRACY of IGNORANCE.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-01-23 20:30:07
Comments: Robert,

There is a lot of interesting reading to be found

http://www.biotech.wisc.edu/

concering rBST/(Bovine Growth Hormone)While a lot of the information at this site is from the FDA there is also a lot of supporting data that tends to indicate that you just pick and choose what suits you:-) Regards, Jim

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

Thank you for posting CHAPTER II of the University of Wisconsin report on bST. I suggest that YOU and my readers scroll up to Chapter I and begin with the White House report. Under 'SAFETY' please note that the Executive Branch report bases their conclusion on a lie: that bST milk is "indistinguishable" from non-bST milk.

Every single agency that is cited in Chapter II agrees with my position. BST-treated milk is DIFFERENT. In fact, levels of IGF-I ALWAYS INCREASE after cows are treated with rbST.

The approval process for rbST became the greatest controversy in FDA history. That process constitutes the most enormous scientific fraud in American history. I have written a book about milk, and chapter three of that book details the scientific fraud and FDA's attempt to cover it up. I have published the entire chapter on my website:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/chapt3.html

There are hundreds of lies and deceits in your referenced report. Those lies are revealed in the first 171 pages of my 317 page book. Details are also included on this website.

Issue #224 of the January 1999 issue of MILKWEED, a dairy industry newsletter supports my position on BST. (The MILKWEED-P.O. Box 10, Brooklyn, WI 53521).

Those agencies that once described rbST-treated milk and untreated milk as indistinguishable now use the phrase:

"V I R T U A L L Y----I D E N T I C A L"

Imagine a group of history's great minds getting together and examining that phrase. People like Einstein and Tolstoy and Aristotle and Goethe...By this oxymoron they would have judged us all to be morons! Those who tricked us, and those who believe without examining facts.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Gordon Stull, V.M.D.
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Shamong, NJ
Time: 1999-01-22 19:09:38
Comments: Although it is not exactly related to the milk issue, Monsanto is in the news again today--this time in India- where they have been introducing genetically engineered disease-resistant cotton much to the dismay of local farmers who are through acts of civil disobedience burning the fields containing Monsanto's brainchild. Following is a reference to the story as covered by Pacifica Radio (Pacifica Network News) in a piece yesterday:

http://www.webactive.com/webactive/pacifica/pnn.html

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dr. Stull,

Your link is an audio link and some who read your letter might have to DOWNLOAD a plug-in to hear the real audio. For those who wish to read more about genetic engineering:

http://www.netlink.de/gen/home.html

Actually, your story is VERY much related to MILK. The first genetically engineered product for our food supply was MONSANTO'S recombinant bovine growth hormone (rbGH/rbST), now found in our milk and cheese. BAD NEWS! Monsanto made a mistake by creating a "FREAK AMINO ACID" (in the #144 position of BST - a protein chain made up of 191 amino acids).

"Nature finds a way." Those prophetic words were spoken by Jeff Goldblum in "Jurassic Park," the dinosaur movie in which mans best laid plans went horribly astray. Genetic engineering makes headline news all over the world but in America the press remains silent. New species are being created and their pollens spread to other crops, influencing them in unpredictable ways.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lisa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tennessee
Time: 1999-01-22 06:42:34
Comments: Hello. I first became aware of this problem with milk after reading Marilu Henner's book. Your book was listed in the bibliography, so that is how I found this site. I am looking for suggestions from you on how to become "dairy free". It seems like it is in everything. Is it ok to just stop the main dairy products like milk, sour cream, cottage cheese, etc. or should you avoid it in everything? I really want to do this, but it is difficult to know where to start. If you do suggest avoiding it in everything, what do we look for on the food labels? I see you mentioning "casein" quite often. Are there other words besides "milk" and "casein" that we should be looking for? All this is really grossing me out. I would like to become a vegetarian, but don't know how to go about all of this. If anyone else has suggestions for making such a drastic lifestyle change after 34 years, please let me know. Thank you, Mr. Cohen, for everything you are doing to help others.

Name: Melissa
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kentucky
Time: 1999-01-22 02:27:08
Comments: Hi. I gave myself a little "test" of sorts. I went dairy free for one week, and then afterwards, I ate pizza for dinner. For the next two days, I had a terrible headache. A friend of mine thought I was crazy, so I had her do the same thing. She was sick as well, doing the same test! You made a believer out of me.....

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Melissa,

Help me to teach all American's this truth about CASEIN'S affect on the human body.

Send this link to your friends:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/070598.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mike & Tara
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York/Minnesota
Time: 1999-01-21 18:11:26
Comments: The funniest thing just happened today. I checked my email, and after sending the guys at the dairy milk web page some email asking why they doint talk about any of the chemicals found in milk like lactose, caisen, and bovine, and why they don't label the cartons about the thing cows get to produce more milk his only response was, and I quote:"Because we want to sell milk, wouldn't that be counter-productive?" HAHA caught em... 10 years, there's going to be a big lawsuit against the USDA similar to the tobacco thing happening now

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mike and Tara,

I disagree with you. Those lawsuits should be starting any moment now. Recently the dairy industry and VIACOM participated in painting chocolate milk moustaches on RUGRATS. Every pediatrician in America knows that children under the age of one year should not drink cow's milk or they become candidates for DIABETES. Read all about it:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/110198.html

Any infant developing diabetes will become a future VIACOM stockholder after jury trials assess liability for claims. Furthermore, these trusting kids and their parents were misled by by thedairy industry and should receive compensation from the National Fluid Milk Processors!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: New York
Time: 1999-01-20 21:30:04
Comments: Why don't cow milk companies label their products if they inject their cows to produce more milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mike,

MONSANTO created a genetically engineered hormone that is now injected into cows to yield more milk. That hormone caused cancer in laboratory animals but FDA still approved it. Consumers have a right to know whether they buy genetically engineered foods. MONSANTO realized that nobody would buy their controversial milk if it was so identified. This company called in favors and got their attorney hired by the Food and Drug Administration where he wrote the regularions deciding that consumers did NOT have a right to know. (His name was Michael Taylor, ESQ.)

Congress also had an opportunity to pass a law informing Americans what was in their milk. I worked hard and got my congresswoman, Marge Roukema to co-sponsor that BILL. A congressional committee (Dairy, Livestock & Poultry) labored hard to stall that BILL until the 1994 session of congress expired. The BILL was never voted upon and "died." I then investigated the committee and found that the 12 men took a combined total of $711,000 in PAC money from private groups with agriculture interests. Four of those CROOKS took money (bribes) directly from MONSANTO. The congressmen who took the BRIBES were Cal Dooley and Richard Pombo from California, Harold Volkmer from Missouri and Steve Gunderson from the "cheesehead state," Wisconsin. Wonder if these crooks will sue me for revealing that they took bribes? These cretins should be in jail. Bottom line: Americans were betrayed for money and today there is no information on the milk container.

Read more about MONSANTO'S relationship with government:

htp://www.antidairycoalition.com/010399.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: New York
Time: 1999-01-20 20:46:24
Comments: Checking out the WHYMILK website, I noticed a very peculiar thing. They only mention the vitamins and minerals found in milk. There is no mention of anything like lactose, BGH, casein. I'm going to skip a pizza party because I could not imagine putting pizza cheese into my body. thanks NMM

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mike,

Great idea skipping that pizza party! Read what happened to one woman fourteen hours after eating her pizza. Her stomach revealed a brick-sized lump of undigested food! Every organ was congested with mucus. Pizza's effects (mozzarella) sometimes take up to fifteen hours to manifest themselves. By that time pizza eaters rarely make the connection between mucus and lousy bowel movements. Anyway...here is the autopsy:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/111598.html

There are just two ingredients on a typical carton of milk: Milk...and Vitamin D3 added. In first grade most kids learn that vitamin D is the "SUNSHINE VITAMIN." By the time kids become adults that lesson is forgotten.

If the WHYMILK website dared to reveal the truth about milk who in his/her right mind would drink it? Every sip of milk contains virus, pus, bacteria, powerful growth hormones, proteins that cause allergies, antibiotics, pesticides, fat and cholesterol. There really is only one good reason to drink milk:

If you drink cow's milk you'll have a milk moustache and be beautiful like Spike Lee and Donna Shalala!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1999-01-20 19:33:40
Comments: Robert, I think we could substitute "Robert Cohen" for "Samuel Epstein" and the message would be the same? It's scary how much you two guys sound alike.You aren't related by any chance are you? He has testified before Congress that 70 to 90 percent of cancer cases result from man-made products. Epstein tells the audience, "Escalating increasing [sic] cancer rates over recent decades is a result of exposure to avoidable carcinogens in air, water, and food and the workplace." Epstein regularly makes such preposterous statements, which I know because the media just as regularly repeat them. He is the fair-haired boy of the apocalyptic environmental movement and of the media. A search on the Nexis database of magazines, newspapers, and some TV news broadcasts pulled up 318 references to both Epstein and cancer. Let's hope reporters ignore this quack altogether and devote precious news print to real problems. This fair-haired boy has long since cried "wolf" too often to be taken seriously. Regards, Jim

Dear Jim,

No relation! BTW, Sam Epstein was a hero on the rbST issues. Sam and I disagree on many points. It is his belief that rbST-treated milk containing increased amounts of IGF-I is dangerous. It is my position that "WHOLESOME" cow's milk contains IGF-I and should not be consumed by humans.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Aaron
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-01-20 12:48:47
Comments: Just wondering what Raynaud's syndrome is?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Aaron,

Raynaud's syndrome is a problem in which the hands (and occasionally feet) become painfully sensitive to the cold because of decreased circulation. Sometimes there are spasms or numbness but there is usually great pain. I have seen cases in which hands actually turn blue and then white because of decreased amounts of blood being circulated.

Renauds is more common to smokers and caffeine users. Anything that constricts blood flow and causes heart disease can be considered a contributory factor. If you are the average American, today from milk and dairy products you will eat the equivalent cholesterol(161 mg) contained in 53 slices of bacon. In 1999 that will add up to the same cholesterol contained in 19,345 slices of bacon. By age 52 that will equal the same cholesterol contained in one-million slices of bacon. Raynaud's is a disease of poor circulation. Science has little clue what causes heart and circulatory diseases. An ounce of provention is worth many pounds of cure. My suggestion? Do not eat the same cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon today and tomorrow and every day for the rest of your life...in other words, NOTMILK!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: ECG
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-01-20 05:39:17
Comments: I have a question. Since dairy products, milk in particular, seems to be so unhealthy, is the same true for yogurt? It's my understanding that yogurt has some benefits, such as helping calm the stomach especially when you're on an antibiotic. Is this true?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Your stomach is a "cauldron" of digestive juices and acid. In order to offset and neutralize that acid the milk, yogurt or ice cream become wonderful buffers. Problem is, if you ingest the dairy after a heavy meal you will take away the stomach's ability to digest its food. Whatever is in that stomach will have a long time to ferment and putrify. Ultimately, your stomach must secrete more acid to finish the job of digestion. If you are on an antibiotic, chances are that you are fighting an illness and already are congested and have mucus. Yogurt will create more mucus. Eighty percent of the protein in yogurt is CASEIN, a tenacious glue and powerful allergin. Eat dairy products and you will always create mucus. There are absloutely no exceptions to this reaction. All humans are so affected. Where does the mucus go? Into every organ of your body, and then out of your body. Copious amounts of mucus mean awful bowel movements. Give up all dairy products and in one week you will see a remarkable difference. Sometimes the effects are not immediately seen...the mucus might take 10 hours to appear and by that time you'd hardly make the connection.

While you are well I would like for you to try a little experiment. Go one week and do not eat any milk or dairy. On the eighth day eat two slices of pizza and have ice cream for dessert. It will take ten to fifteen hours to see the real effects. Pay attention to the seven days and how well you feel. On day eight you will note the difference...and swear off all milk and dairy forever!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NYC, now DC
Time: 1999-01-20 01:02:10
Comments: What's this crap about milk being recommended now as a preventive for colon cancer? Who's behind that?? Can you believe this cow manure?? This veritable mucus of mindless media?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Noel,

Who do you imagine is behind it? Let me describe the process by which most Americans get scientific information. Five easy steps:

1) A hypothesis is formulated by somebody with an agenda.

2) Funding is provided by that group looking to sustantiate their hypothesis.

3) A research study is designed, then performed and data is interpreted so that the "INVESTMENT" of the group financing the study "PAYS DIVIDENDS."

4) The group that originally financed the study throws a party-style press conference and the media reports the story, as a function of advertising dollars that they receive from that group financing the study.

5) The public watches a carefully edited 30 second bit on the evening news and reads the story the next day in one of many newspapers having mottos such as: "All the News that Fits...We Print!"

The study you refer to never tested the effects of milk on colon cancer patients, only the effects of calcium supplements, yet, many newspapers and newscasts jumped to the conclusion that milk was the miracle cancer-preventer.

Here is another example of how America was brainwashed by the nation's media:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/101898.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: D Carrasco
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-01-20 00:16:38
Comments: You say that milk causes diabetes? It is thought that milk MAY be ONE contributing factor to diabetes type I.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Please read my recent diabetes column. There is compelling scientific evidence suggesting that early exposure to bovine proteins is the reason that sixteen million Americans now have Type-I or Type-II diabetes.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Bill Montgomery
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Portland, Oregon
Time: 1999-01-18 14:59:31
Comments: in addition to giving up dairy products, should we stop eating eggs too?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Bill,

Although I sometimes am caught with a little "egg on my face" I do not personally eat chicken ova. They happen to be very rich in protein and amino acids and are easily digested. It is my choice not to eat animal products but I see no danger in your eating eggs. For the best product find a source of eggs that come from unstressed chickens. The price of these eggs might run as high as 15 cents each but you will see and taste the difference. Those eggs will come from birds who are free range, unlike the ones who are stuffed into cages and fed excrement with hormones and chemicals. The chickens who lay "supermarket" eggs produce on average 300 eggs each year and are exposed to 20 hour light cycles. The "expensive/healthy eggs" come from birds living normal lives laying two-three dozen eggs each year.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Barbara Zeitlin Kravets, CCN LNC
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-01-17 03:25:58
Comments: 1/16/99 Dear Mr. Cohen, As a Licensed and Board Certified Clinical Nutritionist and former Department Head of a hospital, one of the hallmarks of my now private practice is the deletion of cow mammary fluids. You might, therefore, imagine how delighted I was to find your web site in Natural Living Today, page 20. You have done a quality job of making the case for "notmilk", or as I say to my clients, "Don't Do Dairy". I will continue to review your web site on a weekly basis, and look forward to more good literature, references and even a response to my email to you , should your time allow.

Name: Randy Singh
Website: Hardcore Bhangra!!!
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Montreal, Canada
Time: 1999-01-17 01:33:00
Comments: Notmilkman, I have recently been made aware of milks negative effects on one's body and all the facts and research presented to me have caused me much distress as I was once an avid milk fan. However, I am slowly eliminating milk from my diet as envisioning the pus and other crap makes me sick. I am a highschool student and have a science fair project to do and have decided to do it on milk: it does the body, good? and am in need of ideas for simple experiments I can do to enhance my display or other interesting links and perhaps entice others to also eliminate dairy products. Thanks in advance and keep up the good work!

Name: Ron Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1999-01-16 11:37:56
Comments: rBST/rBGH has failed to gain approval for use in Canada. I wonder if this is a matter to rejoice in? IF they had passed rBST/rBGH for use we could have demanded and gotten the RICHARD, ODAGLIA, DESLEX REPORT which records test animals developing gross lesions (cancer) when tested for 180 days with rBST/rBGH. That is the one report the DAIRY INDUSTRY cannot afford to release. My request for information was denied as the Information Commissioner ruled that the datas were considered TRADE SECRET. My request was based on imports of butter fats from the U.S. These contain rBST/rBGH, therefore approval of importation of rBST/rBGH already in the food stuffs amounted to approval of rBST/rBGH and increased IGF-1 for ingestion by people. IGF-1 acts as cancer "fertilizer." This is approval without admitting it or advertising it. It is time that we demand a measurement of rBST/rBGH and IGF-1 in the imports or alternately boycott all DAIRY or both!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Ron,

Your comments will be addressed in the ANTIDAIRY Coalition weekly column of January 17, 1999. You are absolutely correct in what you have written but there is much more.

Something is rotten in Canada.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mindy
Website: no homepage yet :(
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: California
Time: 1999-01-15 19:59:51
Comments: Good thing I was already a vegan when I ordered this book! It is a great testimonial and I am getting the paberback now as well for an easy reference. I have a drawing of a cow covered in open sores with a huge veiny udder strapped to a milk machine and needles sticking out of her body that say "pesticide", "r-BGH", etcetera...This one reads, "Got Pus?" Some of my other slogans are, "recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone-Is it in You?", "Where's YOUR tumor?", and other silly slams.

Name: Stacey Campbell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ottawa Canada
Time: 1999-01-15 13:22:37
Comments: You will be extremely pleased to know (and I am sure you already do) that last night Health Canada BANNED RBGH!!!! Monsanto said they couldn't understand it and that the US has been using it for years. The researchers cited that it threatens the health of the animal and of the consumer and that it is highly irresponsible for an animal to output that much. They also realized the financial repercussions as Canadians were very much opposed to it. Monsanto can appeal the decision but I really don't think they will. Hopefully with the recent findings of the researchers, the US will re-evaluate rbgh without the help of Monsanto. :) This is GREAT news!! On another note. I quit drinking milk Sept 19 after a horrific bout of food poisoning from cheese. I started to feel better without it and started to research why. I have had asthma for most of my life and it has decreased 95%. I think of all of the money that I have spent on medication that didn't work, the frustration of everyday living being constantly ill, it fuels my drive to inform others. I am a complete vegan now and never in my life have I been so healthy, calm and happy!!

Name: chris hinckley
Website: my.very.own.
Referred by: From a Friend
From: coral springs , florida
Time: 1999-01-15 05:30:44
Comments: thank you for teaching me how shitty milk is

Name: Jennifer Davidson
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Victoria BC
Time: 1999-01-15 04:48:43
Comments: For those of you who read this information and choose to deny its connections to disease, may face some hard truths further down the road when health problems arise within your own lives and the ones you love. Its not just dairy causing health problems. Take a few minutes to look up info on macrobiotics, it is very informative on the basics one needs to maintain balanced health or correct it. I myself come from a generation of now young adults who are learning to re-feed themselves good food. Food that is whole grains, organically produced, non dairy options. A lot of us have been raised from the womb on preservatives and fillers and many unnutritous quick foods. Give a little thought to what you are putting in your body, think about what many companies are selling you on a daily basis. Taking shortcuts and cutting corners with your eating habits will cost you in the long run. If you look at what was on the plates of our people just 100 years ago you would see drastic differences in food quality. Think about what you are putting in your mouth at your next meal. Look into cancer statistics, and its direct connection to poor nutrition. If you dont agree with this , then there is no point in telling you to unplug your microwave because you probably believe its a HEALTHY cooking utensil in your kitchen. Doesnt the word nuke scare you just a little? My words to your eyes!

Name: Khristina Ramirez
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Crescent City, CA
Time: 1999-01-14 01:07:24
Comments: Along with milk being the cause of many health problems, my biggest concern would be the threat of Mad Cow Disease, which supposedly cannot be contracted by humans. However, there have been several reports of the disease in humans. I don't believe milk or any dairy product is safe for human consumption. There are plenty of milk substitutes that can be used to replace milk, and they are a lot more healthy!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Khristina,

The protein particle (PRION) that has been identified as the substance responsible for MAD COW DISEASE is immune to 1,000 degree Fahrenheit heat treatment.

The human equivalent of MAD COW DISEASE is called Cruetzfeldt-Jacob Disease (CJD) and its symptoms are similar to Alzheimer's Disease with one great difference. In CJD the brain turns into a sponge and there is rapid detioration in behavior after the first symptom is observed. That sponge-like appearance of the brain leads to the "scientific" name for this affliction that humans catch from cows: bovine spongiform encephalitis.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Patrice Newman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Saint Louis, Missouri
Time: 1999-01-13 00:05:20
Comments: I cannot tolerate milk. I have been told that when I was six months old, I kept throwing the bottle of milk out of my crib. But of course, it was given back to me and I was forced to drink it. I can still remember being forced to sit at the dinner table until I finished my milk. I tried to outwait my parents and get a chance to pour the milk down the drain, but I was usually caught and forced to drink it. But the milk IMMEDIATELY came back out - one end or the other! For some reason, my parents just thought I didn't want to drink the stuff, that I was being stubborn. How silly. Now, I can finally not feel guilty about not drinking milk since I have been out on my own. Thank you very much.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Patrice,

Here is a Josh Billings quote which applies to you and your parents:

"Wisdom don't consist in knowing more that is new, but in knowing less than is false."

Frank Oski, MD, was once Chief of Pediatrics at Johns Hopkins Medical School. He observed that at least half of all children have violent allergic reactions to milk and dairy products and that the parents of these kids rarely make the association. Congratulations at having the vision and wisdom to observe a truth that many others are blind to.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1999-01-12 17:21:26
Comments: Well done for presenting the facts! It takes a lot of guts to go against the norm. I am particularly annoyed with how dairy (and meat) has affected our family. One of my grans has had Chrohn's desease and the other has severe arthritis. One of my grandads has had a heart attack. My mother has also been diagnosed with mild coronary desease. They all believe milk and meat are healthy parts of their diets and consume them regularly. I have looked in books in the library and found that all of them list milk and dairy as a possible links to these deseases. Your site has been very informative. Please keep up the good work.

Name: Mary
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minnesota
Time: 1999-01-12 08:02:15
Comments: I am a person that has suffered from an allergy to milk protein for at least 40 years. It is difficult to find alternatives to milk. Some taste so bad and others have such a high glycemic level and much of the time milk is hidden in the foods you buy.

Name: Doris Olsen
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Springville, Utah
Time: 1999-01-11 20:22:05
Comments: We attended the Nutrition Conference at BYU in Provo, Utah last September and heard you speak. Near the end of your talk you mentioned a Japan Study that was made from about 1950 until the mid-1970s. This was reported in the Journal of Nutrition in 1978. You said that you had covered it in one of your weekly editorials. I would like to read that particular editorial. Please enlighten as to where I can find it. Since September I have been reading your weekly website articles and enjoying them. Thanks for the good work you are doing. And thanks for your help in finding your article. Doris

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Doris,

There has never before been a nation that changed their diet as dramatically as Japan. Their example was preserved by meticulous record keeping and is revealed in my column. In 1950 the average Japanese consumed just 5.5 pounds of milk amd dairy products per year. By 1995 that average yearly consumption had increased to over 117 pounds. During that twenty-five year period the average 12-year-old girl gained 19 pounds, grew 4 1/2 inches and the age of her first mensus (period) went from 15.2 years to 12.2 years. Read about these facts and other examples of resulting poor health at:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/072698.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Annika Robertson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Where born or living?
Time: 1999-01-11 18:39:58
Comments: After reading the mainly hostile comments from other visitors I can only conclude that you are right. It's usually when people have a gut feeling of being in the wrong that they become venomous. I stopped drinking milk a few months ago for various reasons and I noticed after a week that all of a sudden the puffiness in my face had gone and that my skin generally looked healthier. I'm looking forward to see if my almost lifelong hay fever companion will go too. Being trained as an evolutionary ecologist, I must say that starting to drink other species milk is a genial move. I'm sure that the habit would be widely spread if it wasn't so well guarded. But in order for new evolutionary "habits" to catch on, natural selection usually seems to provide a-hell-of-a-lot-of individuals with lower fitness which can be read, among other things (to safe guard myself), as "disease" or "death". I'm not sure I want to be on that list, or my children.

Name: Emily
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-01-11 18:37:45
Comments: I just wanted to ask April if she had actually read the book or just skimmed the site? I also wanted to say (although as a scientist I'm sure she's not interested in emotion-based arguments) that it is undeniable that milk production is exploitative, often causing suffering and certainly resulting in the deaths of unwanted male calves, plus the cows when they are no longer economically viable milk-producers. Furthermore, even if it is only the fact that milk causes alergies in some people that is being brought to peoples attention by the NOTMILK site, this may have the positive effect of people questioning whether it is their dairy consumtion making them feel rotten, wheras without it many people would go on assuming that there is nothing wrong with drinking the milk which is naturally only intended for calves and looking in vain for the cause of their ailments.

Name: sarja and jyll
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1999-01-11 05:27:06
Comments: This is so far-fetched, it's not even funny! Don't you have anything better to do than obsess over why milk is , supposedly bad for you? Wow! I can't believe people would waste thier time with this stuff!-sarja and jyll

Name: David Alden
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Quartz Hill, near Palmdale!
Time: 1999-01-11 04:56:52
Comments: Gee...thank you for the insults. By the way, for breakfast this morning, i had cereal, WITH MILK!!!

Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1999-01-10 13:28:45
Comments: Some of the facts which I have become acquainted with in my study of milk: FACT: IGF-1 is the most powerful hormone known AND is identical in cows and humans AND is found at every cancer site. Don't believe me? Ask any cancer researcher. FACT: Increase of IGF-1 at rates of 10 billionths of a gram over natural levels in humans stimulate cancer cell growth. FACT: rBST in cows increases IGF-1 in milk. Every company involved in bST research including Monsanto and FDA agree on that. FACT: Because they agree on the previous statements the RICHARD,ODAGLIA,DESLEX REPORT can never be released. FACT: Calcium in milk buffers stomach acidity preventing the degradation of hormones and proteins into basic aminos. Dick Teske of CVM testified to that. FACT: Pasteurization has no effect on IGF-1 according to National Institute for Health. FACT: rBST in powdered form was SPRINKLED into cow milk and heated to 69-71 C for 25-30 minutes in the single experiment cited by Juskevich and Guyer as proof that rBST is 90% destroyed by pasteurization. FACT: No dairy processor anywhere in North America uses that pasteurization protocol and no dairy farmer in North America SPRINKLES rBST/rBGH into his milk.

Name: April
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Indiana
Time: 1999-01-10 07:06:46
Comments: I have a BS in microbiology from Purdue University. I worked for a company that produces the bacterial cultures used in making yogurt, cheese, sour cream, etc. If you go back to my original messages, I am questioning your misleading propaganda against milk use in everyday adult consumption (excluding those with allergies). You use buzzwords like wood glue and cancer without knowing the how and why or having the experimental evidence to back it up. You are unnecessarily frightening those who do not have the background to understand the complete picture. I urge everyone who reads the material on this site to do their own investigation of the facts before dismissing milk and milk products entirely.

Name: April
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Indiana
Time: 1999-01-09 11:23:45
Comments: You missed my point on the water thing. As far as breast feeding, yes it works because the proteins are broken down into amino acids and small peptides which are what the baby needs. The function of the original protein is lost but the nutritional value to the baby is not. I could go through this page and argue every point but that would be a waste of my time. I will say the only thing I find remotely valid is that some people have milk allergies, but that does not mean the rest of us should not drink it.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear April,

In your previous post you identified yourself as a scientist, more informed about biology and nutrition than myself. The next time you post (if you do) I would like to know your credentials. Do you actually have a college degree?

To make a statement that a baby needs amino acids and broken peptides and to ignore the vast amount of evidence in the medical literature concerning intact, complete lactoferrins and immunoglobulins in breast milk is to come to the NOTMILK site with an enormous bias and lack of understanding of simple biological mechanisms. There are hundreds of studies supporting the fact that breastfeeding delivers complete proteins to the nursing infant.

Cow's milk proteins used in formula are "foreign" proteins and they cause an antibody/antigen reaction. These proteins survive the stomach acid and get through the gut, INTACT so that they enter the bloodstream and antibodies are produced to their presence. Existance of the antibodies becomes proof that the proteins survive.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Hope
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1999-01-09 02:07:48
Comments: Dear Notmilkman, Great site! I have been conciously TRYING to avoid milk prodoucts. I don't drink it (it makes my mouth feel slimey) and it gives me a terrible aftertaste. I'm still having trouble finding non-dairy cheeses, butter, ice-creams and so forth, so I'm sad to say that I still use the dairy versions. I haven't located very many health food stores in my location of Enterprise Alabama who sell the likes of tofu deserts, rice milk "ice cream", soy cheese and butter and so forth. I have two children who went from breast to soy milk, so I'm confidant that with hard work and effort I'll be able to be totally dairy free. I have only one question, is it alright to continue my consumption of soy products and drink soy milk?

Dear Hope,

The soy milk and soy products seem like good alternatives to me. However, keep an eye on the list of ingredients in those soy cheeses. Many of them contain CASEIN, a milk derivative. What's the point of manufacturing a dairy-free cheese and using a dairy component? I don't get it!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: April Camp
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Indiana
Time: 1999-01-09 00:35:19
Comments: This is about the most misleading information I have seen put in print. I am a scientist who obviously is more informed about chemistry, biology and nutrition than the person who has presented this "information". You should go and take some college courses at a reputable university before displaying such ignorance to frighten people who don't know the facts. Casein is a protein found in ALL milk and gets broken down into dipeptides and absorbed into our small intestine. Therefore, it could never be responsible for the ailments you claim. Oh, and by the way water is also used in wood glue. Should we all give that up also?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear April,

Water is used in wood glue to DILUTE the CASEIN. It might interest you to know that in 1993 the LANCET (the British medical journal) published a series of letters from Ben Mepham, Ph.D., suggesting that casein provided protection for IGF-I peptides. Furthermore, Mepham and other scientists presented evidence that bovine proteins survived both digestion and bypassed the hypothetical construct known as "gut closure."

I met with a group of scientists at FDA in April of 1995. At that meeting these brilliant men with backgrounds in chemistry, biology and nutrition made statements similar to yours. "Take a college course... Proteins do not survive digestion...We're scientists and we know better than you..."

I asked these esteemed scientists whether or not breastfeeding worked. "Do nursing human moms pass anything on to their infants?" Their collective opinion was no, because proteins do not survive digestion. April...every nursing mother on this planet and her pediatrician know that breastfeeding works. Seems to me the only ones not aware of this are the male scientists at FDA and April in Indiana. Perhaps you skipped that part of your education as an undergrad.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Patricia Panitz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Centerville, MA
Time: 1999-01-08 01:43:48
Comments: I am a 52 year old woman who has had allergies all my life, including dust, some kind of vegetation from August until first frost (never bothered to find out exactly what it was), and most especially to animal dander. This meant that even though I love cats, I could never have one as a pet. Seven years ago, when I was 45, both my husband and I gave up eating meat because of health and animal rights issues we had recently found out about. A few years after this a stray cat came to our door very thin and miserable looking who we fed and petted so he decided to stay. It was summer and I found that with the house all open, my allergies weren't nearly as bad, particularly since I was taking vitamin C. Winter was more difficult with everything shut tight (I live in Mass), but massive doses of vitamin C and other herbs like Nettle helped tremendously; however, still my lungs were often very congested and I would wheeze when I breathed very cold air. This past summer I decided to drop all dairy products, again because of animal rights (abuse) issues involving the treatment of food animals on factory farms, but expected no benefit other than a good conscience. Six months later I find that all my allergies have almost disappeared; I can clean my house without sneezing and blowing my nose constantly when I'm dusting (which really slows down the work), but most importantly, I no longer react strongly to animal dander. This, despite the fact that it is winter and the house is shut tight and the fact that I can now allow my cat to sit on my lap for long periods in the evening and even sleep on my bed - all "no-no's" before. We've even adopted another cat as a companion for our first one. I still take the vitamin C, but less dosage, and amazingly, my lungs are clear! Also, when I go outdoors I'm no longer wheezing in the cold air, even on very bitter nights. I'm eagarly waiting next summer to see if my summertime allergy is either gone or much reduced. I attribute all these effects to giving up dairy (there's no other possible explanation). If someone had told me 6 months ago that my allergies would almost disappear, I would not have believed them. Since this has happened, I've done some reading on this subject. I wish I had found out about this years ago. Keep up your splendid work!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Patricia,

Every single person who has taken my advice to give up milk and dairy products completely has noticed the same thing that you previously thought to be impossible...a dramatic and positive change in his or her health.

Your case is not the exception...it's the RULE!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Amy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NY
Time: 1999-01-07 20:12:53
Comments: I don't really care for this homepage, seeing as I'm connected with the dairy industry and eat tons of dairy products everyday. Sure, maybe milk has some bad qualities, but what food doesn't? Did you know that in every jar of jam there are an average of 4 insects? There's a lot of other things you eat that you don't know about. If we were to boycott every product that had negative effects, everyone in the world would starve. As for all these "studies", I'd like to see the real proof. And who's to say mice react to the same things that humans do? Whoever believes everything on this page really needs to get a grip on reality. Don't believe everything you hear.

Name: carlos pronsato
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Washington DC
Time: 1999-01-07 06:06:40
Comments: Your page is great! I would like to see more info on the economics of milk.

Dear Carlos,

Economics? A quart of milk costs under a buck while a six ounce vial of liquid Benadryl (anti-histamine) is about $3 dollars. Save four dollars by not buying the milk! How's that for economics?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Harriet Finkelstein
Website: SAGE SEER FROM SYDNEY IS ALWAYS SAYING SOMETHING
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Down Under
Time: 1999-01-07 01:55:23
Comments: My daughter had severe ear infections when she was little and a doctor told me (17 years ago) that she had a dairy allergy! He was definitely ahead of his time. Then my nephew went through the same thing, I told my sister that he was allergic to dairy - but she wouldn't listen to me. He ended up with an extremely rare ear disease (sort of a cancer of the inner ear) called 'Colesteotoma'. He needed major operations on both ears, and I believe 100% that this could could been avoided. My mother, who is 75, has suffered with sinus infections all of her life, when she heeded my advice and got off the dairy (about 3 years ago) it all cleared up! Leave ALL animals alone to do their own thing - don't eat 'em and don't drink their bodily fluids!

Name: David Sloan
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Columbus, OH
Time: 1999-01-06 03:06:49
Comments: If milk is so bad, why would God lead the Israelites to a land of MILK and honey? God loved the Israelites. What about goat's milk? Isn't it better than cow's milk?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear David,

Let's place a historical perspective on the "land of milk and honey." In EXODUS 1 we read that the king of Egypt commanded that every newborn Hebrew male be thrown into the Nile river. Such trauma of death to all male offspring meant that nursing Jewish mothers would soon have their milk "dry up." A new Israel meant more than an end to slavery... a "Land of milk and honey" would be a land to celebrate the sweetness of life, a land where there would be many nursing mothers breastfeeding their infants.

As to your question about goat's milk...Goat's milk is the perfect food for baby goats.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Carla
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: London, Ont.
Time: 1999-01-05 08:48:52
Comments: Excellent Web Page!!! I am 24 and just gave up milk products cold turkey 1 1/2 weeks ago. I have read a lot about milk that i had no idea about, and it was enough to get me to "quit milk". (i also eat no meat) I have a 4 year old son, whom i am going to gradually "wean" off of milk. I also have a 1 year old daughter who is still breastfeeding, so i'll have no problems with her because she's never had milk.Well your site is great and to all those people who just won't believe the fact's, i guess "ignorance is bliss". =)

Name: Alexi
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Melbourne, Fl
Time: 1999-01-05 06:33:03
Comments: GREAT WEB SITE!!! For those who are putting this web site down, I can't understand why anyone would prefer a drink consisted of unnecessary hormones, bacteria, and chemicals over soy milk which the body can hardly digest. If it's because one thinks it just tastes better, then don't complain the next time you find a hair in your food at a restaurant or later learn that the cook was dropping roach feces in the food. You can't taste it right?? So, it shouldn't matter. Just like that hot dog preferred over a veggie dog. Both taste the same to me, only the hot dog consists of pig intestines, lips, feet, stomach, fat, and cholesterol, while the veggie dog is natural (meaning, not made up of a dead carcass) containing no fat or cholesterol and high in protein. For those of you with the "don't care attitude," remember our children, children's children and so on will be living on this planet and our dietary choices not only affect our health, but the environment as well. Our rainforest (where we get most of our medicines) is depleting rapidly every day so man can have more land to raise cattle for food and milk production (92.7 million acres - an area larger than the state of Ohio) of tropical rainforest have been cleared for cattle grazing, source: Worldwatch Inst. Paper 103, July 91. Our natural waters are being polluted every day by billions of tons of farm animal waste. Ie; One single farm (depending on the number of animals) can produce more waste than 1 major U.S. city consisting of millions of people. Environmental disasters have accompanied the proliferation of the mega-hog farms in North Carolina. Several large earthen lagoons designed to contain hog manure have ruptured, including one spill last year that spewed 25 million gallons of animal waste into nearby fields and streams Source: Washington Post, 12/22/96. Seventy percent of all fresh American water is used in agriculture, and whereas it takes 25 gallons of that water to produce a pound of wheat, it takes and astonishing 5,214 gallons to produce a pound of beef. Source: University of California. Take it for granted if you will, but this is not paranoia. These are hard core facts and the list goes on. Be a little more educated before you bash the notmilkman. Give him credit for striving to make our world a better place. Read the below quote. It just makes too much sense.

ISN'T MAN AN AMAZING ANIMAL? He kills wildlife--birds, kangaroos, deer, all kinds of cats, coyotes, beavers, groundhogs, mice, foxes, and dingoes--by the million in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions, because eating all those animals leads to degenerative-and fatal- health conditions like heart disease, kidney disease, and cancer. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are being killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."--C. David Coats

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

WOW! Lessons containing both comedy and tragedy are long remembered. That quote was incredible. Thanks for sharing it with us!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: gail
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: usa
Time: 1999-01-05 06:17:44
Comments: Thank God I had a pediatrician 21 years ago who told me that the only people that think you should drink milk are the American Dairy Association. He may have saved my kids lives.

Name: Heartburn Kid
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Palmdale, CA
Time: 1999-01-04 01:13:19
Comments: OK, I get it. FYI, the reason David Alden and I both posted to your site one after another like that is because I do know him. In fact, he was over at my place last night, and we saw your site, and we both felt we needed to put our two cents in.

Also, my name has nothing whatsoever to do with my diet or my physical condition (although reading your site did make me a bit nauseaous). It's actually a play on a pro wrestler's nickname.

I still feel that you simply won't be satisfied until everybody's afraid to eat simply because "it might be bad for you". You, my friend, are a fear-monger. You make people afraid because it draws attention to yourself. I seriously feel you need professional help.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mr. Heartburn,

I kinda guessed that you any your buddy were sharing more than WHOPPERS last night. I recently spent a week in the Los Angeles area and know that Glendale and Quartz Hill are about 35 miles away from each other. Your two letters were sent to me from the same computer terminal...7 minutes apart! It takes a lot to fool the NOTMILKMAN (and his BRILLIANT WEBMASTER, Dave Rietz. Dave has the tools and know-how to discover the source of each message to this guestbook!)

You have made your conclusion but I would like for you to read a second opinion from one of America's most respected physicians.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/100498.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Heartburn Kid
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Palmdale, CA
Time: 1999-01-03 11:45:06
Comments: Well, I can't find anything you haven't blamed on milk. You seem to think that every malady suffered by mankind since the expulsion from the Garden of Eden is directly caused by bovine excretions. Oh, wait, milk probably influencd Eve to listen to the serpent. And I looked at your "Facts" page, you have a lot of circumstantial stuff and plain fabrications, but I saw few cold hard facts. Instead, you use big words and acronyms to confuse the everymen. Well, guess what. I'm not confused. I'm also not convinced. There are quite a few organic dairies out there, you can find totally organic milk (no additives, no inbred cows). But you're probably against that too. People like you simply need something innocuous to scream about, simply to get attention for yourselves. I think your mother never hugged you and that is why you have this glaring need to, metaphorically, yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater. Thank you and good night.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Heartburn Kid,

Perhaps my "problem" is that my mother hugged me too much! :>)

I like your name. Perhaps your diet can be improved so that you no longer have heartburn. A little advice: Lay off the whoppers with cheese, fries and shakes!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: David Alden
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Quartz Hill, CA
Time: 1999-01-03 11:38:15
Comments: Geez, are you psycho. Pus?!? Blood?!? And now we should not give our newborns mother's milk? Then what, soy for the rest of their lives? If i had to eat soy all my life, i would rather have a short life than a long one. I just would not want to be that paranoid over a diet. By the way, tonight for dinner i had a Whopper...WITH CHEESE!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear David,

You have made a little error. I heartily endorse human breast milk for baby humans. That is "NATURE'S PERFECT FOOD!"

While you probably enjoyed your WHOPPER, nothing beats a balanced home-cooked meal. To each, his own. By the way... have you met the HEARTBURN KID from California, author of the letter previous to yours?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Robert K. Orndoff, Ph.D.
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 1999-01-03 07:42:00
Comments: Great Web site, Bob!!! Get in touch via e-mail--It would be wonderful to be able to communicate with you. All my best, Bob

Name: Gordon B.Stull, V.M.D.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Shamong, New Jersey
Time: 1999-01-03 01:22:17
Comments: I recently wrote to Mr. Ted Tucker of Real Networks hoping that he will interview you on Pacifica Radio as your story is an important one and needs to be heard by as many Americans as possible. Not only is your story important for us to understand the dangers of dairy but just as important are the lessons in how our government agencies fail to protect for a price. It is, in my mind, a far more important story than than of Monica Lewinsky. The story of Monsanto and its co-conspirators in the US govenmental agencies that are supposed to protect american health is a story of treason and betrayal of trust to the American People by its governent.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Conspiracy? You must have had a sneak preview of today's ANTIDAIRY Coalition column!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: julie juggs
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1999-01-02 19:06:10
Comments: I'm doing a crossword puzzle (this is no joke, i swear) and I was wondering if you could help me. What is a dark dairy product? Thanks for whatever help you can give me.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Julie,

You need not look any further than little TOMMY-RUGRAT'S brown milkstache. The dairy industry recently painted that mustache on the diapered bald-headed infant in their full page ads seen in magazines and on billboards. The dark dairy product is chocolate milk. For children under the age of one, the dark dairy PROGNOSIS is Infant Insulin Dependant Diabetes Mellitus.

Check out the picture of little Tommy:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/rughead2.jpg

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sarah
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Hampshire
Time: 1998-12-31 23:47:17
Comments: It seems no matter what people provide for factual information on any subject, there will always be someone to disaggree, mock, or argue the matter. All a part of human nature! However, I wanted to let you know that I appreciate the information you provide as well as the open guest book. I myself am a strict vegetarian (boarderline vegan) and severly lactose intolerant. Besides the fact that I don't want to eat dairy products of any kind, I can't. I am often asked why I don't take "that pill" to combat my lactose intolerance. NO WAY! If my body can not naturally handle something, why take a foreign substance to counteract the intolerance? Just to enjoy a bowl of ice cream or chocolate shake? Thanks to products like soy milk, sorbets, and tofu cheeses, I, along with many other lactose intolerant individuals, can enjoy non-dairy "dairy" products. Again, thank you for making information available to everyone. For some people it be useless information while for others it will make a big difference and even open a few more eyes.

Name: Ron Marion
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: North Carolina
Time: 1998-12-31 08:12:06
Comments: NOTMILKMAN, After having performed a myriad of tests on myself, I have arrived at the conclusion that for me there is a direct correlation between acne breakouts and dairy product consumption. Now, I'm not insinuating that dairy product consumption is the underlying cause of acne. However, I do believe that in certain individuals dairy products are indeed the acne culprit. I read an excerpt one time from an interview with Marla Marples where she cited dairy product consumption as her 'acne culprit'. It read something like this..."Whenever I consume too many dairy products, I experience acne breakouts." This was posted on a fitness center bulletin board where I was working out at the time. As long as I avoid milk, milk shakes, ice cream, sour cream, cream cheese, etc., I NEVER have acne flare-ups. Thanks for sharing your findings with us. Regards, R.M.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Ron,

I do not understand how anyone can associate milk and dairy products with acne. Milk and dairy products are filled with healthy things like... hormones and fat and cholesterol and pus. Squeeze one of those zits and out oozes...oh my goodness...teenagers with hormones with pus and oily zits? Could there be a possible connection?...Nah...

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Teddy Bear
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MidWest
Time: 1998-12-31 03:02:40
Comments: You paranoid knuckleheads !!!! With all the things people do to each other and themselves from cocaine, alcohol, smoking, guns, gangs, verbal abuse, racism, pornagraphy, and the list goes on and on..... You folks have nothing better to do than attack the wholesome product of milk. I drank un-pasteurized milk for 22 years and according to you flighty people, I ought to be dead.... SAVE THE WHALES -- WILL YOU ( at least that's something that should be done !!!! )

My... my. Such a wealth of scientific evidence on your part.
Well... to your singular credit... you did leave an Email address.

I suggest that if what you state is true... you can consider youself
quite lucky.

I cannot say the same for myself... and the point of the book, and two
WEB sites, is to try and have FEWER folks who wind up with cancer... as I did,
and with fewer other "quality of life" life-trashing problems.

You ARE what you eat: 59 bioactive hormones (one of them the most powerful
growth hormone around), residules of up to 52 antibiotics, blood, pus (gee..
only 177 MILLION cells per 8 ounce glass!), feces and more. Such a healthy
beverage, right? Pasteurize it three times before it gets into the fridge...
and it STILL gets rotten in a hurry.

Now that Mr. Cohen has given me the opportunity to KNOW what is in milk/dairy
I say NO THANKS!

Dave Rietz, WEBmaster


Name: Jerry A. Stegenga
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Coral Gables, FL
Time: 1998-12-31 00:34:44
Comments: A number of recent studies show problems with milk consumption that go beyond whether or not a person is capable of handling lactose: One is that lactose itself is a risk factor for heart disease since in appreciable quantities it induces copper deficiency which in turn can lead through additional mechanisms to heart pathologies and mortality as observed in lab animals. Another problem is the calcium-to-magnesium of dairy products of approximately 12:1 which is directly at odds with the ratio of 1:1 from a Paleolithic diet composed of meats, fruits and vegetables. Depending on the amount of milk in the diet, the resulting overall dietary ratio can go as high as 4 or 5:1. This high ratio leads to reduced magnesium stores, which have the additional ramification of increasing the risk of coronary heart disease, since magnesium helps to lower levels of blood lipids (cholesterol), lower the potential for cardiac arrthymias, lower the oxidation of LDL and VLDL cholesterol (oxidation of cholesterol has been linked to atherosclerosis), and prevent hyperinsulinism. Also milk has been linked to coronary heart disease because of it's very high saturated fat content. Additionally, autoimmune responces are being increasingly recognized as a factor in the development of atherosclerosis. In relation to this, research has shown milk to cause exceptionally high production of certain antibodies which cross-react with some of the body'sown tissues (an autoimmune responce), specifically an immune responce directed against the lining of the blood vessels. This process is thought to lead to atherosclerotic lesions, the first step that paves the way for consequent buildup of plaque. The above is based on the findings of several researchers as reported by Ward Nicholson.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jerry,

I want to thank you for your comments. Milk is a poor source of magnesium as you point out. Magnesium is the center atom of chlorophyll and dark green vegetables remain the most efficient way of obtaining an ideal calcium/magnesium balance. Many milk advocates do not consider that cows get their calcium by eating raw green things, not cooked white body fluids from other mammals.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Catherine
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Texas
Time: 1998-12-30 01:17:06
Comments: Your website says there are plenty of other places to get BETTER sources of calcium, but I couldn't find a list anywhere...can you help? I have been told to avoid dairy and am worried about calcium for my bones and looking toward the future and being concerned w/osteoporosis. THANKS SO MUCH! Please email me w/info. if possible!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Catherine,

I wrote a column addressing that very subject:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/092098.html

You may be surprised to find that there is more calcium in potato chips, beans, raisins, cashews and carrots (just to name a few) than in an equal portion of Nature's Perfect Food (human breast milk).

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Heidi
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Buffalo
Time: 1998-12-28 14:25:04
Comments: I am amazed at how much people believe that Osteoporosis will be cured by increasing the consumption of dairy. "For years" people consumed dairy liberally... these are the same people who are our grandmothers hunched over with Osteoporosis... and our grandfathers with diabetes, clogged arteries, etc. ...why do we Americans think that MORE dairy is going to improve this state of ill-health? Osteoporosis, as far as I am aware, is largely an American problem. Hmm. Oh well... I'll just continue being my tall, althletic, slim, and Vegan self... My question for the NOTMILKMAN- Is it difficult, emotionally, to know you're on the right track with honest, good health information- and have many people insist on remaining resistant to your revelations?... and to be taken as some "bad guy" for not following the flow of blissful nutritional ignorance for the sake of not rocking the boat? Regards, H

Dear Heidi,

I recognize the difficulty in LEARNING a new concept... something that goes against everything you were taught as a child by well-meaning parents, misinformed teachers and reinforced by billions of brainwashing dairy industry dollars.

Schoepenhauer said:

"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally it is accepted as self evident."

My role can be a bit of a burden and gets quite repetitious and tiresome at times. By reaching just one person, I feel that I can make a difference. This DISEASE of mine can become contageous. Please help "infect" others with the truth.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kraeg MacKenzie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 1998-12-28 14:15:13
Comments: Great page & newsletter. Keep up the anti-dairy. I was lacto-ovo-vegetarian for 2 years until about 5 years ago when I turned vegan. This was mainly for ethical reasons, but my unbearable stomach cramps and blocked sinuses disappeared shortly after dropping dairy. Here Down Under one could think (due to the Dairy Industries relentless advertising) that by drinking milk you can: - Be a legend. - Avoid osteoperosis. - Attract members of the opposite sex (it doesn't seem to take into account sexual orientation). - Have a huge sex drive and carry on many extra-marital affairs at once. - Have perfect looking skin. - Take out criminals who are holding up shops. - Get more vitamins and minerals than you could from orange juice, water and sports drinks. - Be the best you can be. Hmmmm...... Dairy Good? Dairy Bad!

Name: Catarrah Fonda
Website: SEX, SOYA MILK & THE PSYCHIC
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Australia
Time: 1998-12-28 03:07:15
Comments: Scary movie - Stephen King's THE SHINING is even scarier when you note how bad the little kid's dairy allergy is! (The 'little kid' is the main actor). He can barely breathe or talk properly!! This movie is worth watching just to reel in HORROR at the evils of dairy on our body!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Catarrah,

Steven King and MILK have something in common...neither should be consumed before going to bed! The results can be horrifying! Be scared...be very scared!!!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Christa
Website: Truemania!
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Time: 1998-12-23 21:29:24
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I first heard about the Not Milk Dairy Colition by reading an article in Nexus Magazine. I had been vegetarian for many years, but the information that you offered in that article was the last straw for me and dairy products. I have an 18 month old son who we are now raising vegan. I just wanted to thank you for opening up our eyes about this issue, and possibly saving us from future illness. We have learned so much and tried so many new foods that we never would have if we'd continued to consume dairy products. You are doing a great job; and I continue to spread the word about dairy products when I can. You've probably already noticed this, but it takes a pretty thick skin to weather the unkind looks and comments when you tell people you do not use cow's milk or any dairy products for that matter. Just wanted to tell you, after reading a few of the ignorant comments in the guestbook, to keep your chin up. You are fighting a fight many of us wouldn't have the 'sweetbreads' to fight on our own. Truly, Christa Trueman

Name: Dr. Veronica Griffin Ph.D
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Australia
Time: 1998-12-23 07:10:46
Comments: I agree with you about the dangers of consuming pasteurized milk. Most of my patients when taken off milk, improve considerably!

Name: knowledge about milk
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From:
Time: 1998-12-22 18:49:58
Comments: Are you nuts? Don't you research respectable sources? You are a idiot!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Your letter contains two questions, one conclusion and lacks a valid signature and EMAIL address.

Question number one. Am I nuts? ANSWER: No.

Question number two. Do I research respectable sources? ANSWER: Here are the reference citations in MILK-The Deadly Poison.

http://www.notmilk.com/referenc.html

In checking my references, please pay careful attention to the Journal of the American Medical Association, New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of Pediatrics, Journal of Endocrinology and LANCET studies. I trust that you respect these sources.

Your conclusion..."Your a idiot." Perhaps I am. I did take the time to answer your letter so you might very well have made your point!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1998-12-19 20:23:20
Comments: Robert, While researching some of these "facts" that you have presented here I came across the following: More than 98 percent of convicted felons are bread eaters. More than 90 percent of violent crimes are committed withing 24 hours of eating bread. Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low occurrence of cancer, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease and osteoporosis. Bread has been proven to be addictive. Bread is often a "gateway" food item, leading the user to harder items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter and even cold cuts. Newborn babies can choke on bread. Most American bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babbling. In light of these frightening statistics, we propose the following bread restrictions: No sale of bread to minors. No advertisiing of bread within 1000 feet of a school. A 300 percent federal tax on all bread to pay for all the societal ills we might associate with bread. No animal or human images, nor any primary colors (which may appeal to children) may be used to promote bread usage. A $4.2 zillion fine on the three biggest bread manufacturers. As you can see each one of these statements is 100% correct! Maybe you should add bread to your list? Or maybe you should get your "facts" straight? As always, Jim

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

It is clear to me who you are "BREAKING BREAD" with. You found this information "while researching?" Interesting. The above was written and distributed by the CIGARETTE INDUSTRY early in 1998. We all know that satire and humor are powerful tools. Perhaps the millions of lung cancer victims and their families now have something to laugh about. Hey...that $208 billion dollar settlement must have tickled your fancy!

Like the cigarette industry, the dairy industry has plenty of secrets. My favorite one is about IGF-I, the most powerful hormone in the human body is exactly alike the most powerful hormone in a cow's body. That hormone has been identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast cancer. Do you think that this fact, published in dozens of medical journals is as "FUNNY" as the "convicted felon" reference in the first line of your letter?

Your DAIRY INDUSTRY will soon have plenty to laugh about, particularly after alerting parents of infants under the year of one through RUGRAT MILK MUSTACHE ads that milk is safe to drink for that age group. The New England Journal of Medicine and the Journal of Pediatrics both advised that kids under the age of one should never drink whole milk. I'll give you a hint about what they did NOT find funny: GOT JUVENILE DIABETES?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: veganma
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: ..
Time: 1998-12-18 20:06:49
Comments: Awesome site!!

Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1998-12-18 19:32:14
Comments: Robert, your discovery of and informing the public of the corruption on both sides of the U.S./Canada border that enabled rBST/rBGH to be approved in the U.S. is being heard. Canadian scientists are now standing up to the managers and Ministers Responsible in the Canadian Government who wish to approve this unhealthy additive to an already unhealthy hormonal/viral mixture that they've brainwashed us for years into using. It is very possible that without you making this information public, the Canadian scientists would have been removed from their present positions so they couldn't interfere with the Monsanto/Government agenda.

Name: Noel Kaufmann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York City (originally), now DC
Time: 1998-12-16 19:49:45
Comments: It seems like an uphill battle, against the dairy and meat industries, but it is all well worth being a vigilante for education and health. Good work!

Name: Kevin Jeffreys
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Missouri
Time: 1998-12-16 08:36:30
Comments: For those of you who miss the taste of macaroni and cheese but now get repulsed by the thought of eating dehydrated, compressed cow breast milk combined with the lining of a calf’s stomach (rennet) here is a recipe for you. You won’t believe the taste and texture... as close to real cheese as your going to get. Put over macaroni or baked potatoes. This recipe and many other great ones can be found in The Uncheese Cookbook. 1 medium potato peeled and coarsely chopped 1 medium carrot, peeled and coarsely chopped 1 medium onion, coarsely chopped 1 cup water 1 cup firm silken tofu, drained and crumbled 1/2 cup nutritional yeast flakes 2 tbs. fresh lemon juice 1 1/4 tsp. salt 1/4 tsp. garlic powder or juice Place the potato, carrot, onion and water into a saucepan and bring to a boil. Cover and reduce heat to medium. Simmer for about 10 minutes or until the vegetables are tender. Transfer to a blender along with the remaining ingredients. Process until velvety smooth. It should taste exactly the same!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kevin,

Thanks for the recipe! For those not in the know... "NUTRITIONAL YEAST" can be found in most health food stores. It is nothing like the yeast used to bake bread. It resembles a fine yellow powder and many compare its taste to parmesian cheese. We use it as flavoring when we make stuffed baked potatoes.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Karen Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: michigan
Time: 1998-12-16 00:46:21
Comments: Now i have heard everything, nondairy mac and chReese. Why bother with organic foods when you can eat synthetic foods. Heaven forbid we should eat animal products....oooh scary. Give me a break eating all synthetic and organic food, is really living life to the highest! As for milk being a foriegn substance...duh! Pretty much anything put into your mouth is a foriegn substance. OH yeah and as for the person who mentioned the other dangerous substances..get a life , live a little. If you are so worried about the things that your body takes in everyday then you should be wearing a tyvex suit and an oxygen tank for the rest of your life. oh well i know that i won't change anyones mind but still i enjoy putting my two cents in!

Name: Road's End Organics, Inc.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Morrisville, Vermont
Time: 1998-12-15 21:21:52
Comments: Hello: I just wanted to let everyone out there who understands the problems with dairy products, but still enjoys the old favorite foods that contain dairy products, about a brand new exciting product that we just began producing. It is called Dairy-Free Macaroni and ChReese and it is the first completely vegan version of the classic food. It comes in a 7 ounce box like the standard stuff, but it does not contain any dairy products. No cheese, no milk, no milk protein, no caseins, no rennet, NO animal products whatsoever....Besides all of the reasons that are obvious, it is important to know that Dairy-Free Macaroni and ChReese contains no cholesterol, lactose, or saturated fats. And it still tastes great..... In addition, Dairy-Free Macaroni and ChReese is certified ORGANIC, which is another human and environmental cause that we should all support. Organic food is much better for our bodies, and for Mother Earth, for hundreds of reasons. Our product is just beginning to be distributed to health food stores all over the country, but is still only in select natural food stores and co-ops that have heard about it so far....But, you can order 2 boxes or 1 or 2 cases, directly off of our web site at http://www2.chreese.com/chreese. Or you can print out a "request form for your store" from this site and bring it to your local store to request that they carry this exciting, new dairy-free classic..... I hope that our efforts in trying to create a healthier, more compassionate world through the food that we eat (and produce) make your lives better as well.. Thanks, Matthew Koch President

Name: John Johnson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-12-15 10:34:15
Comments: My father and mother both drank milk throughout their life. Dad died, from kidney failure, in 1997 at the age of 91 and mom died, in 1998, at the age of 85. My father-in-law was 93 when he died and my mother-in-law is 89 and still very active. Both lived happy and very healthy lives. Maybe, using your logics, if they would have avoided milk, they would still be alive. Might it be that the milk products must have certainly poisoned them and caused their early deaths, since they both drank milk and used dairy products daily. My wife died of cancer in 1997 at the age of 55. Oh, by the way, she did not drink milk, as an adult. Might we conclude that maybe she should have.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT

Dear John,

I was sad to read that your wife died from cancer at the very young age of 55. That must have been a great personal tragedy for you and your family. One out of three Americans will die of cancer. Today we know that the key factor in the growth of every human cancer is a hormone called insulin-like growth factor-I or IGF-I. This hormone is naturally made in our bodies. There are four thousand mammals in the animal kingdom and millions upon millions of different proteins. However, there is just one protein hormone that is known to be identical between two species. It is IGF-I and the two species are human and bovine.

When we drink milk or eat cheese or ice cream we deliver that same exact hormone to our bodies, in a more bioactive form because it is protected from digestion by fat molecules and casein.

Just curious...why didn't your wife drink milk? Did she eat cheese or ice cream or pizza? Having a wife with cancer, and armed with the information that IGF-I accelerates growth of cancer, would you have prevented her or encouraged her from using this hormone in milk and dairy products?

Are you not aware that it takes eight to ten years for a breast cancer to grow into one-million cells, the smallest lump a cancer victim can feel in her breast? Are you also not aware that nearly forty percent of women between the ages of forty and fifty have breast cancer, according to the New York Times, November 8, 1994? (Page C-I, Gina Kolata)

Cancer is very common and usually controlled. Once you get it, one thing makes it grow and that is IGF-I. If one of my loved ones died from cancer and I found out that the FDA, USDA and milk industry had this information (they do) and did not tell you (they do not) I would be quite upset.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Samuel Igwe
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Bronx , NY
Time: 1998-12-14 23:45:28
Comments: Dear Mr Cohen: Good day sir. My name is Samuel and yesterday afternoon I watched your televised appearance on the Melanin Chronicles. The show was very informative and I learned quite a lot that was previously unknown to me. Before this month is over I shall make arrangements to acquire a copy of your book. Thank you for providing this information, something that should have occurred as common sense. I mean as adults we dont drink breast milk (the most nutritious and natural milk for human babies) yet we drink a foreign substance; cows milk. Samuel Igwe

Name: Brian
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: MA
Time: 1998-12-14 11:22:24
Comments: Mr Cohen, I appreciate your site and the true info contained in it. However, I can see by you including the Michael Dye article that you must be partly aware of Hallelujah Acres, www.hacres.com, which promotes much of the same ideas you do. But you also promote, in some of your recipes, dangerous substances yourself, which are clearly spelled out at the above web site. These include refined sugars and salt. Very dangerous and addictive toxins to he body. Keep up the great work on milk, but please research some of these other killers as well. You will have a more well-rounded approach to the subject. Thank you for your time. BN

Name: Lorenzo Grospietro
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: italy
Time: 1998-12-13 21:27:11
Comments: Use milk-bombs against Saddam Hussein! :-))

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lorenzo,

In the Iraqi desert the bacteria in milk would double every 5 minutes or so...How could a nation who campaigns against biological weapons consider using them? That would not be Kosher!

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ashley
Website: Ashley's World
Referred by: From a Friend
From: AL
Time: 1998-12-13 01:43:41
Comments: Hello! My name is Ashley! I don't drink plain milk b/c I personally think it is extremely gross! but I think people should drink milk b/c osteoporosis is definitely not a good thing!! I do get my share of milk--it's just chocolate not white.

Name: Kim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Indiana
Time: 1998-12-12 14:18:03
Comments: I've heard a lot about estrogen as being harmful too....where does it come from and why is it harmful? I'm on birth control, and if I'm not mistaken, it contains estrogen. If this is true, is there another kind of birth control pill that i could take that doesn't contain estrogen? Thank you

Dear Kim,

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I have read many studies regarding estrogen and that was once my field of study. However, I am not a doctor and I do not give medical advice. With that disclaimer, allow me to offer my opinion to your question and comment.

In her lifetime, a woman produces perhaps only the equivalent of a tablespoon's full of estrogen. This steroid hormone works on a tiny scale...a nanomolecular scale which means that it does not take much to exert a powerful biological effect. Estrogen plays a role in the development of, and maintainence of the female physiology. Estrogen also plays a role in many parts of cellular metabolism, including aiding in the uptake of calcium. When a woman goes through menopause she no longer produces as much estrogen as she previously did. The production of estrogen does not cease after menopause, it simply decreases dramatically.

Birth control pills do contain estrogen. Taking this form of of estrogen has been linked to later breast cancers and uterine cancers. However, there is much controversy in that area. Many people feel that dietary sources of estrogen such as soy or yams might be helpful in preventing osteoporosis. Some argue that the levels of estrogen in these foods are too low to make a difference, actually being equal to the amount of estrogen that a post-menopausal woman produces in her fat cells. (It is interesting to note that very obese woman are sometimes protected from osteoporosis---many scientists feel that the natural production of estrogen in fat can be a benefit---it's a trade-off, though because overweight women are at greater risk to heart disease).

Confusing, huh? Now for my opinion. Remember, this is just an opinion. Go to three endocrinologists and three gynecologists and you might get 1/2 dozen varying opinions.

It is my belief that the human body is dynamic. One trillion plus cells, all connect to form a SYSTEM that functions efficiently if it has good fuel and is kept in good health. It is my belief that if one takes a pill or hormone or chemcial that works on one part of the body, many of the other parts of the body will have a chemical or electrical response. For example, the estrogen in your birth control pills send messages to you ovaries and uterus and fat and muscle tissues, adrenal glands, kidneys, thymus, liver and to the medial forebrain bundle of your hypothalamus (just to name a few receptor sites). Each organ and receptor works in different ways by reacting to the presence of estrogen. Some organs will secrete prolactin and some progesterone. Some organs will send electrical signals to other organs, detecting the estrogen. Chains of command initiate billions of cellular responses to the presence of an exogenous chemical. In laywoman's terms, each substance you take "throws the body out of whack!"

While there may be many doctors that will disagree with me (what benefit will many doctors provide if they cannot open up their Physician's Desk References to prescribe medications???) Try to apply your basic knowledge to the following poser. Would you allow a ten year old girl to take just one of your birth control pills? Most adults would instinctively say NO to that question. The answer of course should be ABSOLUTELY NOT! Would I want to see a woman introduce hormones to her system every day for thirty years while her body is naturally producing similar hormones? How about just one day? My answer would be NO on both accounts. What she is doing is sending signals to many parts of her body with mixed messages. Not only is that confusing, it is dangerous. How does the human body compensate? No one knows for sure, certainly not the physician who writes the prescriptions for those pills. Those physicians rely upon short term research and rarely take into account the fact that twenty years ago one out of thirty women were expected to get breast cancer and today that rate is one out of seven. On November 8, 1994 the New York Times revealed that nearly two out of five women between the ages of forty and fifty have breast cancer. (Page C-1, Gina Kolata)

In conclusion, Kim, I want to repeat something that I continuously say: "YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT." If you take birth control pills you deliver powerful hormones to your body. I am not an advocate of birth control pills. If you ingest estrogen in pill form, derived from horse urine, you exert powerful and unknown long-term effects upon your body. If you take estrogen derived from cow urine...or COW'S MILK, you do exactly the same. There has NEVER been a long term study on the effects of just one animal hormone on the human body. I cannot fathom the cumulative effect of the different protein and steroid hormones contained in cow's milk on the human system.

Once armed with the knowledge that there are powerful hormones in birth contol pills and in cow's milk, I ask you to use your knowledge of such hormones, combined with your own instinct to decide whether or not that is what you want to continue doing to yourself.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Tricia Rose
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Connecticut
Time: 1998-12-12 07:59:04
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, Thank you for your commitment to this very important issue. I hope I can take your advice to heart and stop consuming dairy since it seems that it causes much physical distress. I will pass on your information and send others to your site! Happy Holiday Season Tricia PS- One of the other visitors to your site mentioned that he thought dairy products caused acne. Is this true?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Tricia,

I remember when I was in high school...ZITS ARE TRUAMATIC to any teenager! Had I known then what I now know...Discontinue the fat, cholesterol, hormones and pus from your diet and your complexion magically clears up! The answer to curing acne? NOTMILK!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Chris
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 1998-12-12 07:20:12
Comments: Dear "NotMilk", What is your problem?? I wrote to you recently and I say f**k you. That's right. You said you were *LOL* well I got something to say. Dont delete this, that proves you are a wussy. What is with you. You think that you can MAGICALLY control peoples minds that the most healthiest substance in the world can be POISON???? GET REAL!!!! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! and you say Bill Clinton should be impeached for posing for a Milk commercial, you are low, truly low. Regards, (*LOL*) Chris

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Chris,

Clinton is allergic to milk and dairy products. He will not serve ice cream for dessert at State dinners, yet, he wore a milk pustache when he ran for President. So did Bob Dole. For BETRAYING others with milk allergies, CLINTON deserves to be impeached. For wearing the LIE on his upper lip while he has an allergy to pus with hormones (MILK) Clinton commits his greatest crime.

A President of the United States sets the standard of behavior for all Americans. He should admit to all that he is allergic to milk and apologize for his lie on national television.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Karen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: michigan
Time: 1998-12-12 00:16:35
Comments: Do you know what a nonhuman protein does in the stomach...it is digested, therefore is of harm to humans. Once digested can not be put back together in the body if the animal is not the same species. Hormones are proteins whether it is estrogen, progestrone or testostrone. Our digestive system breaks down those proteins for use in the body. I may not know everything about cows, mammals and milk but i do know that there is worst things out there than milk. My question to you is what happened in your life that started this antimilk message?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Karen,

There is one protein in MILK that is identical to a human protein. That is Insulin-like Growth Factor-I (IGF-I). If you believe that breastfeeding human mothers pass on anything to their infants such as lactoferins or immunoglobulins (most nursing mothers and pediatricians believe this to be true) then you must also accept the fact that milk is a hormonal delivery system and that there are mechanisms that insure the survival of such proteins. IGF-I is the most powerful growth hormone naturally produced in the human body and human IGF-I is identical to bovine IGF-I. IGF-I has been identified as the KEY FACTOR in the growth and proliferation of breast and prostate cancer.

I trust that you now have the answer to your final question.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Brett J. Blitzstein
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Smyrna, GA
Time: 1998-12-11 03:27:53
Comments: It's funny how some "vegetarians" will continue to drink "liquid-meat" in the form of milk. When I have children, the only way they would be fed cow's milk is if their first word was, "Moo." Keep up the great work!

Name: SkyBird
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Chicago
Time: 1998-12-10 05:48:12
Comments: It goes without saying: Cow milk is for calves. Great job on your site. Hopefully it will help wean some people off of this perverse "food".

Name: June Cleland
Website: MILK IS BAD-GOD IS GOOD!
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Sydney, Australia
Time: 1998-12-09 10:37:11
Comments: Everything you say about milk is true...people won't believe me though!!! MILK IS BAD BABY!!!! Calves yes - humans - NO!!

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1998-12-09 10:16:48
Comments: Eileen Vining, a pediatric neurologist at John Hopkins University and co-author of a study of the ketogenic diet that is used in treating epilepsy was on National Public Radio Monday Night the 7th of December.Dr. Vining says that the study documented the success of a high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet in reducing seizures in children who do not respond to anti-convulsant medications. The fats in this diet that Dr. Vining was talking about come from dairy products such as butter, cream and cheese. One would certainly think that Dr. Vining would be aware of all of the bad things that you allege are in milk but yet she has no problem subjecting her patients, most of whom are children to this diet of dairy products. I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say about this. Should you have any questions about the diet or Dr.Vining and her work you can probably reach her at John Hopkins. As always, Jim

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

Every day I read comments from mothers who have children receiving this therapy. I belong to a number of unmoderated internet lists including an epileptic, diabetic and allergy list. I receive over 1,000 EMAIL messages each day and spend too many hours on the internet, but by reading personal accounts I am provided a unique perspective that is often lost to those "not in the know."

The children you describe are not normal children. They are very sick children and their lives are threatened by each grand mal epileptic seizure. Something so drastic has been used as therapy to relieve their tortured symptoms. That something is animal fat and milk and dairy products are an excellent source of animal fat. You have no debate from me on that subject.

It is unfortunate that the tremendously high quantities of milk and dairy products result in other problems for these kids. Those problems include reflux and irritible bowel syndrom and various digestive disorders. Such trade-offs are tolerable, as they sometimes eliminate the seizures. However, the therapy you describe now includes the ingestion of PURE animal fat, in an easy to take capsule form.

I quite often see children who receive valium and prozac and my heart aches for those kids. I read of children who need life-saving surgery and it hurts me. These kids should be happy and should be eating healthy diets and going to school where they learn, with no distractions. There are too many children with Attention Deficit Disorder being treated with multitudes of drugs. That solution cumulatively adds up to a horrible twentieth century disease and an even worse solution.

The children with seizures do react to this diet, rich in animal fats. The solution to their problems is a drastic remedy, not recommended for the average child, Jim. One would not (I imagine) give Prozac to a child who misbehaves once in school and receives detention. Nor would any physician include a diet rich in animal fats to a healthy child.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michael Exarhos
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Cooper city, FL
Time: 1998-12-09 08:07:55
Comments: Dear Robert, how dare you challange the dairy farmers of America? I bet you thought this was going to be a negative response. On the contrary, if it was not for people like you we would still believe that the world was flat. I would like to receive your newsletter, and how does a person quit dairy products cold turkey? This web site is one of the most well put together that I have seen. I applaud you for having the courage to stand up for what you believe in. Michael Exarhos

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Michael,

I am an expert at doing the wrong thing dietarily, and admit that it took me until my 46th year to see all of the errors and insults that I committed to my body. Quitting milk and dairy products is not easy, believe me. Pizza and ice cream are the most wonderful foods on this planet. When I look at ice cream I am reminded that FDA allows 750 million pus cells in ever liter (1.05 quart) of milk sold in America. When I look at a slice of pizza I think of Flo Jo's last meal (PIZZA) and the brick-sized piece of undigested food still in her stomach, which sat there until her death, fourteen hours later. I see a piece of Swiss cheese and remember that eighty percent of the protein in cheese is CASEIN, the same exact glue used to hold together wood in furniture. I look at sour cream dip and remember that pasteurization does not work and that E. coli, salmonella and paratuberculosis could be souring that cream. I see somebody pour half and half into his/her coffee and wonder which half contains estrogen and which half contains adrenalin.

Visualize your milk and dairy products as pus-filled foods with hormones and glue and that will make abstaining from these toxins a bit easier for you!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Karen Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Michigan
Time: 1998-12-08 20:05:52
Comments: I don't know where you get your information but i think it is wrong. I am a dairy science major and a fourth generation dairy farmer, what you spew out of this web site is pure bullshit.Is this just anti- cattle milk or is this all mammalian milk as a whole? Who are you people to tell the public that milk is bad?? I can tell you that i am a healthy happy 23 year old who drinks milk and has drank it all my life. I have never broken a bone or had any probelms that are caused by milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Karen,

Should you carefully review my website you will find that I endorse milk for infants. Human breast milk is the perfect food for a baby human. Dog milk is for puppies and cat milk for kittens. Likewise, cow's milk is for calves. When calves grow up we do not feed them cat milk. When humans grow up we do not feed them dog's milk. Thank goodness adult cows drink their own milk when they grow up, otherwise they would not get enough calcium and their bones would break. Thank goodness we feed grown dairy cows milk so that the milk they produce will also be rich in calcium!

Don't they teach you about the bioactive homones in cow's milk in dairy college? Which dairy college is this...Tom Carvel's? If you think that I "spew bullshit," please be kind enough to respond (after consulting with your professors) and teach me which bovine hormones you would have my children take each day. Estrogen? Progesterone? Perhaps the Testosteron, prolactin, epinephrine or melatonin?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michael
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Florida
Time: 1998-12-08 19:20:22
Comments: Hi Notmilkman!, I love your site! I wish, wish, wish that I had found out this information years ago. When I was in high school I developed horrible acne that has left very visible scarring on my back and chest. I have been suffering from acne for years. After reading your site I've come to realize that milk products are, to a great degree, responsible for the suffering that I've gone through. What a shame. When I was school I started lifting weights. To gain weight I was advised to drink a gallon of milk a day. (Can you believe that?) Wow, I sure wish I could go back in time with what I know now. Thanks again, Mr Cohen. I sure appreciate the work you've been doing. I'm trying to spread the word around some of the newsgroups I visit about your site. Your friend, Michael

Name: insomniac
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Milwaukee, WI
Time: 1998-12-08 04:26:07
Comments: Heard you on ManCow today. Although ManCow is a true idiot, there are some interesting things to read here!

Name:
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Vancouver Washington
Time: 1998-12-08 01:10:47
Comments: I am a vegan and would like to help expose Monsanto and the FDA Congress connection. They are killing my friends one by one Please add me to your email mailings and i will distribute this too other activists. MONSANTO MUST BE STOPPED!!@!!!! with Solidarity BC

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Bruce,

You have it all wrong. Any company able to get their attorney on the SUPREME COURT (Justice Thomas) or clever enough to hire the ex-surgeon general, C. Everett Koop has got to be doing something right. A company with resources able to hire an ex FDA Commissioner (Arthur Hull Hayes) or have President Clinton mention them in his State of the Union Address (two years ago) is a company to lead us into the twenty-first century has to be a company that we admire for their ability to utilize resources.

Any company clever enough to donate money to four Congressmen while the cretins (Volkner, Dooley, Gunderson and Pombo) were voting on whether or not to label milk containing Monsanto's genetically engineered hormone, and get away with BRIBERY...now that is great marketing!

Monsanto has brought many gifts to the world. They developed Agent Orange and Dioxins and a commercial carpeting that made people ill. They made the controversial ROUNDUP pesticide and NutraSweet, a toxic sweetener that gave lab animals brain cancers.

If not for Monsanto, we might bankrupt our social security system and pension funds. America cannot allow its citizens to live to be 100. You're just not seeing the big picture, Bruce.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Wulfrost
Website: Mancow's Morning Madhouse
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Iowa
Time: 1998-12-08 00:37:22
Comments: I heard you today on Mancow's Morning Madhouse discussing your book. I'll have to order it and check it out. Nice website!

Name: Laurence Dang
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: France, US
Time: 1998-12-08 00:10:47
Comments: I come from France. Over there cows are treated with a bit more shall I say humanity and common sense. Meaning it is forbidden BY LAW to inject cows and other animals with growth hormones, and the like. The first milk I ever drank was farm milk freshly squeezed from a cow that was in good health, a pet of the family and so forth. In any case I am allergic to milk so even this type of milk did not go down too well with me. The first thing I noticed in the US is how teenage asians like myself grew up to be bald, big, and fat just like their Caucasian counterparts. They exhibited none of the typical characteristics of Asians. Then it dawned on me it could only be one thing: all the growth hormones and nasty junk present in the milk and meat in the US. Note that Asians in France look just like Europeans: for the most part they are thin and of smaller stature. Just think: what cows ingest you have to ingest as well. What makes them fat also makes you fat. You really are what you eat.

Name: Robbie Vandemark
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Iowa
Time: 1998-12-07 23:42:02
Comments: You are strange. What are you so scared of? Most things in the world pose some type of risk. And all the food that almost all people get form the store has some type of crap on it. I am talking about the Goverment. They put so much shit in our head. Maybe it is worng and maby not. But most kids like milk if that makes them happy and don't kill them (right away) Let them be happy. Tell me why is there alwas someone out there that wants make a diffrence. You might be diffrnet then all the other people. You might grow all you own food? And stay away from that city (smog). And the Woods (flowers). 90% Off all the cases of Asthma is cased by aligeric reacations. So stop being so stupid. Git a life and grow up. Why can't you gust say. Here I am this is me. WORLD this is me. Then gust live. You will be a much more happy person. Try it.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Robbie,

You asked why is there always someone out there who wants to make a difference? Good question, my friend. I cannot answer that one. For me, it's a curse. Here I am, world. This is me! :>)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lashun Robertson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Carlisle, IA
Time: 1998-12-07 21:06:37
Comments: I don't know if all this is true about milk. When you eat a nice cookie or something a glass of milk looks good. Now what would I drink? Anyway, I do agree that milk causes mucous. I drank two glasses of milk yesterday and I had wrestling practice this morning. I was in good shape until we did sprints at the end. It got a little harder to breathe and when practice was over I literally sat in the locker for 5-10 minuttes catching my breath and spitting up phlem. It wasn't like a sick phlem, like all green and stuff, but it was kinda clear/white and I was spitting up a LOT of it. It had to be milk! P.S. I heard about this website from MANCOW.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lashun,

Imagine wrestling and not having about a gallon of mucous in your body. Do not eat any milk, cheese or ice cream for about one week and you will see the difference. Without those growth hormones contained in milk it should be easier for you to make weight before each wrestling match! For those of you not in the know...MANCOW is a morning radio personality out of Chicago with a syndicated show heard in hundreds of American markets.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jill
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From:
Time: 1998-12-07 07:41:45
Comments: I am only fifteen, but I have been a vegetarian for five years. As a child, my mother did her best to provide me with juice instead of milk. I have never had a cavity or a broken bone. These feats are said to be aided by milk but have been accomplished without. Hmmmmmmmmmm.........

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jill,

I have three daughters, ages 13, 12 and 9. They do not drink milk either. Rumor has it that their bones and your bones will break and you will all collapse into a pile of protoplasm before your sixteenth birthdays!

The antidote to that is to drink pus with hormones from another speices of animal. How do you possess such wisdom at the age of 15, Jill while most others are so ignorant?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Samantha
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: AL
Time: 1998-12-06 21:57:43
Comments: Hi. All that you said about milk is just fine and dandy but not drinking milk is a major health risk for women. Osteoporosis is a painful and dangerous disease that is best prevented by drinking milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Samantha,

Women do need calcium, right you are! When a woman goes through menopause she begins to deplete one-percent of her bone density every year. She does this because she no longer has progesterone and estrogen.

Countries that eat the most dairy products have the highest rates of bone disease. These nations include Denmark, Norway, Holland and Sweden. Protein creates an acid condition in the bloodstream and in order to neutralize that acid the body leeches caclium out of the bones. Thus, drinking too much milk (eating too much protein--milk is liquid meat) creates a negative calcium balance.

Please read the column I wrote about calcium values in food and you will gain valuable insight into the process and insure better health for yourself.

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/092098.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dr. John Pinkney
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Madison, Wisconsin
Time: 1998-12-06 12:06:00
Comments: This website and others like it are the reason for groups against the internet. Milk plays an integral part in the diets of millions of Americans, and is an excellent addition to any diet. I regularly recommend milk to patients with low calcium and diseases related to it. Comparing milk companies to cigarette companies is disgusting and irrelevent. I feel you need to reevaluate your views before someone with more authority than I have does something about this URL.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dr. Pinkney,

I would have enjoyed talking about the ISSUES and giving you the SCIENCE behind my statements. Through education there is truth. No member of the dairy industry wishes to debate me and the reasons are obvious. One cannot defend mother's words: "Here, John. Drink this. It's good for you." Try to break years of brainwashing...thousands of milk pustache ads. It is not easy. Yes, Dr. Pinkney, I tried to find your number and call you. You can call me tomorrow at 201-871-5871.

There is just one PINKNEY listed in the phone book in the entire State of Wisconsin (city of Tomah) and that resident lives 100 miles from Madison. A man of his convictions might have left an EMAIL address in posting this comment. You did not.

To suggest that somebody "with authority" will come along to "do something" about my website and to do it in anomyity as you have done is just the reason why the INTERNET represents a forum immune to the pressures placed upon traditional media.

Your state and 12 others have passed laws (AGRICULTURAL DISPARAGEMENT ACTS) making it illegal to criticize an agricultural product. Only in AMERICA! Howard Lyman and Oprah were sued for remarks made against the meat industry. My book has been sold in Wis-cow-sin and I have been on many radio shows and television in your "Cheesehead" State.

I dare you to knock the proverbial carton of milk off of my shoulder. Perhaps a burning of my book, MILK-The Deadly Poison? Sue me? No way! Got milk? Got hormones! Got Glue!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Another Email-less "doctor". Nothing like "backbone", "honesty", "intregity"
and such... sadly missing these days!

If this fellow IS a doctor... pity, for he is of the same ignorant and bull-headed
mold that misinformed me all my life... and now I am paying (dearly) for my
misplaced trust.

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster and victim

Dave... there is J. Pinkney at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.
He is an ASTRONOMER, having published a paper entitled:
"HST Observations in the cooling flow optical in Abell 1975."
Some doctor, huh? His patients are not people...they're
HEAVENLY BODIES! Hahahahahah."

Robert "NOTMILKMAN" Cohen
You did better than I, Robert.
The only Pinkney I found for the entire state was:
Doris J Pinkney-Walters
Milwaukee, WI 53216

(found that at: http://in-100.infospace.com/info/index_ppl.htm)

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1998-12-05 23:46:15
Comments: Robert, "My "junk science" has been substantiated by dozens of the most well respected medical doctors in America and you will find news of the ANTIDAIRY Coalition in next month's issue of the largest medical newsletter in the world." Could you name the newsletter you refer to here so I can read it for myself? I can't seem to find it at the library. I looked for your book there too but didn't find it either. Should I be looking in the FICTION section at the library?

NOTMILKMAN RESPONDS:

Dear Jim,

You're not gonna find the newsletter or my book in the children's room! C'mon next door and explore a whole new world!

