Guestbook: NOTMILK to 11-21-2000 Thank you for taking the time to comment on NOTMILK! *** Bad language or invalid Email address are causes for deletion! *** Total: 2032 guests Name: leah Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: michigan Time: 2000-11-18 23:34:44 Comments: Milk was a poison to me until i happened to read a magazine article in Rheumatology Today ,in a rheumatologist's office waiting symptom free. I waited in agony all month . Curiously no symptoms that day. The article said something about milk and tomatoes being the culprit for triggering arthritis. I had been drinking tremendous amountsof milk not knowing that the proteins were chrystallizing in my joints. Swollen joints and pain went away along with the milk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Natalie Scott Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Colorado Time: 2000-11-16 22:45:04 Comments: After reading an article in Discover magazine by Colin Campbell I decided to do a little more research about dairy, that is how I found your site. I also ordered your book, which I found very informative (though a little hard to read). I stopped drinking milk a long time ago after finding out about the pus content, but I still ate a lot of dairy. Now, I have given it all up and I find myself trying to get everyone else I know to do the same. I wanted to let you know how much I like your site (I refer people to it all the time) and how thankful I am that there are people who think it's important enough for everyone to know the truth. :o) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Robert Anderson Website: Physicians and Scientists for Responsible Genetics Referred by: Net Search From: New Zealand Time: 2000-11-16 00:29:04 Comments: Robert You are doing an excellent job. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Alexandra Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Brussels, Belgium Time: 2000-11-15 08:12:29 Comments: I gave up cow's milk a little over two years ago because the cow's milk proteins were going through my milk and causing an allergic reaction in my baby son. Since I have eliminated dairy from my diet I feel so much better its incredible. I used to suffer from IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome) and now its gone. I thought I was allergic to dust as I would sneeze about 50 times when I woke up each morning and have a runny nose all day. People would joke about how easy it was to find me... just follow the soggy tissues! Now that's all behind me. I used to get frequent colds, around 4-6 per year and they were real humdingers. For the first few days my nose would run so badly I would have to walk around with bits of tissues stuck up my nostrils (very attractive)! Then it would all solidify and I would have a stuffy nose and headaches for weeks. Post dairy I get maybe one cold a year, its hardly noticible though, no more gallons of mucous, just a bit of a sore throat. My skin is much clearer, no more breakouts, my face is less puffy and no more dark circles under my eyes. I have lost weight - around 10lbs and have much more energy. To tell the truth, it was a big sacrifice to give up dairy, especially cheese and milk chocolate, but I stopped craving it after a few months. I think perhaps other people have symptoms like the ones I listed above but would never connect it to dairy products (I didn't). I think if anyone gave up dairy they would be surprised and how much better they feel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sandy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Seattle, WA Time: 2000-11-14 20:16:05 Comments: Hey there, great website. Shocking information. I was surfing around trying to find info as to whether my 4 year old son could be allergic to milk. He never was into milk or cheese until recently. Coincedentally, the same time he started liking milk and cheese, he started snoring so loud at night he'd wake the house! We've been out of milk for the past couple days, and lo and behold - He Stopped Snoring!! He's been sleeping great too! Amazing. Now I know that he's not allergic, but just suffering the consequences of ingesting something that is unnatural to our human bodies. It's soy milk for us from now on! Luckily, he loves the stuff! Thanks again! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kelly Glassburn Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Seattle, Washington Time: 2000-11-14 17:29:22 Comments: Milk is icky! What most people don't know, is that humans are the only mammal that continues to drink milk once we're past the "weening" stage. Why must we do this to our bodies? I most definately do NOT "got milk." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Marilyn Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Wisconsin Time: 2000-11-14 14:41:46 Comments: I cannot believe this is true! I used to drink as much milk as possible, but now I dont touch it. I am tring to tell others of this and they dont seem to belive me. I think this should be more public so people know what they are drinking. Thank you for exposing this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sherlette Muhammad Website: Nation of Islam Referred by: From a Friend From: Toledo, Ohio Time: 2000-11-12 11:51:47 Comments: What's the problem with milk? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Cat Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Toronto Time: 2000-11-11 02:19:04 Comments: Wonderful site! I'm desperately trying to find a copy of your book in Toronto... My dad's constantly trying tell me I'm going to die of osteoporosis by the time I'm 40 since I never drank much milk as a child, I'm lactose intolerant. I'm now drinking soy milk, and finding it tastes better, as well. If I had brittle bones, you'd think I'd have broken one in my life... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Marion Schmidt Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: AUSTRIA, Vienna Time: 2000-11-10 16:07:28 Comments: greetings from VIENNA, tell me something about you and where you live ... NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Marion, Today I'm in San Diego, California, where I'll be speaking to the EarthSave group at their annual turkey-free Thanksgiving celebration. Last week, I was in Missouri, and next week I'll be in Ohio. I live in New Jersey, just a few minutes from New York City. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Samantha Website: my webpage Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: kent, wa (by seattle) Time: 2000-11-08 00:59:06 Comments: Hey there. I'm just 15 but I've been vegatarian since I was 12 and vegan since my 15th birthday (june 28). I think of my going vegan a "birthday present to myself" because it has done so much good for me in so many ways. I only wish I became vegan sooner but I wasn't toO informed on it and didn't know excactly what it was or anything but I was refered to your webpage, I forget how though..and right then and there I decided to go vegan and it is the best decision I have ever made. So thanks! Yeh, I'm "going strong" at it and I've convinced so many of my friends to go at least vegatarian so its pretty cool yeh. and I have people I have never even seen before at my school coming up to me asking me about veganism/non-human animal rights. So yeah its pretty cool. Alright then thanks for all the great info! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jim Leach Website: n/a Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Columbus, Ohio Time: 2000-11-07 16:22:21 Comments: I'm a dietary vegan and just wanted to say keep up the good work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Monkey Mary C. Howe Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: my mother's womb Time: 2000-11-07 09:13:11 Comments: Veganism rocks, everybody!!! Some of my friend's and I are going to start holding protests here, in my hometown of Potsdam. I'm psyched to be vegan, cuz it gives me a good conscience, heart, mind, body, and outlook. I just urge those of you who aren't vegan, to give it a whirl. Don't worry you don't eat tofu and beans 'n' rice 24/7. Peace out. Spread the love!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Dawn Martin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: California Time: 2000-11-06 22:16:11 Comments: I am vegan myself, and this is an awesome page for facts on dairy. It gives me support, when there never seems to be much at all. I hope that everyone who reads this website changes their lifestyle and stops eating dairy. Wish we would all just respect the lives of animals and leave them be. There are so many great people out there who care. Hopefully we can all spread the word. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Real God Allah Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Orlando,FL Time: 2000-11-05 09:07:12 Comments: Much Love, Peace, and Happiness to all the human family's who are free from animal diets. To the fact we know why not to eat living animals. Life is the most precious thing on our planet and we need to preserved it for continuoss life. They were not place in the world to be killed or destroy. They were place for the fact to keep our enviroment safe and clean. This beautiful species are like worker because they do work in our enviroment in they own ways. They must be respect and protected from negative forces. So i really support all the different org. who are agaisnt killing animals. Much love and peace to www.notmailk.com and it readers. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share my views. Thank You and please keep our animals safe! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Yvonne Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Maitland Time: 2000-11-04 16:31:40 Comments: Confirmation at last I get sinus from milk and cut it out everyone gasps where are you getting your calcium from? I take calcium tablets and eat lots of vegetables rarely protein. Bonus - I felt great for the last 2 years. "Where are you getting your calcium?" Same place those big-boned COWS get ALL of their calcium... from GREEN PLANTS! To absorb calcium it must be accompanied with an equal amount of magnesium AND vitamin "D". The low amount of magnesium in cow's milk means that only around 8.8 percent of the calcium is usable. This small gain is most likely more than negated by the fact that cow's milk is high in proteins. In a protein-rich diet, such as exists in America and several other countries, more calcium may be LEACHED from the body then is provided by any amount of milk and dairy consumed. Those countries with the highest consumption of meat and dairy also have the GREATEST problem with osteoporosis! If you use calcium supplements... make sure they have an equal measure of magnesium. Then, get some daily sunlight on your skin. Better yet, just eat lots of calcium rich vegetables... see NOTMILK.com for more. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: susan daley Website: Referred by: AOL From: new jersey Time: 2000-11-03 19:15:59 Comments: I have discovered the most fascinating information, and plan to stop contaminating my body with dairy products right now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: David J. Parker Website: Vegetarians of Alberta Association Referred by: From a Friend From: Alberta Time: 2000-11-03 17:25:21 Comments: Dear Robert, I heard you at the WVC in Toronto this summer. I was the guy who cycled to the event. I have written a review of "Milk:The deadly Poison" in our newsletter "The LEADING VEG" and would like to send you a copy. Your e-mail sender doesn't seem to work (hope this does). We and the Calgary group would like to have you come up and speak in Alberta if possible? Howard Lyman has been twice to our EARTH DAY event at a park in Edmonton. Is this a possibility? EARTH DAY is 22 April. DJP ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Peter Martin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Colorado Time: 2000-11-02 21:43:55 Comments: I have also done some research into the cattle industry and was completely astonished at the treatment of cattle. I am currently converting to veganism, and am finding it extremely hard to find non-dairy, or non-animal products in the local Safeway. I'm interested in dairy's relation to acne and zits. I'm currently considering Accutane, and am now wondering if dairy products have contributed to my pimples(along with genes, etc). As a 20 year-old CSU student who has recently found salvation through punk rock music, I can say I'm converting to veganism for every cow, pig, and chicken out there- their CAUSE. "When you know what you know is right, when you feel what you can't ignore, when you try so hard to point the blame, what are we doin' it for, THE CAUSE!" -NOFX ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Curious George Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-11-02 18:56:38 Comments: I would like some discussion about calcium supplements. I take a liquid calcium supplement that has magnesium....on occassions, & also give it to my child. Are the amounts of calcium requirements stated by the government the apropriate amounts for vegetarians? I figure since meat & dairy eaters eat high protein, this would reduce the amount of calcium their body could absorb and they would need to eat higher mgs of calcium in order to get all they needed. I am assuming these requirments were based on getting calcium from dairy. So i figured, well if you eat calcium through plant sources only, you would need much less, since the plant calcium is absorbed easier.Hope this is clear. Anyway, now i worry about too much calcium with the supplement & the stress possibly caused of the elimination of the extra calcium might cause. At the same time, some times I feel my child does not get the 250-300mg he probably needs for his age through his food alone. I could not get the required 1,500 mg from my food alone, I would have to eat never ending....I sure would like to clarify this or at least get some idea, if this is correct or not, totally confused now.. I know a new line of vitamins(forgot name)that are completely vegetable based, (or whole foods), and do contain a very low amounts of calcium, based on this plant calcium absorbability concept. Thanks.. Provide a valid Email address and we will be happy to provide some comments and suggestions. By the way... that 1200mg is a dairy industry "tweaked" number. Guess where those big boned cows get ALL of their calcium (Yeah, from plants!). Check out this page. Or... Email your questions to Mr. Cohen Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Annie and Ray Smith Website: Natural Tree Furniture Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Rockford, Illinois Time: 2000-11-02 18:05:54 Comments: YOU ROCK!!!! Wish I could have found you 10 years ago when I became a Step Mother to a very sickly little 3 yr. old boy who suffered reoccurring ear infections - and had been over medicated with antibiotics by his pediatrician (and the biological mother). My own personal experiences as a mother I knew to take MILK out of his diet... Everyone... EVERY ONE! fought with me and encouraged him to drink a glass when I wasn't in the room... (GRRRR) I didn't give up. Instead, I substituted natural juices and herbal teas, almonds and calcium rich veggies - even purified Water... which proved to be his saving grace - (sorry I rushed through this... hope everyone can get the jest of it.) Cows Milk isn't for HumanBeans! PERIOD! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Steve Lopez Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Florida Time: 2000-11-02 18:05:53 Comments: I was looking for general info. My neice was just diagnosed with autoimmune diabetes and she is very young. My mother heard about this site and asked me to look it up for her. On her 1st birthday checkup when children are vaccinated she also got off formula and on milk. We beleive this combination has lead to her diabetes. We have stopped all dairy products and are hopeing to reverse this condition. I will keep you informed of the progress. Great site.....keep up the good work. Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Raúl M. Iglesias Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: New York Time: 2000-11-02 17:27:17 Comments: trying to go dairy free, almost there. I want to be more educated and be able to educate other people ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Peter Fulda Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Michigan Time: 2000-11-02 16:02:47 Comments: Here's how I had fun reading 'Milk the Deadly Poison'. I can't ever remember having this many people listen to me with such open ears on vegan issues. Cohen couldn't have named this book more appropriately. During two recent business trips I took it with me to read, and since the title looked sure to rattle a few peoples' thinking, decided to keep it as visible as possible in airports and planes. Wherever I'd be walking, especially getting on and off planes, I'd hold the book so that the title was in the glance of as many pairs of eyes as possible. Between the two trips, getting on and off eight different planes, I must have been approached by at least a dozen people about the subject matter, and most eagerly wrote down the Notmilk website without me telling them to. What a way to fall into conversations with complete strangers! Did I ever have a ball! Next time I travel by air, I will try the same thing with Gail Eisnitz' 'Slaughterhouse' even though I've already read it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Gaetano Cichy Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: New York Time: 2000-10-30 22:38:59 Comments: Keep up the great work. Just read your book, Milk- the deadly poison. I'm on board all the way now. NO DAIRY! And I'm an activist for the cause! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Miranda Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Upstate New York Time: 2000-10-30 18:05:51 Comments: I've always wondered if the push for Americans to drink milk was a scam. I'm doing my term paper on how dairy products are not as good for us as we believe. Thank you for this web page, its been making my research go by much more easily. It has also caused some raised eyebrows. Now I'll experiment with cutting out dairy and see how I feel. I am a runner with asthma and this could possibly be the cause. Thanks again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Earl Dennis Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Idaho Time: 2000-10-30 14:13:00 Comments: I was reading about the notorious "vegie Liable Law". I live in Idaho one of the states to pass such garbage. I see an interesting chance for national out cry. Idaho State University is a small University located in Pocotello,Idaho. Maybe it is time to entice a small town thinker to carry the tourch for Monsanto and the Solid Milk Producers. It would even be more commical considering Monsanto's sizable economic prevalance in out region. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Karen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-30 10:36:42 Comments: Thank you for a great site, I find it very informative. I notice that there are a few messages from milk farmers giving their point of view (which they are entitled to) but with a not very objective one at that!! It makes me wander why they are looking at this site in the first place - curiosity or just sheer antagonism??!! I have done the research myself on milk..No matter what you milk farmers say, cause you will only praise it cause it is your welfare...and welfare being a HUGE issue. It's not normal to drink other animal's milk. So it is okay for a cow to be constantly pregnant to sustain a human satisfaction?? Personally I would not like to be constantly pregnant and my breasts pumped.. the sheer thought makes me sick!!I used to be a great cheese and milk lover, but had alot of stomach problems. I am now vegan, and have never been healthier. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carla Russell Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Kansas Time: 2000-10-30 02:06:39 Comments: Human's are omnivores - basic science hasn't changed that much since I was in school. We haven't needed to rip flesh from bone for thousands and thousands of years, thanks to our superior intellect and manipulative hands. We can cook, and have learned how to domesticate and raise our prey. No other species protects another at the expense of it's own survival. Cattle have a rumen, horses have a cecum - all to digest grasses and fiber, converting the forages into protein the rest of the food chain can utilize - it's just all part of the big picture. And what's all this talk about the dairy farmer and big bucks? I sold my last cow the first of September - there just wasn't any money to be had milking cows, either as a herd owner or hired milker. So now I am working the night shift making bumper stickers - what a contribution to society. But I have lots more money, insurance, and three day weekends! Three things I did without for a long, long time. And sleep! And a social life. Like the bumper sticker says 'Don't cuss a farmer with your mouth full'. The ag industry is in dire straits - you should all appreciate the safe, abundant, and let's not forget inexpensive, food that the American farmer has provided. It may be every man for himself sooner rather than later. If you want good health, get plenty of exercise, rest, always fasten your seatbelt, and quit smoking. There are over 400 people where I work - and honestly, the healthiest ones are the milk drinkers. The heavy (many very heavy) do the soda thing, and have baskets of candy at their desks and light tables. It's pathetic. They are the ones who take the most sick days. I run circles around the most fit, and I'm 44 years old! My diet has been creamy, whole milk, straight from the cow for the past fifteen years. A lot of it. Tell me again - why has that been bad for me? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Luis Jose Castro Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Bronx , New York Time: 2000-10-30 01:13:25 Comments: I would like more info on soy cheeseand other soy product and where to get them. My address is 1525 WALTON AVENUE APT 4F Bronx, New York 10452 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rick Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Havasu, AZ Time: 2000-10-30 00:31:22 Comments: I've stopped drinking milk some time ago. It was a little harder to get my two children and wife off the stuff. I think the thing that got them was, "what other adult animal drinks milk?" They couldn't come up with any. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Bruce S. Kern Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Reading, Pa. Time: 2000-10-29 19:56:18 Comments: This man is doing a great service! I have been on the John A. McDougall program for a month and have lost 16 pounds and feel wonderful. Dr. McDougall allows no animal or dairy products. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: naida c. allison Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: king city, oregon Time: 2000-10-28 22:25:02 Comments: can i e-mail people i don't know and tell them to go to NOTMILK.COM? i just want to inform as many people as possible about the horrors of milk products.if i get 1 out of 50 to stop using dairy products it is a start.i've gone from "coke glasses" to reading glasses in the 2 1/2 years since i have gone off dairy.lost 80 pounds also.i also don't eat any meat.i am 60 years of age. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Clint McCoy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-27 02:38:39 Comments: Yes I know all about SCC, I am a dairy farmer too. I know all about it and my operation depends upon low SCC as a source of increased gross revenue. Our dairy's milk buyer pays a premium for low SCC. Thus, there is an incintive for low SCC in the milk we produce and we go to great lengths to produce "clean" milk for that premium. We are not just poor "dust bowl" farmers-we are business men. We are after a living just like every suit wearing, tie sporting guy on Wall Street and we go for profits. You all say we are $-driven but in reality we are just trying to make an honest living while people like you give us a bad reputation. However, your latest response on your guest book is nothing more that an avoidance of the truth. You did not address the facts I have presented because you know that true, factual science cannot be corrected.--The Milkman Sigh... Between www.notmilk.com and www.hungerstrike.com there are over 400 WEB pages of valid information. Common sense should hint that the body fluids from ANOTHER SPECIES are not meant for human consumption. Especially something designed as SHORT TERM nutrition packed with growth hormones and COW-SPECIFIC immunizing agents. However... more to the point... here is what the USDA says about cow's milk... along with what they have chosen to omit from WHOLE MILK! Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ed Reggi Website: Actor: Ed Reggi Referred by: From a Friend From: Brooklyn, New York Time: 2000-10-27 02:31:02 Comments: I just heard Mr. Cohen speak a few weeks ago in Kansas City. I must say it was eye opening and changed my diet. Before I didn't twice about eating cheese in my veggie diet. Born very lactose intolerant I never craved the taste of cow's milk but always tempted by the creamy taste of Ice Cream and deserts. I never understood why I suffered so much afterwards! I learned why! His book is so powerful and straight-forward! I am learning to avoid the milk totally and not pick up that cheese meal anymore. And I took his challenge of not eating a milk product for more than two weeks and he was right--I do not suffer from the time-to-time cold-like hackers cough problems in the mornings. Its really working! Thanks Robert! Ed Reggi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: n/a Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: earth citizen Time: 2000-10-27 02:16:07 Comments: Glad to see you are taking on Organic milk producers next. Did anyone catch last issue of organic gardening? They should call it Organic Husbandry. They are pushing so much the meat & dairy industry? I know, from inside information that, Maria Rodale is real tight with those dairy farmers. I wish she would just stick to vegtables, & forget the other agendas. She is trying to make organic meat & dairy seem like health food. They are almost as devastating to our health, and equally harmful to our environment, just one small step less toxic...Did you catch their first issue of their new Organic Life style magazine, pushing MILK, etc. I really like the magazine & wish they would stick to the green stuff. Why not an article about calcium from greens?...While i'm rolling i think i will write to protest..When are they scheduled to take the BGH off the market? Will they issue you an apology, & maybe some compensation? Glad to see the journalists won their battle, against Monsanto. I have to visit more often, I see lots is happening, good luck & keep up the excellent work. No name this time, it would give away my insider source....but i'm a regular... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Clint McCoy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-26 21:59:49 Comments: Who are you all trying to fool anyway? Teenage girls who think "milk is bad because this suit-and-tie-guy tells us it is"? Really! I read your some of your arrticles on zits and their ties with dairy consumption and the connetion between the two is a mere grasp at straws. You say somatic cells are actually "pus" cells. Then you inturn call milk "pus". Somatic cells are by definition any of the body cells other than germ cells. It's a general term! Humans have millions of somatic cells in their body at all times, be them milk drinkers or asetic vegans. The somatic cells from milk are not LIMITED to milk. They are in every living creature. They are not just "pus" as you so put it. Zits are not caused form dairy consumption-that is an out right untruth. Zits are caused by infections of sebecus glands in the skin that produce sebecum, or as you say "pus". Also, you are quoted as saying "mucus and phlegm are produced as a result of cheese consumption". Mucus is produced by the body naturally as a means of natural body function. Your implying that if you stop eating cheese then mucus is not produced by the body which is outright blasphmey. Instead of reporting information in a way that it "just sounds good", why don't you all report everything in a way that it really is. Oh, but that might not make "facts" correlate to your cause.--The Milkman NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Clint, Every dairy farmer in America is aware of the phrase: "Somatic Cell Count." The abbreviated form is "SCC" Farmers are paid a premium for milk with a low SCC. Milk with a SCC exceeding 750 cannot legally be sold. That would represent 750,000 cells per milliliter of liquid milk, or 750 million cells per liter. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mr. Scott Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: U of M Twin Cities Time: 2000-10-23 13:48:49 Comments: Mr. Cohen, You are not qualified to corrupt the American Public in the way that you do. I myself started working with cows at a very young age (six years old). I can say that every farmer strives to keep their cows as clean and comfortable as possible. I Must admit you are doing well with your fad. And hopefully like all other Fads your's dies soon. Thank you Pity your mind is already made up and you chose not to read anything... or verify our information (that comes from a wide variety of resources, including the government and the dairy folks). Getting better, or even well ... for FREE, is sort of a "fad", isn't it. However... I am convinced the truth is here to stay! Regards... Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: robert gingras Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: cocoa, florida Time: 2000-10-22 20:20:38 Comments: i heard about this from jerry & pen and went to your seminar today in cocoa beach,,,i must say i was pleasantly impressed, and will never look at dairy products the same way again, esspecially milk. i went shopping with my wife afterward at publix and saw a friend, i was telling her about my experience, and another person wanted to hear more, so i directed him here to your web page,,,my heart and my prayers go with you always, thanks, robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: joe calabresi Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: boston Time: 2000-10-20 09:39:23 Comments: bravo!-- convert the dairy industry into something useful ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Karen Larsen Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: CA Time: 2000-10-18 01:21:22 Comments: I think your website is great. I stopped using dairy products once I found out the real truth about the industry and how detremental it is for your health. Thank You for a wonderful resource to refer to and send to people I know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jamie Lynn Gooley Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: NY Time: 2000-10-17 14:08:31 Comments: I think there are a lot of great tools and info on your web-site. I think there should be a bigger section on what to so about the problem and how to live a milk free life. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kinsey Hayman Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Idaho Time: 2000-10-17 11:33:21 Comments: Wow this site is so full of wonderful information I wish my health teacher would update his lectures. Right now he lecutures the importance of getting your "3 glasses of milk a day". He needs to do some research. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Allison Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-15 17:45:10 Comments: Thanks for easing my doubts about not drinking milk. You have made the choice a much easier one! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Beverly Benchoff Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Houston, Texas Time: 2000-10-14 23:31:12 Comments: This is a great site. I'm glad I found it. I like all of the comments I'm reading. It would be nice to know who's single and looking to meet someone vegetarian and compatible. You should think about some type of introduction or dating service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Hedda Schmutz Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-14 10:07:40 Comments: Thank you for doing this. Have you had repercussions form the dairy industry? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Suzanne Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Kansas City, MO Time: 2000-10-14 09:38:01 Comments: Enjoy your site and am amazed by your passion. I am one of the few registered dietitians who believes meat and dairy are not worthy of the "food pyramid". I am currently working on my master's degree in nutrition and am amazed by the bias from some of my professors. I speak my mind in class and everyone looks at me as if I am from Mars (I really am). I plan to one day teach at the university level and educate future dietitians about the politics of food. I am married with 3 children who are being raised vegan. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Clint McCoy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-12 01:10:53 Comments: Really, you "people" crack me up. As of the last few weeks, I have been busting my butt studying for my admittance into veterinary college. As I stand now, I can say that I am shocked! Your "scientific" studies still have not improved since the last time I visited your site. One of your articles sited hairy heel warts as causing disease in humans and great comfort in cattle. WRONG! Hairy heel warts are strictly a Bovine METABOLIC disease and they have no effect on milk production at all. If you people knew anything about laction biology you would never print this slandor. And your facts about mastitis and 5% of all on farm cows have mastitis-they are true! Congrats!! You just found out what all dairy farmers know anyway! Mastitis is a disease brought on by infection of the mamarry glands of a dairy cow. Mastitis does not come from milk production, it comes from bacterial infection of a cow's mammary system from the outside environment namely Streph and Staph. Both of these are treated readily on farm and are very common occurances. And lung worms in humans???? Give me a freaking break! They don't even occur in cattle on a clinical basis! How can they then be passed to the milk supply?? Even if they did occur readily in cattle, the lungs have no effect on lactation other than supply of oxygen to the system. I also read your "study" of diabeatis. Basically, IDDM(insulin dependent diebeatitis meteritis) is caused by a decrease in beta-cell function in the pancreas. The beta cell cannot produce enough insulin to support normal bodily function! How can you blame that on MILK??? YOU CANNOT!! And Type II diabatis is caused by what I tend to call "big person's disease".. In other words, being fat caused a lowered sensitivity to insulin from the pancreas. Being "BIG" causes the body's pancreas to ignore the intake of carbohydrates. In general, fat people, for lack of a better term, have no significant raise in NIDDM than do "slim people". That is nothing to do with MILK product consumption!! Fat people just don't get that way from consuming milk products!!! Its called lack of exercise and family history of obesity!! And, like I have said before, its called brainwash from scare groups like you folks that try to undermine the deeply rooted American Dairy Industry. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: One wonders why somebody who already "knows it all" has to "bust his butt" studying as you admit you do. You miss the point of my LUNG WORM column. I merely reviewed the ads contained in HOARD'S DAIRYMAN. There are hundreds of bovine diseases I could have reviewed. If companies advertise their products, one must assume that animals have the diseases. BOTTOM LINE Humans drink body fluids from diseased animals in the name of good health. Those body fluids can contain PRIONS (the cause of mad cow disease), bovine leukemia virus (which passes to other species), bovine immunodeficiency virus, paratuberculosis (irritable bowel syndrome and Crohn's). One day you may learn a little more than you wish to admit to in vet school. Although Staphlococcus Aureus is killed by pasteruization, the toxin it secretes into milk is not. You may learn that listeria lives in cheese for up to six months, and takes up to 45 days to culture in the human body before the first symptoms (vomiting, diarrhea, high temperature) are observed. The idea of eating the lung worm-infected flesh from animals is offensive to most people, Clint. That tickle in one's chest...that permanent cough may very well be caused by a wiggly friend. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Haseena Napier Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Sioux City (at the moment) Time: 2000-10-11 10:16:33 Comments: I am a Midwestern women who has always seen something wrong with humans attitudes towards animals and the idea of using them, for any thing. At this point in time, we as humans have the ability to survive on this earth with out harming other beings. It seems illogical to me (and barbaric) to continue to use animals for our cloths, food, pleasure and humor (as with circuses and zoos). I try not to judge other people for their decisions. No one is going to change through my anger and disgust. We each have the responsibility to educate ourselves and not take the word of industries that are suppose to protect us, like the FDA. The next step is to lovingly and gently teach those around us the things we have learned. I think I can change the world, and that is where it starts, with me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Joni Walkingstick Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Texas Time: 2000-10-11 03:26:11 Comments: Love your site. I just turned vegan, and your site only reinforces my reasons why. Thank you so much for all your efforts and for being involved in such an important cause! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ian Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Austin, TX Time: 2000-10-10 03:42:18 Comments: I just read the recent e-mail about crossing human and pig DNA. Perhaps for Episode 3 of the Star Wars saga scientists will genetically engineer alien creatures instead of having to CGI them! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Scott Dunkle Sr. Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Portland, Or. Time: 2000-10-10 03:08:11 Comments: Caught you on Mary Staret's radio talk show in Portland, Or. KPDQ 800AM Good job with your choice of "Notmilk.com". You have one of the few URL's I've been able to remember while I listen during my work day and certainly one of the best. The opening page is very good too. Clean and concise and quick. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Staci Website: Natural Mothering Referred by: From a Friend From: Indiana Time: 2000-10-09 14:36:57 Comments: Wow. My life has changed since first being introduced to your site. We now are a completely vegan family thanks mostly to YOUR influence. Thank you for providing this accurate information for concerned people today. I know it must seem futile at times, but please press on. =0) I am grateful, as are my children, for your efforts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Teri Lioi Website: Something to do with mind, body and soul Referred by: From a Friend From: Florida Time: 2000-10-09 10:55:44 Comments: Bravo to you and yours. I have been a vegan for over a year. Thanks, to you and EarthSave. My soul even speaks louder and I feel fantastic. Lost 20 lbs. as an added bonus. Thanks for doing what you do! TGL ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Tracie Johnson Website: Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement From: Detroit Time: 2000-10-09 10:20:30 Comments: Carnivores eat strictly meat, so they depend on other animals for nutrition. Carnivores have teeth also to be able to rip open flesh. Herbivores make their own food from water and sunlight, so they don't have to eat another plant to get nutrition because they make it themselves. No, our bodies were not built to eat meat. The original food was raw fruits and vegetables. We can't eliminate meat correctly because it takes too long to digest. Because it's foreign to the body. It has no nutrition. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: G. Ray Welz Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Shafter, CA Time: 2000-10-09 00:51:28 Comments: You certainly have some very educated viewers/readers. Impressive responses to your question, and from all over the world. I believe that man is both a herbivore and a carnivore. Without checking my textbooks omnivore comes mind. Depending on the refinement of the individual the extent to which one can tolerate foods with prior trial differs greatly. Probably the more important question is how is the physical activity. The more I read the less I know, but I do know that without proper rest and exercise no matter what your diet consists of you are probably not healthy. Man does have incisors which could be considered by one of your winners to be a predator feature. Keep up the good work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carol Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: denver Time: 2000-10-09 00:44:36 Comments: I adore your site! I have learned sooo much from this site and so many books. I just wish that my friend would come to this site. Her and her family eat meat and dairy products at EVERY meal And her mom doesn't believe anything that i tell her even with the facts. I know that I can't tell people how to live their lives I just wish that they would listen. And thank you again!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Vicki Cosio Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: California Time: 2000-10-08 23:17:07 Comments: Herbivore: eats a plants based diet (only), doesn't cause any animal suffering, and doesn't harm the environment! A compassionate individual! Carnivore: eats animal flesh, contributes to the pain and suffering of billions of animals, and causes much harm to the environment! Destroys the rain forest with their hamburgers (55 acres per hamburger). The human body is not meant to digest meat. It takes 5 days for meat to pass through the colon! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jan Jenson Website: not completed yet... Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Statesville, NC Time: 2000-10-08 22:56:24 Comments: I eagerly read ALL your emails - and often send them on to anywhere from two to 100's of friends, depending upon your subject matter. I don't care if they subscribe for themselves - I BELIEVE in your mission and have added it to mine - which is helping others improve their health. Knowledge is the key. You never know what will trip someone's trigger - and they will join our mission! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Angela Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Buffalo NY Time: 2000-10-08 22:27:49 Comments: Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" No. Actually the human body evolved eating plants. Vegetables, fruits, nuts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Don Mossman Website: Mossman Music Referred by: NewsGroups From: Ohio Time: 2000-10-08 19:39:48 Comments: Thank you for all that you do. I would pity anyone who had to debate you in support of humans consuming dairy products. I am glad you are there! Maybe the dairy monster can be dismantled one customer at a time! Peace, etc, Don Mossman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kathy Stranc Website: Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement From: Utah Time: 2000-10-08 19:20:21 Comments: Does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" In the book, Diet for a New America, John Robbins goes into depth explaining the difference between the digestion for a carnivore and a human, which he stipulates is an herbivore. First, the bowels are strikingly different. A carnivore has smooth stovepipe shaped bowels, while humans, who are designed to eat veggies, have puckering and pouching. Food goes through the carnivore's system faster. In our bowels, food can get caught in the pouches and putrefy. Fiber keeps the food moving. There is no fiber in meat. Fiber is in fruits and vegetables, beans and grains. Statistics clearly show that the more meat and the less fiber we humans eat, the more likely we are to get colon cancer, while eating meat does not bother dogs and cats at all. My dogs gets sick if he eats too much fruits and vegetables, and he will throw them up. In fact, dogs and other carnivores eat grass to clean out their stomachs. Anyone with a cat or dog has seen them do this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Peter Fulda Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Novi, MI Time: 2000-10-08 12:22:42 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) 1. A predator’s teeth are long, sharp and pointed. These are tools that are useful for the task of piercing into flesh. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's teeth are not pointed, but flat edged. These are useful tools for biting and sectioning. 2. A predator’s jaws move up and down, not sideways. These are tools that are useful for the tasks of ripping and tearing flesh for ingestion. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's jaws move up and down, and especially, sideways. These are tools that are useful for the tasks of crushing, grinding and chewing grains and high fiber foods. Animal flesh cannot be crushed, ground and chewed with the tools Mother Nature gave man without some degenerating process such as cooking or frying. 3. A predator’s saliva is highly acid and geared for the process of digesting animal protein. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's saliva is alkaline, geared for the process of digesting starches. 4. A predator’s stomach secretes digestive enzymes with ~10 times the amount of hydrochloric acid than a stomach such as man’s or any other plant eater's does. Hence, man must prepare his meats with laborious cooking or frying methods. E coli bacteria, salmonella, campylobacter, trichina worms [parasites] or other pathogens wouldn’t survive in the stomach of a lion. 5. A predator’s small intestine is perhaps three times the length of its trunk. This is a tool designed for rapid expulsion of food that rots quickly. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's small intestines are perhaps twelve times the length of its trunk, and winds itself back and forth in random directions. This is a tool designed for keeping food in it for long enough periods of time so that all the valuable nutrients and minerals can be extracted from it before it enters the large intestine. 6. A predator’s large intestine is a relatively short pipe. This passage is relatively smooth and runs fairly straight so that fatty wastes high in cholesterol can easily slide out before they start to putrefy. Man’s, as well as other plant eater's large intestines, or colons, is a puckered, baggy apparatus that runs in three directions [ascending, traversing and descending], designed to hold wastes that originally were foods high in water content. This is so that the fluids can be extracted from these wastes, now that all the useful nutrients and minerals have been extracted and the long journey through the small intestine is over. Substances high in fat and cholesterol that have been putrefying for hours during their long stay in the small intestine tend to get stuck in the pockets that line the large intestine. Instead of getting moisture to suck up, these little pockets get smothered by that slimy goo, turning the colon into a toxic dump site within the human body. 7. Animal flesh, composed of the most highly complex type of protein that exists, requires vast amounts of uric acid to process. Uric acid is released into the system in amounts necessary to break proteins down into amino acids. Uric acid, is a toxic substance responsible for the aging process must be flushed out and dealt with. That is one of the jobs of the liver. In relative terms, a predator’s liver is a tool designed with the capacity to eliminate ten times as much uric acid as the liver of man or that or other plant eater. 8. A predator has a gait, large paws and claws which enable him to hunt, chase and trap his prey. These are tools meant to kill. Man’s gait, as well as other plant eater’s is designed only for mobility. Examine your hand, fingers and fingernails. Is this an apparatus properly designed for catching, trapping, killing and ripping apart cattle, hogs, chicken and fish? How does this work for picking fruit from trees or harvesting vegetables. The foods your hands were meant to gather are typically high in water content, high also in fiber to sweep the wastes out of those intestines and collectively contain every vitamin and mineral necessary to sustain human life. 9. A predator’s frame of mind is totally geared for hunting and killing. Man's frame of mind that is compassionate, friendly and reveres life. When the lion spots another furry animal, something might instinctively click in his head that tells him to hurry up and get dinner. When man spots a furry animal, rather than show his children how to take its life and eat it, a more likely instinct is to pull out the camera to take a picture. 10. Man is not a natural hunter. Every predator, in order to go hunting, MUST be hungry. Man cannot go hunting if he is hungry, he must have a meal first. Hunger must precede a predator to go hunting. Hunger must follow man's desire to go hunting, it cannot precede it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Howard Jones Website: My Netscape Referred by: NewsGroups From: SLC, UT Time: 2000-10-08 11:20:02 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) In humans, the length of time the waste stays in the bowel seems to be a causitive factor for colon cancer. High fiber diets protect against colon cancer. Without fiber, the waste material remains in the colon longer, giving the bowel wall more time to absorb toxins. Fiber also aids in flushing out cacinogens. Meat digestion produces a lot of acids in the bowel. One of these is deoxycholic acid which becomes carcinogenic in the digestion process. Meat eaters have a much greater amount of this acid, in the bowel, than do vegetarians. So, human intestines have difficulty dealing with the high fat and low fiber, and are designed very differently from carnivores like cats and dogs. These animals have intestines which allow for much quicker passage of waste through the intestines. Human bowels are long and wind back and forth whereas carnivore bowels are smooth and short for quick elimination of waste. Carnivores therefore are not subject to colon cancer as are humans. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sonia Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Canada Time: 2000-10-08 11:16:18 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) This pasage is taken from David Wolfe's Sunfood Diet Success System, pages 439 to 441, 1999. ((the information below answers the question on the physiology of carnivores and herbivores - although I personnally believe humans to be primarily fruitarians)) "Carnivore Teeth are long, sharp and pointed. No flat molar teeth. Sharp canine teeth. To facilitate tearing and biting, jaw can move up and down (vertically). No lip or pouchy cheek structure. Shape of the face allows the carnivore to dig into a carcass and rip out the entrails. Forward facing eyes: binocular vision. Drinks water by lifting it into the throat with the tongue. Tongue is rough and thin. Zonary placenta. Intestines are three times as long as the trunk of the body; their design facilitates rapid explusion of fleshy matter. Liver contains uricase, an enzymes used to break down uric acid; it breaks down 10 to 15 times as much uric acid as an herbivore. Bowel are smooth and short for quick explusion of waste matter. Digestive system has the capacity to expel amounts of foreign cholesterol. Saliva is acidic. Blood is acidic. Urine is acidic. Cools itself primarily through action of the tongue and mouth (panting). All four feet are clawed (to rip into flesh). Herbivore Front and canine teeth may be sharp or pointed. Back teeth are flattened for grinding. To facilitate the grinding of vegetable foods, jaw can move both up and down (vertically) and side to side (horizontally). Adaptable lip and pouchy cheek structure. Shape of the face allows animal to pull vegetation off the plants. Herbivores with predators: radial eyeset allowing for wide field of vision. Herbivores without predators: forward facing eyes; binocular vision. Drinks water by suction. Tongue is smooth and thick to manipulate vegetable matter into the back molars for grinding. Placenta non-deciduate. Intestines are at least 8 to 12 times as long as the trunk of the body; they are designed for extracting all nutrients from fiber plant. Liver has a low tolerance for uric acid. Bowels are sulcified and complex for the reconstitution of waste matter. Digestive system has no capacity to expel foreign choleterol. Saliva is alkaline; it contains enzymes specifically designed to break down starchy carbohydrates. Blood is alkaline. Urine is alkaline. Cools itself primarily through perspiration. All four feet are hoofed (cloven) or hands and feet contain individual digits (fingers or toes) with nails." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: RB Baker Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Culpeper VA Time: 2000-10-08 10:37:22 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) Regarding humans and consumption of both vegetable matter and meats: First- The teeth of land dwelling meat eaters are typically sharp, with incisors designed to cut meat easily. (I will use cats as my example here.) Cats typically do not chew their food well, but rather cut of a hunk of meat, and swallow it whole. The teeth of plant eaters are more typically blunt, even the front teeth. They are designed for grinding and pulverizing vegetable matter. This leads to the next part of the meat vs. plant question- the length of the intestines. In creatures that are strictly meat-eater, such as cats, the intestines are relatively short. (Cats just bite and swallow.) Animals that eat plant material have much longer intestines. They chew their food more completely, using the previously mentioned flat molars. The food they eat remains in the digestive track longer, allowing the more complete digestion needed. Ever notice what a cat does do "clean out" its stomach? It eats grass- and soon vomits it. The final point here deals with populations of differing animals. Those that typically have a stabile exisistence, will have less offspring. Horses and people usually have one offspring at a time. The food supply (vegetable matter) is constant, being all around us. Cats however, are more dependant on availablilty of meat, and have to have more offspring to offset changes in the food supply and insure survival. (Population is not solely determined by food, but there is a strong connection.) Human teeth include both incisors and molars. Our incisors are not pronounced, whereas we do have an extensive set of molars for plant material. This indicates we can eat both meat and plant, but are more readliy adapted for plant consumption. Our intestines are moderately long, indicating again that a plant-eating diet for humans is better, if not necessarily exclusive of meat. The offspring of humans again suggests that we are more stable, which is due in part to the supply of vegetable matter that is available on a relatively consistent basis. So the fact that we can get sustainence from many foods needs to be considered in the following light- the tropic (food) pyramid suggests that only one-tenth of the total energy of the previous level is transferred to the next level. This means that is takes ten times the amount of energy to sustain each level up on the pyramid. So those at the top of the pyramid, receive very little energy from those that are below. But we do get all the dioxines, chemicals and other materials that that were consumed by these animals, which never leave the flesh that we consume. So why not go to the source of the energy that all first level consumers (plant-eaters) go- the plant kingdom? You'll feel better, decrease the levels of concentrated chemicals consumed, give your digestive track a break, increase fiber consumption, and probably lose weight in the process. If you're human - eat vegetables! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-08 09:57:37 Comments: Response to 1938: Quoting; "You have to have some sort of problem with your body (or something) so you can't drink milk." I sure do..... I'm a Human, not a Calf. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Brandon Reyes Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: San Jose CA Time: 2000-10-08 02:14:13 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) MEATEATERS:has claws. HERBIVORES (MAN):no claws MEATEATERS:no skin pores, perspires through tongue HERBIVORES(MAN):perspires through skin pores MEATEATERS:sharp front teeth for tearing. no flat molar teeth for grinding HERBIVORES (MAN):no sharp front teeth has flat rear molars MEATEATERS:intestinal tract 3 times body length so rapidly decaying meat can pass out quickly HERBIVORES(MAN):intestinal tract 10-12 times body length MEATEATERS:strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat HERBIVORES(MAN):stomach acid 20 times strong than meateater Why should we eat anything excreted from any living thing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Terri Cosgriff Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Ohio Time: 2000-10-08 01:33:18 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) A carnivore has sharp pointy teeth and claws used for ripping into flesh, and also short intestines. A herbivore has just the opposite, smooth teeth for grinding and chewing, and a much longer intestines. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: K. C.Ward Website: Referred by: SimpleNet From: Modeswto, CA Time: 2000-10-08 01:00:42 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) The digestive system of a sheep is many times the length of the animal. The digestive system of a cat is only one nad half the length of the animal. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Minnesota Time: 2000-10-08 00:14:49 Comments: thanks for all the info. I gave up eating meat seriously about a year and a half ago, and basically haven't eaten any meat in almost a year. I know a lot of the reasons to give up dairy, and I know meat is not good for you, but I was unsure exactly of why. I gave it up to avoid illness and disease, it's a bummer that it usually takes a health emergency for someone to eat right in america. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Lee Steiner Website: Referred by: AOL From: Dallas Time: 2000-10-07 23:16:12 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) It was asked if humans are carnivores?and how could we tell??Let's take a quick look at the physical differences between carnivores and herbivores....Carnivores-very short intestines, meat quickly enters and exits body, so fermentation due to time in passing doesn't occur. Human intestines: EXTREMELY long. Can take up to 5 days for meat to travel thru. Hmmm.....results??P.U.!! Carnivores-pointy teeth, for ripping and tearing meat apart, the first part of digestion. Human teeth: flat, multi-surfaced, for grinding plants maybe?? Then we get to milk. Now, I realize that this is a NO MILK zone, but name another species that drinks milk, from a different species at all...then continue drinking the breast milk of a different species thru-out it's entire life, well into adulthood??None. I wonder why? Is it so difficult to see that it must not be to our benefit to drink cross-species mammary liquid?Ugh !! Well, I hope that this covers the question, but if you feel I need to elaborate, there are thousands of reasons man should not eat things that have a face. Thanks for letting me sound off !! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Michele Miller Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Baltimore Time: 2000-10-07 22:45:53 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) While the human body can TOLERATE a lot of "crap" we may put into it, a quick look across the animal kingdom shows that we were not physically designed to be carnivores. Like all other animal herbivores, human beings have a long digestive tract, very long! This gives all those wonerful vitamins and minerals found in the plant based diet we should be eating, optimal time to penetrate into our systems and make all of our cells healthy and strong! Every known carnivore, however, has a very small digestive tract. This is important b/c a lot of the unnecessary waste and excess protetin consumed from the meat they eat need to get out of the animal's body ASAP!! The point is we have long digestive tracts like all other Herbivores, not short ones like carnivores! And that's enough for me. Ask my anatomy and physiology professor how important the roles of the digestive tracts are to all walks of LIFE. Humans can eat paper and not die (at least not right a way) from it, but that doesn't mean it's good for us. The same is true about meat, just b/c we don't get sick immediately or die immediately from it does not mean it won't kill us!! Boy I've been wishing and wishing and wishing for a copy of that Book, :o) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carolyn Marchand Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Michigan Time: 2000-10-07 19:58:11 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) Was man designed to eat meat? If you believe the Bible look at Genesis 1:27 and 29: So God created man in his own image...male and female created he them. ...And God said Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food. Or, look at medical statistics on the diseases already connected to diet: Heart problems, cancer, stroke, obesity, diabetes. Even the AMA and dieticians are beginning to "get it" and "talk the talk" but most are not "walking the walk" yet. Better general health and later onset of diseases are powerful arguments for vegan diets. Physical differences in herbivores and carnivores: the digestive tracts are different--herbivores have a longer tract than carvivores to digest all the nutrients and fiber in plant foods. Animal foods lack fiber and so need less length and time to digest. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kerrie Saunders, PhD Website: VeganSpeak Referred by: From a Friend From: USA Time: 2000-10-07 19:54:21 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) There are many important differences between a carnivore and an herbivore. True carnivores have long 'i-teeth'("fangs") for tearing flesh off of bones, very short intestines so that the flesh doesn't rot, saliva and stomach acid which are very acidic when compared to herbivores, and they have predatory habits. Human 'carnivores' have tools to catch, cook, and eat flesh off of bones, and predatory habits. Unfortunately for human 'carnivores', they do not have saliva, intestines, teeth, or stomach acids to match these habits, and therefore are very diseased as a result. An herbivore, by contrast, has flat teeth, long intestines to handle (and need)plant fiber, and saliva and stomach acids that are more alkaline when compared to true carnivores. Herbivores do not prey on any species with a central nervous system or face. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mark Simon Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-07 18:57:12 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) Humans are herbivores. Our teeth, saliva and digestive tract are most suitable for the assimilation of nutrients from fruits, nuts, seeds, herbs and tubers. Our closest evolutionary cousins are primates which are primarily herbivorous. The human digestive system is not well suited for the digestion of coooked aninal protein, refined foods, dairy products, all beverages, artifical colors and flavors and preservatives. The more one deviates from tbe basic principles human nutrition, the more one will suffer from cancer, heart disease, arthritis, premature aging, ED, liver and kidney disease, etc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: E.M.Cinelli Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: 176 Chung Cheng Road, Pai-Ho City 732, Tainan Hsien,Taiwan, R.O.C. Time: 2000-10-07 18:42:41 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) In the evolutionary process of man, today`s scientists are at odds about whether Man is a Herbivore or a Carnivore. In my view Man has deviated from his Natural development as a Herbivore, which means an eater of vegetables, fruits, nuts and berries, and has become a Carnivore, which means an eater of animals, insects, fowl or fish or Omnivore (both Herbivore and Carnivore), out of convenience, custom or tradition, mixed with a lack of understanding of the human body so prevalent in Western societies. 1. It seems that Man`s teeth give a very good clue that he should be a Herbivore because the teeth are not designed to tear open the flesh of living animals but rather to grind sideways to be able to properly assimilate vegetarian food in take, such as nuts, cereals and fruits and vegetables, while flesh eating animals have an "up & down" movement of the jaws, with teeth designed to rip and tear. 2. Another clue seems to be the fact that Man`s intestines are long, about 42 feet, and take over 72 to 96 hours to digest flesh, while only about 16 hours to digest vegetation. This compares well with other" closely related vegetarian primates" in terms of quick digestion. Flesh eating animals usually have shorter intestines, about six feet,and take only 6 hours in order to move through and assimilate the meat quickly. The Human intestines do not seem to be meant to digest meat, since the longer time in the intestines lead to conditions which breed bacteria, viruses and parasites, at the expense of the host (the Human Carnivore), 3. A third reason is the fact that Vegetarian seem to live longer than meat eaters, as reported in many journals citing a Seventh Day Adventist study where it was ascertained that the Seventh Day Adventist lived on the whole at least 7 years longer than meat eaters in the USA. Now many scientific studies are noticing that vegetarians heal faster than meateaters, and that they suffer less life threatening diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson`s, cancer etc., than meateaters. As an example, the great healer,Dr Johanna Budwig,puts her near death patients on a completely vegetarian diet as a strict regimen because the body can assimilate that kind of food better. 4. Lastly, vegetarian fare has live much needed enzymes when eaten raw (or not over cooked) while meat is loaded with animal diseases, including viruses, parasites, bacteria, along with the "dead spirit of animals" that knowingly died horrible deaths, as the Ancients Wisemen knew, Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato and a host of other Western philosophers were vegetarian, as were/are many Eastern philosophers and "Holy men." These are some quick, "off the top of the head" reasons or notions, why I feel that Man was meant to be a Herbivore and not a Carnivore. Is it any wonder why so many people are afflicted with life threatening diseases brought about in the main by a poor choice of food? The old adage, "We are what we eat", should be amended to say ," We are what we assimilate" and when that comes from flesh, it is easy to understand why Man is lucky to live "three score and ten" rather than enjoy a longer and healthier life. One doesn`t have to be a renowned scientist to understand these simple notions, because many people in remote areas of the world still live this way. In fact,it may come as a shock to many people, but most of the world is still vegetarian! Good luck and good eating! E.M. "Mike' Cinelli ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Diane Moreton Website: SAVETHEDOG Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Mars Time: 2000-10-07 18:07:18 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) "Does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Answer: The difference between a herbivore and carnivore is the length of incisors. No, just kidding! Actually there is such a difference, that a human being, being enticed by the taste of animal flesh, is putting himself/ herself at enormous risk of bad health in the form of heart disease and other chronic diseases that typically develop later in a person's life, due to the enormous quantities of saturated fat and cholesterol of others' they consume. Yes, this is quite tempting. I still don't know why God could make such a blunder. Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" Since the length of the lower intestine is several feet shorter than an actual carnivore's, I highly suspect not. If the human body were ever designed to eat other sentient beings, than why not just eat humans? Maybe they taste better than chicken! The Creator gave us plant-based food to keep up healthy and wise, and animal-based 'food' to prove the stupidity of Man. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Gordon W. Watts Website: The Register: Gordon Watts tells of threats & abuses of Social Security Referred by: From a Friend From: Tallahassee Time: 2000-10-07 17:22:20 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) Dear friends, Letter # 1943 (Mike from Minnesota in my NOTMILK guestbook asked: "Does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Is the human body designed to eat animal products?" I will send a FREE BOOK and TAPE (MILK-The Deadly Poison) to the best response posted to my guestbook in the next 24 hours. (Robert, here is my answer. -Gordon) My Answer: (Credit for most, but not all, of this info below goes to Dr. Wayne "The Mango Man" Pickering, whose chart helped me here.) While carnivores (like dogs & wolves) have a short bowel to expel the putrid flesh, our ailamentry canal is long to give good digestion to the plant nutrients, which need slow digestion, breakdown, and uptake. Our intestional bacteria is more like other herbivores' than meateaters'. We don't have fangs! Also, we can grind and mince our food (which carnivores can not do), both indicators of plant eaters. Flesh eaters sweat (like pigs) through their toungs, not their skin! Humans, monkeys, horses, antelopes, & cows sweat through the skin. Carnivores, like the dog, lap water, but humans & other herbivores suck when drinking their liquid! Humans and other plant eaters have ptyalin (also called amylase) in the saliva to begin starch breakdown of plants; meat eaters do not. Carnivores have a much larger liver than herbivores, including humans. Carnivores also produce about ten (10) times the Hydrochloric Acid for digestion of things like bones , meat, feathers, and sinew. Also, if we were truly meat eaters, then we would eat the whole animal RAW as do other flesh eaters, not just the COOKED muscle part, to disguise the taste of it being is DEAD MEAT! But, forget all that: Vegans live longer than vegetarians, who, in turn, live longer than meat-eaters; and fruis and veggies taste better, are less cruel to animals, and a more efficient use of the grain than feeding it to animals, who produce FAR LESS calories than were fed them, becasue a lot of the food fed to them turns into UNUSABLE grissle and bone and stuff. Thus, more hungry people can be fed DIRECTLY by plants than through animals who incur about a ninety-percent (90%) energy efficiency loss! But, reread that "taste better - live longer - peace of mind" stuff above. --Gordon ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Katarina Popovic Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: CLeveland,OHio Time: 2000-10-07 17:32:51 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) I would say that human beings are NOT designed to ingest animal products. If we were truly carnivores, like lions and tigers, why does the idea of killing animals disgust many of us? WHere is our killer instinct when we see a little rabbit hopping across the lawn? Why doesn't our instinct tell us to devour the little creature, capture it and eat it RAW? That is another problem. Human beings always seem to have to cook their meat and process their animal products. True carnivores don't inquire whether a roast should be cooked at 375 degrees and whether they should add salt or pepper. True carnivores also have sharp teeth ( for shredding and ripping ) and very aggressive natures. They also have CLAWS, and are very quick and agile. Shall we include insects that eat other insects? Ever notice what THEY look like? And the talons of a BIRD, which help it clutch on to hapless little insects or fish as it swoops down from the sky? And the vultures that use their beaks to rip into decaying flesh?. All of these characteristics are needed for HUNTING. Herbivores have flatter teeth and they also usually have hands ( like humans and chimpanzees ) or hoofs ( like giraffes and horses). They have softer natures and do not need to be aggressive because what is so hard about picking berries and grazing on grass? The intestinal tract of a carnivore is shorter than that of an herbivore ( we also have longer intestinal tracts ) and we also sweat, as opposed to their panting. Carnivores also manufacture their own vitamin C, while herbivores do not. The fact that there is too much protein in both milk and meat,which causes osteoporosis and other illnesses, should be evidence enough that we should not be eating these products. If these foods were made for us, why are they so detrimental to the body? Why will we get gout, diabetes, asthma, heart disease, fat, and other illnesses if it is so good for us? It just doesn't make any sense. Ninety percent of people in this planet are lactose intolerant, and the other ten percent just "tolerate" it! Why are we drinking milk? These foods are also extremely difficult to digest and can last hours in the stomach, causing people to feel sluggish and rundown. Vegetables and fruits are easily digestable and give us energy right away. And why do nuts and certain fruits contain a lot of fat? I really think because mother nature planned it that way. People complain, oh walnuts, etc., are so fatty, but for a species that was not made to rely on animals for food, these nuts provide the fat,protein and other substances we need and in just the right amounts too! One must look at all the evidence, not just the physical types of herbivore and carnivore, but the variety of food provided by nature, the lifestyle and habitats of certain creatures, etc., to see that we don't need these foods. And who knows, maybe after centuries of poor diet,maybe we have evolved genetic predispositions to certain illnesses? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Barbara Langan Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: NY Time: 2000-10-07 17:02:08 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) I just posted a letter in response to the Herbivore/Carnicore inquiry. Here, I would like to comment that I read the NOTMILK information every day and find it quite interesting... Today, we are faced with many conditions that did not seem to exist (at least in such large numbers) years ago. I am referring, for example, to many more children diagnosed with ear infections, and asthma. Also noted are more cases of ADD and ADHD. I have wonderded if all the immunizations given to modern children were the culprit, along with too many antibiotics. Since getting tuned in to the NOTMILK group, and being more informed about hormones, antibiotics, etc. given to cows....well maybe that is the answer! Now think about the increased number of "newer" conditions such as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, yeast infections...to name but two. It does leave me wondering! While I have not had a glass of milk in 30 or so years, I do sometimes have cheese, so I am not a non-milk person per se. I will continue to read these articles with great interest (and take my calcium supplements!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Frances Bonner Website: none Referred by: AOL From: Ellisville, Missouri Time: 2000-10-07 16:59:43 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) I think the difference in an herbivore and a carnivore is their teeth. A carnivore has fang-like teeth for tearing the flesh of their prey while an herbivore eats only plants and does not need fangs. Humans were not meant to eat meat so do not have the teeth of carnivores. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Barbara Langan Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: NY Time: 2000-10-07 16:45:07 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) A herbivore is an animal that lives on plant matter for food. A carnivore consumes animal products. Humans are categorized as omnivores (eating both plants and animals.) Physically, the teeth are different for herbiovres and carnivores. There are also differences in the gastro-intestinal tract for the two groups, (including varied enzymes.) Based on both grinding teeth (molars) and canines and incisors, I would say that physically, man has adaptations for both plant and animal consumption. Man lacks the ability to digest the cellulose found in plants, so does not derive the same benefit from plants as grazing animals. Based on these few characteristics, (along with enzymes to digest animal products), I say the human body is designed to eat animal products. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: GymnAlice Website: GymnAlice.com Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-07 15:26:32 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) There are several key differences between the bodies of herbivores and carnivores. I will compare my body with that of my dog as an example. My dog has claws and fangs to hunt his prey and tear out its flesh and crunch on its bones. I have nails that wouldn't do much damage to any cow or pig or chicken. I have teeth classified as "canines", but the truth of the matter is that they couldn't rip raw flesh off of bones and eat them. My dog has a stomach designed for eating meat RAW. E. coli and other bacteria don't faze him in the slighest. His body is perfectly equipped to handle them. I must cook meat thoroughly if I am going to eat it, or I run the risk of DYING from salmonella, e. coli, etc. My dog's saliva digests meat, even "on it's way down". If you could train a dog to hold a piece of raw meat on his tongue, it would eventually break down. My saliva does no such thing. If I put a piece of raw meat on my tongue, it would stay the same, until it eventually decayed. Contrast that with an apple, which if I kept in my mouth long enough would completely break down without chewing. My dog's intestines are short and smooth, to elimate meat in a timely fashion. When I feed my dog raw meat, he will eliminate it within a day or so. My intestines are a long and twisted maze. They are not smooth, they have ridges and folds. Decaying meat could get stuck in those ridges and cause me harm. My intestines are built for eating fibrous foods (animal foods have no fiber) which will "sweep" the intestines clean. I feed my dog raw organic meat, for that is his biologically appropriate diet. I feed myself raw fruits and vegetables, and nuts and seeds, for that is my biologically appropriate diet. Makes sense to me :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Craig Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-07 15:38:07 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) Carnivores = sharp teeth for ripping and tearing Herbavores = dull flat teeth for grinding ( despite that human and carnivore teeth share some names, they are not alike at all) Carnivores = short funnel-like digestive tract for rapid transit time and rapid disposal of ingested toxins. Herbavores = long winding ribbed-like digestive tract with millions of places to trap non-fibrous material that rots and causes disease. Carnivores = non-opposable thumbs; can't hold tools, can't farm, eat what is instictive for them to eat. Herbavores = non-opposable thumbs; can't hold tools, can't farm, eat what is instictive for them to eat. Humans = opposable thumbs; can hold tools, can farm, eat what is taught to them to eat. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: marci mccray Website: www.espritunique.com Referred by: From a Friend From: montana Time: 2000-10-07 14:17:59 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) Hi There is a woman, an MD, who has done the research.. even biblical research, regarding humans and the subject of their carnivorous activity... It is, according to this very Knowledgeable woman doc, not natural. We were never meant to be meat eaters... you can check her info by logging on to: www.drday.com. She cured herself of cancer several years back and has much more info to share. Our bodies, teeth and intestinal works are not built to deal with meat, this is a biological fact, not just a preference. Check it out. Even if you don't care whether or not we are meant to eat meat, you should log on to Dr. Day's sight, she has a huge knowledge bank. Happy Eating and NotMilk drinking. Here's to your health!! Ciao. Marci ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: DR EDWARD HARTMAN Website: Referred by: Net Search From: LEVITTOWN PA Time: 2000-10-07 14:31:45 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) The following is what I use in my practice to demonstrate the comparisons between Carnivores, Herbivores, Omnivores, and Humans. If you would like a copy of a full article that explains this in more detail, The Comparative Anatomy of Eating by Milton R. Mills, M.D., just email me and I'll send it to you. GENERAL SUMMARY FACIAL MUSCLES Carnivore: Reduced to allow wide mouth gape Herbivore: Well-developed Omnivore Reduced Human Well-developed JAW TYPE Carnivore: Angle not expanded Herbivore Expanded angle Omnivore: Angle not expanded Human Expanded angle JAW JOINT LOCATION Carnivore: On same plane as molar teeth Herbivore Above the plane of the molars Omnivore: On same plane as molar teeth Human Above the plane of the molars JAW MOTION Carnivore: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion Herbivore: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back Omnivore: Shearing; minimal side-to-side Human: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back MAJOR JAW MUSCLES Carnivore: Temporalis Herbivore Masseter and pterygoids Omnivore: Temporalis Human Masseter and pterygoids MOUTH OPENING vs. HEAD SIZE Carnivore: Large Herbivore: Small Omnivore: Large Human: Small TEETH (Incisors) Carnivore: Short and pointed Herbivore: Broad, flattened and spade shaped Omnivore: Short and pointed Human: Broad, flattened and spade shaped TEETH(Canines) Carnivore: Long, sharp and curved Herbivore: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none Omnivore: Long, sharp and curved Human: Short and blunted Teeth (Molars) Carnivore: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped Herbivore: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface Omnivore: Sharp blades and/or flattened Human: Flattened with nodular cusps CHEWING Carnivore: None; swallows food whole Herbivore: Extensive chewing necessary Omnivore: Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing Human: Extensive chewing necessary SALIVA) Carnivore: No digestive enzymes Herbivore: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes Omnivore: No digestive enzymes Human: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes STOMACH TYPE Carnivore: Simple Herbivore: Simple or multiple chambers Omnivore: Simple Human: Simple STOMACH ACTIVITY Carnivore: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach Herbivore: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach Omnivore: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach Human: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach STOMACH CAPACITY Carnivore: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract Herbivore: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract Omnivore: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract Human: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract LENGTH OF SMALL INTESTINE Carnivore: 3 to 6 times body length Herbivore: 10 to more than 12 times body length Omnivore: 4 to 6 times body length Human: 10 to 11 times body length COLON Carnivore: Simple, short and smooth Herbivore: Long, complex; may be sacculated Omnivore: Simple, short and smooth Human: Long, sacculated Liver VITAMIN A Carnivore: Can detoxify vitamin A Herbivore: Cannot detoxify vitamin A Omnivore: Can detoxify vitamin A Human: Cannot detoxify vitamin A KIDNEY Carnivore: Extremely concentrated urine Herbivore: Moderately concentrated urine Omnivore: Extremely concentrated urine Human: Moderately concentrated urine NAILS Carnivore: Sharp claws Herbivore: Flattened nails or blunt hooves Omnivore: Sharp claws Human: Flattened nails ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Evelyn Blake Website: Blake Marriages Referred by: From a Friend From: WV Time: 2000-10-07 13:53:17 Comments: (Responding to GUESTBOOK letter #1943) A herbivore is a mammal that feeds on herbage. A carnivore is a flesh eater, devours animal substance. The only clean meat is what the Bible says to eat, but I eat very little animal meat! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Noelle de Lioncourt Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Virginia Time: 2000-10-07 10:04:32 Comments: I have been a vegetarian since age 10 (I am now 28), but I have recently gone vegan, because quite honestly, the horrors of dairy farms are even more hushed than the slaughterhouses. Luckily, people are finally realizing that consuming animal flesh is vile an unhealthy, but the dairy industry is still force feeding Americans the false pretense that you need calcium at all hours of the day and that pus-filled milk is the only way to get it!! What a shame, such lies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: minnesota Time: 2000-10-06 22:21:33 Comments: does anyone know the physical differences between a herbivore and a carnivore? Is the human body designed to eat animal products? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Eirik Pontious Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Arizona Time: 2000-10-05 18:18:32 Comments: You people have problems. You quote the bible in your rambling emails, when the bible says that animals were put here for man's use. Do you know what happens to people who don't get enough clacium, they get osteoperosis, thats what. YOu know what forget about that, let me just say this, if you don't want to drink milk, thats fine. But don't preach to people who do about how horrible they are for drinking it. And another thing, i think those cows have a much better life than you think. They are fed, and sheltered, which is a lot more than what a lot of people get. why don't you turn your attention towards helping the homeless or something. Oh yeah one more thing, if you think cows are mistreated for their milk, you better stop eating vegetables to, because they too are confined in an area, given chemicals to make them grow bigger and better, and when they have outlived their usefullness, they are ripped from their home and slaughtered just so they can be eaten. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Biblical scholars agree that heaven on earth was located in the Garden of Eden. Genesis 1:29 reveals the ideal menu for man: "I give you every seed-bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food." I ask you to use your imagination, and visualize a judgement day audience with whomever might be your concept of God. At that one-on-one meeting, there is a buffet table. Do you imagine that there would be rare lambchops dripping with blood, and beef tongue sandwiches? How about pink veal, cut from a baby cow? How about arms and legs from freshly butchered chickens? Ever visit Chinatown? A Chinese God might even include the head. Don't forget to eat the eyes and face. My concept of the last/first supper would include the bounty of those fresh fruits and seeds. There would be ripe dates and olives, corn and apples, bananas and the very ripest of pineapples and mangos. The meal would include walnuts and almonds, and dozens of sprouts. Edible flowers and ripe peas and beans. Dine in heaven, my friend, and eat those fruits with the brightest of colors, and the sweetest of perfumes and bouquets. Reject the dead flesh, which contains those hormones secreted at the moment of a fearful and stressed death. Eat a diet of foods with life including fresh enzymes. Let the live food nourish your cells and spirit. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: LIL Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-04 16:42:34 Comments: You know it's got to be risky to speak out on the Dairy industry and their high pressure sales...But somebody has to do it. Thanks for the alternative ideas. How can we empower farmers to return to the very small farm with integrity? Maybe we need to just get smaller and more inter-dependent with a little garden here and a little goat herd there and share the good of the land together. One things for certain, we need the Truth or we will have nothing to trust. And I know from experience that the animals in large dairies suffer from abuse!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Christina Laumbattus Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-10-04 11:08:20 Comments: This site was very interesting and helpful, but I would like to read about dairy and weightloss. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jennifer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: nj Time: 2000-10-03 22:37:26 Comments: Thank you for an informative site. You have helped me make a great healthy decision for my family with the info you provided. I do find it funny how upset people get if you try to tell them that the milk they drink isn't a good as they have been told it is all their life. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: A Milk Drinker Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: A Dairy Place Time: 2000-10-03 16:34:36 Comments: Hello, I thinkt that whoever actually believes this stuff, you care crazy!!! You have to have some sort of problem with your body (or something) so you can't drink milk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Aimee Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: San Jose, CA Time: 2000-10-02 10:27:17 Comments: I have been coming to your web site for quite some time now (since I read your book), maybe two years, and I just wanted to say thanks. I learn something new with each visit and my committment to being vegan is renewed each time. I'm several months pregnant now and I LOVE telling people about my wonderful vegan pregnancy! Oh, the shock and horror I experience from people, but I'm spreading the NotMilk word! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jozi Website: - Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Florida, United States Time: 2000-10-02 07:14:11 Comments: i was attracted by the titile of the webpage and i deciede to have a look at what's in here. I found the content and information useful and rather intersting but the graphics are rather offending. i do think that it's an insult to the milk industry. Afterall, milk has been a part of everyone's life for such a long time! Jozi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ray Mitchell Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Michigan Time: 2000-10-01 13:08:20 Comments: It's very disturbing to realize that my cardiac transplant,as well as my stint with insulin dependence, was quite possibly due to consumption of dairy products. It really is deplorable that GREED endangers the world's populace. SHAME on the dairy producer and the politician for allowing their pursuit of personal gain to cause the dangers of dairy product consumption to be hidden from their potential victims. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sue Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Ontario, Canada Time: 2000-10-01 07:03:28 Comments: I just want to say thank you for a wonderful site. I strongly believe that knowledge is power. By putting out this site and educating more people there is hope. They/we just have to open your eyes and see. Thanks, and I have sent out emails to everyone to check you out. I will be back. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Nan Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Plymouth, Ma Time: 2000-09-30 23:19:38 Comments: Mr Robert I really think that the National Dairy Association should paint that white lip on Marion Jones. This is the best way to promote the use of drugs, be it rBGH or steroids. Why not, she is in the company of another who could not perform in the Olympics, due to drug use. Ms Jones, she had to know of her husband's use. So she gets 5 medals, all not acceptable to me. Then she goes down in the record books for most medals. So let that National Dairy Association paint that lip, to insure the use of all drugs, be it steriods or rBGH. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Susan Rudd Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Ft.Myers.FL Time: 2000-09-30 15:04:16 Comments: Milk Doc (Robert Cohen) is a fabulous auther and researcher as well as a gift for this humanity! I LOVED the book.Milk the deadly poison, such a thriller designed to help combat mans inhumanity to man and animals! With a background in nursing and rehabilitation, I've often searched for dietary links to contamination from the environment to help patients with all types of physical challenges. I found the book in the library and wrote the author and he wrote me back telling me of the various websites. We can make a difference. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Martha Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: N.Y. Time: 2000-09-29 17:43:11 Comments: Fanatics must stick together, and what a crew is gathered here! Rock on whackos! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Paul Santos Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Toronto, Canada Time: 2000-09-28 10:53:37 Comments: I think your web site is great. I have been off all dairy products for almost 1year and i've never felt better. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: richard dorn Website: Referred by: AOL From: florida Time: 2000-09-27 02:14:04 Comments: Mr.Cohen, I am a 36 year old male who has always led the typical american diet of meat and dairy. I stumbled upon your site about a week ago and can honestly say that my life has been changed. I have always been interested in learning about vegetarianism but felt like many veggies were extreme conspiracy-theory zealots. I just wanted you to know that your professionalism in presenting your well-researched and documented facts is greatly appreciated. It has not only opened my eyes but i am now dedicated to becoming a vegan from this point on in my life. It is nice to know that people such as yourself are fighting for our country and others as well. Please keep up the fight. I'll do my part on this end. Thanks so much, Richard Dorn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Emily Dunne Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Central,CA Time: 2000-09-26 17:35:38 Comments: About 3 months ago my dr told me I have low blood pressure, and my sugar was off on a GTT. She advised me to eat more meats and dairy. I now have acne, which I've not had in years, I also noticed I'm starting to look older, among some other things...no one in my family believes me when I say that it's makeing me feel terrible, (my family came over from England 40 yrs ago) and every meal is meat & dairy. I'm so glad I found this site it's really opened my eyes.. it makes me feel like I'm not crazy after all. This stuff really does stink...Thank you for the information, Emily ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Akili Nyakobabatu Ajala Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: baltimore Time: 2000-09-26 15:43:06 Comments: this is a great site well, well needed. I am a vegan, I just started a all raw diet and love it so far. Every year I do a fast anywhere between 7~ 40 day, and when I do this I normally take something out of my diet. This year I took out cooked foods. Please please don't ever get rid of this site. I just hope you can find lots of raw food recipes. thank you ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rosalee Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Oregon Time: 2000-09-23 21:17:22 Comments: I guess my father's comment that 'cow milk is for calves not human beings' was correct... ..(He was a member of FFA and did judging of dairy cows when he was in high school. .. .I guess he understood better than most people what cow milk is for!! Too bad it took me so long to apply his knowledge! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rosalee Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Oregon Time: 2000-09-23 21:24:15 Comments: I just want to say that the switch from organic milk to organic soy has left me with so many changes that it is just unbelievable. It was hard at first because some of the soy products that I tried were not particularly palatable (I used soy instead of rice because I need the protein in soy. . rice has little in it)but I found 'WESTSOY 100% Organic' that I have come to ((((love)))) in tea, coffee, and my daily morning cafe latte with chocolate. . .a real treat! But more importantly I have noticed that I no longer have the terrible fluid retention that I had when I was using milk and many other things that I am convinced were caused by ingesting milk and products containing milk! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Crissy Johnson Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Time: 2000-09-23 10:29:00 Comments: I wanted to apologize to everyone who has read the horrible message that I sent. I read everything on Mr. Cohen web page and realized that he is against animal slaughtering and I too am against it and the only article I read made me feel like he was for animal slaying. I really do apologize. If anyone would like to e-mail me back may do so. I have personally apologized to Mr. Cohen himself. Thank You for you time, Crissy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Adrian Mathews Website: Christian Family Resources + FREE Book - Walking In New Life! Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Oregon Time: 2000-09-22 13:50:59 Comments: Thank You! for the data on the explosion of lymphatic cancer in the U.S. You have done a tremendous job. Do stop by and visit us and Sign our guestbook. I would like to exchange links with your site on my 2 sites that get quite a lot of traffic. Is drinking just weigh better? Please advise. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Hank Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: stamford, CT Time: 2000-09-22 00:02:06 Comments: Hey...... Mr. Cohen why does the government want to harm us? They create a type of paradox that inherently harms human beings, THEIR future offspring as well! Why do they keep secrets like the milk from the general public? Why can't they just stop harming human beings? Should we resort to anarchy? I'm trying to formulate a good thesis against milk for an essay. I can quote cool people like you =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jodi Favata Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Minnesota Time: 2000-09-20 16:32:28 Comments: This is a very interesting site! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Earl Dennis Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Idaho Time: 2000-09-20 15:39:39 Comments: Subject: Re: NOTMILK - - - LETTER FROM HEAVEN Add Addresses Dear Robert Cohen, I sent you an email simular to this last year. I am glad to see I am not the only crazy person to for go ritalin. My story is one of complete success. My son Aaron is now the top of his class. His mind is clear and his eyes are bright with the wonder of learning and living. He wants to be an engineer and build airplanes or space ships. With my success comes great saddness for the 3 million other children and the millions that went before doing the right thing and drinking their milk. Respectfully yours Earl of Idaho ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mandy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Texas Time: 2000-09-20 01:31:49 Comments: Robert, I was watching something the other day about the rampant use of performance enhancing drugs among Olympic athletes. The name of one in particular really caught my attention: insulin-like growth factor! It's one of the many that are not detectable by the testing methods that are currently being used. If you're not onto this yet, just thought I'd send some ammo your way. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: russ Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-09-20 01:17:16 Comments: to mr. cohen ,and mr. reitz , I tink you both need to get help. i never realisied that their were people in this world quite like you .Get a life , do somthing better with your time , go cry to somone else about your problems,or find a real problem to cry about, you make me sick, excuse me i have to go barf now. Dear Russell, You posted a comment at the NOTMILK guestbook on September 6th, asking a question about a milk hormone, insulin-like growth favtor-I. (Guestbook letter #1889). I see that you did not like the answer. Milk also contains casomorphin, a morphine-type substance associated with attention deficit disorder and autism (according to Robert Cade, MD, University of Florida). One out of five children in America take RITALIN for this condition. Your most recent letter makes it clear that you are not taking your medication, Russell. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Tom Hall Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-09-19 18:18:31 Comments: Mr. Cohen, I thought you might get a kick out of these jokers with a dairy cow cam. This is the link, check it out if you have the time http://www.lancasterfarming.com/cowcam.html Keep up the good work. Maybe one day All americans will pull their heads out. Tom Hall ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: DUDLEY LEWIS Website: New Possibilities Referred by: From a Friend From: California Time: 2000-09-17 01:03:05 Comments: Thank You! for the recent data on the explosion of lymphatic cancer in the U.S. and the corresponding rise in enlarged lymphatic tissue in test rats that occurred in the trials of the rBGH. This is a smoking gun if there ever was one. I have copied the data to give to my clients and will pass it out at the world solidarity conference in Cuba when I go with a medical group in November. Thanks Again Dudley Lewis Please see the correction to that article. Despite many levels of double-check the data was compromised by U.S. Government induced "clerical error". Please read Mr. Cohen's update on this issue at: http://www.notmilk.com/lymph.html For a letter of apology by the culprits... please read the scanned letter at: http://www.notmilk.com/graphics/dhhsadd2.gif Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Down Under Time: 2000-09-16 07:19:46 Comments: If you're going to talk scare tactics and brainwash, then look at the Dairy Industry. They feed people not only Cow Milk, but also Bull Sh!t. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: JEFFREY A. MATNEY Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: NORTON, OHIO Time: 2000-09-15 22:49:42 Comments: THIS IS VERY INFORMATIVE. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Clint McCoy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-09-15 13:03:29 Comments: BLIND FAITH? Blind faith in right wing groups like the "notmilk" champaign who uses poor science and scare tactics is not only questionable, its brainwash. REGUARDS-THE MILKMAN NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: I have been accused of being a right winger, left winger, communist, Nazi, and capitalist pig. I've been called a male chauvinist and women's libber. I've been ridiculed as a know-nothing who never went to college, and been called a disbarred attorney, malpracticed physician, real estate developer, and failed dairy farmer. While all of the above accusations are "perfectly true", why not focus upon the things I say and the science behind them. For centuries, critics have had to resort to attacking the messenger while ignoring the message. You are like many others who accuse me of using poor science, then fail to come up with just one example to substantiate your claim. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Lori Gurule Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Denver Time: 2000-09-14 22:30:19 Comments: I really am glad that someone is willing to expose the utter crap being handed to us by groups such as the FDA, Dairy Council, and the good old AMA, to mention only a few. Blind faith in these well known organizations is not only fool hardy, but down right dangerous. I really appreciated the 'Milk the Deadly Poisin' Book also. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Be|a Lugosi Website: belasdomain Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: NC, USA Time: 2000-09-14 12:40:33 Comments: I added a link to your page on my IRC channel site. I find your site amusing. The link is as follows: http://www.geocities.com/ncdalnet the link is under, links of course haha.. ciao ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Peter Phippen Website: Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement From: New London, New Hampshire Time: 2000-09-13 23:09:38 Comments: I am so grateful to receive the daily updates on the NOTMILK site, and the millenium message to the world regarding the census data and rBGH is literally earthshaking (that's the dairy industry, FDA and other Gov't slaves to Drug Companies rolling out the big artillery of BULLS__T). THe system does work, and we are all witnessing the unraveling of a very top -heavy and bloated relationship. Thank you US Census Bureau, and thank you Robert Cohen for persisting in your right fight. But I have one question, how can we get this news out to the general public? Robert, we need 60-Minutes and all the other news magazines to be fighting over who gets to air this journalistic bombshell of the century! There has got to be a way to get the story on major network news coverage. I am going to do my utmost to get the news out to my local papers and to contact these news organizations to get some stories flying in widely circulated arenas, where John Q. Public can get a gander at this stuff. When cancer talks people listen. The Census Bureau got it wrong. Despite many safeguards this massive error went unnoticed by all of them. Please read their Letter of apology Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: sheldog Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: communist canada Time: 2000-09-13 18:34:28 Comments: Eating dairy (like meat) should be a personal choice, and not one that is forced by scare tactics. Presenting the consumer with the WHOLE truth about cow's milk and dairy is NOT telling them what to do. It is, simply put, giving them the level playing field they SHOULD be afforded by their government AND industry. Would you call informing the public of polluted water a "scare tactic" or common sense? If informing the public about tainted water IS simple common sense... then why is informing the public of polluted milk more than common sense? Then, just like tobacco, another subsidized bad-news substance, the consumer can (and will) choose as they see fit. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carolyn Parker Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Time: 2000-09-13 13:59:57 Comments: I am so happy that this was sent to me. I no longer eat dairy and i feel so much better. I am pretty sure that dairy was the biggest cause for me being over weight. I just look at ice cream, cheese, etc..... And get sick. Thank You for this wonderful web site!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Clint McCoy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Palestine, IL Time: 2000-09-13 00:07:44 Comments: LIES, LIES, all LIES! Whats the relationship between IGF-1 and bovine somatotrophin? Dosen't IGF-1 get digested in the human GI tract instead of absorbed as active IGF-1??????? IGF-1 does get digested! Animal science majors, text books, and professors of veterinary medicine cannot all be wrong! NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Clint, Either animal science majors, text books, and professors are wrong, or nursing mothers and pediatricians are wrong. You cannot have it both ways. Does breastfeeding work? According to all that you learn in college, it cannot possibly work. In theory, lactoferrins and immunoglobulins must be destroyed in the nursing infant's tummy. There is of course, a flaw in your thinking and logic. Breastfeeding does work! Children who are breastfed have higher IQ'S and greater immunological protection. These facts are not in dispute, having been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. Milk was designed to allow its components to survive digestion. Milk buffers gastric pH so that strong acids are diluted. Milk proteins such as casein protect the hormones from gastric degradation. By homogenizing milk, mankind has improved upon nature's natural mechanism, and made milk an even more efficient and powerful hormonal delivery system. Tiny fat molecules resulting from homogenization (micronized liposomes) act as carriers for these protein hormones, and are small enough to bypass the gut intestinal wall where they are absorbed intact into the bloodstream. BOTTOM LINE, Clint. Does brestfeeding work? If your answer is that it does, you must recognize that drinking cows milk is merely another form of breastfeeding. Those growth hormones survive digestion in your tummy too. You and your professors need re-educating, and those textbooks will one day be re-written by somebody possessing greater wisdom than the present-day authors. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: R.Hamilton Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Canada Time: 2000-09-13 00:23:22 Comments: Dear Robert, As you prepared your manuscript for your book years ago and as we both worked to obtain copies of the Richard,Odaglia, Deslex Report from our respective governments, I remember you making a prediction about a dramatic increase in cancer forthcoming. The U.S. Census Bureau numbers now bear witness to your prediction. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ernest & Debbie Hummel Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Auburn, Pa. 17922 Time: 2000-09-11 16:33:19 Comments: THANK YOU FOR THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING DIET, I LONG THOUGH MEAT AND DAIRY WAS NOT THE BEST THING TO EAT. IT IS TRUE YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kristi Walker Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Winnipeg Time: 2000-09-11 12:21:46 Comments: I heard of this website from my cousin, and I haven't drank milk for over a year. My personal alternative is rice milk, and I don't miss cows' milk at all!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Lauren Moody Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Florida Time: 2000-09-11 11:59:19 Comments: I am so excited to learn that milk may be the cause of my asthma, By cutting out dairy foods I may be able to live my life without a dependence on prescription drugs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: sandy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: north carolina Time: 2000-09-11 09:00:59 Comments: I question your research. There must be some other factor working in concert with rbgh. The percentage increases from 1994 when rbgh was approved for use to 1995 was for one year after approval (the consumer had been exposed, ingesting for aproximately one year). If rgbh is is causing a plague how many cases of infant lymphomancic cancer have been reported? Babies and infants drink the most milk, and eat lots of dairy products. Suggest you utilize your time more wisely and jump on the nicotine or gun control band wagon. Hope any $'s you've made are going to research by ligitimate research facilities. Dear Sandy, In theory, NO SINGLE thing will ever be accepted by all people. Test something on six billion people? Perhaps that would satisfy you. Cigarette smoking causes lung cancer, but the real scientific support for that universally accepted conclusion has never been demonstrated. In this case, there is much more evidence and an existing mechanism for cancerous growth. IGF-I, a milk hormone, is the key. Three years ago, I helped 60 MINUTES do a story (Isadore Roesmarin was the producer) in which aspartame/NutraSweet was implicated as the cause of increased brain cancers. In that case, epidemiologist John Olney, MD had traced an increase of brain cancers (astrocytomas and glialblastomas) to the five year period after aspartame was approved. Olney found a three percent increase across the board (sex/age) in these brain cancers. I now reject animal research and do not cite it, with one exception. When I find research performed and fraud committed, I go for the jugular. During the aspartame experiments, FDA concluded that there were no biological effects on lab animals from aspartame ingestion. I and others found otherwise. The same exact brain cancers in rats (extremely rare) occurred in humans (also extremely rare) and FDA lied. I used this example to expose the system, and the fact that animal research is also a deception because pharmaceutical companies lie and deceive. Well...the same thing happened with the bovine growth hormones. One difference...instead of a three percent increase, we are seeing increases of over two thousand percent in some age groups. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN The source of data for the info on lymphatic cancers posted at http://www.notmilk.com/lymph.html is: NOTE (1): Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Statistical Abstract of the United States, 1999, U.S. National Center for Health Statistics, Vital Statistics of the United States; Table No. 144. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Cathryn Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: NY Time: 2000-09-10 16:34:45 Comments: Great site. Congratulations! This message needs to get out. good luck! cathryn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Deb Defibaugh Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-09-10 09:32:51 Comments: I indend to share this web site with others. My son has dairy allergies. He had always had extremely large tonsils & adnoids--so large they almost touched his uvula. Excessive throat clearing finally led me to try eliminating dairy. Surprise--his tonsils shrunk!!! I just wish I had documented it with a "before" and "after" picture. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Samantha Sharp Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Ohio Time: 2000-09-08 23:22:18 Comments: i'm doing a project on the PETA people and i would like some different stuff on them i would appreciate it very much if you could send me things on them and about your site thanks again Dear Samantha, PETA is PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals). PETA is a large organization with people all over the planet. They have thousands of helpers who also donate time, effort and money to the cause. http://www.peta.com/fp/other.html They have LOTS of other appropriate sites NOTMILK is NOTMILK (for the Ethical treatment of the NUMBER ONE ANIMAL, humans, who in turn, should ethically treat all other creatures). The Diary Education Board is a one man operation by someone who learned the WHOLE truth about cow's milk and dairy. NOTMILK operates on a shoestring, and Mr. Cohen pays for all the shoestrings. As WEB site designer and WEBmaster I *donate* my time and efforts to his cause. Why? Because I am convinced that the powerful growth hormone IGF-1 (which is IDENTICAL between cows and humans) that I obtained through a lifetime of typical dairy consumption... CAUSED my surprise case of prostate cancer to GROW so fast that it was declared "terminal" (already spread) by the young age of 55. Call IGF-1 a "Plug and Play" hormone! I am the FIRST among my hardy and long-lived Danish/German ancestors to acquire ANY form of cancer. I went looking for and FOUND the most likely reason(s) for its trigger. Visit http://www.dorway.com for over 500 WEB pages of good reasons WHY I am convinced that Equal in my coffee (aspartame) for fifteen years was the prime trigger for my cancer. Shortly after that I went looking for what made it GROW so fast. When I learned about milk and IGF-1 I found the most likely reason why my cancer flourished in a cancer-resistant lineage. I felt duty-bound to help create the over 340 WEB page site http://www.notmilk.com and the 100+ page http://www.notmilk.com/hs to help spread the WHOLE truth on this tasty but sickening cancer fuel. This is why I donate around 240 hours a month (for the past four years) to a very cost effective means to spread the WHOLE truth concerning aspartame, MSG and cow's milk and dairy... via Internet WEB sites. MSG is a kissing cousin "mind-blower" to aspartame that is in almost all processed foods. Aspartame was used in the placebos BEFORE it was even a legal sweetener. For more info on MSG (which has over 30 different "names") see http://www.truthinlabeling.org. PETA and the Dairy Education Board have no connection other then linking to each other for obvious reasons... to promote the ethical treatment of all creatures... especially humans, maintaining Internet websites with free information, and caring for all critters (especially humans), NOTMILK has no official affiliation with PETA... independently we share humanity. NOTMILK has no affiliations with www.hungerSITE.com, either, except that we also want folks to have a decent meal. Unfortunately, the ONE product with the greatest abundance (over-production for a continually glutted BUT taxpayer supported market)... consists of USDA purchased milk and cheese that they GIVE away to the poor. It is lamentable that through our national "charity" we promote obesity, sickness and premature death to the already downtrodden via the free distribution of milk products. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Denise Reichert Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Tallahassee, FL Time: 2000-09-08 16:22:47 Comments: Firstly, I started to learn the facts about aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal, diet sodas) and the serious symptoms my husband had because of his 6-8 diet cokes a day: headache, blurred vision, muscle spasms, joint pain, insomnia, anxiety, heart palpatations, severe tinnitus, dizziness and weight gain. He thought he had MS and a brain tumor. After being off diet sodas for 3 months, his main complaint is tinnitus. Then I started surfing the net and happened on www.dorway.com and started to learn about our milk and cheese supply. I am letting all of my family and friends know about the food supply and I will hand out flyers at the grocery stores. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kimberly Miles Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Frederick, MD Time: 2000-09-08 15:09:03 Comments: This is a tremendously helpful sight. Thank you so much, and thank you to my local organic/natural grocery store for helping me find you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mary Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: South Carolina Time: 2000-09-07 21:26:17 Comments: Hello,Mr.Cohen! The information you have shared concerning dairy products is very interesting.There is ,however,something I would like you to comment on.Could you please give your viewpoint on a couple of passages from the Bible? These are Deuteronomy 32:12-14 and Isaiah 7:14-15. Thank you very much! NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: I've addressed all biblical references to goat's milk in the following column: http://www.notmilk.com/deb/081698.html The land of MILK AND HONEY was a land in which breast milk would flow for a people whose first born child was slain in Pharaoh's Egypt. It would be a land of freedom and sweetness. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jessica Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: TN Time: 2000-09-07 17:14:50 Comments: I hope that this is some kind of joke, because milk is very good and important to the bodies growth. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Go back to bed, dear. It's all just a bad dream...a nightmare. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Tracie Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Time: 2000-09-07 17:29:36 Comments: For everyone hating on Robert Cohen please get a life. The least common thing in this world is common sense. I knew something was wrong with milk years ago becauese I got sick and it was not near the expiration date. I would occasionally drink it though and I constantly had mucus. It was so bad that it came out of my eyes. And my mother would always say, get out of your eyes. What she didn't realize was that I literally couldn't see, if I didn't get it out. I learned to listen to my body because it definitely talks. I used to have reproductive pains all the time and they would happen immediately after eating or drinking something with milk in it. Do your own research before getting mad with someone for doing their research. This world is corrupt and the love of money is what did it. God will deal with everyone who has mislead anyone from the truth. The devil is out and people don't even know it. He comes in all shapes and sizes. I can't stand those milk ads. I hated them before I found out about this site. Why would anyone drink another mammals milk? THINK ABOUT IT: WHY DON'T THEY TELL YOU THAT IT DOES A BODY GOOD ANYMORE? Common sense says that IT DOESN'T, THAT'S WHY! I learned the hard way because at the time, I believed anyone who I thought was smarter than me. I thought that they wouldn't say it was good for you if it wasn't. I learned the hard way. We need to look at the BIG PICTURE OF EVERYTHING! SO WHAT THE FDA SAYS MILK IS OK. Who's paying the FDA to say that. PROBABLY WHOEVER THEY'RE COVERING UP! We need to listen to our hearts more and not our minds AND DEFINITELY NOT OTHER PEOPLE'S MINDS. And if you don't know how to listen to your heart, ask GOD to open it up for you to see the BIG PICTURE OF EVERYTHING. That's why everything's a mess. We rely on everybody and everything for what we should be asking THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: R.Hamilton Website: 2 Out of 10,000 Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Canada Time: 2000-09-07 13:31:33 Comments: To Michelle; Mr. Cohen did not make up the QUIZ. I have to take full responsibility for it. Cancer researchers know that removal of IGF-1 from the site stops the cancer growth and often sends it into remission. As pointed out, IGF-1 is the key factor. Remove external sources of IGF-1 (dairy) and your isolated, single cancer cells stand a good chance of remaining so. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Ron, Actually, there are TWO milk quizzes. Yours: http://members.tripod.com/ronjh/quiz2.htm and Mine: http://www.notmilk.com/deb/090698.html Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: michelle Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-09-07 00:36:16 Comments: Your grasp of physiology leaves a lot to be desired. The question in the Milk Quiz, "What causes cancer cells to turn into a tumor" is ridiculously restrictive. Ever heard of RB? Tumor suppressor genes? Oncogenes? Proto-oncogenes? No one thing causes cancerous cells to propogate. This item alone causes the rest of your site to lose credibility. Sorry, just calling them as I see them. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Michelle, The MILK QUIZ is a parody, not a scientific argument. The following is no joke: Insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) has been called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of male prostate cancer (Chen, Science, vol. 279. January 23, 1998, p. 563), breast cancer (Hankinson, The Lancet, vol. 351. May 9, 1998, p. 1393), and lung cancer.(Yu, Journal of the National Cancer Institute, vol. 91, no. 2. January 20, 1999) Regards, THE NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Clint McCoy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: University of Illinois Time: 2000-09-06 21:32:14 Comments: Yes it's me, the hell raising dairy farmer from southern Illinois. I would like to respond to the very graphic and horrific story about the "Dairy from Hell". As a dairy farmer, I have observed only one of herdsmen-the kind who would do anything for their herd and its well being. The graphic tale about the Dairy from Hell on this message board, if this is all true, shocks me. I have never heard of or seen this kind of neglect and abuse of a herd of cattle. Now, I am pro-milk all the way. I am a dairy farmer for God's sake, what do you expect?? But I am NOT for animal abuse and neglect. As any respectful dairy farmer would tell you, this type of herdsman exists only in minorities. Yes, I know even if one exists that it is too much. But I assure the American public that this is not a clear reflection of how farms are operated. Productive dairy farms are productive for only one reason: the cattle on that farm are healthy, expertly fed, and the manure mgt. holds a top priority. I do not agree with a whole lot on this cite, but I do agree that action is needed in cases like this. As a dairy farmer, I can see this type of neglence is bad for the cattle, the environment, and for the dairy industry's public appeal (which this site loves to attack). However, this is not the way a functioning dairy farm is operated. P.S.-IGF is not digested intact from milk; BST injections do not harm humans! BST is a substance made by the cows body. It is species specific in that BST only has a somatotrophic effect in cattle resulting in increased feed efficiency and thus an increase in milk production; Also as a dairy farmer, I know for a fact that EVERY SINGLE TANK FROM EVERY SINLGE FARM THAT GOES INTO EVERY SINGLE TRUCK IS TESTED FOR ANTIBIOTICS!!!!! NO EXCEPTIONS, EVER! Antibiotic treated cows are tagged with some type of leg band ( a velcro band red in color) or marking stick or something to signify to the milkers that the cow is a "DUMPER COW" meaning that the milk from this cow is not to be kept in the bulk tank of non antibiotic treated milk. IT IS TO BE DUMPED. And if milk from a treated cow enters the bulk tank through milker error and the farmer dosent catch it, the processing plant will following results from all the on farm truck tests. If the test is positive, the whole truck is dumped before it enters the holding tanks prior to processing, the one farmer that contaminated the tank is fined and is forced to purchase the value of the milk in the truck that was contaminated and dumped. Result-antibiotic free milk (this is fool proof people, really I have milked about a million times and have never contaminated milk with antibiotics), a healthy jug on milk on the shelves, and a NOTMILK MAN who stands corrected. DRINK YOUR MILK ALL YOU LITTLE KIDDIES! IT'S GOOD FOR YOU!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Angie Website: Referred by: AOL From: Ill Time: 2000-09-06 14:53:54 Comments: I found your website and was very interested in some of the contents in it. At the beginning of this year my 2 year old son was almost diagnosed with autism. After doing an incredible amount of research I found an article linking milk with autism and I immediately took my son off of all milk products. The first day he was off milk he said "I love you mommy" for the first time. He also hugged and kissed his little brother for the first time. I have continued my research on no milk diets and to find out more about this issue. That is how I discovered your website. There is a lot more information about milk there that I did not know. Could you possible send me a list of products that have milk in them that we would usually not think that had milk in them? I would appreciate any help you could give me. Thank you for bringing this concern to the world. Congratulations on YOUR discovery! Imagine how much needless suffering and worry could have been avoided... IF the media, medical system and others who consider cow's milk to be "natures almost perfect food", supposedly "necessary for proper nutrition", crucial to "good bones", etc. actually told the WHOLE story. Mr. Cohen adds: "Robert Cade, MD (Univ. of Florida) identified a naturally occurring cow's milk hormone, casomorphin, as the cause of attention deficit disorder and autism. Congratulations! Now that you have learned the truth about milk, your child will not become the one-out-of five American kids on Ritalin." Creating and maintaining a list of products containing milk or parts of it... would be impossible. The majority of processed foods seem to have something from milk in it. Anything that has something "caseinate" or whey... has dairy in it. You can find it in "non-dairy" creamers, many brands of canned tuna, ... anyplace where the manufactures needed a "binder" (casein is best used as an excellent furniture glue). There are whole lines of "health food" products that use whey, casein binders, and even colostrum .... the cows FIRST (and most potent) milk. Just like the "flavor enhancer" called MSG (a mind blower) that has 30 different names (see http://www.truthinlabeling.org), and aspartame (the fake sweetener with 92 FDA acknowledged symptoms of poisoning... see http://www.dorway.com) ... components of milk can be found throughout the American food chain. The end result is that one must read ALL labels, especially the fine print. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: russ Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-09-06 14:01:17 Comments: well this is my question, is this true?BST which is present in consumed milk is not absorbed as such. It is digested like any other protein to single amino acids and oligopeptides by protease enzymes in the stomach and small intestines. Protein hormones such as BST have to be injected directly into the body to be biologically active (e.g. insulin injections taken by a diabetic). However, only HST is active in humans and BST has no biological effects even if injected directly into the body. Why wont you let anyone else see my question?at least before you cut it all up. thats ok i can ask the other people myself. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Russ, Bovine somatotropin (bST) and bovine growth hormone (bGH) are both different names/abbreviations for the same protein hormone. Protein hormones are usually destroyed or broken down by gastric activity in the stomach, or enzymatic activity in the human intestines (gut). When the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone (rbGH/rbST) is injected into dairy cows, it works upon their pituitaries to promote the secretion of increased amounts of growth hormones, i.e., bGH and insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I). While you are correct that bovine growth hormone and human growth hormone are different (both contain 191 amino acids, but the sequence differs by about 35%), IGF-I is identical in humans and cows. Milk was designed (whether you believe in God, mother nature, or evolution) so that the lactoferrins, immunoglobulins, and hormones so contained would survive digestive processes and nurture the nursing infant of each mammalian species. Milk first buffers gastric pH in the stomach. Meat from cows containing the same hormones would be broken down. Milk hormones are not degraded because of the buffering effect. A gastric pH of 1.8 (very acidic) is changed to a more basic 6.0 so that these proteins survive, intact. Homogenized milk micronizes (makes smaller) fat molecules so that they become carrier vehicles for these protein growth hormones. These micronized liposomes survive gut breakdown, and are small enough to get through the gut wall and be absorbed directly into the bloodstream. In October of 1999, the Journal of the American Dietetic Association published a study (Heaney, et. al) in which IGF-I levels in milk drinkers increased by a factor of ten percent! IGF-I has been identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of prostate cancer (somebody tell Rudy Guiliani), lung cancer (somebody alert the cigarette industry), and breast cancer (tell that to the 1 out of 7 women who will be diagnosed with breast cancer). Regards, The NOTMILKMAN WEBmaster comment: The above referenced ADA test showed a 10% IGF-1 increase in participants who consumed only TWELVE OUNCES MORE milk per day (three 8 oz. glasses), than the control group (1 and a half glasses per day). Most Americans consume MORE than this minimal quantity each day. That means MORE IGF-1. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Down Under Time: 2000-09-06 09:40:52 Comments: I'm vegan, and extremely anti-dairy.... I also live about 200 metres from a large Dairy Farm and have travelled around the local area to see a few Dairy farms; yet Shari's description seems to describe a Dairy farm that is VERY extreme, and I wonder how such a farm could ever keep operating. When I finally turned to veganism I had a few medical problems disappear, especially mucous build up in my sinus passages and stomach cramps (these had me doubled over in pain constantly, many times wanting to kill myself but not being able to do so because of the pain). These symptoms disappeared a week after going vegan and dropping dairy products. I have no doubt that Dairy products are totally unneccessary (although I'm more concerned about our anthropocentric exploitation of Animals). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: russ Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-09-06 08:29:45 Comments: So Shari , first of all how does your neighbor keep his milk permits? Dosn't the state and federal inspectors ever shut him down ?and how could anyone stay in business if they treat their animals that bad? I find your statemend kind of hard to bealive. I milk a few cows myself and i can tell you from first hand experience that the cows are your first priority, you have to take the best care of the cows they are what makes your money. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jeanne Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Time: 2000-09-06 05:25:38 Comments: Can antibiotics be destroyed by pasteurization or sterilization? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Jeanne, Sterilization works. One detonated thermonuclear device will generate 10 million degrees Fahrenheit. Should you be holding a glass of milk at that moment, you will ingest no antibiotics. Consumers Union and the Wall Street Journal recently tested milk in the New York metropolitan area for the presence of antibiotic residues. They independently found 52 different antibiotic residues in milk samples. Imagine that? Dairy farmers will tell you that they are lying, and that every truckload of milk is tested. Who would you believe? Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Shari Website: Referred by: AOL From: Cheney, WA Time: 2000-09-06 02:21:37 Comments: I have been living near a dairy, whose horrific processing practices have caused the surrounding neighbors to band together and fight this guy. At first glance, the dairy is dirty, unkept, and very smelly. Before anyone goes off on a tangent, I raise livestock and eat my own meat because of meat processing practices. I am very used to manure and other farm smells (I have a billy goat, and he stinks to high heaven at times) This odor is pure methane and decay. The odor emits from a holding pond which is a purple color, and the plot (300' x 300') which holds approximately 80 - 100 cows. The cows are forced to live, eat, and sleep in their own feces. I have lived here four years and have yet to see a stall cleaned. Needless to say, the cows teats are caked in manure. The people the dairy employs are either drunk or high the majority of the time. One is under investigation for meth lab/stolen property. At one point, my neighbor, the milker, got so drunk he left the cows hooked to the machines and went home and passed out. This man and others can't keep themselves clean, so you know the teats are not washed prior to milking. The owner of the dairy is no better. As we all know, it is necessary to freshen a cow yearly. If done properly, the cow can provide milk for 20 years. However, I've yet to see a calf on the property. The owner actually ripped a calf from the womb because the purchaser of the dairy calves wanted two. Again, I have never seen a calf, male or female, on the property. On with the tale: this spring and summer, several cows slipped on concrete covered in manure and split their pelvis'. One cow was drug out to the side of a county road and left without food and water for five days. Her milk bag filled to an ungodly size. She never moved. The neighbors and other travelers along our road stopped to inquire and complain. It wasn't until Spokane County Animal Control was called and they contacted the dairy by phone three days later. The cow disappeared. Not three weeks later and another cow in the same condition was left again, but had some hay and water. Again, this poor creature was left at the roadside (now remember Kids are riding the school bus and going by this dairy and assuming this is what a dairy should be) At the same time this live cow is suffering next to the road, a dead cow, bloated all four legs sticking straight up is left by the road also. So now the flies have started, thick as thieves. So we (the neighbors and I) start calling. We went through Washington State Department of Ecology, Water Protection, the USDA, and the health department. No one wants to touch this guy. He lives right on the edge of the law and he is such a jerk he frightens the neighbors. So the neighbor is out walking her dogs and what does she come across but a literal bone yard, but not just bones but whole cows lying there rotting. She comes home in a tizzy, and off we go with the camera crossing the field to take pictures. (Charlie's Angels - Watch out) The cow that laid by the road had been drug ALIVE to die in this back field, while I am no forensic scientist, the cow was lying on her belly, hollowed out by maggots. (the coyotes and cougars, which we have in abundance, imagine that, had not tore this creature to bits) Next to her is another cow, with the hide still on, hollowed out. These cows were laying among other carcasses. So off we go to the Spokane County Health Department and we get a hold of Mr. Joe Pallelo. Now Mr. Pallelo is a piece of work, he calls and tells the dairy owner that he needs to deal with the dead cows (that was over four weeks ago) He calls the dairy everytime we call him and says, "Shucky darn, but the guy won't let me on the property and he says their not his" Well, we did get his dander up when we called the vet. So far, the cows still lay there and rot. Now, the cows in the field across from the dairy are starting to die (these are meat cattle on a huge pasture) And we watched them haul another dead cow into the field today. I noticed a man's response to your efforts and how apalled he is at the whole idea and cows are mindless creatures living in 5-star conditions. Sir, I beg to differ. These cattle know their miserable, that is why the eat their own crud and females try to have sex with each other. These animals are fed, but they are sick and tired (literally). I have goats, and when one goat had her babies taken (they died in the womb) she sulked and wandered looking for these babies. When I take one goat to the vet, the others know she's gone and pitch a fit, running up and down the fence line. One beef I had, Sarah, knew the moment she saw me she was going to get a brushing (with a horse comb) and ran from the back of the pasture, leaning all 900 lbs on me while I combed her. I still did not have a problem cooking a roast that winter. The methods by which this dairy and many others is inhumane and I beg society to contemplate our reasonings of mistreating animals and the disposability of livestock. Worse yet, these unkept barns are a host of trouble waiting to happen. If one thinks Anthrax is just a band, remember this type of treatment will eventually leak into the surrounding community and children. This man cannot sell his milk locally. He must haul it to Moses Lake, to the Safeway processor there (160 miles away). (I contacted Safeway, with no response) I know hormones, antibiotics, and pus come out of those poor cow udders. Believe me when I say, I enjoy milk and milk products, but I really don't want to be forced to milk a cow twice a day because we can not govern and/or regulate dairy practices. Any suggestions on who can stop this 'beast' from harming any other defenseless animals. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Shari, As a result of your letter, I have been in close contact with the Washington State department of Agriculture. The head of the dairy division is a veterinarian, Candace Jacobs. As a result of my investigation, I have identified the dairy farm. Dr. Jacobs is taking this complaint very seriously, and will send inspectors to that farm. I also spoke to your health department. I was told that what happens on that farm is not in his jurisdiction. I informed him that in my opinion, it was. Rotting bodies of downer cows may very well contain PRIONS, the particles that cause the human equivalent of Mad Cow Disease. Dr. Jacobs agrees that the health department should be involved. I will keep you and all readers of my newsletter up to date. To subscribe to the notmilk letter, send a blank EMAIL to: notmilk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Regards, The NOTMILKMAN UPDATE Situation has been handled. Here is Mr. Cohen's update: Early this week, a disturbing letter was posted to the NOTMILK Guest Book. The author, Shari from Spokane, Washington, described the most horrible of conditions on a local dairy farm. As a result of that letter, Robert Cohen spoke with the Spokane Health Department and the State Department of Agriculture. Cohen learned that the farm in question had a very poor history of mistreating animals and of complaints. Candace Jacobs of the State Department of Agriculture took an immediate "hands-on" approach and sent inspectors to the farm. She reported that the conditions described in that letter no longer exist. The last cow death on that farm occurred in early July. Inspectors found the dairy cows to be free of disease and the stalls to be clean. The farmer in question is milking 400 cows and has made substantial improvements to his operation insuring the comfort and safety of his animals. Robert Cohen NOTMILK.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Denae Cindy Sherri Website: Milk is good for you! Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Hazleton, Pennsylvania Time: 2000-09-05 21:44:45 Comments: You need to get a life bud. Milk is the best beverage in the universe. what nutrients can you get out of "soy milk". How can you put down the hardest working people in the nation, the dairy farmer? If you would have drank milk while you were growing up you would have amounted to much more than the "NOTMILK MAN FREAK." Have fun dying at a young age from the crippling affect of osteoporosis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Brent Biernbaum Website: I cant believe god created people so stupid that they could possible think that milk is cause of their troubles Referred by: AngelFire From: Palestine IL (We have cows so it might be Hell to you guys) Time: 2000-09-04 22:48:33 Comments: I'm a normal person (I consume dairy products without fearin some magical diesease might manifest in my body and bring me to my death) and i have found your site offense to the intelligence of sane people. Anyone with the slightest hint of common sense can see that milk isnt the devil. If you would like a cause you should invest your time on the education of the dangers of smoking, not trying to tell the elderly that they can't have their cottage cheese at lunch because it might send them to an early grave. Its worthless cause like this that make me say that you people are all a bunch of ignorant low life time wasting fools. And its crap like this, and people like you that my hard-earned tax dollars go to. So next time your in the grocery store buying a milk subsitute and using your food stamps because your to lazy to get a real job, think about me because it's me and people like me that are supporting you and your brain washed families. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: hi Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-09-04 10:06:10 Comments: Well how can I start. First off, I drink milk or some kind of milk product on a daily basis. You say that it can lead to heart disease. And over 50% of americans are overweight right? You must have forgotten that a majority of those people don't exercise AT ALL! I DO exercise daily. I try to maintain a balanced diet. THats how you have a healthy heart. I wouldn't be suprised if these peta morons never heard of exercise before. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Nameless, During the Korean war, 18-20 year old American soldiers who died in battle (in supposedly perfect physical condition) were autopsied and found to have athersclerosis--butter-like placques in their arteries. It is now accepted by every scientific agency that animal fats and cholesterol do not make for a healthy heart. I imagine that hearts from plant-eating PETAites are a lot pinker and healthier than the cholesterol-clogged hearts of cheese and meat eaters. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ryan A Fraley Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Chester, IL Time: 2000-09-03 02:06:04 Comments: I would have to say two things in my message. One is thank you for having the guts to stand against Monsanto. The second thing is that I am not really thanking you at all, because you all could use a more moderate approach and better HTML (sic) and get your point across much better! Don't shoot the messenger, or for that matter the dairy farms that could convert to producing soy milk and soy protein (which I dig, BTW) because these people are merely misinformed. If anyone is being manipulative here it is the FDA, Monsanto, and the National Dairy Council. I hate to see it when you lower themselves just a little toward their low level. Heck, Jack Lalanne has turned even more people away from milk by being an 85-year old Hercules who is also a lacto-veg. The best solution for your problem is to quit acting like you consume the very product you hate, since you have taught us that milk can cause bad behavior too! See, I know milk can alter behavior too, I am not expecting you to act like Jesus, I am just hoping you would take my suggestions in to consideration and not come up with some snide remark in response. Thank you for your time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Nan Taska Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Somewhere Time: 2000-09-02 23:55:03 Comments: This is to Clint McCoy, the owner of the 300 Holstein cows. Just wondering, do you use Posilac (Rbgh) on your cows? You are right cows around since the 1620 time, I take that back it was 2 more years, then the Pilgrims got their first cows, but at that time, it took alot of milk to produce that butter that they needed Very little of it, they got. No fat Pilgrims hanging around, but in this age I see alot of them today, you guessed it, I live in Pilgrim Country. After reading Mr Cohen's web site, it all made sense, we drink the body fluids of a animal, not intended for us after the jump start. the Mother Cow weans the calf off her milk, as do humans. Milk is only for a jump start of the baby, after that then we go to other things. Did you ever wonder why so much cancer, and where is it coming from. The air and water and all else, then add the IGF-1 in the milk, that is a growth factor, it SAYS GROW, as all of us carry some sort of cancer. As you can see I am what you call one of them, but it sure makes sense to me. I consumed the product, loved the milk and ice cream, now a tainted product to tell the small cancers to grow in me. Thankyou Monsanto for the Rbgh. I also tell them that every month. Open your mind, read what is said about the MILK, this is a fast track world, all new things are learned. Maybe time for a change in what we consume. These people that speak to us of the MILK do this to inform the consumer. Last thing, got a answer from a friend on the Milk issue, he said "Like apple pie been around for years, so has milk". Nothing more I can say, just read what Mr Cohen has to say, and I know you have a big investment in your cows, but read. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rich Platz Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Eugene Oregon Time: 2000-09-02 11:27:57 Comments: Well, its the same old story as I see it. the Black Wizzards of the Oil Industry are in cahoots with the White Coat Wizzards of the Milk and Medical Indusry! Basically they maintain: Don't let anything get in the way of our profit margin, at any cost! "Stop these truth statements coming out, or we'll go out of business", is what their stand is - In my opinion! Rich Platz, jazzdrummer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carolyn Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Michigan Time: 2000-09-02 09:08:49 Comments: Great to find good infomation and such interesting comments. You can certainly tell who is making lots of money from dairy products! Look around and you can also easily see who is suffering because they believed the marketing hype put out by these people. Americans have been sold a sad "bill of goods" about dairy foods, and now those sad people defend it as though it came straight from God! Sorry folks but you have been fooled again by people who laugh all the way to the bank!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Clint McCoy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-09-02 01:12:39 Comments: Brace yourselves all you "non-milk drinking cause it hurts God's little moo-moo's". Are you ready for this?? I am a 21 year old dairy farmer and owner of 300 Holstein cattle. I can all hear you calling me "The Devil". Really, people, lets be honest. Don't you think that this "MILK IS POISION" band wagon you are all on is a massive waste of time and money? Who are you trying to kid anyway? The dairy industry has been around for a lot longer than a bunch of flag burning hippies like yourselves. You are not going to change America's taste buds or their minds. The fact of the matter is that people like to consume dairy products. They are not going to cahnge their minds. EVER! And you people always say "If we can get just one perosn to quit dairy, then we have made a difference." BUT IT DOSENT MAKE A DIFFERENCE! NOT ONE BIT!!! Milk opponents always place animal cruelty and mistreatment and the top of their lists of reasons for being anti-dairy. Well, let me ask you something. As you are walking across the many dairy herd free stall barns I am sure you visit daily, have you ever heard a cow say "I hate living in this barn where I get high quality feed, plenty of water, a roof over my head, and my manure cleaned up after me. I wish I was out living like a cow was intended to live-wild and in the forest"? And for all your troubles-your picketts, your billboards, and your web pages-have you ever heard one of those cows say "Thank You"? NO! Picking up my sarcasm? I'm laying it on pretty thick. The bottom line is this: you all are sailing on the ship USS Lost Cause and your captain is steering you to a place called "Fantasy Island". The dairy industry is the most profitable food animal industry for food animal producers. They are not going to stop milking their cows because you people tell them to. And America is not going to stop consuming dairy products due to propaganda. Your cause is nothing more than a greasy spot on the highway of the American dairy industry. AND THAT, my lactose ignorant friends, IS TRUE. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Cowboy, You wrote: "...have you ever heard a cow say 'I hate living in this barn where I get high quality feed, plenty of water, a roof over my head, and my manure cleaned up after me." Substitute the word "negro" for cow, and you sound like the owner of an 1860 Alabama cotton plantation. You also wrote: "Your cause is nothing more than a greasy spot on the highway of the American dairy industry." May I use that quote? The 170 billion pounds of milk your industry produces in the year 2000, will contain 10.5 trillion milligrams of greasy cholesterol. That's one slippery highway, and a roadway to heart disease. Divide that by 270 million Americans, and we find the average American, thanks to dairy products, consuming 38,875 mg of cholesterol this year. The daily intake of cholesterol is 106 mg. There are 2 mg of cholesterol in a small piece of Armour bacon. Thanks to your product, the average American consumes from milk and dairy products the same cholesterol in 53 slices of bacon, every day of his or her life. By age 52, that equals the same cholesterol in one million slices of bacon. Care to HAZARD a guess as to what is America's number one killer? Thanks for your letter. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN -------------------------------------- Ummm... a "dairy farmer" sending Email from "First Robinson Savings Bank" in Robinson, IL. Tending to rows of green stuff instead of milking the cows? Hey... if you ARE a dairy farmer you MUST know that within the past three years you had RECORD high prices ($17 and change per hundred weight) and that at the end of last year prices had fallen BELOW PARITY ($9.73) ... for the first time ever. Considering that prices are still very low, around eleven bucks per 100 pounds, it would seem that oversupply (thanks to genetic engineering and factory farms) and less demand as a result of the NOTMILK campaign... constitute a whole lot more than a "grease spot". :-) We are making NO difference? The whole truth IS getting out... and those silly moustaches will turn to sad faces for all connected with the dairy industry. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Janet St. Pierre Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Rochester, New York Time: 2000-09-01 14:00:30 Comments: I heard Mr. Cohen speak in Pittsford, NY on August 26, 2000. I told a co-worker about his talk. He has been struggling with diabetes and hasn't felt well for some time. I asked him if he would cut out dairy products for a few weeks. He loved his milk, so I didn't think he would do it. Well, today (4 days later) he showed me numbers on his calendar, and I didn't know what they were. He said they were his daily readings. Well, the number has been decreasing dramatically, and he said he owed it all to me!! Wow, did I feel good that I could help someone. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Robert Edmands Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Boulder, CO Time: 2000-09-01 06:40:11 Comments: Humans have lived in close association with cows for some 9,000 years. They are not apt to give it up next week!! The reason certain ethnic groups- Africans, some Asians, Native Australians, have such high levels of lactose intolerance is that they never domesticated this animal or did so only recently. This does not make the cow Satan's cousin! Domestic animals made our civilization what it is today- Small pox, tuberculosis, The flu- are all diseases generated by association with domestic animals. The plus side is we would probably still be living in groups of 20 people using only stone tools without them. You learn to take the good with the bad. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rick Servatius Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: North Carolina Time: 2000-09-01 00:06:08 Comments: Come on, how can such a successful organization like the American Dairy Association be telling us untruths? It is a huge industry that certainly knows what's good for us, the American public. We drink lot's of milk, it's good for you, it's white, just like our bones. When I was in Junior High School, girls were not very developed: Now thanks to milk, and meat, my boys in JHS are far happier!! No, I'm just being facetious. Today, some scientists are reporting that maybe CO2 isn't the major cause of ozone depletion and/or global warming: It might be Methane!!! One of the deleterious effects brought on by dairy cows. Maybe the ADA will take a few well-deserved hits here, eh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Marcia Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Pennsylvania Time: 2000-08-30 17:25:31 Comments: I missed the "Crossfire" segment referred to... is there a transcript available ? Thank you. p.s. keep up the good work ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Barry Smith Website: Barry's Homepage Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Netherlands Time: 2000-08-30 10:40:55 Comments: Hi, Great site but how about a list of all products which are milk based. I quit dairy products a couple of years ago - or so I thought until I found out sodium casinate was a milk product. I love to know if there's anything else I am (was) still eating which is milk based. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Paul Pursehouse Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: San Diego Time: 2000-08-29 21:11:50 Comments: I watched crossfire and was favorably Impressed by your speaker.. We must give credit where credit is due. PETA, for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is not a part of Mr. Cohen's endeavors. By virtue of the fact that humans are animals, and we support the Ethical Treatment of humans... we just happen to agree with PETA on many points. However, PETA, http://www.peta-online.org and their affiliate site, http://www.milksucks.com are the folks who did the Guiliani advertisement, the beer is safer than milk ad, and I suspect they will be doing more to help ALL animals (humans included). So visit PETA and give them your support. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Lauren Hockenberry Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Pennsylvania Time: 2000-08-29 20:01:13 Comments: I am a vegetarian and agree with everything Ingrid Newkirk said. There is no reason for people to eat meat. I am only 14 years old so there isn't much I can do myself to spread the word that it isn't necessary to eat meat. I talk to my friends about vegetarianism and try to change their minds about eating meat. I was a milk drinker until I saw a discussion on Crossfire. That is where I got this website. I may not be saving every cow or pig but I feel that I am definately cutting down on the killing of the animal population. Even a rat deserves to live. God made his creatures so that they would have long, healthy, happy lives. Please e-mail me if you agree with me. Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: R.Hamilton Website: 2 Out of 10,000 Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Canada Time: 2000-08-29 18:39:16 Comments: Remember way back when CARNATION MILK used to advertise "Milk from contented cows?" How many years has it been since they had to admit that the slogan wasn't true and had to quit using it? Must be 20 years at least. Here's hoping Mayor Rudy recovers and learns what made his prostate cancerous. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rich Enciso Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Leona Valley, CA Time: 2000-08-29 14:28:22 Comments: I'm tired of people thinking that Bovine Slime is the perfect food. Thanks for the great info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Pastor Bob East Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Rogersville,TN Time: 2000-08-28 20:28:44 Comments: It is good to see that some are willing to stand up to big, big business. I taught school for a good many years and the Dairy Association furnished us with all of the "free" stuff we could use in classroom activities. We thought how generous of them! How sad that those of us as teachers took so little time to evaluate the "free" generosity. I was a great user of diary products and I fell victim to a degenerative disease by the name of MS (Multiple Sclerosis).I would not blame anyone thing for what happened in my experience but I feel certain that many, if not all, of the major illnesses of today are enhanced by the use of large amounts of animal products. By getting my head on straight and of course God's Grace I was able to turn things around and for the past nearly forty years have been sharing with others that there is a better way. Milk is great food!!!!....For baby calves!!!!! Keep up the good work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Josh Website: Drink Milk, It's good for you! Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Milk Town Time: 2000-08-28 16:29:53 Comments: You people make me laugh! I was reading your site while drinking a big cup of cow's milk. After reading your site, I just want to drink more milk, cheese, and other stuff your are complaining about. People have been eating these kinds of food for decades. Why do you have any right to tell me what I can/can't eat/drink??? Hi there... oh Email-less and unaccountable one from Virginia. We are NOT trying to tell YOU what to eat. We simply inform consumers of what is IN what they are eating... and what it can do to them. You can do whatever you please with yourself... just as long as it does NOT impact negatively on OTHERS. However, trying to mislead others DOES cause harm. That makes you an unwelcome "guest". As for your "Drink Milk, It's good for you!" comment. Milk and dairy are good for the Fluid Milk Processors, Monsanto, USDA, FDA, doctors, hospitals, drug companies, morticians... and for thinning out the ranks of Social Security recipients... and many who never make it that far thanks to heart disease, cancer, etc. There is NO requirement or reasonable necessity for cow's milk or dairy in the human diet. Period. Don't bother posting again... unless you have the courage to post your true working Email address. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Louis Liptak Engelhart Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Waterloo IA Time: 2000-08-27 17:33:16 Comments: You need to add the Mike Segel show to your list of "How did you find us?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Paddy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: NY Time: 2000-08-27 14:37:01 Comments: Try to understand that milk is not bad for you! you say that milk contains bacteria and other chemicals. well let me remind you that EVERYTHING on this planet of ours contains it! if it wasnt for these chemicals then we would not exist at all. bacteria isnt all bad either. there are many forms of it in our bodies for example that keep us alive. also im curious to see why you seem to think that meathane from cows causes global warming because the number of cows on this planet is very small compared to the number of cars on the road or the many factories that emit much worse chemicals at a larger volume. also what does the FDA have to gain from hiding information about milk. why would they really risk millions of peoples lives by keeping their mouths shut. i would also like to kno how milk actually causes osteoperosis instaed of preventing it. thanks and please in the future ask people before you use their photos in your ads. Sigh. You either didn't read and/or understand very much of the 340 pages of information notmilk.com. Common sense should make you admit that if ALL, of the over 43,000 mammals on this planet (including humans) WEAN their young from ALL milk, when appropriate... and that consuming ANY milk after being weaned is NOT appropriate. Especially the milk of an alien species! Cow blood is alien to yours, her digestive system is alien to yours... etc. So... common sense should prevail that her MILK is alien to YOUR systems requirements (as it is to every human system). What DO you consider GOOD for you? * The 59 hormones? * The herbicides, pesticides, PCB's, dioxins (see http://www.junkscience.com for more)? * The protein, 80% of which is casein, a powerful HISTAMINE (mucus maker) best used as a furniture glue? * The calcium, which, without an EQUAL amount of magnesium (as exists in the plants from which the COW gets HER calcium) cannot be absorbed? * The scores of allergens? * The feces... from whence come most of the millions of live bacteria per liter? Of the 59 hormones... which is your favorite? Estrogen, Progesterone, Testosterone, or perhaps it is the IGF-1... best thought of as a cancer "fuel cell"... identical between cows and humans... it is a "plug and play" hormone! What is your favorite antibiotic? New York milk tested for traces of 52 different kinds. Or perhaps it is all the EXTRA tasty goodies one might get from the THREE 8 oz. glasses of milk they recommend per day: up to 14.2 million live bacteria and up to 531 MILLION somatic (laymen call these "PUS") cells. Or perhaps your arteries have not clogged fast enough... and you NEED the cholesterol equivalent of 53 slices of bacon per suggested daily intake... three glasses... which WILL get the job done faster. Or... maybe you are not overweight to the point of being considered obese. Cheer up... 54% of Americans are already THERE... and with 50% of calories (whole milk) coming from all those tasty toxin-loaded fats (34% for "2% milkfat" milk) you, too, can join the majority. Do yourself a huge favor, Paddy, and read with an open mind, check out our resources and references... and then dump the crap (literally). Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Stanley Partyka Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Sumter,SC 29150 Time: 2000-08-26 23:15:55 Comments: Can you inform me about using whey protein? Is it unhealthy being produced from milk? Thank you. Proteins in WHEY (lactalbumin, bovine serum albumin) have been identified as triggers for insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus (TYPE I) and adult onset diabetes (TYPE II). Enuf said? Regards, The NOTMILKMAN Cow/s milk and dairy are unfit for human consumption. Period! There are NO valid health or human welfare reasons to consume cow's milk or dairy. That includes "pieces and parts" of it that exist in thousands of products... even "dairy free" stuff. Over 43,000 mammals wean their young from mother's milk WHEN appropriate, including humans. Humans are the only ones that partake of milk AFTER that time... and THE wonder of wonders is that it is milk from an alien species. Astounding as it may seem, the powerful GROWTH hormone called "insulin-like growth factor ONE" (IGF-1) is IDENTICAL between cows and humans... and it DOES make things grow. My prostate cancer, which had already spread by the young age of 55 (thanks to many years of over-indulgence in milk and dairy)... now grows over FOUR TIMES MORE SLOWLY now that I am over two years with NO diary in my diet. Yes... I DO miss the tasty aspects of milk, ice cream, cheeses, etc.... but logic tells me this learned trait is NOT A TASTE TO DIE FOR! Then, of course, there are the OTHER 58 hormones, allergens, toxins, blood, pus, feces, fats, cholesterol, viruses... and, basically, concentrated anything the cow ate! Quick turnoff: The FDA allows 20 MILLION live bacteria and 750 MILLION somatic (laymen call them "PUS") cells per LITER, before it is kept off the market. Cholesterol? The "recommended" three glasses a day provide the cholesterol equivalent of 53 slices of bacon. Got Heart Disease? Whole milk is 87% water... and that 3.25% "milkfat" is actually around 50% of the calories in milk from toxin-loaded FATS. Got Obesity? Doing ones self a favor by buying "2%"? Not really... one still gets 34% of calories from fats. GOT MILK? Then one IS helping "thin the herd" while boosting the profits of manufacturers who USE milk/milk byproducts, medical systems who treat the diseases, drug companies that offer powerful and expensive drugs... and, best of all, milk consumers are helping to keep the Social Security system solvent by dying off sooner than expected. (I suspect that my surprise cancer, making me the FIRST among my long-lived Danish/German ancestors to acquire any form of cancer, has nicked MY lifespan by from 15 to 30 years or MORE. That saves the SS system a BUNDLE!) I donate around 240 hours a month to informing folks about aspartame (dorway.com), MSG (truthinlabeling.org), MILK/Dairy (notmilk.com), FDA, Monsanto and the unnecessary Frankenstein shot (hungerstrike.com) now given to over half of America's dairy cows to produce MORE milk for a GLUTTED market... so that others have a better chance of NOT ending up like me, or worse, dead. Cancer has trashed half of my married life and shortened it by a considerable number of years. I deserved better from my government... and so do you! Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: jack semon Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: mich Time: 2000-08-26 08:38:03 Comments: just seen your add on tv. what a wierd group you are. animal protection, if you dogooders would get away from the tv set and get out into the real world and see wildlife as it really is you would think different, you can stick to eating your veggies, grass, weeds or whatever turns you on, ill eat my meat, also wild meat, also i will use my fur from trapping, jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Maralyn Nash Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Britain Time: 2000-08-26 06:50:03 Comments: 25 aug 2000. In May as a way of losing weight I decided to cut out all products connected with the cow. Not only have I lost 21 lbs but two very interesting events occurred. Prior to my diet I had been diagnosed with a large (8cm) Fibroid. It had to be checked to see if it was still growing. To my surprise within 10 week on this diet it had reduced. Co-incidence? Who knows. Also, pre-period breast pain has not just reduced but disappeared. I'll stick to no dairy from now on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: R. Hamilton Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Canada Time: 2000-08-25 23:48:00 Comments: To Steve on class actions: Mayor Rudy is likely ready to give it some thought about now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: steve markowitz Website: Jazz Piano Improvisations Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Seattle Time: 2000-08-25 16:22:04 Comments: Great work!! I noticed some of your billboard campaigns. I'm glad someone is finally speaking the truth. The Wisconsin Milkboard spokeswoman said that PETA was “misleading the public for their own gain”. Huh!!! What does PETA have to gain! They're not a billion dollar industry like the dairy industry, which has EVERYTHING to gain from the continued ignorance of the masses. Sadly, they have all the money they could possibly need to perpetuate their myths... and the support of our media and government to boot! We're up against a venerable foe! But somehow I think our truth is coming to light... and there will be a lot of angry women out there who find out too late that they could have avoided bone loss by NOT drinking milk!! Anybody interested in a class action lawsuit?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Michelle Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Rhode Island Time: 2000-08-25 15:26:06 Comments: This is an excellent site. Keep up the great work! I can't believe that anyone drinks milk - it's so terrible in so many ways. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Joe Covington Website: Referred by: Net Search From: IL Time: 2000-08-24 09:46:43 Comments: Looks like I will be coming back when I have enough time to go through it all. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Pierre Robitaille Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Sherbrooke, Qc, Canada Time: 2000-08-23 13:06:27 Comments: Hi, I have diabetes and you can be sure I will try to eliminate dairy products if it can help me! Before visiting this page, I have never heard that milk could be harmfull in any way, but you have really convinced me! I will give you some feedback if my health is begining to improve in the next months. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Cindy Website: Referred by: AOL From: Washington Time: 2000-08-18 14:29:12 Comments: Great website! I recently started Marilu Henner's Total Health Makeover and was shocked to learn about dairy products. I've since given up all dairy, all meat except fish, sugar and caffiene and am drastically cutting out chemicals by not eating processed or pre-packaged foods. This site has reinforced my new commitment to a healthy diet. I'll definitely recommend this site to my friends. Thanks, Cindy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Bev Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Orlando FL Time: 2000-08-16 02:30:08 Comments: I was interested in this site because my 2-year old grandson was diagnosed with mild autism a few months ago. At the age of 2 1/2 he had no language, little eye contact, withdrawn, severe temper tantrums, sleep disturbances, and hand-flapping. My daughter and I did our research and stumbled upon the theory that dairy can play a huge role in this developmental problem. He has been on a dairy-free diet for 3 months. The changes in his personality and behavior are amazing. He has developed great eye contact, plays with other kids, interacts with the family, sleeps through the night, tantrums are reduced to a few normal 2-year old fits. And, best of all, with the help of a wonderful speech therapist, he is learning language and is beginning to communicate with us. He is such a happy, funny little guy. We are grateful that we learned of the detrimental affects dairy can have. Being dairy free has given my beautiful grandson a chance for a normal life. I hope my story will encourge others dealing with similar problems to take the leap to dairy freedom. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: cheri Website: Referred by: AOL From: ca Time: 2000-08-16 01:25:24 Comments: I always knew John Robbins was a genius. This website helps to prove my theory. Milk does not always do a body good!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Gerry Bush Website: Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook From: Mesa, AZ Time: 2000-08-16 00:31:17 Comments: Every time I drink milk from cows that have been treated with the growth hormone, I get a terrible reaction. Within 15 minutes of ingestion, I begin to shiver with horrible chills. There is NO WAY that I can get warm (and I live in AZ)! Next I get very sleepy and sleep for 3-4 hours. When I awake I feel as though I have been drugged and am in a semi-stupor for the next 24 hours. I am unable to function. It took me some time to trace it to milk with the hormone, but that is definitely the source of my problem. The only milk I am able to drink safely is from Trader Joe's where the dairy farmers sign a contract that they will not use the hormone. Other so-called organic milks that come from large dairy cooperatives often contain hormones. This I found out the hard way. I stay away from both Horizon and Organic Valley brands as they are not always hormone free, in spite of their claims. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Beth Website: Referred by: AOL From: US Time: 2000-08-15 15:11:11 Comments: I'm a 14 year old vegetarian, and this page changed my outlook on milk. Cows don't drink our milk, so why do most humans drink theirs? Also, there is a lot of stereotyping about how kittens love milk. I own a kitten and was informed by a vet that milk is bad for kittens and it was better for them to drink water. After reading this page I learned how milk is even worse for my kitten. Thanks for informing me of the dangers of milk. I'm going to email this to all my friends. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sigmund Elber Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Georgia Time: 2000-08-15 14:59:18 Comments: The info on you site is very interesting and I plan to look at the site more ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Darlene Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Oregon Time: 2000-08-15 14:10:27 Comments: I would like to find out what is actually IN milk. You mention about "pus" . What the heck is that about? After visiting this website I have thrown away my milk and will never drink that garbage again. I will continue to get calcium from foods an supplements. I have also emailed this site to everyone I know. Keep up the good work :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Andy Godsberg Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: New York City Time: 2000-08-15 13:59:29 Comments: Great Site! Cows' milk is for calves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Chris Website: Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement From: Boston, M.A. Time: 2000-08-15 13:53:17 Comments: Please, let's not forget that a lot of this "Scientific Data" doesn't talk about heredity. I think people go overboard with their "passions". Talk about being brain-washed - the not milk people in my eyes are the ones who are brain-washed. Milk may not be good for you or for a lot of other people in this world, but it is good for a lot of us, and I for one am not going to stop drinking milk. People have different allergies - just because I'm allergic to Strawberries, as are a lot of people, does that mean that they are bad for all of us? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: alan robichaud Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Time: 2000-08-15 13:26:24 Comments: Several years ago I began to be unable to digest normal food. While seeking the answer I found SKIM MILK was the reason. Cream and whole milk pose much less problems. I would like to know why SKIM and not WHOLE milk would cause this severe reaction. I was 21 years old I am now 26 and still having moderate problems. Doctors shake their heads and write scripts for PREVICID. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Susan Website: Referred by: AOL From: Los Angeles, California Time: 2000-08-15 13:15:11 Comments: I have been a non-dairy activist for the last 2 years. First of all, I lost around 10 pounds..just from quitting eating dairy. This site is wonderful and informative. Keep up the good work!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: chris Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-08-15 09:57:05 Comments: I think your out of your mind!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Karla Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Orlando, FL Time: 2000-08-15 09:08:58 Comments: This is a wonderfully educational site! I have a daughter with chronic asthma and we're going to give it a try! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Pamela B Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: S. Salem, NY Time: 2000-08-15 09:17:38 Comments: I am a 34 year old mother of 2 girls, ages 5 and 3. After having several miscarriages, I went on a macro-biotic diet (no sugar, dairy, caffeine, alcohol and 50 various vitamins a day, for 6 months). Three days off the diet, I was pregnant with my older daughter. Ever since I got pregnant with the her, I have been lactose intolerant. Is this because of the diet, or was the problem always there and I just didn't recognize it before the diet? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Diane Atkinson Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Pennsylvania Time: 2000-08-14 18:17:25 Comments: My daughter spent her first birthday as well as most of the spring in the hospital with asthma/dble pneumonia. 5 months later an allergy test revealed milk, casein and whey were the problem. As soon as I removed these ingredients from her diet she quickly improved and became able to once again enjoy milk, cheese ice cream, cookies you name it. Until recentlly I thought this was great she can eat theese foods as she had been for the past 10 yrs. Recently I was watching a local televison program near Islip Long Island and my eyes were really opened when I heard how milk was now made. I'm very fortunate to have watched this program because now I'm going to try little by little to eliminate milk and milk by products from our diets. I can't say that I"m excited because we are a milk family but what will be exciting is to see how we will feel when we do. Thanks.. Diane Atkinosn... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Gary Manigian Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Martinsville, NJ Time: 2000-08-13 12:34:59 Comments: I haven't had dairy products in over 20 years, except for ice cream (I'm working on that) There is some really good organic ice cream plus some great non-dairy products from Rice Dream. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: S. Thanusundaram Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: India Time: 2000-08-13 09:17:47 Comments: Informative and educative. Creats awareness about false and dangerous affinity towards milk. Good work. Let the net widen with other such products also. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ernist Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: u.s Time: 2000-08-12 09:54:52 Comments: This stuff on milk is not true do you belong to p.e.t.a PETA (no periods) stands for "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals" and, because they are an excellent and caring organization we DO link to them. Besides caring for the HUMAN animal (number ONE on our list) I agree with their concept of caring for ALL animals. http://www.notmilk.com and http://www.notmilk.com/hs exist primarily for the HUMAN animals... which does, in turn, impact on the welfare of cows and calves (and the many bulls that get the ax because they are not needed). Denial of the truth will NOT improve your health or lengthen your life (for free, yet). Rather... by ignoring the truth you aid and abet such medical problems as obesity, heart disease, faster growing cancers, osteoporosis, diabetes, asthma, behavioral problems, and more. Read and heed... or ignore and go to seed. Your choice. By the way... how are things in Mineola, TX? Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: amanda crameri Website: e crameri & sons pty ltd Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: victoria australia Time: 2000-08-12 06:18:06 Comments: I have suspected for along time that diary was actually making us all sick and presenting various allergic reactions. Our dairy free home is full of healthy, happy children who can concentrate and achieve at school, children who can throw off viral flues very quickly and suffer from very little else. I had very sore pockets under arms in the gland area, a dairy free diet has eliminated these tokins, reduced breast fluid and tenderness. I feel terrific. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Russ Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-08-10 08:59:52 Comments: Is this true????????"FDA has been receiving inquiries about whether insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1) associated with the use of recombinant bovine somatotropin (rbST) in dairy cows could have adverse effects on people who consume the milk from treated cows. Specifically, allegations have been made that dietary IGF-1 will cause breast cancer ....... FDA and other scientific and regulatory bodies have thoroughly examined the safety of milk produced by rbST-treated cows and have concluded that it is safe. The consumption of dietary IGF-1 plays no role in either inducing or promoting any human disease, nor does it cause malignant transformations of normal human breast cells .........the suggestion that IGF-1 in milk can induce or promote breast cancer in humans is scientifically unfounded and misguided. FDA has determined that milk from rBST-treated cows is safe for human consumption and has not been found to be different from milk from non-treated cows." NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Russ, Monsanto sent their top scientists and attorneys to work at FDA to gain approval for their genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. A revolving door has rewarded two ex-FDA Commissioners with Monsanto employment. History will judge the approval process for rbST as one of the great scientific frauds of the twentieth century. Levels of IGF-I always increase after cows are injected with rbST. IGF-I, the most powerful growth hormone in a cow's body, is identical in structure and amino acid sequence to human IGF-I. This powerful growth hormone has been identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast, prostate, and lung cancer. Should Monsanto or FDA wish to reveal the scope of their betrayal, they would release the Richard, Odaglia, and Deslex study in which every lab animal treated with Monsanto's hormone got cancer. They will never do so, of course. FDA concluded that there were no biological effects on lab animals from rbST-treatment. A few months ago, as a result of my hungerstrike, FDA admitted (in a ten page letter) that their original conclusion was not based upon truth. Lab animals produced antibodies to these proteins, negating their untested conclusion that bovine proteins are degraded in the stomach and gut. BOTTOM LINE: Milk is a hormonal delivery system. Genetic engineering increases the amounts of naturally occurring growth hormones in milk. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Russ Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-08-09 16:36:41 Comments: Is this true? The trace level of BST in milk does not differ significantly regardless of whether or not the animal has received supplemental BST. Furthermore, heat treatment, such as occurs with pasteurisation, inactivates 90% of the BST in milk. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: No, that is NOT true. "FURTHERMORE," FDA's conclusion that heat treatment inactivates 90% of the BST in milk was a complete fraud. They based that conclusion upon an experiment conducted by Paul Groenewegen and a group of scientists with Monsanto ties. (MacBride, Elsasser). In the study, milk was pasteurized at 162 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 minutes and only nineteen percent of the BST was deactivated. Milk is normally pasteurized for 15 seconds at that temperature, NOT 30 minutes! Monsanto and FDA nearly got away with that lie. The fraud was published in the August 24, 1990 issue of SCIENCE (Juskevich & Guyer). Not one of SCIENCE'S 500,000 readers caught this error. If not for my efforts, the world would not have learned of this deceit. Apparantly, Russ, you are still being brainwashed by this lie. By any chance, are you studying dairy science at Cornell University? Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Susan Website: Referred by: Lycos From: Ridley Park, PA Time: 2000-08-09 15:34:05 Comments: I wish I had heard this years ago. I drank tons of milk when I was pregnant. Of course, I made my little girl drink milk at every meal. At age 4-1/2, she was diagnosed with Type I, Insulin Dependent Juvenile Diabetes. It makes me sick to think this could have been avoided. Has anyone else experienced this with their children? Does anyone know how and where I can buy non-dairy substitutes? Anyone interested in a class action suit against the dairy industry? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Merja Savoniemi Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Sweden Time: 2000-08-09 09:21:58 Comments: I knew that milk is not good for us, but so much that I read from your site I didn't know!! It's the same thing with water and other things we use and don't know "the secrets", because of political and economical reasons. The mankind destroyed the beaty we got from our Creator, and we must admit that without His help we are lost!! As I'm working with health products I'll spread the word of your fantastic information and altruistic work!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Cynthia Tiano Website: Referred by: AOL From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Time: 2000-08-08 14:57:09 Comments: I didn't find you through AOL - but that was the closest menu choice. I heard Robert speak at AR 2000. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Phil Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-08-08 01:09:08 Comments: "hey web master i hope your cancer kills you soon " What a horrible thing to say!! Read the presentations, accept it or question it . . but there is absolutely no need for comments like that. Man, what is this world coming to with remarks like that? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Laura Website: Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook From: Time: 2000-08-07 10:28:06 Comments: Human milk is good for human babies. The garbage cows milk you buy in the grocery store isn't good for anyone-not even baby cows. Thanks for helping get the word out. As a pedi nurse I have been very concerned about the detrimental effects on our children & wish more people knew. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Nancy Higgins Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Virginia Time: 2000-08-07 08:33:52 Comments: I agrre that milk and meat are very dangerous. Just look at all the products on TV to alleviate symptoms. All the products for heartburn. We are suppossed to go ahead and eat sausage then medicate ourselves. Also the same is true for Lactaid. The reason milk upsets our stomach is because it is for cows not humans. Why not just eliminate these foods? Only in America do people eat such stupid foods and then let the drug companies get rich on top of it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Karen W. Brown Website: Referred by: Net Search From: York, PA Time: 2000-08-06 20:40:58 Comments: I met you at the Whole Life Conference in Baltimore and purchaced 5 copies of your book which I have been sharing with anyone who will listen. I am a Lactation Consultant and see the damage that drinking milk does during pregnancy: allergies before birth, problems with sucking after birth, colic, reflux, asthma, eczema etc.even in breastfeeding babies whose mothers drank milk during pregnancy and continue afterwards. I've been trying to tell people this for over 10 years. I also work in a health food store where I hand out reprints and your website to anyone I can get to listen. Keep up the good work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Tom Mazza Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Garfield, N.J. Time: 2000-08-06 07:45:44 Comments: I heard Robert Cohen on WOR AM last week, even taped most of it as I learned more than I wanted to know, but knowledge is power. Milk has been a big part of my life since I was a child. Now at age 45 I start to question things as far as my health & wellbeing. Feeding cows hormones & injections to increase milk production has to have effects that we still may not fully understand for years to come, but what we already know should serve notice to intelligent thinking people. We have been sold down the road by the media. The lies told to us on TV, radio & print have all been paid for by the nice folks who would rather see you sick or dead as long as their pockets get lined with your cash. But what the hell, after all these years, the American public will still vote for the political candidate with the best slogan or TV commercial. Enough said.... WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! Educate yourself & start asking questions before you & your family pay the price & become the new victims of engineered foods. I do not buy milk any more or drink it. No more ice cream & now to get off butter (not easy) I am making it my business to get off it & spread the word. Thanx Robert Cohen. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Lucy Website: The Vegan Family House Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Scotland Time: 2000-08-06 06:11:35 Comments: What a wonderful site - you are spreading powerful, health-promoting information here. Our health as a family has improved hugely after cutting out dairy four years ago - let's hope the truth becomes more widely known soon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ashlie Visco Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Canada Time: 2000-08-05 23:46:51 Comments: Milk is very good for you actually. As a public health nurse i see many women with Ostoperosis. for them the awnser is very simple they need Calcium. And milk is one of the best providers of this type of nurriture. Yes, some people are allergic to milk, however some people are allergic to cucumbers as well. Everyone is different. I hope you fokes don't expect everone to become a "VEGIN." We like in a well off country. Why arn't you proud of that? Women are made to excreet milk to feed their young, it's natural thing. Brest milk is saterated with the mothers immune system to protect th baby, because babies they are born without an immune system, and need this until they develop their own! I SUPPORT MILK AND THE INDUSTRY (which creates needed jobs) Next time you visit, try reading something. If you have problems in that department... try the "short course": http://www.dorway.com/milkinfo.txt Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: jd Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-08-04 23:18:49 Comments: hey web master i hope your cancer kills you soon Your like-minded dishonorable fellows at the FDA and Monsanto wish the same thing, I'm sure. Sorry, but I refuse to expire until nameless, irresponsible, unaccountable and just plain MEAN sorry examples of humanity like you are out of business. I owe that much to my grandchildren! Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Dr. Isa Infante Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Knoxville, Tennessee Time: 2000-08-04 22:12:56 Comments: Finally, the word is out about dairy products......I consider dairy the no. l incubator of disease (no. 2 is sugar, no. 3 is land-mined salt (which contains sugar and aluminum), and no. 4 is meat. I will refer your website to as many people as I can. Thanks for the good work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Noel Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: DC Time: 2000-08-01 13:47:29 Comments: Well, friends, if you're gonna post a guestbook-message from a Hagelin supporter, here's my push for Nader: from what I've seen of his own eating habits (in person), not to mention his consumer advocacy, Mr. Nader is as close as you're going to get to a candidate who would help crack down on the Dairy world! Bush and Gore make we wanna Ralph... Noel Actually, no president has ever been "ideal". For too many years too many folks have said it seems to be a choice between the lessor of evils. Many say Regan was great for America... but he is the one who let aspartame get to market, and if he used it... that may have cost him his mind. Nixon was said to have been great at foreign policy, but he is the one who took three million from the dairy folks and then twiddled with milk price supports that still bite the American taxpayer in the wallet. The purpose of NOTMILK.com has nothing to do with politics. It has more to do with the RESULT of bad politics. NOTMILK, hungerstrike, DairyEducationBoard.com (new), and others are concerned with human health and the provable fact that cow's milk and dairy is VERY detrimental to the health of all who consume it. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: mr_natural Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-07-31 00:55:51 Comments: Spread the word! Stop the insanity! Vote for John Hagelin! "it is only in compassion that wisdom finds its fullest expression" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Millie Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Phoenix, AZ Time: 2000-07-30 13:32:26 Comments: This is a very informative site. I have never liked milk but I do eat cheese but not for long! Thanks for the information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Harry Beckham Website: Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook From: Altamonte Springs, Florida 32701 Time: 2000-07-29 12:26:45 Comments: Hello Again, I'm a Type II Diabetic. It's been one month now and I've not had a Gucose reading above 123 and I read twice a day, and alternate AM & PM to Noon & supper. I went for my 90 day check up on 7/19/00 and got results of my 7/12/00 fasting Blood (HbA1C)Test. It was down to 6.0% from 6.3% in April/00. My Oct/99 was 5.9% and went up to 6.1% in Jan/00, and up again in April to 6. as stated above. I had to do something to stop the spikes(high/low reading) ,and the higher AbA1c Sugar results. So I started a Duel Diet of: "Eat Right for your Blood Type" B+; and "Not Milk". The results in just 30 days speaks for itself! My goal is to be off my Meds(Glucaphage 500mg twice a day)by Jan 2001. I've been drinking White Wave"Silk"Plain Soymilk distributed by White Wave, Inc.Boulder, C) 80301 and sold in most Albertson Stores. Surf White Wave: I also have been eating Soy Maze Cheese(no casein), and Millet & Oat Breads(no casein) and lots of Turkey. Fish, Eggs and Red meats are okay for my Blood type though. I'm mixing some vegan burgers in to off set too much beef. I have given up all chicken(eggs are okay), Ham, Pork, Bacon,ShellFish,Shrimp,Crab,Lobster,Clams,Corn,Wheat,Barley,Tomatoes,Ketchup(Very Bad for me), Black Beans, Avocado, Olives, Popcorn and most Peanuts. Even though Almonds and Walnuts are okay for my type. The Proof is coming in so far, and my goal for 2001 is in reach. Today is my birthday, and what a gift! The past 2 1/2 years of up and down now look like a thing of the past. Exercise on my small trampoline of 300 to 350 jumping jacks helps each day. This is done inside with AC on. Thank you for the gift of Life! Harry Beckham Thank you VERY much for this fine "payday" for our efforts to spread the WHOLE truth. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sarah Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Missouri Time: 2000-07-28 20:32:03 Comments: Do you honestly believe all this crap you're pushing off as "science"? Have you even taken a science course in your life? After reading through the so-called research (that is, before I had to quit because it got too ignorant), I have yet to see any shred of scientific evidence. All I read was a bunch of "when milk consumption increased, x also increased". Pushing off such figures as hard proof is the worst kind of faulty science. However, I'll give you this: for undiluted crackpot knowledge, you're obviously undisputed. Sigh! Please visit notmilk.com and hungerstrike.com again ... this time with your eyes open and with an unbiased mind. If that is not possible... then please stay in good standing with your health insurance company and DO keep your premium paid in full. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rich Boyajian Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Boston, MA Time: 2000-07-27 13:50:35 Comments: I am a cancer survivor who is studing to become a nurse practitioner. Most peopel are not aware of the dangers and expect the government to protect us. I have a daughter who I will not give her BGH. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jenny Easton Website: Something in the Way Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: USA Time: 2000-07-27 10:55:53 Comments: It's amazing how little I knew about milk!!! I'm a regular milk drinker and now that I've read the facts, I think I will reconsider! Thank you for posting such useful information on your site! JEN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Eileen Rolon Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Somerville,NJ Time: 2000-07-26 20:55:33 Comments: Apparently I have been in a coma! I never really liked milk - thank god - but used to love cheese. Now I have every reason in the world to go organic veg - my daughter! She will never drink that crap!! In fact, after I stopped nursing I had put her on milk-based formula, after about two months she would begin to vomit about half of the bottle back. So on the advice of the same friend who recommended this website, I switched to soy - its not organic , but it has to be an improvement, she doesn't vomit at all !!! It's good to be awake!!! er ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Max Leitch Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Morton, IL Time: 2000-07-26 17:48:51 Comments: I have recently started a complete plant-based diet. I am 17 years old. For the past year I have been having huge headpains in the back of my head, that by the end of the day would move forward to the rest of my head. It is the worst pain imaginable. It has been a month since I have stopped eating animal products and my head pains have completely gone away since then. I don't really know if they have anything to do with eachother, but it does sound like a huge coincidence. Aspartame (Equal/Nutrasweet) causes headaches in many people... as does mono sodium glutamate (MSG, the flavor enhancer) used in MOST processed foods. Both are "excitotoxins", and when taken together they CAN cause amplified damage (not unlike taking certain drugs with alcohol). See: http://www.dorway.com on aspartame and See: http://www.truthinlabeling.org on MSG. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sara Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-07-23 16:39:45 Comments: There is absolutely nothing wrong with drinking milk!!!! I live on a dairy farm and I think that it is wonderful stuff! It is very healthy!!! I don't agree with anything that you say!!! They say that "ignorance is bliss". That was certainly true for me for the 60 some-odd years during which I consumed large amounts of cow's milk and dairy... all that really tasty stuff! (an acquired taste, by the way). However, a bit over two years ago I was introduced to the WHOLE truth about cow's milk. After learning about the powerful IGF-1 growth hormone, that is identical between cows and humans, I now understand WHY my surprise case of prostate cancer grew so rapidly that it had already spread by the young age of 55. IGF-1... is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of cancers. I have been dairy-free for over two years... and my often-cursed cancer now grows FOUR TIMES more *SLOWLY* without that extra IGF-1 my blood. For me, and I would submit FOR ALL CANCER VICTIMS... cow's milk is NOT a "taste to die for"! The problem is, dear misguided Sara, that thanks to *MOST* governments, medical systems, insurance companies, and forms of mass media... THOSE WHO NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH ARE DENIED IT! For those who are not yet fighting an already diagnosed cancer... there are still the OTHER 58 hormones, scores of allergens, herbicides, pesticides, PCB's, dioxins, extra iodine, traces of up to 52 antibiotics, species-specific lactoferrins and immunoglobulins that create antibodies, calcium-depleting protein (casein), saturated fats (50% of whole milk, 34% of "2%" milk), enough cholesterol in three glasses of milk to equal 53 slices of bacon, viruses, perhaps some paraTB, prions (that lead to Mad Cow Disease)... all topped off by an FDA limit of 20 MILLION live bacteria and 750 MILLION somatic (PUS!) cells per liter. And... there is MORE! Oops... sorry, Sara. Sorry to destroy your blissful ignorance. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Denise Cohn Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Exton, Pennsylvania Time: 2000-07-22 09:43:50 Comments: I love your website and visit it often to keep up on the latest news. It is sickening to think of what Monsanto gets away with, especially when it is effecting the nations health and the health of our children. I would love to know the number of dairy farmers who actually drink the poison that they create and how many have soy milk in their refrigerators? Keep up the great work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: not j. jackson Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-07-21 11:14:58 Comments: i could really be doing other things than writing a comment for a milk ad ban, but this is silly. i am quite educated in the "getting an a from hot teacher" subject. i am 24, and did that at 17, and the teacher was 22. i am not ashamed, and got cool points for doing it. i am not saying that all teachers should be doing this, actully it is wrong. but, this is a milk ad. i had no idea who josh jackson was, much less dawson creek, or for that matter, ever seen a milk ad for the mustache, except for mark mcguire. i think whever started this, had good intentions, but has totally blown this out of proportion. i found this site looking at a search for "can someone drink a gallon of milk in one hour and not puke?" next thing i know, i have josh jackson on my screen. sorry, you guys have too much time on your hands. please write back with response. thank you. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: I imagine that the "A" you received came from a teacher whose expertise was in a subject other than English. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: laurel Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: USA Time: 2000-07-20 00:08:21 Comments: Hey, just wanted to say I think this is a great website. This information needs to be out there more. Keep it up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kim Dell'Agnese Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Nashville, TN Time: 2000-07-19 21:52:42 Comments: WOW ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Matt Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: nj Time: 2000-07-19 21:04:37 Comments: I don't buy it. This web page was made up by a bunch of lactose intolerant losers ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: lee o Website: Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement From: Northwest Indiana Time: 2000-07-19 12:09:26 Comments: Heard you on the Mike Segal talk radio show recently, compelling, intelligent and convincing information was presented. Since the show I've made the transformation to non dairy, began using "Sun Soy" brand milk and enjoying the taste! I now tell people of your web site, keep up the good work. I was familiar with the works of Jethro Kloss 20 years ago, thanks for reinforcing my latent beliefs in a non-dairy, very limited meat consumption diet, life style. Lee O ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: pulin Website: the day before tomorrow Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: ny/nj Time: 2000-07-18 11:15:14 Comments: I haven't been to your page in a while. It's really great, but what I find even better is the guestbook and how so many people have positive things to say. Keep up the great work. -Pulin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Harry Beckham Website: Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook From: Altamonte Springs, Florida 32701 Time: 2000-07-17 10:49:53 Comments: Dear Mr Cohen: I found you on the Art Bell Show or Coast to Coast Show with Mike Segal, and it was enlightning. You need to come back on again, as more people need to find it. I'm a Type II Diabetic(3 yrs.) I take 500 gms. two times a day. I exercise and diet. For the past 18 days I've been following the "NotMilk Plan" and also follow the "Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type" too! Six months ago my A1C reading was 5.9 but in April it was 6.1 and my Glucose readings were even higher for May and June.(81/156) So on June 30 I went to "NotMilk.Com" and also started the "EatRight 4 My Bood Type B+" diet. Now my readings are between 77 and 121 and much closer together. I'm not having any spikes like last year. I have a question though. There are conflicts on the two diets, and I'm trying to balance the two. My main question is the product from Soy: "Lecithin" which is a protein Gluten,which I hope is a good one? Thank You for your help, Harry Beckham so ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mathew Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Athens, Georgia Time: 2000-07-14 12:57:21 Comments: Robert, Thank you for all of your hard work over the years. I appreciate the enormous amount of effort that it must have taken to present such a case. I imagine that you aren't getting rich off of any of this, at least, not monetarily. In my own experience, ending dairy consumption made my asthma disappear, helped me drop 50 pounds (to reach and maintain my ideal weight), gave me more energy to do things like run triathlons, and unexpectantly ended the morning ritual of clearing tons of junk from my nose. I feel so much healthier, and I wish I could share how I feel instead of trying to explain it with words. It just doesn't do it justice. It's all an uphill battle against an incredibly well-financed campaign, as you intimately know. I try to be active in my community and educate people about issues such as these. You've helped provide a great amount of ammunition that is making people all over the country question this food. Please keep up effort into the web site and the rest of your work. Thank you again, Mathew Grimm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Starr Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Seattle, WA Time: 2000-07-11 15:33:52 Comments: i've been vegan for over 2 yrs and feel soooo much better....my asthma has basically disappeared, my allergies have improved, no more cramps, the list goes on. it's hard to explain to people who consume massive quantities of dairy and claim they feel fine that milk is "evil" and damaging to their health, not to mention disgusting. maybe i should forward them this website?!? : ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Gene Martin Website: GEMtech Services Referred by: From a Friend From: NH Time: 2000-07-11 10:54:49 Comments: I just got your book, "Milk, the deadly poison" from a friend. I look forward to reading it as I have beleived for a long time that Milk is bad. I have read "Fit For Life" and they are very much against dairy product because of the adverse effects it has on us physically. I am against the promotion of Milk for reasons of personal health, but I also don't like what is happening on farms, to the animals. We live in a wicked world full of greed, and that is what spurrs these types of things on. I look forward to a better world in the future. Psalm 37:11 & 29 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: amanda Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: maine Time: 2000-07-10 21:39:48 Comments: kewl very interesting ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: riddhi gandhi Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: india Time: 2000-07-10 07:32:37 Comments: its fab ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jerome Dingess jr Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: West Virginia Time: 2000-07-09 00:09:38 Comments: Keep up the great work. Get the message out and save our lives from the big business of Milk, the cow disease epidemic...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Godfrey Daniels Website: Fight The Future Referred by: Net Search From: Tampa, Florida Time: 2000-07-08 16:49:39 Comments: Please pardon the intrusion, but I thought you would like to know. The book version of Chris Carter's X-Files movie is called "Fight the Future". In the story, the heroes discover a plot to use genetic engineering to mutate human beings into alien life forms. In a case similar to life imitating art, the U.S. government has allowed chemical, and other, companies to genetically engineer foodcrops. Their intention was to create plants which would have self-contained pesticides, and to create food plants and animals which would produce more food more economically. Since profits were the prime motivator, genetically engineered organisms (GMOs) have gotten out of control, as detailed in official government documents, and threaten all life on earth. Find out about it at one of the sites below, and then do everthing you can to "Fight the Future" we all face. I urge everyone interested to mirror this site, especially to other countries, and most especially if you can translate it to languages other than English. http://besu.ch/ fight-the-future1.edu Fight The Future Prime (URL alias) http://www.technomusic.org/ gdaniels Fight The Future Prime real URL name http://w3.to/fight-the- future2.edu Fight The Future first mirror (URL alias> http://www.polbox.com/g/ gdaniels Fight The Future first mirror real URL name http://fightthefuture3.b3.nu Fight the Future second mirror http://www.crosswinds.net/santa-barbara/~gdaniels7 Fight The Future second mirror real URL name If there are spaces in the URL addresses above, that's an error in my coding, and not part of the address. Third and fourth mirror sites are in development. Once completed, the site and all mirrors will be listed at all sites. If you mirror this site, please inform me so that I can list all mirrors at all my sites. I'll call them fifth, sixth, etc., as I hear of them. Once I list them, consider using a URL forwarder to use the "FIGHT THE FUTURE" name, with an extension of .EDU if possible. Don't hesitate to publicise all sites, including any you mirror, yourself, by telling everyone you know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ron Knutt Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: North Dakota Time: 2000-07-06 23:23:34 Comments: Thanks for the information. I had quite milk 13 years ago, as I was putting on to much weight. I read "FIT FOR LIFE" and "FIT FOR LIFE II" and had quite all meat for quite sometime, but I started to eat fish and now that I have read the "MAD COWBOY" all meat is gone. I was still eating more than my share of ICE CREAM, but as of 2 weeks ago I quite this also. I can notice my stomach is already getting smaller. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Curtis Harris Website: Professor Curtis Referred by: Net Search From: Emeryville, California 10 miles east of San Francisco Time: 2000-07-06 19:19:54 Comments: See the email that I sent the notmilk workshop about Milk making thousands in Japan today. This is an important. Its a real cover-up! The story has already been pulled from the AP wire. See original story at http://professorcurtis.com/MilkSick.htm Curtis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Janet Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Atlanta, GA Time: 2000-07-06 17:31:50 Comments: Wow, what a great site! It's absolutely chilling to me to think how many people in this country are happily guzzling, cancer-stimulating hormones and feeding them to their children. I gave up dairy products a year ago after two years of irritable bowel syndrome and have been symptom-free ever since. It pains me to watch my mother put milk on her cereal because it is "good" for her osteoporosis and then listen to her cough and gag up mucus for an hour afterward. Thanks for some good supporting evidence to use on people who don't comprehend why I wouldn't want to drink milk or eat cheese. Keep up the good work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Count Website: Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement From: Time: 2000-06-29 07:06:17 Comments: Great site, I am going to be adding it as a link on my (in development) website and have already added it to another one. I am especially greatful for the genetic engineering information which I always find most interesting. Thanks Again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Dr.Susan Eissinger, D.C. Website: Self Understanding Referred by: NewsGroups From: chico, california Time: 2000-06-27 20:19:25 Comments: Hi Robert. I heard your interview on Coast to Coast AM, it was excellent! I have been a Vegan for over twelve years, and a vegetarian for over thirty five years. I tell all my patients to get off dairy products if they want to prevent health problems. You are totally right. Dairy is destroying our health. It is imperative to get children off dairy immediately and encourage parents to start giving them fresh fruit and vegetable juices. Thank you for bringing light to this subject. Sincerely, Dr.Eissinger ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Noel Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: DC Time: 2000-06-26 13:43:28 Comments: Erich (Sock Sniffer??), Try this, aside from ditching milk. Give up the meat and cheese, go on a colon and liver cleansing program, start juicing, spend time in fresh air, exercise, pray, and love and be thankful for your life and friends. That should do the trick; but don't look outward for changes, look inward. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Angela Trenholm Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Kelowna, BC, Canada Time: 2000-06-24 01:04:20 Comments: I've heard many negative comments about milk over the last ten years, but your site really brought everything into perspective. It makes me sick to see how power hungry people can be, at the expense of so many people. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Erich Heino Website: Soksniffer Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: California Time: 2000-06-23 19:18:17 Comments: Well, I haven't consumed milk for 2 weeks now. This is just an experiment to see what happens - it's not a permanent change. Now, although I've stopped drinking milk, I still eat meat, and some cheese. I was expecting, based on what I've read on this site, that I would have experienced some new level of clarity, some sort of quasi-religious ascent to a new plane of reality, as the fog induced by a lifetime of daily milk consumption cleared. It hasn't happened yet. When will the universe lay bare her primal secrets to me? When will I experience the epiphany of revelations? As a footnote, I can't even be sure that I've lost weight yet, since I haven't been to the gym for 2 weeks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mike Jones Website: Mikes Place Referred by: From a Friend From: Dell City tx Time: 2000-06-23 18:35:38 Comments: The heck with all you whackos. I'm drinking milk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Bill Lee Website: Truckin' with the Lord! Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Ohio, USA Time: 2000-06-23 18:37:05 Comments: I was greatly enlightened upon hearing you on the (Art Bell's) "Coast to Coast AM" show with Mike Seagal. Driving the Highways of this great country of our's that night, I could not wait until I was able to take some "hometime", allowing me to log-on and more deeply research your website and links. I was totally apalled at the cover-ups, half-truths, and down right lies that we have all been fed (along with the hormones, antibiotics and puss) by the Dairy Industry. My wife and I are now on the path to a more pure and healthy diet. Though not one that is strictly vegetarian (we still are eating poultry and fish), we are enjoying, in a major way, all of the new (to us) food choices out there. We are totally NON-DAIRY and NON-MONSANTO, and are currently informing as many of our friends as possible of the blatent abuse of trust that has been played out upon all of us. Thank you for your honesty, and desire to spread the truth! May God richly bless you and your's! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: PYROBOB Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: ATLANTA,GA. Time: 2000-06-23 02:43:10 Comments: GREAT SITE. GOOD INFO ON THE EVILS OF MILK. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON THE PROTEIN PRODUCTS USED BY BODYBUILDERS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: B K Bakshi Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: INDIA Time: 2000-06-22 17:46:37 Comments: I am an dairy technocrat having worked for 35 years in this sector with asi's largest milk co-operative-AMUL and also associated with non-governrnment organization working for the cause-animal protection/salvation and vegetarianism in india which off late becoming controvercial although I see lot of difference in dairy industry in USA and India-I have my apprehension on agreeing to many views expressed thro'several platforms-The reason being the milk production and professional way of making the industry viable for very large mass of producers who live in villages and earn thro'this vehicle of changes which has benifitted a very large numbers of farmers and more so helped in many fold to elevate the standard of living,availability of basic infrastructure at village level etc.And also hold different views on the processes like Pasteurization-Homoginazation too;Milk is not Myth-has its own values.Thanks NAME:/B K Bakshi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: elisa marcus hooker Website: reliv international Referred by: From a Friend From: atlanta georgia Time: 2000-06-22 15:21:44 Comments: i enjoyed your website immensely. i am done with milk and have switched to soy milk or rice milk. i do soybased nutritional supplements to replenish my system from those vitamins and minerals it is depleted of. please visit me at www.gotsoy.org i am not a total vegan but i am on my way. thanks elisa ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Nora Lee Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Cow Country, Pennsylvania Time: 2000-06-21 23:06:02 Comments: Mr. Cohen, I'm thankful I was fed soy protein 45 years ago! Never have acquired the lust for blood & pus. The information available on this site is quite provocative. I am aware that there is a revolving door for the Monsanto/FDA/USDA triad but what I've read here is almost UNBELIEVABLE! Time for some letter-writing..... I've passed on info from this site to friends and have been asked about your "credentials". Could you share them with us? Respectfully yours, NL NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Nora Lee, Thomas Edison was once asked to explain the secrets to his successes and include his credentials. Edison's response bears tribute to age-old advice regarding human discovery and progress: "My success is due to one-precent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration." I have basic tools, of course. As an undergraduate, I performed research in the field of psychoneuroendocrinology. One lesson, taught well, was to identify and eliminate extraneous variables during the course of designing an experiment. This skill enabled me to peel apart layer after layer of scientific fraud during the course of FDA's approval process for Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. I consider myself to be a messenger. Is there any other individual or group on the World Wide Web with 1784 letters in his guestbook? Can you find one man or woman who has written a column, in his or her field for every single day during a continuous 500 day period? Read the letters, with my responses. Read the 'squirts' of notmilk wisdom. Every day I continue to learn new evidence about milk's harmful effects, and share them with my readers. My life work is who I am. Those are my credentials. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Denise M. Aranda Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: El Paso, Texas Time: 2000-06-21 19:18:28 Comments: Mr. Cohen, I will do my part in helping spread the word about the evil Monsanto. I truely enjoyed hearing your lecture in El Paso as part of the Vegetarian Society's function. Thank you for your dedication and for your committment on an issue that seems to be resinanting to deaf ears of money misers! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: carmen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Canada Time: 2000-06-21 01:58:27 Comments: I support many of the philosophies of this cause and I personally do not consume dairy products. However, since you have gone off the hunger strike you are back to your rude comments. For example, belittling your wife for buying non-dairy topping. In your efforts to make sure that Americans are informed with truth and have the free will to make their own choices - you continue to demean others for making those same choices. This will never win support and therefore you are hurting this cause in many ways rather than helping it. Perhaps you could be a little more diplomatic in your insults - isn't that the American way?? The truth should be told - but then it is up to the individual to make their own decisions. Even your wife has that right, believe it or not. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Carmen, I disagree with you. I continued to make RUDE comments during my hungerstrike. One simply has to read my testimony before USDA & FDA to understand that I will use my brand of humor, sarcasm, and wit to call 'em as I see 'em. Visit http://www.notmilk.com/hs/fdatestim.html for the FDA testimony. Visit http://www.notmilk.com/hs/usdatest.html for the USDA testimony. It is true that I insulted my wife for buying non-dairy creamer. She should have read the ingredients and have noted the presense of sodium caseinate, a milk derivative. My wife has heard me lecture about this at least eleventy-seven times, and knows better than most the effects that casein has on our children. When it concerns milk and dairy consumption, I will continue to be the same obnoxious character that I have always been! I promise to be a bit gentler with those who have not previously heard the truth about milk! Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Michael Hedstrom Website: Hedstorm Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Illinois Time: 2000-06-20 11:59:21 Comments: I heard you on Coast to Coast and was intrigued. Too bad one can't sue the Dairy Council as was done to the Tobacco industry.There seems to be a great deal more wool being pulled over the publics' eyes in this case. I don't seem to recall any sports heros coming on my TV saying "Got Smokes?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: qwazz Website: The OBE Phenomenon Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: New Jersey Time: 2000-06-19 22:54:10 Comments: METHINKS YOU're a couple fries short of a HAPPY MEAL. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jo Ann Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Las Vegas, Nv Time: 2000-06-19 19:28:01 Comments: You were a Great Guest on the Coast to Coast radio broadcast. If people would just give ONE thought to WHAT they eat, a cow, a pig, chicken on, and on. "Truth" is where you find it!! I recall the follwing bit of information years ago. My oldest son suggestsed I put it "in writing" and post it on the internet for others. My daughter-in-law liked it and posted it on the fridge door for their two girls. Here goes >>>> "Keeping it Simple" Breakfat; Waking up and getting started with the rising sun. Fruits that grow on trees are great morning starters and eliminators. Lunch; The moon meal as the sun gets closer, the green leafy fibrosis "stuff" that grows above the ground are sweepers that cleans and sweeps the inside walls of your clogged vessels. Dinner; The evening meal as the sun descends so low in the sky, the root vegetables. The body builders, all the foods growing below the ground. A way to keep in-tune with "Mother Earth" Sleep well while your body does the rest!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Karl Jungclaus Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Tucson Time: 2000-06-19 07:25:29 Comments: Outstanding site!! If people would just allow themselves to read this site instead of watching TV. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carlos Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Minnesota Time: 2000-06-19 02:06:02 Comments: I heard you on Jeff Rense last night. I have to tell you, im throwing out the milk in my fridge and im never going back. Ive always wondered why i felt like krap after eating large quantities of dairy products. Now I know why. Thanks Mr. Cohen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ruth Ann Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Australia Time: 2000-06-18 05:00:53 Comments: I love your website. I don't drink milk, and rarely eat cheese. You have simply enlightened me with a few dozen more reasons to avoid milk. I became a vegetarian for health reasons, and have never felt better. I am 2.5 stone lighter than I was two years ago, have started exercising regularly again and am running my first 10 k run in 12 years. I am considering a vegan diet and will most likely make the transition over a few month's time. Thumbs up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Monika Penner Website: Vegan Feminist Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: B.C. (Canada) Time: 2000-06-17 20:57:37 Comments: Lovely site... I visit frequently... Nice that this site has gained much publicity... I see links to it quite often. When and if I ever update my site, I would love to add your site as a link (if I may- you can email me re: this). Yours is an important message... Told in such a stylish way! Cheers! Monika ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Monika C. Pattantyus Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Watertown, MA Time: 2000-06-16 13:53:14 Comments: I am vegan for health reason, and this website confirms what I already know about milk. I also wholeheartedly agree with Robert Cohen's statements about the FDA and USDA: they are all liars and are controlled by the big corporations in the milk, sugar, meat, chicken, poultry, etc., industries. I do not trust a blessed thing these agencies say as they have no clue what they're talking about. All they care about are dollar signs, not the well-being of people in this country. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Christina M. Chan Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Minneapolis, MN Time: 2000-06-15 21:41:13 Comments: Okay, here are my comments. This site is exceptional! I am planning to email people with this site address starting tonite. I am so emotionally charged by the entire issue of GE foods, etc. and am doing my part to bring awareness to others on the subject. I cannot understand how there can be so many ignorant people on this planet! It is not even funny is it. Anyway, thank you for this website and I will be sure to "pass it on". ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Patricia Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: New York Time: 2000-06-15 14:36:19 Comments: I just wanted to say that my husband and I have been dairy free for six months, and we have never felt better. I truly beleive that there is a massive conspiracy going on to keep people from knowing about the evils of dairy. It is such a terribly frightening situation. As soon as people find out that we live "dairy-free", they think there is something wrong with US!! It's as though everyone is brainwashed or something! Thank you so much for your informative site. I'm sure it is a useful tool in letting people know the actual TRUTH about dairy, rather than what the media and dairy farmers are trying to pass off as fact. Thanks again! Patricia ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Soksniffer Website: Poor Snickers!! Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Parts Unknown Time: 2000-06-14 19:37:45 Comments: Another milk horror story for you all... I have a dog -- a dachshund -- named Snickers, whom I love very much. Snickers is the best dog in the whole wide world, so cute and clever; I have two little balls that he just loves to play with and lick... it's adorable! Anyway, he also loves looking in the refrigerator whenever I get food out. Today, I went to the fridge and was reaching for a jar of pickles in the back and as I pulled it out, I accidentally knocked my old gallon of milk (on which, with a sharpie pen, I've drawn a picture of a skull and crossbones as a constant reminder of milk being a deadly poison) out onto poor Snickers! There was a muffled yelp, then he just laid there whining! I think the heavy milk jug broke hapless Snickers' little leg! I took him to the vet, and he's still there, so I don't know how bad off he is, but when I find out, you can rest assured I'll be filing a class-action lawsuit against the monstrous criminals at Alta-Dena and the Dairy Council. Poor, poor Snickers... please be all right! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kent Hawley Website: Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button From: Spokane, Wa... Time: 2000-06-14 18:42:09 Comments: Heard your interview on coast to coast a.m. The info blew me away. I think of all the years (50+) that I've believed the milk myth. I have ordered your book and can't wait to share this info with other people. I can imagine most people will not want to hear nor accept the reality of the myth. Thanks God Bless and keep up the good work ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-06-14 07:14:43 Comments: If milk were actually good for you, why aren't people out there sucking on Cow teats, instead of buying treated, added to/subtracted from and bottled Cow milk? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: K Kotongan Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Time: 2000-06-14 05:14:23 Comments: I am quite impressed with your work, and also grateful. I have always been quite healthy, no health problems I would consider out of the ordinary, then again I'm lactose intolerant, nature's way of saying that cow milk is not for me I guess. I also have a two-year-old who I was just advised by the pediatrician to give more milk, lots of milk (meaning cow milk), even though I am still nursing, and giving my child the benefit of my own milk. I know people have said that milk is the perfect food with protein and calcium and all, and I'm inclined to agree... cow milk IS the perfect food... if you happen to be a calf! Likewise, my milk is the perfect food for my child, providing the appropriate balance of nutrition and loving closeness. I have long thought that the consumption of cows and dairy products was probably not the best course, and now that I've had the benefit of your work, I am done with that. Upon hearing what you have to say (especially about what cows are fed!) I was moved up out of my chair and into the kitchen where I found myself dumping most of the contents of a carton of vitamin D milk. I also appreciate that you provide links for alternatives, and there are so many! I've dabbled in alternative foods and cooking, now I simply have the information to motivate me to commit to making that my full-time menu. Thank you, and I know you know this, but please ignore the nay-sayers, what you present and your hard work are invaluable and greatly appreciated! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Soksniffer Website: Attention Eric Heino Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Parts Unknown Time: 2000-06-13 16:20:12 Comments: I did what you said and asked myself why Ms. Spears would have lowered herself -- gone "slumming," if you will -- to appear in a milk-mustache ad, but given all of the evidence, I think the answer is: she didn't. Britney, as is well documented in interviews, plans to abstain from certain relations until she marries, and I'm certain that this would include such activities as would cause her to appear in such a compromising photograph, with that awful white substance smeared over her lip. Thus, the only reasonable conclusion is that the pictures are fakes; the internet is rife with such doctored photographs. Now, as for me being a "pawn," as you so callously put it, of the anti-dairy industry... checkmate, Mr. Heino (if that is even your real name). I say checkmate because (and you can ask *yourself* this!) how could any drink that's supposedly good for you go bad? I've never heard of water going bad just because it got left out in the sun, and MY evian doesn't have an expiration date on the bottle! The same goes for healthy fruit juices -- I have a can of pineapple juice in my cupboard that will outlive me if I never open it! And, the final nail in the coffin of your argument (YOUR coffin is being nailed shut by your foolhardy insistence on consuming that deadly, deadly poison): Three of the letters in "milk" are the same as three of the letters in the word "kill." To put it another way, the words "milk" and "kill" are 75% identical. As a (supposedly) intelligent individual, you can't honestly think that's just a coincidence, can you? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Thomas Website: SMD party HQ Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Washington DC Time: 2000-06-13 00:09:53 Comments: whoah. geez. chill. Enough with the hurting-oy. Anyway, as you can guess, I'm a lifelong omnivore. I don't judge people on what they eat. Hell, I got vegan friends. (by the way DON'T eat those hotess fruit cakes, beef fat is one of the ingrediants--i.e. cherries, sugar + beef fat, trust me) You don't have to gain support to your cause by scare tactics and pseudo science. Take the early sexual maturity nonsense, the reason that has happened is genetic variance due to interracial and interethnic marriages mixed with the estrogen in crazy-ass plastics. Also, women have better nutrition in the last 30 years, same with Japan after WWII, just look at the height of WWII Japanese and their children. (also we're not getting a massive surge of gynecomastia, so it shoots that theory to hell, I've been drinking milk for years, and I still have normal pecs) Just keep eating the way you do, I'll keep eating the way I do. Don't be so zealous about converts or anything, that just makes you as crazy as fundamentalists who believe everyone else is going to hell. Just chill, don't make stuff up. You all chew on a stick of celery and sip a V-8 by the pool, while I chew on a slim jim and sip my milk on the seat next to you. Crownseraph- "Go after the true evils of prejudice and conflict, and join forces with your mental opponents, so that you may live in harmony." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Erich Heino Website: A German guy Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Germany, California Time: 2000-06-12 21:59:38 Comments: I've got 4 words for Soksniffer - get real you pawn of the anti-dairy industry. Ask yourself this, if milk were actually bad for you, why would the lovely Britney Spears be drinking it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: JeNeen Website: Referred by: Net Search From: atlanta, GA Time: 2000-06-12 20:09:22 Comments: The book was awesome. This is vitally important information and I pray that millions will get the picture. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mary Website: "Animal Research is Scientific Fraud" Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: St. Louis, MO Time: 2000-06-12 17:14:04 Comments: In reading a few of the more recent comments, it is clear that some people would rather stick to the beliefs they were brought up with than to open their minds to new possibilities. I refer specifically to 'David' and 'Kuni.' David was emphatic that everything has risks and dangers, and that even fruits and veggies contain chemicals. Both of those statements are true; however, there are ways to minimize one's exposure to the risks and dangers of life. Common sense tells us to wear seat belts in our cars, look both ways before crossing the street, and avoid standing under a tree in a windstorm. Likewise, we know that consuming animal products is a very real danger to our health. There may be debate as to the extent of the danger, but it exists nonetheless. While produce that comes from non-organic growers does contain a small percentage of pesticide residue, it pales in comparison to the amount of chemicals retained in the muscle tissue of butchered animals and in the milk produced by dairy cows. Furthermore, the range of chemicals given to meat and dairy animals is extensive: growth hormones, antibiotics, pesticides and herbicides on their feed, chemicals to reduce fat content in the meat. These are consumed daily by the animals on today's intensive farms. Not to mention the ground remains of dead animals, which the USDA permits as feed material. Does avoiding meat and dairy guarantee a long and pain-free life? Of course not; but it certainly gives a person a much better chance of having fewer chronic illnesses. As far as Kuni's comment regarding calcium goes, broccoli is hardly the only calcium alternative. In addition, the calcium needs of an individual go up in direct proportion to his or her protein intake. What that means is that the more meat you consume the more calcium you NEED to consume. Protein leeches calcium from the bones, so a vegan naturally requires less calcium than a meat-eater. People should research issues and open their minds to alternate possibilities before automatically dismissing what they don't understand. Fortunately, most of the comments indicate that people are receptive to these ideas and willing to give them a chance. Thanks for allowing me to speak. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: THE DAIRY DEFENDER Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: AMERICA'S DAIRYLAND Time: 2000-06-12 17:02:12 Comments: HMMMMMM....., READ ALL THE ARTICLES, CHECKED OUT YOUR WORK, AND FOUND LOTS MISSING. WHAT WAS MISSING? TRY THE TRUTH. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TRY TO ADD THE TRUTH NEXT TIME, OR AT LEAST THE WHOLE ARTICLES SO PEOPLE WON'T BE SWAYED BY YOUR CHEAP LIES."VIVA LAS DAIRY PRODUCTS!" LOVE,THE DAIRY DEFENDER ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: angie Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: leesport, pa Time: 2000-06-12 14:39:14 Comments: I would like to know where you get your info or it is something that you just fabricate to scare ignorant people. Milk is nature's most perfect food providing your body with calcium, protein, potassium and many other nutrients essential to the body. I come from a dairy farm and cows are not treated horribly as you would like to have people believe. They are well cared for, having balanced meals and comfortable living conditions. I suggest that you visit a dairy farm before you misinform people about the well-being of cows. As for you views on milk and dairy products, you are simply a poor ignorant, misinformed person. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Soksniffer Website: Pokerdogs Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Parts Unknown Time: 2000-06-12 13:17:26 Comments: Poor Eric Heino. He just can't accept the truth. Clearly, he's been brainwashed by the Dairy Council... or should I say "milkwashed"? You think my scenario is "rather unbelievable," Mr. Heino? Well, according to an episode of the Simpsons that was rerun last night, such a scenario is, horrifyingly, all too real! During a car chase, in which two of Springfields finest and Bart (in a ride-along) were pursuing the vicious criminal Snake, an innocent motorist was run off the road only to crash into a milk truck, which then EXPLODED on impact!! They don't just make this stuff up, Mr. Heino! Now, you're a grown man, and you can make your own decisions... if you choose to believe that milk isn't as dangerous as portrayed on the Simpsons, you're well within your rights. But please, won't *someone* think of the children? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Susan Henry Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Bullhead City, Arizona Time: 2000-06-11 23:44:08 Comments: I heard you on coast to coast and was so interested in your studies and I had to see what your web site had to say. Since I heard you I have now swore off, all dairy products and am looking forward to a healthy way of life. I have asthma, suffer from depression and always been sick almost all winter and I'm looking forward to good health this winter. Thank You for your information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Evonne Garcia Website: Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement From: Phx.AZ Time: 2000-06-11 23:13:31 Comments: Thank You for getting the word out ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: David Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: TX Time: 2000-06-11 22:14:41 Comments: I'm sorry,but this page is absolutely bogus!Eating just fruits and veggies(or any food for that matter)can be just as dangerous as eating meat and diary products.What about pesticides they use on crops? It's like this page is trying to say that if you eat meat and drink milk you will die a horrible death and if you eat only fruits and veggies that you will live a long and healthy life and that is not true at all.Like anything in life,there are risks and concerns.All this page is trying to do is meet certain peoples' agendas by using fear tactics. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Stephen Brand Website: -------------------------------------------------------- Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Birmingham Alabama Time: 2000-06-11 19:01:38 Comments: I heard you a few nights ago on the Art Bell show. I was interested in reading more since I have Type 2 Diabetes and Ulcerative Colitis. I am in my late 30's and overweight by 60 pounds. I have always consumed dairy products. Seems worth investigating the dairy product relationship to many illneses. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Larry Taylor Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Aurora, Colorado Time: 2000-06-11 11:48:26 Comments: Wow, I really had no idea...thank you for enligntening me to the truth... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jim and Wilma Schilling Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Sequim, WA Time: 2000-06-11 00:37:57 Comments: Hi Robert: Just heard you for the second time on The Art Bell Show with Mike Seigal. We know from other sources that you are right about the dangers of milk and meat. You have given the impetus to try to eliminate them from our diet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sheila Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Bend, Oregon Time: 2000-06-11 00:32:10 Comments: Wow! Do I feel enlightened. I heard you on talk radio and had to check out your website. I haven't had a drop of milk since. I was telling a friend about it today and she has a friend whos 9 yr. old daughter started menstruating. Her doctor asked her if they drank alot of milk and sure enough they did, so he told her it was the hormones in the milk. From now on we'll be drinking soy milk in this household. Thanks for the information. I'm telling all my friends about your website! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rahcole Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Canada! Time: 2000-06-10 16:53:03 Comments: This is an awesome website! It's good to see so many people going the vegan way! I've been vegan for four months now. It's really awesome to be able to eat a meal without feeling guilty about eating poor animals or abusing your own body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kuni Website: YankovicChat Referred by: Tripod From: Michigan Time: 2000-06-10 11:07:56 Comments: You are mean. You'd have to think what if the world didn't have any milk whatsoever. People would lose so much calcium intake and to get calcium whatsoever they'd be stuck to eating broccoli. Then you'd have an attack on broccolii. You are just mean!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Erich Heino Website: A tribute to those who sniff soks Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Germany/California Time: 2000-06-09 22:27:33 Comments: I oppose your decision to include Soksniffer's rather unbelievable scenario. It's much more likely that milk, and the milk industry, will save your life. Suppose you're driving down a country road, and a bunch of vegeterrorists have set up a roadblock to carjack you. Just as they're about to shoot, an out-of-control milk truck flattens them. Voila - you've been saved by milk! This is based on a true incident in Ohio in 1901. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Amy Lee Website: Amy Lee's Official Web Site Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Georgia Time: 2000-06-09 22:39:22 Comments: I heard you on Coast to Coast this week. Great program! What made me REALLY want to visit was the comment you made when asked why we drink milk..."its delicious" you said. You didn't deny the taste and yet you still made your point come across clearly. I know of the dangers milk produces in my system, yet I too know it tastes good, especially cheese and ice cream. Your stance was healthy and honest and I appreciate it! I've passed your site along to some friends. Its very informative and fun to navigate and the name is very easy to remember. Good job!!! And thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Soksniffer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: California Time: 2000-06-09 16:56:52 Comments: I thought of another way milk can be deadly: what if you're driving down the highway, minding your own business, when suddenly a massive milk truck t-bones your car and "snuffs out your flame"! Would this not be a tragic loss of life that would never have occured if milk weren't being delivered? I say yes! Or, even worse, suppose the impact doesn't kill you, but your car lands upside down in a ditch, and the milk tanker splits and the ditch begins filling with -- you guessed it -- deadly MILK! Your numb fingers struggle to unlatch your seatbelt as the ditch and your car are flooded with milk... quick, snatch one last breath before the "nourishing" liquid closes over your head... glub glub glub.... Great imagination! However, for the majority of dairy consumers the road to an early demise from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, asthma, etc. has a far slower, much more expensive, and more cruel path to the end. Over 40,000 mammals and all of them, including humans, WEAN the young from milk. There are many excellent reasons... and 59 hormones is a good start. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jim C. Reason Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Texas Time: 2000-06-09 14:05:09 Comments: I listened to you on Coast to Coast this week. It was a great program. I have had allergy problems all my life. Now I may know why. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Janet McGready Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Brigantine,New Jersey Time: 2000-06-09 04:55:41 Comments: Thank you for your information and knowledge. I really appreciate it. It always seemed odd to drink another animals stuff--now I know why!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: jonathan Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: good 'ol st.paul,big time minneapolis Time: 2000-06-09 00:56:28 Comments: read the a. silverstone piece. pretty good. but carrot juice doesn't taste good to me. how about "not milk (moustache)...soy milk!" or "...carrot juice!!" if you wish. plus i would like to see more information getting out on how milk actually leaches out nutrients and calcium. show proof on how it weakens bones. i've noticed how women who drink alot of milk still have more problems with, is it, osteoperosis? i'm not sure of spelling. leading people back to where to find legitimate info is the only way to help. people need to see it for them selves in easy to find places. just a few thoughts...thanks- jonathan(the taomutt) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: connie Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: sandiego, CA Time: 2000-06-08 20:57:20 Comments: Durrrrrrhhhhh,milk! No other country drinks that horrible stuff but Americans! Propaganda from a government that has too much money and not enough brains to do the right things with it! Heard you on coasttocoastam the other night and I find it hard to believe people still drink that flemmy dangerous cows fluid!!!!!!! You would think they would find something else to do with cows.I'll visit you again ; keep in touch. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: ronald sullivan Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: chgo area Time: 2000-06-08 19:04:30 Comments: right on this is the way to go ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: bay ridge, NY Time: 2000-06-08 19:00:53 Comments: hello. been a little while since i posted.. wondering what is worse for you, lactose or caesin. because the brilliant people that bring you some of the 'non dairy' foods a lot of times contain the milk protein. does this effect you just the same as consuming a true dairy product? also, organicly grown dary vs comercial dairy: if u let comercial dairy sit a while, what in dairy multiplies over time? can you write, or do you know of a childrens book that can explain why people should not drink milk from a cow? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Soksniffer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: California Time: 2000-06-08 18:01:43 Comments: Another case against milk: in the Limp Bizkit video for "Rearranged," the whole band was executed in a drowning chamber that filled with deadly MILK! They could have picked water or cream soda or even motor oil (although I only knew one guy who drank that), but they chose milk. That should tell you something right there.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Glenn Website: Referred by: Net Search From: British Columbia, CANADA Time: 2000-06-08 15:39:28 Comments: I treat that which occurs in nature with awe and respect I treat that, which is created by man with suspicion. Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sander Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: The Netherlands Time: 2000-06-08 11:39:29 Comments: Hey, Erich Heino, stop talking nonsense please. "The most successful society in human history (us) consumes vast amounts of dairy products.", yeah, right. The earth is dying, I wouldn't call that 'successfull'. We're like a virus. We are killing our habitat. "Vegetable eaters never accomplished anything significant", yeah right again. I can give you an enormous list, but I'll name a few famous vegetarians. Einstein, Da Vinci, Ghandi, Plato, Pythagoras, Cohen & me. Never accomplished anything significant, duh! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: RLPERRY Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Iowa Time: 2000-06-08 10:51:01 Comments: Heard you on Coast-to-Coast and got quite an education! When will the evil practice of this industry stop? Thankyou for linking the BGH and IGH1 to cancer and being brave enough to open another can of worms. The "added hormones" nightmare will continue to unfold and it is time we are aware of its far-reaching and global impact. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Amie_B Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Salt Lake City Time: 2000-06-08 09:54:12 Comments: I think it is wonderful to see so many people denouncing a very unethical practice that has become so commonly ingrained in our current culture. I applaud all that have changed their diets and lifestyles for the betterment of themselves and of animals. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Down Under Time: 2000-06-08 08:34:47 Comments: Did someone mention "Eat Right For Your (Blood) Type" by Peter D'Adamo? Oh dear..... someone needs redirection. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rachael Lopez Website: Rachaels Online Portfolio Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Melbourne, Australia Time: 2000-06-08 07:55:48 Comments: Hello there! This web site is fantasic. Finally people can see the truth. But first they have to believe it. Im a vegan, i promote the lifestyle. Your site has ALL the facts. Though a fantastic thing you should do is make a through page about exactly what you can and cant eat, there are a lot of misinformed Vegans out there! Best wishes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: ron roy Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: mansfield pa Time: 2000-06-08 02:27:42 Comments: THANKS,WE NEED MORE OF THIS INFO. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Teresa Aguiar Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: San Francisco Time: 2000-06-08 01:28:25 Comments: For years I would feel sick after eating dairy. I thought it was lactose intorerence but I would still feel sick even when taking lactase enzyme. The following day after consuming dairy I had bizzare personality changes. I would mostly feel cranky and irritable and snapping at everyone and then of course there were the physical smyptoms, inflamation of the moucosa, sinusitus, irritable bowel and fluid retention. When I explained my symptoms to doctors they suggested I was suffering from stress. I now suffer from irratable bowel and fybromyalgia and I don't dare drink any dairy for if I do I can't get out of bed. What is going on? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Bob Tyree Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Salt Lake City, Ut Time: 2000-06-07 23:29:44 Comments: I also caught you on Coast to Coast last night. Again Monsantos UGLY name comes up! They make herbicides that they won't even reveal the complete formula for (Round-Up)They Genetically alter our food supply to incorporate a perfectly good "organic " pesticide into food crops which will eventually render this safe remedy useless ( the pests will develop resistance due to it's overuse). Then they develop the Terminator seed technology in which you plant their seed and grow a crop but the resulting crop would yield sterile seed, meaning farmers buy their seed or have none.Now we talk about the dairy industry and there they are again. WAKE UP AMERICA. Europe has already rejected these practices yet over HALF of the food we eat is already genetically altered!! It must stop ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Christopher Santa Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Defiance, OH- Saranac Lake, NY Time: 2000-06-07 22:09:48 Comments: Food for thought. Answers may bring action. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Thomas F. Mullins Jr. Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: North Carolina Time: 2000-06-07 21:38:35 Comments: I heard you on Coast to Coast AM last night. Great show. I'll be doing a lot of looking into this subject. In the mean time, I'm not drinking MILK!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Erich Heino Website: German guy Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Germany, or California, whatever Time: 2000-06-07 19:45:27 Comments: I was joking last week when I suggested that the notmilkman go on Art Bell's old show. But there he was last night (June 6), and I couldn't get through. Does Robert Cohen not consider it ironic to be lecturing on the dangers of BGH between commercials for human growth hormone supplements? Also, I just read the Squirts column. This caught my attention - "Cancer fears occupy the thoughts of most American woman over the age of 30, and my wife, Lisa is no exception. Every twinge or lump becomes cause for concern, and the dairy link to breast cancer is supported by hundreds of scientific studies." This sounds reminicent of the anti-nuclear protestors of the early 80s who lived in constant fear of nuclear war, and passed this paranoid fantasy on to their children, thus reinforcing their beliefs. The most successful society in human history (us) consumes vast amounts of dairy products. Doesn't that tell you something? Vegetable eaters never accomplished anything significant (an overstatement, but you get my point). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: John Bradley Website: Gift Items Referred by: From a Friend From: Antwerp Ohio Time: 2000-06-07 19:16:49 Comments: I'm so verry glad I found your site. I've been looking for some healthy altunitives for a healther menue. The friend I got your page from was Coast to Coast. I have realised the doun falls of milk for some time. Thanks JMB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Louis Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Canada Time: 2000-06-07 18:59:40 Comments: The coast-to-coast radio program was astounding! I have tried lactose-free before, but your message instilled just the kick I needed to obstain forever. Thank you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Eve Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: CA Time: 2000-06-07 17:31:56 Comments: Keep up the great work ! It is to bad that a responsible person like yourself can not sit on the FDA instead of all these bought and paid for losers. That also goes for the Supreme court appointees. These men are there for life, controlling the lives of every US citizen making decisions that overtly destroy all of us. Soon the herd of sheep will not follow the pied piper (Gov.and media moguls)any longer. These good old boy societies need to be dismantled for the sake of mankind. Before any info is handed out to the unasumming public it is disected and purged of any distasteful or wronge doing of it's owners. Lies, coverups and constant harazment of whisle blowers makes these traders of the U.S. stand out like spots on a Lepard. How else could they lead you down the wrong path. All this info is carefully fed to unsuspecting consumers. Knowledge is power and without it, they continue to kill off thousands of us at a time. This milk issue is only one of a vastly large number of issues that plague this country and others. But you won't understand it unless you start reading the real history that's kept out of the educational system and is very hard to find in book stores. Barnes and Noble is now owned by the largest German Co./ now they controll what Americans will be able to purchase on their book shelfs. I have first hand knowlege. After WWII the U.S. brought over and paid for all those Nazi scientist to set up shop in our labs. Well they weren't fixing chicken soup! I suggest if your interested in finding out about what has been really going on in our county and who's been controlling it go read The Truth Shall Set You Free/David Icke. Try Borders Books, they are still owned by Americans and still have the books on their shelfs. Also try reading Montauk & Montauk Revisted/ Preston Nicohls and Peter Moon. Good luck people a new day is coming, thank God ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: R.Omer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Las Vegas Nv. Time: 2000-06-07 17:14:08 Comments: Hey, Mr.Cohen,heard you on "Coast to Coast" radio show and lost some sleep,but gained alot of knowledge.I had heard that dairy products were not especially good for people and have been trying to cut-back.I,m going,"cold turkey"for a couple of weeks, or maybe forever if it seems to help.I live in a gambling city,but I won,t gamble with my health(or money).I,ve E-mailed your web site to my friends. THANKS ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: NS Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Phx, Arizona Time: 2000-06-07 16:09:33 Comments: My husband heard you on the radio talk show, Mike Seagat, boy from what he told me and from what I've seen on this website A LOT of things make sense now. I'm going to try my best to change my diet for me and my family!!! For some time now, my husband and I told each other that the food we eat is what is keeping sick and unhealthy. We been having a hard time keeping in shape and breathing right. We both have asthma from day one but it seemed to be getting worse and in fact it is. Hopefully I can change that. Thank you for all this information!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: demar merrill Website: Referred by: AngelFire From: preston, idaho Time: 2000-06-07 16:03:45 Comments: heard you on the old art bell site on am radio at 3 oclock this morning and stayed awake listening for 2 hrs. i have type 2 diabetis, so was interested in what i heard. i copied the e-mail address and here i am. i have downloaded a lot of your information and it makes sense to me. i am also on a slim fast diet to lose some weight and found out that i wont be using that product any longer. i have lost 14 lbs and my glucose level is today at 79. i think i have done well, as it was 158 when we picked it up. i think the diet will help more if i get of the animal products so thats where i will be from now on.. thank you ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Lynn Bedri Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Los Angeles area Time: 2000-06-07 15:10:12 Comments: Thanks for giving the facts! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: TRACY Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: TEXAS Time: 2000-06-07 15:07:15 Comments: I heard you on the radio last night and thought I would check the site out. The section on Diabetes was extremely interesting that I plan to explore more. I am the only child , out of 3 brothers in my family who did not get Type 1 diabetes. It is a serious illness that I always thought was basically genetic in nature. My wife and I put off having children for 10 + years out of fear that they may get this disease because both of my brothers have died from complications arising from diabetes. I remember being somewhat shocked when a pediatrician tolds us of a link between dairy products and diabetes. Keep up the good work , your message is getting out and please let me know if there is anything I can do to help. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: enki Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Seattle Time: 2000-06-07 14:00:02 Comments: thanks for the great info.. I had no clue.. guess I'm done with dairy for good now.. alot of things suddenly make sense to me.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: D. Adams Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Florida,USA Time: 2000-06-07 14:06:26 Comments: Thank you for being on Coast to Coast am1290 talk show. I learned a great deal,of information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carla Russell Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Missouri Time: 2000-06-07 13:22:05 Comments: Yes, Mr. Webmaster, I'm the dairy farmer. Which is why I drink milk. I have yet to see blood, pus or feces go into the tank, and know that many of the 59 hormones are also included in many other foods - including fruits and vegetables. Our bodies need most of these hormones. There are a lot of important facts conveniently left off of this website. Here's just one - taken out of our local newspaper, The St. Joseph News-Press, May 17 issue. An article titled "Here's The Beef" (May is national Beef Month) states: "The ADA (American Dietetic Association) includes red meat, along with dairy products, in it's listing of whole foods that include the fatty acid CLA 'which may alter cancer carcinogenesis.' CLA, a natural byproduct of animal metabolism, is found in seafood and other types of meat, but it is concentrated in the highest quantities in dairy products and red meat. It's greatest benefit appears to be in inhibiting melanoma, colorectal, lung, ovarian and, especially breast cancers." I wish that I could reprint the whole article - it was very informative. A few years ago I remember reading somewhere about the 'allowable amount' of mouse hair and feces that is in peanut butter. One day I opened a can of spinach and there was a grasshopper, processed, cooked and ready to eat - I almost did! My ex-in-laws are truck gardeners - we soaked the greens, broccoli, cabbage and other vegetables in salt water to get most of the aphids and worms - but a lot get eaten. There are allergens all over the world, and mites in our eyelashes. If I was allergic to milk and dairy products I would stay away from them. But I'm not. When my mother was 27 the doctor's found cervical cancer. She had a partial hysterectomy (kept the hormone-laden ovaries), and is now 64 years old. I imagine emphasyma or lung cancer will do her in long before any other kind of cancer - due to her diet of coffee, cigarettes, and for a few years there - lots and lots of beer. She also has osteoporosis. In short - my mother does not take care of herself at all, nor does she care to. I also had ovarian cancer at 28, same operation. I'm 44 now, no signs. As for the cholesterol, I had blood work done several years ago - I don't remember the numbers, but the doctor kept telling me that he wished he had my numbers - really low "bad" stuff, and high "good". Next time I'm in town I'll get the numbers. Fats - I need, my work is extremely physically demanding, and when I play - I play really, really hard. Toxins - nothing in the world is truly organic nowadays - there are traces of acid rain everywhere - that was in one of my organic food books, hopefully I can find it. Mentioning 53 slices of bacon a day does not scare me - my body processes it just fine. My body does - maybe not yours, but I can handle it. And let me tell you about a youth on the right track. I grew up in town - not a dairy. My venture into the dairy world did not begin until I was 25 or so. My children did grow up on my small farm. We bought one little Jersey because we drank so much milk, had a farm, and love animals. So my son and daughter did drink lots of fresh, raw milk, and still do. My youngest daughter just graduated from high school - third in her class of 59. (She was neck and neck for first until she fell in love and developed 'senioritis' during third semester). She was president of her school's National Honor Society, and received a 33 on her ACT test. Also cheerleader, basketball, and Homecoming queen. When my son was in high school he was also president of the National Honor Society, and received a 29 on his ACT test (probably lower than his sisters because we didn't get the cow until he was 6, and my daughter has had it since she was weaned from my breast, at six months). My son is 6'1", probably weighs 175, is still in college, works part-time as an EMT, full time at a very large city fire department - is married with two daughters. His wife will be playing basketball for the college she attends - after two babies. My son has to mix half & half with whole milk to create the fat level and taste he desires. My daughter is 5'7", 115 pounds - flawless complection - perfect, beautiful. I'm 5'6", 115 pounds, a few small lines and gray hairs (no zits) - and very fit. These are true facts and numbers. I'm not going to praise milk alone for all these blessings. Genetics, good fortune, hard work, and just plain happiness can split the credit. I'm sorry that everybody's body does not respond the same or as well - but to blame it all on one particular food is senseless to me - and call milk a poison - that's just ridiculous. There are viruses, bacteria, fungi, feces, etc, on almost everything we put in our mouth - and if anything sterile goes in, ten to one it took chlorine or some other chemical or a heating process to get it that way. Our bodies can filter, clean and detoxify a whole lot of things - and there are may right and wrong tracks to follow in life - consuming dairy is not a wrong way. The scare tactics used on this website could be damaging, if they frighten somebody into bad nutrition practices unnecessarily. Did you know that there is a site on the internet hosted by a man who claims to have invented a time-travel machine? He says he's been back and forth in time a lot - even sells the schematics for his vehicle. This man truly believes what he says - they are facts to him. You can show him "facts" and figures until you are blue in the face, and he only sees his own, based on his own personal experiences. Sorry this is so long. I've got to get out and get some chores finished. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: mik Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: seattle wa Time: 2000-06-07 11:50:07 Comments: heard on Mike Seaget radio show--- wow keep going after those big agi-biz guys!!!! your stepping on big toes! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Marne Rogers Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Avon, NY Time: 2000-06-07 09:54:07 Comments: This is among the most important sites on the Internet! I have, as a result of exposure to the truth, given up dairy products entirely and my husband is on his way to doing the same. This is no small accomplishment for a guy who loves cheese as much as he does. Can't thank you enough for opening my eyes and mind. Marne Rogers ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: John Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Canada Time: 2000-06-07 10:06:03 Comments: Sure open my eyes ! Off of milk from now on and will try to wean myself off of beef. Thank you and coast to coast very much!! Keep up the good work and the fight. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Robb Saunders Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Winston-Salem, NC Time: 2000-06-07 09:55:38 Comments: I recieved the web page address from a New Ways distributor from Australia. The site is: www.hungerstrike.com/diary05.html#197 I could not get this address to come up at work, where I am now but I did at home and was GROSSED out! Thanks for scaring the crap out of me! robb Access all previous daily comments via: http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html All "hungerstrike" diary entries are now a part of the "squirts of NOTMILK wisdom. The link to this is: http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html The link to that specific document is: http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirt25.html#197 with the difference in filename being a change from "diary05" to "squirt25". Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: STEPHEN ANDERSON Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: TULSA Time: 2000-06-07 06:25:23 Comments: I heard of you on Coast to Coast A.M. The show was very shocking. I'm a milk and dairy user, why because it does a body good. }: Not anymore. Thank you very much for your efforts. You get my vote for the Humanitarian Award. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Daniel Website: teleport Referred by: From a Friend From: Bend Oregon Time: 2000-06-07 04:56:42 Comments: Robert was a guest on "Coast to Coast", that's how I found this website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Doug Williams Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Citrus Heights, CA Time: 2000-06-07 04:30:19 Comments: Mr. Cohen I heard you on coast to coast and enjoyed that program more than any other I've ever heard,thank you. I have been a milk drinker all my life and you scared the hell out of me. I want to quit dairy products but, I really do crave ice cold milk. But, I will try. Thank You !!! Do you trust congress to get to the bottom of this? If not what can we do? Thanks Doug Williams 7800 Copper Oak Ct. Citrus Heights, CA 95610 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Moie Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Sunny Hot Florida Time: 2000-06-07 04:23:12 Comments: I am sooo very happy to hear that I have been going in the right direction by giving up milk and milk products. Of course, this isn't the easiest task. Thanks for all the helpful information and encouragement!! *moie* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Nathaniel J. Smith Website: Nates Domain!! Referred by: From a Friend From: Minneapolis, MN Time: 2000-06-07 03:58:59 Comments: I gave up milk about August of 1999, and since then I have not had a problem with my sinus' nor have I have any form of on going sinus infections. I have also managed to loose some weight. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Fermin Website: IBL Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Coast-To-Coast Website Time: 2000-06-07 00:05:22 Comments: Nice work but you miss a major point. This, like many other approaches to diet, does not account for: 1. Body Type 2. How the food is prepared and consumed 3. Temperature 4. Time of day 5. Energy state of body There are cultures around the world that consume two to five times more dairy products than the average American with no ill effect on health or longevity. Why? Because, there is more to it than one simple food or ingredient. One good approach explaining the differences listed above is described in the book "Eat Right For Your (Blood)Type" by Peter. D'Adamo, N.D. A better and more comprehensive explanation is described in Deepak Chopra, M.D.'s book: "Perfect Health." I gave up dairy products for five years. After reading Chopra's work on Aryudedic medicine it all made sense to me. I started consuming them again in a manner appropriate for my body type. AND I FEEL MUCH BETTER. Organic milk, in small quantiites, WARMED or BOILED. NOTHING COLD. We Americans love to jump in on fads without looking for simple answers all around us. The explanation about how milk affects different human bodies was written long ago in Aryvedic texts. A moderate approach may dillute your publicity in the short term but will gain respect and help a great many persons in the long run. Better this effort than none. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carla Russell Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Missouri Time: 2000-06-06 21:30:57 Comments: Here we have a 23 year-old with 'great wisdom' who uses such creative adjectives as 'creepy', 'mental', 'glowy', and that fascinating verb 'pooping' ... please! At this very minute my clueless cat is lapping his fresh cow's milk, sitting beside him is a bowl of cat food and it's made of - eewwhhuu... fish - Studley's dining on the flesh and fluid of totally un-feline species! Oh my gawd ... my kitty-kitty probably won't see his sweet 16th birthday this July - I've been so cruel - so out-there.In my opinion Alicia Silverstone is the perfect role-model for this Notmilk mission - really makes me want to ditch dairy - NOT!!! Ummm. You are the dairy farmer, right? I submit that nothing would sway your mind from being pro-dairy... right? Not facts, not logic, not even a youth on the right track. Enjoy your 59 hormones, scores of allergens, toxins, cholesterol, fats, blood, feces, virusus, bacteria, pus and more... my cancer grows MUCH slower without it... and it is NOT a "taste to die for". You can keep my "share"... and that of the rest of my family. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Linda C. Hayes, O.D., Ph.D. Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Houston, TX Time: 2000-06-06 17:53:23 Comments: I heard about you from Coast To Coast Am. When taken off the bottle at age 1 year, I refused milk. The taste of it always made me sick. At school we always had a milk and cookie break, I had to use quite an imagination to find ways of disposing of the milk. Planter boxes or offering it to a neighbor for a cookie seemed to work well. So I am glad to see that after 50 years of refusing milk, that a web site has finally appeared honoring my choice. Plus as a lover of animals and the environment it is not nice to turn the cows into industrial products, Keep up the good work. LINDA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rhonda Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Grand Rapids, Michigan Time: 2000-06-06 11:08:24 Comments: Hi. This site helped me out a lot when I was doing a research report for one of my classes. It helped a ton. THANKS!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: spencer blackman Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Time: 2000-06-06 02:10:27 Comments: I wanted to add just a few points. 1. Avoiding dairy can be very difficult or very easy. Since the typical American diet is practically a milk menu, one cannot enjoy a milk-free diet without unplugging from this mass belief system. For the dedicated, I think a fast is a good way to help reduce one's attachment to milk. Once you realize that you don't need to eat every day, and in fact not eating for a few days feels so wonderful, it is easier to accept that you don't need milk in your diet. 2. Robert seems to be a very intelligent and dedicated man. To that extent, this site and what it has to say deserves an open-minded review. But never take anyone's words as gospel, even Robert's. Use your mind to evaluate this issue rationally. For example, doesn't the simple fact that no other animal that us consumes milk after infancy, let alone the milk of another species support the basic logic that cow's milk is not for human consumption? Only when you are totally out of touch with the workings of nature does this truth escape you. 3. Soy milk and Peanutbutter Bumpers make the best cereal EVER! Best of luck everyone! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: spencer blackman Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Time: 2000-06-06 01:38:42 Comments: Keep it up! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sarah Tarr Website: kathys herb shop Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Utah Time: 2000-06-05 22:45:28 Comments: HEY MAN! I LOVE YOU GUYS SOOOOOO SOOO MUCH. VEGANS ARE THE COOLEST AND MOST "BESTES" PEOPLE IN THE WORLD!!!!! -SARAH:) :) :) :) :) :) OH YEAH !!!!I LOVE SILVERCHAIR TOO!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kim Boykin Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Ripley, MD (just south of Washington D.C.) Time: 2000-06-05 21:18:00 Comments: I only wish to express my gratitude, although with the overwhelming number of people who do the same everyday, I don't suppose that it means much. I have always detested milk and have never understood why anyone in their right mind would want to consume it. Recently, I have broken myself of my last dairy love, cheese. A decision I will never regret. I am 15 years old. Most of my friends think that I am "full of bullsh*t." However, I wish to write an article for my school newspaper about the truth about dairy. I have found this site to be awesomely full of information and absolutely more helpful to me, both for my article and personally, than any other. Thank you again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jamie Carter Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: TN Time: 2000-06-03 23:20:42 Comments: I felt like this for a long time and have been trying to convince my family. Hopefully with this overwhelming compilation of evidence they will listen. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Traci Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-06-02 12:01:20 Comments: I grew up eating dairy products and drinking milk several times a day. As I got into my teens I started feeling sick to my stomach all the time, and it went on for a few years that way. I would be so sick that it hurt to move, I missed out on a lot of teenage things because I was at home in bed. Doctors said that everything was normal, my diet was perfectly acceptable and no one knew why I would get so sick. Then one day I came across an article about milk that started to make me think about my diet. So I cut all dairy products out of my life, and what a pain in the butt that was! I had no idea that just about everything I ate had some sort of dairy product in it. Well, just a few weeks after the change, I wasn't sick anymore. My stomach doesn't cramp up as soon as I start to eat and I've lost some wieght. Thats all it took, no more dairy, and I'm healthy again. I wish the doctors could have seen that earlier. I am not allergic to dairy products, my body just can't tolerate them. Being milk-free is the best thing I ever could have done for myself! Milk DOES NOT do a body good. I do miss dairy products, and I've tried the soy and other non-dairy products, but I just couldn't stand to eat/drink them. It just doesn't taste right. My only question now is, what happens when I get pregnant? Do you know how much milk they tell you to drink when you get pregnant? And its not just you drinking it anymore, you're passing it to a child too. I just wish more Doctors knew and understood how bad milk really is. I think we'd all be a lot healthier and happier without Dairy products. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Vegan Stuff. Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Australia Time: 2000-06-02 08:51:17 Comments: Some people seem to be unable to grasp the figures (ie; the 53 slices of Bacon figures). Here down under we have "Lactose Free" milk, which contains LACTOSE. That's the Dairy Industry for you..... feeding us both CowMilk and BullSh!t. Then there's the "Skim Milk"..... ingredients listed as "Milk, Whole Milk, Skim Milk". Yeah, good one. There's no greater sucker than a milk drinker. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Marcia Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Pennsylvania Time: 2000-06-01 17:46:29 Comments: Robert.... First, I want to say that I enjoy your page very much, and I believe you are doing a public service by providing this research to people who wish to learn. It is unfortunate that there are people who are so threatened by the free expression of ideas and information that they feel they must attack your right to exist and present the information as you see it. As you have stated, each person is free to make their own choices, you are just presenting the information. I appreciate you. Also, what happened to the Daily Diary ? I miss reading it. Thank you. Marcia. Robert ended his hungerstrike on Monay, the 29th of May... on day 205. All diary entries are now a part of the "Squirts" of NOTMILK wisdom at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html and he is now writing more of the daily tidbits. His original columns are posted at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html Regards... Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Erich Heino, yet again, and one last time Website: non-real German guy Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: let's just say Germany Time: 2000-05-31 14:56:28 Comments: Here's a list of the makeup of milk, taken from some website somewhere: 87.3% water (range of 85.5% - 88.7%) 3.9 % milkfat (range of 2.4% - 5.5%) 8.8% solids-not-fat (range of 7.9 - 10.0%): protein 3.25% (3/4 casein) lactose 4.6% minerals 0.65% - Ca, P, citrate, Mg, K, Na, Zn, Cl, Fe, Cu, sulfate, bicarbonate, many others acids 0.18% - citrate, formate, acetate, lactate, oxalate enzymes - peroxidase, catalase, phosphatase, lipase gases - oxygen, nitrogen vitamins - A, C, D, thiamine, riboflavin, others Looks pretty acceptable to me. Casein's just a protein with many uses, including adhesive. Now, let me indulge in NotMilkMan-style scare tactics. Water!!! Water is used for terrible things! Did you know that water is used to FLUSH TOILETS!!!! Do you want to drink toilet-flushing fluid!?!?!?!??? DON'T DRINK WATER!!! Did you know that the Fluid Academy of Teheran has recommended against drinking water?!??? Water is used as a solvent for terrible things like casein! Why would you drink this evil fluid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Abi Herron Website: Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement From: south england Time: 2000-05-31 14:46:56 Comments: i think your page is great! i was vegetarian for about 19 years and felt great but since going vegan the change has been amazing. well i didnt do it for me i did it for the animals but i have lost weight, less PMS and my nails have grown really long and strong as i eat lots of calcium rich veggies. even if exculeding dairy/milk from my diet was harmful for me i would as i love animals but its so good not to drink it and i am glad others have seen the light....besides carob is nicer than chocolate anyday. and at easter i got non dairy easter eggs so what more could i ask for!!! if anyone wants some good recipies then email me keep up the great work, Miss Herron ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Avrum Bree Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: The East Time: 2000-05-31 08:32:43 Comments: Churchill said, "A fanatic is someone who won't stop talking, and won't change the subject." It's amusing how people will find the most obscure topics to become fanatical about. I think that the logic expressed below totally disarms your arguments. Take the cholesterol of 53 slices of bacon, divide it into the millions of glasses of milk consumed daily, and you've got a negligible amount of cholesterol. You've also totally ignored the undesputable scientific fact that milk is healthy for you. Your inability to properly understand the what is said suggests the need for MORE, not less repetition. You consider the health of 267 million Americans to be an "obscure" topic? Guess what, you are in the same leaking boat as those who promote milk, dairy, MSG, aspartame, and a number of other unhealthy substances. Perhaps a reading problem, on unaccountable one? Nobody said that a million glasses of milk had the cholesterol of 53 slices of bacon. THREE GLASSES OF WHOLE MILK A DAY have that cholesterol equivalent of 53 slices of bacon... which adds up to the equivalent of over 19,000 slices of bacon a year. Statistics show the average American consumes MORE than three glasses of milk a day (or the equivalent in dairy). GOT DOC? Ask him if your body needs that cholesterol from dairy. If he says yes... then ask if it is OK to switch from milk to 53 slices of bacon each day and watch his reaction. From "The East"? East of what? By the way... you may think you are "invisible" by providing a perhaps fake name, and no other information. Suffice it to say that you are using @home, and you are from the Redwood City, CA area. You've also totally ignored the undesputable scientific fact that milk is healthy for you. Really? What pro-dairy resource or dairy funded study would you like to quote? Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Calla Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Toronto, Canada Time: 2000-05-30 21:39:48 Comments: I have been a vegetarian for 20 years (i'm 35) but have just given up milk and eggs about 8 weeks ago. What a difference!!! I feel wonderful! After reading the material on your site, it's no wonder. I knew milk was not great, but I had no idea just how bad it really is. Unfortunately my 6 year old son LOVES milk and hates soy milk no matter how I try to disguise it. I will try your rice/coconut milk recipe on him this weekend. In any event, I just wanted to say thanks for the site. I have emailed links to friends with Crohn's and diabetes and hope they will read it and not think "oh man another vegan email from Calla the animal loving weirdo". :) Keep up the good work!!!! You might remind them that HUMANS are animals, too! :-) Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mike Website: Plastic Thoughts Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Winnipeg Time: 2000-05-30 09:37:31 Comments: You say that milk contains the fat of 53 slices of bacon. Since roughly 23 million slices of bacon are consumed in the US daily, this is a negligible number. I'll withhold judgement until you get your NOTBACON site up and running. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Mike, There are 270 million Americans. If your number is true, then the average American eats about one slice of bacon every 11.74 days. On the other hand, in the time it takes for the average American to eat just one slice of bacon, that same individual ingests (from milk and dairy products) the same cholesterol contained in 622 slices of bacon! Regards, The NOTMILKMAN No... "we" did NOT say that "milk" contains the fat of 53 slices of bacon. What we "say" only reports the facts. We report that THREE GLASSES OF WHOLE MILK A DAY, the "recommended" daily amount, contains the CHOLESTEROL equivalent of 53 slices of bacon. That amounts to the cholesterol equivalent of 19,345 slices of bacon a year that add up to the equivalent of 1 million slices by the early fifties. IF you, or anyone, consumes the American AVERAGE daily amount of dairy (well over three glasses of milk a day) ... well... you take it from there, Mike. What you do with the information we present... which is backed by a wide variety of credible resources, is YOUR problem. Withhold "judgement" as you will ... AT YOUR OWN RISK! Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Australia Time: 2000-05-29 10:46:11 Comments: I know I'm stooping to a personal attack, but I don't care...... If you visit Erich Heino's Web Page, at http://www.geocities.com/eheino99/ you may notice something very different to his NotMilk Guestbook posts....... the English/Spelling, perhaps? What's going on? Anyway, about 8 years ago I used to travel on the morning and evening Train to and from College (about 45 minutes journey). The whole time I would be doubled up in pain, and there were many days I wanted to kill myself to end the pain (the few times I was 100% intent on committing suicide I was so incapacitated I couldn't do it). Eventually, I gave up Dairy products (for ethical/moral reasons) and those pains disappeared..... all because I dropped Dairy products. Milk sure as hell wasn't doing my body any good. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Erich Heino Website: Fictional German guy Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Germany, apparently Time: 2000-05-28 04:15:01 Comments: OK, it's Heino yet again. I notice that at least one other person in this world, Penny, has a clue. Hurray! Anyway, I just noticed something. While listening to the Coast to Coast show (Art Bell's thing), I heard single-issue obsessives with large quasi-scientific vocabularies spouting data on various 'studies' which proved their points (usually with regards to alien visitation or inter-breeding with humans). Substitute 'anti-milk' for 'alien DNA', and I think you'd fit right in. Call them up, they'll probably slot you in between the hollow-earthers, and the bigfoot-is-a-time-traveller groups. Also, as for your claim that 'milk does NOT do the body any good', try this. Lock yourself in a room with no food, and lock one of your acolytes in another room with only unlimited milk. Who will survive longer? The only answer is: him, not you. Therefore, milk does do the body some good. Note: if you claim that you will survive on zero calories longer than someone on a just-milk diet, I suspect that even Art Bell would hesitate to interview you. He has his standards. It is obvious you have not read anything on the WEB sites. To make it easier for you and your friend Penny your beverage of choice... MILK, has: * 59 hormones -- Worst? Perhaps the powerful IGF-1 growth hormone (think fast growing cancers) * Scores of allergens -- Worst? Probably casein (80% of the protein) Think glue! (powerful histamine or mucus maker) * blood -- Even under the best of conditions * feces -- Even under the best of conditions * fat -- Of the calories in whole milk 49% come from fat (35% for 2% milk) * cholesterol -- 3 glasses a day = the equivalent of 53 slices of bacon * herbicides -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk) * pesticides -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk) * dioxins -- From the feed and water (they become concentrated in the milk) * viruses -- (most likely many kinds of them) * up to 20,000,000 live bacteria per liter (FDA max limit) * up to 750,000,000 somatic (PUS) cells per liter (FDA max limit) * up to 52 different antibiotics (they only test for a few) * Perhaps some TB (bovine mycobacterium paratuberculosis, the bacterium linked to Johne's disease in cows and Crohn's disease in humans) * Perhaps some Prions (a crystal that acts like a virus - think mad cow disease, with a 5-30 years "incubation" for something that cannot be destroyed by 900 degree Celsius heat) Sixty Percent of America's dairy cows have leukemia virus. 87% of milk is WATER (mother natures truly perfect drink). The milk of each of the over 40,000 mammals on earth is formulated specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and immunoglobulins. In cow's milk the protein lactalbumin is considered a key factor in diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving infant children cows milk). Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used their MUST be an equal quantity of magnesium (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones). Milk has little magnesium. 80% of the protein in milk is casein. Milk can be considered as a "liquid meat", which, when added to all the OTHER protein in an average diet, may actually leach calcium from the bones. Countries with the highest intake of milk and dairy have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Milk moustaches = good bones are a milk industry 100% lie. Mother-natures perfect milk-delivery system is directly from teet to mouth. When anything is exposed to air the oxygen in it CHANGES things. Metals oxidize (rust). Freshly sliced apples or pears turn brown. Paper does a slow burn. Milk not consumed via mother natures intended delivery system is automatically different. There is no need in human nutrition for cow's milk. Dr. Spock (the famous baby doctor whose books have been outsold only by the bible) said it several years ago. Nor is the consumption of milk medically sound or desirable. Considering that milk and dairy plays a significant role in obesity, heart disease, cancer, asthma, diabetes, eczema, irritable bowel syndrome, leukemia, poor digestion, lactose intolerance (according to WHO 90% of world blacks are lactose intolerant), gas, bloating, behavioral problems, osteoporosis, and more. Considering that cow's milk is a fluid from diseased animals that impacts heavily on human health ... it should NOT be considered a "taste to die for". Guess what... neither YOU nor your friend Penny have even a CLUE to the truth. As to your silly remark about two people in different rooms... the milk and dairy industry SPRANG from the old European tradition of collecting UNCONSUMED milk (by the calf, of course) from the old 1-4 quart a day cow (now up to 55 quarts a day) and quickly making it into either butter, or hard cheese, as a HIGH FAT EMERGENCY FOOD SUPPLY FOR HARD TIMES! Most of the first wave of Pilgrims died the first winter... because they were forced to sell MOST of their butter to buy passage for the trip to American. Of course the fellow consuming milk will survive... because it is EIGHTY SEVEN PERCENT WATER... mother natures truly perfect drink. How much do you pay for a gallon of tap water? How much do you pay for a gallon of milk? That 13 percent of substance that is 50% of fat in calories in saturated fats, provides the equivalent cholesterol of 53 slices of bacon (per three glasses of milk), and all those other "goodies"... is VERY EXPENSIVE POLLUTION! I hope that the IGF-1 cancer fuel does not do YOU in before YOUR time... like it has me. Bon appetite, Erich Heino Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Australia Time: 2000-05-27 10:03:02 Comments: Erich Heino wrote "Also, you ever notice that the most pill-popping, vitamin-gulping, supplement-addicted people around are the vegetarians?" Well, let's see...... first, as already asked, are there any studies/figures that show this? Secondly, out of myself and my non-vegan family and friends, I am the one who is LEAST likely to take pills/supplements/drugs of any sort. But then Erich did say 'vegetarians', not 'vegans'....... And perhaps he ignores the fact that milk is so drug-laden?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Penny Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: New Jersey Time: 2000-05-26 21:22:54 Comments: I think that this page is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Your scientific stuides prove nothing; they are completely tailored to prove your point, and even at that the results are questionable. I fail to see how a rat becoming hyper and then calming down after drinking milk shows a connection between drinking milk and ADD. And if this "scientist" wins the Noble Peace Prize, I will be writing a very strongly worded letter to the committe who selects the winners. The only thing that your page has convinced me of it that you can't believe anything that is on the internet, because any random crackpot can put lies everywhere. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Penny, The studies cited on my website are not "my" studies. Thousands of unbiased studies published in respected scientific peer-reviewed journals converge upon one conclusion: Milk does NOT do the body any good. I agree with you about rat studies. Animal studies are only good for one thing. They provide research funds for scientists to torture animals, and perpetrate a system that ultimately betrays humans. We cannot extrapolate rat research to human physiology, and each animal study is a non-reliable fraud. However, the ADD study was performed on humans. A morphine-type hormone in milk (casomorphin) has been associated with attention deficit disorder. When milk is removed from their diets, children with autism and attention deficit disorder often improve. This therapy is a successful alternative to ritalin treatment. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Erich Heino Website: EHEINO Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Germany Time: 2000-05-25 19:46:37 Comments: Wow. When you dedicate your life to a single cause, you really go all out. Hmmm. Basketball superiority based on milk drinking or not. Bizarre. Absolutely bizarre. Also, invoking the name of Ralph Nader doesn't enhance your credibility any more than cozying up to the new-age crowd ("milk is like ... so bad for your chakras, man"). How about getting the support of the Flat Earth Society? Also, I enjoyed Scott Goldberg's logic - his friends won't agree to stop drinking milk, so maybe he's hanging around with the wrong friends. That's the kind of person who's attracted to whacky causes like your anti-milk crusade. Also, you ever notice that the most pill-popping, vitamin-gulping, supplement-addicted people around are the vegetarians? Hint: if you can't get all the nutrients you need from your daily diet (juicing 70 pounds of fresh vegetables everyday isn't normal), then start eating some meat, the way nature intended. Dear Erich, I was not aware that "most pill-popping, vitamin-gulping, supplement-addicted people around are the vegetarians," as you claim. Do you have a reference for that statement? Vitaminbusiness.com website reveals: "It's estimated that nearly 50 percent of Americans use vitamin supplements every day." It is clear that those eating the Standard American Diet (the S.A.D. diet) need supplements! Meat eaters and Vegans have one thing in common. All humans need to consume essential amino acids, vitamins, and enzymes. Eating fresh fruits and vegetables remains the most efficient way of providing the body with its nutritional needs. Why not take the VEGPLEDGE and discover great health: http://www.vegpledge.com Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Nicholas Allen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Guernsey, Channel Islands Time: 2000-05-24 18:01:31 Comments: Hi Robert, I have been following your pages for quite some time now. I really admire the work you do and how persistent you are. It seems your message is finally making it big here in the UK. The Daily Mail (a very well respected and widely read newspaper) published a 6 page report (over a three day period)on the connection of cancer with the consumption of milk. A scientist called Jane Plant had cancer reoccur five times and was told she had only a few months to live. Being a scientist she couldn't accept that the rate in Japan and China was about 1 in 10,000 and in the UK 1 in 12. Also when Chineese people emigrated to the UK they too had similarly high rates as UK people do. This also seemed strange because a nuclear bomb was dropped on Hiroshima so if anything it would be expected that the rates of cancer would be higher in these areas. The report blames dairy products as the culprit and explains about IGF-1 and other hormones in milk that promote the division of cells and the growth of tumors. It's a very intersting read and she is bring a book out on 8th of June called "Your life in your hands". I think you should get in touch with her. The two of you would be expremely convincing and it would be great if you were to do radio/TV appearances together. You really should do this as her belief is the same as yours. Thanks again for the excellent info. Been dairy free for 3 years and fell great! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Steve Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Wilmington, NC Time: 2000-05-24 15:25:05 Comments: Last year about 40,000 people in the US died from automobile accidents. Were they drinking milk at the time? I'll bet you a lot of them drank milk in the 24 hours preceding the accident. Be sure to post this on your website! DRINKING MILK CAUSES AUTO ACCIDENTS!! I'll also be willing to wager that drinking 6 times your body mass of milk each day will be linked to Cancer! - just ask those poor rats that are subjected to such tests... What's next? Nestle's Quik causes heart attacks???? PLEASE find something more constructive to do than tell us that something humans have used for thousands of years (more than that if you count human milk) is evil and will kill us. Give me some REAL milk mortality stats and maybe I'll listen! NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Steve, Last year 2,400,000 Americans died from heart disease. Almost every scientific agency in America and almost every physician recognizes that saturated animal fat and cholesterol are contributing factors in the etiology of heart disease. The average American consumes 5 ounces of meat each day, and 29.2 ounces of milk and dairy products. In his/her dairy consumption, the average American will consume every day the equivalent cholesterol contained in 53 slices of bacon. After 52 years, the average American will have consumed from dairy the same cholesterol contained in one-million slices of bacon. Doctors have no clue to the cause, prevention, and cure for heart disease. Please join me and Ralph Nadar in three weeks at our Washington, DC biotechnology conference. We have a message for you. Drinking milk is "Unsafe At Any Speed!" Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Scott Goldberg Website: Knicks Paradise City Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Long Island, NY Time: 2000-05-24 12:27:59 Comments: Hey Robert, great site. I tried to get my friends to stop drinking milk, but they just wont listen. Maybe I'm hanging around the wrong friends? Anyway, I have been a vegeterian for quite some time and I haven't drank milk for a few months and I feel GREAT! Thanks to you and your book, I can get to the goal I want in weight-lifting and I can accomplish anything! P.S. Write back! GO KNICKS! NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Scott, The Knicks might have met their match in those "hicks" from Indiana. The Pacers may have the advantage because Reggie Miller and Rik Smits do not pose for milk mustache ads. On the other hand, Patrick Ewing did. Indiana outhustled and outplayed the Knicks in game one of their playoff round. The New York team looked sluggish. Casein, a milk protein will do that to you. Please assist our team! When the series returns to New York, send free pizza's to the Indiana Pacers hotel! We can still win this thing. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Texas Time: 2000-05-22 19:31:06 Comments: I've seen it all now......You losers will do anything for press. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Christine Hanusi Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Hamilton, NJ Time: 2000-05-21 12:26:11 Comments: I viewed part of a segment on this topic on cable tv early Sunday morning, 5-21-00. I've been toying with trying to avoid eating meat for years but avoiding milk was never in the equation until recently. Being raised on all kinds of milk and meat products, it is difficult to virtually change everything you know about preparing and eating food. In addition, the alternatives in food stores are limiting. With most of our busy lifestyles, a change of this magnitude would require not only educating oneself on altervative foods and their preparation, but going from store to store trying to find theses alternatives. I'm not saying I won't attempt it, but it seems like alot of work. And, even if I change what occupies my household, every time I go to a restaurant, party, or picnic, I'd have to avoid most of the menu. My life would turn into "I can't have that". I will try it though. Maybe I'll feel so much better that it will be worth the trouble. I've tried to spread the word to family memebers who have children, and have met with resistance. I fear I am gaining the reputation of a overzealeous nutcase. I can understand why they feel this way. People are overwhelmed with conflicting information regarding diet - eat carbs/don't eat carbs, eat meat/don't eat meat, drink milk/don't drink milk. It seems we have our work cut out for us as the rest of the country shares in the cynicism of my friends and family. Today I will purchase my first carton of soymilk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rich. Hunter Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Connecticut Time: 2000-05-20 09:48:51 Comments: I learned of this site by watching a guest on Mary Mucci's MSGmetro's METRO HOLISTIC show on Saturday a.m., on May 20, 2000. Thankk you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Nolalee Schenk Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Nevada USA Time: 2000-05-20 02:25:13 Comments: Milk should be banned!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Frank Murphy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Glasgow, Scotland Time: 2000-05-16 11:32:18 Comments: I've read this, and other linked sites, and it makes me sad, because I'm sure the mucoids in milk are what gives me my blocked up nose and deep chesty coughs when I get a cold, but I am hopelesly devoted to milk. Maybe it's a childhood thing, but I love nothing better than to come home after a long day, and grab a well-cold carton of skimmed milk, and polish the lot off. I couldn't, or wouldn't, like to imagine a world where I couldn't drink milk. Irn-bru and coke and all that jazz is OK, but fruit juice gives me heartburn, and I just can't bring myself to try substitute milk yet. Water is just not the same, even although Glasgow water from Loch Katrine is some of the best in the world. I am resigned to dealing with my nose and chest as a side-effect of drinking milk, just as I accept the bruises and cuts as a side-effect of playing rugby, and a splitting head and furry tongue as a side-effect of a night on the booze. I think we should tax meat, to make it a special treat, and so lower the amount, and raise the quality, of the amount eaten, and also, use the tax to raise living standards of the animals that are still bred for it. But, I think that is more of aproblem than dairy products, and, until everyone is better- educated in diet, we need to put problems with milk on a burner further back, and, although you'll probably disagree, actively promote it as a source of calcium and iron, which is more important for women, but do so in association with promotion of better living standards for the livestock. I think you have to look for better standards first, and get people used to thinking about the animals welfare, before leading them towards the end goal. Best of luck with educating the widert world, but I hope you don't hold it against me if I hope you're not too succesful with milk in my lifetime. I honestly would miss my carton greatly. Should you become as unfortunate as I and get cancer please keep in mind that my cancer grows 4.5 times slower with no more IGF-1 from cow's milk and dairy in my system. Should the abundance of saturated fats and cholesterol lead to heart disease... sorry... no easy salvation from that one. I still miss the acquired taste of milk and dairy... but it is no longer a "taste to die for". Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Erich Heino Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Germany Time: 2000-05-15 20:44:00 Comments: In reference to the message referencedin Record 1676 - I suspect that the reason humans are living such long healthy lives is precisely because we're smart enough to drink milk throughout our entire lives. Conversely, perhaps the cause of most diseases is living in houses and wearing clothes. Note that simply fixating on an idea (ie. milk is bad because I have arbitrarily decided that it must be) does not make it true. Furthermore, having the support of fringe vegans, crystal healers, spirit channelers, and all manner of refugees from the 1960s doesn't make your ideas seem more credible. Hey - did the residents of ancient Atlantis drink milk? Dear Erich, I do not imagine that the residents of Atlantis domesticated dolphins and whales so that they might drink their body fluids. What is a fringe vegan? Are you a fringe lamb chop eater? Does brain food for you consist of animal brains? In colonial times, the average American did not reach the half-century mark. As a matter of fact, an American child born in 1900 was expected to live for only 47.3 years (World Almanac, year 2000 edition). The single greatest stride in longevity resulted from improvements in sanitation and safe water supplies. In the year 2000, nations not possessing these two resources experienced high mortality rates. By 1920, the average American's lifespan jumped 14 pecent (54.1 years). By 1940, the expected lifespan jumped another sixteen percent (62.9 years). The average expected lifespan of a child born in 1960 jumped another eleven percent (69.7 years). By the mid 1980's, the 75 year lifespan was reached, and that number has remained relatively unchanged. Has mankind reached a limit? I say NOT. During the Renaissance, mankind was "plagued" by high infant mortality rates. Cows produced only one-quart of milk per day, and lack of refrigeration meant that dairy consumption was very low. Although infant mortality rates were high, history suggests that people lived to ripe old ages. Leonardo DaVinci died when he was 67. Cervantes died at 69. Copernicus, 70. Galileo, 78. Donatello died when he was 80, and Bellini lived until age 86. Michaelangelo died when he was 89, and Titan lived until age 99. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rita Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-05-15 17:47:27 Comments: I like the slogan... Got milk? Get Pus. how gross... im never touching milk again. I cant stand to think that im drinking a cold glass of dead white blood cells held together with a dash of glue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Erich Heino Website: NA Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Germany, originally Time: 2000-05-14 22:41:23 Comments: If drinking the milk of other mammals is unnatural, and unnatural conditions are inherently bad, why is Dr. NotMilkMan living in a house, wearing clothes, drinking something other than surface water? Shouldn't he be eating raw, uncooked food, huddling naked in a cave, and avoiding all trappings of modern society? Or is cow's milk the only thing wrong with the entire world? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Erich, Raw uncooked foods? What's wrong with that? Many people have returned to a raw food diet and enjoy better health as a result. I love the comforts of home. Man has created tools and in doing so, has tamed his environment. We have gained much wisdom throughout the millennia. Our ancestors knew the effects of food/fuel on our bodies. Twenty-first century man has become so sophisticated, that such wisdom is no longer a part of our psyche. Why avoid the "trappings?" Our destiny is to utilize our natural resources and enjoy heaven on earth. Part of that destiny is to live over 100 years. By giving up just one food group, man will discover and enjoy his previously unattainable "Fountain of Youth." Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carla Russell Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Missouri Time: 2000-05-14 22:29:39 Comments: Hi Robert! Regarding milk and zits - I drink a lot of milk - eat all kinds of cheeses, butter, whipped cream on everything sweet - I'm seriously addicted to Blue Bunny Ice Cream drumsticks (one or two every day). And I have no zits - can't find one single pimple. What's up with that? If I quit dairy will my face break-out with pus-filled zits? Will I gain weight (I could use a few extra pounds)? Unfortunately, all those hormones didn't give me a Playboy Bunny body, but mine is slim and healthy. All these horrible things that are supposed to happen to people when they drink bovine body fluid just are not happening to me - am I a 'freak' of nature? If so - I'm a happy one - 'pus-tache', raging hormones and all! NOTMILKMAN'S RESPONSE: Dear Carla, Oh, to be young again! You, Carla, are no teenager! Your daughter goes to high school with others her age who have RHS (raging hormone syndrome). For teens, it's a blemish on their exteriors. For you, it's your insides that concern me. You are a milk drinking, milk promoting dairywoman, and you've visited before...and I like your sense of humor. By age 52 the average American will have consumed from milk and dairy, the equivalent cholesterol contained in 1,000,000 slices of bacon. Heart disease is America's number one killer, and I know you have a good spiritual heart, Carla, but your arteries should concern the two of us. Ease up on those dangerous animal fats, cholesterol, and powerful growth hormones. Your exterior might resemble a shiny new Ferrari, but your insides may very well be a rotting Corvair -- "Unsafe at any Speed." Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: SHEREE BOTTE Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: EDISON NEW JERSEY Time: 2000-05-14 14:45:34 Comments: SAW YOU ON TV AND WANTED MORE INFO. WISH YOU WERE SPREADING THIS MESSAGE OUT TO A GREATER POPULATION. AFTER ALL LOOK HOW THE DAIRY INDUSTRY SPREADS ITS MESSAGE. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Sheree, That's where you come in! The dairy industry markets their myths with $500 million dollars of their money and hundreds of millions of dollars of goverment subsidies. We have the INTERNET. Please help spread the message. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: M. D. Ballard Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Staten Island, New York Time: 2000-05-14 08:46:30 Comments: I saw you on a cable station here in Staten Island on Sat. 5/13/00. I'm always happy to see people speaking Truth to Power! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Katrina Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Tennessee Time: 2000-05-13 15:13:19 Comments: I just wanted to say I love your site! Whenever I feel like jumping off the wagon, I come to your site, and remind myself why I am going vegan! I used to be such a cheese junkie. I thougth giving up dairy would be extremely hard. You know what? I hardly miss it at all. When you don't smoother your food with cheese and cream sauces, you actually get to taste the other food. My husband is in the military, and is going vegan with me. His PT scores have actually gone up, and he says he feels much better. (Although he alwasy has been pretty healthy). You know, it really strikes me as funny...I've been studing herbology and other natural remedies for about 5 years now, and eveything that I've come across says to cut back on animal products (especially dairy). Doesn't it occur to anyone that we are a sick nation? Diseases are contantly on the rise. Will everyone need to have a deadly or painfull disease before we look at our living and eating habits? I really applaud the work you are doing, Robert. Good luck with your efforts! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Pat Spir Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Ocala Florida Time: 2000-05-13 11:49:43 Comments: Due to milk allergy, have avoided milk for years, forget to check fo it as ingredients in packaged foods. Look at others with horrible skin, and wonder why they have zits, and I don't. Great info, keep up the good work. I sent info from the article in Spread The Word to everyone on our email list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Grant Richmann Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Minesota Time: 2000-05-10 21:18:21 Comments: kewl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carmen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: world citizen Time: 2000-05-10 15:18:26 Comments: Bought & paid for? NO MORE. It is time we start supporting a candidate that will ensure that the 80% of americans who want our food labeled, get it. The father of labeling & public right's to know, is RALPH NADER. He is running real & strong. Nader has already earned 5% of the VOTING population's vote, so he is not last in the polls. Only the Minority of americans vote, since they are fed up with the candidates, and lack of democracy. The Nonvoting Majority will show for this one, and he could easily WIN. (Me included, So now i have to hurry to register to vote.) I will cast my ballot for someone i am for, and not for the "lesser of two evils" which is how i am told, most people have been voting. Abraham Lincoln, won with 39% of the votes in a four way split. We have a four way split now. This is our chance to get the democracy back. As Jim Hightower says, This guy has done more for the public in his lifetime than all the candidates put together. Robert you & him attend many meetings together. I think it is time to start getting the word out about his campaign. He is the only guy that will put a brake on the GE thing. By the way we can all sleep better at night knowing the GE salmon that will be on American's plates, not mine, next year will be sterile.Nader campaing needs volunteers. Thanks. www.votenader.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: John McDaniel Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Maine, USA Time: 2000-05-09 17:27:26 Comments: I heard about your site on the Howie Carr show. I drink some milk because I like the test of it and I don't want to lose the ability to digest it. I don't drink it very often though because it does seem a bit odd that we are adult mamals and we are drinking the milk of another species. I ruined my father's dinner once by mentioning to him that it would be less strange for us to drink gorilla milk. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Continue thinking, John. Why stop at gorilla? How about a nice cold glass of human breast milk with your cookies? Instinctively, you are aware that milk contains substances that should not be in your body. From aardvark to zebra, drinking milk from any species of animal sounds disgusting, but humans subordinate their innate wisdom to brainwashing ads (billions of dollars of milk marketing over the past 75 years). Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Tom Langan Website: Referred by: Lycos From: Wisconsin Time: 2000-05-06 21:21:50 Comments: Being a dairy producer, I find your site quite interesting. I would like to comment on a couple of things. First of all, I can virtually garantee that there are next to NO antibiotics in the milk. We do occasionally find it necessary to treat a cow with antibiotics to help her get over a case of mastitis. We only do this on our family farm after first trying to treat the case with probiotics - all natural remedies. When we do use antibiotics, we must send a sample of milk in to our processor to have it tested before we resume milking her with the rest of the herd. Each farm's milk is sampled when the hauler picks it up. Also, each load of milk (from several producers) is tested for antibiotics before the truck is unloaded. If the load is tested positive, then each farm's milk is tested to determine where it originated. The entire load of milk is then discarded and the offending producer is then billed for the entire load which can amount to several thousand dollars. This is a very good incentive for us as producers to keep antibiotics out of the milk we ship. Next, the point you raise about our children reaching sexual maturity earlier cannot be blamed on hormones in the milk. Children have been reachind sexual maturity earlier and earlier for the past 150 years - long before rBST came along. This is simply due to better overall nutrition, plain and simple. Believe me, I hope your attempts to eliminate rBST are successfull! I don't use it myself just because I believe it will only add to the dairy surplus and lower my milk price. Some food for thought.... More and more dairy farmers are supporting Mr. Cohen. He says, "I will be appearing in Washington with (hopefully) 1000 dairy farmers, Pete Harden, Ralph Nader, etc. on June 17th. Each truck driver only tests for the presence of four antibiotics, while many dozens more are in use. Consumers Union and the New York Times tested independently selected milk samples and found the presence of 52 different antibiotics in the milk." Mr. Cohen can be contacted via Email or call him at 1-201-871-5871 Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Glenn Kr Hansen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: University of Trondheim, Norway Time: 2000-05-06 14:02:21 Comments: Hi! I live in the country that drinks most milk in the whole world pr sitisen. It can even be though to be a nomilk-person. If u say that milk is bad for u, others get angry at u for saying so. It realy hurts their feelings or something. It is sick how the milkindustry is working. It`s good to have people like u to put some light on things. Thank u! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: June Bird Website: ANIMAL LIBERATION Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Sydney, Australia Time: 2000-05-06 01:14:15 Comments: Please come along to http://www.animal-lib.org.au/interviews and see what some rich, famous, talented and incredibly good looking people have to say about milk and meat consumption!...June Bird...xxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: george Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Palo Alto, CA Time: 2000-05-05 23:06:02 Comments: Great book, a real page turner. I'm doing a speech for my speech class @ SJSU and it's called: Milk, Stop the Horror. I haven't had liquid milk in years, and I am pretty much down to ice cream and cheese on occasions - I just never felt good after eating eating most milk products so i just fell out of the habit. But until reading your book, I never really knew just HOW AWFUL milk stuff is for people. The hardest thing to do will be to find *yummy* cheese substitues :^) Thank you SO much for your hard work and dedication. Please take care of yourself so you can continue to sound the battle cry! -george ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sally Ullstrup Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Arizona Time: 2000-05-04 19:41:30 Comments: I stopped drinking milk three years ago after being a two-gallon-of-skim-a-week-aholic. i have never looked back. I am only more encouraged when reading info on websites such as yours. Thank you for all your hard work and efforts made to help other ignorant people understand that we are not meant to suck juices out of a cow's teet. MILK SU_KS!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: ' Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-05-03 22:04:21 Comments: Wow you do tell alot of facts about milk , but you only seem to tell enough about milk to scare the hell out of somone.When you say that all these things that are in milk such as all 59 hormons, bactera ,blood,pus,and pest and herbicides,ect. you dont give any figures or how much of each item is in a gallon of prossed milk.You can say that these items are in milk and i guess you cant be called a lier.But you wouldnt it sound better if you would say how much or what the % of each one of these things are in milk, what effects they can have on you , and how much dairy products you would have to consume in a days time for it even to have any effect on you?Isn't igf-1 a normal component in in blood and other body fluids?Isn't the amount of igf-1 in 1.5 litres of milk less than 0.1% of the amount our body produces each day?It would sound so much beter if you would give a few more facts and actual test results rather than saying ,yes these things are in milk. But my question is , is there realy enough of them in milk to hurt you? Sigh! When are you pro-milk industry plants going to get the guts to be responsible for your words? Most of your ilk provide no means for communications... but you didn't even provide a fake name! "how much of each item is in a gallon of prossed milk" When a toxins or poison do CUMULATIVE damage... how much from nasty stuff like arsenic or cyanide is "too much"? Read the numbers on obesity, heart disease, cancer, osteoporosis, diabetes, asthma, behavioral problems and more... and answer your own questions. Especially so, when you take into account that the USDA food pyramid suggests that 8% or less of daily intake be from cow's milk and dairy... AND OTHER FATTY FOODS, and statistically Americans consume almost 40% of their diets in only cow's milk, dairy, and its derivatives. "Isn't igf-1 a normal component in in blood" Of course. But mother nature is smart (and kind) enough to STOP PRODUCTION of it when our needs have been fulfilled. Any additional amount simply adds fuel to a flickering cancer fire... which makes IGF-1 a KEY FACTOR in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate, lung and colon cancers! As to your "is there realy enough of them in milk to hurt you?" I suggest that our tragic health statistics on the obese and sick shout "YES!". Dave Rietz, WEBmaster NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Nameless, The amount of "free" IGF-I in an adult human is equal to the amount of IGF-I in one 12-ounce glass of milk, about 3000 nanograms. In her lifetime, a human female will naturally produce the equivalent of one tablespoon of estrogen. Hormones work on a nanomolecular scale. That is to say, only a very small amount measured in billionths of grams is necessary to exert powerful biological effects. Like a key fitting into a lock, IGF-I in humans and cows is identical. The same key opens the door to powerful growth effects. IGF-I has been identified as the key factor in the growth and proliferation of every human cancer. Nearly one out of three Americans will die of cancer. Nearly two out of three Americans will die of heart disease. Avoid those dangerous animal fats and cholesterol, and don't ingest powerful growth hormones! Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carmen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: world citizen Time: 2000-05-03 19:21:06 Comments: They must be camouflaging these GE articles in the NYT since i missed the recent one. I did just catch NPR saying how the President is starting a campaign to reassure(brainwash) the American public as well as the Europeans that GE food is safe. Also claiming government is looking at the environmental impact which had been ignored until now.(That is reassuring right there!) Plus, wasn't it wonderful that manufacturers now have the option to Voluntarily label their products! Finally something about reviewing the product for 120 days before it gets thrown out to the public...etc.(missed some here.) I can't wait to see who will be the first to put In big bold letters "Our product is GE" This sounds like a joke. I can just imagine the add campaigns, i would love to see suggestions from people. Who will be first, any bets? On another urgent note, anyone interested in helping a farming family avoid continued Hexazione contamination can. Write an email before the 8th of March See www.getipm.com, enter, & see action alert. It is a compelling story. A few e-mails could change their future & their health. Also let the chemical board know that you support Organic blueberries. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Larry Boies Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Seattle, WA Time: 2000-05-03 01:17:51 Comments: I heared you on the Ernie Brown show, on KOMO radio. I am very interested in your research with dairy products. I am (57) years old, and have realisticly consumed an average of 3 to 6 gallons of milk per week, my entire life. I know there have been days when I have consumed 2 gallons. I believe, I am addicted to it. I believe your research, and am going to take your advice, and quit all dairy products for a week. I would like to quit for a month, I'll try for a week at a time. I have a (20) year old daughter who has all kinds of aller gies, and was diagnosed with a milk allergy when she was a little girl, we took her off milk (dairy prod.) for a month. She had quite a change, she also quit wetting the bed, and she was told by the naturepath to only have a little dairy products every 3 or 4 days. She has done fairly well, but now suffers from asma. Please excuse my spelling. Anyway, I am going to coppy some of your info for her and myself, she now has children, they are having bad health problems. Thank you so much, for your research, and fell free to E-mail me at any time. Sincerelly, Larry Boies ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Clara Libatter Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Uruguay Time: 2000-05-01 14:48:25 Comments: I love this site because it gave me peace of mind. I´m vegetarian and started a vegan diet 4 months ago. Since I´m 43 and female, guess what the doctor told me about osteoporosis... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carmen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: world citizen Time: 2000-04-30 23:27:29 Comments: "Everyone has the right...to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas through any media, regardless of frontiers." Article 19 Universal Declaration Of Human Rights The flip side of that is: You can lead a horse to water.. but you cannot make it drink! Dave Rietz, WEBmaster -------------------------------------- NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Dave and Carmen, Dave's response reminds me of Dorothy Kilgallen's famous retort aimed at the ignorant. Kilgallen was one of the panelists on "What's My Line," and she was also a columnist and great wit. When asked to define 'horticulture,' she responded: You can lead a whore-to-culture, but you can't make her think. There are millions of bright people who have had the veil of ignorance placed over their vision by a 50 year media assault. These people would be repulsed by the thought of drinking milk from 42,999 species of mammal, but from the cow it sounds delicious. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: susie garren Website: home for the goose farm Referred by: NewsGroups From: CA Time: 2000-04-30 20:58:13 Comments: i commend all your efforts & research. it's up to us to spread the word & get it through their thick shells. i suggest to enclose more information on the harm it brings the animals as well as humans.thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: rochelle newton Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: new york Time: 2000-04-29 18:46:32 Comments: You people s*ck. Have you really thought about what life would be like without milk? There would be no ice cream or cheese or what would you drink with your cookies? Pop? Oh and that is so healthy. The majority of the additives and chemicals you speak of are naturally in milk but have also been added by those of us whose lives are devoted to the dairy industry. Why don't you take up a real cause or atleast learn a few facts about the one you have chosen!!!! I hope you all die from milk withdrawl and don't you dare have any ice cream this summer when it is over a 100 degrees outside. CHEERS TO YOU ALL AS I DRINK A GLASS OF MILK THAT MY COWS PRODUCED TODAY AND I'LL HAV ETHE LAST LAUGH WHEN YOU ARE ALL DEAD AND GONE!!!!! Enjoy the fruits of your self-imposed ignorance... for they will be many! Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Amanda Murphy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Florida Time: 2000-04-29 16:03:54 Comments: This website is very good. You could tell that you put alot of hard work into it, but not drinking milk is not healthy or inhumane. To get rid of the diease or what ever the cow might have they pasturize the milk. Didn't you ever drink milk?? Please answer my questions with the e-mail address above... My... my. You didn't read ANYTHING, did you! The truth is there... over 400 WEB pages (around 2200 MORE pages then are in Mr. Cohen's book... and all FREE! Forget what you THINK you know and READ (for your health!). Dave Rietz, WEBmaster -------------------------------------- NOTMILKMAN Comments: Dear Amanda, Read a doctor's advice to his patients: KRADJIAN http://www.afpafitness.com/milkdoc.htm I have written thousands of things. Tell me one that you disagree with in any of my hundreds of columns: COLUMNS http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html How about just one thing you disagree with in the following: CALCIUM http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html DIABETES http://www.notmilk.com/deb/011099.html Robert Cohen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Noel Kaufmann Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: DC Time: 2000-04-27 09:27:19 Comments: Obnoxious, desperate dairy: at a bus stop here in DC, one of those huge ads that reads: "400 homers, 3000 hits, how many glasses of milk? Thanks Cal." Folks, if this kind of blatant stuff outrages you too, I would like to suggest adbusters.org for some good grassroots ideas on what they call "culture jamming"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Christina Website: Christina Referred by: Yahoo! From: NJ Time: 2000-04-26 22:04:08 Comments: This web-site is one of the best Anti-dairy milk sites ive seen yet.Keep up the good work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: russell hollis Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: vermont Time: 2000-04-25 23:01:33 Comments: wonderful resource... i will share this site with all my friends. thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: joanmcgovern Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Santa Fe, N>M Time: 2000-04-25 15:29:11 Comments: my friend SteveN James told me to look you up. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Bryn Thomas Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Woodstock, NY Time: 2000-04-24 22:06:36 Comments: i was at the potluck in kingston, ny and truly enjoyed everything that you had said. i had went vegan a week or so before that because i have endometriosis and was told that it might help. i was totally struggling because i had been an absolute cheese and ice cream addict and you really inspired me. i've been strick vegan for about a month now and recently had some ice cream and threw up because of it. it's awful about what the fda is doing and i totally respect your work. i'm 16 and have been vegetarian for 6 years and veganism is definetly the way to go. all i know is that my kids (wayy down the road) will definetly be vegan because there is no question in my mind that it's better for you. my energy has boosted and i feel like a new person. thanx for the inspiration. keep on fighting those fda @#&*@'s!!!---*bryn* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Samuele Mazzolini Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Italy Time: 2000-04-24 17:10:35 Comments: We have to fight against the machine!!! The machine is USA,Monsanto,Mc Donald's,Nestlè,... RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!!!! Samuele Mazzolini ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Frannie Website: Frannie's Page Referred by: From a Friend From: Canada Time: 2000-04-22 09:15:31 Comments: I am 13 years old and I heard about this site from my mother. We have both decided to stop drinking milk after we read this. I also have asthma and it says in here that it is better for asthma if you do not drink milk. Plus all the other reasons why we shouldn't drink it, like the infection from the cows in the milk, now that just totally grossed me out! Well, thats about it, thanx! oh ya, and please visit my page and sign my guest book and e-mail me, thanx! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Frannie Website: Frannies home page Referred by: From a Friend From: Canada Time: 2000-04-22 08:47:55 Comments: This site is very helpful and gives alot of great information, I enjoyed reading everything thank-you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rachel Website: Mystic Forest Referred by: From a Friend From: Time: 2000-04-20 23:35:32 Comments: This is a really good page. I'm vegetarian and against animal cruelty, but I was wondering something. My cousin is a farmer and he has cows. He has organic milk and I know he doesn't kill them after he milks them (or whatever). Is it still right for me to drink it? You are still "attached" to the GREATEST myth of the 20th century. Cow milk and dairy are NOT appropriate for humans! Doctor Spock said about the same thing before he died. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kristina Kruzan Website: Promotion of Mother's Milk, Inc. (ProMoM, Inc.) Referred by: Net Search From: Seattle, WA Time: 2000-04-20 17:28:56 Comments: I've read your guest book off and on with a mixture of pleasure, frustration, laughter and disgust. It's wonderful to know that you are receiving a wide range of people on your site- If they think about this issue for just 2 minutes, that's *something* more than if they didn't. We have to start somewhere! I volunteer for a breastfeeding advocacy organization, http://www.promom.org. I'll be resigning from the Board of the Directors this term but I've spent 3+ wonderful years with them. Your website really broadened my view about 'milk' and what it means to our children, and our culture. I'm suprised more breastfeeding organizations don't make this association and act on it. We ask that women breastfeed their children and not give them formula which comes from cows- yet when the children hit a year old, we have no issue with giving them cow's milk. Something is wrong with this picture. The average weaning age of a child is 4+ years old, and we who work in BF advocacy hope that each child is breastfed for as long as possible. Yet we don't question when our milk is effectively replaced in our child's diet by that of a cow, whether it happens at birth, 1 year, 3 years or 5 years of age. I would like to see the 'notmilk' crowd and the 'probreastfeeding' crowd collaborate at some point. I envision a joint effort at changing the minds of our legislators about what we're putting into our bodies, and what we're choosing to feed our children. Feel free to email me at magicke@hotmail.com NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Kristina, Human breast milk is the PERFECT substance for a nursing baby human. We support your organization, and have a link to "101 Reasons to Breastfeed Your Child" on our website: http://www.notmilk.com/deb.html Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Inessa Vishnevkine Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: New York Time: 2000-04-19 22:18:41 Comments: This is a really great website! I became a vegan about a month ago and it's quite rewarding! Not only are animal products unhealthy, but they hurt animals! Cows live their lives in misery to make milk for people. They should not suffer so much, just to feed us. We have so many things to eat besides dairy - why contribute to animal cruelty? "The human body has no more need for cows' milk, than it does for dogs' milk, horses' milk, or giraffes' milk" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Alex Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-04-19 18:27:38 Comments: Milk is important to your body and calcium helps you grow stronger. Hope you al morons get week in the bones when you get old... IF you get old. Too bad you chose not to read any of the 300+ pages (about 2500 printed sheets of paper). It might have keep you healthier... longer. Dave Rietz, Webmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraighe MacCoinnich Website: Referred by: ust Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-04-19 08:41:12 Comments: Daphne said: "But if you eat it all the time it doesn't do anything to you." I ate it all the time and it made me SO sick (everyday the dairy induced stomach cramps had me wanting to kill myself, but I couldn't even do that as it was so painful). So what Daphne says is a load of bullcrapt, basically...... just like the Dairy industry; they feed us Cow Milk and Bull Crap. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: LC Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Canada Time: 2000-04-18 15:29:34 Comments: A couple months back I read some articles about why milk isn't good for you. Since then, I have not drank on sip of milk. Although I do sometimes idulge in dairy products such as ice cream or cheese on my pizza, there are some that I love, but have completely given up. Thanks to articles and sites like yours for pointing me in the right direction! Remember that the nasty stuff in cow's milk is TIMES ONE. It takes: EIGHT pounds of milk to make one pound of Sherbet TEN pounds of milk to make one pound of hard cheese TWELVE pounds of milk to make one pound of ice cream TWENTY ONE pounds of milk to make one pound of 100% fat BUTTER You guessed it! "X" times whatever in every bite. By the way... why are so many folks afraid to provide a valid Email address? Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Alicia Aguirre Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Madrid, Spain. Time: 2000-04-18 10:37:52 Comments: Hello again. A few weeks ago I signed your guestbook but didn't dare leave my email address. To tell you the truth, I saw so many infuriated people insulting you and the contents of this page that I thought I had better not leave it, just in case anybody decided to write me a similar "love letter". But hey, who cares? I'll handle them if they do. My email is aliciaaguirre@hotmail.com and if you want to read what I wrote, it's on record nº 1617 (not that it's specially interesting). In the meantime, I'm sending the address of the Notmilk page to everybody I know here in Spain and abroad. Bye for now! We appreciate your courage, Alicia, and thank you for your support. The beauty of Email is that there is always the DELETE button. At worst... one can always "filter out" the persistent unwanted stuff. I see you are from beautiful and historic Madrid. My wife Isabel was born Jerez de la Frontera... and I discovered her in Cadiz. I stole her from Spain 39 years ago :-) Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Danyelle Weiss Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: NY Time: 2000-04-17 13:27:55 Comments: I have been a vegetarian for about a year, and just recently converted to becoming a vegan. Although, I have never missed meat, I do miss foods like cheese and ice cream. Everytime I have a craving, I look for a website like yours to keep my personal mission on track. I was very interested in your article on casein, being an asthmatic, I am anxious to see if my condition changes in the coming dairy-free months ahead! Thank-you! Danyelle Weiss Go to http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html and read about Fo-Jo... and similar articles. Dave Rietz, Webmaster. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: DAphne Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: PA Time: 2000-04-17 09:42:46 Comments: I don't know if I could live without milk. If I did go without it for a week and then ate a lot i probably would get sick because my body wouldn't be used to it. It would be like that with anything. But if you eat it all the time it doesn't do anything to you. As an ex-dairy lover/user for 60 years I do very well without it. More to the point, my terminal prostate cancer grows FOUR TIMES SLOWER than when I consumed dairy!!! How you can assume that 59 hormones, the equivalent cholesterol of 34.5 slices of bacon a day (IF you have no more than three glass of milk a day), 49% of calories from saturated fats, a steady influx of a powerful histamine (mucus maker), and a daily bombardment of virus, bacteria, herbicides, pesticides, dioxins, residue of up to 52 antibiotics, and more... "doesn't do anything to you" is beyond me. Enjoy... for less time than you were allocated. I did, and I have paid dearly for my misplaced trust. By the way... will you ever muster up the integrity to be responsible for your words? GOT EMAIL? Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: michael e. chaplinsky Website: Referred by: Net Search From: pennsylvania Time: 2000-04-16 23:04:45 Comments: After reading all of the articles for the anti milk society, I am beginning to realize something: Big Business is Bad Business. I am an addisonian, i have no adrenals. I was raised on a diet high in milk products, although I now do not consume milk in the quantities I did as a child. I do however, use Creamer in my coffee, and eat a fair amount of cheese. This would call for some massive overhaul of my eating habits to remove all traces of Casein, and other dairy related products. My health has been a sour issue since 1975, and now I'm wondering (not paranoia)if this country's lust for profits hasn't made me who I am today. I think maybe we all should adopt a nonmilk day ( like the smokeouts so common today) to send a message to the lawmakers, and maybe then they might listen. Also, is is possible that CJD in humans is disguised as Alzheimers Disease, there is a striking similarity of afflections. This leaves a lot to ponder, I wouldn't doubt it for a moment. Thankx for your forum, i appreciate the chance to comment. Thank You, Michael E. Chaplinsky NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Michael, The human form of mad cow disease is called CJD, or Cruetzfeld-Jacob disease. Cruetzfeld and Jacob were two physicians who worked with Dr. Alzheimer, and all three specialized in brain diseases leading to dimentia. At times, CJD is behaviorally similar to Alzheimer's. However, neurologists are able to diagnose the differences...if they are "looking." Brain wave patterns differ, and simple blood tests can identify a patient with CJD. One area of concern to me is when a patient has Alzheimers, and then gets CJD. Alzheimers is not pleasant. Quite often, death becomes a welcome relief to many years of suffering. In the case of CJD, onset of death after the first symptom is rapid, often lasting six months or less. Rarely, if ever are autopsies performed upon Alzheimer's patients. One notable exception provided an enormous surprise, and a dire warning for Americans. Scientists at a Pennsylvania University have 120 brains in their depository. These brains are from patients who supposedly died from Alzheimers. A recent examination of those brains revealed that nearly ten percent actually died from CJD and not Alzheimers. Drink milk and eat flesh from diseased animals and you might one day find yourself with the human equivalent of bovine spongioform encephalitis. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Dwayne Bassett Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Atlanta, GA Time: 2000-04-16 20:36:04 Comments: How can an individual become involved on a "grass roots" level or support the education process through this organization? All US Citizens have the same options. * Write to the FDA and let them know of your concerns. Commissioner Jane Henney Food & Drug Administration Parklawn 5600 Fishers Lane Rockville, MD 20857 Stephen F. Sundlof, D.V.M., Ph.D. Director, Center for Veterinary Medicine HFV1 7500 Standish Pl. Rockville, MD 20855 * If you think there is fraud... contact the US DoJ U.S. Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Ave, NW Washington, DC 20530-0001 * Write your congressional reps with your concerns. US Congress Search * Tell your family, friends, co-workers, PTA, Church groups... and have them pass around URL's (notmilk.com and hungerstrike.com), and invite discussions and action on the subject. * Write or call your local media (Radio, TV, Newspapers) * Inform your supermarket managers of your concerns, and inform him/her you are one of many who will stop buying products that use questionable substances (rbGH laced milk and dairy). * Return products for the same reason and request a full refund. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Tutu Website: Whistleblowers Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-04-16 15:48:11 Comments: Great site!! Keep the good work up... People who enjoyed visiting this site may also find the following site interesting: http://whistleblowers.freehosting.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jessica Semar Website: Referred by: AOL From: Cary Time: 2000-04-15 23:46:55 Comments: I found your site to very helpful and important. I now have information to give to others to prove to them why they shouldn't drink milk and eat meat. Your insight is very important for people to read, and I thank you for caring about others. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Pam Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Ireland Time: 2000-04-15 21:13:07 Comments: Thank you for taking the time and trouble to create this wonderful site. I have long been aware of how bad milk is and wanted to talk about this at a public speaking group that I am in. Your wonderful site provided me with loads of information to qualify my arguments. Everyone was so impressed (and shocked). Keep up the good work. I was able to give many people your website address and I hope they log on and learn. Again thank you, Pam. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jean Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: North West Time: 2000-04-15 04:02:52 Comments: I am a parent to five dairy free children. I am sickened at our public schools for pushing dairy and hormone laced food products onto innocent children, especially those whose choices have been taken from them through the "free" lunch program. As a comparative to my children and those with daily dairy consumption, my children are healthier, and not surprising more emotionally stable as altered foods are not wreaking havoc on thier endoctrine systems... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Starleen Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Washington State Time: 2000-04-15 00:01:06 Comments: I want to thank you for doing what you are doing. Although I am a major dairy eater and drinker and always have been I am giving it up for my health. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Dave Wilbur Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Missouri Time: 2000-04-14 18:09:39 Comments: Does government prefer healthy money to healhy people? They published a booklet titled: KEEPING OUR MONEY HEALTHY where they said their UNLIMITED money would keep its value "if there were fewer people biding against each other". Do cancer and other diseases leave fewer people to bid against each other? For this booklet, the Library of Congress Catalogue Number is: 60-14368 / Revised, January 1979 It was published by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and was out of print but it may have been reprinted. Most certainly fewer citizens will keep the Social Security system in better shape... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Maggie Carson Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Time: 2000-04-13 20:29:49 Comments: Mr. Cohen, I commend you on the your strength and selfless actions on the part of the American people. If some of your guests here could only begin to understand the power of the conglomerates that you are up against and the danger of knowing their 'truths', they would surely understand all of this easily. Unfortunately, it has always taken just one voice in the darkness to make all the differance in the world. Keep the faith, Mr. Cohen, the real truth ALWAYS reveals itself. Thank you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Daphne Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: PA Time: 2000-04-13 09:39:29 Comments: You said that milk causes early puberty in teenagers in the United states, I don't think it is because of milk. Teenagers in the U.S. eat more and have more nutrition than people in China. Therefore teenagers grow faster in the U.S. than in China. Puberty comes when you are at a certain weight, since teenagers weigh more earlier in age here than in China they go through puberty earlier. I think you are just twisting the facts around to make them say what you want them to. You say milk causes diarrhea and constipation. When people go on vacation thay drink water from that place, that could be one of their problems. I really doubt that ice cream causes constipation.I drink milk and eat ice cream all the time and I am never constipated. I drink usually about 3 or 4 glasses of milk each day and I don't have any of these diseases. Please get your facts straight! Mr. Cohen didn't say "milk causes early puberty"... rather, a detailed report on the Japanese following their society after being concurred... contains that information. JUNK SCIENCE VS. TRUTH ABOUT EARLY PUBERTY FROM MILK details that feature of milk from simple statistics. "You say milk causes diarrhea and constipation" Try a simple test... "Daphne" (if that is your name)... and let your OWN body tell you about cow's milk and dairy. For ONE WEEK... consume NO milk or dairy (and this will be very difficult... as dairy is everywhere!). You will have to read labels... to eliminate EVERYTHING with anything "caseinate" in it, anything with WHEY in it, and anything that uses milk, cheese or butter in it as either an ingredient OR as part of the preparation (such as frying something in butter). Then... on the EIGHTH day pig out. Have two or more slices of pizza with LOTS of cheese, wash it down with a malt, milkshake or glass of milk, and top off this tasty treat with lots of ice cream. Then... unless you are too embarrassed to tell the world about it... come back and give us full putrid details on the "aftermath". Should you work up the courage to do this... perhaps you will become honest, forthright and accountable enough to provide a valid EMAIL address that will allow others to express their minds to YOU! Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Adam Simpson Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: London Time: 2000-04-13 07:25:14 Comments: I first found out about the problems of milk through Maximuscle company. I was wondering, can acne/spots be one of the side effects through eating dairy produce? This is the main reason i have cut my dairy intake. Please someone advise me on this!!! ferret@adam21.fsnet.co.uk NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Adam, In England you call them "spots," and in America we call'em "zits." Either way, these oily/greasy pus-filled pimples contain dead white blood cells, the same thing that makes milk what it is. Eliminate pus with hormones, fat, and cholesterol (milk) and your complexion should be rosy. Attend a meeting of your local VEGAN society and note how smoothie and beautiful are the faces of its members. Then go to a meeting of beefeaters anonymous, and note the lumpy skin, powerful bad breath, and obnoxious body odors. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Russ Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-04-12 23:43:36 Comments: All you people care about is selling your stupid book. It dosnt have anything to do with milk just putting money in your pockets. Yet another wrong guess, Russ. There are over 400 WEB pages on www.notmilk.com and www.hungerstrike.com that when combined have more information than there is in the 316 page book... AND IT IS ALL FREE! By the way... books are not stupid. Stupid people are stupid. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: april Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: mi Time: 2000-04-12 21:10:03 Comments: hi. i just wanted to say that i think this is a great site, i've learned A LOT. right now i'm working on a research paper about milk and advertising, so this site has been a great deal of help. (-: i had one question. i was trying to find the answer on your site, but my eyes got tired after the first 50 or so of the pages (wow!). and i can't remember if this is information the mr. cohen was denied by the FDA and monsanto in that report. so i was hoping you could just answer it for me. (pretty pretty please!) anyway, my question concerns that study with the rats getting cancer. i was just curious how much of the stuff the rats were given. like, was it massive doses, or was it about the same percentage as found in milk? i'm curious because i've been learning a lot about cancer and the "politics of cancer" along with this milk study, and from what i've learned, a little bit of a "bad thing" sometimes isn't harmful. even consuming like too much vitamin C can be harmful at extremely high doses. so i was just curious if they gave the rats a reasonable amount that might be exposed to humans or if they gave it to them in mammoth sized portions. i greatly appreciate your time if you can answer this question. keep up the good work. (-: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: michelle brown Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Ogden. Utah Time: 2000-04-12 20:14:50 Comments: I'm vegan and you should be to! All of you reading this! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ashley Faith Website: MSN Referred by: NewsGroups From: Chicago,Illinois Time: 2000-04-12 17:45:53 Comments: I haven't really browesed the site yet but it looks like a nice site. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Denae Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-04-12 09:15:27 Comments: Since when is lying suitable for family viewing? I notice you made no comment to the truth that bst is a natural horomone in dairy cows. I think people who are against milk and meat should be put on a list and when the world becomes over populated and their isn't enough food to feed everybody the people on that list should be the first to starve. As to your comment on lying... well, you will have to take that up with the likes of Clinton and all his buddies, Monsanto and their buddies, the FDA and USDA and their buddies, the Fluid Milk Processors and their PR folks... because we don't deal in lies. There are over 300 pages on www.notmilk.com and over 100 pages on www.hungerstrike.com Your assignment is to find anything you can prove to be a lie... and present YOUR impeccable data to refute what we present as the truth. Monsanto spent half a billion dollars inventing a Frankenstein version of BST (rbST) with five nasty errors in it. So why is it necessary to comment on the obvious? Of course BST is "natural". That is precisely why cow's milk is so dangerous... because that translates to INSULIN-LIKE GROWTH FACTOR ONE (IGF-1), a powerful growth hormone that is IDENTICAL between cow's and humans. It was designed to make a newborn GROW FAST. What do you suppose it does for humans... especially adults? That normal IGF-1 is present in EVERY sip of milk and bite of dairy. Cow's shot up with Posilac have up to 80% more of it in their milk. I have terminal cancer... and when I had no idea concerning the WHOLE TRUTH about cow's milk and dairy.. and consumed too much of if (typical American diet).. my cancer grew with a 1.5 point PSA rise PER MONTH. Now that I have abandoned all milk and dairy the rise is a much slower 0.3 points per month. For me...and perhaps other cancer victims... eliminating dairy means a longer life! Armed with the truth, that was consciously withheld from me for most of my 60+ years by both industry and the government, I decided almost three years ago that cow's milk and dairy... which taste GREAT (an acquired taste, by the way) were NOT a "taste to die for". As to wishing people who disagree with you ILL WILL... well, that says a lot about your character. Perhaps you should become pen pals with Saddam Hussein? Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mary Sutton Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: California Time: 2000-04-11 18:13:11 Comments: I gave up milk over a year ago. My incidences of asthma and allergic reactions have significantly reduced since then. It is encouraging to find I can IMPROVE my health in middle age; usually all you get to celebrate are new dis-eases. After reading some of the information on the www.notmilk.com website, I will be even more careful to purge dairy and meat products from my diet. I can also understand why European countries (and others) do not wish to import American bred beef -- why would they if it is laced with antibiotics, steroids, and growth hormones? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rashmi Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: India Time: 2000-04-11 16:11:36 Comments: Hi, I read the disadvantages of milk yesterday in www.rediff.com (http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/apr/11inter.htm) and Indian Express newspaper. Just learn more about the milk, I was surfing the net and I hit this web site. I could not believe what I read. But after reading this, I have made up my mind to minimize (I'll try to stop also) the use of milk. Thanks for providing such good information. Rashmi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: julie frawley Website: Referred by: Viewing another Guestbook From: Time: 2000-04-11 16:24:05 Comments: I am so disgusted with our "government" selling our souls and bodies out to Monsanto and the like. I am so grateful for the Internet because now all of this information is available for all to see and learn the truth. I am boycotting all of these peddlers of death, disease and destruction and will encourage as many people as possible to do the same and will pass the word along. God Bless! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Christine Farnam Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Oregon Time: 2000-04-11 13:13:24 Comments: My friend from New Zealand found your page, liked it and referred me. I have not read it all yet, but it looks GREAT!! My hubby has problems that may be related to milk products, so this site is just what we needed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Alicia Aguirre Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Madrid, Spain Time: 2000-04-11 04:33:46 Comments: First of all, I would like to congratulate you for your page. It is well explained and informative, but it is also entertaining. I also wanted to ask a simple question: why do people get so mad when you tell them milk isn't good for them? I recently told a diabetic friend of mine that he should quit milk, and he looked at me as if I was telling him he had to kill his dog or stop loving his family or something of the sort. People truly get angry when you point out that cow's milk isn't meant for humans. "Haven't we been drinking it for ages?" they scream. I get the feeling that people react this way because it is the ultimate lie, and when they realise it, all their certainties in life crumble. If milk really isn't good for you, when what other lies have they fed us? It's much safer to stick to what they know and just go on living their lives, without asking themselves too many questions. I think it would interesting for you to make a new section in your page where you could try to explain all this to those who are firm believers in milk's goodness. Maybe there's a way to stop them from going nuts as soon as you mention the subject. I don't know if it's possible, but somebody should certainly try it. I'm doing my best here, but it's hard, you know? People actually think I'm crazy just because I ask them if they usually drink when they tell me about their ailments. I've quit milk recently too, but I didn't really drink much in the first place so it was easy. The mere idea of drinking something that came out of a cow's udder made me sick. Well, enough said. Keep up the good work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: pshhh i'm not telling you Website: none Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: California Time: 2000-04-10 21:22:58 Comments: YOUR PAGE (censored) ***. **** YOU, (censored) !!!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Pascalle Sweerts Website: The Halcyon Cosmopolitan Entertainment Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Time: 2000-04-10 15:46:59 Comments: We have linked to your website. Thank you for this great source of information. Kindest regards, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Denae Johnson Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-04-10 09:20:26 Comments: You people are so stupid, much of what you say isn't true. You say that bst is an added horomone, cows produce bst naturally. You would rather drink soy milk that contains pesticides than cow milk that is all natural!? I love milk and it has never done anything to me or anyone I know. I will continue to drink cow's milk reguardless of what you say because much of what you say is just your own personal opinion. By the way, I think it's pretty funny that you have to have someone read this entry in your guestbook and approve it before it put in the guestbook. You must be worried someone might be in support of the dairy indutry and you don't want anyone to read it before you have hours to think of some more "scientific evidence" to support your responses. The approval phase is necessary to allow us to eliminate language not suitable for family viewing. Such entries most often come from unaccountable types like you (people who provide no valid Email address that can be used for a response). WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: shawn Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: philadelphia Time: 2000-04-09 16:25:16 Comments: hello, i am 15 and from philadelphia. i find your site informative and interesting. i would also appreciate a response to this post. i completely agree with your views on milk as being mildly unhealthy. I do not unnescessarily drink milk, but will occasionaly have it in cereal or perhaps some cheese. from reading your website i feel that you ( unfortunately i have not spent much time on your site alone as i have been traveling among sites like yours) you, the anti milk campaign, are going about this the wrong way. for example, cohen and his fasting. i dont't feel this the write way about going about anything. drinking milk and fasting on juice are at least equally dangerous, the latter being ridicuously harmful to his health. furthermore, i feel although milk is agravatory (is that word? :) ) to the illnesses and diseases you profess, it is not the only source of them. for example, you know as well as i that early puberty in children is not from solely milk. how about the cancerous radiation produced from x-rays, technology, pollution etc? it seems to me that you are mixing religion with ethics, and an unworthy cause. how about quitting milk and helping the poor or something. there is many a problem that should & can be solved before the ignorant will stop drinking their beloved milk. i do agree with many of your views. i do believe milk is mildly dangerous, but saying that cow milk is meant for cows and human milk is for humans is nonsense. if this were true i dont think that we should eat anything outside our species. should we really eat cows if we cant drink their milk. its a hard point to follow, but if we eat their meat why cant we drink their milk. anyways. milk sucks. right on. "saying that cow milk is meant for cows and human milk is for humans is nonsense" Well, Shawn, you are several millions (perhaps billions) of years late with that revelation. Had you been around at the correct time in this planets evolution you could have saved mother nature loads time. YOUR extreme tardiness with your astounding revelation caused mother nature to waste literally eons of time developing different formulation for each of the over 40,000 versions of mammal milk.... complete with species-specific immunoglobulins, lactoferrins and more. Shawn, you should hang your head in abject shame for being so late! Those who promote dairy as "necessary and healthy" missed YOUR profound dictum that all milk is identical... because they favor only one of over 40,000 versions (and they turned up their noses at the one mother natured designed for humans!). In addition, they refuse to believe the obvious... that humans are the ONLY creatures that collect and consume the diseased body fluids of any other species. In short... humans have rejected mother natures' mandate to be weaned from her (as she designed it) emergency nutritional starter food-pack, designed to inoculate the helpless newborn with creature-specific goodies, and to promote rapid growth. The USDA and their buddies recommend THREE 8-ounce glasses of cow's milk a day. That amount provides each user with the cholesterol equivalent of 19 slices of bacon, lots of saturated fats, concentrated toxins (anything the cow ate and stored in her fat), any combination of up to 52 different antibiotics, FIFTY NINE HORMONES, allergens, some amounts of blood, feces (the real "stuff"), assorted virus, and for added taste... the FDA allows up to 20,000,000 live bacteria and 750,000,000 pus cells... per liter. Learning that IGF-1 was a powerful growth hormone in every sip of milk and bite of dairy... helps me to understand why my surprise case of prostate cancer had already spread by the young age of 55. That... and the rest of the truth on dairy made me to decide that any form of this substance was NOT a "taste to die for!". Informing other humans of the WHOLE truth is only right and proper... so that they can make informed decisions for themselves. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Laura Borden Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: New York Time: 2000-04-09 10:32:47 Comments: I would just like to start out by saying that I am the proud daughter of a diary farmer. I have lived and worked on this 6 generation dairy farm all my life, and so forgive if i'm a little biased. I have also worked with the ADADC and other farming organizations, and am now a dairy princess. everyone is entitled to their opinion, and you accuse the dairy industry of shoving their opinion down consumers' throats. to contradict that point, what is it exactly that you are doing here? you see, people can't form their own opinions unless all the points are stated unbiasedly. let them look at the facts. as for the goodness of milk, it is your decision to do what you will with your own health. personally i believe that the mere benefits of milk are important enough that one should consider drinking those 3 glasses a day. but if not, then look at all the great products available out there. i'm not trying to sell milk here, i just want to say that i'm disappointed at your efforts to go against an industry that is so important to our nation, and the world. this one really hits close to home. You've made a choice, as many others have, and thats ok. Just make sure you know all the facts before you report. On www.notmilk.com there are over 300 WEB pages with solid proof... from a variety of sources, and on www.hungerstrike.com there are over a hundred more. Mankind is only ONE of over 40,000 mammals on this planet. Each of them has milk formulated for its own kind... with species-specific immunoglobulins and lactoferrins, and different percentages of the various substances. In other words, Laura Borden, mother nature designed each milk to be appropriate for only one species. Mother nature also programs each mother to WEAN their young from milk (when appropriate)... to forage for LIFE SUSTAINING nutrients necessary for its species. THAT INCLUDES HUMAN BABIES! Who are you, or the dairy folks, or the USDA... to countermand mother natures plan by convincing humans to nurse from a cow? Can you name me any other, of those 40,000+ mammals, that make a habit of consuming the bodily juices of another species? Why do we not consume dog's milk... from mans best friend? Or rat, mouse, skunk, or pigs milk? Too small? OK... why not elephant or whale milk? Better yet... why not just never get weaned from our own mothers milk... mother natures "perfect food" designed for human babies? Simple reason... because mother nature, with many millions of years of experience to her credit, didn't plan it that way! As WEBmaster of NOTMILK.com I wish you the best of luck in your other "lifes endeavors"... because with your reading skills you will need all the good luck you can get! Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: russ Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-04-09 02:14:51 Comments: the spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.Such teachings come through HYPOCRITICAL LIARS, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.They forbid people to mary and order them to abstain from certain FOODS, wich god created to be received with thanksgiving by those who bealive and know the TRUTH.For evrything god created is good, and and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving. 1st Timothy 1-4. For those of you who like to quote the first chapter of Genesis verse 29,you may want to read the next one because some of you faild to say that we were also given all the beasts on the earth and all the birds in the sky, and evry creature that moves on the ground for food also.If you people want to use quotes out of the bible thats fine with me but you may want to read the last chapter of revelation verse 18,19 wich reads:I warn evryone who hears the words of the prohhecy of thi book:If anyone adds anything to them ,god will add to him the plagues described in this book. and if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, god will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city. So if you want to use the bible to promote your little web site it might be a good idea to use the whole passage rather that taking words out of contex and saying its from the bible when its realy not.You people are wasteing your time anyway .any smart person knows that milk is safe and is good for you Sigh...! Yet another pro-dairy "expert" with no valid identification. The only ISSUES that really bear on cow's milk and dairy... are the real facts omitted by those who make, modify, promote and sell it. NOTMILK and HUNGERSTRIKE.com's have the truth available... for anyone sufficiently interested in their health (and sufficiently unbiased) to read and comprehend. Cow's milk, as a "food" for humans... has NO redeeming features as reasons to consume it. If you can handle the WHOLE truth... think obesity, osteoporosis, heart disease, accelerated cancers, diabetes, allergies, toxins, and more. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: June Coyne Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Bennington, Vermont Time: 2000-04-08 21:52:41 Comments: Keep up the good work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: serena serafin Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: pa Time: 2000-04-07 13:28:37 Comments: i like ur site alot, i just started being vegan and i am realizing how underrepresented we r in the area i live in. it's nice to get some ideas of food i can eat minus all the harful dairy agents. i saw robert cohen at a soliadrity confrence in happy valley, pa last weekend and he made an impact on me!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Daphne Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-04-07 09:56:44 Comments: (your entry number one) You guys are crazy. It's like saying your against water. MILK IS GREAT AND GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who cares about your stupid studies, you probably made it up. (your entry number two) You guys are crazy. Milk is good for you (your entry number three) why are you guys against milk. What did it ever do to you? Just wondering. Good Grief! Yet another functional illerate or 100% percent opinionated pro-dairy expert who has nothing more to learn on the subject of cow's milk or dairy. You might consider getting your act together by trying to concentrate on just WHAT you want to say... and make only ONE post instead of three. NOTMilk.com and hungerstrike.com are not meant for the likes of you, Daphne. These sites exists for folks who care about their lives and their health... and other who seek possible causes for their health problems that their doctors are not resolving. Enjoy the many (but unnecessary) "fruits" of your self-imposed ingorance. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Robin Peters Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Hodgkins IL (near Chicago) Time: 2000-04-07 02:54:14 Comments: I'm learning a lot from this website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Paul Website: freedom Referred by: From a Friend From: Michigan Time: 2000-04-05 15:59:05 Comments: When are you communist bastards going to stop trying to destroy the american family? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Paul, I am not a Communist, and I am not trying to destroy the American family. Two out of three ain't bad! Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: amy leblanc Website: phunkybitch Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button From: San Francisco Time: 2000-04-04 17:07:29 Comments: Your page is extremely informative and I agree with almost 100% of it. No matter what the other people on this guestbook have to say, drinking MILK is NOT natural for human beings and is NOT good for you. How many other animals drink the milk of OTHER animals? How many other adult animals drink milk AT ALL?? The answer is none. Your vet will even tell you that giving milk to your cat is bad. Also, you're correct in quoting Genesis 1:26 -- according to that scripture we were given PLANTS to eat, not animals. I am a vegetarian (not yet a vegan), but the more i read about dairy products (all the hormones -- gross!) the more i think dairy is even worse for you than meat. At least it might be considered natural for a human to consume other animals; under no circumstance or scientific evidence is it proved natural and/or good for adult humans to consume any type of milk, esp. not the milk of another animal. Gross. Thanks for your time and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: kev Website: Deadzone Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Blackburn, Lancashire, UK Time: 2000-04-04 08:52:18 Comments: Very interesting site! from a former lactose addict. Peace Kev :o) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: shane Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-04-03 21:03:29 Comments: Thank you for your helpful comments, I had gotten confused. I appreciate the post. And I purposefully always leave bogus email addresses simply for my own safety and to protect myself from spamming. My opionion, of course, but anything less then being honest and forthright is not a good plan. Subterfuge does nothing to foster good will or trust. As to SPAM... there may well be upwards of six billion versions of what that term means. Regardless, there are only TWO ways to eliminate unwanted Email... abandon the Internet or watch it disintegrate from lack of ethics, honesty and stifling regulation those traits will generate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: shane carter Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-04-03 14:40:58 Comments: i just had one question... somewhere in the mass huge thing (:)) u said that americans have alot of dairy in their diet, and then u say that milk consumption is down. does this mean that we aren't seeking milk as our major source of dairy anymore? or perhaps, in the midst of the giganticness of this site, did i misunderstand? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Shane, The good news is that milk consumption is down. Despite those silly milk pustache ads, Americans are drinking less milk. The bad news is that cheese, ice cream, and pizza consumption is increasing. It takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese, and twelve pounds of milk to make one pound of ice cream. We eat increased amounts of dairy products containing concentrated hormones, pus, casein, fat, cholesterol, pesticides, antibiotics, and Dioxins. (and more!) Regards, The NOTMILKMAN --------------------------------------------------- Mr. Cohen said that, statistically, cow's milk and dairy consist of over 39% of the American diet. That plays a VERY significant role in over half of Americans being OBESE (along with having any of a wide range of milk-related illnesses). The USDA "food pyramid" shows that milk and dairy should be around 8% of the diet... assuming that cow's milk and dairy had any redeeming nutritional features... which it does not. The USDA food pyramid should look like http://www.notmilk.com/usdamid.gif However, Americans continue to consume FAR too much cow's milk and dairy (well over the suggested amount) Here are the stats for a recent year: 586 pounds of milk and dairy products 394 pounds of vegetables 199 pounds of meat 193 pounds of products containing flour and cereal 121 pounds of fresh fruit? so the REAL pyramid looks like: http://www.notmilk.com/pyrmnew.jpg Milk CONSUMPTION by Americans has been falling... meaning that the US Government, by virtue of subsidies and price supports, must purchase excess unwanted dairy production, store it, make arrangements to give it away, and throw away what cannot be otherwise disposed of. All, at taxpayer expense. On http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirt22.html#87 there is this note by Mr. Cohen: "Many thousands of dairy farms will cease to exist in 2000 because there is an enormous surplus of milk. Surplus milk means lower prices. Lower prices spell disaster for dairy producers. Last year, dairymen were getting over $17 for every hundred pounds of milk they produced. Did they really need more milk? Use of Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone increases a cow's milk by up to 25%. The most recent price farmers received for 100 pounds of milk was under $10, and that spells bankruptcy." For less than subsidy price for milk prices the government (the taxpayer) mus t(by dairy-tweaked laws) pay the difference. (see http://www.notmilk.com/hs/nixon.html for the tip of THAT "milk berg") Robert Cohen asks: "Does a nearly $5 billion SUBSIDY to the dairy farmers of America sound "udderly" ridiculous to you?" Dave Rietz, WEBmaster (Typical... the above "fleeb@yahoo.com" is a yet another bogus Email address!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ryan Fraley Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Bloomington Illinois Time: 2000-04-02 19:45:33 Comments: I have located the cause of my Asperger's Syndrome thanks to you. I still don't get what is so bad about meat, though. You could be a little less emotional about your point since beliefs must be gradually eroded when they are so deep set in people. I don't know about cutting meat out of my diet, since the hunter-gatherers lived long on scavenged meats and pillaged fruits. Also you forget to mention that people are fat from a carbohydrate overdose. Look at the Egyptians as an example of carb overdose, they were a society that had to battle with obesity and heart disease. The eskimos had as high a protein diet as anyone; this is significant because you cite them as an example of why you do not need meat. I think you might have missed the boat on one thing - weight training. That takes protein and makes it work for you. I am cutting milk and dairy out of the diet, but I will just take vitamins and work out to live long, since that is a proven immune booster. Six million ways to die - choose one. I hope to live long, but when God calls me, *it's time.* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Australia Time: 2000-03-31 22:54:08 Comments: Gee, Russ....... Doesn't the Dairy industry want you to believe them so you'll buy all their crap (ie: milk)? (Speaking of stupid.... check your spelling and grammar.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Dr. Gerard Loranger,N.D. Website: zarya Referred by: Signing another Guestbook From: Huntingdon,Quebec, Canada Time: 2000-03-31 00:13:26 Comments: Congratulation for your work. Peace, Lova and Light Gerard Loranger Thank you, Doctor... your comment is much appreciated. Dave Rietz, Webmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Russ Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-03-29 21:50:12 Comments: This sight is stupid. All theese people are trying to do is make you beaiive some of this stuf so that you will buy the book that they wrote and read the rest of there crap Sigh! Yet another "expert" from the pro-dairy camp. Typical lack of honor (not accountable: No valid Email address, no last name, no means to respond... just another "hit and run" gutless wonder). NOTMILK simply presents the facts.... the WHOLE truth. The book is only 317 pages... this web site has over 400 pages... and everything is free, including the 300+ references to support what you choose NOT to read. The only thing "stupid" consist of visitors who have preconceived ideas about cow's milk and dairy.. who chose NOT to read and comprehend what is presented. COW'S MILK=SICKNESS=PREMATURE DEATH ... ALL of the crap falls within your domain. You have chosen to ignore the truth... which, when all is said and done, proves that the eons-old dictum of "survival of the fittest" is still operational. Perhaps this is meant to be the long-term salvation of our Social Security system... by "thinning out the herd". Both Mr. Cohen and I were once great dairy lovers. Armed with all the facts we both decided that cow's milk and dairy was NOT a "taste to die for". Dave Rietz, Webmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-03-26 06:54:45 Comments: Jennifer needs some educating. Perfect food? Yeah, for Calfs. If it IS so perfect, why do they modify it so much? And that essential amino acid bulldust..... what decade is she quoting from? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Susan Roghair Website: Animal Rights Online Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: England/Living in Florida Time: 2000-03-26 00:17:08 Comments: Boby Stagenatesn wrote: Comments: <> What's insane about trying to live your life without causing the suffering and death of others? "God put animals on the earth for us to eat and use as necessary." Genesis 1:29-30 -- And God said, 'Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food. " Milk is an excellent source of calcium and milk has been drunk for many many years" So is greens, tofu processed with calcium sulfate, blackstrap molasses and tahini are excellent sources of calcium. Also, tofu contains more than four times the calcium of cow's milk. All because milk has been drank for many years that doesn't make acceptable. Rape, murder, child abuse and incest has also gone on for many years..........is that okay too? "Personally I drink as much milk a day as I can to make me healthier." Recommended reading: Physician's Guide to Prevention and Treatment of Osteoporosis. All you need to know about osteoporosis! " I also deer, duck, squirrel, rabbit, and goose hunt. I also shoot birds with a shotgun just for the hell of it. " But you don't have to kill to enjoy the joys of life. "I think you need to quit bitching about animal rights because all the rights they have is to be on my dinner table. " Animals do have rights! They have the right to free from exploitation, cruelty neglect and abuse. Is this too much to ask for any living being? Susan Roghair, President Animal Rights Online ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: The Guy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-03-25 23:34:59 Comments: I was just wondering, just exactly how many mental problems you people have. Milk is healthy, meat is good, I like to eat beef and have a nice tall glass of milk while I laugh about how stupid you are. And what about that hole "Got Beer" thing, what don't drink refreshing healthy milk, insted become an alcoholic, kill your brain cells and while you're at it kill some of your peers in a drunk driving accident. Yeah you were thinkin on that one. We don't promote beer (or any alcohol) consumption on the part of anyone. We DO say that in almost all respects... BEER is superior to cow's milk with respect to health. Had you bothered to read anything on the NOTMILK and Hungerstrike web sites... that would have become VERY clear. Not because WE say so... but because more and more in the MEDICAL establishment are saying so. Let me zero in on only ONE item... a powerful growth hormone called IGF-1. Our bodies make a tiny amount for cell maintenance. This hormone is present in EVERY sip of milk and byte of dairy. FDA regulators concluded that genetically engineered milk was safe to drink because hormones in milk could not survive human digestion. The publication of a new peer-reviewed scientific journal article will have people responding to the 'GOT MILK' question by asking: "GOT CANCER?" TIMELINE 1979 Twenty years ago, scientists discovered IGF-I. 1989 Ten years ago, scientists learned that IGF-I was an identical match in the cow's body and the human body. 1994 Five years ago, FDA encountered the biggest controversy in their history by approving the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone known as BGH (aka BST). When that hormone is injected into cows, levels of IGF-I in milk increase by about 80%. 1998 Last year, IGF-I was called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of prostate cancer (Science - January, 1998) and breast cancer (The Lancet - May, 1998). 1999 This year, IGF-I was identified as the key factor in the growth of lung cancer (Journal of the National Cancer Institute - January, 1999). Recently, the Journal of the American Dietetic Association (Page 1231) said this about IGF-I levels in people who drink milk: "Serum IGF-I levels (blood levels) increased significantly in the milk group . . . an increase of about 10% above baseline--but was unchanged in the control group." This blockbuster scientific finding contradicts every major conclusion made by FDA scientists, and sends a chilling warning to ice cream eaters. GO MILK? GOT POWERFUL HORMONES! ********** That is only ONE of the 59 hormones in milk Both Mr. Cohen and myself were once upon a time great lovers of milk and dairy. However, after learning the WHOLE truth... we decided that it was NOT a taste to die for. Perhaps, if you have an open mind ... you will (ultimately) decide the same for yourself. Of the over 40,000 mammals on this planet... ALL of them wean their young from this "emergency nutritional starter-pack" of nutrients, species-specific lactoferrins, immunoglobulins and more. After each and every one of them is WEANED, including human babies from THEIR perfect FIRST FOOD (human breast milk) not a one of them returns to their mother for MORE. Yet... humans have decided that nursing from cow's is... OK. We are what we eat. Over half of Americans are obese (with the numbers still rising) and many are sick and getting more sick. Three glasses of milk a day contain the equivalent cholesterol of NINETEEN slices of bacon. Know any doctors who recommend that much bacon per day? That, Mr. "The Guy", is only the tip of the "MILKberg". The colossal dairy myth that sinks many lives with heart disease, cancer, allergies, diseases, and more. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: The guy Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-03-25 23:24:12 Comments: I like to eat beef, and I drink milk daily! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: John Méndez Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Oregon Time: 2000-03-25 14:44:57 Comments: Good job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kathleen Bentley Website: Super Store Referred by: SimpleNet From: Oxford Mich. USA Time: 2000-03-24 17:18:17 Comments: I would like to have all up dates on this dairy product stuff and any other warnings on anything else we should be aware of. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Lisa Website: Leeko Rocks Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Canada Time: 2000-03-24 10:32:31 Comments: Was just reviewing the last few entries and wanted to let you know how much it infuriates me that people can be so ignorant. I love reading your responses, keep it up pretty please. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kevin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: us Time: 2000-03-24 09:09:01 Comments: Ya you people are a bunch of crackheads!Wake the hell up.Your whole campaign is stupid and incorrect.Oh ya get a life. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Boby Stagenatesn Website: Animals have the right to be on my dinner table Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: out in the boonies Time: 2000-03-23 15:21:18 Comments: I think all animal rights people are insane. God put animals on the earth for us to eat and use as necessary. Milk is an excellent source of calcium and milk has been drunk for many many years. Personally I drink as much milk a day as I can to make me healthier. I also deer, duck, squirrel, rabbit, and goose hunt. I also shoot birds with a shotgun just for the hell of it. I think you need to quit bitching about animal rights because all the rights they have is to be on my dinner table. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Dr. Freud, Thank you for your assessment of the sanity of animal rights advocates. Your opinion is highly valued here. Any man who boasts that he shoots birds "just for the hell of it" should be recognized for the model citizen that he is. You reference God's will, and I hope that you can influence biblical scholars, so that they re-write Genesis 1:29 which states: I give you every seed bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food. God must have been off shooting pigeons, and torturing animals when that verse was written. Thank goodness for Genesis 51:7 which reads: I give you shotguns and NRA cards, so that you may shoot pigeons for sport. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: melissa Website: Melissa's Gifts Boutique Referred by: From a Friend From: NJ Time: 2000-03-21 19:59:44 Comments: when will your new book be in stores? looking foward to it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Boogaloo Website: HerbeGedichte Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Germany Time: 2000-03-21 15:15:52 Comments: I really don't know what to say. I don't drink milk, but I still like yogurt, cheese, and chocolate. Where else should I get my essential B-vitamins, as I don't eat meat? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Susan Roghair Website: Animal Rights Online Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: England/Living in Tampa Florida Time: 2000-03-20 22:39:59 Comments: Jennifer wrote: "One farmer feeds 127 people a year with his products, without us farming families, most of you would starve to death" 90% of the agricultural land in this country is used either directly or indirectly to feed livestock. We actually produce enough food to feed 250 million people. There are over 500 million severely undernourished people in the world, 50 thousand die every day of starvation. It has been estimated in my country that a vegan Britain could be self-sufficient in food on about 25% of the land currently being farmed. "Also remember that the agriculture industry is what gives 50 % of you jobs to go to every morning." The move towards vegetarianism/veganism is a gradual process. As less and less people are employed in the animal-based industries so more and more will find work in the industries that replace them. Some people may well lose their jobs and every effort must be made to find them new employment. But let us not forget that the animals upon whom their jobs are based are losing their lives. Susan Roghair Animal Rights Online ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sandra Bullock at All About Herbs Website: Health Food Referred by: Lycos From: Hillsboro Ohio Time: 2000-03-20 22:43:13 Comments: HI Mr.& Mrs Cohen you are both doing a great job keep it up if you want to put a link to my web site you may my Son Troy is my webmaster he e-mail is webmasteratheresheis.com again I say you are doing a great job thank's for the info Mr Cohen the .cc info is still open like notmilk.cc I am getting about 100 to 200 hits a day on this site and we are on yahoo to thanks again for all the wounderful news and hard work you both have done keep up the good work your friend Sandra Bullock at All About Herbs you would not believe what they are doing to the chickens my son Adam is in Chicago in Collage for computors and the sites he has found on chicken are really bad and how they kill the cows for meat this will be on my website soon I really want the news out their the public does not really know what is going on thanks again hope to see you both soon my Friend ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jennifer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: TEXAS Time: 2000-03-20 20:43:48 Comments: You people are full of crap. These claims are outrageous and just another example of twisting facts to make others come your way. Do you not realize that the exact hormones you are claiming that we get from cattle milk and is causing our society to downfall is produced naturally in our bodies anyway. They are very healthy and when these levels are out of balance severe problems occur. It is also claimed on your website that it is actually causing Calcium to be leeched from the body, it order for this to occur you would have to consume over 1,000 gallons of milk A DAY. What the average consumer drinks in a day will not cause calcium deficiencies in a body. Milk is the perfect food because it is the only food that contains all the essential amino acids that a person needs, no other food can claim that. If all you vegetarian people would stop and think about the effect your words has on the agriculture industry as a whole. One farmer feeds 127 people a year with his products, without us farming families, most of you would starve to death. Also remember that the agriculture industry is what gives 50 % of you jobs to go to every morning. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ben S. Website: Vegetarian Fast Food Exploratory Site Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: New England Time: 2000-03-20 14:11:42 Comments: hello, having been vegan for 8 years, i did not think i needed to know about milk is poison... however, a young friend, whose parents are trying to force to drink milk, asked for help, and i did some research, having remembered meeting mr cohen for a moment at the boston vegetarian festival reading through the book and web site really hit home just how bad milk is. i did not realize it but my former hay fever allergies (have not had them for 8 years) were quite possibly caused by milk / casein now that i know just how bad milk seems to be, i really want to tell people because it seems to be a very serious issue, threatening people's health and lives... i did not know that milk was the possible cause of Flo Jo's Death, but it seems apparent from the information that mr cohen provides on this web site that milk is probably the cause of her death one criticism i have of mr cohen, however, is that he tends to be a bit too emotional in presenting this scientific evidence... most people can figure out for their selves without being yelled at or had their emotions played with... maybe mr cohen is so emotional because he cares, which is a good thing, but it tends to wear on people, i think... also some conclusions he makes are probably correct, but he is either leaving out some minor pertinent information or does not have all the facts... i have a background in science and say this not to hurt mr cohen but to hope that he sharpens his communication and scientific writing skills to more effectively communicate his important message to the world keep up the good work and thank you for your effort to help others ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Russ Harmeyer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: ft wayne in Time: 2000-03-20 12:08:05 Comments: I think this sight is stupid and you have no idea what you are talking about. I am a dairy farmer and a bulk milk hauler and can tell you that none of this is true.I would wright a big page on telling you the truth about the dairy industry but you people are so stupid and brain dead it probably wouldn't do any good.If any one has any questions feel free to e mail me and ill tell you the truth . ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Danika Nieves Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: NJ Time: 2000-03-19 12:05:12 Comments: Hey, I totally agree with your views. Notice how all those "Got Milk" ads are sponsered by the Dairy Farmers of America! Hmmm, what can they get out of people buying milk?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: tim Jupp Website: serve up art Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: all Time: 2000-03-19 02:34:52 Comments: Ran across your book at the local public library, and must admit the title was what struck me. and the library worker as i checked out. some shock. Just amazing to me what I take on faith as a consumer. the unfriendlies lurk behind such a comfortable facade. thanks for mention of this site on the leaf. Ill be contacting my grocer too. Hey the Tillamook creamery has tours what a place to learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Craig Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Time: 2000-03-19 00:35:05 Comments: The one thing I hear while reading the pro dairy comments is that your pro-dairy attitude equals an anti-truth attitude as well. It makes me wonder if these people are dairy workers in disguise trying to hold on to their government subsidies by prepetuating the myth that eating any animal product is healthy. I dare any of you people to present any non-dairy funded peer reviewed scientific evidence that in any way proves a single health benefit from consuming cows milk or milk from any other species on Earth. You'll find only one, that's human breast milk and that's only for infants. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Susan Roghair Website: Animal Rights Online Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: England/Living in Florida Time: 2000-03-18 21:41:07 Comments: M. Gearhart wrote: Sincerely concerned consumer who knows the GOODNESS OF MILK! Dear M. Gearhart, Human beings are the *only* animals on earth who drink the milk of another species. This is not an ancient practice either, we thrived for hundreds of thousands of years without it and in fact it has been estimated that two thirds of the world's population cannot even digest it. Whether you choose to describe our use of animal milk as GOODNESS is irrelevant. The point is that we do not need it and we therefore cannot justify the suffering and death we cause in obtaining it. Susan Roghair Animal Rights Online ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: catnip the mooch Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: canada Time: 2000-03-18 17:28:01 Comments: Hey, that's not my real name as you might be able to tell. It's not even my real e-mail address it's my friends. I'm 14 years of age and I just wanted to say that I'm not vegan I'm vegiterian. This not because of ecological reasons it's because I always thought that the taste of meat was rather nasty and when I acually think about what I'm eating I'm quite disterbed. hmmm is that spelt correctly? Anyway as well as the usual non meat diet I don't eat eggs, fowl or fish 'cause they all taste gross. I also can't really eat that much dairy because I'm lactose intolerant. Dang gotta go do laundry but I love your site. sincerly, Catnip T. Mooch ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: M. Gearhart Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: PA Time: 2000-03-18 11:38:24 Comments: I say AMEN to everything Karen Smith said. Also if your so sure you've got the truth, maybe your the one who need to do more research and OPEN YOUR EYES! I seems to me you have closed your ears and eyes to everything milk has to offer. You have picked upon anything negative you could find about milk and the way its produced and blown it into a huge LIE. You heard me, LIE! Do you have anywhere the education and knowledge of the product that Karen does? Probably not! I'm am truely glad she had the gumption to speak up to jerks like you who pick on innocent people, their occupations and their animals. Sincerely concerned consumer who knows the GOODNESS OF MILK! Sigh... yet another detractor who refuses to be identified. But then... this is a trait shared by those who have no proof of their own. Cow's MILK has NO redeeming characteristics... and the abundant information on notmilk and hungerstrike most adequately proves this as fact... beyond a doubt (very often with references). Even the GOT MILK "moustaches" are fake, which, most appropriately, matches the dairy industry data on thier products. The only "goodness" to cow's milk is "goodness, I've got anther health problem" or, for those who treat those problems "goodness, another boost to the bottom line!" I suspect that you think of the folks who blew the whistle on tobacco as "jerks", too. Both Mr. Cohen and myself learned the WHOLE truth... and decided that cow's milk and dairy was NOT a taste to die for. You have a right to your opinion ... and if you don't mind the problems that stem from its use (a la tobacco)... by all means, use it!. However, we are convinced that, like aspartame and MSG... the public has a RIGHT to know the WHOLE truth... (which is a major reason for our support for truth in labeling), such that they can make up their own minds. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carmen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: world citizen Time: 2000-03-17 12:39:01 Comments: Robert, Have you read "There's Nothing In The Middle Of The Road But Dead Yellow Stripes And Dead Armadillos", By Jim Hightower? This book covers all the atrocities that are happening in our society, with lots of wit & humor. Everything from coorporate corruption, to chemicals,breast cancer, GE food, CJD, etc...almost finished with it. Very colorful Texan language sprinkled in. I get the feeling you might know him? A reading list, or the book of the month review would be a great thing to see on your site. Take care. PS. Jim has a web site, that i will visit today. www.jimhightower.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: PJ Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Omaha, NE Time: 2000-03-16 22:55:27 Comments: Thanks for the great site! Eye-opening and shocking. I'm absolutely furious at the misinformation I've been fed my entire life! I've been buying 4-5 gallons of milk each week for my family of five. No more!! Again, many many thanks for the site!!! I'll be sure to pass the word. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: sarah reynolds Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Ann Arbor, MI Time: 2000-03-16 18:20:10 Comments: Super webiste. I am a dietetics student and I have noticed that many dietitians use a lot of "educational materials" provided by the dairy industry. It annoys me that so many of the people who will soon be my colleagues cannot tell the difference between ADVERTISEMENTS and "educational materials" (not to mention the fact that these materials have little or no citations of scientific journals). The rage with which people react to the truth about dairy is also frusterating. The dairy industry has brainwashed many people. Viva la Resistance! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Brian Barker Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Louisiana, USA Time: 2000-03-16 12:56:50 Comments: I just want to say I love your page! Two months ago I became a vegan and not only has my grocery bill been lowered, so has my pants size! Cutting out all meat and dairy has helped lower my blood pressure to that of an olympic athlete, helped me shave off a few extra pounds (35 to be exact), and I feel better now that I have in all my life. Before I became a vegan, I constantly suffered from chronic fatigue syndrome, severe acne and other problems. Now after cutting out all that crap my acne is gone, I have more energy than I know what to do with and I can even jog now without running out of breath after 5 seconds. I want to thank you for the info on your site! I plan to use some of it to convince my family to stay away from dairy. If anyone is interested in the diet that I'm on, you can read all about it at www.hacres.com. It's AWSOME! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Susan Roghair Website: Animal Rights Online Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: England/Living in Tampa Florida Time: 2000-03-16 06:53:54 Comments: dinkydog@dreamscape.com wrote: << Maybe your and your researchers can tell me why we have canine teeth and our eyes are in the front of our heads like most all predators have? >> Dear Dinky, Some animals have bodies that are specifically designed for meat-eating. Evidence indicates that humans are not one of those animals. One theory suggests that we were originally herbivores (vegetarians), but were forced to start eating meat when the Ice Age made plant food scarce. Today, our reasons for eating meat are primarily psychological. First, meat-eating is simply a habit; it is readily accessible, familiar, and socially acceptable. We consume meat without even thinking. Second, meat is historically associated with affluence; it is more expensive than plant food and was once even reserved for nobility. This mindset persists, not only in this country but across the world. Finally, we are constantly bombarded with propaganda from a meat industry (with a multi-million dollar advertising budget) that implores us to believe that eating meat is "good," "smart," and "healthy." How about the beef industry's slogan, "Beef. Real Food For Real People." Are they implying that I'm less than a real person if I don't eat beef? It sure sounds like it. This type of programming works exceedingly well. Many who have studied the subject conclude that humans are plant eaters by both physical and chemical design. Here are some reasons why: CLAWS: The sharp claws of flesh-eaters help them tear flesh. Humans do not have claws. TEETH: Our teeth are designed for grinding food, not tearing flesh. Flesh-eaters have long, pointed teeth. Adult humans have 20 pre-molars and molars, ideal for grinding grains, versus only four canines, which are pointed. We can only chew flesh that has been ground up or cooked. One theory suggests that the pointed canines of vegetarians are not for food consumption at all, but rather solely for a show of defense. CHEWING: Flesh-eaters chew in an up and down motion, swallowing large chunks of food. Humans and other herbivores chew in a slightly circular motion, which grinds the food. SALIVA: Flesh-eaters have acidic saliva, while humans have alkaline salvia. Unlike flesh-eaters, human saliva contains digestive enzymes that start digesting grains while they're still in the mouth. STOMACH: The stomachs of flesh-eaters contain 10 times the amount of hydrochloric acid as the stomachs of humans and other natural herbivores. INTESTINES: Unlike humans, flesh-eaters have intestines that are straight and short, allowing flesh to pass through without putrefying. Humans have long, convoluted intestines, designed to digest foods through a process of fermentation. Flesh introduced into human intestines putrefies, releasing toxins, before it passes all the way through. METABOLISM: Flesh-eaters are designed to eat high-cholesterol, high-fat, low-fiber diets without harm. This type of diet is harmful to humans. Many other differences between humans and natural carnivores also exist. Two of them are the ways in which we ingest water and the ways in which we cool ourselves. Flesh-eaters drink through lapping and cool themselves through panting. Vegetarians (including humans) drink through sucking and sweat to lower their body temperatures. After studying data on diet and its effects from 6,500 Chinese subjects, a nutritional biochemist from Cornell University, Dr. T. Colin Campbell, concluded: "We're basically a vegetarian species and should be eating a wide variety of plant foods and minimizing our intake of animal foods". Susan Roghair Animal Rights Online ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: MOONKITTY Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Wisconsin Time: 2000-03-15 14:35:47 Comments: if you have a mailing list, please include me :) Those who would like to receive the FREE Dairy Education Board Newsletter can subscribe by sending an EMPTY Email to: notmilk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com (Click the above link to do just that :-) Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Pieter Website: Referred by: Clicked on our Banner Advertisement From: Netherlands Time: 2000-03-15 11:11:32 Comments: A week ago, I read that a child should drink 4 glasses of milk. I'm 13 years old and I started to drink 4 glasses a day on Monday (I was 1 week free from school), I even drank 6 large glasses a day, and I thought I was doing the right. I normally always drink Coca Cola. So I drank and I drank, I could see that I was less aggressive as if I were when I only drank Cola. 6 Days (Saterday) I got sick, I had a temp. of 38.8 Celsius (that's when you're sick in Celsius). On Monday, I started going to school again, but I still didn't really felt good. Tuesday, I had horrible pain in my left ear, like it was pushing my earthing-where-you-hear-with (don't know how to call it in English) away. Next day it was going better but now my right ear had the same!! Now Tuesday the same day I write this, and maybe this has something to do with the milk I drank. I drank like 30 glasses in 5 days, 3 glasses is one bottle, so 10 bottles of milk!! My body responded badly... Regards, Pieter Perhaps the word you are looking for is "tinnitus"? This is a noise or ringing in one or both ears. What you exprienced from your overload of fats, cholesterol, histamine and other allergens, hormones and more... was just the tip of the iceberg. Read on... and you should make even more interesting discoveries. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: James Kendrick Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Earth Time: 2000-03-14 21:31:27 Comments: I enjoyed reading your page it has quite a bit of information in it. I have a few questions though. Maybe your and your researchers can tell me why we have canine teeth and our eyes are in the front of our heads like most all predators have? And why are all vegans(including yourself) that I have met are pale, sickly and are always pulling muscles when they do something physical? I like milk, meat, vegatables and most other foods. I'm waiting to get fat yet, but my weight remains ideal and my cholesteral has been 130 or lower. So eat that! Or ruminate it, or whatever. Oh yeah one last thought. Why do so many varmits have to die to save our vegatables? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear James, I have canine teeth, and cry alligator tears, and have walked pigeon-toed, and my critics have called me a pit-bull. Still, there is no way that my teeth look anything like a mouthful of dog's teeth that were designed to rip raw flesh from another creature. Dog's teeth are sharp and pointy, and most of mine are flat...just perfect for crushing seeds or grain. Why are VEGANS pale and sickly looking? HAHAHA. I recently testified at the USDA dietary guideline conference, and invite you to the next one. The spokesperson from the sugar foundation looked like Humpty Dumpty, and those who represent milk and dairy products step to the podium with inner-tubes under their clothes. On the other hand, you should see the spokesperson from PCRM, Neal Barnard. You should see the spokeswoman from PETA. You would die to have their bodies. Keep eating animal flesh and drinking their body fluids, and you will die from not having a VEGAN'S physique. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mark L Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Arizona Time: 2000-03-14 19:34:29 Comments: The author of the NotMilk web site has absolutely no understanding of the scientific process. It would be interesting to see if in fact milk had damaging side effects on human physiology, but none of the "evidence" presented on that web site can properly be interpreted as such. Shame on you for jumpingto conclusions. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Mark, There are thousands of references from peer-reivewed scientific journals on the NOTMILK site. Your inability to see those references reflects your myopic interpretation of the real science. Compare my evidence to the dairy industry milk mustache ads, and you will conclude that one side of this debate uses fraud and deception as their tool. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Karen Smith Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: MIchigan Time: 2000-03-14 11:57:20 Comments: Dear PETA people, Your information on the dairy industry is ...BULLS**T! I am a fourth generation dairy farmer in Michigan and a dairy science student as well. I would like to clear up a couple of points that you make about milk and cattle. First of all, "are frequently contaminated with pesticides and drugs;" no they are not. How can milk have pesticides in it?? Cows don't eat pesticides. Now if you want to see stuff with pesticides on it try looking at the fruit and veggies that you eat. Drugs..no there are no drugs in milk. If a shipment of milk has any drug or antibiotic residue in it it is automactically dumped. Osteoporosis is caused in women by the lack of natural horomones that occur in the body during and after menopause. As for bone breaks I have never had one bone break and I have played and still play sports. I drink about a gallon of milk a day give or take a pint here and there. If beer is so healthy and good how come you have to be 21 to drink it, beer has no fat...but it has a tendancy to make people fat when consuming large amounts. Beer has no cholesterol but it causes liver disease. " Today's dairy cow is treated like nothing more than a milk machine—chained by her neck in a concrete stall for months," The chains on their neck are for identification and used instead of head gates to keep the cow still while milking. Once the cow is done milking she is released and sent out to eat and get a drink or lay down if she wants. As for the part abouts months...WRONG! " her udders genetically modified to produce so much extra milk that they sometimes drag on the feces- and covered cement." The genetics we used are from artifical inseminating of the animal because it is dangerous to have a live bull on the farm." her male calves are traumatically taken away from her at 1 to 2 days old and chained inside cramped dark crates to be killed for veal. The milk that is meant for them ends up on our supermarket shelves." Whether the calves are male of female they are taken from their mothers...just like human children who are given up for adoption. Not all males are raised for veal most are raised up for beef! Veal are fed only milk so not all of the milk given is sold to the store they get fed the milk. Who cares if the calf is fed with a bottle or off the teat. Human mothers use bottles and replacment milk instead of their own breast milk, you don't piss and moan about that do you....i doubt it! "PETA’s College Action Campaign coordinator Morgan Leyh counsels, "Colleges have been busy banning kegs from campus. But we say, ‘Ditch the dairy, not the beer!’ " " Never in my life have i ever seen a riot started because student had been drinking milk and became drunk, but as a student at Michigan State University I can assure you that riots have been started by drunken students,stundent drunk on beer not milk. I hope that the next person that has a accident in which beer was involved will sue you for everything you have and more. You are just a bunch of ignorant misinformedpeoples who have to much time and money and not enough brains! Sincerely Karen Smith "Peta people?" Your reading skills DO need much improvement! That is your first (of many) errors. "I am a fourth generation dairy farmer in Michigan and a dairy science student as well." Ummm. All THAT means is that you have been exposed to more of the dairy myth than most of us. It is obvious that your "mind is made up", and that you made a conscious decision to exclude most all (of the over 400 WEB pages) of facts that prove our points. We present the facts... but you have proven that this cannot induce anyone to read or comprehend material that conflicts with their preconceived opinions. "No antibiotics"? Two different resources (Consumer Union and the New York Times) tested different milk samples and BOTH showed residue of 52 different antibiotics. Osteoporosis - http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html A LONG TERM study evolving 78,000 nurses flushes your calcium-from-milk theory down the tube. The rest of your standard dairy industry disinformation is readily debunked on our WEB sites, and hundreds more. The truth is posted on www.normilk.com and www.hungerstrike.com ... for all to read, WITH references. The information represents thousands of hours of work but is FREE for the reading. Anyone, including you, is most welcomed to all of it. What you do with knowledge is your decision. Keep on consuming milk and dairy... and as a surprise cancer victim I KNOW you will be keeping me company... sooner than you might deem possible. Cancer sux. It is life-altering, life shortening, and very expensive. The above web sites, along with www.dorway.com on aspartame, and www.truthinlabeling.org on MSG exist to forewarn a clueless public who have been lied to (a la tobacco) for decades. We don't think that is either fair, or ethical, and these web sites exist for those seeking the truth. We hope you will change your mind... and at least do your own homework rather that rely on tainted dairy-industry provided information Mr. Cohen and myself (both once-upon-a-time dairy lovers) have both concluded that cow's milk and dairy is NOT a taste to die for... Dave Rietz, WEBmaster and cancer victim ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Susan Roghair Website: Animal Rights Online Referred by: From a Friend From: England/Living in Tampa Florida Time: 2000-03-13 22:18:15 Comments: Robert Cohen is a powerful and driven individual, uncompromising when and where animal suffering is occurring, devoted and full of empathy, employing sound facts and hard evidence to go up against barbaric callousness and rampant ignorance on the dairy industry. He is fighting the good fight, but more importantly he has reached hardened hearts and minds and seen change occur. And this is what is so crucial in this age...to inspire others to seek out their humanity...to lead them where they have never gone before....to find wrong where it lives....in our souls. Susan Roghair, President of Animal Rights Online ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: dan demaria Website: Referred by: AOL From: new jersey Time: 2000-03-13 20:52:28 Comments: interesting... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: emma-louise danielle jenifer smith Website: sam the man Referred by: From a Friend From: zugazaga island Time: 2000-03-13 19:05:30 Comments: I am only a vegiterian but I really wan't to be a vegan. Unfortunatley I am enimic oh God I can't even spell. Any way this site rocks. oh my God I hate my name ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sammie Jones Website: Got Milk? Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Texas Time: 2000-03-13 18:04:14 Comments: This is all just a big fat load of crap. Excuse the language but I love milk and it helps prevent osteoporosis and a bunch of other bone diseases. If you agree with me, that this site is dumb, then would you please email me. You can go to my site later but it's under construction at the moment. Sorry. I have a message board though. It's at www.coolboard.com/gigglebox911. Peace, love, and milk!! The only "crap" is what you and I were fed for most of our lives. Milk and dairy (like monkey brains, poi and a lot of other "stuff") is an acquired taste. Both Mr. Cohen and I (his webmaster) were once-upon-a-time heavy consumers of cow's milk and dairy products. However, now that we know the WHOLE truth... we have decided that this substance is NOT a taste to DIE for! There is ample proof on both the NOTMILK and Hungerstrike web sites. All we can do is present it... not make you read and comprehend it. We submit that folks who value their health and longevity... will at least read and digest everything available and THEN make up their minds. "Dumb", Sammie Jones, would be in NOT availing yourself of free health related information. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: sammie Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: s.c. Time: 2000-03-13 16:54:32 Comments: Thank you! I wondered why my asthma was getting worse! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Tutu Website: Whistleblowers Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: US Time: 2000-03-13 12:52:37 Comments: Great site! Need more people like you.. For some more whistleblowers stories visit: http://whistleblowers.freehosting.net Cheers! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: noooga Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: israel Time: 2000-03-13 10:50:36 Comments: WELL DONE !!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rachel Website: Vampyrfreak's Vegan World Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Christchurch, New Zealand Time: 2000-03-13 05:35:21 Comments: FANTASTIC site!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love it!!!!!!!!!! I've only just started setting up my website - but I have already added links to yours - why don't you come and have a look? Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Shirley Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Time: 2000-03-12 18:34:22 Comments: Excellent reading.There are so many hidden properties in our foods that I have always felt were instrumental in causing cancer, etc. It is not good to take things for granted just because we know no different. I am eager to learn all I can in hopes that my grandchildren can have a better chance of having a healthy, productive adulthood. learn, in hopes that my grandchildren can have a better chance of having a healthy, productive adulthood. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Catherine Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Mobile Ala. Time: 2000-03-12 11:50:24 Comments: Your web site is wonderful, I tell everyone about it. I never drank milk as a child or as an adult and of course everyone thought I was weird. Now it is good to know I have some support and facts to fall back on. I never buy milk anymore for my kids we put soy milk on cereal. I think in the years to come there will be more to find out about cow's milk and what it has done to so many people's bodies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ashton Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Indiana Time: 2000-03-10 17:45:35 Comments: This isnt really something to be teaching kids.Osteoperosis people!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kimmie Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Michigan Time: 2000-03-10 08:25:49 Comments: I've known forever, having asthma that milk (and dairy) contribute to ferocious attacks. I can't give up my Ben&Jerrys, but detest milk and only use 1% on cereal. Ummm... ONE percent! This means that since they have reduced the fat content from 3.25% to 1% they have also reduce the fats and cholesterol (and the "stuff" they contain) but you get MORE of the hormones! Here is a chart calories and other goodies: ONE HUNDRED GRAM PORTION (3 1/2 OUNCES) CALORIES CHOLESTEROL GROWTH HORMONES WHOLE MILK = 3.25% FAT 61 13.6 mg yes 2% MILK = 2.00% FAT 49 7.5 mg yes SKIM MILK = 0.00% FAT 35 1.8 mg yes BEER = 0.00% FAT 41 0.0 gh no (comparison only) LIGHT BEER = 0.00% FAT 28 0.0 mg no (comparison only) WATER = 0.00% FAT 0 0.0 mg no <=== best choice! OF note is that they typically use SKIM milk to fatten pigs for market. Those powerful hormones DO work! Ben and Jerry's???? OOPS! Check out http://www.junkscience.com/nov99/bjpress.htm for their dioxin-filled toxic treats. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Nan Taska Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Plymouth, Ma Time: 2000-03-10 06:27:46 Comments: Mr Robert, in this election year, I am going to write your name in for my vote for President. FDA/Codex and all have not stopped you, as I know it would not. The American people need that one person to respond to the good of all, and you are IT. Like that, IT. IT runs around making the world a better place. The Monsanto world should call you IT. Hear that Monsanto!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carmen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: earth citizen Time: 2000-03-08 05:57:32 Comments: Robert, Alimentarus, is latin for food or something that nourishes. Took educated guess since in spanish Alimento is food. Alma is soul, something nourishing the soul. (figure in latin it's close.) So it's "soul food"? Just kidding. Can't help you on the Codex thing. Plese read The Nation this week March 20 Title: THE SECRET HISTORY OF LEAD "Special Report, How General Motors, Standard Oil, & DuPont colluded to make & market gasoline containing lead-a deadly poison-although there were safe alternatives. Abetted by the US government, they surpressed scientific knowledge that lead kills. Still sold in countries all over the world,leaded gasoline continues to poison the planet." This coincides w/recent article i read saying that the EPA has raised the allowable amount for lead in our childrens blood stream to over %600 per cent of what historically man has had. Interesting, seems our fed gov. has their hands in everything. GOOD LUCK IN JAPAN NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: The FDA Giveth (heartburn) and the FDA taketh away (herbal remedies for heartburn). Monsatan has exerted enormous pressure on FDA, and my invitation to CODEX has been revoked. Who pays my non-refundable planefare, and room deposits? Moi. Who ultimately pays for the FDA arrogance, lack of integrity, and fraud? Sadly...the American people. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Joseph Austin Website: To Be Announced Referred by: From a Friend From: North Easton, Massachusetts Time: 2000-03-08 03:16:29 Comments: What an eye opener! Are their any rebuttals directed at your findings? I would be interested to see if anyone could discount your information. It never hurts to get an honest interpretation of both sides to a story. I'm not saying that I don't believe you, I would just like to see someone try to prove otherwise. You seem very thorough and I doubt anyone could prove otherwise. Thank you for doing the dirty work for everyone that just takes for granted that we are being properly taken care of by the Government. I always felt that the Government was inefficient but I really had no idea they were blatantly trying to kill us!!! Population control perhaps.... Who do they think they are ?!!!? Mr. Cohen has a standing offer to debate in any fair forum. No takers! Perhaps one of the best things you can do is use a bit of common sense. Then... do check out a recent dairy industry funded study that backfired on them (both barrels!) THE DAIRY INDUSTRY SELF-DESTRUCTS Regards, Dave Rietz, WEBmaster. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Melody McIntyre Website: Carolina Online Referred by: Geocities From: Rockingham Time: 2000-03-05 06:57:37 Comments: I have enjoyed visiting your website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Cindy Website: Referred by: AOL From: CT. Time: 2000-03-05 06:54:53 Comments: Thank you for being there for me and my daughter we can not have to much dairy now we can in the way of soy goods. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kate Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: USA Time: 2000-03-05 01:12:50 Comments: I have been trying to tell my friends for quite some time that milk is harmful. They never listen...maybe if I send them this page, they will know! Great page!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sara Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: O'Fallon IL Time: 2000-03-04 23:30:16 Comments: Your website was a website of the day on TipWorld. Thank you so much for putting up this site! I have been trying to convince everyone I know that milk is poison. No other animals in the world drink milk after they have matured, why do we? Thank you for providing the evidence I need to support my own little anti-milk campaign. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Elizabeth Farians Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Cincinnati Time: 2000-03-04 20:20:53 Comments: thanks for the good work, especially for the animals remember the kiss in Cincinnati ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Angelique Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: North Carolina Time: 2000-03-04 18:51:47 Comments: It is very interesting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Louis McIntosh Website: Ask Jeeves Referred by: NewsGroups From: Oklahoma Time: 2000-03-04 18:42:40 Comments: Personally I hate milk myself, The only way I can stand it is Chocolate milk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Candice Blanco Website: The Blanco's Referred by: From a Friend From: Utah Time: 2000-03-04 09:36:51 Comments: About 4 years ago my sister told me that cows milk was not meant for humans. I laughed, of course it was. Everyone says it is. A year ago I gave birth to my daughter and began to study the wonders of breast milk. That sparked my interest in milk. Were we as humans ment to have the milk of another animal? For Christmas I got the book "Milk - The Deadly Poison" and am now a true beliver. What a great book. Anyone that takes the time to study this subject will truly see the light. My 13 month daughter will not, nor has she ever had cows milk (we are working on cutting out all dairy, its too bad that I like chez so much) I feel that the milk God is helping my body produce is perfect for my daughter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Martha Hughes Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Nashville, TN Time: 2000-03-04 07:46:10 Comments: Got you from an e-mail ad! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Todd Strickland Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Santa Monica, Ca Time: 2000-03-04 04:25:49 Comments: great site, I will recommend it to friends as a site to check out. thanx. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Joni Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Northern California Time: 2000-03-04 02:35:29 Comments: Found you through Marie Oser information, she refers to your site for soy milk machine info. She can be found via vegsource.com. I've been a lacto-vege for 25 years, two months ago, along with the big 2000, I gave up dairy products and lost almost 30 pounds, I've never felt better, and my family is totally supportive so they've given up dairy too. Now all I need to do is get cracking on alternative recipies for old favorites like cottage cheese. By the way, Vegan Action has a great T-shirt (Black w/white print) "SoyMilk?"....in response to all those "got milk" advertisings. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Cheri Anderson Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Chicagoland Time: 2000-03-03 22:55:54 Comments: I went vegetarian in 1987 and have never felt better. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: jeanie Website: Referred by: Net Search From: sarasota, florida Time: 2000-03-02 10:26:15 Comments: My frequent headaches stopped when I gave up milk & dairy products.....Plus, I shed 20 lbs! WhooHoo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: ECho Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Idaho Time: 2000-03-01 22:30:26 Comments: I had no idea that milk was that bad I don't drink lots of it though I only drink 1% NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: A one-hundred gram portion (3 1/2 ounces) of 1% milk and whole milk have the same amount of protein, and differ in fat content by about only two grams. Both the whole and 1% milk contain pus, hormones, and glue (casein). Let me know when the dairy industry removes those ingredients, and I'll give milk my seal of approval. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jim Website: Belleville library Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Belleville, N.J. Time: 2000-02-29 19:47:10 Comments: Please refer to www.cancerbusters.com for the story of Thomas Navarro a 4 year old boy whose parents want to give him alternative treatment for cancer. The FDA is blocking this treatment insisting that Thomas undergo chemo & radiation therapy. This is insane! The parents should have the right to give Thomas the non-toxic antineoplastons therapy without the toxic chemo & radiation barbaric therapies which only destroy the immune system. Please write or E-mail your congressman and two senators and President Clinton and put pressure on them to allow the freedom to have this alternative treatment allowed. Please also ask them to support the Access to Medical Treatment Act (S-l955) in the Senate and (HR-2635) in the House. This act will allow parents and anyone else to choose the medical treatment they want without the FDA dictating the treatment. The FDA should be purged of all the scoundrels that are there approving toxic drugs that cause deaths of thousands while disapproving non-toxic natural alternative therapies that have been proven to work. Other countries are way ahead of the United States in using natural therapies to treat cancer and other diseases. The big pharmaceutical companies in their greed will fight any natural remedies that threatens their bottom line. Read the book "World Without Cancer" for additional information on how the FDA banned laetrile or vitamin B-l7, a natural substance that attacks the cancer cell while actually nourishing the normal cells. Also support the Fresh Fields Super Markets which provide organic foods that don't contain growth hormones, antibiotics, pesticides that milk and other conventional foods contain. It's up to you folks! If you don't take some action to fight corruption in government, it can only get worse and the 550,000 people scheduled to die, (or should I say executed by the FDA) because they could not get alternative treatment, will continue to suffer from the agony of chemotherapy and radiation treatments and die a painful death. We don't even treat our death row inmates that way when they are executed. If anyone from the FDA reads this, don't forget God will judge you for what you have done to deceive the people and cause deaths unless you change your ways and begin to tell the truth. Release the information in the Richard, Odaglia & Deslex study and do something for your country!!! God have mercy on you if you refuse to change your ways or as the Bible says "repent". Stop the American holocaust now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jennifer Guagliardo Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Mississippi Time: 2000-02-27 12:13:19 Comments: Great page & great info.! Please put me on any mailing lists. Thanks! Jenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Susan Roghair Website: Animal Rights Online Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Tampa Florida Time: 2000-02-27 09:08:08 Comments: I can say with sincerity that after hearing Robert Cohen speak at the Gainesville Vegetarian Conference last week I know of his commitment, his dedication and his desire to be a spokesperson for animals in society! Bravo Robert on such a superb and eduational book! Know that I am selecting it as my Book Pick of the Week very soon, advertising it to the Internets largest online Animal Rights list, Animal Rights Online! For all you do, I am veganly grateful! Susan Roghair - President Animal Rights Online P O Box 7053, Tampa, Fl 33673-7053 http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/1395/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jim Website: Belleville library Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Belleville, N.J. Time: 2000-02-25 20:31:06 Comments: In addition to the book "World Without Cancer" by G. Edward Griffin everyone should read the book "Essiac - A Native Herbal Cancer Remedy" by Cynthia Olsen. You can also go to www.philsteinberg.com for more information on Essiac tea and other cancer fighting supplements. Thankfully this tea is available in the U.S. The FDA hasn't gotten their bloody hands on Essiac tea yet but give them time and they will probably try to ban that too unless the public stands up against them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Michael Exarhos Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Miami FL, Time: 2000-02-25 20:11:05 Comments: Keep up the good work ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jeaaica Lang-Jones Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Orlando,FL. Time: 2000-02-25 03:43:33 Comments: Want to receive more information. Send a blank EMAIL message to: notmilk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carmen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: world citizen Time: 2000-02-24 09:34:37 Comments: Why are mothers weaning their kids so early & then whining about the problems they have with formula? Robert, a child needs human milk, way past the ONE year stage. La Leche League now recomends ONE year, World Health Organization now TWO. These are MINIMAL recomendations. (I think these will be increased with time) Healthy is the baby that nurses till one, lucky is the baby that nurses till two. Actually, I have read human infants were meant to nurse till 4 or 5. Of course in our society this is taboo. In China, i am sure as in many other societies, it is common. I read an evolution book about the bones found of a primitive primate. It is very closely related to man, in same subfamily, now extinct, called Autralopithecus. They named her "LUCY". She breast fed her infants till 4 or 5 years old. This also helped to space her children apart. For mankind i have read that the natural spacing is about 7 years. Some American Indians, had 4 year bans on sexual relationships after the birth of the baby. Makes evolutionary sense. This would give the mother the 3-4 year time she would need to properly take care of the child. Since many were nomads you could not exactly be taking care of more than one baby at a time. A plus for their survival. Now from what I see of my neighbors they "unzip" one baby every year & a half. This biologically is too stressful on the mother & on rest of children. No wonder there are so many problems & natural child birth has gone out the window. Imagine spacing kids apart 4 or 5 years so they can wean without pressure? Some kids do decide to wean earlier, but then it is their desicion, not the mothers. Contrary to popular belief, nothing on earth can make a child nurse when he does not want to & his body tells him it is weaning time. Some are long term & some short, very individual. So the question is not so much, are you still breast feeding? But rather, is he/she still wanting to nurse? A big difference!! Mother nature has set up everything real nice, we just have to be smart enough to leave it alone. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mary Ann Starr Website: Referred by: Lycos From: St Louis MO Time: 2000-02-23 21:23:54 Comments: GREAT site! I got so much info from you. Thanks!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jim Website: Belleville library Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Belleville, N.J. Time: 2000-02-22 21:54:27 Comments: The criminal activity of the FDA is not only involved in milk hormones. I would recommend everybody read the book "World Without Cancer" by G. Edward Griffin. It tells the story of vitamin B-l7 or laetrile which is found in apricot seeds, apple seeds, etc. Remember Steve McQueen the actor? Back in l980 he had to go two Mexico to be treated for cancer with laetrile because the FDA would not allow its use in the USA. The newspapers reported that he died because laetrile did not work. According to this book, he actually died from a complication from an operation to remove a non-cancerous tumor in his abdomen that was causing a bulge. He wanted it removed for cosmetic reasons. As far as I am concerned the FDA is a criminal organization guilty of not only of deception and conspiracy but of murder because of the millions of people who have died because they could not be treated by a natural substance that has been proven successful other countries. Some of the so-called doctors in the conventional medical establishment are also guilty of murder because they deliberately suppress the truth of studies that have proven the success of laetrile. Mr. Cohen is one of the few heroes of our time who is willing to risk his life to expose the truth about bovine growth hormone. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Matthew Website: NA Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: New Hampshire Time: 2000-02-22 03:23:11 Comments: I like Milk. I hate Milk. Whats the difference, can't we just all be friends? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Matthew, I'm confused. You hate milk. You like milk. There seems to be two Matthews inside of you. Thank goodness AOL offers alternate aliases. I am hopeful that during the next few years of therapy the two of you can be friends. Good luck, Matt. Take care, Matthew. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: p. Scott Putnam Website: test Referred by: From a Friend From: Boise, Id. Time: 2000-02-21 21:14:07 Comments: My daughter has been and athlete and is 20 ready to get married. She has two breast tumors. We have been a low meat household but heavy on dairy products. Having lost my dad to colon cancer and the establishment I am hopeful of changing the outcome for her. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ash Brady Website: All for Animal Liberation Referred by: NewsGroups From: Liverpool, New York Time: 2000-02-20 10:29:31 Comments: Hi guys! Its great that we are all trying to get together and fight for animal rights and Its very hard with peoples tactics and egotistical ways, but as long as we can stick together and fight together then we can at least help a little with getting our society or even nation to listen and so i think we are obligated to educate them! *ALL 4 VEGAN!* NOTMILK is more "human rights" than anything. In particular, the right to know what is on their dinner table, and if it is not appropriate, why not. Cow's milk and dairy has NO redeeming qualities as a human "food". None! The calcium aspect is perhaps the best example of the dairy industry disinformation. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Dawn E Phillips Website: None Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Palm Beach Gardens, Florida Time: 2000-02-19 19:19:55 Comments: I have read "Milk The Deadly Poison" and have met Mr. Cohen during one of his lectures in Rochester, New York. My family was already vegan before reading Mr. Cohen's book but his information further reinforced our views. I just came to the web site to check it out before suggesting it to a friend who needs information on kicking the milk habit. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Geoff Brewer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Devizes Wiltshire UK Time: 2000-02-19 04:14:41 Comments: Written to FDA Dockets about this Robert and raise it at every opportunity in the UK, trying to get the UK media interested. Thanks for the copy of your excellent book. Can you suggest anything we can do in the UK to support you? Blessings, - Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Lucy Z. Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Toronto Time: 2000-02-17 06:51:40 Comments: I just want to ask about non dairy supplements for babies. She was breast fed for 8 months. She's now 1 year old and can't digest any milk products, nor soy or rice milk. Help? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Lucy, How many infants have osteoporosis? How many teens have osteoporosis? How many women under the age of 40 have osteoporosis? You child has teeth. Congratulations. It is now time for her to eat solid food. She does not require body fluids from other animals to maintain good health. Nor does she need substitutes. Teach her that there are 40 fruits and 40 vegetables in your supermarket. Give her the gift of fresh juices from those fruits. The largest study in the history of woman-kind is ongoing at Harvard University. Scientists have learned that women who consume a lot of milk as teens grow up to have sinificantly higher rates of forearm and pelvic fractures than non-milk drinking females. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Tammy Perrin Website: vegan_rights Referred by: From a Friend From: Florida Time: 2000-02-16 21:54:36 Comments: I have been a vegan for more than three years now, and this site is an excellent source for facts to share with friends. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kraeg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Down Under Time: 2000-02-15 16:15:21 Comments: We all know what pill Juleah HAS swallowed. Actually, I should say PILLS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: BOB CHUA Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: SINGAPORE Time: 2000-02-15 13:44:28 Comments: My wife and son had just cleared up the fridge of all the milk and milk products after realising the fact!! We have been drinking milk all this while not knowing the destruction it causes.thanks to notmilk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Dulcy Jenkins Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Alhambra, CA Time: 2000-02-14 23:10:04 Comments: We should treat animals with respect, and quit using them for our voracious appetites! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Rhonda Hatch Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Houston, Texas Time: 2000-02-09 08:07:25 Comments: I would like to get your daily messages. My three year old son and I have been dairy free for almost a year. We eat only free range chicken and fish for meat, and all the veggies we can stand. My son drinks rice milk, I drink soy. I really enjoy your website. People have got to be told the truth about what the Government is feeding them. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Rhonda, Please visit the hungerstrike.com website. I keep a daily diary which you might enjoy reading. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Sarah Gross Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Shreveport, LA. Time: 2000-02-09 04:37:47 Comments: great webpage! Everybody should be a vegan! Must stop the suffering! Let the animals be free and happy again! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carmen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: world citizen Time: 2000-02-09 02:32:08 Comments: Juleah, GET REAL, Robert publishes everyone's comments. Why don't you go back & read past entries & you will discover very many hostile pro milk points of view. You have not even taken the time to understand the IGF-I argument. Consider buying his new book. I just met a woman vet. the other day, we actually spoke the same language. She understood the word growth hormones, & their implications. A concept over your head. Now for another joke. Here in Cincinnati Ohio, at a major intersection near my house, every day during the lunch hour four police officers direct traffic, in & out of the Wendies & Burger King. They stand in the main street, no matter the temperature, & stop the MAIN flow of traffic so the folks that want junk food & eat garbage can help themselves. They are usually drinking a soda(probably diet) with the name of the fast food establishment. All i can think of is, my tax dollars are going to pay for those FOUR police officers, (sometimes six on holidays), to facilitate the fast food agenda. I get furious. I do not see them lined up at the health food store, so i can exit easier. Maybe i should ask? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Elizabeth Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Minnesota Time: 2000-02-09 01:53:35 Comments: I found your web site to be very interesting!! I have been a vegetarian for almost 7 years now and have been thinking of going vegan. The information on this web site was very helpful in my decision! I think it is great that there are web sites like this out there for people to finally know the truth about meat, and animal products. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Daniel Jahn Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Brazil Time: 2000-02-05 09:40:12 Comments: My name is Daniel and I'm a student of Nutrition (third year) from Brazil and your site is really a very interesting source of information on this subject. It was especially fun reading the Juleah's comment on your milk site because Juleah doesn't seem to have read anything and is just trying to prove her opinion or common sense on milk, well she has a Major in agriculture and that should explain her lack of Scientific and Chemistry knowledge as she reminds me of priests from the middle ages trying to hold the argument that earth was still and the sun was orbiting it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Juleah Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: New York Time: 2000-02-05 03:24:28 Comments: Hi. I was referred to your website by a friend who was completely outraged. After exploring your site for a while, I can see why. As a college student majoring in agriculture, I have had a decent amount of exposure to and experience in the dairy industry. I was, quite frankly, astonished at the information you provided on your website. And congratulations, by the way - if I had been an uninformed visitor, I would have believed every word you fed me. I consider myself lucky to be able to say that I didn't. And, I'd like to hope that other people would take the opportunity to learn more about the issue, OUTSIDE of your website, so they can at least make up their own minds. I still have the utmost confidence in the American Dairy Industry, I believe in their ability and intentions to supply the public with the highest quality goods for affordable prices. Milk provides you with numerous vitamins and minerals necessary for your daily life. It provides calcium - which is crucial to bone strength among other things. One of your guestbook entries mentioned that although they drank 1 1/2 gallons of milk a week their doctor still said they didn't get enough calcium. This could be simply because the person didn't exercise enough - in order for calcium to be absorbed by your body (whether it's in the form of milk or a supplement) you must be active. The USDA and FDA are two organizations that are doing their job in securing the safety of the American public. Any food out on the market has met their standards - standards that have been tested again and again to assure they are of the utmost quality. If someone is lactose intolerant they shouldn't drink milk - that is apparant in your research - but what about the plethora of people who are NOT intolerant? The benefits they are receiving far outweigh the risks. A risk that is unspoken in your website includes that of what the economy would be like WITHOUT the dairy industry. Agriculture is crucial to state and national economies - in most states it ranks withing the top 5 industries of the state. I understand that this posting isn't exactly the "way to go, thanks for warning me" commentary you expected. It may make you angry that I didn't swallow the pill you fed me - in fact, I don't even expect this posting to be published. I noticed that most of the postings in your guestbook are positive and reassuring, and I know mine isn't in favor of your opinion. It would obviously be easier to simply delete my entry than to defend the questions I've raised - and I understand that. If you DO choose to publish this, I fully expect you to try to rip apart my points, like you have with anyone else who has tried to raise their voice against yours. And that is fine, because your website is not a democracy, and it isn't required to be. So, even if you are the only person to read this, I hope you understand that not everyone will simply take what you say as the complete and total truth. And, having that said, I will resign myself to the many other entries that were simply deleted when their content was found not to support your website's point of view. I'll resign myself to being one of the many other people who have tried, as you claim to, to show people the other side of the issue. I'll accept this for what it will probably be, a single voice that is so feared for what it represents it will simply be erased. Thank you for your time of even reading this, even it is simply to be deleted, at least it will be in good company. Sincerely, Juleah ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Kevin Dunn Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Vermont Time: 2000-02-04 18:28:59 Comments: A great site with terrific information. Thanks for being here!!! Keep up the great work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Denise Tandsater Website: DynInTherapy.com Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Glencoe, MN Time: 2000-02-04 03:10:57 Comments: I heard Robert Cohen as a guest speaker on a local radio program. The station is KSTP am 1500 Mpls/St.Paul. I was intrigued with all the information he gave in a way too short time. I've been health-oriented for some time and found this not milk info to tie in nicely with my beliefs and practises. Thank you so much for spreading the word! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: O'Hara Forrestal Website: The Sterile Vegan Referred by: From a Friend From: Bellingham Time: 2000-02-03 10:05:23 Comments: When I was in grade school my mother was doing research at the University of Wisconsin uncovering the truth about the detrimental effects of consuming dairy products, hearing all about it from my mother, I would try to explain to my friends about its ill effects on human health, and remember very specifically being laughed at and essentially ostracized for upholding that point of view. The chastizing I suffered from teachers and students alike was so severe that I eventually stopped talking about it. It didn't occur to me then what the cause of my fierce rejection was, but now understanding the power of the dairy industry and its influence in public schools, it has become increasingly important for me to express, to other parents whose children might be exposed to similar situations, why it is necessary to warn, and arm your children, lest they turn and reject that most vital piece of information in light of public sentiment and peer pressure. Thank you for being aware. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: C.E.R. Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: ohio Time: 2000-02-02 06:29:08 Comments: If we all would step back for a minute and look at the big picture we are nothing but victims of money "greed" primarily with the asses in the "FDA". All our food is contaminated. I visited a web site www.dorway.com which I highly recommend people to visit. It talks on aspartame and monosodium glutamate. Unreal what the excitoxins/neurotoxins are doing to us, then that damn "FDA" has the nerve to say herbs are dangerous and vit. c causes cancer, no actually it will keep you from the visiting the pharmacy (money loss) and I can speak on that from a personal experiance. Imagine this combination a glass of milk with pus, a bag of chips with msg and a cup cake with aspartame= suicide. I think we as tax paying U.S. citizens should overthrow the "FDA" it may save our lives....... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: ZoeViva Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Canterbury, England Time: 2000-02-02 01:26:49 Comments: A couple of years ago there was an aluminium 'scare' about soya milk. It was mainly to do with baby soymilk, but I as an adult am just as concerned. Aluminium is used as a 'fining' agent to clear water when it is being cleaned before it comes through our taps. It can also be found in cooking raising agents, and I understand tea leaves contain high amounts. Now I am REALLY concerned because so much chemical gunk is going into all our food. In England, some counties (like mine, Kent) do not have sodium fluoride - a waste product of the aluminium industry - in their water;. the British government is considering forcing ALL water authorities to put fluoride in water. Now this water fluoride will be added to our soya milk aluminium, and the water used in soy milk production may itself be fluorided, in addition to the aluminium that the growing beans soak up from the soil when they are growing . . . you get my drift?! Is our only answer to make our own soya milk from bottled pure water? Give up soya milk altogether? Or is all this too too pernickety?? (Your notmilk website is BRILLIANT by the way.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: CARMEN Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-02-01 18:40:00 Comments: THE BABY TEST The ultimate proof of our bodies inability to tolerate milk is to observe the new born. They do not lie & have no political agendas. When my baby was born, he had an infection that required hospitalization & antibitotics. He was fed formula, against my will. I wanted to give him the colostrum that i was pumping, but i was told by the nurses, (sit down for this one)....to "THROW IT AWAY since it was not Real Milk".(Frankfurt University Hospital, Germany). My child looked bloated, red, puffy, & was gaining too much weight, plus he spit up constantly & smelled awful. Having so many antibiotics & formula was hard on his body. After the first week i demanded to start breast feeding. His color changed, he lost weight, stopped spitting up, & he smelled much better. They were supposed to feed him breast milk at night, which i left, but i know they fed him formula, since it was much faster & easier. The proof was in the pudding so to say. Breast milk is almost all digested, whereas formula is not, plus the diapers stink alot worse. So i knew they fed him formula about 80% at night. Probably threw breast milk away. My mom who bottle fed both of us, kept saying he did not have that baby smell! That "baby smell" was that of rotting formula. The only time a breast fed baby spits up is when the mother eats something the baby has a difficult time digesting. In my case it was chocolate, only then he would spit up. How many times do i see bottle fed babies spitting up half of their formula, that is considered normal! If a breast fed baby would do this the mother would worry that there was something wrong. So observe your baby since we have alot to learn from them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Melissa Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Illinois Time: 2000-01-30 07:08:46 Comments: I've been a vegetarian for about 4 1/2 years now. I gave up milk and dairy products three years ago, I just didn't have a taste for them anymore. I switched to soy milk instead. Now, having read your book (and looking forward to the next) I realize I made a very smart decision! I have loaned out my copy of Milk: The Deadly Poison countless times. Thank you for caring and for actually doing something about this nightmare situation! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Russ Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Ohio Time: 2000-01-28 23:06:50 Comments: great ideas-if you have a mailing list, please put me on it. thanks Russ You got it! :-) Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: HORTON Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-01-28 04:04:41 Comments: Robert, Thank you for your honesty, and the clarification. Life is a long & we learn along the way. I was just really surprised, and then confused. Can you update part of the book, or make a revised printing? The problem is people without internet acess, might still hear the "old message", & after so much effort I think it would be a shame. Glad to see you are feeling better. Maybe make reference to this on your site somewhere so people who buy book for others, can relay new message. The follow-on book is called "Elsiesfable", is about twice as thick, and will be out soon. See the cover at http://www.elsiesfable.com Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Ally Website: Ally Referred by: From a Friend From: Ohio Time: 2000-01-28 02:29:25 Comments: Ok...let me get this straight. You don't want us to drink milk because its harmful to us, the enviroment, cows, etc.? Then why have we been doing it for centuries? Ally at ally.com? That is real interesting considering that your IP address 209.115.70.213 IS in Ohio... but it belongs to American Febo Enterprises. There IS an ally.com but that is way out in Las Vegas. A friend you are not, and honesty does not seem to be your forte. OK... now for your comment. Milk has been the SOURCE of emergency food reserves (butter and cheese) for several hundred years... but only by scattered groups of people in a few countries. Back then there was no pasteurization, no refrigeration, and no mass transportation. Whatever was left over after feeding the newborn calf was collected... and quickly churned into butter. Only small amounts could be collected, and it was made into butter and cheese and stored away in cellars before it could turn rotten. For the most part it was use as emergency food stock (high in energy ladened FAT) for cold hard winters. Butter, you should know, IS 100% fat. Whole milk has 3.5% fat... which constitutes 49% of the calories in milk. The misleading 2% milk has fat that provides around 35% of the calories. The dairy cow of today is kept lactating for the greater part of a year (vice a couple of months) and through consuming bathtubs of water and lots of cheap feed (all too often made up of grain scraps, blood from their ancestors and other critters, and chicken dung). Farmers who don't use Monsanto's Posilac growth hormone shot (less then half, now) have cows that produce up to TEN TIMES what the cow created a hundred years ago... and those that get the shot increase that 40 quarts to up to 55 quarts a day. That means more infections (and more antibiotics to control them), more blood and pus in the milk, up to 80% more of that powerful growth hormone called IGF-1... fingered as being a KEY factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of cancers. And, of course, the cow "burns out" much faster. If you check the stats you will discover that few of the 180+ countries consume much milk. Japan didn't, until after we concurred them.... and now the have similar problems like us... including earlier sexual maturity, taller, fatter, and with zits. According to WHO (World Health Organization) 95% of black in the world are lactose intolerant, and around 53% of Latinos are intolerant. That says a lot! The white race came from the few countries that have used some milk, butter and cheese for centuries... and they have evolved with a tolerance to the many problems that come from ingesting cow's milk. Dave Rietz, WEBmaster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: HORTON Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-01-27 08:32:13 Comments: I mean what i said And I said what I meant... An elephant's faithful ONE HUNDRED PER CENT! 1998 "... I add a little Parmesan cheese...put mozzarrella on our chicken....sour cream for vegtable or onion dip when we entertain....buy a pint of ice cream for the girls...spread cream cheese on our bagels." NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Horton, You were the 'Dr. Seuss' elephant who hatched an egg and became parent to a little bird. Not only did I hatch an egg, but I laid one too, and now I have a bit of egg on my face! When I wrote "MILK-The Deadly Poison" I occasionally used milk products as a condiment. Telling the truth may be perceived as a mistake to some people , but it reflected where I was in 1997 when that passage was written. If anything, it reflects how difficult it is to give up delicious tasting pus with hormones and glue. Today I eat absolutely no dairy products. I eat no meat, and I eat no eggs! We all are on a journey, continuing to learn. Those who stop learning, and stop changing, are the ones who die before they are 'born.'. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: jessie Website: goat milk Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-01-27 07:54:07 Comments: What about goat milk? Is it as bad as taking cow's milk? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Jessie, Goat's milk is the perfect drink for baby goats. Goat's milk contains hormones and proteins that are allergenic to humans. Drink human breast milk, dog's milk, and pig's milk, ok? Now, wouldn't that be silly? Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Alithia Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: World Citizen Time: 2000-01-24 19:25:32 Comments: Q:I was told by a government doctor expert in the field of CJD, (I do not know his qualifications) that "infectious prion protein can be inactivated under proper conditions by soaking instruments in household clorox for 30 mins followed by boiling for 30 mins;treatment with 1N sodium hydroxyde and autoclaved;and other methods." Is this true? That easy? Other articles i have read address the difficulty of sterilization of instruments. Also, on page 282 of your book, you mention Carleton Gajdusek. Can you tell us more about him? Is he out? Could he verify the above statment? Thank you, & eat low on the food chain. NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Alithia, PRIONS (the infectious agents responsible for CJD or Mad Cow Disease) can be passed from cow to human in bone meal (careful about working that spade in your garden). These infectious protein particles cannot be destroyed by 1000 degree heat. PRIONS can also be found in the flesh of infected animals. Be sure and ask the Burger King chef to sterilize his spatula! PRIONS are also contained within the body fluids of infected animals. Do they sterilize plastic spoons at Ben & Jerry's? Be on the safe side! Adult tofu creatures do not pass on PRIONS to their tofu children or to humans. As for Gadjusek, he was wrongly imprisoned, served his jail time in a federal prison, and now lives in Europe. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: wendy K Website: Referred by: AOL From: Time: 2000-01-22 02:29:32 Comments: what do you think about drinking soy milk or even powdered baby formula? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Wendy, I think that soy milk is delicious and nutritious. However, powdered baby formula makes me gag. I prefer my baby formula straight up... Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jim Website: Belleville library Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Belleville, N.J. Time: 2000-01-21 22:02:51 Comments: I see colostrum advertised in health magazines and on a health talk radio station. I understand colostrum is a part of the cow's milk that is fed to the calf. Is this supplement as bad as the whole milk? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Jim, It's worse! Colostrum contains ENORMOUS quantities of powerful growth hormones. Many health magazines would do anything for money, and in accepting such ads, they sacrifice their integrity. Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jim Website: Belleville library Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Belleville, N.J. Time: 2000-01-21 21:51:52 Comments: It had been about one year since I went off of most dairy products. I tried to drink milk again last fall and wound up with a sinus cold. No more milk for me! I can breathe easier now and instead of drinking milk at meals I blend some vegetables together. Hope you can get on TV to offset some of those bizarre "Got Milk" ads. It really makes me sick to see the lies they are perpetuating with these ads. Too bad those actors that do the ads don't realize the harm they are doing to the people gullible enough to fall for them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jillian Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: San Francisco Time: 2000-01-21 16:04:27 Comments: I used to drink about a gallon and a half of milk a week and thought it odd that my Dr said I needed to take calcium! I was surfing nutritional websites and found yours. I will NEVER purchase dairy again!!! I've been vegan for 3 months and never felt better. Keep up the good work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Mario Teran Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Venezuela Time: 2000-01-21 04:32:28 Comments: I have not read your book "Milk The Deadly Poison" but what I have read and listened to (lectures broadcasted on the radio) is quite impressive. Prior to coming across Robert Cohen's information I was well aware of the fact that milk is poison. I learned this from the wisest man on earth refered to as Neter A'afereti:Atum-re (Egiptian name), check his website at www.egiptianmysteries.com.(yes, Egipt is the proper spelling find out why at his website). He has been teaching undisputable fact for 30 years and has always told him not believe him, check it out! You probably haven't heard from him because his frekles are too close; however, he teaches truth beyond doubt. Your information provides an exellent research source and I am proud to see a Nubian brother step up like you have. Keep kickin' the facts and your life will flourish with reality. You have taught me several things I didn't know like the fact that they put casein in tuna and your revelations about the dairy ads are both quite entertaining and informative. However, aviod the extremes becuase health food nuts are also in the grave. You must have some processed foods in your diet in order to adapt to poisons in case healthier food becomes scarce. Also, keep in mind that purchasing milk substitutes shows that a person still needs milk. They (mainly the Media) have sublimanally seduced our minds making the addiction to milk both a psychological dependancy as well as a physiological one (not to say you should't use milk substitutes). It is also sad that they, like what they do with pork, put milk into everything so theey can to poison us. A nice read is "Afican Holistic Health by Afrika. Llaika, check it out. You can email me at the adress listed above to share information or let me know about any lectures you might be giving in the Boston area. Peace! Keep up the good work ............................................................ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Carmen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: world citizen Time: 2000-01-19 03:14:16 Comments: Want to see in detail the illegal antibiotics & other substances used or attempted to be used on cows for your self?..See www.fda.gov/foi/warning.htm Remember these were the very few who got caught. Then go down past the Recalls, (this will be difficult)click on SEARCH WARNING LETTERS BY SUBJECT, then click "C" for information about CATTLE/FOOD, view in detail what they used. (I also clicked on "B" for blood(human), since i am interested in learning more about the testing of our blood supply in light of Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease. If you are interested in CJD, and at the present time we all should be see www.mad-cow.org, another very interesting but more scientific site on this same subject is http://cjdfoundation.org I just bought the Mad Cowboy, by Howard Lyman & can't wait to read it after visiting these sites. I found one link in Australia & i was their first visitor. This needs much more coverage. Side tracked again....... Any way go back to fda page & go further down to USDA FOOD SAFETY & INSPECTION, here is a detailed comprehensive lists of illnesses & recalls for the USA. Where?, What? & Who?... Read them if you need any further evidence as to why we should stay away from animal products all together. I notice no veggies were recalled. Keep spreading the word. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: sandy harrison Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: PA/MA Time: 2000-01-18 19:40:13 Comments: keep fighting! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Toni Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Oregon Time: 2000-01-16 09:39:14 Comments: Live a little...everybody dies.....it's where you go when you die that counts...not how long you can stretch out a life on this earth...are you ready for eternity with Christ..........???? NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Toni, You and I have a different belief and philosophy. I believe that it is what you do every day that really counts, not what happens after you die. I often gauge my reaction to an event on how I imagine a group of history's great prophets would have reacted to a similar scenario. Imagine, if you will: Jesus, Mohammed, and Moses visit a modern-day slaughterhouse where 2,000 cows had their throats slashed in assembly-line fashion. You are then priveleged to attend a panel discussion and listen to their comments. What wisdom do you imagine you would hear? Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: manuel h Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: oxnard calif. Time: 2000-01-16 03:30:29 Comments: great site ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: katie marshall Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: seattle washington Time: 2000-01-16 00:07:17 Comments: how long have you been a vegan? Have you writen a book at all? if you have not you really should think about doing so! NOTMILKMAN'S COMMENT: Dear Katie, It's been three years! My fist book was: MILK-The Deadly Poison My second book should be out within the month: ELSIE'S FABLE Regards, The NOTMILKMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Advocate Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Time: 2000-01-15 20:42:11 Comments: I saw your picture. It looks like your could use a nice refreshing glass of healthy milk. Not sermon, just a thought.......don't preach to me. Have a nice day. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Louise Larabie Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Ontario, Canada Time: 2000-01-15 18:17:43 Comments: One of the problems I found with your substitutes for