For non-fiction please read:

"You've Been Drinking Milk for Thousands of Years" by O.M. Donald

You will learn that Moses actually invented the electric refrigerator and pasteurization (originally called Mosesization) so that milk could be safely stored and consumed the next morning on fruit loops and for the following forty centuries without infecting people with E coli, salmonella, bovine leukemia virus and bovine tuberculosis. Yes, Jim, God promised the Israelites a land filled with milk and honey and K-Marts where they could buy refrigerators to store that milk and cream cheese for their bagels.

Then read: "Breastfeeding Does NOT Work" by Sy N. Tist

You will learn that lactoferins, immunoglobulins and hormones in breast milk and in cows milk cannot possibly work because they are destroyed in the stomach. This best seller was a real surprise to nursing moms and pediatricians!

One more book to recommend:

"The Art of Hanging Wallpaper and Building Furniture" by L.C. Kow

You will learn that eighty percent of milk and cheese protein is CASEIN, a most tenacious glue and poweful mucous-causing allergin. Take a fun-filled descriptive tour through the lungs and intestines as you read about the mucous caused by milk and dairy products.

The NEWSLETTER that you never heard of is Julian Whitaker's HEALTH & HEALING read by 532,000 people every month. It is the largest read health newsletter in the world. Why not read Dr. Whitakers column:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/100498.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

Gee, Robert... for someone who prides himself on being able to root
out the "facts"... it seems that the many ROADSIGNS all over NOTMILK
and the ADC sites were not adequate to get this visitor to the right stuff!

Suggestions???

Dave Rietz.... WEBmaster and victim!
Well, Dave... maybe we can ask him and all milk lovers to begin their road to truth by reading Dr. Kradjian's LETTER to his patients.

Robert "NOTMILKMAN" Cohen

Name: O. E.
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Southbay
Time: 1998-12-05 13:19:59
Comments: It's a shame that many things we've been told all our lives are simply misinformation that cause us pain and suffering. I remember the taste of milk,cheese, and butter. It was nice while it lasted, but then the allergy's became much to obvious; swollen lymph glands, and constant colds at least once a week. My sweetheart had a scary little temper, and it was all I could do to keep us together. Until we discovered his extreme reaction to dairy products. The natural tryptophan in meats and dairy would turn him into the hulk until we both got smart to this problem. Perhaps, that's the problem with many relationships, chemical imbalances. Good luck to all in the search.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Each sip of milk contains 59 different bioactive hormones. We know that TESTOSTERONE is a hormone responsible for aggressive male behaviors and we also know that ADRENALIN (epinephrine) is responsible for the "fight or flight" response. Both hormones are contained in milk and cheese and ice cream.

In May of 1995 the TOWNSEND MEDICAL LETTER (a doctor's newsletter written by doctors for doctors) listed eleven symptoms from milk consumption. Three of those symptoms were: mood swings, depression and irritability.

Something as SIMPLE as what you eat could be affecting violent tempers. Thanks for sharing your story... and cure.---NOTMILK!!!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Reference checker
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-12-04 00:18:54
Comments: I like your "336" references. But, for some reason, I could find anything by Ibid. Am I missing something or do your references boil down to something a little less than "336?"

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Reference checker,

You have "exposed" me for the fraud that I am. IBID (abbreviation for the Latin "IBIDIUM" which means in the same place) is a common term appearing in references.

I have boasted that I have more than 330 references in my book. Perhaps there are only 329 actual sources. Now that the truth is out do you imagine milk is safe to drink again?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Connie Cochran
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Tennessee
Time: 1998-12-03 05:26:05
Comments: I just finished looking at your site. I'm in the process of changing my family's diet to mostly vegetarian. I was wondering how you felt about milk being a once in a while treat, like some people do with alcohol. Just a little indulgence every now and then, for the sake of taste. Just wondering, while I make up my mind for myself.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Connie,

The American Dietetic Association (ADA) philosophy is "everything in moderation." I do not share that philosophy. I do not believe that the histamines and resulting mucous from milk proteins do the body any good. I also do not believe that drinking 59 different bioactive hormones is a wise thing to do to your body, even as an occasional treat.

I will admit that the fatty creamy taste from milk and cheese and butter can be treats! However, the cumulative effect on your cardiovascular system become financial treats for those physicians who will one day benefit from such TREATment. Today the average American will eat 161 mg of cholesterol in his/her dairy intake. That is equal to the same cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon. That's 19,345 slices this year and the equivalent of one-million slices of bacon's worth of cholesterol in 52 years.

Those "occasional treats" of ice cream and "pizza" do add up!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Emily
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: United Kingdom
Time: 1998-12-02 19:56:56
Comments: I like your new printable flyer, but how about making one for non-Americans?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Emily,

That's a wonderful idea!

Any volunteer translators out there?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince george, B.C.
Time: 1998-12-02 00:10:17
Comments: In the PROVINCE NEWSPAPER OF Vancouver B.C. Nov. 30 1998 there appeared a column by Dr. Mitchell Hecht. > The column is in answer to a question by a woman concerning microcalcifications and breast cancer. > In one paragraph Dr. Hecht writes: We're not sure why they (microcalcifications) occur but we do know that they have nothing to do with calcium in food or calcium supplements. > In another paragraph: Why worry about microcalcifications? Well, what we've learned is that some microcalcifications, particularly those in clusters may be the earliest mammographic sign of cancer of the breast milk duct known as intraductal carcinoma. > > Why couldn't these calcium deposits be caused by high calcium intake in the diet? He gives no answer to that, but let's consider one substance we use that has the properties to both form microcalcifications and stimulate cancer cell proliferation...COW MILK!!! Cow milk is high in calcium that is largely unabsorpable to the bone structure and the only known external source of IGF-1, the hormone that makes cancer grow and is identical to human IGF-1.

Name: Laura
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ohio
Time: 1998-12-01 02:36:20
Comments: Okay so you say that milk (technically) is bad for you. Wellif you say that, then everything you eat is bad for you. In that case then babies shouldn't nurse off their mothers...GO FIGURE!!!!!Plus what do you think us Dairy Farmers think of this????Have you EVER been on a Dairy Farm????????Do you realized that farmers are the one's keeping you alivewith food? WE are the ones saving your pittiful asses!No matter what, chemicals, viruses, or anything else can be caught or picked up by walking around in your house,the clothes you wear, the air you breathe, or even other foodyou eat.And we get little or no return for our efforts and we spendalmost all our lives trying to raise and love these animals foryour benifits!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Laura,

Perhaps what you and I have here is a failure to communicate. Just for the record, I believe that breastfeeding her infant is a natural and healthy act for a mother. I do not expect a baby human to drink dog's milk or skunk milk's or cow's milk. Human milk is for babies and dog's milk is for puppies and cow's milk is for baby cows. I trust you can see the wisdom in that.

As far as other foods go...All foods are safe to eat. Carrots and steak, broccoli and chicken. They are all safe. I happen to not have the desire to eat anything with a face, but that's my hang-up. I happen to enjoy having thirty second bowel movements and being VERY regular, but that's my own personal preference...I don't get to read as much in the bathroom as I once did...and my digestion takes less than an hour and not eight hours like it once did when I ate hard-to-digest animal body parts. Call me silly...I know, but I enjoy needing just five hours of sleep each night instead of the eight that I once needed. Yes, Laura, you can eat anything you want.

I heard Professor Richard Schwartz speak this past weekend. He quoted Genesis. 1:29:

and God said: "Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed which is upon the face of the earth, and in every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed-to you it shall be for food."

There are forty vegetables and forty fruits and twenty grains and twenty beans. Does eating such variety sound boring to you? Try and picture the face of the next animal you eat and the pain that she experienced in her flesh and soul as she felt the executioner's sting.

In answer to your question, "Have I ever been on a farm?" Yes...I have been on many farms. A few weeks ago I broke bread with three generations of dairy farmers on one of the largest dairy farms in Florida. Many dairymen do not like me but I understand their values, stuggles, problems and products. Dairymen once believed that they were producing 'NATURE'S PERFECT FOOD.' They are...for baby cows.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Melissa Tindall
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Kentucky
Time: 1998-11-30 23:33:34
Comments: I purchased Marilu Henner's book a couple of months ago and I decided to try to find a website that was anti-dairy to read more about the dangers of dairy. Thank you Mr. Cohen for opening my eyes. I was sort of tugged both ways though last week after reading an article about milk in the Louisville Courier Journal (the story was taken from a paper in Rhode Island), which said in so many words that if you don't drink milk, the calcium is "sucked right out of your teeth and bones". Did anyone else read this? I figured if you took a calcium supplement, you would replace the calcium you lost when you didn't drink milk.Anyway, I cut all 2% milk out of my diet and I am now down to 1 glass of skim a day (Rice Dream just doesn't cut it). I have totally taken cheese out of my diet as well!Melissa

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Melissa,

Skim milk does have its uses. If you evaporate the water (eighty-seven percent of skim milk is water) you will be left with a powder containing hormones and glue! You can use that paste to hang wallpaper! You can also mix some skim milk with vanilla ice cream and sour cream to make milk pustache cream and be beautiful like Spike Lee and Larry King!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Christian Y.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Long Island, NY
Time: 1998-11-30 09:12:12
Comments: One day I was looking up some music websites when I came across Glen e. Friedman's(a photographer) website, F*uck You All. He had written a letter to Tony Hawk, a professional skateboarder, explaining the dngers of milk since Tony Hawk had appeared in a Milk moustache advertisement. I was shocked by some of the facts. From there I was referred to your website and I was even more shocked. That was earlier today and I am already starting to doubt my dependency on milk. I never realized how much I drink milk without realizing it. I always knew that milk was high in fat but I thought milk was a good source of calcium at least. I was wrong. Thanks for opening my eyes eith the facts, instead of government propagandha. I'm gonna try and cut alot of milk out of my diet and hopefully eventually eliminate all dairy products. Thank you for opening my eyes.

Name: Dave
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kincardine,Ontario
Time: 1998-11-30 01:17:55
Comments: Since hearing you on a radio talk show, I've stopped drinking milk and eating cheese (3 weeks) I had always been a major dairy consumer. When I left home in 1979, My Mom save $15 a week from the milkman! The most significant changed that I have noticed is that my face is much less oily. As an adolescent, I had terrible acne and subsequencely as an adult very oily , black headedly skin. BUT SINCE quit drinking milk and eating cheese my skin has never looked so good! Now if I can see the positive results on the outside of my body, just imagine the improvements that are taking place inside! Thanks for being a non-conformist and for challenging that "old established belief" that milk is mother nature's drink . Regards Dave.

Name: Jack Nickelson
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Philadelphia PA
Time: 1998-11-29 21:54:54
Comments: A tear came to my eye when i read through your wonderful website. Thank you Mister Cohen. Please, bring down the evil dairy empire! May every quart of milk rot on the grocer's shelf! I suffered from horrible headaches for years, life was miserable. I went through bottles upon bottles of pain-killers, sedatives, & tranquilizers. It wasn't until I went to an allergist who diagnosed milk as the culprit. What a cunning enemy we have in the form of ice cream, pizza and cheese ; not to mention the marvelously healthy yogurt (as we were brainwashed to believe). Truly a wolf's in sheep's clothing (or should I say cow's). Please keep on your fight, the sons of liberty are smiling down upon you. Jack

Name: Betsy Gaquin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Boston, MAssachusetts
Time: 1998-11-28 23:18:36
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, > Thank you for all your work and for finally telling the truth to the > public. My son is severly allergic to casein ( he would go into shock > and vomit etc. etc.) if he even so much as licked an ice cream cone. > Doctors thought I was crazy, friends thought I was crazy until finally > in a test (at a very reputable Boston hospital) he was given 1/4 ounce > of cows milk. They did not believe me that he reacted so violently to > cows milk, and, at the time, I did not have the confidence in myself and > what I knew to be true to challenge a doctor. This will never happen > again. I almost lost my son because of the arrogance of the medical > profession and because I did not have enough faith in my own knowledge > to tell them they were wrong. Thank God he survived and they quickly > stated that he had a very rare "true" allergy to milk protien. I don't > think it is so "rare", I just think that my sons reaction was so strong > that they could not ignore it or blame it on something else. Let me also > say that I have tried many times to get copies of his medical records > for this test and they have been destroyed. Little wonder. This was 12 > years ago, and since then I have taken care of his nutrition on my own. > In the process I have learned quite a bit about milk and have been > stunned by the hoax perpetrated by the dairy industry. It seems pretty > obvious to me that the rise in certain health issues (i.e. breast > cancer, osteoporosis) and the rise in dairy consumption simultaneously > ought to raise some eyebrows, but the dairy industry is very good at > propaganda. > In closing, thank you again. It has been a very lonely road for me, with > most people thinking that I am just over reacting to my sons problem by > saying that milk is not good for EVERYONE. When people comment that my > 16 year old daughters complextion is flawless I simply state "she has > very little dairy". They roll their eyes and think "she's at it again", > but it's the truth . > I have joined the Anti-milk coalition and will continue to try to spread > the word. > God bless you sir for your efforts. > Sincerely, > Betsy Gaquin

Name: Jon
Website: ~Welcome to Jon's Page~
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Connecticut
Time: 1998-11-28 22:23:52
Comments: After developing a condition called "Candida" (which is basically caused by the body being backed up with bacteria not routinely flushed out) I was taken off of dairy products by a nutritionalist and homeopathic doctor. In talking to him, I mentioned that whenever I drank a big glass of milk, I would get achy all over my body particularly in my joints and hands. He told me that bacteria and yeast in the body thrive in the presence of milk. I was horrified when I realized I'd HAVE TO knock milk and some cheese out of my diet.Well, after 7 months I feel a lot better and now only sneak a few glasses a week rather than a BIG glass everyday. The Dairy industry is HUGE and with money you can sell almost anything to a population largely dependant on "what the authorities say" or what other people think or some University found. Just because the milk industry has a cute public relations ad and has signed on many celebrities doesn't necessarily make what they say ~TRUE~. My point here I guess is "what's true for you is true" and if you do a test cutting milk out of your diet for a few weeks and you find yourself feeling better, more alert, less groggy, more energetic and can think clearer then ~that~ will be your own personal proof arrived at ~by and for yourself~ rather than by people who simply robotically rattle off "Got milk?" Jon

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1998-11-28 21:03:02
Comments: Good Morning Robert, I just found this message posted on your WebPage=====>The Robert Cohen Anti-Dairy Coalition Schedule Ooops... Robert Cohen expresses his apologies that his schedule will no longer be posted. Those who favor milk and dairy as a "safe" and "nutritious" substance for human consumption have accessed this schedule on a regular basis with the ultimate intent of disrupting his plans.. Now, what am I am to think here? I thought you were "an in your face kind of guy" and would debate anyone anywhere on these issues? That was the challenge you made wasn't it? Now Robert, I'm not going ot call you "chicken" but......... Anyhow, next issue.In reading your Bio(yes, I did take a minute to read some of your webpage)I couldn't help but notice the 24 year gap in your career.After you left school what did you do? Please tell!Twenty four years is a very long time to just sit around and read and do research, don't you agree? As always, Jim

NOTMILKMAN RESPONDS:

Dear Jim,

The dairy industry magazine, HOARD'S DAIRYMAN recently wrote that 40 people are employed full time in the dairy industry media division to counter what I and others are saying about milk and dairy products. Many of my interviews have been cancelled due to pressure exerted by an industry spending hundreds of millions of dollars advertising milk pustaches. The entire purpose of television is to fill time in between commercials. Television and radio are both driven by advertising revenue. I simply make it easy for my adversary to cancel shows by announcing which ones I will be on. I will not make that mistake again.

During the twenty five years before learning these truths about milk and dairy products I simply had no clue. I was an over-indulging YUPPIE who ate like a piggy and lived a very unhealthy lifestyle. I was in the restaurant business and then became a real estate developer. Four years ago I read an article in a health newsletter and that generated my interest in milk. I opened up an enormous Pandora's box, thanks to Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. Monsanto taught me that "WHOLESOME" milk naturally contains powerful growth hormones. Milk from cows treated with the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone contains increased levels of those same natural hormones.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Loser
Website: I LOVE MILK
Referred by: Xoom
From: your mama's ass
Time: 1998-11-28 10:44:42
Comments: I LOVE MILK... THIS IS A BUNCH OF BULLSH*T!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Milk Lover,

I admire people with convictions! It takes real courage to make a statement such as yours, revealing your real name and where you are from. Not only that, by giving us a good list of reasons why milk from cow's is good for humans you bring logic, reason and balance to this guestbook.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN

How fitting that this is visitor number 666. Right on the
mark! :-)

Nice that he/she/it knows from whence it came... too!

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster


Name: The Not Milk Woman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: WI
Time: 1998-11-28 03:57:49
Comments: Interesting updates to your web site! Looks great! Keep on telling the truth! Btw, for those of your readers who have doubts: when I was still consuming dairy I wasn't able to have kids. Now after the first was born and we are on our second pregnancy, we just received word we are having TWINS! Dairy free and fertile again! Wouldn't the world love to know about this news for those who are dairy protein sensitive: dairy products cause infertility...as what was happening in my case.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Congratulations on the twins!!

Much of the credit for this website and the antidairycoalition.com site belong to Dave Rietz, my dedicated and hard working webmaster whose passion it is to bring truth to people. Dave has his own internet site: DORWAY, and I urge all of my readers to read the story of a food additive that is responsible for great pain and human suffering. Knowledge of this problem saved Dave's life and is the reason he is so dedicated to helping others take back their health.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dr. Frans Verhagen
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New York City
Time: 1998-11-28 00:54:42
Comments: I finished reading the book yesterday.Good information, but there could be a lot more.I would have liked to see a section on the Ethics of Eating including the environmental impacts of our plate, including the glasses of milk and other dairy products.I am developing an educational unit entitled "Is Milk a Poision" where I include both the above dimensions? I think that you ought to remove the visual of kids in school cafeterias pouring their milk over the table: this will be counterproductive for those of us who are working with EarthSave School Lunch Program to change the high fat, low fiber content of those school lunches.Dr. Verhagen, environmental sociologist, Regens Earth Science Teacher, Halsey JHS 157 Q, developer of the Earth Community School (ECS) Model of Secondary Education, Executive Director, International Society of Earth and Peace Educators (EPE).

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dr. Verhagen,

As an employee of the New York school system I would not expect you to promote "urban terrorism" within the schools. That is just what I am doing and will continue to do. Milk and dairy products are not easily tolerated by people with color and New York schools feed free breakfast and lunch to children who are, by no fault of their own, below the poverty line defined by the federal government.

I am mad as hell about this and am ready to take this issue to the children who are so affected. I have free t-shirts promoting the UNIVERSAL REJECTION of milk for children to wear. One thousand dozen have already been ordered and will be distributed in early 1999. Furthermore, posters and bumber stickers depicting a child with a can of white spray paint, painting mustached graffiti will be one way of helping to spread the NOTMILK message.

This is about saving lives and helping children of all color to get the proper education that they deserve. Cheese and milk create stomach aches and asthma. The presense of 59 different hormones create a vast array of behavioral problems. Remember the BOSTON TEA PARTY? This will be the NEW YORK MILK PARTY!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: R. Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1998-11-27 11:35:27
Comments: The cartoon of the kids is great! Every little kid in North America should "dump the moo goo!"

Name: Kenneth Keith Kallenbach
Website: Kenneth Keith Kallenbach Website
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Philadelphia
Time: 1998-11-27 01:40:44
Comments: I agree. And Please visit my website http://www.KennethKeith.com Thanks Kenneth Keith Kallenbach

Name: Jon
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Erie PA
Time: 1998-11-26 20:48:08
Comments: Oh Boy! Kids are "happy" drinking milk. Whoopty-doo. Kids are happy doing a lot of things they shouldn't do. Why? They are ignorant of the facts. They can be excused - they don't know better. Adults can either be informed and open to facts as they present themselves, or they can reject the facts and remain ignorant. Milk may be the "perfect food" for cows, but why in the world would that translate to people? Should we all start drinking breast milk? If there were a "perfect food" for people I would think that would be it. My daughter isn't "happy" drinking milk - she gets diarraeha every time she looks at the stuff.

Name: Cuong
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1998-11-25 22:32:14
Comments: Your site looks great! I just wanted to share my experience with milk. I couldn't stand the taste of it for many years. Then in order to gain more muscle, I decided to drink up to 4 glasses of milk everyday. Then I noticed that I started to break out really badly. One of my friends then told me that milk was causing it. I investigated and it eventually led me to your web site. Well, keep up the good work.

Name: meg
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: pa
Time: 1998-11-25 20:03:00
Comments: well well well. I see that you are trying to focus on kids now. that was rediculous to show a picture of a child dumping the milk on the table. what kind of ideas are you sending? i just got done talking to two kindergarten classes in my neighboring town and they seem to love milk. i am ever so happy for them. i told them about the real seal and of course they said that they went home and asked their mommies for a big tall glass of milk. GOOD FOR THEM!!! they know what good is compared to bad. i can tell that you do not! well thank you for depicting an image for all kids to go out and dump their milk on the cafeteria tables. that will really make them happy. they should not be dumping their milk any where accept down their little throats to help build their bones.

Name: mark julian
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: stamford,connecticut
Time: 1998-11-25 08:54:54
Comments: Thanks for your outstanding work, Mr.Cohen. You have helped to clarify for many the real problems associated with dairy. Once again the truth exposes a revered tradition to having been fraudulently represented all along.

Name: ASTEP
Website: why do you spend time on pointless drivel?
Referred by: From a Friend
From: the home town of the best dang alternate state dairy princess there is.
Time: 1998-11-24 08:17:43
Comments: hmmm... Let's see are you acturally going to post this message? I would like the world to know i think this site is rigged! I am writing a nice message voicing my opinion, but will it be posted? NO! Listen buddy I don't like red soda. And i'm sure that if i looked hard enough, I could find a million reasons why you shouldn't drink it. But i'm not out there spending a million hours designing a wonderful webpage and generally just annoying people with my presence. I think you need to get out and enjoy life while you still can, and before your bones crumble into absolute nothingness.Incredibly loathsome, ASTEP

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Wow! You really did write a nice message! :>) Have a Joyous Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Wonderful Kwanza and healthy dairy-free new year, whoever you might be.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Joshua Lathrop
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Cobleskill New York
Time: 1998-11-22 03:04:07
Comments: It makes my head spin thinking that an ignorant self motivated b#*&$tard like yourself has access to any form of media. I hope that you garner enough interest through scaring people to sell millions of copies of your trash book. Maybe you will choke to death on the money. One other thing the world according to vegatarians is absolutely hilarious! None of you tree huggers realize that the earth is not capable of producing enough vegetable crops to feed the human population. I for one hope your the first son of a B#$*&ch to starve to death. Impress me with your intestinal fortitude by actually posting this message, or even more by responding.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Joshua,

Each pound of beef produced requires forty pounds of grain and 1,000 gallons of water. I am not about to post a treatise on vegetarianism vs. meat eating but I would like to refer you to Lappe's classic book: DIET FOR A SMALL PLANET.

While you're reading her book...go outside and even though the process might be against your basic instincts...hug a tree! See how good it feels. Appreciate the gifts brought to us by nature. Taste the fruits and nuts which fall from those trees and give thanks for the bountiful harvest that we enjoy.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nancy Lovett
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Odessa, TX
Time: 1998-11-21 21:49:16
Comments: I found you after listening to a PBS program where the message was read about MILK, the four-letter word. At first I thought it was a comedy act, but then realized the reality of what I was hearing. I haven't been able to drink milk since I was an infant. While I probably am allergic, I have truly hated the taste as well as having a terrible taste remaining in my mouth after drinking. I would like to hear and read more about Notmilk and plan to review your page often.

Name: Christina Urso
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: USA
Time: 1998-11-21 09:28:10
Comments: I've been a vegatarian for almost 20 years. If the world would be perfect, and no animal cruelty existed and no hormones and antibiotics were used I'd probably continue to be a lacto vegetarian. But because it really makes me feel disgusted when I think of what the milk and meat industry is doing I don't want to support them anylonger. To stay off meat, fish, fowel and egg is something I do without problems, but when it comes to milkproducts I'm having a hard time. For me cooking and eating too, is just one of those things you have to do... If my body would let me I'd probably go without food for a week. I forget to eat, because I have other things to do... So if there is anybody else out there lazy like myself when it comes to cooking (and eating) or who is just plain smart and can give me a good piece of advice for how I can become a vegan but not having to give so much time to it, i humbly ask you to please speak up. Thank You! -Christina

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Christina,

Thanksgiving gives one an opportunity to "EXPERIMENT" with new veggies and grains. Most people do not cook with barley or millet or acorn squash. Turnips and parsips are incredible additions to any meal. Mince, dice, slice, julienne...sautee veggies in olive and walnut oils with parsley and shallots and two types of garlic. Cook grains separately and mix them together. I recommend a barley/whole wheat berry and shitake mushroom salad...served hot or cold. Add a naturally fermented shoyu (soy sauce) or some fermented black bean paste. Ethnic grocery stores yield gourmet delights. Go to an Indian grocery and buy a glass jar of Biranyi and Tandori paste and add a teaspoonful to sauteeing veggies. Cauilflower is like tofu in that it picks up the flavors of whatever sauce you use. Add chick peas to everything. Experiment! Find the joy of different tastes and textures. A meat diet is boring, compared to the abundance and variety of vegetables, grains and beans.

Happy Thanksgiving,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Norman Ernsting
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Children,'s Museum of the Native Amerian
Time: 1998-11-20 21:06:02
Comments: Read your book, Milk, the Deadly Poison, with much interest. Congradulations on your research and crusade against the dairy industry. I"ve been a vegan for past five years and try to spread the word to children and parents who visit the Children's Museum here in NYC. We sell nutrician books at cost and give away brouchures on vegitarian and vegan diets. Looking for an updated brouchure on the dangers of dairy products which we can give to parents who accompany school classes to the Museum. Would you consider putting together someting that would be appropriate for parents of yourng children.? Left a call at your office today. Maybe we can talk soon.

Name: Ken
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Vancouver, B.C. Canada
Time: 1998-11-20 09:36:37
Comments: Bravo! What a great site! I've been a vegan for 5 years, but I still enjoy seeing what others are doing to keep up the fight against the Dairy Cult. Lots of useful information! Kudos!

Name: kara
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: PA
Time: 1998-11-20 02:07:31
Comments: YOU B#*&%RD! I HAVE SENT YOU MANY MESSAGES WAITING FOR A RESPONSE BUT YOU WON'T EVEN POST THEM!!!!! YOU LOSER!!!!!!!!! YOU S*#K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MILK IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE A LOT MORE RESPECT FOR COWS THEN YOU!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW YOU ARE READING THIS AND UNTIL YOU PUT MY MESSAGE ON THE BOARD I WILL FLOOD YOUR SYSTEM WITH SO MANY LETTERS FROM SO MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO MOVE TO ANOTHER WEB SITE!!!!!!!!!! I WANT A RESPONSE TO ALL MY MESSAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COOPERATION

Name: C.U.N.B.D.
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Sedona, Arizona, USA
Time: 1998-11-18 04:49:40
Comments: After skimming through your web site, it appears that cow milk, no matter how it is processed (or if it is processed), contains a multitude of hormones, that apparently the cow produces naturally in the milk. What are the affects of these hormones on the human body? Have tests been done? Some of the hormones are familiar, like testosterone -- why aren't we seeing massive health effects in people? Shouldn't we be seeing bigger problems considering the multitude in which these hormones allegedly exist in cow milk?

Cows milk is cows milk... samo-samo all modes. With BGH you just get more milk
on a subsidized and glutted market (why are prices so high and rising???) with more
IGF-1, more blood and pus (because of more mastitis from overworking the critter)!

Umm.. more kids with medical problems such as asthma, diabetes and more; heart disease
as the leading contributor to an early death, cancers and osteoporosis on the rise
SHOULD fit your "Shouldn't we be seeing bigger problems" statement. Why do you suppose
our medical facilities are strained to the max with outlandishly rising prices? Too many
folks need too much attention for their increasing health problems (and 40% of them are
OBESE with more joining them every day!)

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster


Name: J. Tribble
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Arizona
Time: 1998-11-18 04:23:14
Comments: Why do you make no mention of "organic" milk that does not contain hormones because those cows are not induced with hormones?

Milk is milk is milk is milk... regardless or the mammal the produces it!

More milk from rBGH treated cows only means MORE IGF-1, blood, pus and
similar from bovine systems strained beyond their natural capacities!

Order the surpressed FOX-TV tape (four segments for $15 which includes
shipping) from: (it is now exhibit "k" in a public lawsuit)

Jean Thompson, Editor
Green Acre News
4222 Harmony Lane SE
Iowa City, IA 52240-9385 USA

For faster service call: 1-319-337-7722
or Email JTGardens@aol.com

After viewing this tape you will have a MUCH better understanding
of the situation... both from a consumer AND an "awakened" dairy
farmer's viewpoint (burning out the cows before their time!).

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster


Name: Julie Olson
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Minneapolis, MN
Time: 1998-11-17 02:13:23
Comments: Hello, The information i came upon in visiting this website has troubled me. I eat dairy products everyday. i am an ice cream fanatic. Julie

Hello Julie,

Both Mr. Cohen and myself once consumed great amounts of milk,
cheese, and other dairy products. After significant research
Mr. Cohen eliminated this unhealthy substance from his diet several
years ago. When I read his manuscript last year I joined him in
removing milk and dairy from my diet... and ice cream HAS been the
most difficult item to give up.

What you deride as "facts" are facts, not industry hype, inventions,
half truths, misrepresentations or public relations fantasies.

Please read the book (or listen to the new tapes) before you return
so that you will have a much better understanding of the massive problems
caused by milk and dairy being almost 40% of the average American diet
... and WHY!

Dave Rietz... WEBmaster


Name: Liz
Website:
Referred by: Geocities
From:
Time: 1998-11-13 07:24:17
Comments: this webpage has been a great help to me... i have been suffering from a lot of asthma attacks lately and the information here leads me to believe that milk products have contributed to this problem. Anyway, i have a story to tell about one of the indirect victims of the meat and dairy industries gross overuse of antibiotics. I work in a nursing home and one of my favorite residents is a sweet little old lady who doesn't talk much and often does not recieve the care she needs and deserves because she has wounds infected with MRSA ( a bacterium that is resistant to all antibiotics), which many of my co-workers are afraid of getting. We can thank the meat and dairy industries for creating that little mess. There are probably thousands of cases like this in nursing homes and hospitals across the country. How many people do not recieve the care they need because they carry these bacteria? How many will die because of this? How many have to get sick and die before humankind wakes up and acts rationally?

Name: Brian D. Lynch
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1998-11-12 23:05:48
Comments: Dear Robert, I assume that the breakdown and profiles on milk are preliminary to the use of BGH or other genetically engineered interventions? Is this a correct assumption, or do these reports account for such practices already? Thanks for your services and information. B.D.L.

Name: Dian Hardy
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: Northern California, western Sonoma county
Time: 1998-11-11 06:46:18
Comments: Your started my dinner juices going with your beautiful menu in the guestbook back at the animal rights site. I stopped dairy some years ago, thank goodness. I took care of a beautiful Jersey cow for quite some time; she'd been destined for slaughter. My best to you in your work! I'll bookmark your site and visit often. If you have any e-mail list or whatever, please let me know. Dian

Name: meg
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: pa
Time: 1998-11-10 23:50:17
Comments: i do not appreciate what R. hamilton wrote he has no idea what goes on at the state level. no we do not have swimsuit competitions. we are judged on our knowledge of the dairy industry. of course looks come in handy, but that isn't how we won. when the milk man says pus that makes it sound so much worse than it actually is. pus is actually mastitus. this is something natural is a cow that helps prevent infection. so it is not as bad as you may think. and like i said before pus is not the actual term. so mr r hamilton you have no right at all saying any of that stuff. do you even know what you are talking about??? i doubt it!!! so get off of your high horse and research the dairy industry you will find so many more interesting,educational facts about the industry. you will learn how good milk is for you. hey i should start my own web page! meg

Name: No thanks
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-11-10 00:06:55
Comments: This is so unfunny it hurts. I hear you delete messages that are agaisnt u and that you hassle ppl that leave thier true email addies. Grow up..

You came HERE for humor???

Well.. Mr. (Ms?) "Idon't caretobehassled"...
If you bothered to read the facts... the WHOLE
bit... you might discover the phrase at the top
of this page that says:

*** Bad language or invalid Email
address are causes for deletion! ***


The NOTMILK information is not meant to be intertaining. Rather,
it is to inform clueless consumers to the fact that COWS milk IS a
perfect food... for a calf, **UNTIL** the mother WEANS the tyke (after
it has doubled its weight a couple of times and can forage for
food on its own). That, is the way mother nature PLANNED it! If
you think otherwise... I can only ask why YOU ever quite nursing
your mother!


Human breast milk is the "perfect food" for human babies!

This is Mr. Cohen's Guestbook. As such, he is no different then
an editor who determines what gets printed and what does not. He
has the same freedom to shorten or trash a response.

All too often a response to someone who cannot be bothered with the
facts... is considered by folks like you to be "a hassle".

Since you are nameless and therefore "unaccountable",
this message will "self-distruct" in a couple of days as the
"message" has been posted many times before.

WEBmaster


Name: Simone Phillips
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wellington, New Zealand
Time: 1998-11-09 14:34:01
Comments: Hey!!! Milk sucks, it's gross it's really weird for humans to drink another species milk. I love this site.

Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1998-11-07 08:23:49
Comments: The more Meg writes to your guestbook the more I want to start a dairy herd of my own consisting of dairy princesses.(and alternate princesses). I could improve the strain by crossbreeding only the best producers.In a few generations I'm sure I could have a distinct breed of women with breasts to their ankles that could be milked 4 -5 times per day. Got MILK Your Highness?

Dear Ron,

That is a bit unfair of you, but a brilliant commentary on something we take for granted. Dairy Princesses are chosen for their beauty and good looks. I wonder if there is a swimsuit competition in the selection process for Pennsylvania's Dairy Princess---Meg, help me on that. One can only use his imagination to picture what a human would look like if she too was pumped full of hormones and "milked" as often as a dairy cow is milked. That might be an udderly ridiculous photo.

One hundred years ago a dairy cow only yielded one quart of milk per day. Today some cows can deliver up to forty quarts. Such animals develop blistering udders which add pus and blood to their milk. Their entire systems are stressed. Imagine humans producing similar amounts of milk and suffering fates similar to cows? That would be bizarre. Thanks for providing your keen insight and wit, Ron.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lisa Schwarz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada, originally
Time: 1998-11-06 23:54:23
Comments: Very enlightening. I'm gonna buy that book about milk.

Name: meg
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: pa
Time: 1998-11-06 21:51:41
Comments: you have no right at all saying that milk caused flo jo's death. it was her decision to pose for the MILK MUSTACHE picture. i am highly offended that you would ever write such a thing. you are the devil. i have tried to be reaonable with you but has got to be the it. you are stating things that you have no idea are true. everybody believes you because things that you write look and sound so professional.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Meg,

I will obtain an autopsy report and reveal the TRUTH soon. Please judge me and dairy products fairly by what the autopsy reveals. I repeat my claim that cheese was FLO-JO'S last meal. I repeat my claim that she was taking a histamine, Benadryl, because she had mucous. If I am correct the autopsy will present overwhelming evidence of CONGESTION in the lungs and other vital internal organs.

There is the work of the devil at play here and it belongs to an industry who would betray us all. If I am correct, it is the Dairy Industry who betrayed FLO-JO and in doing so, betrayed others who were brainwashed into believing her message. Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Abraham Lincoln
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Franklin Co. PA
Time: 1998-11-06 20:10:53
Comments: Dear Robert- I asked my mother (the pediatrician) if she recommends whole milk for infants under 1. she said that it is not recommended because cow milk is lacking in iron which babies need. she recommends that mothers brest feed or use formula for the first year. Sincerely yours, Abe

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Abe,

Why would your mom, the pediatrician recommend that mothers breastfeed their infants until the age of one? Scientists agree that breastfeeding does not work because hormones are destroyed in the stomach.

If breastfeeding does work by delivering lactoferins and immunoglobulins and hormones to the nursing infant, then the same mechanism works to insure that hormones in cow's milk survive digestive processes.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1998-11-06 18:52:55
Comments: Dear Robert, The Journal of the American Medical Association in it's September 23rd issue has published the results of a study that indicate that low fat dairy products such as milk,cheese and yougurt may reduce the risk of developing colon cancer, the third leading cause of cancer deaths and cancer cases,striking about 6% of all adult Americans. A control group increased intake of low fat dairy products to reach 1,500 mg.of calcium per day and showed a reduction in the growth of abnormal cells as well as returning some pre-cancerous colon cells to their normal state at six months and one year.Dairy product components including calcium,Vitamin D,butyrate,sphingomyelin and conjugated linoleic acid each play a role researchers noted. Your comments please! Regards, Jim

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

The study to which you refer was financed by the DAIRY INDUSTRY. That study was a FRAUD. The well-respected internet JUNK SCIENCE page (written by Steven Milloy) agrees with The NOTMILKMAN. I wrote two columns about that fraud. You can review my proofs by going to:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/101198.html

and;

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/101898.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: meg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: pa
Time: 1998-11-05 23:04:02
Comments: well hello again not milk man!!!this is meg the famous dairy princess. honest abe had an excellent point listing the other fat contents of milk. for some reason you only focus on whole milk. there is also skim, 1%, 2% plus of course whole. how do you explain osteoporosis? do you think that it just bam, all of a sudden appears in your body. no way!! it is caused by a lack of calcium. this pus you are always talking about is not put into the milk tank. cows that have mastitus are put into a seperate container that does not allow it to go into the tank. in fact this milk is dumped or given to the barn cats. you are making people believe that the pus is being put directly into the tank. IT IS NOT!!!! the pus that is on the filter of a farmers tank, if there is any, evidently didn't go into the tank so the consumer is not drinking it!! stop making farmers look bad. you almost make them feel like they are killing people. this web page is degrading to the american people excpecially the farmers of america!! meg

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Hello, famous dairy princess. You are always welcome here.

FDA sets America's standard for PUS in milk. They now allow 750 million pus cells per liter of milk. As far as killing people goes... Armed with the information that each sip of milk contains 59 different hormones and that eighty percent of all protein in milk is casein, an allergenic glue which causes histames to be produced and clogs the lungs...shall we talk about one recent death?

Flo Jo was a symbol to all Americans. Your industry hired her to pose for a milk pustache, even though the had violent reactions to bovine proteins. Flo Jo loved milk and cheese and suffered congestion as a result, a typical reaction. What do you imagine her final autopsy will reveal? This tragic conclusion to her life will reveal that her lungs were congested with mucous and frothy fluid. Her stomach will most certainly provide evidence of her last meal. You will find undigested dairy products in her stomach and still deny that CASEIN, the most allergenic of all substances was the cause of that mucous, congestion and death. Your industry betrayed Flo Jo. You may laugh at this tragedy but when I obtain the actual autopsy the truth will be known to all. Flo Jo was taking Benadryl to counteract that congestion. Benadryl is an antihistamine. She had histamines produced and milk and cheese were the culprits.

May Flo Jo rest in peace and her family and all people take comfort from what Flo Jo taught us...in life and in death.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: John Fields
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Salida, Colorado
Time: 1998-11-05 12:09:12
Comments: Wow, do I get upset when I read all the peoples comments about how good milk is for you. They feel that it is the only source for calcium. Where do all the animals get the calcium etc. after they are weaned. Has anyone out their read the book Doctor Pottingers Cats? I'm not sure if that is how you spell his name, but if anyone is interested, they can find it, as that is how you pronounce his name. I guess I don't need to apologize for that one word of perhaps, wrong spelling, after looking at some of the atrocious spelling of the milk lovers. I wonder if there is something that causes milk lovers to have a problem spelling? If anyone would like to drink pus and snot after they read this book they should have their heads examined. According to the information I have, a cow should only give milk for a period of 9 to 12 months, for their calf, after that the milk starts to turn into phlegm. Most dairy cows are milked for a period of several years. I had asthma very bad for the first 45 years of my life. The doctors said there was nothing I could do about it, once you have it you probably will never outgrow it. Guess what, when I quit drinking milk and milk products my Asthma was miraculously cured. The Doctors say I just outgrew it and it had nothing to do with my quitting milk. My sister on the other hand, did not have asthma when we were growing up. She continued drinking milk and milk products, she now has asthma, and refuses to give it up. The doctors say there is no connection. She won't listen to me or any of the information I give her. It's too bad, because I have talked to many people and read many stories about people that have had the same experience I had. Take heart, there are many people out there that still believe smoking does not cause cancer or emphysema. Well, I will close for now, thank you for a fine page on a problem that should be of major concern in the U.S.A. John

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear John,

It is a shame that doctor's have no clue. A doctor is only a detective. Doctors search for clues using sophisticated tools and intuition. They really never get the feedback that one's own body offers. If it hurts, don't do it! CASEIN is a substance representing 80% of all milk protein.

ALL HUMANS produce histamines to bovine serum casein. When you have such an allergenic substance and you produce histamines you produce mucous. The bronchioles of your lungs fill with "glue" and you have decreased breathing capabilities. We're talking asthma here, John. EVERY person taking my advice to give up all milk and dairy products DISCOVERS the cure for asthma.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: XJenyX
Website:
Referred by: AngelFire
From: Buff,N.Y.
Time: 1998-11-05 00:03:40
Comments: Drinking milk is VIOLATING a cow! You're taking milk from a mother who's only supposed to use that milk,(naturally)for her own young! What would you think if your mother's milk was being used or should I say, distributed/bought across the country? Wouldn't you think there was something wrong with this nation? That's how I see it with millions of nationwide people drinking something that has been raped from a victim who has no say. I guess everyone who's drinking milk is commiting a crime! It's called RAPE! And you know what I think people who drink milk should have done to them, they should all be CASTRATED! DRINKING MILK IS RAPE!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeny,

I wouldn't go that far...perhaps pet-ty larceny. Taking a calf from a moo-cow could be called kid-napping (or is that what they call taking a baby goat from its mother?) Keeping a cow lactating and having her drag her udders on the ground for ten months, now that is animal cruelty and there are laws. However, dairy cows are not animals (according to our government), they are agricultural "units." That is good news to all of us, because as units, they feel no pain. When they have sores on their udders and bleed into the milk they feel no pain. When they are branded with a glowing piece of steel while vises hold their nostrils as they smell their own seering flesh... they cannot feel pain (can they???). Oh, the things we do and say to relieve our consciences!

Hey, Jeny. Do you deserve a break today at MacDonalds? Would you really like to have it your way at Burger King? Rape you say? How about murder?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Chris
Website:
Referred by: Lycos
From:
Time: 1998-11-02 23:06:29
Comments: You are crazy little freaks. Why would milk be bad, huh?? What were you smoking when you said that garbage! First of all, babies need to live on milk, and second you are probably weak if you do not drink it. You are so crazy to think you can ban milk. SHAME ON YOU ALL!!! Milk is good for you It is not bad at all. And how dare you teall kids everywhere to ban Bill Clinton for being allergetic to Chocolate and Such it is so wrong to think you can get away with this, i hope you get caught. BAN MILK!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Chris,

Bill Clinton is a liar. He deserves to be impeached! When running for President he posed with a milk mustache and endorsed a substance that he refuses to serve in the White House because of his allergy to dairy products. That lie sent a false and dangerous message to Americans. Just how dangerous? Spend a little time here and read the columns and letters on this guestbook page. Start with the letter immediately preceding yours.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN Laughing out LOUD!!!!!


Name: Abraham Lincoln
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Franklin County, PA
Time: 1998-11-02 20:43:04
Comments: Dear NNM (not milk man): both of my parnets are doctors. my mother is a pediatrician and my father is a family physician. i asked both of them if milk causes brest cancer in women, and my mother said that she guesses it does because 100% of women who developed brest cancer drank milk when they were little. you also said that milk has 300 calories and 16g of fat per 12 oz glass. that is only if you drink whole milk. skim or 2% is alot better for you. skim milk has 160 calories and 0g of fat per serving. that is what i drink. i still cannot believe that milk is so bad for you. i know people that have drunk milk straight from the tank every day of thier lives who do not get sick from it. i have never seen a case of osteoprosis (is that spelled right?) in a franklin county farmer who has consumed milk his whole life. maybe my dad has, though. i'll have to ask him. bye for now. -Honest Abe

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mr. Lincoln,

Please give me your honest-Abe assessment of my latest column. I would appreciate a second opinion from your mom, the pediatrician, and a third opinion from your dad, the general practitioner. Do they recommend that kids under the age of one drink whole milk? For my column go to:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/110198.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Brian Powell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Fairfax, VA
Time: 1998-11-02 05:33:41
Comments: What about nonfat-dry milk Robert Cohen?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brian,

Mix one cup of that non-fat dry milk with one-half cup of water and use the paste to PUT UP YOUR WALLPAPER! Drink milk made from that powder and you ingest glue with hormones.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: R.Hamilton
Website: 2 Out of 10,000
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George,B.C., Canada
Time: 1998-11-01 22:17:30
Comments: 935 people out of every 100,000 in Canada will be diagnosed with cancer in 1998. 1.5 million have diabetes and up to 750,000 have it and have not discovered that fact. I was wondering if there are any figures for the combined deaths caused by cow milk in any given year for Canada or the U.S.? Heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Crohn's, Creutzfeldt-Jakob, osteoporosis, asthma, severe allergic reactions, misdiagnosed Alzheimer's, all have a common denominator. The combined deaths from these must be a large number indeed. It would be interesting to see just how large the number really is.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Today I received a private EMAIL from a milk lover who wrote:

"Every person who drank milk in 1850 is now dead."

He is right, of course. Why do I call milk the deadly poison? We have progressed, as a species, to the point at which we stand ready to claim our destiny. All people can live to be well over 100 years of age. Imagine visiting your doctor and having him/her tell you to eat 53 slices of bacon today because the cholesterol will make you healthy. Would you get a new doctor? Imagine that doctor writing you prescriptions for 59 differerent hormones and telling you to take each one three times each day. Imagine your advisor giving you a two-ounce container of airplane glue and telling you to mix the contents with water and make sure to eat the whole thing!

You would most certainly find a new physician and try to have your present doctor's license removed, yet, the average American eats from milk and dairy products each day the equivalent cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon. Each sip of milk contins 59 different hormones. Eighty percent of all milk and cheese protein is CASEIN, the same tenacious glue used to hold together the wood in your furniture.

MILK? Just say NO!!! Discover the Fountain of Youth...NOTMILK!!!

Regards,


Name: Shawn Reilly, Food Terrorist
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: New Haven, CT
Time: 1998-11-01 17:59:24
Comments: Milk, it does a body good. Yea right. Milk is garbage. I have just finished reading a few messages in your guest book written by people who make their living by producing dairy products. To me, it is the same as tobacco interests defending tobacco, absolutly pathetic. The things that are done to the cows to make them produce milk at the lowest possible cost is horrendous. Defending the USDA's Food Pyramid (a piece of trash written by agro-businesses massive lobbing dollars and not worth the paper it is written on) is just plain sad. It is time to sell the farm and move on.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Shawn,

Dairy farmers are the hardest working people in America. Their work ethics and values should gain them success in whatever field they pursue. Gentlemen tobacco farmers also work hard, but I cannot compare their daily routines to those of the average dairyman who I admire.

However, the dairyman and tobacco farmer both are drug producers. Smoking cigarettes causes cancer. Even the cigarette inductry executives no longer debate that point. Nicotine is a powerful addicting drug. So too do steroid and protein hormones exert powerful effects.

MILK CONTAINS HORMONES. What are we, as a society to do?

Many dairymen ask me to consider the millions of jobs at stake. Will they pause to consider the health of my kids or of theirs? Do they want my daughters to take estrogen and progesterone every day... and prolactin and melatonin?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nicholas Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Guernsey
Time: 1998-11-01 17:21:49
Comments: Thanks for your informative site. I have been researching quite heavily into milk and dairy products in my spare time. I am disgusted at what I have found in both books and on the internet yet the government still promotes dairy products as healthy. I am currently compiling a report about all the ill-effects of dairy consumption which I will release on the internet shortly. It's about time consumers herd (excuse the pun) the whole story. I get really annoyed when large companies are allowed to brainwash society with advertisments. I look forward to reading your book and please keep up the excellent work. In fact I feel quite cheated by the dairy industry. I used to consume large amounts of milk because I thought it was doing my body good. I feel much healthier having given all dairy products up. I used to get bad acne (I had tried all sorts of creams for about 5 years but still couldn't get rid of it) but now it has totally vanished. I am wondering if this could be due to my non-consumption of dairy. I can't find much scientific research on this but it certainly has worked for me and it seems a conicidence. Do you know of any connection? I went out for a meal with some friend last night and my sister had macaroni cheese. It looked disgusting now that I know the truth about dairy. I couldn't help think about the hormones, bacteria and pus. In fact, it nearly put me off my meal! I think dairy products should be taxed by the government because they are SOOO unhealthy (afterall we tax cigarettes). Dairy advertisments should focus on the fact that dairy tastes nice if they want to sell their product not that it is healthy because this is a lie. The government should also insist on putting health warnings on dairy products. Anyone who is still sceptical I suggest you look in your local library or on the internet (or my soon to be realeased report).

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

There is not much information in the medical literature linking milk and dairy products to acne. I imagine that the dairy industry does not want to finance such a study. All that I can offer you are non-scientific anecdotal stories as evidence. Every teenager who has taken my advice to discontinue milk and dairy products finds his or her acne disappears after about two weeks. This is not hard to understand. Eat a food containing fat and pus with 59 different hormones and combine that with the enormous surge of the hormones of youth...and that pus and those steroids might just pop up all over your face...

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Peter Bray
Website: Pedro Los Dos
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Benicia, CA
Time: 1998-10-31 05:57:01
Comments: My daughter, Cathy, age 31, has had colitis for 11 years.We are most interested in what your research has to say about milk and its possible relationship to colitis. Many thanks for your efforts, we'll be checking out your book. Will be in touch. --PB

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Peter,

I have written two columns about colitis and Crohn's disease. The links are:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/062898.html

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/080998.html

Your daughter should first be tested for the presense of a bacteria called mycobacterium paratuberculosis. This bacteria causes Johne's disease in cows, constant diarrhea. Dairymen are extremely concerned. There is evidence that this bacteria is not killed by pasteurization. One Florida doctor blames milk consumption as the etiology of the Crohn's in 47 of his 51 patients. By reading my columns you will learn of an antibiotic protocol which successfully eliminated this bacteria in 93 percent of his cases.

Many things can cause colitis. The "gut" weakens and degrades for many different reasons. Many of the causes have been linked to milk consumption. I suggest that you explore the work of Oster and Ross. I write about them in MILK: The Deadly Poison. There is also a link to their work at the reference icon on my NOTMILK website.

Many times colitis patients are given prednisone or prednisolone to ease symptoms. These drugs can be so irritating and doctors offer this advice: Take the drug with milk. Milk might be the actual cause of the problem to begine with. I offer many theories, with medical support. Milk contains lactose which causes irritible bowels. Too much calcium has been associated with colon cancer.

If your daughter has not given up all milk and dairy products, now is the time to urge her to do just that!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: meg
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: PA
Time: 1998-10-30 22:58:24
Comments: you told me that the 3-4 servings is not a fact. well tell the national food and drug administration that one. they are the ones that put it on their food pyramids that are sent to various schools around our area. i think that you should e-mail my brother. he is studying veternarian medicine at virginia tech. he finished his undergraduate work in three years not four at PSU. this is an awesome agricultural school. he has won various awards for his involvement in the dairy industry. cory was prevued in Hoards dairyman and also received a dairy shrine award in madison wisconsin. his name is cory meyers and he could give you one good arguement about the dairy industry. his e-mail address is comeyers@mail.vt.edu. please feel free to e-mail him anything. anyone on this web page can do so. Drink milk and stay HEALTHY and FIT!!!! oh yea one more thing do you know what homogenized and pastuerized mean? meg

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Meg,

Much has been written about the United States Department of Agriculture FOOD PYRAMID. The final form is a result of enormous lobbying efforts by various industry interest groups. Three glasses of milk per day is not a fact. It is a suggestion. Pasteurization does not destroy BST/BGH in milk, now that is a fact! IGF-I is identical between humans and cows and has been called the key factor in human cancer, now that is a fact.

Thank you for your brothers EMAIL address. I will add him to the ANTIDAIRY Coalition mailing list. He most certainly will enjoy Sunday's column!

As to your last question, I do know what the words homogenization and pasteurization mean.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: kyle
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-10-30 21:59:03
Comments: not milk man no i will not allow a photographer to come to my home and picture the filter i see it every day and say man i am glad that we have one of these and that it helps to keep out all this stuff. yes you are correct by saying it helps keep out the stuff that is not to go in. the filter is as small as it can get to allow the flow of milk through it for milk is a denser liquid than water or apple juice. there are many filtering systems along the way and treatments to eliminate the bacteria and pus and whatever else you think is in it. all i am asking is that you stop busting milk so hard just because you dont like the taste of it or why ever you dont like it. you claim it is bad for you have you ever drank milk? i will laugh in your face when you are old and your bones start to break easily cause you were to damn stubborn to drink milk. oh yes i would not drink milk of a dog or elephant or any other breed of animal except from a cow because with a cow i know that it has been regulated and is safe for consumtion. kyle

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kyle,

I used to drink lots of milk and pigged out on ice cream, yogurt and cheese. I used to love the pus with blue mold that others call Blue Cheese...ice cream was to die for. Milk and dairy products are delicious. There is no denying this. My refrigerator was at one time never without Brie and Gruyere and sour cream. I cooked only with clarified butter and probably was the biggest dairy eater in New Jersey.

Congratulations for telling the truth! I admire you. Most dairy farmers do not let on to the secret about the existance of those filters. It is a disgusting thought... the discharges and blood and clotted pus and feces in milk. Yes, you do filter most of it out. Still, that bouquet stays with me. I cannot look at a glass of milk without having a strong visual image of what is filtered out, and the tastes and flavors still remaining.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: marissa garcia
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: sandiego.CA
Time: 1998-10-29 22:47:35
Comments: it's good to know someone cares enough to educate the rest of us who are just only suspicious but lazy:) Have you heard: "The human body has as much need for cow's milk as it does for horse's milk, dog's milk or giraffe's milk."-www.veganoutreach.org. Uhg! that brings it home.

Name: kyle
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: pa
Time: 1998-10-29 22:35:28
Comments: dear "bobby" I am dissapointed that you think that milk contains pus and other disgusting items. Where are we supposed to get the calcium from to help build muscle and bone structure and strength from if we boycott milk and milk products. do you think that the fact that we are smarter, stronger, and in control of the world has anything to do with the fact that we drink milk all through out or life? kyle

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kyle,

The Food and Drug Administration sets the pus standard by allowing no more than 750,000,000 pus cells in every liter of milk sold in America. Why does every dairy farmer use a filter to strain out the pus, clotted blood and feces? Would you allow a photographer to come to your farm and record the contents of that filter? Imagine if apple juice or bottled water had the same filter. These products would not be fit for human consumption.

Where do cows or race horses or elephants get their muscle or bone structure or strength from, Kyle? Would you drink milk from a lactating dog and expect to get the same body strength and intelligence that you now possess? Why or why not? I await your response.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Keryn
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Sydney
Time: 1998-10-29 12:32:01
Comments: I have a comment about your cholesterol comments. We don't CONSUME CHOLESTEROL. We make it in our own bodies. We make cholesterol because it is a precursor (that is building block) for vitamin E. So, the facts are there are no cholesterol in foods and we need to make it in our own bodies. And about mucous. Does everybody know what mucous is? The so called mucous is the secretion by our own bacteria (healthy ones)and the secretion attacks the foreign bacteria. We get the mucous out by coughing etc.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Keryn,

This is good news indeed! There is no cholesterol in food? The chicken, egg and beef producers will be happy to hear this news. We must re-write our medical textbooks and re-educate nutritionists! We should burn all of those erroneous government documents warning us to limit our intake of animal cholesterol. Quick, call the American Heart Association and share your information with them!

Thank you for your mucous comments too! Many of the world's greatest doctors have called casein the most allergenic of all proteins. Casein represents eighty percent of all milk protein. Histamines are produced when casein enters the human body and mucous results.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Anna Wex
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA!
Time: 1998-10-28 07:26:01
Comments: X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Anna,

I see that you are from Canada but I do not speak Canadian so I'll have to guess at what you are trying to say. Canada is in the midst of a great controversy: whether to approve or deny Monsanto's application for the genetically engineered milk hormone (rbST/rbGH). Regulators have been bribed by Monsanto (revealed on the "FIFTH ESTATE" television show) and scientists have been rpressured (last month's front page news in your newspapers). The recently released GAP REPORT reveals enormous gaps in knowledge of what happened to lab animals treated with rbST/rbGH.

So...that "Moooooo" in the middle of those x's seems to be a pained cry...an animal whose udders are filled with milk...her teats bleeding from pussy sores, her system stressed, her young calf taken from her to be chained so that it cannot move so that it can become anemic and have white flesh to satisfy our cravings for veal. That is indeed a sad moooooo.

Thank you for your letter.

Regards,

Then NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jen Purnhagen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NJ
Time: 1998-10-28 01:49:48
Comments: Wow! You did an excellent job of displaying all of the facts. I've been vegan for about 3 years and I am really happy to see such a professional and informative site. Keep up the good work! ANIMAL LIBERATION!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jen,

When I read about the milk controversy four years ago I was a meat eater...I had little clue about animal liberation issues. I have now been VEGAN for one year and support PEOPLE LIBERATION. Many people look upon vegetarians and vegans as being fanatical. Our issues include animal's rights and compassion to all creatures. However, what must come first is compassion to one's own body.

Eat animal flesh and your body needs many more hours to digest the foods in your stomach. Drink milk and you change your stomach's acidity so that foods are difficult to digest. At reduced acidity, foods ferment and putrify and the stomach needs more acid. Good health reults from compassion to your body, and in turn, we become compassionate to animals by not eating them.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Dave
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ca
Time: 1998-10-27 13:56:55
Comments: recently heard your interview on K101 radio in S.F. great info on this webpage! do you mind if i link your page onto mines? --Dave

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dave,

Please be my guest! The more people who learn this truth means the healthier we all become. Next time you experience the rage from a driver (road rage) ask yourself whether you want the average person to ingest 59 different bioactive hormones each day. That is what the average American does. People eat concentrated hormones in every bite of cheese. Does anybody (other than the Pennsylvania dairy princess who wears a rhinestone-laced tiara while ruling on her throne, high atop mount Harrisburg) imagine that the adrenalin (epinephrine) and testosterone does not work?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Julie Juggs
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-10-27 03:46:23
Comments: I would like to say that it wasn't Meg our cherished and honored dairy princess but another dairy lover that found herself extremely upset after reading your piece of sh_t web page. I would like to say, though, that the urge of coming to your house, riping off your balls and pushing them down our throat all while drinking a big old glass milk is a mutual feeling in our community. Thank you.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Julie,

Is this language, spelling and punctuation common to all Pennsylvanians or just to the dairy folk of your good state? Why would you desire to rip off my testicles and stuff them down your own throat? This sounds similar to the age-old ritual (a common practice) of castrating (and feminizing) young male cattle. The testes are ripped off...I didn't know you ate 'em too! Well, they do say that some folks believe everything goes down well with milk, eh? Bon apetit!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: meg
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: pa
Time: 1998-10-27 00:24:54
Comments: who do you think you are? God or something? i live in frankiln county and it is second in dairy producing in PA. your stupid page is insulting and degrading to the franklin county dairy farmers. how about stating some benefits of dairy products? they outnumber the negatives that you have been stating. your research is not good enough. i don't care about buffy the vampire slayer. you have brain washed her just like you have brain washed the other 2 people that listen to you. so guess what DRINK MILK!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Meg,

This is the third letter in two days posted on my guestbook page from your computer terminal. I welcome your posts. It allows me to see into the heart and soul of a Pennsylvania dairy princess. Your language from a previous post (letter # 614) would make a New Jersey truck driver blush, but hey, that's what makes people different.

Since you are a spokesperson for your state and the dairy industry, perhaps you would enjoy participating in an interview on a major Philadelphia show that I will be doing next week. Please call my office (201-871-5871) and we can set up a debate. That should be fun. I am anxious to hear about all of milk's benefits!

If you like, you can post another message here with a list of those benefits.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: natasha
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Perth, Western Australia
Time: 1998-10-24 18:21:01
Comments: Your site and info is really interesting. I have been trying for ages to find out if there are any other animals that drink another species' milk. The only example I could find was a small bird which hangs around mother giraffes and cleans up any little dribbles the baby giraffes leave behind. Maybe this is due to water shortages or taking advantage of an unused food supply. If anyone can explain this or has other exampes I would like to hear about them. Also, what is the low-down on soy products? At a conference I attended, permaculture guru Bill Mollison suggested that soy products were not that good for you, as they required excessive amounts of pesticides, fungicides, insecticides etc. I am not sure if I heard this right, or if this is just the case with Australian soy beans. Anyway, I have decided to give up on dairy and I am much more motivated after reading your website. Thanks.

Name: xoxi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: queens, new york
Time: 1998-10-23 22:44:57
Comments: Mr cohen, I heard you on the gary null program. I would like to know if goat and sheeps milk and cheeses are less bad than cow's milk.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Goat's milk is a wonderful substance for baby goats. Dog's milk is a delicious fluid and best enjoyed by baby dogs. Same for skunk milk, possum milk...whale milk...best food and formula for the infant of each species.

Each formula contains hormones and lactoferins and immunoglobulins intended to passed from the mother to the child. You would not eat those same hormones in pill form. Here, have some goat estrogen, pig testosterone or cow adrenalin. Would you take those pills?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: megan
Website: none
Referred by: From a Friend
From: PA
Time: 1998-10-23 22:18:50
Comments: who do you think you are. i am the pennsylvania state alternate dairy princess and i think that it is awful what you are writing. so many of my friends think that you are a dork. i live in a highly agricultural area and reading what i just read is stupid and highly uncalled for. are you some genious that thinks he can go around and write things that are not true. how about listing the benifits of dairy products. they outnumber the bad things. think about it. i know that there is freedom of speech and everything but if you think that freedom of speech means telling lies then you better go back to school. my parents were highly offended and so were a lot of people in my community. i represent the whole state of PA and what you are saying is disgrace. how about giving some recognition to those hard working individuals known as farmers instead of bashing what they produce. think about it. it is not that hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Dairy Princess,

Thank you for your kind comments. I appreciate the fact that you represent the entire state of PA and I appreciate the energy and thought that went into your letter.

Your friends think that I am a dork? Well, I have heard a lot worse...What made them think that? When I said that there are 59 different bioactive hormones in milk, citing endocrinologist Clark Grosvenor's work, is that what did it? Perhaps the fact that 80% of milk protein is CASEIN, a tenacious glue? Does that make me dorky? I relate to people the fact that 60 percent of cows in America have bovine leukemia virus. Is that fact offensive to you? We drink body fluids from diseased animals and proudly wear milk pustaches...I refuse to be made beautiful so I do not wear one. Maybe that's why I am a dork. Hmm...I know what it is! I just added BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER to the ANTIDAIRY Coalition "HALL OF SHAME."

Check out my latest column http://www.antidairycoalition.com/102598.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN (and the notdorkman)


Name: Raenna Peiss
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Detroit
Time: 1998-10-22 04:06:59
Comments: First off, let me say that I found your site not online but in a *FITNESS* magazine. Much to my ire, they were "slamming" you. Now then, I am a vegetarian of 2.5 years and a vegan of 1.5 years. I had requested an information packet from PETA and inside was a nice booklet on nutrition published by the PCRM--Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine. I cannot believe how brainwashed we are to think that animal products are good food. Humans have the teeth, digestive tract, and salivary PH of herbivores! On top of all this, casien has recently been identified as a carcinogen. Milk *is* a good food....as long as it comes directly from the mother and goes directly to her infant. Cow milk is intended for a calf who will grow to be several hundred pounds within a few weeks and double its weight in a few days. Why are humans so perverse as to be the only species to continue drinking milk beyond infancy? And the milk of another species, too? Even from human to human, the mother's milk is best. Peace--Ahimsa--Love

Name: Elizabeth
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Ithaca, NY
Time: 1998-10-21 22:01:07
Comments: Mr Cohen, I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to talk at Ithaca College last night. I have read a lot about animal rights and knew some of the issues with milk and dairy but much of what you said was new to me. I have had a few important discussions since then. This web site is great but I was wondering if you had any pamplets that I could hand out like the Why vegan one. I need to convice someone that their allergies may be related to the insane amount of dairy they intake. thanks, Elizabeth

Name: susan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: North Caolina
Time: 1998-10-20 06:56:16
Comments: You forgot about the migraines and the backaches that milk causes. I am a firm believer you do not need milk. I have not used dairy products since I was 12 I am now 43 and in my twenties had three children each weighing around nine lbs and did not use dairy durning pregancy.

Name: Mandy Trichell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Houston
Time: 1998-10-20 02:54:54
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I have a request. I would greatly appreciate it if you could send to me a list of some sources that will prove satisfactory to milk drinkers that the average age of the onset of menses in Asian girls tends to be around 17, rather than 11 as it is here in the west. I know I have found these statements before, but I really can't recall the sources. I hope you don't mind me picking your brain. I just have very little time to do the research myself, as my 6 month old daughter is nagging me to nurse as I type. Thanks.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Mandy,

I also have read that claim, but have found no documentation. However, there has been a study...

We now have the opportunity to observe the dramatic alteration in the onset of mensus in one nation, Japan, as a result of one primary dietary change. In 1940 the Japanese people consumed no dairy products. After World War II cows were brought to Japan and by 1950 the Japanese per capita consumption of milk was 5.5 pounds per year. By 1975 that consumption had increased to 117.4 pounds per person.

During that twenty-five year period the average Japanese girl gained 19 pounds, gained 4 1/2 inches in height, and the age of her first menstruation fell from 15.2 years to 12.2 years.

My detailed comments can be found at:

http://www.antidairycoalition.com/072698.html

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Mandy Trichell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Houston
Time: 1998-10-20 02:16:34
Comments: I just wanted to say that I think it's interesting how most of the people who sign the guestbook and disagree with you never seem to be able to offer any information supporting the opposition. Most of the time, they say things like, "This is bullshit," or "You're a moron." These kind of replies only further your cause and discredit your foes.

Name: Brooke Willingham
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Granbury,TX
Time: 1998-10-20 01:26:17
Comments: Great page.

Name: Alison Pacer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Chicago
Time: 1998-10-18 01:25:34
Comments: it was very convincing, and I learned things that I did not know before.

Name: Mad Hank
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Grimy Gritty, New York City
Time: 1998-10-17 00:44:59
Comments: You make me want to drink more milk reading that hormone list. Do you have any idea how much those hormones cost on the streets?

Dear Hank,

FACT OF LIFE: Our cost of living is skyrocketing!

Bacon costs $3 per pound and you only get 16 slices. There are 3 mg. of cholesterol in each slice. The average American eats 161 mg. of cholesterol each day from milk and dairy products, the equivalent cholesteol contained in 53 slices of bacon. You would have to spend over $10 on bacon to get that cholesterol and half that amount on milk!

Milk really is a bargain! Hormones, cholesterol...glue, pus and bacteria. Who else would give you such a bargain? Thank you, dairy people! :>)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michael Taliercio
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Long Island, NY
Time: 1998-10-17 00:34:45
Comments: I heard about it on the Atkins Show this morning. What a scam by our government. Thank you for such valuable information.

Name: Terry S. Singeltary Sr.
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: BACLIFF, TEXAS
Time: 1998-10-16 03:04:47
Comments: Hello Mr. Cohen, I'm joining your campaign against Dairy Products. They MURDERED MY MOTHER, and MANY MORE. NOT THE COW, BUT THE GREEDY PEOPLE WHO RAISE THEM. THEY WANT IT ALL. BUT, IN THE END, THEY WILL LOOSE IT ALL. I SAW YOUR ARTICLE IN NEXUS MAGAZINE. THE EDITOR (MR. DUNCAN, SENT ME A COPY, HE HAD PUBLISHED A LETTER TO THE EDITOR, I HAD WROTE HIM IN THE AUG.-SEPT-VOL5,#5 ISSUE. SAME ISSUE YOUR ARTICLE WAS IN. GLAD TO KNOW YOUR WEB-SITE IS HERE.....MADCOWDEADMOMMADSON!!!!!

Name: Michael Bruncati
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Highlands, New Jersey
Time: 1998-10-15 23:14:42
Comments: I got your URL while listening to Gary Null on WBAI

Name: Common Sense
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1998-10-15 23:05:04
Comments: Robert~

We heard you today WBAI in NYC. Great discussion with loads of REAL information! We look forward to reviewing your book.

Keep up the great work.


Name: webmaster
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: San Diego, CA
Time: 1998-10-15 09:09:28
Comments: Ten years with chronic back and abdominal pain and 17 doctors later I was finally diagnosed with an ulcer and anemia. Was told to eliminate all dairy products. Now I am fine. Dairy caused me excruciating back pain and digestive problems for 10 years!!!! Why are we being told that milk is good for us? Milk is good for baby cows and the corporations that rob milk from adult cows, forcing them to a life of slavery. Cost me $30,000 in medical bills for my worthless treatments and diagnosis by highly trained medical "professionals", until I found one who knew dairy was toxic. STOP THE LIES!

Name: Rod Stroker
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kanata
Time: 1998-10-15 03:19:05
Comments: Great info! Keep up the fight against the greedy bastards! I was leafing through a recent copy of Maclean's (Canadian magazine similar to TIME) when I came across a half-page ad extolling the virtues of eating dairy products. One of the more disturbing bits of info contained in this advertisement was the claim that lactose-intolerant people should adopt a "fight fire with fire" attitude when it comes to their reaction to dairy products. (Not exact quote) "...start by slowly introducing milk and dairy products into your diet...work up to 3 or 4 servings a day until the lactose intolerance is no longer a problem..." Gee, what great advice! I've got a splitting headache...I know, I'll crank up the music and down another beer!! Perhaps you should up your efforts in my country. Most Canadians hold milk & dairy as sacred as a friggin' hockey game.

Name: Monte McConnell
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button
From: Eugene, OR
Time: 1998-10-14 09:27:33
Comments: I heard you on John and Ken. I quit drinking milk two days later! I have not had any milk for two months. My dad no longer drinks milk and this week, my 22 month old baby quit drinking milk! We all drink soy and I really do feel much better! I LOVED Milk! But now I get along great without it! Thank you so much! Monte

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Monte,

You and quite a few others! :>)

Pay attention to how many more milkstache ads you see. The dairy industry is stepping up their marketing efforts. Alas...milk consumption decreases at an accelerated rate. Last year one billion less pounds of milk were consumed by Americans. Many give me the credit. Thanks to your wisdom and others like you we will have a healthier America!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kevin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-10-14 04:13:54
Comments: Civilation is still alive today. So milk hasn't killed anyone.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

"Civilation is still alive?" Thank you for sharing with us your own very special version of an oxymoron!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Pauli McGwin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: WI
Time: 1998-10-13 17:29:13
Comments: I am a dairy farmer, on my way to work now. We have not EVER used rBST in our cows, and our milk is not contaminated by any drugs. Any cow that is given an antibiotic for any reason is milked separately into a waste can, and that milk is dumped for days until lab tests show the sample is clear. There are serious government regulations against farmers selling milk with antibiotics in it. Each day when our tank is emptied the creamery takes a tank sample to test for drug residues. If any trace of drug is found our milk is dumped, and the creamery and the federal government would set hefty fines for the error. In fact, when I inadvertently started a treated cow on the pipeline one day, we had to stop in our tracks, dump ALL the milk in our tank, and start over again with totally uncontaminated tank. A few years ago there was an incident with a nearby farm where a disgruntled ex-employee intentionally injected 3cc of penicillin into a milk bulk tank that held over 4,000 lbs of milk. The lab found the drug, the farm was fined heavily, plus had to pay for all the other farmers' milk that was blended with the contaminated milk. Eventually, after nearly going bankrupt, the ex-employee was arrested and tried for the crime, and CONVICTED. He's now in jail. The checks and balances system WORKS to keep all our products safe for consumers. Check a little more closely with your information. You sure have a lot of bullshit on your website, and the service you provide for people is hate-filled and erroneous. I also come from a family with lactose-intolerance. All my children grew out of it by the age of 2. You only have to avoid dairy products in children until 1 yr old, then carefully introduce dairy products and watch for reaction, just like you would for any other food allergy. If it can't be tolerated, don't use it. You don't have to slam the entire industry that is providing a healthy, clean product, unlike soft drinks, beer, Koolaid. I'd certainly rather see my kids drink milk than 90% of the garbage sold on the market.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Farmer Pauli,

I will assume that your cows are the healthiest bovines in the United States of America. I will assume that they never get sick, are toilet trained so that their feces do not mix into the milk. Nor do their udders get sores and bleed, the blood mixing with pus as it does in other dairy herds. I will also assume that you do not feed your animals bone meal and blood meal or chicken excrement like other dairy farmers do. Your animals go out to pasture and graze all day on grass and herbs. For arguments sake, your milk is so clean and pure that you do not even have to pasteurize it, for there is no bacteria present.

Let me tell you about your milk. The cleanest milk from the healthiest cow contains 59 different powerful bioactive hormones. Even if the milk is pasteurized, those hormones are not destroyed. Those hormones ae naturally present in milk. Protein? Eighty percent of the natural protein in milk (and cheese) is casein, the same product used to hold a label to a bottle of beer. Casein is the glue used to hold together the wood in our furniture. The average American, from the ice cream and cheese and sour cream and dozens of other dairy products will consume today the equivalent cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon. That adds up to the same cholesterol contained in 19,345 slices of bacon this year and by age 52, the same cholesterol contained in one-million slices of bacon. Milk and dairy products represent 40 percent of the average American diet. We have no clue what causes heart disease, our number one killer.

All this from healthy/wholesome milk.

I applaud your efforts in not using MONSANTO'S genetically engineered poison. You have great wisdom. I regret that the rest of my message comes as a shock to you. You have always believed that you were producing nature's perfect food for Americans.

Now you know differently. You are going to have to deal with this, my friend. TRUTH can be quite bitter.

Regards,

t=The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Oregon
Time: 1998-10-12 10:00:03
Comments: Dear Robert, Things are a little slow here in Oregon at the moment and I was wondering if you would mind me "horning in" on your scam? But I've got a question. I can't decide whether to attack Motherhood or Cherry Pie. You've already got milk covered! Please advise.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jim,

"Horning?" Must be some of those 59 different bioactive hormones found in every sip of milk, huh?

The cherry pie industry has nothing to fear from the NOTMILKMAN.

In fact, Motherhood is an institution that I also hold sacred. Unlike scientists, I believe that breastfeeding works, Jim. Perhaps, while things are slow in Oregon you might ponder the following: Does breastfeeding work? Do nursing mothers pass anything on to their infants? FDA and scientists claim that physiological benefits from nursing are not possible because proteins in milk are dstroyed by gastric enzymatic activity in the infant's stomach and gut.

FDA approved MONSANTO'S genetically engineered hormone because of the above (lack of) logic. Now, if you and your friends in Oregon do believe that breastfeeding does work...that milk delivers lactoferins and immunoglobulins to the nursing infant, then you MUST also accept the GIVEN that cow's milk contains hormones and that they too work.

That being the case, do you want 59 different bioactive hormones in your body with each sip of milk, Jim? You might have great intentions, but I think that you're a long way from the Oregon trail!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: sophie
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: new zealand
Time: 1998-10-10 16:08:06
Comments: i am really pleased to see such a website. I read your Nexus article and was very impressed. i am 25 and have not let dairy (or meat)pass my lips for 3 years. my almost 2-year-old has never touched dairy and is the healthiest, most vibrant and advanced child of his age i have encountered. I am also 4 months pregnant and am very healthy, which seems to surprise many people. When I was breastfeeding I used to marvel that people so readily drink the milk of cows, yet would find the idea of drinking human milk repulsive! thanks for all your great info.

Name: Florine Demosthene
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Brooklyn New York/Haiti
Time: 1998-10-09 21:34:50
Comments: Hey, I knew this about milk a long time ago. That is why all these young adults and kids look so huge/big bone-all that hormone that is not only in dairy products, but also in the meat/chicken that they eat. I'm lactose intolerant, so, oI don't have a choice as to eating or not eating dairy products. Even if it's a baked product, like cookies, if it has an ounce of milk, my body begins to reject it. I do not think that your site is AS convincing as it should be. People who are heavy meat/dairy eaters will be on the offensive, because they might interpret the information, as a promotion of VEGAN-ISM--which is a good idea, but will probably get lost in all the anti-milk info.

Name: ROBERT COHEN
Website: NOTMILK
Referred by: Net Search
From: WORLD TOUR
Time: 1998-10-09 18:37:10
Comments: HELLO TO EVERYBODY FROM GERMANY!

MILK-THE DEADLY POISON WILL SOON BE AVAILABLE IN DOZENS OF LANGUAGES! :>)

THE NOTMILKMAN


Name: Emily
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: United Kingdom
Time: 1998-10-07 14:29:34
Comments: Whoops, guess I didn't think before I posted before. The truth is, I am aware of the excellent points you made in reply to my comments. I don't drink milk (in fact I'm vegan) and if someone is asking me why they shouldn't either I usually reply with much the same arguments as you used to reply to my posting. Its just that they often, sadly, are not enough. Often U.S. sites seem intended only for other citizens of the U.S., and that, while understandable, can get very frustrating. I just like to make sure I have all my facts straight when I can, before stating my case against milk to sceptical people who have grown up on the myth of healthy, necessary milk, which is why I enquired about the differences in the regulations between the U.S. and Europe when it comes to drugs permissible in milk production.

Name: Lucinda O. Strickland
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Cincinnati, Oh
Time: 1998-10-06 23:16:57
Comments: I heard you on a gospel radio station today during my lunch. You really got my attention on the subject of milk. Thank you,

Dear Lucinda,

That was a gospel radio station? WOW! The GOSPEL, according to the NOTMILKMAN! Glad you listened! :>)

Regards,

Robert "NOTMILKMAN" Cohen


Name: g g m
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: nj
Time: 1998-10-06 22:59:08
Comments: heard you on channel 12 nj news. very enlightening enjoyed your commentary and found information useful

Name: Emily
Website:
Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook
From: The United Kingdom
Time: 1998-10-06 18:59:32
Comments: Great site, but I believe that not all the chemicals that go into milk in the U.S. are also present in European milk products at present. I hear, however, that hormones not previously allowed in our milk might be on the way. Info for non-Americans would be much appreciated! Cheers.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Emily,

Most cows:

Ultimately end their lives in slaughterhouses. MOST cows live painful lives and experience horrendous and painful deaths. MOST cows chew cud. MOST cows have more than one stomach. MOST cows have udders.

Milk from ALL cows contains powerful growth hormones. Milk from ALL cows contains allergenic proteins. Milk from ALL cows contains fat and cholesterol.

A cow is a cow is a cow, and a cow by any other name is still a cow and her milk by any other name is still milk and her secretions were intended to be consumed by her calf who should gain 500 pounds in six months.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: lilian arnold
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 1998-10-06 08:22:58
Comments: I was just wondering, if anyone had any info about this new filtered milk trend. What's the deal with it? I've seen various commercials proclaiming the health benefits of drinking "filtered" milk....a local coffee chain now only uses filtered milk in their coffee......is this all just hype or what?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lilian,

All dairy farmers are faced with the challenge of filtering out feces, blood and mucous/pus from their milk. They use a combination of filters or clarifying agents which remove the visible parts of what might offend thee. One day their filters might be sophisticated enough to remove the bacteria, virus, 59 different powerful hormones, destructive proteins such as casein and lactalbumin-which destroys the insulin-producing beta cells of the pancreas.

When the day comes that all of the above are filtered out of milk and the cholesterol, fat, antibiotics and pesticides too... well, on that day I might be tempted to try some of that stuff.

KEY WORD...MIGHT...The thought of drinking body fluids from abused animals whose udders bleed to quench my thirst is still not appealing to me...perhaps with therapy I might become the average American who has been taught to enjoy all of the above! :>)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Norm Kruse
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Ottawa, Canada
Time: 1998-10-05 19:20:02
Comments: Your site makes some very good points, but the tone will only be acceptable by the converted. Calling milk 'death in a bottle' is hard to accept by the majority who have grown up with the impression that children 'need' milk. Cheers, Norm

Name: Mike
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: The dairy State
Time: 1998-10-03 06:45:14
Comments: GO MILK.You people ar crazy for believing thei stuff MILK is the best source of calcium available to you. Drink Milk

Name: tarzan
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: nj
Time: 1998-10-02 19:27:22
Comments: this is great info. i quit milk 6 years ago and havenever felt better. milk is a slow death or your organism! thanx!

Name: Thomas Richmond
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Northern California
Time: 1998-10-02 10:56:57
Comments: Looks like an informative site. Thanks and keep up the good work!

Name: Fievie Rudnick
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Chadds Ford, PA
Time: 1998-10-02 06:10:21
Comments: Professor Emeritus, Chemistry, West Chester University of Pennsylvania

Name: michael james frantz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: a college (student)
Time: 1998-10-02 00:09:57
Comments: wow that stuff is sick and now i will not drink milk ever again.

Name: Debbie Grose
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Australia
Time: 1998-10-01 19:00:10
Comments: My daughter is Lactose Intolerant. We found this out about 2 years ago and she is now 7. Since researching milk and it's effects on humans I have almost got my whole family dairy free now. It was hard at first but the longer we stick at it the easier it gets. It helps having somewhere like your site to visit as it spurs me on. Great site!!!!!!! Keep up the great work of informing and well researched information. Yours in health, Debbie

Name: Gloyde Williams
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Bklyn, NY
Time: 1998-09-29 07:35:21
Comments: I heard you on the G.B.E radio show on 9/28/98 it was good.My wife finally believe what I've been saying for years.Keep up the fight. Gods blessings always.

Name: Michelle Burns-Mitchell
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Queens, NY
Time: 1998-09-29 07:18:34
Comments: I've heard Mr. Cohen on several radio stations recently. WLIB and WBAI the Gary Knoll show. I did the milk test 6days off and dairied my self to death on the 7Th day. Well Charmin was my best friend. THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!! Sincerely, Michelle Burns-Mitchell

Name: Carolyn Singer
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Columbus, Ohio
Time: 1998-09-29 07:13:57
Comments: Greetings, I heard about your book from Nexus Magazine. Happened to find your book in the library. I have always hated milk and was forced to drink it as a child and while pregnant. Five years ago I went through a bout of Candida, terrible immune suppression and allergies which I never knew I had. I have ended up with tinnitus and have been trying to find out what it's cause is since everything else has cleared up. I was forced to give up dairy while I was getting over the Candida, and I felt great. Since reading your book I am REALLY trying to give up the very small amount of butter I use and especially cheese. I did it before and I can and will do it again. I am outraged at the gluttony for money the industry has. To put the lives of the unsuspecting public in jeopardy for their greed is horrible. There are not enough words to describe how low they are. Keep up the good work. Since the research I had to do to get well because of "Environmental Illness" (now I see milk was probably a part of it too) I have been hot to warn people about how our surroundings and foods are making us sick. There is a better way to live, but you have to work to find it. Because of my personal research and what I went through with the health establishment I do not trust Doctors, Hospitals, the media, Lawyers, Bankers, or our elected officials. Everyone is on the take. It seems that everyone is blind, so was I till I became so ill I had to find my own path to better health because the medical establishment certainly had no intentions of helping me. Most people, I've found WILL NOT listen to truth till they are hit broadside by debilitating illness. That usually gets their attention. I, and I'm sure many thousands of others, really appreciate all the time, effort,expense, and grief you've gone to, to give us the truth. I plan to check out everything on your pages and read your weekly update. I may have some questions later. Thanks

Name: Vince
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: N.Y. N.Y.
Time: 1998-09-29 05:42:53
Comments: This was really deep and very informative. The home page has e-mailed to everyone I know, people need to know how milk really does a body

Name: R.Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1998-09-26 22:01:06
Comments: Your recently posted challenge hits the mark dead on!!! Being familiar with the numbers recorded in "Bioactivity of Milk from bsT Treated Cows" by Groenewegan and the flights of fancy taken with those numbers in "Bovine Growth Hormone:Human Food Safety Evaluation" by Juskevich and Guyer, I have to laugh. Even now I can see Monsanto and FDA firing a $100 million into more "GOT PUS" ads in an effort at damage control and continued deception. Those two papers are the smoking guns of the rBST/rBGH issue.

Name: Adolfo Neto
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maceio-AL Brazil
Time: 1998-09-26 14:59:49
Comments: I have been here before. I asked about ghee (butter oil). I used to consume it, but not anymore. More than a month without butter (and without any dairy product, of course). It is difficult to swallow it when you know it contains pus. I have been checking the information you provide in your site and it is clear to me that you are telling the truth. Keep up the good work! Your interview on Sightings was very informative. One suggestion: why not translate at least some parts of your home page into Spanish or Portuguese?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Adolfo,

Translation is a great suggestion!

MILK-The Deadly Poison will soon be available in Spanish, French, Portuguese, German, Italian and Japanese. I am meeting with translators and distributors in Europe next week so that the ANTIDAIRY message will be available in a hundred different languages! (You should see a Chinese typwriter, hundreds of different figures...we'll have to invent something to depict: virus, pus, bacteria, powerful growth hormones, proteins that cause allergies, antibiotics, pesticides, fat and cholesterol!

Maybe we'll just use the symbol for milk...

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Linda
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Tacoma, WA
Time: 1998-09-23 08:28:32
Comments: I heard you today on KOMO radio during my home-bound commute. Interesting and convincing information. My sister is a registered dietician and I am anxious to have her review the information you present. She is currently still nursing her 18month old daughter. I have no problem accepting the suggestion to eliminate milk and milk products, although I think I'll still occasionally treat myself to a bit of ice cream. I'll be back to read more on your website and check the others from the dairy guys too. Thanks for making it easy to check out.

Name: Steve Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 1998-09-23 06:11:47
Comments: First off, whoever comes up with this shit and writes this web page: 1) Too much time on their hands 2) Is a friggin moron. Go out and get a degree in something and stop being one of the other 275 million useless Americans. Educate yourself, instead of coming up with bullshit....twit. Steve

Name: Wes Peterson
Website: CHECK OUT THIS PIC... GET THE HINT?!
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-09-23 04:29:53
Comments: It's too bad that people in general don't realize how UNnatural it is to drink the breast milk of another species, including after one has been weaned. We are not genetically adapted to drinking milk or eating products made from milk, from any animal. This is one reason it is so unhealthy and causes so many problems (obvious and subtle) in people. And then you factor into this the fact that the said milk/products made from it are denatured and toxic (i.e. derived from sick, literally diseased, literally poisoned cows; pasteurized, synthetic vitamin D added, etc.) and it's even worse. If people really want to drink milk, then they should get it fresh, like the calves do -- from a healthy cow, and fresh from the nipple, not from sick & poisoned cows, and not denatured, and not put into a container & left to sit. Just the fact it's in a container & sitting out in the refrigerator also makes it unnatural. Any nutritional value is oxidized. This is another factor to keep in mind. Once that milk hits the air, oxidation sets in. This doesn't happen if one gets it truly naturally - as in suckling it from the nipple! Sounds ridiculous, but it's true. And then the "reduced fat" milks/products - 2%, 1%, & skim - are all homogenized, which is not only unnatural, but surprise, surprise - also very harmful. This is because homogenization damages & perverts Xanthine Oxidase, warping it into a potent vessel-damaging free radical. It literally causes nicks in one's arteries. The body attempts to "fix" this by depositing such things as cholesterol, fat, minerals, and other things into these nicks. The cumulative result? Constricted blood vessels, and hardening of the arteries, among other problems. And we're not done yet! There are many different proteins in milk/dairy. Principle among these is casein, however there are literally dozens of others. Most of these are incompatible with our bodies (maybe because we're not cows?) Many of these are literally allergens and the immune system spends time attacking these allergens. This leads to weakened immunity and greater susceptibility to colds, flus, and disease in general. These allergenic proteins are also even a CAUSE of such "allergies" as those to cats' dander, pollen, and more. Casein: main protein in milk/dairy. Also, casein: a major ingredient in Elmer's wood glue! Truth about casein when ingested: major cause of excess mucus production. It's interesting to note that a great percentage of people with asthma have been cured simply by eliminating dairy products from the diet. I've written up some things for my Dad on this issue - the realities of dairy products, but he has turned a deaf ear to it. And it's too bad, because he himself has asthma. And guess what - the main reason for his asthma is big time excess mucus/phlegm production. He's constantly clearing his throat & very often has to blow his nose. He takes medication for this, otherwise he wouldn't be able to breathe. The medication apparently helps to keep his lungs from constricting. Unfortunately, like most medications, it's harmful. Not surprising seeing how "medications" are unnatural and are foreign substances to the human body. But anyway, his problem could be outright cured if he were to eliminate all dairy products and gluten grain products from his diet. Gluten grains (wheat, oats, rye) also produce excess mucus in people, since we are not genetically adapted to eating them. This is exacerbated when they are processed - i.e. cereals, breads, pasta, etc.. Once upon a time, I used to eat dairy products. Last summer (July '97 or so), I had some major mucus problems. It was to the point where I couldn't even swallow food -- the food would literally get stuck in my throat - in the thick, sticky mucus. Well, I was puzzled by this. I had some big time coughing episodes, wherein I literally choked on food, and tried to gargle water - which literally would get stuck on top of the food in my throat -- I couldn't even swallow water! A few times I panicked, because I couldn't swallow, and thus had restricted breathing as well. ...It just so happens I was eating my share of yogurt and drinking milk, and eating some cheese as well. Suffice to say, I no longer have any mucus problems whatsoever. I also used to have to blow my nose a lot. Lots of mucus. Not any more! And then we come to the ethical side of things...I've mentioned a few things regarding the health aspects. Few people realize that in order for a cow to produce milk, she must be pregnant. This is almost too obvious, really. After all, a human mother must be pregnant before she produces milk. This is just a basic law of nature. Cows don't just produce milk for no reason. They produce it when pregnant, so they can feed their baby calf(s). The dairy industry keeps cows artificially pregnant. This is where those hormones & fertility drugs come in to play. The residues of which, end up in people's dairy that they drink & eat. Cows are also normally peaceful creatures, however they are greatly irritated and get very anxious when they are locked up in an unnatural environment, such as which exists in the "modern dairy industry". Forget those pictures of cows grazing on grass on the farm. Nowadays, these cows are kept in stalls, chained up so they can hardly move, and used as "milk producing machines". As I mentioned, these cows can get very irritated by this, so guess what the brilliant "farmers" use on them? Tranquilizers. The residues of which end up in dairy products. And since these living conditions are so inhumane, and disease producing; and since these cows are overmilked, to the point of mastitis (udder infections), antibiotics are used on them. Over 80 different antibiotics are routinely innoculated to dairy cows. The residues of which end up in the resulting "product" for consumption. What does this promiscuous use of antibiotics in dairy cows lead to? Antibiotics resistant bacteria, of course. This means that people are drinking bacteria, such as tuberculosis germs (which most dairy cows have), and of which are not even destroyed by pasteurization. It has been shown that tuberculosis germs and other viruses can and do survive the process of pasteurization. Well, I could go on, there's much more to the reality of all this, and it's quite the sickening abomination. In this case for people, ignorance is NOT bliss. Oh, by the way, did you know that the "reduced fat" 2% milk has almost 40% of its calories as saturated fat?! The 2% label is deceptive, since it only measures by volume, and most of it is water. That 2% fat = 40% of the calories of one serving as saturated fat. Whole milk is about 3.5% fat, which is about 50% calories as saturated fat. There are also reasons why I cannot "endorse" the consumption of soy milk and soy products. The bottom line is that we are not genetically adapted to eating soy products. And there are other factors, which are quite serious, that I think you should take a look at. Here are some links to check out: "Concerns Regarding Soybeans" http://www.rheumatic.org/soy.htm "Are Soy Products Dangerous?" http://gerson.org/soy.html -- Wes

Name: Donald Grbac
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pittsburgh
Time: 1998-09-23 03:11:06
Comments: Robert, the country will be indebted to you greatly for your tenacious work on this milk issue. In our house, we haven't consumed milk since I accidently stumbled on your web site in July. I've noticed a significant decrease in digestive problems in my case. I've also cut out most meat from my diet after reading a couple of health books by MD's on the bad digestive impact of animal protein in general. For the most part, my Wife is with me on this. However, we have her 90 year old Mother living with us, and my Wife says I can't just cut her off from the things she enjoys, like bratwurst, knockwurst, and cheese. Her Mother is frail and won't eat much if she does not enjoy it. Raw vegetables are out of the question for her Mother; everything must be cooked softly for her to chew. I was kicking myself last week when I printed out your schedule (before you had it removed) and noticed you were to be on our local stations, KDKA radio and WPXI-TV on September 10th, Friday. I only noticed the schedule on Saturday - too late. Normally, WPXI-TV has the Leeza show on at 11 AM; were you on Leeza? Ouch - I am still kicking myself. I would also like to kick (BIG TIME) the people who were trying to interfere with your schedule. The evil demonstrated by these folks will catch up with them. I guess sending the schedule through the mailing list is also unworkable. I have purchased your book and I am about half way through it. The amount of corruption you documented in Washington is mind boggling! Eventually, public pressure will build to the point that someone will have to address this issue. I have written to my Representatives, and I have been spreading the word. Don

Name: Laurie Heron
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Colorado
Time: 1998-09-22 10:34:06
Comments: I've been here and done this before. I had the oportunity to discuss some issues with you, which I found fascinating and stimulating. However, your letter to the AD Coalition today disturbed me, and I wanted to let you know about it. Your comments that Flo-Jo died because of milk consumption seemed a tremendous leap. It is so difficult to diagnose the causes of a disease, and there hasn't even been an autopsy as of yet. It seems to me that your zealousness occasionally gets in the way of your sensitivity and your usually clear logic. I thought I would post this concern in a public forum to give you the opportunity to explain your position in more depth. Perhaps then I would understand better. (Please don't respond that the link between milk and heart disease is clear. I realize that. It's just the assertion that this case of heart disease was solely because of milk consumption that I have a problem with.)

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Laurie,

Flo Jo was a great American and I loved her along with millions of other admiring Americans.

Flo Jo took money from the dairy industry and painted that silly pustache on her lip and I disliked her for that.

Ninety-five percent of African Americans cannot tolerate lactose. The primary protein in milk is casein, the most allergenic substance found in our foods. Casein is a tenacious glue. Casein is used to hold a paper label to a bottle of beer and casein is used to hold together the wood in furniture. There are five-hundred-thousand kids in New York with asthma. Most are African-American and live below the federal government's poverty line. They get free breakfast and lunch, courtesy of our USDA and the major portion of that free meal program consists of milk and dairy containing this allergenic asthma-producing protein.

Flo Jo was betraying her own race by posing for that ad.

Larry King also wears a milk pustache. (I call 'em pustaches because our FDA allows 750 million pus cells in a liter of milk). King had triple bypass surgery and endorses a garlic powder which he claims lowers cholesterol.

The average American, today, from all milk and dairy products will consume the equivalent cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon. That adds up to the same cholesterol in 19,345 slices of bacon this year any by age 38 (FLO JO was 38) the same cholesterol contained in over 735,000 slices of bacon.

During the Korean War American soldiers who died in battle were autopsied and found to have athersclerosis, butter-like placquing in their arteries. These men were in perfect shape on the outside but a mess on the inside. Heart disease is so common that FLO JO'S placquing will be dismissed as normal.

Doctors performing autopsies might not look at FLO JO's lungs. I recall an autopsy study done in Brescia, Italy...53 SIDS patients showed violent histological reactions to something... their last meal, perhaps...milk-based formula.

FLO JO was deceived by the dairy industry. She most certainly would not have done those milk ads had she known how sick it makes African Americans.

By doing these ads FLO JO innocently became the dairy industry's dupe and deceived her own people.

By consuming cheese and butter and ice cream and yogurt FLO JO innocently added dangerous animal fats and cholesterol to her arteries.

I stand by my statement: MILK DOES NOT DO THE BODY GOOD. FLO JO paid for that ignorance with her life.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Alaska
Time: 1998-09-22 01:46:17
Comments: Mr. Cohen,(P) Hello again! i came across your page on my address bar and i decided to drop back in, and i must say i like what you have done to your page, especially the challenges issued. Have you had any takers? I think if Wayne stops by he could offer you one. But that is beside the point my main reason for writing this is to ask Lita Muhammed ,ref 557, how she could stand calling her own daughter chubby, and having been heavier set myself when i was younger i know that "chubby" is another word for "FAT" i was also curious as to why she was making such a big deal of this if her daughter is still so young. My own sister is not very thin but she is only twelve, and does not drink much milk, does that mean that my mother should start giving her powdered milk or rice milk? and the link to being asthmatic, a good friend of mine is asthmatic and is in better shape then i. if some one would post some reasons... no, GOOD reasons why these things are so i would apreciate it.

Name: webmaster
Website: Help End AIDS Lies - HIV is actually a harmless retrovirus and the causes of AIDS are NOT HIV
Referred by: From a Friend
From: San Diego, CA
Time: 1998-09-21 20:54:03
Comments: We have found at HEAL that the causes of AIDS are not what is mistakenly labeled "HIV". The actual causes are from drug abuses, stress, and poor dietary choices that can include problems with dairy products. A HIV positive test result may be even appear due to reactions in blood proteins due to milk allergies which stimulate antibody production.

Name: schwanke
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: astoria OR
Time: 1998-09-20 11:43:49
Comments: do more research. should be more information out there. tell more people.

Name: The-MIB
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: won't say
Time: 1998-09-20 04:43:36
Comments: Well let me tell you my story, I've been a heavy milk drinker all my life ( how I've lived this long is anybody's guess ) The Day I went down to DQ for a dipped cone made me see the light allright no sooner had I finished eating the cone, then the taste of blood filled my mouth so I spat ( I was outside at the time ) down on the pavement BLOOD , MY BLOOD for god sake not to mention mucus to the MAX, since then I got my self tested I'M lac intolerant in a BIG way, I'LL NEVER TOUCH ANYTHING FROM A MOO'ER AGAIN!!!!!!

Name: Ronetta Engram
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Time: 1998-09-18 02:35:17
Comments: I am only a senior at Woodward High School, but my econmics teacher informed me on the topic then she showed me a video of a 4 minute interview with the author of "Milk the Deadly Poision" and that encouraged me to log on to the internet and learn more about it.

Name: Bonnie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-09-17 10:47:32
Comments: Mr Cohen, - just checked your schedule, and I noticed all is on the cancel end. As I have alot of friends across the country, I wanted to let them know when you would be around. They would really like to talk to you. Converts, I have no idea, Just something to talk about, and then some. All out there, are good people, and the ability to listen, and maybe, you have to power to show them the ways of the good life. Who knows - chuckle. Bye the way, do you have any medical problems ??? - chuckle. I am sorry, but, you are interesting - and I know you like the thoughts of the mind. So get my friends, let them know of the "MilK" e Issue". Get it ??

Name: Wes
Website: Some meat realities - CLICK ME!
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-09-13 06:13:55
Comments: Is it just me, or is the eating of muscles & organs derived from animal corpses ("MEAT") and drinking of calves' food (Cows' milk) ridiculous beyond description? Sickening beyond description is a good way of putting it. In your double whopper with cheese, you have a whopping load of ground-up, dead, putrefying flesh from dead, sick, poisoned, diseased animals, along with an abomination of pus created/derived from cows' milk. And we wonder why Americans are so sick & devitalized, why the hospitals & pharmaceutical companies are such BIG business, and why there is so much crime, chaos, and general upheavel, sickness, and turmoil in this world of ours? Can't we see the connection? Time to WAKE UP.

Name: Stephen P. Szwed
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: University of Miami
Time: 1998-09-13 00:34:53
Comments: I saw your book and was excited beyond words. I've been trying to tell people about the dangers of dairy for about a year. Unfortunetly I haven't made much of an impact. Your book changes everything. I was just wondering how one would go about scheduling you for an appearence at my university? The student body desperatly needs an education. Thanks. Steve

Name: Gary Haithcock
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pompano Beach, FL
Time: 1998-09-13 00:07:24
Comments: I heard Mr. cohen on WAFG, Ft. Lauderdale this week during a phone interview with John Vandenhover. I obtained your URL from the radio interview. I found Mr. Cohen's comments informative and interesting, since I exhibit some of the milk-related symptoms he spoke about. I would like some more info on Lactaid brand milk. It has a 60-day shelf life and I am curious to know what they use to attain this. Thank You, Gary Haithcock GaryReeves@AOL.com

Name: Clarette Buttke
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: California
Time: 1998-09-12 12:02:46
Comments: I just want you to know that your so called facts are not entirely true. You obviously have a biased opinion. I would just like to know why you have devoted so much time to trying to destroy the image of milk? I have some facts for you that hold the wholesome image of milk to be true. I am the fifth generation in a family who has been in the dairy business since the 1880's. Every member of my family has consumed milk their whole lives and I'll have you know that there has not been one person diagnosed with cancer or who has passed away because of cancer. My immediate family has drank raw milk since we were children. Raw milk means that it has not been pasturized or homogenized. Another fact for you is that most of my family members who have passed away have lived to be between 85 and 95 years old. Their cause of death has not been health related but rather just "old age." Being in the dairy business is a way of life. A life that I truly enjoy and cherish. Your harsh words towards a way of life that my family was formed on are quite disturbing. I don't know what it is that you do for a living, but I'm sure that I would never try to discredit it like you have done to the dairy industry. And in closing I think that your facts are not really facts at all but rather false assumptions made on your part to try to destroy the dairy industry.

Name: Dan Klatt
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Manitowoc, Wisconsin, USA
Time: 1998-09-12 11:03:09
Comments: Hi Robert, I first became interested in your book when I saw the Sheboygan (WI) Press editorial of about four months ago that was written more to make you out to be a quack and to endear themselves with the farming community and everyone who enforces the status quo. I can recognize such cow manure because I was the assistant managing editor of its sister publication in Manitowoc, WI, for four years. At that time, however, I worked as corporate communications director for Paul Stitt, who founded Natural Ovens of Manitowoc. He and his wife told me about how harmful dairy products are. However both of them eat meat. I noticed your bio said you eat no animal flesh. I've been a Veg-Head since April 1989, but only vegan since this past April. I feel great, but my mom is quite worried. She read an article that said people who don't get proteins found only in meat or milk will develop irreversible nerve damage in several years. Can you please comment? She believes Paul, a biochemist, fed me a bunch of crap. You come across as quite thorough in your debunking. Me? I felt like I was about five or six years ahead of the curve in 1989 when I gave up eating meat. At that time, my choices in restaurants were primarily grilled cheese sandwiches or vegetables or cheese deep fried in fat. Now one or several vegetarian items are the rule, and not the exception. With the advances in communication over the last two years, I predict I won't need to wait another five or so years before the mainstream catches up, although the special interests in the government, universities and agricultural fields are well-funded and powerful -- not to mention quite greedy. Paul says he never talks in public about the dangers of dairy because his business is surrounded by farmers, whom he said have high-powered rifles and aren't afraid to use them. He said point blank that he fears for his life! I admire you for doing the right and courageous thing for standing up for the truth, no matter what your personal consequences are!! (I might be that bold myself, but I don't always think and act rationally.) Thanks very much for being so strong, Dan Klatt P.S. I forgot to mention that perhaps you would find value in learning about good fats, such as olive oil, and omega-3s, which people get far too few. The lack of the good fats actually causes heart disease, cancer, diabetes, hypertension, obesity and other serious health problems. The free reports, omega3@bestautoresponders.com consist of four newspaper stories I wrote on the topic. Consider it food for thought, and promote it on your site if you feel compelled.

Name: Patrick L Spence
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Willow Bend Dairy Farm
Time: 1998-09-11 02:34:08
Comments: When I read your page I was very disturbed by the information that I found in it. I am a student at SUNY Cobleskill, college of agriculture and technology, and I decided to do a little research on your information, and I hope that all of your readers can read this too. Almost everything stated on your homepage is false. There are no antibiotics in milk sold in stores. All milk is tested before it is processed, and even if the slightest thing is wrong with it, it is dumped at the expense of the farm that produced it. There is no puss in milk, cows with mastitis (what you pieces of shit call puss) are treated for the infection and milked into a separate tank. Also all of the items found in milk that you stated to be harmful, are all things that the human body needs to stay alive and healthy. It is also a well known fact that dairy products are one of the world's most perfect foods. I suggest that you check your references, if you really have any other than a bunch of rabbit food eating animal rights activists talking out of their asses. I have proper references to back me up. DO YOU ? I'd be interested to recieve a response to this, to see what other kinds of bull shit you can pull out of your ass.

Name: Lita Muhammad
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: DC
Time: 1998-09-11 00:15:15
Comments: Thank you, Mr. Cohen. My 11-year-old daughter is chubby and my 8 year-old daughter is thin. However, the thin one eats the most! She loves vegetables, chicken, fish and fruit, but hates milk. The chubby drinks milk but does not eat much food! The doctor said that the chubby one is like me and the thin one like her father. Finally a few weeks ago my friend told me about Rice Dream, a milk substitute from rice. My daughter loves it and now I no longer buy milk. She has begun to slim down after only about five weeks! Now I stumble upon your website! Thank you for explaining the unexplainable! Did I mention that my daughters were also diagnosed as "asthmatics?" Any connection? Whenever I get some money, I will purchase your book! In the meantime, I will certainly recommend it! Peace.

Name: X Brian X
Website: XxX Detroit x Killa x Crew XxX
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Detroit, MI
Time: 1998-09-10 09:49:28
Comments: Hey, love the site!! i liked how you offered people the choice to compare your facts with those of the people who drink milk (www.whymilk.com). I loved the info! Go Vegan!!

Name: Fell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NC
Time: 1998-09-10 05:37:36
Comments: I was very pleased to find an anti milk page! A few years ago I was worried about not getting enough milk-because I could not digest it. I was very happy to learn the truth about milk! I have also become vegan and I hope many more people will become vegan too...I feel so much more healthy and happy!

Name: Toni Sym
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: London
Time: 1998-09-09 23:46:41
Comments: Although I've known for a while that cow's milk is NOT the best food for humans and I kept very much clear of it, an article in Nexus Magazine has prompted me to give it up completely (I must admit I was a bit of a chocaholic but that's all changed now). I do miss cheese though and wonder if sheep or goat's milk is just as bad. Also, are the sheep and goats as badly treated as the cows? I've seen what modern dairy farming does to cows and it's just awful. I've been a vegatarian for years but now am vegan. Best of luck in getting people to understand the dangers - at least if one is informed, one can make an educated decision. Regards Toni

Name: Daniela Tudoran
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Boca Raton , FL
Time: 1998-09-09 05:07:23
Comments: I'm ordering the book. Sounds interesting and I've been hearing this from way too many different sources to ignore!

Name: Wes Peterson
Website: Check out these 2 meat-related articles!
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-09-09 05:02:54
Comments: The human race is rapidly degenerating. People are truly human guinea pigs. The ingestion of dead, putrefying bodies (meat), and calf's food (milk) from sick, poisoned, diseased cows, is truly an abomination in many ways. What we eat affects us not only in the physical sense, but in the emotional, mental, and spiritual sense as well. The foods we partake of, have very significant psycho-spiritual effects on us. Since domesticated animals are victims, one takes on a victim consciousness with every sip of milk or every nibble of cheese. Compound this with the eating of dead bodies, wherein the carcass (meat) contains innumerable poisons and disease factors, coupled with the dense energy vibration along with the adrenaline the animal releases prior to being killed, as well as the fear and pain energies, and we begin to catch a glimpse into some underlying reasons as to why our so-called "civilization" is becoming so abominable. What most people view as "normal" are really ABNORMAL, and vice versa. If you really think that milk drinking and dairy eating are natural, then I urge you to find the nearest cow, get down on all fours, and suckle its teat. Can't do it? Then why are you indirectly doing it, via getting it artificially - as in artificially suckled by a machine, pasteurized (cooked/destroyed), poisons added (before and after), packaged, and finally shipped for your consumption? Has the human race become a race of calves? No? Then why drink/eat the food of CALVES, which by the way, cannot live any longer than 6 weeks at the most if fed their own mother's milk after having it pasteurized! Got milk? -- Got mucus? Got chemicals? Got hormones? Got allergenic proteins? Got saturated fat (2% milk has almost 40% of calories as saturated fat)? Got damaged arteries (homogenization alters Xanthine Oxidase, perverting it into a very blood vessel-damaging free radical)? Got bacteria, viruses, disease, pus, ad naseam? Got victim consciousness? Got enough rennin & lactase to digest these non-foods? No? Then STOP DRINKING MILK AND EATING DAIRY PRODUCTS. The calcium in milk/dairy is almost 100% UN-usable. Pasteurization and a high level of phosphorus in the milk help to ensure that, while the accompanying high protein content helps to ensure bone calcium LOSS. Be aware that the cows must be kept pregnant in order to produce milk. Catch the hint? The dairy industries are very cruel indeed. These cows are innoculated with tranquilizers to keep them "calm" and sedated, as they are abused and treated "like meat", which is what they end up as, after all, within 4-5 years, as they are turned into "ground chuck" as their milking job is complete! They are kept artificially inseminated. Guess what happens to the calf when born. Ever hear of veal? The calf is locked into a stall so small & narrow that it cannot move, while being fed an anemia producing diet, and innoculated with countless chemicals to 'fatten' it up and stimulate growth. Most calves have diseases and are blind prior to being slaughtered -- veal cacciatore! People call these things FOOD? Unreal...no words to describe this insanity. Whew!

Name: Elyse
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-09-09 00:55:38
Comments: Hi Robert.... I will be in touch soon as I have enough free time to chat but I wanted to quickly tell Jim the "relocated Aussie" that breakfast cereal tastes just fantastic with Soy on top (this is new to me also)! I use carob soy for added interest and flavor (especially on nonsweetened cereals) I love it on Barbaras's wheat biscuits for breakfast. And since I'm an ice cream lover (yepp...sorry! but soon to be "former") I've been trying to find a way to cut out the Breyers... well just the other day my son and I bought these ice cream sandwhiches from our local health food place ...they're called "Tofutti Cuties"... well let me just say for the public record "Bye bye Breyers!" =) Elyse

Name: Jan Morgan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Biddeford, Maine
Time: 1998-09-08 08:53:04
Comments: I found you in an article in Nexus magazine. Way to go! :)

Name: Bonnie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Plymouth, Ma
Time: 1998-09-08 03:06:29
Comments: Mr Cohen, tried to sign in this book, about a week ago, but somehow it didn't work.How interesting about the Pilgrim Ladies who lasted that first year. Something to say about the single ladies of the ship. Bye Mr Robert Cohen

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Bonnie,

The history taught in our schools is often a poor reflection of truth. The first winter 15 of the 18 Pilgrim mothers perished but only one of the 8 single ladies died. Pilgrims were so desperate that they stole the seed corn for next years crop from the war-like Abenaki Indians. Some first impression, huh? Pilgrim men must have busily traded favors...While their own wives starved these single ladies probably ate quite well. The Pilgrims starved because they sold their butter before sailing from England. One-hundred Pilgrims had churned 85,000 pounds of milk into 4,000 pounds of butter. That would have made the difference between starvation and survival. In subsequent years, dairy cows were brought to America to supply fat...in the form of concentrated milk...butter... to survive the harsh New England winter.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: TRISHA ACOSTA
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: POMONA CA
Time: 1998-09-07 10:26:29
Comments: GREAT SITE, LOTS OF INFO. THANK YOU!

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada, formerly Australia
Time: 1998-09-06 05:00:09
Comments: To Mr NOT MILK!! Mr Not Milk, first of all, I congratulate you on a great site that looks nice, downloads fast and has given me ideas for some future website design :-) Secondly, your article in Nexus really tested my open-mindedness. We are all ready to suspect the gov't the FDA, The Labour and Liberal Parties for us Aussies out there, and other high money making companies. But never did I think I would suspect the dairy industry. I being an aussie (now in canada) and having searched for my Nexus Magazine out here months ago, looked at the cover after having read the rest of the juicy stuff and was shocked to notice "Modern milk's new Dangers" and my first thought was NOT MILK (is this how the webtitle came bout?) But putting my open-mindedness to the test, I read the article in about an hour, and I just sat at the kitchen table mouth open say wow... it makes so much sense as to why our bodies cant function on the new antibiotics. Thanks mr Notmilk Man, for such a great and well researched article. I have to comment on the guy from Adelaide (ozzie ozzie ozzie oi oi oi) who made some great comments on the milk thing too...... I totally agree with you. I found that the milk my grandfather produced with his 5 cows for his household tasted better than this rubbish you find in the cartons on the store. I only have milk on my breakfast cereal now, so I guess I have less than 150 mils a day... (hot chocolate does not need milk) Thanks again and thanks for the ideas on webpage design.. my wife thinks its SLICK!!!! Jim relocated aussie

Name: Paul
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-09-05 15:13:15
Comments: Wow! Thanks for letting me know about all these hormones in milk, now I'm going to drink even more as it is a VERY costeffective alternative to acquiring them separately. MMMmmm... More milk, please!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Paul,

Most people, armed with the knowledge that milk contains 59 different bioactive hormones, become either concerned for their health and safety or go into denial and then violently oppose the scientific evidence. You have taken human depravity to a new level, so, bon apetit, Paul!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: David Virden
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Seattle, WA
Time: 1998-09-04 21:06:44
Comments: After reviewing your guest book, it shocked me to learn how tenaciously people cling to their beliefs in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I have been off dairy products for nearly 10 years (at the recommendation of a healthcare provider) and have experienced numerous benefits from eliminating it from my diet. THANK YOU, Mr. Cohen, for spreading the word. The world needs more people like you in it and I am grateful for the work you are doing!

Name: Elyse Young
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NJ
Time: 1998-09-03 16:08:12
Comments: Hi! One other thing Have you ever looked into other dangerous practices which similarly gain approval by the FDA in favor of promoting dangerous money-making businesses which poison our bodies and our earth (cows also polute quite heavily, the environment with their feces and "runoff".) Another industry that has the FDA's endorsement of which is an extreme concern of mine is that of the pharmeceutical companies producing (besides harmful drugs/meds) vaccines. What is totally ludicrous is how the FDA does not conduct it's own studies but relies on the info being GIVEN to them by the very company which stands to gain tons of money by favorable reportings on testing etc. I cannot understand why the FDA even exists... IMO... when I hear on the news now "the FDA has now approved blah blah blah" I have to laugh out in utter sarcasm and fear... I say to myself... "yeah! and so what does it mean that the FDA approved such and such..." to me it translates to another dangerous substance being tested on the American people at the possible expense of lives. I thought we were supposed to be comforted by the thought that such an organization such as the FDA was there to protect the American public...not so. I think once anyone opens their eyes... they can see that the FDA is certainly not functioning in the best interests of the public. I'd like to hear your take on the vaccine industry if you have any opinions since this is all basically related... the bottom line is money in both situations... I'm curious to know what you think... and once again...Thank you!.......Elyse ps...is ORGANIC milk any better than the Frankenfoods milk commonly found on store shelves? I realize the IG-f problem may still exist becuase it occurs naturally in cows...but what about cows who don't have the "factor" multiplied so many times in their milk supply because they are not injected with hormones and antibiotics.

Name: Elyse Young
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NJ
Time: 1998-09-03 15:37:05
Comments: Hi! More and more we are turning to "organic" soy products. Something new to me is buying soy drink by the case and actually consuming quite a bit of it daily in place of other unhealthy drinks such as overly sweet juices and (now that I know) milk. Is this a good alternative? or am I drinking something else that may become a problem? I also know that if you don't consume "organic" soy products that most any "other" soy products is sure to be a product of Monsantos...better known as "Round-Up Ready" soy beans... so this is why I stick to and pay the price for organic (to avoid further poisoning of my own and my families bodies). Is this true? and am I safe with the organics? I sure hope so... seems these days the only thing safe to consume is paper.. and even that contains dioxin from bleaching etc. I have also read that the phytoestrogens in Soy is a good thing especially for menopausal women. I'm glad to have learned more about IG-f. I had learned a little about it in A & P in college... I didn't realize that the IG-f in cows and humans is nearly the same and is the cause of increase in cancers especially breast! I have to admit I love Ice Cream but will be looking to consume alternatives to it. Of course my husband who refuses to believe any issue such as these that I bring up to him will make it harder on me to eliminate these foods altogether... but I will do my best. I am wondering if you do speaking tours? and if so...will you be visiting the NJ area? Thank you for this wealth of information... I will surely pass as much on to all my friends. My family will think I'm plain nuts and so ... I will not waste my breath. Best to you and your daughters... although living an "enlightened" life can be difficult... I know your daughters will be most grateful one day when they are truly old enough to appreciate your efforts. "Got good health?" =)) Sincerely, Elyse Young

Name: Peter Brouwer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Adelaide , Australia
Time: 1998-09-03 14:54:59
Comments: Howdy. Im a 29 yr old Aussie male that had already done a little research into the lie's bandied about by so-called health experts. I found your site by reading the magazine , Nexus. There's not much to add to your brilliant summary of the dangers of dairy in humans diets is there? About the only thing Id like people to think about, that are still unsure of the validity of these facts , is , do cows themselves drink milk ? No !! Why ? They get their calcium and protein from eating foods , just like adult humans should. Of course calfs need their mothers milk during infancy , but even calfs are weened off of their mothers milk , as it is unnecessary for them to keep consuming it. Human babies are supplied the same intelligent natural source of these nutrients in this stage, by their HUMAN mothers and then , they are weened off of it . There's a reason for this, nature decided we did not need milk after a certain point in our development , so mothers stop making it ! If human mothers kept making milk until the death of their babies ( if at all possible) , that to me would be a good indicator that we , as humans , need milk to sustain ourselves. Adult cows don't touch the stuff ,so why are we led to believe that we as humans , need something produced by another animal for the rest of our lives to sustain a healthy body ? Because there is money in it. No other reason. Do you see other animals drinking the stuff by choice ? Of course not ! The whole argument could be solved by stopping people making money out of it , and then see how eager they are to stick their hands up saying it is an important part of a humans diet ! As just another animal roaming the planet , we need our heads read , if we think we were not supplied with enough of the valuable nutrients that OUR mothers milk provides for the early stages of development. The other point Id like to make , which is purely scientific , is that , if you study the animals that DO benifit from eating other animals protein products ( i.e. Lions are one that comes to mind) , you will find that their system is designed to make the most of this form of nutrition by having a small digestive tract and a set of teeth that are designed to make eating this stuff easier. We as humans , have a much longer digestive system , and therefore , by the time any animals products are able to move down our system , it is so off , that it creates the smells that we all know and hate ( sorry to go there :-) ) . Not only that , but do we have the huge teeth that these animals have ? No ! We have a system that is designed for eating fruits and vegetables , in that our hands are designed for picking both of these , and our digestive tracts are designed to keep this food in our system until such time as we have benifitted from it ! That in itself is a huge pointer to the fact we have no place eating their flesh products , or drinking their milk in this case . Ask yourself this. Are the men in white coats , smarter than the intelligence of a babie being produced in nine months without involvement from doctors , dieticians and the like ? Are they that smart , that they can suggest a better way to provide nutrition for this baby ? I dont think so . its been happening a lot longer without their intervention , and more than likely , a lot more successfully ! I take my hat off to you mate , keep up the awe-inspiring work ! Anyone with a serious argument against these facts , is actually fooling themselves , because there isn't one ! Nature needs no improvement. Id like to meet the person/people that consider themselves smarter than nature. P.S. I have to give some credit for what I have said , to Harvey and Marilyn Diamond. Thanks guys , you educated me well. :-)

Name: AutumnLeaf
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: NSW, Australia
Time: 1998-09-01 08:00:03
Comments: Hi, I read you article in the Aug/Sept 98 issue of Nexus and was thrilled to visit your web site, you have some great infor here, I believe the public have a right to be informed. I went to the whymilk.com site to see what they had to say and did their little quiz - problem is most of their multiple choice answers where so 'stupid' choosing their only 'sane' answer was they one they wanted you to choose - funny that!!! Keep up the good work, I dont think the dairy industry is as bad in Australia as the USA - yet.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Autumn Leaf,

Perhaps it is time for the ANTIDAIRY response to the milk industry quiz! See next weeks column...ideas are beginning to form! :>)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Gordon Scoggan
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Walls, MS
Time: 1998-08-31 19:08:11
Comments: Heard you on radio in Memphis TN

Name: CDerrington
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Arizona
Time: 1998-08-30 12:01:50
Comments: I heard Mr. Cohen on KFYI radio 8-28-98. I'm happy to hear more on this subject and I will be looking for your book. I've heard for years that milk is the number one "junk food". It will be great to have documented information to present to those unbelievers. Thanks!

Name: Wendy
Website: Sybarite Shepherds
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 1998-08-29 10:05:43
Comments: finally for years I have said that cow's milk is good for baby cows only and that the dairy industry is nothing more than a ploy to make dairy farmers money......keep up the good work thumbs up from me

Name: Marta
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kauai, Hawaii
Time: 1998-08-29 07:04:13
Comments: Dear Mr Cohen: I bought your book today, read the first chapter and skimmed through others. It looks like my daddy was right - milk is for baby cows. We never had milk or cheese in the house when I was growing up. I gradually acquired a taste for some cheese, but still don't care for milk and never used it other than as an ingredient in recipes. A few years ago I was tested and diagnosed with asthma. My doctor has recently advised me to discontinue all milk products, but he never mentioned a word about reading labels and eliminating casein as well. After reading some of your book, it looks like I will have to be more careful. It is such a relief to be able to breathe normally since I threw out all the milk products. My biggest problem is learning how to cook interesting meals. I wanted to make an "all natural" soy cheese lasagne and now you say that the casein in the commercially available soy cheese is bad for me? Virtually all manufacturers of soy cheese put a small percentage of casein in the product. Is the casein in soy cheese really the bad stuff you talk about in your book? I'm looking forward to reading the rest of your book. Perhaps most of my questions will be answered there. Keep up the good work. I look forward to visiting this website frequently to see what's new in the NOTMILK world. Aloha, Marta

Name: Spike
Website: Detroit Ska and Punk Online Zine Thingy
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Detroit
Time: 1998-08-29 01:12:12
Comments: Wow cool....some people who actually think like me. Milk is gross.....why should you drink something that has to be sanitized in that manner? Milk goes bad...why would you want to drink something that...gets rotten and icky? I've basically been deprived of milk my whole life and i'm glad. I grew up thinking I was odd because i was the only kid who didn't drink milk. I was supposedly lactose intolerant...but i guess i outgrew that. Milk tastes bad anyway. blehhh! If it's morally right to drink cow's milk...why isn't it morally right to drink any other animal's milk? (with the exception of goat) what makes it ok to take the milk from this cow? if it's so right, then why dont they just take it from cats and dogs? Ok enough of that. I have a cool Not Milk! sticker on my bass guitar....bye bye

Name: Nick Allen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-08-28 05:37:55
Comments: Keep up the excellent work.I hope you will do some interviews in the UK sometime. We really need to hear about this as most people here still think milk is an extremely healthy product. I have been interested in this subject for quite a while and am impressed with your site. I have found many illnesses relating to dairy products as well by looking in libraries and book stores as well as on the internet and my findings confirm what you have said on your site (eg diabetes, osteoporosis, asthma, arthritis, catar, heart disease, lactose intollerance). The only information I have been unable to find is a link between milk and cancer although I did find information on IGF1 and its role in cancer development and that milk contains IGF1. I wonder if you know of any research showing IGF1 levels in blood increasing after ingesting milk or dairy products. I understand how it is possible by milk buffering the pH in the stomach so that the proteins aren't broken down into their amino acids but can these proteins and hormones get into the blood stream?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT

Dear Nick,

Scientific research is expensive! Monsanto submitted 200 studies to the FDA while trying to gain approval for their genetically engineered version of the bovine growth hormone. The total cost of that research exceeded $500 million dollars.

No human research was performed. In order to produce perfect human research we would have to "SACRIFICE" the subjects and then analyze their tissues and organs. We do not do that in America, although such research was performed 50 years ago under Dr. Mengele and his Third Reich colleagues. Instead, we use laboratory animals such as the laboratory rat.

Rats are not people, and people are not rats (except for a few exceptions at our Food and Drug Administration). Rats act differently than humans do, and vice versa. Take thalidomide, for example. This poison caused deformities in human babies, yet never caused a problem in the laboratory rat. Thalidomide was approved because we found it to be safe. We continue to ignore previous examples and continue to improve on Mother Nature.

Live animal research is totally unnecessary! Research is performed to demonstrate that a drug is safe for humans. When no effects are observed on lab animals, the drug is hailed as effective. When pharmaceutical companies find problems, those contraindications are often ignored because they conclude that the rats are not human. In my book I detail enormous scientific fraud.

There are ways to measure IGF-I but it would be quite costly and dangerous. IGF-I could have a marker attached to it...a radioactive marker such as tritiated-hydrogen. The route of IGF-I could then be measured as it travels through the body. In order to measure the survival of this protein, many subjects would have to be used and they would have to be killed at various intervals and their organs and tissues analyzed. There are (expensive) machines called scintillation spectrometers which count the amounts of radioactive-IGF-I and register a count of each protein in each tissue sample.

Modern science believes that protein hormones do not survive digestion.

Must we measure the actual amounts or do we simply answer the question as to whether digestive enzymes break down these hormones? The Food and Drug administration and the National Institutes of Health and World Health Organization, as well as the Journal of the American Medical Association all believe that these hormones are desroyed by digestion.

I believe that they survive. (It's very lonely and often frustrating to be constantly yelling, "The Emperor is not wearing any clothes!")

I submit this to you and all ignorant men and women of science:

Does human breastfeeding not work? Does a nursing human mother not pass on anything to her infant? That infant has the same powerful acids which adults have. Medical journals are filled with thousands of studies demonstrating that breastfeeding is beneficial because it does indeed pass on these proteins, intact to the nursing infant.

If breastfeeding works, then so does drinking milk from cows. Both milk produts buffer gastric acidity to insure the survival of the components so contained. Both milk products contain powerful growth hormones.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Larry Boehm
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Elsberry, MO
Time: 1998-08-27 01:17:12
Comments: I heard your interview this morning on KMOX in St. Louis and became interested. Charles Brennen seemed to imply that you arefull of crap, which is good enough for me to think that youmay be on to something. I look forward to reading your book.Thanks

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Larry,

Charles Brennen is a great radio host. By "attacking" my message, and providing a forum of discussion, he created a great radio show. At one point, there were 8 minutes of commercials with no break. The show was so interesting, so fast paced that I doubt he lost many listeners during that interlude. That's the secret of radio or TV...fill the time in between commmercials with a subject interesting enough to capture the viewers.

Time ran away from the 40 minute interview. Please call Charles and tell him you want more! Operators at our toll-free number received over three hundred calls as a result of that show!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: David D. Pierce
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: Atlanta, Georgia
Time: 1998-08-25 03:00:57
Comments: I glad to see someone telling the truth. I actually saw your web address on the back of the book. We have been trying to inform many about this for awhile. Your book is extremely comprehensive. I thought I knew quite alot about this, and then you shed mega light on it. I thank you and praise God for you to go forth with such an extreme project. I will quote a qutoe from the book, "The public will believe anything, so long as it is not founded on truth." So sad, yet so true. Thanks again!

Name: Mandy
Website: The Passport People
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: originally Monroe, LA, now in Houston, TX
Time: 1998-08-24 23:13:52
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I think you are doing a terrific job, and I completely support your cause. My husband and I are both vegan, and we are raising our four month old daughter to be the same. She's had nothing but mom's milk since day one, and has never had to see a doctor. Do you think you'll make it down to Houston to lecture any time soon? I would love to hear you speak.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT

Dear Mandy,

I probably will not be visiting Texas this year but I plan a trip to the Lone Star State next Spring. In the meantime, "MILK-The Deadly Poison" has just been put on tape (three hours, two cassettes) and it will retail for $16.95 but is available to readers of this site for $10. If you are interested in ordering the book on tape, call 1-888-NOT-MILK.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Lucy Rohde
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Melbourne/ Australia
Time: 1998-08-23 11:38:19
Comments: Hi I read your article in Nexus and was impressed and surprised and taken milk out of our diet, but who ever I talk to argues back and I can't replay. I switched to Soya milk. Now people that I talked to say that Soya beans have the same problem . Viruses, bacteria, pestecides and more are used as well on the Soya beans. Is that True? I would like to be able to respond to them but have not the resorces.Can you answer me please. Thank you, Lucy

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Lucy,

You have good instincts and your friends are correct too! There are pesticides in foods. Unless you buy organic or grow your own, you really have to TRUST that you are not eating dangerous toxins. One such toxin, ATRAZINE, is the subject of great debate in the state of Vermont. One ice cream product, BEN & JERRY'S, uses milk from cows who eat feeds inundated with this and other toxic insecticides.

The higher up one goes on the food chain, the more concentrated these toxic chemicals congregate in the tissues and organs. If a bug eats a plant containing a dangerous pesticide and a mouse eats that bug and then an eagle eats the mouse, that eagle's flesh will contain a concentrated amount of the insecticide. When the eagle dies, Americans mourn the loss of a national treasure, unaware of the symbolic nature of that death. Eagles become barometers and harbingers of our destiny. If a cow eats the hay and clover treated with the poison, her flesh and body fluids will also contain this pesticide. If her milk is made into butter or cheese, the pesticide can enter your system in a more concentrated form. It takes 21 pounds of milk to make one pound of butter and ten pounds of milk to produce one pound of cheese. In addition to concentrated fats and cholesterol, one can eat powerful antibiotics and other chemicals too.

There is much contradictory information and disinformation that can make a consumer confused. That's why one very simple rule applies to all foods. Consider the stomach. Your stomach was designed to digest food. In doing so, the stomach acids break down foods into their basic building blocks, amino acids. Your stomach is a furnace and the foods are fuels. After passing through the stomach, these amino acids then make their way through the intestines or gut, and then pass through the gut wall where they enter the bloodstream and circulate throughout the body, nourishing every cell. The body has many different "utility companies" within. The lungs separate oxygen from the air we breathe and "put" that oxygen into the bloodstream where it circulates to every cell. The body makes its own electricity and sends messages to all cells through an electro-chemical network.

The level of acidity in the stomach, measured by pH, is a 1.8, very acidic. That level of acidity is enough to handle soybeans and soy products by breaking them down into their basic components. Eat soy protein and it is easily broken down into a very rich amino acid broth which nourishes and feeds your cells. If you eat 50 grams of soy protein you will utilize all of those amino acids as fuel for your body cells and functions.

Protein in milk presents a different set of circumstances. Protein in milk is exactly the same as protein in hamburger. Milk is liquid meat. However, the body treats that protein differently. In meat, the proteins would be broken down and provide fuel for the body. In milk, these same proteins are not broken down. They survive, intact. In doing so, these proteins are circulated in the blood to all cells. Many proteins, such as protein hormones send messages to cells. One protein, IGF-I, delivers a growth message to all cells, especially existing cancer cells. Eat 50 grams of milk protein and you deliver 59 different bioactive hormones to "influence" every cell in your body.

Milk buffers gastric pH. That normal 1.8 acidity is buffered to a 6.0 and at that (more basic) level the proteins are not broken down into their basic amino acids. Yes, Lucy, milk is loaded with protein. If you were to burn firewood to heat your home, and then spray water on the wood, the firewood would smoulder, not burn, and become a messy pile of "gunk." You notice a similar mess each time you overindulge by eating three or four slices of pizza on a Saturday night binge...notice what I mean the morning after by the indigestion and longer amount of time you spend in the privacy of your bathroom.

Milk proteins are difficult to digest because of the buffering effect on gastric enzymatic activity while soy proteins are quite easy to digest.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cliff
Website: Click Here
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1998-08-23 10:58:27
Comments: Robert C., I think your page is unnecessarily TERRIFYING the living daylight out of your visitors, to the point where they are milk-o-phobic. If milk is so dangerous (more like deadly/lethal) why is it only you I hear talking about this? You would think there would be AT LEAST 1 Epidemiologist, Pathologist, or isolated disease specialist making similar warnings, particularly when it comes to osteoporosis and cancer. I keep up to date to whats happenig in the science world, when it comes to breakthroughs on epidemic disease etc. (the same way you do), but as of this very second, minute, hour and date that this letter was sent, I am still YET to see ANY *incriminating* evidence that support your claims of milk (hormones contained in) and cancer, and even worse (ie found no evidence) milk and osteoporosis. The closest and only evidence I personally have seen that support your cancer argument a study in Medical Hypotheses 48(6): 453-461, 1997. Other than that, like I said in my previous guest letter, I believe you are missing the 1 critical citation that will bury the dairy industry. And that is a study illustrating the difference in serum IGF-1 levels after milk is ingested compared to a placebo. Good luck.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cliff,

There are hundreds of converging lines of "evidence" that lead to the same focal point about milk. My REFERENCE icon (HOMEPAGE) will furnish a few hundred citations which were published in accredited peer-review scientific journals.

So many "smoking guns" exist implicating milk and dairy products as the keys to cancer, bone and heart disease. One such Cancer link was published in the May, 1998 issue of the British Medical Journal, LANCET. The article revealed the missing link existing between IGF-I and breast cancer. What the journal article did not report is that IGF-I in cow's milk and our own bodies is an identical growth hormone.

I am not the only "VOICE" warning that milk from cows causes disease for humans. Dr Spock warned Americans that milk from cows should NEVER be consumed. So did Robert Kradjian, MD, a breast cancer surgeon who found thousands of references in the medical literature about the dangers of consuming milk and dairy products. The list of medical authorities supporting this position continues to grow. Long before I had a clue, Neal Barnard, founder of the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) advised that the quickest way to destroy good health was to consume dairy products. Dr Julian Whitaker, editor of HEALTH AND HEALING, the most successful and well read newsletter in the world (500,000 subscribers) also supports my position and I ws proud to join Dr. Whitaker as a fellow founding member of the ANTIDAIRY COALITION. (see http://www.antidairycoalition.com)

It is time to listen to the many voices who have come together as one voice to warn Americans that milk does NOT do a body good.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: kevin tyler
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: atlanta,ga
Time: 1998-08-22 10:49:45
Comments: learned of your web page thru the aug/sept Nexus article hard to believe the "American drink" is really that dangerous but it seems you're making me a believer . I plan on reading your book and finding out more about the subject!

Name: Thorne
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: LA
Time: 1998-08-22 03:56:05
Comments: Dear Not Milk Man:Here is my poem. I call it Think Twice! Some call it the "juice of the moo."But each sip and it turns into glue.Coating your intestines, making for hard defecations.They promote it thoughout every one of the nations!They add hormones and virus to high fat composition.And pay "experts" to insist that it's good for nutrition!With it's links to breast cancer, cholesterol, also asthma.Clogged veins, diabetes and probably miasma!Like a drug it is pushed, this thick mucus vice!Before you drink milk for your health....Think Twice!Jeffrey

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jeffrey,

I like it! Now we've got to put this to a nice tune and produce a music video for MTV. Perhaps Spike Lee will direct the piece? We'll hire all of the models and athletes who have posed for milkstache ads to sing and dance their way through our extravaganza! What do you think?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: X Brian X
Website: XxX Detroit x Killa x Crew XxX
Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement
From: Detroit, MI
Time: 1998-08-21 23:31:28
Comments: Hey, interesting site, i'll be sure to bookmark it!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Brian,

I visited your site and was pleased to see you endorse a "straight edge" philosophy which includes two categories of poison never to put into your body: NO DRUGS & NO COWS!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Katherine A. Weir
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kaua'i, Hawai'i
Time: 1998-08-21 15:26:09
Comments: I was not breastfed as an infant but raised on goat's milk as I was very allergic to cow's milk. I have avoided all dairy products as much as possible except for the daily espresso with steamed milk ......and then I read the article in the current issue of Nexus! Needless to say, I stopped the milk immediately......tried it with Rice Dream......quite tasty! Also working on cutting out coffee.....one step at a time! I support your work 100%, will be purchasing your book and spreading the word about the poison-milk. I am also concerned with the genetic engineering of the rest of our food supply as well. I don't understand why in the name of science and having greater crop yields and making more money those who perform these atrocities against nature don't have a speck of awareness of what they are doing to themselves and their families and the future of us all. Why do they think they can improve on the Infinite Intelligence of Nature? Again, thank you and aloha!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT,

Dear Katherine,

Men strive to become gods by attempting to understand the rules of nature. Every ten years we double the cumulative amount of previously known science. Our frontiers become smaller as our tools of exploration become more refined. Financial rewards factor into delicate equations, often compromising the search for truth, providing illusion and delusion.

Monsanto Agricultural Company was the first to "refine" the new biotechnology, GENETIC ENGINEEREING. In doing so, this pharmaceutical giant created a new monster, a "FRANKENFOOD." Monsanto Scientists and executives worked closely to hide truth from investigators at the Food and Drug Admistration (FDA).

In rushing their genetically engineered bovine growth hormone through the approval process, Monsanto compromised the health and safety of all those who would eat cheese or ice cream or milk taken from cows treated with this new poison.

Monsanto created a new amino acid when they genetically engineered the bovine growth hormone. This amino acid was a freak of nature, and was an unanticipated error. Monsanto scientists were aware of this mistake and had the responsibility of informing the FDA. At the time Monsanto realized the error, they had already invested $500 million dollars in the new technology. Monsanto got their top dairy scientists (Margaret Miller and Susan Sechen) jobs at FDA where they were charged with reviewing their own research which led to approval. Monsanto had sent their attorney to FDA (Michael Taylor) to work as the assistant to the Commissioner. Taylor wrote the laws which did not require a product to have a label informing Americans that they were eating genetically engineeered foods. Monsanto donated money to four congressmen on the DAIRY Committee (Volkmer, Gunderson, Dooley and Pombo) while these trusted elected officials were voting on a bill to label milk containing the hormone.

Scientists have big egos. They feel it necessary to "publish or perish." They leave paper trails. One Monsanto scientist, Bernard Violand published the admission of an error, a "freak amino acid" in the June, 1994 issue of THE JOURNAL OF PROTEIN SCIENCE. In that paper, Violand admitted that genetic engineering was not a perfect technology. He admitted that science does make mistakes. He admitted that in the #144 position, amino acid, LYSINE was replaced by epsilon-N-acetyllysine, a "freak." Freak was his word. Mother nature was unforgiving.

Laboratory animals got cancer from this hormone. FDA said that there were no biological effects. The actual proof is contained in an unpublished study authored by Richard, Odaglia and Deslex performed in 1989. Our government and Monsanto will not release that study. Freedom of Information Act requests and a suit in Federal Court have been unsucessful, attempting to get the data from an experiment gone horribly wrong. God forbid this study is ever released. A beautiful system, compromised by scientific fraud, will come tumbling down.

We continue to drink the milk made different by this new biotechnology. Nature's unforgiving lessons have been ignored by our fiduciaries. Americans are brainwashed into drinking the body secretions of lactating cows, an unnatural act for even an adult cow. The dairy industry is able to spend hundreds of millions of dollars every year on a milkstache campaign which insures that we continue to eat this new hormone in our milk and dairy products.

Regards,

Robert Cohen


Name: Kerry Christal
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Vancouver, WA
Time: 1998-08-20 11:06:42
Comments: It is really nice to know that there are people out there that feel the same way I do about not eating or drinking dairy. So many of us were raised on these products and led to believe all of our lives that we need to have these foods in our bodies to be healthy. What a bunch of hogwash!! I have always been a health conscience person, but I still incorporated dairy in my diet because I thought you were supposed to, but I have learned so much in my readings that this is very far from the truth. I do not eat or drink dairy of any kind anymore. The one question I have for you is, I have 3 daughters who do consume dairy, how do I break them. They are very finicky eaters. Please let me know your thoughts. Thank you.

NOTMILKMAN RESPONDS:

Dear Kerry,

You and I have something in common: we both have three daughters and each child in a finicky eater. My twelve year old, Jennifer, begins dinner at 5:00 PM and finishes around 10 PM! My eleven year old is a scavanger...if leftover Chinese food or spaghetti is in the refrigerator Sarah will consume it for her breakfast. Lizzy is constantly eating. She is only eight and she now prepares her own breakfast, and I'm talking about omeletes and French toast. Imagine having three daughters who eat all day long, three different diets. They eat constantly!

And guess what? They are all as skinny as rails and rarely get sick! We used to be a congested mucous-forming family. Five years ago breakfast always included cereal and we would go through a gallon of milk each day. We had brie and three kinds of Swiss cheese as staples in our refrigerator. I would buy ice cream on sale and stock up! Sour cream and cream cheese and yogurt...oh, how I used to love yogurt!

Along with our enormous dairy bill, we had tissues everywhere. This is a family joke...every one of us had mucous and congestion and there were boxes of Kleenex to be found on every table-top and in every room. Attendance at school was nothing to take pride in. Doctors visits for colds and virus were so common that we were voted family of the year by our pediatrician. We even received a post card from him one winter from Aruba that read: "Thanks to you all!"

And then we discontinued the dairy, got healthy..lost weight, noticed an improvement in our digestion and received a post card from the same doctor wanting to know when we moved away from the area, asking for our forwarding address.

I do the food shopping. I prepare the food. We changed our diet. Re-discovering tastes and textures is a family experience that can be a delicious taste treat. I rarely buy things in a box from a supermarket. Factory foods do not stack up to foods prepared from the basics. I actually spend less time cooking today than I did when I relied on the typical American diet. A large salad accompanies every meal. When you dine in a restaurant salads can be memorable. You can do the same at home, and better. Why not have a salad each night with water cress and arugula and dandelion greens? Grate in yellow and green squash and radishes and add three kinds of mushrooms, marinated in balsamic vinegar? Slice in wedges of green, red and yellow peppers and dice a ripe avocado and summer fresh tomatoes? Drizzle a bit of walnut oil and a squeeze of lemon juice...and do variations upon this same theme every evening...for a cost of pennies per portion.

Dessert can include thinly sliced wedges of mango or papaya with ripe melons or seedless grapes accompanied by shelled almonds or cashews.

We visit ethnic grocery stores and stock up on jars of vegetable-based sauces and spices. Tandori powder and miso and hundreds of other wonderful spices and essences are in our cabinets and fridge. Shoyu and bean paste and garlic sauce and biranyi. There are basically six meats in the American diet and most kids eat only three vegetables: French fries, pickles and ketchup. Sample the forty different veggies and forty different fruits and twenty beans and dozen different grains which are readily available. The tastes and textures and variety of foods will have you and those finicky eaters soon forgetting the pus-filled body secretions from cows.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Andre Richard Chalmers
Website:
From: New Zealand
Time: 1998-08-18 14:25:56
Comments: We picked up a copy of Nexus and after reading Roberts cool article on milk we decided to do something about it. We (Two 20 year old guys) are currently designing an anti- milk t-shirt to advertise to the public our distrust of the myth that has been made about 'Milk'. Hope you don't mind if we borrow a couple of your images for this project. Keep up the good work. Andre/Rene.

Name: Jeff LaPadula
Website: meat.org
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Hillsborough, NJ
Time: 1998-08-18 13:14:56
Comments: It is about time someone put milk in it's place. THE TRASH. Why do we drink cows' milk anyway?? Why not dogs' milk, or Cats' milk... It would be the same... So damn gross...GO VEGAN EVERYBODY www.veganoutreach.org

Name: Mark Wettler
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Tustin, CA
Time: 1998-08-17 22:42:14
Comments: One of my clients has developed an accurate test showing White blood cells, seen through a microscope, are killed by dairy products. The Prime test shows milk is one of the top three items causing delayed food allergies. He references your book on page 58 of the ninth edition of his book- Quality longevity.

Name: CHRISTINE V. FINK
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From:
Time: 1998-08-17 12:47:38
Comments: was aware of much of this prior-esp. the fact that kids that became diabetic were reacting to a particular protein,etc. in milk. Also aware of the fact that milk basically is foreign to people and that is why so many adults cannot tolerate it.And since this occurs quite possibly people should not ingest it.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Christine,

The clues are all around us, but often only those with vision are able to negate the enormous brainwashing effects of the dairy industry MILKSTACHE campaign. I congratulate you on having learned the TRUTH before coming to the NOTMILK page!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Laurie Heron
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Las Animas, CO
Time: 1998-08-16 05:48:54
Comments: Before finding your site and doing other additional research, I was a fence sitter on the whole dairy issue. No longer. However, I do have one problem with the site. As a former debater, I like for arguments, particularly controversial ones, to be completely sourced. Admittedly, this is something that is almost impossible to achieve on a full-time basis.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Laurie,

Every reference to my book can be viewed by clicking onto the "REFERENCES" icon on the main page of the NOTMILK site. As questions arise, it becomes easy for me to refer you, by reference number to scientific support for my arguments.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Towner, Dan & Barb
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Colorado
Time: 1998-08-16 03:09:19
Comments: Heard you on KRKS AM 990 Denver Saturday, 15 Aug '98. My wife and I knew about some of what you said on the Dr. Martin show, but wow! is there more. Thanks and hope this website gets busy. Definitely know the govt agencies are NOT on our side! They want natl health care for all the ailments the FDA approves for us to have. Be strong - We have to rely on the LORD instead of govt to care for us! It is up to us to govern our diets, health, etc. Thanks for sharing your insight; truth may be hard but "if you always tell the truth, you don't have to remember what you said."

Name: susyq-2
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Alberta Canada
Time: 1998-08-15 21:19:27
Comments: Robert ...Very interesting.......... I'm glad that I am not a milk drinker, I can't stand the stuff. Susyq

Name: Clark W. Griswald
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Udderville, CA
Time: 1998-08-15 05:41:44
Comments: It's funny to watch the milk nazis spew rhetoric about a perfectly legal product that is enjoyed by millions of people around the world. I always suspect another agenda when the author's name is Cohen...could the almighty $$ be driving all this phony passion? hmmmm

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT

Dear Clark,

"You always suspect another agenda when the author's name is Cohen?"...hmm, you would have made a great detective for Herr Hitler. I commend you for being courageous enough to sign your actual EMAIL address and city.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Kenny Ross
Website:
Referred by: Geocities
From: Mahwah, NJ
Time: 1998-08-15 04:38:08
Comments: You have a great site and you should be proud of what you are doing. I have been vegan for around 4 months now. But people always say to me, "But cows will die if you don't milk them." What should I say to them? Also, if you come back to ridgewood, NJ, please email me and tell me because i would love to come and support you.

Dear Kenny,

Thanks for your letter. You are right, cows will die if you don't milk them. This is an enormous dilemma for the people who support ethical treatment for animals. We must all have compassion for each other and for all animals, yet, if we do not eat those cute little lambs and piglets and ducks and chicks...who the heck is going to bother and grow them anymore? Farm animals are expensive to keep. They eat and have the same body functions as all animals...and they don't clean up after themselves! Farmers are not in business to raise thirty pets for each daughter. If we do not eat their flesh or use their skins to adorn ourselves, and we do not put them in circuses or petting zoos, then they are going to become extinct.

There are a few organizations that "rescue" animals from farms and provide living places where cows and sheep and pigs can graze and live in peace. This is not a practical solution for the nine million dairy cows and hundred million other animals living on farms in America.

Just for the record...I do not eat any animal flesh and I do support the wonderful work of animal rights and animal rescue groups. However, one must follow their work and goals to a logical conclusion. What happens to the animals if we do not use them for our food, clothing and amusement? They die and become memories.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Janice Kargus
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: NJ
Time: 1998-08-13 05:50:42
Comments: I heard you speak on WBAI and have been spreading the facts and enjoying soy milk. It continually amazes me how liitle we know until we stumble onto things. I do not eat meat or poultry, but never thought that I was still contributing. I was drinking organic milk. Does that make any difference?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Janice,

Organic milk does make a big difference. One glass of organic milk will contain 3,400 nanograms of IGF-I, the most powerful growth hormone known to mankind and the key factor in the growth of every human cancer. One glass of milk from a cow injected with the genetically engineered growth hormone will contain 6,000 nanograms of that same powerful growth hormone. I SAY, DO NOT TAKE EITHER.

The Organic milk will contain 59 different hormones and produce antibodies in your system. The number one protein in that organic milk is casein. Casein represents 80% of all milk protein. Casein is the glue used to hold together your furniture. I SAY, DON'T DRINK THAT STUFF!

How about a nice glass of ice cold water or fresh juice? No hormones or allergenic proteins. Your body will thank you!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Adolfo Neto
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maceio - AL - Brazil
Time: 1998-08-13 00:03:31
Comments: Dear NOTMILKMAN, Do you remember my last message about butter oil? You didn't miss anything in the translation. I know that butter oil is fat plus cholesterol. According to Sonia Hirsch (who writes books about macrobiotics here in Brazil), if you are not fat, butter oil is not that bad. According to her, most of the problem for allergic people (I'm allergic) is in the casein protein, which is not present in the butter oil. Besides, you didn't answer my question (maybe because you don't have this information): Does butter oil (not plain butter) contain hormones? Thank you for your attention, Adolfo Neto

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Adolfo,

If you are not fat you can eat dangerous animal fats? That will be news to the cardiologists and forensic doctors of our planet!

We do not see butter oil in America's supermarkets. You are referring to "Clarified butter" which is made by heating butter to the melting point, then skimming and straining off all but the pure golden liquid, the fat. Advice to eat this concentrated animal fat should be taken with caution. It contradicts even the dairy industry position. The link between these animal fats and heart disease has been clearly and overwhelmingly documented.

There have been no studies assaying (measuring) the exact amounts of each of the 59 different bioactive hormones in each dairy product we consume. We know that IGF-I is not destroyed by pasteurization (heating milk for 15 seconds at 162 degrees Fahrenheit.) We also know that only nineteen percent of the bovine growth hormone is destroyed by pasteurization, despite the fact that our FDA lied by representing that pasteurization did destroy this hormone. FDA accepted a study in which milk was heated for 30 minutes at a temperature reserved for the 15 second process.

The bottom line: Eat dairy products and you eat fat, cholesterol and hormones. I would love to see some of the $300 million of the yearly dairy industry dollars used to measure the levels of these hormones in our foods. Do you imagine we have much of a chance to see such a study?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: ali
Website:
Referred by: Yahoo!
From: australia
Time: 1998-08-12 11:30:45
Comments: Having studied nutrition for the past two years I was becoming aware that most of our material was "generously" supplied by the Dairy Corporation of Australia. We watched videos of our top level athletes drinking hormone infested milk straight from the carton. But lucky for them it was enriched with iron and extra calcium. And this product still goes under the banner of a whole food. How can something so processed (think homogenisation and pasteurisation) with additives be allowed to be named a "wholefood", while herbal tinctures are now being labeled toxic medicine? Having grown up in "cattle country" I know the lengths that farmers will go to just to produce enough milk from their stock so that they can feed the family. We were never allowed to drink "real" milk! Hypocritical really. You are voicing a suspision that I have held for a long time and I was really glad to find an article about you in Nexus magazine Vol 5 No 5. Congratulations and good luck for the future

Name: Robert Evan
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Scranton, PA
Time: 1998-08-11 01:47:17
Comments: Thank you!

Name: Reagon Hatch
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Idaho
Time: 1998-08-09 20:09:31
Comments: Mr. Cohen, If you have read so many research publications on the components and nutritional value of milk how could you have missed adding (CLA) conjugated linoleic acid to your lis?. Are you scared that this just happens to be one of the strongest naturally occuring ANTI-carcinogenic agents know to man and it is found in the highest concentrations in dairy products. But if you are trying to sell your book by running down dairy products I am sure this would not follow serve your agenda. The typical consumer is not an idiot they listen to rational reason and detail. The people you have following your agenda are obviously unable to read and understand the science and the facts for themselves. They have to rely on your distortions to come to thier own conclusions on dairy products. Nice try but you will not even phase the diary industry in this country the consumer is not as ignorant as you potray them to be

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Reagon,

Occasionally I receive good intentioned and well-thought out letters attempting to show how healthy milk and dairy products are for humans. Unfortunately, yours is neither good intentioned nor practical. Your condescending attitude is a reflection of your pre-conceived prejudice and ignorance.

Most dairy cows no longer feed on grass, which was the way cows used to eat Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA). Today their feeds contain corn and barley which is rich in CLA. Most experiments with CLA have been performed in vitro (in glass test tubes) and are inconclusive. What we have learned from CLA research is that meat and dairy products rich in CLA contain approximately seven milligrams of CLA per gram of fat. In order to obtain the recommended daily dosage of CLA from from meat and dairy, one would have to eat thousands of grams of animal fats every day.

CLA acts in a similar way to Omega-3 oils found in fish or sunflower and safflower oil. One of the most efficient and successful products on the market is "TONALIN" which is made entirely of vegetable sources, NOTMILK.

If you wish to order CLA you can call 1-888-NEWPEAK or 1-800-542-3230. Neither company manufactures a product that is derived from bovine body fluids.

Cows have CLA in their milk for the same reason that they have calcium...they get these "essentials" from the wonderful plants that are part of their diet. In such form, these important nutritional factors are easily absorbed and utilized by the body. The good news is that you too can get CLA and not ingest it by eating dairy products containing pus, bacteria, cholesterol and powerful growth hormones. Now, that is good news!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Nancie J. Beaven
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Bloomfield, NJ
Time: 1998-08-08 22:49:47
Comments: Actually, I found you at the Natural Living Conference,came home and threw out all the cheese in my frig (I never did drink milk)...but Oh the cheese.........I bought the tape, and as we speak am making copies, to send to my brother in Ohio, who has Prostate Cancer, to give to everyone and anyone I can get to listen to the tape, and I would like to order your book on tape.........you were the highlight of the conference, and you converted my best friend, who eats gallons of ice cream, puts half and half in her coffee, etc.(we turned her on to Rice Milk and she's a convert) Your daughters are a delight! I hope you will be a speaker at next year's conference......but I look forward to seeing you even sooner......at our December CARE meeting in Ridgewood.....where I am urging every member to bring at least three new people to that meeting.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

I enjoyed the Natural Living Conference and was impressed by the knowledge of its speakers and participants! Ridgewood should also be a great opportunity for me---to both teach to and learn from people with similar passions.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Ross Himona
Website: Ross Himona's Maori Website
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Zealand
Time: 1998-08-08 11:56:40
Comments: Robert, In New Zealand we indigenous Maori people have a very high incidence of "Glue Ear" amongst our children, in relation to the predominant European heritage population, leading to hearing impairment, learning difficulties and school dropout. The research also shows high levels of hearing impairment in our Maori prison population. Is there any research to show a a causal relationship between dairy consumption and Glue Ear. Is there any research to show greater intolerance to dairy amongst indigenous peoples, such as we Polynesians, who have had only a relatively short exposure to the cows milk diet. I am heading a project, part of which aims to combat the effects of Glue Ear amongst the under 6's in our nationwide network of 650 Kohanga Reo (Maori Language Nests). The New Zealand Health establishment is involved in a great deal of discussion about preferred treatments, but no research seems to be available to them about causation. My own vegan experience instinctively tells me that without milk there is no mucus, and without mucus there is no Glue Ear. But of course Health establishments need acceptable research before they act.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Thousands of doctors have linked the consumption of milk and dairy products to earaches, mucous and congestion. The number one protein in milk is casein, a tenacious glue that stimulates the production of histamines in this classic and powerul antigen-antibody reaction. I am not familiar with Maori studies. However, this negative effect is well documented and quite commonly observed anywhere milk is consumed.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Martin Newman
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Bedford, England, Gt.Britain
Time: 1998-08-07 23:30:16
Comments: Dear Robert, i had no idea the situation regarding milk was so bad.Certainly i had heard about growth hormones in meat animals as well as milk herds-but so many! Now i'm wondering about good old blighty,is there any reason to think that Britains milk is OK? I guess not. Congratulations on a great (and very necessary)web site,i will be telling everyone about it. Regards, Martin

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Martin,

There is reason to be even more concerned about the milk in Britain. Most British are aware of BSE (bovine spongiform encephalitis), the human form of "MAD-COW DISEASE" which led to the destruction of millions of cattle in your country. Nobody is certain as to the method by which we absorb the particles (PRIONS) responsible for this neurological disease. What we do know is that we get them from cows. I do not recommend that you drink body fluids from diseased animals.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Adolfo Neto
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maceio -AL - Brazil
Time: 1998-08-07 20:42:17
Comments: Excellent web site. I haven't drunk milk regularly for more than a year. What about butter oil? Besides being pure fat and having cholesterol, is it dangerous? Does it contain hormones?

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Adolfo,

You ask, "Besides being pure fat and having cholesterol, is it dangerous." You are from Brazil, a Portuguese-speaking nation. Have we lost something in the translation? I trust that you instinctively know the answer such an obvious question. Perhaps you should present your query to your doctor. Say, "Doctor, would your advice for me, your patient, be to eat the fats and cholesterol contained in butter? Should I make butter an important part of my diet?" Tell him that you are asking that same question to a few doctors, and will give your business and health to the physician offering the healthiest nutritional advice.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Steve Matsukawa
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Gardena, CA
Time: 1998-08-07 03:44:21
Comments: Just unbelievable! Makes me wonder why the media/government consortium has turned a blind eye to this? Keep up the good work!

Name: David baker
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Croydon Victoria Australia
Time: 1998-08-06 16:19:03
Comments: Site is Great! about time all the facts are put to the public. Saw your article in Aug98 NEXUS Magazine. Might I suggest that you include a "magazine" section in your 'where did you find us' section? Your article has been passed on to my friends who suffer Asthma & respiratory problems, AND WHO DRINK GALLONS OF MILK!, and will be passed on to all my clients.

Name: Ray Bednar
Website: Teraz Technologies Corporation
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New Jersey
Time: 1998-08-06 06:07:49
Comments: I heard you speaking on WBAI this morning. You gave a great talk. I support WBAI. I currently only use milk in my coffee, but now I'm going to either start drinking my coffee black or switch to tea. I'll also have to re think eating a lot of other things that are made with milk. Keep up the great work.

Name: becke treas
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: ks.
Time: 1998-08-06 01:50:30
Comments: if god inteaned us to drink milk there would not be a line around the hood quote "prince"

Name: Arnold Lowell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kew Gardens, NY 11415.
Time: 1998-08-05 21:32:32
Comments: I met you at the potluck dinner in Pleasantville, New York (you signed my book). I am hoping that I could get to see you at the conference that you will be having with the "mad cowboy" Howard Lyman. I am very impressed with the outstanding job that both of you are doing to promote good health to those that have been "brainwashed" by the corporate powers-that-be who are only seeking to fatten their wallets at the publics' expense and ignorance. God bless you and may you prosper and get the word out!! By the way, I already dropped 5 pounds with the new diet; I feel absolutely great!!

Name: Rickelle Braniff
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Gold Coast, Australia
Time: 1998-08-05 16:11:40
Comments: I read a short article made up of letters sent to you, in Nexus Magazine. Very interesting stuff! I hope you keep up your fight to open people's eyes to the injustice being done to them and their families. Thank you for opening mine. :)

Name: Becky
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Montana
Time: 1998-08-05 05:33:05
Comments: Thank you for trying to debunk the push by the dairy industry. As vegetarians in Montana, it's fairly difficult, but not impossible, to raise a healthy vegetarian family. Fortunately we have a great food co-op, lots of local organic growers, and enough people that support us in our alternative lifestyle. The other side of the coin, though, are lots of ranchers and farmers that are federally subsidized, and wooed by the likes of Monsanto, and many child-care centers that are subsidized. We recently had to obtain a Dr'.s note for the school to allow our 3-year-old to drink soy milk instead of the cow's milk they serve with every meal, and/or snack, by the order of the USDA. I feel sorry for any parent who has to try to get a note without an alternative or understanding Dr., and no family history of lactose intolerance or known allergies to milk. I have been searching the internet for any and all useful info on nutrition without milk or meat, which will be useful in my local fight to keep my family healthy. My oldest daughter, because of the day-care milk incident, has named me the "milk-anarchist", a title I proudly wear!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Becky,

When you're the notmilkman or the milk anarchist (I like your title!) or just one little voice in the crowd yelling, "The Emperor's not wearing any clothes," it's sometimes difficult to get the ignorant majority to listen. Please call my toll-free number M-F between 9 and 5, EST, and one of the operators will take your address and send you free information for you to distribute to your school administrators.

1-888-NOT-MILK (1-888-668-6455)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Rosina Anitelea
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: australia
Time: 1998-08-04 11:09:52
Comments: I was recently advised of the tremendous impact milk has on our bodies and on our overall health. After reading a summary on Robert Cohen's findings I have stopped drinking milk a week ago. I was told that the way I feel is normal and is normal when you deprive your body of the substance. I don't know what to think, I think well maybe it's coincidence that I feel like this and I have just stopped drinking milk or maybe it is really true. A question I have is studies of Cohen's finding are based on American cows, how is this the same for Australian milk drinkers? Is it the same? Do Australian farmers adopt the same methods as American farmers? Or is it more controlled? Or is it worse? I asked a fellow colleague who referred me to the subject and I don't feel he answered the question to my satisfaction. Could someone please answer this question. Regards Rosina

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Rosina,

Please let me know exactly how you do feel. Obviously, you noticed a difference but I do not understand whether you feel better or worse. What differences (coincidences) do you observe?

There are many different breeds of dairy cows and beef. Some have been exported to the United States and Australia by France and Britain (Charolais). Others are exported bu the United States to England and Australia. (Holstein). There are many different breeds of cow. There are no Australian cows or American cows, just cows! All cows have naturally present hormones. Whether a cow sits in your living room in Australia or is your pet in New Zealand or mows your lawn in Wis-cow-sin... all cows share a common ancestry and a common hormone, Insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I). This hormone is identical to human IGF-I, the most powerful growth hormone in our bodies.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Michael Plociniak
Website:
Referred by: AOL
From: Erie, PA
Time: 1998-08-03 09:32:44
Comments: I am a biology professor and I was very interested to read your enlightening book. I have a deep respect for your research efforts and your willingness to speak out against corporate propaganda. What disturbs me the most is the corruption of science (and its "supporting" literature) to set precedence for the use of genetically engineered products for American consumers. I was surprised at how easy it was for me to stop using dairy products after being raised on a steady diet of ice cream, cheese, butter, etc. Your book really catalyzed my already improving eating habits. Have you read "Mad Cows and Milk Gate" by Virgil Hulse? His book reinforces your viewpoints and explains the dangers of PRIONS in the cattle industry (ala Mad Cow Disease). Yet another reason not to consume dairy products!! I am encouraging my friends and students to educate themselves on these important topics. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS!!

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Professor,

I agree with you about the "corruption" of the scientific method. Many scientists blindly accept conclusions published in scientific journals on FAITH rather than by examining facts. SCIENCE has become, an extreme form of religion, worshiped by adoring zealots who consider themselves superior to the rest of mankind.

On August 24, 1990, the greatest scientific fraud in history occurred and not one reader of SCIENCE (found in most American libraries) caught on. SCIENCE is read by 500,000 "scientists" every week and is "THE" peer-review journal. This paper (on the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone) concluded that 90% of rbGH/rbST was destroyed by pasteurization. After checking the actual research I learned that only 19% of the hormone was destroyed. The scientists doing the work (University of Guelph, Ontario) had ties to the manufacturer of the drug, MONSANTO. They heated milk for 162 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 minutes. Milk is usually pasteurized for 15 seconds at that temperature, not thirty minutes! This fraud, not noticed by even one member of the scientific community, led to approval to this poison, now in America's cheese, milk and ice cream.

Virgil Hulse's testimony helped to win the trial for Oprah! His book is a classic. Hulse is a medical doctor who worked for fifty years in the dairy industry. He is one of America's dairy experts and an honorary member of the ANTIDAIRY COALITION.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Stacie Kimbell
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Tennessee
Time: 1998-08-02 22:46:27
Comments: How do you feel about organic milk found in health stores? I'm interested to know your opinion, and look forward to learning healthier ways to get my calcium.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Stacie,

The healthiest milk from the healthiest cow contains powerful growth hormones that should not be in your body. That same "wholesome" milk contains, as its most abundant protein, CASEIN, mother nature's most tenacious glue. See my opinion column on the ANTIDAIRY site--http://www.antidairycoalition.com.

Calcium? There is an ongoing study at Harvard University involving 50,000 nurses. Latest results demonstrate that dietary calcium plays little role in preventing osteoporosis.

Just for the record, human breast milk (nature's perfect food and formula for human babies) contains 33 milligrams of calcium per 100 gram portion. Potato chips contain 40, beans 50, chick peas 150, broccoli 102, collards 170, molasses 2,000 and sesame seeds 4,000! Your food is loaded with calcium. Protein inhibits calcium absorption and those nations eating the greatest amounts of protein also have the highest rates of bone disease. If you want to absorb calcium, eat it in combination with magnesium. Magnesium is the center atom of chlorophyll. Why do you think that cows have sooooo much calcium in their milk. Do they eat ice cream or drink milk? They eat "green stuff," and so should we!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Steve
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: SLC, UT
Time: 1998-08-01 03:23:10
Comments: Get a life!!!! Don't you think that killing plants for your hunger is murder too. And you call yourself a humaniterain.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Thank you for the "get a life" suggestion. I have been working a bit hard lately! It took a lot of effort on my part to recently learn that mycobacterium paratuberculosis was not killed by pasteurization. FDA and USDA have fumbled the ball and should be held accountable for this error. That bacteria causes irritable bowel syndrome, shared by four million American women.

If I "had a life" I'd be swimming and playing tennis this summer.

You are also right about the butchery involved in eating vegetables. Everybody who has ever experienced the wailing bleating cry of a baby asparagus, sliced through the jugular vein while its entrails hang out as it dies, will never forget that frightful sound.

Hey Steve, I'll make you a deal. I have a movie of animals being slaughtered (given to me by PETA). How about if we show that movie to your wife and children. I'll then have my wife and kids witness a live demonstration of you slicing tomatoes (Aaaaaaghh) and cutting open a canteloupe, exposing the seeds and pulpy flesh! (How horrible!!!)

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cathie M. McGuinn
Website:
Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button
From: Near Lake Lure, NC
Time: 1998-07-31 04:17:20
Comments: Enjoyed this information--but I want more! I could not seem to click on links and go to them. I don't know where the problem is! Thanks, Cathie M. McGuinn

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cathie,

Thanks for visiting!

Dave Rietz (the brilliant NOTMILK webmaster) has recently added "text-only" versions of many of the features on this website. They should be easier to load and print!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Hallie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: grosse pointe
Time: 1998-07-29 03:10:28
Comments: Have you tried to get any celebrities interested? They could really get the public to take interest or at least make them aware- Cindy Crawford has just started a fund raiser for Leukemia- and is very interested in that cause, maybe you could get to her to become aware of the link between dairy and other illnesses. Just a suggestion, because so much of the public will listen to what a celebrity says over what medical specialists have to say.

Name: Robert Ashley Martin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Minneapolis, but
Time: 1998-07-26 06:17:31
Comments: Thank God for the article in Time Magazine (June 15, 1998, page 85) about you. That's how I read about you. I have passed information about you to many people. Are you sending information to Ralph Nader? To President Clinton, or Hillary? In San Francisco, Rainbow Grocery, a very large natural foods store with a great book department NEEDS your book. Their telephone 415-863-0621, ask for Dore. She selects the books. I hope you might contact me to possibly be your liason in the San Francisco Bay Area. As a former TV news reporter, I know how you can make a big splash with the media and end this sickness of people consuming the the milk of a bovine! Robert Ashley Martin, San Mateo, CA Tel. 650-348-1177.

Name: Barbara McCullough
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Grants Pass, OR
Time: 1998-07-25 22:57:44
Comments: Thank you for your extensive research on a most important subject. We've been non-dairy for 17 years, but find it almost impossible to convince others to join us. You've created a strong and potentially powerful movement, backed by truth. We wish you the best!

Name: Georgiana Duncan
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: New River, Arizona
Time: 1998-07-23 01:55:21
Comments: Very enlightening

Name: Elyse Scerbo
Website:
Referred by: From a Friend
From: Putnam Valley, New York
Time: 1998-07-22 06:09:06
Comments: thanks

Name: Jenn Leavitt
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: LA, CA
Time: 1998-07-11 08:22:06
Comments: Thanks for your page - I have long felt that our country betrays us with nutrition fraud -- and unfortunately I love the taste of dairy but I'm truly scared for my health and have been for years since I first heard about dairy's relationship to breast and lung cancer -- I just can't believe that to get organic food, whole grain pasta and dairy substitutes (in any volume/selection anyway) that we have to go to a health food store and pay more. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Jenn,

You know what seems insane to me? They put glue in tuna fish. Think about that. You can get a can of Star Kist or Chicken of the Sea or Bumble Bee and when you read the label it says: "CASEIN." That's a milk protein, a tenacious glue. It costs them money, but the product looks firmer.

You can buy tuna fish without casein, just the way mother nature planned it...however, expect to pay more. I don't get it, do you you? Why would the real thing with no additives cost more???

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: heather paslay
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: dallas, tx
Time: 1998-07-10 01:07:05
Comments: I'm 23 and i never knew that adverse effects of dairy. Like thousands of other intellegent humans, I was ignorant of the real contents of milk due to advertising. Thank you so much for the information. I would love to have any other information I could recieve by e-mail. Thank you.

Name: Nancy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MA
Time: 1998-07-07 08:11:59
Comments: When is the deadline for submission of work to your book? I read the article in the Boston Herald on you today. You are THE BEST. I am behind you all the way in this fight against the psychos. Also, I would love to put an end to those mustache ads...there MUST be a way....

Name: Wes Peterson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: USA
Time: 1998-07-06 16:18:13
Comments: I am a Holistic Nutrition student earning a Bachelor's degree in Naturopathy. I agree with your statement that "milk is poison". It is 100% UN-necessary to the human organism. It is what I like to call, a "mucus-chemical cocktail". Just one question - does your book go into the "XO Factor" existing in homogenized milk/dairy products? Xanthine Oxidase is perverted into a highly potent free radical when the product is homogenized. This enzyme causes tiny nicks in the blood vessels, which over time, foster the buildup of plaque from a variety of substances (cholesterol, minerals, fats, etc.) and eventually leads to the development of atherosclerosis and hardening of the arteries. One final note - I have made massive changes in my diet over the course of time, and now consume a 100% whole foods, all organic, raw foods diet. During this time, I have had the privilege of detoxifying dairy products out of my body. This is still continuing. If people want a testimony as to the toxic and congesting nature of dairy products, then listen to this: I have been having skin eruptions for some time now (a common detox 'symptom'). Out of many of these skin eruptions, I have coaxed what appears to be milk. During pinching and manipulating these areas on/under the skin, I have forced a substance to literally shoot out - which looks exactly like milk. I have read that this is a common occurrence when eliminating dairy products from the diet and detoxifying them out of one's body. People don't realize how much dairy they carry (hey that rhymes) in their bodies! I used to have a lot of congestion in my lungs, sinuses, etc. -- all mucus from the dairy products which was devitalizing me. Well, I could go on and in a lot of detail, but the bottom line is that dairy products are poison; they're awful, they're toxic, and again: "a mucus-chemical cocktail". Anyway, I may order and read your book. What's the co$t + shipping, etc.? Also - how long did it take for you to research it and so forth? And do you hold any degrees or anything? Lastly - How did you come to write the book and research this issue, etc.? Thanks. -- Wes

Name: venessa
Website: Animal Kingdom
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: California
Time: 1998-07-06 04:16:35
Comments: nice page

Name: Jessika Willis
Website:
Referred by: From LinkExchange
From: Melbourne, Australia - previously Leamington Spa, UK
Time: 1998-07-01 15:48:19
Comments: The slavery of cows, the over-grazing of land and disproportionate distribution of land also make the drinking of milk even more bizarre. Unfortunately, after 20 years of coming to understand this gross warp in our universe, I am not surprised folks can't resist. Even my Natuorpathic friends sometimes curl their lips at me when I protest their telling folks to eat meat and drink milk. They don't want to sound too strident and defend themselves against the weight of the dominant paradigm. Tra - la, the power of greed and jealousy, that such souls as these can be 'milked' too. thanks Robert - good stuff. Jessika

Dear Jessika,

You have a wonderful way with words...there truly is a "gross warp in our universe!" Why have we lost the ability to look at ourselves and truly understand the mechanisms involved in brainwashing us and our doctors into believing that the body secretions from another species of animal is the perfect food for the human body?

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Sammye
Website: Ask an Herbalist
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: The Great state of Kentucky!
Time: 1998-07-01 10:11:45
Comments: I loved your pages---especially the page with the famous people and a comment out beside their names! I have been a "reformed" milk drinker for almost 20 years now, and although I still (would) LOVE the taste I know it is not intended for humans-- I have been trying to teach my clients what your page says for the past 16 years---many have come to appreciate the truthfulness of it--thank you for a "stunning" statement!

Name: Janet Mitchell Wagner
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Los Angeles
Time: 1998-07-01 04:17:58
Comments: I heard about you on KPFK. I have always been concerned about maintaining my health, understanding the importance of nutrition and exercise. I read your book, and applaud your well-thought research. I have already made a change in my diet. Thanks! Sincerely, Janet Mitchell Wagner: Instructor of English

Name: Joanne Parshall
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-06-29 19:49:22
Comments: Hi Mr. Cohen - I've e-mailed you before and thank you for being so informative. My family is now very happy drinking soy products. I was curious - have there been any studies on people who are allergic to milk (no milk products from birth)and their history of disease - i.e. breast cancer, heart disease etc. Thanks - Joanne Parshall

Name: William Ivie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: NC
Time: 1998-06-29 11:39:56
Comments: I am an avid milk drinker, and have been for quite some time, and never have i heard about the so called "harmful effects" from consuming this seemingly harmless drink. This page is unnecessrily scaring many people that drink milk. If there are such dangers, as you have so bodly stated, then why isn't there more out there about it? Don't you think that if drinking milk was a big of concern as you say it is, then it wouldn't be quite so popular and it would be more heavily under review of the FDA. Why don't you state the positives of drinking milk, to adequately complete the webpage. If it is as dangerous as you say, you wouldn't lose anything by stating the positives, because you make it seem as though the negatives greatly outweigh them, therefore, no harm done to the overall effect of your page.

Dear William,

You are correct! There is something wonderful that happens to every milk drinker...that milk mustache can make a face so attractive! Look what it has done for the Secretary of the Department of health and human services!

Other than than...I cannot think of one benefit gained from drinking cow's milk.

Regards,

Robert Cohen


Name: Malcolm Eddo
Website: Teen Sports
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Indiana
Time: 1998-06-28 06:49:29
Comments: I will never EVER drink milk again. I often felt a bit weird after drinking it before, but now! I couldn't look at it again let alone drink it.

Name: Diane A. Hall, L.Ac.
Website: Acupuncture
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Monarch Beach, CA
Time: 1998-06-25 03:40:03
Comments: As a practitioner of Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine, I see a multitude of health problems related to consumption of dairy products in both children and adults. I'm sharing this web site address with everyone I know. Thanks for exposing the FDA for what it is.....

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Diane,

I find it interesting that "mainstream" American culture rejects the great wisdom of Chinese medicine and acupuncture while supporting a system that makes Americans sicker and sicker. I am also fascinated by the fact that Chinese revere their elders...When an individual reaches eighty years of age their wisdoms and insights into life should be respected, not ridiculed as they are here by the "Pepsi" generation.

In his later years America's greatest pediatrician, Dr. Benjamin Spock supported a vegetarian diet devoid of all milk and dairy products. This advice to all was part of Spock's legacy... If he was alive today he would be a strong advocate and participant in the ANTIDAIRY COALITION! The media has already begin to ridicule Spock's message. One pediatrician, Brazelton has called Spock's message "lunacy." We should all note that Brazelton does a television series and explore his corporate sponsors. I suggest that it is lunacy not to heed Dr. Spock's healthy advice.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Alex Fowler
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Knoxville, TN
Time: 1998-06-24 01:37:08
Comments: Great Cesaer's Ghost! There are a million and a half abortions every year. A MILLION and a HALF!!! And that's humans. And you people are worried about drinking freaking MILK?!?! Jeez Louise.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Alex,

Where are all of the "thou shalt not killers" and compassionate anti-abortion advocates when it comes to slitting the throats of lambs or pigs or cows and knowing that their entrails fall from their bodies as they feel pain and smell death so that we can eat their flesh?

If you pretend to have compassion for unborn infants while looking the other way when animals are inhumanely slaughtered then you practice hypocracy.

Abortion is a human tragedy. It is an option that is no easy choice for a woman to make. Those making such a choice over the destiny of that unborn child forever live with that decision. I have seen many abortion movies. I have also seen many films of how animals are slaughtered. Neither film is pleasant to watch. Those who deny either event are those who truly do not understand the true universal message of love and compassion.

I personally do not favor abortion but support a woman's right to make that very tough personal decision. I also do not support the widespread animal torture and slaughter but also support your choice to decide what you eat. I have no right to make either decision for you.

I do not support food additives which cause cancer in laboratory animals. When we are betrayed by FDA and USDA regulators who lie to us about food safety then it is time to speak out. I am doing just that.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cliff
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1998-06-23 23:40:13
Comments: This must be my third (or 4th) time visiting your page, but I must admit, I don't exactly agree with everything you say. I am in my final year of Pathophysiology, and it took many men to teach us. If you what you say is true and then realized by these 'specialists', - about the cancer issue (ie IGF-1 doubling from milk), that would mean over the last 400 YEARS! that we've been baffled by cancer cell proliferation etc, the answer has been under our nose all this time. I'm not sure if this calls for celebration, or going to our doctors and scientists and knocking them upside their heads. I think the mistake you make at this page is your first line, where you quote from the USDA determining how much dairy products people consume. They measure in pounds(586 lbs/yr), and this clearly does not tell the whole (if any of) the story. I can tell you from my personal experience, after reading that my very first visit, my mind was filled with all kinds red flags. Your argument will be twice as crushing, if you obtain then quote from documented national surveys- eg Food and Nutrition Board of the National Research Council. Best wishes Cliff

Name: allen beckett
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: portsmouth,ohio
Time: 1998-06-23 16:30:12
Comments: have heard you twice on wlw cincinnati.makes sense to me. your web site is welldone. drink milk with cereal. other thanthat have been trying not to use it.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Allen,

Pour the milk over your cereal and the snap, crackle and popping causes a Pavlovian response. Yummmy, that sure will taste good!

Four hours later you sit at a desk or your kids struggle to finish an exam while undigested food bubbles away in a stomach which has had its acid diluted by liquid milk. By drinking nature's "perfect food" humans take away nature's ability to do its perfect job, digestion. The gastric pH is buffered and the result is that more acid has to be secreted into the mixture causing gas and bloating and discomfort. This changes the mooooood and behavior of the entire body.

Pay very close attention to your body...eat those rice crispies dry one day and with milk the next day and you note the difference. Keep a diary every five minutes and you will hear and feel the subtle clues which are normally ignored.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Margaret Pearson Pinkham
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Sonoma County CA
Time: 1998-06-21 21:38:18
Comments: I am the editor of the "Vegetarian Grapevine" a publication of the Vegetarians of Sonoma County (California). A board member of the VSC asked me to include your web page in our newsletter. (We list sites of interest.)Feel free to send us literature or press releases:Grapevine Editor,Vegetarians of Sonoma County,P.O. Box 4003,Santa Rosa, CA 95402Thanks

Dear Margaret,

It's on the way! :>)

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: scott zanetti
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Morristown NJ
Time: 1998-06-21 17:59:59
Comments: Found you with great thanks,as always, to Gary Null Will do my level best to carry the message to others

Name: Dr. David J. Mayeda
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Hawaii
Time: 1998-06-21 11:42:22
Comments: Dear I heard you on the Art Bell Radio Show. I can't wait to start reading your book. Have you read the Dr. Atkins Book? If so tell me what you thought. Lots of Aloha Dr. Mayeda

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear David,

Aloha to you too! Millions of people have read Dr. Atkin's book and respect his work. I've met many dozens of his followers and I have yet to meet one who looks healthy. Many of them sip diet sodas (containing aspartame) and continue to complain about one or more of the 92 symptoms listed on FDA's complaint list. (see: http://www.dorway.com)

We are a nation of people who eat too much protein. Milk is basically "liquid meat," containing the same dangerous animal fats and cholesterol. Protein inhibits calcium absorption and those nations consuming the most protein also have the highest rates of osteoporosis.

A front page story in the New York Times (June 20th, 1998) revealed advice from the greatest pediatrician in the history of America. Dr. Spock's legacy:

"STICK TO A VEGETARIAN DIET DEVOID OF ALL DAIRY PRODUCTS AFTER THE AGE OF TWO."

Why not take a survey of 100 people? Perhaps you will find 5 vegetarians and 5 followers of Atkins in that group of 100. Look closely at the eyes, complexion and body shape of each individual and then choose which philosophy best expresses how you want to look and feel.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Pete Atkinson
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: USA
Time: 1998-06-21 06:28:59
Comments: Very Informative Web Site. Plan to Order your book soon. Keep up the work on getting this information out to everyone, I plan to.

Name: Robert R Vogel
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Conyers, GA (Atlanta suburb)
Time: 1998-06-20 21:34:07
Comments: I heard you on the John & Ken Show (talk radio....they are syndicated to an Atlanta station). I was shocked and intrigued. I have been drinking milk on cereal for 40 years. Am I doomed? If I change my diet now(age 43); can I undo the damage? I guess I will switch to oatmeal or grits and water. I know, I need to buy your book.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Robert,

I personally do not believe that you can "undo the damage." However, every day is a new life and every week, month and year present new challenges and learning experiences.

I take great pleasure in having taught you something about your diet. Forget the past. Think about today. If you are the average American...today you will eat, from your milk, cheese, ice cream and butter, the same cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon! That will work out to the equivalent cholesterol, this year, in 19,000 slices of bacon.

Milk and cheese and ice cream taste so good but is it really all worth it? Is it too late to get rid of the sluggishness, skin problems, allergies, depression, potential heart disease and cancer? Not at all! Discover the "FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH..."

NOTMILK!!!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Brad Werschler
Website: Digital Audio Formats
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 1998-06-20 11:22:10
Comments: I had heard rumours that milk wasn't nearly as good for you as the ads claim. I am 22 years old and I normally drink quite a bit of milk. I am definately going to cut down. Is society so pathetic now that "business and profit" takes precedence over people's health and well-being? This is a sad world we live in.

Name: Keven Keller
Website: In Defense of Animals
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: The Bay Area, California
Time: 1998-06-20 06:06:06
Comments: I run the Vegan Campaign at In Defense of Animals, we are a national non-profit animal rights organization. I totally support your campaign to the fullest. We must all work together to combat the "got milk?" propaganda, for the animals, environment, and our health. Keep it up, thx for caring.

Name: Meghan
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Maine
Time: 1998-06-20 00:49:46
Comments: To the Notmilkman: I'm extremely interested in your findings, but am still unclear on a few things. I haven't read all 460+ messages in your guestbook, but have read a good deal of them and still have a few questions unanswered. Here they are: In regards to the comment on your webpage that stated that humans cannot adequately absorb the calcium from milk and research shows that milk causes osteoporosis -- does milk cause osteoporosis, or simply not prevent it? Why is it that we cannot absorb the calcium from milk? Does this mean that we also cannot absorb calcium from dietary supplements, fortified soy milk, and spinach? Also, when someone asked in an earlier message if organic dairy products are okay, you responded that they are still high in fat, cause allergic reactions, have natural hormones, etc. Do they also have any nutritional value, such as high vitamin content, protein, etc? Here's another one: as far as the IGF-1 hormone -- do cows produce this naturally, or is it genetically engineered then injected, or both? Most hormones are present in our bodies in trace amounts, and can be excreted in short order (as opposed to, say, dioxins which are fat soluble and build up in the body over the years). My question is, if someone cuts diary out of their diet (even if they have been eating it for 50 years), does that almost instantly reduce the possibility of cancer growing in their bodies, or are they somehow ruined by years and years of diary consumption? All this has really struck a chord with me. I've been telling everyone I know about what I've learned here, and from hearing you talk on the radio, and these are the questions that keep popping up in all of our heads. Please quench our curiosity. Meghan

Name: Azi
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: san diego, california
Time: 1998-06-19 23:49:19
Comments: cool page! i am a vegan, and VERY glad i don't eat dairy foods after reading your webpage! i didn't get to see the whole thing, but you might want to be sure that you include some info on milk's cruelty to animals (if you have, sorry, i didn't see it) and about how farms and eating meat and dairies contributes to the decline of tropical rainforests. for more information on these issues, check out the website of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, better known as PETA. thanks!!! keep on keeping on!!!!!!

Name: Gary Fryer
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: California
Time: 1998-06-19 22:26:58
Comments: Thank you for you web site expose on milk. Web sites like yours are proof positive of the real blessing the Internet represents. I have been a vegan since 1970 and, of course, do not use milk products. My two year old son was breast fed and is now a vegan as well He has not ever had an ear infection and does not suffer from allergies or other problems beyond occasional colds and/or the flu. I'm a big fan of Dr. John A. McDougall, M.D. (McDougall's Medicine: A Challenging Second Opinion) who advocates a vegan diet. No doubt you have heard of him. Again, thanks for the invaluable service to the public that you provide. Sincerely, Gary W. Fryer Coloma, California

Name: amar
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: South India
Time: 1998-06-19 09:05:51
Comments: -- Sixty Percent of America's dairy cows have leukemia virus. Is it wise to eat the flesh Hi I am not doctor but as far as I know, leukemia is not caused by any kind of virus. I verified it with a medical book too. I know there are some facts in your article but how credible is it ? I will let a big bunch of people know about your site (and leukemia virus). BTW, I am a vegetarian and dont represent not have any interest in any dairy/meat processing industry. reply if you care amar

Name: Natalie Nichols
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-06-18 22:00:10
Comments: Hello! My mom said she listened to you on the radio talking about milk and your website and book. She was telling me everything you said and I'm thinking, "I'm only 17 years old, but I drink milk EVERYDAY....if I continue this, will this cause some terrible disease in me?" I really thought about it, then I went to your website. It showed me ALL THE FACTS THAT I NEEDED NEVER TO DRINK MILK AGAIN OR EAT DAIRY FOODS. It's DISGUSTING and its A KILLER! I'm SO GLAD that you went onto the radio and my mom heard you. I'm going to go out and buy your book...THANK YOU FOR PUTTING SOME SENSE INTO OUR HEADS....we needed this kind of information!!! THANK YOU, Natalie

Name: M. Kumm
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Columbia, MO
Time: 1998-06-18 04:38:18
Comments: I have heard your interview on a Kansas City station and think this honestly sounds like a bunch of bullshit. I'm usually one that likes to heard all sides to a story and I have read your page as well as heard you speak. I know our government hides things. The current case of Olestra is a clear example. However, there is no such thing as pure food. It doesn't exist. There's bacteria, blood and viruses in just about everything -- especially in something like milk. Should they add hormones? No, of course not but you are using extreme language to incite people when there is nothing extraordinary occuring. There are allowances for a remarkable number of things in the food we eat and we have adapted to this. Hell, I know someone that works for the ATF and upon inspection, human body fat was found in Mexican tequila. That's reality. It's a fact of life. Every time you put something in your body, you take a risk. Furthermore, you're taking generalities and applying it to your hypothesis without a firm foundation for doing so. I didn't see any cites to studies for your accusations. Even if there was a study cited, I doubt there would be anything more than a correlation which means next to nothing. A correlation is not causation, especially when just about anything can be correlated. I not only find your hypothesis weak in itself, I find it irresponsible and lacking in true scientific merit.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

There are 330 references on the NOTMILK homepage. Click on the reference icon to review a list of the science discussed in "MILK-The Deadly Poison." There is detailed information contained in the hundreds of letters on this guestbook page.

"Correlations" have induced Surgeon Generals to include CANCER warnings on cigarette packages and products containing saccharin. There is no real mechanism explaining how cigarette smoking and saccharine ingestion actually cause cancers.

With milk and dairy products, there is an absolute reason that the countries consuming the highest rates of milk and dairy products also have the highest rates of breast cancer. Breast cancer is quite common. While only one percent of women between the ages of 40 and 50 are clinically diagnosed with breast cancer, thirty-nine percent actually have breast cancer. It is controlled by a remarkable immune system, still not fully understood. What is understood is that those tight genetic controls are released by the most powerful growth hormone in the human body, Insulin-like growth factor, or IGF-I. This hormone is exactly alike between humans and cows. Both versions contain 70 amino acids in the same exact gene sequence.

Drink a 12 ounce glass of milk and double the amount of the one hormone making breast cancer grow...the key factor in the groth and proliferation of every human cancer.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Cara Volponi
Website:
Referred by: From LinkExchange
From: Simsbury, CT
Time: 1998-06-17 23:14:58
Comments: I had no idea. Luckily for me, I don't drink and never really have drunk milk; I take my calcium from Tums..so as long as that is digestible I don't need milk:)

Name: Jenn Lyndon
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Southern California
Time: 1998-06-17 22:27:57
Comments: I heard you on KFI with John & Ken and found your arguments pretty good and sound. Even animal rights groups like PETA say that drinking milk is not good for you. Like most people, I thought how the hell can milk be bad for you. But then I heard your responses and now am second guessing reaching for a glass of milk since I LOVE milk and dairy products (cheese). Thank you for going against the tide and I will be purchasing your book. J. Lyndon

Name: Wilson Sharpe
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: NYC
Time: 1998-06-17 19:44:17
Comments: I heard the tail end of your (Mr. Cohen) conversation this morning on WBAI here in NYC while I was driving my car.

Name: Darlene Newton
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: San Jacinto, California
Time: 1998-06-17 09:51:45
Comments: Thank you for trying to educate America. I heard you on John and Ken the other day. Today I told my daughter about the pus and I thought she would be sick in the car. I have been one of those " bad " mothers that would never let my childeren have a glass of milk. The only time they could have it was on thier ceral. Well I guess its time to go to the health food store for the rice drink for that. Again thank you.

Name: B. Derek Henry
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Manila, Arkansas
Time: 1998-06-17 08:01:13
Comments: Interesting concepts. I did like milk & cheese, now Bessie can keep her milk for her own calves. B. Derek Henry

Name: Justin
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Maine
Time: 1998-06-17 07:38:39
Comments: I looked at your site thoroughly, and this is the biggest bunch of bull I have ever heard! If what U say is true, why isn't the government having whole shows dedicated to this junk! All I have to say is............GET A LIFE!

Name: Nan Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Eugene, Or.
Time: 1998-06-17 05:16:19
Comments: I liked what I read and have never been much of a milk drinker but I would have to do more research to be sure of what you say.

Name: Tyler Densley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Utah
Time: 1998-06-17 03:23:40
Comments: All my life i had horrible asthma and allergies to the point to where i could not breath at night. In 5th grade I was vegetarian and i decided to try veganism. The next year during alergy season, I felt almost no problems. I could run without the support of an asthma inhailer. People should realize that milk does not do a body good. I am going to order your book and use the knowlege inclosed to help those in need of guidence.

Name: Austin A. Brown
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Newport News VA
Time: 1998-06-17 02:05:49
Comments: How could somthing so bad taste so good? Never the less my milk drinking days are over.

Name: Stewart Cassidy
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Prescott, AZ
Time: 1998-06-16 13:02:42
Comments: Please consider making condensed version of the book available in brochures. There are lots of people that need to be informed.

Name: Ron Erak
Website: GMI Media Group/Seattle
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Seattle
Time: 1998-06-16 11:41:24
Comments: I "had" mineares disease...supposidly an incurable disease. No doctors could help...went off of dairy and 2 years later (also went off meat and animal products) and it got well. Then I went back on the junk a few years later and it all came back...hope this helps someone suffering for no reason, except a bad habit of dairy.

Name: Sigi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: L.A.
Time: 1998-06-16 11:36:20
Comments: Heard you briefly on the John and Ken show today. I am very glad you are doing this. I became a vegan after I realized that my nursing baby was only screaming so much because I was passing the lactose on to her through the breastmilk, and she had trouble digesting it. Was I a happy mom when I finally switched to soymilk and my baby suckled happily ever after without fussing. But.. was I a mad mom when I found out what icky stuff is found in cows milk but yet we are still being forcefed with information that without milk life is not worth living. (Both my kids have been on soyproducts for over 5 years now and they are the healhiest, strongest and smartest kids you can ever imagine. And so am I of course). I hope very much your information will reach and change a lot of people all over the globe.

Name: Susan Grenier
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Vacaville, CA
Time: 1998-06-16 11:12:49
Comments: Heard you interviewed today on the radio, and thought you may want to know since my granddaughter (4 yrs.) has been limited to only two glasses of milk per day, her appetite's back, and she is no longer constipated, a chronic condition she has suffered from since getting off of breast milk. The difference in the child is remarkable. I just wonder if 2 glasses are still too much.

Name: Barbara Metzler
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: New Jersey
Time: 1998-06-16 09:04:35
Comments: I admire your determination. So few people have the vision to see problems, and the ones that do, are too overwhelmed by life to even try to fight. There are so many things in the world that hurt us, and we have the FDA to thank for many of them. I can't believe that the people in our government are so blind that they can't see or don't care how their actions affect Americans and others in the world. I never did care for milk and I never pushed it on my children. Thank goodness. My daughter has been incapacitated by NutraSweet 2 1/2 times during the past 12 years. I am trying to help Mission Possible, but it's not easy. I feel like I'm beating my head against a wall. I give Betty and Dave, etc. so much credit. And, I give you so much credit.

Name: David Wethington
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Time: 1998-06-16 07:19:19
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen, I suggest that you contact Art Bell, the late night talk show host to see about getting some air time. You can reach him via e-mail at: http://www.artbell.com He has a fix number but I can't find it at this time. If you listen to his show, you'll hear it announced. Hope this helps, David Wethington

Name: j. watkins
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: fayetteville, nc
Time: 1998-06-16 06:30:31
Comments: i heard about your site on the radio (john and ken talk show). there is no doubt that milk is not safe. i know we have heard a thousand times, it was good for me, blah blah blah..... we must realize that farming practices have gone high tech? farmers are unnaturally realizing enormous gains, but at whose cost? the answer is ours todays milk is not the same as the milk from ol'bessie from 75 years ago. the safest and healthiest way is to go vegan. noting that even veggies have some chemicals in them. but animals and animal products have the chemicals that is in the grain fed to them, and the chemicals that they are given by the "good" farmer. you get it both ways. we must realize that the got milk commercials are written and produced to SELL milk nothing else......do not even confuse them with a public service announcment. as a last note i would like to recommend that everyone read the book "A DIET FOR A NEW AMERICA" by John Robbins (note : he is the heir to the baskins-robbins ice cream fortune, noteX2: he turned his back on the ice cream and the money) if this web page shocked you then this book will chill your blood

Name: Patrick Melendy
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Springfield, Oregon
Time: 1998-06-16 06:17:28
Comments: Just heard you today on the "John and Ken Show" -- got me pretty freaked out since I have a 17 month old son who drinks whole milk. Just don't know what to do since my Dr. tells us to give him whole millk. I will print out your home page and talk to him at his next check up. Thanks for the good information.

Name: dee ryant jr.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: alaska
Time: 1998-06-16 04:52:55
Comments: I think you are full of crap!!!!!!! If dairy products are so bad for us, then why does the government allow the sale of it? Also if it is so bad, why dont people bring lawsuits against the dairy industry? My wife has diebetis, would you be willing to help us bring suit against the dairy industry, to have them pay??

Name: Laura Lin Hackney
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Eugene, Oregon, Native LB, CA
Time: 1998-06-16 04:43:23
Comments: I just want to thank you for spreading the word regarding the hazards of drinking milk. Personally I was raised on milk and never knew the harms until I took a vegetarian lifestyle class, where I learned the truth in the film "A Diet for A New America." I would like to urge you to keep up the good work. My son has allergies and asthma and I have taken him off milk and substituted with soy milk, etc. Do you have any info on Asthma or Allergies linked to milk. Also what are some other substitutes I can use for the protein he won't get from milk. Again, thank you for the fight to educate America.

Name: Marcel HEBBELINCK
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Brussels, Belgium
Time: 1998-06-15 19:36:24
Comments: I am a physiologist/nutritionist teaching and making scientific studies on the relationship between nutrition, haelth and fitness. I am also president of the European Vegetarian Union including about 100 vegearian societies in Europe. Your publication preview on milk is very interesting and I may well order your book.Some of the facts are familiar to me because of the publications of Dr. Atwood, a US pediatrician.In Europe we also have some rearch related to the topic of the dangers of consuming cow's milk (some of them published in French).Also the book written by Walter Veith "Diet&Health - New scientific perspectives" (1992, Cape Town: SPA, ISBN 3-8047-1468-4) has a very good chapter on milk and dairy products.

Name: Dave RIetz
Website: DORway to Discovery! Say NO to aspartame (a.k.a. Equal etc.)
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Goose Creek, SC
Time: 1998-06-14 22:25:47
Comments:

It is ever so interesting to see that the "worlds greatest"
(self-anointed) "experts" who throw insults, dwell on isolated
points, and attempt to impress your guest-book readers... rarely
have a full name, a valid Email address, or any visible credentials.

One has to consider that anyone with REAL knowledge and/or proof
that you present false or misleading information... would be happy
crow about their own credentials, accomplishments, and "proof".

Shades of industry/FDA PROOF that "aspartame is a safe food additive".
(In fact, it cannot be a diet aid nor was it ever proven safe)

Especially so, considering that Posilac (bovine growth hormone or BGH) and
aspartame are made by the same company! The consumers need to wake up
to the fact that far too much of what they drink and eat is NOT healthy
(or safe)... and it is getting worse fast!!!

They need to realize they MUST watch congress, the USDA, FDA... and even
the President! Read, read, read... and then react as a citizen must.

Name: Cliff
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1998-06-14 09:56:21
Comments: Robert, your reasoning on just about everything is both flawed, irresponsible and very dangerous. Your main argument on hormones contained in milk leading to tumor growth is sheer hogwash or straight up ignorance (pick one). Once again trying to deceive, you list a whole list of references, to avoid being confronted on the 1 study neccessary, which you do not have. Cite a study that examines the level of the various hormones circulating in the blood stream after milk is ingested. I read the footnotes, and you do not have it, nor is their ANY study out there supporting your weak claims. The truth of the matter is, for these hormones to be what you say "potentially dangerous" you would have to be taking your milk through daily subcutaneous injections, AND for an extended amount of time. It is impossible for hormones (chemical messengers) to be taken in orally in reaching your bloodstream. If you had a background in Endocrinology, or Oncology, you'd be laughing at yourself.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Cliff,

I am not laughing at myself and I am not laughing at you and I am not laughing at most endocrinologists who would come to the same conclusion as you did, although it might be appropriate to now do a little laughing.

QUESTION:

How many endocrinologists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

ANSWER:

None...because there has never been a study published in the Journal of Endocrinology supporting the existance of lightbulbs.

You don't get it, do you, Cliff? When I met with FDA scientists on April 21, 1995 they didn't get it either. I heard the same conclusion that you expressed in your letter.

"These protein hormones do not work," the scientists told me.

"Gentlemen," I asked. "Does a nursing human mother pass on anything to her nursing baby?"

"Absolutely not," was their collective response. "Hormones are destroyed by gastric enzymatic activity," was their explanation.

I then asked about lactoferins and immunoglobulins. Their response, contradicting something that pediatricians and nursing mothers everywhere agree upon (supported by hundreds of studies published in peer-reviewed journals) is that breastfeeding provides absolutely nothing by psychological and nurturing benefit, nothing more. "It's not possible," they state.

I have explained, in great detail, the mechanism by which protein hormones survive digestion. I also provide enormous scientific literature to support my theory of those mechanisms. It's all in my book, "MILK: The Deadly Poison."

Whoever designed this substance saw to it that milk would be a hormonal delivery system. That wisdom, whether you believe in God or Mother Nature or evolution or simply a Universal Intellignce...that wisdom created a mechanism which protects immunoglobulins and lactoferins and hormones so that the "PERFECT FORMULA" for each individual species contains substances which function to "protect" that infant.

Cliff...you would have me believe, by suggesting that I learn and "laugh at myself," that part of the MASTER PLAN for our design and health, which begins with one cell, invisible to the naked eye, containing blueprints for a trillion different cells which will one day function to produce a thousand-trillion chemical and electrical reactions every second, includes drinking body fluids from another species of animal. That conclusion would be something to truly laugh about.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: janice
Website:
Referred by: From LinkExchange
From: nj, usa
Time: 1998-06-13 10:21:12
Comments: great info. just what i was looking for. very well written.

Name: Barbara Hoffman
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ohio
Time: 1998-06-11 08:02:59
Comments: I read all your info, but am not sure if I agree with it. Truthfully, it is the first time I ever heard that milk is not good for you. But it is food for thought, I must admit.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Barbara,

Certainly NOT food for thought! Try a little experiment please. Go five days and eat no dairy at all. Pay careful attention to how your body feels, particularly your digestion. Then, on day six PIG OUT on milk and dairy products. Start your day with yogurt, have a cheese sandwich for a snack, a few slices of pizza for lunch with a milkshake, some cookies and milk followed by a big bowl of ice cream.

Call me in the morning. I guarantee you'll notice the difference and you're not going to like what you observe. You will, however, become your own doctor. You'll ask, "Is this what's been doing this to me all of these years?" The answer is YES!!!

HINT: Make certain that you have a good supply of toliet paper...you'll need it!

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Juliette Ochieng
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: LA
Time: 1998-06-10 22:49:09
Comments: Thank you for your information. I'm African American and, as you know, many of us are lactose intolerant. I have a relative who has constant stomach upset and drinks a lot of milk. Trying to get her to stop drinking it is like pulling teeth, due to the brain-washing that the milk producers have given most of us. You efforts are helping to rid us of the notion that milk 'does a body good' and, hopefully will help convince my relative that she should give up the milk habit. Again, thanks.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Juliette,

Ninety-percent of African-Americans cannot tolerate lactose. The government knows this and continues to promote milk to minorities by providing billions of pounds of free milk to kids in inner city school systems. The dairy industry knows this and hires black role models to pose with milk pustaches and in doing so they betray their own race.

The May, 1995 issue of the Townsend letter for doctors listed eleven symptoms among milk and dairy users. These symptoms include irritibility, depression and mood swings. After this newsletter (written by doctors for doctors) was published I noticed more billboards extolling the virtues of milk in the inner cities. I noticed more African-American athletes and models posing for these ads.

Since milk affects those with black skin more negatively than those with white skin, and the FDA and dairy industry are aware of this...and efforts to market this product to African-American children have increased...what are we to conclude?

Regrds,

The Notmilkman


Name: Francine Tkalec
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Ont. Canada
Time: 1998-06-10 07:26:22
Comments: I think I've finally been given the final push to become Vegan.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Francine,

I've often wondered why those vegetarians who claim to be compassionate about animals support the consumption of dairy products. There are truly no ethical vegetarians eating dairy products. True compassion to animals can only be practiced by VEGANS.

Compassion to animals should be a concern of all humans. However, compassion to your own body and health is the best reason to refrain from eating all milk and dairy products.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Roxanne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ontario, Canada
Time: 1998-06-10 01:43:09
Comments: I am still trying to convince my friend to give up milk and not to give it to her children. Great site. I will definately pass it on to her, and hopefully she'll believe me about all the CRAP that's in milk!!!!

Name: Lotus Bickerton
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: manhattan
Time: 1998-06-09 14:01:05
Comments: I heard your lecture at an Earthsave meeting in Long Island. You were great. Anyway, I have been a vegan for over 20yrs. myself and I can tell you that as difficult as it has been at times not to consume dairy products, I believe that I am continually reaping wonderful benefits both spiritually and physically. I think that you are very courageous to speak out publically in front of the world and all the powerful people that are against you. There's a lot more than money involved here. People see food as survival and love, and they don't like their diets being reviewed and criticized. For some unknown reason, most folks don't make the distinction between mother's milk and cows milk. They don't realize that a cows milk is for a calf, and a goats milk is for a baby goat. I don't think that this is a difficult concept, but you are stepping on a lot of toes here. Anyway, I support your philosophy and courage to speak out. I myself have been very quiet about my veganism all these years. I am a personal fitness trainer and if you ever need my services I would be more than happy to help you get into shape-at least in the gym. I work mainly on the upper westside in the 90's. Thanks again for all your hard work. Lotus

Name: Sam
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Maryland
Time: 1998-06-09 02:22:33
Comments: Your website was very informative. I thought I was lactose intolerant, but your information gives me reason to believe that my problem may have to do with more than just lactose. Thank you. It's nice to see the truth, for a change.

Name: Mr. Q
Website: The Valley of Wind
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Connecticut
Time: 1998-06-08 01:08:44
Comments: Ecxellant to find a site with such pertiant information on dairy. So many ignorant beings go around drinking, eating.. LIVING on fluids of canibalistic, and diseased animals. What is wrong with them, I wonder? Well, maybe if they were to read what you have listed here, they would think twice about sipping that tall glass of yummy (Yeah right), and satisfying (we are getting pretty funny now) milk. :P

Name: Bob Friedrich
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Central Illinois
Time: 1998-06-05 23:12:33
Comments: Please need me more information, thanks Bob Friedrich RR 1 Box 344a Heyworth, Il 61745

Name: Linda Deml-Drahota
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Minneapolis, MN
Time: 1998-06-05 23:06:04
Comments: I sent you a separate e-mail based on our visit while you were at the Whole Life Expo in Minneapolis. Look forward to hearing from you.

Name: Anthony Rimoli
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York
Time: 1998-06-05 10:35:15
Comments: I saw you speak on May 26th at the L.I. Earth Save meeting & was very impressed at all the research that you've done on this important subject. I thought everyone might be interested in a very interesting article that I just came across the other day regarding rBGH on the web-site of the "Natural Foods Merchandiser" magazine. The article is titled "Journalists Fired For Investigating rBGH Sue Fox TV". The article details what happened when 2 reporters investigated several dairy farms in Florida where rBGH was used & what they found. They also took some video of mass injections of the hormone into hundreds of cows. The article can be found on the web-site (www.nfm-online.com/nfm_backs/Jun_98/jun98news.html) if anyone is interested in reading it. It basically validates & confirms what Robert Cohen says in his book with the cover-up between the FDA & Monsanto.

Name: Dr. Twogood
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Sunny California
Time: 1998-06-05 09:15:08
Comments: Dear Robert, Your book is well researched and true, true, sad but true. I have been aware of milk the deadly poison for 12 years since I discovered (as a chiropractor) that most neck pain, back pain, and headaches are caused by casein, the main protein in milk and dairy foods. Keep up the good work. Daniel A. Twogood, D.C.

Name: john & jill powell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: colorado
Time: 1998-06-05 07:35:54
Comments: I heard you on the American Freedom Network

Name: Jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Alaska
Time: 1998-06-05 03:49:21
Comments: Mr. Cohen, i had to tell you that i am losing all respect for you very quickly. you do not answer direct questions to you, you do not reply to e-mails that have logic and good points and you delete messages and parts of messages to make people look foolish and uneducated. and you do not read before you make accurate deletions or comments and you drift from topics that need to be addressed, basically you are narrow minded and do not listen to points brought up against you, brushing them off saying the people are ignorant. if you delete this message it will only prove that you are hiding what you cannot defend. Regards...Jeremiah

Name: Kristen Beam
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Eagan, Minnesota
Time: 1998-06-01 20:34:50
Comments: I heard Robert Cohen lecture at the Whole Life Expo in St Paul, Minnesota this past weekend. Many of the things he had to say were shocking and made me think about what kinds of scary things we put into our bodies. Thank you Robert Cohen for making the public aware.

Name: Kim Gorall
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Rochester, NY
Time: 1998-06-01 06:44:49
Comments: I'm a veganism/animal rights activist, and found your site because it is linked to the Animal Defense League of Rochester's site. Thanks for the info, and I'll be ordering your book!

Name: Timothy Dutton
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Mississippi
Time: 1998-05-31 08:16:18
Comments: Can you please discredit this misguided fool that visits the vegan board. I believe milk is a major contributor to breast cancer, but he is stubborn.

Name: Susan Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada
Time: 1998-05-29 02:58:33
Comments: AMEN!!! Tell the world about the lies and deceptions perpetrated by the dairy industry. My mother was a wise woman and didn't feed me milk, and I have been very healthy and active all my life. Also, my fiance has just stopped drinking milk, and his digestive difficulties cleared right up... that's no accident. I wish everyone would hear about this.

Name: Maria E. Carignan
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Florida
Time: 1998-05-28 09:13:31
Comments: Hi, I signed the guestbook right after I saw the NotMilk on Fox in Tampa, Florida. So, where is it, I have been looking for an hour and my comment is nowhere to be found. I am Lactose Intolerant/ soy/peanut intolerant which pretty much takes up most of our food from restaurants and markets. I have in the last 4 1/2 yrs taken all these products out of my diet. You see with me (THEY CAUSE MIGRAINE HEADACHES). It took me over 50 years to figure out why I was so miserable and moody all the time and had trouble living with myself let alone my family and these products were the cause all along. They are poison to most of us probably, but most are not willing to accept this fact and close their minds to this type of news. Thanks heavens I was willing to learn and thank god for all those wonderful chiropractors and nutritionists out there who know more about the human body than most doctors do, they saved me with their bits of information and I feel great now unless I consume one of these forbidden foods, I'm instantly sick when I do. Loved the Tampa show and hope to see you on again soon. Thanks for waking up the world, it may take awhile for them to get the point but eventually some will just as I did.

Name: Michele
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Anaheim, CA
Time: 1998-05-27 04:06:54
Comments: I found your page thru some vegetarian or vegan oriented pages and was interested at first. The more pages of your guest- book I read, the more saddened and disappointed I was at all the infighting and mudslinging going on. Eliminating dairy is a good idea, but when the personalities get involved instead of the real issue, it REALLY turns people off. Good luck spreading your message--you have helped me in my journey towards veganism.

Name: jennifer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Cleveland, Ohio
Time: 1998-05-26 21:54:44
Comments: I am researching for a paper for my English class at Cleveland State University- I am trying to locate your book. I share many of your thoughts and beliefs on the subject of rBGH. I have children too and this issue is extremely important for the public to be aware of since milk is constantly stressed as an "important part" of an infant's diet. I commend you for your persistance to ban this practice of torturing the dairy cows and using humans as guinea pigs for Monsanto's greedy desires.My mother and I have done many things to make the public aware of this situation and will continue to do so. Keep up your fight- many people are behind you!!!

Name: Kevin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-05-26 16:41:56
Comments: I think it was Dateline that had a segment last night about how male breast cancer rates have increased by 50% during the period 1993 to 1997. When did Posilac (rBGH) go on the market?

It is my understanding that the FDA approved this product in 1994.
However, the FDA actually approved it for commercial use in 1990, with
something called "Zero day withdrawal" It is my understanding that this
meant it could be pooled with OTHER milk... immediately.
Of interest is that the FDA seems to have been more worried about the
bovine system... then the human consumers. (WEBmaster)


Name: Dennis Mihalka
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Redding, California
Time: 1998-05-25 14:53:39
Comments: I have been on an extensive literature search (over 4,000 articles in the last 2 years) on the subject "Early infant allergies" and milk is the #1 culprit. Related complications include: eczema, congestion, otitis media (ear infections), mouth breathing, orthodontic problems, most nasal structural deficiencies (deviated septum, blockages etc.) and lifetime allergies. Other new research is pointing to the possibility of ADD/Obsessive behavior and dyslexia as being an autoimmune disease, I believe it is immune related but to the reaction to milk consumed by mother while baby is developing in utero. I believe this model also explains the development of other so called auto immune diseases including insulin dependent diabetes melitis, lupus, and many other so called immune caused diseases. If you wish to talk, email me.

Name: Kathleen Goldin
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-05-24 20:50:48
Comments: Hello Robert! We saw you speak last night at EarthSave LI. You were terrific. (So was your sushi!!) We thought we would check out your website for additional infomation. See ya soon! Kathleen Goldin

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Kathleen,

What an incredible group of people! Once each month between 150 and 200 vegetarians meet for a potluck feast and fellowship. I was lucky enough to attend!

My family rolled 20 portions of homemade (VEGAN) sushi...it's an easy task to learn and quite a bit of fun to do. Each portion contained more calcium than an equal portion of milk and more protein than an equal amount of steak! Here's how we made the sushi. First we made the rice. Use three parts water to two parts Japanese sushi rice (small round grains). Once the water boils we add the rice, turn down the heat and steam for 15 minutes. When the water is absorbed we remove the rice from the heat and add a mixture of two tablespoons of sugar and two tablespoons of rice vinegar to each cup of raw rice. We then refrigerate the rice. We like to create a rainbow effect of different stuffings for the sushi. We used (white) lotus root, (orange) steamed carrots, (yellow) pickled daikon radish, (red) pickled ginger, (dark green) salted bok choy, (light green) steamed long Chinese string beans, (beige) crispy fried tofu, (brown) tempeh.

Take one roll of nori (dried seaweed) and add a handful of rice...pat down (wetting your hands). Spread a small amount of wasabi (green horseradish) and sprinkle liberally with sesame seeds. Then cut thin strips of all of the above vegetable and soy products, layer them together and roll the sushi. It is a skill that one learns rather quickly. We ended up with about 150 pieces and they disappeared rather quickly. This morning guess what I was requested by my three daughters to make for breakfast? I was happy to oblige! It takes a little longer than milk and cereal but it tastes a lot better and is much healthier.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name: Patricia Najafabadi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Pittsburgh, Pa
Time: 1998-05-24 04:54:04
Comments: Thank you for the information. I am going to buy the book.

Name: cathy goeggel
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: honolulu
Time: 1998-05-24 01:14:33
Comments: Excellent information: I shall recommend your site to our local AR & Veg lists.

Name: Andora
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Big Bear, CA
Time: 1998-05-23 08:46:36
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgb.dbm-->I heard you on the John & Ken show, also, Robert and now I have my daughter drinking West Soy and Rice Dream. She also is not eating any dairy. I actually prefer these things myself. My daugher was diagnosed with extremely large juvenile fibroadenoma. They don't know how it start, but that it is fed by hormones. that is why I took her off dairy, thinking that maybe we can retard the growth of this benign breast tumor (the doctors recommend entire mastectomy as a "preventative" measure, although there is no correlation between fibroadenomas and breast cancer (she is 16!). SOOOOOOOOOOOO, we will try this alternative. Thanks for your perspicacity and intelligence.

NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT:

Dear Andora,

I am not a doctor and it would be foolish of me to offer medical advice. I can only tell you how I would react if my wife or any one of my three daughters had such a benign tumor. These fibroadenomas grow to become functioning glands. How and why they appear is a mystery. I believe that there is a hormonal link. You do NOT want to have your young daughter taking birth control pills at age ten and you do not want her ingesting hormones from any other source. Such benign tumors often occur during pregnancy when a woman produces larger amounts of steroid hormones. To eat these hormones each day from cow's milk is something that I do not recommend.

Now for the advice that I would give my family. I would explain that these fibroadenomas become functioning glands and manufacture a powerful growth hormone called insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I). While most of these tumors do not grow larger than an inch, some might grow to a much greater size. Once they stop growing, they still continue to manufacture this most powerful growth hormone. My advice to my family then, would be to have that benign tumor removed as soon as possible. I would suggest that you discuss my opinion with your doctor.

At one time it was believed that IGF-I worked only in an endocrine function. Now it is accepted that IGF-I can be the mechanism that works to "turn-on" dormant tumors. IGF-I works as an autocrine and paracrine manner as well.

Breast cancer is quite common. While one-percent of women between the ages of 40 and 50 are clinically diagnosed with breast cancer, 39 percent actually have it. (NY Times, 11/8/94, P. C-I). Cancers are quite common, usually controlled by our miraculous immune systems. The key factor in their growth and proliferation is IGF-I. Cow's milk is loaded with IGF-I.

Regards,

The NOTMILKMAN


Name:
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ohio
Time: 1998-05-22 02:31:05
Comments: These are some of the crazierst claims I have ever heard. Your argument is poorly based. Why should I not drink milk just because some people are lactose intolerant? Isn't that kinda stupid?

table cell background color -->
table cell background color --> NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:

insert comments after this --> Dear John,

You've got 400 letters to read... and perhaps my book.

Lactose is just one of 100+ components in milk that add together to make milk a deadly poison. Add cholesterol, fat, powerful growth hormones and allergenic proteins.

I suggest that each of these components is reason enough not to drink the body fluids from another species of animal. Add them all together and you have a drink that can be blamed for ill health.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Alaska
Time: 1998-05-21 02:05:42
Comments: Mr. Cohen,

Not all people are lactose intolerant, those who are do something that lactose intolerant people do THEY DON'T DRINK MILK! Jeremiah

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insert comments after this --> Dear Jeremiah,

I noticed that you surfed in from Alaska. There are only about 600,000 people living in your state and four percent of them or about twenty-four thousand are black. America's population includes thirty-five million African Americans.

Since 90-95% of African Americans cannot tolerate lactose, (about thirty-two million so sickened) how do you think that Spike Lee, Naomi Campbell, Patrick Ewing, Tyra Banks, Florence Griffith Joyner and Dennis Rodman were fooled into betraying their own race by wearing those milk-pustaches? Why does the dairy industry encourage the use of their product among people who have no idea that it makes them ill? Is that nice? Is it ethical?

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Name: Edie James
Website: <
Referred by: Net Search
From: Sacramento, California
Time: 1998-05-20 05:54:29
Comments: I heard you on the John and Ken show. I was horrified at what you said about milk. I am also thankful that you have this information and are trying to get it out. I just bought your book from Barnes and Nobel. I told my 12 year old about the information and she is now drinking Rice Dream, so am I. Milk is not a part of our diet now. Thank you Mr. Cohen.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Edie,

You'll be much happier and healthier, having made that decision. If ever you "slip" and eat that slice of pizza or a double scoop of ice cream, I'd like for you to note the incredible difference in your body. Pay careful attention to the next twelve hours of a more difficult digestive process. Listen to those signals from your body.

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Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-05-20 03:03:49
Comments: I have found a few things interesting. I read a book called "Toxin" by Robin Cook, a doctor in his own right. It described the process of butchering a cow, and how E. Coli gets into the meat. E. Coli is a horrible disease that could be removed from the face of the earth if only the slaughtering houses would pay attention to the cows they accept. The disease is killed by simple cooking of the meat, but if it is not cooked all the way through, the bacteria survives and goes into the human. It appears that the industry is at fault, along with plain human neglect. Maybe if the milk industry was simplified and companys like Monsato were not allowed to have an influence, many foods would be safe. rBGH is EXTREMELY nasty and I will not drink any milk that does not have a rBGH free sticker on the top. I TOTALLY agree with you there. It is sad that industries ruin perfectly good products. But with such areas as antibiotics, they do a good job. I have found a report about the million\billion issue. It states the antibiotics percentage allowed is 1 part per billion. Also, if people entirely accept your facts in the U. S. A., what will happen to the over 5 million people whose jobs are entirely dependent on milk? 5 million jobs don't appear OVERNIGHT. I suspect that the stock market will go down a long way, and we may have a recession or even a depression on our hands. Do you enjoy doing that? Or why not stop at milk? Get rid of the beef industry too! After all, doesn't beef contain fat, protein, pus, and all those other nasties that you complain about too? LET'S ELIMINATE AN ENTIRE SPECIES already. That must be great fun. Also, do you believe in conspiracies? Let's see, the FDA, Monsato, and the USDA are conspiring to make money off of milk, and the World Health Organization conspired to poison Africa with iodine. What's next?Regards........Phoenix

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insert comments after this --> Dear Neuman,

Conspiracy? Yes, a conspiracy of ignorance. The FDA, Monsanto and the Dairy industry can easily show whether I am wrong or not. All they have to do is release the results of one scientific study performed by Searle for Monsanto in 1989. That study was authored by Richard, Odaglia and Deslex. The animals got cancer from the new additive that is now in the milk and cheese and butter that Americans eat.

FDA assured Americans that there were no biological effects on laboratory animals from this new genetically engineered hormone.

I filed a freedom of information act request and could not get the study released. I went to federal court and could not get the study released. What do you think they're hiding, Neuman?

Portions of that study were published in the August 24, 1990 issue of the Journal SCIENCE. You can probably obtain the paper in your local library. If you examine table #1 you will find that the average spleen weights of animals treated with the hormone increased 40% over the control group.

You ask me what will happen to the five million people employed in the dairy industry if people stop drinking milk and become healthy? Wow... what a trade off. What happened to all of the people employed by asbestos manufacturers? What happened to all of the people employed in the barbed wire business? How about those folks who build land mines or packaged napalm into bombs. Gosh... ya gotta feel sorry for those folks who were laid off from the diethyl-stilbesterol production line.

I feel sorry for the poppy growers and heroin processors who are put out of business and the cocaine growers, and of course the tobacco growers. What will happen to the tobacco growers? What will happen to those scientists who refine weapon grade plutonium? They've got kids and they gotta eat too.

You just don't get it, do you?

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Name: Sally P
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: PA
Time: 1998-05-19 23:54:38
Comments: Kudos! I heard Robert Cohen this morning on WWII 720AM. What was shared and what was written makes perfect sense. The link between the garbage in milk to the diseases present today makes you wonder "what are they thinking?!" I am all for businesses turning a profit, but when the health and well being of our fellow human beings is sacrifaced for that dollar, it is a crime.

Name: Jeffrey Moline
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: los angeles
Time: 1998-05-19 22:57:59
Comments: Dear Notmilkman: Recently I took a class in Washington DC, on communications, for my day job. On the last day we had to do a 15 minute presentation on something we felt passionate about. All week long people had been poking fun at my diet (vegan), so I chose nutrition. I told them that if they were going to change only one aspect of their current diet to improve their life and health, it should be dairy. I gave them facts from your webpage and your book. I gave them wholesome alternatives to dairy, and the best foods to assimilate calcium from. At the end of my presentation I had so many questions from the audience that my time ran out and I wrote on the white board "www.notmilk.com" People are hungry for the truth. Thank you for arming us with the facts, so that all of us who chose to can try to make a difference. Jeffrey

Name: Dan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Earth
Time: 1998-05-18 21:51:47
Comments: I feel sorry for anyone who believes these distortions and misinformation. It is very sad when people lie and cheat to make money in this world. The thought of anyone believing sutch claims about milk is crazy, but there are people who believe this. That is sad. There are soo many gulible people in this world.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Dan,

I agree with you. It is sad.

Let's see... ninety-five percent of African Americans cannot tolerate lactose so the dairy industry hires a black director, Spike Lee, black athletes like Dennis Rodman, and Patrick Ewing, models like Naomi Campbell and dozens of actors and actresses and other African-American celebrities to wear milkstaches so that these "role models" are "USED" to betray their own race.

What else is sad? Monsanto (maker of the new genetically engineered hormone) got their top dairy scientists (Margaret Miller & Suzanne Sechen) hired by FDA to review their own research. They then got their attorney (Michael Taylor Esq.) hired by FDA to write the laws governing the use of all genetically engineered products. They then bribed members of Congress (Gunderson, Dooley, Volkmen and Pombo) while these cretins were stalling a bill (in committee) that was intended to label milk containing the new genetically engineered hormone.

FDA then told America that milk was safe to drink because pasteurization destroyed most of the genetically engineered hormone that caused cancer in lab animals (in a study authored by Richard, Odaglia and Deslex).

They based that conclusion on a study authored by Groenewegen, McBride, Elsasser and Burton. These pathetic scientists heated milk for 30 minutes at a temperature reserved for a 15 second heat treatment, which ended up destroying only nineteen percent of the hormone, yet concluded that nearly all of it was destroyed.

Hey Dan! I've mentioned the names of more than a dozen people who have sold a part of their integrity for dollars. Do you think that any one of them will sue me?

NOT!!!

I dare them or any of the players in this fraud to knock that "container" of milk off of my shoulder.

Go ahead, make my day!


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Name: Dr. Erica Kasprzyk
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-05-18 09:13:46
Comments: I'm a subscriber to the women's fitness magazine Shape and the May issue had a horrible article about drinking milk being necessary for women to get the necessary calcium! It was pitiful and I wrote a very detailed letter to the editor explaining why they were very wrong. I guess the fact that there's "Drink Milk" ads in their magazine wouldn't have any influence? It was just lousy because they come across as reporting on the latest health information and most people who don't know otherwise take it at face value. I got your address from National Vaccine Information Center. Good on you in your research! I'm a chiropractor and I'll be glad to send my future patients to your website for more info @ "NOTMILK"! Dr. K.

Name: Brindle
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Dallas
Time: 1998-05-18 09:04:04
Comments: Thank you for providing this information! I have been a vegan for 1.5 years and a vegetarian for 2.5. I became a vegetarian for moral reasons and became a vegan for the same animal rights reasons. The thought of dairy products basically disgusts me so I have not had trouble staying away from them. However I was not aware of the information you have put forth on this site. I am disgusted and enlightened by this and I thank you!

Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-05-18 08:28:18
Comments: If too much iodine in bad for someone, why do they fortify table salt with iodine?

Wayne

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insert comments after this --> Dear Wayne,

If we all ate healthy foods such additives would not be necessary. Iodized salt came into being to prevent goiter. The human body does not require much salt and only trace amounts of iodine are contained in salt. Some countries iodize other products but salt is nearly universally used so it became the common and inexpensive means to introduce this element. In a lifetime, your body will only require about one teaspoon of iodine.

The RDA for iodine is 20 MICROGRAMS per day. There are 5 micrograms in every serving of salt. It might interest you to know that although nearly every food processor uses salt in the preparation of packaged foods, none use iodized salt.

The World Health Organization learned (the hard way) that introduction of iodized salt into third world African nations created serious medical problems. Users of this additive developed hyperthyroidism as a result of ingesting too much of this element.

Adding trace amounts of iodine to salt is a little different that bathing ulcerated udders with an iodine wash, then milking cows and having iodine seep into the milk. In the supermarket you have a choice of purchasing iodized salt or just plain salt.

When you drink milk, you have no idea what's been done to it. The UDSA and FDA should be testing the milk for iodine. They are not.

I would suggest that you explore the different sea salts and if you find CELTIC SALT you will discover the cadillac of all salt products.

TRIVIA: The ancient Romans were paid their wages in salt. The word salary actually has its roots in the Latin word, salarium, meaning salt.

As with milk... you are what you eat. Why do we tamper with our foods?

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Name: Miguel A. Hernandez
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Los Angeles, California
Time: 1998-05-17 13:32:00
Comments: I heard Mr. Cohen on Pacifica Radio Station and was impressed to find out he was a respected researcher because I want to get the full story on milk.

Name: Corrin Ochoa
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Los Angeles CA
Time: 1998-05-17 08:40:12
Comments: My daughter was diagnosed with diabetes when she was 13 months old. I wanted to know what other information you had regarding milk and diabetes. She was breastfed and had formula before she was diagnosed. She did eat yogurt and ice cream on occasion. Any information would be appreciated. There are no other cases of diabetes in the family, and we are trying to understand why she has diabetes. Thank you very much for your time.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Corrin,

You have an injured child and your anger should be directed at an industry that is armed with truth, but continues to lie to you. Direct your attention to the DAIRY INDUSTRY, for they have been aware of the following:

One million Americans have juvenile diabetes. Many researchers blame this illness on early exposure to cow's milk. Drinking cow's milk may weaken immune functions in children---
NATURE 1978; 272(5654): 632
"New studies and more than 20 well documented previous ones, have prompted one researcher to say the link between milk juvenile diabetes is very solid."
DIABETES CARE 1994; 17(12) 1381-1388
"Introduction of dairy products and high milk consumption during childhood may increase the child's risk of developing juvenile diabetes."
DIABETOLOGIA 1994; 37(4):381-387
"Diabetes does not occur in diabetes-prone rodents reared on a diet free of cow's milk for the first two to three months of life, indicating that cow's milk protein can trigger the disease.
NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE 1992; 327(5): 302
"...studies consistently showed a relationship between type one diabetes and exposure to cow's milk..."
DIABETES CARE 1994; 17(1):13-19
"Epidemiologic and serologic data in humans also suggest a relation between cow's milk and diabetes."
NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE 1992; 327(5) 302
"In several countries, a high positive correlation was found between the per capita consumption of dairy products and the risk of infant diabetes."
DIABETES 1993; 42:1786-1789
"Cow's milk protein may play a fundamental role in the development of infant diabetes.
DIABETES 1996; 45(2): 178-182
"We infer that the proteins in cow's milk may trigger the autoimmune process if infant diabetes."
DIABETES CARE 1993; 16(7) 984-989
"Bovine serum albumin (protein) detected in infant formula is a possible trigger for infant diabetes."
JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN DIABETIC ASSOCIATION 1994; 94(3): 314-316
Before his death Dr. Spock recommended that no infant under the age of one should ever consume cow's milk. As a result of Spock's commentary and the overwhelming evidence linking diabetes with the consumption of body fluids from cows, the American Academy of Pediatrics comdemned the use of cow's milk for children under one year of age.

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Name: Patricia C. Maher
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Los Angeles
Time: 1998-05-16 22:15:55
Comments: I wanted to find out about milk sold as organic. I heard Robert Cohen on KPFK and Marcos was going to ask about organic milk but time ran out. Is organic milk any better?

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Organic milk contains powerful growth hormones, fat, cholesterol and proteins which cause allergic reactions in humans.

Organic milk is the perfect food for baby cows.


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Name: Mike McLain
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Leroy Alabama
Time: 1998-05-16 08:51:17
Comments: Great site! Glad you could put this news out to everyone.

Name: Matt Austin
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Los Angeles, CA
Time: 1998-05-15 04:41:43
Comments: Your interview today (5/14/98) on KPFK Pacifica radio was very interesting, so I thought I would check out your homepage. You have given me a new perspective on milk and milk advertizing, especially the "milk PUSStaches" worn by many celebrities!

Name: Sanjay Shah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Cerritos, CA, USA
Time: 1998-05-15 03:00:13
Comments: I hear about your book on Public Radio, I will defintely buy your book, so will my father also. Thanks for writing such a book with courage.

Name: Eric K. Davis
Website: (under construction)
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Los Angeles
Time: 1998-05-14 21:49:22
Comments: I have been a vegetarian for many years and I have slowly eliminated dairy from my diet. After coming across the information you provide, I believe my progression will be much quicker. Like immediate! Keep up the good work.

Name: Janice Oest
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Orange County, California
Time: 1998-05-14 21:24:13
Comments: Heard Robert Cohen on KPFK this morning (5/14) and had my eyes opened. I gave up meat years ago because I was appalled by the U.S. consumption of the world's protein and the cattle industries clout with government. Now I guess I'm going to miss my dairy products, too. No great loss from the sounds of it :-) Thanks for the information

Name: Bruce Yaeger
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Van Nuys, CA
Time: 1998-05-14 21:12:31
Comments: Heard you on KPFK Thur May 14. Are you jumping to conclusions from incomplete or defective data?

Name: Al Gelpi
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Southern California
Time: 1998-05-14 21:09:17
Comments: You have some real good information relating health conditions to milk and dairy products. You might want to read Nathin Pritikin's book on diet, He relates heart disease here in America to when the U.S. passed the milk, egg, and dairy act in the early 1930's.

Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-05-14 03:22:25
Comments: In your response to Dale in message #386 you said that milk should be tested for iodine. How can iodine harm someone?

--Wayne

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insert comments after this --> Dear Wayne,

Dale is a milk tester. He works for the government. He asked the same question. Do you think that he's now testing milk samples for excessively unsafe levels of iodine? I hope so, for the sake of our children.

Every generation has a Wayne or Dale asking questions such as:
  • How can lead in paint harm someone?
  • How can thalidomide harm someone?
  • How can cigarette smoking harm someone?
  • How can dioxins harm someone?
  • How can nuclear radiation harm someone?

CLUE... The New York Times (11/8/94) revealed that virtually all adults over the age of 50 have cancer, primarily thyroid tumors. We know that too little iodine can result in hypothyroidism. Too much iodine can result in hyperthryroidism.

Three million Americans are affected with hypethyroidism, or Graves disease. The symptoms include nervousness, irritibility, insomnia, fatigue, rapid heartbeat and sometimes, protruding eyeballs. Barbara Bush was so affected.

If farmers are cleansing cow's udders in an iodine wash and then milking those animals the iodine could be entering the milk. Your response might be:

"Nobody has said anything bad previously."

Wayne: I'm saying it right now... Test the milk! Don't you agree?

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Name: jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Alaska
Time: 1998-05-13 04:20:49
Comments: COWS COMFORT

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Jeremiah's Poem

The food is good
The bed is warm
They trim my hoof
I sleep in a barn
Robert Cohen's answer

With hormones and all
I'm chained to a stall
Clean the rot from my feet
On a slab of concrete
I am kept on a clock
So's I don't pop
I get time to heal
What is veal?
And milked 21 times each week
But my udders, they leak!
Drip pus, from udders well hung,
It's the flesh from my young
It is quickly that I heal    
A prick don't I feel         
I'm kept healthy too
And when one drinks of my milk, one'll be healthy too
Or I'm sold to Burger King
They club me to death and I hear Angels sing.
And my skin becomes your shoe
Which is why baby cows are fed soy milk on
farms, they grow to have strong bones and
suffer no harm
I've seen others on weird stuff
And I get all in a huff
To hurt cows (and people) that way is wrong
BUT, some don't use that and keep us healthy and strong
We drink fluid from their bodies
and produce 100 antibodies
All cow's milk has hormones we take each day
In ice cream, yogurt and curds and whey
There's a circle of life that must go on
And if some follow it isn't wrong
Now, if some go left while others go right
it's only food, don't fight
You continue to struggle
when faced with the truth
Give up the dairy
Find the fountain of youth
The use of chemicals ain't right
And here's the point of what I write tonight
Not all people chemicalize,
So don't you generalize!
Not all dairymen use chemicals
like farmer Smith and Jones, so I concur
But natural cow's milk contains hormones
Don't you get it?  DUH!

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Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-05-13 03:44:03
Comments: Gutentag. It appears that I will have to ask again the questions that are coursing through my mind. Could people be different from the "average" American? Aren't all people different? Can drugs affect us differently? Do certain types of foods affect people differently? Could milk be healthy for one person, and not another? Could I go my entire life, drinking as much dairy products as I like, and not be the worse for it? Are all these things even REMOTELY possible?Regards.........Phoenix

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insert comments after this --> Dear Phoenix,

You ask rhetorical questions that do not need answering, yet, many of the "basics" which doctors base their beliefs and practices upon are severely flawed.

Of course all people are different. We are all exposed to different thoughts and environmental factors and no two sets of fingerprints, let alone bodies, are exactly alike.

With rare exceptions, all humans begin life with the same potential. Our brains and physiologies are essentially the same.

Each person becomes different, as his/her body is influenced and programmed by internal and external factors. We all start life as one tiny cell, invisible to the naked eye. As adults, we are trillions of cells living together with thousands of trillions of electrical and chemical reactions occurring every single second.

The immune system of your body is a complex interaction of chemicals and nerve impulses. Just 1/4 of an inch of your skin contains about 70 feet of "wiring."

There are few differences between a live human and a dead human. The cells are the same. The one difference is a life force, expressed in a nearly infinite formula of constant chemical and electrical reactions.

The stomach is the furnace for the fuels which feed every reaction. The UNIVERSAL WISDOM that created such a miraculous system also created a mechanism by which fuel (food) would be broken down into basic substances that could be utilized efficiently.

A developing infant, en utero, has all of her physiological needs satisfied. Food, water, oxygen, minerals, vitamins and enzymes all pass from the mother to the child. Before the birth the mother's mammary glands begin to fill with nature's perfect food for THAT child. When the child is born she should be nourished by that perfect food. A formula of immunoglobulins and lactoferins and hundreds of substances, all designed just for THAT infant! When a baby grows and teeth develop, nursing becomes painful. That's a signal to mother and child that solid food is now the perfect food. Such a signal is universal throughout the animal kingdom.

Solid foods are easily broken down by gastric enzymatic activity. The foods are broken down into their basic building blocks. Steak may take many more hours to break down than carrots, but ultimately those building blocks or amino acids are ready to be utilized by the body. They become small enough to pass through the intestinal wall where they enter the bloodstream and circulate.

Milk from a mother developed into a hormonal and immunological delivery system. That is part of the universal wisdom of such a dynamic living event.

Milk from different species of animals differ, in formula.

Adult humans were never supposed to drink human breast milk. Adult humans were never supposed to receive the same dose of lactoferins and immunoglobulins that infants receive. To do this would be to deny universal wisdom and commit universal arrogance. It would be a crime, a sin, an affront to the wisdom of life. Most adults react in disgust to the thought of drinking human breast milk. Instinctively we know that there are substances in breast milk or dog milk or rabbit milk that do not belong in our bodies. Why do we not pass that same wisdom on to cow's milk? Reflect on that.

The wisdom of a gastric pH of 1.8 allows most foods to be easily broken down into those amino acids. Are we wise to drink a 12 ouce glass of body fluids from a cow, changing that acidity to a 6.0 and buffering the gastric pH so that foods are not digested? What is the result of such ignorance? The foods ferment at 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit and the body takes much longer to digest the food. The fermentation causes gas and more acid must be secreted. The foods are not properly broken down and the body... those trillions of cells lose their ability to function.

Are all people the same? Of course not. Are all milk and dairy users affected? Of course! Are we all what we eat? That cannot be denied.

Do we all eat hormones which survive digestion if we drink milk? MOST CERTAINLY! To deny that fact is to deny that that breastfeeding passes on the many substances to the infant. To deny that hormones work is to deny the great intelligence, the Universal Wisdom that created such a system.

All species are specific and have special "keys and locks", special hormones and sites to which these hormones bind to activate fixed action responses, behaviors or activities.

The most powerfrul growth hormone in a cow's body is identical to the most powerful growth hormone in a human body. IGF-I has 70 amino acids in the same exact gene sequence in humans and cows. IGF-I has been described as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of every human cancer.

Deny the magnificence of the human body, if you wish, but the truth is here for all in their denial.

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Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-05-13 03:39:09
Comments: Greetings.Another thing. American did not actually consume 584 lbs. of dairy products. They consumed 584 lbs of milkaccording to your figures. They actually consumed about half that much. 584 lbs is actually, in your book, what may have been milk. Namely the one pound of cheese someone eats is counted as 10 lbs of dairy products. Why does this not add up?

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insert comments after this --> I have been critical of the way USDA compiles data and I make a case that our consumption of milk is at least 50% higher than USDA statistics indicate. Their bottom line (not mine) is 586 pounds. You are the only person in America who believes the number to be less.

I quote from the 1996 Food Consuption, Prices, and Expenditures book which is also cited as USDA statistical bulletin Number 928, edited by Judith Jones Putnam and Jane E. Allshouse.

Page 16 reads:

"Per capita consumption of all dairy products in 1994 came to 586 pounds."

What part of that sentence do you have trouble understanding?

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Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-05-13 03:31:55
Comments: Greetings Mr. Cohen. You mentioned one question that I asked. What about grains making you fat? I never saw an answer to that in your book..... in fact, you seem to be ignoring that altogether. Remember that for your "powerful IGF-1" to work, it must have something of GREAT energy to use, namely fat. If you eat too many grains, ONLY THEN can IGF-1 work. Also, I have been doing a small experiment. I have asked one of my more scientific friends to perform an experiment using rats. It will entail calcium intake. Which does the body use more of, the calcium in milk or the calcium in vitamin supplement pills that you recommend. I hope that this experiment proves my earlier point that the body cannot process high density calcium in pills as in milk. If not, you'll hear the results either way. It is strange that all your figures on the specifics of milk antibiotics come from before the summer of 1995. If you will recall, the ENTIRE system was restructured to better provide safety. So far, it has worked well. As to your comment about dairy farmers being rich and able to bribe politicians, I ask you to look at the great majority of the dairy farmers in Wisconsin. They are not rich. In fact, most of them are barely making it along because milk prices have in fact gone DOWN in the past few years. Strange, isn't it? Regards..........Phoenix

Name: Rex Tyler
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: United Kingdom
Time: 1998-05-12 03:37:00
Comments: COW POWWOW **********

I am a cow,
And thus I vow
To so expose, the stuff,
You pump in me
So regularly
Oh! God I've had enough!

My udders torn
My feet so worn
I'm sick,
I feel a wreck
But farmers still
Against our will
Shove it down our neck.

And deep inside
I cannot hide
I feel the urge to spew
I'm very tired
But feel all fired
Up, because of You.

Monsanto WHY?
Do you apply
Satan's wisdom here
I am a cow
And now I vow
To make it very clear.

But as I do
The milk in me
You steal and feed abroad,
It will poison those
Who do suppose
With me they're in accord.

My calf,got now't
They took him out
For Chymosin and Veal
They led away
My cute milk tray
And I still hear him squeal!!!

That captive bolt
His brain did jolt
My lovely little Calf
You humans will
Pick up the bill
For we don't do things by half.

Rex Tyler

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insert comments after this --> Dear Rex,

Great poem! For this, you have won yourself a free book! I'm no poet, but you've inspired me to create a bit of verse...

There was a young cow from Nantucket,
Who squirted her milk in a bucket,
Hormones and pus, folks put up such a fuss,
After learning the contents, said "Ahh, ____!"

I think I'll stick to writing books.

Anybody else want to submit a poem? (ADVICE TO THE KIDDIES:Don't suck it...Chuck it!)

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Dale Anderson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Medford, WI
Time: 1998-05-09 20:06:58
Comments: The question Phoenix presents in record #385 actually points out one of the many distortions of fact that are presented on this web page. If one takes the time to look at the USDA data, which can be found on their web pages, one finds that number presented is actually a whole milk equivelant number. In other words, all dairy products that are consumed on average are converted back to how many pounds of actual whole milk they represent. How is it that one eats that much dairy products? One doesn't. Instead, if one drank only milk instead of eating things like cheese and ice cream, one would consume that much of a *fluid* product. Obviously, it's really not that honest to compare in poundage a fluid product to a solid product like a vegetable or baked goods. But, if one didn't, one probably wouldn't have the upside down pyramid that gets presented on these web pages, either. Another example of distortion is the claim that FDA lowered the allowable level of antibiotic residues from one part in one hundred million to one part per one million. While it may be true that discussion happened in the FDA as to what an allowable level may be, and that even perhaps someone suggested that the level be one part per million, the truth is that the allowable levels are in the part per *billion* category. Those that are truely interested in this issue may look at memoranda from the FDA on many milk related subjects by going to the FDA Prime Connection at http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~ear/prime.html. In addition to confirming that the acceptable levels of antibiotic are measured in parts per billion, one can also go to the miscellaneous milk references section and view the results of residue testing for 1996. The will be able to confirm that there were no residues found in pasteurized grade "A" milk, which is what bottled milk comes from, in that year. If anyone knows of current test results (in the past six months) that show retail milk having certain drug residues in it, they should contact the proper regulatory authorities (usually the state ag department) so they can test for the drug in question and take the proper actions as needed. I have personally challenged Bob to present such tests, but he has not been forthcoming. I can only come to the conclusion that he knows of none.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Dale,

How can you accuse me of distortion when you have obviously not checked the numbers? These numbers do not lie!

The United States Department of Agriculture publishes a pamphlet containing the annual data of food consumption by Americans. These data are edited by Judith Jones Putnam and Jane E. Allshouse are are collectively titled, "FOOD CONSUMPTION, PRICES AND EXPENDITURES."

Last year's edition revealed that the average American ate 394 pounds of vegetables, 121 pounds of fruit, 192 pounds of flour and cereal products, 193 pounds of meat, poultry and fish. The average American also ate 584 pounds of milk and dairy priducts. I used these USDA numbers to construct the lopsided food pyramid contained on my webpage.

In addition to accepting the USDA numbers for purposes of of that pyramid, I also took the average consumption for cheese ice cream, butter, whole milk, etc. I've taken 17 items and calculated how much milk it actually took to produce each item. For example, the average American consumed 27.7 pounds of cheese last year and it took ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Therefore, it took 277 pounds of milk to make the cheese consumed by the average American. Add together all of the other products and we arrive at a total far greater than the USDA number.

As to the ANTIBIOTIC issue:

Dairy farmers and FDA regulators are the distorters, not I.

There are agencies in America that actually care about the health and safety of Americans. After MONSANTO sent their dairy scientist, Margaret Miller, to work at FDA, and after she arbitrarily increased by 100 times the allowable level of antibiotics in milk, CONSUMERS UNION, publisher of CONSUMERS REPORT, tested milk in the New York area.

Guess what they found?

Fifty-two different antibiotics in the milk that our children drank every day. You accuse me of distortion? I accuse those in the dairy industry of betraying Americans. Thank goodness there are groups like CONSUMERS UNION ready to sort out the truth.

The Wall Street Journal independently tested milk supplies and confirmed those damaging test results.
So... we overdose every day on milk and dairy products which contain 52 different antimicrobials while milk samples on dairy farms are only tested for 6 different residues. Farmers wash the udders of their cows in a solution of iodine which kills bacteria but also enters the milk.

I recently attended a conference at the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta. Government scientists recognize that antibiotics no longer work when children need them, and we have emerging diseases which are immune to those antibiotics which we've been drinking each day in milk.

I know you, Dale. You work for the Department of Agriculture in Wisconsin and SHOULD be testing the milk for safety. Do you test for iodine? Do you routinely test for those 52 residues found by CONSUMER'S UNION and WALL STREET JOURNAL? Why not contact those two agencies for a list of those antibiotics and test each truckload of milk?

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-05-09 04:17:23
Comments: Hello again Mr. Cohen. I will be addressing your response to my last post in the following message.There is one small problem with your theory. The pituitary gland produces the MOST powerful growth hormone in the human body, namely HGH. Could you be trying to mislead me and the rest of the public? As to the causes of lung cancer, statistical studies and empiracal data make up MUCH of your book. If you can use them to be scientific proof, why can't I? Also, if dairy products make up 39% of the average American's diet, what study is that from? And how do you know that I eat that much dairy products? As the great philosopher said, "Find a happy medium." AS I SAID BEFORE, grains make people fat, as well as fat itself. If you need proof of that and the exact sequence, carefully examine my last post. Being 6' 7", I can eat much more than the average American. Fat does not affect me. Perhaps other people are different than the "average American". Aren't we all different? Do drugs affect each of us differently? Do certain types of food affect each person differently? Could milk be healthy for one person and not so healthy for the next?Regards......Phoenix

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insert comments after this --> Dear Phoenix,

You have posed eight different questions and I am going to answer just one at this time. All other questions are answered in my book. For example, the USDA lists the average food consumptions, per item, per American. Their numbers do not lie. I simply re-state what USDA has previously written.

When Human Growth Hormone was discovered it was aptly named because of its function... it made cells grow. About twenty years ago another growth factor was discovered, even more powerful than human growth hormone. The newly discovered protein was a powerful growth factor and it resembled insulin so it was named INSULIN-LIKE GROWTH FACTOR (IGF). There are five different versions of IGF but I will limit my response to IGF-1.

All mammals have growth hormones. Human growth hormone (HGH) can also be called human somatotropin (HST). Canine (dog) growth hormone is CST or CGH and bovine (cow) growth hormone is BGH or BST.

Hormones are made up of chains of amino acids. There are twenty-eight different amino acids which are the building blocks of these proteins. HGH and BGH both contain chains of 191 amino acids. The sequence of those amino acids differs by about 35 percent.

When IGF-I was discovered it was noted that its growth potential was much more powerful than GH. If IGF-I had been discovered first it would have been named Growth hormone. (This scientific nomenclature can be pretty confusing).

There are four thousand mammals in the animal kingdom and perhaps 500,000 different hormones. Only one hormone is exactly alike between two species of animal. IGF-I in humans and cows both contain 70 amino acids in the same gene sequence.

Now it gets interesting.

When the cow's growth hormone (BGH/BST) was genetically engineered (re-combined with E coli bacteria) the new product was called recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH) or recombinant bovine somatotropin (rBST). When this hormone in injected into a cow the levels of IGF-I increase in her milk.

IGF-I has been identified as a key factor in the growth and proliferation of every type of human cancer. Drink a 12 ounce glass of milk and you double the amount of the "free and unbound" IGF-I in an adult human body.

Genetically engineered milk contains increased amounts of a hormone that is naturally in ALL milk. It is irresponsible, bordering on criminal for any dairy farmer, so armed with this information, to be using it on American citizens.

For purposes of simplification I have renamed the newly formed hormone to:

Somatotropic Hormone Insulin-Type or simply: S.H.I.T.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: David Westmoreland
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Va Beach,VA
Time: 1998-05-09 01:44:05
Comments: I first heard you on the radio and have read your entire web site. I have not yet quit drink the puse as of yet but have slowed down on my consumtion and purchasing of the liquid. Everyone I have told about your web page said they can not drink a glass of milk without thinking of the pustashe statement. I will be piking up your book soon for the local bookstore. Thank you for the added knowledge.

Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-05-08 03:17:02
Comments: Hello Mr. Cohen! By the way, I am not Wayne, though I am a member of the dorm staff at the same school as him. For your information my name is Robert NEumanN. Kindly spell my name right. Anyway, if there are so many other ways to get obese, cancer and heart disease, how can you contribute so much of these problems to milk? Perhaps the most likely causes are inactivity, overeating, drinking excessive amounts of alchohal, and even smoking. Did you know that over 225,000 heart attacks per year are attributed to smoking causes? Not just lung disease, Heart disease. That's 25% of all fatal heart attacks. Did you know that in all actuality, excessive amounts of grains are responsible for many of the problems with obesity that America has. When the body digests complex carbohydrates, it breaks them down eventually into the basic unit that the body can use, namely glucose. When glucose is absorbed into the blood, the hypothalamus gland sends a signal to the pancreas to make insulin. Then the insulin sends a message to the muscles and liver to begin absorbing excess amount of sugar. When there is so much sugar in the cells, the cell converts it into a form that is easier to store, namely FAT. This is the reason many Americans get fat. They eat so many grains they believe are healthy because they contain little or no fat, that they actually still become fat.Regards........Phoenix

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insert comments after this --> There are 3500 calories in one pound of human fat. If a person eats more than what his body requires, whether those extra calories are from cookies or milk or steak or broccoli, that individual will gain weight. Eat 500 more calories each day and you will gain one pound per week and 52 pounds per year. Eat 500 calories less than you need each day and you will lose one pound per week and lose 52 pounds in one year.

Cigarette smoking is attributed as being a cause of heart disease. So is being overweight. We most certainly are what we eat. I have pointed out that the average American includes milk and dairy products as thirty-nine percent of his or her diet. That same average American from milk and dairy will ingest the equivalent cholesterol contained in 19,000 slices of bacon.

Nobody before me has ever stated so simply the cause of our number one killer, HEART DISEASE. If the emperor is not wearing any clothes would you be one of thousands to compliment him on his wardrobe? Think, for gosh sakes! By age 52 you will eat, from milk and dairy, the same cholesterol contained in one-million slices of bacon. Do you wish to wait for a long term scientific study? Which group do you wish to be in? The one eating 53 slices of bacon each day (and the exact quantity of cholesterol from milk and dairy products) or the control group?

No such study has ever been conducted. I've got to assume that deep down inside, after pausing to consider what I just told you, there's a little voice that recognizes the truth.

I did a debate with a dietitian in Tampa on April 28th on the FOX affiliate. During a commercial break she let it be known that her dad just had a triple bypass heart surgery. Before going on the air I asked her whether or not she would want her dad to eat the same cholesterol contained in 19,000 slices of bacon this coming year. She got furious with me. Hey--it's not my fault that we've all been brainwashed to do this to our bodies. I'm here to tell you the truth. If you want to go into deep denial, that is your choice.

There has never been physiological evidence that smoking cigarettes causes cancer. There most certainly is enormous empirical and statistical data indicating that to be the case. Thousands of things cause cancer but the key factor in the growth and proliferation of all human cancer is our most powerful growth hormone, insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1).

IGF-I is identical between humans and cows. Both have 70 amino acids in the same gene sequence. Milk does not cause breast cancer. It does contain the key hormone in the growth of every cancer.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Andrew
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MA
Time: 1998-05-07 18:20:54
Comments: I do not have an e-mail address of my own, and will not use the owner's address. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Andrew, There are hundreds of services providing FREE EMAIL. Go to: http://www.collegeclub.com One of the most frequently used services is HOTMAIL. You can get their free EMAIL account by logging on at: http://www.hotmail.com Regards, The NOTMILKMAN

(Or try the free one of note http://www.juno.com/ JUNO:
all you need is a modem and their software...
and there are many others usable via an ISP/Browser!
Regards... WEBMaster)

Name: Andrew
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MA
Time: 1998-05-06 21:37:56
Comments: So your answer to the question about milk (not bacon) studies, with supporting data demonstrating that milk is the main ( or even to be considered) culprit in heart disease, is that you can not site any such studies. Thank You,Andrew NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Andrew, You asked a pretty good question and I answered it. Please review my response to your previous question. If you wish to ask other questions please include your EMAIL address when posting to my guestbook. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN

Name: Andrew
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MA
Time: 1998-05-05 18:11:45
Comments: Please provide data, statistics or scientific evidence which prove or support this statement:"Milk is the foundation of heart disease and the explanation for America's number one killer." I would prefer that you state the data rather than just the source, so that all might understand how you justify making such a statement. Are there studies of heart disease victims which show that milk or dairy products were a substantial factor in the cause of this disease, in individuals? If so, please name and briefly summarize them, and let us all know where we might access them. Thanks,Andrew

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insert comments after this --> Dear Andrew,

Hundreds of studies have implicated milk and dairy products as the leading cause of heart disease. Many such studies are cited in "MILK-The Deadly Poison."

High triglyceride and cholesterol levels are both associated with coronary heart disease. One study (Journal of Clinical Biochemistry and Nutrition 1990; 9 (1): 61-66) showed that adult milk drinkers (those consuming more than 200 ml daily) have higher total cholesterol levels, higher low-density lipoprotein-cholesterol ("bad" cholesterol) levels, and higher triglyceride levels than those who drink less than 60 ml per day.

Oster and Ross (two Connecticut cardiologists) found that their heart attack patients ALL experienced the destruction of one-third of the cellular material in their atrial cells. These two men identified bovine xanthene oxidase as the cause of this cellular degradation. The key event, in their opinion, was how bovine proteins survive digestion and bypass the gut as a result of homogenization which micronizes liposomes (makes fat molecules smaller). Oster and Ross considered their 1973 discovery to be a "triumph over the most serious threat to life today." Although every one of 300 heart attack patients produced antibodies to these dangerous bovine proteins, proving that they did survive digestive processes, FDA continues to maintain the position that proteins do not survive digestion. (Proc.Soc.Exper.Bio. & Med., January, 1980, 163, vol. 1)

Every health agency and medical journal has warned about the danger of consuming animal fats. The average American eats a total of three ounces of meat and chicken each day while consuming more than ten times that amount in milk and dairy products which contain the same dangerous animal fats.

If you are the average American, from milk and dairy products (ice cream, cheese, butter, etc.) you will consume this year the same cholesterol contained in 19,000 slices of bacon.

Andrew... do you really want a study? Try and advertise for volunteers for a one year study to test the effects of eating 53 slices of bacon each day for 365 days. Imagine your doctor giving you such advice. YOU WOULD WANT TO FIND A NEW DOCTOR!!!

Take those 19,000 slices of bacon and multiply by 52 and you'll find the average 52-year-old having consumed the same cholesterol contained in one-million slices of bacon. He and his doctor have no clue as to what causes heart disease, America's number one killer.

Neither does the American Heart Association (AHA), which continues to endorse milk and dairy products as an important part of the American diet. Without dairy industry funding and continued heart disease these phonies at AHA would be out of business.

If a company donates $60,000 to the AHA they receive their approval and permission to advertise the heart logo on their product. I know of at least one milk company that enjoys the benefit of fooling Americans into believing that their product is healthy. The AHA recently informed the NOTMILKMAN that they would NOT allow his book or any part of his agenda to be marketed at their convention. These prostitutes would sell the hearts and souls of Americans for the almighty dollar, yet, faced with evidence that the average American eats the same dangerous cholesterol each year from milk and dairy that is contained in 19,000 slices of bacon, they HEARTily endorse such practice.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Audra
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Calif.
Time: 1998-05-05 08:28:36
Comments: Robert, Enjoying the banter on your website.....it's almost as good as Jerry Springer! Seriously though, it's because of you and your information that I am a healthy vegan now.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Audra,

Wow! You just made my day! If the change in your lifestyle is a recent one I'd be curious to know how you feel in a few weeks. Pay careful attention to the changes in your moods and physiological activities.

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Name: jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Alaska
Time: 1998-05-05 07:22:19
Comments: I was wondering why it was that you deleted my message?

Regards...Jeremiah

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Your post was removed because you were warned that a debate of Judiasm vs. Christianity was not an appropriate subject for this GUESTBOOK.

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Name: Bruce
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: TX
Time: 1998-05-05 07:00:34
Comments: Your rudeness and ignorance betray YOU. Wayne is a very bright young man, and it appears his intelligent questions and comments bother you a great deal. Or could it be the fact that the "credentials" he could list should he write a book, would be as extensive as yours? Let's see, did you complete high school? From what college do you hold a degree? Does the answer to your nasty attitude lie with the reasons you were unable to complete your studies? You have not ever attempted to ANSWER even one of the many questions posed to you by Wayne and others. Shame on you. Bruce

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insert comments after this --> Dear Bruce,

Wayne continues to pose the same query concerning my bibliography. I have answered his question a number of times, most recently in POST # 375. You are invited to review his (similar) questions and my (similar) responses in POST #'s 301, 306, 313, 327, 333 and 346.

During the course of human history, ignorant people, upon being faced with unpleasant news, attack the messenger. There has been a recent barrage of non-substance/personal attacks which cumulatively have added nothing in the way of defending the dairy industry propaganda that milk is "Nature's perfect food."

My background and credentials are fully detailed in my book. I am a college graduate. Many of my contemporaries have become complacent couch potatoes. With the exception of sports, I do not watch television, preferring to read at least one fictional and one non-fictional book per day. My studies have never ended.

I have a unquenching thirst for knowledge. My day usually ends around midnight and begins at 5:00 AM.

My JOB is my HOBBY and my HOBBY is my JOB and the 100 hour work-week that I average is a constant "study" which I continuously pursue with enthusiasm.

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Name: Robert Siegel
Website: The Healthy Gourmet
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Santa Rosa, CA
Time: 1998-05-05 05:53:45
Comments: Great site!!!! I give it to all those who understand the health risks of consuming the milk of another animal is not the healthiest practice in the world. And, most importantly, I give your web site out to folks who want more information about what are the consequenses of milk consumption. We are the only species on this planet who drink ANY milk after we are weaned. Keep up the good work!!

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insert comments after this --> Robert Siegel has written a magnificent cookbook! His apple pie recipe (heaven!!!) can be found at:

http://www.healthy-gourmet.com


His cookbook can be ordered by calling 1-800-606-0555.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-05-05 04:16:48
Comments: Did you have fun on your little vacation? How much did you get paid while on this tour?

As for me being the first to contest your resources; there must always be a first. You always push the statement the there are 336 resources for your book, you even made that nice list on your home page. That is a lie! Go and look at resource #322 and then at #330. Anybody can see that they are the exact same thing. Oops, now you are down to 335. --Wayne

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insert comments after this --> Wayne... please do yourself a favor and not post here any longer. You are making a fool of yourself. I've written privately to you and previously deleted this very same post in an effort to save you from revealing your self-incriminating ignorance.

When doing a reseach paper or compiling a bibliography one references every statement. Often a reference is used more than once. Is this a reflection of your teachers, or of you? Something is very wrong with our educational system when somebody like you keeps making the same mistake, over and over again.

I sadly read your posts and regret the fact that you cannot recognize your ignorance. I hope that you do not represent America's youth.

Please do not post here any longer. You add nothing to my guestbook.

For the record... References 322 and 330 both refer to the same source; "Mad Cows and Milk Gate" by Virgil Hulse, MD.

REFERENCE #322 (page 278 of my book)

"Cows are being fed diseased sheep, chickens and other cows. These cows are then slaughtered, wrapped in plastic, priced and put out in your local grocery store as harmless for human consumption. Of these cows, 80 percent have bovine leukemia virus and 50 percent have the bovine immunodeficiency virus--the animal equivalent of AIDS. We are drinking milk and eating cheese with lymphocyte that are loaded with the proviral DNA of these viruses. It is only common sense that when consuming a fluid that has been emitted from an animal, or the actual flesh itself, we the consumers, are at risk for whatever ailed the animal."

REFERENCE # 330 (Page 280 of my book)

"Recent studies conducted with macaque monkeys provide the strongest evidence yet that the human form of mad cow disease may possibly come from cattle. Dr. Adriano Aguzzi, chief of the National Survey Program for Cruetzfeldt-Jacob disease in Switzerland commented: 'In my view it ends the debate that it didn't come from cows. On one hand, now we can say this is something that can happen... the disease coming up in the monkeys is identical to the human disease found in Great Britain."

There are no rules prohibiting an author from quoting one or more passages from the same reference, so long as each quote is carefully cited. Haven't you been taught these basics? Wayne... Get thee to a library... If you do not have one in your school there should be one in your town or county... It's a building with lots of books... open some of those books and begin to read and learn so that you can, hopefully, sometime in the future, be able to communicate with adults.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: The King Of Milkfat
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-05-04 20:34:56
Comments: I wasn't going to write till later, but I feel it necessary to correct a misunderstanding immediately. My reference to you as Porky is by no means an anti-Semitic remark. It is a remark meant to poke fun at your rather doughy appearance. In simpler terms, you remind of a pig named Porky (also a reference your seemingly endless redundancy). I harbor to prejudice toward your religious beliefs nor your ethnicity. In fact, I didn't realize you were Jewish. I assume by context clues that this is where we have a misunderstanding. If your arguments were that your religion precludes you from drinking milk, as it precludes you from consuming pork, I would have no reason to visit your site. However, you've taken it upon yourself to distort scientific fact and I have no tolerance for such misdeeds, especially when the motives include financial gain. Also, I harbor no animosity toward your family. I know that they're just following your lead, albeit a poor reason to do so. And in related matters, I feel that I don't need profanity or vulgarity or threats to make my points. I'm a little unimpressed with your accusation of a lack of substance. Surely I have a great deal of substance! I drink milk!! With regards to the nickname you've assigned me, that's cute. Did you think of that all by yourself?? Or did you need your publicist's help? And these dozens of interviews requests you receive. Are these requests you don't pursue or are they just such low profile I haven't seen them yet or aren't they one sided enough for you? A balanced presentation with facts would make you look rather foolish.

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insert comments after this --> Hmm...You haven't seen any of my interviews but you know what I look like, huh? How many lies do you wish to pass on through your anonymous messages? Still no substance, but you do speak with a forked tongue. By any chance... are you with the FDA?

Lie after lie... you didn't know I was Jewish? You reveal your wit by copying a "(sigh)" to a previously posted message (of mine) which was one of many referring to the fact that I was Jewish. MILKFAT? You are only fooling yourself.

Boy, talk about Freudian slips. You probably meant to write that you harbor no prejudice, but you wrote:

"I harbor to prejudice..." You are a funny fellow... pathetically funny. (sigh)

My publicist has done a pretty good job of booking me. I just finished two television shows in Atlanta and three in Florida. I also was interviewed for a major nationally televised show that should air in about two weeks. I recently did a debate with a nutritionist at the FOX affiliate in Atlanta. I did such a job on her that pressures were exerted on the station to cancel the show. Is there journalistic integrity? I do not announce my shows, having learned by experience that enormous pressures are exerted to keep the truth about milk secret from the American people.

Sign your next letter with an EMAIL address or this communication will be your final one. Do you have the courage of your convictions? Frankly, I doubt it. Prove me wrong about any of my facts... or my final challenge.

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Name: The King of Milkfat
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-05-04 06:17:31
Comments: Guess who's back! Someone has been doing some typing and not spelling any words. Did you find the delete key or was it the backspace? Humph. This is puzzling. I sent in posting #368 and you wrote a response. After I sent in #370, you wrote a rather brief, but what I found to be an inspiring response. However, you had deleted all but one of the "(sigh)s" I had typed. That smacks of editing! However, you hadn't edited the content of my posting itself, so I couldn't get into too much of a huff. After I posted #371 pointing out your little editing incident, you returned my "(sigh)s" and removed your responses. I'm a little puzzled. Did Porky lay down the law or was this by your own motivation? When I hinted at your editing, did you realize your mistake? I mean, how can I believe all these posts now, knowing that you have the ability and free reign to doctor messages. Perhaps esteemed colleagues of mine have written treatises of great worth only to end up in the recycling bin. Furthermore, how do I know that you aren't creating or "improving" upon the posts of your followers? Might I speculate that this is a conspiracy of the Notmilk Man to withhold damaging information?!!! Back to my original thoughts. You deleted your response to my message and now there's no evidence that you even wrote "SIGH!" on the page. The couple people that visit in a blue moon won't understand my reference to the exclamation point after the word sigh. They'll think I'm hallucinating and attribute it too all the milk I drink. Ooops. I guess I just lost even more credibility with your crowd. I'll write to you again soon!! ;-)

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insert comments after this --> Hello Milk-fat-head King,

I've been away from my computer for ten days and it's nice to learn that I have a new fan! Thanks for all of those letters! :>)

Unlike many of my critics, you seem to be armed with wit and the ability to spell.

All you need is a bit of substance. Do you imagine you make points by criticizing the fact that I have a publicist? I receive a few dozen requests for interviews every single day. Thank goodness I have somebody running that part of my life. It allows me the time to visit this site and reply to many of my critics like the "King of MILK-fat-heads."

My publicist's work load will soon increase geometrically as we approach the June 9th start-up date of...

America's ANTI-DAIRY COALITION.

I invite your comments and assure you that they will not be censored, as long as you keep your wit and stay to the general theme of this page. I recently tried to access my GUESTBOOK from a computer at EPCOT in Disneyworld. I was denied access because of "inappropriate language." I will be editing out any language that I feel is obscene.

One last point, MILK-FAT-HEAD. I have received a number of threats and phone calls and have been informed by decent dairymen of an enormous amount of anti-semitic comments among their colleagues regarding myself, my family and my work. You may think it cute to call me "PORKY" but such comments are not exactly Kosher, and if you wish to continue "playing" in this arena, you will leave your racially and prejudically biased venom for your family, friends and co-workers.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: The King of Milkfat
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-05-04 00:47:14
Comments: I forgot something. Tell me how to sigh with an exclamation point (that's what this puncutation is "!"). I didn't know it was possible. And the name calling I was referring to was not your own, but Porky's. You'll notice, I haven't called you any names and don't intend to as long as you remain civil.

Name: The King of Milkfat
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-05-04 00:43:03
Comments: Dave, not worthy of comment? Come on. Surely you have the time to comment. After all, it seems as if you sit on your laurels all day just watching the screen (do they really pay you to do this? can you get me a job?). You may retort (look it up if you don't know what it means) that I seem to do the same. To the contrary! I sit on my laurels all day and just check the screen periodically. Remember to tell Porky about that study! Oh. And why did you delete all my (sigh)s. Hitting too close to home? Also, at what point will you begin deleting my postings? Like a cult, I assume you'll begin to silence those that know the facts about your agenda so that you can continue reaping the financial rewards of misleading your flock. By the way, why did Porky have to pay to have his book published? Weren't there any credible publishing companies willing to put the "truth" in print?? And was it really necessary to hire a public relations firm?? Surely if this is indeed the "truth", as you chose to call it, wouldn't the media be calling Porky night and day for interviews? Oh. How stupid of me (you probably knew that already though). Monsanto, in its broad sweeping conspiracy, also paid every Pulitzer Prize hungry journalist also to keep the "truth" suppressed.

Name: The King of Milkfat
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-05-03 21:21:16
Comments: Lack of knowledge?!! Tisk tisk Dave. That doesn't stop anyone else from posting including Porky himself. Why discriminate against me then? As for Jerry Springer, listening to the folks posting around here, I'd say I fit right in! Hey, pass something along to Porky for me. A study by Willett et al. (Lancet 341:581-585) showed that coronary heart disease was positively correlated with trans-octadecenoic fatty acids from partially hydrogenated vegetable oils but negatively correlated with trans isomers from butter fat. Interesting results. There's other studies surfacing confirming these results. I'll keep you informed. As for name calling... (sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)(sigh)

Name: Andrea Behrns-Miller
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Florida
Time: 1998-05-03 05:50:22
Comments: Hooray for this website! My husband and I have been vegan for almost 10 years and our two year old vegan daughter is the healthiest kid I know. She's had only two colds (brief and mild) and has never taken antibiotics, including the ones found in dairy products. When will people realize that God designed cow's milk to be the perfect food for BABY COWS and human milk as the perfect nourishment for baby humans? Maybe when the dairy industry stops their brainwashing campaign!

Name: The King of Milkfat
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Somewhere
Time: 1998-05-03 00:11:05
Comments: Hey Porky, I heard about this page of yours and thought I'd stop on by. It seems like you've got your facts a little mixed up. Oh well. I guess a lack of a complete education holds you back still. Incidentally, have you ever been successful at anything? I've noticed that you've held several jobs and have been to college, but it doesn't look like anything lasted long or that you even completed college. Someone said you're a scholar. Looks to me like you're a failure. I'll talk to you again soon. Maybe sooner than you'd like!

Name: Cathy
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: central Florida
Time: 1998-05-01 08:03:04
Comments: Awesome site. You're providing a great service and I wish more people would open their eyes and use their brains!!! It absolutely amazes me what people will swallow :)

Name: Jane Clark
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Glen, MS
Time: 1998-04-29 22:13:03
Comments: I am interested in providing healthy food for my family. My husband and I both have relatives with diabetes, cancer, and heart trouble. I appreciate the recipies!

Name: Crystal Coleman
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Tampa, FL
Time: 1998-04-29 01:22:44
Comments: I would like to find out more

Name: Ron Hamilton
Website: Good Bunny Awards
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: British Columbia
Time: 1998-04-28 08:21:56
Comments: In the Province newspaper of Wed Apr 22 1998 the following appeared. 55,000 Canadians die from cancer each year. Leukemias, nervous system cancers, and lymphomas account for 60% of child deaths in N.Am. "It is the immensity of the disease," said Eric Holowaty Dir. of an Ontario cancer surveillence unit. "The number of people newly diagnosed and the number of deaths continue to increase, almost monotonously year after year." From another newspaper about a month ago I found the stats that 500 Canadian men out of every 100,000 will be diagnosed with cancer. 435 women out of every 100,000 will share the same fate. Those are some numbers in a country with only 30,000,000 pop.!! It is time to boycott dairy until the FDA and Health Canada release the data on the rats contained in the Richard, Odaglia, Deslex Report. To quote Robert Cohen at his meeting with Dick Teske and other scientists at FDA: "IGF-1 is the bad guy here."

Name: Chris
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: So Calif.
Time: 1998-04-28 04:41:35
Comments: As I was drivig to work I was listening to KFI with Cohen as a guest speaker on KFI. I listened in the parking lot as long as I could. When I got home that night my daughter helped me find you on the internet. I already knew some of the info from the Milkgate book and from the book Councils on Diet and Health by E.G.White. I have been a vegan for about 17 years but have recently started using dairy when eating out or with friends. Thank-you R.Cohen for having the courage to speak out against these large money hungry corporations . I am getting back on track. When Linda McCartney recently died from her battle with breast cancer, my first thougt was..it very well might have been milk products in her diet...very sad. thanks again! Keep up the good work. I`ll pass it along.

Name: Chiken legs
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: AR.
Time: 1998-04-27 21:56:25
Comments: I don't care what is said I still like my milk!!!!

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That is your privilege, oh nameless one. For many years I consumed milk/dairy, as well as an equally "safe" no-calorie sweetener with the generic name of "aspartame" (Equal/Nutrasweet) that almost killed me.

Be MY guest...
you can have all of the share targeted for ME (and my family, too)!


DAVE RIETZ - WEBMASTER (aspartame AND BGH VICTIM!)



Name: Bill Steinberg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Atlanta, GA
Time: 1998-04-27 18:54:46
Comments: I have been off all cooked foods (including cooked, past your eyes, milk) for about 3 months. The benefits have been weight loss, increased energy, etc. Got Milk? Have you noticed that Milk and Tobacco share the same marketing. Winston cigarettes are "Additive Free" The dairy industry can't say that milk is "GOOD FOR YOU", so they use clever slogans like "Behold, the power of cheese" Sure it has the power to constipate you, give you mucus, and make sure you visit your doctor on a regular basis.

Name: Jeannette Smit
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Bunschoten, The Netherlands
Time: 1998-04-27 17:08:56
Comments: Nice pages, learned a lot!

Name: Richard Norton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Ojai, CA
Time: 1998-04-27 05:20:08
Comments: I was looking for info on Bovine growth hormone and the search engine selected your page. I didn't know that it has all of the other poisons in it. rinorton

Name: Kay Elliott
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Michigan
Time: 1998-04-25 23:03:13
Comments: I came onto your page from rawtimes. We definitely believe in NO MILK!!! We're a pastor's family that is trying to spread this health message!!!

Name: Sandy Smith
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Rogue River, Oregon
Time: 1998-04-25 04:19:41
Comments: I keep learning more everyday about animal products being diseased and unhealthy. We really don't need meat or milk- products to be a part of our diet. Look at what all we have to choose from that isn't animal. God really knew what He was doing when He gave us the original diet in the Bible. We should ask Him to teach us how to eat healthy. Besides, one of these days we probably won't have decent meat or dairy products available to us. It's been a problem for a long time and it's getting worse. Learn now how to eat healthy. Educate yourself about what "does the body good", instead of believing the mega-industries that only want your money. There really is a conspiracy going on out there. It's worse than the tobacco scandal because there are more victims, and they are teaching our children (and adults) that their prod- ucts are good for us. Think about it. Pray about it!

Name: Charles
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kentucky
Time: 1998-04-25 02:50:32
Comments: I was looking though this interesting web page. When I was looking at the sources to verfiy your claim, I came upon the word "Ibid" and I was wondering what that was. If you could help me, it would help me to find the truth.

Name: Jason
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Somewhere
Time: 1998-04-25 02:43:29
Comments: Then this page is full of crap.And all you people who oppse milk are full of crap. Just because ONE PERSON MIGHT have poisoned SOME milk you think its the end of the world and get on your high horses and start opposing stuff that god has given us to use!! Fine dont drink milk, dont believe in god, but when you die before me because I Got the nutrients that milk has, then it was YOUR OWN FAULT And make sure that Mr. Cohen READS this message. Jason

Name: Dusty Hall
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Tracy, CA
Time: 1998-04-25 01:00:46
Comments: Finally, others that agree with my feelings. I hope the word gets out. Dusty

Name: Brandi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ky
Time: 1998-04-24 09:06:58
Comments: I read the response to Melanie's questions about BST. My husband and I used BST for a while. It doesn't take as long to administer as you think it does. Once you get used to it and get your routine down, you're done in 2-3 seconds per cow, and when you get good at it, the cow never knows she's been stuck. The only reason that people claim that BST causes mastitis is because a cow on BST is producing more milk. ALL cows producing a lot of milk are more susceptible to mastitis. Suppose I have a cow who is giving 80 pounds a day without BST. She is prone to getting mastitis just as much as a cow on BST who is giving 80 pounds a day. Dairying is a way of life for us, but you have to remember that it is also our living. It's our sole source of income. We'll try new things in order to make more money. A few pounds increase in milk a day per cow doesn't sound like much to most people, but it really adds up before you realize it. We wouldn't have used BST if we thought that it harmed our cows or our milk.

Name: jeffree
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-04-24 03:40:17
Comments: Just checking in again to see what's up. Shocked at all the anti-semitism being bandied about like it's nothing. Who teaches these people that it is acceptable to say things like that? Someone should tell them the words they use aren't righteous, they are hateful. This is a huge world, populated with peoples of many different and diverse faiths. Some read the bible as a cornerstone to faith, while others look to the koran, the bahavad gita, or a myriad of others including mine, the lotus sutra. Passion is one thing, bashing quite another. My second grade teacher, Miss Bringleson once told me "if you can't bring something vital and interesting to a conversation don't speak." Kudos Notmilkman, for courage under fire.

Name: jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: alaska
Time: 1998-04-24 02:35:48
Comments: ...

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Sir, Mr. Cohen has asked you to please communicate with him privately. This is a guest-book that is not a forum, nor a site/place suitable to in-depth discussions. His Email address is notmilkman@notmilk.com ... however, he will not have Email access for about ten days or so. I hope you understand, and will comply with this request. Thank you...


DAVE RIETZ - WEBMASTER (aspartame AND BGH VICTIM!)



Name: Jason
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Somewhere
Time: 1998-04-24 00:10:13
Comments: Excuse me... will you please ANSWER MY QUESTION this time! Milk is very good for your body. So WHY do you oppose it? And dont give that (sigh) junk, just answer the question.

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WEBMASTER's note:

Jason... the answers to your questions have been answered many times in many of the over 300 responses within this guest book, on the notmilk WEB site, and most certainly within Mr. Cohen's book.

Please do everyone a favor and read all that you can, and only THEN ask appropriate questions. If you insist on being catered-to/spoon-fed, you will have to wait a week or so for a more specific answer from Mr. Cohen. Thank you ...


Mr. Cohen will be away on tour for awhile.

Where possible I will attempt to help out... as best I can.

However, I will NOT participate in any discussions of God, religion, or other subjects that I personally believe have NO place in this discussion of feeding genetically altered foods to humans. Foodstuffs that bear bad news for the health of each and every consumer!

Monsanto CHOSE to market aspartame (the fake sweetener now sold in over 100 countries to over 200 million clueless victims). Due to what appears to be market pressures (falling sales in aspartame and increased competition from new products from other companies) they are rushing to market their chemically altered aspartame they call "Neotame" ... you can use LESS per serving so it will take LONGER to make the clueless user most probably irreversably sick!

Monsanto CHOSE to create and market genetically engineered boving growth hormone. This is a substance that cost them around a billion dollars to create and "test". Why? Why do Americans need MORE milk and MORE dairy, when we already have a glut where we have to give/throw away tons of it? From all that I have read ALL of the facts concerning rBGH have NOT been presented by those who created it, nor by those who approved it for use. From all that I have read the public has, at best, been exposed to countless misrepresentations concerning milk, and the supposed "safety" of far too many other substances.

Aspartame was a potential "ulcer drug" come "safe food additive". My, what a simple classification "transformation" that eliminated tons of testing and tracking (I.E. accountability!). A RADICAL change from a very limited application as a DRUG... to that of a widespread billion-dollar sweetener. From all that I have read rBGH, not requiring any "public acceptance", was created as nothing more than a money-maker... with little regard for need or safety.

Monsanto wants the public to believe that aspartame is both "safe" and good for humans as a low calorie "diet" aid. It is not and cannot be any of those things. Monsanto wants the public to believe that bovine growth hormone is both a necessary AND safe substance. Considering all that I read in "MILK: The deadly poison", I cannot believe that anyone can consider rBGH to be anything but an unnecessary hazard to human health.

Hardcopy stated that none of the European countries approved the use of rBGH treated milk, and that 100 AMERICAN school districts have banned its use. Considering all that I have read those folks seem to be MUCH better informed then the majority of Americans.

Thanks to Mr. Cohen's book perhaps the REST of us can get the WHOLE story... and effect its removal from the human food chain.

DAVE RIETZ - WEBMASTER (aspartame AND BGH VICTIM!)



Name:
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Out in the
Time: 1998-04-23 16:29:35
Comments: Hi- This site, and its owner have me puzzled. Maybe it all has to do with perspective.Here’s my perspective. I am a vegetarian - by design. (except for occasional 2-3 times ayear, when I join a neighbor for dinner, and I dine on meat and milk, along with whateverelse is served) My motives are not political, but rather this choice fits best with the way Ihave decided to live my life. I enjoy both meat and dairy products, on those rareoccasions they are available to me, and suffer no ill effects from eating them. I eatvegetarian as I try as much as possible to produce my own food. I live closely with nature,in a simple homestead I built myself, on some land I inherited. I do not keep animals, as Imake a lot of overnight excursions away from my homestead, which preclude me fromproperly caring for livestock.I devote a great deal of time to raising, harvesting, andstoring the foods I need, which will provide me with the proper nutrition throughout theyear. Preparing the right balance to maintain my health is, you might say, a full time job. Ivisited this site on a neighbor’s computer, after, he gave me the Milk book to read (theone this site refers to). He wanted to know my opinion, since I lead a life much differentfrom his. I read, having no idea what to expect. He didn’t tell me what it was about. I readwith a pretty open mind, as the existence or lack of such of milk, doesn’t really affect metoo much on a personal level. I do keep up on the happenings in the world, and am fairlywell read, despite my rather unusual lifestyle,( I do not watch TV- no electricity) so bghwas not a complete unknown to me. I do think I gained a better understanding of itthrough this book. And the author brought up some interesting points about its safety orpossible lack thereof. However, he only brought up questions - he proved nothing, andoffered no evidence which proved anything. He gave a reason to look for moreinformation on this topic, but not to come to any conclusions. The book did convince meof one thing. Its author seems to have an agenda, and that appears to be to destroy thedairy industry - dairy with or without Monsanto’s bgh. His real reasons for this werenever revealed. So, I decided to visit a neighbor with a computer, and from there, thiswebsite, and learn more. I went through the entire guest book, and was amazed at thewillingness of some to blindly follow, without question, seemingly because anunknown,(to me anyway, and mind you I do read a lot) untrained individual, with anunrevealed ax to grind, has written a book denigrating a particular food source. Someinteresting things I noted: He lays claim to being “well referenced.” After reading thisbook, I (or anyone) could write a book, using the exact same set of references to “prove”exactly the opposite point he claims to have made. I have no desire to do this, but thisbook could prove that milk is the perfect food. The references are there, but his use andinterpretation of them is ludicrous. He uses portions of studies which support his views,and leaves out the parts which clearly discredit his ideas. This is what leads me to believethere must be a hidden agenda. No intelligent person could go through these studies, andcome to the conclusions he does in his book and on his webpage, without purposelyleaving out and misusing data to make it fit his desired end explanation. He claims that bghand Monsanto are his targets, but never misses a chance to say that milk, even without thecompanies’ bgh is a “hormone horror.” He says nature didn’t intend us to drink the milk ofanother animal. How do we know what we were intended to eat, and how we were to eatit? Does this man have some inside knowledge the rest of us aren’t privy too? What giveshim the right to suggest to anyone what is or isn’t “appropriate” for humans to eat? Herefers to “pus” in milk and pusstaches, as if this is some sort of joke. Is it? I went back towhere he originally started talking about “pus” and found that it was in reference toallowable somatic cell counts in milk sold. Somatic cells are not pus cells. Every animalhas such cells in there body, and their existance is perfectly normal, and natural. Is theauthor’s blood filled with “pus?” Mine is not, but according to his definition, it is.Accelerated levels of them can be evidenced by a variety of factors-exercise being one ofthem. Referring to these cells as “pus” is an invention of the author’s imaginings. Herefers to hormones in milk not being broken down in the stomach of humans. Right he is,this is true. However - he neglects to mention that the same hormones which help a babygrow, as they pass though the walls of an immature digestive system into the body, passout of the mature digestive system, unused, as they can no longer be absorbed into a bodythe same way they could in an infants’ immature system. He seems to have some of myfellow vegetarians whipped up into an anti animal and dairy frenzy. What’s that all about? I do know that to grow food, animals are a necessary part of the cycle nature has providedus. Organic material to insure proper growth on land which continues in food production,must include plant and animal wastes, if a proper nutrient balance of the land is to bemaintained. Where will we get that fertilizer without livestock? Who do you think willraise them if there isn’t a market for their meat or other products? I trade labor with alocal farmer for a few loads of manure. Whether or not you eat meat - face it - you aredependent on animals to enjoy the foods you do. He ridiculed one young man for sayingthat grain makes people and animals fat. Well, that’s what I load up on prior to the coldseason, and it always helps me “lay on that extra layer.” I don’t think it’s the water,because I do a fast in the spring, and danged if any of the extra fat doesn’t come right off!Judging by the author’s picture on his book, if it is true that he eats no dairy or meat,something is keeping him “ready for cold weather.” He rants about feces in milk, and thentalks about using organic products. Manure is a major reason that organic products areavailable. Feces are found high up in the clearest of mountain streams, where no dairymanever lived. If you dare drink the water, you must first treat it to prevent illness. I’ve beenthere and done that - had those stomach cramps, if you know what I mean. How do yousuppose the water gets contaminated up there - just as it did hundreds of years ago? Herecommends just about any other food than dairy, up to and including beer, as morehealthful - no matter what the other foods proven drawbacks might be. I noted in one ofhis more recent responses he suggested very healthy substitute for sour cream might besome kind of tufo. Sounds very nice. If you use the tufo made of organic soy products,you are employing the feared feces in your diet, as well as the imaginary “pus” for if itcame from an animal, it must have this “pus”of his in it. Or, if it is not organic, it likelyhas been grown with some organic fertilizer, so you get this along with a Monsantochemical cocktail. Plus, did you know that one of the ingredients that helps make tufowhat it is, is magnesium chloride - a chemical used in the making of cement, as well as formelting ice on roadways? It has been found to be highly corrosive. Pass (on ) the tufo -please.I am no supporter of Monsanto, or any other chemical company. Most of them, I can livequite nicely without. However, if I am hearing (reading) correctly, this man is very muchagainst Monsanto’s activities regarding the approval and use of bgh. He decries theprofits they are making on it at the expense of the public health. Yet, he says that thepesticides and herbicides used to grow vegetables, fruits and grains, are unfortunatelynecessary but far less harmful. It’s a pretty good bet to say that a great deal more ofMonsanto’s profits come from this end of their business than the bgh sales. If the dairy andcattle industries were eliminated, a whole lot more chemicals would be needed, to growthe fruits, vegetables, and grains the public would be consuming. Makes me wonder whois pumping money into Mr. Cohen’s campaign. Does hypocrisy have yet another name?Just my opinion, but this dude, and some of his fan club seem to be really angry at thedairy folk. I don’t hear any of the dairy folk telling you to drink milk, but this whole ideaseems to be aimed at stoping them from doing it, if they want to. If you can’t listen to adsand make your own judgements, then maybe there are a few other things you shouldn’t bedoing. No wonder some of them sound a bit defensive. I’ve yet to see the author logicallyrebut or answer any of their comments or questions. Cutsie remarks don’t impress me toomuch, I guess. What’s the rest of the story? He asked one fellow to give just one questionfor him to answer, well here’s mine: In one area of your book - I can’t look it up because Igave it back to the guy that loaned it to me - you stated that a particular group of farmershave much higher rates of leukemia. You attributed this, I believe, to milk consumption. What, and where is the data that would lead anyone to this conclusion? You gave no dataon this. I have read some on pesticides and hebicides, and think a much more logicalconclusion would be that these were the cause of increased cancer rates, not milkconsumption. This would make me want to drink more milk, and eat less directly treatedfood sources - hence a good argument for “why milk,” instead of “why not.” Almostevery example of the author’s reasons milk is bad, mirror this one. There is no data, orresearch supporting the conclusion - just a contorted form of logic, with data from somestudy sited, but it is either poorly interpreted, or irrelevent to the argument being made. I’m wondering if anyone even knows if these guys consumed any more or less milk thanany other population. I doubt it was even studied, so why did the author mention it?Sorry this was long - I don’t often get to do this computer thing ( I have an old manualtypewriter at home, and I can really whiz on this keyboard.), and like to share what I havelearned along the way, when I get the chance. I live pretty much in harmony with nature,and my fellow man, but it really bothers me when I see someone just pretending to “talkthe talk,” when I know exactly what it should look like, because I believe I’m one ofthose really “walking the walk.”Sign me - Unimpressed,Roger

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insert comments after this --> Dear Roger,

I admire your lifestyle and your comments. At times I imagine living alone in a log cabin in Oregon.

You are absolutely correct in suggesting that more research is needed. There are a lot of things wrong in this world and your choice seems to be a pretty good alternative.

If you have the ability to read those studies cited by Ron in the letter previous to yours please do so. I have printed the Juskevich and Guyer study in my book in its entirety, with detailed comments as to how and where FDA erred. If you have the book, please refer to pages 29-65.

The "proof" that milk was safe to drink was a lie. You seem to have missed this. Groenewegen (the scientist) pasteurized milk for 30 minutes at a temperature normally used for a 15 second heat treatment and destroyed only 19 percent of the hormone.

FDA incorrectly concluded that most of the hormone was destroyed and at that moment deemed the milk "safe for human consumption" and relieved MONSANTO from the obligation of doing further toxicology studies.

Previous studies indicated that spleens of lab animals increased in weight by 46% over control group animals while FDA reviewers said that there were no biological effects. These FDA reviewers included two MONSANTO scientists, Margaret Miller and Susan Sechen... hired by FDA to review their own research.

Why did you not mention this in your discourse? I would enjoy living in the woods like you and typing similar manifestos. However, I have performed intensive research and have discovered massive fraud.

You need only to review the two studies cited in Ron's letter (previous to yours) and my book to find TRUTH.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Ron Hamilton
Website: Good Bunny Awards
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: British Columbia
Time: 1998-04-23 09:37:55
Comments: Reading these comments make 3 things readily apparent. 1. Dairymen make money selling milk 2. Dairymen don't want to know the truth about milk. 3. Dairymen don't want anyone else to know the truth about milk. I have reveiwed both "Bioactivity of Milk from rBST-Treated Cows" Groenewegan et al. (journal of nutition Nov.1989) and "Bovine Growth Hormone: Human Food Safety Evaluation" Juskevich and Guyer SCIENCE Aug 24 1990 vol 249, pp 875-884. If either of these write-ups were turned in by a high school student, the student would receive a failing mark for drawing unsupported conclusions and improper "scientific" procedures.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Ron,

You and I have been friends for a year and I appreciate your perspective. Sometimes when somebody says someting intelligent, I think to myself, "I should have said that."

The two studies that you mention contain the greatest SCIENTIFIC FRAUD in the history of the world.

Anybody interested in applying a "Litmus Test" to find which side is telling the TRUTH!

NOTMILK vs GOTMILK!

should obtain those two studies. By reading "GROENEWEGEN" and seeing how "JUSKEVICH AND GUYER" lied about their major conclusion, all will have an answer to the question:

WHYMILK?!

The answer will be: "NOT in my body!"

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Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-23 08:07:19
Comments: In response to record #333

Robert Cohen,

If I was to bottle and sell the milk from my cows, would you buy some? Why not?

In your response to Jeremiah's message you pointed out several questions of mine that you have not answered. Here are some other questions you have not answered: record #333 Mr. Cohen, why do you scream? Are you afraid of me? record #327 Are they all valid? record #313 HOW IS ANYONE GOING TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND ACCURACY OF WHAT WAS SUPPOSIDLY SAID IN THESE SOURSES FOR YOUR BOOK????

--Wayne

P.S.: You have failed to see my point about those letter and phone sources. How is anyone going to know that those references are accurate? How is anyone going to know that they were just not a figment of your imagination? How is anyone going to know that those sources do not make up a majority of your book? Am I expected to believe that these sources are correct just because you say so?

P.P.S: Please respond this time instead of deleting the message. I was a little surprised the first time, but the second time I was shocked! What are you scared of Mr. Cohen? What is so awful about my message? I have not even tried to prove you wrong Mr. Cohen, what have I stumbled on to?

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insert comments after this --> Dear Wayne,

I will answer your last question first. What you have stumbled on is the revelation that you do not know what you are talking about. I have attempted to answer your questions, both on this page and privately. I have suggested that you discuss your relious questions with your religious leaders and your spelling, conjugation and referencing questions with your teachers.

I have tried my best to stop you from making self-incriminating statements which illustrate your own personal ignorance. I have failed from keeping you from making a fool of yourself and I regret that you have not gotten the message.

When writing an investigative work all notes and references should be passed on to the reader. I carefully analyzed the 336 references contained in my book and revealed to you in a publically posted message that only 11 of them were of the EMAIL/phone call and letter variety. Including such references and notes in a book of this type is not only appropriate, it is manditory.

Two of those letters are matters of public record, contained in a file at FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine. Those letters were published in an industry newsletter, "Food Chemical News." Three of the EMAIL messages have been retained in their original form. Phone calls were not recorded but careful notes were taken as the calls were made. Parts of my book reflect my own experience and are autobiographical in nature.

Not one individual has come forward to contest any of my 336 references, except for you.

Wayne, your comments are boring and repetitive, and are no longer welcome on this page. I have resisted taking a censorship role, but I can no longer tolerate you or your behavior.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-23 06:36:01
Comments: THEN WHY HAVE THIS HOMEPAGE if you will let people have milk. It is rather pointless if you look at it from an outside perspective.

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insert comments after this --> You asked me a simple question and requested a one word answer, giving me two choices, yes or no.

You wanted to know whether my purpose was to ban milk and dairy products throughout the world. That is not my purpose. My purpose is to let every person in this world know that milk is a deadly poison and that milk does not do a body good. My own personal philosophy is that man is a volitional being, responsible for his own actions and choices.

An individual may choose to have elective surgery or take drugs or self-mutilate himself... and I have no right, nor desire, to tell people how to run their lives. I do have an obligation, as we all do, to save a life when I see one in danger. I live by a rule that is shared by Jew and Christian and Moslem and Hindu and Buddhist and all of the world's religions. That rule is the Golden Rule. If I see your child in danger I most certainly would not hesitate in placing myself at risk to do the right thing.

I have helped cut people out of carwrecks and have entered burning buildings as a volunteer firefighter. I now am on a most important life saving mission. I have seen evidence that laboratory animals got cancer from a genetically engineered hormone that is now in our milk and cheese and butter and ice cream. Our scientists have failed us, induced by the lure of dollars. Our regulators have betrayed us, induced by relationships with pharmaceutical companies. Our politicians have betrayed us, induced by bribes that they call PAC money. Our doctors are part of a system in which they receive the total savings of people who have worked their entire lives and who spend the final ten years of their lives having quadruple bypasses or rotting away from cancer. My goal is to have your mothers and fathers leave their estates to you and not to your doctor and the multi-billion dollar medical machine that exists not to cure, but to prolong disease. My goal is to have you and your parents and your children discover the fountain of youth by giving up just one food from your diet. My wish is to have all people die in their sleep at age 110.

The choice is yours to make. I believe in a minimal amount of regulation. That's where we get into trouble. Over-regulation strips man of his basic freedoms of choice. No man has the right to tell another man what to eat or what to do with his body.

I do not want anyone to use dairy products but I will defend your right to do whatever you wish.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Jason
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Somewhere
Time: 1998-04-23 03:15:02
Comments: MILK IS GOOD FOR YOU> WHY DO YOU OPPSOE IT? NOTMILKMAN RESPONDS: (sigh)

Name: Westley
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: london
Time: 1998-04-23 03:13:22
Comments: Junior,

accusations only get us into trouble. Watch your mouth.


Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-23 03:12:47
Comments: This is in response to record 339. Thanks for the comment, but even though I am opposed to Mr. Cohen, I don't resort to using personal attacks. It is unappreciated by all. Unless you can post without using them, refrain from posting completely.

Name: jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: alaska
Time: 1998-04-23 03:10:45
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen,

To respond to your being specific, I don't know all of Wayne's points but I do know that I asked two specific questions that remain unanswered. They are as follows:

1.) (asked on 4-22) What does "The word of righteousness" have to do with milk?

2.) (asked on 4-22) Why do you quote from the New Testament if you don't believe it to be completely true?

Now I only have one friend who is Jewish so if I am wrong please tell me, and please answer my questions.

Regards...Jeremiah NOTMILKMAN COMMENTS: Dear Jeremiah, I have already sent an EMAIL message to you explaining that this GUESTBOOK will be used for milk discussions. If you wish to discuss any other topic please EMAIL me privately. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN


Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-23 03:07:41
Comments: I have a simple question. Do you want cow's milk and all products made from it to be banned across the world? A simple "yes" or "no" will do. NOTMILKMAN RESPONDS: NO! I do not wish to have anything banned. I believe that each man and woman should have the freedom to choose what goes into his or her own body. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN

Name: junior squared
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: the gates of hell
Time: 1998-04-23 02:50:21
Comments: i love milk! milk is our friend you lying bastard. NOTMILKMAN COMMENTS: I am happy for the two of you. Have a nice playdate. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN

Name: jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: alaska
Time: 1998-04-23 01:34:37
Comments: I am writing this time to respond mainly to Jay at record 336. calm down, this is for civilized and reasoned debate on the subject, though a lot of unreasoned quotes or quotes out of context are there they at least appear to have reasoning. so please give an intelligent not brash statement.

Mr. Cohen, all i really want to point out this time is that a lot of the questions that you get asked go unanswered, i know that i saw some very good points brought up by Wayne that you completely avoided answering, so if you could answer the questions you are asked or tell why you can't answer them, it would help us to understand and enlighten us I really want to know the answers, please.

Regards...jeremiah

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Dear Jeremiah,

Please be specific.  I have reviewed Wayne's letters and
find six questions that I did not answer.  The following
three do not deserve an answer.  If and when Wayne matures
I would be happy to discuss any subject with him.

1)  Asked on 4/15/98

    What motivates you to tell so many lies?

2)  Asked on 4/21/98

    Jews do not believe that Jesus was the son of God so
    how can you quote from something you do not believe?

3)  If you believe that Jesus was such a great teacher
    then why haven't you learned that Jesus died to save
    the world of their sins?

There are three questions thatI have previously answered
in great detail.  I will do so again.

1)  Asked on 4/17/98

    Where are your sources to back you up?

    ANSWER:  336 references, all listed on my website.

2)  Where are we dairy farmers getting that money?
    (I referred to the money paid to bribe NIXON)

    ANSWER:  Dairy farmers pay 15 cents for every
    hundred pounds of milk they produce to the National
    Fluid Milk Processors, the marketing board of the
    dairy industry.  This adds up to hundreds of millions
    of dollars each year.  A professional athlete is paid
    $20,000 to pose with a milk pustache.  It takes
    13 million pounds of milk to pay for that ad.

3)  The letter from the Nobel Prize Winner, did it apply
    to milk?

    Yes.  My communications with Gajdusek concerned
    a discussion about whether or not PRIONS, which cause
    an Alzheimer-type disease (CJD) in humans, could be
    passed from cow to person in the milk.

Jeremiah...if you have specific questions, I invite you to
ask them.
End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Lynne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: New York
Time: 1998-04-23 00:22:37
Comments: Must have stumped you back in March!! I find one major problem with your argument, Mr. Cohen: rbST is a PROTEIN!! Proteins are degraded within the gastrointestinal tracts by various proteases........So, why do you think that it is a POISON??? Please clarify my confusion. --Lynne (veterinary student AND DAIRY FARMER---and darned proud of it!!!)

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insert comments after this --> Dear Lynne,

That same question was asked of me by FDA scientists at our meeting of April 21, 1995. I responded, "If these protein hormones are destroyed... how about a nursing human mother? Does she pass on anything to her nursing infant?"

Their collective response was "Absolutely not. Perhaps psychological and nurturing benefits but nothing else."

Nursing mothers and pediatricians and scientific literature contradict these "scientists" and popular scientific belief.

Three mechanisms protect these "delicate" proteins. I deal with them in great detail in "MILK-The Deadly Poison."

The mechanisms are:

  • 1) Homogenization which micronizes the liposomes (makes the fat molecules smaller) enabling them to bypass the hypothetical construct referred to as "gut closure."

  • 2) Casein, the tenacious glue in milk, and most abundant milk protein.

  • 3) The buffering effect which milk has on gastric pH changes the stomach acidity from a very powerful 1.8 to a 6.0 which is more basic. Neutralized acid will not break down the proteins into their basic amino acids.
QUESTION: The human body produces 100 different antibodies to bovine proteins. How can that be if these proteins are destroyed?

Answer: They are not destroyed. They enter the bloodstream, intact, where they exert powerful systemic effects.

BOTTOM LINE: Either human breastfeeding functions to pass on lactoferins and immunoglobulins to the infant or it doesn't. The same acids and same mechanisms are at work insuring the survival of these factors. Drink milk and one utilizes an efficient hormonal delivery system. It is appropriate that human infants drink the breast milk from their mothers.

It is not appropriate for human adults to do the same. It is less than appropriate... it is absurd, to expect a human infant OR adult to consume dog milk or squirrel milk or cow milk or antelope milk or skunk milk......... ad infinitum...ad(d) nauseum!

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Jay
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1998-04-22 11:13:51
Comments: You know what? I think you people who think milk is bad for you are all IDIOTS!!! YOU STUPID MORONS GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS AND REALISE MILK DOE NO HARM TO YOU UNLESS YOUR LACTOSE INTOLERANT! YOUR FAGGOTS TO BELIVE THIS CRAP! IF YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THIS COMMENT GO AHEAD AND MAYBE I WILL GET BACK TO YOU BUT IN THE MEAN TIME MILK RULES AND YOU ALL SUCK!!!!!!

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insert comments after this --> Dear Jay,

There's really no "want" on my part "to respond to this comment," other then to say that:
when a letter is so written, the language, content and writing style, as well as personal philosophy of the author stand on their own and become quite revealing to those who read that letter.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Kenai Alaska
Time: 1998-04-22 08:22:10
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I will respond to your proposal for the discussion in private, but I do not know your e-mail address so I will respond but I'm afraid you will have to go first. And to let you know I am a Christian in the Wisconsin Lutheran Synod. To give you something to write about, yes all creatures originally started as vegans, because the was and wasn't meant to be any death, then Adam and Eve ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and they were told that if they eat of it they will surely die. And they disobeyed God and ate, so they, and everyone since, except the lord and redeemer Jesus the messiah (anointed one), has been caught in the pit. So animals became ferocious or domesticated, and lions ate meat and so did man. Now I am not against vegans, some of my friends are, but it does not mean that I am disobeying God by eating it or drinking milk. Now as science has progressed we have discovered that too much meat can be bad for you, but it takes approximately 1 pound of nuts to equal the amount of protein in approx. 2 ounces of meat. Do you know how much salt that is?!? That cannot be good for you, or anyone. I also noticed that you have failed to answer at least two of my questions: 1.) What does "the word of righteousness" have to do with milk? And 2.) Why do you use a quote from the New Testament if you do not believe it to be completely true? I would like to know the answers to these questions, and I am pretty sure others would like to know also. And if 25% of cow herds are treated with the poison, How about the other 75%?

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insert comments after this --> Dear Jeremiah,

All milk contains bGH/bST and IGF-I. Milk from cows injected with rbST/rbGH contains increased levels of these naturally occurring POWERFUL growth hormones. Milk from hundreds of farms is mixed together and then put into containers or processed for cheese or other dairy products.

You write, "I am not against Vegans. Some of my friends are." Why be against any human for the food they choose to eat, I wonder? I am not against people who drink milk.

However, I am "against" drug dealers, particularly the ones who would put poison (rbGH) into milk and ice cream and sell it to unsuspecting children. I am also against companies who manufacture such poison. I most certainly am against scientists and government regulators who know that animals got cancer from this same poison and who refuse to release the one study, authored by Richard, Odaglia and Deslex. That study can never be released, for to do so would result in financial ruin for MONSANTO, and reveal how our FDA has betrayed us. If you are a letter writer I would suggest that you write to your Congressman/woman and demand that this study be released. Whether it is religion or chemicals in our food, whether you are a farmer or a market research analyst... we must all join together and demand that TRUTH be respected and accepted as our highest ideal.

In 1996 America began to pass laws called "AGRICULTURAL DISPARAGEMENT ACTS" which make it against the law (in twelve states) to criticize an agricultural product. At the same time a Federal law was passed to insure that anybody releasing the Richard, Odaglia and Deslex study would go to jail for 15 years and be fined $1,000,000. That law, which Clinton signed in November of 1996, is called the ECONOMIC TREASON ACT, and protects MONSANTO and their hideous trade secrets.

A few months after enacting this law President Clinton praised MONSANTO in his State-of-the-Union address.

You admit that "too much meat can be bad for you." We have been warned by medical authorities that animal fat can cause heart disease. The average American, according to United States Department of Agriculture statistics, eats a total of three ounces each day of meat or chicken containing these dangerous animal fats. That same (imaginary) average American is eating more than ten times that amount of milk and dairy products containing the same animal fats which we known to be dangerous. Which do you think exerts more of an influence? The nine percent (meat) or the ninety-one percent (milk and dairy)?

As for the nuts, I cannot imagine anybody eating one pound of nuts at one sitting unless they were salted pistachios. Those are most certainly addictive!

Plants provide rich sources of protein. Proteins are made up of amino acids, the building blocks of life. Your liver manufacturers most of the amino acids your body needs. There are nine amino acids which must be obtained from foods. These aminos are collectively called essential amino acids.

Beans, potatoes and grains contain ALL of these essential amino acids. Vegetable such as broccoli and collards derive nearly half of their calories from protein and contain valuable calcium and magnesium too.

In "Diet For a Small Planet" Frances Moore Lappe dispels the American protein myths. Foremost on her list of myths is the belief that meat contains more protein than any other food. I once thought that a meatless diet would be boring. According to Lappe, there are basically five different kinds of meat and fifty different commonly eaten vegetables, twenty-four different legumes, twelve different nuts and nine different grains. The typical "meat & potatoes" diet is actually quite boring compared to the variety of tastes and textures available from the plant kingdom.

My Email address is: notmilkman@notmilk.com You can "click-on" the above [notmilkman@notmilk.com] to Email a private message to me.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: S. Gaia
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Coloradan relocated in Michigan
Time: 1998-04-22 07:55:38
Comments: Hello again! I would like to know just when the ads for artists' submissions were going to run. I didn't see a date on the page and hoped I hadn't missed the submission date! Thanks! Suzy Gaia

Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-22 03:12:12
Comments: Hello everyone,

Response to Kevin in record #329
I feel even more sorry for you! I can say only one good thing about his teachings, milk from animals treated with rBST or rBGH is bad for you, but he then takes these facts and applies them to milk in general, which makes his argument incorrect. Yes, I do know what a bibliography is and how to use a library? When I am questioning his reliability I point out the fact that e-mails, phone calls, and conversations leave a lot of room for incorrect interpretation and corruption. He has pointed out to me that they do make up less than three percent of his sources. "Three percent of the dairy farmers can produce a lot more than three percent of the milk" is a figure of speech that I have used to say how that those sources could have played an important role in his writings. As for hormones, I am sick of you city folks that blame ALL dairy farmers for the fact that hormones are used. There are those of us who don't support the use of hormones! The best we can do is not use them and encourage others not to use them.

Response to Kevin in record #330
Is that what they had to do to you??? If I told you that Robert Cohen was brainwashing you to believe that his book was absolutely true, would you deny it??? I could tell almost any of Mr. Cohen's followers that he is brainwashing them so they will believe what he is saying and they will tell me that Mr. Cohen is only showing them the truth. Brainwashed maybe?? You even said, "Remember, the real power of brainwashing is that the subject does not even realize that he or she is brainwashed." Mr. Cohen, why do you scream? Are you afraid of me?

Mr. Cohen, you are sure quick to defend and support those who insult me. Not too long ago you told me in a e-mail, "Name calling detracts from your integrity." At any rate: If you believe that Jesus was a great teacher, why have you failed to learn his greatest message of all? That message is that Jesus suffered and died again to save the world from their sins. If you want a really good supported argument from me, I will give it to you soon enough. --Wayne

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insert comments after this --> Dear Wayne,

You and I are going to make a great team! Thank you for agreeing with me. You just wrote that "MILK from animals treated with rbST is bad for you."

See? We agree on something.

Here's the problem, Wayne. Cows from 25% of the herds in America are being treated with this poison. Last I looked, they don't sell milk from "WAYNE'S WORLD," although you could put it into bottles and make a fortune with that name.

In the New York area there are two major distributors. Each one buys milk from an average of 600 different dairies. They then mix the bad milk with the really bad milk, so.... That means that all milk contains this dangerous genetically engineered "Frankenfood." You may not use it but your neighbor does.

Land of Lakes admit that they use it and so does Kraft Foods. Dannon Yogurt uses it and so does Pizza Hut. Do you see the problem we have? Even you admit it's bad for you. What do you suggest we do, Wayne?

P.S. -- There are 336 references to be found on my WEBSITE. References #4 & #6 were EMAILS. References #20, 26, 118, 134 & #335 were letters. References #33, #37, #120 & #317 were telephone calls. That makes a total of eleven references which you object to.

How about the other 325 references?


End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: rose bollerud
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: beaver dam wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-22 02:36:51
Comments: been hearing on the radio,the dairy industry rebuttals to this book, so i thought i would check it out....what you're saying makes perfect sense to me...i believe that milk probably is not good for you, neither is all the meat we eat..would like to give it all up and live on grains, veggies & fruits...Keep up the good work!

Name: jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: kenai alaska
Time: 1998-04-21 19:51:49
Comments: Mr. Cohen, first of all proteins are needed in the body to help grow. It's a fact. And the meat from animals especially cows is good for you. Now I'm not against all vegans but I can't understand why some one would shun what God put here for us to herd and take care of and use. And back to the God subject, I am (with help) carefully researching the Greek translation of Hebrews and when I get it I will give you the literal translation. And if you do as you say and take the words of the Lord (I've never known a Jew to even trust that the words of the new testament are true) then you, at face value, should read on and find the meaning of what you wrote. And I have some questions:1.) what does "the word of righteousness," have to do with milk!?2.) Why do you use a quote from the new testament if you do not believe it to be completely true?3.) If meat protein is bad for us why did God say kill and eat?Now, I do this to show a few things, first, you did not research your quote from the Bible, and if you didn't fully research that completely then all of your other references lose validity. In other words there is a flaw in your argument. Now for your sake please research your quotes more (especially the Bible)! And when I wrote to at least read the around verse because I customized it to your situation, because only a little more reading would show what it means, use the Bible as it was meant don't twist it to lie, please change it, for your sake (again not a threat). Truthfully in Christ.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Jeremiah,

History books are filled with accounts of wars and conflicts waged over biblical interpretations. You claim to be studying Greek. Why not read the Torah in the original hebrew? God permitted people to eat meat (Deut. 12:20). The permitted meat (without blood) was called "b'sar'ta'avah" which translates as "meat of lust." Meat was permitted, not as a necessity of life, but as God's concession to man's "lust."

The Torah laws show compassion to animals and it is forbidden to inflict pain upon any living creature.

God's original intent was for man to be a vegetarian. Fruits and vegetables contain all the protein that we need to maintain great health. As you know, early biblical figures lived much longer than we do today. I assume you accept the biblical stories to be true.

And God said:

"Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed-to you it shall be for food." (Genesis-1:29)

If you follow God's dietary laws (are you a Seventh Day Adventist?) I invite you to write to me and I will continue this discussion...privately.

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Name: Kevin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-04-21 18:55:54
Comments: Robert, I think you will have to take your book and all of the website comments you've made during the past year, put them all in a blender, add a large amount of whole milk and sweet cream, blend it into a smooth puree, then inject it into Wayne's bloodstream to get him to believe or even understand what you're saying. Remember, the real power of brainwashing is that the subject does not even realize that he or she is brainwashed.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Kevin,

If we add sugar to that blender and freeze it we'll have:

ICE CREAM....which describes what I do each time I see a letter from Wayne...

I SCREAM!

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Name: Kevin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Five miles from the world's most despicable corporation
Time: 1998-04-21 18:48:43
Comments: Enough already Wayne. Man.... go lie down before you hurt yourself. This is starting to get embarrassing and I almost feel sorry for you. Let me ask you this, "Do you really think that Mr. Cohen would write an entire book exposing unethical practices of the US Government and the world's most powerful industries, appear on numerous radio call-in shows across the country, create a website and fervently defend his book everyday for over a year if the book contained no facts?" Do you really think he just made it all up? Do you know what a bibliography is? Do you know how to use a library? If so, go check out the references, find all of the flaws in the cited studies, do your own research to show that bovine milk is the perfect food for humans, then report back to Mr. Cohen and I bet he would issue you a big apology. Otherwise, quit wasting his valuable time.

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Amen!

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Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-21 08:27:38
Comments: Well, if Tiny would of had a bull calf, the calf would be raised and at the age from one to two years he would be sold, most likely to some Amish people, for a quality Jersey breeding bull. What they do with him is their decision. Tiny's first bull calf was sold for breeding purposes and the new owner was quite pleased with the bull. As for Tiny's first heifer calf, she is still on our farm and is a healthy happy heifer that will live a long life out on our pastures and so will Tiny's new heifer calf.

Jeremiah is a good friend of mine. I know he will say almost this same thing, except with quotes, but NO ONE has the right to interpret the word of God in the way that they want to. The bible then can be twisted to prove anything imaginable. One thing I don't understand; Jews do not believe that Jesus was the son of God, the savior of all mankind, so how can you quote from something that was written about something that you don't believe?

Maybe tomorrow I will feel more like an argument, but now I am tired. --Wayne

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You and I both jumped to conclusions with stereotypes. I believed that your baby bulls would be fed anemic diets like most of the other baby males born to cows in America. I assumed that this animal would be kept in a stall so that it could not exercise so that its flesh would be pink and then be clubbed to death and sold as veal. I am happy to learn that this does not occur on your farm. You assume something about Jews that is not close to truth. Jews believe that Jesus was one of the greatest men to have ever walked the face of the earth.

Jesus was a great healer and even greater teacher. He brought truth to people by disparaging the myths of his era. Many people could not believe his lessons because when political and sociological custom is challenged, truth is often denied and then violently opposed. Jesus wanted his followers, those who believed in his message, to find truth and in doing so live healthier and happier lives.

Jesus appealed to the common man. He revealed that those who ruled were betraying man's best interests. Jesus pointed out the corrupt ways by which the rulers comported theselves. His life was a struggle and he was in constant debate. He was crucified for his message and beliefs, yet, began a movement which over one billion people are now a part of.

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Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-21 04:04:11
Comments: Hello Mr. Cohen,

I'm back! I am feeling real good, too! They had some fresh cottage cheese in the cafeteria today, it was really good. Oh, and my favorite cow, Tiny, had a heifer calf. So, I am really happy. There is nothing that you can do that can ruin the day that I am having.

Source Reliability
I do agree that phone calls and e-mail messages is an essential part of a report, if you are writing a term paper about a event in history in which you need first hand experiences. If someone is writing a report or a book about something scientific, personal experience would be much more reliable. I do admit that a lot of the sources are reliable, but all you need to use is one little name or number for it to be a valid source. Are they all valid? I am questioning the accuracy of the other ones. Phone conversations, e-mails, and other letters can easily be corrupted to prove a point. As for them being less than three percent of your sources, well I will say this: Three percent of the dairy farmers can produce a lot more that three percent of the milk! And as for your letter from a the 1976 Nobel Prize winner… Just because you win some prize, certainly does NOT make all your words the truth. Did it even apply to the topic of milk? In your response to message #313, you said, "FDA and MONSANTO refuse to release data from these reports which indicate that laboratory animals got sick and suffered unusual effects from the same hormone that is now in America's milk and cheese." Here is a good question: How do you know that the animals got sick and died if the reports were never RELEASED? Do you know for a fact that these SAME hormones are in America's milk and cheese?

Standing up for what I believe.
--Wayne
a young dairy farmer

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insert comments after this --> Dear Wayne,

You do sound happy! Congratulations on that baby cow! Share with us, if you would, the fate of the baby males born to your cows. By the way... cottage cheese for lunch? You do sound lucky. You must have walked through the school halls sporting a milkpustache. Nothing excites women like the sight of that white creamy cottage cheese sticking underneath a man's nose.

You ask how I know that the animals got sick if the study was unpublished and the data never released?

GOOD QUESTION!

The greatest controversy in the history of the FDA was the approval of the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone which is now used on 25% of the farms in America.

I am the only American invited to meet with a group of the top FDA scientists. On April 21, 1995 I learned that this key study was never reviewed by the FDA reviewers. After my meeting these scientists looked at the data from the study for the first time.

Oops! The poison had already been approved. They could not withdraw it from the market.

One heart value, in the words of FDA was:

"An impossible value."

Some of the data was published in the journal, SCIENCE. I noted that the average spleen increase for the female animals was 46 percent while the average spleen rates of the males increased 39 percent. FDA had approved the new hormone because they found no biological effects.

The letter which they wrote to me said:

"There is an unresolved issue regarding the average spleen weight for the female group."

FDA also wrote:

The available data are not sufficent to determine the correct value. In either case, the effect on spleen weight is not considered to be biologically meaningful."

There were 360 laboratory animals in this study...enough to form statistically reliable conclusions. A footnote to the letter from FDA to myself states:

"There were too many questionable weights for ovary and testes for a reliable analyses of these organs."

Reference #45 in the August 24, 1990 SCIENCE paper revealed that 32 different tissues and organs from 360 lab animals were tested. This reference lists all of the different tissues and organs analyzed. The last reference is quite revealing. After bladder and uterus comes "and all gross lesions." A lesion is scientific terminology for a cancer.

When a spleen increases in size 46% over the control group that is a warning signal. The spleen is the first sentinel of defense in the lymphatic system. When the body is under "siege" the spleen produces new white and red blood cells. Such growth in a human often results in a diagnosis of leukemia.


In 1958 Congress passed the Delaney Amendment which stipulated that if a food additive causes cancer it is not to be approved.

Monsanto, manufacturer of this hormone got their attorney, Michael Taylor hired by the FDA. Taylor wrote a paper and it was published in the Journal of the American College of Toxicology. Lawyers usually publish in law review journals, not scientific journals. Scientists have trouble getting published. For Taylor to be published in a scientific peer-review journal was unprecedented! He minimized cancer and helped his client. His paper was "A DE-MINIMUS INTERPRETATION OF THE DELANEY AMENDMENT." Taylor instituted new policy at FDA. He wrote the food labeling bills for his old client. He then went to work for the USDA as an UNDERSECRETARY. He is now back at the law firm (King & Spalding) that represents Monsanto.

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Name: jeremiah
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: kenai, alaska
Time: 1998-04-21 04:03:54
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I found this website from a close friend of mine, he is a dairy farmer he uses jerseys without any hormones or added things, he is a very honest and intelligent person and he has showed me some of the debates that you two have had on this site over the milk subject he is wayne,and I would like to write some things as to how I feel about this subject, first of all I am not a big milk drinker mainly because of where I live, because the milk has had time to get old and the taste has gone down, but some weeks ago milk was all I could drink and I have had no defects at all. And just to prove some of my points I do not drink much milk and I take no pills of any kind and I am 6'1'' tall and my weight is 225, and that cannot be blamed on milk. What I wrote may seem not to be relevant and probably isn't but when I read some of your replies that's how I felt, they made no sense and completely avoided the subject, so I ask you please answer the questions, relevantly. As for your '25 million women with osteoporosis that drank two pounds of milk every-day for over fifty years' comment anything taken in excess can and is bad for anyone. If milk is so bad why did God make it so women could breast feed babies milk? Studies show that mothers milk from right after the baby is born contains needed vitamins and minerals to help the baby to mature and grow correctly. I also went to your quote page and I must say that you taking the holy word of God himself out of context is almost blasphemous, if you are going to quote the good book at least read around the verse and try to understand what it is saying. I not having a King James Version with me found this quote in the NIV version and I looked through it and found that the meaning of the verse has not changed. Now let me explain, it says, "Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil" (Concordia Self-Study Bible NIV Hebrews 5:13-14). After reading that no one understands what it means (especially in the King James). So we read on in Hebrews 6:1 for to find the meaning of the portion of scripture it says, "therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and faith in God." So what that misquoted portion of scripture you are trying twist to your cause means is: don't only use the basic teachings of Christ: that he is God and died for our sins( milk: fed to babies from the start until they are old enough for solid food). But go on to solid food: the proof that Jesus Christ is God and that he did triumph over the grave, but always return to the basic truth(milk) to grow completely. So next time you want to use scripture use it in context, please, for your sake(not a threat).

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insert comments after this --> Dear Jeremiah,

I believe you, when you represent that you are in perfect physical condition. So were the young men who died and were autopsied during the Korean War. The autopsy results shocked America because these kids were diseased with advanced levels of atheresclerosis, hardening of the arteries. They thought that they we in great shape too. The "butter" in their hearts was blamed on the "American Diet."

You (and he average American) eat a total of three ounces each day of dangerous animal proteins (MEAT) of which consumption of has been attributed to heart disease. You also eat in excess of ten times that amount of milk and dairy products containing ten times the amounts of cholesterol and animal fats. Why have so few people figured out the connection? Why is there so much denial? What a piece of work is man, how noble in reason? How infinite in faculty?

Jeremiah, do you realize that you wrote, "If you're going to quote the good book, at least read around the verse."

You have the right to interpret the words of God any way you wish to. Although my name is Cohen, and I am Jewish, I admit to enjoy reading the beautiful words of wisdom contained in the New Testament. I accept these words of the Lord at face value, as they were written.

HEBREWS 5:13-14:

"Everyone that useths milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. But solid food belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."

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Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-04-21 03:47:07
Comments: Why in the world would God give us milk for our babies if it is not good for us. When that hormone says GROW GROW GROW, as you put it, the excess energy can be removed if you exercise daily. It is not that hard.

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insert comments after this --> I rest my case!!!

You are soooo brainwashed that you admit that nature's perfect food is milk from the mother of a specific species to its own infant...and you do not realize that this is TRUTH!

Infant humans are supposed to double their weight in four months and cows are supposed to gain 500 pounds in six months.

Adults of the species are not supposed to experience proportionate weight gains.

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Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-21 03:33:02
Comments: Please remember that most of the cholesterol in milk is not LDP, the bad kind of cholesterol.Most of the cholesterol in milk is HDP, the kind of cholesterol that you need for your body's survival.

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insert comments after this --> Aaaaagghh...

Even the dairy industry promotes low fat or no fat milk, admitting that animal fats and cholesterol are the biggest contributors to heart disease.

A very close friend, Dr. Charles Attwood, related the story of his first autopsy...performed on a nine-year-old girl when he was a second year medical student.

In that autopsy Attwood found bright yellow deposits of cholesterol in the arterial walls of that little girl.

Today, forty million American children have abnormally high cholesterol levels, according to the President of the American Heart Association. That same Association, when informed that the average American, from milk and dairy products, eats the same cholesterol contained in 19,000 slices of bacon each year wrote:

"The American Heart Association's position on nutrition supports milk and dairy products in a well balanced daily diet. The principles discussed in "MILK-The Deadly Poison" are not in agreement with the American Heart Association's policy and scientific statements on nutrition."

I'd like see this etched on the tombstone of each American dying from America's NUMBER#1 KILLER:

HEART DISEASE


19,000 SLICES OF BACON'S WORTH OF CHOLESTEROL FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN EACH YEAR FROM MILK AND DAIRY PRODUCTS AND I WAS NEVER TOLD THE TRUTH!!!

The American Heart Association holds a convention each year and has just informed this author that his book does not meet their criteria and that he is not welcome to attend that convention...

19,000 SLICES OF BACON---AVERAGE AMERICAN. BY AGE 52 THAT ADDS UP TO ONE-MILLION SLICES OF BACON. THE AVERAGE AMERICAN, HIS DOCTOR AND THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE.

If I didn't know better I'd suspect that the American Heart Association is in the business of PROMOTING heart disease.

The exhibit mangager, Mary Burnett can be reached at 204-706-1311. Her FAX number is 214-373-3406 and her EMAIL address is mburnett@amhrt.org

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Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-21 03:28:33
Comments: Also, in taking high-density Calcium supplement pills, the body is not able to absorb all the calcium, according to the science textbook published in 1995 that most schools in the U.SA. use. Please, if you can find proof against this statement, give me an accurate source.

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insert comments after this --> Agreed.

Furthermore, the body is not able to absorb the calcium in milk. In the presence of protein, calcium is poorly absorbed.

The 1995 study that you most probably are referring to was quite revealing:

Dietary protein increases the production of acid in the blood which can be neutralized by calcium mobilized from the skeleton. (American Journal of clinical Nutrition, 1995; 61 (4), 909.

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Name: SN_Phoenix_SW
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-21 03:23:16
Comments: This is in response to your response of record 318Please remember that most of the water content of milk is evaporated in products such as cheese, butter, and especially ice cream.Research your topic more before making such brazen and untrue accusations.

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insert comments after this --> I am not particularly concerned about the 87.2% of water contained in milk. I am concerned about the allergenic proteins, hormones and pus that remains after that water is evaporated. I will admit that the pus is tasty, particularly when there are streaks of blue mold growing throughout different varieties of cheese like Roquefort and Stilton. Just the thought of biting into a concentrated piece of pus-filled cholestrol and fat makes me salivate like a Pavlovian puppy.

Milk contains fat, cholesterol, pus, protein and steroid hormones and allergenic proteins. Milk and ice cream are concentrated milk products containing these same concentrated components.

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Name: Jeff
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: CA
Time: 1998-04-20 17:59:55
Comments: Been gettting some flack from my dairy consuming, non- vegan friends, ( I eat vegetarian) concerning this website. Now I know why. Since when did being vegetarian mean being ignorant and closed minded? This guy is either running a scam, or something. I can't figure it out. From what I see - he does not back up any of his statements on this site, and some of the more obviously blatent ones couldn't possibly be backed up. I don't use dairy products much, but don't feel the need to spread lies about them. What's the purpose here? Here's one statement that really threw me, as I've studied this a lot to help myself and others get proper amounts of calcium in our diets.:"Twenty-five million American women over the age of forty have been diagnosed with bone crippling arthritis and osteoporosis.   These females have been drinking in excess of two pounds of milk per day for their entire adult lives.   Why are their doctors blind to the fact that drinking milk does not prevent osteoporosis? "Plenty of studies have been done to show that dairy indeed does provide the needed calcium to prevent osteoporosis. When this notmilk man says these women consume 2# of milk a day, he MEANS "per capita consumption" is X amount per day. This is different from the average American's consumption.Many Americans consume no dairy products at all. The studies further show that most of these 25 million women DO NOT consume adequate amounts of milk or other foods to get their calcium, and most consume little to no dairy at all! No wonder they are suffering. Milk can not be blamed for their non-consumption of it or other appropriate foods. No wonder my friends are upset. Please don't associate me with this crowd. If you have to make up lies, the truth must not be telling the story you want the people to hear.Jeff

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insert comments after this --> Dear Jeff,

I am pleased to have the opportunity to respond to you.

"MILK-The Deadly Poison" contains many dozens of referenced studies published in scientific journals destroying the well financed myth that we need to drink body fluids from other animals or our bones will become weak. Milk from cows does not prevent osteoporosis. I am not the first to suggest that that cow's milk might actually be the culprit.

A recent book by Vicki Griffin, MD ("Mooove Over Milk"-- 1-800-453-8732) quotes two well respected medical authorities:
FRANK OSKI-Former Chairman, Department of Pediatrics, State University of New York, Syracuse
"But doctor, what will happen to my teeth and bones if I stop drinking milk?" "Nothing. Nothing that wouldn't have happened anyway."
HANS DIEHL, MD - Author of "Dynamic Living," and past Director of the Pritiken Institute
"Cultures with the highest milk consumption have the highest osteoporosis rates, a disease rarely found in non-milk-drinking cultures."
The following journal articles will provide evidence that the most significant factor in osteoporosis is too much dietary protein (which inhibits calcium absorption). Keep in mind this fact: Milk is liquid meat and the protein in milk inhibits calcium uptake so that only 25% of the calcium is absorbed. (According to Richard Heaney, Ph.D. Heaney is listed on the reverse side of a dairy industry WHY MILK brochure as an "EXPERT." I accept Heaney's conclusion.)

Review these articles:

1) American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1974, 27 (9) 916
2) Journal of Nutrition, 1981, 111 (3) 545-552
3) SCIENCE, 1986, 233 (4763), 519

Seventy percent of women over the age of sixty-five have bone-crippling osteoporosis. FDA has approved three non-hormonal therapies this year which prevent the osteoclasts from depleting bone density.

A study published by the Journal of Nutrition (1990, 120 (1) 134, revealed that increased protein intake of less than two ounces daily caused an extra 60 mg of calcium to be excreted in the urine.

The Journal of Nutrition also noted that increasing the protein intake by 100% would cause calcium loss to double. (1981, 111 (3), 553.

If you visit a pharmacy you will find that calcium pills also contain magnesium. In order to absorb one mg of calcium... you need an equal mg of magnesium. For your information... magnesium is the center atom of chlorophyll. That's why cows have so much calcium in their milk... they eat the "green stuff." So should we!

I have taken note that you are a "visiting student." Please access these studies from your college library, eat plenty of green veggies or take two cal-mag pills and call me in the morning!

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Name: Brandi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ky
Time: 1998-04-20 10:52:27
Comments: I just read your comment to melanie on April 17 about BST. Have you ever used BST? Do you have any firsthand experience with it? I have. We used BST for quite a while. You act like it takes an eternity to get the syringes ready, prep the cow, and inject the cow. It takes hardly any time at all. And when you get it down to a routine, the cow never knows she's been stuck. Yes, we had to feed the cows a little more, but in the end, it added up for us. You may not think that pennies are much, but when you milk cows, every little extra penny you can get per pound really adds up. The reason that so many claim that BST causes mastitis is because a high producing cow has a higher chance of getting mastitis. What if I have a cow producing over a hundred pounds a day without BST? She is more prone to mastitis, but with proper management you won't have it. When we used BST we never had a higher rate of mastitis. I think it all boils down to the dairyman and his management ability. Milking may be a way of life for some families, and they may do it not only for the money but because it has been in their families for generations. For me, it is money, just as your book is money for you. Anything that will help me make more money, I'm all for it. But that doesn't make me a mean person who tortures her cows. I take care of those cows just as I do my dog Gus. If we had felt that BST was endangering our cows or milk then we wouldn't have used it. So, are you gonna send me that book? I'm waiting.

Name: Brandi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: KY
Time: 1998-04-20 10:28:39
Comments: Well, I'm back. By the way, I saw you on HardCopy just a week or two ago. You don't look like I expected you to. Anyways, I wanted to ask you if your book is in libraries. I admit I want to read your book just to see your claims and sources, but there's no way in hell that as a dairy farmer I will pay for it. I'm sure you're a wealthy guy. You ought to just send it to me as a gesture of your kindness. It looks like I'm your biggest "fan." Heck, after I read it I'll even mail it back to you. Come on, be kind. I'm just a poor ole dairy farmer.

Name: Stephen Philpott
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1998-04-20 02:33:10
Comments: Hi Robert Have'n't visited you lately and just thought I'd drop you a line. I trust book sales are going well. I must admit I'm a little dissapointed about something. After Roger Cady set you straight about commercial milk dissaperance on Dairy-L, I just knew you would have updated your site by now.Have you added an updated chapter in your book?no...? Oh well, it doesn't take accuracy to sell books does it? Hope you sleep well at night. Stephen Philpot (Dairy Farmer)

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insert comments after this --> Dear Stephen,

Thank you! :>) I sleep very well at night. That is because I do not have milk buffering the acid in my stomach and my digestive processes run quite efficiently. No gas, no bloating and I need 4-5 hours of sleep each evening.


Stephen is referring to an unresolved issue...Just how much milk is actually produced and how much milk is required to satisfy the needs of the average American?

On page 7 of "MILK-The Deadly Poison" there is a chart with the per-capita consumption of seventeen dairy products. This chart also gives a conversion rate defining just how much milk is used to produce each product.

For example...In 1995 the average American ate 27.7 pounds of cheese. It takes ten pounds of milk to produce one pound of cheese. The average American ate 4.5 pounds of butter. It takes 21.2 pounds of milk to make one pound of butter. The average American ate 15.9 pounds of ice cream. It takes 12 pounds of milk to make one pound of ice cream.

Take those three products and add them together and you will find that it took 562 pounds of milk to produce them. Yet, the USDA claims that the average American ate less than this amount of milk and dairy products.

When the butter and whole milk and 2% and skim milk are added to the cream and sherbet and dried whey and nonfat milk and dozens of other products (not on the list) the average consumption is at least 50% higher than the USDA admits.

THE NUMBERS DO NOT ADD UP.

USDA uses complicated conversions factors based upon milk fat content. Their "guesstimation" of milk consumption is not an exact science.

Stephen is referring to an unresolved debate. For those interested in reviewing the archives of, or subscribing to DAIRY-L:

http://www.wam.umd.edu/~markv/

If my numbers are correct, the average American consumes the same cholesterol each year from milk and dairy products contained in 19,000 slices of bacon. If Stephen and the dairymen are correct then the average American will consume the same cholesterol contained in 17,000 slices of bacon in 1998.

I do not imagine the answer to this no-win discussion will give those in the dairy industry much comfort. Perhaps that is why they wisely ended the debate ten months ago.

I find it troubling that not ONE man or woman from the industry was willing to appear on HARD COPY to contest this issue with me. If Stephen is correct, I'll look foolish. If I am correct, America will learn the truth about milk and dairy products.

There is a television producer representing a major talk-show personality now looking for a group of individuals from FDA, Monsanto and the dairy industry to debate me. Any volunteers?


How about you, Stephen?
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Name: chris owens
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: kansas city
Time: 1998-04-18 20:11:11
Comments: any additional info. about reasons not to drink milk would be welcomed! thanks so much for this valuable service.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Chris,

I'll give you three good reasons and each one naively wears a milk-pustache.

SPIKE LEE: African American Director... Ninety percent of African Americans are lactose intolerant. Do you think that Spike knows that by taking dairy industry dollars he betrays his own race?

PATRICK EWING: Patrick has been wearing a cast on his arm for most of the 1998 season... His bone became brittle and broke in what appeared to be a minor fall. Patrick thinks that milk prevents osteoporosis. He joins 25 million American women with the disease and they have been drinking, on average, two pounds of milk each day for fifty years.

LARRY KING: Last seen doing "GARLIQUE" commercials... endorsing a product which helps lower cholesterol. Larry recently had bypass heart surgery and should be aware that this year the average American, from milk and dairy products will consume the same cholesterol contained in 19,000 slics of bacon. Larry proudly wears his pustache, ignorant of the TRUTH.

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Name: Liz
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Mrs. Lynch's Computer Class
Time: 1998-04-18 06:50:54
Comments: Dear NOTMILKMAN, I have a poem for you that we wrote in class. Virus, pus bacteria, At the cafeteria-- Powerful growth hormones too, Cholesterol with fat and glue-- Cancer, bone and heart disease, Diabetes if you please-- Butter, milk and American cheese... NATURE'S PERFECT FOOD!

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I can hear the music now. Saxaphone, bass, piano, drumroll... Maybe we'll get Frank Sinatra to come out of retirement...

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Name: Jeffree Moline
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-04-18 01:02:16
Comments: Dear Notmilkman.....Wow is right. Once again I just surfed on to see what was happening on what is currently my favorite web site. I never thought that any comment I made in my previous letter would get you into trouble. I didn't necessarily mean the dairy industry was the "ignorant masses", but all of us who automatically believe that our government doesn't lie to us, that what they see on tv or magazines is the truth, etc. I grew up in a town who's main industry is Spam (yuck). My family raised animals that were slaughtered to "feed the world". It was ugly. It was dirty. You are truly courageous. I don't think I could take all the anger as graciously as you. I am an athlete. I run up to ten miles a day, I go to the gym. I look half of my 40 years. My youngest brother is 4 years my junior, yet looks 10 years older than I. He eats dairy and meat. I don't....it could be coincidence, but I doubt it. I have told my local bookstore to order me a copy of your book in hopes that they will carry it in stock. PS....a prophet is never honored by his own people....in a way you are a prophet so preach on brother Bob, preach on.

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I'm no prophet, just a witness trying to tell what he's found. The truth is there for all to see. Your story is more than just anecdotal... added together with millions of others, you have learned that milk does NOT do the body good.

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Name: Susan Chaires
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wyoming
Time: 1998-04-17 19:15:49
Comments: I am vegan and am interested in any info in support of my beliefs.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Susan,

I used to be a meat eating ice cream consuming cheesehead. At that time I couldn't have cared less about compassion for animals. Gotta eat, right?

I have studied the many issues of farming and now agree that in order to feed America we have created horrible torturous conditions where animals are raised to be slaughtered without compassion. Their lives end in fear and pain.

That is not why I no longer eat meat, although that is reason enough for any caring human. I no longer eat meat and dairy products out of COMPASSION for my own body.

If you leave meat out of the refrigerator, what happens? You do not have to understand the biological processes to smell something quite undesirable. What happens at a temperature of 98.6 Fahrenheit? The process of digestion takes soooo long to break down the meat proteins into basic amino acids. The acids flow and the meat ferments. A body needs many more hours to digest food on a meat and dairy diet than on a vegan diet.

Being a vegan means having compassion for your own body! There are many vegetarians who eat dairy products. They do so in the belief that animals are treated humanely on dairy farms. They do so in the belief that dairy products are easily digested.

Dairy products change the acidity in the stomach so that the digestive process takes many hours longer. Milk buffers gastric pH so that protein hormones in milk survive the strong acid.

Last night my daughter asked if we had any sour cream... I had to laugh. She knew the answer, but was frustrated because she wanted the rich taste associated with sour cream for a vegetable dip.

I opened up a 12 ounce box of silken-soft TOFU (Morinaga Nutritional Foods, Inc., Torrance, CA--... 69 cents!) and added the juice of one lemon and one teaspoon of salt and mixed the three ingredients in my blender. It tasted exactly like sour cream--- no pus or hormones either!

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Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-17 08:25:51
Comments: Convinced??? Yes, I am convinced that you have a serious problem. That problem is you hear only what you want to hear!

Times in which you hear only what you want to hear:
1.) Somebody writes you a message and will pick out one little line and say that it is a poor argument.
2.) Tell people that insults are going to get them no where and also say to them, "I hope that they let you use a plastic spoon with your food... sharp tools might be a mistake."(Robert Cohen's response to record #306 in the notmilk guest book). You and your few vegitable followers refer to milk drinkers as "ignorant masses" or "ignorant" or "immature"
3.) When someone attacks the accuracy of one of you "facts" on your homepage you want them to back up what they say with scientific facts from reports. Where are your sources to back you up! I don't mean just because you say so, but real reports and published scientific data, not someone told me this or I talked to sombody.

Now I am taking your approach. You find facts from REAL and PUBLISHED reports to prove ME wrong.
Some time ago my dad bought a book. If I remember correctly, and I almost always do, this book was called The Zone. In this book, may I also note that this author has real facts to back up his claims through his own expiraments and logical explinations, he says that people get fat because of eating too many grains. I was very doubtful at first. As my dad tried to explain this to me he said, "How do you fatten up your cattle." I responded, "We feed them corn and other grains." Now that actually makes sense or at least lot more than your milk belly statement! And if you haven't noticed there are a lot of fat americans and the american government tells us that gain should be the base for our diet. Just think, we eat grain everywhere, breackfast cerial, toast, waffles, pancackes, pizza, spigetti, various noodles, rice, and thousands of other foods that call for grain in the recipe. Think of the Egyptians, what was the base of their diet? What we know of them is that they grew grain the fertile Nile River valley. Reports also tell of them that they had poor teeth and a short life expectancy. A lot of Americans have tooth problems and a lot of people get old before their time: The ancient Egyptians didn't even have toothpaste or all kinds of vaccines that we have now!

Oh, and there is also this million/billion issue.
Several dairy farmers have also pointed out that is one part per BILLION and NOT one part per million. Every time someone has brought that up you have just ignored it.

And of course there is your quotes!
One of your quotes is ("These dairymen are organized; they're adamant, they're militant...And they, they're massing an enormous amount of money that they're going to put into political activities, very frankly."Secretary of the Treasury John Connally to President Richard Nixon, from The Watergate Tapes, March 23, 1971) First of all, this involves Presedent Nixon, remember, the one that got kicked out. It states that the dairy farmers are organized, what a joke! They are currently trying to get dairy farmers to sign up to price there own milk. They want to get 20% to sign up. I will be surprised if they get that many! For the statement, "they're massing an enormous amount of money". Please tell me, WHERE ARE WE GETTING THAT MONEY??? And another one of your qoutes: ("My illness is due to my doctor's insistence that I drink milk, a whitish fluid they force down helpless babies." W.C. Fields) One man that I know said that W.C. Fields was a notoriious drunkard and a liar. He also said, "I like children, when they are properly cooked." And you are trying to support you argument!!

And your sources!!!Some of you supposed 336 sources leave a lot of room for poor reliability. Phone conversations, e-mails, unpublished reports. Those supposed reasources cold have been severly changed to support your argument or twisted in some way or never have existed in the first place. Then those unpublished reports, there may be very good reasons why they were not published. HOW IS ANYONE GOING TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND ACCURACY OF WHAT WAS SUPPOSIDLY SAID IN THESE SOURSES FOR YOUR BOOK????So now you go and do some real research and find some real facts! Prove me wrong! AND WHILE YOU ARE AT IT, GIVE SOME REAL SUPPORT FOR THE FACTS ON YOUR HOME PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE ARE THE REAL FACTS????????????????????

--Wayne
a dairy farmer

P.S. I can take insults, but I do not take kindly to threats!

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insert comments after this --> Dear Wayne,

Your letters are getting better! For a young man, still in school, I am impressed by your passion... but not by your logic.

You raise four major points or questions in your letter. I will address each one.

1) Where are your sources?
2) Grain is what actually makes people fat.
3) The NIXON quote.
4) Million/billion issue.

POINT #1

Sources: I invite any reader to judge Wayne, or the NOTMILKMAN, by the quality of the sources listed at the reference ICON (second from the left, just under the image of my book).

There you will find all 336 references contained in "MILK- The Deadly Poison." As you scroll down the list please judge whether or not the overwhelming majority of my notes are of the "he said/she said" variety or from peer-reviewed scientific journals. I will admit that a few of the notes refer to "unpublished reports." MONSANTO submitted these reports to the FDA for the approval of their genetically engineered hormone now used on cows. FDA and MONSANTO refuse to release data from these reports which indicate that laboratory animals got sick and suffered unusual effects from the same hormone that is now in America's milk and cheese. A good part of my book refers to one of these unpublished reports, written by Richard, Odaglia and Deslex. I challenge MONSANTO and FDA to release the raw data from 360 lab animals containing weights of 32 different tissues and organs so that America can see the TRUTH about this dangerous new poison.
If I am wrong, my webpage will come down and collapse like a pile of bricks and I will withdraw every copy of my book from America's bookstores.
Phone calls and letters are necessary parts of any referenced work. In order to document my story I have included a few (less than three percent) references and notes of this type.

One example is reference #335. This is a letter written to me by a man who won the NOBEL PRIZE in Medicine in 1976.

POINT #2

You have an interesting theory! Grains make America overweight! I like that. Perhaps there is a book in store for you, Wayne. It must be true, because your dad told you that "grain is used to fatten cattle."

Er, Wayne... maybe it's the water. Don't those same cattle drink water? Hmm... overweight Americans drink water too!

I can see how easily flawed my argument is. After all, thirty-nine percent of the AVERAGE American's diet consists of milk and dairy products which are loaded with fat and cholesterol. This year, the AVERAGE American from milk and dairy products will consume the same cholesterol contained in 19,000 slices of bacon. Add to that, the most powerful growth hormone, IGF-I, which sends a signal to all cells to GROW, GROW, GROW!!!!

Well... it's either the grain or the ice cream and cream cheese!

POINT #3

Richard Nixon was caught on tape (March 23, 1971) receiving a $2 million dollar bribe by members of your industry. Nixon was aware that the tape was running as he carefully selected his words:

"Uh, I know... that, uh, you are a group that are politically very conscious... And you're willing to do something about it. And, I must say a lot of businessmen and others... don't do anything aout it. And you do, and I appreciate that. And, I don't have to spell it out."

A few month later America was treated to a billion dollars worth of price increases for milk. That turned out to be a great investment for those dairymen. For every hundred pounds of milk you produce, you must pay the milk National Fluid Milk Processors fifteen cents. That adds up to a lot of money... hundreds of millions of dollars every year... billions and billions of dollars since Nixon ("I am not a crook") left the White House.

POINT #4

The million/billion ANTIBIOTIC issue.

I will admit that my evidence is weak. After all, I only published a confidential letter from a group of FDA employees complaining about an arbitrary increase of levels of antibiotics in milk (100X from one part per hundred-million to one part per million). That letter was circulated to Congress and resulted in a major investigation.

That investigation was referred to by the National Institutes of Health and the World Health Organization and a special report generated by the Executive Branch in February of 1994.

The New York Times wrote about that investigation. So did the Washington Post and Consumers Report and the Wall Street Journal.

Yes, Wayne, my references are limited. Perhaps you should obtain a copy of my book. I admit that the NOTMILK website contains less than one-percent of what is in my book. Perhaps you will dedicate yourself to learning about all of the dangerous substances in milk and find a way to make a better product. After removing the powerful growth hormones and the allergenic bovine proteins and the fat and cholesterol and the virus, pus and bacteria... you'll have something that my children can drink!

I know... we'll call it water!!!

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Brittany Ramis
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: California
Time: 1998-04-17 04:22:13
Comments: it's the truth!

Name: melanie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Quebec, Canada
Time: 1998-04-17 02:49:09
Comments: I'm an Agriculture tech. in Quebec, Canada and I can honestly say that Monsanto is scaring the hell out of us. Being a dairy farmer myself I cannot understand why people would want to use this product. The animals certainly won't benefit and neither will the consumers. Please continue making as much noise as you can because the majority of farmers in Quebec don't want it to be legal. I won't debate the milk issue with you, but I will agree that we don't want it to be contaminated. Keep up the good work and pull the rug out from under them.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Melanie,

Dairymen and dairywomen are among the hardest working people I know. Seven days per week... long hours, few vacations. All for very little pay. MONSANTO has America's farmers conned. By using POSILAC (trade name for the genetically engineered hormone) the farmer must prepare the hypodermic syringe, inject the animals, closely monitor those animals, (possibly) treat the animals with increased levels of antibiotics because rbST-treated animals have historically experienced increased levels of mastitis, he must feed the animals more and shovel away more of their excrement. He then must properly dispose of those hypodermic syringes and properly store and ship the red MONSANTO biohazard container back to the pharmaceutical company.

All of this, for what? For an extra thirty-six cents per day per animal of increased profits? In his twelve hour day that works out to three cents per hour per animal. If he has one hundred animals he will earn $36 dollars more for many hours more labor. Do the extra hours of labor and 36 cents per animal compensate for the lost quality time with his/her family?

There has got to be a better way!

For MONSANTO, this all makes a lot of cents/sense!

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: John-Andrew
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-04-16 23:50:31
Comments: My response: I did a little research since I wrote my message, and your arguments are inconclusive. To say I've been brainwashed is rather presumptuous, don't you think? Yes, your beer belly reference was out of line. In fact, it was very much so. To say that you don't advocate the consumption of alcohol, and yet use an analogy that sheds even a shred of positive light on something so damaging is irresponsible. What I've found in my reading from JAMA, Science, and various other publications found online through The Expanded Academic Index, was that your arguments are still being debated in the scientific community, and that there is -- as of now -- inconclusive data to support your findings. BHA has so far yielded no adverse affects in studies done in England, and Australia. Both countries conducted their research independently, and not with dairy industry coercion. Furthermore, the use of antibiotics is still under debate. Allergies are caused by myriad pollutants, and toxins in our environment, not just milk. I'm allergic to dust mites, really strong doses of chili powder, and camel hair. Milk didn't cause my allergies. And I wasn't duped by advertising. I rarely pay much attention to ads of any sort. Sorry, you can't read my mind, so please don't try. My mother raised me to drink milk. Likewise, my mother-in-law, a nurse, raised her family to drink milk. Now, to answer your question about me being a zealot: I don't claim to have all the answers. You do, and you're rather forceful to those who disagree with you, twising what people say to use against them. That's not only zealotry, that's militancy. And it won't win you friends. Be happy that some of the people you reach are willing to do as I did, and read further on the subject. And I will keep my eyes open. I know the dairy industry isn't impeccable. No industry is. However, I do know that milk works for my wife and me. Your message is probably valid. I only really question your delivery. Using suspect analogies, and brandishing conspiracy theories to go with your credentials don't wash in this country. Right now you're on one side of the fence, and those on the other side are not all carnivorous, dairy industry sycophants and indoctrinees. Some of us simply like a tall glass of milk to go with our cake; a hot-fudge sundae once in a while; and milk on our cereal/oatmeal. We do it because our mothers taught us to, not because of the damned dairy industry. Oh, BTW, the milk used in our house comes from a local, organic farm and dairy. You'd be surprised at how many people out there are doing so.

Name: John-Andrew
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-04-16 21:08:47
Comments: This site is a little more than disturbing, and for a variety of reasons. After finding the book on the shelves of the library in which I work, I decided to take a peek at the website. I'm not impressed. As an athlete, I understand the importance of nutrition. Milk, and dairy products are essential (don't even try to argue that one, though you will because I sense more than a twinge of zealotry on your part) to provide calcium, protein, and various other nutrients my body needs. Now, as far as milk contributing to the national bulge, and letting beer off the hook: Neither beer NOR milk cause America's bloating. Have you paid any attention at all to the national health debate? Fast food accounts for forty percent of the food consumed by kids 16 and under, Soda is the number one selling product in our grocery stores; Americans have a fast-paced lifestyle that forsakes exercise for work; those who don't exercise on weekends, spend their time in front of the television; we drive everywhere, not walk like Europeans and Asians; and we eat too many food loaded with sodium, and "white death" or sugar. Perhaps a more thoughtful approach, and evenhanded approach to your argument is to go after Monsanto rather than milk itself. Oh, Skim Milk has ZERO calories, and only 60 calories per serving. Even here in Indiana, one of the most obese states in our nation, Skim Milk outsells Whole and 2% Milk in our supermarket. You can go ahead and spew your invectives, but while you do, remember that somewhere in this world someone is crying for the product you admonish. And everyday a woman is beaten by a husband whose had one too many beers; our youth grows fatter because of McDonald's Beef grown in the diminishing Amazon, an unwitting participant in Global Warming; a teen-ager will be killed by a drunk driver returning home from a bar. In the larger perspective, milk isn't so bad. On a personal note: My grandmother lived to be 98, drinking four glasses of whole mile a day, never breaking a bone, or developing breast cancer. My other grandmother does the same. She's 95. Your arguments are going to have to be presented less miltantly for people to listen, regardless of how sound they might be. The beer comparison was really ill chosen. And the fat thing? As a former professional athlete, I'm not going to touch it. That's a ball game I don't think you're even close to winning.

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insert comments after this --> Dear John-Andrew,

You warn me not to argue your point, "Milk and dairy products are essential to provide calcium, protein and other nutrients..." You call me a zealot? What does that make you? You have been bombarded with the dairy-sponsored milk message from the moment you entered school, through milkstache ads in Sports Illustrated (see the 11 ads in the January issue) and you have become the product of magnificent brainwashing.

Subliminal and not-so subliminal ads have, over the course of your lifetime, influenced you so much that you have lost the ability to think for yourself. How could the consumption of milk from another species of animal possibly be part of Mother Nature's plan?

You are an athlete? How do racehorses grow to have such stong bones and beautifully defined muscles? Why do dairy farmers feed their baby cows soy milk? These calves grow up to become strong-boned cows... should we not learn by their example?

You were a professional athlete? Ninety percent of African Americans are lactose intolerant. Does your good advice exclude these athletes or should they be taking the antidote (lactaid) before ingesting the poison?

My beer belly anecdote was used to illustrate the bum rap that should appropriately be placed upon dairy products. I am not an advocate of beer drinking or alcohol consumption. However, the average American eats much more fat and cholesterol from consuming dairy products and such bellies on overweight Americans should be appropriately labeled milk bellies.

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Name: Kim Spallone
Website:
Referred by: From LinkExchange
From: Illinois
Time: 1998-04-16 14:24:16
Comments: Thank you for the info. Helping 14 yr old daughter write a persuasive essay. She knew this was up my alley. It is very comphrehensive and she will easily understand. Thx

Name: Kevin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wis
Time: 1998-04-16 03:46:28
Comments: You have pointed the out chemicals in milk. Well what about chemicals on vegetable and fruits. If they don't use chemical on fruits, bugs will infest the fruit. Even though the goverment says in is safe, but is it really? As far as I know you can't just wash it off. You are eating Poison too, so I guess you will die with us,Bob. I will be saving a glass a milk for you, when you are proven wrong. Hey it could happen.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Kevin,

Millions of Americans share a summer-time passion for home grown tomatoes. Can you find one person in all of these United States of America who prefers the supermarket chemical product to the organically grown variety? Any fruit or vegetable you mention --- from apples to zucchini, tastes better and is healthier than the one with chemicals.

The practical reality is that 260 million Americans have to be fed each day. Farmers do the best they can in producing our food. Pesticides are an unhappy fact of life. I wish that there was a better way.

To equate the hormones injected into dairy cows with insecticides is an unfair comparison. We approved the recombinant bovine growth hormone one year after our government purchased back nine billion pounds of surplus milk. Did we really need more milk? Those insecticides that have been proven to cause cancer, like DDT, have been taken off of the market. The genetically engineered bovine growth hormone also caused cancer in laboratory animals. Why was this poison approved for our milk? The manufacturer of this poison, MONSANTO, sent their top scientists, Sechen and Miller to high level jobs at FDA where they reviewed their own research. MONSANTO also sent their attorney, Michael Taylor to FDA where he was hired as the second in command to the Commissioner.

A dairy farmer makes only thirty-six cents each day per cow by using this new poison. I want that farmer to know how unhappy Americans are about his choice. Twenty-five percent of the herds in America have cows being treated with this chemical. Five thousand new farms will be using this hormone in 1998. MONSANTO is sure to benefit.

At who's expense, Kevin?

Regarding that glass of milk you are saving for me... The FDA allows 700 million pus cells per quart of milk which means that an eight ounce glass of milk can contain 175 million pus cells. Although that pustache would look beautiful on my face... like it does on "Calcium Ripkin's," I'm going to pass on your offer. Please be warned... the bacterial count in that glass will DOUBLE every 20 minutes so refrigerate it quickly! Better yet... dump it!

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-16 03:00:31
Comments: You words may not be reproduced or quoted in any way shape or form without my permission. (That is so you do not misquote me like you misquoted the word of God!!!)

you say:
"Milk is the reason that one out of six American women will develop cancer of the breast."
the truth:
Milk from animals treated with rBGH or rBST has been suspected to contribute to causing breast cancer in women.

And as for your argument, Bob, it is really sad sad that the only way you can defend yourself against some people is pointing out the fact that they choose not to leave their e-mail address.

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I've re-read your letter a couple of times and am still having difficulty following your argument. I hope that they let you use a plastic spoon with your food... sharp tools might be a mistake.

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Withheld on request
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-04-15 22:06:32
Comments: Had to respond to the dairymen who claim that testing eliminates antibiotics from milk. You may post this message but PLEASE withold my contact info (whistle blowing has no reward). Farmers are not required to test for antibiotics. Only bulk tank producers test before adding milk to the huge silos. They are required to test each truckload for a tiny handful of antibiotics (the five or six target antibiotics that are deemed most used by farmers). When a farmer has his truckload rejected, what does he do? He switches antibiotics to one which is not on the list. It will be added to the list by the FDA, when they feel it has become a problem. Initially, farmers only had to screen for Penicillin. Later amoxacillin, ceftiofur and others were added. The milkman is playing a constant game of hide and seek with your milk, and you're losing! Now let's discuss "safe levels". these are like radiation acceptable doses...constantly changing as you've noted. But what you should research is the tests that are used to detect these levels. FDA requires tests to be certified that they do indeed detect these antibiotics. Recently, FDA evaluated several tests from several manufacturers. Tests were required to correctly capture tainted milk from several samples. Only one manufacturer's tests passed on the first round. So the FDA, reluctant to grant a virtual monopoly to the company, loosened the specs and allowed a second round with a few "mistakes". Some companies failed this round, too. So THEY LOOSENED THE SPEC AGAIN to allow dairy producers to use less sensitive tests and pass more milk into the food chain. By regulation, this dose response and sensitivity info is posted on the tests instructions. Remember, these loosened tests are only looking for the target antibiotics. Who knows what levels of non-target or even illegal antibiotics are in there? And with hundreds of thousands of dollars at stake, milk producers are looking for any excuse to accept the milk...rather than rejecting it at the slightest hint of contamination. Ready for another shocker. Sometimes they dump contaminated milk. Sometimes they FEED IT TO THE OTHER COWS! Then they wonder why the cows no longer respond to the drug to clean up mastitis. This info could get me fired, but you seem to be the only one willing to publicize the truth about overuse of antibiotics in the food chain. Growth hormones will not kill us. We'll be long dead from some resistant "superbug" before the cancer sets in.

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insert comments after this --> WOW!   What a letter!

I know what you know and so do the milk inspectors and so do the regulators at USDA and FDA. The secrets of the dairy industry are now being revealed to the world. MONSANTO genetically engineered the bovine growth hormone and in doing so opened up an enormous Pandora's box that can never again be closed.

I was going to ask you whether or not you drink the milk which you produce. I think that I know the answer.

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Name: Steve Hindle
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Co. Springs, CO
Time: 1998-04-15 10:12:02
Comments: I just heard you guys on KILO radio this morning. I dont think I'll be drinking milk too much longer. Thanks for the informative info.

Name: Rainbow
Website: Rainbow's Haven
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Colorado
Time: 1998-04-15 05:11:06
Comments: Heard your interview on KILO 94.3 FM out here in Colorado Springs This morning. I e-mailed you about checking Chuck Harder's For The People Radio program. A qoute from Mr. Harder, "Fix America First" Two thumbs up Sir. NO MILK, NO MILK,

Name: R. Payne
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Kansas
Time: 1998-04-15 04:39:09
Comments: I found your web page to be very interesting. I have had my doubts about drinking milk for some time now, and now I am convinced it is not good to drink. Keep up the good work.

Name: Wayne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: WI
Time: 1998-04-15 04:28:28
Comments: what motavates you to tell so many lies??!!

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insert comments after this --> Dear Wayne,

What motivates me is the search for TRUTH. Some who criticize my "lies" refuse to cite examples. I receive many such comments from people like you... lacking return EMAIL addresses.

Please write again, and next time, please give me just one example in the thousands of things I have written about that you believe to be a lie!

End comments --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: MaryEllen Mathieu
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From:
Time: 1998-04-15 04:00:29
Comments: I was driving home from a snowboarding trip on Easter 98', listening to a radio show somewhere in So. CA. They were interviewing Robert Cohen, on the adverse affects of drinking milk. I can remember as a child my peers always insisting that I drink my milk and eat my meats, as I secretly was disgusted by the whole ordeal. Although I didn't understand that my intuitiveness was virtually leading me into the right direction, I knew that I didn't like milk or meat and it never felt very appealing when it was in my body! After listening to Robert Cohen's interview it became very apparent that what I was sensing as a child was correct!!!! That is how I came too find this very informative site. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and education with the rest of the world. I'd have to agree that the best advice that Mr. Cohen gave is to educate yourselves and listen too YOUR BODY!

Name: alan watts
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: atlanta ga
Time: 1998-04-14 22:48:18
Comments: Well done and informative web site. Thanks for getting the truth out.

Name: Grayson McNeill
Website: My homepage is unrelated to these comments..
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: California
Time: 1998-04-14 12:57:52
Comments: I heard the author on a radio show in LA.. I don't know Bob. I think your commercializing and sensationalizing of this issue tends to reduce the importance and credibility of the BGH issue. I am glad you are getting awareness up though. I urge everyone concerned about this issue to go to the following website: http://www.foxbghsuit.com/ Here is a copy of a fax I set to FOX news and its sponsors: [begin FAX] After reading about the situation at http://www.foxbghsuit.com/ I have to say that FOX news has now lost all credibility for me. I am angry. The reason is that I can see no reason why the story should not have been told as the reporters wanted to cover it. What IS the reason? From: An ANTI FOX news viewer! [end FAX]....... I urge everyone reading this to take the time and do the same.. Also, out here in California, I can buy milk that is labeled "this milk contains no BGH".. I wish everyone were so lucky.. Keep up the fight.... To all the responsible diary folks out there, "I support you! Please treat your cows well, don't feed them hormones. I would rather pay more for milk I know is rBGH free! Urge other people in your industry to not use rBGH.. If no dairy farmers used rBGH then there would be no economic advantage/disadvantage..." ........... I just want to drink safe milk!!!!

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insert comments after this --> Dear Grayson,

I was recently invited to participate in a debate with a nutritionist at Channel 44 In Atlanta. I drove 17 hours and arrived at the FOX affiliate. The show was taped.

I just learned that they will not AIR the segment because it was more explicitely biased than the Rodney King tape. There is nobody in America who is willing to debate me. There have been dairymen and scientists visiting this list and HARD COPY recently filmed a segment with me in which no representative of the dairy industry, FDA or Monsanto would appear on camera.

I spoke with the producer at FOX and offered to come down again for another debate or just an interview. My offer was declined because (I was told) "It's too political."

Sensationalist? The milk that you drink contains BGH. If they tell you that it does not, they are lying. All milk contains the Bovine Growth Hormone. Milk from cows treated with Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone (rBGH) contains increased levels of these same naturally occurring hormones.

HORMONES, HORMONES and more HORMONES! That is what you drink in your "ORGANIC WHOLESOME MILK."

Today herds representing 25% of the cows in America are using Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. Every week 100 additional dairy producers (Hoard's Dairyman, April 10, 1998, page 318) join the ranks of those who have made the choice to poison Americans. For what? For an additional profit of less than 36 cents per day per animal.

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Name: Ken
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: So Cal
Time: 1998-04-14 03:01:05
Comments: A friend told me about your web page and today I checked it out. I have been concerned about what's in milk for some time and believe much of what you say is true. However, I would like to see some altternatives that are not so high in fat or carbohydrates as the ones you propose. In addition, it would be nice to see some alternatives that I could "realistically" offer my children. Non-fat milk is a good source of protein. I'm not really interested in your thoughts on how much protein is necessary in the diet, just some good, low fat alternatives.Great web page, keep it up, knowledge hurts no one.Ken

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insert comments after this --> Dear Ken,

Our family has a favorite drink...no fat, no cholesterol and you cannot beat the price: WATER! We fill gallon jugs right from the tap and allow the chlorine one day to evaporate.

If you want a low-fat alternative for your cereal try our favorite budget saver. When we have rice for dinner we always have fresh rice milk the following day on cereal.

Here's the recipe.

  • Bring ten cups of water to a boil.
  • Start with two cups of rice.
  • Add the rice and boil for 12-14 minutes.
  • If you are using brown rice cook for 20-22 minutes and add one extra cup of water. (The cooking time is about 1/2 that of the normal steaming method.)

  • Strain the rice when it is al dente and serve immediately.

You should have approximately one quart of liquid remaining. Add to that liquid one teaspoon of vanilla and enough sweetener to taste. For a low calorie rice milk use stevia. For a tasty treat, add honey. For a rich calcium drink add molasses.


I figure that the calories in this drink are "free" because you would have eaten them the night before in your steamed rice. Do you like my way of counting calories?

Bon apetit!

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Name: Todd Andrew Miller
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-04-13 10:49:15
Comments: Friends refer to the miles of dairy cows behind the barbed-wire fences along I-5 in central California as "Cowschwitz." It is both apt and disturbing. Like your site! (mixed meaning intended)

Name: Dave Shishkoff
Website:
From: Victoria, BC
Time: 1998-04-12 22:23:17
Comments: Hello Robert! I am really impressed and inspired with how you've been managing this guestbook! A most wonderful job! Please keep it up! Now just a quick word on "why we should stop consuming milk/meat rather than focus on feeding the starving". Well, the two go hand in hand, and countless amounts of evidence show that meat and milk production consume more space and energy, and create more pollution and waste than most other industries, and by *not* consuming them, we *ARE* making a significant difference. If you took all the grain, corn, soy and water that is used in livestock production, and although much of it may not be suitable for human consumption, the portion that *is* would potentially take an incredibly *massive* chunk out of world hunger, if you could get it to needy people instead of non-human animals. So, in essence, by not eating meat, nor consuming milk, one has the most effective means of ending world hunger, as well as solving many of our environmental and social problems. (I, along with many others, believe that the way we treat animals coincides directly with how we treat our fellow (wo)man. Look up "slavery" for a better definition.) Great work Robert!!! Don't stop until it's over!

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insert comments after this --> Dear Dave,

There is great wisdom in your letter.

I have been reading a book, "Judiasm and Vegetarianism" written by Richard Schwartz, Ph.D.

From page 71:

ECOLOGICAL PROBLEMS RELATED TO CURRENT LIVESTOCK AGRICULTURE

1) It takes 16 pounds of grain and soybeans to produce one pound of beef on our plates.

2) 70% of the grain grown in the US is fed to animals.

3) The average American diet requires 3 1/2 acres per person while the average vegetarian (vegan) diet requires 1/5 of an acre.

4) The average American diet requires 4,200 gallons of water per day (animal's drinking water, irrigation, etc.) while a vegan requires 300 gallons per day.

5) Production of one pound of steak requires 20,000 calories of fossil fuel. Grains and beans require only 400-1,000 calories.

6) American livestock produce 2 billion pounds of waste per year. Mountains of manure wash into and pollute our streams, rivers and underground waterways.

7) The huge amounts of grain grown to feed the livestock require increasing amounts of pesticides. Although DDT has been banned, our use of carcinogens such as malathion, toxaphene and captan is increasing.

Richard Schwartz writes:

"God's initial intention was that people should be vegetarians."

He cites Genesis. 1:29:

And God said: "Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed-to you it shall be for food."

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Name: alex
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: ventura
Time: 1998-04-12 06:39:13
Comments: I decided to try to possibly go without dairy products for your suggested 5 days, but on the sixth day instead of reaching for the milk I decided not to, i didn't even miss it. But last night my friends and I went out for pizza, I didn't what to be a troble so I just took the cheese off. After eating two pieces(minus the cheese)I started to feel sick to my stomach. Then the next morning I woke up with a migrain. Could this be related to the pizza? Even though I removed the cheese can the oils still get me??? Thanks

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Pizza with friends sounds like fun to me! I recall many such episodes...and waking up the next day with a pounding headache...could it have been the beer? If this not the cause of your head-pounding, I would need more information to find a possible food-related link to your migraine. Do you get them often? Did you drink soda containing phenylalanine, formaldehyde or diketopiperazine? These are breakdown products of ASPARTAME/NutraSweet, the artificial sweetener.

The glutamine in MSG and phenylalanine in ASPARTAME work in much the same way to induce such migraines. FDA's files are filled with these types of complaints from thousands of consumers.

I would suggest that read labels carefully. If you see "modified food starch" you are actually eating MSG. Products such as WINTERFRESH GUM list sugar as the major ingredient and ASPARTAME as a minor ingredient. Why does the majnufacturer do that, I wonder? Aspartame is also put into kids TYLENOL and FLINTSTONE vitamins.

You must take back your health from agencies like the FDA and USDA. They have betrayed us. Read the list of ingredients in non-dairy creamers, for example. The front of the container proudly says, NON-DAIRY. The back often reveals: "Casein-derived from milk products."

For more information on aspartame read Dave Rietz's comments below this post.

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WEBMASTER's note:

Diet Coke has a new (expensive) ad campaign that proclaims "You are what you drink!"

Perhaps you were.... and that was sick.

Perhaps the phrase that best applies is that "ASPARTAME is a Pandora's box of chameleon-like toxins and tumor agents that have 92 FDA acknowledged ways to ruin your life, death being one of them".


DAVE RIETZ - WEBMASTER and VICTIM!



Name: Pam
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: WI
Time: 1998-04-11 23:52:55
Comments: My words may not be reprinted, or quoted for any other purpose, or used in any way inany media, than for my personal expression of my opinion on this guest list, without myexpress, specific, and written permission.OK Bob, I thought I’d give you one last chance to prove me wrong, but you swung and missed. You do truly avoid the questions you don’t like or can not answer -don’t you? (yes or nowould do nicely) I see you play to a certain crowd, and that seems to be the vegetarianset. They seem to come charging to your defense - calling us “the ignorant masses” andother such names. They say the dairy industry people attack you, and it may be that somehave done that. I haven’t seen much of that lately, and I daresay my questions andcomments to you could hardly be considered such. However - you and more than a fewof your “followers” have attacked our livelihood and have even suggested that you wouldlike to remove our right to choose to drink cow milk, by launching (however small) anassault to destroy the image and the very essence of our industry. How does our existenceharm you? In fact, we (along with the rest of the cattle industry) play a rather large role inthe availability of the other healthy, nutritious foods you and your vegan friends enjoysuch easy and cheap access to. If you like organic, you’re even more dependent on the factthat cattle men and women are out there contributing to the food supply. If you don’t likemilk, for whatever reasons - don’t drink it.Now, I will begin, as I try to teach you how an exchange with the purpose of learningbehind it should go, by answering your questions.You asked<>It is not available to me or most other people, nor would it be considered sociallyacceptable. I didn’t set up this society, but I live within its, and my own moral structure. Cannibalism is accepted in some societies, as well as among some animal species, just assome adults - human and animal - do indeed drink mother’s milk into adulthood. Bovineswill continue to drink indefinitely, if allowed to do so. Did you ever read The Grapes ofWrath? Is that good or bad? I don’t know, but I won’t attempt to change the fabric ofone society to fit my own personal needs.Why don’t you live off the land, hunting and gathering the things you need to survive,doing as little damage to nature as possible? Or was the “architect of your plan” a realestate developer, who thought it best for you to powder wheat and rice and soybeans intoa meal so fine that you could not possibly replant the seeds of these plants the way thatnature intended? <>No, I have not. I have seen milk from cows with mastitis, but never milk with pus in it. Iam not aware that “lesions or ulcers” are present whe mastitis occurs, either. I have neverseen teat ulcers.<>If a teat has feces on it, and is not properly cleaned, I will grant you that it would bepossible for a small amount of feces to get into the tank. Teats on most farms are properlycleaned, as the quality (bacteria and SSC) of the milk is directly related to the amount ofmoney paid for the milk .I have never seen feces in milk. Our filter is not covered withfeces or anything else when we are done milking. If feces were to get into milk, theamount would be minuscule and the filtering and the pasteurization process wouldeliminate that as a concern.By the same token, in saying it might be possible for feces tocome into contact with milk, I will guarantee you that any other food you eat, or anywater that you drink, has come into contact with feces of some kind, in addition to a bevyof chemicals and other undesirables. The FDA makes tolerable allowances of amounts ofthese things in the very foods you uphold as so much more pure than milk, when in fact,milk is held to a much higher standard than almost all other foods, by virtue of its ownperishability. What “drips into the milk?” Well, I won’t get into an anatomy lesson with you, but theanus of a cow and the teat are not in the same place, nor do they serve the same function. You stated:<>Get real Bob. If you are so worried about fecal matter, bacteria, salmonella, dirt, pus, orany of the other nasty things you claim to be, you better just quit eating and drinkingeverything. Do you know how much rodent and fecal matter is considered allowable inyour grains and cereals, which are used to make your bread and “tasty healthy” soy andrice milk? Check it out. Insect parts are thrown in for free too, along with the pesticidesfrom which they might have died. Do you know how much artery clogging fat is in soybeans? Corn fed hogs get mighty fat -ain’t that the truth? No fecal matter near your steak or broccoli? Maybe not on your steak if you butchered ityour self and were very careful. Then, you also conveniently “forgot” about the horrors of bovine leukemia virus, and the antibiotic residues. If it is tearing your heart apart to thinkof children dying of cancer, and you are linking this to milk - then what about that meat?Forget about the fecal matter - it must be loaded with cancer cells, and antibiotics! Tellme where the data is on Hulse’s information that says 60% of cattle have bovine leukemiavirus. There is none, because cattle are not routinely tested for this, nor have cattle beentested in any widespread or remotely scientific study. They missed a large portion of thepopulation - what group was tested - a few cattle who may have died of this disease? Very very scientific! How many parts per BILLION antibiotic residue is allowed in milk? Come now Bob - There’s a bigger difference between million and BILLION than the “b”and the “m.”Cancer is a horrible thing, and yes any cancer for child or adult is too much - but don’t laythis at dairy and beef’s door. Have you ever considered how much you could accomplishif you turned your efforts toward eliminating world hunger? Now there’s a cause I couldgo “anti” on - anti- hunger. How much do you really care about the children of thisworld? By your actions, I don’t think you have to answer that one. How about donatingsome of your profits and efforts to eliminating suffering for billions of children who diefrom the social disease of starvation? How about that instead trying to destroy the imageof a group who work so hard to do just that - and for the same price they were getting 20years ago, I might add. How did your broccoli grow so nice and tasty? Lots of fecal matter applied to it, or lotsof high powered chemicals - you take your pick. Wash it off good with water you say. Yeah - no fecal matter ever touched that water. Face it Bob - your up to your neck infecal matter, and /or chemicals. Why are you picking on milk? Oh yes - the hormone thing. They (hormones) are notbroken down in the stomach and they move out of the stomach intact. You commentedon that in your book. You said that is why milk is such a powerful growth promoter forinfants, and you are correct. It is. Then the infant matures, as does his digestive system. Hmmm, do those hormones continue to be absorbed through the digestive system or afterthe system matures, do they pass, unused and un-needed out of the body - while thenutrients that are needed remain and contribute their part to natures’ plan? You never didaddress the issue of the mature digestive system compared to the infants’ did you? (yes orno)Face it Bob - you’re losing ground here.My questions for you, unless you are afraid to answer, or have no answers (either shouldexpose you to readers for exactly what you are - a purveyor of twisted logic andmisrepresented and interpreted facts.):Who are your corporate and individual sponsors?Where did Hulse collect his data on bovine leukemia - how many cattle have been tested,and from what areas of the country?Why did you not complete your training at any institution of higher education? I ask thisnot because I feel a degree is needed to make you credible, but rather the ability to followsomething through to completion. You could not complete your training in the areawhere you claim to have “expertise,” but you would have us believe you were able tofollow through and appropriately research the validity of all of the “studies” you documentin your book? Why should anyone believe this?Why, if milk truly is the poison you say it is, do you feel the need to skew data and datainterpretation?(5000 Indians don’t drink milk and don’t get cancer so it follows that milkcauses cancer? Come on Bob - even a 6th grade scientist know better than that! Or howabout the countries where women have low consumption of milk and low rates of breastcancer. You link the two as cause and effect, but neglect to mention a lot of othermitigating factors which would much better explain why these women never live longenough to develop breast cancer - early death due to malnutrition being one of them.) Why do you show your hate by attacking dairy when there are many more things, whichhave been PROVEN harmful, to eliminate, if you are truly concerned about easingsuffering - particularly in children?I could go on and on, but if you could just start with these - some honest answers, please.Is the dairy industry afraid of you? I doubt it. However as part of it, I do not care to haveanyone passing out misinformation about my industry - in an effort to harm it, whileattempting to profit from their own brand of lies and misrepresentations of the truth. I tooam an author. However, I accurately place my books in the fiction category, which yoursmight more appropriately fit.We are in a position to take care of ourselves, walking more closely with nature and itsperfect plan than you will ever imagine. How closely do you live with the plan “the greatarchitect” created? Do I fear that your words can harm me and all that I hold dear? Notlikely - all that we do here is done so that we might be self sustainable, strong and healthy.Can you harm yourself, and your followers? Tread carefully, as I learned long ago thateverytime you point a finger at someone else, three are pointing back at you. Agricultureencompasses our entire food supply, and dairy is an integral part of the industry and theprocess. You and your followers may attack this ship called dairy, and you may evengrow strong enough to blow a hole in her to send her on a journey toward the bottom ofthe ocean. If that day ever approaches, and you begin to slap each other on the back atyour great success, take a look around at the faces of those scanning the horizon anddon’t be surprised at the looks of horror, as you follow their gazes and see the slackleaving the rope, which ties your boat to the ship going down.Pam

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Whew! Where do I start?

Pam... Your invective diatribe includes threats and personal attacks. A kill the messager mentality. "Who supports you? Who is behind you? You do not care about the children. Tread carefully." What accusations! Do you imagine that this is the way to learn truth?

You ask me to answer your question and when I do, you respond with a rambling speech touching upon dozens of subjects. Your opening remarks are a warning that your words may not be reproduced. Frankly my dear, I cannot blame you for making that statement.

I have already answered your questions about bovine leukemia virus and submit Virgil Hulse's work as documentation. There are 238 references in Dr. Hulse's book, which can be obtained by calling Marble Mountain Publishing at 541-482-2048.

Hulse was a witness for the side that WON the Oprah trial. Like it or not, your industry makes people sick. Virus and bacteria from your animals are passed on to us in the foods we eat. The Center for Disease Control blamed 175 million cases of food-borne illness last year on those products coming from your farms. Instead of $200 million dollars of pustache commercials, how about cleaning up your act?

Virgil Hulse was a dairy inspector for 50 years. He relates in his book that all milk is contaminated with manure from cows udders that are not cleaned properly.

You mention that you have never seen pus or feces or anything on the filters you use. Read your letter. You just wrote that.

Er... Pam... Why then, do you use a filter?


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Name: Molly McMoo
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: somewhere
Time: 1998-04-11 21:43:00
Comments: Come on guys--I bet you go home and down a gallon of milk a night. This is the most pathetic web site I've visited in a while!

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(noneofyourbusiness@whocares.com with a location of "somewhere")

You would lose that bet.

Your NAME, EMAIL address and LOCATION are quite revealing.

Is this how you want to be regarded?

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Name: Jeffree Moline
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-04-10 23:15:35
Comments: Hey. I left a message several days ago and bounced back on to check out the site again. A really great site! I noticed that you are getting alot of flack from the pro-dairy folks. All I can say is...if they believe that dairy is so good, then eat it. If they think dairy is so good, why do they insist on vicious diatribes to support their (in my opinion unwinnable) position. They have huge industries and advertising agencies to support them. Why are they so scared of a small, private web site? There are many reasons I don't drink milk (one is it causes excess mucus in my body and less mucus is good). Yes, I will eat my greens and enjoy my ice cold glass of rice, soy or oat milk...so good, and good for me. Thank you for having the courage to do this page and deal with the ignorant masses of consumers that aren't ready for the message.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Jeffree,

I am amazed by the number of dairy farmers who have written privately to me confessing that they no longer drink milk because it "doesn't agree" with them.

All people react negatively to milk proteins. Some of us have the ability to pay attention to the body's clues and have linked milk consumption to a variety of problems...mucous production, hemoglobin loss, childhood diabetes, heart disease, athersclerosis, arthritis, kidney stones, mood swings, depression, irritibility and allergies.

The above list was published in the Townsend Letter for Doctors (active link), a medical newsletter for doctors written by doctors.

  • All humans produce 100 different antibodies to bovine proteins.
  • All humans drink powerful growth hormones in each sip of milk.
  • All humans eat Elmer's glue if they drink milk.
  • All humans eat large amounts of animal fat if they drink milk.
  • All humans eat dangerous cholesterol if they drink milk.
  • All humans eat pus if they drink milk.
  • All humans eat bacteria if they drink milk.
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Name: Pam
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-04-10 21:43:09
Comments: Hi Bob,I have just checked out your updated website. I have also just read your exchange with Brandi. I would like to tell you firstly, that I am a dairy farmer, as well as a teacher of young children. I do both because I am concerned about our future, and it is clear that these children are our future. I am "pro" a lot of things. I am would describe myself very rarely (if ever) as "anti" anything. Being "anti" is not a very productive way to lead one's life, nor to promote one's beliefs. It seems you stress "anti" in your push to demonstrate the "evils of dairy." I am pro healthy eating, and living. I look for the good, and avoid as much as possible that which I have determined undesirable. In this way, I feel I can live the healthiest life possible, and promote this to others, thus helping all to live in the most healthful way possible. Dairy products I consume help to provide this essential balance in my healthy lifestyle. I do not see how striving to wipe out one classification of food fits into this positive approach of helping myself and others. Possibly you could explain why you have chosen dairy to focus your "anti" campaign upon. You have stated that you do not "hate the meat industry" but if there is "evidence" of antibiotics and cancer and cancer causing conditions in cattle, would it not stand to reason that the meat of these animals would be equally harmful to consume, or possibly even more harmful, if we are to believe your " evidence?" Alcohol and smoking are big killers of children, and destroyers of life. So, my questions today are, why have you chosen to attack dairy with your negative, anti campaign? Do you have corporate, or other financial backing?? Would you care to share the names of your sponsors. Some of your supporters might be interested in this information. I do have more questions for you, but will save them for now. I believe you left a few unanswered from our last exchange. Perhaps you will get a chance to answer them?By the way, I have milked many cows, and have known many others who have milked far more than have I, and I have also seen cows with mastitis. I have never seen "pus" in milk - even mastitis milk. Do you use this term for a gross-out effect? Milk from cows with mastitis is dumped. Due to high SSC from this milk, it is not economcially prudent to mix this milk with other milk, for sale, aside from the fact that cows with mastitis are usually treated for the condition, and if the treatment of choice is antibiotics, milk is with-held from sale until there is no further residue present, as per the approved tests. Did you know that breast feeding humans also can develop mastitis. It is not all that unusual. Are there tiny breast fed babies out there with human "pus-staches?" Some of those women are on antibiotics as well. Hey, some are ingesting a lot of other stuff! Where's the bandwagon for the anti breastfeeding campaign? Pam

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I do not plan on beginning the anti-breast feeding campaign because milk IS nature's perfect food... MILK FROM THE MOTHER OF EACH SPECIES TO THE INFANT OF THAT SPECIFIC SPECIES. Human breast milk contains nature's perfect formula for babies. Why not include human breast milk in your daily balanced diet?

You have never seen pus in milk? Tell the truth, Pam. Have you seen feces in milk?

What exactly drips into the milk? You put a filter between the udder and holding tank...that filter fills with excrement. That's a gross-out, too, and it's as real as the 700 million cells of pus that FDA permits in every quart of milk.

There is no excrement or fecal mater in steak. None in bread and none in broccoli. How many Americans know about your little secrets? Gross out? You betcha!

Once the milk is filtered it still contains powerful growth hormones and proteins which cause allergic reactions. Those same proteins and hormones are contained in steak. The average American eats a total of three ounces per day of meat and chicken combined while ingesting more than ten times that amount of milk and dairy products.

The acidity (pH) of the stomach is very low...about a 1.8 and the steak is broken down into its basic building blocks, amino acids. The milk changes the acidity of the stomach by buffering the contents of the stomach from a 1.8 to a 6.0, so that the proteins survive digestion.

The architect of such a plan had great wisdom. He was certainly not employed as a scientist at Monsanto. This designer of all hormones decided to make the most powerful growth hormone in the human body, IGF-I, identical to bovine IGF-I. This hormone has been identified as the key factor in the growth of human cancers.
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Name: Brandi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: KY
Time: 1998-04-10 05:58:12
Comments: I am responding to your reply to my comment on April 8. I am going to be civil with this. I've read those comments from others who curse you and call you every name in the book. That gets them nowhere. Let me begin with the antibiotics. I can't speak for every Tom, Dick, and Harry Dairyman out there, but let me tell you this, Mr. Cohen. There are no antibiotic residues in our milk. We throw the milk away from a treated cow. There may be those out there who know nothing of the milking process. We individually test each cow's milk if she has been treated with antibiotics before we even think of putting her milk into the bulk tank. Then, on top of that, the milk truck driver pulls a sample from our tank, then pumps the milk from our tank onto his truck. He takes all those samples from each dairy and the laboratory runs tests on them. If my sample was to somehow show up as laced with antibiotics, the entire truckload of milk is driven back to my farm and dumped into our manure pit. We end up paying for the entire load. I've seen those t.v. shows where a carton of milk from the grocery was tested and showed antibiotics. I don't know how that happened. Why would a dairy farmer knowingly allow milk laced with antibiotics to flow into his bulk tank cooler? If anyone does that, then they must be pretty courageous and a little insane. Secondly you said that you didn't know why my professors were teaching us without using morals (or something to that effect.) Why are you dragging morals into this? I feel that if you mention the word "morals" everyone jumps on your side and it automatically discredits me. I choose to leave the morals out of my argument. You said that I failed to mention the specifics of the PA State University research that I used. I don't have access to the research, my professor does. (And by the way, the professor/veternarian is a female.) The document she found for me is the veterinary science information on bovine leukosis from the cooperative extension of PSU.You state that there is believed 60% of US cows infected with BLV. My documents say that there is no information available on the number of BLV infected cattle in the US.You then had to put children into this. Using children is a little bit like using the word "morals" as you did in your reply. When anyone out there sees you saying that you would not give unsafe products to your children, people automatically jump on your bandwagon. We don't want to harm the children. I agree, but don't pull all these little tricks to get people to rush to judge milk or me, a dairy farmer for that matter. I seriously don't know why I keep coming back to this website. It makes me so mad that I can't see straight. I just hate to see people who are naive of the subject, people who have never set foot on a farm, or never seen or touched a cow for that matter, turned off to milk because some educated person spits a few statements to them. I understand that you're entitled to your opinion as well as myself. But use your power to actually do something that is going to help this country be a better place. Getting everyone to stop drinking milk isn't going to change anything. Why not have a campaign against drinking and driving or try to get kids to never start smoking? Don't get me wrong, I know that you're a well educated man and probably very intelligent. I respect you for that. And I do admit that you are pretty courageous to give all this information to the public. But you've got to respect me, too. I'm not just some corn pone, Hee Haw, barefoot country bumpkin. To all of you out there who may join the "Anti-Dairy Coalition", give it up. You're never going to put me and other fellow dairy farmers out of business. It doesn't matter what you claim or how many allergies you had, etc. We're here to stay. So get used to it. While you're choking down your soy or rice milk and eating leafy green vegetables, I'll be kicked back eating a big ole ribeye and drinking a tall glass of milk. I might even have some ice cream for dessert!I'm sorry that this is so long. I've told myself that I'm not going to comment again. I don't know if I can do that or not.

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I believe you and respect the fact that your milk does not contain antibiotics. I also respect Consumer's Reports and The Wall Street Journal. Both independently tested milk in the New York metropolitan area and found 52 different antibiotic residues. Your milk is mixed with the milk from your neighbor's farms.

Something terrible happened in 1989. Monsanto began to test their new genetically engineered hormone on dairy herds and found that the tested cows were getting ulcers on their udders. Milk from these sick cows contained more pus and bacteria.

Monsanto's solution was to send their top dairy scientist, Margaret Miller, Ph.D, to work at the FDA. When a farmer has a sick cow he must treat her with antibiotics. For every sick cow with visible ulcers (mastitis) there are anywhere from 15 to 40 animals that also have internal ulcers not visible upon inspection. In a 1,000 cow herd that means if 10 cows were visibly sick there could be between 150 to 400 additional sick animals. The dairy farmer's solution was to treat the entire herd with drugs.

Monsanto's Miller was hired by FDA. Her first mission was to solve this problem. Her solution was simple. She increased the safe allowable levels of antibiotics permitted in milk from one part per hundred-million to one part per million. Because of Monsanto's dairy scientist-turned FDA bureaucrat farmers were allowed to increase antibiotics in milk by 100 times. Most milk is accepted because the limits were increased by 100 times!

In the meantime, the Center For Disease Control and every mother with a sick child knows that antibiotics no longer work. New strains of emerging diseases have developed immunities to these antibiotics. America overdoses on these wonder drugs every single day. Your milk and dairy products represent thirty-nine percent of what the average American eats.

On March 16, 1994, a letter signed "concerned CVM employees" was circulated to members of congress, GAO, David Kessler- Comissioner of FDA, the Inspector General of the United States, Richard Kusserow and Michael Hansen of Consumer's Union.

Here is part of the CHILLING letter. The entire letter can be found in my book, "MILK-THE DEADLY POISON", along with supporting documents!


"To whom it may concern,

We are a group of CVM/FDA employees who are very concerned about the FDA's recent decision not to label milk treated with BST. We are afraid to speak openly about the situation because of retribution from our director, Dr. Robert Livingston. Dr. Livingston openly harasses anyone who states an opinion in opposition to his.

The basis of our concern is that Dr. Margaret Miller, Dr. Livingston's assistant and, from all indications, extremely 'close friend,' wrote the FDA's opinion on why milk from BST-treated cows should not be labeled. However, before coming to FDA, Dr. Margaret Miller was working for the Monsanto company as a researcher on BST. At the time she wrote the FDA opinion on labeling, she was still publishing papers with Monsanto scientists on BST. It appears to us that this is a direct conflict of interest to have in any way Dr. Miller working on BST. As you know, if milk is labeled as being from BST-treated cows, consumers will not buy it and Monsanto stands to lose a great deal of money. Several of Dr. Miller's former colleagues would lose their jobs.

To add to this, Dr. Livingston had Dr. Miller write a policy on use of antimicrobials in milk. She picked an arbitrary and unscientifically unsupported number of 1 ppm as being the allowable amount of antimicrobrial in milk permitted without any consumer safety testing. This is for any antimicrobrial. A cow could be treated with several antibiotics and each one would be permitted to be in milk at a level of 1 ppm without additional consumer safety testing. Effects of the different antibiotics could be additive and this is not taken into account.

As you know, one big concern for BST is that it leads to increased antibiotic use."


The letter was signed, Concerned CVM (Center for Veterinary Medicine) Employees.

The truck driver tests the milk. It is well within the safe limits established by FDA. He happily drives away, unaware that the limits were arbitrarily increased by 100 times.

We drink the milk and eat the cheese, unaware that we now consume 100 times the previously safe limits. FDA continues to tell America that permissible antibiotics in milk are well within the safe limits. They omit the fact that they changed the limits.


Let the TRUTH be known!
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Name: kim
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: los angeles
Time: 1998-04-09 22:50:15
Comments: I've suspected this all along! Heard your spot on John & Ken in LA radio. Way to go. Keep up the good work. If it doesn't convince everyone, well then there will be plenty of soy milk and tofu cheese for the rest of us.

Name: Brandi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: KY
Time: 1998-04-09 09:31:03
Comments: I signed your guestbook on March 10. I did a little research, along with the help of my college professor who is also a veternarian, and I gave you those facts about the leukemia virus in cows and their milk. It's pretty funny to me how you never responded to my comment. I actually gave you straightforward facts from the University of Pennsylvania research, and you couldn't respond? What's the matter? You can't bend the truth, can you? For all of you out there worried about getting leukemia because you drink a glass of milk, there's no need whatsoever to worry. The leukemia virus is killed in the pasteurization process. It will never harm us--it's dead.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Brandi,

On March 10th you posted a private response which could not be read by the rest of the list. In your private letter you wrote that there are no antibiotic residues in milk. Is this what they teach you at the University? On March 31, 1993, Michael Hansen, Ph.D. testified (before Congress) that his watchdog agency (Consumers Union, publisher of Consumers Reports) tested milk and found the presence of 52 different antibiotic residues.

In your private letter you wrote: "Even if cows are infected with leukemia virus it never affects us." Is this the moral philosophy that professors are now instilling in their college students? Do you wish Americans to drink milk from animals with leukemia?

You write, "It's pretty funny to me." You taunt me, "What's the matter? You can't bend the truth?" You cite information from the University of Pennsylvania (without giving specifics) and ignore the section chief of Viral Oncology at that same University, Jorge F. Ferrer, MD, who wrote:

"Both NIH and USDA have continued to dismiss the potential public health significance of bovine leukemia virus."

Dr. Gibbons, a medical doctor and former editor of the Saturday Evening Post wrote a book called "Why The Navajo Indians Never Get Cancer." Gibbons wrote:

"I've watched 5,000 Indians for 17 years with not one case of breast cancer. There's something the Indians are doing right that whites aren't...they don't drink milk. It's not in their diet...cows often suffer from virus-caused cancer... virus are passed on to humans drinking milk."

Bovine leukemia virus was discovered in 1969.

In 1987 the FDA wrote a letter to Senator Mark Hatfield:

"The Food and Drug Administation has given this subject (bovine leukemia virus) much thought over the years...There remain many unanswered questions concerning its transmissibility, infectivity and pathogenicity in humans."

Today it is believed that 60 percent of all cows in America have bovine leuikemia virus. (Page 149, "Mad Cows and Milkgate.")

In April of 1995 Chicago was "treated" to a very bad mistake. One day's supply of milk was incorrectly pasteurized and a violent salmonella outbreak occurred. One hundred and eighty thousand people became ill and four people died. Does it matter that 60 percent of the cows in America have leukemia? Does it not bother you that the milk is mixed from these cows into America's milk and cheese so that most Americans drink body fluids from diseased animals.

I know many dairy farmers and they are good people. I subscribe to the dairy industry magazine, HOARDS DAIRYMAN, and also subscribe to an INTERNET chat group called DAIRY-L. I know that farmers are very concerned about the widespread plague of Leukemia in dairy cows.

Tell your teacher that LEUKEMIA VIRUS in milk does survive pasteurization. I suggest that he review M.J. Rubino's work (University of Iowa, "Inactivation of Bovine Leukemia Virus in Milk.") According to Dairy Industry expert, Virgil Hulse (testified for the defense in the recent Oprah trial)

"Investigations have shown that milk can be a protective medium for certain viruses, for example, foot and mouth disease, maloney leukemia virus, rauscher leukemia virus, rous sarcoma virus and the bovine papilloma virus survive pasteurization."

Studies performed by Rubino using radioactive-labeled lymphocytes in nursing rats demonstrate that they survive digestion and enter the bloodstream, intact!

Cows infected with leukemia virus are not healthy cows, Brandi. I do not care if one professor from your school or the entire staff of your agricultural college wish to convince me that cows with leukemia should be food for my children. Why not label the milk and meat:


"MAY CONTAIN LEUKEMIA...BUT IT'S OKAY TO EAT, TRUST US."


How many people will buy that product?

PS...Cancer is unacceptable for any human and each time I see cancer in a child...I feel like crying. Fifty percent of cancer deaths in children note leukemia as the official cause of death.

Here's a paper I suggest you read, the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Volume 66, pages 1027-1030. Blair and White did a study titled, "Death Certificate Study of Leukemia Among Farmers from Wisconsin." Guess what the scientists found? Mortality from leukemia was significantly elevated among dairy farmers. Study after study have confirmed that there is a high correlation between leukemia in dairy cows and leukemia clusters. (See page 168 of Virgil Hulse's, "Mad Cows and Milkgate.")

You believe that children should drink the body fluids of animals carrying such disease and I find that unacceptable.
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Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.



Name: Kirk Simon
Website:
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From: Independence, MO
Time: 1998-04-09 08:42:17
Comments: John, I heard you on the radio here in K.C.. You were very convincing! God Bless!

Name: Sarah
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Kansas
Time: 1998-04-09 08:01:19
Comments: I have not drank milk for a few months no wjust because it didn't taste clean to me. Now that i know why i'm sure i won't be drinking any more milk at all soon!

Name: Jennie Sanders
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Phoenix, AZ
Time: 1998-04-09 07:02:42
Comments: Interesting stuff.....What led you to become so involved with this issue?

Name: Owen Bird
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: California
Time: 1998-04-08 22:30:15
Comments: I have been anti-milk all my life.

Name: Grace Kawai
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Gilroy, CA
Time: 1998-04-08 22:08:47
Comments: Will share this with my students.

Name: Chris Ide
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: USA
Time: 1998-04-08 12:54:39
Comments: I didn't really hear you from an advertisment, but really I heard you from I think it was the JOHN AND KEN show on KFI am 640, on the radio. It seemed pretty convincing, but I just love milk and will never give it up!!!

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insert comments after this --> Dear Chris,

I am certain that you will still be beautiful without that milk "pustache."

Both "Ken and John" were admitted big-time dairy eaters. One of the two has since discontinued his use of the hormone and fat laden products.

It's hard to give up...However, read the five letters immediately preceding yours. Read the nearly three-hundred letters from people all across America.
The single most convincing argument will be to discontinue milk and dairy for just five days, then on day six PIG-OUT on the stuff. In the first five days you will see something you have forgotten, how good a body is supposed to feel.

After day six you will learn how bad a body can be made to feel and perform after eating poison. You'll see. Convincing arguments are sometimes directly proportional to the amount of toilet paper used.
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Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.



Name: Elizabeth Kaitan
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: los angeles
Time: 1998-04-08 12:14:39
Comments: I found you fascinating on the John and Ken show. I think you get so much resistance because people are very stuck on misinformation they have been given all their lives, and most people are not open minded enough for new information no matter how true it is. The truth can be a very uncomfort-able thing when it destroys ideas you have learned all you life.

Name: Tim Dennehy
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Oakland CA
Time: 1998-04-08 11:55:43
Comments: Got juice.............carrot,parsley,apple

Name: Peter Dettloff
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: southern california, born in chicago, Ill
Time: 1998-04-08 11:26:49
Comments: I had developed an allergic reaction from milk when I was little and developed that white flaky stuff all over my body and to the extent that I almost lost all my skin when I was an infant. I am alive today because my mother put me back on breast milk which that hospital harrased my mother for doing so! That stuff is psorisis or something like that.

Name: Marcy
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Connecticut
Time: 1998-04-08 09:28:12
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgb.dbm-->Dear Robert- I'd like to share information with you on my son who has been diagnosed with mild autism. Although he was born perfectly healthy and developed normally, he was given a contaminated oral polio vaccine with the DPT at 18 months which caused autism and sent his immune system into an activated state, causing numerous allergies. At the time, his diet consisted mainly of dairy products which he craved, and as it was increased, he became more and more "classically" autistic. He was lost in his own world, appeared deaf, and was unaware of people or things around him. My husband and I began seeing an expert in autism in Weston, CT., who told us that autistic children are unable to digest milk and gluten properly; the peptides become toxic to the system and cause brain damage. Once my son was off dairy, he came back to the real world and lost many autistic symptoms. He still has language delays and sensory issues, but he is very sweet and interactive, and close to being a normal child. On the other hand, my daughter who is 3, was taken off of dairy at 5 months when we wised up to the dangers of milk. She is gifted and extraordinary, and people are amazed by her. My husband and I truly believe that this is due to the lack of milk in her diet. And, both children love their Rice milk, by the way! Another thing is, I see issues in all the children I know who have dairy-based diets;either ADD, sensory difficulties, erratic behavior, developmental delays, or poor health. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to convince other mothers that it would be in their child's best interest to eliminate or even cut back on dairy. Thank you for, and good luck with your incredibly important research!

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insert comments after this --> Dear Marcy,

Your letter will serve as additional confirmation that MILK can cause great distress. Your letter will also serve as a message: The Fountain of Youth and cure to illness can be obtained by giving up milk and dairy products.
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Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.



Name: Leila Sadeghi
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Pleasant Hill, CA
Time: 1998-04-08 04:52:18
Comments: Hi, I'm so proud of you! This is the forst anti-dairy book that I've ever heard about on the radio. I'm surprised that the milk companies didn't stop that from getting out. It disapointed me to hear that no one else at my school has heard about this wonderful book yet. I had colitis on and off until I was 14. A chiropractor told me to stop drinking milk and it worked. I haven't been on medication for bronchitis, etc. since. My grandma in Switzerland has had her part of her intestines removed and has osteoperosis. Thanx. :) LEILA

Name: annie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: san francisco
Time: 1998-04-08 01:41:24
Comments: moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Name: Shannon
Website: The Official Guchlrug Web-site
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: FL
Time: 1998-04-07 22:22:28
Comments: GO VEGAN!!!! If these scientific facts don't convince you, what will in your screwed up little programmed mind? Check out my band GUCHLRUG , we have some animal rights songs and are all veggies!! When we get famous we are gonna educate to liberate. Support a struggling band in this world full of meat and milk...

Name: Kari
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Buffalo
Time: 1998-04-06 21:47:56
Comments: Are you an idiot? I do not know where you think you got this information but if you would actually do research to might be able to provide your readers with proper information. I personally would love to know where you got the information you put on your webpage. It is soooo far from the truth it is not even funny. I hope you are satified with the fact that you are probably putting Americans out of business. Yes, it is true that some people are allergic to milk....like many other foods but that is hardly the cause of all evils in the world. Once you post true proof of your "findings" let me know and I will revisit you site. Until then keep this sort of trash of the internet.

Name: Eytan Salinger
Website:
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From: Middletown, California
Time: 1998-04-06 12:04:38
Comments: Listened to your (KSFO?) interview this morning and was both blown away by your intelligent delivery and delighted to witness such an agressive campaign to help protect a largely unknowing public ... I'm not going to touch that white stuff again ... keep up the good work ...

Name: Nora
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Southern California
Time: 1998-04-06 07:17:09
Comments: Thank you for justifying my intense dislike for milk:)

Name: Jessica
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: New Jersey
Time: 1998-04-06 05:42:57
Comments: Cool page! I'm 13 and I became a vegetarian 2 months ago. I want to go vegan and give up milk too but my parents won't let me!!! I'll have to show them this page... Thanks!

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insert comments after this --> Dear Jessica,

Many young people (including one of my daughters) become vegetarians out of compassion for animals. I want people to have compassion for their own bodies. As a vegetarian you have a responsibility to eat proper foods. If your parents do not support you it can be difficult. There are 28 different amino acids and nine of them are essential, meaning that your body will not manufacture them and they must be obtained from the foods you eat.

It is easy for a vegetarian to miss one or two key amino acids and suffer illness. My recommendation would be to include brown rice and beans as one of your daily meals. If you regularly eat from the following four food groups you should maintain good health: 1) FRUITS, 2) VEGETABLES 3) GRAINS 4) LEGUMES/BEANS.

Good luck and try to teach your parents how healthy and tasty a vegetarian diet can be. Ask them to pay careful attention to their bodies after not eating any dairy products for five days. Then treat them to a pizza and a gallon of Vanilla-Fudge ice cream. Tell 'em to pay careful attention to the difference such foods make on their digestion. Teach the the wisdom of a 13-year-old!
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Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.



Name: Paul Gadebusch III
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-04-05 04:37:47
Comments: Interesting, The conclusions leave out some steps but worthy of consideration. The fact that 60%of cows have the leukemia virus.- Do humans catch leukemia from bovine leukemia virus? is it in the milk? I am willing tobuy alot of what you say. Just don't do the scare statements. The whole truth is scary enough.

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insert comments after this --> Dear Paul,

Herds having 80 percent or more cows infected with leukemia are not uncommon. Dairy industry expert, Virgil Hulse, MD recently testified in pre-trial depositions for OPRAH that 60 percent of the cows are infected with bovine leukemia virus.

Hulse details how leukemkia crosses the species barrier in his brilliant book, "MAD COWS AND MILK GATE." You can buy the book from Marble Mountain Publishing at 541-482-2048.

Hulse identifies leukemia clusters among school children and dairy workers which he traces back to infected herds. Scarey stuff!

I have devoted a chapter of my book, "MILK-THE DEADLY POISON" to leukemia. Lab animals treated with the hormones found in America's milk had an average spleen increase of 46 percent after just 90 days. The same size spleen increase in humans would often result in a leukemia diagnosis.

I know very little about the cure but I do know a lot about the prevention... NOTMILK!
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Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.



Name: Sylvia
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From:
Time: 1998-04-05 00:10:35
Comments: Speaking as someone who has been allergic to, and therefore has never drank, or eaten anything containing the slightest remote trace of milk, this page sure made me feel better!!

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insert comments after this --> Dear Sylvia,

All these years you've been made to feel like the abnormal one. All people react to milk. When a person quits drinking milk he or she notices the difference. Infant's colic and earaches disappear. Teens find that acne clears up. Allergies improve as do asthma conditons. Adults, unable to have normal bowel movements find instant relief.

My advice to all people:

Give up milk and dairy products for just five days. You will most certainly note a difference in your body. This will not necessarily make you quit eating cheese and ice cream because dairy products taste sooooo good. Day six will make you quit! On day six I want you to start your day with a bowl of cereal, eat yogurt and a cheese sandwich and a slice of pizza for lunch with a milkshake. Have manicotti for dinner and ice cream for dessert. Cookies for milk make a great snack.

Your body will explode from the inside. Buy extra toilet paper and call me in the morning. Pay attention and you will see what milk and dairy products have been doing to you for your whole life. Then get healthy by discovering the FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH means NOTMILK! :>)
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Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.



Name: DR. MARK WALLEN
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: SO. CALIF, VENTURA COUNTY
Time: 1998-04-04 21:54:16
Comments: LISTENED TO YOU 4/3 ON NPR STATION IN VENTURA COUNTY CALIF. VERY INTERESTING INFORMATION AND THOUGHT PROVOKING SUBJECT. I TOO BELIEVE THAT TOO MUCH OF ANYTHING IS NOT GOOD AND NORTH AMERICANS CONSUME FAR TOO MUCH IN THE WAY OF DAIRY PRODUCTS. FROM AN IMMUNOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE IT IS TRUE THAT DAIRY PROTEINS MUST BE A PRIMARY SOURCE OF MANY 'ILLS' BOTH RECOGNIZED BY THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY(ALLERGY, LACTOSE INTOLERANCE ETC.) AND NON RECOGNIZED, THAT BEING THE PLETHORA OF IMMUNE REACTIONS IN THE BODY AND SLOW,DEGENERATIVE PROCESSES THAT RESULT FROM LONG TERM, EXCESSIVE DAIRY PRODUCT INTAKE. I MOST CERTAINLY AM GOING TO RECONSIDER MY FAMILYS' DIETARY PATTERNS AS IT RELATES TO DAIRY INTAKE. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THE UPCOMING(EARLY SUMMER?) CONFERENCE THAT YOU HAVE ORGANIZED WITH THE PANEL OF MEDICAL EXPERTS ON THIS SUBJECT. WILL THE INFORMATION BE AVAILABLE TO US WEB SITE FOLKS WHO WON'T BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE CONFERENCE? KEEP UP YOUR IMPORTANT WORK AND TRUTH FINDING!

Name: Isis Christy
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-04-04 11:12:58
Comments: This information is very vital. Why has it not been brought to the attention of people? Well, know that I know I will join in your quest to spread information about the harmful affects of dairy products.

Name: Shellie Mavis
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Bates City, MO
Time: 1998-04-04 10:33:08
Comments: I am the mother of four children who drink milk and I would really like to know more. Is your book at a library. Your kids sang great the other day on 710 am in KC MO. Unfortunately I couldn't here their song because the hosts were talking to much.

Name: P. Todd Foster
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: L.A. as in CA.
Time: 1998-04-04 10:01:39
Comments: Heard you on the John and Ken talk radio show in L.A. Most arresting image: those mustaches in all the milk ads are really "pustaches." That's it. No more cheating on my vegetarianism with cheese. Grossed out my wife most effectively too. Please don't go away with this -- a good message.

Name: xdavex
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: MA
Time: 1998-04-04 09:00:00
Comments: Woah! This is a great site! I'm buying the book once I get off the computer! I am a vegan (consume no animal products) but some of the information on this site could be very useful in convincing some dairy drinkers!! Thanks!

Name: Luisa P. Schaffer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: west hills, california
Time: 1998-04-04 08:59:43
Comments: I heard you this morning on the radio. thank you. will buy your book. My daughter passed away from cancer, age 30, was a great drinker of milk. tell others

Name: Tony Mancuso
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Southern California
Time: 1998-04-04 08:39:49
Comments: This is good stuff, i have long believed that dairy is a horrible thing, people just don't pay attention to how there body reacts to things they ingest. Im glad your spreading the word.

Name: Joanne Aello
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Downey, California
Time: 1998-04-04 07:20:49
Comments: Dear Robert, I Heard your great interview on the John & Ken Show the other day. Now I know the real meaning behind all those advertising campaigns for milk. You know the ones that say, "Milk has something for every body!" The trouble is they were never really clear on what that "something" was! As a single mom, I am grateful that my daughter and I never touch the stuff, and find a comic irony in the fact that my ex-husband thrives on it. So Robert...was that clever enough to earn me a free copy of your book and 5 gallons of milk for my ex?

Name: Polar
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: California
Time: 1998-04-04 04:57:15
Comments: You need another alternative on "How did you find us". I found you by listening to Station KPFK, Los Angeles. I have put my name and email address up there, and I specifically do not want it traded or sold to any other lists. Please send me a message signifying your agreement to this condition. Thank you.

Name: Jeffree Moline
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-04-04 02:13:37
Comments: My husband (yes I am queer) and I have a diet with no meat, wheat, DAIRY, sugar or alcohol and drugs (which caused me to drop fourty pounds of exess weight, grow my hair back, and return my eyesight to what it was when I was 20). He heard about this site and told me so I can print it up for all the fools at work that make fun of me for what I eat. Especially the woman who continually diets and works out and asks me why she can't lost that final 15 lbs she wants as she pours herself another large glass of cow snot and tells me I am crazy for suggesting it's the milk. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Name: Dennis McBride
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Frazier Park, CA
Time: 1998-04-04 00:44:42
Comments: I heard about this site from radio station KPFK, Hollywood, CA. Thanks for the information. Dennis McBride P.O.Box 1170 Frazier Park, CA 93225 I'm not presently online. I used a friend's computer to find you.

Name: Paul Benderly
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Brooklyn,NY
Time: 1998-04-03 23:59:36
Comments: Hello Mr. Cohen. I picked up your radio show on the Dr. Atkins show here in New York. I was on the line waiting to talk to you, but unfortunately I was not suuccesful due to the volume of callers ahead of me. I find the topic very interesting and I must compliment you on your passionate feelings about the subject. Your comments certainly make sense, and I intend to purchase your book this summer for my daughter (who consumes quite a bit of dairy products -milk junkie). I wanted to ask you what your feelings were concerning eating meat in regards to the production of mucous. I also would like to know what you would substitute for cottage cheese, which is my basic breakfast. I am on a modified Atkins diet. I almost don't eat carbs at all, and I try not to eatproducts that contain fat (including eggs). I am not totally convinced that a healthy diet includes eating as much fat as you want. Perhaps I am from the old school that feels that too much fat consumed is not the way to go. After listening to your lecture on the radio today, I will start consuming soy milk. I was a vegetarian for ten years, but I gave that up. As soon as I start losing weight, I will increase the amount of carbs that I consume, but I will no longer eat them at the level of previous consumption. When will you be speaking again in the near future (on radio)? Are you touring in the NY area? Again it was a pleasure listening to you, and I can't wait to get your book. Please keep me informed via email Thank you Paul Benderly

Name: Jan Downey
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Culver City, California
Time: 1998-04-03 23:42:11
Comments: Wow -- I heard you on NPR this morning. Have been involved in natural health, whole foods, was a a student at the Institute for Nutritional Therapy in Cotati, California studying under Ed Bauman, Ph.D. prior to relocating to the Los Angeles area. I had never heard such a complete list of what was in milk products, but have known for some time that the dairy industry was in for it sooner than later. Looks like sooner it shall be -- June 9. Great stuff -- thanks.

Name: Maria and Mauricio Salazar
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: San Pedro, CA
Time: 1998-04-03 23:40:47
Comments: we just wanted to thank you for all the wonderful and insightful information on your page. this will definitely help us give up milk completely and be able to feel good about it.

Name: Bob Gibbons
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Kansas-Dairy Country
Time: 1998-04-03 22:18:47
Comments: Who cares if milk will kill you? Any red meat causes cancer of the colon but what kind of person would stop eating steak just because of that? By my 52nd birthday I'll probably be dead because I ate too many spareribs. Sure, my cholesterol is a bit high but it's nothing a little easy cheese won't cure. After I eat my fourteen slices of bacon on my bacon, mayonnaise, and cheese sandwich, I don't care what pus and stuff milk has in it. You know, sitting on the pot all day because you ate three salads and a bowl of dry cereal without milk won't make your life much better, either. Perhaps you could lay off the Granola wagon for a while and enjoy a tall, cold glass of MILK!

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Well...I guess it's too late for you, but, do you really want to stand in front of a classroom of children and give them your unique brand of wisdom?
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Name: Marie Nubia-Feliciano
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Irvine, CA
Time: 1998-04-03 22:09:30
Comments: Dear Mr. Cohen,I just heard you on "Up for Air" (KPFK, April 3, 1998). You confirmed the fears and concerns I have had for the last 10 years. I am an asthmatic and of African/Native American decent. I have always had trouble with milk and milk products. I had severe allergies and still suffer from chronic asthma. I notice that when I stay away from dairy products for a week or so, my allergies and asthma get better. If I tell this to family, friends and medical professionals, they all tell me that I can't give up the milk..no matter what! Well, enough is enough. I have to live with myself and, listening to you on the radio, I've made the decision to give up dairy milk and look into the alternatives to calium. I have never broken a bone and there is no history of osteoporosis in my family so I think I can afford to give up such a deadly product as milk. Even if I did, the problems caused by milk outweigh the benefits of it.Thank you for your unbending committment to the truth and health of the public.Sincerely,Marie Nubia-Feliciano

Name: Andrew Jensen
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Ukiah, CA
Time: 1998-04-03 16:57:48
Comments: I too happened to catch you on the John and Ken Show recently and was glad that for the most part they took you seriously. Milk and dairy products in general are definitely something to be concerned about. I have been aware of the negative aspects of dairy since becoming acquainted with Dr. John McDougal's (he lives just down the road from us here in N. Calif.) warnings on the subject over ten years ago. His research and message parallel yours almost exactly. Best of lluck in getting the word out.

Name: Leslie
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: CA
Time: 1998-04-03 10:17:58
Comments: heard you on the Radio on Tuesday!

Name: mike howe
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Anaheim, CA
Time: 1998-04-03 10:08:23
Comments: heard you on the John and ken show the other day and was quite impressed with your knowledge and passion on the subject. I haven't tuoched milk since that interview!

Name: Arthur Grimes
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Portsmouth, VA
Time: 1998-04-03 06:59:28
Comments: Heard you on the radio . I just sent an email. Plan to get your book shortly . YOu really cut into my mornings of enjoying a bowl of cereal. Oh well..

Name: Sverre Aune
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Ohio
Time: 1998-04-03 06:23:03
Comments: I heard you being interviewed on 700 WLW Radio. Your remarks piqued my interest. It sounded like the big money interests were at it again. Anyway, I bought your book and have almost finished it. I am giving up all dairy products for good! Thank you for your persistence in getting to bottom of this issue, and for enlightening the American public.

Name: Melanie Mammen
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Minnesota/California
Time: 1998-04-03 05:17:47
Comments: I was so suprised to have you answer your 800#! It was great to be able to talk to you in person. This web page is wonderful. It's full of information that people need to see. I first heard you on KFI out of Los Angeles, and you really held your own with those two. I'm currently working my way through your guestbook comments and find them very enlightening! I'm looking forward to reading your book and checking the site for future interesting info. Continue to give the naysayers and nasties their due!

Name: JOHN HUTCHINS
Website: Downeast Boats&Composites
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: MAINE
Time: 1998-04-03 05:14:51
Comments: I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH YOU. I GREW UP ON A FARM , EVEN UNDER BEST CONDITIONS COWS ARE FILTHY CRITTERS . I MIGHT MENTION A FINE HEALTHCARE PRODUCT TO SPIN-OFF FROM THE DAIRY INDUSTRY (BAG BALM) 1 MILLION AND ONE USES! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

Name: Texas McCahey
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: McGruiter Texas all the way!
Time: 1998-04-02 14:11:27
Comments: What do you fiddlie diddlies expect all the cows to do without us good folks workin' withem. Milk stands for Magnificently Injoyable Lovin' Kindness! Me and my kin-folks must drink ten gallons a week!And it is Hee-Haw good! Straight from big bertha herself! You city folk need to stop drinkin all your high sugar,carbonated horse puckey! All your ten dollar cups of columbian bean juice! Y'all just plain silly!

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That's some acronym for milk...great idea for a contest. I'm offering a free book to the best M-I-L-K description. How about Mucous Instilled Leukemia Killer?
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Name: Victoria May
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Los Angeles, CA
Time: 1998-04-02 12:07:52
Comments: I heard your conversation with John and Ken of KFI 640. I was very curious and would like to know how I can obtain some further information regarding the "NOTMILK" issue. Since your radio comments, I've been mentally alert to what you've said regarding the hormone issues relating to the cow.

Name: Joe
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Idaho
Time: 1998-04-02 10:03:22
Comments: At age 25 I stopped being able to tolerate milk. I drank alot of milk as a kid but I feel fine since I stopped drinking milk. I don't know if what you say is worth all the hype but I think there is validity to your research.

Name: Bruce Pusey
Website: ILUVMUD (dirty website, sort of)
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Kansas (MILK BELT)
Time: 1998-04-02 08:25:42
Comments: I just love milk so much you could tell me it is radioactive and I'd still drink it. It just tastes good! I'm a milkoholic and proud of it. As for my cholestrol level, its fine. I think cigarettes might be a better topic to focus on. That's my opinion. (just finished off some fat free skim with a shot of Hershey's Syrup. I know, I'm a sinner.)

Name: Chad
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Canada
Time: 1998-04-02 05:16:52
Comments: I had a hard time drinking my puss when I got home. Thanks.

Name: Sarah Small
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Maine
Time: 1998-04-02 05:01:05
Comments: Husband heard you on the radio and I was curious.

Name: Jessica Mader
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: OHIO
Time: 1998-04-02 04:20:09
Comments: I am convinced that you are right. My M.D. husband and my M.D. son-in-law are deaf to the change of organic andsoy milk. My kitchen is now organic and they must agree on the premises. However they need confirmation of my stand against cow's milk for our three year old grandaughter. Please help. Appreciatively , JMM

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insert comments after this --> Dear Jessica,

Ask those doctors of yours whether or not they ever took a course in nutrition in medical school. Then ask them whether or not protein hormones survive digestion. When they explain to you that it's not possible, ask 'em whether or not nursing humans moms pass anything on to their infants. Watch 'em squirm. Then explain to your educated son and husband something that all nursing mothers and their pediatricians are aware of. Milk buffers gastric pH so that the lactoferins and immunoglobulins and proteins in milk survive digestion.

By this time you should have their attention. Tell 'em that IGF-I in humans and cows have 70 amino acids in the same gene sequence and that IGF-I is the most powerful growth hormone in the human and bovine bodies. IDENTICAL!

It is appropriate for an infant to double his or her weight in four months but the same weight gain is not appropriate for adults. IGF-I promotes growth and cellular proliferation. This growth hormone is the key factor in the growth of every human cancer. When it combines with estrogen the growth potential is increased by 29.5 times. Tell your husband and son that one out of six American moms and wives are going to develop breast cancer. Tell 'em that the nations with the highest rates of breast cancer are also the ones ingesting the most milk, cheese and IGF-I. Denmark, Norway, Holland, Sweden, France and Uruguay.
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Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.



Name: James L Leatham
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Estacada,OR
Time: 1998-04-02 00:50:57
Comments: MILK!!!...The definition for this FOUR LETTER WORD in the Dictionary shoul read simply `POISON'. I having undergone BYPASS SURGERY can testify to the adverse effects,and great bodily Harm this Substance called milk does to all Human Kind. I certainly hope that this is not intended as a Tongue in Cheek Prank,and that this Web Site is truly attempting too Educate the People that the Dairy Industry is selling us all a Bill of Goods. In My learned opinion (The Hard Way),and believe me Bypass Surgery is not pleasant under any conditions,is that Milk is far more dangerous,and injurous to our Health than all the so called legal,and Illegal Drugs Combined,and should be removed from our diet in any form. If we were meant to drink COWS MILK,WE WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN COWS'.

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You and Larry King have something in common. Both of you have had bypass heart surgery. I recently heard King do a "GARLIQUE" commercial. "Hi! I'm Lary King. Garlique lowers cholesterol." Well, Larry also posed for one of those milkpustache advertisements. I'd like for Larry to know that if he is the average American, this year from milk and dairy products he will eat the same cholesterol as contained in 19,000 slices of bacon. By the time the average milk consumer reaches his 52nd birthday he's consumed (from dairy products) the same cholesterol contained in one-million slices of bacon.

SHAVE OFF THAT MILK PUSTACHE, LARRY!
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Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.



Name: Michael Fetzer
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Oregon
Time: 1998-04-01 22:41:31
Comments: Have you considered getting Monica Lewinsky as your spokes model? White mustache, with a caption that simply reads "Not Milk!"

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Occasionally somebody writes the PERFECT JOKE. You sir, have done just that so I'm sending you a complimentary copy of MILK-THE DEADLY POISON! :>)
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Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.



Name: Ken Woods
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Alabama
Time: 1998-04-01 22:04:53
Comments: You got me laughing here! There is no end to what "sacred cows" people will take on as a subject to attack!!!! This is a great "tongue in cheek" page. GOOD JOB!!! Ken

Name: michael anfinson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: san clemente, ca
Time: 1998-04-01 21:05:36
Comments: Very interesting stuff. Interesting to me because I was workingwith this stuff and compunds like it back in the early 70's. TRH was a compound Iwas studying because DES was being taken off the market as a cattle feed. TRH, being a naturally occurring releasing factor had growth promoting stimulation so I was spending my doctoral time with these kinds of compounds. Discussions always turned to the very things you are pointing out. HOwever, where there is $$$ these discussions somehow get little attention! Good luck with your pursuits and by the way.....I had rice dream on my granola this morning!

Name: Jerry
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: yucaipa ca.
Time: 1998-04-01 20:02:07
Comments: be afraid,very afraid

Name: P. R. Rickert
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Lynchburg, VA
Time: 1998-04-01 18:49:23
Comments: I love it!!!! another thing you need to add is the fact that NO other animals drink their mother's (or any other animals, for that matter....) milk after maturation.... only humans...... weird? AND SICK!!!!!!!!

Name: Larry J. Coloni
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Forsyth, Illinois
Time: 1998-04-01 18:42:36
Comments: Hey, I heard you on the radio last night & was curious.

Name: Avi Schwarzmer
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Fairfield, CT
Time: 1998-04-01 14:03:58
Comments: I heard you on the radio twice this week - on WICC 600 in Bridgeport, CT, and today on WCBSNewsradio88 in NY. Why would the American Diabetes Association reccomend two glasses a day if it was so harmful? Surely the Dairy lobby is not THAT strong?? Now, I absolutely love milk, but I am aware it is full of calories and cholesterol. If I totally eliminate milk and dairy from my diet, will my body begin to reverse itself and get healthier, just as a smoker's body will begin to heal itself when he quits smoking? If you say yes, I will give it a try.

Name: Joe Attanasio
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Orange County, So. Calif.
Time: 1998-04-01 13:30:35
Comments: I am researching the nutritional needs of humans to develop a program for one to reach his/her level of Optimal Health and Performance. My gut reaction to your claims is to pass on drinking the pussy, gas forming, white stuff. Hearing you on the L.A. based KFI John and Ken Show indicates that I need to increase the scope of my research. Thanks a lot!

Name: Pansgold
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From:
Time: 1998-04-01 12:06:09
Comments: Undulant Fever http://www.hawaii.gov/health/cdd/cddbruce.htm A former "Milkie"

Name: Eric
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Yucaipa, Calif
Time: 1998-04-01 11:16:47
Comments: I don't know about your research, but I do know that when I drink milk or eat ice cream I have two reactions. I break out with large pimples on my neck or back and have constipation problems. My problem was solved when I gave up milk 20 years ago at the suggestion of a nutritionist and now I use rice milk on cereal. Also, frozen yogurt seems less reactive than ice cream. Most people don't believe me so I know what you are going through. Keep up the good work helping educate people.

Name: Alan Wilson
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: southern california
Time: 1998-04-01 10:54:53
Comments: I heard your interview on the radio, KFI 640, The John and Ken show. I just had to find your web site. Thanks alot for your good work !

Name: Munesh
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Vancouver, B.C Canada
Time: 1998-04-01 10:49:36
Comments: I heard you on CFUN 'talk with attitude' and was naturally shocked to hear that Milk was so bad! I decided to check out your Web page and also pass it around some of my friends to try and get more info. I have also decided to give my 5yr old daughter just 9oz a day from about 20oz a day till I get more information. While it does seem to explain a lot of stuff...I am still apprehensive. Can you blame me? We have always been told Milk is an excellent source of calcium. What and who can you believe these days!!!

Name: Epaboof
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Canada
Time: 1998-04-01 08:55:37
Comments: I would just like to say, that as a kid in a family-that are all allergic to milk products, we have NO side effects, we are all perfectly healthy, and we are all perfectly content in our lives WITHOUT milk. I'm NOT mal-nutritioned without milk, I'm one of the taller people in my class, and I'm also one of the healthier ones. People don't need to drink milk to SURVIVE. Why don't you all CALM DOWN and just not come back to this site? It's a FREE WORLD. The notmilk guy can say what he wants but he's not insulting anyone. Why should you??

Name: Forrest Morton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Chatsworth,Caif.
Time: 1998-04-01 08:40:34
Comments: Heard you on KFI and went to your web page! Milk has always made me feel strange and then I heard someone say that man is the only animal that continues to drink milk after it has been weened, so I stopped and now I feel so much better and I got rid of my milk belly!!! I stopped drinking milk and started eating my spinach raw!

Name:
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: sacramento, calif
Time: 1998-04-01 08:28:51
Comments: MR. COHEN Sitting in a vein-popping traffic jam today i heard you on the John and Ken Show (am650 kste sacramento). You were great despite the constant onslaught and booby traps set by the hosts/callers to discredit you. You are a very intelligent and funny person. Thank you for educating the public on the evil of dairy products. Keep up the good work! T. "no milk 4 me" Pham

Name: Jennifer Schleis
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Huntington Beach, CA
Time: 1998-04-01 07:27:18
Comments: I LOVE RICE MILK, ESPECIALLY THE NON-FATVANILLA FLAVORED ONE FROM MOTHER'SMARKET, I FORGET THE BRAND NAME, BUT IT'SSO DARN EXPENSIVE, AND I CAN'T GET MY 2 GROWING BOYS TO DRINK IT, THEY LOVENON-FAT REGULAR MILK., WHAT SHOULD I DO? NOTMILKMAN RESPONDS: Dear Jennifer, Teach your children the truth and stop buying that equally expensive lowfat milk. Try a little experiment. Take rice and soak it in cold water. The cloudy water you will see is corn starch with MSG and vitamins added. If you want natural vitamins from rice eat BROWN RICE. Run cold water until the the cloudiness disappears. Then bring a pot of water to a boil and add the rice. Strain the rice when it is cooked. Take the remaining liquid (rice milk) and add vanilla and your choice of sweetener. This goes great with cereal and it's a great cost saver! Regards, The NOTMILKMAN

Name: Ed Arellano
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Colorado
Time: 1998-04-01 07:21:07
Comments: I am 55 years old and just recently have found problems with digestive system, after extensive research, determined that milk and milk products are the culprits. Having been raised on a small farm, milk has always been an important, so I was taught to believe, part of my diet, but from the information your page has brought to light, I suspect I have been misinformed. After two months without any dairy products, today I had some ice cream (it was great) I know I will suffer the consequences for the next couple of days, but now armed with your info, I am enlightened!

Name: Tony J Adamo
Website:
From: Orange Ca.
Time: 1998-04-01 06:31:26
Comments: Wow!!! I thought milk does a body good, but it looks like it does a body in???

Name: Joanne Parshall
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Monroe, Connecticut
Time: 1998-03-31 00:35:14
Comments: My husband heard about you from an interview with a local radio station. I am outraged at what I heard, then I checked your web site. What can I do? Are organic products any better? - they seem to be. Thank you for bringing this to my family's attention. I wish I knew about this sooner!

Name: Heather James
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Idaho
Time: 1998-03-30 22:57:22
Comments: What is the alternative to milk then? How do I get my 10 year old to drink something besides milk and like it. It is very frustrating when I hear of all the things we aren't supposed to eat and drink but their are no alternatives.

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WEBMASTER's response:
Mr. Cohen's book does provide some alternatives. Information is being gathered that will expand the NOTMILK.COM WEBsite to include a wide range of alternatives to milk, cheese and other dairy products.

Until those pages are ready and on the "net" please look over http://www.vegweb.com/food/ where there are a good number of alternatives, with recipes, along with an excellent recipe search engine.

A composite HTML page of their site (with dairy recipes) is at: altmilk.htm

I trust this will be helpful in filling the alternatives void.
  DAVE RIETZ - WEBMASTER



Name: Charles S. Lineback
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Cincinnati OH
Time: 1998-03-30 21:38:54
Comments: Found you via Mike McConnell Show, WLW-700 AM Cincinnati OH

Name: Jackie
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Dairy Farm USA
Time: 1998-03-25 20:59:25
Comments: Mr. Cohen, You twist science around to make it sound like milk is a deadly poison and meat will kill you. You would have us get our protein from soybeans. Drink soy milk did you say? Maybe you and yours should read what this person has to say about the hazards of soy products and the enzymes and acids they contain. What will you eat now? http://www.gerson.org/soy.html

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I will continue to eat fermented soy products like miso. There has been some controversy regarding soy products However, even those who are critical of soybeans and tofu admit that during the fermentation process those widely reported problems are eliminated.

I have never said that meat will kill you. Some of my best friends are meat eaters and that includes my wife and three children. I do not choose to eat the flesh of other animals for personal reasons. Here's the scoop on food, Jackie. Your stomach acids will break down most foods into the building locks of life. Milk is an exception. Milk buffers gastric pH so that the protein hormones survive digestion. Those same proteins in steak are broken down. One reason I do not now eat meat is that when I did my digestive processes would take many hours. I work too hard and cannot afford those extra hours of sleep digesting meat. I do not call meat a deadly poison. I reserve that title for milk.

I also am not a big soy user. Guess what? Elephants and race horses do not eat soy either. They grow up to be big and strong without eating tofu. Wanna know which animal does eat soy products? Cows! Baby cows are fed soy formula on most large dairy farms because farmers cannot afford to lose that cows-milk cash flow ($14 per hundred pounds) and calves grow up to be mommy cows and they have strong bones. Hmmm. Think about that one!
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Name: Chuck Cirino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Van Nuys, CA
Time: 1998-03-24 14:39:24
Comments: Milk makes me sick. So I don't drink it. I recently returned from a vacation in Puerta Vallarta. I was accidentally dosed by diary when eating out. - (the same happens at home) - but this time I didn't get anywhere near as sick! - Is the bad stuff in Mexican milk weaker than the bad stuff in United States of American milk?

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How could you be accidentally dosed? Next time you munch on those tasty tacos reach for the bowl of salsa with your guacomole instead of the sour cream...and look inside of those fajitas (and remove the cheese) after taking the first bite!

Mexican food uses dairy as a "flavoring" and milk products influence rather than overwhelm the cuisine as they do here. I have no Mexican statistics, but I suspect that the average Mexican's diet does not come close to the average American's which includes milk and dairy products as 39% of what we eat.
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Name: Jewel
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: St. Paul, Minnesota
Time: 1998-03-24 11:10:23
Comments: I'm definitely not going to have any more milk. I've heard alot of bad stuff, but having pus in milk was the last straw. YUCK! That really grossed me out, I get almost sick to my stomach just thinking about it. Robert, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou for making this page to make people like me aware of what's really in milk. :-) Maybe you could also put up some pics of cows on factory farms and/or describe their conditions? Just a thought. Keep up the WONDERFUL work! :-) Jewel

Name: William
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: San Francisco
Time: 1998-03-23 07:47:38
Comments: No more milk for me, and I love the stuff. Being an educated person with the time to verify the information that I read, I can no longer subject myself to milk. I have read many similar articles on milk and didn't want to believe them. I do now. Most people believe that our various Fed. agencies are in place to protect us. That would be the case, if thoses officals weren't paid off. Monsanto Corp. an Evil enity sells other CRAP to the world. NutraSweet is one of their products. The users of that product have no idea how bad it is for them, these same people most likely think that floride is OK also. The truth will set one free. Let us all strive to find the truth on our own, and not believe the corporate liars. It must be a difficult to be in a profession that contributes to the ill health of the world, especilly when it is the source of their daily bread.

Name: Beverly Sutton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Mars, like you!
Time: 1998-03-23 06:09:41
Comments: If childern are not given an adequate supply of milk during their childhood, the intestines experience an ion deficiency, and the body instead learns to absorb aluminum ions. Over the course of a lifetime, the aluminum builds up in the brain, and can lead to Parkinson's disease. This was in Scienticic American; anyway, you are not a doctor, how do you know? "milk-bellies" -I hear you have a pretty large one, yourself! Ever think of skim milk? Do you seriously think that milk is worse than soda, with sodium benzonate, and the diet soda with Nutrasweet™? You point out a "problem" yet do you pose a _solution_?

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I like your location...Aren't Men were from Mars and Women from Venus? You are correct...I am a large one! I used to be quite a bit larger too! Then I discovered that milk and dairy products contain powerful growth hormones. Those hormones send a signal to every cell in the human body... GROW, GROW GROW! I discontinued taking those drugs and I am getting "smaller" every day. Skim milk has no fat but it does contain plenty of those hormones...and CASEIN, a tenacious adhesive which is also in ELMER'S glue. Is that the protein that you want in your body? Casein is the most abundant protein in milk.

You are right. I am not a doctor. Go and ask your physician if he would like for you to eat 19,000 slices of bacon this year. If you are the average American you will eat the same cholesterol contained in 19,000 slices of bacon from your milk and dairy products during the next twelve months. I say do not do it. Your doctor endorses such behavior. I say...leave Mars and visit Venus.


Open your mind and explore the truth :-)

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Name: Pamela Goff
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Foster City, CA
Time: 1998-03-21 11:11:02
Comments: I am impressed! And equally impressed not to drink or eat dairy products ANYMORE!!!! My kids already willingly drink soy and rice milks when it is available...I'm switching! I really enjoyed your clever and very informative page. Pamela

Name: Bridgett Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Maryland
Time: 1998-03-21 06:59:16
Comments: Hello..I just wanted to say that I didn't drink milk before...and because of the info. on this site..I probably wont ever drink it again...thanks for the excellent information..and i hope other people get the hint that milk sucks...

Name: Derek White
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Carmichael, CA
Time: 1998-03-19 10:47:09
Comments: I've been a vegan for about five years, thanks in part to Robbins' "Diet for a New America." I have more arguments than I care to mention with friends and family about how bad milk is, but I can never remember any specifics from the book with which to back myself up. Now I'll just send them all your way! This page should help settle the long-standing battle between myself and my in-laws about why my kids don't get milk!

Name: JDchik2
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Belmont, OH
Time: 1998-03-17 02:23:17
Comments: Listen, I think you need to check the facts before you take a stand on something. First of all, the allowance of antibiodics in milk has been changed from parts per million to parts per billion. You are still publishing the old information. Secondly, I found that when I check out your resources, many of them are unpublished such as letters, e-mail, and phone calls. How do you know that information is true? Another problem is several sources are from 1995, while this is 1998 and I did not see any source from 1998. On the issue of BST, that is a hormone that a cow produces naturally in her body. How can that be harmful? I was very disgusted with this web page. It is untruthful and is decieving some naive people who belive that everything on the web is true! Please get your facts straight!! This page is a down right lie to get the public to agree with his opinion.
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I will respond to your points one-by-one.

1) On March 16, 1994, a confidential letter was written by a group of FDA employees to Congress complaining about the "arbitrary" increase of allowable antibiotics in milk from one part per hundred-million to one part per million. That increase was dictated by Margaret Miller, Ph.D., a Monsanto scientist who was hired by the FDA to review her own research. Consumers Reports and the Wall Street Journal both have tested milk samples in the New York area and reported the presence of 52 different anti-microbial (antibiotic) residues.

2) EMAILS as references: In citing my references I include all letters, documents, phone conversations and EMAILS. Two of the three-hundred and thirty references in my book were EMAIL references. When I appeared on a nationally televised segment of "FOX ON HEALTH" the dairy industry nutritionist (Edith Hogan) said, "I read his book and he uses EMAIL references. Not very scientific." Have you and Edith compared notes? Take another look at all of my references.

3) Sources are from 1995 and not 1998. The book is about what happened from 1989 until 1997. Most of the actual controversy surrounding the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone occurred during 1993 and 1994. The approval process of this hormone was the greatest controversy in FDA history. This book is about that controversy, not 1998.

4) Cow hormones are produced naturally. How can they be harmful?

You ask a great question. Cows naturally produce a hormone called insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I). IGF-I is the most powerful growth hormone in a cow's body. When cows are injected with rbST the resulting milk has increased levels of IGF-I.

IGF-I is identical in humans and cows. Both contain 70 amino acids in the same exact gene sequence. IGF-I has been described as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of every type of human cancer.

Does that answer your question of how cow hormones can be harmful?

5) You wrote, this page is a lie...please get your facts straight.

I've done a good job of doing just that. Your comments indicate your bias. Read your letter and review my references, one by one.
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Name: Kristi Thompson
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Indiana
Time: 1998-03-16 08:31:48
Comments: Your info is great. Thanks for telling the truth of the matter!!!

Name: Mark Maserow
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Cape Town, South Africa
Time: 1998-03-16 00:38:50
Comments: Freaky stuff

Name: Moo
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: A place where people still tell the truth!!!!!
Time: 1998-03-14 01:50:45
Comments: To those who are easily convinced: ROBERT COHEN'S HEAD IS SO FAR UP HIS ASS HE CANNOT TELL IF HE IS COMMING OR GOING!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS JUST A WANNA-BE SCIENTIST WHO JUST WANTS TO MAKE A FUNKING LOT OF MONEY OFF OF INNCOENT PEOPLE!!!! If someone went and did some REAL research they would find that the notmilkman's information is incorrect.

Name: Spirit819
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Ct, USA
Time: 1998-03-13 21:34:34
Comments: I read through your site and to be honest I found it very informative and insightful. I also read over the comments from others in your guest book and I realize that the old saying "ignorance is bliss" still holds true today. It is unfortunate that people are no better informed today as they were 50 years ago, and will continue to believe the HYPE and and FALSE INFO that "Big Business" and the FDA feed us. We can only hope to educate our children and teach them that business is not in the "business" of what's best for people, their only interest is "Bottom Line" PROFITS! Does it really take a genius to understand that, yes, cows milk is a wholesome food, but, wholesome and ment for a calf and not a baby! I applaude your courage and will bookmark this page and send it to as many people as I can reach to help educate them. Keep up the Good Fight Spirit819

Name: Linda P. Ferguson
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: New Iberia, LA (ever heard of tobasco sauce?)
Time: 1998-03-12 09:13:41
Comments: It's about time!!! I've always thought that it was foolish for adult humans to consume bovine baby food. We don't want to grow anymore! When I heard on the radio that the human & bovine growth hormone was the same, I nearly had an accident (I was driving at the time!). Now, as a mother, new nondairy recipes need to be circulated. As your opponents profess to be wise, they have become foolish. irony: It's not nice to fool mother nature! Remember that commercial?

Name: PUCK
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: A COWS UDDERS I WAS SQUEEZED OUT
Time: 1998-03-12 05:39:27
Comments: YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT I HAVE TO ROLL MY PANT LEGS UP BECAUSE THE BULL SHIT'S GETTING DEEP MAN WHAT THE HELL'S WRONG WITH YOU DID YOU EVER EVEN READ THE INGREDIANTS ON THE SIDE OF A MILK CARTON HEY WAS THAT YOUR PICTURE ON THE OTHER SIDE ALSO??? WANTED FOR RAPING A COW??? ANY WAY THIS SUX I LIKE MY BST,CANCER FILLED GOAT PISS MILK YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY BECAUSE I'M AN AMERICAN AND I DON'T GIVE A SHIT SOP I'M GONNA DRINK IT ANYWAY SO MOO TO YOU BULL SHIT
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Dear Puck,

It is hard to argue against someone with such a convincing argument!
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Name: Kelly Rhodes
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Virginia Via Florida
Time: 1998-03-11 23:50:46
Comments: Very Informative!!

Name: Very Concerned
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1998-03-11 20:14:36
Comments: This is the biggest load of shit I have ever seen. Where is your research to support your claims. Perhaps you should do a little research yourself, then perhaps you will see the truth. Obviously you have nothing better to do with your time. It's people like you drive out the family farms.

Name: Silver
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Florida
Time: 1998-03-11 02:20:16
Comments: GREAT SITE!! LOL. You GO!! I love the information provided about what a person takes in with each sip of milk! I similarly ask people would they drink pesticide tea? Or have an herbicide sandwich? Well in commercial foods that's what people are having! Check out my homepage as well as this one that explains it more...http://www.newhealth.net/schulze/order/ Your site and mine have ALOT in common:) A fellow Vegan, Silver

Name: aster
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1998-03-10 18:38:10
Comments: oh,baby you know you want it

Name: Sandy
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Minnesota
Time: 1998-03-10 09:12:26
Comments: Boy, have you got it wrong. We are dairy farmers. No we do not use BST or other growth hormones. We are not opposed to it, just don't think it would pay for us. It is a shot because if it were fed to the animal it would be destroyed in the animals normal digestive process. Likewise, if it were present in the milk or meat, it would be destroyed in the digestive process. It is not detectable in the milk however which would lead one to believe it is not present. Fat, within a reasonalbe amount, is beneficial to us as an energy source as well as helping our bodies to function properly. You are of course welcome to your own opinion, but please be open minded as to the desires of others.

Name: Brandi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: KY
Time: 1998-03-10 07:05:46
Comments: I would like to comment on two of your comments on your web page. First of all, even if dairy cows are infected with the leukemia virus, it never affects us. My professor, who is a veternarian, downloaded documents from the Pennsylvania State University about bovine leukosis. I quote: "Bovine Leukosis is easily destroyed by several disinfectants and by pasteurization of milk and does not pose any threat to humans or other domestic animals." Secondly, you say that we dairy farmers are allowed to give our cows more and more antibiotics. So what? We do give our cows antibiotics when they are ill, but we cannot allow their milk to go into the milk tank. We throw their milk away. Our milk is tested every day by the milk company and if any, and I repeat any trace of antibiotic is found, we end up paying for the entire semi-truck load of milk. They throw it away immediately. But they won't find any antiobiotics in our milk. If we have a cow that has been treated with a strong antiobotic we test her specifically to be sure that her milk is okay before we even think of letting her milk go into the tank.

Name: dairymann
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: WI
Time: 1998-03-10 01:31:17
Comments: Did you get a sour glass of milk when you were a child???

Name: Angela Wingers
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: born in Macon, GA / currently in Hiram, GA
Time: 1998-03-10 00:28:41
Comments: Great site. The public needs to know. I'm doing a report on rBST/BGH covering toxicological effects that it may have on the body. Gotta go. Have a good one!

Name: Chris J. Brunson
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: New York City
Time: 1998-03-09 13:50:05
Comments: I'm not sure, but, I think you was on a program called Night Talk. Is that true? Anyway, I was very much enlighten by what the person was talking about. In my book, milk is a drug not a food. I'm against all forms of drugs. As for milk, I stopped drinking it since they start injecting the cows with harmones. That includes eating beef as well. In closing, since being on the internet (two years), I have to say that this is the most informative site I viewed. Thank you so much for your dedication to the issue.

Name: Lynne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: New York
Time: 1998-03-09 06:47:09
Comments: Frankly, I am quite disturbed by MANY of your claims. I am a dairy farmer and a veterinary student....and make EVERY effort to make sure that MY cows have the best life possible. Lots of love and attention goes into their care & I take a lot of pride in caring for them. I think that is what being a veterinarian is all about: CARING FOR ANIMALS!!! O.K. Fine. If you don't want to drink milk, that's fine with me. But, don't make false claims that influence innocent minds! You think that the US dairy industry is "manipulative"??!! NOT!!! One may be able to find research that proves that the moon definitely IS made out of CHEESE if he wanted to!! If you are certain that milk causes all of these wonderful problems you propose, then fine!! Fund yourself and do some REPEATABLE research!! I urge you. Then, tell me that my product is unhealthy!! Yes, you may have done some hefty research trying to find the information needed to "brainwash" innocent people who have no idea what the "TRUTH" really is. I could prove that everything caused cancer if I wanted to....isn't that the "trend" now-a-days??? Everything causes CANCER!!! So, I guess that I'll just stop bathing, driving, using the microwave, taking over-the-counter drugs and eating in general. That will solve ALL of my problems!! Did you know that the vegetables that you eat everyday may have carcinogenic residues within them?? Do you think that the water you may be drinking right now may be contaminated?? BINGO!! Natural Spring Water is a joke!! I know for a fact that one company that will remain nameless, in southeastern PA, takes their water out of the local fish hatchery!! Isn't that lovely?? To solve your qualms about the "manure build up"....there is currently legislation on the table in the US regarding the control of waste from large dairy farms. And for your information, there is much talk within the dairy industry of composting manure and selling it for those to use in their flower gardens and such. Many places in the US have already adopted this practice. Also, those with large freestall operations recycle most to all of their water used to flush the alleys. This is very helpful in decreasing the amount of waste that is produced in a given year. I think you should look into that situation a little more before you make false accusations. Commercial "Organic" foods, in my opinion, are just a marketing ploy. Money is what is doing the talking here! I think you may agree with me on that point. But, I assure you that that is the ONLY point. I respect your hard work and research put into this attempt to scare people away from using animal products but, I am convinced your "ego-boost" is only short-lived!! In the mean-time.....have some respect for other's lifestyles!! My deepest sympathies to your troubled mind!

Name: Courtney Clayton
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Indiana
Time: 1998-03-08 22:18:05
Comments: I have been Vegan before and was very unhealthy because I was giving up food. Not a good idea. I have recently gone back to the vegan diet and am substituting my foods and couldnt feel better!! I am now healthier than all my omivore and vegetarian counterparts. Vegan is the way to go, but only if you can do it properly. The advice I give to anyone wanting to go vegan is to take it slow and SUBSTITUTE food , not give it up.

Name: Angel
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Illinois
Time: 1998-03-08 09:18:17
Comments: Where the heck do you get this bull? If milk is so bad, then why are dairy farmers still in business??????? I love milk!

Name: sara dolde
Website:
Referred by: From LinkExchange
From: indiana
Time: 1998-03-08 06:39:04
Comments: Thanks for the information on the web. I found it through vegsource. I usually don't have/buy dairy products. The other day I decided to buy some low fat processed cheese slices. Honestly, it does taste good to me, except for being so salty. After seeing the long hormone list that's in milk a part of me feels like throwing the stuff far away from me. To be open with you though I'll keep it in the fridge. It's expiry is about six months from now so at least I won't feel any pressure to eat it. If it's still all there when the expiry is up I'll laugh and put it in the trash. Again thanks for informing us about all the aweful things in milk these days. March 7, 1998

Name: catilina
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1998-03-07 12:15:00
Comments: you suck and are just jealous...one day someone might actually listen to you and then soon enough they will die of malnutrition...BYE Dear Catalina, Die of malnutrition? For your informtion...cows have strong bones. Guess what? Most of the baby cows of America suck their mother's milk for only two days and are then put on soy formula. You won't catch these little bovines with milkstaches! Regards, The NOTMILKMAN

Name: Wayne G. Sletten jr.
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-03-07 02:57:36
Comments: Do you know what is really stupid? Just think about this for a moment: YOU cry about how there might be residues from antibiotics in milk and other types of chemicals in the milk, but i bet that you almost never think twice before taking some kind of medicine. Asprin, vaccines, other medical medicines, vitamins, chemical replicas of foods, drinking water with chemicals added to it.

I have read a majority of the materials on your web page. I am a young dairy farmer, I do not believe in all these antibiotics and medicines and especially the hormones, we get by on the basics, we only vaccinate for bangs. We try not to overwork our cattle and due to that we have very low mastitus count in our heard. I do not believe in all of the processing that the milk goes through. The milk that I drink is only a few hours, if that much, from the cow. The cream rises to the top.

A lot of your statistics, THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY CORRECT, are most likely taken from milk that has gone through this process and contains traces of antibiotics from cows treated with hormones.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Wayne,

America's dairymen and dairywomen are of a special breed. You and your family work long hard hours and rarely get to take a vacation while producing a product which you believe to be "NATURE'S PERFECT FOOD."

You would probably never think to drink human breast milk and yet, you think nothing wrong in drinking milk from a cow. You probably do not stop to think why. That cream that rises to the top is delicious! I'll admit that. I also admit that ice cream and cheese taste great. These milk and dairy products taste so good that they make up nearly forty percent of what the average American eats.

Are you old enough to understand about fat and cholesterol? If you are the average American, Wayne, the next twelve months from milk and dairy products you will eat the same amount of cholesterol contained in 19,000 slices of bacon. By the time you reach the age of 52 you will have eaten, from milk and dairy products, the same cholesterol contained in one-million slices of bacon.

The cream may rise to the top but it finishes its trek in your arteries. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.


Name: Annette
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: B.C.
Time: 1998-03-07 02:06:19
Comments: I have 6 children of a variety of ages in my house. Granted one is "allergic" to milk, at least she cannot tolerate pasturized milk. Luckily she developed this only after she was past her growing years. The lack of milk does not affect her. One child however is only just beginning her growing years and still being nursed by mom. This child is allergic to all milk substitutes, which is fine because the fat content in milk is perfect for her age. All the other children are at an age where their milk intake is limited. For all of you who are so worried about drinking the bodily fluids of animals, think of the apple tree when you rip their uterus off of their branch and take a bite out of it.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Annette,

Think of the brilliance of the design of the reproductive cycle of that apple. In order to reproduce the species an apple tree must self-fertilize its own seed and then enclose the seed inside of a tasty package designed to be eaten by an animal. That animal must travel a distance from the parent tree and have the seed pass through its own digestive tract along with fertilizer which is dropped in a field. Whatever your belief...God, mother nature or just evolution, such a plan must be reverered as brilliant. There can be no pain to the parent in sensing that its own seed is about to result in a child.
End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Lynnette
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Los Angeles, CA
Time: 1998-03-06 05:49:54
Comments: My husband heard you on KPFK radio in LosAngeles, CA. March 03, 1998. We have 15 month old twins and are very interested in taking them off dairy products. Please give me your opinion on the needs of milk in toddlers. I have read that young children need milk for the growth of brain cells?? Please answer to me direct to my email adress. Your response will be greatly appreciated!! Lynnette Twobabees@ aol.com

Name: Wayne
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: WI
Time: 1998-03-06 04:33:11
Comments: I feel sorry for all the people that believe this shit that you are telling them!!!!!
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Wayne,

Just who is giving who "SHIT?"

When MONSANTO genetically engineered the naturally occuring Bovine Somatotropin (BST) the resulting milk contained increased levels of another powerful growth hormone, Insulin-Like Growth Factor-I (IGF-I).

I have simply re-named the cancer-causing genetically engineered hormone that is now in America's milk and dairy products. I call the new FRANKENFOOD: somatotropic-hormone-insulin-type or simply: S.H.I.T.

You must have read my book! End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: niriko
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: lebanon,connecticut
Time: 1998-03-05 23:38:26
Comments: This website proves that there are still uninteligent clods in the world. You know nothing of the American farmer. The name I used is the name of a calf that I love dearly. Where I work the animals are treated humanely & well cared for.No synthetic hormones are used and the animals give plenty of milk. Thank-you for your time.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this -->
Dear Niriko,

Your "MASTER" wrote a letter claiming to love you dearly. Does he still allow you to drink milk from your own mother or is she back into "production" for us humans?

Do you dream about the "MASTER" plan? Will he raise you to be a milk machine like mom or will you be shipped to a meat processor where you will smell the fear of death, hear the cries of other animals before your turn comes to be violently clubbed to death. Perhaps you will be "humanely" killed by a sharp knife that severs your carotid artery by a compassionate rabbi who labels your body parts Kosher. Perhaps your "MASTER" will be the one to eat his loved one's flesh.

Maybe you'll be given the spare bedroom and raised like one of the family. If you do grow up perhaps you can teach the humans of your family something that they have no clue about. When baby cows become adults they no longer drink their mother's milk. I can just picture you sitting at the family table mooing your protest at an offering of mom's milk!

P.S. -- When questioning somebody's intelligence, like you do in the first sentence of your letter, you would lend credibility to your argument if your spelling was correct. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Danielle Ilten
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Bulgaria-Europe/ Medford-Oregon
Time: 1998-03-05 06:48:41
Comments: I totaly agree with you. For example in France in the hospital every patient has for lunch and dinner GLASS OF VINO. Here - in America - people have milk instead. Why? P.S.By the way, please, excuse my English. With all my respect, Danielle Ilten

Name: Andy Reid
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Ithaca, NY
Time: 1998-03-05 01:35:36
Comments: Very nice site - You will be happy to know that I have been exempt from the specifically human practice (aside from domesticated cats) of consuming another species' milk for about 5 years now. Thank you for confronting the meat and dairy industry's lies.

Name: ryan colgan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: connecticut
Time: 1998-03-05 00:15:13
Comments: you are an ass hole you know nothing !!!!!!!! before you open your mouth next time do some real reaserch!!!!! you got alot of farmers pissed at you !!! watch yourself!!!
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Ryan,
  • I know nothing?
  • Compared to all that's out there... you're pretty close to the truth!
  • I am willing to learn if you've got something to teach me!
End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: J. Byers
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: So. Cal
Time: 1998-03-04 20:48:37
Comments: heard you on Gary Null's show via Roy Tuchman on KPFK, L.A.

Name: Victor Mercado
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Hermosa Beach,Calif. 90254
Time: 1998-03-04 19:29:32
Comments: heard you on kpfk Pacifica radio Los Angeles, Ca.

Name: Scott
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-03-02 22:23:05
Comments: I heard you on WFAN in New York yesterday morning. I am glad to have found other milk-o-phobes like myself. For as long as I can remember, the smell and sight of milk has engaged my gag reflex. I couldn't even tell you what it tastes like. The mere thought of "cow juice" makes me want to vomit. I would like to know the safety of foods prepared with milk such as cream sauces and breads. Also, what about other milk such as sheep's and goat's, and other animal products like chicken eggs? Is mayonnaise safe since its ingredients include raw egg yolks? Thanks
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Scott,

Excellent questions!

First...cream sauces and other dairy products. The Center for Disease Control claims that there are 175 million cases of food-borne illness each year. The FDA allows 700 million somatic cells (pus cells) per every quart of milk. In Europe, the food regulators allow half that amount. We take our chances eating body fluids from other animals. That goes for cows or sheep or goats or dogs. The thought of drinking fluids from any of these animals makes me a bit uncomfortable too.

Is mayo safe? Best Foods, makers of Hellman's Mayonnaise is located less than one mile away from my publisher, ARGUS. I visited their office and spoke to a chemist. He told me that pasteurization destroys the bacteria in eggs. I reminded him that pasteurization does not destroy many bacteria like bacillus or clostridium. He responded that the vinegar and lemon juice added to the mayo acts to destroy whatever pasteurization misses. Sounds pretty good to me! Now...if they'd only add vinegar and lemon juice to the milk. :>) End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Michael Stanley
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Tinton Falls NJ
Time: 1998-03-02 00:08:36
Comments: Heard you on WFAN NY this morning. What a way to wake up on a Sunday morning. You definitely got our attention. I must admit though that it is a hard way for us to look at the product. My wife's first husband's family operated a dairy farm for years. I grew up down the street from a dairy farm. I spent many days there growing up. I remember many glasses of fresh milk. Is the way that milk is produced now that much different than from a generation ago?
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Michael,

A "generation" ago...

  • The average dairy cow yielded just 8 quarts of milk per day. Today a typical cow yields 50 quarts per day.
  • A "generation" ago Cows ate grass. Today cows are fed bone meal and blood meal from their brothers and sisters.
  • A "generation" ago the cream rose to the top of the glass bottle.
    Today the milk is homogenized, the fat molecules are made smaller and become carrier mechanisms for protein hormones which survive digestion and bypass the gut. Milk, once put into glass bottles is now placed in plastic containers.
  • A "generation" ago farmers were allowed to put one part per hundred-million of antibiotics in milk.
    Today, farmers can put 100 times the levels of antibiotics in milk.
  • A "generation" ago there were few antibiotics, ergo, few antibiotic residues in milk.
    Today there are 52 different residues of antibiotics found in milk.
  • A "generation" ago it was against the law to approve a drug for our food supply that caused cancer in laboratory animals.
    Today, thanks to MONSANTO'S attorney (Mike Taylor) hired by FDA, the law prohibiting cancer in lab animals has been changed...minimizing the way FDA now looks at cancer.
  • A "generation" ago one out of 20 women were expected to get breast cancer.
    Today, according to an article in the New York Times (November 8, 1994) thirty-nine percent of American women between the ages of 40 and 50 have cancer in their breasts.
  • A "generation" ago it was rare to hear of a child getting cancer or leukemia or needing a bone marrow transplant.
Today...this all breaks my heart.
End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: kevin hathorn
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: wappinger, ny
Time: 1998-03-01 20:36:44
Comments: looking at both sides...notmilk makes some pretty hairy claims !
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Kevin,

  • If I advised you to drink one quart of human breast milk every day, would you?
  • If I referred to that liquid as nature's perfect food, would you believe me?
  • If I told you that your bones would break in later life unless you drank that human breast milk every day...would you think I was crazy?
  • Do you imagine that human breast milk is the perfect formula for baby humans?
  • Do you believe that human breast milk should be consumed by adults?
  • How about rabbit milk?
  • Dog milk?
  • Buffalo milk?
  • Cat milk?
  • Squirrel milk?
  • Cow's milk?
Imagine if I had $500 million to invest this year with the most powerful public relations firm in the world. I would buy ads in the nations newspapers and magazines extolling the virtues of dog milk. Do you think that I could brainwash you into drinking this product?

What if I spent my money on educational materials when you were in Kindergarten? What if had done the same for your parents? Millions of dollars, invested each year. How about if I hired models and athletes to paint artificial glue on their lips, pretending that they were drinking dog milk? Would you at least try it?

How about if I concentrated it and mixed it with sugar and froze it?
How about if I took out the water, added the scrapings from calve's stomachs...and made a soft runny dog-milk cheese. Would you eat it with a crusty French bread?

Why is it considered normal (and prudent) to drink the body fluids from one beast and not the others?
End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Eric Blackwell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Providence, Rhode Island
Time: 1998-03-01 17:41:30
Comments: I heard you on WFAN this morning. I have always been concerned about sodium caseinate since reading of it in a Dick Gregory publication in the mid seventies. Candidly, I am petrified. I have 3 children ages 1 - 5. They were each nursed by their mother until at least the age of 12 months. I think some of the medical issues they experience are related to their ingestion of milk. This will change.

Name: Jerry Lee Carter
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Pomona & Escondido CA
Time: 1998-03-01 04:41:39
Comments: Found you on Vegsource.org Vegsource was on Yahoo pick of the week a few weeks back. I was founding Pres of EarthSave Inland Empire, and we have hosted Howard Lyman as a guest speaker several times. I am an "AbD" Chemist (All but Dissertation) and have had graduate level cources in both biology and bio chem. This stuff is very scarey...
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Jerry,
I did a book signing at a health food store in Katonah, NY today and met a woman who had just been diagnosed with breast cancer. That is something to be scared of.

This woman has been buying the healthiest products so that her body might defeat the invasive disease so common to women. One thing she did, on her doctor's advice, was purchase "ORGANIC MILK." I recently heard a dairy farmer define the difference between organic milk and non-organic milk. He said, "Organic milk is when the chemicals are hidden in the house and not kept in the barn so that we fool the inspectors."

I told this woman that cancer grows because of the powerful growth effects of a hormone called IGF-I. This hormone has been described as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of all human cancers. When this hormone interracts with estrogen its bioactivity is increased by 29 times. That too is scary!

The scariest part is that IGF-I in humans and IGF-I in cows is identical. When one drinks a 12 ounce glass of milk the level of "free and unbound" IGF-I in the human body will double.

How many doctors realize that this powerful growth hormone is an exact duplicate of the one we naturally manufacture? How many hospitals routinely put skim milk (in the name of good health) on the food trays of women recuperating from breast cancer surgery? End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Trish
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Florida
Time: 1998-03-01 03:22:46
Comments: First, to the guy who was commenting on your "lack of scientific knowlege" (reminds me of "who smelt-it delt it") in relation to "protiens moving thru the intestinal wall", he needs to just read a paragraph or two in any medical book to realize that infants intestinal tracts are different than adults. He could call any hospital's maternity ward and talk to a lactation nurse to get the same info. I'm new to the net and it surprizes me that people are so closed minded. This is an excellent site, you've got my attention.

Name: Mark Siegel
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Born NY Coconut Creek, FL
Time: 1998-02-28 18:19:47
Comments: Spread the word brother!

Name: Jack Wells
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Ozark, Arkansas
Time: 1998-02-28 00:45:59
Comments: I listened to your show on Little Rock talk radio yesterday. My question is, what are you suppose to feed infants? We have a 4 month old who is on similac with iron. Is this a good product or is it as bad as milk. Our oldest child, now six years old, has been in the hospital 5 times with respritory problems and the 4 month old was treated last month for the same problem. Could these problems be linked to the formula? I enjoyed your show and think I will go vegetarian for 1 week to see how I feel. Thanks, Jack
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Jack,
Isomil and Prosobee both make soy-based baby formulas. Any formula based upon cow's milk can be responsible for a vast array of different symptoms. In "MILK: The Deadly Poison," I cite many studies implicating bovine proteins as the primary cause of SUDDEN INFANT DEATH SYNDROME.

If your child drinks milk and has already been in the hospital for congestion and lung-related afflictions...Jack...I cannot give you medical advice over the INTERNET but PLEASE listen to your son's body. He's giving you all the necessary clues. Get him off of the bovine proteins which cause such respiratory problems!!! End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Marty Hawkins
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Arkansas
Time: 1998-02-27 03:42:01
Comments: I heard you today on the Scott Anderson Show in Little Rock. I wanted to call in ask this question but wasn't able to because I work as a mail carrier and my cell phone wouldn't work. Do you think that milk might be what is causing my migraines? I don't drink much milk but on occasion I do. Enjoyed your site and your interview on the Scott Anderson Show.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Marty,
Many people have asked me about migraine headaches. There are medical authorities who place the blame for headaches upon milk and dairy proteins. It is my belief that our brain chemistry is altered by the foods we eat. Those proteins which act as chemical messengers certainly affect neural functioning.
Levels of naturally occurring neural transmitting substances like serotonin or acetylcholine can be altered by the diet. I believe that there is a synergism between milk proteins and other substances which manifest as headaches/migraines. Two such poisons in our foods are aspartame/NutraSweet (which contains phenylalanine) and MSG (which contains glutamine). These two amino acids have been called "NEUROTOXINS" by many medical authorities including Russell Blaylock, MD, and H.J. Roberts, MD. When you see "hydrolized protein" as an ingredient in food you see a substance similar to MSG.
If you eliminate poisons from your diet you will give your body the gift of good health. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Lauri Bartlema
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: texas
Time: 1998-02-27 03:23:02
Comments: I was fine until I read the "pus" part. Is it just as bad if you drink skim milk?
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Lauri,

Skim milk is worse!

Americans have changed their diets. In 1979 the average person drank 149 pounds of whole milk and 78 pounds of low fat milk. By 1994 the numbers were nearly reversed, 75 pounds of whole milk, 124 pounds of low fat. We drink, on average, three ounces per day more of low fat milk. Take the fat out of milk and you have a higher proportion of protein. Proteins in milk, particularly CASEIN, are what cause most of the allergies which I have written about in my book.

A recent column in the U.S. News and World Report (Jan. 12, 1997, p.22) revealed that ASTHMA deaths have more than doubled from 1979 to 1994. The National Lung Association is at a complete loss to explain why. They conclude that there is no dietary factor. Time for a wake-up call, don't you think? If you drink ELMER'S GLUE (casein) wouldn't you expect those bronchioles in your lungs to close up? The horror of an asthma attack...the victim gasps for breath but the glue in the lungs brings on a terrible death.

For 2,598 Americans in 1979 and for 5,487 Americans in 1994... MILK WAS A DEADLY POISON.

The U.S. News and World Report article revealed that most sufferers were African American. They blamed ASTHMA on poverty. What a lack of wisdom. Ninety percent of African Americans are lactose intolerant. These people cannot digest bovine proteins. Solution? Hire African Americans like Spike Lee and Patrick Ewing and Naomi Campbell to wear those milkstaches. Pay 'em each to betray their own race. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: D. Lynn
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Little Rock, Arkansas
Time: 1998-02-27 01:26:07
Comments: I heard only a small portion of your discussion on a local "talk radio" station. It really made me feel pretty good, I have always disliked milk and refused to drink it - even when my parents told me "it's good for you". I never forced my children to drink it either. Now I will encourage my daughter to never let my granddaughter drink 'milk'. I have been slowly evolving toward vegetarianism, somehow I believe my journey will quicken. Thank you for the courage to let the people know what is being done to our food supply. And all this time I thought I was crazy for thinking there was something not quite right.

Name: Misty D. Green
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: FL
Time: 1998-02-26 10:26:07
Comments: no comments
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Misty,
That puts you in great company! I was on HARD COPY last night (February 25, 1998) and nobody from the FDA, MONSANTO or DAIRY INDUSTRY would appear on camera. They had no comment either. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Scott Trant
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Oregon
Time: 1998-02-26 08:11:34
Comments: I am very interested in the Aspertane Truth, I have long thought something was wrong. When I quit drinking Pepsi (Or any Carbonated Drinks) I lost 70 lbs in 90 day's. Over the next ninty days another 30 lbs. just went away. Are we Diet Pop'ing Ourselves to oblivion???
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Scott,
The TRUTH about ASPARTAME can be found on Dave Rietz's homepage: http://www.dorway.com
Nobody reveals the truth about this better than Dave. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Jenn
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: LA
Time: 1998-02-25 10:12:12
Comments: Great website. Go VEGAN, it's the only way to live!

Name: russell tenofsky
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Mill Valley, CA
Time: 1998-02-24 02:32:50
Comments: Damn straight!! It is not just milk that harms the body, mind and sole. All other animal products do so as well. If farmers truly cared about "their" animals they would not be pumping them full of drugs. For the environment, your own health and the animals, go vegan.

Name: DIANE PARKER
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: ORIG. DELMAR, NY (2 YRS-SAN DIEGO)
Time: 1998-02-22 16:40:42
Comments: I became a vegetarian over 20 years ago and overindulged on dairy products due to my misconception about adequate protein intake. I became overweight, developed tendonitis (calcium deposits) in my elbow, and had chronic upper respiratory problems. I finally eliminated all dairy products from my diet after reading books by John McDougall, Frank Oski, Gary Null and Neal Barnard. All of the above mentioned health problems cleared up and my energy levels increased. It was 10 years later that I gradually reintroduced dairy products into my diet (I still couldn't bring myself to drink straight milk). In a little over a year, my weight is out of control, excess mucous and upper respiratory problems are back with a vengeance and I'm beginning to have joint and arthritis-like pains. I directly attribute this to my dairy product consumption. Your site has reaffirmed my conviction to live dairy-free. I look forward to reading your book and I'm grateful for you and others who are trying to reeducate all of us.

Name: Paul M. Fleiss,MD,MPH,FAAP
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-02-21 07:52:11
Comments: Pasteurization and Homagenization alter the composition,digestion and bioavailability of milk in a significant manner I suggest that you look at Raw Certified Milk as produced by STEUVE's Natural Dairy in Calif for a much different product than what you are talking about. All milk is not the same!!
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Doctor,
Many people are not aware that milk is often pasteurized two or three times before it begins to snap, crackle and pop in their cereal. Why would processors have to repeat the procedure if it works so well? ANSWER: Allow me to reveal what should be self evident ...PASTEURIZATION DOES NOT WORK! When conditions, such as heat treatment are not favorable to the little guys (bacillus, clostridium, etc.) they protect themselves and form spores which then protect them from boiling and antibiotics and germicides. When the milk cools and conditions become suitable for growth these bacterium are restored to their original state. Most consumers are fooled by dairy industry propaganda and trust their health to the pasteurization myth. These same consumers should use their sense of smell after even one week of refrigeration. Something's rotten in that container. The offensive smells are the toxins secreted into the milk by the cultures of microorganisms which continue to grow.

If milk is to be safe to use it must come from clean and disease free animals. Unfortunately, most of the milk of America contains leukemia, tuberculosis or the bovine immunodeficiency virus, according to Virgil Hulse, MD. Doctor Hulse has been a dairy inspector and is one of the well established experts in America on this subject.

My interest in milk began about almost four years ago. I did not want my children overdosing on powerful growth hormones which are not destroyed by pasteurization. I have since learned that pasteurization does not destroy many other dangerous substances.

Please look up "PARATUBERCULOSIS." Cows are getting an intestinal disorder from paratuberculosis, a heat resistant mycobacterium. Cows get JOHNE'S DISEASE from this organism and humans catch this intestinal disorder by drinking the cow's milk. There is a positive link between human CROHN'S DISEASE and milk consumption. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Richard Schwartz
Website: Virtual Yeshiva
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Staten Island
Time: 1998-02-17 19:20:24
Comments: Hi Robert, It has been great to be in touch with you recently. I enjoyed your courageous and challenging book very much, and look forward to working with you in the future to increase people's awareness. Best wishes for much continued success, Richard

Name: Ron Hamilton
Website: Good Bunny Awards
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1998-02-15 20:46:27
Comments: Hi Robert, I read your book and am in awe of the amount of finances and time that it must have taken to accumulate the scientific data. There is a price that you and your family have paid that most are not aware of. That is the time lost with each other while you dedicated your efforts to finding the truth on our behalf. We owe the Cohens of Oradell, New Jersey more than can ever be repaid. Little did the FDA know when they invited you to discuss rBST/rBGH that they would very soon have a tiger by the tail. No doubt Monsanto kicked ass over that! I also have to confess to being mildly disappointed that the dairy advocates haven't trotted out some scientific data of their own in rebuttal. It's hardly surprizing though, as there is none. Their efforts seem to fall into two refrains: (a) My family produced milk and drank it for generations.(proof of nothing) (b) We want to squish you with a milk truck. Hmmm. No science there, but very revealing nonetheless.

Name: Seph Stevens
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Saint Louis, MO, 63126
Time: 1998-02-15 20:03:48
Comments: Dear Robert, I am greatful that a person like you exists!! I heard you're going to be on the air in St. Lou, huh?!? 550-KTRS AM, late this Sunday night (early Monday Morning), February 16th at 1AM to be exact. I can't wait to hear all of the ney-sayers call in and "try" to rebutt you with what they think they know! HA HA, it's gonna to be a blast! I have NOT drunk (YUK) since '92. That's when I heard an intriguing couple of quotes. "Humans are the only species that consume milk into our adult years, AND we are the ONLY species that consumes the milk of another species." That was one that got me thinking... Here's another... "If you took the milk from OUR store shelves and fed it to a calf, (the animal that's supposed drink it!) it would be dead inside of two weeks!!" THAT IS SOMETHING TO PONDER!! I did not come up with those comments, but they have rung through my brain/mind ever since I first heard them! I have been reading your other guest book entries, I find some of them quite hilarious! The "milk truck running over your head" one... Awwhhh, I was in stitches!! But seriously, I think the reason those milk farmers are so upset is because when you, with your voice, and me (and others like me) with my decision to NOTBUYMILK... They will be looking for a new JOB!! hehe Stay who you are and I'll... "See ya "in the air", Seph Stevens

Name: Eleanor Thomas
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Britain originally
Time: 1998-02-13 09:05:03
Comments: I am doing a talk on being vegan at college, (14 years vegan 2 vegan kids, and vegan partner) and your facts and figures are great. Thanks!

Name: Farm Boy
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Illinois
Time: 1998-02-13 06:51:06
Comments: I help manage a dairy farm. I think your arguements are based on sob stories that you have heard and not on fact. I agree with the fella from the "Best Damn Dairy in the World". I would be glad to see your head run over by the milk truck. I also wouldn't mind it running over all the rest of your kind like the tree huggers and 'Save the world Freeds' who are ruining our society!
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Farm Boy,
If you call what you've read a "sob story," the following should be a real tearjerker!.

The May, 1995 issue of the "Townsend Letter for Doctors" revealed:

"In reality cow's milk has been linked to a variety of health problems."

The article listed 1) mucous production 2) hemoglobin loss 3) childhood diabetes 4) athersclerosis 5) heart disease 6) arthritis 7) kidney stones 8) mood swings 9) depression 10) irritability 11) allergies.

Frank Oski, MD, chief of pediatrics at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine stated:

"At least 50 percent of all children in the United States are allergic to cow's milk, many undiagnosed. Dairy products are the leading cause of food allergy, often revealed by diarrhea, constipation and fatigue. Many cases of asthma and sinus infections are reported to be relieved and even eliminated by cutting out dairy."

I also appreciated your comment, "all the rest of your kind." Do you mean environmentalists? Do you mean people who challenge existing dogma? A few years ago Dr. Frances Clifford, health commissioner for Niagara County, home of the Love Canal, a toxic waste site for the Hooker Chemical Company, said:

"There's a high rate of cancer among my friends. It doesn't mean anything."

Was Dr. Clifford "your kind?"

Perhaps Frank Getman, President of Merrill Company, manufacturer of Thalidomide, was your kind. On February 21, 1962 he said, "There is still no positive proof of a casual relationship between the use of Thalidomide during pregnancy and malformation in the newborn."

Most certainly, your kind of man would be Dr. Max Cutler, who was quoted in the NY TIMES (4/14/54) as stating:

"I feel strongly that the blanket statements which appeared in the press that there is a direct and causative relation between smoking of cigarettes, and the number of cigarettes smoked, to cancer of the lung is an absolutely unwarranted conclusion." End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Audra
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Sutter Creek, CA
Time: 1998-02-12 04:11:34
Comments: Mr. Cohen ~ I learned of you through a radio program Howard Lyman was a guest on a few months ago. I have been a vegetarian for almost two years now and had considered myself a lacto-ovo vegetarian until recently. The last time I consumed scrambled eggs I had terrible stomach cramps and what I call "egg-diarrhea" for two days. No more eggs for me! However, I still consumed dairy products. It wasn't until I was channel surfing on the radio one morning that I came across a program Howard Lyman was a guest speaker on (either referencing or promoting your book Milk: The Deadly Poison). I couldn't believe what I was hearing! I was so nauseated to hear that blood and puss were part of what I put into my daily coffee, I wanted to projectile-vomit right then. Needless to say, the instant I got home, the milk, cheese, ice cream and butter were in my trashcan and out of my house for good. Thank you for the excellent information. Greatfully, Audra

Name: Fred Smith
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1998-02-11 12:20:47
Comments: Signed your guest book last year. I have continued to avoid milk products and stayed with vegetarian diet for the past five months. Just finished Raymond and Dorothy Moore's book "Home Health" published in 1986. They also recommend avoiding milk products and pointed out many of the same contradictions of calcium deficiency, increased heart disease due to high fat content, food allergies and increased asthma. I watched the PBS show tonight (2/10/98) concerning "Mad Cow" disease and how BST has easily jumped to other animals, including humans. I lived in England for six years, ate many meat products and drank whole milk. The thought of this disease turning my brain into sponge is terrifying. All because the government wanted to protect the cattle/dairy industry $$$. And now we find the US government still hasn't completely banned the cannibalistic feeding of animal bone meal to animals. Thanks for your service to my family and friends!
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Mad Cow Disease is passed from cows to humans as we eat their body parts and drink their body fluids. The television show you refer to mentioned the human equivalent of Mad Cow Disease (similar to Alzheimer's), which is called Cruetzfeldt-Jacob. The program did not tell you that Dr. Cruetzfeldt and Dr. Jacob worked with Dr. Alzheimer at the beginning of the twentieth century. I am concerned that many Alzheimer's deaths are incorrectly diagnosed. In reality, this degenerative brain disease can be traced directly to cows. Meat that we eat is subjected to powerful acidic and enzymatic activity and encounters a gastrointestinal pH of 1.8, which is very acidic. Drink a glass of milk and the pH of the stomach is buffered up to a 6.0 which is more basic. Do body fluids from diseased animals contain protein particles such as PRIONS? I have spoken with researchers at numerous institutions having brains in jars, preserved for study. These organs were taken from Alzheimer's victims. Upon re-exmination, many of the brains have tested positive for Cruetzfeld-Jacob Disease. This year a Nobel Prize was awarded to Stan Prussiner for describing the protein that cows pass on to humans. The incubation period for the disease can be as long as thirty years. The implications are obvious. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: MICHI HOUSTON
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: LOS ANGELES, CA
Time: 1998-02-11 02:20:14
Comments: Great info! I have been saying it for years, that human consumption of milk is not natural. I was convinced over 40 years ago, when my 4th grade class visited the dairy. Yuk...oh well, may be it was because I wasn't breast fed. Keep up the good work and spread the word. Information is power!!!

Name: John Bain
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: California
Time: 1998-02-11 00:51:53
Comments: I heard you on the radio and you stated that milk causes crohn's is that so???????Then why do Dr's not have a cure for crohn's if milk causes crohn's?????I have crohn's and want to know more.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear John,
The "hottest" news among dairy farmers since the beginning of the year has been a form of tuberculosis called "paratuberculosis" which causes Johne's Disease in cows. Some people catch this disease from cows. There is now a direct link between Johne's and Crohns. Four million American women have irritable bowel syndrome. Two million men. These people have intestinal disorders so serious that they report their problems to their physicians. Milk represents nearly forty percent of the average American's diet. Give up all milk and dairy products for just one week and you will see the difference. Many do not report their problems.

In my book I write about an enzyme in milk' called bovine xanthene oxidase. This "oxidant" destroys cellular material. What do doctors give Crohn's patients? Prednisone or prednisolone, which irritate the stomach. In order to give their patients relief many physicians recommend that these powerful drugs are taken with milk which (buffers the acid) might just be exacerbating the problem.

Let me tell you about the dishonesty of our Food and Drug Administration, United States Department of Agriculture and Dairy Industry. Pasteurization really does not work. Microbiologists know this. At the first sign of heat the bacillus curls up and changes shape and becomes a spore (Greek for "seed") and when the milk is cooled, resumes its dangerous bacterial form. Smell the milk if you leave it out of the refrigerator for a few hours. Smell the milk after it sits in the refrigerator for one week. Many seek to deceive you but your olfactory sense will not deceive you from the truth. Drink milk and you drink virus, pus and bacteria.

I am sorry, John. I cannot give you a cure. I simply offer, by prevention, a cure for many ills. Don't drink milk or eat dairy products. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Deanna Nace
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Vancouver, Washington U.S.A.
Time: 1998-02-09 12:35:54
Comments: Keep up the good work. A lot of work needs to be done to spread the word. There are still a lot of ignorant people out there that do not have a clue about this stuff.

Name: Samuel Torres
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: New Jersey
Time: 1998-02-08 17:00:23
Comments: Thank you for the public service you are providing. Question: I have started buying Organic Milk for my two kids. I know this is better, but is it THAT much better? Sam Torres
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Sam, The healthiest cows produce milk containing powerful growth hormones and proteins appropriate for their own calves. These same proteins cause 100 different antibodies to be produced in the human body. When cows are injected with genetically engineered growth hormones the resulting milk contains increased levels of these same hormones. That should answer your question, result in better health for your entire family and save $$$ in your family budget. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Lyn Churchwell
Website: >
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: TN
Time: 1998-02-07 02:19:03
Comments: Thank you for the information! LC

Name: THERESA
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Bergen County, NJ
Time: 1998-02-06 09:44:15
Comments: I thought switching to organic milk would be better for my children, but after visiting your website I do not think my children should be drinking milk or eating milk products. I am a teacher and I will make many parents aware of the information that I have just read and hopefully people will open their eyes and make some adjustments in their lifestyles. Thank You!

Name: pluto
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: New York
Time: 1998-02-05 18:45:32
Comments: I LOVE COLLOETING MILK ADS!
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Pluto, I've heard of that game (colloeting). That game was described in Bradbury's "Pluto Chronicles," (your home planet, perhaps?) One takes small sharp spears with three tail feathers as stabilizers and hurls them at a circular board containing an offensive photograph, trying to hit the very middle. I assume that a "bull's-eye" on your board would be one of those milk-pustaches. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Boyd Gathwright
Website: Boyd Gathwright's Homepage of West Virginia
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: West Virginia
Time: 1998-02-05 02:26:25
Comments: Heard about you on Zo's radio program out of Baltimore, MD on 680AM

Name: Daniel Light
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Los Angeles via London
Time: 1998-02-04 23:52:44
Comments: I am a chinese herbalist/acupuncturist using O ring testing to measure biophoton emissions from acupuncture points. If the patient is using dairy products we will find antibiotic drug residues coating immune cell receptors and suppressing immune function so that the patient is unnable to efficiently overcome chronic infections. All our patients are taken off dairy with good clinical results. My training was with Matt Van Benschoten in Reseda California. I just sent him your materials. I look forward to reading your book. Best wishes Daniel.

Name: Karen
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Somerset,NJ
Time: 1998-02-04 20:36:56
Comments: I heard you yesterday on Gary Null's program. You were an excellent guest, and made quite an impact on me . Having 2 children I immediatly got up and dumped the milk from my refrigerator. What I found really scary was the previous day I got into a discussion with my neighbors that I thought the idea of cows milk being giving to human babies was crazy. We are humans. Not cows. They thought I was biased because I had breast fed my children. Luckily I taped the program you were on and look forward to playing for them. Thankyou for speaking out! I appreciate that there are people like yourself, looking out for the rest of us. If there is any way I can help. I will. Sincerely, Karen

Name: Victor Takeall
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: New York, New York
Time: 1998-02-04 06:07:41
Comments: Today I heard you on "Natural Living With Gary Null" on Pacifica Radio WBAI 99.5 F.M.in New York.I plan to get a copy of the show and your book. Thanks for the GREAT SHOW and all of the great info.

Name: Bryan Yearwood
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: brooklyn n.y.
Time: 1998-02-04 05:56:37
Comments: Heard you on Garey Null show ,I have been looking for a concise arguement to defend my anti- milk statements. Now i have proof. thanks bryan

Name: Mike Rogers
Website: Opiate's Fix
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: NJ
Time: 1998-02-04 05:45:06
Comments: Read "A Diet For a New World" by Robbins

Name: Jerome McLean
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Queens,NY
Time: 1998-01-30 02:45:54
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgb.dbm-->I heard the author on a radio station in ny WWRL 1600 on Wed. 01/28/98 I have always believed there was a connection between milk and all the illness' we sometimes develope. I personally cannot tollerate milk so as an adult I seldom drink it and incidently I don't get as many cold or illness' as other family members or friends. I will be buying your book and promoting it everywhere I go. Thank you.

Name: Intef
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-01-29 10:03:30
Comments: Thanks 4 the info.I was on line and listening to the talk you gave on Wol radio 1010am here in Baltimore. You 've helped me get back on the straight & narrow as far as my diet is concerened. I too used to be vegetarian. I got lazy over the years.

Name: Pat Blackwell
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: MD
Time: 1998-01-29 09:24:19
Comments: I heard you on NightTalk out of NEW YORK. Thanks for the info.

Name: Cindy Cohen
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Same place as you
Time: 1998-01-28 20:42:17
Comments: Hey Rob, pretty impressive! NOTMILKMAN COMMENTS: Thank you, little sister!

Name: Ryan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1998-01-27 05:25:27
Comments: Okay, I'd like to argue on the Bible comment. First off, I'm going to quote what my King James version Holy Bible says for Heb 5:13-14. For every one that useth milk (or, hath no experience) is unskillful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Reading those two verses only you can draw two meanings; 1 it is bad to drink milk, or 2 this is an anology. If you read the entire passage these verses come from you would understand that the writer of this book is talking about learning about Christ and spreading (teaching) the good news. The analogy is that babies (unschooled Christians) cannot handle solid foods (the heart of the matter of Christianity). Saying that "adult" Christians don't need "spiritual milk," is not true. Part of being a Christian is continual learning of the basics as well as teaching or sharing with others. By studying the basics and understanding them more , you can further understand the nature of how Christ has changed our lives. I do understand that your quote is meant to further your ideas, but, like many other people before you, you are taking the Bible out of context. Those two verses laying alone, naked and bare, have different meanings when placed inside the rest of Hebrews. I can make no undisputable arguement for or against other information on your site, sir, but as far as this quote goes you have erred. I ask you to either add more scripture to the quote or remove it. With this letter you are no longer ignorant of your mistake and should correct it. In my humble opinion, Ryan

Name: Jeffrey
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: St. Louis
Time: 1998-01-26 18:24:02
Comments: That's it, I'm buying your book. I've been reading the comments on you guestbook for several months now and I am very impressed. I admire the way you vigilantly defend your research. Farmers and wannabe scientists have attacked it from every angle and you are able to refute their arguments every time. Questions: Will you speaking in or near St. Louis anytime this year? Do you have any new projects in the works? I wanted to mention something else that may be of interest to anyone that suffers from allergies. True fact. I gave up milk about four months ago and my allergies to cats and dust are gone completely. I will find out this spring if milk was the cause of my ragweed allergy as well. Keep up the fight Robert.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Jeffrey, Thanks for your comments! It is a breath of fresh air compared to the many violent letters and phone calls I've received. I'd love to come to St. Louis, home of the Monsanto Agricultural company, maker of the genetically engineered bovine growth hormnone which when injected into cows causes an increase in another milk hormone, IGF-I, the key factor in the growth and proliferation of every type of human cancer. They also gave mankind the gift of dioxins and of course, the artificial sweetener, aspartame, which caused brain cancers and grand mal epileptic seizures in laboratory animals. Let's not forget Monsanto's industrial carpet which makes many people ill and of course, genetically engineered foods which all of us will soon be eating. When reading my book you'll recognize one important name...a man who was Monsanto's attorney and now sits on the Supreme Court, Judge Clarence "LDS" Thomas. Wonder how he'll vote if and when he gets Oprah's case? (Twelve States have passed laws making it against the law to criticize an agricultural product. The heck with the Bill of Rights! That's why Oprah is on trial.) Guess what St. Louis company was behind the lobbying efforts in those states that enacted Agricultural Disparagement laws? (YEP!) You'll read all about it in "MILK-The Deadly Poison."
Regards, the NOTMILKMAN
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Name: Kevin McSweeney
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Colorado
Time: 1998-01-25 22:56:43
Comments: I guess anyone can call himself a "scientist" or knowledgable nowadays and anyone will believe it. If you knew the facts, you would know that proteins (which IGF-1 and 2 are) are broken down into their constituent amino acids and absorbed through the intestines that way. Proteins are too large to pass through the columnar epithelium of the small intestine, and that is why they have to be broken down into their amino acids. Any "scientist" would know this to be truth. Maybe you do know this but it doesn't help your propaganda and you are ignoring that fact. You are a sad man to try to put down a product with your lies. Let's be honest and let people make up their own minds.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Thank you for telling me the facts. Throughout history men have lined up in threesomes, one with hands on eyes, another with hands on ears and the third with hands on mouth. These are the kinds of men who imprisoned Galileo for having discovered the moons of Jupiter with his telescope. These same men would have chained Promethius for having stolen fire from the Gods. The world is not flat? The sun does not circle the earth? Nonsense!!! I imagine that it probably has not occurred to you that nursing human mothers nourish their infants with (through breast milk) immunoglobulins, lactoferins, lysosomes, carnitine and growth hormones. When these same children are weaned off of the breast and fed cow's milk their bodies produce 100 different antibodies to bovine proteins. How could this be possible if these proteins are destroyed? According to you (and other scientists) this could not be possible. In my book I have written a detailed physiological explanation for the survival of these "delicate" protein hormones. Why is it that nursing mothers and their pediatricians (overwhelmingly supported by the medical literature) agree that the nursing mother passes these important elements onto her infant and you still have such trouble with the concept?

Milk works, Kevin. It's a hormonal delivery system. In your wisdom, you probably no longer drink human breast milk. However, you endorse drinking hormone-laden milk from other animals. What college professor taught you that wisdom?

The bottom line on IGF-I is this: IGF-I (7800 daltons in size, made up of seventy amino acids) survives two phases of enzymatic activity. First, gastric acids are buffered within a stomach environment in which the pH is 1.8, up to a pH of 6.0, so that these proteins are not destroyed. When milk is homogenized the micronized liposomes are able to bypass your hypothetical construct of "gut closure" and these hormones are absorbed, intact into the bloodstream where they remain bioactive for up to thirty minutes. This was the "condensed" version of what actually happens. In "MILK - The Deadly Poison" I describe the actual mechanisms (and scientific evidence) in detail. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: liz
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: shakopee, mn
Time: 1998-01-23 22:19:07
Comments: you guys are so awesome!

Name: Stephen Philpott
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Tennessee
Time: 1998-01-22 09:11:42
Comments: OK another farmer comment. I see several comments refering to the fact that no other animal consumes the milk of another......True.....How many other species cook their food? How many grow food in anticipation of a future need?(granted some STORE what they find) How many wear clothes?(of their own free will) How many other species know they are going to die? How many,if you put them in a cage for 30 days with 30 days supply of food would survive? Do you think maybe we are created just a tad bit different?????? Let me first compliment the fact that your web site that condems my industry isn't based heavily on the emotion filled crap of some animal rights groups. These groups suggest that for us to get the most out of our animals we must abuse them. That makes sense! I assume that since you have performed animal research, that you are not firmly entrenched in that camp. I look at your site and wonder what alternative beverage you suggest. We can all agree water is healthy.Orange juice is good. Do you own stock in CoCa Cola ? Tea and coffee? Works for me. My point is you can't name any thing that somebodt else can't shoot down or write a book on. I don't suppose you profit selling this line of thinking do you? Oh yes facts. I just about forgot. I must have missed it but I did'nt seewhere you mentioned that BST was a naturally occuring hormone already in cows. We just found a way to mass produce it. IT HAS BEEN IN EVERY GLASS OF MILK CONSUMED IN THE HISTORY OF MAN.(or cows) By the way I know of many who tried it (myself included) but few who continued. Concerning antibotic levels, you may be right, but we are told that they can measure in parts per TRILLION. I must thank USDA for allowing me to simply conform to parts per million.This is a fact. Quality standards are tightened constantly. To the point of putting poor managers out of business. I don't have the resources to argue every point you make. Some may have some validity.But I do know milk is a clean product. I also know some of your contentions are a stretch. Cows clubed to death at the processor????? Boy thats efficient. It always comes down to making a living does'nt it. You have a product to sell and unfortunantly in todays society you must be outrageous to get attention. Good luck in your endeavors. I am sure you will have some success, but unfortunatly you can't fool all the people all the time.(just some) respectfully(sort of) Stephen Philpott Shelbyville Tn.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Stephen, Let me clarify my position on BST or bovine somatotropin. My book is quite detailed in this regard. When MONSANTO took the natural bovine growth hormone and recombined it with bacteria they created a new hormone called rBST. There is a great misconception that untreated cows have milk with no "BST." Milk from the healthiest cow contains BST. "B" stands for bovine. Humans also have growth hormone called HST or human somatotropin. These growth hormones are usually specific to each species and can only work within that species, like a key fitting into a lock. In theory, when we drink milk with BST or rBST neither hormone will work in our body.
HERE'S THE BIG PROBLEM!!!
Cow's milk also contains a recently discovered hormone called IGF-I, or Insulin-like-growth factor-I. This is the most powerful growth hormone in the body of a cow.

Humans also manufacture IGF-I. It is the most powerful growth hormone in our body, too. Thousands of things can cause cancer but one makes it grow, IGF-I.
Human IGF-I and bovine IGF-I are identical. Both have 70 amino acids in the same gene sequence. Four thousand mammals in the animal kingdom and hundreds of thousands of different hormones and only one perfect match! Imagine that?
When we drink milk from cows we deliver this powerful growth hormone to our own bodies...we double the amount naturally present. This hormone does not discriminate. It makes ALL cells grow.
You will not grow a bigger ear or nose (unless you are Pinnochio or the FDA) but cancer has no such limits.
Now that you understand a little about IGF-I let me tell add more bad news. Many have said, "In theory BST does not work on people." Well, it does. Two MONSANTO scientists (Hammond and Collier) have written that the action of BST (in cows) is regulated by IGF-I receptors. If that is true, and we have the exact duplicate IGF-I hormone in our bodies, then BST actions can also be initiated within us too by IGF-I which is identical.
End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing --> Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Sarah Cohen
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: New Jersey
Time: 1998-01-22 01:20:34
Comments: -->Yo, cool dude!! My Dad says the same thing about milk. He wrote a book too! His name is Robert Cohen, perhaps you know him. He's a hip-happening guy. Talk later (I'm surfing onto the Days of Our Lives Page!) Bye now!!!!!!
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Sarah,
Get off the computer and go do your homework!
Love, Dad End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->

Name: Kristi Kendell
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Utah
Time: 1998-01-21 20:52:29
Comments: I really liked this page. It listed all the facts and was easy to read and understand. Thanks to whoever put it together

Name: Greg Smith
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: The Best Damn Dairy in the World
Time: 1998-01-21 09:34:33
Comments: Demons lurk everywhere. One looks at you everytime you look in the mirror. My best day would be spent watching a Milk Truck run over your little head. Then I'd ask " Got Milk?"
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Greg, I would not wish you any personal harm. Thank you for taking us into the demon-filled fantasy world of a dairyman's mind. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: john ulrich
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: columbus, ohio
Time: 1998-01-21 01:49:14
Comments: To all of those that are easily swayed: Do you think this man is on the talk shows because he is a scientific expert? Absolutely not, it is an excellent example of radical and sensational journalism. Look at Jerry Springer, he has made a career out of it! I hope you do not live by all you hear on T.V. (especially talk shows). I am a soon to be veterinarian and food saftey is stressed in our education. The U.S. has the safest food supply in the world! This is not by luck! All of us know extreme stories of people that ate bacon lard or were vegan and lived too 100. I think it is very interesting that now there are recommedations that a totally unsaturated fat diet is not "healthy" ! This whole thing is a continum and the pendulum swings back and forth. All thing in moderation! As for the resistant antibiotic subject. I had a medical student for a roomate while vet school. We used to sit up at nights discussing antibiotic because in medical school they recieved no formal pharmocology course! We as vets had at least 3 pharmocology courses, and that is not to mention the hours of bacteriology, virology, immunology, etc. I would be skeptical of some so called human doctors that are bought out by human drug companies. Many of the claims by this man are unfounded and quoted out of context. I invite him to work on a well managed dairy farm for one summer and then hear his reply. Walk a mile in my shoes! With all the problems in the world "there are bigger fish to fry" than badgering the public with lies of the Dairy industry. Regards- John Ulrich
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear John,
You have posed at least 20 different philosophical questions but unlike your college friend, I have neither the time nor inclination to spend the night debating such extraneous concepts. Your first comment was "Do you think this man is on the talk shows because he is a scientific expert?" That argument has been successful whenever an adversary can only attack the messenger and not the message. Your arguments are totally without substance. The genetically engineered bovine growth hormone represented the greatest controversy in the history of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). I was the one person in the United States to be invited to discuss these complex biological issues with some brilliant scientific minds at FDA. Do you think that I was invited because I had no credentials?

You, a man of medicine, have chosen to become a veterinarian. You will treat animals. Your friend will treat humans. You are lucky. You can make all of the comments you like and your patients will not talk back to you. If you elect to participate in a dialogue with me, I would appreciate specifics. All you have done is combine innuendo and personal attack with poor cliches. "Walk a mile in my shoes" and "There are bigger fish to fry" combined with "All things in moderation" do not address any of the points I have made about the dangers of drinking body fluids from another species of animal. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Nancy Gray
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Groveton, NH
Time: 1998-01-20 21:26:08
Comments: As a dairy farmer from the North Country of New Hamsphire, I am absolutley appalled by the false statements on your "NOTMILK" page. I have no idea where you got all your information, but 99.9% of it is absolutely false, and you are doing the general public a grave injustice by telling them that what you have printed is the truth about dairy products! What you have written couldn't be farther from the truth!!

Name: Russ Thompson
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-01-20 09:35:59
Comments: Very intetresting web page. You have given me a lot to think about. I read in the guest book where several people said that no other animal drinks milk from another kind of animal. That is not true. I have seen many wolf, coyote, bobcat, and mountain lion kills. The first thing that any of these predators will do is tear into the udder of the animal they killed to get to the milk. I don't know why they do this but it happens time after time.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Russ, I once heard Canadian Naturalist, Farley Mowatt (author of "Never Cry Wolf") address this subject. A predator making the kill is rewarded with the choice cut. To an American, the choice cut is filet mignon or sirloin, no fat. To a wolf it's fat. I have always admitted that milk products taste good. Pilgrim diaries revealed that native-Americans ate rancid butter as their food of choice at the first Thanksgiving. In order to survive in an arctic environment Mowatt carefully collected fat from hundreds of freshly killed mice. Milk coagulates in the stomach of a dead animal. It becomes sour cream, rich and flavorful. Wolves (not to be confused with Wolfs-who keep Kosher) enjoy eating meat and dairy at the same meal. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Edwin Martin
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Alabama dairy farmer
Time: 1998-01-20 08:12:03
Comments: I came in from Dairy-L . Hhmm? I don't have any worthwhile comment
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dairy-L is an INTERNET discussion group. Its members are farmers, college professors, scientists and marketing executives. The individuals on this list are the movers and shakers of the dairy industry. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.
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Name: Kevin Ohland
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-01-20 04:01:35
Comments: In this web page this web page you say the mik will carry a diases, but after doing check up on your resources I found a alot of maybe, could be, might, or uncertainty, which does not vote well for your claim. I am wondering how you can turn a maybe into a will. Unless you a more powerful than the average man it is impossible to turn a maybe into a will. Some of your famous quotes aren't helping you. You misqoute of the bible or you quote of W.C. Field,( who drank more boze that milk)You should wait till there is more facts to help you prove your claim correct. Kevin Ohland (Milk Drinker For Life)
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Kevin, In the King James version of the Bible here is what HEBREWS 5:13 says: "Everyone that useths milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe." Those are the unedited words of wisdom contained in God's book. As for W.C. Fields...that quote was funny, or so I thought. Kevin, W.C. Field was a comic. His job was to make people laugh. In the quote you refer to he said, "My illness is due to my doctor's insistance that I drink milk, a whitish fluid they force down helpless babies." I can understand why such comedy does not induce laughter among lifetime milk drinkers from Wisconsin like you. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Granny Mariani
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Visalia, CA
Time: 1998-01-19 12:15:34
Comments: This is wonderful! I love milk, but have avoided it for years because I have asthma. It is the perfect food...for calves that is! Keep On Keeping On! It's going to take the efforts of ALL of us to get the word out about milk. Good luck in all your endeavors.

Name: Betsy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Cowtown, USA
Time: 1998-01-19 06:29:07
Comments: Moo moo-moo, moo moooooo.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Betsy, I know. I hear your cry and feel your pain. They separate your baby from you at birth and sell its flesh to nourish those who keep you chained to a stall, sleeping in your own excrement, as they inject powerful growth hormones into your rump and antibiotics into your back and directly into your udder. Ouch! They stress your system by having you milked six times a day, 40 quarts of your precious body fluids, pumped into a filter which removes the feces and pus and blood which cakes on your ulcerated udders. They feed you dried blood and ground bones from your brothers and sisters but even that doesn't prevent you from calling upon the calcium from your own bones as you weaken and produce more milk. They milk you until you are sick and cannot produce anymore milk and then they ship you to a slaughterhouse where you are clubbed to death, in fear and pain, sometimes hanging from a meathook while your entrails fall from your body... as you moo your final terrifying thoughts. I cry for you, my bovine friend. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Not Milk Woman
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Wis-COW-Sin
Time: 1998-01-18 02:09:58
Comments: Dearest Robert, It appears that many who sign your guest book are racked with pain and blame you for it. Did you cause their pain? Can any one cause another pain? Isn't pain caused from the soul denying the truth...and when the truth seeps in, one is hurt because of all the time spent in the darkness of lies when the truth was right there waiting to be discovered? That's it. You don't cause them pain...you are just lovingly tearing away the bandages....that they have placed there years ago and forgotten about. The pus is theirs, not yours. That's it. You give away your secret wisdom in your book: milk is not the wonderful source of nutrition it is cracked up to be. I give my wisdom here for free: our feelings are our own. The secret to the ultimate happiness is to accept self responsibility for one's feelings and to seek the truth. Robert can't make any one angry. Ever notice that the same boiling water that softens a carrot (good source of calcium, btw) can also harden an egg. Which will it be? Go in peace, and love one another...God will surely bless you with the truth!

Name: Gail Davis
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Albuquerque, NM
Time: 1998-01-17 21:53:37
Comments: What an impressive website! Thank you for getting the truth out about dairy products. With all those milk mustache ads, people are still being brainwashed into believing that milk is nature's perfect food. May you live long, prosper, and continue spreading this powerful message for the benefit of human health, animal well-being, and the environment.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> I am honored by your comment! Gail Davis is a famous author, having recently written: "SO, NOW WHAT DO I EAT? -- The Complete Guide to Vegetarian Foods." (Blue Coyote Press, P.O. Box 2101, Corrales, NM 87048). I've been "Spocked." Gail...you've repeated the wonderful words of Mr. Spock (the Vulcan from Star Trek) by writing to me, "Live long and prosper." I've been twice "Spocked" because another Spock, Dr. Spock said "Cow's milk in the past has always been oversold as the perfect food, but we are now seeing that it isn't the perfect food at all and the government really shouldn't be behind any efforts to promote it as such." End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Monica H.
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Holyoke, MA
Time: 1998-01-17 21:52:41
Comments: Heard you on the Joey Reynolds show. I've always been a milk lover. However, I've been wondering about milk the past few years. I read an article about Goldie Hawn. She follows a healthy lifestyle and said that she has a dairy-free diet. She didn't get into specifics as to why. She does have a juicer though. I understand that many people choose a dairy-free diet and not because they are intolerant. I'm going to try to learn more about this. Great show. Thanks for the info.

Name: James Brower
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: new jersey
Time: 1998-01-17 14:52:41
Comments: heard you on joey reynolds radio program...great stuff!!
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Thanks, James! I was in the studio from 1:00 AM until 5:00 AM and had a great time doing the show. Joey Reynolds does 100 markets all across America and has the highest rated show in that time slot. I sure enjoyed myself. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: bj
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Kentucky
Time: 1998-01-17 10:30:55
Comments: When I first found your webpage, I was furious with you and these people who believe you. But the more that I think about it, I kind of have to chuckle. You are no threat to me, the dairy farmer. Years after you, your webpage, and your believers are gone, we'll still be "torturing" our cows (or so you believe), drinking our "poisonous" milk, and watching our check arrive in the mailbox. I love being in the dairy business. I love the life, and our cows, too. For anyone to accuse us of torturing them is ridiculous. My cows have names, get fed very well, and occasionally get a scratch behind their ears (they really enjoy that). Oh by the way, we raise tobacco too. I guess you're gonna jump on that next. We're poisoning America twice over.

Name: Roy OEstensen
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Norway
Time: 1998-01-16 00:35:45
Comments: I was quite impressed with this page, and although I've heard some of the arguments before, and therefore been sceptical to milk for many years, many were new to me. The evidence for the dangers of milk have hardly ever been commented on in Norway. As you may know scandinavians are among the most hevy milk-drinkers in the world, and the region also happens to have some of the highest rates of diabetes and osteoporosis. For instance; a newsreport a few days ago commented on the severe difference in the occurence rates of diabetes between the eastern and western parts of Norways capital Oslo. It appears that diabetes is almost non-existent on the eastern side, which is the poorer and mostly inhabited by immigrants. Scientists pointed out a correlation in their data between the rate of infections at early age as a possible explanation. Supposedly many infections as a child may protect against diabetes later! I don't know if there is any medical reasoning behind this, but I suspect that they haven't even considered the well-known fact that average norwegians drink 10 times more milk than average immigrants... PS: I'd like to have a copy of the book. Does your publisher ship overseas, and do they take Visa?
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Yes, my publisher accepts credit cards. They can ship to Norway. Regular surface mail (slowboat) takes about ten days and normal shipping and handling charges, worldwide, are $3 (American). Expedited (3 day) would cost $9--actual postage is $8.40. "MILK-The Deadly Poison" is $24.95. You can write to: ARGUS PUBLISHING: 301 Sylvan Avenue, Englewood Cliffs, NJ. 07632 or FAX an order with credit card information to: 201-599-0338.

For your interest: I had a discussion with a French nutritionist yesterday. She claimed that the French eat a lot of cheese and drink a lot of milk and are still the healthiest people in the world. Well, I told her that in 1994 16.49 American women out of 100,000 died from breast cancer. In the same year that number was greater for France. The French eat more cheese and drink more milk than Americans and 17.79 women out of 100,000 died from breast cancer. Now for the really bad news. The people of Norway drink more milk than even the people of France...ready for the breast cancer rate? It's 17.88 women per 100,000! It could be worse. The Netherlands have a rate of 22.13 breast cancer deaths per 100,000. Let's remember that Dutch milk maid, may she rest in peace, as we learn the truth about the hormones in milk. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Gary Novak
Website: Energy Misdefined in Physics
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: South Dakota
Time: 1998-01-14 21:45:28
Comments: I'm just ordering your book. The preview indicates that it will be quite informative of political machinations corrupting science. Another twist on corrupted science is Leonard Horowitz's book, Emerging Viruses. My twist is the above website showing mathematical proof that energy has been misdefined in physics. I get the same type of criticism that you and Horowitz get. I'm supposed to take a physics course at a local community college, etc.; never specifics.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Gary, Leonard Horowitz, author of EMERGING VIRUSES, has become a friend and ally. Last year he gave me his toll-free number and I called him back and said, "Leonard, guess what your phone number spells?" I figured out the toll-free number for ordering his brilliant book is 1-800-DENY-CON. Well, the government is denying his work and conning us...just the same way many are treating my book.

I've got a catchy number too...1-888-NOT-MILK. When you call my publisher, mention that I said you would get FREE SHIPPING! That offer goes for anybody reading this message...reward enough for browsing through all of the comments on this page!
End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Steve Wylie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Australia
Time: 1998-01-14 11:37:12
Comments: There are many errors in your poorly informed, emotive diatribe. Try reading some Karl Sagen or Dawkins to bring yourself back to how the "mother nature" really works and away from this new age misinformation.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Ah, Carl Sagan (correct spelling), one of my favorites! He wrote that book ("CONTACT") about travelling through black holes in space and meeting aliens...and in his book (not the movie) showed us the existance of God through the formula of pi (3.141592...) by working the number out to billions and billions of places and then configuring a SECRET MESSAGE, from God himself, inside of that number sequence.

Speaking of pi...I am here to dispel that pie-in-the-sky myth that "milk is nature's perfect food."

If you are clever enough to say, "there are many errors in your poorly informed emotive diatribe," then you must be clever enough to find just one error. (Spelling doesn't count!) End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Terry-Lynn
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Canada
Time: 1998-01-12 06:57:56
Comments: Dear Notmilkman, Have you read the article by Dr. Robert Kradjian, 1993...Same information you are providing. Came out 5 years ago and yet the public continues to think milk is the Perfect food... Any ideas how we can counter-act those silly milk moustache ads? #1 supporter ~Terry-Lynn
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Terry-Lynn, I had nearly finished my book when I read Dr. Kradjian's (Author of "Save Yourself From Breast Cancer," Berkley Books, 1994) famous letter to his patients. The good doctor was kind enough to allow me to re-print that letter in its entirety in my book.

Many (in denial) call me a fanatic. I have taken great comfort to have men like Kradjian, Dr. Spock (before his death) and Dr. Neil Barnard (founder of Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine, PCRM, an organization of 6,000 medical doctors) supporting my work. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Chuck Cirino
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Southern California
Time: 1998-01-11 04:29:12
Comments: Wow - these guestbook entries are better viewing than "60 Minutes"! If only some of these dairy addicts would STOP and THINK for a few moments. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put together the mental picture provided by notmilk.com and come up with the only conclusion possible: It is inherently unnatural for one species of animal to ingest milk from another species of animal - especially when the FDA, crooked politicians and big business are involved in the process of delivering it to your supper table! Guestbook comment -->
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Thanks, Chuck. It took you less than 40 words to express the same thing that took me 330 pages and 150,000 words! End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.
Guestbook comment -->

Name: A FAMER
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1998-01-10 10:18:45
Comments: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I HAVE BEN DRINKING MILK EVER SENS I WAS BOIRN AND I AM 85 YEARS OLD AN I AM JUST FINE. THE REASONS THAT ANTIBI ARE RESISTENT ARE THAT THE DOCKTERS ARE OVER PERSCRIBE THEM FORE ANY LITTLE THING, AND THER ARE NO REASON TO BLAME MILK!!! SO GET OFF YOUR HIGH HOURSE AND STOP SAYING THAT MILK IS TO BLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WOLD NOT USE "BGH" IN MY COW EVEN IF YOU PADED ME TO DO IT! SO STOP SAYING THAT ALL FARMERS USE IT! YOU SAY THAT BREST MILK IS BAD FOR YOU,"I HAD IT WHEN I WAS A BABY", MAYBE IF YOU WOULD OF HAD IT WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG MAYBE YOU WOULD NOT BE THIS WAY!!!!! Guestbook comment -->
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear farmer...Whew! You're 85 years old? You have great passion, sir! I wish all people had such spirit and life.
Just to set the record straight...First, antibiotics. Blame it on the doctors? Overprescription? Nonsense! These antibiotics do not work the first time a child takes them. The little boy or girl drinks those antibiotics in milk...doctors are not to blame, although they are easy targets.
As for breastfeeding, we are in agreement! Humans should nurse from their human mothers. Human milk IS nature's perfect food for tiny boys and girls. Cow's milk is nature's perfect food for calves. Dog's milk is nature's perfect food for puppies. Do you see a pattern here?
As far as all milk having rbGH, most of the milk in my region, the New York Metropolitan area, is co-mingled from hundreds of different dairies. Some of the milk comes from cows treated with rbGH. That milk has, on average, over 6,000 nanograms per quart of a powerful growth hormone, IGF-I. Some of the milk comes from cows that have not received shots of the genetically engineered hormone. The milk from those cows has about 3,400 nanograms of IGF-I per quart. You are 85. When you were 69 some scientist working for MONSANTO discovered IGF-1. We didn't even imagine that we drank a pure white fluid containing a powerful growth hormone, identical to the hormone in our own bodies. With all of the years of your knowledge, which I respect, what do we do with this new information? End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.
Guestbook comment -->

Name: a farmer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1998-01-09 06:05:18
Comments: no farmer can ship milk that has antbi in it and ther is a lot of farmes who dont use bgh!!!! i dont know of enny dairy plants that take bgh milk for flued. you have better chance of being killed buy a ufo. then buy milk!!!! Guestbook comment -->
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Farmer, You are correct about antibiotics. No farmer can ship milk exceeding the "SAFE" levels of antibiotics standard established by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in Washington, D.C. Milk must conform to a "safe" range, otherwise it is rejected.

In 1990 if the milk from your cows had more than one part per hundred-million of antibiotic residues it would be unsafe. That year FDA changed the standard to one part per million. They increased the levels of antibiotics by 100 times. They can still say that the milk is well within the safe levels. What few people are aware of is that they increased the standard. Nearly forty percent of what the average American eats comes from milk and dairy products. Our foods are loaded with antibiotics. That's why antibiotics no longer work when we need them. A few years back the Wall Street Journal and Consumers Reports independently tested milk samples in the New York area. Average samples contained 52 different antibiotic residues. Is this what you really want your children and my children to drink? End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.
Guestbook comment -->

Name: Ben Ravenn
Website: House of the HIDDEN TONGUE
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Raleigh, NC
Time: 1998-01-09 04:04:25
Comments: Hell yeah! Milk sucks. Unhealthy, cruel... just not worth it. Vegan Power!

Name: Don Giacomazzi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Hanford, CA USA
Time: 1998-01-08 14:19:49
Comments: How interesting that I find you on the most Popular Dairy Web Site in the world, -- http://www.moomilk.com/ spreading your constant Lies, and false statements. For those of you who are really interested in the truth, just surt on over to http://www.moomilk.com/ Don Giacomazzi, -- a Dairyman from California.

Name: Kendra Bates
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Oklahoma
Time: 1998-01-08 09:13:30
Comments: When you eliminate milk from the diet of a child. What do you cook with? Do you provide cheese? How do you meet the child's nutritional needs? Guestbook comment -->
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> I recently debated this subject with Nutritionist, Edith Hogan on a nationally tevevised segment of FOX ON HEALTH. Hogan said that milk supplied 9 basic nutrients. FOX must have agreed. They kept showing a written message (called CHYRON) on the TV screen when I spoke which repeated the "9 essential nutrient" message. There are 28 different amino acids. The human liver manufactures 19 of them. That leaves 9 essential amino acids which we must get from food. Those nine are tryptophan, valine, phenylalanine, methionine, threonine, leucine isolsucine, lysine and histadine. If you combine brown rice and beans you're going to get all of these essential amino acids. I used to shop at my local supermarket and if it wasn't in a box I didn't want to eat it! That was two years and one- hundred pounds ago! Today my four basic food groups are 1) Fruits 2) Grains 3) Legumes and 4) Vegetables. Occasionally our family eats chicken or fish. We are not vegetarians. Rarely do we eat meat. However, our refrigerator, freezer and cupboards are filled with a great variety of healthy and delicious foods. We know that if a food has been processed in a factory and stored in a steel or aluminum can or cardboard box, it's not going to taste as wonderful as foods freshly prepared. Try this experiment. Take one clove of garlic, 1 shallot, the equivalent amount of three different onions, three or four different peppers, fresh cilantro, fresh parsley... then mince and sautee everything in a few tablespoons of olive oil and before it browns add water, bring to a boil and cook rice as you normally would. Then serve this heavenly dish alongside anything that you could possibly find in a box or a can...compare the taste, texture, and imagine the health benefits from cooking and eating fresh foods! End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.
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Name: Wayne
Website: Jersey Mountain
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1998-01-07 01:45:15
Comments: I may not be very old, but i have heard and seen a lot of crazy things and this is the biggest piece of BS that I have ever seen. MILK, BUTTER, CHEESE, etc. FROM COWS NEVER DID, DOSE NOT, OR NEVER WILL KILL ANYONE. I must admit that milk is not perfect, but NOTHING IS PERFECT. My entire family eats lots of milk, cheese, butter, and other dairy products. They have probally already have lived longer than you will live. I have a great-grandma who is 98 years old and my grandpa is 73 years old and he still runs a dairy farm, he eats lots of cheese and butter, FROM COWS, HE IS IN VERY GOOD HEALTH. Because of you many people are losing their faimlies, (in hard times even farm families break up) jobs, houses, AND ALL THAT THEY HAVE WORKED FOR. Why don't you do something important and try to stop abortions. LIVE LONG, EAT CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Kevin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Mid-Missouri
Time: 1998-01-06 23:37:18
Comments: I just love the way your rebuttals politely make fools of these uneducated cow-killers when they tell you that you have your facts wrong. All they can do is cite quotations from dairy commercials or throw out some sloppy "homegrown" logic. It's obvious to me that you have spent an enormous amount of time researching the topic and I believe you could refute all their arguments in your sleep. Keep it up. I doubt you'll ever convince these blockheads to change their eating habits, but it makes for interesting reading to people like me.

Name: Alexia
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From:
Time: 1998-01-05 23:01:23
Comments: My husband, Chuck, found you and we are really happy you've created this web site. We've been dairy free for 4+ years and are much healthier because of it, and thinner too. Our baby is almost 2 and he's never had milk or cheese -- what a great way to start out. He's healthy, his teeth all came in earlier than his milk drinking counterparts and he's a big boy. Thanks again. We'll get the book. I only wish I could convince my milk drinking aunt to consider the possibilities. She had the nerve to write me a letter while I was pregnant to tell me that I was causing damage and harm to myself and my baby by not drinking milk. It took us a long time to get over that one. She's had an inner ear infection (Menur's disease (spelling?) for years and refuses to even consider the possibility that the massive quantity of low quality (Costco) milk she drinks could be the cause. She still tries to feed me cheese whenever I eat at her house - unbelievable. Anyway, I also wanted to let you know that you have a typo error in the bullet points -- parathyroid is missing the "y" -- gotta look perfect to the other side, right!! The part of the message about my aunt can be shown in the comments but I made it private about the typo.

Name: Chuck Cirino
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Los Angeles
Time: 1998-01-05 22:24:53
Comments: This is a heroic site and it's about time someone did it. I 'got off' diary four years ago. My weight dropped 10 pounds immediately and my sinuses cleared up fast. The only problem I have now is when I accidentally get 'dosed' when I go out to eat -- that's when I either get a stomach ache or a cold or a flu. Thanks for this wonderful site which I hope will educate others and put the Dairy Nazis (not the hard working farmer, who is the "backbone" of America but the FDA regulators and scientists who have betrayed us) where they belong - out of our lives and broke!

Name: Cara Giacomazzi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Agriculture Teacher
Time: 1998-01-05 09:23:19
Comments: Be sure to post this for others to read:Your web site shows one way to look at it, but then again breathing is dangerous too!!! Air is not pure, it contains many things that are unnatural and harmful to your body. . Milk on the other hand is natural and is helpful to your body. Should a woman not breast feed her child??? It too contains the same things you mention in your website. Good try, but I think your "facts" are also scewed. I think that anyone can find something negative to say in everything that exists. Why not put your efforts into something more productive to society, find a cure for AIDS or something else more beneficial. I think I will stick to drinking milk, because you know, "It does a body good", and it has for many, many years. Resepectfuly, a dairymans daughter, and a HEALTHY, LIVING MILK DRINKER!!!!!   Guestbook comment -->
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Cara, Of course! A woman should breastfeed her infant. That IS nature's perfect food. Do you still drink human breast milk? It is appropriate for infants to drink the milk from their mothers. Infants need the immunological factors, the lactoferins and immunoglobulins specially designed by a wise mother nature. A human baby must double her weight in three months. A baby calf must gain 500 pounds in six months. Enormous growth for the infant is critical. Such weight gains are not appropriate for adults. Milk from any species of animal contains growth hormones that send cellular messages...GROW, GROW GROW!!! We have only recently identified the most powerful growth hormone in cow's milk as insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1). This hormone is the only hormone in all of nature identical between two species of animal. Human IGF-1 and bovine IGF-I both contain 70 amino acids in the same gene sequence. Thousands of things cause cancer but only one makes it grow in the human body. That one thing is IGF-1. Every cancer researcher knows this. What they (still) do not know is that the two hormones are identical. By what other route do we inject or orally ingest this hormone? None. Milk from cows was called "NATURE'S PERFECT FOOD" long before this hormone was identified. Pasteurization does NOT affect this hormone. I know how strongly you feel about this. I offer you truth and sometimes denial of truth and anger at truth is a normal response.
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.
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Name: william andres
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: tennessee
Time: 1998-01-04 09:48:46
Comments: very interesting BUT I hope you like water with your corn pops in the morning!!
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear William,
Little round corn-meal balls filled with sugar, wheat starch, salt and high fructose corn syrup, not to mention calcium carbonate, trisodium phosphate, MSG and aspartame) do not thrill me as they did three years ago. Sure, they're shot out of cannons by elves and are easy to prepare...but breakfast has become a lot more fun around my house since giving up those expensive and non-nutritious candied grain substitutes. I now throw flour and yeast and honey into the breadmachine each morning at 5:00 AM and serve fresh fruit, sometimes soup, salads, etc. to my family. You know what? We really don't miss those cereal treats. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Shana Holland
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Denver, Colorado
Time: 1998-01-04 06:13:54
Comments: You don't seem like you're pro-cow at all. What you say is very interesting, but I need more proof. I'm usually very easily convinced, but saying that milk is bad is a big step. I need a little more evidence before I can agree wtih you. You might be on something though. If you find anymore evidence, keep me updated; I'm interested in knowing the truth.

Name: Rebecca Miller
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Warsaw, Indiana
Time: 1998-01-03 19:27:19
Comments: Very thought-provoking... I am pregnant and was told by my midwife that I needed to be consuming at least six servings a day of dairy products. Do you think this is harming my baby?? (I am 6 months along). Do you recommend getting calcium from whole foods or herbal products instead??

Name: David Jones
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Omaha, NE
Time: 1998-01-02 17:38:57
Comments: My wife and I both have milk allergies. I would have several headaches per week and sinus attacks so bad I had to leave work. Now we never have headaches or sinus attacks (since we cut out milk). If people only knew what milk is doing to them, I think there would be a huge market for alternatives to milk. We appreciate your web page. Dave

Name: Lisa Holmes
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Illinois
Time: 1998-01-01 00:47:23
Comments: What a crock of cowsh--. It is because of people like you that the dairy farmers are suffering. Find someone else's livelyhood to ruin.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Lisa, Thanks for the crock of cowsh--. It can be used to help those poor tobacco growers in South Carolina who have been hurt by folks like me. Perhaps the poor poppy growers in Mexico can use some of your fertilizer...they've been hurt too. While you're at it, please send a bag to those poor hard working cocaine growers in the mountains of Peru. The farmers and their families deserve much better! End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Jaan Suurkula
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-12-31 20:11:39
Comments: Dear Robert, Many thanks for your book. Your most important and very interesting book almost ruined a nights sleep as I could not stop reading it. I first skimmed it when i obtained it. In the Christmas holiday I read it more carefully. One question. - Will boiling dissolve the homogenization microglobuli? What other effects might boiling have. You mention that Enzymes are destroyed. Might it not also destroy some of the hormoones? Kindest regards and Happy New Year Jaan

Name: Heather
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-12-30 20:10:42
Comments: Has anyone ever seen a cow and had an irresistible urge to go and suck on its mammary glands (a.k.a. udder)? Mmmmmmm...

Name: Jennifer
Website: Concerned? You Should Be!
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Ontario, Canada
Time: 1997-12-29 07:05:51
Comments: This is some SCARY stuff, Robert!!! If this is true then what should one do, by not drinking milk, wouldn't one become addicted to these chemicals? Would it explaing why there has been an increase in mental faculties breaking down? Thank you very much for sharing this with the rest of us! Gosh, I am freaked just thinking about this! I am off to follow a couple of the links you have posted! Keep up the work! Peace! Hugs to you!

Name: Sara
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Seattle
Time: 1997-12-27 08:17:20
Comments: If you think milk is scary, check out Genetically Engineered vegetables -- Some of these can be found labeled "organic" in your supermarket -- check out http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-18472/indexeng.htm

Name: dave a.k.a. ooloo
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-12-27 07:40:23
Comments: I was guest # 5411 -- That's not enough! Everyone needs to hear this stuff!

Name: Toasty
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: WV
Time: 1997-12-25 22:41:40
Comments: What are you nuts? Milk a killer eh? I think you just got dropped in a pool of milk and have hated it since. For some reason (maybe the fact I am sane and you don't seem to be) I don't believe this.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Hmmm...Your name is toasty and you're calling me insane? Methinks you've been in the oven a bit too long! My advice to you, Toasty, is to go easy on the butter! End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Steve Hignett
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Manchester, England
Time: 1997-12-18 14:34:49
Comments: Jobs for the boys or what? As Raymond Chandler once wrote, 'Police work and politics calls for people of the highest calibre...but makes do with what it gets.' Not completely relevant to these incidents but you know what I'm getting at.
NOTE FROM THE NOTMILKMAN:
insert comments after this --> I know what you're getting at! Why is it that not one out of 500,000 weekly readers of SCIENCE was able to identify the enormous scientific fraud? When I read the article bells began to ring. FDA told America that milk with genetically engineered proteins was safe because pasteurization destroyed these hormones. Not accepting such GOSPEL, I reviewed the actual research. These scientists??? pasteurized the milk by heating it for 30 minutes at 162 degrees Fahrenheit. Normal protocol called for 15 seconds at that temperature, not 30 minutes! Even so...they only destroyed 19 percent of the powerful hormone, yet, they convinced congress and all Americans that all of the hormone was destroyed. We should have better investigators and representatives! If not for my book...and my investigation...they would have gotten away with it! End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.

Name: Lillie Love
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: atlanta
Time: 1997-12-13 10:02:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I was just thinking about giving up dairy and your site convinced me to go ahead and do it. Thanks!

Name: Kevin
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-12-13 07:23:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Enjoy your soy.

Name: toni
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: right here
Time: 1997-12-07 22:02:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I must agree with you milk is bad stuff, people insist that it is just SOOOO good for you, I'm glad to see someone who dissagrees as well...

Name: David Weber
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Oklahoma
Time: 1997-12-07 17:33:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I became diabetic at age twenty-five. The diabetes literature makes some references to a possible link between cow's milk and diabetes. But of course doctors are into treating diseases, and are not interested in food. If you would do clinical testing to prove that cow's milk is the cause of diabetes, and stop the spread of diabetes, you would receive the Noble prize....
COMMENT FROM THE NOTMILKMAN:
insert comments after this --> A study at the University of Helsinki (Virtanen, Aro. "Dietary factors in the etiology of diabetes," Ann. Med. Dec. 1994, 26 (6), pp. 469-478) revealed that early introduction of cow's milk in babies 3 months of age or younger often resulted in complete insulin deficiency. This pathology occurred because naturally occurring beta cells were destroyed by the infant's allergic reaction created in response to the presence of cow milk proteins. Scientists in Italy noted similar effects after analyzing data from diabetic children. Their conclusion indicated an absolute cause and effect relationship between milk consumption and diabetes. (Fava, et. al., "Relationship between dairy product consumption and the incidence of IDDM in childhood in Italy." Diabetes Care, December, 1994, 17 (12), pp 1488-1490. Researchers at the University of Colorodo published a paper in the July-August, 1994 issue of the Journal of Endocrinology Investigations which identified a bovine albumin peptide as a trigger of insulin-dependent diabetes mellitu. (Norris and Pietropaolo. J. Endocrinological Invest.17(7), 1488-1490.) Early exposure to cow's milk was linked to the development of diabetes in a carefully controlled rat experiment by scientists in Canada. They linked early exposure to bovine proteins in both rodents and humans as the cause of diabetes mellitus. Their work was published in the February 1994 issue of the Journal of Immunology. These above studies are examples of research that the Dairy Industry prefers you NOT read. The more knowledge you gain, the less ignorant you become. Ignorance is NOT bliss. Ignorance can be damned unhealthy! Armed with such facts, would you expose your infant to cow's milk? After recognizing the fact that bovine proteins cause the body to react by producing antibodies which destroy insulin-producing beta cells, do you think that it is wise to drink body fluids containing hormones from another species of creature??? The hormones work. If you choose to believe FDA (who assures us that the hormones in milk do not work) you play with a powerful loaded gun. If you elect to review the scientific evidence, then you arm yourself with ammunition which will protect you. End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.
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Name: James Turner
Website: swankin-turner.com
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Washington D.C.
Time: 1997-12-03 06:43:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Hi Robert, I'm intrested in obtaining a copy of your book. It looks good and fits what my kids pediatrician told us so many years ago. Jim Turner..........
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> When 10,000 doctors graduate from medical school the absolute best doctor and the worst doctor are both handed their diplomas and told the same thing: "Congratulations, Doctor." Sounds to me as if you got one of the "good ones!" End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.
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Name: KARI
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: UTAH
Time: 1997-11-27 10:16:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm-->I understand why the people in the dairy industry are so angry with you. They are hard workers and some of the very best people in the world. What you are saying is very harsh and goes against everything we have been taught for years. They feel threatened by the things you are saying. They don't want to believe that they are contributing (even unknowingly) to the harm of others. Their livelihoods hinge on whether or not people believe you. It is unfortunate that it has to be that way, however, what you are saying is true. Even if you took milk from a "pure" cow who had never been injected with anything and had lived a happy life, it would still not be appropriate for human consumption. It just isn't meant to be. We need to have trust in the good Lord above who has given us EVERYTHING we need to be healthy - from the earth! WE DON'T NEED TO CONSUME ANIMAL PRODUCTS TO BE HEALTHY! My husband and I found you by way of an old dairy farmer who realized all of this! We've been reading your book and appreciate your irreverance! We've been dairy-free for two months now and are feeling great! Keep up the good work Robert! Oh, by the way, a little note to Nick Fisher from PA - I've met Robert. His ass really isn't fat at all!

Name: Kevin Jeffreys
Website:
Referred by: From LinkExchange
From: Mid Missouri
Time: 1997-11-25 22:10:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I find it interesting that the majority of the opposing views come from dairy farmers and others who earn a living off of the pain and suffering of innocent animals. Hey dairy farmers, what do you think happens to all of those drugs you pump into those animals. Do you think they just evaporate into the air? Quit lying to yourselves and more importantly quit lying to us!!!!!!! Even if someone could proove that bovine milk is good for humans, does it then make it OK to torture cows for this milk. And don't try to tell me that your processes are not tortorous; imagine the same processes being done to your mother and then tell me it's not torture.

Name: Lisa Elliott
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: Houston
Time: 1997-11-20 13:14:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I LOVE MILK!

Name: dairy farmer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: PA
Time: 1997-11-18 23:05:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I would like to know where you get your facts. As a dairy farmer and former PA dairy princess, I can assure you that what you are saying does not have a bit of truth behind it. I am able to realize that what you are saying is false but I feel sorry for the people who actually believe this nonsense. Milk contains many vitamins and essential nutrients that are needed by the body daily. I have been drinking milk all my life and I certanly will not stop just because you have fabricated these lies about milk- nature's most perfect food!

Name: Brady Meeds
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Ohio
Time: 1997-11-18 09:08:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->hello

Name: Tamara
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Canada
Time: 1997-11-18 04:48:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Now those crazy milk people are putting annoying stickers on my BANANAS saying "GOT MILK" - how annoying! I feel like sending them making my own stickers: "GOT A BRAIN?". A lot of people dismiss anti-dairy messages because they are too lazy to make a healthy change to their diets. Hey, I'm human too! I still crave a nice chunk of cheese now and then - but at least I know what I'm putting in my body when I do indulge!

Name: wendell
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Greater Boston Area
Time: 1997-11-16 08:35:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Mr. Cohen, thank you for enlightening all of us in regards to milk/milk products and hormones. Hopefully milk producers change their ways! We produce a online health newsletter, sharing health products, events, news & more with our internet readers. Could we publish "online" your statistics and/or health updates you would like to share at our site?

Name: joan
Website: WENDELLCENTER SERVING THE BOSTON AREA AND THE WEB
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Boston Area
Time: 1997-11-16 08:04:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Mr. Cohen, heard you this evening & asked the question regarding the hormone level in nonfat dehydrated milk, on the WRKO radio health talk show. Would the process used to produce nonfat dry milk also delete the antibiotics?

Name: Regelman
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Mass.
Time: 1997-11-16 03:48:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I am lactose intolorent. Ever since I stopped drinking milk my allergies have dissappeared and my Ashma has nearly dissappeared.

Name: monica - AIRPLANE DOC
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-11-16 02:15:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->GREETINGS ROBERT! I AM GIVING ALL OF THIS INFO SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. IT'S VERY SCARY STUFF EVEN IF ONLY HALF OF IT WERE TRUE!

Name: Avid milk drinker
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-11-14 23:46:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I beleive your information is incorrect. I am from a dairy farm, and as a former dariy princess, I can't believe the things you have on your web page. You are mis-informing the public about the importance of dairy products in their daily diets. Get a Life and worry about more important things that are ruining the environment!!!

Name: C. J.
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Miami, Florida
Time: 1997-11-14 22:00:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Bravo to you!! When are people going to wise up and realize that eating animal products is unhealthy for humans and the planet? When people are less concerned about money and more concerned about Life. Keep up the good work. I support your views.

Name: Brandi
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Glasgow, Kentucky
Time: 1997-11-14 07:07:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Mr. Cohen, if all you have to do with your time is write nonsense like this and post it for others to read, then you need to get a life. I am married to a dairy farmer and drink milk every day. You could not begin to know how hard we work every day just to earn a living. I am a Senior at WKU and majoring in agriculture. I know that your information is not factual because of my college education and also from common sense as a dairy person. Our cows send me to school, put food on our table, and put clothes on our backs. I surely hope that these people out there do not take you seriously. Your "believers" can come visit my dairy any day and see the truth for themselves. P.S. Did those aliens tell you this nonsense when they took you to their mother ship?

Name: DONNA MEDOFF
Website: DR.SANDRA: CABOT THE LIVER DOCTOR
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: ARIZONA
Time: 1997-11-13 02:09:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->It was great speaking with you today. I will put a copy of Sandra's book in the mail to you tomorrow. I'll gather up the rest of the info we spoke about and send it off to you ASAP.

Name: Charles L. Jarowski
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: New York City (Manhattan)
Time: 1997-11-12 06:36:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->hi. i love the concept of this page! i was actually thinking of making a similar page but now i dont have to! i have constuctive critisism for you though. you could say more about each problem with milk to be more convincing. also, you should be clear that the PROTEIN in milk blocks the absorbtion or calcium! milk is a horrible product. i only read the index page so far but most people only do so you should definately expand it a little. good luck! i will tell my friends to come to this page!

Name: Kurt Curtis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 1997-11-11 09:50:00
Comments: I find it hard to believe how gulible Americans have become. Milk is as perfect of a food as we've dicovered. I realize that many people have no farm background. For you people I have one question I would like to ask. When was the last time you met a farmer who didn't drink milk or eat meat? If there is anyone who knows what goes into these products wouldn't you think it would be the farmer. If milk was not safe I would not drink it. I have milked cows and raised all kinds of livestock. I have no fear of using these products. If you feel that milk is not good for you that is your choice but don't think it is bad for you because someone told you that on the internet. As far as the education of Mr. Cohen I don't know where he went to school but I am a student at an agricultural college and I've never heard of half these facts. Feel free to email me if you have any questions if I can't answer them I'll find one of my professors who can.
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> DEAR KURT, ON PAGE 220 OF MY BOOK I CITE ROBERT KRADJIAN, MD, WHO INFORMS US THAT BOVINE LEUKEMIA VIRUS IS FOUND IN MORE THAN THREE OF FIVE DAIRY COWS FOUND IN THE UNITED STATES! IN ONE STUDY OF RAW MILK SAMPLES, BOVINE LEUKEMIA VIRUS WAS FOUND TO EXIST IN TWO-THIRDS OF THE RANDOMLY COLLECTED SAMPLES. THIS STUDY WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PRESTIGIOUS JOURNAL, SCIENCE. IOWA, NEBRASKA, SOUTH DAKOTA, MINNESOTA AND WISCONSIN HAVE STATISTICALLY HIGHER INCIDENCES OF LEUKEMIA THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. IN RUSSIA AND SWEDEN AREAS WITH UNCONTROLLED BOVINE LEUKEMIA VIRUS HAVE BEEN LINKED WITH INCREASES IN HUMAN LEUKEMIA...DAIRY FARMERS HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY ELEVATED LEUKEMIA RATES. RECENT RESEARCH SHOWS THAT LYMPHOCYTES FROM MILK FED TO NEONATAL MAMMALS GAINS ACCESS TO BODILY TISSUES BY PASSING DIRECTLY THROUGH THE INTESTINAL WALL. I ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF "HALF OF MY FACTS." READ MY BOOK...SHARE IT WITH YOUR PROFESSORS! End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.
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Name: Job Matusow
Website: The Stringless Yo Yo
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Glenwood, Utah
Time: 1997-11-10 08:33:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Would like to get an E Mail address for Dr. Cohen...we met yesterday at the conference in Ogden Utah... I'm here to serve this worthy cause, and want to make my Tv station in Central Utah available for screening as much material as we can for TV... check my home page, it will fill you in. When you get to it, click in on SALT LAKE TRIBUNE, directly under the color photo of me as a clown, it will pull up the recent two page article which the tribune did on our work... Blessings, Job Matusow

Name: Jesse Parker-Hobson
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Florida
Time: 1997-11-08 20:59:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Thanks for sending me your book. I am anxious to read it all. I will certainly use it as a reference in my book under the section The Food We Eat. I am going to refer you to Dr. Dorman. He may like to interview you on his radio show in the future. I will also show your book to Ann Varnum on WTVY -TV Morning Show. I will have some questions for you about anti aging medicine and the use of human growth hormone when I read more of your book. Thanks again-I'll be in touch and tell others about your book.

Name: Eileen Pagan
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Gaithersburg, MD
Time: 1997-11-08 03:17:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I checked out the why milk web site and got ill. I am glad this site exists! I am on my own campaign to enlighten fellow parents, their kids my family, etc. about the harm done by cows milk. Somehow, I will get this agenda into my kids school as I am volunteering to be a guest speaker in any class on nurtrition, food in different cultures (Asian diets compared to American and their health, etc. I look forward to buying the book "Deadly Poison"- If I won the lottery- I always say I would buy air time on T.V. to counter the dairy lies. Can't we form a coalition against their insidious campaign?

Name: Jim Scarborough
Website: Jim's Dull Page
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Huntsville, AL
Time: 1997-11-07 12:44:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->While I'm sure the claims here have some merit, so do the claims in the following article of which I was reminded almost immediately: Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide! The Invisible Killer Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death. Dihydrogen monoxide: * is also known as hydroxl acid, and is the major component of acid rain. * contributes to the "greenhouse effect." * may cause severe burns. * contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape. * accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals. * may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes. * has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients. Contamination Is Reaching Epidemic Proportions! Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California. Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used: * as an industrial solvent and coolant. * in nuclear power plants. * in the production of styrofoam. * as a fire retardant. * in many forms of cruel animal research. * in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical. * as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products. Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer! The Horror Must Be Stopped! The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use. It's Not Too Late! Act NOW to prevent further contamination. Find out more about this dangerous chemical. What you don't know can hurt you and others throughout the world.
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Name: Dave Shishkoff
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Victoria, BC
Time: 1997-11-07 10:51:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK--> I look up to a man. His name is Felix. He is a well respected person. He also has a lot of influence in our society. Now Felix has a job to do, and in order to do it he needs staff. So he goes out and finds a few good workers. There are magazines and other companies out there that specialize in workers. During the last fifty/sixty years they've found some of the best people in the world who can work most efficiently. So Felix hires a few of these people, and gets them working for his new company. At first they're great, they get the job done quite quickly and with little trouble. Felix treats them well, gives them a place to stay and all the food they can eat. They get lots of fresh air and are moderately happy. Now Felix gets an idea on how they could be more productive and keeps his workers inside more, where he can monitor them more easily, and deal with the slackers more quickly. Felix's product's however are booming! Sales are on the increase, more and more people want it! So Felix has to supply this demand and hires more workers. Everything is going great. After a while, the demand catches up to his increased supply, so he thinks about how he can streamline even more. His workers could surely provide more production if he altered the surroundings a bit. So he closes off all the windows, since the workers tend to waste time staring out them. He makes smaller offices and hires even more workers from the magazine suppliers. After this change production increases even more! He is thrilled to no end! The money is pouring in like never before! Felix decides that this is just the beginning. He knows he can take his company somewhere! He decides to compress the offices even more, adding more people to each stall, sometimes they're so tight they can hardly move, but this provides more workers producing more product! Expenses are also on the increase. Food and toilet paper for all these people in becoming quite expensive, so cheaper food is researched. It is soon found that any defective products that they'd normally throw out created can actually be used for food, so the whole menagerie is recycled! Another problem with so many people cramped together is stuffyness..and with this sickness.. The workers seem to be getting sicker more frequently.. This closed workspace is not very sanitary, and diseases are spread quite easily.. Felix could expand his factory, but that would be quite expensive, and he likes the productiveness of all these workers together.. So he vies for option two. Medicine. He starts giving all his workers injections, and adding more substances to the food to make his workers more productive.. Heck, it works in other factories, why not here?!? Again, another rise in production! The workers seem less ill, and the sheer numbers are producing record amounts of his product! So I'm talking to Felix one day, and I'm interested in his project. He has a very efficient company, producing way more then it should. I was interested in this. I wanted to be an elite member of this exclusive team. "Felix," I say, "I'm wondering if I can join your team! These must be incredible people you have working for you, they all work so hard for you!" Felix looks at me and laughs. "What are you talking about? Why would you want to work for me?" I look up at Felix, a little embaressed. "Well Felix, right now I'm working at a grocery store, but I want to work for you! For all the money you make, you're workers must be paid quite well, and I sure could use the cash for when I go to school!" Felix doubles over in laughter. "What?!? You want to make money working for me?!? I don't pay any of those workers!!!! Why should I pay them? I feed them. I give them a place to stay. I give them medicine. Why should I pay them anything?!?" I felt confused now.. Felix didn't pay the workers anything? All they got was cheap, unhealthy food and cramped spaces..for all that work they do? "This must be some kind of joke Felix!" "Kid, this ain't no joke. Those workers cost me a fortune to buy. They're the best of the best. I'm not putting any more out for them then I have to. I got a family of my own to keep." I was standing there in a total state of dismay.. "What are you saying Felix? You know what this sounds like to me? This sounds like you have slaves!! Not workers!" Felix grew angry at this. "Listen kid, what do you know about this industry, huh? We got bills to pay, products to supply to the public. Why don't you run home now and play with your lego." I respect Felix. It really takes guts to run a slave operation in broad daylight like this. How he can condemn billions of non-human animals to dreadful conditions and dare face anyone, let alone look in the mirror in the morning. Felix has incredible denseness, and I'm in awe of his ability to bottle up his feelings of guilt, hide them away like they almost don't even exist. Of his ability to be so inhumane. If I had these heartless and ruthless attributes, I too could enslave animals, and torture them to no end and supply them to the public as "food". Felix is a *real* man.

Name: Paul Weber
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Missouri
Time: 1997-11-07 07:47:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Your take on the dairy industry in interesting. I grew up on a dairy farm in the late 60's and early 70's, though I now no longer have any link to the industry. It is interesting that you find so much hazard with something like drinking milk. Of all the great hazards we all face in the world around us, drinking milk has been pretty low on my list of concerns. Yes, milk does have some detectable contaminants, like all processed foods we consume. Everytime time you eat a slice of bread, you are likely consuming some ground up insect parts and feces. Nearly half of the chicken bought at the store is contaminated with salmonella. Of course, contaminated hamburger has been in the news quite a bit lately. I guess that's why our distant ancestors first came up with the idea of cooking meat. With the advances in technology we are now able to detect any substance in parts per billion or trillion. Antibiotics or pesticides can now be detected in any final product, including fruits and vegetables. The only way to insure contaminate-free food is to grow it yourself. The question is "Are these substances harmful at these levels". So far, little evidence is available that they are. Obviously, anyone with allergies or other reactions to dairy products should not consume them. However, humans have consumed these products for millenia with generally little detrimental effect. In fact, dairy products have been a major source of healthful nutrients far exceeding the risks you detail. I do have concerns about the use of BGH, but more from a soci- economic standpoint with regard to the impact its use has on small dairy producers. Overuse of antibiotics is also a significant concern with the appearance of resistant bacteria. I agree more attention needs to be afforded to prophylactic use of antibiotics in farm animals, as this could translate directly into resistance of human-borne pathogens. Yes, milk does contain fats and other less healthful constiuents. We americans tend to over consume many things - moderation is much too absent from our behavioral tendencies. Throw in petroleum products and our urges to consume for today, while tomorrow be damned. Just the simple stress we create for each other going about our daily routines creates tremendous stress factors for our health (ex, road rage, workplace violence, etc.). Dairy farms can have significant detrimental impact on the environment. Having grow up on one, I know this for a fact. However, any industry can also have a detrimental impact. Proper management of animal wastes with existing technology can solve this problem, as it has with many other industries. We must only have the will and fortitude to use the technology and sanction those who will not. Would you rather we consume our soil resource to grow corn for ethanol to burn in our sport utility vehicle making multiple trips to the grocery store around the corner? In summary, for the average person, there are much, much greater risks out there to worry about than that of consuming dairy products. I do appreciate your effort to raise concerns and exercise an important first amendment right to express your views and concerns. Respectfully, Paul Weber

Name: DAIRY FARMERS OF ONTARIO/CONCERNED CITIZEN
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: ONTARIO, CANADA
Time: 1997-11-07 01:13:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->OK ASH_LE, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TELLING THE WORLD THAT BOVINE MILK IS GOING TO KILL THEM. I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS ON BOVINE MILK. MY OPINON IS BACKED BY A OUTSTANDING NUMBER A DAIRY FARMERS IN ONTARIO CANADA, ALONG WITH PROFESSORS AND STUDENTS ATTENDING UNIVERSITY OF GUELPH / RIDGETOWN COLLEGE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE OF THESE ALLOCATIONS YOU PRESENT IN YOUR WEB PAGE ARTICLE. WE FEEL THAT YOUR ARTICLE SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE INTERNET UNTIL SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE CAN BACK IT. SINCE THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS VULNERABLE TO WRONGFUL INFORMATION, WE BELEIVE THE PUBLIC IS BEING MISINFORMED; REGARDING THE ISSUE OF DRINKING BEER IN PLACE OF MILK. ALTHOUGH THIS IS ARTICLE BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING ISSUE; YOU HAVE PRESENTED A HUGE AMOUNT OF 'BULL SH_T', THEREFORE, GET THIS F__KING SH_T OFF THE G@D DAMN NET !!!!! WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE TO HOOK YOUR MOTHER UP THE MILKING MACHINE TO HAVE A GLASS OF MILK.

Name: Susie
Website:
Referred by: From www.GuestWorld.com
From: Louisiana
Time: 1997-11-06 19:58:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->After reading the information provided pertaining to milk,, I find myself agreeing to every issue arising from the injestion of milk. Common sense, along with understanding and study, are helpful while soaking in the details you have provided, and now I am wondering what to give my husband for his late night glass of liquid. In addition, I now know why milk has always been something intolerable for me in any shape or form. I must admit I had suspicions, the same as eating beef. Now that I am chemically sensitive, I do not eat beef in any form, never consumed milk for as long as I can remember, and think of the combination of milk and feed for the cattle. I trust you will keep my enrollment and messages confidential forever. Your hard work is greatly appreciated. Best of luck, Susie

Name: Adam
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 1997-11-06 04:38:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->You should check out a book called "No Milk" by Danial A. Twogood. You'll like it.

Name: JB
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: USA
Time: 1997-11-05 00:14:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Considering that almost half the folks on the planet are lactose-intolerant, it would seem logical that they stop using dairy products. Instead they choose to take drugs to allow them to consume these unhealthy (for humans) products. When I stopped using dairy, about half my allergies disappeared; I later learned this is quite common, and that many infants and children cannot tolerate dairy. Why do people continue using dairy products? Because the government supports the dairy industry...which in turn supports the government (or at least politicians). Drinking the excretions of another animal is pretty unappetizing, too -- perhaps that's why humans are the only animal that does this. Milk drinkers jeopardize their own health, their children's health, and the health of this planet (through bovine waste materials and overuse of resources). Your message is timely, informative, and important. But if people are unwilling to give up things as obviously dangerous as tobacco, drugs, and alcoholic overindulgence, then I hold little hope that the message of the ill effects of milk/dairy, which has been sold as a "wholesome" product for so long, will affect many people.

Name: Michael
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Denver
Time: 1997-11-04 21:09:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->"You know, cow's milk IS the perfect food--for baby cows. Human milk is made for humans. I don't see why people need to get so emotional about wanting to drink the breast milk of cattle. To me it is a pretty gross thought. I am raising my son dairy free.".......... What an intelligent comment. What exactly do you eat? Anything you don't consider "gross"? Extremism, on either side of an issue, is rarely correct. Milk is not the magic elixir of health, and it is not the poison of the human race.

Name: Rachel
Website: Earthmother
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Manitowoc, WI
Time: 1997-11-03 09:30:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->You know, cow's milk IS the perfect food--for baby cows. Human milk is made for humans. I don't see why people need to get so emotional about wanting to drink the breast milk of cattle. To me it is a pretty gross thought. I am raising my son dairy free. (I would have even if he weren't allergic to dairy foods, something I found out quite by accident...) Some people seem to think that the author of this page is way out there. You need to check out the Physician's Committee For Responsible Medicine's stance on dairy products. Or read "Diet for a New America" by John Robbins (the son of the Baskin-Robbins guy), "Food For Life" by Neal Barnard, M.D., anything by Dean Ornish, M.D. or John McDougall, M.D., "Food" by Susan Powter, or others I'm sure I'm missing on. The fact that dairy products are not the squeaky clean "perfect" food some people think they are has been known for a long time.

Name: Debbie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Manchester England
Time: 1997-11-02 21:54:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Great web page! It's good to hear that there are plenty of other people out there who are not blinded by the greed of the milk marketing industry and their vile propaganda. Cow baby milk is for baby cows. Not for fully grown adult human beings! It's a simple as that.We take the cows milk and the calf gets shipped off to spend a miserable existence in a darkened crate so that people can satisfy their disgusting craving for white baby calf flesh. It's a cycle of pure misery starting with our presumption that it is healthy and right to drink cows milk. People don't expect human babies to continue suckling from their mother's breast beyond a few months old yet we expect the cow to provide us with milk for all of our lives! It's an outrage. Please read our veganarchy web site for more rants and rages.

Name: Tim R
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: California
Time: 1997-11-02 16:04:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Overall, excellent job. I've also studied milk and other dairy products for the past few years, and I've found the amount of negatives far outweighs the positives. Solid science is backing this up, too. Check out the China Health Study which is saying that a minimal amount of animal foods (including milk) is the way to ideal health. Calcium can come in a pill... Why is it such a big deal that some drink has it? Milk has lots of saturated fat. The switch in recent years to lower-fat milks is a good idea, but the damage from all the whole fat consumed over the years has been done. Perhaps milk (along with milk products) take the crown as the leading cause of heart disease. (And yet we still think they are healthy.) A big "sorry" to the hard-working dairy farmers, especially on small farms. But do people have sympathy these days for hard-working tobacco farmers? Not really. Unhealthy products mean things (markets) will change. And could it be that the big-corporation dairies are the ones bending the rules (antibiotics, etc.) more than the small guys?

Name: Natasha Pounders
Website:
Referred by: From LinkExchange
From: California
Time: 1997-11-02 07:35:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->If you don't want to drink milk then don't. Really why would you waste your time making a site like this. Is it that important to you to try to get people not to drink milk? Seems a little odd if you ask me.

Name: Casey McNeal
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Dublin, Texas
Time: 1997-11-02 04:24:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Mr. Cohen, Mr. Cohen, you have written alot of false information and accusations regarding the milk industry and the judgement of billions of people around the world who choose to drink milk. I do not know why you wrote those things, one can only imagine, perhaps an awful experience during your child hood. They say every thing we do as an adult can be attributed to our child hood. I wonder, did your Mom breast feed you well after you turned three. If that is the reason you have taken it upon your self to unsuccesfuly trash the milk industry , you should try devoting some of your time to working this issue out with your Mom and maybe even some therapy.If this is not the reason please do not worry I, unlike you, will be able to sleep at night because I have integrity. I did not write this to make money or a name for my self. If this angers you, that is good, anger comes after denial and so, you are one step ahead when you get into therapy. Drink milk , all milk does not taste the same!You might have had some sour milk???????????????

Name: J Steele
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From:
Time: 1997-11-01 16:21:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Thanks for providing an alternative to the milk propaganda that has infiltrated every corner of our society. In Canada the Food Guide is aid for by the dairy boards, surprise it suggests more milk as the answer for everything. You are going to take some serious heat on your stance. Stay strong. You should mention that animal products like milk actually leach calcium instead of giving it to your bones. It's funny to read your guestbook and see how brainwashed people are. Why react do they get so angry? 20 years of propaganda will do that.

Name: Tammy Schilbe
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Canada
Time: 1997-11-01 16:13:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Loved your notmilk message! Also loved to laugh at all the people who signed your guestbook quoting dairy board commercials and saying..."if the government says its okay it MUST be..." HA HA HA HA Keep up the good work - people are NOT meant to drink cow's milk.

Name: Rod McNeal
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Dublin TX Milk Capital of Planet Earth
Time: 1997-11-01 09:17:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Dickhead!!!

Name: Beth Meyer
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: American Dairy Association and Dairy Council, Inc
Time: 1997-10-29 20:20:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->To hear what Registered Dietitians from major universities and other health professionals have to say regarding this website and Mr. Cohen's health claims, contact Beth Meyer at the American Dairy Association and Dairy Council, Inc. 315-472-9143, e-mail, BMeyer@ADADC.COM

Name: milk man
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-10-28 13:29:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->You are dumb. Obviously you didn't see the commercials telling you that milk is healthy. Also it tastes good. Real good. And why would something taste good and why would they say it is good if it is bad. Plus, the goverment is very careful they never let bad food be eaten. It's not like the USDA that oversees dairy is chartered to promote it to the public. If there was anything wrong, the dairy farmers would stop selling that milk because they care way more about your health than their profits. It's not like the dairy folks lobby the goverment to have their propaganda shoved down schoolkids throats. No way that would never happen. You just need to eat some ice cream.

Name: Bev Sutton
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: New York
Time: 1997-10-28 03:12:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Good work Robert! The Suttons use soymilk and organic dairy products only.

Name: Albert Guetta
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Tenafly NJ
Time: 1997-10-27 07:36:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Hi Robert, I am dad's friend, and he gave me your web page address. Good Luck...

Name: Jim
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-10-27 05:53:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->You just did your WebPage to generate some response,right?Well in the polite words of some of my bovine friends I can only say that most of what you have put forth as fact is in fact "caca de toro" or more bluntly "Bullshit!" Have a nice day!

Name: offended dairy farmer's daughter
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: New England
Time: 1997-10-27 04:24:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Why did you tell me to come to this homepage??? what does it have to do with Weaver Disease?? BST, is only an injection to make the cow eat more, therefore causing the cow to produce more. I live on a farm with 230 milking cows, we drink our milk, and we use BST. WE ARE FINE!! Did you grow up on farm? do you have experience with farming? where did you learn all this "information"?? how do you know for sure it is accurate? I would also like to say, our cows are HEALTHY!!

Name: Darcie McCullum
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: Sussex, NB, Canada
Time: 1997-10-27 02:03:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->You obviously did not major in agriculture when you went to university. After reading your blatant lies it can be doubted that you even attended university. The high amount of milk poroducts consumed may be a problem, but the contents of milk as you give them are not at all accurate or realistic. These may be found in milk by times but this milk is not passed onto the consumer. Their are strict government guidelines in place to monitor the bacteria levels in milk as well as other foreign objects. If milk was going to kill us all then we would all be dead long before now. Generations before us lived happy and healthy lives while still enjoying milk. If the American public is concerned about what is in there milk maybe they should try to get some real informaiton unlike the junk found on this page. I would sooner spend the cost of your book on animal excrement. Were you never taught to learn a bit about a subject before you start preaching it. Your article has only one small leg to stand on; Americans consume too much in the form of dairy products on average. I am not sure what the Canadian figures are but I do know that milk meeting your discription is not sold in any developed country. I am a 4-H member here in Canada having studied milk over the past 8 years. Never have I seen an eighth of the materials you mention in a carton of milk. Offering a copy of your book in reward for the best comments in your guestbook by a 4 -H member is striving for at least one positive comment in regards to your data. I believe you are a ver y messed up individual for having wrote these kinds of lies, and Worst of All I think you must believe them. What did the Dairy Farmer do to you? Were you scared by a cow at a young age? If a first year animal science major can tell you are messed up in the head I hope It is obvious to every one else. I believe that the 1710 people who have read your information are worse off for having endured your onesided monotonous discourse on the worst of milk that the consumer never sees or tastes. I hope you soon realize along with everyone else that milk really does do a body good, but it isn't a miracle food, it must be taken in moderation. If you were hopping for positive feedback from the readers of the Canadian 4-H Council guest book, I believe you will be greatly disappointed. We may be Canadian but milk doesn't change at the border.

Name: SABRINA MORRIS
Website:
Referred by: Advertisment/Brochure
From: NEWFOUNDLAND, CANADA
Time: 1997-10-27 01:59:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Obviously, this is not a well researched article. If it was researched, it would have been found that milk is a major source of calcium, and other nutrients needed by the human body. Trying to say that cows can pass on diseases to people is a far fetched cry for attention. I don't know about in the USA but in Canada, we pastruize, and clean our milk and run many series of tests on it before it is ever sent to the consumer, and sick or ill cows are not milked into the main milk source. I got this address by reading an offer on a 4-H website that offered a free book to the best comment. This may not get me the free book, but seing that it contains the garbage that is in this homepage I no longer see a need in wanting it. Perhaps instead of buying a carton of milk, all teen-agers as myself should go out and buy alcohol. Let this happen and you will see a bigger problem than you ever did when it was just milk that was being drunk. If milk was such a horrible problem causing beverage as it is made out to be in your home page then I am sure that it would not be fit for market and not sold. Hopefully, people are not gullable enough to belive your horrible LIES. Just remember that once you were a baby, and like everyone else you probally drank milk, and if it is really that bad for you, you wouldn't be alive to downgrade it now! Just for your information I am a 4-H member who has been a part of the Dairy Group and worked on a Dairy Farm. Perhaps the most damaging piece of information which I obtained from this has been that you actually believe what you are saying.

Name: Sedna
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-10-27 01:48:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Your a (expletive deleted)

Name: Sedna
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: New York
Time: 1997-10-27 01:36:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK--> You have to be the biggest (CENSORED) that there is out there because you really need to rearch your data pal. This is the biggest peice of yellow jounralism that I have seen Your just a (CENSRED) yuppie that wants to sell his (CENSORED) book so you can make money. Your a real (CENSORED) pal

Name: Scott Laufenberg
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: DeForest WI
Time: 1997-10-26 22:32:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Mr Cohen: I am amassed that anyone could print such a twisted pile of information in a public forum. I have had only limited time to check your figures. USDA has per capita milk consumption at 299lbs/capita not 586. What a wonderful thing it would be if we all consumed 586 lbs of dairy products. If nature has a perfect food it is clearly milk. I would suggest spending your efforts on something usefull. Scott Laufenberg SLAUF1@aol.com
NOTMILKMAN's COMMENT:
insert comments after this --> Dear Scott, Thank you for your kind message! :>) In 1995, according to the United States Department of Agriculture, the average American ate 4.5 pounds of butter. Since it takes 21.2 pounds of milk to make one pound of butter...it took 95.4 pounds of milk to produce the average American's butter consumption. The average American also ate 27.7 pounds of cheese. The conversion factor for cheese reveals that 10 pounds of milk are needed to produce one pound of cheese. So, with just cheese and butter...the DAIRY FARMER had to produce over 372 pounds of milk for each citizen of this country. I haven't even mentioned ice cream...add another 190 pounds of milk per American... Are you getting the picture? In 1995 the average American drank 72.1 pounds of whole milk, 69.1 pounds of 2% milk, 22 pounds of 1% milk, 33.7 pounds of skim milk, 10.4 pounds of flavored milk... I've got dozens of other products revealing that it took 932.05 pounds to produce all of the dairy products for the average American, although USDA admits that the average American in 1995 consumed the equivalent of 584 pounds of milk and dairy! Bon(e) apetit! End comments here... cut and past the WHOLE thing -->
Regards... the NOTMILKMAN.
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Name: Jarrod Burleigh
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Pleasant Mt. Pa
Time: 1997-10-26 01:11:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Mr. Cohen, For someone who brags about their education, such as you do, it is amazing to me how uneducated you actually are. If milk were actually "infected with all of the antibiotics and blood and pus that you say are in that milk would be immediately detected and discarded fast enough to make your eneducated head spin. I am a dairy farmer and your web page pisses me off to no end. I work hard every day to produce milk, at my home farm and at the farm i'm employed at on my college campus, and to hear the product I work so hard to produce is unhealthy and a toxin to america's people makes me mad. I would like you to e-mail me and tell me the source for all of the flat out (expletive deleted) in your web page. I'd also would like to know what made you turn against the dairy farmer; the true american working man. I would hate to see all the money you spent on your inflated college education used to help you find bogus information, and I would be glad to help you clear your inferior mind of the useless knowledge you've acquired. Jarrod Burleigh Dairy Farmer, for life

Name: Najah
Website:
Referred by: Net Search
From: New York
Time: 1997-10-23 12:10:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Like your site! It's a up hill struggle against these large agricultural cartels. The "Got Milk" commercials are cute. It's difficult to get the other side of the coin broadcast --difficult but understandable. After all, who's gonna pay....

Name: angelo contini
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: memphis,tn
Time: 1997-10-23 06:40:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->To the Author: Your article,in my opinion has taken information out of context. Dairy farmers are not allowed to have antibodies in the milk, there is a sample taken from each farms milk before it is sent to the plant and furthermore the only way that there could be antibodies in the milk was if there was colostrum in the milk which there is not because the first 10 days after a cow calves her milk is not put into production to keep antibodies out of the milk and is given to the calve by bottle.

Name: Elizabeth Dover
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Detroit
Time: 1997-10-22 21:47:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Do you know of any really good milk-free cookbooks? I have MCS and also need to avoid corn (and probably about a million other foods, but I have to start somewhere). Also, I need info about milk hidden in prepackaged foods that doesn't show up on the label as casein, whey, etc. Recently I have noticed a few products labeled as completely milk free. Is this a trend? Is there regulation in the works to mandate this kind of labeling? Thanks for your work on this issue! Blessings, Beth

Name: Suzanne
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Denver
Time: 1997-10-22 21:12:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Robert is raising some very interesting issues we should all think about before we condemn his conclusions. His pyramid confirms what we all know - that Americans don't have an ideal diet. But it shows just how large our dairy intake is, and this should be of great interest to us all. What is the effect of this large percent of dairy? It clearly can be a source of saturated animal fat, which we know isn't beneficial for cardiovascular function. As for osteoporosis, any women reading this who hope to prevent that disease by drinking lots of milk should think again. Why is this disease so widespread in a population consuming so much of its calcium via dairy products? In fact, the highest rates of osteoporosis occur in the Scandinavian countries, where there are also the highest rates of dairy consumption. Conversely, low rates of osteoporosis are found in countries where milk is not consumed by adults at all (Japan, for example) and where total calcium intakes are lower than those in the U.S. Perhaps to prevent osteoporosis, we should be concerned about calcium balance rather than simple intake. This includes calcium LOSS. What causes calcium loss? Lack of exercise definitely causes bone demineralization, and we know the U.S. population doesn't exercise. High phosphorous intake is another cause of calcium loss. Phosphorous is found in soda pop and protein. Hmmm. We drink a lot of soda pop in the U.S. And, the average American woman gets twice the protein she needs. Ironicaly, our main source of calcium, dairy products, are also high in protein. Robert views may seem shockingly contrary to everything we were ever taught (We all grew up hearing: "You never outgrow your need for milk"), but remember that there are always consequences to disregarding natural processes. Nature intended milk for neonates.

Name: Mary
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Louisiana
Time: 1997-10-22 00:30:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I have researched your web page and find the scare tactics you use to sell your book to be outrageous! You state your concern for the use of BST in milk but even in Ms. Heimlich's review she admits that because of concerns about the safety BST about 95% of farmers refused to try it, and that many of those that did have quit because of health problems in their herds. Over three years after it's introduction most farmers are not using it because it is not cost effective in most herds. You also state that milk is made up of blood, pus, bacteria and virus. Unless a person worked with cows they would think that maybe you know what you are talking about, you do not. Blood can be present in the udders of cows that have recently calved or in cow who have had an injury to their udder. This milk is dumped out or feed to calves. As far as pus in the milk, I assume you are referring to white blood cells which are present when a cow develops an inflamed udder condition called mastitis. Many times this condition heals it's self but sometimes requires antibiotics. When cows are treated with antibiotics their milk is not shipped until the farmer runs an antibiotic test on the milk. It is not cheap to do but no farmer I know of wants to be responsible for shipping contaminated milk especially since he must pay for any other milk that his milk might ruin. If milk is found to be comtaminated with antibiotics it is dumped. As for bacteria found in milk you surely know that farmers have strict standards for the amount of bacteria that can be present in milk. Even though milk is pasturized to kill any bacteria present farmers still have to be very careful that they are shipping clean milk if bacteria levels are too high the milk cannot sold. Milk from every farm is checked daily to be sure it is within the strict standards for mastitis and bacteria and that there are no antibiotics present. Your comparison of milk to beer was nothing short of humerous. You state that the average woman consumes 2 lbs. of dairy products a day and also that the average American consumes 26 ozs. a day I don't believe that the average woman consumes more milk products than the average American in general, especially since we know that children are the biggest consumers of milk. Comparing milk to beer is silly since your averages include children who in general don't drink beer but are the biggest consumers of milk. Also go back and compare the fat and calorie content of skim milk to beer and you will find the products to be equal in calorie with neither containing any fat.

Name: Calvin Wasserstrass
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1997-10-21 17:44:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Funny thing, my loopy sister-in-law recently gave us 2 articles, one about sugar and one about soda pop. Both made almost exactly the same claims about those two things as you do about milk. Same diseases and everything. Coincidence? Or trying to triple your income from the writing one inflamitory book?

Name: Jenn
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: pennsylvania
Time: 1997-10-20 07:23:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Dear Mr. Cohen, Do you realize just how wrong you are? Milk does none or contains none of the horrible thing you have just stated. It is people like you who give hardworking farmers a bad reputation. I come from a farm family, my father works 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Those are 12 hour days (sometimes more). That milk check, is a major source of income. It's people like you who turn people away from milk and lower milk prices. You gave some so called facts comparing beer to milk. Are you trying to say that beer is better for us than milk? With todays society and problems, do you really think that is a good message to send to today's youth? Wake up and smell the milk.

Name: Melissa D
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Lancaaster, PA
Time: 1997-10-20 01:39:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->My boss and I argue all the time about what he perceives as a glutton of misinformation on the Internet. I have always defended the Internet until now. I have witnessed true garbage and misleading information. We all like to think we have the answers. However, I don't think you can blame milk solely for all the things you would like to. Talk to any cardiologist and he will tell you that dairy products and cholesterol, while being large factors in heart disease are not the sole cause. What about smoking? Lack of exercise? Poor diet generally? I can't imagine why you have such an axe to grind with the dairy industry, but you'd do better to have some real research and facts behind you before you incite an anti-milk riot.

Name: kurt curtis
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Pennsylvania
Time: 1997-10-19 19:53:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I feel that you have no idea what really goes on on a farm As far as the reason for the price of milk being so high why don't you do some of your great research and find out how much money they are paid.I have been drinking milk all of my life. For some odd reason I have never gotten sick from it, maybe you could explain to me why that is.

Name: David J. Kennedy
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Honesdale, PA
Time: 1997-10-19 04:37:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Dear Sir, I am only calling you "sir" because I have been taught to respect everyone although I don't believe you deserve much after all of the lies you are feeding to people reading your homepage. I come from a family of dairy farmers and all of your so-called ingredients that you listed is a load of crap. How can you possibly believe that milk helps cause heart disease and contributes to osteoperosis? That is the most unreal thing I've ever heard in my life!! You obviously have done some bogus research to have received these results. I am currently a student at Delaware Valley College in Doylestown, Pa and your foolish statements have made you many enemies from farmers who know the truth about the products they produce. How much time have you spent with dairy cows? I think I know the answer to that question and it makes you look even more stupid. I think you are just looking for attention and since the easiest way to get it is on the Internet you just through this up without RESPECT for those who actually feed you.

Name: Lul Sufkut
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: milky way
Time: 1997-10-19 04:21:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->This is too silly........Monsanto is old news,... we will keep rBST out of Europe, so drink European milk............. Have you already done anything on fructose? Well I heard that it can cause a rise in blood cholesterol and fatty acids. Maybe that's a reason for alll the people dying from heart disease??? People are eating far too much sugar.... read my book "Sugar the mother of alll dietary killers" You can order it, because I wanna get rich, too. Dont eat grapefruit when using certain anti-histamines. Very dangerous. Pfisteria bacteria that kills fish can affect human health? I feel a little bit ichy.... I had fish for dinner Really enjoyed your hompage.... Keep up the hilarious work. Your comments on the use of antibiotics on dairy cattle show that you don't have any clue about the dairy industry....., so I recommend you work 8 days a week from now on. If you want to understand the diversity in milk production methods.....

Name: Kelly Seibert
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Hillsborough, NC
Time: 1997-10-19 00:11:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm-->Wow, talk about biting the hand that feeds you! I guess I should be feeding my kids diet coke and a candy bar for meals instead. The things people will do to make a buck!

Name: Bernie
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Missouri
Time: 1997-10-18 22:29:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I guess your an organic vegetarian. Are you sure you wash all the bacteria and insect droppings off your veggies? Do you pasturize your veggies as milk is to kill bacteria? Are you sure that veggies and fruits don't have compounds in them naturally that are not harmful in their pure form? Is the water you wash your veggies in, 100% H2O? Not likely. Gosh the air you breathe is not pure, even 2,000 years ago there was smoke, volcanic ash, dust. I think every thing going into your body has the potential to kill you sooner or later. You must be paranoid about the all possibilities. I think you may die from eating at all, maybe for peace of mind you should stop eating. Oops that might kill you too. There's just no winning, were all gonna die. I'm gonna have me some farm fresh milk, cheese on buttered toast with ketcup, for lunch fetticini alfredo and dinner maybe steak and mashed potatoes. I'm dying happy

Name: Alex Crockford
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Salina, Kansas
Time: 1997-10-18 21:40:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->As a future dairy farmer I must give a unique perspective. I think there is a problem with the use of hormones on livestock. I therefore do not drink or eat animal products treated with hormones. BUT You CAN buy dairy products and meat that are untreated with hormones. I can help you find them. I drink rBGH free milk I buy at a store just down the road, sold from a national chain, at the same price as I find milk elsewhere. I buy yogurt from a local farmer, unpastuerize, and unhomogenized. I order raw rBGH free cheese from the food co-operative in town. I eat natural, free range chickens and eggs. I eat "grass-fed" beef and pastured pork. I love these foods, and I think their quality and saftey is higher than what I would get at one super grocery store. Also, you NEED fat in your diet, and you need cholesterol (esp LDLs) for normal bodily function, You DON'T need the man-made chemicals present in nearly ALL foods. I've seen plenty of obese, sickly, and emaciated vegetarians! I'm not going to raise my kids on beer. We are going to drink sweet jersey whole milk from the family cow. I don't think the website deals with the truth. There may be a problem with the agrichemical industry, and that may be your main issue. To attack milk altogether not only is destructive to your credibility, the REAL issues are lost in the controversy. The real issues are scale of production, research funding for alternatives, a sustainable level of farm profitibility, the loss of bovine genetic diversity, herd stress, artificially low milk prices, science in the hand of industrial profits, and FOOD without a FACE - not knowing where (who) your food is coming from. Alex Crockford alex@deepthought.org

Name: milk lover
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: the good old USA
Time: 1997-10-18 21:08:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Just goes to show that any jerk can write a piece of trash and get away with it. But thats freedom of speech for you!! I think I'll get started on mine right now and call it "Thank God for the Dairy Farmer" as experienced by the 13+ years of living and working around them. At least I will have facts and truths not coffee shop gossipp.

Name: Jamie Hobson
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Elmira, Ont.
Time: 1997-10-18 09:03:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->As it is prone to do, the internet has once again provided the soapbox for someone's 15 minutes of fame. The take home message here is consumerism - if you honestly believe there to be a problem with milk then you have a right to voice your opinon and lobby for changes. I ask people reading this web page to be independently critical and analytical of it's contents rather than just emotionally aroused. Gather information from many sources (one of the attributes of the internet), talk to people you know personally and trust who may have some knowledge on this topic, then examine both sides of the argument and their credentials and make up your own mind. Be as cautious of this author as he is of others. Be an independent, analytical consumer not only of milk but also of this web page. Do you feel the need to be informed by this book or do you feel led down a garden path? In the end if you do buy the book, perhaps you could share a review with others to help inform them. Finally a note to the author: I feel compelled to say that I see your need to financially capitalize on this lobby issue as a blaring weakness to your credibility. If you are doing this solely for your children perhaps you wouldn't mind donating all the profits from the sale of this book to providing funds for programs designed to educate people and children regarding the alternative's to milk.

Name: Brent Palmer
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: SLC, Utah
Time: 1997-10-18 05:56:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Robert, I just wanted to let you know that there is moderation in all things. I doubt anyone can survive on a total diet of carrots, espeacially children. And I would like to let you know that me and my six kids are doing quite well on milk. I thank the lord for farmers. Its hard labor and risky business. Its easy for some of us with our bellies full to complain. Regards, Brent Palmer

Name: Not a Sheep!
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-10-18 03:43:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->Should we not breathe because each breath contains minute amounts of soot, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, viruses, bacteria, dander, and snot?

Name: Jennifer Mitchell
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: University of Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Time: 1997-10-17 20:20:00
Comments: http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->I am a student studying agriculture at the University of Guelph and have been involved with the dairy industry for many years. I worked for a year as Dairy Educator for my county, I have worked on numerous dairy farms and this past summer I worked at Ontario Dairy Herd Improvement as a lab technician. Before you make anymore accusations about milk, I believe you should do a little more homework and be sure you have all your facts straight. Firstly, you say that farmers are using increasingly large amounts of antibiotics on their cows. Antibiotics cost money and farmers use them only when necessary. Also, there are certain withdrawal periods that must be obeyed before milk from a cow on medication can be put into the bulk tank. A farmer can get into serious trouble if drug residues are found in his shipment of milk. Extreme care is taken to ensure that this milk is dumped and not included with the milk to be shipped. Consumers need not worry about the quality of milk they buy. Secondly, you mention BST. What solid proof do you have that it is harmful to humans? I am in no way an expert on BST, but I know that there hasn't been any adverse affects related to it. I have seen the path milk takes, from the farm, onto the milk truck, to the lab and to your table and I still drink it. If there was anything wrong with milk all of the workers in the dairy industry would be aware of it and surely would not drink it themselves. We do drink milk and there is nothing wrong with us, so let that be a lesson to those of you who have sworn off "the perfect food". "If you eat today, thank God and thank a farmer".

Name: Dave Shishkoff
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Victoria, BC, Canada
Time: 1997-10-17 11:23:00
Comments: http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=NOTMILK-->hehe.. I went to the WhyMilk page, and answered the questions best to my knowledge.. Here's the result's: You Scored 0 Out of a Possible 10 Correct Answers Whoops! You really need to get more nutrients to nurture that noggin. Drink more milk--like at least three cups a day--then try the quiz again. Ooops. Looks like I'm not getting enough milk, or at least enough to buy into their campaign.. Since when was milk a brain-food?

Name: Dr. Scott E. Poock
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Wisconsin
Time: 1997-10-16 23:36:00
Comments: Dear Sir; I cannot address all your concerns about the milk supply. However, as a veterianarian that deals with dairy farmers, I can address the Leukosis and antibiotic residue "problems." Your estimation of 60% of cows having leukosis is much too high. Serological testing may be as high as 20%. However, this simply means that they were exposed and developed antibodies, not that she has lymphosarcoma. Secondly, if you prepare the meat properly, as you always should, the meat will be safe. If the cow does have active lymphosarcoma her carcass will be condemned. We have the most thorough meat inspection system in the world. Thirdly, dairy farmers are not indiscriminantly using antibiotics. They are used on sick animals and most farmers and all milk plants test the milk prior to it going for human consumption. Sincerely, Scott E. Poock, DVM

Name: Jenn Dotterer
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Delaware Valley College
Time: 1997-10-16 22:15:00
Comments: Do you live on beer? You are saying that beer is better for us then milk. That's not a good message for today's teens. Do you eat meat? You must live on beer and grass. Or don't you eat grass because that's what the cows eat? It's dumb (censored) like you that give farmers a bad reputation. I live on a farm and am a dairy science major at DVC. If milk and milk products are so bad and cause all these bad things to happen to our bodies wouldn't you think that they would take it off the market? And this crap about milk causing ostioperious. Where did you get these so called facts? Out of your (censored)? You must have.

Name: Doug Harbach
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: PA
Time: 1997-10-16 10:16:00
Comments: Are you aware of all the test milk must go through before it can be sold at any store in america. It is tested for antibiotics and bacteria. If any milk is found to contain excessive amounts of these substances they are rejected and destroyed. I have no idea where you got the idea about puss in our milk supply. It sounds to me like you are using that to try to gross people out and gain support to sell your worthless little book. I grew up on a dairy farm and have worked on farms most of my life, stopping only to continue my education in Dairy Science. I assure you that milk is the most regulated beverage to be produced in the US. I think you are a very educated men and you are using you knowledge of persuading people to make a couple of bucks on a book. Maybe you should get a real job and actually earn your living!

Name: Donna
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Florida
Time: 1997-10-16 10:03:00
Comments: Hi, Robert, You may be hearing from more members of my family. I gave them this address so they may be educated, also. Best of luck with this new book. I hope every citizen reads it. I loved the little animated figure on the phone. Whose idea was that? Donna

Name: somebody who gives a (censored)
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-10-16 09:54:00
Comments: your nothing but a fat piece of (censored) I have a question for you...... how come you can't get a (censored)in New Jersey during pennsylvania's hunting seasons ? Because all of the (censored) are up here. I am sure you must be one of these people

Name: Nick Fisher
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Lancaster County, PA
Time: 1997-10-16 07:36:00
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I would just like to express my feeling about this web page. This page is full of a lot of (censored). I can't believe that you would honestly put down the dairy industry the way you have. You have made the dairy industry look very bad and by doing that you put down agriculture. Agriculture, for your information, is the backbone of this great country. You would not have anything if it were not for agriculture. I really do not care how much of an education you have. It sounds as if you are nothing more than someone who wants to watch this great country of ours go straight to hell. Without agriculture we would no longer be a world power do to the fact we would have no way to feed our people. I do not care how much money you have, it is because of us farmers that others, such as yourself, can prosper. I hope that you realize that I am a dairy farmer and I know that your facts are not correct. Maybe you are lactose intolerant and that is why you are making milk look like a bad thing. The FDA (Ferderal Department of Agriculture) has a very tight grip on milk quality. Being from Lancaster County I know how much of a grip the FDA really has. It shows in your web page that you did not research this heavily enough. I think that maybe you should consider the points I have made and really go back and research your information better. It will show you that milk is natures drink. It will also show you that most of your research is not correct. What we need in this country is more people in the agriculture field and less people like yourself. The farmers in this country are some of the most selfless people since we put you the consumer first and ourselves and families next. So I leave you with this saying, "God bless America....and the farmer that feeds your fat (censored)".

Name: Robert J Lieb
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Cambria County, PA
Time: 1997-10-16 07:16:00
Comments: Mr. Cohen, I am a dairy farmer I am the sixth generation of my family to be a dairy farmer. I am currently enrolled at Delaware Valley College in Doylestown, PA. Although I do not carry an education which is as lengthy as yours I do consider myself educated enough to know a bold faced lie when I see one. First of all, milk is the most carefully regulated food in the country. There is no way that the many "contaminants" you stated in your website could exist in milk. About BST, it is a hormone, this said you should know that hormones are made up of proteins, which are made up of amino acids, which are completely digestible in the human stomach. In short, stop slandering my industry and my way of life.

Name: Fred Smith
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Paradise, CA
Time: 1997-10-16 00:20:00
Comments: I heard Mr Cohen on a Chico, CA talk radio program. I could not believe my ears! How could the FDA permit our food supply to be come a secret stream of toxic poison? Since that day my family (wife and two small children) have stopped drinking milk. We are quickly changing to a non-dairy vegetarian diet and switching to local organic food sources. People think we are crazy and scoff at the idea that the government would covertly permit such tampering with our food supply. My family has decided our health is too important!! This corrupt government and immoral agri- business corporations be damned.

Name: Melinda Sellers
Website:
Referred by: NewsGroups
From: Richmond, VA
Time: 1997-10-15 09:18:00
Comments: What?! Milk is bad? Everyone knows milk is a wonderful, nutritious food - FOR BABY COWS!!! Thanks for your great homepage and being brave enough to say such an "Un-American" thing as milk is not good for you. After years of earaches, stomachaches, (Dare I say it - "gas") I finally got smart and stopped drinking milk, eating cow cheese and the like. I confess I do eat some goat milk products occassionally and when I forget how bad it makes me feel, I try pizza again. But it's never worth it. I think of milk and dairy products the way I think of alcohol, something bad for you that you have on holidays and special occasions. Both give me horrible hangovers so my need to imbibe steadily declines with each bad "morning after" The worst of it is that my in-laws think I'm raising malnourished children because I don't give them any milk and dairy. Never mind that none of them has had more than three colds a year in their life. (The average number of colds for young children is somewhere between eight and ten per year) They are very healthy, perfect weight and height proportioned little eating machines. They don't even like "the stuff". They think milk is the rice milk they have on their cereal. Only my oldest knows about the evils of milk and has often succumbed to it's lure, his father and I are divorced and the man is addicted to pizza and ice cream. (And he wonders why he's always sick) I know that he is leading my son to believe that milk is "not as bad as your mother says" I hate to say it but I think my son will have to learn the hard way. I'll try to stear him this way, maybe a few testimonials from other people who have learned to enjoy life without milk will stick in his mind for future reference. Someday when he's tired of feeling bloated, constipated and stopped up, he'll accept the truth. HE IS NOT A BABY COW. ha ha Keep up the good work and here's a glass of good cheer to the "Not-Milk Revolution!!!

Name: Jennifer St John
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Pelkie, Michigan
Time: 1997-10-14 17:46:00
Comments: Hello, You should remember me. I talked to you on the phone. I would like to order your book but I need to get some money first so save me a copy and then I can use your book as a reference for my continueing of my research paper throughout my college career. Thanks , jennifer St John

Name: Carol Bieber
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Kansas City, MO
Time: 1997-10-12 04:15:00
Comments: Really enjoyed your page, its cute too. The information is really important. Science is no longer truthful in its methods, junk science abounds... I am happy to see you are so tenacious for truth. I also enjoyed your interview with Dr Dorman on the radio today... thanks for the info.

Name: Chris Petersen
Website:
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Live in Elkhart, IN, School at Notre Dame
Time: 1997-10-09 01:40:00
Comments: If you update your references would it be possible for you to send me the newest references?

Name: Mary Nash Stoddard
Website: Aspartame Consumer Safety Network Homepage
Referred by: Word of Mouth
From: Planet Earth
Time: 1997-10-07 10:50:00
Comments: Very interesting website, Cohen. Sorry I haven't returned your call. Have only been home long enough to repack my suitcase. Lectured at a Nutrition Conference in Boulder CO, Sept. 14th - Austin, TX, Oct. 3 . Another out of town lecture this Friday, Oct. 10 then again on the 13th and the 23rd! (We're the ones actually out there doing something about the aspartame problem - not just talking about it!) I'm still hosting the talkshow on USA Radio Network sometimes, and I'll have to have you on again soon. Hey, how about a link to our website? We're the ones who "pioneered" the anti-aspartame consumer movement that has engulfed the rest of the world. I see D. O. R. 's site mentioned. He's the character who sliced me up pretty good verbally in some poison emails. I don't even know the man! Gimme a break! Anyway, good luck with your campaign and the book. I think you may just have hit on something! You know I've been a fan of your work for a long time! until later . . . Mary Stoddard

Name: Eva TS Jones
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From:
Time: 1997-10-05 13:35:00
Comments: Here comes trouble. Congradulations! David did a great job with your homepage. Lots of success as I know it is already underway. Keep up the good work. Are you going to be another Betty Martini? I noticed that I was number 84 to visit the sight, how long have you had the homepage up and running? etsj

Name: Ron Hamilton
Website:
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Prince George, B.C.
Time: 1997-10-05 04:37:00
Comments: Your page should make everyone question the FDA,USDA,Monsanto,Health Canada,Agriculture Canada. We are being deliberately poisoned. Good work Robert Cohen!

Name: David Rietz
Website: DORway to Discovery! (aspartame info site)
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Goose Creek, SC
Time: 1997-10-04 05:56:00
Comments: Your page has a very important message... about yet another national disgrace allowed to happen by the FDA. The Bovine Growth Hormone (BGH), that now pollutes the milk supply and causes excessive use of antibiotics, came to market by much the same less-than-honest-means as did aspartame. As was the case with aspartame, allowable limits of unhealthy substances were raised so that these products could just meet the requirements. Just like aspartame, certain important facts were ignored or overlooked in the approval process. Just like aspartame the FDA will not consider acknowledging or correcting their mistake! But, what can a citizen expect from the FDA when 70 people get sick from E-coli tainted alfalfa sprouts and nothing happens (in contrast to the world-wide alert by the USDA when only 17 people became sick from E-coli tainted hamburger meat), or the fact that the FDA is considering approval of Thalidomide, despite the disaster it caused over thirty years ago. I have even heard that, now that aspartame is making Monsanto a billions dollars that the FDA is considering removing the cancer warning from saccharin. They have been petitioned to omit the PKU warning from aspartame used in some products (yogurt, for one) and they might just allow that to happen, too. To learn that Monsanto could have corrected the mistake but chose not to is lamentable, and proves that just like aspartame the bottom line... the dollar sign, is all that counts! But BGH is far worse then aspartame because it affects far more people (just about everyone)! Americans have been raised to believe that milk is wholesome and even necessary. The milk, cheese, butter and other dairy products have always enjoyed a "squeaky clean" reputation... until now. Thank you for your personal commitment and unswerving convictions and personal sacrifice to bring this to the public attention. I am convinced that only "people-power" will get the BGH problem corrected, just as it must be with getting aspartame off the market.

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